[00:35] <TheMuso> jo-erlend: I think libido has something to do with that. Not entirely sure myself just how its done, but I do know libido is involved.
[00:45] <jo-erlend> TheMuso, that sounds a little bit suspicious. URL? :)
[01:21] <TheMuso> jo-erlend: Just check the source package. I don't know where it lives upstream.
[01:23] <jo-erlend> TheMuso, can I use that in Python?
[01:23] <TheMuso> jo-erlend: Not sure if there are python bindings for it or not.
[01:24] <TheMuso> Hrm ok seems that there are no gir bindings for ido, http://launchpad.net/ido
[01:24] <TheMuso> Seems they are really only meant for system indicators.
[01:24] <TheMuso> There is probably a case for being able to use them elsewhere however.
[01:25] <TheMuso> If there were gir bindings, then you could indeed use it in python.
[01:25] <jo-erlend> system indicators? Banshee uses it. Spotify does too?
[01:25] <jo-erlend> TheMuso, gir?
[01:25] <TheMuso> Right.
[01:25] <TheMuso> Gobject introspection
[01:25] <jo-erlend> ah.
[01:26] <jo-erlend> yes, I've heard of that and PyGI? Does that mean better support for Python?
[01:27] <jo-erlend> I mean... Will that make more libraries available?
[01:31] <TheMuso> Gobject introspection basically means you can use libraries written in GObject in python, without having the need for python specific bindings.
[01:31] <jo-erlend> oh. That sounds great.
[01:31] <TheMuso> So for example the indicator stack is GObject based, so there is GObject introspectino for those to be used in python and other languages.
[01:32] <jo-erlend> GObject has been around for a while, but GObject Introspection is something new, right?
[01:33] <TheMuso> So far as I know, yes.
[01:34] <jo-erlend> that should also reduce the differenced between Python and other languages, as I understand it?
[01:36] <TheMuso> Not sure.
[01:37] <jo-erlend> heh, though it seems as if every time I'm getting the hang of something, it's being replaced by something else. :)
[01:38] <TheMuso> Yeah I know what you mean.
[01:39] <jo-erlend> but I've been told that the differences between pygtk and g-i will be rather small.
[13:25]  * malcolmlewis is away: getting coffee, be back in 5 mins
[13:33]  * malcolmlewis is back (gone 00:08:26)
[13:50] <ari_> hi all
[13:52] <ari_> I'd like the unity panel to always display the application menu instead of the window label and the menu showing up when hovering with the mouse on. couldn't find a way to change this, is this somehow possible?
[14:06] <ari_> noone knows about the menu issue? anyway, brb rebooting
[14:43] <zniavre> good afternoon
[14:44] <zniavre> how to activate overlay scrollbar on oneiric gnome classic session please (not in unity )
[14:44] <zniavre> ?
[14:44] <zniavre> gnome3 *
[16:46] <andyrock> DBO, ping
[17:11] <jo-erlend> will we ever get back the opportunity to write away status in the memenu?
[17:24] <andyrock> jaytaoko, ping
[17:52] <jo-erlend> is there any reason why I shouldn't be able to use aGtkMenu from a GtkBuilder as indicator menu?
[18:03] <jo-erlend> look at this for instance. Everything seems to be working, but I don't get any indicator menu on my panel: http://ubuntuone.com/p/zsC/
[19:19] <jo-erlend> alright! So I have a functional appindicator menu. But how do I add my menu to an existing menu, like the message indicator?
[19:56] <Nafai> jo-erlend: IIRC, you do it by setting type of the app indicator
[19:56] <Nafai> let me look at the docs real quick
[20:02] <Nafai> jo-erlend: I'm not sure how much has changed since this, but here's some good examples: http://gnomejournal.org/article/67/an-introduction-to-the-message-indicator
[20:04] <jo-erlend> thanks.
[20:05] <Nafai> it's been well over a year since I've written any indicator code :(