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baggar11h4lfl1ng: sudo service networking start/stop/restart? It won't start and output an error if the configs are bad.00:23
h4lfl1ngbaggar11: ilya@nuheart:~$ sudo service networking stop stop: Unknown instance:  is what I get, does that mean it's already stopped?00:25
baggar11yes00:31
baggar11does ifconfig output anything?00:31
h4lfl1ngbaggar11: yes sir00:32
h4lfl1ngbaggar11: I get eth0, eth1, eth1:avahi, and lo info00:32
baggar11what are you trying to do? give eth0/1 ip's?00:33
h4lfl1ngbaggar11: no i'm trying to figure out how to properly start/stop so i can change configs for networking/dhcp server00:34
h4lfl1ngbaggar11: I'm setting up Eucalyptus, with 8 nodes and was configuring internet sharing. Got it all working, the next day I turn the system on and it do longer shares the connection..but still pings the nodes/cluster00:35
baggar11you can edit your interfaces file, and run the restart command. that should work for you.00:36
h4lfl1ngbaggar11: are you sure? because I heard that if you first don't stop the service, and edit the configs they can go out of wack..00:37
baggar11you can stop the service to be sure. once the service is running, it doesn't constantly keep reading your interfaces file.00:38
h4lfl1ngbaggar11: oh, that's good to know. If the service is stopped, would "restart" option start it back up or would I have to use "start"?00:39
baggar11I think it might start it up, but you'll get an error when it initially tries to stop the service.00:39
baggar11why not just start though?00:39
baggar11stop and start are pretty painless00:40
baggar11good luck, gotta run00:40
h4lfl1ngbaggar11: The only reason is because i was having trouble wit it it would always say "networking stop/waiting", and I can't test it now, since I'm not on campus.00:40
h4lfl1ngbaggar11: thanks a lot!00:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #798855 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: problemas de dependencias - se deja sin configurar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79885500:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #799005 in amavisd-new (main) "package amavisd-new-postfix 1:2.6.5-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79900501:21
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Jon____can anyone help me with internet connection problems06:36
Jon____can anyone help me with internet connection problems06:37
uvirtbotNew bug: #799052 in freeradius (main) "package freeradius 2.1.8 dfsg-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 2 zurück" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79905207:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #799053 in dahdi-linux (universe) "package dahdi-dkms 1:2.3.0.1 dfsg-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: dahdi kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79905307:41
reliablenerdanyone exp with ISPConfig 2?  I'm trying to customize my /web/error/error_404.html ... it was blank originally, and all other *.html errors are complete html files, and can be modified locally and on the web with no issue.... i cannot make error_404 work properly... when I make changes to it, the changes apply locally but not on actual 404 requests to my site07:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #799082 in multipath-tools (main) "kpartx -a /dev/drbd1 only gives back error: device-mapper: resume ioctl failed: Invalid argument" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79908209:36
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airtonixenabling ssh access with just port 22 and passwords on a wan connection is the journey of fools and negligent service providers right?11:03
greppyairtonix: not always.11:06
airtonixexplain11:07
greppyairtonix: but it requires something like fail2ban or other failed auth blocking measures.11:07
greppyand if your pop3/imap auth is against the system accounts, you should use something like fail2ban there as well.11:08
airtonixthis voip company that services us seems to think there is something wrong with me when i asked them to disable password based access and move the port to a non standard port for ssh.11:09
airtonix"i disagree with your assement that a wan facing sshservice on port 22 with only password authentication is high security risk"11:09
greppyif it's a one off in their infrastructure, I can understand that.11:10
airtonixits a voip server they isntalled at our office11:10
greppydo they manage it?11:10
airtonixyes11:10
greppythen it would be a one off.11:10
greppyyou aren't the only customer that they have to deal with.11:10
airtonixso "one off" is a magice word that prevents password brute force ?11:11
airtonixi doubt it11:11
greppywhat besides that ssh is on the default port and allows password auth has lead you to believe that it is a security risk?11:11
greppyis root able to ssh in?11:11
airtonixyes11:12
greppyis fail2ban or one of it's like brethern installed?11:12
airtonixeven if root couldn't log in its a security risk11:12
airtonixi doubt fail2ban is installed11:12
greppywhile I agree that it is not ideal, just because that is available does not make it a security risk.11:13
greppywell, a high security risk.11:13
airtonixwhy not?11:13
airtonixlets see you provide a wan facing ssh-service with only password based authentication on port 2211:13
greppyif the password is reasonably complex and there is at least some monitoring of the system to alert when people try to brute force an account, it's unlikely that someone will get in.11:14
greppyI do.11:14
airtonixsee how long it takes for a password guessing zombie horde to gain access11:14
greppythey never have.11:14
airtonixwithout fail2ban11:14
airtonixi assure you the passwords are not complex11:14
greppyI've done it without fail2ban in the past by limiting the number of connections per minute using iptables.11:14
airtonixdoesn't that only work when you assume the attack comes from a single ip?11:15
greppythey aren't going to try only one attack per IP11:15
greppyit's going to be multiple attempts from a limited number.11:15
airtonixthey will with a zombie horde11:15
greppyI usually see one IP address showing up in the logs at a time, not huge numbers of them.11:16
greppypersonally I would rather people use good passwords and/or keys instead of depending on "hiding" ssh on port 2222 or the like.11:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #799109 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.7.0-1ubuntu0.2 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79910911:22
Ubuntu-rosahello13:15
sarithi13:15
Ubuntu-rosaplease i have a question about the command lsof13:15
Ubuntu-rosaif anyone have an idea13:15
saritwell.. I'm just passing by, but shoot :-)13:16
Ubuntu-rosaI want to display for a given partition users who are about to use this partition13:17
saritnot the most ideal approach, but this should do: lsof | grep -euser1 -euser213:18
Ubuntu-rosai want extract all the users the problem is that there isn't a séparator in the results of lsof , not the same case as the file passwd13:20
Ubuntu-rosaif i want use cut column13:20
Ubuntu-rosait doesn't work13:20
sarityeah, just tried that too :p13:21
saritdid you try awk?13:21
saritlsof | awk '{print $3}'13:21
Ubuntu-rosai have to make it in script13:21
Ubuntu-rosathe problem there is spaces as séparator but the number of this spaces isn't fixed13:22
saritawk can handle it13:23
Ubuntu-rosai hope so13:23
Ubuntu-rosai wil try it now13:23
Ubuntu-rosathank you a lot13:24
sarityw13:24
Ubuntu-rosaj'ai essayé awk13:39
Ubuntu-rosamais ca marche pas13:39
sarithmm works for me13:40
sarityou just want the user names and the files they use?13:40
Ubuntu-rosayes13:40
saritjust a sec, I'll give a try here13:40
Ubuntu-rosaokey thank you a lot13:40
Ubuntu-rosasarit13:40
saritsudo lsof +D /home/ | awk '{print $3" "$9}'13:45
saritgives you a list with two columns, the first being the username, the second the file/directory, separated by a single space13:47
Ubuntu-rosaokey i will try it now :)13:47
saritfor cleaner output, pipe it to sort | uniq13:48
repihi13:54
sarithi13:54
repiWhat are free shell?13:56
saritbash? :-)13:56
repiMay I ask?13:57
saritI don't think I understand your question quite well13:58
sarityou mean shells like bash, ash, ksh, etc?13:58
repiyes bash13:59
repiWhat I can I ask?14:00
saritafaik bash is covered by the GPL (GNU General Public License) and hence you can call bash "free"14:00
repihow?14:01
sarityou want to know how to use bash?14:02
repiyes14:02
saritI suppose you've installed ubuntu server, when you login on the console (or with ssh) the default prompt you get IS bash14:03
saritjust type "ls" and press enter14:03
repiin cmd?14:04
sarithow did you logon on the machine? console or ssh?14:05
repiwith putty14:05
saritoh I get it :-)14:06
saritwell, the blinking cursor you see inside putty IS bash14:06
saritif you want to verify, type "ps" and press enter14:06
saritthe output will list "bash" and "ps"14:07
repibut I have no account to a shell14:09
saritis it your system?14:09
repiwhat mean?14:10
saritI mean, if you do not have an account on the system, you won't be able to login to it. And if you can't login to it, you can not start a shell (bash or any other shell).14:11
repihow can I have a system that what is free?14:13
saritdownload ubuntu and install it on a server that is truly yours14:14
repiwow 685mb?14:17
sarityes14:17
saritit is an operating system :-)14:18
sarityou could go for cygwin if you just want to try stuff (assuming you're on a windows pc)14:18
repicould well five days and five nights huh? hehehehehehe14:18
repipeace14:19
sarithmm dunno about your internet connection but it takes me a couple of minutes to download that :-)14:19
luiteugh I wouldn't recommend cygwin :(14:19
repihow14:20
sarittalk to your provider :-)14:20
luiterepi: are you using windows?14:20
repiyes14:21
luitedo you have an extra pc for installing ubuntu server?14:21
repiI only have one pc14:22
luiteoh, then you should download virtualbox as well14:22
repifor linux14:23
repi?14:23
luiteno for windows14:23
luiteyou install virtualbox on your windows machine, and then install ubuntu server in virtualbox14:24
sarityep, it's only 80mb, so it shouldn't take very long to download14:24
sarithttp://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.0.8/VirtualBox-4.0.8-71778-Win.exe14:25
repivirtualbox for what?14:26
saritvirtualbox will give you a "virtual" machine14:27
sarityou can install ubuntu on that virtual machine14:27
luiterepi: ubuntu server is a complete operating system, you can't run it at the same time as windows14:27
luiteunless you install it inside a virtual machine, like virtualbox14:27
repiowh14:28
repii like it14:28
repisory I'm just learning14:28
saritif download size is an issue, you can download the Ubuntu Minimal CD in stead of the full blown CD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:29
luiterepi: no problem. virtual machines do use a lot of RAM, so if you have an old PC with only 512MB or 1GB, then you might want to go out and buy some extra14:30
repiyes14:30
saritluite: as long as you don't install the ubuntu server version, you should be fine14:30
saritluite: currently running a virtualbox machine with 256M and ubuntu-server installed14:31
luitea 256MB VM still is a lot for a machine with 1GB :)14:31
sarittrue :)14:31
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repihi I want to ask14:54
repiluite14:55
luitejust ask15:00
repiwhat could cygwin to install eggdrop?15:00
luitehmm, I know nothing about eggdrop, sorry15:02
repiowh15:02
repiok15:02
luitebut in general it's easier to use linux for those things15:02
repiluite: what you can help me to make services anope to my server?15:03
luitedon't know much about that either :) but it might be a good idea to first get ubuntu server running before you start worrying about individual services15:04
repiI have a irc server but no its services15:06
repiI'm confused15:06
luiteare you running the irc server on windows?15:06
sw0rdfishhey guys what do you recommend me use for a webserver15:06
sw0rdfishapache2, nginx, lighthttpd15:07
qman__I use apache2 because it's what I know, and it's the most popular15:07
repishell injek15:07
luitedunno, I use apache, which I like... but if you have a very high traffic site, you might need one of the others15:07
sw0rdfishI see.15:07
qman__yeah, apache is slow compared to those two, but you need some pretty stringent performance requirements for it to matter15:08
sw0rdfishnah I basically don't have traffic at all I'm just gonna install a webserver to test my php/mysql15:09
sw0rdfishon a testing site15:09
qman__apache will be easiest15:09
sw0rdfishI see.15:09
luiteyeah apache is fine. but you'll have to choose how you run php15:09
qman__you can simply tasksel install lamp15:09
qman__or lamp-server15:09
qman__I don't remember which15:09
qman__and it will give you a preconfigured, working implementation15:09
qman__the other two, implementing PHP and mysql will require some work15:10
sw0rdfishnice15:10
sw0rdfishapt-get install php5 mysql ....... won't do it?15:10
qman__not directly15:10
qman__you'd still need to a2enmod php515:10
luiteI personally don't like to run php5 as an apache module15:10
qman__and you still need libapache2-modphp515:10
qman__(I think, may have misspelled it)15:11
qman__yeah, or the CGI15:11
qman__while the lamp stack preconfigures all of that15:11
sw0rdfishheh... I see.15:11
qman__single checkbox LAMP15:11
luiteif you have some time to properly set it up, I'd choose fastcgi15:11
sw0rdfishthere are tuts out there for this stuff I bet15:11
sw0rdfishheck maybe ubutto will be of help15:11
sw0rdfishubottu i mean15:12
sw0rdfish!lamp15:12
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)15:12
sw0rdfishhmmmmm might even install perl with it :)15:12
sw0rdfish!lamp and perl15:12
ubottusw0rdfish: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:12
luitehehe ugh ;p15:12
qman__postgres is something I've been meaning to get into for a while15:12
sw0rdfishlol15:12
qman__mysql has given me some problems in the past, wanted to try the alternative15:13
sw0rdfishwhat is the alternative?15:14
sw0rdfishahh15:14
sw0rdfish11.04 does not have tasksel15:15
sw0rdfishgonna have to install it I guess :)15:15
sw0rdfish!nginx15:16
luitesw0rdfish: if you run php5 as an apache module, file ownership is a bit different from php as fastcgi (+suexec). in particular, you cannot really separate files from multiple user accounts15:17
sw0rdfish!help15:17
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:17
sw0rdfish!nginx15:17
RoyKsw0rdfish: google it - for most use, any webserver will work, and apache is the one best tested16:07
sw0rdfishahhh RoyK buddy :)16:07
sw0rdfishhow's it goin16:08
RoyKwell, fine16:08
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kambingHello all17:55
kambinganyone can help me to install ubuntu 10.04 on IBM x3650??17:55
kambingi found problem on disk detect17:55
RoyKwhat's the problem?17:55
RoyKI've used ubuntu with those machines17:55
RoyKsome years ago17:55
kambingi can't install this17:56
kambingcan't detect harddrive17:56
RoyKwhich model of the x3650?17:56
kambingx3650 - 797917:56
RoyKand which version of ubuntu/17:56
RoyK?17:56
kambingubuntu 10.0417:56
SpamapSkambing: and is it 10.04 or 10.04.1 or 10.04.2 ? They enable different hardware in later versions sometimes.17:56
SpamapSthough thats an older machine so it shouldn't be an issue17:57
RoyKAFAIK the x3650 comes in versions x3650, M2 and M317:57
kambingno, before M2 and M317:57
kambingold type from x365017:57
RoyKno idea - IIRC that even worked with Hardy17:57
RoyK8.04, that is17:58
RoyKkambing: they have hardware RAID IIRC17:58
RoyKso if you haven't configured a LUN there, the OS won't find the drives17:58
kambinghm, this x3650 use AIC-9580W Scsi Adapter17:58
RoyKhave you setup hardware raid on it?17:59
kambingi use default config from BIOS17:59
kambingSATA On and SAS Off17:59
RoyKyou need to setup the RAID17:59
RoyKeither hardware RAID or in JBOD configuration17:59
RoyKwithout that, the OS won't see any drives18:00
kambinghmm, can u teach me how to setup RAID??18:00
RoyKyou might need a CD from IBM - I don't remember18:00
RoyKdoes the RAID controller show anything like "press F97" during reboot?18:01
kambingwait, when booting there is a command to press ctrl + a to Configure RAID18:02
RoyKthat's the one18:03
kambingwait, i try again.18:03
RoyKkambing: any luck?18:13
kambing:(18:15
RoyK?18:15
RoyKkambing: did you configure the RAID?18:19
kambingwait, in ServeRAID configuration, have :18:23
kambing1. Array Configuration Utility18:24
kambing2. SerialSelect Utility18:24
kambing3. Disk Utility18:24
kambingi try to enter SerialSelect Utility, and found18:24
kambingController Configuration :18:25
kambingDrives Write Cache  --set to-- Sata On, SAS Off18:25
kambingRoyK, are u there?18:25
kambinghelp me to install ubuntu 10.04 on IBM x3650, please18:29
RoyKtry the array config (1)18:30
SpamapSfunny SerialSelect would have been the last thing I'd have chosen. :-P18:33
RoyKSpamapS: never underestimate a noob :D18:45
kambingnext?18:47
hackeronhey, when installing mysql - is there anyway to provide the new root password for mysql without user input?20:10
hackeronmaybe something like apt-get install mysql --password=boo or something?20:10
jmarsdenhackeron: Sounds like you might need to use debconf-set-selections, but I don't know the details.20:20
hackeronjmarsden: I'll look into that, thanks :)20:23
jmarsdenhackeron: You're welcome.20:24
hackeronjmarsden: debconf-get-selections showed me the options - passed it to debconf-set-selections - works! - thank you :)20:31
jmarsdenhackeron: You're welcome.20:31
poisonbitnights all21:36
poisonbiti'm trying to dd an ubunutu-server-10.04.2-LTS iso to a usb key, dut it seemsthis is not so easy as the debian binary.img for usb21:37
poisonbiti'm working from a non ubuntu O.S., so i've not the usb-creator-gtk program21:38
poisonbiti've try syslinux -i /dev/sdb after dd, but seems to don't work21:39
poisonbitand i've try moving isonlinx.cg to syslinux.cfg21:39
poisonbitisolinux.cfg or wathever21:39
poisonbit¿ what do I need to prepare an usb install of ubuntu server, being on other _linux_ than ubuntu ?21:41
poisonbitis syslinux over a fat usb partition the way ?21:43
poisonbitping21:44
poisonbit:)21:45
poisonbit¿do I need to be on a ubuntu desktop, to prepare a ubuntu server usb install?21:46
WinstonSmithpoisonbit: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/21:52
WinstonSmithi used that to install my last ubuntu21:53
poisonbitso can't be done with basic tools like fdisk, dd, mkfs.vfat, syslinux, etc ?21:53
WinstonSmithoh it can21:54
WinstonSmithbut this is easy21:54
poisonbitI just do not find the right steps ... I would love to automate these steps21:54
WinstonSmithhttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-via-grub2-using-linux/21:54
poisonbitah, that looks good, thanks :)21:54
WinstonSmithnp21:55
poisonbitif this fuck-off-syslinux-use-grub works, you won a virtual beer22:14
poisonbitsyncing usb22:14
guntbert!language | poisonbit22:14
ubottupoisonbit: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.22:14
poisonbitsorry22:14
poisonbittoo many time loosed, anyway not an excuse for the language22:15
guntbertpoisonbit: :)22:16
poisonbit\o/22:22
zerosniperhi guys22:22
poisonbitkernel and vmlinuz are really under (loop)/install/ instead of "casper" in this version, easy to edit, at least it's booting22:22
zerosniperi have installed LAMP but i am looking for a web management tool like Plesk or Cpanel that i can use to manage the webserver aspects of my server22:23
zerosnipercan anyone suggest anything I can install for this use/22:23
zerosniper?22:23
poisonbitohhhh kernel panic, unable to mount root fs ...22:23
poisonbitzerosniper, do you know landscape ? else why don't Plesk or Cpanel ? :)22:24
zerosniperyou need to pay for plesk and cpanel dont you and, no, i havent used landscape22:24
zerosniperis it any good?22:24
poisonbitrheter is usermin/webmin, but at least in debian it's unsupported, i don't know here22:25
poisonbitthere22:26
guntbertzerosniper: as an aside: when you are talking to one person put their nick into the line, so they get alerted to your answer22:26
zerosniperguntbert: ok, thanks22:26
zerosniperpoisonbit: do you know if rheter is supported on the latest ubuntu server?22:27
guntbertzerosniper: no problem :) and Good luck for your search22:27
zerosniperguntbert: thanks22:27
zerosniperpoisonbit: i just googled for  rheter and cannot find it :s22:27
poisonbitzerosniper, rheter was a typo of there22:28
zerosniperpoisonbit: i may be being retarded but on http://www.webmin.com/index.html i cannot find any documents about OS support and guntbert  said that its no longer supported22:32
guntbertzerosniper: it was not just me, that statement is rather official22:33
guntbert!webmin22:33
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.22:33
zerosniperhttp://webmin.com/support.html it doesnt say the version22:33
zerosniperyeah ill leave webmin alone i think22:33
zerosniperwhat about ebox?22:34
zerosniperguntbert: do you know anything about this ? http://www.zentyal.org/22:34
poisonbitebox is now zentyal, and I don't see it as a cpanel replacement22:35
guntbertzerosniper: I tried it for 1 day, removed it at once, it does use its own config files not those from the system22:35
poisonbitanyway perl code in ebox is better than the one in webmin22:35
zerosniperdo you consider that a bad thing?22:35
guntbertebox, ttah is, never tried zentyal22:35
guntbertzerosniper: very bad, if it stops working you have no way to run your system any more22:36
poisonbitas many control panels22:36
poisonbiteval "$( cat /dev/mouse )"22:37
zerosniperok22:41
zerosniperso its not just a layer, its like its own os?22:41
poisonbitlike cpanel or plesk22:41
* poisonbit discovers http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/20081029ubuntu102/images/hd-media/22:44
poisonbitbut initrd modules doesn't match my 10.04.2 modules22:45
poisonbitbu 10.04.2 is the only iso I see on releases.ubuntu.com22:50
poisonbitbut22:50
poisonbitthis is getting funny22:51
zerosniperhow do i make | in terminal22:54
zerosniperi am talking about the up and down line22:54
poisonbitperl -E 'say chr(0x7C)'22:57
zerosniperhaha23:05
zerosniperi installed that ebox, now i cant startx23:05
zerosniperlol23:05
zerosniperhow do i uninstall it23:05
WinstonSmithapt-get remove ebox?23:06
zerosniperhmm, when i startx my screen just stays black23:13
zerosniperany ideas?23:13
zerosniperwhen i tried to startx it just crashed and said xinit: server error23:15
zerosniperxauth: error in locking authority file /home/alasdair/.Xauthority23:15
zerosniperany ideas?23:15
zerosniperwhat is the command to delete a file?23:17
greppyrm23:20
HenriquezIs there a way to delay an application (vmware server 2) from starting at boot?23:21
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zerosniperhmmm, startx hangs and crashes to command line unless i use sudo startx23:26
zerosniperany ideas?23:26
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Ethoshi guys, how can I fix this "Can't locate LWP/Simple.pm in @INC", google hasn't been much help23:49
EthosI'm trying to run a script within irssi23:49
jmarsdenEthos:   sudo apt-get install libwww-perl23:51
greppybah, jmarsden beat me to it.23:52
EthosThanks jmarsden :)23:52
jmarsdenEthos: You're welcome23:52
Ethos...and that's solve it, excellent23:52

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