[00:00] <usr13> ZykoticK9: but it will still work, I'm pretty sure.
[00:00] <ZykoticK9> bananstol, this doesn't seem promising http://www.leenooks.com/Agere_mini_pci_0508
[00:00] <nerdshell> i was trying to restart my network daemon, and when I run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, i get this output :
[00:00] <nerdshell> * Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces
[00:00] <nerdshell> * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                                              SIOCDELRT: No such process
[00:00] <nerdshell> Any help please
[00:00] <FloodBot1> nerdshell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:00] <ZykoticK9> nerdshell, PLEASE stop pasting that!
[00:01] <usr13> nerdshell: route -n
[00:01] <bananstol> ZykoticK9: yes, seems my best best is ndiswrapper
[00:01] <nerdshell> ZykoticK9: I'm really sorry, but when I use shift+enter, instead of just jumping a line, it sends another message, I user the Ubuntu past bin, an it still doesn't work. Really sorry.
[00:02] <bananstol> thanks ZykoticK9
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> bananstol, best of luck.
[00:04] <usr13> nerdshell: grep  127.0.0.1 /etc/hosts
[00:05] <nerdshell> usr13: what is the utility of that ?
[00:05] <nerdshell> just gives me the aliases for my local host
[00:05] <h4lfl1ng> haha that nerdshell has the same problem as me, but I already posted it on ubuntu-server lol
[00:05] <Rain> I hate to ask, but I'm looking for some help with sound drivers.
[00:06] <nerdshell> h4lfl1ng: could you give me a link to the topic please ? I would be happy to read it
[00:06] <Rain> My soundcard from rocketfish has no sound drivers from the manufacturer, and I don't know if there's a way to get sound support at all.
[00:06] <h4lfl1ng> nerdshell: nobodies replies yet...
[00:06] <usr13> nerdshell: What exactly are you trying to do?
[00:07] <mrdeb> Rain: what is the soundchip
[00:07] <nerdshell> usr13: assign a static ip address to my server, I configured /etc/network/interfaces and I need to restart the networking daemon that's all
[00:07] <nerdshell> h4lfl1ng: what is your problem exactly?
[00:07] <jdvv95> Hello
[00:08] <Rain> mrdeb: It's a Rocketfish 7.1 PCI sound card, I looked on ALSA (I think that's the name for the Big Sound Driver pack for Linux), and Couldn't find it being supported.
[00:08] <usr13> nerdshell: Is it not running now?  ifconfig
[00:08] <jdvv95> Hol
[00:08] <jdvv95> hola
[00:08] <jdvv95> Spanish
[00:08] <Rain> Damnit, I don't even remember the name of the sound driver thing... It was on a topic on Ubuntu's forums.
[00:08] <jdvv95> español
[00:08] <mrdeb> Rain: i think that's soundblaster
[00:08] <Evanescence> how to set default shell ? for example: I want to change default bash into Zsh
[00:08] <Rain> Ohh, it was.
[00:08] <nerdshell> usr13: of course it is, I won't be on irc now if not.
[00:09] <h4lfl1ng> nerdshell: My problem is that I need to stop/start the daemon instead of restarting it so that I don't corrupt the config files for Networking daemon and dhcp daemon.
[00:09] <Rain> mrdeb: After googling, I can't find anyone that could give me the equivalent to try to install.
[00:09] <Rain> mrdeb: Would anyone of them just work?
[00:09] <usr13> nerdshell: So did you edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[00:09] <nerdshell> h4lfl1ng: don't you know if other people has got the issue ?
[00:09] <foxy628> hello
[00:09] <mrdeb> Rain: it should just work with linux
[00:09] <usr13> nerdshell: Or you can just use the network-manager.  Right?
[00:10] <mrdeb> Rain: if it doesnt, is alsamixer muted or something
[00:10] <nerdshell> usr13: yes, I added the iface static and other stuff
[00:10] <h4lfl1ng> nerdshell: But, since start doesn't work, it always gives me stop/waiting when I run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking start" or "sudo start networking"..
[00:10] <nerdshell> usr13: don't like GUI
[00:10] <Rain> mrdeb: I don't have alsa installed, at least I don't think. This is a fresh install of Ubuntu
[00:10] <usr13> nerdshell: That's fine.  So were you successful at giving your PC a static IP?
[00:10] <nerdshell> h4lfl1ng: actually I switched on/off my router and that's it
[00:10] <h4lfl1ng> nerdshell: I'm running Ubuntu server 10.04
[00:10] <mrdeb> Rain: ubuntu installs alsa by default
[00:11] <mrdeb> Rain: are you sure it's not muted or some setting
[00:11] <nerdshell> usr13: yeah it's done now, just wondering about the weird message when i try to restark the networking daemon
[00:11] <Rain> mrdeb: I looked through the Sound Preferences, and have made sure nothing was muted, but I still have no sound.
[00:12] <usr13> nerdshell: Oh.. ok.  Well, your supposed to use service
[00:12] <mrdeb> Rain: what does alsamixer say
[00:12] <tofufish> are there any iptable gurus in here?
[00:13] <wildgoose> !anyone
[00:13] <tonsofpcs> a/win 55
[00:13] <Rain> mrdeb: How would I check that? I'm a noob to Linux, so is the menu for that in the GUI or do I have to open up the terminal?
[00:13] <homiziado> !poll
[00:13] <Pio> i cant seem to change the hostname of an ubuntu server installation on a VPS: http://pio.longstair.com/misc/hostname_change.txt
[00:13] <mrdeb> Rain: open terminal and type alsamixer
[00:14] <tofufish> Im trying to forward connections from externalip:port to anotherip:port, any ideas?
[00:14] <Rain> mrdeb: Everything is turned on.
[00:14] <Rain> mrdeb: Nothing is muted
[00:14] <usr13> nerdshell: I think we're supposed to  use
[00:14] <usr13> invoke-rc.d network restart
[00:15] <nerdshell> usr13: why that ?
[00:15] <mrdeb> Rain: what does it show for hte sound chip
[00:16] <wildgoose> tofufish, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93420
[00:16] <Rain> mrdeb: I don't see what you're talking about, what are you asking me to do? Again, sorry for being a noob.
[00:17] <neXyon> hi, does anyone know if there's an stylus/pen driven linux based tablet/e-book reader device out there somewhere? something I'm able to take notes with when I'm attending uni courses :D
[00:17] <tofufish> wildgoose: thank you!
[00:17] <usr13> nerdshell: I don't know really.  /etc/init.d/networking restart seems to work.
[00:17] <Roric> Try plugging your speakers into a different audio out, also, Does your video card have an audio device built in?
[00:17] <wildgoose> tofufish, Hope it helps
[00:17] <Rain> Roric, you're talking to me?
[00:17] <mrdeb> Rain: when the alsamixer app comes up with bars, it shows near the top the name of hte sound card. that might give you a clue about what is wrong
[00:17] <nerdshell> how to start ssh server please ?
[00:18] <h4lfl1ng> usr13: why does "sudo invoke-rc.d networking start" hang? is that normal?
[00:18] <Roniga> neXyon: if it's for note taking, I'd reccomend good old fashioned pen and paper
[00:18] <Roric> Yea
[00:18] <Rain> Ohh, the card is "CAO106"
[00:18] <Rain> No, it's a soundcard by rocketfish.
[00:18] <tofufish> wildgoose: will that change the 'source' ip address to the connecting ip?
[00:18] <Rain> I have onboard sound that has worked in the past
[00:18] <Roric> oohh
[00:18] <Roniga> !highlight
[00:18] <wildgoose> neXyon, Check out the thinkpad tablets
[00:18] <h4lfl1ng> usr13: ok it went through, but I get the same message "networking stop/waiting"
[00:18] <Rain> But I don't want to switch between onboard and the PCI slot in the bios everytime I go from Ubuntu to windows.
[00:18] <neXyon> Roniga: you underestimate the advantages of it being digital
[00:18] <mrdeb> Rain: i know its rocketfish, but the soundchip is probably xfi or something by soundblaster
[00:19] <Rain> No, the Chip is literally just "CA0106"
[00:19] <Rain> That's what it says
[00:19] <Rain> You could TV me if you want
[00:19] <nerdshell> how to start ssh server please
[00:19] <MrOpposite> hi
[00:19] <neXyon> wildgoose: atm I have a thinkpad x201t, disadvantage: battery runtime
[00:19] <Rain> Or I'll upload a screenshot.
[00:19] <ZykoticK9> nerdshell, "sudo service ssh start"
[00:19] <Roniga> neXyon: possibly, but that's not an argument to have in here, it's offtopic, so #ubuntu-offtopic is more suited
[00:20] <Thraspic> Looking for a simple, lightweight battery monitor for the system tray, the important part is that it uses icons that are easily customized.  Suggestions happily welcome.
[00:20] <mrdeb> Rain: it is a soundblaster audigy se (cao106)
[00:21] <MrOpposite> I have an ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5650 card in my laptop
[00:21] <Rain> So, that's selected.
[00:21] <MrOpposite> Is there any way to get dualscreen with the catalyst drivers?
[00:21] <mrdeb> which ubuntu are you using
[00:21] <MrOpposite> 11.04
[00:21] <Rain> mrdeb: It's still not working, what could I do to try to get it to work
[00:22] <mrdeb> Rain: is the sound icon muted and are you on which ubuntu
[00:22] <usr13> nerdshell: apt-get install openssh-server
[00:22] <Rain> Sound Icon is not muted, and when you say which ubuntu, do you mean my desktop environment? Gnome classic.
[00:23] <MrOpposite> Rain, he probably means which version
[00:23] <mrdeb> Rain: so you are on 11.04 ok
[00:23] <ZykoticK9> mrdeb, "gnome classic" means 11.04 ;)  MrOpposite
[00:23] <bazhang> awn-applet-battery-applet Thraspic but thats for awn
[00:23] <Rain> Yes, I am.
[00:23] <mrdeb> Rain: is your cable plugged into the right hole on eh  sound card
[00:24] <Rain> mrdeb: Yes, as I said before, It works on windows, as I have just booted back in ubuntu to try to fix this.
[00:24] <mrdeb> hmm
[00:24] <Corey> !sound | Rain
[00:24] <Rain> mrdeb: I think that the card isn't being recognized correctly somehow, I'm on the ALSA wiki trying to find something else.
[00:25] <Thraspic> bazhang, thanks, will look into it
[00:25] <mrdeb> Rain: hmm ok. yeah
[00:25] <mrdeb> Rain: have you tried booting with another linux distro
[00:26] <Rain> It didn't work on 10.10 either, but not a different distro.
[00:26] <mrdeb> but integrated works on 11.04
[00:26] <usr13> Rain: Does it work while running the liveCD?
[00:26] <usr13> mrdeb: Does it work while running the liveCD?
[00:27] <MrOpposite> Hmm, Rain doest the aplay command work, using the alsa sound system instead of pulseaudio?
[00:27] <usr13> mrdeb: Are you sure volume levels are turned up?
[00:27] <mrdeb> usr13: it's ot me
[00:27] <Rain> I didn't check if it worked or not.
[00:27] <Rain> aplay command?
[00:27] <MrOpposite> Uhm
[00:27] <MrOpposite> wrong problem
[00:28] <usr13> mrdeb: Sorry
[00:28] <Rain> Again, total noob with linux here.
[00:28] <Rain> Volume is turned up
[00:28] <usr13> Rain: Are volume levels turned up?
[00:28] <Rain> Yes.
[00:28] <MrOpposite> oh wait
[00:28] <MrOpposite> yes
[00:28] <mrdeb> Rain: its ok, we will try to find an answer
[00:28] <MrOpposite> aplay is using the alsa sound system, and ubuntu is natively running pulseaudio
[00:28] <Rain> Well, I feel like I'm in the wrong channel, and that my problem is kinda inherent with ALSA detecting my soundcard incorrectly.
[00:29] <usr13> Rain: /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  #and listen for noise, try plugging into another port. Ctrl-c to stop
[00:29] <usr13> and see if you get errors
[00:29] <Rain> I hear nothing
[00:30] <kjjk> hi neone help
[00:30] <Rain> Still nothing, and I know that my speakers are plugged into the right port, as my audio on this soundcard works fine on windows.
[00:30] <nerdshell> usr13: it's actually weird that ssh-server is not genuinely integrated with ubuntu ;;;
[00:31] <bazhang> kjjk, ask a question
[00:31] <kjjk> have installed chkrootkit and rootkithunter and unhide but they dont show on installed applications list
[00:31] <bazhang> kjjk, they run from the terminal
[00:31] <ZykoticK9> Rain, same sound card (two people same issue) on 11.04 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1784155
[00:31] <usr13> Rain: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  #and listen for noise, try plugging into another port. Ctrl-c to stop
[00:31] <kjjk> although on web says intalled. what terminal and how to access pls have unity just installed from mag
[00:32] <usr13> Rain: Sorry, typo.
[00:32] <usr13> hear anything?
[00:32] <bazhang> kjjk, gnome-terminal
[00:32] <Airris> so... if i 'sudo dpkg -r --ignore-depends'   something. it's going to just rip that package out, not touch the dependencies, and probably break all of them, right?
[00:32] <usr13> nerdshell: It is for security purposes
[00:32] <Rain> I looked on the forums before I came here, I knew other people had that problem
[00:32] <kjjk> so what do i do in simple terms.
[00:33] <bazhang> kjjk, run them from the terminal.
[00:33] <usr13> Rain: Did you get an error message?  Or...?
[00:33] <kjjk> how to access terminal
[00:33] <bazhang> !terminal > kjjk
[00:33] <Rain> /dev/dsp : Permission denied
[00:34] <alex__> Hey! I need some help with my Wifi for 10.04 32-33
[00:34] <Rain> I'm assuming I'm supposed to type /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[00:34] <bazhang> alex__, mint?
[00:34] <usr13> Rain: pastebinit /etc/group
[00:34] <alex__> ubutu
[00:34] <alex__> ubuntu*
[00:34] <usr13> Rain: No     cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[00:34] <bazhang> !wifi | alex__ have a read
[00:35] <Rain> http://pastebin.com/KH1hEWjH
[00:36] <Rain> I tried ctrl C to copy, lol
[00:36] <usr13> Rain: pastebinit /etc/group
[00:36] <Rain> The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[00:36] <Rain> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:36] <Rain> I'll assume I need to do that
[00:36] <usr13> Rain: yes
[00:37] <usr13> Rain: Or just:   grep audio /etc/group
[00:38] <ZykoticK9> usr13, Rain - it is MUCH easier to simply type "groups" in terminal to see what groups your user is in
[00:38] <usr13> Rain: And show us.
[00:38] <Rain> It's setting up ATM, should I do the pastebin or what?
[00:38] <ZykoticK9> Rain, FYI you will be showing everyone all the users on your system (potential security risk1)
[00:39] <Rain> I'm not too concerned about that.
[00:39] <usr13> Rain: Just see if your user name is in group audio
[00:39] <ZykoticK9> Rain, k - it's also not your issue (but that's another point all together)
[00:39] <Rain> allen@allen-desktop:~$ grep audio /etc/group
[00:39] <Rain> audio:x:29:pulse
[00:39] <usr13> Rain: But yes, it would be helpful if we could see.
[00:39] <usr13> Rain: Ok ther eis your problem
[00:40] <usr13> Rain: You simply need to add your user-name to group audio.  vim /etc/group  and put a comma after plulse and type in the user name.  Log out and back in again.
[00:40] <ZykoticK9> usr13, you might be correct (Rain my bad) - your user SHOULD be in the audio or Pulse group???
[00:41] <Airris> wait wait wait.
[00:41] <Airris> I just realized. lets setup a virtual box and try this out first :D A lot less painful if i break that
[00:41] <usr13> Just the audio group
[00:41] <mrdeb> usr13: dont tel lhim vim, it's hard
[00:41] <Rain> Wait, what usr13?
[00:42] <mrdeb> Rain: in terminal "sudo gpasswd -a <YOURNAME> audio"
[00:42] <Rain> sudo gpasswd -a Allen audio
[00:42] <Rain> errr
[00:42] <Rain> CRAP
[00:42] <Rain> Wrong window
[00:42] <FloodBot1> Rain: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:42] <rypervenche> lol
[00:42] <stoja> hi masters ! How i can set acpi values to get SATA at max performance ever ? I ve got laptop Asus n61jq :=) thaaanks
[00:42] <usr13> mrdeb: What is so hard about it?  vim /etc/group   down arrow to audio  hit i for insert, right arrow to end of line ,username  and Esc :wq   Done
[00:42] <mrdeb> usr13: why would he not be ni audio group
[00:43] <mrdeb> vim is vi isnt it
[00:43] <rypervenche> mrdeb: Nope. Vim is Vi Improved. Many distros have the command "vi" aliased to "vim" though.
[00:43] <Airris> so... if i 'sudo dpkg -r --ignore-depends'   something. it's going to just rip that package out, not touch the dependencies, and probably break all of them, right?
[00:43] <h4lfl1ng> Rain: now we know your real name!!! Muahahaha!!!
[00:43] <usr13> mrdeb: Probably because he created a new user and neglected to hit the up arrow when adduser suggested he be added to some additional groups.
[00:43] <mrdeb> well vi was impossibl for me ot use. i use nano
[00:43] <nuovodna> hi, i have a serious issue with battery consumption on natty current kernel. How can i install a Lucid kernel <2.6.33 ??
[00:44] <mrdeb> usr13: hmm. its default install
[00:44] <Rain> Yup, dox me, tell lulzsec or anonymous my real information.
[00:44] <bazhang> nuovodna, you dont
[00:44] <h4lfl1ng> mrdeb: vi is awesome :) still learning though :)
[00:44] <usr13> mrdeb: It is not impossible but it is your preference.
[00:44] <rypervenche> mrdeb: You should try out vim. It's very powerful. Just install "vim" then run "vimtutor" in a terminal to learn.
[00:44] <nuovodna> bazhang: mmm can i use a kernel downloaded from kernel mainline repo?
[00:44] <mrdeb> rypervenche: what does it do that nano doesnt
[00:44] <Rain> It's saying user 'Allen' does not exist
[00:45] <bazhang> nuovodna, that will likely break things more than fix them. and is unsupported
[00:45] <Rain> Hold on, I think I'm using the wrong username
[00:45] <Rain> I might have had this under the name rain
[00:45] <bazhang> mrdeb, lets take the vim/nano discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:45] <rypervenche> mrdeb: I think we'll have more luck if we ask everyone for examples^^
[00:45] <rypervenche> Everyone, what does vim provide that nano doesn't?
[00:45] <Rain> Excuse my rambling, I'm under some stress with my parents wanting things from me at the same time.
[00:45] <bazhang> rypervenche, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:45] <Rain> Trying to concentrate on this
[00:46] <mrdeb> Rain: did it work
[00:46] <nuovodna> bazhang: ok...i have to wait the 3.0 kernel to solve this unpleasant issue
[00:46] <rypervenche> bazhang: *nod nod*
[00:46] <Rain> It's saying user "Allen" does not exist, I need to go check my username real quick
[00:46] <Rain> BRB
[00:47] <Rain> Wait, I assume that you're asking for my username, right?
[00:47] <Rain> For the computer?
[00:47] <rypervenche> Rain: Your username is that name before the @ in the terminal
[00:47] <qin> Rain
[00:47] <Rain> Which is Allen, does capitalization matter?
[00:47] <qin> Yes
[00:48] <Rain> There's my problem then
[00:48] <luko> hello everyone
[00:48] <Rain> Says it's adding me to group audio
[00:48] <alex__> I have problem with my wifi Ubuntu 10.04 32-33. the terminal says that the wifi is disabled even when it is switched on
[00:48] <usr13> Rain: Yes, everyting is case sensitive in Linux
[00:48] <Rain> I didn't know that, thanks for telling me.
[00:48] <Rain> I thought that something was fishy...
[00:48] <Rain> What do I do now?
[00:48] <mrdeb> Rain: but check if you have sound once you log out and back in
[00:49] <Rain> Okay, BRB
[00:50] <L1nuxRules> sudo intresting questions
[00:50] <Rain> Still no sound.
[00:51] <mrdeb> yeah
[00:51] <bazhang> L1nuxRules, pardon?
[00:51] <alex__> anyone who can help? :)
[00:51] <mrdeb> is integrated audio disabled in the bios
[00:51] <mrdeb> ?
[00:51] <mrdeb> Rain: do you have a video card with audio over hdmi maybe
[00:52] <L1nuxRules> bazhang only kidding just I dont know anything about desktop stuff really mainly server and old skool stuff
[00:52] <Rain> No
[00:52] <Rain> Radeon HD 3850
[00:52] <Rain> AGP
[00:52] <Rain> I'm on an old motherboard, unfortunately.
[00:52] <mrdeb> 3850 comes in agp?
[00:53] <Roric> You might need to flash update motherboard's BIOS
[00:53] <Rain> Yes.
[00:53] <Rain> Flash update?
[00:53] <DexterF> hi
[00:53] <Rain> Why would the BIOS have anything to do with my problem?
[00:53] <Roric> Dunno, but it's fixed things like that before for me
[00:54] <DexterF> 10.10: all of a sudden kaffeine won't see the dvb-t stick anymore. dmesg sees it but the /dev entries are all unoccupied, no adapter registered
[00:54] <Roric> Mobo BIOS, and mobo drivers
[00:54] <L1nuxRules> Rain Onboard gfx?
[00:54] <mrdeb> Roric: it works in windows. it's not the flash
[00:54] <Rain> No
[00:54] <Rain> It's a graphics board
[00:54] <Rain> ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP
[00:54] <Rain> But, it has no sound built on
[00:54] <mrdeb> it is some conflic
[00:54] <Rain> to it.
[00:54] <Rain> It works in windows, yes.
[00:54] <mrdeb> it has sound over hdmi
[00:54] <JohnSS> Question: When I type ls to display the contents of a directory, is there a way to make it so that is displays the contents in two rows or more instead of one long row?
[00:55] <Rain> The Radeon HD3850 does?
[00:55] <L1nuxRules> Rain not sure waht your issue is as havent been logged on to read but unless its a boot issue very unlikely a bios update would fix anything unless its a hardware issue
[00:55] <mrdeb> L1nuxRules: it works in windows for him
[00:55] <Rain> L1nuxRules: I'm having sound card problems
[00:55] <mrdeb> it's note hb bios
[00:56] <L1nuxRules> Rain is the sound on board?
[00:56] <Cameron904> ive got 2 questions; 1. How do I go about changing my external IP because I have a static IP, and sometimes I would like have a different one. ; 2. How can I make it to where I can access my home network from school so that I may continue doing work, and facebook.
[00:56] <Rain> I've googled a bit, and other people complain that there are no linux drivers for the card I'm using, but I thought ALSA would fix that
[00:56] <Rain> No, Rocketfish 7.1 PCI soundcard.
[00:56] <dostoj> i have a problem with my mouse since 1 or maybe already 2 months: when starting up ubuntu, i have to unplug and replug the mouse before i can move it. otherwise its stuck in the middle of the screen and i cant move it.
[00:56] <Rain> Checked to make sure ALSA was not muted, nor was anything in the sound prefrences.
[00:57] <L1nuxRules> Rain nvm sorry read what you said again, a BIOS update wont fix that issue but sorry cant offer any other advice driver issue maybe, has it worked previously and what if any updates you done
[00:57] <FishFace> dostoj: I almost have the same problem with a MS wireless mouse after dual booting from Windows. Never found a solution as I fret there is none for this kind of mouse.
[00:58] <JohnSS> Question: When I type ls to display the contents of a directory, is there a way to make it so that is displays the contents in two rows or more instead of one long row?
[00:58] <Rain> The soundcard didn't work under 10.10, but I say again, it works on windows.
[00:58] <L1nuxRules> johnss ls -l
[00:58] <Dmole> anyone know why a DNS slave would say "ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0" only when the master is offline?
[00:58] <usr13> Cameron904: You will have to talk to your ISP about changing your external IP.
[00:58] <beli> JohnSS: man ls
[00:59] <usr13> Cameron904: But you don't necessarily have to change or deal with that IP in order to do what you want to do.
[00:59] <qin> =7
[01:00] <dostoj> FishFace: i also have dual boot with windows but ive had that for over 2 years already and i never ran into troubles. maybe its because of some update or something. i just know that i didnt edit any configuration manually. it suddenly occured
[01:00] <usr13> Cameron904: You may, however, need to make some provisions for it on your router.
[01:00] <bananstol> so when i do a "sudo apt-get install gnome-netowrk-admin" it tries to lok for the files on no.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:00] <bananstol> which it says it can't resolve
[01:01] <Rain> Okay, it looks like there isn't much of a fix for my soundcard trouble, so assuming I live with switching my sound to onboard in the BIOS every time I boot into linux, ALSA will detect the onboard right, the onboard has worked in the past on Ubuntu
[01:01] <bananstol> can i change it to en or whatever the standard is?
[01:01] <andyk> hey guys, im trying to install xubuntu-desktop but keep getting an error http://pastebin.com/uTZ8dBGK
[01:01] <bananstol> network*
[01:01] <beli> bananstol: does resolving work for other hosts?
[01:01] <bananstol> lol
[01:01] <andyk> could someone let me know what i have done wrong?
[01:02] <mrdeb> Rain: that's not a good solution to switch each time though
[01:02] <bananstol> beli: brain fart. i just unplugged the ethernet wire :p
[01:02] <L1nuxRules> banastol can you ping no.archive.ubuntu.com?
[01:02] <Rain> mrdeb: I'm not seeing anything better...
[01:02] <mrdeb> Rain: well then use onboard or find solution online
[01:02] <beli> bananstol: thats the best firewall btw ;)
[01:02] <jsec> Trying to set up a map between my domain and my VPS running 10.04. Anybody have any experience in the matter?
[01:02] <bananstol> so it would appear!
[01:03] <Dmole> bananstol: I can ping no.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:03] <nichos> hi all, im having problems with apt. it's saying it can't install a package, when it's already installed. I did dpkg-reconfigure, no luck. Please see: http://pastebin.com/NL0t08uZ
[01:03] <Rain> mrdeb: I looked online, and I think I'll switch to onboard, and possibly see if I can get the ALSA developers to look into my problem.
[01:03] <FishFace> dostoj: If I had a PS2 mouse I bet the problem would go away. My thinking is the MS mouse holds some kind of info in it. Once de-energized and plugged back in all is well. I just deal with it. Or have my wife do it :)
[01:03] <mrdeb> Rain: its possible the driver isnt there or a conflict with somteing imo
[01:03] <L1nuxRules> nichos dpkg -r package
[01:03] <bananstol> Dmole: yes, i just had a brain fart. it's under control now. thanks ;p
[01:03] <Rain> Alright, anyway, I gtg
[01:04] <Rain> Thanks for the help guys.
[01:04] <nichos> linuxrules, dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libusb-0.1-4:
[01:04] <mrdeb> Rain: you could also modprobe the driver, if ou finjd what it is
[01:04] <mrdeb> and check lsmod in terminal for soundblater driver
[01:05] <M4d3L> hi. how is the new ubuntu 11.04?
[01:05] <dostoj> FishFace: you ask your wife to unplug your mouse?
[01:05] <M4d3L> compare to lst?
[01:05] <FishFace> dostoj: Yeah. She is closer to the tower than me. LOL. Weird setup here
[01:06] <nichos> linuxrules, if i remove that package, it wants to remove essential packages so I'm scared to do that
[01:06] <dostoj> FishFace: haha! i bet your appartment is tiny :)
[01:06] <nichos> linuxrules, using apt-get remove
[01:07] <FishFace> dostoj: Yes it is
[01:08] <L1nuxRules> nichos ok sorry Im more familiar with rpm but use the equivelant of rpm -e package --no-deps
[01:08] <M4d3L> for new install I must go with 11.04 or 10.04 lts?
[01:09] <mrdeb> M4d3L: which do ou want
[01:09] <nichos> linuxrules, I'll give it a show, thanks anyway
[01:09] <M4d3L> I want stable os that's it
[01:09] <bazhang> M4d3L, then 11.04
[01:10] <dostoj> FishFace: i meant cosy ;) well anyway, the mouse issue is kinda funny. its not rly a problem but still kinda strange. on the web some ppl suggest its because of an update but i coudnt figure out which one nor a solution
[01:10] <wildgoose> M4d3L, LTS = Long Term Stable
[01:10] <M4d3L> and why 32 bit is recommanded compare to 64bit version?
[01:10] <L1nuxRules> m4d3l your using Linux thats all you need for stable :)
[01:10] <bazhang> M4d3L, badly written homepage
[01:11] <Xano> What command do I use to find a folder's owner?
[01:11] <bazhang> Xano, where is the folder located
[01:11] <L1nuxRules> xano ls -l /dir
[01:11] <komputes> does anyone know the gconf key to edit to stop displaying truncated long filenames in icon view?
[01:11] <M4d3L> ok so 64 bit is fine?
[01:12] <Xano> L1nuxRules: thank you!
[01:12] <FishFace> dostoj: I have to step out a bit. Good luck on the mouse :)
[01:12] <L1nuxRules> xano np
[01:12] <bazhang> M4d3L, of course it is
[01:12] <M4d3L> ty
[01:12] <dostoj> FishFace: bye
[01:14] <Hilikus> ki
[01:14] <bazhang> komputes, check the man gconftool-2
[01:15] <L1nuxRules> xano its user:group btw
[01:15] <Guest87923> Hello guys,  I am trying to install Ubuntu ....    I am having a few troubles  :S
[01:15] <Guest87923> can anybody help?
[01:15] <hiexpo> what probs ?
[01:15] <bazhang> Guest87923, ask your question all on one line
[01:15] <rubenjr> what problems?
[01:15] <binni> how can I run something as www-data using the command line?
[01:16] <komputes> bazhang: that shows how to use the tool, but does not show the exact keys, which is what I am looking for.
[01:16] <rubenjr> Guest87923 what problems?
[01:16] <Guest87923> I installed ubuntu 9.10, when installation was finished, then I couldn't make my dongle 3g from the '3' network  to work
[01:16] <Guest87923> :S
[01:16] <LekeFly> Anyone that could help me abit with ssh? how can i check if i need to run sudo as another user? right now im just getting wrong password
[01:17] <bazhang> Guest87923, get a supported version of ubuntu is your first step
[01:17] <hiexpo> komputes, what tool ?
[01:17] <debugnet> binni: su -c '{command}' www-data
[01:17] <L1nuxRules> lekefly im familiar with ssh and administration
[01:17] <komputes> hiexpo: gconftool-2
[01:18] <LekeFly> L1nuxRules: any ideas how i can check? is it possible to get a list of users?
[01:18] <Guest87923> bazhang?  supported version?
[01:18] <komputes> hiexpo: I'm looking for the gconf key to edit to stop displaying truncated long filenames in icon view? I want to see the full filename all the time
[01:18] <debugnet> binni: you will need to be root in order for that to work, if not you will need the password and that is probably disabled otherwise
[01:18] <bazhang> Guest87923, yes, that version is end of life
[01:18] <binni> debugnet: doesn't that require me to know the password for www-data? how do I get the www-data password anyway, never set it to anything.
[01:19] <debugnet> binni: you could also sudo su www-data
[01:19] <L1nuxRules> lekefly yes to get a list of users less /etcpasswd
[01:19] <L1nuxRules> sorry less /etc/passwd
[01:19] <hiexpo> komputes, hmm
[01:20] <LekeFly> L1nuxRules: wow.. alot there :p
[01:20] <qin> LekeFly: To use sudo user must be member of admin group, groups <username>
[01:20] <L1nuxRules> leefly alot are system users not human users
[01:22] <L1nuxRules> check your /var/log/btmp see if anyones been trying to hack you
[01:22] <LekeFly> L1nuxRules & qin is this something i should setup? eg making my user sudo? its on a webserver
[01:23] <L1nuxRules> leefly but always put ssh on another port than 22 and use keys rather than passes
[01:23] <L1nuxRules> lekefly not sure what you mean
[01:23] <qin> LekeFly: Did you created user, and is it Ubuntu?
[01:25] <qin> LekeFly: Paste output of: cat /etc/passwd | grep "bin/bash"
[01:26] <zaahir> hi ! some body to UK Birmingham ?
[01:26] <Xano> I have a directory that is set to 777, but I cannot chown to www-data. It gives me an access denied
[01:27] <bazhang> !uk | zaahir check here
[01:27] <qin> Xano: sudo chown ?
[01:27] <zaahir> oh thank you !!!
[01:27] <L1nuxRules> xano what command did you use to change permissions and whats the setup?
[01:27] <Xano> qin: I have no root access
[01:27] <Xano> L1nuxRules: shared debian hosting. "chown -R www-data files"
[01:27] <Xano> ("files" being a folder)
[01:27] <rewt> 777 just means everyone has read/write/execute permissions; that doesn't give perms to chown files
[01:28] <qin> Xano: Yeah, 777 is suicidal
[01:28] <LekeFly> qin: http://pastebin.com/PHEWbZ5V
[01:28] <Xano> qin: That's exactly why I want to change it
[01:29] <L1nuxRules> xano try "chown -R www-data files:www-data files"
[01:29] <qin> LekeFly: and paste here output of: whoami
[01:30] <The_Letter_M> Hello
[01:30] <LekeFly> qin: iphonuab
[01:30] <L1nuxRules> xano but as your on shared hosting you probably wont be able to change the owner as thats set for the ftp access
[01:30] <Dmole> nm got help in #centos answer was "3600 ; expire (1 hour)"
[01:30] <Airris> so... if i 'sudo dpkg -r --ignore-depends'   something. it's going to just rip that package out, not touch the dependencies, and probably break all of them, right?
[01:31] <Xano> L1nuxRules: 777 would be stupid, especially for shared hosting, right?
[01:31] <L1nuxRules> xano yes but your not changing that your changing owner not perms what does chmod 755 do?
[01:31] <The_Letter_M> anyone familiar with getting a Gamepad to work?
[01:32] <wildgoose> !anyone
[01:32] <rpk> if ubuntu doesn't allow major version upgrades (eg:. firefox 3 by default on 10.10), how does it plan to keep up if timeboxed updates become the norm for most programs?
[01:32] <The_Letter_M> lol
[01:32] <qin> Xano: For forders 705, files 704, drop first 7 when you done messing around.
[01:32] <L1nuxRules> xano ssh access on shared hosting is very restricted too
[01:32] <bazhang> rpk, backports and PPA
[01:32] <rpk> are bad solutions
[01:32] <schildi> hey, may anybody can help me. i'm using ubuntu natty (studio) and i want to get rid of these black and blue context menu, which does not change want to change, even if i change the gtk theme and all setting i know of ^^
[01:32] <Xano> L1nuxRules: chmod 755 breaks file uploads, because the website can't write to the uploads folder anymore
[01:33] <LekeFly> qin: So i need to be added to that group or can i just try to login as root?
[01:33] <qin> LekeFly: How did you make user? useradd or adduser
[01:33] <The_Letter_M> Alright, I connected my Gamepad to my system. It's working, but, it also moves the mouse. I'm told I have to remove a line from my Xconf to fix that. Does anyone know what file I edit or what line I have to change?
[01:33] <LekeFly> qin: im not the one that made it hehe
[01:34] <rpk> anyways, what currently performs better: ubuntu vm in vmware workstation or virtualbox?  Host is windows 7 x64
[01:34] <qin> LekeFly: Does your user have ~ ? ls /home/
[01:34] <L1nuxRules> xano well thats your sites scripts problem
[01:34] <Xano> L1nuxRules: Not really, since it's pretty logical it needs apache to be able to write to the directory for that to work
[01:35] <binni> apt-get install python-sqlite installes sqlite2 but I want sqlite3, what package is that?
[01:35] <binni> natty
[01:35] <LekeFly> qin: its a webserver
[01:35] <qin> Xano: Write what?
[01:35] <L1nuxRules> xano ive had sripts similiar but they needed it for manual updates so i just changed the perms back and forth if its auto you could set a cron I guess
[01:36] <qin> LekeFly: Paste output of: cat /etc/passwd | grep <yourusername>
[01:36] <klown> How do I change the permissions of a windows drive in ubuntu?
[01:36] <LekeFly> qin: iphonuab:x:827:823::/home/iphonuab:/usr/local/cpanel/bin/jailshell
[01:37] <L1nuxRules> klown dont think you can change ntfs permissions
[01:37] <Clerisy> my window handles have dissapeared?
[01:37] <qin> LekeFly: hehe, its cpanel user
[01:38] <LekeFly> qin: oh.. not exactly allowed to do sudo commands then i guess.. can i change it in cpanel or what?
[01:39] <L1nuxRules> lekefly you could add it to the sudoers file
[01:39] <binni> how do i get python sqlite3 on Ubuntu 11.04?
[01:39] <L1nuxRules> likefly whats it doing?
[01:39] <qin> LekeFly: No, that user is designed to operate via cpanel, not shell, make new user ;)
[01:40] <klown> L1nuxRules, then how can I set up virtual box to use the windows drive?
[01:40] <qin> LekeFly: Or use root
[01:40] <L1nuxRules> klown no idea sorry
[01:40] <LekeFly> qin: how would i make a new user? tryed using root but its a diffrent password :p
[01:40] <L1nuxRules> klown I dont use windows
[01:41] <qin> klown: Apparently there is method of cloing windows partition for vbox, /j #vbox
[01:41] <qin> LekeFly: Can you ssh as root?
[01:42] <LekeFly> qin: no password.. :/
[01:42] <L1nuxRules> lekefly the basic is useradd useradd user
[01:42] <klown> qin, thanks, I'm trying there, they are being pretty quiet, figured I'd ask here.
[01:42] <flaiks> hey how can i check what driver my ethernet card is using ?
[01:42] <Dobuntu> I'm a noob wondering how I might be able to find out what packages have been updated in the last x days?Anyone know if there is a way to do this?
[01:42] <Clerisy> my window handles have dissapeared? how can I get them back permanantly? last night dr_willis temporarily fixed it by telling me to do "metacity -- replace" but he had to go, and when I restarted, they were gone again?
[01:42] <davet> got a quick natty issue i need help on
[01:42] <L1nuxRules> do a man useradd for options like creeating home dir etc
[01:43] <davet> When I set up Natty as a fresh install, I encrypted the filesystem
[01:43] <qin> LekeFly: run: bash echo $SHELL
[01:43] <L1nuxRules> lekefly an its useradd user not useadd useradd user
[01:43] <LekeFly> qin: /bin/echo: /bin/echo: cannot execute binary file
[01:44] <davet> And now, when I reboot, it says the disk drive for /boot is not ready
[01:44] <qin> LekeFly: Well, contact hosting support, since it is not nice to attempt to hack own server.
[01:45] <davet> If I skip mounting it, I cant get the gui desktop
[01:45] <LekeFly> qin: Hehe alright ; ) thanks!
[01:45] <gridbag> why is the gnome-keyring-prompt keep popping up asking for my password?
[01:45] <davet> and I'm a newbie, so i dont know command line linux yet
[01:45] <L1nuxRules> davet that means it cant mount the /bot partition your hd might me fucked
[01:45] <UbuntuNoob> anyone got time to help w/ partitioning during installation? T_T
[01:45] <gridbag>    ... thats kind of suspicious, to say the least.
[01:45] <L1nuxRules> davet */boot not /bot
[01:46] <davet> @L1nuxRules: I know the thing is fine. It passes all sorts of tests.
[01:46] <Clerisy> anyone?
[01:46] <davet> I just can't geet the damn filesystem to boot properly
[01:46] <flaiks> how can i check which driver is powering my eth0 card ?
[01:46] <davet> Is there a way to decrypt the filesystem LVM?
[01:46] <L1nuxRules> davet probabbly corrupted or deleted the image grub is booting you got any errors?
[01:47] <davet> None. When I installed, I selected the encrypted filesystem LVM option
[01:47] <davet> And now, I'm regretting it
[01:47] <Clerisy> bazhang» you still awake? :P
[01:47] <qin> LekeFly: Try: useradd test
[01:47] <davet> balls..... >.>
[01:47] <diytto> How can I change my screen resolution
[01:48] <L1nuxRules> davet encryption has no affect on /boot
[01:48] <Clerisy> my window handles have dissapeared? how can I get them back permanantly? last night dr_willis temporarily fixed it by telling me to do "metacity -- replace" but he had to go, and when I restarted, they were gone again?
[01:48] <diytto> I set it to a bad resolution and the screen does not display
[01:48] <diytto> :/
[01:48] <L1nuxRules> davet unless its hanging on the decryption of /home have you tried interactive startup.....
[01:48] <x-ip> hi all :)
[01:48] <LekeFly> qin: -jailshell: useradd: command not found
[01:49] <qin> LekeFly: adduser test
[01:49] <IdleOne> Error: Permission Denied.
[01:49] <L1nuxRules> davet sorry not sure if thats doable in ubuntu im an ubuntu noob Im a Linux admin but mainsly Red hat
[01:49] <LekeFly> qin: hehe -jailshell: adduser: command not found
[01:49] <IdleOne> sorry, wrong window
[01:49] <qin> LekeFly: <TAB><TAB>
[01:50] <davet> @L1nuxRules: When I boot, I get an Edubuntu screen (I have Ubuntu 11.04), asking me to type in my encryption passphrase. It completes successfully, and then hangs
[01:50] <L1nuxRules> davet its hanging on the decryption then I reckon
[01:50] <[THC]AcidRain> ok everyone, the hardpart....
[01:50] <davet> @L1nuxRules: No offense, but no shit :P
[01:50] <davet> @L1nuxRules: The question is, how the hell do I manually fix it via command line?
[01:51] <L1nuxRules> davet unfortunately dont think I can help you with it
[01:51] <[THC]AcidRain> i want to setup an email server. before i began following this 3 day tutorial, does anyone know a quick solution to set up a mail server in less than 30min?
[01:51] <qin> !postfix
[01:51] <nikhil__> Hey Guys! I need help. I am using 11.04 and some thing went wrong and now nothing on my desktop except wallpaper. Right click working, Shortcuts working., what to do?
[01:51] <LekeFly> qin: http://pastebin.com/JE7S5XqB
[01:51] <flaiks> anyone ?
[01:52] <L1nuxRules> davet the only way I would attempt is try to decrypt in with JTR
[01:52] <davet> @L1nuxRules: JTR?
[01:52] <rpk> also, is there a general guide to choosing between ubuntu server and desktop?
[01:52] <nikhil__> Hey Guys! I need help. I am using 11.04 and some thing went wrong and now nothing on my desktop except wallpaper. Right click working, Shortcuts working., what to do?
[01:53] <L1nuxRules> davet john the ripper
[01:53] <davet> ah
[01:53] <flaiks> i tried googling it, how can I check which driver my eth0 card is currently running on ?
[01:53] <qin> LekeFly: I guess thats all you can do, users on shared hosting are limited to simple tasks. One sec.
[01:53] <wildbat> flaiks:  lsmod i think ~
[01:53] <davet> @L1nuxRules: How could I go about getting it onto my system to help?
[01:53] <flaiks> wildbat, that just lists was mods are loaded, doesnt tell what hardware they're associated with
[01:53] <L1nuxRules> davet or do the following
[01:53] <L1nuxRules> sudo passwd root
[01:54] <L1nuxRules> enter password
[01:54] <L1nuxRules> then su -l
[01:54] <davet> I have root
[01:54] <L1nuxRules> enter password then type rm -rf /
[01:54] <qke64001> I have an issue on ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS.  I'm getting a PHP Warning:  socket_write(): unable to write to socket [32]
[01:54] <nikhil__> any one?
[01:54] <nikhil__> any one?
[01:54] <nikhil__> Hey Guys! I need help. I am using 11.04 and some thing went wrong and now nothing on my desktop except wallpaper. Right click working, Shortcuts working., what to do?
[01:55] <L1nuxRules> davet your not polite or anything so fix it yourself
[01:55] <davet> I was informing you so that you wouldnt be wasting YOUR time
[01:56] <L1nuxRules> davet know you were rude and impatient
[01:56] <wildbat> flaiks: lshw then
[01:56] <L1nuxRules> no*
[01:56] <qin> L1nuxRules: You could try to not post that sort of command on public channel, /msg is good for personal stuff.
[01:56] <L1nuxRules> qin understood
[01:57] <Vino> Could someone help me get my network working under a vmware player virtual machine with a bridged network setup?
[01:57] <diytto> How can I change my screen resolution via terminal?
[01:57] <qin> LekeFly: I do not see anything in the list to be happy about, maybe exept nmap. Btw, what did you needed sudo for?
[01:57] <rpk> Vino: it typically 'just works', what OS is the host?
[01:57] <Vino> windows 7
[01:58] <LekeFly> qin: running a install command for a webapp
[01:58] <davet> well, i executed the command, --no-preserve-root switch, and got a whole lot of bs permissions issues and device busy issues
[01:58] <davet> Thanks, though. I really do appreciate the help
[01:58] <davet> Even if you think I'm rude
[01:58] <qin> LekeFly: webapp?
[01:58] <IdleOne> L1nuxRules: if you give that command to anybody in this channel again you will be banned for a very long time.
[01:58] <LekeFly> qin: yeah.. pear command
[01:58] <Vino> i can't ping the host machine, i tried setting an ip manually with ifconfig but no cigar
[01:59] <qin> LekeFly: You mean PHP script?
[01:59] <Naraht> Looking for help on connection of newly installed Ubuntu to Wifi using WNDA3100
[01:59] <Star_Light> anyone to know for php sockets?
[01:59] <davet> @IdleOne with all due respect, L1nuxRules was giving me the only option he/she knew may help me
[01:59] <L1nuxRules> idleone your msg > my brain
[01:59] <Star_Light> i have bored to looking for a solve :/
[02:00] <flaiks> wildbat, tyvm =D
[02:00] <rpk> Vino: hmm, i'm about to set it up myself, I guess if I have similar issues I can help you ... its hard to do without being able to look at the config
[02:00] <L1nuxRules> thank you davet, Ive had a hard day at work if I was moody
[02:00] <IdleOne> davet: it was given maliciously from what I can tell
[02:00] <Thraspic> Anyone know why this zenity command is producing this error message?  http://pastebin.com/Dc5ywZQ8
[02:00] <rpk> How do people usually choose between Ubuntu 11.04 server, and Ubuntu 11.04 desktop?
[02:01] <Vino> rpk, so it usually just works for you without any setup in the vm?
[02:01] <davet> @IdleOne that may be. I'm a n00b anyway. but damn. I have NO other options
[02:01] <diytto> ... Can anyone help me
[02:01] <L1nuxRules> idleone I did try to help him alot before it though
[02:01] <rpk> Vino: yeah, it has in the past
[02:01] <IdleOne> davet L1nuxRules if I was mistaken in the intent I apologize
[02:01] <qin> rpk: Lack of xserver
[02:01] <L1nuxRules> but yes it was wrong
[02:01] <hiexpo> diytto, whats your prob?
[02:01] <IdleOne> L1nuxRules: losing patience is no reason to give harmful commands
[02:01] <elvis2> hi, i have a dns question... the instructions (here: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html) are using "example.com" as the fqdn (in the master) option. Later in the instructions they are using ns.example.com. which is right?
[02:01] <L1nuxRules> idleone i agree but that does make you loose control
[02:02] <davet> Considering I spent THREE DAYS getting 11.04 to work properly... I would consider you to be a cocksucker
[02:02] <diytto> hiexpo: I need a way to reset my screen resolution. I accidentally set it to a bad resolution and now the screen is a blur
[02:02] <davet> Thanks
[02:02] <IdleOne> L1nuxRules: instead back away politely. Please do not do that again.
[02:02] <hiexpo> hmm
[02:03] <Naraht> Looking for help with Ubuntu and Wifi
[02:03] <L1nuxRules> idleone if $user is rude then $bepolite else $bepolite
[02:03] <nikhil__>  I am using 11.04 and some thing went wrong and now nothing on my desktop except wallpaper. Right click working, Shortcuts working., what to do?
[02:03] <qin> diytto: How did you set it? Gui tool, xorg?
[02:03] <IdleOne> ubottu: tell L1nuxRules about code of conduct
[02:03] <klown> IdleOne, can I pm you please?
[02:03] <IdleOne> ubottu: tell L1nuxRules about guidelines
[02:04] <IdleOne> klown: go ahead
[02:04] <hiexpo> !gentoo
[02:04] <L1nuxRules> idleone I was agreeing with you ?
[02:04] <diytto> qin: The monitor preference window in Preferences
[02:04] <Naraht> Hello?
[02:04] <qin> nikhil__: Is: Ctrl-Alt-t gives ternimal?
[02:05] <IdleOne> L1nuxRules: I saw. I just wanted you to have a read at our guidelines and rules. so that you don't misstep again :)
[02:05] <rpk> Ok, is there an easy way to strip out most of the stuff running in a desktop install?  Like if I wanted to start with almost nothing, and build in only what I need, is there any easy way to go about doing that?
[02:05] <L1nuxRules> ubottu: linux commands | idleone
[02:05] <qin> diytto: Did you try to boot into resque mode?
[02:05] <diytto> qin: Yes.
[02:05] <Naraht> I need help , please pm me
[02:06] <qin> rpk: Boot with "text" paremeter instead of "splash"
[02:06] <L1nuxRules> idleone what I said is if someones rude be polite but it was in an if statement
[02:06] <hiexpo> Naraht, what is your prob
[02:06] <[THC]AcidRain> is there not a GUI for configuring the postfix mail server? i have successfully setup the mailserver with its default values. but i cant seem to connect to the server. says connection refused
[02:06] <[THC]AcidRain> i am trying to connect with the evolution mail client
[02:07] <IdleOne> L1nuxRules: What I am saying is that if someone is rude to you bow out gracefully, don't be a tool and give them a command that will destroy their install.
[02:07] <L1nuxRules> idleone ah ok only just saw that :) I will read them
[02:07] <qin> diytto: There is option to reconfigure xserver (not in graphical login)
[02:07] <Naraht> I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 using Wubi on a system which is otherwise Windows 7
[02:07] <diytto> qin: I tried todo that, but nothing happened
[02:07] <qin> diytto: ok, are you in shell?
[02:07] <L1nuxRules> idleone fair dos Ive always thought from the ways Ive learened its a valuble lesson
[02:07] <IdleOne> L1nuxRules: FYI I would have normally banned you for that but I am having a good day and thinking that you are a good guy having a bad day. Giving you a chance to redeem yourself.
[02:08] <diytto> qin: I can be
[02:08] <diytto> Give me a second
[02:09] <qin> diytto: Waiting, first: sudo service gdm stop
[02:09] <Naraht> hiexpo: my apologies, how do I PM back?
[02:09] <hiexpo> pm
[02:09] <rpk> qin: I'll extrapolate a bit here: I'm a software developer and currently only do Windows / .Net solutions.  I'd very much like for people to be able to run my programs on linux (through mono), but I don't really have much linux experience at all, thus ubuntu and desktop.  However, at home (I'm setting up a vm locally), i just have a laptop, so I'm restricted in terms of performance, which is why I want to strip out stuff I don't need.  I can'
[02:09] <hiexpo> 'd
[02:09] <L1nuxRules> idleone thanks
[02:10] <diytto> qin: I am in shell now from recovery mode
[02:11] <diytto> qin: I tried that command and it said stop: Unknown instance:
[02:12] <qin> rpk: Ideall would be !minimal iso of ubuntu, but that may not install well in vbox, well best bet is to edit /etc/default/grub and change boot paremetes, so no x, gdm or other stuff will start.
[02:12] <LAcan> guys, what is the easiest way to command line parse xml files?
[02:12] <L1nuxRules> dittto what you trying to fix?
[02:12] <qin> diytto: What system is it? xubuntu?
[02:12] <diytto> qin: Ubuntu 10.04
[02:12] <diytto> LYS
[02:12] <diytto> LTS*
[02:12] <Naraht> hiexpo, have you see my pm's? AYT?
[02:12] <qin> diytto: are you root?
[02:13] <diytto> qin: I do not have root set up
[02:13] <diytto> :s
[02:13] <diytto> Unless the opening shell in recovery is root?
[02:13] <rpk> qin: Don't I want x though?  I don't think I'd manage without a windowed desktop.  Anyways, I guess I'll just install desktop, and hope that it performs ok, and worry about taking stuff out /stopping services if that doesn't work out.
[02:13] <L1nuxRules> diytto use sudo its setup as root
[02:14] <qin> diytto: ok, run: ps aux | grep gdm
[02:14] <diytto> I see it
[02:14] <diytto> Should i kill it
[02:14] <josePhoenix> hello all
[02:14] <qin> rpk: You can start x anytime, and any window manager you want (as long it is insatlled)
[02:15] <josePhoenix> How can I disable a user account? passwd -l only sets an impossible password string, which I think would still allow login via ssh
[02:15] <elvis2> when setting up a dns, where do i find this: "Replace 1.168.192 with the first three octets"
[02:15] <L1nuxRules> diytto yes if it didnt let you restart it
[02:15] <qin> diytto: sudo service gdm stop
[02:15] <Chotaz> I just did a clean install of Natty desktop x64 and my flash keeps crashing on youtube, anything I can do?
[02:16] <hiexpo> why am i getting pm's >   hiexpo leaving ubuntu going back to pentoo
[02:16] <diytto> qin: stop: Unkown Instance:
[02:16] <Naraht> good night. Will come back to ask later...
[02:17] <qin> josePhoenix: http://www.ducea.com/2007/12/05/howto-disable-a-user-account-in-linux/
[02:17] <Vino> Could someone help me get my network working under a vmware player virtual machine with a bridged network setup?
[02:17] <L1nuxRules> diytto if you ever get a service that wont restart if it fails stopping always kill it
[02:17] <josePhoenix> qin: I saw that, but I think having key based auth and ssh could work around that.
[02:18] <qin> diytto: ok, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ???
[02:18] <qin> josePhoenix: there is option in that post to
[02:18] <qin> josePhoenix: .. sorry, remove key from user .ssh forder?
[02:18] <L1nuxRules> qin I think its something like gdm3 diytto paste the ls /etc/init.d
[02:18] <MrUnagi> with wicd, i keep getting wrong password errors when trying to connect when it isnt the wrong password
[02:19] <josePhoenix> qin: right, I was wondering if there was another command that could disable an account from use either through password login -or- ssh key auth
[02:19] <rpk> qin: My pc / win environment is x64, would I want a x64 or x86 ubuntu iso?
[02:19] <wildgoose> josePhoenix, You can edit your sshd_config
[02:19] <hiexpo> josePhoenix, use pastebin
[02:19] <diytto> qin: That gives me a warning, tells me to use service gdm stop
[02:19] <flametai1> Does anyone know if the HP Slate 500 can duel boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu?
[02:20] <josePhoenix> hiexpo: for?
[02:20] <diytto> L1nuxRules: No idea how to paste from a shell to pastie
[02:20] <diytto> :/
[02:20] <josePhoenix> wildgoose: to deny users selectively? So there is no one command that can disable an account?
[02:20] <hiexpo> josePhoenix, that flood
[02:20] <L1nuxRules> josephoenix you want to disable a user from ssh login?
[02:21] <josePhoenix> hiexpo: I'm sorry, I haven't pasted anything. Maybe they all arrived at once for you?
[02:21] <hiexpo> maybe
[02:21] <flametai1> Does anyone know?
[02:21] <qin> diytto: ok, try anyway: xinit -- :1 vt8 (you trying to rise xserver with term)
[02:21] <pksadiq> !pastebin | diytto
[02:21] <[THC]AcidRain> can someone private message me on helping me setup an email server?
[02:21] <wildbat> flametai1: it should ~ problem may be you don't have a keyboard when you in grub menu
[02:21] <[THC]AcidRain> i am wondering how i should setup the mx exchanger on godaddy.com
[02:22] <wildgoose> josePhoenix, I'm not following you, but, at the end of the config file you can specify AllowUsers or DenyUsers
[02:22] <diytto> pksadiq: Not helpful.
[02:22] <josePhoenix> L1nuxRules: I want to disable a user account from any kind of login. It looks like there's no one command that can do this for me, but there are a few different ways to do this
[02:22] <diytto> qin: That worked. I have a white terminal box now
[02:22] <flametai1> wildbat, What if I used a bluetooth keyboard considering HP Slate 500 supports bluetooth 3.0?
[02:22] <josePhoenix> wildgoose: well, the reason I ask is that I'm making a management tool and I want to be able to say "disable this user" and then not have them be able to log in by password or by key auth
[02:22] <qin> diytto: try to run gedit from there
[02:22] <diytto> qin: Also a cursor
[02:22] <wildgoose> josePhoenix, Delete the account
[02:23] <diytto> qin: That works
[02:23] <josePhoenix> Well, that'd do it
[02:23] <wildbat> flametai1: grub is bootloader it don't have support for bluetooth i think ~
[02:23] <josePhoenix> I was hoping that I could just disable it
[02:23] <qin> diytto: ok, close gedit and run: startx
[02:23] <diytto> qin: The resolution upon boot is just screwed up so that the monitor cant display it
[02:23] <Chotaz> I just did a clean install of Natty desktop x64 and my flash keeps crashing on youtube, anything I can do?
[02:23] <L1nuxRules> josephoenix anyway if you want to stop a user from being able to login edit the users entry in /etc/passwd and make sure the last entry on the line is /binfalse or nologin but not anything /bin/*
[02:24] <diytto> qin: It says i am not authorized
[02:24] <qin> diytto: Oh, you mean gdm and plymouth?
[02:24] <diytto> Umm
[02:24] <diytto> I don't know what those are
[02:24] <diytto> All i know is the resolution is set too large
[02:25] <diytto> :o
[02:25] <qin> diytto: anyway, exit from term, and: 1. sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[02:25] <diytto> qin: startx worked when i used sudo
[02:26] <qin> diytto: So you in gnome? root configuration vary from yours
[02:26] <diytto> Yes im in gnome :) logged in as root and it displays perfectly
[02:26] <diytto> So what do I do now?
[02:26] <qin> diytto: in gnome terminal: whoami
[02:27] <diytto> qin: root
[02:27] <qin> diytto: Never come to me to startx with sudo ;)
[02:27] <diytto> O.o
[02:27] <diytto> Sorry
[02:27] <diytto> :s
[02:28] <qin> diytto: Neat, new achivement
[02:28] <diytto> I don't want root though :s
[02:28] <diytto> Will my account work now
[02:28] <hiexpo> !root
[02:28] <qin> diytto: Alt-Ctrl-F1 and Ctrl-c
[02:28] <klown> I am attempting to create a image for virtual box to run a windows drive.  Can anyone assist me with this, the users in #virtualbox are very rude, and unhelpful
[02:29] <hexacode> what layer of the osi model does eigrp work on?
[02:29] <diytto> qin: Okay back at shell
[02:29] <L1nuxRules> but you can set root passwrord in ubuntu and login as root
[02:29] <qin> diytto: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[02:29] <hiexpo> !smiles
[02:30] <diytto> qin: No such file or directory
[02:30] <qin> diytto: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:31] <Cuchulainn> hi all...anyone here versed in how keyboards on a laptop/netbook work?
[02:31] <diytto> qin: Done
[02:31] <mahir256> yes, cuchulainn
[02:31] <Benkinooby> hi, i use urxvt. changing the background color in the .Xdefaults fiel won't chagne  anything... ides?
[02:31] <Benkinooby> ideas?
[02:31] <ibn__> hi everyone
[02:32] <L1nuxRules> diytto if your having display issues or gfx issues first thhing Id do is gfx driver reinstall especially if you have updated lately as there have been kernel updates
[02:32] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, ok...so i'm guessing that instead of working like a ps2 keyboard that works on an interrupt...
[02:32] <qin> diytto: sudo service gdm restart
[02:32] <diytto> L1nuxRules: That does not help me.
[02:32] <Cuchulainn> it work more like a network layer, where it sends until it receives ACK or not?
[02:33] <L1nuxRules> diytto it was only advice
[02:33] <diytto> qin: Unknown instance
[02:33] <diytto> L1nuxRules: Okay.
[02:33] <ibn__> wow
[02:33] <qin> diytto: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[02:33] <ibn__> we just have buNCH of geeks in the channel
[02:33] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, it work more like a network layer, where it sends until it receives ACK or not?
[02:33] <ibn__> wow
[02:34] <mahir256> yes, cuchulainn; although i am certain that they work with interrupts too
[02:34] <L1nuxRules> diytto have you checked the xorg logs or any other system logs for errors?
[02:34] <mahir256> ibn__: don't flame. if _you're_ not a geek, why are you here?
[02:34] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, so it just depends on the manufacturer?
[02:35] <qin> L1nuxRules: What seems to be cool idea. My bet gdm (for now)
[02:35] <mahir256> yes, i believe so. some keyboards behave strangely depending on what os they're run in
[02:35] <diytto> qin: Done
[02:36] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, ok...so here's the issue i'm having, maybe you can point me in the right direction
[02:36] <L1nuxRules> qin does the box boot into cli or single user?
[02:36] <andyk> hey guys, im trying to install xubuntu-desktop but keep getting an error http://pastebin.com/uTZ8dBGK
[02:36] <andyk> could someone let me know what i have done wrong?
[02:36] <qin> diytto: can you: sudo service gdm <TAB><TAB>
[02:37] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, when logging in, i have a 1/2 sec lag or so on the keyboard (have to press and hold)...which is annoying with a masked psswd...
[02:37] <diytto> qin: Hold on
[02:37] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, but once i log in...it's fine and responsive....
[02:37] <diytto> I did startx and now cant kill it
[02:37] <diytto> :/
[02:37] <Roniga> andyk: try to do "apt-get update" and then do it again
[02:38] <qin> L1nuxRules: His? I suspect cli
[02:38] <pksadiq> andyk: also check your proxy settings
[02:38] <L1nuxRules> diytto what command did you use to kill try kill -9
[02:38] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, this happened once before when i was running the beta, but when i reinstalled the full release it was fine...until 3-4 updates, and it reverted
[02:38] <diytto> I cant type any commands
[02:38] <diytto> :s
[02:38] <diytto> I tried ctrl-c
[02:38] <josePhoenix> Hmm... if another admin set a root password, and I want to go back to the ubuntu sudo-root setup, how would I do that?
[02:38] <arash> Hi all, I have old Dell laptop (Inspiron 8600) with Nvidia GeForce FX Go5200, is there a way to make suspend to ram work?
[02:38] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, maybe you have an idea as to where to start troubleshooting?
[02:38] <klown> what would the correct way be to give a user read/write to a drive?
[02:38] <andyk> cheers - ill do an update (but if that doesnt work ill have to come back about how to check the proxy settings)
[02:39] <andyk> (still learning)
[02:39] <mahir256> andyk: your connection to the server timed out (probably)
[02:39] <diytto> qin: Let me reboot
[02:39] <L1nuxRules> diyotto I thik you should check some logs
[02:39] <qin> diytto: ok, but..
[02:39] <mahir256> cuchulainn: what hardware are you using? that makes a difference
[02:39] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, aka what is different about the loading up until login, that might change after?
[02:39] <diytto> qin: I am rebootin into shell again
[02:39] <qin> diytto: Try to press shift for grud, e to edit, and remove splash
[02:39] <L1nuxRules> diytto this isnt windows it doesent need rebooting
[02:39] <Cuchulainn> msi u-100 wind netbook
[02:40] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, iz.rr.com) has left #ubuntu
[02:40] <qin> *grub
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[02:40] <diytto> L1nuxRules: I am not used to using windows... Only place i ever use it is at school
[02:40] <Cuchulainn> mahir256,  msi u-100 wind netbook
[02:40] <Clerisy> How can I get the 'places' button in xfce?
[02:40] <diytto> qin: On reboot or in shell?
[02:41] <L1nuxRules> diyotto so youve never used computers then?
[02:41] <diytto> L1nuxRules: I use a Mac?
[02:41] <pooky> can anyone think of why my indicator-appmenu doesn't "connect" to applications?
[02:41] <Hilikus> ee
[02:41] <diytto> I despise windows :/
[02:41] <L1nuxRules> diyotto never used one myself but never get how you unix based os have no clue bout Linux
[02:41] <diytto> qin: I am in the recovery boot menu
[02:42] <diytto> L1nuxRules: It's not the same
[02:42] <diytto> I use Terminal all the time
[02:42] <mahir256> cuchulainn: i believe that either the login uses a different driver for the keyboard, or there are plenty of processes running in the bkgd during the login
[02:43] <Clerisy> th.. thanks
[02:43] <L1nuxRules> diytto is that not because its all GUI i MAC
[02:43] <L1nuxRules> *in
[02:43] <mahir256> cuchulainn: or the drivers are different for each place (login, desktop)
[02:43] <qin> diytto: No, you should go with normal boot.
[02:43] <diytto> L1nuxRules: Its still not evenly remotely similar
[02:44] <diytto> L1nuxRules: OSX is more simar to BSD
[02:44] <kiichiro> is there a way to find a graphics card upgrade through linux? like I just want to verify that there is no better driver
[02:44] <L1nuxRules> diytto oh will be my next learning curve I think
[02:45] <diytto> qin: Do i hold shift and e on boot?
[02:45] <diytto> What exactly should I do
[02:45] <L1nuxRules> diytto Ive had a little play with fre bsd
[02:45] <tjiggi_fo> Clerisy, it's called Thunar and (I think) you get it clicking the bottom left corner or right clicking the desktop
[02:45] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, that certainly makes sense...although if i require third party driver during install, it is hidden and i am unaware...any idea where to go see what i'm using during session as opposed to what i'm using at login...
[02:45] <L1nuxRules> think Ill start with arch
[02:46] <qin> diytto: shift, so you get grub menu, and e to edit boot options in grub
[02:46] <Clerisy> tjiggi_fo» .. thunar is the file manager
[02:46] <Clerisy> tjiggi_fo» I want the name of the package that the "places button" uses
[02:46] <tjiggi_fo> Clerisy, yes
[02:46] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, then maybe i can figure out how to force the login to match?
[02:46] <L1nuxRules> quin he already said he cant get into single user
[02:47] <diytto> L1nuxRules: It is only similar in the kernel it uses. I believe now it uses a Darwin kernel anyway
[02:47] <qin> diytto: Idea is to let gdm, with no "splash"
[02:47] <diytto> qin: Here is what the screen looks like http://d.diytto.com/mFq6
[02:47] <diytto> On normal boot
[02:47] <L1nuxRules> diytto ah ok
[02:47] <tjiggi_fo> Clerisy, sorry, didn't know there was a places in xfce - try asking in #xubuntu maybe
[02:48] <diytto> qin: Okay i pressed e
[02:48] <L1nuxRules> diytoo what happens when you try single user?
[02:48] <kiichiro> how do I check what kind of graphics card I have installed through linux? like the device manager in windows
[02:48] <qin> diytto: find "splash" in kernel line and remove it
[02:48] <diytto> L1nuxRules: No idea how to achieve that in Ubuntu
[02:49] <L1nuxRules> diytoo or have you tried booting runlevel 3?
[02:49] <diytto> qin: Done
[02:49] <qin> diytto: boot
[02:49] <diytto> L1nuxRules: No idea whatthat is
[02:49] <diytto> qin: Booting
[02:49] <L1nuxRules> diytto neither am I sorry adding init=/bin/sh doesent work with anything not RH
[02:50] <diytto> qin: Same screen
[02:50] <L1nuxRules> although some Debian stuff doesent work with ubuntu
[02:50] <diytto> qin: What is the splash?
[02:50] <qin> diytto: Atl-Ctrl-F1 and sudo service gdm stop
[02:51] <kiichiro> I have a question about the Ctrl+Alt+F1
[02:51] <diytto> qin: Worked!
[02:51] <qin> diytto: That horrible purple think before login.
[02:51] <L1nuxRules> diytto wheres your box hanging at boot?
[02:51] <qin> kiichiro: Ask
[02:52] <diytto> qin: Does that even do anything?
[02:52] <diytto> L1nuxRules: Nowhere: the resolution is just set wrong
[02:52] <qin> L1nuxRules: He could start whole gnome via sudo satrtx from term
[02:53] <L1nuxRules> I dont do guis
[02:53] <qin> diytto: Thinking
[02:53] <kiichiro> do I put something special for username/password, or do I just put my regular login credentials,  like when the computer starts up do I put in that information or some other information
[02:53] <diytto> qin: So now it will just be a black screen?
[02:53] <astrozombie> when i boot ubuntu 11.04 i see the purple splash screen just sitting there for a while, i have to hit enter or something to get it moving along
[02:54] <qin> diytto: just out of luck: sudo service gdm start
[02:54] <qin> kiichiro: Your username, and your password
[02:54] <diytto> qin: The screen is messed up like usual
[02:54] <tjiggi_fo> kiichiro, you enter the username and password which you filled in when you installed ubuntu
[02:54] <pksadiq> diytto: are you having ubuntu itself, or kubuntu or something like that?
[02:55] <diytto> Like the photo i sent you
[02:55] <diytto> pksadiq: Ubuntu
[02:55] <kiichiro> intersting, tried it and says incorrect
[02:55] <tjiggi_fo> kiichiro, at boot, or at login or on a live CD?
[02:55] <L1nuxRules> yep your logins are noob user > with root access even though we forbid root lol
[02:56] <pksadiq> diytto: still you can't get sudo service gdm start?
[02:56] <kiichiro> like I can sign in okay
[02:56] <qin> diytto: stop gdm, I need moment. you can try to startx
[02:56] <kiichiro> but when I do the ctrl alt F1 it says incorrect
[02:56] <diytto> pksadiq: It starts, my screen resolution is just set wrong an i have no idea how tochange it
[02:57] <pksadiq> diytto: system>preferences>monitors?
[02:57] <qin> kiichiro: try to type your password in username "field" to see if its typed corectly
[02:57] <Hilikus> has anyone had luck running boxee in ubuntu 11.04? i get a fatal error in the logs FATAL: CApplication::Create: Unable to init rendering system
[02:57] <mahir256> cuchulainn: sorry for the late reply. i looked for drivers, but i couldn't find any that would possibly fit your situation.
[02:57] <tjiggi_fo> kiichiro, just hit ctrl-alt-F7
[02:58] <diytto> qin: I get a black screen with startx
[02:58] <diytto> pksadiq: How can i do that without being able to see the screen
[02:59] <diytto> pksadiq: The screen looks like this http://d.diytto.com/mFq6
[02:59] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, nw...appreciate the effort...having no luck here either...is there somewhere i can see what driver is being used at login, as opposed to within session/
[02:59] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, /
[02:59] <L1nuxRules> diyto can you get into single user or a cli login i.e level 3 if you dont answer this time then fek offf lol
[02:59] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, seems to be a problem pretty specific to me...
[03:00] <tjiggi_fo> !language | L1nuxRules
[03:00] <diytto> L1nuxRules: How
[03:01] <mahir256> hmmm...i don't think i can help you with _that_; i have not needed to see processes running before session, so i don't actually know how to see them
[03:02] <qin> diytto: change "console" to "anyboby" in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
[03:02] <pksadiq> diytto: well, I think in tty you need to type sudo Xorg -configure
[03:02] <L1nuxRules> diytto well dont know the way in ubuntu but the equivalent of adding init=/bin/sh when grub starts  press e to edit but thats the second liune on red hat based boxes but it dont work on ubuintu#
[03:02] <mahir256> anyone else here can help cuchulainn with his problem?
[03:03]  * mahir256 needs to leave urgently
[03:03] <Cuchulainn> mahir256, nw...i appreciate the attempt...too inexperienced to know myself...
[03:04] <L1nuxRules> whats the problem?
[03:05] <diytto> qin: Done
[03:05] <[THC]AcidRain> can anyone really just help me setup the postfix mail server? it keeps saying the mail is queued, and it wont send
[03:05] <qin> diytto: once again: xinit -- :1 vt8
[03:05] <qin> diytto: and with No sudo: startx
[03:05] <diytto> qin: Done
[03:05] <Hilikus> i don't have a xorg.conf file. is there any way to create one for my setup?
[03:05] <L1nuxRules> acid rain service postfix status what does that say
[03:06] <pksadiq> Hilikus: which ubuntu are you using?
[03:06] <diytto> qin: Server is already actuve for display 0
[03:06] <Hilikus> pksadiq: 11.04
[03:06] <qin> diytto: Right, sudo service gdm stop
[03:06] <Cuchulainn> anyone can give me advice on upgrading...usually, i have an aliased command (new) that reads: "sudo apt-get update,sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y,sudo apt-get autoremove -y,sudo apt-get clean"...
[03:06] <puff> My pixel ratio appears odd on my new laptop (thinkpad t520).  How do I check that?
[03:06] <pksadiq> Hilikus: in 11.04 xorg.conf file have been renamed to xorg.conf.d , I think
[03:07] <diytto> qin: Now try again?
[03:07] <qin> diytto: yes.
[03:07] <diytto> qin: Black screen
[03:07] <Cuchulainn> the question is, should i use upgrade as opposed to dist-upgrade?...and why does the auto "-y" switch on the dist-upgrade sometime leave packages not upgraded?
[03:08] <puff> Oddly, I don't seem to have a Preferences/Display option, where is screen resolution controlled? (t520, ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[03:08] <puff> ).
[03:08] <L1nuxRules> [THC]AcidRain> try service postfgix status and let us know the output
[03:08] <pksadiq> diytto: well,check thi : in tty you need to type sudo service gdm stop        and     sudo Xorg -configure
[03:08] <pksadiq> puff: preferences>monitors
[03:08] <haz3lnut> WTF! This blows!
[03:08] <puff> Preferences/Monitors gives me a dialog for monitors, but I can't change anything.
[03:08] <Cuchulainn> or any other suggestions for making that line of script better?
[03:08] <qin> diytto: Not good, time to see logs, Xorg.1.log , messages , syslog
[03:08] <haz3lnut> Just got my invite to google music
[03:08] <puff> And "Detect Monitors" doesn't seem to do anything.
[03:08] <haz3lnut> no Linux upload!
[03:08] <haz3lnut> ?
[03:09] <[THC]AcidRain> L1nuxRules: says postfix is running
[03:09] <pksadiq> puff: do you use nvidia?
[03:09] <ploidl387> haz3lnut: Yes, Google are quite happy to use Linux to power their entire company, but have no commitment to supporting it with their products
[03:09] <diytto> qin: Where are these?
[03:09] <L1nuxRules> [THC]AcidRain> ok can you telnet to port 25 on localhost?
[03:09] <haz3lnut> I am EXTREMELY Disapointed!
[03:09] <qin> diytto: You could compare Xorg.0.log too. /var/log
[03:09] <puff> pksadiq: It's the one that has nvidia, but I haven't done anything special, other than installing 10.4 LTS.
[03:09] <[THC]AcidRain> L1nuxRules: yes i can
[03:10] <haz3lnut> THIS CAN'T STAND!
[03:10] <ploidl387> puff: If you've installed the restricted drivers you have to use the NVidia Control panel instead
[03:10] <qin> diytto: What does (from tty1): sudo startx -- :1
[03:10] <haz3lnut> We need to mobilize
[03:10] <pksadiq> puff: if you have installed nvidia drivers (not done by default) you can use the package nvidia-settings
[03:10] <L1nuxRules> [THC]AcidRain> tail /var/log/maillog whats that saying?
[03:10] <qin> haz3lnut: Can I have invite?
[03:10] <ploidl387> haz3lnut: They're a company designed to make money, they're going to support the most common options i.e. not Linux
[03:11] <[THC]AcidRain> L1nuxRules: file does not exist
[03:11] <diytto> qin: How do i get to tty1
[03:11] <puff> ploidl387: I did Administration/Hardware Drivers, but it said it couldn't find any proprietary drivers.
[03:11] <qin> diytto: Alt-Ctrl-F1
[03:11] <L1nuxRules> [THC]AcidRain> hmm try cd /var and then touch test
[03:12] <diytto> qin: Black screen
[03:12] <pksadiq> puff: in terminal type lshw -C video           does it show nVidia?
[03:12] <haz3lnut> qin, I'll see if they offer that
[03:13] <haz3lnut> ploidl387, making money has nothing to do with it.  A simple javascript would allow to upload files.
[03:13] <pksadiq> !ot | haz3lnut
[03:13] <diytto> haz3lnut: There are no invites
[03:13] <[THC]AcidRain> L1nuxRules: it wont let me send a mail. it will just say its queued
[03:13] <diytto> I asked my friend
[03:14] <puff> pksadiq: Yeah, it shows nvidia.
[03:14] <haz3lnut> Who is ubottu?
[03:14] <diytto> qin: How could i get my logs to here?
[03:14] <haz3lnut> This is an ubuntu support question
[03:14] <Clerisy> when I "chmod +x" my .sh file, it doesnt change
[03:14] <[THC]AcidRain> L1nuxRules: like im totally lost man. i dont know what went wrong or where
[03:14] <puff> pksadiq: http://pastebin.com/Rm0RitxZ
[03:15] <L1nuxRules> [THC]AcidRain> is the /var partition full, have you restarted potfix and are you getting spammed or hosting someone whos spamming?
[03:15] <diytto> qin: After startx i did alt ctrl F1 and it repeats No protocol specified over and over again
[03:15] <[THC]AcidRain> grrr im back
[03:15] <haz3lnut> If I get kicked, it's no wonder ubuntu/linux will NEVER be respected.
[03:16] <[THC]AcidRain> and the irc just said that my hostnames dont match. so now im thinking i really messed up soemwhere :/
[03:16] <IdleOne> haz3lnut: What is your Ubuntu support question?
[03:16] <qin> diytto: do you have sshsever on both your machines?
[03:16] <haz3lnut> IdleOne, Why can't I upload to google music from my computer?
[03:16] <IdleOne> ask google
[03:17] <pksadiq> puff: so you can install nvidia-current package to activate it, but if you *have*time to play with your computer,
[03:17] <qin> diytto: One more, what driver (graphics) are you using?
[03:17] <puff> pksadiq: Yesssss...?
[03:17] <haz3lnut> IdleOne, If I'm the only one who asks, they will ignore me.  We need a movement. A massive volume of requests.  Which can only be started in this channel.
[03:18] <arch_nme> how to I compile a program that I downloaded?
[03:18] <bluesky> hgh
[03:18] <diytto> qin: If ubuntu comes with ssh i should have it
[03:18] <IdleOne> haz3lnut: this channel is not for starting revolutions. Please take it elsewhere
[03:18] <pksadiq> puff: you might need *alot* of time to configure it, its buggy
[03:18] <diytto> And i am back to command prompt
[03:18] <diytto> qin: I don't know what graphics card
[03:18] <puff> pksadiq: Ah, okay, sounds like I might be better off leaving it alone until either a) I have time to fiddle with it or b) the bugs get shaken out.
[03:18] <qin> diytto: does not, sudo apt-get insatll openssh-server (on both)
[03:18] <haz3lnut> IdleOne, Not a revolution, an evolution, but please point me to the correct channel with as many linux users as this one.
[03:19] <diytto> qin: It is a laptop
[03:19] <puff> now if I could just figure out why the battery dies after 2-3 hours instead of 8-9 hours...
[03:19] <IdleOne> haz3lnut: Please stop with the off topic discussion
[03:19] <pksadiq> puff: might be a hardware problem
[03:20] <diytto> qin: Is there a way to use wifi with shell?
[03:20] <haz3lnut> IdleOne, ok kick me and prove my point.
[03:20] <L1nuxRules> arch_nme as long as you have all the dependencies ./configure && make && make instal ...
[03:20] <Chotaz> Is it possible to apply permissions(755) for all the folders(/BASE/a and /BASE/b) inside a specific directory(BASE) and another permission(664) to all the files included at that same directory(/BASE) and subdirectories(/BASE/a and /BASE/b)?
[03:20] <IdleOne> haz3lnut: what point would that be? that you are here to troll?
[03:20] <L1nuxRules> arch_nme but check the README first
[03:20] <jvm_> hi. two old 10.04 ubuntu installations with same software accessing the usb port: on one eveything just works, on the other, usb access works only as root flawlessly. any hint what might be different/how to fix it?
[03:21] <arch_nme> linuxrules, yeah, I read that online but I don't understand what that means really, I just run those commends from within the dir or how do I direct them at what I want to compile?
[03:21] <qin> diytto: lspci | grep Display for graphis card
[03:21] <L1nuxRules> arch_nme and spell install correctly :)
[03:21] <[THC]AcidRain> L1nuxRules: can you help me?
[03:21] <haz3lnut> IdleOne, I'm here to generate support for email campaign on google to support linux.
[03:21] <arch_nme> linuxrules, I can not speel
[03:21] <IdleOne> haz3lnut: like I said this is not the place to do it.
[03:21] <L1nuxRules> depends what with
[03:21] <wildgoose> !ops
[03:21] <diytto> qin: Nothing shows
[03:21] <IdleOne> !ot > haz3lnut
[03:21] <[THC]AcidRain> L1nuxRules: pretty much a complete walkthrough on where im messing up with postfix
[03:22] <IdleOne> wildgoose: yes?
[03:22] <qin> diytto: Wifi, Do you have any usb drive under the hand? lspci?
[03:22] <[THC]AcidRain> im not sure if setting it up as a full mail server is what is best. im thinking just a relay.
[03:22] <wildbat> Chotaz: there is -R option for chmod ~ checj man page
[03:22] <[THC]AcidRain> i just want to be able to send and recieve mail from my box. but im using godaddy.com for domain forwarding
[03:22] <diytto> qin: The graphics card is an ATI  Radeon RV250
[03:22] <Chotaz> wildbat, if I use -R won't it aplly the same permission to both files and folder inside that directory?
[03:23] <wildgoose> IdleOne, Didn't mean to sound the alarm, I just thought it would give me a list from ubottu.
[03:23] <diytto> qin: I do have a usb drive handy
 I need troubleshooting time with postfix tbh
[03:23] <IdleOne> wildgoose: no worries
[03:23] <[THC]AcidRain> you know what. nvm. cancel that. im going to see if i can find sometype of book about it at books a million
[03:23] <IdleOne> wildgoose: /msg chanserv access #channel-name list
[03:23] <[THC]AcidRain> i think my issue is bigger than what anyone can really help me unless they were here with em
[03:23] <[THC]AcidRain> me*
[03:24] <pksadiq> Chotaz: I think some thing like this :   find -type d | while read x ; do chmod 755 "$x" ; done
[03:24] <wildgoose> IdleOne, Thankyou
[03:24] <qin> diytto: Usb is ok, plug it, sudo mkdir /media/logcarrier && sudo fdisk -l
[03:24] <L1nuxRules> check /var/log/maillog and the archived ones also check /var/log/messages that will log all the smtp and po/imap traffic
[03:24] <diytto> qin: Hold on
[03:24] <[THC]AcidRain> first, can you tell me how to change my hostname from "mail" back to
[03:24] <[THC]AcidRain> "acid-desktop"
[03:25] <L1nuxRules> hostname whatiwantit
[03:25] <diytto> qin: Done
[03:25] <qin> diytto: fglrxinfo (to see driver)
[03:26] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[03:26] <qin> diytto: Is your usb listed and /dev/sdb1 ?
[03:26] <diytto> qin: Command not found
[03:26] <[THC]AcidRain> see. now im mad. that didnt work before... and it just worked fine now :/
[03:26] <qin> diytto: ok
[03:26] <diytto> qin: I have no idea where its mounted
[03:27] <L1nuxRules> diytto fdisk -l
[03:27] <puff> pksadiq: Thanks for your advice.
[03:27] <qin> diytto: It is not mounted yet, give me line from sudo fdisk -l for NOT /dev/sda
[03:28] <diytto> qin: /dev/sdb
[03:28] <diytto> qin: I can move and plug it in to ethernet
[03:29] <luisman> hello comunity
[03:29] <diytto> Hey Vexenon :)
[03:29] <luisman> I'm here once again for your support
[03:29] <qin> diytto: No worries, sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/logcarrer
[03:30] <L1nuxRules> or just mount -a to mount /etc/fstab settings
[03:30] <qin> diytto: And sudo cp /var/log/* /media/log<TAB>
[03:30] <diytto> qin: Says i must specify filesystem type
[03:30] <qin> diytto: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/logcarrer
[03:31] <Osmodivs> Hello. WHy can't I copy this folder? osmodivs@Djiin:~$ sudo cp Ultra/LuxRender/lux-v08-x86_64-sse2-OpenCL/luxblend-2.5/src/luxrender /usr/share/blender/2.57/scripts/addons
[03:31] <Osmodivs> cp: omitting directory `Ultra/LuxRender/lux-v08-x86_64-sse2-OpenCL/luxblend-2.5/src/luxrender'
[03:31] <luisman> I would like to know how do i make the system to use a soundcard i want, it seems  i have to soundcards, they are using the same module snd-hda-intel, the one i want to use needs to use the module snd-via82xx, how do i unistall that driver(snd-hda-intel) and tell the system to use the snd-via82xx as sound module and configure the device?
[03:31] <qin> Osmodivs: cp -r
[03:31] <qin> diytto: Is this usb formatted?
[03:31] <diytto> qin: <tab>
[03:32] <diytto> qin: Yes
[03:32] <diytto> It mounted
[03:32] <diytto> Btw
[03:32] <diytto> I used sdb1
[03:32] <Osmodivs> thank you, qin
[03:32] <qin> diytto: <TAB> is key above capslock
[03:32] <diytto> Lol i know
[03:32] <qin> diytto: Autocomplete
[03:32] <Osmodivs> qin, What does -r stands for?
[03:33] <qin> Osmodivs: recrusive, man cp
[03:33] <diytto> qin: Done
[03:33] <jamesklyne> Wu irks with rm too
[03:33] <jamesklyne> *works
[03:33] <diytto> qin: I didnt know about the auto complete. That is cool :D
[03:34] <tjiggi_fo> luisman, you need to blacklist the one you don't want to use
[03:34] <tjiggi_fo> !blacklist | luisman
[03:35] <L1nuxRules> does ubuntu not have /etc/rc.sysinit to process on boots?
[03:35] <qin> diytto: See my pm, and gimme a bit time.
[03:35] <diytto> qin: I replied
[03:36] <itaylor57> !upstart | L1nuxRules
[03:37] <L1nuxRules> thanks itaylor57
[03:37] <MagicJ> .
[03:37] <itaylor57> np
[03:39] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I use Ubuntu Classic desktop instead of Unity since I feel it hard to use.
[03:44] <gralamin> Hey guys. I'm having some halting problems in ubuntu 11.04 with a SSD.
[03:47] <kellnola> damnit, what is the package name to install the gnome classic desktop in 11.04?
[03:47] <pksadiq> kellnola: its already available ,
[03:47] <santhosh> hi
[03:48] <santhosh> hello
[03:48] <luisman> is here an expert on soundcard issues?
[03:48] <pksadiq> !classic | kellnola
[03:48] <santhosh> can i know about cloud server
[03:48] <maahes> I need help: I need to chroot back into my live usb, but /etc/passwd shows no: root,livesessionuser, or my user.
[03:49] <santhosh> i need to know about ubuntu cloud
[03:49] <maahes> !cloud
[03:49] <maahes> there's a channel for it too, I was hoping that would spit that out
[03:49] <santhosh> what
[03:50] <santhosh> is it for server
[03:50] <maahes> yersh.
[03:50] <santhosh> server s are command line oriented or gui
[03:50] <maahes> santhosh: cli by default
[03:51] <santhosh> maahes:k
[03:51] <santhosh> maahes:where r u from
[03:52] <Iszak> So I installed Wubi and upon first boot up after the Ubuntu loading screen it goes black and starts to heat up, and does nothing, I'm on a Dell XPS 15z
[03:55] <maahes> I need help: I need to chroot back into my live usb, but /etc/passwd shows no: root,livesessionuser, or my user.
[03:55] <wildbat> maahes: what do chroot have to do with /etc/passwd?
[03:56] <maahes> wildbat: Hrrm, well I suppose I don't need to chroot into it per-se, I just can't boot it at all without root/livesessionuser.
[03:58] <Guest75486> hi
[03:58] <luisman> Does anyone know how to configure a driver module?
[03:59] <luisman> in order to be used by an specific device?
[03:59] <maahes> oh damn, it looks like /bin got thrashed
[04:00] <ward_> how do i spoof my mac addy ?
[04:01] <santhosh> for server which messenger is good
[04:02] <ward_> yall sure are quite tonight
[04:02] <santhosh> does any body know
[04:02] <ward_> quiet***
[04:02] <santhosh> which chat messenger is gud for server
[04:02] <ward_> i dont anderstand ur question
[04:03] <ward_> understand*
[04:03] <ward_> man i cant type tonight
[04:03] <ward_> like what kinda messneger?
[04:03] <santhosh> hi
[04:03] <ward_> hello
[04:03] <santhosh> chat messenger
[04:04] <santhosh> like xchat
[04:04] <ward_> for server i am not sure
[04:04] <santhosh> gui similarily cui
[04:04] <AndChat-> irssi
[04:04] <Iszak> this describes my problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/46519/ubuntu-wont-run-my-laptops-screen
[04:04] <maahes> there's really no best messenger, if you're going to install a gui, use whatever you want. If you're going to use cli use irssi or weechat
[04:04] <chemicalvamp> my touchpad needs to be tweaked.. the vertical scroll zone begins too far left, its about 2 times wider that it should be and google is failing me.. anybody know what i need to do?
[04:05] <szal> santhosh: centerim
[04:05] <santhosh> its k
[04:05] <santhosh> can we transfer files
[04:05] <santhosh> from cui
[04:05] <santhosh> using those messengers
[04:06] <wuchtl> !pastebinit
[04:06] <Clerisy> Can anybody spot what's wrong with my startup script, because It's not starting up. http://pastebin.com/Wg4NpLur   It's called startup.sh , I placed it in /usr/bin/ and added it to session startup
[04:07] <wuchtl> is there something like pastebinit for images too? ... until now just fond a script.. it works but i was wondering if ther is something "official"
[04:07] <wuchtl> fond= found
[04:07] <wuchtl> wuchtl: tesssst
[04:07] <maahes> santhosh: yes you can do file transfer.
[04:08] <Clerisy> wuchtl» imgur.com,
[04:09] <ward_> Iszak, try a diffrent video card
[04:09] <Iszak> ...
[04:09] <Iszak> oh yes, I'm going to open my laptop and perform surgury and modify the graphics card.
[04:09] <Iszak> modify/change
[04:10] <santhosh> :maahes how
[04:10] <wuchtl> Clerisy: thing you didn't get me right. pastebinit is a simple command that automatically uploads the text file i choose. i wass wondering if ther is an equivalent for images...
[04:10] <santhosh> using
[04:10] <maahes> santhosh for that I direct you to google or #irssi or #weechat
[04:10] <Clerisy> wuchtl» there is a script you can download on imgur.com
[04:10] <santhosh> k
[04:10] <santhosh> f9
[04:11] <arch_nme> can anyone tell me about how to use the compiling commands
[04:11] <arch_nme> such as make
[04:11] <wuchtl> Clerisy: i allready have a script that works... just wanted to know if there is an "official" packages for that... but thanks your cor concern and interest. sorry that i didn't make my question clear...
[04:15] <maahes> I have a severely damaged system I am unable to log into, I am trying to repair it, if anyone can help me, or direct me to a chan in which I am more likely to get this kind of support, I would greatly appreciate it
[04:15] <nardev> hello how can i list only files with permission 614?
[04:16] <rypervenche> nardev: You can use "find" to do the trick. I'm not sure the exact command though.
[04:17] <rypervenche> nardev: find / -perm 614
[04:17] <nardev> thnx rypervenche
[04:17] <nardev> thanmk you very much
[04:17] <rypervenche> nardev: If you only want files and not folders add "-type f"
[04:19] <wuchtl> nardev: what you can also do is to do a 'ls -al' and then grep for the correct '-rw-----' or what ever 614 is... the find systax was never a fried fro me :P
[04:19] <wuchtl> friend
[04:19] <nardev> wuchtl, thank you very much
[04:20] <wuchtl> nardev: ok, for find you have to use '-perm 614'
[04:21] <rulolxd> can any1 tell where "preferences" is located @ gnome shell?
[04:22] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I have an error when running the update manger after I updated to 11.04 .... W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/partner/source/Sources  404  No
[04:22] <U-b-u-n-t-u> any idea why?
[04:23] <ward_> how do i spoof my mac addy in natty narwhal?
[04:24] <eiriksvin> does anyone know how I could build a 3D animated desktop background utilizing a blender project of mine?
[04:24] <eiriksvin> I'm checking #blender for more info, but any help is good help
[04:24] <ward_> eiriksvin, sir/maam if u find the answer to that pls let me know! awesome question!
[04:25] <prasanth_pius> hi
[04:25] <Roric> Hello.
[04:26] <eiriksvin> I have some wicked ideas that I would love to be able to implement on Ubuntu, like finding a way to have the classic workspace switcher to show the label of any maximized program
[04:27] <eiriksvin> in a tooltip
[04:28] <puntu> can anyone help me with
[04:28] <puntu> changing from server cui to gui
[04:28] <puntu> :maahes
[04:28] <puntu> :maahes r u there
[04:28] <jefelex> puntu - you have to install the whole gnome pakeage to be able to do that
[04:29] <jefelex> you can install it on a server platform
[04:29] <eiriksvin> thats why I wished that they would have kept the classic veiw, just improved on it as another release, we have so many great ideas... as an open source community, the core idea should always remain
[04:29] <wildbat> puntu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:30] <puntu> :wildbat its not working showing some errors
[04:31] <Nobgul-BNC> puntu: I suggest. sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[04:31] <Nobgul-BNC> That will give you the bare minimum for vncing into the server.
[04:31] <puntu> wheather it will work
[04:31] <eiriksvin> I remember dinking around on the same basic style of Linux GUI when I was a kid, I'm 29 now... look at windows, they kept alot of the basic windows principle gui since 95, Linux should have remained the same, with just expanding in a better direction...
[04:32] <puntu> gnome-core is server edition
[04:32] <Nobgul-BNC> puntu: If your getting errors paste them into pastebin and let us see
[04:32] <jefelex> apt will take care of dependencies - what errors are being displayed?
[04:33] <eiriksvin> Why did they change the search style, the original search style is the fastest search style of all in Ubuntu... (locate +i) should have been given a pretty gui and boom, superspeed pretty search thats clean
[04:33] <jefelex> I was using red hat version 7 with gnome way back in the 90's!
[04:34] <SAM_theman> how do i convert multiple files to .pdf via terminal ?
[04:34] <jefelex> gotta go
[04:35] <Nobgul-BNC> SAM_theman, all the same type of files or diff ones?
[04:35] <SAM_theman> all the same type
[04:35] <Nobgul-BNC> what extnesion?
[04:35] <SAM_theman> these files I want to convert end in .doc
[04:35] <Nobgul-BNC> html doc?
[04:35] <rulolxd> does any1 know where preferences are located at gnome shell?
[04:35] <Nobgul-BNC> ok
[04:35] <Nobgul-BNC> thats eacy
[04:35] <FloodBot1> Nobgul-BNC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <Oath> I'm trying to buy something from the Ubuntu Store, and I need to know what £ 16.00 in USD is; I googled it and it returned $25.90 (ish) just wanted to clarify from someone who might have better knowledge.
[04:35] <SAM_theman> I tried convert *.doc but says something about wrong image ...
[04:36] <SAM_theman> "convert *.doc xyz.pdf "
[04:36] <arch_nme> Oath, they ahve currency converters in google
[04:36] <Nobgul-BNC> Yea there is something I installed to do it but now i can't remember the name give me a few i am sure i will rmember
[04:37] <Oath> that's why I said I checked with google but I just wanted to make sure with someone else
[04:37] <arch_nme> Oath, isn't someone else going to just google it also?
[04:37] <Oath> Google says that they can't guarentee that the conversion is 100% correct, and maybe someone who lives in the UK might already know the conversion, or perhaps someone in the US who has already gone through something similar.
[04:38] <arch_nme> Oath, I don't think most people have current exchange rates commited to memory, I mean they change all the time
[04:38] <arch_nme> Oath, they change everyday
[04:38] <Nobgul-BNC> SAM_theman, c heck out unoconv i think that was the program
[04:38] <Oath> They change every moment I'm well aware. Never mind I'm not getting anywhere.
[04:38] <arch_nme> Oath, seriously looking it up is much much more reliaab;e than asking someone
[04:39] <fluffman> I can't get sound to play from my terminal or tty
[04:39] <eiriksvin> Linux will always be my primary OS, if i get a computer with any Win OS on it, it will be on the smallest little bit of a partition that I can manage... I am really thinking about trying virtual machine, because then I can just massacre the win junk I don't like... I dunno, I nuked win7 only 3 days after I got Ubuntu (10.10 at the time)
[04:39] <fluffman> used vlc, mplayer, bplay, aplay, cplay, and more
[04:39] <arch_nme> I'm missing something called libcurl I need to compile something
[04:39] <arch_nme> how would I get that
[04:39] <Nobgul-BNC> fluffman, is puleaudio running?
[04:39] <puntu> :nobgul-BNC  the errors such as failed to fetch
[04:40] <th0r> arch_nme: if you are trying to compile, you need the -dev package for that lib
[04:40] <fluffman> Nobgul-BNC: yes, and alsamixer works to adjust the sound from youtube, etc
[04:40] <Nobgul-BNC> sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev
[04:41] <eiriksvin> th0r: hail, are you Asatruar?
[04:41] <Nobgul-BNC> arch_nme ^^
[04:41] <arch_nme> th0r, where do I get these dev packages, I just need libcurl or that's what it said when I ran ./configure
[04:42] <th0r> arch_nme: should be in the repos
[04:42] <arch_nme> do I search in the software center?
[04:42] <arch_nme> th0r, what do you mean repos?
[04:42] <th0r> arch_nme: synaptic, or apt-get
[04:43] <szal> arch_nme: where you install programs from, they don't come out of thin air ;)
[04:43] <arch_nme> so just type like "apt-get libcurl"
[04:43] <szal> arch_nme: no, you don't, you're missing an argument
[04:43] <th0r> arch_nme: no, I just said you need the dev package
[04:43] <eiriksvin> arch_nme: Nobgul-BNC said to put that into a terminal> sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev
[04:43] <arch_nme> szal, I generally use the software center, I'm trying to install something now that is not in there though
[04:43] <th0r> arch_nme: if you are having this hard a time understanding repo, do yourself a favour and don't try compiling software
[04:44] <szal> v   libcurl-dev                                                   -
[04:44] <arch_nme> th0r, that's not helpful, if I just sit here and never try anything how would I ever learn anything
[04:44] <szal> if it's not there for you, then your system is b0rked, because it should..  by default
[04:44] <tensorpudding> arch_nme: what is it
[04:45] <coz_> arch_nme,  actually the lead developer for  compiz , just a few years ago, didnt know how to compile an application,, so keep truckin :)
[04:45] <eiriksvin> arch_nme: your doing fine, do you know how to open a terminal?
[04:45] <th0r> arch_nme: correct, but I wouldn't want you trying brain surgery after completing high school biology
[04:45] <arch_nme> th0r, no lives are on the line here
[04:45] <extraclassic> arch_nme: you can search packages with "aptitude search <search-string>" then install with "apt-get install <package>"
[04:46] <arch_nme> eiriksvin, yes I'm in the term about to try that command of yours
[04:46] <SAM_theman> It works but, can it convert all those .doc(s) into a single .pdf
[04:46] <tensorpudding> huh, libcurl-dev doesn't appear in the software center
[04:47] <arch_nme> eiriksvin, how did you find that it the full thing was libcurl4-openssl-dev???
[04:47] <Nobgul-BNC> ͸libcurl4-openssl-dev should
[04:47] <eiriksvin> arch_nme: then your doing good, don't worry about what you don't know... I only had Ubuntu for 3 days before I nuked Win7, I am fine
[04:47] <Nobgul-BNC> arch_nme, I found it out because I have needed to install it a few times.
[04:47] <arch_nme> Nobgul-BNC, is there a way to look that stuff up if you didn't know, is that what extraclassic is reffering to?
[04:48] <arch_nme> just out of curousity
[04:48] <tensorpudding> ah, virtual package
[04:48] <SAM_theman> Nobgul-BNC: bump
[04:48] <tensorpudding> why virtual packages don't appear in the software center, i'm not sure
[04:48] <antioch> anyone good with boost?
[04:48] <tensorpudding> boost would be ##c++
[04:48] <tensorpudding> this isn't a programming channel
[04:48] <antioch> yea i cant get on that chanel
[04:48] <vitor-br> my LibreOffice prints a vertical bar on the line that has a note, someone is going through this? or is it just me?
[04:49] <Nobgul-BNC> arch_nme, Yea you can just google the error. Most times you will find the solution
[04:49] <antioch> ok
[04:49] <eiriksvin> arch_nme: I would suggest learning where to search online for info... I always search like this in google: Ubuntu how to blah blah blah
[04:49] <Nobgul-BNC> SAM_theman, You would need to create a script. something like... For each in pairs do blah or something
[04:49] <arch_nme> eiriksvin, I've heard of google yes I just thought maybe there was a way from within the os to search for that kind of thing
[04:50] <extraclassic> arch_nme: that command will search your repositories for your string and tell you exact package names you'd need to use to install....so doing "aptitude search gnome" would return hundreds of packages
[04:50] <Nobgul-BNC> SAM_theman, you may want to check #bash for that though.
[04:50] <arch_nme> extraclassic, ahh, cool
[04:51] <SAM_theman> lol
[04:52] <SAM_theman> scripting days
[04:52] <eiriksvin> arch_nme: oh, well informational searches in Google will become your best friend when dealing with Ubuntu... I keep the open www.google.com as my homepage, it makes thing fast, or you could also use the searchbar in Firefox, it is just as good
[04:52] <Nobgul-BNC> Yea =/
[04:52] <vitor-br> my LibreOffice prints a vertical bar on the line that has a note, someone is going through this? or is it just me?
[04:56] <eiriksvin> the more you research a certain subject, the better off you will be... trust me, I had a heck of a time even using Ubuntu at all when I first started because I couldn't get my USB wifi adapter to work, even using out-dated blogs... then after about 4 hours of research, learning all I needed to know, I found a way to run my adapter native... and then I dropped win7 like a bad habit... and then played angry rhino in a tea shop
[04:56] <SAM_theman> Nobgul-BNC: nah I rather write a c++ application for that :-D
[04:56] <HackThePlanet> I need some new programming projects
[04:56] <HackThePlanet> in C/C++
[04:56] <SAM_theman> HackThePlanet: team based or lone wolf?
[04:57] <HackThePlanet> team-based would be nice, since most of the stuff I did in college was solo
[04:57] <eiriksvin> SAM_theman: python is fun, and fast... it can be used for everything
[04:57] <SAM_theman> C is not my cup of joe but c++
[04:57] <grumete> hi, do you know what to do to play .mkv files properly?
[04:57] <SAM_theman> grumete: vlc?
[04:57] <HackThePlanet> VLC player?
[04:58] <grumete> tried vlc already... nothing
[04:58] <coz_> grumete,  you have all of the codecs installed ...yes?
[04:58] <SAM_theman> codecs?
[04:58] <arch_nme> vlc doesn't have codecs
[04:58] <grumete> I'm not sure coz_
[04:58] <arch_nme> they are built in the program
[04:58] <grumete> what codecs should I check out?
[04:59] <coz_> grumete,  ok first   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:59] <coz_> grumete,  also is this 32 or 64 bit
[04:59] <arch_nme> try gnome player
[04:59] <SAM_theman> grumete: do this... open terminal and place the file into your terminal beginning with vlc
[04:59] <eiriksvin> can't .mkv files be played right with banshee
[05:00] <SAM_theman> example "vlc pronofiles.mkv"
[05:00] <eiriksvin> I think I made some and they worked
[05:00] <grumete> mmh it says: E: Unable to clocate package ubuntu-restricted
[05:00] <grumete> ok lemmi try that too.
[05:00] <coz_> grumete,   open synaptic package manager,,,  search for ubuntu restricted
[05:01] <grumete> aight
[05:01] <SAM_theman> Dude run the file through the terminal to see what's the problem and post that output to a pastebin
[05:01] <eiriksvin> heh, oh yeah get the ubuntu-restricted and it will play it, thats why it says E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-restricted
[05:01] <grumete> SAM_theman did it, it was the same :(
[05:01] <coz_> grumete, when synaptic opens  go to  Settings  /  Repositories... second tab  and make sure anything there is enabled by ticking the box
[05:02] <grumete> SAM_theman: cannot open codec (Cook audio)
[05:02] <coz_> grumete,  then close that dialog and hit the  Reload  button in synaptic,,, then search for ubuntu restricted extras
[05:02] <jtreminio> Does anyone know how to hide a window's titlebar in XFCE? I'm not sure if compiz is active in XFCE, but pasting in the same text string into compiz-settings that hides an applications' titlebar does not seem to be working.
[05:02] <SAM_theman> oh okay
[05:02] <grumete> and more messages
[05:02] <SAM_theman> HackThePlanet: ill get back to u l8
[05:02] <grumete> coz_ doing what you said
[05:03] <HackThePlanet> SAM_theman: okay
[05:04] <SAM_theman> grumete:  sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd
[05:04] <grumete> ok
[05:04] <SAM_theman> grumete:  sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-esd
[05:04] <coz_> grumete,  tell me when you have done that but do not close synaptic yet
[05:04] <grumete> coz_ done
[05:04] <grumete> I checked everything
[05:05] <coz_> grumete,  ok  hit the search button and type   ubuntu restricted
[05:05] <grumete> SAM_theman:E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:05] <coz_> grumete,  when the search fi nishes  tick the Ubuntu -restricted-extras package for instllation
[05:06] <bazhang> grumete, either close other instances of apt or use sudo
[05:06] <SAM_theman> lol
[05:06] <SAM_theman> close em
[05:06] <SAM_theman> more than one apt/synaptic opened
[05:06] <grumete> bazhang you're right
[05:06] <grumete> yes
[05:06] <coz_> grumete,   but we still want synaptic opened dude
[05:06] <SAM_theman> HackThePlanet: been working on arrays all week
[05:07] <grumete> yep
[05:07] <SAM_theman> grumete: check "top" to make sure no apt's are running
[05:07] <grumete> almost finishing with the restricted package, and then I'll return to the vlc command :)
[05:07] <coz_> grumete,   did you install th e restricted extras or tick it for installation?
[05:07] <grumete> working on that coz_ :)
[05:07] <SAM_theman> followed by "kill [PID]"
[05:07] <coz_> grumete,  well no   when that installs hit search again and  type in     vlc
[05:08] <grumete> ok
[05:08] <coz_> grumete,   scroll down and tick all packages that vlc in the name
[05:08] <SAM_theman> coz_: not legacy ticks though
[05:08] <Nobgul-BNC> Also there is some html server vlc apps there i reckon.
[05:08] <coz_> SAM_theman,  well there are about 13  vlc packages includiing vlc itself
[05:09] <coz_> grumete,   when those have installed let me know
[05:09] <grumete> ok
[05:09] <coz_> grumete,   is this ubuntu 11.04.. and is it 32 of 64 bit
[05:09] <luisman> hi everybody
[05:09] <HackThePlanet> SAM_theman: arrays? sounds boring
[05:09] <grumete> I think it's 32 it's core i5
[05:10] <SAM_theman> coz_: oops
[05:10] <alira> Hello
[05:10] <coz_> grumete,   in terminal type     arch
[05:10] <luisman> I was wondering if anyone here know how to configure a module? I have two soundcards using the same module, but I want to use only one
[05:10] <grumete> coz_ : i686
[05:11] <coz_> grumete,  ok  then go here   http://packages.medibuntu.org/natty/w32codecs.html  , scoll down and download the w32codecs
[05:11] <alira> im sorry i have a problem with installing ubuntu11.04 inside ms windows i downloaded it with out wubi what should i do if i wanted to install it inside win xp?
[05:11] <coz_> grumete,  when that finished downloading  you can double click it to install
[05:11] <alira> no
[05:11] <benedict> alira: you will need the wubi version if you want to try it within windows
[05:11] <luisman> I was wondering if anyone here know how to configure a module? I have two soundcards using the same module, but I want to use only one
[05:12] <coz_> grumete,  also copy this command into termina.    sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh    although not a codec it will allow  dvd's to be played if you decide to do that later
[05:12] <alira> yeah! problem that i have is that i did not download it with wubi
[05:12] <benedict> luisman: woha, hold oyur horses... if no one is answering means, noone knows... pleas wait some more time than one minute to repost our question...
[05:12] <coz_> grumete,   after that you should be good to go.. however, if it still doesnt play you can probably convert it to .avi using ffmpeg
[05:13] <alira> and i do not know how to install it now
[05:13] <tang> 怎么进入中文？
[05:13] <Nobgul-BNC> !jp | tang
[05:13] <bazhang> !cn | tang
[05:13] <tang> THANKS
[05:13] <adurodea>  alira you can use vmware or virtualbox
[05:13] <benedict> alira: you can also install ubuntu from outside windows...  that's the common way
[05:13] <bazhang> tang /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:14] <luisman> benedict: thanks
[05:14] <adurodea> luisman: just set the one yo uwant as default and don't use the other one.
[05:14] <arch_nme> okay, this may seem a dumb question but it seems like I successfully compiled and installed this program but uhh, where it is?
[05:14] <jake_> hmmm
[05:14] <kazimiya> Hai
[05:15] <grumete> coz_ I'm doing what you said, thank you a lot :)
[05:15] <coz_> grumete,   if , again, that file doesn play let me k now  ,, I can tell you how to try to convert it to avi
[05:15] <adurodea> arch_nme: depends on the program most let you set where when doing ./configure using --prefix otherwise use find and look for it
[05:15] <alira> you know i know how to install it outside of win xp but what happend if i wanted to unistall it? another problem is that i donot want to lose my xp
[05:15] <grumete> SAM_theman, thank you a lot for your help.
[05:16] <arch_nme> adurodea, I didn't set anything I just typed ./configure
[05:16] <alira> vmware is nice , thats not slow?
[05:16] <arch_nme> adurodea, it could be anywhere on my hdd though?
[05:16] <luisman> adurodea: alsamixer does not recognize both, but lspci does
[05:16] <Nobgul-BNC> arch_nme, You can try the whereis command from a temrinal ie: whereis firefox
[05:17] <Chipzzz> arch_nme: pretty much everything winds up either in /opt or /usr/something
[05:17] <adurodea> alira: virtualbox/vmware you set how much of your resources it gets
[05:18] <Chipzzz> (usually /usr/share or /usr/local)
[05:18] <extraclassic> arch_nme: it's probably in /usr/local....when you compile stuff you can do "./configure --prefix=<directory>" and it'll put it wherever you want
[05:19] <SAM_theman> grumete: np
[05:19] <SAM_theman> grumete: did it work?
[05:19] <grumete> working on it buddie :)
[05:19] <extraclassic> arch_nme: also you can do "configure --help" and it will list custom compile options. The reason compiling would be preferred over a binary would be to customize your options for the software
[05:20] <SAM_theman> doesn't linux have screensharing ?
[05:21] <Nobgul-BNC> vncserver
[05:21] <coz_> SAM_theman,  you mean remote desktop?
[05:21] <Nobgul-BNC> There is a built in remote desktop but you need to accept the incomming connection.
[05:21] <SAM_theman> coz_: yeah
[05:21] <SAM_theman> but a application thats user friendly
[05:23] <extraclassic> SAM_theman: if you want to connect to a computer, you'd have to install a VNC server and run it...vino is a main one. Then there's a client called tsclient that's pretty good.
[05:23] <Chipzzz> SAM_theman: you can do a remote x session over ssh with nx
[05:23] <SAM_theman> https://join.me/419-617-064
[05:23] <SAM_theman> thats live my friends .. .feel free to follow me
[05:24] <wuchtlz> Chipzzz: nx? usually ssh with the '-X' option is enough...
[05:24] <hangthedj> http://www.nomachine.com/  It uses ssh, its much faster than vnc.
[05:24] <Nobgul-BNC> lol
[05:24] <Nobgul-BNC> Thats crazy sam
[05:25] <wuchtlz> SAM_theman: hahaha, that's cool... but a bit risky...
[05:25] <HackThePlanet> we might see his pron
[05:25] <Chipzzz> wuchtlz: ssh -X lets you open apps on the remote desktop but nx gives you a whole remote desktop
[05:26] <grumete> coz_ didn't work :( maybe it needs a restar in order to work?
[05:26] <Chipzzz> SAM_theman: I like join.me a lot! thanks for that
[05:26] <wuchtlz> Chipzzz: ah, kk thx
[05:26] <coz_> grumete,  not normally it doesnt,, but it cant hurt
[05:27] <grumete> ok I'm doing it.
[05:27] <coz_> grumete,  if that doesn work   we can try to convert to avi
[05:27] <grumete> thank you a LOT really coz_ you are so patient.
[05:31] <Iszak>  what do people use to sync their laptop to their desktop seaminglessly?
[05:31] <Chipzzz> SAM_theman: maybe if you get join.me to make a linux client I'll send u money
[05:32] <grumete> coz_ nothing :(
[05:32] <coz_> grumete,  ok
[05:32] <grumete> but it's alright man.
[05:32] <grumete> thank you very much.
[05:33] <Chipzzz> Iszak: sounds like a project for rsync
[05:33] <coz_> grumete,  ok open a terminal
[05:33] <coz_> grumete,  I assume this is a video ....yes?
[05:33] <Iszak> Chipzzz, certainly does but I don't really want to have to setup a cron to sync it, or have to manually execute it.
[05:33] <Iszak> what I'm aiming for is it to recognize I've modified/created/deletes a file and sync it
[05:34] <grumete> aight coz_
[05:34] <coz_> grumete,  ok  ready?
[05:34] <grumete> ready :)
[05:34] <coz_> grumete,   in that terminal    cd to the location of the file you are talking about
[05:35] <SAM_theman> lol
[05:35] <grumete> done coz_
[05:35] <SAM_theman> Lots of haters out there
[05:35] <hangthedj> Iszak, NFS mount on your laptop?
[05:35] <coz_> grumete  ok now   make sure ffmpeg is installed    sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[05:35] <hangthedj> although you'd need to open your desktop to the world.. :/
[05:36] <grumete> installing
[05:36] <grumete> done coz_
[05:36] <Iszak> hangthedj, I thought about that, but that would mean I'd need my desktop to always be on, and either need to sync the files manually or with a cron again
[05:37] <coz_> grumete,  ok  now    the command is     ffmpeg -i  name of file.mk4    nameof file.avi
[05:37] <Iszak> I'm wanting cloud storage which syncs with my desktop and laptop
[05:37] <grumete> converting to .avi :)
[05:38] <coz_> grumete,  excellent
[05:38] <Iszak> i love ffmpeg so simple but powerful
[05:38] <vandemar> Iszak: dropbox
[05:38] <coz_> grumete,  of course this may not work,, the file itself may not be perfect
[05:38] <Iszak> vandemar, yeah that was the final solution I thought of.
[05:39] <coz_> grumete,  out of curosity,, did you download this video?
[05:39] <dijonyummy> how do i mount an internal drive rw?  i try like this but doesnt work ... /dev/sda1	/mnt/2tb_drive	ntfs-3g	rw,dmask=002	0	0 , its read only, i cant delete stuff
[05:39] <grumete> yes man
[05:39] <grumete> it's .mkv file ...
[05:39] <coz_> grumete,  is it something I can download as well to test here?  lin k would be cool
[05:39] <grumete> Game of thrones :b
[05:40] <HackThePlanet> would anyone happen to need a novice C/C++/Java developer for any of their projects?
[05:40] <coz_> grumete,  and this is a video  not a game ...yes?
[05:40] <bazhang> !ot | HackThePlanet
[05:40] <grumete> nope
[05:40] <grumete> can I pm you coz_?
[05:40] <coz_> grumete,  sure
[05:40] <drhe1skt>  /dev/sda1 /mnt/2tb_drive ntfs-3g default 0 0
[05:40] <drhe1skt> try that
[05:41] <ferra> hey
[05:41] <f4rr3ll> hey
[05:42] <Chipzzz> kijonyummy: i think the param is "-w", not "rw"
[05:42] <ferra> do you know why my kernel is candela?
[05:42] <Chipzzz> sorry... dijonyummy
[05:42] <ferra> hell....
[05:42] <ferra> I like waffles...
[05:43] <bazhang> ferra, stay on topic please
[05:43] <ferra> ok
[05:43] <ferra> i compile my kernel and is not a generic
[05:43] <dijonyummy> oh thats in the fstab file so i dont think a - would be there
[05:43] <ferra> is candela
[05:43] <bazhang> ferra, why would you compile your kernel
[05:44] <ferra> why not?
[05:44] <ferra> but is 2.6.39.1-candela
[05:45] <bazhang> ferra, its not supported on ubuntu
[05:45] <ferra> what does it means candela instread of generic?
[05:45] <celthunder> ferra: where did yo uget the kernel from? and yo uset the name when you set the rest of the compiler options
[05:46] <ferra> i get it from Kernel.org
[05:46] <bazhang> ferra, well its not supported.
[05:46] <ferra> nop i dont set the name the compiler do it
[05:47] <ferra> the kernel is not supported?
[05:47] <celthunder> hmm default name usually is -generic or something then but idk if you didn't set it don't complain when it's not what you want
[05:47] <bazhang> ferra, 3rd party stuff is not, no
[05:47] <ferra> ok thanks
[05:50] <adurodea> I was trying out unity (usually used to dwm) i probably won't stick with it anyway but where do windows minimize to?
[05:51] <coz_> adurodea,  it should minimize to the launcher
[05:51] <adurodea> not there
[05:51] <coz_> hmm
[05:51] <adurodea> and yes it's still open.
[05:52] <coz_> adurodea,  is the icon for it in the launcher?
[05:52] <adurodea> (i can tell it's still open cause it's tmux in a small window and if i make it bigger and it were closed the first time it'd resize)
[05:52] <adurodea> yes
[05:52] <coz_> adurodea,  ok left click the icon in the laucnher
[05:52] <adurodea> that just opens a new one
[05:52] <dijonyummy> anyone know how to mount an internal ntfs drive?  i use in fstab... /dev/sda1       /mnt/2tb_drive  ntfs-3g defaults        0       0  but its not writeable and i cant delete. the ubuntu manual had something like this but it doesnt work for me
[05:52] <coz_> adurodea,   hmm I thought middle click launched a new instance
[05:53] <adurodea> dijonyummy: don't use ntfs-3g....ntfs support is now built into the kernel (or should be)
[05:54] <dijonyummy> so what should i use instead of ntfs-3g
[05:54] <adurodea> and either way the fs type isn't -3g i'm pretty sure
[05:54] <adurodea> try just ntfs
[05:54] <kitty_> hello everyone
[05:57] <bluebaron[4]> sup
[05:57] <bluebaron[4]> dijonyummy, adurodea yah ... wtf
[05:58] <dijonyummy> ok nautilus sucks, even after i umount, then close a nautilus windows, then re-mount, it still doesnt pick up changes and cannot write/delete. but i can delete via terminal now after modding fstab and remounting
[05:58] <bluebaron[4]> enclaved
[05:58] <bluebaron[4]> is not here
[05:58] <bazhang> bluebaron[4], ubuntu support question?
[05:59] <bluebaron[4]> oh what the hell ... this isn't #r.trees
[06:00] <dijonyummy> ok let me guess. there was a diff between mounting ntfs vs ntfs-3g. but not anymore, same just aliases now
[06:02] <adurodea> coz_: ok now i don't even get a launch bar on the left side...definitly not impressive first display for a wm.
[06:02] <wildbat> dijonyummy, you mounted as default ~ so you can write to the FS with root only
[06:03] <SAM_theman> guampa: sup!
[06:03] <SAM_theman> guampa: any luck on vlc?
[06:03] <coz_> adurodea,  mm,,,  either restart x,,, or  in terminal   unity --reset & disown   or   in terminal    compiz --replace & disown
[06:03] <guampa> vlc ... vlc ..
[06:04] <guampa> are you sure you got the right person?
[06:04] <kitty_> hi coz_,
[06:05] <grappr> no
[06:05] <grappr> i won't take your abuse
[06:05] <bazhang> grappr, wrong channel
[06:05] <coz_> kitty_,   hey
[06:05] <dijonyummy> docs say default means all have rw access
[06:06] <praveen_> help me in Quickly --- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1784687
[06:06] <bazhang> praveen_, with what. give us a synopsis of the issue
[06:06] <andrewS> wow... so here i was thinking dns servers were just a gigantic hosts file with two columns sitting on a hard drive... only to find this book on dns alone is 674 pages.
[06:06] <andrewS> WHY IS THE INTERNET COMPLICATED?
[06:06] <guampa> ...
[06:07] <andrewS> i demand answers, ubuntians
[06:07] <bazhang> andrewS, lose the caps. also not related to ubuntu
[06:07] <codinGenesis> how to open music files from terminal ??
[06:07] <praveen_> bazhang, i have given link where i have posted my problem..
[06:07] <tensorpudding> !ot | andrewS
[06:07] <bazhang> codinGenesis, mplayer file.mp3
[06:07] <andrewS> comedy is always appropriate to any channel
[06:07] <codinGenesis> infact how to open various other files and documnets  in terminal
[06:07] <grappr> i'm using linux mint, it's far better than ubuntu
[06:07] <grappr> i remember when i used to use ubuntu
[06:07] <grappr> before i discovered linux mint
[06:07] <codinGenesis> bazhang: :)
[06:07] <tensorpudding> !mint | grappr
[06:08] <dijonyummy> wildbat: ok i see thanks for clarification
[06:09] <magn3ts> If were going to get a SSD for my system but am going to keep my data on a separate spinning drive or a NAS... how big of a SSD would you guys recommend
[06:10] <IdleOne> magn3ts: the largest you can afford. ##hardware if you want more info on what brand is good
[06:10] <tensorpudding> big enough for what you want to put on it, and no bigger
[06:10] <codinGenesis> bazhang,   i unable to play , i wrote mplayer my_music_file.mp3
[06:10] <IdleOne> codinGenesis: aplay filename.mp3
[06:11] <IdleOne> codinGenesis: aplay accepts multiple files names see: man aplay
[06:11] <adurodea> uhm 10-15GB dpeending on what apps you plan on adding afterwords
[06:11] <tensorpudding> they don't usually sell many really small SSD's
[06:12] <codinGenesis> IdleOne: :)
[06:12] <dijonyummy> i noticed something weird with audio. in windows, if i plug in headset to output jack, audio goes to headset only. but in ubuntu now, it still goes to both headset AND the speaker. whoa, how to fix this?
[06:12] <dijonyummy> i dont want it to go to speaker if plug in the headset
[06:13] <magn3ts> IdleOne, I'll drop in, I kinda have my mind set on the X-25 right now based on failure rate stats.
[06:17] <praveen_> when i am trying to run Quickly..i am greeted with lots of errors..earlier it was running fine but now it's not, here are my errors- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1784687
[06:19] <bazhang> praveen_, building new apps with quickly?
[06:19] <praveen_> bazhang, yes sir
[06:23] <phong_> hi guys, how to set compiz ?
[06:24] <pksadiq> !ccsm | phong_
[06:26] <bazhang> praveen_, not had any experience with quickly, perhaps #ubuntu-packaging can help
[06:26] <praveen_> thanks for your time...
[06:27] <Gracenotes> hi. I'm having a problem getting totem/gstreamer video working on 64-bit natty, in particular MPEG-4-encoded streams (audio works). The video area is blank :x
[06:27] <coz_> Gracenotes,  do you have all of the codecs installed?
[06:28] <coz_> Gracenotes,   sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:28] <Gracenotes> yeah
[06:28] <Gracenotes> that's an option on livecd install now, right?
[06:28] <Gracenotes> checked the box for that.
[06:28] <coz_> Gracenotes,  maybe  I dont use the live cd
[06:28] <Gracenotes> hmm never mind, I must have installed a subset. let me see, thanks :)
[06:31] <Gracenotes> ah, no such luck
[06:31] <Gracenotes> even after it installed the bad and ugly codec plugins
[06:31] <coz_> Gracenotes,  did you try either   banshee  or vlc?
[06:31] <doomfinger> when you set up a socks proxy through networking does it count for everything, or just the apps that support socks, or just firefox?
[06:32] <pksadiq> Gracenotes: the media may be damaged, try vlc
[06:32] <coz_> Gracenotes,  if you try vlc  I suggest opening synaptic package manager ..hit Search  type in vlc and install all of the vlc  packages
[06:32] <adurodea> Gracenotes: if you're using totem you might need gecko-mediaplayer (it lets the video play in firefox/chromium i think)
[06:32] <coz_> Gracenotes,  or sudo apt-get install  vlc*    <, I think that will work
[06:33] <Gracenotes> nope, media is okay, and won't play any video at all
[06:33] <Gracenotes> I have a feeling it's not a codec problem
[06:33] <Gracenotes> just the audio stream is going through
[06:33] <adurodea> what plugin are you using to play the video in the browser?
[06:34] <Gracenotes> totem is nice because it partially indexes partially downloaded files
[06:34] <Jon____> hey can anyone tell me where to go for help with ubuntu server internet setup?
[06:34] <Gracenotes> it's not in the browser, they're AVIs I downloaded which contain MPEG-4-encoded video and MPEG 1 audio
[06:34] <adurodea> Jon____: /etc/networking/interfaces
[06:34] <bazhang> Jon____, #ubuntu-server or here
[06:34] <adurodea> or /etc/network/interfaces
[06:34] <adurodea> something like that
[06:35] <Jon____> haha im on a university network
[06:35] <bazhang> adurodea, I think he means the channel
[06:35] <Jon____> and i think its messing with the connection
[06:35] <bazhang> Gracenotes, use handbrake to convert
[06:35] <adurodea> bazhang: oh oops sorry.
[06:35] <punty> hi
[06:35] <punty> wats up going on
[06:36] <Gracenotes> vlc and banshee are similarly blank. mplayer works, but it doesn't allow seeking in partially downloaded files, making it much worse than totem for me.
[06:36] <bazhang> punty, ubuntu support
[06:36] <punty> yes
[06:36] <Gracenotes> it may be a video card problem
[06:36] <Gracenotes> the files are just fine
[06:37] <Gracenotes> I haven't had this problem before and I'm guessing it's due to some 64bit hiccup somewhere
[06:37] <Jon____> so anyone know about common dhcp errors?
[06:37] <Gracenotes> since I've previously only used 32bit ubuntu and installed it in lots of different places :/
[06:38] <coz_> Jon____,  if no one here knows , you can also try the ##linux channel
[06:38] <pksadiq> !players | Gracenotes I think xine is good :
[06:38] <Jon____> kk thanks
[06:38] <tensorpudding> juk's still around?
[06:38] <santhosh_keesara> hi punty
[06:39] <adurodea> Jon____: what's the dhcp error and are you using dhclient or dhcpcd?
[06:39] <Jon____> haha over my head
[06:39] <Gracenotes> mm, I'll install it and see if it works okay
[06:39] <Jon____> im on the norhtwestern network
[06:39] <Jon____> used auto config
[06:39] <Jon____> tried to ping googe... didnt work
[06:39] <Gracenotes> otherwise I'll look at common dependencies between totem, vlc, and xine and see if I can blame anything
[06:41] <santhosh_keesara> hi ppppppppuuuuunnn
[06:41] <adurodea> Jon____: go to a terminal and type ifconfig eth0 down;ifconfig eth0 up;dhclient eth0 does it give any errors?
[06:41] <Gracenotes> :| still no video
[06:41] <Gracenotes> wat
[06:41] <Jon____> not any visible ones
[06:41] <Jon____> i have an ip
[06:41] <Krishnandu> Hi, can you please suggest something like Hyper Terminal in windows??
[06:41] <adurodea> Jon____: can you ping your gateway
[06:42] <adurodea> Jon____: in channel please sir.
[06:42] <Jon____> hah sorry
[06:42] <Jon____> how do u ping the gateway
[06:43] <pksadiq> Krishnandu: what does hyper terminal do in windows?
[06:43] <adurodea> Jon____: type route it'll tell you what your gateway is
[06:43] <Krishnandu> pksadiq, Well, accept TCP connection on a port and if any data is sent it's get showed
[06:43] <Krishnandu> somewhat like telnet...
[06:43] <Jon____> just shows a star
[06:43] <Gracenotes> it's odd to not have video working out of the box. lemme check if any apt upgrades will help...?
[06:43] <Jon____> for my ip
[06:43] <adurodea> pksadiq: it's a ppp / telnet client
[06:44] <pksadiq> adurodea: ok
[06:44] <pksadiq> Krishnandu: telnet itself is available
[06:44] <Krishnandu> pksadiq, minicom would have been fine, but alas it only accepts serial port
[06:44] <adurodea> Krishnandu: netstat would work
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Gracenotes: if its nvidia based you may need to blacklist the nouveau driver
[06:44] <Krishnandu> pksadiq, no I dont want telnet
[06:45] <Gracenotes> it definitely is nvidia
[06:45] <pksadiq> Krishnandu: or I think you need tcpdump   just shows all the packet in and out
[06:45] <Krishnandu> adurodea, pksadiq Lemme define what I'm trying to do...I've a device, and I'm sending some data to the IP of my linux pc, now I want to see what data is coming
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Gracenotes: add the bootoption: nouveau.blacklist=1
[06:46] <Krishnandu> pksadiq, Ya I tried tcpdump, that's right, it shows the packet info, but I want the data too...
[06:46] <adurodea> Krishnandu: wireshark?
[06:46] <Jon____> member:adurodea: there is a defualt and one for my ip. cant ping either
[06:46] <pksadiq> Krishnandu: tcpdump -vvv              does, I think
[06:46] <qin> Krishnandu: ngrep, or wireshark
[06:46] <Krishnandu> adurodea, Say from the device I send "Hi", that program should display that message "Hi" from the device IP
[06:46] <adurodea> Jon____: route add default gw <yourgatewayip>
[06:46] <Krishnandu> qin, Thanks, lemme try...
[06:47] <adurodea> Krishnandu: yes wireshark would say hi assuming you sent the data in plain text
[06:47] <Gracenotes> ActionParsnip: okay, lemme see how that goes, thanks
[06:47] <Krishnandu> adurodea, yeah, plain text
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Gracenotes: np man. When you get the proprietary driver in you will be ok
[06:47] <Jon____> adurodea: is it supposed to be mostly letters?
[06:48] <Jon____> adurodea: also SIOCADDRT operation not permitted
[06:48] <Gracenotes> bootoptions.. reminds me of fun times with xorg.conf
[06:48] <adurodea> Jon____: no do yo uhave a default route gateway? can you ping that one? should be an ip
[06:48] <thrillERboy> Hi, I want to reduce font size in CLI only mode, ie. ctrl+alt+f2 mode, how to do it?
[06:48] <adurodea> Jon____: sudo and do it
[06:49] <santhosh_keesara> where r u masn
[06:49] <Jon____> adurodea: yea i have a default, but it displays letters under the gateway and a * for my ip
[06:49] <santhosh_keesara> im in ubuntu where r u?
[06:50] <adurodea> Jon____: ok nslookup <lettersforgateway> to get the ip and/or try pinging it with the letters
[06:51] <bazhang> !ot | santhosh_keesara
[06:51] <thrillERboy> How do I run the previous command I typed with sudo? Like reallly lazy way.
[06:51] <Gracenotes> hm, haven't done this with grub2 yet. *reads*
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> thrillERboy: use up cursor, press Home then type sudo
[06:52] <pksadiq> thrillERboy: the very previous can be done by CTRL+R  sudo            and it will show
[06:52] <qin> Why /tmp would be able to fiil
[06:52] <Jon____> adurodea: pinged the default... no response
[06:53] <qin> Why /tmp would be able to fill (7.5 Gb) within 4 month, only skype/browser/movies use?
[06:53] <thrillERboy> Thanks, I was hoping for a way, where I don't have to type sudo :D
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Gracenotes: hold shift at boot, press E to (e)dit the kernel. Delete quiet splash and add blacklist.nouveau=1 in its place. Enter to continue
[06:54] <din> thrillERboy: !?sudo?
[06:54] <thrillERboy> thats 3 more letters than I like to type :D
[06:54] <Gracenotes> ah. not so different from before... guess doing it while logged in is more trouble than it's worth
[06:55] <Mandrew> hello
[06:55] <BeetrootDog> Does anyone here use "Connect to server..." from gnome to access servers via SSH (sftp)?
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Qin: flash stuff. Temp files. Logs. /tmp is on tmpfs so a reboot will kick it down as well as load your newest kernel
[06:56] <thrillERboy> thanks din that brings back last sudo command I typed.. :) But, my scenario is like I type "airmon-ng wlan0" Terminal say: Run it as root. I want to run "sudo airmon-ng wlan0", Since, I do this so often, I thought there might be some shortcut to run the previous command with super user privilages.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> BeetrootDog: used to in my Gnome days
[06:57] <Mandrew> anyone that know what the universall bar in unity is called and how i install it in classic ubuntu or in xubuntu?
[06:57] <din> thrillERboy: to run last command as sudo run: sudo !!
[06:57] <bazhang> Mandrew, the left side dock?
[06:57] <qin> ActionParsnip: Just manually rm all /tmp, wonder why it did not "clean" itself.
[06:57] <Mandrew> on the top of the screen
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: use unity2D
[06:57] <bazhang> Mandrew, you cannot
[06:57] <bullgard4_> Natty obtains the boot message: "* Starting automatic crash report generation [fail]". How can I correct this to: " Starting automatic crash report generation [OK]"?
[06:58] <din> thrillERboy: or if you already ran it as sudo just: !!
[06:58] <Mandrew> bazhang its not possible to install in classic ubuntu?
[06:58] <BeetrootDog> ActionParsnip: not in Ubuntu 11.04?
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Qin: I'm sure there is a way. I reboot enough to keep it low
[06:58] <din> thrillERboy: also, !?<string>? runs last command containing <string>
[06:58] <bazhang> Mandrew, the mouse over reveal menu? from unity? no
[06:59] <din> so !?airmon?
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> BeetrootDog: no I've used LXDE since Lucid
[06:59] <thrillERboy> thanks din.. exactly what I was looking for :)
[06:59] <Jon____> can anyone help me connect to my gateway?
[06:59] <thrillERboy> will set an alias for that, sudo !! is too much typing :D
[06:59] <qin> ActionParsnip: That machine, one user, reboots at least twice a day.
[07:00] <adurodea> bullgard4_: what's it fail with?
[07:00] <Mandrew> bazhang im not thinking of the unity "dock" im thinking of the bar/ list on the top of the screen. in the pinguyOS they have it too
[07:00] <din> thrillERboy: yw
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: if you install unity2D it will run no matter what video chip and config you have
[07:00] <dageriv> I am having problems burning an iso to a DVD. How can i check if i really do have a dvd burner
[07:01] <adurodea> dageriv: look at the front of the drive
[07:01] <bullgard4_> adurodea: I do not understand your English well. This message appears at every computer restart or thawing.
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Qin: and you say it has 4 months of junk?
[07:02] <qin> ActionParsnip: Yes.  Just been given box to "repair it"
[07:02] <Jon____> adurodea: can't connect to gateway... what next?
[07:02] <Mandrew> ActionParsnip im not thinking of the unity "dock" im thinking of the bar/ list on the top of the screen. in the pinguyOS they have it too
[07:02] <Gracenotes> ActionParsnip: hmmm no such luck
[07:02] <Gracenotes> er wait I didn't get the syntax quite right.
[07:02] <bazhang> Mandrew, then no
[07:02] <Gracenotes> attempt 2
[07:03] <Mandrew> bazhang ok thanks
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Qin: close as many apps as possible. Install bleachbit and run it as root. Avoid commands saying they will take a long time and watch app settings or it will remove stuff you want
[07:04] <aju> Hai all, How can install .dmg file in my ubuntu 10.04
[07:04] <bazhang> aju, you cannot
[07:04] <bazhang> aju, thats an osx installer. whats the package
[07:05] <adurodea> Jon____: use a static ip ?
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Gracenotes: if you websearch: black screen boot ubuntu   you will see a link to the ubuntugeek site, explains it well
[07:05] <aju> How can i install a usb stick modem of vodafone in my ubuntu 10.04
[07:06] <bazhang> aju, its the vodaphone software?
[07:06] <Jon____> adurodea: the univeristy probably wont allow me, but I can try. Thanks
[07:06] <aju> bayup
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Aju: plug it in and run: lsusb    one line will identify the device. Use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[07:07] <aju> bazhang, its is a software for installing usb stick of vodafone
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: do you mean globalmenu?
[07:08] <Jasonn> I want to update my server from 10.04 to 10.10, how do I do that
[07:08] <Jasonn> ?
[07:08] <Mandrew> ActionParsnip yes :D
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | jasonn
[07:09] <Jasonn> at_11691: I dont have the physical server though, its a vps
[07:09] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: ^^
[07:10] <Jasonn> nvm got it
[07:10] <Mandrew> ActionParsnip do you know if i can install globalmenu in ubuntu classic and/ or xubuntu
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: there is a file to edit so that it stops expecting LTS. Lucid server is supported til long after even natty dies
[07:10] <dageriv> !paste
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: sure, just add it to the panel like anything else.
[07:11] <dijonyummy> whats your favorite graphical ftp client for linux. i used to use filezilla for windows
[07:11] <bazhang> Indicator Applet App Menu Mandrew
[07:11] <Jasonn> dijonyummy: FileZilla for linuz
[07:12] <Jasonn> linux*
[07:12] <bullgard4_> Natty obtains the boot message: "* Starting automatic crash report generation [fail]". How can I correct this to: " Starting automatic crash report generation [OK]"?
[07:12] <dageriv> No matter which DVD burning program i use, i get errors. Here's an example from braser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/628697/  can anyone of you see what is causing the error?
[07:12] <Mandrew> ActionParsnip is it in the "software store" in ubuntu?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> dijonyummy: there is filezilla in the official repos too..
[07:12] <dijonyummy> haha oh i see!
[07:12] <dijonyummy> sorry
[07:12] <rgenito_> hello everyone
[07:12] <yung_son> Even though the hardware is being picked up by the O.S. i still cant hear anything from my speakers :/
[07:12] <Mandrew> AktionParsnip and bazhang thanks for the help
[07:12] <rgenito_> does anyone here use an ATI Radeon 6870 with ubuntu 11.04 ?
[07:13] <rgenito_> apparently ubuntu 11 has issues with the 6870
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Mandres: worth a look, if not I'm sure there will be guides around
[07:13] <Gracenotes> ActionParsnip: video screen seems black still with blacklist.nouveau=1 ... and audio still works
[07:13] <bazhang> indicator-applet-appmenu Mandrew
[07:13] <Gracenotes> eh. shrug.
[07:14] <Mandrew> bazhang ok
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Gracenotes: blacklist nv too
[07:14] <Mandrew> going for a reboot now c ya all later
[07:14] <Gracenotes> will try. these drivers, I tell you
[07:15] <yung_son> rgenito, i use the ati radeon 6570 and it works great
[07:15] <yung_son> Anyone know why i cant hear anything throogh my speakers, even though it picks up the hardware?
[07:19] <dageriv> I only have 500MB left in my /root, could this cause problems if I try to burn a CD/DVD?
[07:24] <adurodea> dageriv: is /tmp on the same partition as /root?
[07:24] <bullgard4_> dageriv: Do you plan tu burn an audio cd or a data cd?
[07:24] <bullgard4_> s/tu/to/
[07:27] <ILGM> anyone around for a quick question ?
[07:28] <wildbat> ILGM: nope ~ XD you see anyone on?XD
[07:28] <anonboo> !anyone | ILGM
[07:29] <Gracenotes> :| whatever the cause is, 64bit video in ubuntu on my laptop is irreparably broken, lol
[07:29] <ILGM> ahh , well its late here, and most arent on
[07:29] <ILGM> sudo ln -sf /opt/metasploit3/msf3/msf* /usr/local/bin/
[07:29] <Poindexter> Why                 is my fonttttttttttttts repeeeeeeeeeeeeeeating ?
[07:29] <Gracenotes> that's enough trying from me. thanks everyone who helped.
[07:29] <royale1223> http://www.onbux.com/?rh=f71d4b195114b2683602d489e6e084d6
[07:29] <ILGM> should make a sym link of all the msf* in dir
[07:30] <ILGM> but it makes a sym link to msf*
[07:30] <ILGM> instead of all the files with msf in them
[07:31] <scottj> is there an easy cmd to tell if shell is local or connected over ssh?
[07:31] <royale1223> scottj: just look at hostname
[07:32] <Jordan_U> ILGM: What is the output of "echo /opt/metasploit3/msf3/msf*" ?
[07:32] <scottj> royale1223: not good enough
[07:33] <adurodea> scottj: ps?
[07:33] <ILGM> Jordan_U: /opt/metasploit3/msf3/msf*
[07:33] <royale1223> scottj: why dont you try telling what you are trying to accomplish?
[07:33] <scottj> royale1223: I want my path to only show hostname if shell is being run over ssh
[07:33] <ILGM> Jordan_U:so im gonna have to link each one myself ?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> ILGM: Then there are no files matching that glob (or at least none that can be read by your current user).
[07:33] <scottj> s/path/prompt
[07:33] <ILGM> hrm
[07:34] <royale1223> !PS1 | scottj
[07:34] <scottj> huh?
[07:35] <royale1223> scottj: edit "export PS1 whatever " in ~/.bashrc
[07:35] <ILGM> Jordan_U: but i installed it, chownd it to root and sudo when i symlinked it should link the files
[07:35] <scottj> royale1223: yeah, I know that much, I'm trying to figure out a command or variable to determine if the shell is being run inside ssh
[07:35] <scottj> so that I can add the necessary stuff to ps1 or whatever
[07:36] <royale1223> you want to determine hostname?
[07:36] <scottj> royale1223: nope, I want to determine if shell is being run over ssh. I don't know maybe shell doesn't have this info
[07:37] <royale1223> royale1223: I'm outa ideas. Sorry
[07:38] <ILGM> hrm
[07:38] <royale1223> scottj: You could use "w" or "who" command output. When you connect over ssh, they'll show your source IP.
[07:39] <magn3ts_> Dudes, why is Ubuntu asking me to unlock my keyring three times when i login?
[07:39] <anonboo> scottj, You can also change your local bash color, so you'll know when you're in your machine or ssh.
[07:39] <royale1223> scottj: http://serverfault.com/questions/187712/how-to-determine-if-im-logged-in-via-ssh
[07:43] <anonboo> magn3ts_, http://superuser.com/questions/43132/enter-password-for-default-keyring-to-unlock
[07:44] <bullgard4_> Natty prints the boot message: "* Starting automatic crash report generation [fail]". How can I correct this to: "* Starting automatic crash report generation [OK]"?
[07:45] <scottj> thanks guys, $SSH_TTY looks pretty good
[07:45] <reliablenerd> is there a separate channel for Ubuntu Server?  I'm looking for some help with ISPConfig in the end.. specifically customizing error 404 (i can customize all other errors except that one, it was blank originally, and changes I make to it do not apply)
[07:45] <bazhang> bullgard4_, file a bug against apport
[07:45] <bazhang> reliablenerd, #ubuntu-server
[07:45] <bullgard4_> bazhang: hm
[07:46] <reliablenerd> bazhang, thanks
[07:48] <Guest69365> #home
[07:49] <bullgard4_> bazhang: Directing  to the package linux-image-2.6.8-generic?
[07:50] <bazhang> bullgard4_, the automatic crash generator has a bug, its called apport
[07:52] <anonboo> Where can I find some libface support?
[07:52] <bazhang> anonboo, to do what
[07:54] <anonboo> bazhang, I'm looking for integration with linux packages, more specifically to be able to run a search from a known image against a database.
[07:55] <Dia> hi
[07:55] <Dia> I just got a new netbook running win7 64bit
[07:55] <Dia> i want to dual it with ubuntu netbook ed
[07:55] <bazhang> Dia, there is not a une anymore
[07:56] <bazhang> !une | Dia
[07:56] <Dia> and cut a third partition for shared data (songs, pics, files etc)
[07:56] <Dia> i want to DL 10.04
[07:56] <Dia> i really hate unity >_<
[07:56] <bazhang> Dia, make it ntfs then
[07:56] <bullgard4_> bazhang: Do you mean that I should run the command '~$ ubuntu-bug apport'?
[07:56] <bazhang> Dia, use classic then
[07:56] <bazhang> bullgard4_, yes
[07:56] <bazhang> !classic | Dia
[07:56] <bullgard4_> bazhang: Thank you.
[07:56] <Dia> 10.04 is still supported, no?
[07:57] <bazhang> Dia, sure it is
[07:57] <bullgard4_> Dia yes.
[07:57] <Dia> classic (on my big comp) still won't do what my 10.04 did
[07:57] <bazhang> Dia, until 12.04 for desktop
[07:57] <Dia> so i actually had to downgrade it back
[07:57] <bazhang> err beyond that, sorry
[07:57] <extraclassic> i thought that 12.04 will be LTS, but 10.04 will be supported until 13.04
[07:57] <Dia> anyway, what I wanted to know is how much space I should give each of the partitions (64bit Win7, Ubuntu, dataa)
[07:58] <bazhang> extraclassic, yep my mistake
[07:58]  * Dia hopes unity goes away -_-; Cube FTW >_>
[07:58] <Dia> the netbook has 320 gig
[07:59] <bazhang> 40-60 for win, ubuntu 60, the rest for shared
[07:59] <adurodea> Dia: up to you
[07:59] <royale1223> Dia: I would say 30,40,270
[07:59]  * Dia worried too small a partition will hinder the windows
[07:59] <adurodea> Dia: i use 10GB for / and the rest for /home
[08:00] <Dia> i've never subdevided it like that
[08:00] <adurodea> minus a swap partition but i don't count that
[08:00] <royale1223> Dia: better if you could setup a seperate home partition
[08:00] <Dia> just win part, data, / and a gig for swap
[08:01] <extraclassic> i was reading this earlier about partitions: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch3.en.html#s3.2
[08:01] <Dia> royal; what's the advantage?
[08:01] <Dia> if i have a data partition that is
[08:02] <adurodea> royale1223: then you only need like 10GB and include /home in / and mount your data partition somewhere
[08:02] <adurodea> sorry that was for dia
[08:02] <royale1223> Dia: I made my data partition /home.
[08:02] <Dia> ah
[08:02] <royale1223> I like it that way.
[08:02] <royale1223> Easy to arrange things
[08:02] <Dia> but then it'd not be useable by my win part
[08:03] <Dia> so 60gigs each should be plenty for each OS?
[08:05] <codinGenesis> which is the best transmission client for ubuntu
[08:05] <Furai`> Hello!
[08:05] <codinGenesis> in every client i have used so far some files are
[08:05] <Dia> ugh, i think i already screwed up -_-;
[08:06] <royale1223> Dia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/628704/
[08:06] <royale1223> This is what I did
[08:06] <codinGenesis> aren't donloading in the speed which they might have inspite of having adeqaute amount of seeds..
[08:07] <Dia> the 'shrink volume' took won't let me cut more than half of the drive due to some file -_-;
[08:07] <codinGenesis> best transmission client for ubuntu
[08:08] <bullgard4_> bazhang: I learned that 5 other people already reported this bug to Launchpad. I added me as a subscriber.
[08:08] <bazhang> bullgard4_, ok
[08:08] <bazhang> codinGenesis, you mean bittorrent client
[08:08] <royale1223> codinGenesis: using transmission?
[08:09] <Syria> !restpanel
[08:09] <bazhang> !resetpanels | Syria
[08:09] <Syria> bazhang:  Thank you.
[08:11] <codinGenesis> best transmission client for ubuntu ??
[08:11] <karrot2> you mean bittorent client?
[08:11] <dr_willis> use what one you perfer.. with the features you want.
[08:11] <dr_willis> none are 'best' :)
[08:12] <karrot2> i would argue all are best
[08:12] <dr_willis> !best
[08:12]  * royale1223 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[08:13] <codinGenesis> dr_willis: which is the best transmission client for ubuntu ???
[08:13] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  you did not listen to a thing we said did you...
[08:14] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  theres a great many bittorrent clients. transmission is the default. It has a decent f3eatureset. If you like transmission, then use it.
[08:14] <codinGenesis> sorry :(
[08:14] <dr_willis> theres proberly a dozen others in the package manager tools..
[08:14] <r_avalon> i put in my vote for transmission.
[08:14] <dr_willis> it all depends on your needs.
[08:14] <r_avalon> it gets the job done, no muss, no fuss.
[08:14] <theadmin> codinGenesis: Others that are worth a shot: Deluge, Tixati (not in the repos), qbittorrent
[08:14] <royale1223> Transmission is pretty fast
[08:15] <karrot2> transmission has a pretty awesome webgui
[08:15] <karrot2> easy config file
[08:15] <dr_willis> transmission has made up for its past failings.. so works decently well for me.
[08:15] <royale1223> karrot2: indicator too
[08:15] <IAmError> When I was installing the KDE desktop it asked me to pick either gdm or kdm. What are those?
[08:15] <dr_willis> IAmError,  the initial login screen.
[08:15] <theadmin> IAmError: The login managers
[08:15] <karrot2> royale1223: don't know what an indicator is
[08:15] <theadmin> IAmError: Use gdm
[08:15] <dr_willis> IAmError,  you can easially cahnge them back with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'
[08:16] <royale1223> karrot2: small icons in your panel
[08:16] <codinGenesis> but some torrent files are not downloading in transmission, Dluge or ktorrent, similar file get downloaded seamlessly in windows in utorrent
[08:16] <IAmError> theadmin & dr_willis: Ah okay. Thanks :D
[08:16] <karrot2> how do I make irssi ignore people entering and leaving the chat room?
[08:16] <theadmin> codinGenesis: There is a Linux version of utorrent you know
[08:16] <adurodea> karrot2: /ignore
[08:16] <theadmin> karrot2: /ignore * JOINS QUITS PARTS
[08:16] <codinGenesis> theadmin: no i think i should look about now...
[08:16] <dr_willis> karrot2,  the irssi docs/faq mentuion that  :) You may want to check them out.  theres a LOT of features that are easially overlooked in text based irc clients.
[08:17] <karrot2> theadmin: thanks
[08:17] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  the torrent client shouldent matter..  there is a port of utorrent for linux also. if you really want utorrent
[08:17] <karrot2> I'm looking through the irssi junk now, just wanted that off
[08:17] <dr_willis> I perfer weechat to irssi. :) but try them all out
[08:18] <theadmin> utorrent officially has no GUI, only a web-ui however
[08:18] <theadmin> Just a note, codinGenesis
[08:18] <jimmie> theadmin: That has no GUI
[08:18] <codinGenesis> dr_willis, i need utorrent badly in ubuntu !! It's like ubuntu incomplete without it...
[08:18] <royale1223> karrot2: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup
[08:18] <jimmie> Deluge is good, suits all my needs fine, give that a look if you havent already codinGenesis
[08:18] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  i dont even miss it.
[08:18] <danny> is there an ubuntu help channel or something?
[08:19] <dr_willis> theres a few neat features in utorrent3 - but  nothing i cant live without
[08:19] <danny> I don't really want to spam general chat w/ my problems
[08:19] <adurodea> danny: you're in it
[08:19] <codinGenesis> theadmin: can't get you..
[08:19] <theadmin> codinGenesis: I really suggest giving Tixati a shot, though -- and you can always find the Linux version of utorrent on their site
[08:19] <karrot2> royale1223: thanks
[08:19] <bazhang> danny, here
[08:19] <danny> oh, ok then
[08:19] <theadmin> danny: This is the help channel
[08:19] <theadmin> danny: General chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <danny> I'm trying to install drivers for the WG111v3 on ubuntu 10.04.2 32 bit
[08:19] <danny> I installed the .inf with ndiswrapper but it says hardware isn't present
[08:19] <danny> "Hardware present: No"
[08:19] <bazhang> danny, that a usb wifi dongle?
[08:19] <danny> yep
[08:20] <adurodea> codinGenesis: i like rtorrent...simple...fast...does everything (just mentioning it because nobody else has)
[08:20] <bazhang> whats the chipset danny
[08:20] <danny> um, lemme check
[08:20] <andrew_46> adurodea: Another rtorrent fan here :)
[08:20] <bazhang> lsusb
[08:20] <royale1223> codinGenesis: qBittorrent is very similar to uTorrent.
[08:20] <theadmin> Ah, rtorrent is good, but I don't like keeping a terminal or a tty hanging
[08:20] <danny> lsusb gives me this
[08:20] <dr_willis> theadmin,  thats what screen is good for. :)
[08:21] <danny> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 80ee:0021
[08:21] <danny> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[08:21] <bazhang> danny, pastebin
[08:21] <danny> oh, ok
[08:21] <jimmie> I honestly think you have to search around to find a torrent client youll like on ubuntu
[08:21] <codinGenesis> really think this channel is really nice place for info will definately give back in what ever ways i can..  :) :)
[08:21] <jimmie> Just give them all a wee try
[08:21] <karrot2> transmission's config file is just much easier than rtorrents
[08:22] <dr_willis> only feature i would like to see in transmission is automated grabbing of 'blocklists'
[08:22] <danny> result of lsusb:
[08:22] <danny> http://pastebin.com/DJYx9mLC
[08:22] <codinGenesis> dr_willis: will u help me in installing utorrent ??
[08:23] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  get it from the utorrent homepage.. read the docs.. its not to complex. it only has a WEB interface last i looked.
[08:23] <danny> bazhang, did you get that?
[08:23] <bazhang> danny, you have a webcam too? that does not seem to be the device in question
[08:23] <theadmin> dr_willis: Which is just as good as a gui
[08:24] <theadmin> dr_willis: Plus lets you run on text-only boxes
[08:24] <codinGenesis> dr_willis: i downloaded the file...
[08:26] <dr_willis> I just use my android phone to controll my torrent clients.
[08:26] <dr_willis> !info unp
[08:28] <royale1223> codinGenesis: http://utorrentideas.uservoice.com/forums/74853-torrent-server-for-linux-/suggestions/701286-make-a-utorrent-for-linux
[08:28] <codinGenesis> royale1223 : really useful info
[08:28] <codinGenesis> thanks
[08:32] <dr_willis> Hmm. some odd reason. My wallpaper in Unity is just a blank white page.. cant seem to cahnge it.
[08:32] <royale1223> codinGenesis: you are welcome
[08:33] <RawkitLawnchair> I have a NETGEAR MA521 card.. When I connected to a network it'd work.. then slow down to a halt.. disconnect.. all networks would still be listed except I can't connect to any of them. I was using a ndiswrapper driver. I took that off and it works without disconnecting, except I can't really do multiple things at once. I loaded a youtube video, it seemed to set that as it's highest priority.. and i lagged out of xchat.. an
[08:33] <RawkitLawnchair> d pages seem like it's loading slowly sometimesa
[08:33] <RawkitLawnchair> sometimes*
[08:34] <Silicium01> What's the main difference between symbolic and hard link? And which one should I use if I want to point a dir in home directory to some /etc dirs?
[08:36] <flyguy97> how can i use my mic input to play my mp3 player through my computer speakers?
[08:36] <dr_willis> Silicium01,  a symbolic link (aka soft link) is just a pointer to a file/location. a hard link basically IS the  file its pointing to. the os cant tell  the file has more then one name.
[08:36] <dr_willis> Silicium01,   when in doubt - use soft links.  hard links are usefull in some cases.
[08:36] <dr_willis> Im not sure if a hard link can point to a directory,.. cant say ive ever tried or needed to do it that way
[08:37] <Silicium01> dr_willis, would symbolic link download with rsync backup?
[08:37] <Silicium01> would it contain the contents or just link?
[08:38] <royale1223> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/utorrent-is-finally-available-for-linux.html
[08:38] <royale1223> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/utorrent-is-finally-available-for-linux.html
[08:39] <codinGenesis> still unable to install utorrent on ubuntu
[08:40] <codinGenesis> also tried wine for the windows version but no success
[08:40] <dr_willis> Silicium01,  Not sure. I wiuld imagine rsync would see its a link.
[08:40] <dr_willis> utorrent and wine has worked in the past for me also.
[08:40] <dr_willis> downlioad utorrent.exe   -> wine utorrent.exe
[08:41] <dr_willis> as for as insatlling the linux native version. I just recall downloading the archive. and extacting it.. then cd to the directory its made. and run the binary
[08:41] <theadmin> dr_willis: it depends on "libssl.so.0.9.8" which is somewhat out of date
[08:43] <dr_willis> ive not used it in ages. :)  i dont see utorrent having any must have features at this time.  Utorrent3 in windows - has some neat features. but it just seems to be getting more fluff tehse days
[08:43] <dr_willis> sounds like utorrent for linux - needs more love.
[08:44] <RocketLauncher> My Netgear MA521(Realtek RTL8180) scans and lists available networks.. but doesn't really connect. I can connect to my home wifi network.. it'll be pretty slow, loading a youtube video will make everything else lag and it'd eventually disconnect.. then for some reason it won't let me connect to any other network again.. What's going on here?
[08:44] <codinGenesis> got a wonderful guide hope it works....if yes then i will paste it over here..
[08:45] <RocketLauncher> I connected a MiniPCI 2200BG card in here.. it has a really low range, i can only connect to my own network.. which has a good connection and it's how i'm on here right now. I think it's something to do with the black and gray antenna cables.. if i get help with this, i wouldn't care about my other card
[08:49] <kinano> hey everyone,
[08:49] <feicun_> kinano: hi
[08:49] <kinano> feicun_: hi
[08:50] <kinano> i've got myself into a pickle with my ubuntu and now i cant get myself out of it
[08:50] <jjovereats> what sort of pickle
[08:50] <kinano> well, some time ago i installed "jolicloud" over ubuntu netbook
[08:51] <kinano> now software center doesnt run
[08:51] <kinano> and i get an "importerror: no module named jolicloud"
[08:51] <kinano> when i try to run it from terminal
[08:51] <maahes> !clone
[08:51] <maahes> grr
[08:51] <maahes> that's not working
[08:52] <IAmError> Whats the command to open the terminal on KDE? ctrl+alt+t isn't working.
[08:52] <jjovereats> konsole, I think.
[08:53] <dr_willis> kinano,  mixxing up disrots like that. is not a good idea. I think you may be needing to restort to a reinstall.
[08:53] <dr_willis> kinano,  jolicloud does a lot of very weird things  in  ways that are going to be hard to 'fix'
[08:53] <kinano> dr_willis: i can see that
[08:54] <kinano> how can i restore my ubuntu installation
[08:54] <xgt001> hello everyone, i am having problems with my bluetooth, like i can pair my device and use all services like (gprs, file transfer ) in natty , but i want to stick with maverick, but in maverick the device just wont even pair ... is there a way to solve it?
[08:54] <kinano> without losing
[08:54] <dr_willis> I like and used JoliOS for a while.. but it eventually became more trouble then it was worth.
[08:54] <dr_willis> kinano,  backup your imporntant data. reinstall.. the only way to be 'sure'
[08:54] <VxQe> Hmm
[08:54] <kinano> dr_willis: i see! is there no "repair" option?! :P
[08:54] <VxQe> my install of ubuntu server isn't picking up my e1000 intel nic even though it has the module etc. :/
[08:55] <VxQe> Doesn't seem to be picking up any nic's.
[08:55] <Chilaquiles> hello, does somebody know if it's possible to install another operating system in another hard drive?
[08:55] <Shown> i bought a low cost vps with ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS. i would like to install a minimal desktop environment in order to make mIRC run with Wine. What can I do? I followed few tutorials but all installed incomplete software. This is the log when i tried running startx: http://pastebin.com/tZd3DRR7
[08:55] <KDEV_> i have install ubuntu 11.04 on vmware and try to install vmware tools ........but i m stuck ... (What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel ?)  please help
[08:55] <xgt001> and to add i tried "sdptool browse " from terminal it gives me "connection reset by peer" in maverick
[08:56] <Chilaquiles> I installed debian in a computer where I have ubuntu but it seems like my GRUB got screwed.
[08:56] <runvnc> so I thought I was just messing with my config and restarting to get my wiresless usb to work on my wubi install, but now somehow I don't seem to have any /ubuntu/disks folder.  am I fucked?
[08:56] <Chilaquiles> Can somebody help me to fix it?
[08:56] <bazhang> runvnc, no cursing
[08:56] <runvnc> sorry
[08:56] <xgt001> Chilaquiles: the grub of debian has overwritten the grub of ubuntu...
[08:56] <bazhang> !grub2 | Chilaquiles please have a read
[08:57] <runvnc> should I be worried that my wubi install has no /ubuntu/disks folder and I only seem to be able to boot to sh:grub
[08:57] <KDEV_> i have install ubuntu 11.04 on vmware and try to install vmware tools ........but i m stuck ... (What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel ?)  please help
[08:57] <Chilaquiles> xgt001: It's possible to overwritten the grub from debian with the grub of ubuntu again?
[08:58] <xgt001> Chilaquiles: ideally u should have installed debian first and then ubuntu, coz grub of Ubuntu is newer, so it will add debian in boot list automatically
[08:58] <KDEV_> any help
[08:59] <Chilaquiles> xgt001: my ubuntu version is 10.10
[08:59] <codinGenesis> utorrent is really diffucult to get installed on linux right now... Hope it gets ready and bug free very soon..
[08:59] <xgt001> KDEV_: just a suggestion, try virtual box instead of vmware
[08:59] <anonboo> codinGenesis, There are many torrent alternatives.
[08:59] <Chilaquiles> xgt001: but I already have my programs and everything in Ubuntu, I don't want to reinstall it back again
[08:59] <VxQe> That aren't owned by the movie industry no less.
[08:59] <VxQe> ~_~
[08:59] <xgt001> Chilaquiles: ok now u should reinstall only the grub2 from the 10.10 live cd :)
[09:00] <anonboo> haha VxQe
[09:00] <Chilaquiles> xgt001: Could you help me to do that?
[09:00] <Chilaquiles> xgt001: cuz I've tried many methods already
[09:00] <KDEV_> thx, i love virtual box  but ...i can't sleep without sort out the problem
[09:00] <runvnc> I am pretty sure my entire system is gone since as far as I know wubi keeps the filesystems in /ubuntu/disks right? and if I have no /ubuntu/disks, thats it?
[09:01] <VxQe> KDEV, you need the kernel headers installed...
[09:01] <VxQe> I am not sure what the package you need is though
[09:01] <VxQe> probably kernel-source?
[09:01] <VxQe> I only know how to install vmware tools on redhat, sorry. :)
[09:01] <xgt001> Chilaquiles: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 may be this would help
[09:02] <KDEV_> ok..
[09:02] <KDEV_> thx
[09:03] <Chilaquiles> xgt001: when I type sudo grub it says command not found
[09:03] <xgt001> Chilaquiles: are u in live cd environment?
[09:03] <Chilaquiles> yep
[09:03] <VxQe> So looking through the logs, I can clearly see that it is loading the right driver and designating the nic as eth0... but if I try for instance eth0 up I just get no such device.
[09:03] <VxQe> :/
[09:03] <coz_> Chilaquiles,  gksudo  /etc/default/grub
[09:03] <coz_> I believe
[09:04] <hexacode> hey you guys...i was looking into pipes and it says takes output of one program and makes it the standard input of another program....lets say i write the program that is receiving the piped info, how would i go about accessing this data in the program and doing something with it? lets use c++ for this example plz
[09:05] <murlidhar> the sound in my natty has decreased a lot after i updated some recent apps from update manager! at full sound it is barely audible and the screen dims down while booting!
[09:05] <Chilaquiles> I tiped that coz_ but nothing happened
[09:05] <EastDallas> Is there still no GUI for configuring Samba in Natty?
[09:05] <xgt001> Chilaquiles: http://duopetalflower.blogspot.com/2010/11/reinstalling-grub-after-installing.html give it a shot
[09:05] <coz_> Chilaquiles,  it should  try   sudo gedit  /etc/default/grub
[09:05] <codinGenesis> anonboo: can u name some ??
[09:05] <dr_willis> EastDallas,  theres swat, and ebox i belive.. but ive rarely needed a gui to configure samba.
[09:06] <dr_willis> EastDallas,  used tobe a few other gui's for samba - ive tested in the past.. but most were lacking in ways
[09:06] <murlidhar> interestingly my maverick's sound is pretty loud which i haven't yet uninstalled it.
[09:06] <codinGenesis> I think Tixati is almost similar to utorrent in GUI terms and worth giving it a shot
[09:06] <VxQe> Mmm samba is easiest with the conf files.
[09:06] <EastDallas> dr_willis: I don't either, but someone like my mom does
[09:07] <dr_willis> Most 'users' will just bne right clicking on a folder and selecting share.. that works fairly well. :)
[09:07] <EastDallas> Set the workgroup name to match the windows machines...smb.conf
[09:07] <VxQe> H
[09:07] <VxQe> Ah I see whats going on here.
[09:08] <danny> I'm trying to install the WG111v3 usb wireless adapter on ubuntu 10.04.2 using ndiswrapper
[09:08] <VxQe> Wasn't actually showing up as eth0
[09:09] <danny> I can install the .inf file with ndiswrapper but it says hardware isn't present
[09:09] <danny> can anyone help me?
[09:09] <Shown> i bought a low cost vps with ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS. i would like to install a minimal desktop environment in order to make mIRC run with Wine. What can I do? I followed few tutorials but all installed incomplete software. This is the log when i tried running startx: http://pastebin.com/tZd3DRR7
[09:10] <danny> No one can help me?
[09:11] <dr_willis> Not a lot of peopel use ndiswarappers these days
[09:11] <danny> how else can I install the drivers then?
[09:11] <dr_willis> Lucky for me - i dont need it any more.
[09:11] <runvnc> danny
[09:11] <dr_willis> !wireless
[09:11] <odix> why would ubuntu server give me inpjut not supported on boot from my monitor ?
[09:11] <danny> Yes runvnc?
[09:11] <odix> but i got it to work one time ? then when i log in ifup eth0 gives me unknown interface
[09:11] <VxQe> Was just udev rules. Fixed and works now~
[09:12] <odix> yet inconfig shows it, yet /etc/networking doesnt
[09:12] <odix> not iw ont even boot, says input not supported
[09:12] <runvnc> danny I was trying to get my wireless usb to work, I changed a config file, rebooted, and my entire filesystem was deleted (wubi install, no /ubuntu/disks).  all I can say is, I hope your luck is better than mine
[09:12] <EastDallas> I actually keep a copy of an old config file file from 2 or 3 years ago as reference for myself, but it's just surprising to me that there's no 'easy' way to make changes without getting into editing config files.  It's just pretty intimidating to a new user.
[09:12] <VxQe> Shown: a better question would be why are you trying to run mIRC?
[09:12] <dr_willis> Shown,  it seems a little weird to use a vps to run a desktop to run wine, to run mirc...
[09:12] <trijntje_oneiric> what program is the sound pictogram in the top bar?
[09:12] <EastDallas> Well, there is a way to get a web based config, but I don't dare mention the name here.
[09:12] <VxQe> I agree with the Doc. :)
[09:12] <hexacode> how on earth do i work with piped data? i need to access pipe data programatically in c++ please help
[09:12] <danny> @runvnc, ugh, hopefully
[09:13] <dr_willis> hexacode,    read stdin use data...
[09:13] <danny> @runvnc I just need it to recognize the darn dongle
[09:13] <VxQe> hexacode: This probably isn't the best place to ask.
[09:13] <dr_willis> I imagine thers dozens if not 100000's or c++ programs out taht do it.. and you can look at for examples.. i dont do c++
[09:14] <runvnc> isnt there a #c++ or something
[09:14] <VxQe> Try a C++ channel maybe. :/
[09:14] <Chilaquiles> what language is made linux in?
[09:14] <runvnc> what type of usb wireless is it
[09:14] <amit121> hii friends
[09:15] <amit121>  I have an unusual problem in Banshee
[09:15] <n8wulf> good morning from South Africa
[09:15] <danny> @runvnc it's the netgear WG111v3
[09:15] <osos> good morning!
[09:15] <amit121> whenever I click any song to play it doesnt play .. it just opens up
[09:15] <trijntje_oneiric> What program draws the sound icon on the top panel?
[09:15] <runvnc> I guess having my filesystem deleted isn't the worst thing that could happen.  At least I have no more Ubuntu problems anymore.
[09:15] <EastDallas> hexacode: theres a channel called ##c++ that has a lot of users.
[09:15] <runvnc> what version of ubuntu danny
[09:16] <odix> anybody ?
[09:16] <odix> booting ubuntu gives me nothing, i got to the command line once
[09:16] <n8wulf> AMIT121:  do you have sound otherwise?
[09:16] <danny> @runvnc Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS 32 bit, run on VM VirtualBox
[09:16] <odix> startx wasnt installed, its the server version, it also didnt connect to the internet, ifup eth0, start eth0, ifconfig, tried them all
[09:16] <runvnc> ah, on virtualbox
[09:16] <dr_willis> odix,  how are you connected to the internet?  do you use dhcp?
[09:16] <odix> does ubuntu server not come withx windows ?
[09:17] <dr_willis> odix,  server = No X GUI
[09:17] <runvnc> does vitualbox let you use any other usb devices?
[09:17] <odix> dr_willis, yes i was trying with dhcp to
[09:17] <odix> dhclient
[09:17] <danny> @runvnc, I'm using my usb keyboard and mouse
[09:17] <odix> dr_willis, it wont even boot now, monitor says input not supported, could it be a driver issue? its a via computer
[09:17] <odix> cyrix processor
[09:17] <odix> x86 based tho
[09:17] <Shown> [10:12:30]	VxQe: Shown: a better question would be why are you trying to run mIRC?
[09:17] <Shown> 8[10:12:34]	dr_willis: Shown,  it seems a little weird to use a vps to run a desktop to run wine, to run mirc...
[09:17] <Shown> windows vps cost 3 times linux ones. i've many mirc scripts. wouldn't like to recode them all.
[09:17] <danny> what's weird is that I have the wireless drivers downloaded on windows, so I get internet in virtualbox ubuntu
[09:17] <danny> but it doesn't recognize the hardware for some reason
[09:18] <dr_willis> odix,  all ive ever had to do was sudo dhclient eth0  or similer..    if you are seeing an  'input not zupported' by the monitor. it could be GRUB's refresh rate/display is not liking the moniotr. I set the gruib configs to use a simple text display on this machine. or else i get a similer message 'frewuency out of range'
[09:18] <odix> dr_willis, well how do i even fix that if i cant see anything ?
[09:18] <runvnc> danny did you try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732827
[09:18] <odix> using the keys, after it loads, what should i push to get me to the command line
[09:19] <dr_willis> odix,  well for here. (on desktop edition) grub timed out and booted the fiorst time. so i fixed it then.
[09:19] <runvnc> danny are you just trying to get your windows internet to carry over to your virtualbox?
[09:19] <amit121> n8wulf: I have sound in Banshee
[09:19] <dr_willis> odix,  i would think grub would eventually boot the default entry.
[09:19] <Shown> i've 128 mb ram. that should be fine to run mirc+wine+minimal desktop? isn't it?
[09:19] <osos> is it possible to get window resize behind some button. in the same fashion alt-key works by default for window move?
[09:19] <EastDallas> odix: Cyrix hasn't been around for something like 15 years....
[09:19] <odix> dr_Willis, it should...but its not
[09:19] <dr_willis> Shown, i would be impresed if it ran very well at all.
[09:20] <amit121> the problem is I have set Banshee as default player and It should thus start playing the song I doulbe clikc
[09:20] <danny> @runvnc I haven't tried that tut and will immediately. I'm trying to get ubuntu to recognize it so I can use it with kismet
[09:20] <amit121> instaed it just opens
[09:20] <danny> @runvnc I'll do the tut and post results
[09:20] <van7hu> good afternoon
[09:20] <runvnc> do you juust need the internet or you need to actually use that device
[09:20] <runvnc> if you have the internet provided by windows
[09:20] <runvnc> can you just set the network in virtualbox to NAT or something
[09:20] <danny> @runvnc I need to actually use the device, I get internet fine in ubuntu because I have my wireless configured in Windows
[09:21] <n8wulf> amit121: I see, but once you are inside banshee, if you click on a song, then it will play?
[09:21] <van7hu> SIMH is not in repo?
[09:21] <dr_willis> !info simh
[09:21] <odix> monitor is saying input not supported on boot, but i got it to the cmd line one time, otherwise its stalling..
[09:21] <amit121> yes
[09:21] <dr_willis> van7hu,  its uin the universe repo.
[09:21] <EastDallas> odix: how old is the computer?
[09:21] <odix> brand new from best buy
[09:22] <ghufran> is there a way to get back applets in 11.04
[09:22] <odix> they are little via boxes
[09:22] <van7hu> dr_willis, nice command, thanks
[09:22] <amit121> If I press play button it starts with some song which it has set as default
[09:22] <odix> super small, very small, tiny computers
[09:22] <ghufran> i dont mind where they are .. infact i'd prefer they are in the launch bar
[09:22] <EastDallas> OK, VIA licensed all of Cyrix's technology
[09:22] <amit121> n8wulf:
[09:22] <amit121> If I press play button it starts with some song which it has set as default
[09:22] <odix> its a mini computer with like 3 usb ports and a vga and ethernet, thats it, forget what they are called. like a mini server
[09:23] <amit121> normally one expects to double click and song starts playing
[09:23] <EastDallas> Odix: It's like a media server of some sort?
[09:23] <danny> @runvnc, I have a problem with the tut. I try "tar -xvjf compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2" and get a couple of errors
[09:23] <Ubuntu-firsttime> anyone recommend the best version for a Toshiba Satellite laptop with a T2300 processor - 1 mb ram
[09:23] <odix> eastdalllas, yes sorta, the motherboard is like 4 x r4 inches, one slot for room, and two sata slots
[09:23] <n8wulf> amit121: sorry mate... hoped it would be something easier like a sound issue
[09:23] <amit121> hehe
[09:23] <amit121> ok
[09:23] <n8wulf> amit121: bump... somebody else
[09:23] <n8wulf> ?
[09:24] <n8wulf> bluenemo why would you wanna do something like that?
[09:24] <EastDallas> odix: itx?
[09:25] <van7hu> !info virtualbox
[09:25] <EastDallas> odix: rather mini-itx
[09:25] <dr_willis> !vbox
[09:25] <van7hu> !info vbox
[09:25] <ghufran> !info launcher
[09:25] <dr_willis> !fixh
[09:25] <dr_willis> !fish
[09:26] <van7hu> !help
[09:26] <van7hu> !bot
[09:26] <dr_willis> !fishing
[09:26] <Mandrew> Bazhang how do i actvate globalmenu in xubuntu? I cant find that setting :( i find it in ubuntu without breaking a sweat though :)
[09:26] <van7hu> I wish I could make a bot for fun :)
[09:27] <dr_willis> van7hu,  its not that hard.
[09:27] <EastDallas> odix, is this a solo install or dual boot with windows?
[09:28] <amit121> well this sucks
[09:28] <van7hu> dr_willis, yeah, I know, but it could take me 7 days for learning a little about python or other
[09:28] <amit121> tried exaile
[09:28] <amit121> it doesnt support this basic feature as well
[09:28] <amit121> when I double click I hope that it starts playing..
[09:28] <odix> edast, dual
[09:28] <dr_willis> van7hu,  at least you dident spend ages learning  'mIRC' scripting and thinking you were learning some real codkign skills :)
[09:28] <amit121> any1 knows any music player that does that
[09:29] <EastDallas> odix: with wubi or it's own partition?
[09:29] <dr_willis> van7hu,  theres premade bots out there also.  it all depends on what you want to waste your time on. :) as long as its fun
[09:29] <odix> own partition
[09:30] <odix> made a / for ext4, and a swap
[09:30] <cna> witam wszystkich, hello all
[09:30] <Mandrew> Anyone that knows how to activate globalmenu in xubuntu? I have done sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-appmenu but i cant find the setting to activate it in xubuntu
[09:30] <van7hu> dr_willis, I agree, it's really fun
[09:30] <osos> amit121: sorry, what's your problem, mate?
[09:31] <odix> being really weird
[09:31] <odix> input not supported on boot
[09:31] <dr_willis> odix,  so its the monitor saying this? or the computer/bios saying it?
[09:31] <EastDallas> odix: I think I might just start over.  You could spend hours or days trying to figure out what's wrong.  Since it's brand new, it might just be easier to start over, then if you are still having issues....
[09:31] <amit121> osos:
[09:32] <EastDallas> dr_willis: odix: that's a monitor message
[09:32] <EastDallas> dr_willis: odix: like no signal
[09:32] <odix> i know
[09:33] <odix> but why would it say that
[09:33] <odix> it boots the bios
[09:33] <dr_willis> Right. Ive some monitors where i have to edit my /etc/default/grub and enable --> GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[09:33] <odix> then says that
[09:33] <FloodBot1> odix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <amit121> osos: hii
[09:33] <dr_willis> grub is using some res/dosplay the monitor dosent like. Odd that its not just auto-booting. It could be theres a 2nd issue that its not dosplaying
[09:33] <amit121> I was trying to kill music player but it is playing..
[09:33] <dr_willis> You could boot a live cd. chroot in, fix and reinstall grub.
[09:33] <amit121> no sign of nay player
[09:34] <amit121> tried system monitor to kill clementine .. it became zombie
[09:34] <osos> amit121: have you tried open with -> other -> banshee -> remember this setting?
[09:35] <amit121> yes
[09:35] <amit121> but it has a fixed playlist
[09:36] <amit121> osos: tried that again
[09:36] <rgenito_> *sigh*
[09:36] <rgenito_> ubuntu saddens me sometimes
[09:36] <amit121> when I click on a mp3 file; it just opens
[09:36] <amit121> nothing is played
[09:36] <danny> Hey, I'm having major trouble trying to untar a tar.bz2
[09:36] <amit121> rgenito_: Ubuntu is great
[09:36] <danny> I used the command tar -xvjf compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2
[09:36] <theadmin> danny: Why so? tar xvf blah.tbz2
[09:37] <theadmin> danny: Or that
[09:37] <amit121> its our lack of knowledge tht creates problem most of time
[09:37] <danny> theadmin: it always gives me the same errors. Let me link you pastebin...
[09:38] <hiexpo> yup human error
[09:38] <rgenito_> for my IPv4 eth0, my method was Automatic DHCP and internet worked great..then i changed it to manual real quick. internet no worky. so THEN i changed it back to automatic. internet still doesn't work.
[09:38] <rgenito_> any ideas? =\
[09:38] <rly> Can I pause a file transfer via ssh?
[09:38] <theadmin> rgenito_: sudo dhclient eth0?
[09:39] <danny> theadmin: http://pastebin.com/nDBm1026
[09:39] <danny> theadmin: that's a paste of the errors I get back when I do those
[09:39] <rgenito_> theadmin, i think that may have worked... but it insists on giving me 192.168.1.4 ... and i just want it to be 192.168.1.3 ... for my OCD reasons lol
[09:39] <rly> (I am using the Gnome GUI to do the transfer.)
[09:40] <rly> rgenito_: OCD?
[09:40] <hiexpo> pausing usually means epic failure
[09:40] <rly> hiexpo: right, kind of ridiculous, isn't it?
[09:40] <theadmin> danny: You sure the filename is right though? And it's in your home folder?
[09:40] <amit121> is zombie status in system montor for three processes a sign of fork bomb?
[09:40] <dasupergamer> erm when I boto into a ubuntu live usb and try to install along side windows vista. it deosnt detect my vista install..........
[09:40] <danny> theadmin: yep
[09:40] <dasupergamer> doesnt*
[09:41] <theadmin> danny: Do you have read permissions on the file?
[09:41] <rly> amit121: a fork bomb means you cannot enter your machine via ssh anymore.
[09:41] <danny> theadmin: how do I check?
[09:41] <rgenito_> OCD = obsessive-compulsive disorder
[09:41] <cna> first install vista then linux
[09:41] <theadmin> danny: ls -l compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2
[09:41] <rly> rgenito_: anyway, you tell your router to give you static IP adresses.
[09:41] <amit121> ok
[09:41] <dasupergamer> vista is  installed first......
[09:41] <cna> grub update ?
[09:41] <rgenito_> rly ya, apparently i'm missing something when i do that
[09:42] <amit121> rly: any idea to make banshee or any music player open and play the mp3 player I clikc
[09:42] <dasupergamer> but ubuntu detected xp when i had xp... but wont pick up 32bit vista home premium
[09:42] <odix> just hooked it up to another monitor, works now
[09:42] <rgenito_> rly: ya, just something wrong on my part honestly
[09:42] <dasupergamer> amit121
[09:42] <danny> theadmin: http://pastebin.com/ZK1ypdhB
[09:42] <odix> so after i login, how to do i get eth9 up ?
[09:42] <danny> theadmin: that's the result of the command
[09:42] <dasupergamer> right click on the mp3 file
[09:42] <theadmin> danny: Sounds fine. Weird.
[09:42] <rly> rgenito_: if you use network manager (the gui applet), then you can just say you want a static address.
[09:42] <theadmin> danny: Can you, uh... bzip2 -d http://pastebin.com/ZK1ypdhB
[09:43] <theadmin> err
[09:43] <danny> theadmin: does it make a difference if I'm using virtualbox?
[09:43] <rgenito_> rly how do i tell what my subnet mask and all of that needs to be?
[09:43] <rly> rgenito_: if both the router and your computer want a static address there is no way you are getting a dynamic one.
[09:43] <danny> theadmin: what do you mean?
[09:43] <dasupergamer> @amit121 right click on the mp3 file. then go to a tabto change the defualt program it laods when you click on it to banshee
[09:43] <cna> in terminal grub update dasupergamer
[09:43] <theadmin> danny: bzip2 -d compat-wireless-whatever.tar.bz2 | tar x?
[09:43] <dasupergamer> thanks cna
[09:43] <theadmin> danny: Try that command
[09:43] <rly> rgenito_: you do a google search, since tens of millions of people already configured the exact same thing.
[09:43] <amit121> dasupergamer: did that
[09:43] <cna> works ?
[09:44] <amit121> when I click on an mp3 file the music player just opens
[09:44] <rly> rgenito_: in combination with some documentation of your ISP.
[09:44] <amit121> nothing plays
[09:44] <dasupergamer> @amit121 i don't know then
[09:44] <rly> rgenito_: e.g. where your router is
[09:44] <amit121> and when I press play button. it open some songs
[09:44] <dasupergamer> it works cna......
[09:44] <amit121> it is showing three banshee players
[09:44] <rgenito_> rly: that is quite obvious. the problem is not my lack of google searching (i mean, who seriously has a lack of that?) ... i am putting some information in incorrectly, and i am overlooking it. that's all, i'll figure it out.
[09:44] <amit121> why 3 players?\\
[09:44] <dasupergamer> @amit121 try all 3 of them
[09:45] <dasupergamer> @amit121 one of them has to work
[09:45] <hiexpo> sudo killall banshee
[09:45] <danny> theadmin: http://pastebin.com/3Q2nDU0G
[09:45] <amit121> ok
[09:45] <amit121> all three work same
[09:45] <odix> dr_willis ...eth0 up ?
[09:45] <LinSkyrate> downloaded a radio app for Radio Tray.. Cool app but howto import norwegian channels?
[09:45] <theadmin> danny: damaged archive
[09:45] <theadmin> danny: My best guess
[09:46] <danny> theadmin: is there any way to fix it? I'm trying to follow a tutorial on how to install a wireless adapter
[09:46] <dasupergamer> oh I don't know how to change that radio tray app......
[09:46] <theadmin> danny: Probably redownload or something
[09:46] <theadmin> danny: If not, contact whoever published it
[09:46] <dasupergamer> ubuntu automatically works with wireless adaptors... well mine does anyway
[09:46] <odix> please somebody help, need to get eth0 up from terminal its really important right now boss right berhind me
[09:46] <danny> theadmin: ok, thanks!
[09:47] <theadmin> odix: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[09:47] <dr_willis> odix,  or dhclient eth0   i recall
[09:47] <dasupergamer> yep what theadmin siad
[09:47] <dr_willis> if its a normal wired network connection
[09:48] <dasupergamer> guys...... do you guys recommend using WINE for microsoft office. i virtual machine for microsoft office and suing a linux office suite to do my work
[09:48] <theadmin> dasupergamer: Use Libreoffice and don't fsck your brain
[09:48] <BlouBlou> dasupergamer: most of use use libreoffice
[09:48] <theadmin> dasupergamer: There is no need for M$office
[09:48] <BlouBlou> us*
[09:48] <odix> it kinda is
[09:48] <dr_willis> yep. From what i hear libreoffice works very well.
[09:49] <dasupergamer> well i did buy office 2010 profession though
[09:49] <odix> its not resolving yahoo.com on ping tho
[09:49] <dr_willis> get a refund. :)
[09:49] <dr_willis> we dont even know of  office2010pro will wiork in wine. check the wine app database
[09:49] <dr_willis> !appdb
[09:49] <theadmin> odix: sudo dhclient eth0 then
[09:50] <dasupergamer> well stuff like word does and excel and access but nothing else though
[09:50] <theadmin> odix: Err, wait, actually
[09:50] <theadmin> odix: Edit your /etc/resolv.conf to say "nameserver 8.8.8.8"
[09:50] <dr_willis> ping 74.125.225.82             and try  ping google.com
[09:50] <dr_willis> if ip works.. but not name = dns issue.
[09:51] <cna> libreofiice works werry wlell
[09:51] <odix> network unreachable
[09:51] <odix> hmm
[09:51] <dasupergamer> but only has 6 programs..... anything like visio for linux
[09:51] <Mandrew> Anyone who knows how to activate globalmenu in xubuntu?
[09:51] <LinSkyrate> downloaded a radio app for Radio Tray.. Cool app but howto import norwegian channels? anyone?
[09:51] <dr_willis> ifconfig - to see if yiour network card even has an ip#
[09:51] <amit121> no music player in Ubuntu??
[09:51] <dasupergamer> cant help you there amte
[09:51] <BlouBlou> Mandrew: #xubuntu, #xfce
[09:51] <dr_willis> dozens of music players for linux and ubuntu
[09:51] <amit121> I just want to be able to click a song and play it
[09:52] <amit121> but no music player seems to does it
[09:52] <cna> banshee
[09:52] <dr_willis> I double click a mp3 here and it loads in banshee fine.
[09:52] <dasupergamer> i am off to reinstall windows vista in a minute...... damn tv tuner
[09:52] <Mandrew> BlouBlou that channel is dead ;)
[09:52] <BlouBlou> amit121: there are 2, totem and banshee
[09:52] <pksadiq> !player | amit121
[09:52] <dr_willis> You do need the proper codecs
[09:52] <amit121> friends
[09:52] <cna> sudo apt-get install banshee
[09:52] <BlouBlou> Mandrew: dead or not, it's in which you're going to get help
[09:53] <BlouBlou> Mandrew: try "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[09:53] <BlouBlou> errr
[09:53] <amit121> actually the problem is when I click an mp3 file it just opens the default app
[09:53] <BlouBlou> amit121: ^
[09:53] <dr_willis> Mandrew,  its very possible that global menu does not work in xubuntu/xfce  -
[09:53] <BlouBlou> amit121: change it then
[09:53] <aslan> hi people, which linux distro best for offical using with 90 client ? for stable and good management with PFSENSE firewall ? i am looking for linux versions which one i will install. this office will be open in august first week... this is an hospital.. and hospital program is web based and i only need firefox... this is why i will use linux and we will not spend stupid moneys for licenses, whats your suggest to use ? ubuntu ? suse ? fedora ? slackware ? thank
[09:53] <cna> amit121 : sudo apt-get install banshee
[09:53] <aslan> you.
[09:53] <amit121> I it does nothing
[09:53] <amit121> I have banshee
[09:54] <amit121> just i remove it and reinstall?
[09:54] <odix> still cant get it up
[09:54] <BlouBlou> aslan: you're on #ubuntu, so we'll recommend ubuntu
[09:54] <pksadiq> aslan: of course, here I won't say other than Ubuntu
[09:54] <dr_willis> aslan,  if everything is web based.. then it really dosent matter.   You could use a live cd setup.
[09:54] <odix> its connected via ethernet to a switcher on t3 diff lines, works perfect when i plug it into my laptop
[09:54] <Mandrew> BlouBlou and dr_willis thanks for the help
[09:54] <aslan> BlouBlou:  pksadiq : BlouBlou  i only ask ideas . for management and stable versions.. thanks again
[09:55] <dr_willis> odix,  so theres a router/dhcp server somewhere on the network?
[09:55] <odix> yes
[09:55] <dr_willis> aslan,  most business would go the Ubuntu LTS route.
[09:55] <cna> amit121:  try install Rhythmbox
[09:55] <amit121> ok
[09:55] <BlouBlou> aslan: try using Ubuntu LTS versions then
[09:56] <aslan> BlouBlou:  thanks, i use ubuntu 11 04 now. i have 10.10 maverick meerkat at home. i will try your suggestions.
[09:57] <odix> wtf is giong on!!!
[09:57] <BlouBlou> aslan: I wouldn't use  if you want stability, try 10.04
[09:57] <odix> sudo ifconfig eth0 up gives me no errors, ifconfig gives me a long ip addy, cant get anything to download from apt-get
[09:57] <BlouBlou> I wouldn't use 11.04
[09:58] <cna> don`t usue 11.04 if you use gnome
[09:58] <odix> im just trying to get gnome
[09:58] <dr_willis> having to teach 90+ people how to use Unity - would be... tramatic..
[09:58] <dr_willis> :)
[09:58] <cna> omg unity
[09:58] <BlouBlou> !omg | cna
[09:59] <cna> sorry
[10:00] <hexacode> anyone know of an ubuntu utility that lets me look up the daemons that are running?
[10:00] <pksadiq> dr_willis: isn't gnome and Ubuntu classic the same?
[10:00] <dr_willis> the service command hexacode
[10:00] <hexacode> thanks
[10:00] <dr_willis> pksadiq,  they look similer - but they are not identical
[10:00] <cna> odix,: before log in use ubuntu clasic
[10:01] <pksadiq> dr_willis: k, so untill ubuntu 10.10 it was gnome, and 11.04 not?
[10:01] <bgutom> hmm. i have a problem with lamp, can someone help me..
[10:01] <odix> cna, ya im down with ser4ver edition
[10:01] <bgutom> i am new to ubuntu
[10:01] <odix> im just goin to make my own server out of hte desktkp edition...
[10:01] <dr_willis> 11.04 has unity and the ubuntu-classic over top of the gnome-3 foundataion.. i think thats  a good summary
[10:01] <odix> this is stupid nothing but pissing me off it cant setup dhcp auto by itself
[10:01] <odix> bbl
[10:02] <dr_willis> next release will be Unity over gnome-3 foundataions, and gnome-3 as an option. No Ubuntu-classic.
[10:02] <bgutom> Anyone help please, i am new to ubuntu and irc
[10:02] <Chilaquiles> xgt001: Can I reinstall debian only and make that grub from debian doesn't overwrite grub from ubuntu?
[10:02] <dr_willis> bgutom,  state the problem. see who can help
[10:03] <dr_willis> Chilaquiles,  you would  have to tell debian to not install the bootloader.
[10:03] <bgutom> ok.. well, I just installed lamp yesterday
[10:03] <dr_willis> or just let it.. then reinstall grub from ubuntu.
[10:03] <bgutom> and now, i want to downgrade php from 5.3 to 5.2
[10:03] <Chilaquiles> dr_willis:  but then I will be able to boot debian
[10:03] <Chilaquiles> ?
[10:04] <pksadiq> dr_willis: great _waiting* for *gnome3* ;)
[10:04] <robin0800> pksadiq, in 11.04 unity is on top of gnome 2.xx classic is just gnome 2.xx
[10:04] <nascentmind> Hi. My /var/log/messages file is empty. How can I enable messages?
[10:04] <amit121> rhythmbox failed as well
[10:04] <sushant> hi
[10:04] <re_rock> whois re_rock
[10:04] <amit121> any help? would be much appreciated
[10:04] <pksadiq> robin0800: ok
[10:05] <bgutom> Anyone, please help me downgrade my lamp PHP version from 5.3 to 5.2, I am using ubuntu unity
[10:05] <mklappstuhl> hey
[10:05] <sushant> any body knows good tool to write iso to usb ?
[10:05] <pksadiq> amit121: there might be some problem with codecs then, try vlc
[10:06] <mklappstuhl> how was the name of that program that shows big files as colored blocks again?
[10:06] <pksadiq> amit121: before that try restarting your system, check whether the sound is muted, cable is plugged, etc.. ;)
[10:06] <Chilaquiles> dr_willis: I let it overwrite the grub but I have so many problems now
[10:06] <robin0800> pksadiq, and if unity dosn't work there is always unity 2d
[10:06] <Chilaquiles> dr_willis: So I just want to keep the one from ubuntu
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> sushant: is it for Os booting usb?
[10:07] <amit121> pksadiq: music plays
[10:07] <amit121> its not problem with sound
[10:08] <pksadiq> amit121: logout and login again, do you get the login sound?
[10:08] <mklappstuhl> anyone?
[10:08] <pksadiq> amit121: so wheres the problem?
[10:08] <bgutom> Anyone, please help me downgrade my lamp PHP version from 5.3 to 5.2, I am using ubuntu unity
[10:08] <dr_willis> Chilaquiles,  the ubuntu grub should show debian insstalls id think. it finds/shows most other disrtos.
[10:08] <re_rock> can someone run a whois on me and tell me the IP?
[10:09] <amit121> my problem is whenever I click any mp3 file in folder; the player just opens nothing plays... it either gets enquequed or is lost
[10:09] <cousin_mario> hello
[10:09] <stickdw> hello
[10:09] <cousin_mario> is there a ppa for the nvidia driver 275.09.07 yet?
[10:09] <weirdpercent> something is wrong with my gnome-control-center in Natty
[10:09] <weirdpercent> the only icon there is Users
[10:09] <amit121> decibel audio player worked as I wanted it :) finally!!
[10:09] <Chilaquiles> re_rock: 184.98.55.103
[10:10] <stickdw> 182.37.149.1
[10:10] <weirdpercent> I've tried reinstalling all related packages and nothing changes
[10:10] <re_rock> thanks
[10:10] <re_rock> cant get the proxy to work
[10:10] <amit121> amusing gmusic browser also worked
[10:10] <pksadiq> amit121: tried totem too? I'm using that, also vlc works fine, I think rhythmbox and banshee works the way as it is now for you
[10:11] <amit121> seems the  banshee and rhythmbox are too advanced
[10:11] <amit121> vlc works fine too
[10:11] <amit121> totem has library function?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> anyone found bug for natty wlan TKIP encryption disconnecting wifi?
[10:11] <amit121> does totem has library function?
[10:12] <Chilaquiles> many bugs for natty, there is a big one called unity
[10:12] <vindolino> ^^
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:12] <mklappstuhl> how was the name of that program that shows big files as colored blocks again?
[10:12] <sushant> does anyone know a good program to write iso images to usb disk
[10:12] <weirdpercent> braseroo
[10:12] <bgutom> Anyone, please help me downgrade my lamp PHP version from 5.3 to 5.2, I am using ubuntu unity
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> mklappstuhl: whats the purpose for the program?
[10:12] <weirdpercent> brasero*
[10:13] <punty> hi
[10:13] <weirdpercent> wait I take that back, you said USB disk, sorry
[10:13] <mklappstuhl> lotuspsychje: finding big files on your system that you might not need anymore
[10:13] <sushant> brasero only burns iso to cd/dvd not usb
[10:13] <dr_willis> sushant,  what kind of image?
[10:14] <vindolino> no grub menu shows up on my 11.04 installation :( timeout is 10.. any ideas?
[10:14] <computerx> mklappstuhl, Disk Usage Analyser, under Accessories
[10:14] <sushant> its debian 6.0 iso image for i386
[10:14] <dr_willis> sushant,   then try unetbootin, or the tools at pendrivelinux web site
[10:14] <jasl> vindolino hold shift key down during boot
[10:14] <sushant> i want to write it to a 4 gb pen drive i've
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> mklappstuhl: isnt that the default ubuntu space monitor prog?
[10:14] <weirdpercent> what would cause gnome-control-center icons to disappear in Natty?
[10:15] <sushant> ok let me check with unetbootin and pendrive linux, thanks
[10:15] <jasl> sushant google for bootable usb drive linux
[10:15] <vindolino> jasl: cool.. thanks!
[10:15] <jasl> vindolino da nada
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> sushant: ubuntu has a usb booting tool prog inside
[10:16] <sushant> i'm not able to get the program
[10:16] <sushant> search for usb-imagewriter but its not there
[10:16] <pksadiq> lotuspsychje: I don't think it could be used for debian 6.0
[10:16] <oCean> jasl: please don't suggest google searches
[10:16] <jasl> Why
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> pksadiq: isnt it for all iso images?
[10:16] <sushant> i already tried google but didnt get any so came here
[10:16] <BlouBlou> !google > jasl
[10:16] <oCean> jasl: not helpful. Provide at least a link that you know is helpful
[10:17] <pksadiq> lotuspsychje: no, its for Ubuntu images only I think , my first try was the puppy linux which failed
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> pksadiq: ok my bad then didnt try with other images
[10:17] <bgutom> Anyone, please help me downgrade my lamp PHP version from 5.3 to 5.2, I am using ubuntu unity
[10:18] <mklappstuhl> computerx: lotuspsychje I want to isntall on another distribution. can you tell me the name of the project?
[10:18] <Kurdt> heyy ppl
[10:19] <jasl> oCean I usually do.
[10:19] <Tyrnis> plop all
[10:19] <oCean> jasl: Good to hear
[10:19] <jasl> oCean I'm preoccupied this morning.
[10:19] <dr_willis> the Ubuntu usb-disk tool - dosent work for every linux disrto. its ubuntu spefific i recall.
[10:19] <cna> sushant,  try AcetonelISO
[10:20] <computerx> mklappstuhl, Which, the disk usage analyser?
[10:20] <gerald> hi
[10:20] <Guest23653> hi
[10:20] <sushant> have u tried that cna ?
[10:20] <computerx> bgutom, I can't find a specific 5.2 in the package repository. If you want a specific version, I'd compile it yourself.
[10:20] <mklappstuhl> computerx: yup
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> mklappstuhl: baobab
[10:21] <dr_willis> sushant,  the Pendrivelinux web site has tools that can do what you want.
[10:21] <sushant> cna, have u tried that ?
[10:21] <computerx> mklappstuhl, I thought it's part of Gnome, but I can't run it and check because my system has gone a bit screwy...
[10:21] <sushant> yeah i'm checking the pendrive linux
[10:21] <Guest23653> im having trouble with unity n my ati hd4200  card
[10:21] <cna> sush yes, there is option burn
[10:22] <amit121> gmusic browser is amazing!!
[10:22] <computerx> How can I force umount something, regardless of it being in use?
[10:22] <amit121> uncomplicated and easy
[10:22] <sushant> actually i want to install from the USB not on USB
[10:22] <amit121> hope it imporves more in future
[10:22] <Guest23653> hello?
[10:22] <amit121> eyecandy is good
[10:22] <jasl> sushant https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: Startup Disk Creator converts a USB key or SD card into a volume from which you can start up and run Ubuntu. You can also store files and settings in any space left over.
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> The program also works for Debian, or any other Debian-based OS for which you have a CD or .iso image.
[10:22] <amit121> Guest23653: hiii
[10:23] <soame> hi all
[10:23] <computerx> Guest23653, Perhaps you could explain. We're not psychic, despite my best attempts.
[10:23] <sushant> thanks jasl
[10:23] <Guest23653> ok
[10:23] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje, ive  found it very flakey with ubuntu variants.. i would be very suprised if it worked with debian very well.
[10:23] <pksadiq> lotuspsychje: but elive was not working which is based on debian
[10:23] <mklappstuhl> lotuspsychje: baobab
[10:23] <mklappstuhl> lotuspsychje: baobab?
[10:23] <bgutom> computerx, is it possible to install lamp, and set the option to install php 5.2?
[10:23] <dr_willis> Pendrivelinux has a nice tool that can make a usb that can boot ISO files.  which is very very handy
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> i just paste what control centre describing
[10:24] <sushant> jasl, will that work for debian 6.0 as well?
[10:24] <bgutom> computerx, i am thinking of uninstalling lamp, and then reinstalling it again, but i am lost. i am new to ubuntu
[10:24] <soame> anybody knows what zeigeist-datahub doing in ubntu
[10:24] <dr_willis> what the center says.. and how well it works.. is often 2 differnt things.
[10:24] <dr_willis> the Startup disk creator has had issues with UBUNTU isos in the past. :)
[10:24] <Guest23653> i did a fresh install and i keep getting distortions in unity
[10:24] <dr_willis> Its a tool that can use some work..
[10:24] <computerx> bgutom, Well lamp is 3 separate programs. Perhaps you could look for a specific 5.2 .deb file
[10:24] <jasl> Ah have no idea since you asked on a ubuntu channel you got a ubuntu answer.
[10:25] <cna> sushant,  sorry misunderstood
[10:25] <sushant> ohh okay, no probs, thanks
[10:25] <computerx> Guest23653, I guess you're using the free driver. Have you checked hardware drivers in the system menu?
[10:25] <Guest23653> yess
[10:25] <Guest23653> it didnt work
[10:26] <Guest23653> :(
[10:26] <bgutom> computerx, can you please guide me on how i can get this php5.2 .deb file and install it on my ubuntu?
[10:26] <computerx> Guest23653, I know this isn't helpful, but ATI annoyed me so much, I switched to Nvidia...
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> mklappstuhl: the default ubuntu hd space checking tool
[10:27] <Guest23653> if i do the system becomes un bootable
[10:27] <Chilaquiles> is it possible to install ubuntu in one drive and another os in another drive, and be able to log in in any of them?
[10:27] <Guest23653> if i install  drivers from the menu dat is
[10:27] <amit121> Chilaquiles: absolutely!
[10:28] <Sidewinder1> !dualboot | Chilaquiles
[10:28] <Tm_T> bgutom: you are trying to install php?
[10:28] <hiexpo> bgutom, double click it
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> !baobab
[10:28] <Guest23653> u think by the time 11.10 comes out this problem wud be solved?
[10:28] <amit121> I declare gmusicbrowser is the best music player in the world!! .. really I am quite impressed with it
[10:29] <cousin_mario> bbl
[10:29] <bgutom> Tm_t, yes, I actually have already installed lamp, but i would like to downgrade its php version from 5.3 to 5.2
[10:29] <bgutom> hiexpo, im am sorry, where should i double click
[10:29] <wrek-gar> need some help setting up desktop to act as either a wireless access point or ad hoc - trying to get mobile phone to access web via wifi
[10:29] <amit121> anyway; after a weak of tweaking; I fnnaly have a great looking and fast working distro customized to my llking...
[10:30] <dr_willis> bgutom,  if theres an older version in the repos you can 'pin' it - otherwise. You may have to do it all from source.
[10:30] <dr_willis> !pin
[10:30] <Chilaquiles> amit121: well, it seems like its not possible for me
[10:30] <amit121> Any1 knows if I can somehow save this configuration.. can i?
[10:30] <hiexpo> bgutom, the deb file
[10:30] <Sidewinder1> Guest23653, It's doubtful, but did you check Ati.'s website to see if they have a linux driver for your card?
[10:30] <dr_willis> !remaster | Aminzai
[10:30] <notregistered> what is the logic of separating the menubar from the window? i don't understand that.
[10:30] <amit121> Chilaquiles: what did you do?
[10:30] <dr_willis> !remaster | amit121
[10:31] <dr_willis> amit121,  theres also some remaster scripts i recall.. not tried them in ages
[10:31] <Chilaquiles> I installed ubuntu, then win 7 and then debian, but the debian installation is not working
[10:31] <computerx> I made a sshfs connection to a remote server hours ago. The connection seems to have dropped, I can't umount it and it's stopping me running other software...
[10:31] <Chilaquiles> amit121: when I try to log into debian it says device not found after I install it
[10:31] <dr_willis> notregistered,  apple and a few other os's have done it in years..  theres discussion of its pros/cons in various forums
[10:32] <amit121> dr_willis:  abd ubottu   I need to save my current configuration with its themes and softwares.. What should I do?
[10:32] <Sidewinder1> Chilaquiles, Win 7 must be installed first; then the linux Os.s.
[10:32] <dr_willis> notregistered,  whats the point in having 4 apps all showing  a menu bar  taking up more screen space.. is one argument
[10:32] <thauriswulfa> HELP:How do I close http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1931013676679&set=a.1836660677913.2099953.1282376812&type=1  this irritating window in libre office
[10:32] <magn3ts> how do I exclude all traditional applet?
[10:32] <amit121> Chilaquiles: are you trying to install debian? where? which operating system you already have?
[10:32] <dr_willis> amit121,  time to do some research on it. :)
[10:32] <bgutom> dr_willis, i am sorry, I just started using ubuntu and a total noob in using terminal codes, but how can i check the repositories for php versions?
[10:32] <dr_willis> amit121,  its doable i hear.. not tried it in uyears.
[10:32] <magn3ts> I have one, idk what it declares itself as. but I need to excude it
[10:32] <Chilaquiles> amit121: I already have ubuntu and win7
[10:32] <Chilaquiles> amit121: And they are both working fine
[10:33] <dr_willis> bgutom,  i just use the synaptic package manager and see whats there. it has some menu items for it. Its possible theres NOT an older version in the repos.
[10:33] <pombaer> How can I find out which Java version my Ubuntu uses. I want to use the Sun version and not the free one.
[10:33] <dr_willis> bgutom,  if you really need the older version. You may need touse an older ubuntu - that may be the easiest way
[10:33] <dr_willis> pombaer,  java -version
[10:33] <van7hu> !spell
[10:33] <amit121> Chilaquiles: then how did you try to install debian?
[10:34] <Chilaquiles> amit121: With the cd, text installation
[10:34] <oCean> Chilaquiles: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[10:34] <pombaer> Just as I thought, I am using the open JDK Java. I want to use the SUN Java. How can I switch to it?
[10:34] <Chilaquiles> is ubuntu-debian issue
[10:34] <oCean> Chilaquiles: your ubuntu is already there, you said
[10:35] <Chilaquiles> yes but I think the grub is the problem
[10:35] <Chilaquiles> and is ubuntu grub
[10:35] <amit121> Chilaquiles: sorry no idea abt Debian
[10:35] <magn3ts> how do i exclude ALL regular notifications?
[10:36] <magn3ts> Anyone? please, this *has* to be a common question, if it's not, idk why. jfc.
[10:36] <oCean> Chilaquiles: debian also uses grub.
[10:36] <pombaer> Anybody?
[10:36] <van7hu> what a spell a good tool
[10:36] <Chilaquiles> oCean: I know
[10:36] <NiS> is anyone having problems using ATI Radeon mobility and 11.04?
[10:37] <amit121> any1 can explain what backup exactly does
[10:37] <oCean> Chilaquiles: when running update-grub, the os-prober should find other installed os'es and add grub-entries. Did you re-run update-grub?
[10:38] <Sidewinder1> pombaer, dr_willis already answered your question. ^^^
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> amit121: it archives importnat data so if there is a catastrophe you can easily restore the data
[10:38] <amit121> ActionParsnip: so there is not backup of themes or softwares?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> amit121: not by default, no
[10:38] <Chilaquiles> oCean: when I try to load it it says Loading please wait..... Gave up waiting for root device.
[10:38] <amit121> I have installed these themes and softwares after spending a lot of time
[10:39] <NiS> ATI proprietary drivers is actually making the whole thing slower than without it
[10:39] <hexacode> can someone tell me wat is happening to my terminal when i type any word followed by "()" ..for example   type "hello()" into the terminal...what the hell is that happening after i you type that in and hit enter?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> van7hu: do you want a spelling tool?
[10:39] <pombaer> How can I uninstall openJDK and install Sun Java?
[10:39] <thauriswulfa> pombaer:https://help.ubuntu.com/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9&cx=004599128559784038176%3Avj_p0xo-nng&ie=UTF-8&q=sun+java&sa=Search     and   jdk-distros.dev.java.net/ubuntu.html
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> pombaer: just install sun java and the open one will be ignored
[10:39] <amit121> I dont have any important personal data on drive.. but I wanna backup my settings and software collection and themes.. any idea how to achieve that?
[10:39] <kwtm2> Hi.  Is this the official #ubuntu channel, or another one that exists when I join freenode instead of ubuntu.org?
[10:39] <Chilaquiles> oCean: And then it goes to a shell in debian
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> pombaer: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/
[10:39] <hexacode> can someone tell me wat is happening to my terminal when i type any word followed by "()" ..for example   type "hello()" into the terminal...what the hell is that happening after  you type that in and hit enter?
[10:39] <NiS> yes
[10:39] <amit121> kwtm2: this is official
[10:39] <NiS> in the synaptic package manager
[10:40] <NiS> just type sun-java6-jdk
[10:40] <oCean> Chilaquiles: debian? So you're running update-grub from debian?
[10:40] <notregistered> is there going to be some more customizing options on the unitybar? I would like to remove the show/hide delay and probably want to remove the autohide aswell
[10:40] <NiS> select what you want to install, and it will be installed
[10:40] <pombaer> Thx but I am using Ubuntu 10.10
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> amit121: thats fine, there are hidden folders containing the settings in your home folder, just copy those to an extermal source and you can easily restor them later
[10:40] <wrek-gar> http://paste.debian.net/120234/
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> pombaer: it has a maverick branch
[10:40] <Chilaquiles> oCean: I can't run debian, how can I run that?
[10:40] <amit121> ActionParsnip: do they contain all the themes and softwares?
[10:40] <thauriswulfa> HELP:How do I close http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1931013676679&set=a.1836660677913.2099953.1282376812&type=1  this irritating window in libre office
[10:40] <oCean> Chilaquiles: quote: then it goes to a shell in debian
[10:41] <van7hu> ActionParsnip, I got spell, any other?
[10:41] <NiS> someone please help me with ATI graphic driver peoblems?
[10:41] <pombaer> ActionParsnip: thx
[10:41] <hiexpo> wow this is debiansupport now
[10:41] <Chilaquiles> oCean: When I try to log in into debian. but I just see a shell
[10:41] <wrek-gar> NiS, scroogle.org  - search; alberto milone
[10:41] <amit121> ActionParsnip: where can I find the folders?
[10:42] <kwtm2> amit121: Thanks.  Need help with dependencies: apparently I've gotten into a circular dependency of some sort.  It says:  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a4.4.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack): <newline> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/khelpcenter/searchhandlers/docbook.desktop', which is also in package khelpcenter4 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu1
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> amit121: those will probably be in .themes or in gconf someplace, I'm not sure exactly where they are stored
[10:42] <oCean> Chilaquiles: my question was, did you re-run update-grub in ubuntu. That should run the os-prober, adding newly found os-es
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> van7hu: is that what you desire though, you missed the question
[10:42] <hexacode> can someone tell me wat is happening to my terminal when i type any word followed by "()" ..for example   type "hello()" into the terminal...what the hell is that happening after  you type that in and hit enter?
[10:42] <kwtm2> Apparently it won't install kdebase-runtime because that would clobber kde-helpcenter4
[10:42] <dr_willis> hex-code,  its expecting more input due to that being some sort of macro/alias/extended feature.
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> any known bugs for natty on TKIP encryption disconnecting wifi?
[10:42] <dr_willis> hexacode,  its expecting more input due to that being some sort of macro/alias/extended feature.
[10:43] <Chilaquiles> oCean: I ran it, Im still trying to figure out if that will work
[10:43] <dr_willis> hexacode,  same as if ya did  ->  foo `
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> amit121: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1235248.html
[10:43] <kwtm2> But it won't remove kde-helpcenter4 because kubuntu-desktop depends on it.  Is there  a way I can tell it to remove kdehelpcenter4 even though kubuntu-desktop depends on it?
[10:43] <van7hu> ActionParsnip, yeah, I am just getting started with word games
[10:43] <kwtm2> Is there something like   apt-get accept-missing-dependency <dependent package>  <package I want to remove> ?
[10:44] <hexacode> dr_willis that only helps a little. i wanna know whats it waiting for me to do
[10:44] <avernos> the volume icon with ubuntu classic login is gone, how can i reload it? the sound volume applet
[10:44] <dr_willis> hexacode,  its a bash feature. why are you even using () that way?
[10:44] <NiS> wrek-gar: who is he? and how does that help?
[10:44] <wces> hexacode: it is waiting for you to define a shell function
[10:44] <Chilaquiles> oCean: But the last time I did it, it fixed it and then when I started debian, I had the grub problem again
[10:44] <dr_willis> hexacode,  break out of it with CTRL-C
[10:44] <dr_willis> shell function - yea. thats the term.. :)
[10:44] <NiS> wrek-gar: oh automatic detection, but mine is detected and installed
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> van7hu: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2011/05/offline-dictionaries-in-ubuntu.html
[10:45] <kwtm2> hexacode: You are defining the function   hello  .   To find out more, ask in the  #bash  channel (but they are less newbie-friendly there)
[10:45] <Chilaquiles> oCean: I don't know if debian overwrittes the ubuntu grub when I start it
[10:45] <hexacode> ah ok
[10:45] <hexacode> lol
[10:45] <dr_willis> Check the topic in #bash to find some docs/guides :)
[10:45] <dr_willis> Chilaquiles,  i imagine by default it would install its own bootloader. thus overwriteing ubuntus' theres proberly some option to tell it to NOT install a bootloader.
[10:46] <naxa> how can i print on both sides of paper in lucid?
[10:46] <amit121> gmusic browser is amazing.. now using google image for cover art search, that was clever very clever.. most cover arts fetchers in other music player fail to fetch hindi sons covers
[10:46] <amit121> good music player!!
[10:46] <Chotaz> Is it possible to run a script when the screensaver activates and shut it down when screensaver deactivates?(Folding)
[10:46] <kwtm2> If I type "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop", will it just remove that package itself (while leaving alone all packages that depend on it) or will it start disassembling the entire distro (which depends on it)?  I just want to get rid of kde-helpcenter4 which is preventing the upgrading of my other components.
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> amit121: I use deadbeef. Its sweet
[10:47] <oCean> Chilaquiles: if you are working with 2 os'es that both install the grub in MBR, then the 2nd will write over the 1st install. You can start ubuntu, run update-grub, or even try running os-prober first (this will just list what OS'es are found on which partitions)
[10:47] <dr_willis> Chotaz,  perhaps if using the xscreensavers instead of the gnome ones...
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> amit121: screenshot looks nice, is it stable?
[10:47] <dr_willis> kwtm2,  the *buntu-desktop psackatges are just meta-packages. removing them wont affect much
[10:48] <amit121> lotuspsychje: yes its great
[10:48] <kwtm2> dr_willis: Thanks.
[10:48] <amit121> ActionParsnip: I tried deadbeef but its only barebones
[10:48] <van7hu> ActionParsnip, thanks for the link
[10:48] <amit121> lotuspsychje: I dont know if its stable.. seems so
[10:48] <amit121> no reason to think it isnt
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> amit121: my main player is mplayer but deadbeef is good times
[10:49] <Legend_Xeon> hi there. I have two partitions on my hard disk viz. C: (40GB) and E: (60GB), in windows XP.  Now when i insert my Live CD during boot time and enter into cfdisk utility then it shows only 40GB NTFS drive only. What might be the problem?
[10:49] <wrek-gar> http://paste.debian.net/120234/
[10:49] <Chotaz> dr_willis, going to take a look at it, I cant have folding hogging my resources while im working thats why I was trying to run it alongside the screensaver, during inactive periods, thanks mate :
[10:49] <amit121> anyways its good eyecandy and easy navigation using coverarrts
[10:49] <amit121> also fetching art from google images.. it won me over
[10:49] <Chilaquiles> oCean: I did that but when I start debian, and then I restart the computer, it seems like now the grub changes because it says error: no such device
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Legend_Xeon: does the 60Gb partition hold an OS?
[10:49] <amit121> fetching art cover of hindi songs from last.fm always failed!!
[10:50] <amit121> google image search is much more advanced and inclusive!
[10:50] <dr_willis> Chotaz,  i thought the folding-service could do that allready.. even if the screensaver is not going.. it can sit in thebackground being nice and doing its work
[10:50] <Legend_Xeon> ActionParsnip, No. Its empty and i want to install Slackware onto that partition.
[10:50] <wrek-gar> http://paste.debian.net/120234/
[10:50] <amit121> such small thing make big difference
[10:50] <jakeriver> does anyone know how to make nokia cs-17 mobilebroadband usb-flash to work with ubuntu?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Legend_Xeon: so you want XP and slackware by the end of the exercise?
[10:50] <Legend_Xeon> Yes. Dual boot :)
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Legend_Xeon: so how does that releate to ubuntu?
[10:51] <dr_willis> Legend_Xeon,  so what live cd are you using right now?
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows a package to real-time view system logs?
[10:52] <Legend_Xeon> Slackware 13.37 x86 DVD ISO
[10:52] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  you can do 'tail -f /var/log/XXXXXXX'  or theres other logviewer apps out there.
[10:52] <Guest23653> hey i knw this is off topic but is a server board any good for gaming especially the ones with to cpu`s?
[10:52] <Guest23653> two*
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: tnx
[10:52] <dr_willis> Legend_Xeon,  see what fdisk says about the drive. slackware is not ubuntu related you know. :)
[10:52] <wols> Guest23653: ##hardware. identify to nickserv first
[10:53] <Guest23653> does anyone know?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Legend_Xeon: slackware isn't supported here. This is ubuntu support only]
[10:53] <wces> lotuspsychje: gnome-system-log if you prefer GUI
[10:53] <karthick87> How to set password for my samba share?
[10:53] <dr_willis> Guest23653,  games are more GPU limited these days the CPU limited.. so i doubt if it will matter much..
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest23653: for games you want a big GPU, not so much processing
[10:53] <Legend_Xeon> dr_willis, maybe this problem is related to cfdisk. Should i retort to gpart.
[10:53] <Legend_Xeon> i see
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[10:53] <Legend_Xeon> Thanks anyways
[10:54] <dr_willis> karthick87,  for what share?   you can set a default users samba password with the command above.
[10:54] <Guest23653> thx guys ur the best
[10:54] <wces> Legend_Xeon: Retiorting won't work ;)
[10:54] <jakeriver> what should i do to get usb-modeswitch to work?
[10:54] <Viking667> really quick question:  Natty, grub2, and I want to change the grub2 background image. startupmanager doesn't show me any options to change the background that I can see, unless I'm not looking in the right place. Any hints?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> jakeriver: if you run:  lsusb   then you will get an 8 character hex ID which can find you guides
[10:55] <dr_willis> Viking667,  check the grub2 docs/wiki pages. You can ghange it by editing the config files.
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: tnx for the trick, terminal showing nicely logs in realtime
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Splashimages.html
[10:55] <Viking667> meh. Was wondering if there was a Ubuntu front end program to do that...
[10:55] <Guest23653> now i cant wait for the am3+ cpus to come out for sever imma make a 16 core beast
[10:55] <Viking667> but I'll take a look at that page. I was afraid of that.
[10:55] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  theres  some color-tail tools out also to make the logs colorized.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: why, it's not hard. Just backup the files before you play
[10:55] <dr_willis> !info color-tail
[10:55] <dr_willis> hmm what was it called..
[10:56] <Viking667> ... and the files get _replaced_ when the packages get updated.
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: im pretty happy already with my transparant terminal : )
[10:56] <dr_willis> Viking667,  like haing a image you see for just a few seconds is worth that much effort.. :) but learning GRUB2 is worth the effort.
[10:56] <Viking667> ... I could probably put a change into /etc/default/grub
[10:56] <jakeriver> ActionParsnip: i got the hex ID but what should i do now?
[10:56] <karthick87> ActionParsnip: I have already executed that command. When i access my samba share from another machine. Its prompting for only password, i am not able to enter username there..
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> jakeriver: use it in websearches
[10:56] <dr_willis> Viking667,  ive seen scripts/tools that sync the users wallpaper and grub2 background images :)
[10:56] <Viking667> well, the image supplied is already quite nice, but i wanted to replace it.
[10:56] <Viking667> ...
[10:57] <jakeriver> ActionParsnip: ofcourse, sorry :)
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: from what OS are you connecting to it with?
[10:57] <Viking667> I'll go look up that webpage.
[10:57] <dr_willis> Viking667,  and the grub2 configs do NOT get replaced when upgraded. unless you tell it to do so.
[10:57] <karthick87> ActionParsnip: Windows XP
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: map a network drive and you can specify username and password
[10:58] <iCHoZeN> hi bitches!
[10:58] <hiexpo> dr_willis, what makes deadbeef so special   like over audacious     :0
[10:58] <oCean> iCHoZeN: do you have a support question?
[10:58] <wrek-gar> http://paste.debian.net/120234/ <- anyone?
[10:58] <dr_willis> hiexpo,  no idea. i rarely listen to muzak.
[10:58] <dr_willis> talk radio :)
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: does tail -f (follow) work for all txt based logs?
[10:58] <karthick87> ActionParsnip: No other way? have a look at my samba setup pls http://paste.ubuntu.com/628726/
[10:59] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje, should work for any text file
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: sweet
[10:59] <wols> !info hostapd
[10:59] <wols> wrek-gar: that's what you want
[10:59] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  a few years back 'colorized logs in a transparent root terminal' window was a big 'eyecandy thing'
[11:00] <hiexpo> dr_willis, oh was ActionParsnip that said it was weet sorry
[11:00] <wces> dr_willis: Can I colorize the tail -f output?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i still love that stuff (transparant xchat and terminal
[11:00] <dr_willis> wces,  theres tools to do it - yes
[11:00] <iCHoZeN> anyone know how to modify GRUB2 on 11.04?
[11:01] <dr_willis> I find transparent apps annoying. :)
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: that's how I do it, it should ask for a username like this: http://lis.luther.edu/files/learn_NetworkShare_4.jpg
[11:01] <dr_willis> !info colortail
[11:01] <dr_willis> colordiff - tool to colorize 'diff' output   <------------- handy
[11:01] <wces> ubottu: thank you
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> lets try that :p
[11:02] <dr_willis> supercat - program that colorizes text for terminals and HTML
[11:02] <wces> dr_willis: thanks
[11:02] <dr_willis> multitail - view multiple logfiles windowed on console
[11:02] <dr_willis> dozens of similer apps in the repos
[11:03] <dr_willis> root-tail - Displays select log files in the X root window
[11:03] <iCHoZeN> modify GRUB2 on 11.04? ='(
[11:03] <dr_willis> iCHoZeN,  alter the config files as needd.. rerun update-grub.
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: what about rss tail :p
[11:03] <dr_willis> !grub2 | iCHoZeN
[11:03] <[elvis]> hi! after  years of linux-lessness, i´ll switch back today. i´m wondering why the Ubuntu32-Bit-Download is "recommended" on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download? Are there any drawbacks using the 64bit-version?
[11:04] <dr_willis> [elvis],  idiot proofing :) if you know the differance.. use what you need.
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> [elvis]: i use natty 64 and im real happy with it, yes recommended
[11:04] <dr_willis> [elvis],  a few  minor issues can exist on 64bit.
[11:04] <wces> [elvis]: I am on 64 bit natty
[11:04] <BlouBlou> [elvis]: Because if you don't know what to use, 32bit will work surelly, but not 64-bits
[11:04] <dr_willis> [elvis],  bottom line - use what suites you and your hardware.
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> [elvis]: some 3rd parties only support 32bit (some printer drivers and such)
[11:04] <iCHoZeN> yep i know what is grub2 i want to customize the grub
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> iCHoZeN: in what way?
[11:05] <BlouBlou> [elvis]: If you know that your PC will use 64-bits, use it then
[11:05] <naxa> [elvis], i also think that it's just the equivalent of "if you're unsure please select 32bit..."
[11:05] <dr_willis> iCHoZeN,  so edit the grub2 configs.
[11:05] <iCHoZeN> theme?
[11:05] <dr_willis> actual question?
[11:05] <naxa> [elvis], although i never had a 64 bit cpu
[11:05] <dr_willis> Grub2 on ubuntu - dosent support 'themes' as far as ive seen.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> iCHoZeN: http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Splashimages.html
[11:05] <[elvis]> i started in ´99 with SuSE 6.1 , there where no 64bit-desktop-pc´s :-)
[11:05] <dr_willis> changeing the background image is doable.
[11:05] <dr_willis> [elvis],  its came a long way
[11:05] <Viking667> whew. I'm done, I think.
[11:06] <Viking667> made it easy.
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> don't see the point in theming grub, its on the screen all of 2 seconds
[11:06] <karthick87> Actionparsnip: It is asking for username and password, but i am not able to enter username coz it is greyed out..
[11:06] <wces> I have a wubi linux, but after kernel updates wubi cannot read my grub.cfg and drops into command-line, what might be the reason for that?
[11:06] <Viking667>  /etc/default/grub, BACKGROUND_IMAGE="/here/is/the/image"; update-grub
[11:06] <[elvis]> so, thank you very much, i´ll try the 64bit version, i don´t think that i need special drivers.
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: weird, all I can suggest is mapping the drive. Could try restarting the smbd service
[11:06] <iCHoZeN> watch this --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBCR0jVzMFs
[11:06] <dr_willis> Viking667,  i alwqays set mine to be /boot/grub/image.png   so i can easially find/change it.
[11:06] <Valieroth> Anyone that knows how to get a VPN client working when all i have is WICD? Kvpnc doesnt wanna play with me :S
[11:07] <iCHoZeN> i need a tut for 11.04
[11:07] <Viking667> yup yup, only problem is, I would need to remember to copy it in all the time.
[11:07] <Viking667> anyhow, I'm off. Thanks for the help
[11:07] <dr_willis> Viking667,  copy what in it? :)
[11:07] <szal> too late ;)
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> iCHoZeN: that's burg, which isn't grub no r is it supported here
[11:07] <dr_willis> !burg
[11:07] <dr_willis> so unsupported.. theres not even a factoid on it. :)
[11:08] <szal> !info burg
[11:08] <iCHoZeN> yep burg but doesnt work on 11.04
[11:08] <dr_willis> ive not heard a lot of good things about Burg
[11:08] <wces> !grub
[11:08] <dr_willis> ive never had it work on other releases either
[11:08] <bhghh> new to ubuntu. still feels a bit like a work in progress. unfinished.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> iCHoZeN: BURG is not discussed here
[11:08] <dr_willis> bhghh,  comptueres and operating systems are always a work in progress..
[11:09] <iCHoZeN> where?
[11:09] <bhghh> no easily acessible program list like windows start menu
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: colortail looks very nice tnx
[11:09] <dr_willis> bhghh,  what release are you using? theres a list at the top left..  windows 8 is also going  away from the start-menu route.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> iCHoZeN: #burg maybe
[11:09] <bhghh> i have a problem. i downloaded 3 programs unhide, chkrootkit and rkthunter but cant find them in any installed program list
[11:09] <wces> Wubi problem: grub drops into commandline mode unable to read grub.cfg, I've to manually type in the grub load commands then it works
[11:10] <cna> ubottu,  simply type in the console: grub update
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> iCHoZeN: considering its on the screen very little, why would you want to use a 3rd party app when the official and supported app does the job?
[11:10] <bhghh> someone said they run from console gnome but what is that when its at home and where do i find it
[11:10] <cna> :)
[11:10] <wols> bhghh: last two are only on console so they don't show in any menu
[11:10] <wols> bhghh: open a x terminal and run them there
[11:10] <wols> bhghh: like in windows if you open cmd.exe
[11:10] <bhghh> i have unity from a mag.
[11:10] <dr_willis> bhghh,  time to learn some terminal skills it seems like. start by running 'gnome-terminal' and pin it to the launcher.. you will want  quick access to it.
[11:10] <szal> cna: 1. you were talking to a bot; 2. you were talking nonsense
[11:11] <ashwin> I copied everything in my home folder and reinstalled kubuntu.How can i replace new home folder by old one?
[11:11] <wols> ashwin: just copy it over
[11:11] <dr_willis> ashwin,  copy it back. as root if needed.. and chown it to be owned by yiour new user.
[11:11] <bhghh> can i find gnome terminal in search
[11:11] <wols> ashwin: and log out and log in again
[11:11] <dr_willis> bhghh,  type in gnome-terminal   and yes...
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> bhghh: press CTRL+ALT+T and it will run
[11:11] <iCHoZeN> CTRL + ALT + T
[11:11] <benonsoftware> Anything I could help with?
[11:11] <dr_willis> bhghh,  or alt-f2 gnome-terminal
[11:11] <bhghh> ah thanks doing it now
[11:11] <wols> bhghh: gnome terminal is in your "start menu"
[11:11] <ashwin> no is not coping
[11:12] <iCHoZeN> applications -> accesories >terminal
[11:12] <wols> ashwin: then there is an error you need to tell us
[11:12] <bhghh> ok
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/colortail.png/
[11:12] <bhghh> have terminal up
[11:12] <pksadiq> wols: start menu ? :o
[11:12] <cna> was typed as a note:)
[11:12] <bhghh> what do i type in it
[11:12] <wols> pksadiq: note the quotes?
[11:12] <cna> I saw
[11:12] <cna>  
[11:12] <dr_willis> bhghh,  whatever command/tool you were wanting to use.
[11:12] <wols> bhghh: r"khunter" for example
[11:13] <pksadiq> wols: well, still thinking of windows ? ;)
[11:13] <dr_willis> !terminal | bhghh
[11:13] <wols> "rkhunter"
[11:13] <bhghh> ok thanks
[11:13] <wces> !rkhunter
[11:13] <bhghh> oh yes a list of commands for it came up
[11:13] <wols> pksadiq: if you are in a hole, stop digging. you dig mighty fast right now. do you have a ubuntu related problem?
[11:13] <ashwin> access denied /home/ashwin/.kde/share/apps/kate/plugins
[11:14] <bhghh> is it running in background auto or do i need to 'turn it on'
[11:14] <wces> !dig
[11:14] <sarit> how does modprobe know to load "i2c-piix4.ko" when I type "modprobe i2c_piix4"?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> sarit: its the same name
[11:14] <wols> sarit: it has a list of all modules for the kernel made with depmod -a
[11:14] <dr_willis> want the classic menu in Unity ---> http://www.florian-diesch.de/software/classicmenu-indicator/
[11:14] <Valieroth> ...
[11:14] <odix> can someone help me get thsi box online
[11:15] <odix> im in the command line
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> odix: how do you connect?
[11:15] <wols> odix: how do you intend to connect?
[11:15] <odix> its ubuntu server edition...plesae...been trying for hours... its dhcp
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> odix: wired or wireless............
[11:15] <odix> thernet chord is connected
[11:15] <odix> wired
[11:15] <sarit> almost the same name... slight difference: underscore and dash...
[11:15] <wols> odix: ifconfig -a
[11:15] <bhghh> just one thing. y does windows have registry keys and ubuntu doesnt. what do they do that ubuntu doesnt need
[11:15] <wces> odix: dhcp server or client?
[11:15] <bigmahatma> I cannot visit a certain url, while it is accessible by another computer on the my wifi lan. WHY???
[11:15] <odix> it says
[11:15] <odix> lo
[11:15] <odix> and eth0
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> odix: ok, if you run:  sudo lshw -C network     you can view the product line for the wired connection, what does it say?
[11:16] <wols> bhghh: windows is OLD. and the registry is not exactly good engineering. gnome has something similar in gconf but smaller in scope
[11:16] <wols> odix: and sudo dhclient eth0   does what?
[11:16] <odix> says pci sysfs
[11:16] <odix> thast it
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> odix: wait a while, it will give text
[11:16] <dr_willis> windows smashed all the old 'individual config files' into one  disaster of a single config file. :)
[11:16] <odix> oh
[11:16] <odix> then DISABLED
[11:17] <wces> bigmahatma: try doing tracepath url
[11:17] <odix> thernet interface disabled
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> odix: yes but what is the product line?
[11:17] <wols> !errors | bigmahatma
[11:17] <bhghh> hmm should have studied more. i was put off computers for life after someone gave me a spectrum 48k and a book on machine code and assembly language
[11:17] <odix> vt6120
[11:17] <bigmahatma> wols: nothing to paste, it just says connection refused
[11:17] <bhghh> yuk
[11:17] <odix> gigabit ethernet adapter
[11:17] <szal> !enter | odix
[11:18] <odix> sorry, why is it disabled ?
[11:18] <wces> bigmahatma: Is the other machine on the same network?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> odix: well we can see now, give me a sec
[11:18] <bigmahatma> wces: yes
[11:18] <[elvis]> bye and thanks
[11:18] <dr_willis> bhghh,  i stll jhave a timex sinclare. :)
[11:19] <bhghh> wow
[11:19] <bigmahatma> wces: tracepath says "gethostbyname2: unknown host", but it does the same also with google.com
[11:19] <wces> bigmahatma: and you are able to connect to it from other hosts?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> odix: try:   sudo ifup eth0
[11:19] <wols> bigmahatma: your DNS is broken then. do you use dhcp?
[11:19] <bigmahatma> wces: yes
[11:19] <odix> ukmown interface
[11:20] <bigmahatma> if my dns is borken, why can the other PC visit the site?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> odix: ok what is the output of:  lsb_release -d
[11:20] <sarit> odix: module not loaded?
[11:20] <wols> bigmahatma: the dns setup on that machine is
[11:20] <odix> 11.04
[11:20] <bhghh> ok the list of commands in the terminal have come up for rootkit hunter. eg -v, --version   display version number, then exit. sorry to sound stupid but is that what you type in -v. is the program now running in the console
[11:21] <wces> bigmahatma: Is there some firewall running on the server?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> odix: found this: http://www.viaarena.com/displaydrivers.aspx?Drivers.aspx?PageID=1&OSID=35&CatID=2860&SubCatID=130&Old=1
[11:21] <bigmahatma> wols: it's set to automatic, so it should work
[11:21] <wols> ActionParsnip: if there is no eth0 entry in interfaces.... hence why I asked for dhclient0
[11:21] <bigmahatma> wces: no
[11:21] <wols> bigmahatma: nslookup google.com
[11:21] <wols> *dhclient eth0  rather
[11:22] <odix> so i just need drivers ?
[11:22] <Chillance> I got stutter and bad quality when rendering x264 movies using kdenlive 0.8... so, I uninstalled pulseaudio.. and have no sound
[11:22] <wols> ActionParsnip: don't give out bad advice like this please
[11:22] <odix> ubuntu doesnt have them ?
[11:22] <wols> odix: no
[11:22] <bigmahatma> wols: wols nslookup works both with google and with my site
[11:22] <wols> bigmahatma: and telnet google.com 80  ?
[11:22] <dr_willis> why does everyone think 'removeing pulse audio' is a fix? :)
[11:22] <odix> ok...so im confused...i just want to be able to get on the internet htats all, this is weird usually ubuntu does this for me.
[11:22] <bigmahatma> wols:  also
[11:22] <szal> Chillance: what's Pulse got to do w/ bad encoding?
[11:22] <wols> odix: I asked you something above, plase answer
[11:23] <Chillance> according to Internet that was the bad guy
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> wols: if the driver isn't loaded then eth0 wouldn't be upable
[11:23] <odix> what did you ask i dont see it ?
[11:23] <bhghh> hmm will fiddle...
[11:23] <Chillance> do you have other suggestions?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> odix: try:   sudo modprobe via-velocity
[11:23] <Chillance> I can reinstall pulseaudio..
[11:23] <wols> ActionParsnip: if the driver i sn't loaded there is no eth0 in the first place, duh
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> wols: yes, hence the link to the driver...
[11:23] <wols> ActionParsnip: but there is a eth0. he told us so
[11:24] <Chillance> I was hoping it would default to ALSO.. but apparently not
[11:24] <Chillance> *ALSA
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> wols: lets see how this goes, according to hadware4linux it uses via-velocity
[11:24] <odix> actionparsnip: that worked...no errors...now ?
[11:24] <wols> ActionParsnip: and before you tell people to download drivers for 5-10 year old common nics, better check there really isn't a driver for it in the kernel...
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> odix: cool, now try: sudo dhclient3 eth0
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> wols: its just something I found, its a step towards the solution
[11:25] <odix> failed to get attributes: no such file or directory for resolv.conf
[11:26] <wols> odix: how did you install that there is no resolv.con? is there really no /etc/resolv.conf? no /etc/resolvconf/ either?
[11:26] <odix> ok not it worked
[11:26] <odix> now*
[11:26] <odix> second tiem i typed it
[11:26] <odix> weird
[11:26] <FloodBot1> odix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:26] <odix> sorry for multiple lines!
[11:27] <odix> im up, thanks
[11:27] <wols> make sure it comes up next time too by writing a proper /etc/network/interfaces entry
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> odix: ok cool, what is the output of:  file /etc/resolv.conf
[11:28] <odix> domain, search. nameserver, nameserver
[11:28] <odix> linksys.com first tweo, 208* ip second to
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> odix: ok cool. I recommend you run:  sudo nano /etc/modules   and at the bottom of the file add a new line with:  via-velocity   and it will load the module at boot
[11:29] <JAdls> Could somebody walk me through this?: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Xfce/Tasklist_fixed_width I don't understand it
[11:29] <wols> < wols> odix: ifconfig -a < odix> it says  < odix> lo < odix> and eth0
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> JAdls: are you using Ubuntu?
[11:30] <JAdls> yes ActionParsnip
[11:30] <bananstol> im having trouble with wireless on ubuntu 11.04, installed ndiswrapper and now ubuntu has wlan0 listed in iwconfig, i can choose network, but when i try to connect to my wireless it comes up a box with "wireless network authentication required." there is a dropdown box labeled "wireless security," but it's grayed out
[11:30] <odix> thanks
[11:30] <wols> bananstol: what wlan chip?
[11:30] <bananstol> wpa2 btw
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> JAdls: portage in Ubuntu?
[11:31] <dr_willis> JAdls,  thats compiling from source with some modifi cations.. none of those directions will work in ubuntu i imagine..
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> odix: all good?
[11:31] <JAdls> idk ┐('～`；)┌ ActionParsnip Im using xfce and I'm trying to get a feature back but i dont understand that guide
[11:31] <odix> yep, now just oing to download xwindows, thanks
[11:31] <wrek-gar> is there something that will display the wireless driver for a usb connected wifi adapter?
[11:31] <dr_willis> JAdls,  you get the proper source. do the edit they want. then compile it.
[11:32] <wols> ActionParsnip: he needs to patch the xfce panel to perform like he wants to. this howto assumes portage but it would (probably) work with apt-get source and patch just as well
[11:32] <bananstol> it's a n agere systems chip
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> odix: why install xwindows on a server?
[11:32] <JAdls> I'm a noob dr_willis
[11:32] <JAdls> I dont understand how
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> wols: makes sense, just curious of the link
[11:32] <dr_willis> JAdls,  i doubt if anyone can walk you through it either.
[11:32] <odix> because i need to, and hm, it wont let me
[11:32] <odix> saying unable to locate
[11:32] <JAdls> why dr_willis
[11:32] <dr_willis> JAdls,  it would proberly take a few hrs to teach you how to do it all..
[11:32] <dr_willis> its not a trivial task
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> odix: why not just install desktop OS?
[11:32] <sarit> JAdls: the ubuntu way to get the source: apt-get source <package>
[11:33] <JAdls> oh
[11:33] <odix> action: cause we screwed up
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> odix: i see
[11:33] <JAdls> Is there an easier way to do that dr_willis ?
[11:33] <wols> JAdls: short version, you get the source of the xfce panel, patch it with the patch shown there (and pray that patch applies cleanly) then create the .deb of xfce panel which you then install and set on hold so nothing else overwrites it
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> odix: I recommend you run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[11:33] <odix> why is nto finding any packages?
[11:33] <dr_willis> JAdls,  i dont use xfce. so no idea. for all we know there may be a checkbox now that does it..
[11:33] <odix> ok..
[11:33] <wols> odix: your sources.list is probably empty since you had no network
[11:33] <dr_willis> JAdls,  ask in #xubuntu and check the xfce channels/homepage
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> odix: you didn't run apt-get update   this updates the packaging knownledge of what is available
[11:34] <JAdls> ok dr_willis
[11:34] <dr_willis> JAdls,  or just get used to the current behaivor.
[11:34] <dr_willis> and put the time into learning more linux fundamentals
[11:34] <benedict> hi, i use conky and see that the speed of my cpu is changign all the time. are such high frequent changes harmful?
[11:34] <bananstol> Agere Wireless Mini PCI Card
[11:34] <wols> bananstol: it has a PCI ID then, which?
[11:35] <sarit> benedict: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_frequency_scaling
[11:35] <dr_willis> benedict,  you dont want the cpu slow when you need it.. :) and you dont want it fast when you dont need it.. so no.. i doubt if its an issue
[11:35] <wols> benedict: no. needed to save power, especially on a notebook
[11:35] <bananstol> 11c1:ab32
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> benedict: should be ok
[11:35] <Sidewinder1> JAdls, If you want to compile in ubuntu please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware?highlight=%28%28CompilingEasyHowTo%29%29
[11:36] <JAdls> I dont understand it at all Sidewinder1 I dont know how to compile let alone follow them steps. I just want that feature back >.<
[11:36] <domenico> hi there
[11:36] <domenico> i need some help
[11:37] <domenico> how can i transfer file from ubuntu to my mac partition?
[11:37] <dr_willis> JAdls,   but is it worth a few hrs of time.. and learning a lot of things...
[11:37] <dr_willis> !hfs+
[11:37] <domenico> is there anybody who could please help me?
[11:37] <inashdeen> hi, need a help, how do u cp a whole directory into another directory using terminal
[11:37] <JAdls> I dont have a few hours dr_willis. Im just trying to get one simple feature back
[11:37] <dr_willis> can ubuntu wrte to hfs+? i dident think it could
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> !hfs
[11:37] <inashdeen> second, how do u create menu entries using existing .desktop using terminal too. great thanks everyone!
[11:38] <BlouBlou> If I install ubuntu 11.10 alpha/beta/or-whatever-version-it-is, will it get updated automatically to final release with normal updates or will I need to reinstall the whole system?
[11:38] <dr_willis> JAdls,  guess you do without.  interfaces/guis change.. thats just how life is.. check the xfce forums there may be a easier way to get the feature back
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: cp -r folder destination folder
[11:38] <sarit> inashdeen: cp -prv /wholedirectory /into/another/directory/
[11:38] <JAdls> hmk dr_willis
[11:38] <dr_willis> JAdls,  for all wee know that Gentoo wiki is outdated and no longer the easy way to fix it.
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: you can make a copy of the file in /usr/share/applications and change the text to do as you wish
[11:38] <JAdls> kk
[11:39] <inashdeen> sarit: what is difference between -prv or -r. which is better?
[11:39] <dr_willis> JAdls,  theres the askubuntu.com site. and the ubuntu forums also  you may want to search, and post the question
[11:39] <sarit> -p preserve file rights -r recursive -v verbose, print filenames
[11:39] <inashdeen> Actionparnsnip: i am thinking of running an auto icon installer using bash. so, how do i do it?
[11:39] <sarit> -prv is equivalent to -p -r -v
[11:40] <dr_willis> auto icon installer? does what exactly inashdeen ?
[11:40] <JAdls> hmm
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: I'd have either a file to copy in, or the text in the script to output to the file.
[11:40] <domenico> is there anybody who could tell me how to transfer files from a partition to another?
[11:40] <domenico> this is my first day on ubuntu and I am having a very hard time
[11:40] <dr_willis> domenico,  what filesystems are the partitions?
[11:41] <JAdls> well dr_willis is there a way to use the old xfce instead of the newer version?
[11:41] <inashdeen> dr_willis : i did this to install my BUC written software. sudo cp ~/fileA/program.mc /usr/bin.   next, i want to have the programA.desktop file in menu
[11:41] <dr_willis> JAdls,  no idea. I dont use xfce at all.. i perfer Lubuntu/lxde.
[11:42] <inashdeen> dr_willis: please dont ask me to use deb. given up tring to use it. besides, i am trying to make the dependencies in .deb files to be installed together
[11:42] <dr_willis> domenico,  macs normally use HFS or HFS+ - i dont own a mac. so no idea if you can write to HFS/HFS+ under ubuntu
[11:42] <inashdeen> Actionparsnip: i dont understand.come again
[11:42] <wols> JAdls: you can install the old one manually. if it works. big if
[11:42] <oliver3> So I'm running the latest Ubuntu on a relatively well powered machine, yet every time I install updates it slows to a crawl. I can't even move the mouse, anyone know if this is a known issue?
[11:42] <domenico> yeah it's an HFS
[11:42] <mark7845> can anyone tell me what command I should use to tell what graphics driver I am currently using?
[11:42] <domenico> what am i supposed to do then?
[11:42] <JAdls> ah
[11:43] <wols> mark7845: glxinfo
[11:43] <oliver3> Relatively well powered is Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 2GB DDR2 RAM @ 1066MHz, ATI Radeon HD 4670 1GB VRAM
[11:43] <dr_willis> inashdeen,  you copy various .desktop files to a users  home like -->  /home/willis/.local/share/applications  if you want the user to have an icon.  theres a system wide directory for a similer task.
[11:43] <wols> oliver3: run "top" besides your updates install and check what is causing the problem. it sounds a bit like non-dma disk access
[11:43] <oliver3> wols, thanks, next time I do an update I'll do that.
[11:44] <dr_willis> domenico,  its very likely you cant write to HFS or HFS+ you should put the file on a NTFS. or some service like dropbox. would be the easy route
[11:44] <oliver3> wols, shocked I didn't think of that myself to be honest
[11:44] <domenico> the only problem is that we are talking about a 35 gb file
[11:44]  * oliver3 checks if DMA is enabled
[11:44] <mark7845> wols: also select the fastest mirror to DL from
[11:44] <dr_willis> domenico,  mac may have some tools to read ext2/3/4
[11:45] <wols> mark7845: what are you refering to? to oliver3's problem? your suggestion is nonsense
[11:45] <dr_willis> I dont own a mac any more. so cant really suggest more.
[11:45] <domenico> mmm
[11:45] <wols> domenico: try a VM. can vbox run OSX guests on a Mac?
[11:45] <mark7845> wols apologies that was for oliver3
[11:45] <wols> mark7845: your suggestion is still nonsense
[11:45] <domenico> yes
[11:46] <mark7845> why?
[11:46] <inashdeen> dr_willis: when i put the .desktop there, where will the icon come in the menu? i am using gnome classic btw
[11:46] <dr_willis> inashdeen,  its supposed to - yes.
[11:46] <wols> mark7845: cause no matter how slow a network mirror is, it doesn't slow down the client machine so it can't move the mouse?
[11:46] <dr_willis> inashdeen,  thats also where all the wine apps get their icons put :)
[11:46] <codinGenesis> :( still unable to download some torrent files in ubuntu but they work exactly fine on win 7 utorrent !!!  Trying from morning to sort this prob out but no success !! :(
[11:47] <jebus> i just installed 11.04 and im trying to pull the backtrack 5 repos, any tips??
[11:47] <mark7845> wols, Sorry I thought it was just DL speed he was talking about. Missed the bit about the mouse.
[11:47] <dr_willis> jebus,  i would suggest not doing that.. you can break ubuntu.
[11:47] <wols> dr_willis: there is no "can" about it, he will break it
[11:47] <jebus> meh, i break it all the time its nothing new
[11:47] <oliver3> wols, whenever I run hdparm on /dev/sda (my primary HDD) I get "* failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device", no matter what the query is
[11:47] <jebus> and im just installing tools
[11:47] <oliver3> wols, don't suppose you know what causes that?
[11:47] <Sidewinder1> !backtrack > jebus
[11:47] <dr_willis> jebus,  then go ahead..  dont expect much support here from it.
[11:48] <stram> i have the new ubuntu, you know, the most annoying one yet, with gnome installed. so i gotta ask, what's the difference between the minimize and close button now?
[11:48] <sundar> hi folks, I'm not able to hibernate my system after the latest update, did anyone else have this problem?
[11:48] <wols> jebus: edit your sources.list with the backtrack repos. but never ask for help here again when it will break. btw: BT5 is very badly made. lots of brokennes, doesn't even boot properly
[11:48] <oliver3> wols, e.g., HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[11:48] <dr_willis> Minimize and close do the same thing they have always done...
[11:48] <wols> oliver3: what SATA controller? what disks, cables all working as they should?
[11:48] <stram> really? i hit close and it minimizes the window.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> stram: they are the same as they have always been...
[11:48] <dr_willis> stram,  they work fine here...
[11:48] <jebus> oh no im not looking for support, just tips...wondering if anyone else has done it, im pretty linux savy...just having problems iwth the keys
[11:48] <stram> it's like i'm on a faggot mac or some shit
[11:48] <dr_willis> check yoru theme i guess...
[11:49] <codinGenesis> would be like my firewall in ubuntu would be preventing this transmission client to work seamlessly  ??
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> stram: are you fully updated?
[11:49] <jebus> ugh i gota get rid of this unity crap
[11:49] <wols> jebus: that is not exactly on topic here. and the tip is easy: don't do stupid things like that
[11:49] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  theres no default firewall rules.. by default
[11:49] <stram> ActionParsnip: why the hell would i update again? isn't this linux? it's a clone of a 1969 operating system called UNIX.
[11:49] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  and how long did you let transmission run?
[11:49] <jebus> wols: whats with the hostility? sorry, i won't bring it up again, didn't mean to cause drama
[11:49] <sarit> jebus: choose Ubuntu classic at the login screen
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> stram: no, like system updates to get the latest packages for your release
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> stram: calm down
[11:50] <stram> what, did they update the "ls" command?
[11:50] <jebus> sarit: haha, i know...forgot to on first login
[11:50] <oliver3> wols, Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) (from lspci), Samsung 640GB SATA II HDD. SATA controller is onboard an Asus P5QL
[11:50] <stram> coreutils has some striking new features?
[11:50] <codinGenesis> dr_willis,  it run well over about an hour !! I tried every possible transmission client but facing prob in all of them...!! :(
[11:50] <jebus> my internet connection is hating life...haha
[11:50] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  for the 1000th time.. its not a 'transmission' client.. its a 'torrent' client...
[11:50] <wols> jebus: we don't like people breaking their ubuntu or installing stuff from other distros. ask #linux about that for example. we only support ubuntu, not backtrack
[11:51] <codinGenesis> sorry "torrent client"
[11:51] <Sidewinder1> codinGenesis, I don't use Transmission, but perhaps you need to configure it to listen on the ports you have opened in your router.
[11:51] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  and ive never noticed a simile rissue in any of them.    unless your torrent seeds are some how blocking spefific clients.. which is a possibility i guess
[11:51] <stram> you guys should update coreutils, there's a huge problem with it. it actually fucking works
[11:51] <wols> oliver3: if you can, replace the cable? check maybe a knoppix or other live cd to test the connection? do a long smartctl test?
[11:51] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  poste the problem torrent somewhere for us to check out. and lets see if others have simile rissues.
[11:51] <tsimpson> stram: watch your language and attitude in here
[11:51] <jebus> wols: thats understandable...i have a habit of messing with stuff though, thats why ubuntu is so amazing, so is this channel just for support?
[11:51] <oliver3> wols, hdparm -i works, according to that udma6 is enabled
[11:51] <inashdeen> dr_willis: i tried putting it in ~/.local/share/applications, but it doesnt seem to be in my menu. what did i done wrong? and here is the setting in my .desktop :
[11:51] <inashdeen> #!/usr/bin/env xdg-open  [Desktop Entry] Name=record my keyboard Comment=Merekod semua input keyboard anda! Exec=~/.recordmykeyboard-0.1.0/recordmykeyboard Icon=/usr/share/recordmykeyboard/icons/recordmykeyboard.png Terminal=false Type=Application StartupNotify=true Categories=GNOME;GTK;Accessories;Security; Name[en_US]=Record my keyboard.desktop
[11:52] <stram> you know, there was a time when i thought i didn't have to do tedious shit myself, like install linux from scratch
[11:52] <dr_willis> inashdeen,  you may need to somehow refresh the menus.
[11:52] <stram> but ubuntu manages to prove me wrong every fucking time
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> stram: you don't
[11:52]  * dr_willis waves bye.
[11:52] <wols> oliver3: but "HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" says otherwise :)
[11:52] <codinGenesis> dr_willis,  this is the link of that torrent   -     http://torrentz.eu/784b9ec23f276a46f0b2dc19ff248287b82062f6
[11:53] <jebus> anyone have any experience with using yubikeys on ubuntu?
[11:53] <sundar> hi all, the hibernate option has gone off from my session menu, and cmd line hibernate commands are also not working... any suggestions please?
[11:53] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  its working in transmission here.
[11:54] <oliver3> wols, okay I'll try switching the cable when I get the time, thanks for your help.
[11:54] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  from -> http://www.torrentdownloads.net/torrent/1652893799/Linux+Format+-+August+2011
[11:54] <wols> oliver3: it might not be the cable. can't really say what it is, I just suggested things to try to pinpoint the problem
[11:54] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  its done. :)
[11:54] <codinGenesis> is the file downloading and are u getting speed ???
[11:54] <oliver3> wols, yeah I know. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.
[11:55] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  its alrleady done downloaded....
[11:55] <dr_willis> was only 66mb.
[11:56] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  so in 11.04 - transmission - did work..
[11:56] <dr_willis> bbl - gotta run to the store.
[11:56] <codinGenesis> dr_willis,  downloaded from that site but still it doesn't works in transmission...
[11:57] <codinGenesis> no seeds
[11:57] <oliver3> wols, oh... apparently SATA drives don't use DMA/UDMA anyway...
[11:57] <codinGenesis> everything is zero ....
[11:57] <dr_willis> i am seeding to 5 people here..
[11:57] <codinGenesis> there might be some prob wiith my ubuntu installation ???
[11:57] <oliver3> wols, which is probably why hdparm reports it as unsupported.
[11:57] <wols> oliver3: they sure do. it's named differently but they definitely don't ues programmed IO :)
[11:57] <dr_willis> bbl. gotta get some foods.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> codinGenesis: does your router support upnp?
[11:58] <drbobb> WTF, all of a sudden I can't switch off the damn touchpad on my lenovo
[11:58] <oliver3> wols, not programmed, but not DMA either. Apparently DMA was just used on PATA devices.
[11:58] <Romney12> Like individual mandate Obamacare, an agressive foreign policy, and the rest of Barack Obama's policies?  Are you nervous around Black people but still like Obama's policies?  Then vote for Mitt Romney, the White Barack Obama!
[11:58] <wols> drbobb: BIOS always can. and that's the only place you want to do it :)
[11:58] <codinGenesis> dr_willis,  i am getting an error that tracker didn't respond
[11:58] <drbobb> wols: it used to work not long ago!!
[11:58] <wols> oliver3: they do, cause there are only two choices: use busmaster DMA or programmed IO via the CPU, and no SATA disk want to use PIO
[11:58] <codinGenesis> ActionParsnip,  i don't have router it is connected to modem
[11:59] <Sidewinder1> !ot > Romney12
[11:59] <drbobb> wols: there's a key combo to toggle the pad on/off, and it was working
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> codinGenesis: ah, that takes that complexity out of the equation
[11:59] <codinGenesis> is there ny solution ???
[11:59] <sarit> oliver3: wols is right about this :-) my SATA drive currently uses udma6
[11:59] <codinGenesis> is there some prob with my ubuntu installation ??
[12:00] <oliver3> sarit, wols okay I'll have to do more research into it :P
[12:00] <knoppies> I want to run synergyc klap.local when the login prompt loads (so that I can type in my password and hit enter). Does anybody know how to get a this (or a shell script) to run at the login window?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> codinGenesis: tried other clients?
[12:01] <codinGenesis> i tried possibly all the other clients facing similar prob !!1
[12:01] <codinGenesis> but similar torrent file works totally fine on windows
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> codinGenesis: yikes, is your provider throttling torrents?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> i see
[12:02] <drbobb> urrrgh I'm totally unable to type with the *%@## touchpad on
[12:02] <codinGenesis> it might be due to changes in the firewall settings ???
[12:03] <wols> codinGenesis: there is no firewall settings by default. sudo iptables -L  to see for yourself
[12:03] <Joker09> #ubuntu-pl
[12:04] <codinGenesis> should i install ubuntu again ???
[12:05] <wols> codinGenesis: no
[12:05] <illmortal> Anyone know how to install a Linksys AE1000 driver? I'm following a few different tutorials.. I can see it in my list of network adapters.. but seems like it doesn't pick up my wireless network
[12:05] <codinGenesis> what should i do i can't understand, i have lots of things to be get downloaded form torrentz
[12:06] <wols> illmortal: what wlan chip does it use?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> illmortal: if you run:  lsusb  you will get a hex ID, what is it?
[12:07] <codinGenesis> do proxy settings affect torrent clients ??
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> codinGenesis: could try a windows client in wine
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> codinGenesis: yes they will
[12:07] <illmortal> hmm.. not sure what you're asking..  I just know the module is a rt2870sta
[12:08] <codinGenesis> but as i enable proxy i am unable to log into ubuntu servers, they tell u are banned because you have open proxy
[12:08] <codinGenesis> i am stuck from both the sides...
[12:08] <illmortal> ActionParsnip: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 13b1:002f Linksys AE1000 v1 802.11n [Ralink RT2870]
[12:10] <wols> codinGenesis: depends on the kind of proxy. e.g. a http proxy doesn't
[12:11] <wols> codinGenesis: then I suggest you fix your proxy configuration. running an open proxy is very very bad and can get you in legal trouble
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:11] <tjiggi_fo> illmortal, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1761697
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> illmortal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1621022   seems comprehensive
[12:13] <password> îõ ëîë
[12:14] <oCean> !ru | password
[12:14] <codinGenesis> wols: how to correct those things...??
[12:14] <wols> codinGenesis: depends on the proxy you use
[12:14] <codinGenesis> how can i know which proxy i am using ??
[12:15] <password> I hate ubuntu =)
[12:15] <shiftingcontrol> My 11.04 fails to boot mbr,grub doesn't display menu option .what can i do ?error message http://askubuntu.com/questions/49223/grub-doesnt-load-in-11-04
[12:15] <wols> < codinGenesis> but as i enable proxy i am unable to log into ubuntu servers, <- you apparently know how to enable it. so either you or someone you can contact can fix the config
[12:15] <BlouBlou> password: ubuntu hates you
[12:15] <password> BlouBlou aahhaahah XD
[12:16] <password> BlouBlou +1
[12:16] <oCean> password: do you have a support question?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> shiftingcontrol: what if you hold shift at boot?
[12:16] <codinGenesis> wols: i just tried myself with network settings and got the thing working but technically i don't know, how and what works
[12:16] <shiftingcontrol> ActionParsnip: I haven't tried
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> username as password is a bit of a headjob
[12:16] <password> oCean no =\
[12:16] <bazhang> password, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[12:17] <shiftingcontrol> ActionParsnip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/49223/grub-doesnt-load-in-11-04 here is my problem
[12:17] <password> bazhang =)
[12:17] <Mikey1337> What kind of pass is bazhang ?
[12:17] <sarit> shiftingcontrol: something's wrong inside your initrd scripts
[12:18] <shiftingcontrol> sarit:yes yes,if i replace initrd scripts manually it will work ?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> shiftingcontrol: all I can suggest is boot to liveCD to reinstate grub2
[12:18] <password> of here are big and clever uncle
[12:18] <sarit> shiftingcontrol: replace with what? initrd scripts from a similar machine, similar install: probably yes
[12:18] <Mikey1337> you need to reinstate grub2
[12:19] <shiftingcontrol> ActionParsnip: i tried that too "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/d56c75ad-4527-4115-97d9-b17524084651/boot/dev/sda" this one failed
[12:19] <password> bazhang not to do =)
[12:19] <wols> shiftingcontrol: your problem is not grub
[12:19] <sarit> don't think grub is the issue here, as the boot process is already loading the kernel and the initrd
[12:19] <shiftingcontrol> and i replaced root-directory with boot-directory too
[12:20] <bazhang> password, thats enough. stop.
[12:20] <shiftingcontrol> wols: then ?
[12:20] <wols> the creation of your initial ramdisk is
[12:20] <shiftingcontrol> Mikey1337: how to do that ,i tried too
[12:20] <password> bazhang I just told the truth
[12:21] <shiftingcontrol> wols:initrd fails ,
[12:21] <Mikey1337> shifting control : you want to reinstate grub2 ?
[12:21] <sarit> shiftingcontrol: boot the pc with a livecd, usb or something else, mount root file system, use mkinitrd to rebuild your initrd
[12:21] <Mikey1337> yes !!!
[12:21] <shiftingcontrol> Mikey1337,sarit:right now i am using 11.04 from liveusb ,now what should i do ?
[12:22] <Mikey1337> live cd, mount root, mkinitrd
[12:22] <shiftingcontrol> and i mounted
[12:22] <sarit> chroot into the directory you mounted your root filesystem
[12:22] <wols> Mikey1337: and this works without a chroot?
[12:22] <Mikey1337> shifting control what is your main objective here ?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> shiftingcontrol: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[12:23] <sarit> btw, if you have a separate /boot partition, make sure you mounted that one too
[12:23] <shiftingcontrol> Mikey1337: i want to boot my pc normally
[12:23] <kkkspppp> hi
[12:23] <kkkspppp> neone understand ubuntu commands
[12:24] <bazhang> kkkspppp, ask a real question
[12:24] <kkkspppp> i am trying to gain root priveledges with su in console
[12:24] <Mikey1337> so your saying its all jacked up huh.... anything missing in the boot ?
[12:24] <szal> kkkspppp: and speak real English ;)
[12:24] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  use sudo, not su
[12:24] <bazhang> !sudo > kkkspppp
[12:24] <kkkspppp> it asks for password which i type in
[12:24] <Goliath> hey
[12:24] <password> oh
[12:25] <Mikey1337> most systems have default as root/toor
[12:25] <Goliath> where are the config files to start daemons in ubuntu
[12:25] <Goliath> ?
[12:25] <kkkspppp> the logon password (which doesnt appear, the cursor doesnt even move actually) but it says wrong passworld
[12:25] <szal> password: lol, nick fail :P
[12:25] <oCean> Mikey1337: don't be silly
[12:25] <dr_willis> Goliath,  /etc/init for the most part. see the service command
[12:25] <io> !sudo | kkkspppp
[12:25] <Goliath> dr_willis: what about /etc/rc1.d rc2 etc?
[12:25] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  use sudo not su. and of course the password dosent echo back
[12:25] <kkkspppp> i have set up ubuntu i am trying to run rkthunter
[12:25] <wols> Goliath: those are simply links
[12:25] <dr_willis> Goliath,  those are the old sysv init scripts. if you look. most are actuaklly links to upstart /etc/init scripts
[12:26] <Mikey1337> RKY
[12:26] <kkkspppp> so i type su then my logon lspassword which fai
[12:26] <Mikey1337> RKT HUNTER IS GARBAGE !
[12:26] <io> !root | kkkspppp
[12:26] <io> kkkspppp: try reading
[12:26] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  for the 12th time. dont use su use 'sudo'
[12:26] <mikebeecham> Hi all...I have my windows 7 machine communicating to my epson printer on Ubuntu via CUPS. I can print a test page from Windows, but no other document will print. Wold this be a windows or Ubuntu problem?
[12:26] <szal> !caps | mikebeecham
[12:26] <oCean> Mikey1337: when helping, be helpful. That is definitely not helpful
[12:26] <szal> mikebeecham: sry, wrong nick
[12:26] <password> szal =)
[12:26] <mikebeecham> szal, lol
[12:26] <Mikey1337> the entire root kit project is garbage.
[12:26] <kkkspppp> ok then
[12:26] <wols> mikebeecham: depends. check your cups logs first
[12:26] <dr_willis> !info rkhunter
[12:26] <kkkspppp> can i get a rootkit in ubunt
[12:26] <mikebeecham> wols, would you mind point me to where I can look?
[12:27] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  install it. run it via sudo.
[12:27] <kkkspppp> thats y i changed from windows
[12:27] <wols> mikebeecham: /var/log/
[12:27] <kkkspppp> ok thanks
[12:27] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  you may want to spend some time learning Linux basics...
[12:27] <wols> kkkspppp: yes there are linux rootkits
[12:27] <kkkspppp> where are the basics tutorials
[12:27] <kkkspppp> online are there any
[12:27] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  1000;s of sites out there. You may want to check the delicious.com tags for what people suggest
[12:28] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  of course theres some online.. 1000000's of them.
[12:28] <dr_willis> !terminal | kkkspppp
[12:28] <sarit> shiftingcontrol: does the chroot thing work?
[12:28] <dr_willis> start with terminal basics. :)
[12:28] <kkkspppp> aah ok.
[12:28] <kkkspppp> what is difference just out of curiosity between su and sudo
[12:28] <dr_willis> !sudo
[12:28] <Goliath> dr_willis: ok i am in /etc/init . which file shows which daemons start on boot?
[12:28] <dr_willis> su switches users.
[12:28] <kkkspppp> ah
[12:28] <dr_willis> Goliath,  there is no one file. if its in there.. it starts.
[12:29] <kkkspppp> right
[12:29] <kkkspppp> ok thanks
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> kkkspppp: su switches the user to the user you specify, sudo gives your user admin access (assuming it is in the 'admin' group)
[12:29] <dr_willis> Goliath,  unless the spefific file has a option to not run
[12:29] <dr_willis> !upstart
[12:29] <perlsyntax> How do i get 3D to work wit a geforce card ?
[12:29] <perlsyntax> i download the driver.
[12:29] <kkkspppp> i can access my windows files in ubuntu. will they work? i havent tried yet but am about to
[12:29] <dr_willis> perlsyntax,  use the addational-drivers tool to install the drivers is the normal way
[12:30] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  work as in how?
[12:30] <Sidewinder1> kkkspppp, Please see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=338
[12:30] <Goliath> dr_willis: you know i am used in arch where in rc.conf there is an array listing all the daemons that start on boot
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> kkkspppp: yes Ubuntu has full read and write access to NTFS
[12:30] <dr_willis> Goliath,  thats arch speficic. no such things exist in ubuntu,
[12:30] <perlsyntax> where the button to turn on 3D?
[12:30] <dr_willis> perlsyntax,  run 'jockey-gtk'  and enable the drivers
[12:31] <kkkspppp> i plugged in the memory card from my camera into the computer. it has a few photos and a video. in windows they all come up ready to go. but in ubuntu only the photos came up. last question by the way. ne suggestions as to what to do eg link mpeg files to a certain program
[12:31] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  when you double cliock on them.. it should ask.
[12:31] <dr_willis> mpeg should be playable in totem,. or most any video player
[12:31] <Sidewinder1> kkkspppp, Try Totem for mpegs.
[12:31] <mikebeecham> wols, I've performed a nozzle check from windows to ubuntu printer....this log shows up in /var/log/cups
[12:31] <kkkspppp> totem
[12:31] <kkkspppp> ok thanks
[12:32] <Mikey1337> VLC is the way to go
[12:32] <mikebeecham> wols, however, when I try to print a document no command is sent to the printer and therefgore, there is no log created
[12:32] <kkkspppp> i had it on windows do they do linux version
[12:32] <remy> hrj
[12:32] <kkkspppp> vlc
[12:32] <dageriv> I was gonna restore the grub loader because I installed win7 after ubuntu. Now when I boot, I am given the grub prompt, and no boot options. Help?
[12:32] <remy> salut
[12:32] <dr_willis> !info vlc
[12:32] <oCean> !fr | remy
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> !players | kkkspppp
[12:32] <Mikey1337> i have vlc for one of my knoppix clusters
[12:32] <wols> dageriv: how did you restore it?
[12:32] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  explore the package manager system :) yes. vlc is for linux
[12:32] <perlsyntax> This drier is activated but not in use ??
[12:32] <sarit> dageriv: grub-update
[12:32] <dageriv> wols: followed online tutorial
[12:32] <remy> ok
[12:32] <dr_willis> perlsyntax,  you may need to reboot.
[12:33] <kkkspppp> hmm will stick with vlc very good
[12:33] <wols> dageriv: that's niec but doesn't answer my question
[12:33] <Mikey1337> vlc plays everything.
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> !synaptic | kkkspppp
[12:33] <perlsyntax> ok i will
[12:33] <kkkspppp> ok might as well ask whilst here. i play gamevial games which need the unity web player to run online. can this be used in ubunt. i heard you need wine or something whatever that is
[12:33] <kandinski> what's a good terminal that can save its output as a textfile?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Mikey1337: ubuntu uses a central repository of codecs, so whatever vlc can play, the others can too
[12:34] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  never heard of the unity web player. check the wine app database perhaps.
[12:34] <dr_willis> !appdb | kkkspppp
[12:34] <dageriv> wols: I did this: mount /dev/sda7 /mnt;grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[12:34] <wols> ActionParsnip: *cough*
[12:34] <perlsyntax> No luck after i reboot it.
[12:34] <wonka_> what is the ubuntu package with some interesting wave effects?
[12:34] <dr_willis> that was a fast reboot...
[12:34] <wols> dageriv: that's wrong. you need to chroot into your mounted ubuntu install first
[12:35] <Mikey1337> codecs are not all universal, some are app specific.
[12:35] <perlsyntax> dr_willis,In ubuntu 10.10 there was a buttion i push to turn on 3D.
[12:35] <dr_willis> perlsyntax,  10.10 used jockey-gtk also.. to install/enable the drivers...
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: do you mean desktop effects>?
[12:36] <dr_willis> as did most of the releases...
[12:36] <Mikey1337> anyone here use Kopete ?
[12:36] <wols> !fixmbr > dageriv
[12:36] <kkkspppp> and i cant get trusteer rapport to work which was an anti keylogging program that ran in the browser address bar. apparantley wont work with linux. ne thing similar for ubuntu
[12:36] <oCean> !anyone | Mikey1337
[12:36] <sarit> wols: not sure if you really need to chroot to fix grub
[12:36] <perlsyntax> nope i not sure how to turn that desktop effects on.
[12:36] <sarit> wols: afaik grub-update will detect your ubuntu install even if you're not chrooted
[12:37] <dr_willis> You really cant use desktop effects- untill you get the 3d drivers going.
[12:37] <wrek-gar> does anyone have information on setting up hostapd?
[12:37] <wols> sarit: grub-install does too?
[12:37] <sarit> wols: grub-install only installs the grub binary on the MBR, afaik, it doesn't scan for os's to boot
[12:37] <perlsyntax> how do i turn on3D in ubuntu wen the driver is installed?
[12:38] <sarit> wols: I have the habit of running grub-update after grub-install
[12:38] <wols> sarit: grub is more than stage1
[12:38] <nicl> Anyone know how to make speakers turn off when using headphones - ubuntu 11 on a Dell M14X laptop
[12:38] <dr_willis> perlsyntax,  run nvidia-settings tool. does it say the driver is in use?
[12:38] <wols> perlsyntax: you restart X and it works automatically
[12:38] <perlsyntax> how do i do tha
[12:38] <perlsyntax> that
[12:38] <dr_willis> perlsyntax,  what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[12:38] <perlsyntax> 11.04
[12:39] <dr_willis> alt--f2  run nvdia-settings
[12:39] <dr_willis> assuming the drivers are working, you can then enable compiz
[12:39] <dr_willis> which is NOT the same as enableing '3d'
[12:39] <kkkspppp> blimey the libre draw program is a nightmare. i miss good old paint
[12:39] <bigmahatma> I can't visit a URL from my PC, while other PCs on the same network can. "tracepath www.anysite.com" doensn't give any output. "nslookup www.anysite.com" works. What could it be wrong?
[12:39] <sarit> wols: that's why you need grub-update
[12:39] <dr_willis> kkkspppp,  theres proberly a dozen paint type programs out there.
[12:39] <kkkspppp> u have to be a bloomin graphics artist to understand it
[12:40] <Sidewinder1> kkkspppp, To learn more about ubuntu security, please see: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=338
[12:40] <wols> sarit: goodbye. and don't give up your dayjob
[12:40] <perlsyntax> i useing gnome classic.
[12:40] <kkkspppp> ok better learn alot then come back
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> kkkspppp: install gpaint or tuxpaint
[12:40] <dr_willis> !info mtpaint
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: the comamnd I gave will make it work
[12:40] <inashdeen> Dr_willis : hi, dr, thanx for the trick, it did work for my computer, but didnt work in the other. i tried this command:  sudo cp -r ~/recordmykeyboard-0.1.10-installer-pack/main-installer-file/shortcuts/recordmykeyboard.desktop ~/.local/share/applications
[12:40] <kkkspppp> gpaint
[12:40] <sarit> wols: haha
[12:40] <perlsyntax> how do i do that.
[12:41] <kkkspppp> thaks going to security forums ta ta
[12:41] <inashdeen> dr_willis : but it didnt work. cp: cannot stat `/home/ihsan/recordmykeyboard-0.1.10-installer-pack/main-installer-file/shortcuts/recordmykeyboard.desktop': No such file or directory .what might be the prob/
[12:41] <dr_willis> inashdeen,  there was no need for your user to use sudo to copy a file to their own home.
[12:41] <bigmahatma> anyone?
[12:41] <wonka_> how can I fix the mbr when trying to reinstall xp after ubuntu?
[12:41] <dr_willis>  inashdeen  looks like you did some typo   or mistake in the path
[12:41] <wonka_>  fdisk /mbr is not working
[12:41] <wols> !fixmbr > wonka_
[12:41] <wonka_> ok
[12:42] <inashdeen> dr_willis : ok, but why cant i copy the file. this is the path taken directly from "location"in nautilus /home/ihsan/recordmykeyboard-0.1.10-installer-pack/main-installer-file/shortcuts/recordmykeyboard.desktop
[12:43] <dr_willis> inashdeen,  why not just drag/drop it via nautilus?
[12:43] <wols> inashdeen: use tabcomplete to construct the path, you will seen when it errors then
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[12:43] <perlsyntax> it working
[12:43] <inashdeen> wols: what is that
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: sweet
[12:43] <perlsyntax> :D i not use to 11.04
[12:43] <inashdeen> dr-willis : it was suppose to be an autoinstaller running iin bash
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: I suggest you add a startup item to run the command ;)
[12:43] <dr_willis> nautilus has thisneat 'f3' key does a dual pane output. makes it easy to drag/drop things
[12:44] <dr_willis> inashdeen,  looks like you got some typos to me then. or a differnt username...
[12:44] <wols> inashdeen: type "ls /ho" and then press tab and you will see
[12:44] <inashdeen> dr-wills : i dont seem to find th etypo. + i use this on the bash ~/recordmykeyboard..
[12:45] <inashdeen> wols: come again, with detail, i am a newbie
[12:45] <dr_willis> ~ is  a shortcut for /home/YOURCURRENTUSERNAME
[12:45] <dr_willis> which may or may not be what you want
[12:45] <wols> inashdeen: I gave you the exact keys to hit. what more detail do you need?
[12:45] <Trashi> hello. i've a atheros 5001 wlan chip .. after installing madwifi i got a ath0 entry from iwconfig. it is a fujitsu notebook and it has a special wlan key above the keyboard. but ubuntu does not know that key, so i can not activate the wlan. can someone help to enable wlan please?
[12:45] <wols> Trashi: why are you installing madwifi? that's very outdated
[12:46] <wols> Trashi: ath5k has supplanted it long ago
[12:46] <Trashi> wois: so whats the better solution? i just find madwifi with help of ubuntuusers and google ....
[12:46] <wols> Trashi: I just told you
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Trashi: try: sudo rfkill unblock all
[12:47] <inashdeen> wols : no seriously, i dont understand 1 bit. :( type ls/ho where and how? because when i type on terminal, it doesnt give anything
[12:47] <wols> inashdeen: I said type "ls /ho". spaces are IMPORTANT
[12:48] <Trashi> ok so first i'll uninstall madwifi
[12:48] <wols> Trashi: if you even can
[12:49] <obscurant1st> hi is there any way i could use 2 different proxies for 2 different applications at the same time?
[12:49] <wrek-gar> does anyone have information on setting up hostapd?
[12:49] <wols> obscurant1st: sure
[12:49] <Clerisy> How can I remove the unity scrollbar thing? (Note that I already removed unity altogether)
[12:49] <Trashi> wois: and after that? i think there is no ath5k package ?!
[12:49] <dr_willis> some apps have their own proxy settings
[12:49] <obscurant1st> wols, can you please tell me how?
[12:50] <wols> obscurant1st: can't. depends on the proxies and the applications
[12:50] <obscurant1st> dr_willis, i am talking applications like miro transmission, which doesnt have proxy settings,
[12:50] <obscurant1st> wols, ^^
[12:50] <wols> obscurant1st: proxychains
[12:51] <wols> Trashi: ath5k is a driver, present in every ubuntu kernel for years now. you simply plug in the card and it works
[12:51] <dr_willis> I thought miro was based on (somehow) firefox, which does have proxy settings.
[12:51] <obscurant1st> no no i think you mis understood me. the scenario is like while I use 1.2.3.4 for miro i need to use 5.6.7.8 for transmission
[12:51] <Clerisy> How can I remove the unity scrollbar thing? (Note that I already removed unity altogether)
[12:51] <nkarkare_> LTS core module is not running :(
[12:51] <nkarkare_> any help?
[12:51] <inashdeen> wols : ok, here goes, when i try to type ~/recordmykeyboard-0.1.10-installer-pack/main-installer-file/shortcuts/ in terminal, it says bla bla bla is a directory. but when i try to put ~/recordmykeyboard-0.1.10-installer-pack/main-installer-file/shortcuts/recordmykeyboard.desktop , where recordmykeyboard.desktop is the file i want to cp, it says no such file or directory
[12:52] <Trashi> wols:  i wish ... but i did install ubuntu natty and it does NOT work ... thats the reason why i ask ...
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Clerisy: just log in to gnome classic and the desktop will look like Maverick did
[12:52] <Clerisy> ActionParsnip» Im on xfce though
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Trashi: did the command I gave not make it work?
[12:52] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  theres a webupd8 entry that details how. I think i bookmarked it at my http://delicious.com/dr_willis  links today
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Clerisy: didn't think xfce had unity...
[12:52] <obscurant1st> dr_willis, i dont know about that. but there is no options like adding proxy in the preferences of miro
[12:52] <Trashi> ActionParsnip: srry, i did read over ... will try it now
[12:53] <Clerisy> ActionParsnip» the unity scrollbar carried over from when I changed DE's :S
[12:53] <obscurant1st> ActionParsnip, i saw one of your questions regarding using proxy ofr transmission bitorrent client in launchpad, did you manage to do that?
[12:53] <wols> !doesn't work > Trashi
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> obscurant1st: i don't use a proxy but it can be done
[12:54] <Clerisy> hng cant find it dr_willis
[12:55] <nkarkare_> anyone with ubuntu+ncomputing? facing this issue "LTS core module is not running"
[12:55] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I got 11.04 and a custom theme installed which has the window buttons like close and maximize on the right, which doesn't fit nicely into Unity. Any way to move them to the left?
[12:56] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[12:56] <perlsyntax> how do i remove the gnome-panel in 11.04?Iwant touse the cario-dock.
[12:56] <KNUBBIG> ty
[12:56] <Trashi> ActionParsnip: nice .. it really enables the wlan .. thanks .. could you explain how to make it automaticly onboot?
[12:57] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlay-scrollbar-0.1-0
[12:57] <dr_willis> to remove the overlay scrollbar.. one of the nicer features  i think of 11.04
[12:57] <Clerisy> dr_willis» can you find it?
[12:58] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  it was there on the webupd8 blogs.
[12:58] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[12:58] <Clerisy> ah
[12:58] <perlsyntax> anyone know how to remove the gnome-panel??
[12:58] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-disable-overlay-scrollbars-in.html
[12:58] <dr_willis> i just move it to the top and auto-hide it.
[12:59] <perlsyntax> how do i do that?
[12:59] <obscurant1st> Did somebody reply me while I was gone?
[12:59] <obscurant1st>  ActionParsnip, i saw one of your questions regarding using proxy ofr transmission bitorrent client in launchpad, did you manage to do that?
[13:00] <wols> obscurant1st:  < ActionParsnip> obscurant1st: i don't use a proxy but it can be done
[13:00] <wols> obscurant1st: I told you what to use. IIRC torrents use tcp only, so it's doable with proxychains
[13:01] <Sidewinder1> !nickspam > ohmy12345
[13:02] <obscurant1st> wols, oh ok. Thanks. Can you explain it a little more! I am not getting the idea, how proxy chaining is helpful when I cannot even add one single proxy to an application which does not have the option to proxify it
[13:02] <wols> obscurant1st: have you checked out proxychains?
[13:02] <Clerisy> thanks dr_willis
[13:02] <wols> read its description and such?
[13:03] <Udonnome> guys where i can find the latest version of ubuntu?
[13:03] <obscurant1st> wols, sorry i thought you were telling me about the proxy chaining, in which we chain multiple proxies to increase the anonimity
[13:03] <wols> at ubuntu.com
[13:03] <bazhang> Udonnome, www.ubuntu.com
[13:03] <Udonnome> thank you
[13:03] <obscurant1st> thatnks wols now i got it. its the application right?
[13:04] <krisss117> #join
[13:04] <krisss117> hi, i java proces kill my cpu, it use 100%
[13:05] <krisss117> it is normal ?
[13:05] <krux> kill -9 PID#
[13:05] <krisss117> i run jDownloader
[13:05] <krisss117> yes, i won't kill
[13:05] <krisss117> it's normal - java using 100% cpu ?
[13:06] <wols> depends how the application is written. can be normal
[13:06] <obscurant1st> krisss117, no its not normal
[13:06] <codinGenesis> even somtimes my cpu gets mad and uses 100 %
[13:06] <krisss117> when i turn off jDownloader then java still running and use 100% cpu
[13:07] <krisss117> have u any idea ?
[13:07] <codinGenesis> krisss117: i also face similar problem, even after exiting the application cpu is 100 % so for that usualy i reboot my computer
[13:08] <rubydiamond> Does this http://pastie.org/private/z8am0ekjfz7syhbez7cza look like a correct cron job
[13:08] <codinGenesis> or ending that program from system monitor might also help you...
[13:08] <krisss117> so u dont help my :/
[13:08] <rubydiamond> that fails that cron fails with message
[13:08] <rubydiamond> (CRON) error (grandchild #29850 failed with exit status 127)
[13:08] <Udonnome> guys,need a little help
[13:09] <Udonnome> i am insteling ubuntu under windows
[13:09] <codinGenesis> open system monitor and kill the process that shows is utilizing the most memory or cpu
[13:09] <codinGenesis> udonnome: go ahead...
[13:09] <Udonnome> and instalation size it pointed at 7GB,what that mean,it will use only 7gb of the harddrive?
[13:09] <Joshun> hi. i'm using kde. hi. I have several folder views on my kde plasma desktop, and on startup i get 'the process for the file protocol died unexpectedly' on at least one of them. could anybody help with this?
[13:09] <wols> Udonnome: yes
[13:09] <Joshun> in the kubuntu irc nobody replies
[13:09] <Udonnome> is that enough/
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Udonnome: is your windows partition very full?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Udonnome: its a squeeze but it can be enough
[13:10] <Udonnome> i am instaling it an separete drive
[13:10] <wols> Udonnome: ubuntu itself uses 7GB in this case. your data and documents might use more. for starters, allocate about 10GB I'd say
[13:10] <wols> Udonnome: but you can use more if you want of course
[13:10] <dr_willis> Udonnome,  i would say 10gb at a min.   if you are doing a normal 'full' install to its own hard drive. and not using wubi. i would give it more.
[13:11] <codinGenesis> udonnome: wols right it's better to have partition space more than 10 gigs
[13:11] <Udonnome> i am quite newb at this so i am gonna point like  areounf 20GB
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Udonnome: you can store your docs on your windows partition, it is accessible from /host
[13:11] <dr_willis> How is he douing a wubi install to a seperate drive?
[13:12] <dr_willis> I thought wubi had to be on C:
[13:12] <Xano> I am trying to chown a 777'ed folder on a shared server (so no root access) to www-data, but I keep getting a permission denied. Is there a way to work around this, or is that due to restrictions to my own account?
[13:12] <Udonnome> it that right,does it have to be in C:?
[13:13] <rubydiamond> Friends..
[13:13] <rubydiamond> what is the difference between .. man crontab and man 5 crontab
[13:13] <dr_willis> I dont use wubi Udonnome  and i dont reccomend using wubi. but  wubi installs to a 'file' on the windows drive.  it  may be able to go on other drives now a days.. but ive never tried it lately
[13:13] <beli> nothing rubydiamond
[13:13] <metadan> hey can anyone help. i'm trying ot get ubuntu 11.04 installed on my machine dualboot with win7 (Which is previously installed) but I can't work out how to setup the partitions the gparted display of the hd seems a bit weird
[13:13] <metadan> http://inky.ws/g/cs&msg=saved
[13:13] <rubydiamond> metadan: hmm
[13:13] <dr_willis> rubydiamond,  one is specifically asking for sectuon 5 of the man docs
[13:14] <beli> rubydiamond: but there are different sections of the man pages
[13:14] <rubydiamond> beli: hmm
[13:14] <dr_willis> man man   :) may tell you the differnt sections
[13:14] <rubydiamond> beli: how do I know the specific command has multiple sections ?
[13:14] <beli> rubydiamond: each section is related to special stuff...lets say system level...programming api......command syntax...
[13:14] <Udonnome> well i already run the installer,hope it will be ok
[13:14] <beli> rubydiamond: take a look at the bottom of the man output
[13:15] <beli> rubydiamond: for example try   man 2 syscall   ....its not a command...but system/programmig related
[13:16] <rubydiamond> beli: yeah.. it tells about current number ... but how do I know what other numbers are supported
[13:16] <metadan> dr_willis, sorry to come and bug you again, but I don't suppose you can offer any advice on whats shown here: http://inky.ws/g/cs
[13:16] <Mahmoud> how to upgrade xubuntu to run gnome3?
[13:16] <rubydiamond> beli: do you mean "SEE ALSO"
[13:17] <beli> rubydiamond: yes....and you need to know what you are searching before.....take a look at this overview: http://www.december.com/unix/ref/mansec.html
[13:17] <wols> metadan: you create 4 partitions, all primary ones so now your partition table is full
[13:17] <dr_willis> metadan,  you can only have 4 primary partitions.. You allready have 4... you need to remove the last one. and make it a extended partition.
[13:17] <bazhang> Mahmoud, from the ppa after you install ubuntu-desktop, its unsupported and will break. best to avoid
[13:17] <dr_willis> sda4 should actually be  a extended.. and the first logical IN the extended would be sda5
[13:17] <wols> metadan: you need to move one ntfs partition (usually sda4) to an extended partition and also the unallocated space. then you can create ubuntu partitions inside there
[13:18] <metadan> dr_willis ok but the partitions gparted display dont match the sizes of the ones in win?
[13:18] <dr_willis> metadan,  rounding perhaps...
[13:18] <metadan> there is actually no unallocated space on the drive
[13:18] <metadan> in win7 the whole thing is partition in 4 sections
[13:18] <rubydiamond> beli: thanks for the link .. now things are clear.
[13:18] <dr_willis> a system reserved partiton of a huge 922k.... wionder what that even is
[13:18] <wols> metadan: how big is your drive?
[13:18] <metadan> 1tb
[13:18] <beli> rubydiamond: another tool to use if you dont know what you are really searching for ist           info
[13:19] <Mahmoud> bazhang: bleh, ok
[13:19] <beli> rubydiamond: try         info man
[13:19] <wols> metadan: then yes there is unallocated space. in windows too.
[13:19] <metadan> if i check the drives in windows
[13:19] <wols> metadan: just check what you have available in windows, it's a lot less than 1000 GB, is it?
[13:19] <rubydiamond> beli: info command is not installed .. will install it
[13:19] <Andreas__> anyone gud within networks. I can't get my routes right
[13:19] <wols> metadan: run drivemgmt.msc and you will see there is unallocated space
[13:19] <metadan> the one shown as sda4 is not 22+ gb
[13:19] <metadan> sorry 200+gb
[13:19] <beli> ruby: it does a more "allover" look
[13:19] <metadan> its aboiut 150-160gb
[13:20] <beli> s/ruby/rubydiamond/
[13:20] <rubydiamond> beli: yeah  installed now
[13:20] <Mahmoud> how to upgrade my xubuntu? sudo apt-get upgrade?
[13:20] <bazhang> !upgrade > Mahmoud
[13:21] <metadan> likewise the acer partition showing as 12gb is probably 200gb
[13:21] <dr_willis> metadan,  if you are installing to sda4 it does not need to be ntfs..  you should be able to delete sda4. boot the ubuntu cd. tell it to use the unallocated space.. and IT should auto partition the unloccated space to be  a extended + a few logicals in side it
[13:22] <metadan> dr_willis It doesn't give me that option
[13:22] <metadan> i only get 'replace win7' or 'something else > your own partitions expert thing'
[13:22] <wols> metadan: you need to have 3 or less primary partitions to do it. as me and dr_willis already told you
[13:23] <metadan> yes i've tried that
[13:23] <metadan> that's the situation i started in
[13:23] <wols> metadan: please boot windows and pastebin the picture of drivemgmt.msc please
[13:23] <metadan> ok 1min
[13:23] <Mahmoud> bazhang: should I follow all the upgrades in sequence until I reach 11.xx?
[13:24] <dr_willis>  (priamry 1) (primary 2) (primary 3 ) (extended  <logical 1 - /> <logical 2 swap> )
[13:24] <pluess> Is there a way to get access to my ubuntu 10.4 machine, if I've lost the root pw and ssh pw? My machine is running on Amazon EC2.
[13:24] <dr_willis> pluess,  ask amazon ec2 to reset them>
[13:24] <wols> pluess: only via amazon
[13:24] <beli> pluess: do you have any reboot options?
[13:25] <pluess> I'm not an amazon pro.
[13:25] <dr_willis> I imagine amazon has some support people.
[13:25] <pluess> I do see some credentials in the amazone account but I don't know what do with them.
[13:26] <dr_willis> time to check the amazon faq/docs/support areas i think
[13:28] <gunbuck_> Im using ubuntu 11.04 and i wanna put linux mint on a usb stick so i can try it out....How would i do this ??
[13:28] <dr_willis> gunbuck_,  use unetbootin, or some of the tools from pendrivelinux web site
[13:28] <gunbuck_> thank you :)
[13:29] <gbili> hello, does anyone know how to launch compiz config settings manager?
[13:29] <Mahmoud> should I upgrade from lucid to nanny then to the last version? can I just jump from luicid to last version ?
[13:30] <freq9> anyone can tell me why "tree" is not available? http://paste.ubuntu.com/628760/
[13:30] <BlouBlou> Mahmoud: it's "natty"
[13:30] <dr_willis> The program 'tree' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[13:30] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install tree
[13:30] <praveen_> mahmoud, you can't jump..u must have to move in sequence
[13:30] <wols> Mahmoud: natty IS the latest version. and you need to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.10 and then to 11.04 if you want to run it
[13:30] <BlouBlou> Mahmoud: And no, you can't
[13:30] <dr_willis> !info tree
[13:31] <dr_willis> Enable the Universe reposuitory
[13:31] <dr_willis> and 'sudo apt-get update'  then try it again
[13:31] <gunbuck_> grr i can only find windows to linux
[13:32] <gunbuck_> i need ubuntu to linux mint
[13:32] <wols> gunbuck_: mint being debian based, debootstrap will work
[13:32] <freq9> dr_willis: ah thanks :) didn't know i need to update before using the new repository
[13:32] <gbili> Where is CCSM (Compiz Config Settings Manager)
[13:32] <gunbuck_> sweet thanks
[13:32] <wols> gunbuck_: but I suggest asking mint people about installing mint from another linux distro
[13:32] <brontosaurusrex> gunbuck_, check "startup disk creator" under system/admin
[13:32] <dr_willis> You always need to update  AFTER enableing a new repo.
[13:32] <dr_willis> and you shoudl update every so often anyway.
[13:33] <gunbuck_> ui tried start up disk creator it didnt work well :(
[13:33] <dr_willis> gunbuck_,  the pendrivelinux site has tools for linux. and unetbootin does work in Ubuntu
[13:33] <dr_willis> startup-disk-creator may have issues with non-ubuntu disrtos.
[13:33] <gunbuck_> k
[13:33] <freq9> dr_willis: thanks ;)
[13:36] <metadan> wols win config http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ivaczc&s=7 I need, c,d and k
[13:36] <Sidewinder1> metadan, The following link is a great resource: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[13:36] <gunbuck_> Live USB installer seems to be what im looking for cheers guys
[13:37] <Sidewinder1> metadan, And an 11.04 specific, once you've got it installed: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[13:38] <metadan> Sidewinder1, thanks, i'm comfortable from that point its just getting the partitions setup to install it
[13:38] <metadan> i've installed it prob 4-8 times before
[13:38] <metadan> but this is the first time the partitions in gparted/win7 have seemed v different
[13:38] <wols> metadan: you use a dynamic disk partitions. these are non-standard and totally windows only
[13:39] <metadan> wols, thanks, so how can i get round it?
[13:39] <wols> use "Basic" partitions or "GPT"
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> wols: non-standard..windows.... ;)
[13:40] <metadan> ok so if i delete ubuntu1 & ubuntu2 as partitions
[13:40] <wols> metadan: see for example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705481
[13:40] <wols> metadan: there is no way. even your windows boot partition is a dynamic disk.
[13:40] <metadan> wols thanks, i'll have a read
[13:40] <metadan> awesome
[13:40] <metadan> ...
[13:41] <kingofswords> hi how do i stop my screen from auto dimming after a couple mins?
[13:41] <metadan> this pc came set up with dynamic partitions
[13:41] <metadan> ok i'll read
[13:41] <pishguy> hi all. this line is not work correctly from bash: gksu echo "menuentry 'Microsoft Windows' --class os { insmod ntfs set root='(hd0,msdos0)' chainloader +1} " >> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:41] <metadan> thanks for the info
[13:41] <theadmin> kingofswords: System -> Prefs -> Power mgmt
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: in power options / screensaver options
[13:41] <theadmin> Or what ActionParsnip said
[13:42] <wols> metadan: the first thing you always do with such a PC is: make a windows DVD to install from and nuke the whole disk and start fresh. removes all the adware manufacturers like to spam you with too
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> metadan, I think you'll have to format one of those partitions to ext3/ext4 to properly install ubuntu.
[13:42] <kingofswords> theadmin, thx
[13:42] <wols> Sidewinder1: that won't help
[13:42] <metadan> wols: so if i have any dynamic partitions I cant work with that drive?
[13:42] <kingofswords> ActionParsnip, nah that just stops te screensaver on mine
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> wols, They all appear to be NTFS partitions, no?
[13:42] <kingofswords> screen dims after 1 min or 2...even if im watching movies
[13:43] <wols> metadan: yes. as you saw the dynamic partitions and what ubuntu sees has almost nothing to do with each other. you will usually overwrite windows partitions then and delete data. not a good thing
[13:43] <wols> Sidewinder1: they are dynamic partitions. learn what those are
[13:43] <dageriv> I took backup of my $HOME folder and reinstalled ubuntu. Can I now simply copy the home folder back?
[13:43] <wols> dageriv: yes
[13:43] <metadan> wols: ok i figured something was wrong when it didn't match
[13:43] <theadmin> dageriv: Sure, just chown it all properly later
[13:44] <dageriv> wols: will all configurations and such come back?
[13:44] <Sidewinder1> wols, Thanks! I will have to read up on dynamic; never heard of them before, again, thanks.
[13:44] <metadan> wols: i'll look at converting them
[13:44] <theadmin> dageriv: Yah
[13:44] <wols> metadan: if you are lucky, parted might be able to do it
[13:44] <brontosaurusrex> dageriv, sure, if you did backup all stuff which started with a . as well
[13:45] <theadmin> brontosaurusrex: except maybe ..
[13:45] <theadmin> brontosaurusrex: ;)
[13:45] <brontosaurusrex> theadmin, right
[13:45] <metadan> wols: actually bugger this, i'll buy another drive and stick it on that rather than wasting the backup time and risking the data loss
[13:45] <metadan> it seems win7 creates dynamic partitions by default when you choose 'new simple volume'
[13:46] <wols> metadan: I doubt it. mine didn't
[13:46] <theadmin> metadan: Use easueus if you intend on creating partitions in Windwos
[13:46] <theadmin> metadan: windows*
[13:46] <Trashi> hello. i still have problems with my atheros 5001 wlan chip .. i activated wlan via rfkill unblock... but now it doesnt find networks. could someone help to fix please?
[13:46] <theadmin> metadan: It can create ext3 partitions too
[13:46] <wols> Trashi: iwconfig
[13:46] <codinGenesis> wols,  i have installed utorrent windows version perfectly in ubuntu
[13:47] <metadan> can it safely (i know thats a tentative word in this context) convert dynamic > basic?
[13:47] <metadan> thadmin:
[13:47] <theadmin> metadan: Not even sure, I never worked with dynamic partitions
[13:47] <brontosaurusrex> so is there something in utorrent, that say transmission lacks?
[13:47] <Trashi> wols: wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:off/any
[13:47] <codinGenesis> but the prob is same the trackers are giving the same error, that means their some prob with my ubuntu's installation
[13:47] <theadmin> brontosaurusrex: Nothing, he's just, ahem.
[13:47] <metadan> ok i'm off for a read
[13:48] <metadan> thanks for the help guys
[13:48] <theadmin> brontosaurusrex: He's probably just used to utorrent
[13:49] <brontosaurusrex> makes sense
[13:49] <dageriv> FACK, my hidden files were not backed up
[13:49] <wols> codinGenesis: is the portforward set and working?
[13:49] <theadmin> brontosaurusrex: Except I wanted to say something *much* more rude
[13:50] <Trashi> wols: wlan0 seems to be off :/
[13:50] <theadmin> Trashi: ifconfig wlan0 up?
[13:50] <wols> Trashi: define "off"?
[13:50] <codinGenesis> how to check that stuff ??
[13:50] <Sidewinder1> wols, codinGenesis is using a modem, not a router.
[13:50] <Trashi> theadmin: had no effect
[13:51] <wols> codinGenesis: then the output of sudo iptables -L and ifconfig -a please
[13:51] <codinGenesis> Sidewinder1, you are right , i think there some prob with my network confugration !!
[13:51] <Linux4UnMe> g'dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[13:51] <Trashi> wols: wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:off/any Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated RTS thr:off Fragment: off Power Management: off
[13:51] <Sidewinder1> codinGenesis, It's been years since I've used a modem; not sure how to port forward with a modem. :-(
[13:52] <wols> Trashi: doesn't say anything about being off, does it?
[13:53] <perplexa> hi, does anyone know why my pidgin notify-osd popups seem misplaced on natty?
[13:53] <Trashi> wols: dont understand the question .. that is just the output of iwconfig ... the wlan led on my notebook is enabled ... but ubuntu doesnt find any networks
[13:53] <perplexa> it's like they are placed a bit too low, so there would always fit another notification between it and the border of the screen
[13:53] <codinGenesis> wols,  i have send you the outcome
[13:53] <Udonnome> ok,installing is done,now it booted up,and it show me something like guide,how to close that guide and start using ubuntu?
[13:54] <theadmin> perplexa: It's "intended"
[13:54] <wols> !info ufw
[13:54] <Sidewinder1> codinGenesis, There are many folks that don't care for it but I use Azureus as my torrent client; I believe it's currently called Vuze. You might try it.
[13:54] <perplexa> theadmin: it sucks :P
[13:54] <wols> codinGenesis: next time use a pastebin
[13:54] <theadmin> perplexa: There's a tool to bring them back to a normal place, I just don't remember what. Probably ubuntu-tweak
[13:54] <osos> hi! Is it possible to bind window resize to for example ctrl-key in the same fashion alt-key is bound to window move?
[13:54] <codinGenesis> wols, ok i will take care from now after...
[13:55] <Le_Vass> osos, are you using compiz?
[13:55] <osos> Le_Vass: aye.
[13:55] <perplexa> theadmin: gonna look into it, thank you. i don't see any valid reason to place notifications anywhere else than in a corner :)
[13:55] <osos> Le_Vass: oh, right. :D
[13:55] <andypandy89> hey, anyone know what mono package to install that are compatible with .NET 4.0 ?
[13:55] <osos> Le_Vass: cheers, mate.
[13:55] <brontosaurusrex> any guides on how to make my laptop an internet provider for my android when usb connected?
[13:55] <andypandy89> I tried mono-complete but no cigar
[13:55] <codinGenesis> Sidewinder1, from morning i was having prob related  torrents so tried most of them but no use, i was getting error in tracker connection as error always
[13:55] <theadmin> perplexa: Ubuntu devs reserved the corner for "VERY important" notifications
[13:55] <Le_Vass> lemme check
[13:55] <perplexa> i'd also like to have the app come to front when clicking on them as that's intentional behaviour, instead of clicking throug them.
[13:55] <theadmin> perplexa: i.e. volume change things xD
[13:56] <perplexa> that's somewhat stupid, if you ask me
[13:56] <perplexa> a huge usability fail
[13:56] <theadmin> perplexa: I know
[13:56] <brontosaurusrex> laptop running natty
[13:56] <Trashi> wols: so, no idea what could help? :-/
[13:56] <Linux4UnMe> I want to hear a vote here for the hell of it..... Those who like Unity say "IIIIIIIIIIII" those who don't say "NNIIIIIII"
[13:57] <cna> unity suks
[13:57] <Le_Vass> osos, go to CompizConfig and search for the Window Resize plugin
[13:57] <Trashi> cna: right
[13:57] <wols> Trashi: use the standard interfaces stuff and no network-manager perhaps
[13:57] <K1ng> histo, i just installed ubuntu server 10.4.2 TLS...
[13:57] <wols> !polls
[13:57] <Le_Vass> BTW, I'm translating from portuguese so the exact word might be different
[13:57] <K1ng> the problem is the server doesnt boot without pendrive
[13:57] <cna> the best was 10.04 lts :)
[13:57] <gbili> hello, i was wondering if it was possible to broaden the search capabilities of the top left button in ubuntu 11.04 unity
[13:57] <Linux4UnMe> I hate unity too. but i'm gonna try out the latest build
[13:58] <Linux4UnMe> open minded
[13:58] <kwtm2> cna: You say that in the past tense, but it still holds true currently, I think.
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> codinGenesis, Vuze has many, many configuration options, so many that it can get confusing, but perhaps with it and some research you can solve your problem.
[13:58] <Diamondcite> brontosaurusrex: http://blog.mycila.com/2010/06/reverse-usb-tethering-with-android-22.html  <-- try that?
[13:58] <Le_Vass> gbili, I use Gnome Do instead
[13:58] <cna> now i have  debian 6.0 sqeez :)
[13:58] <andypandy89> hey, anyone know what mono package to install that are compatible with .NET 4.0 ? tried mono-complete but didn't work
[13:58] <ullas> when playing movies in 11.04 the video freezes every second (nvidia drivers)
[13:59] <codinGenesis> Sidewinder1,  thanks i think i would have to try it also...
[13:59] <Trashi> cna: ubuntu 11.04 supports gnome2 also...
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> codinGenesis, Can't hurt. :-)
 when playing movies in 11.04 the video freezes every second (nvidia drivers)  Help
[13:59] <Vino> can someone help me get networking working on my vmware ubuntu install? i've tried bridged and nat but i can't seem to get it working
[13:59] <cna> t but is very unstable
[13:59] <codinGenesis> Sidewinder1,  :)
[13:59] <Trashi> cna: hm .. i have no problems so far
[14:00] <AciD_> hi
[14:00] <Sidewinder1> codinGenesis, Unfortunately your final solution may be to loose the modem and get a router but they cost $. :-(
[14:00] <cna> I had the same problems only
 when playing movies in 11.04 the video freezes every second (nvidia drivers)  Help
[14:00] <AciD_> after some unexpected hard reset, I saw that some files from / are corrupted. So I decided to reainstall all the packages using "dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == "install" { print $1 }' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install". For unknown reason, nothing will install outputing this error "E: Impossible d'effectuer la configuration immédiate de « bash ». Veuillez consulter la page de manuel apt.conf(5) et notamment la section à
[14:00] <AciD_>  propos de APT::Immediate-Configure, pour plus d'informations. (2)" which could be translated into "E: Could not perform immediate configuration "bash". Please see the manual page apt.conf (5) and in particular the section about APT:: Immediate-Configure, for more information. (2)". any idea how to force the system to reinstall all installed packages ?
[14:00] <gbili> La_Vass, what do you mean you use gnome?
[14:00] <brontosaurusrex> Diamondcite, ty
[14:01] <codinGenesis> Sidewinder1 do you know how to reset iptables ??
[14:01] <pksadiq> AciD_: do an fsck on the partition
[14:01] <codinGenesis> or set the basic network confugration ??
[14:01] <cna> speech is not about playing movies or drivers because it improved
[14:01] <Sidewinder1> codinGenesis, Sorry but that's beyond my abilities. Perhaps in a terminal, type man iptables.
[14:02] <AciD_> pksadiq: all clean iirc
[14:02] <Le_Vass> gbili, Gnome Do, is an application in te repository. http://do.davebsd.com/
[14:02] <brontosaurusrex> ullas, what kind of movies, what players did you test?
[14:02] <cna> but the system settings and some things
[14:02] <codinGenesis> ok let me give it a try...
[14:02] <whitman> Is it possible to set the side bar to not disappear when an app is full screen or moved all the way to the left?
[14:03] <Trashi> wols: just installed wicd and it seems to work .. thx for your help
[14:03] <ullas> tortem and vlc
[14:03] <AciD_> pksadiq: at least fsck says it's clean, but I somehow have some ext4 error in /var/log/kern.log from time to time
[14:03] <james23> Hello
[14:03] <gbili> Le_Vass, ah ok, and what is it intended for?
[14:03] <ullas> brontosaurusrex tortem & VLC both has the same problem Its also in Youtube videos as well
[14:04] <Le_Vass> so guys, can I use my local APT cache as a repository for another PC in my local network?
[14:04] <james23> My shared partition is never mounted when I turn on my computer, how do I automount it?
[14:04] <wols> !info apt-mirror
[14:04] <Sidewinder1> whitman, I can't answer your question, sorry, but perhaps it might be found here: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[14:04] <pksadiq> AciD_: force fsck
[14:04] <wols> Le_Vass: /msg ubottu apt-proxy    /msg ubottu apt-cacher-ng
[14:04] <brontosaurusrex> ullas, check mplayer or/and smplayer gui
[14:04] <Le_Vass> gbili, it's sort of hard to explain. You use it to do stuff :-) Mostly finding files and apps, m
[14:05] <Le_Vass> gbili, but it can be used for much more
[14:05] <ullas> brontosaurusrex No use its also in youtube videos
[14:05] <codinGenesis> wols,  ?? did you get anything ???
[14:05] <Le_Vass> wols, thanks
[14:05] <gbili> Le_Vass, ok thanks ill check it out
[14:05] <brontosaurusrex> ullas, youtube is something complettely different, it requires flash or html5 browser
[14:06] <cna> underdeveloped system released, with the precedent Aug. unity, if you ask me, however, won the gnome of unity
[14:06] <cna>  
[14:06] <AciD_> pksadiq: errors like that : http://pastebin.com/8rHysFym
[14:06] <ullas> brontosaurusrex So you suggest I change the player
[14:07] <wols> codinGenesis: yes. and the firewall is not cutting off anything with your torrents
[14:07] <ullas> brontosaurusrex Will it be the trouble with the Nvidia configration
[14:07] <brontosaurusrex> ullas, as always, the procedure is: a. figure out what the media files is b. see if cpu can deal with it, see if gpu may be able to decode that c. play it with mplayer - thats what i do at leat
[14:07] <AciD_> pksadiq: I'll reboot with a live usb to force the fsck. brb
[14:07] <cna> Trashi, underdeveloped system released, with the precedent Aug. unity, if you ask me, however, won the gnome of unity
[14:07] <cna>  
[14:07] <codinGenesis> wols,  so where the prob is then?? i am thinking of a new instalation now...
[14:08] <brontosaurusrex> ullas, could be
[14:08] <Diamondcite> ullas: How fast is the system? Also what resolution are the videos? (codec would be nice to know)
[14:08] <wols> codinGenesis: new installations won't solve problems. they just mask them at best. usually not even that
[14:09] <brontosaurusrex> ullas, mediainfo is the thing i'am using to get info about files, you may also use ffmpeg
[14:09] <brontosaurusrex> or mplayer
[14:09] <ullas> How fast I have an old PC with AMD athalon 786 Ram
[14:10] <lvh> Hello! Is there a way to connect to AFS shares using Nautilus? I'm on Ubuntu 11.04.
[14:10] <Diamondcite> ullas: No model number for the Athlon? Can you atleast check the speed by looking at /proc/cpuinfo ?
[14:11] <Diamondcite> ullas: Do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and please pastebin that information?
[14:11] <lvh> Sorry, I mean AFP* shares.
[14:11] <ullas> Diamondcite ok wait
[14:12] <wols> lvh: mount them in a terminal and then access like any other file?
[14:12] <shiftingcontrol> I m using 11.04/my grub2 doesn't display menu but it enters grub console automatically
[14:12] <Tweasy> Good afternoon everyone
[14:12] <Diamondcite> lvh: http://stackoverflow.org/wiki/Mount_an_AFP_share_from_Linux   <--- something like that maybe?
[14:12] <lvh> wols: Yes, I know about afpfs-ng
[14:12] <wols> shiftingcontrol: you mean "grub>"?
[14:12] <kartik> shifting control did you upgrade from 10.10?
[14:12] <shiftingcontrol> wols, yes
[14:13] <shiftingcontrol> Kartik:yes
[14:13] <lvh> wols: My goal is to get my *mom* to do it, so I would expect Nautilus to be able to do it
[14:13] <Tweasy> I don't know how to put this so I'll just go straight ahead
[14:13] <Tweasy> I'm new to Ubuntu, came from Win7 yesterday
[14:13] <wols> lvh: create a script for her to run
[14:13] <Tweasy> And I have a situation
[14:13] <kartik> shifting, you'll need a live cd to fix that, happened to me yesterday
[14:13] <wols> !fixmbr > shiftingcontrol
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> lvh: afpfs-ng is a tool you can use
[14:14] <shiftingcontrol> Kartik:i have that
[14:14] <Tweasy> I'm using Vaio VGN-Z Series laptop and I wanted to know if there is anyone here that has the same laptop
[14:14] <cna> shiftingcontrol, grub update in cosole
[14:14] <Tweasy> The laptop has a Graphic card switch from Intel to Nvidea
[14:14] <Tweasy> nvidia*
[14:14] <Tweasy> Anyone?
[14:14] <shiftingcontrol> cna:even after that i have same issue
[14:15] <AciD_> pksadiq: everything seems fine even with the -f option
[14:15] <wols> Tweasy: asking if "anyone" has the same hardware as you is never a good idea. ask your real question
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: I know of bumblebee which may be usable to switch. I personaly avoid those dual GPU things
[14:16] <AciD_> pksadiq: no error in the output, apart the information that 7,9% of my /home and 3,7% of my / files are not contiguous
[14:16] <Tweasy> Okay
[14:16] <Tweasy> I'll tell you guys the problem then
[14:16] <wols> !enter
[14:17] <Tweasy> Everything is working fine after formatting and coming from windows 7 except the Graphic card switch. Laptop is a VGN Z51WG/B (Vaio)
[14:17] <wols> Tweasy: graphic card switch doesn't work
[14:17] <codinGenesis> in network proxy settings which option i should keep ???
[14:17] <Tweasy> Everything I use, ofcourse. Didn't test the micro card slot. But the brightness and volume work fine!
[14:18] <pksadiq> AciD_: k, try chrooting to your ubuntu and do dpkg --confgure -a
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: they are a pain
[14:18] <codinGenesis> direct, manual or automatic
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/bumbleebee-brings-nvidia-optimus-gpu-switching-to-linux-users/ Tweasy
[14:18] <Tweasy> Wols, ActionParsnip: So is there a way around?
[14:18] <wols> bunblebee is a software hack that can make it work but considering the developer distributed code that removed your whole /usr for 14 days, I wouldn't trust this guy to tell me the sky is blue
[14:18] <wols> Tweasy: not really
[14:18] <codinGenesis> does the proxy setting of web browsers affect the connection prob of the computer ??
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> wols: I think the whole gpu switching idea is a hack
[14:19] <wols> codinGenesis: only if you need the proxy to access the internet. if your ISP mangles your tcp packets, then torrents may not work
[14:19] <AciD_> re
[14:19] <gNewPower> Hi, I want to upgrade to 11.04 and I don't have enough space on / [size:13G used: 9.7G  avail:2.6G]  I got rid of OpenOffice but I need to get rid of another 200MB.  What are typically the real big aps I could get rid of? thanks!
[14:19] <AciD_> got disconnected, I said :
[14:19] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: I'll read into it! Thank you very much.
[14:19] <Tweasy> wols: Okay, thanks anyway!
[14:19] <AciD_> pksadiq: everything seems fine even with the -f option
[14:19] <theadmin> gNewPower: GNOME
[14:19] <wols> ActionParsnip: it's a fine thing. a very good idea. but in this case the architecture of X doesn't work with it
[14:19] <AciD_> pksadiq: no error in the output, apart the information that 7,9% of my /home and 3,7% of my / files are not contiguous
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> wols: i think the gpu should just clock up and down like cool'n'quiet
[14:20] <prajatha> diamondcite its: processor	: 0
[14:20] <prajatha> vendor_id	: AuthenticAMD
[14:20] <prajatha> cpu family	: 6
[14:20] <prajatha> model		: 8
[14:20] <prajatha> model name	: AMD Athlon(tm)
[14:20] <prajatha> stepping	: 1
[14:20] <FloodBot1> prajatha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <gNewPower> theadmin, all of GNOME?!
[14:20] <codinGenesis> wols,  my torrent works perfectly in windows, so i think there is no prob from the ISP..!!
[14:20] <prajatha> cpu MHz		: 1249.949
[14:20] <Tweasy> Have you though about grabbing all your data and saving it into a hard-drive then, formatting?
[14:20] <wols> ActionParsnip: anything that lets notebooks have more graphicspower while still being able to have long batery life is a good thing
[14:20] <theadmin> gNewPower: Sure xD
[14:20] <theadmin> gNewPower: Why not?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> wols: true true
[14:20] <gNewPower> theadmin, but that is my desktop manager?
[14:20] <theadmin> gNewPower: It *is* huge
[14:21] <AciD_> gNewPower: try removing the *-doc package
[14:21] <theadmin> gNewPower: What is your problem, remove it, upgrade and install back again
[14:21] <codinGenesis> wols,  should i keep direct internet connection in proxy preference ??
[14:21] <gNewPower> AciD_, where? which ones?
[14:21] <theadmin> gNewPower: Also run "sudo apt-get clean"
[14:21] <gNewPower> theadmin, that I did
[14:21] <AciD_> gNewPower: you can sort by size under synaptic iirc, go search there
[14:22] <prajatha> diamondcite processor	: 0
[14:22] <prajatha> vendor_id	: AuthenticAMDcpu family	: 6model		: 8model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) stepping	: 1cpu MHz		: 1249.949cache size	: 256 KB
[14:22] <Tweasy> AFK
[14:22] <gNewPower> AciD_, where are the *-doc files located? what are they?
[14:22] <gNewPower> AciD_, you don't mean MS word docs, do you?
[14:22] <wols> gNewPower: /usr/share/doc  it's documentation files
[14:22] <AciD_> gNewPower: not files, debian packages
[14:22] <AciD_> like kmymoney-doc
[14:23] <wols> gNewPower: and you can see packages via "dpkg -l |grep doc" for example
[14:23] <AciD_> usually *-doc packages are quite big
[14:23] <gNewPower> wols, can I just erase all of /usr/share/doc ?
[14:23] <Tweasy> Hey guys, how do I delete the icons left on the applications menu that weren't removed after an uninstall?
[14:23] <AciD_> gNewPower: no
[14:23] <prajatha> My video freezes every second when i play videos. Youtube also has the same trouble Help
[14:23] <AciD_> gNewPower: you still want to keep a 'clean' and coherent install
[14:23] <wols> gNewPower: don't. check dpkg -l | grep \\-doc
[14:23] <gNewPower> AciD_, ok
[14:24] <AciD_> pksadiq: any though on my previous problem since fsck.ext4 returns no error whatsoever ?
[14:24] <prajatha> My video freezes every second when i play videos. Youtube also has the same trouble I am using amd athlon Help
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> prajatha: is your ram healthy?
[14:24] <wols> !repeat > prajatha
[14:24] <prajatha> yes its healthy
[14:24] <gNewPower> wols, AciD_ - how do I best remove all the *-doc packages?
[14:25] <wols> prajatha: don't use nvidia drivers for startsd
[14:25] <theadmin> gNewPower: apt-get remove *-doc
[14:25] <x_> hi
[14:25] <wols> gNewPower: the same way you remove any other package
[14:25] <pksadiq> AciD_: so I hope there is no problem with your files due to restart, and also I hope now its working right, isn't it?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> prajatha: when did you last test it?
[14:25] <prajatha> means
[14:25] <gNewPower> theadmin, ok I will try that
[14:25] <gNewPower> let's see
[14:25] <AciD_> gNewPower: not all, just sort the packages in synaptic by size, then remove the bigger ones as needed
[14:25] <prajatha> right now action
[14:25] <Tweasy> wols: is there a way to remove old shortcuts from the applications menu? I've got some leftovers from an uninstall.
[14:25] <gNewPower> E: Unable to locate package *-doc
[14:25] <gNewPower> E: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression
[14:25] <gNewPower> E: Couldn't find any package by regex '*-doc'
[14:26] <prajatha> ActionParsnip for the last two days
[14:26] <wols> Tweasy: purge the packages, don't just remove
[14:26] <theadmin> gNewPower: Oh, does it use regexes? Then try apt-get remove .*-doc
[14:26] <gNewPower> wols, can you give me the correct command please
[14:26] <AciD_> pksadiq: I still have so error in some files. For instance right now I'm copying all the files from / to a backup hd, and get some i/o error
[14:26] <Tweasy> wols: sorry mate, just came from windows don't know what that means.
[14:26] <wols> AciD_: that sounds like a bad disk, not a bad filesystem
[14:27] <wols> Tweasy: apt-get purge <packages>
[14:27] <AciD_> pksadiq: the point is my previous problem was finding a way to force the reinstall of all deb packages using xargs and --get-selections
[14:27] <gNewPower> wols, does 'apt-get purge .*-doc' look correct?
[14:27] <AciD_> pksadiq: which wasn't working :/
[14:27] <wols> AciD_: /msg dpkg aptitude clone    for example
[14:27] <wols> gNewPower: no
[14:27] <Tweasy> wols: I went to the ubuntu software and removed an app, now theres a shortcut there w/o the program
[14:27] <pksadiq> AciD_: so I think using dd is better to backup now
[14:27] <Tweasy> wols: the purge is still applicable?
[14:27] <Le_Vass> Apt-proxy was dropped on Maverick. Anyone know why?
[14:27] <gNewPower> wols, what is the correct command then?
[14:28] <AciD_> wols: the disk in brand new though
[14:28] <wols> AciD_: and?
[14:28] <wols> !errors > AciD_
[14:28] <AciD_> wols: that would be a pita
[14:28] <AciD_> :)
[14:29] <gNewPower> wols, what is the correct command to purge all doc packages then?
[14:29] <Tweasy> btw, wols, how do I know what package to put there for purging?
[14:29] <AciD_> pksadiq: I'm not using dd since I want to be able to copy/paste the files to another partition if needed
[14:29] <pksadiq> gNewPower: I think sudo dpkg remove \*-doc          , *not* sure
[14:29] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip you there?
[14:30] <wols> Tweasy: you know what you uninstalled and you know what file is still in your menu
[14:30] <Tweasy> I do
[14:30] <wols> then you know what to purge
[14:30] <Tweasy> Then I'll just right the shortcut's name?
[14:30] <pksadiq> gNewPower: or apt-get remove \*-doc
[14:30] <Tweasy> I'll give it a try
[14:31] <Sidewinder1> pksadiq, /
[14:31] <AciD_> wols: there is no error from fsck, but when I copy the file, I get things like "cp: lecture de «myroot/var/log/kern.log»: Erreur d'entrée/sortie" which means input/ouput error
[14:31] <gNewPower> wols, does 'apt-get remove \*-doc' look right?
[14:31] <wols> gNewPower: not really
[14:31] <wols> AciD_: check your kernel log
[14:32] <gNewPower> wols, please help me out here and give me the correct command
[14:32] <dr_willis> id be real real carefull with using  wildcards to remove packages.
[14:32] <wols> AciD_: and use LANG=C <command> next time. we don't speak french very well. maybe even use export LANG=C;<command>
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: sup
[14:32] <ghufran> hello all.. can someone tell me how to start using applets in 11.04 .. like the force quit or the process list ..or cpu temperature etc ?
[14:32] <AciD_> wols: k
[14:33] <gNewPower> dr_willis, I guess I will try with synaptic then
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> ghufran: look into gdeskletas
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> *gdesklets
[14:33] <dr_willis> ghufran,  install the proper indicator-applet thing and it should show up.   many of the old gnome-panel  things dont work that well in the new unity interface.
[14:33] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: wols answered me but hes being asked a lot of questions and I wanted to take that load off him
[14:33] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: so I wanted you to help me basically :P
[14:33] <dr_willis> the webupd8 site  and askubuntu.com site have some nice lists of new indicator-applets to expand your ubuntu unity system
[14:34] <gNewPower> thanks to all. bye
[14:34] <Tweasy> bbye
[14:34] <ghufran> dr_willis, yes, i am realizing that a lot of things are work-in-progress now..
[14:34] <AciD_> wols: I do got a _lot_ of errors in kern.log like this : http://pastebin.com/ALDWG0fG
[14:34] <alasdair1> hey guys
[14:34] <Tweasy> @wols: tried purging it says can't find what I'm trying to purge
[14:34] <wols> gNewPower: I doubt apt-get or dpkg can do what you want. aptitude most probably can but I dunno the way to call it. why not just cut+paste the ones you want removed. can't be that many...
[14:34] <alasdair1> im having a really hard time configuring my Ubuntu Server network card settings
[14:34] <codinGenesis> dr_willis, i succesfully installed utorrent and that to latest version of windows using wine
[14:34] <dr_willis> ghufran,  those applets might work in the ubuntu-classic desktop. but theres proberly replacements for most of them.
[14:35] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  ill stick with transmission on my linux boxs :)
[14:35] <wols> AciD_: I see a new disk in your future
[14:35] <Tweasy> apt-get purge Evolution Mail and Calendar @wols
[14:35] <wols> AciD_: could be other things too of course, cable for example
[14:35] <AciD_> wols: on the other hand, the 'cp' command only output i/o errors for 6 files
[14:35] <Tweasy> didn't work
[14:36] <wols> Tweasy: apt-get purge evolution  only
[14:36] <AciD_> wols: it's in a laptop
[14:36] <bullgard4_> [Natty] I set up a new computer. Nautilus opens new directories in the »Icons« view. How can I make Nautilus to open new directories in the »List« view?
[14:36] <Tweasy> k
[14:36] <alasdair1> i want to input these settings  ip : 192.168.0.20, Subenet : 255.255.255.0, def Gate: 192.168.0.5, Dns 1 : 192.168.0.5
[14:36] <alasdair1> can anyone help me know how to do this please?  Im using the latest 32bit version of ubuntu server in VirtualBox
[14:36] <dr_willis> Tweasy,  Case Is Impiorntant I belive
[14:36] <wols> AciD_: then ignore them. still, some of your hardware is shot
[14:36] <wols> alasdair1: man interfaces
[14:36] <Tweasy> dr_willies Thanks, I know that
[14:36] <codinGenesis> dr_willis,  i want your help regarding how to configure the network, because it seems somewhere ubuntu is stopping these torrent clients to work properly
[14:36] <Tweasy> @wols: did that, same.
[14:36] <wols> codinGenesis: it's not
[14:36] <AciD_> wols: any way to tell the system to not use those bad sectors ?
[14:36] <wols> !info evolution
[14:36] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  i only use the default network settings here. with no issues.
[14:37] <ghufran> dr_willis, well how do i find those replacements? where will they be shown? currently i'm not even able to properly change the items in the launcher .
[14:37] <dr_willis> codinGenesis,  it gets ip/dhcp stuff. and it works.. so im  not sure how to configure
[14:37] <Tweasy> It's still @ Applications>Office mr.wols
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> !volunteers > codinGenesis
[14:37] <Tweasy> Isn't there a way to go there and delete it my self @wols
[14:37] <alfa77> hello, I'm having some problems with flash plugin: in this page it tells me that I have installed Flash player 10.1.999 installed, but some flash site doesn't work correctly
[14:37] <alasdair1> can i set my ubuntu server to DHCP mode rather than static ip mode?
[14:37] <wols> Tweasy: I am no "mr." and it might be cached, I dunno
[14:37] <dr_willis> ghufran,  which launcher? you lean the left side unity panel?  You can remove things, then add things, and use the menui to pin them to the launcher
[14:37] <wols> alasdair1: yes. man interfaces  as before
[14:37] <alfa77> what could I check with this?
[14:37] <Tweasy> @wols, Sorry.
[14:38] <dr_willis> ghufran,  -->   the webupd8 site  and askubuntu.com site have some nice lists of new indicator-applets to expand your ubuntu unity system
[14:39] <alfa77> I have tried using chromium 12.0.742.91 or firefox 3.6.17
[14:40] <vampyre2000> Hey Guys any decent Gui interface to the ATI command line for overclocking
[14:41] <wols> vampyre2000: no
[14:42] <vampyre2000> ;-(
[14:42] <vampyre2000> I have see a few old ones from 2009, but most had library issues
[14:43] <ghufran> dr_willis, yes, i can do that ..but the options are very limited. for instance, it won't let me change the ordering of the items..
[14:43] <ghufran> dr_willis, going to check out webud8 and askubuntu
[14:44] <Daniel0108> The mic on my HP pavilion  dv7-2070eg does not work on Ubuntu 11.04, I tried to enable it with alsamixer and the sound preferences GUI. Any ideas?
[14:44] <esmirlin> está de más que pida soporte de kubuntu en este canal¿?
[14:44] <dr_willis> ghufran,  if you are refering to the order of the indicator-applet icons.. thats doable with some tweaks i saw at the webupd8 site
[14:45] <AciD_> re
[14:46] <bullgard4_> Daniel0108: If alsamixer did not show a clue the only solution I know is to google for microphone and your computer type.
[14:46] <AciD_> wols: using "dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == "install" { print $1 }' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install" to reinstall all my packages, I get that error : E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'bash'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2). any idea about that ?
[14:47] <Daniel0108> bullgard4_: I tried to google it, no results :/
[14:47] <wols> AciD_: no
[14:48] <AciD_> echo 'APT::Immediate-Configure "false";' > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/67configure won't do the trick
[14:48] <bullgard4_> Daniel0108: A friend of mine had a hard time to find a solution for the same problem but having bought another computer. --  I wish you good luck.
[14:48] <Udonnome> hm is it normal to take like 30min to complete teh ubuntu installer...?
[14:48] <ghufran> dr_willis, yes, searched about that. there was something with bzr. and launcher editor. didnt work for me. bugged out while installing
[14:48] <bullgard4_> Daniel0108: A friend of mine had a hard time to find a solution for the same problem but having bought another computer. --  I wish you good luck.
[14:48] <Daniel0108> bullgard4_: thank you :)
[14:49] <bullgard4_> [Natty] I set up a new computer. Nautilus opens new directories in the »Icons« view. How can I make Nautilus to open new directories always in the »List« view?
[14:50] <dr_willis> ghufran,  not sure what you were following  this is what i was looking at --> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/how-to-change-application-indicators.html
[14:50] <theadmin> bullgard4_: File management preferenecs
[14:52] <bullgard4_> theadmin: Thank you very much for your help.
[14:52] <Daniel0108> bullgard4_: I should have HDMI, but it doesn't work either :/
[14:52] <theadmin> bullgard4_: No problem
[14:53] <Udonnome> guy,a little help please
[14:53] <alfa77> could somebody help me with the problem with flash plugin, please?
[14:54] <Abhijit> Udonnome, ask
[14:54] <BluesKaj> alfa77, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[14:55] <MIH1406> Hi, I have windows and ubuntu but I want to start to Ubuntu directly without the waiting menu
[14:55] <Udonnome> Abhijit,i am installing ubuntu under windows
[14:55] <skeleton__> I have files on usb
[14:55] <alfa77> BluesKaj, no
[14:55] <Abhijit> !grub | MIH1406 see the doc
[14:55] <wols> MIH1406: set the timeout to 0 I guess
[14:55] <skeleton__> I want a way to connect them to a folder /var/www
[14:55] <Abhijit> !details | Udonnome
[14:56] <MIH1406> wols, how?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> skeleton__, make sure you don't wipe your windows partition if you want to keep windows
[14:56] <alfa77> I have ubuntu 10.10, not 11.04
[14:56] <Udonnome> the insteller went fine,and i booted up ubuntu,and it show me some another windows ti install on it,but it takes alot ofg time like 20 mins and it havent done yet
[14:56] <wols> MIH1406: /etc/default/grub
[14:56] <MIH1406> thanks, bye
[14:56] <Udonnome> is this normal?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> alfa77, same applies , install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:57] <alfa77> ok, I'll try
[14:57] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | alfa77
[14:57] <alfa77> BluesKaj, thanks
[14:58] <Udonnome> AHA,finaly :D
[14:59] <skeleton__> BluesKaj, I did not understand what you wrote
[15:00] <skeleton__> I have files on the usb link to them I want to work on the track /var/www
[15:01] <suigeneris> it seems these days openssh has a security breach. what do you guys recommend instead?
[15:01] <alasdair1> i ran man interfaces as suggested and have been totally overwhelmed
[15:01] <bullgard4_> What package provides the »Disk Mounter« applet?
[15:01] <alasdair1> its far too much information for me to take in all in one go
[15:02] <alasdair1> can anyone help me configure my Ubuntu Server to pick up dhcp via comand line
[15:02] <alasdair1> its not on the internet yet and i just want to install the gui so i can crack on
[15:02] <theadmin> alasdair1: dhclient eth0
[15:03] <Nobgul-BNC> alasdair1: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html
[15:03] <mrdeb> vlc is now at 1.10 but 1104 is still at 1.09. why
[15:03] <BluesKaj> skeleton__, now I don't understand what you're trying to do
[15:03] <bullgard4_> Udonnome: Yes.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> !latest | mrdeb
[15:03] <geniu> witam wszystkich
[15:05] <qin> !pl | geniu
[15:05] <alasdair1> just to clarifie, i want this server to be a dhcp client
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: I have 1.10
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ferramroberto/vlc; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[15:06] <alfa77> BluesKaj, I've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but it still doesn't work, is it possible that I've installed some wrong packages too before this?
[15:07] <alasdair1> sudo dhclient eth0 did the trick.  thanks theadmin
[15:08] <mrdeb> ActionParsnip: no it should  be in the main repo. that's the point why isnt it
[15:08] <kaushal> Hi
[15:08] <BluesKaj> what doesn't work , flash on youtube , alfa77 ?
[15:08] <kaushal> is there a way to open terminal using right click on Ubuntu Desktop 11.04 ?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: log a bug. If there are securiy fixes or significant reason to upgrade it then it will be updated
[15:09] <null__> ctrl + alt + t
[15:10] <mrcreativity> can someone tell me why the software center uses do much processing power
[15:10] <alfa77> BluesKaj, on youtube it works and it worked before install ubuntu-restricted-extras too. Other sites like an Italian weather forecast www.meteo.it doesn't work
[15:10] <kaushal> null__: using Desktop ?
[15:10] <skeleton__> BluesKaj, A shortcut folder on the usb to the server apache
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: if you look at the changelog: http://www.videolan.org/developers/vlc-branch/NEWS   I doubt it will be for a while (my opinion)
[15:11] <mrdeb> ActionParsnip: its not a bug. they do this with every release
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: if you use terminal a lot, I recommend you install guake or tilda
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: there is no huge gain from the new version for linux
[15:11] <mrdeb> or use alt f2
[15:12] <Tweasy> ActonParsnip: where should I install stuff? I just downloaded bumblebee and I dknow how to install it either...
[15:12] <null__> tilda is best
[15:12] <BluesKaj> alfa77, what browser ..latest FF has some issues with flash
[15:12] <mrdeb> wel lwe dont know that
[15:12] <mrdeb> thats like sayign there is no diff between 106 and 110 on lts
[15:12] <usuario> ale
[15:13] <alfa77> I'm using firefox 3.6.17 or chromium 12.0.742.91, it doesn't work with both of them
[15:13] <usuario> ale99
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: check the change log dude. Why should it be included?
[15:13] <Lee_Prison> I want to use wget to get a page,but i don't want to put it in the file ,only print on the screen ,how to do it?
[15:13] <theadmin> Lee_Prison: wget -q -O - http://example.org
[15:14] <alfa77> BluesKaj, I have installed flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer too, is this right or should I remove them?
[15:14] <iceroot> Lee_Prison: what about w3m oder lynx?
[15:15] <mrdeb> alfa77: its ok. you can keep them
[15:15] <BluesKaj> alfa77, you can remove the nonfree , the flashplugin-installer replaced it
[15:15] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: You there?
[15:15] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: where should I install stuff? I just downloaded bumblebee and I dknow how to install it either...
[15:15] <Gigacore> Guys how to setup a windows 7 - ubuntu lan connection? Win 7 keeps saying "unidentified network"
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: anywhere outside of /proc.  /opt is a handy place
[15:16] <iceroot> !samba | Gigacore
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Gigacore: can you ping the IPs?
[15:16] <Gigacore> iceroot: I installed samba
[15:16] <Gigacore> ActionParsnip: nope
[15:16] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip, I had a tag.gz or something like that
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: then extract it and see what you have
[15:16] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: and I extracted it
[15:16] <Gigacore> ActionParsnip: I am able to setup a ubuntu - ubuntu connection.. not ubuntu - win7
[15:17] <alfa77> I've removed the nonfree, and it still doesn't work, any advices?
[15:17] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: now I renamed the folder to Bumblebee
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Gigacore: if you cannot ping the IP then yoyr issue isn't samba
[15:17] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: should I do cd bumblebee/
[15:17] <Udonnome> wired,ubuntu runs way slower on my laptop slower then win 7
[15:17] <Tweasy> and then install?
[15:17] <Tweasy> Will it ask me where to install or will it install where it is?
[15:17] <Udonnome> is there a way to ptimise this thing a bit?
[15:17] <Gigacore> ActionParsnip: any idea how to resolve the issue?
[15:17] <Tweasy> Ubuntu is confusing.
[15:18] <mrdeb> no
[15:18] <Sub_Zero> Okay guys yesterday I faffed around in gconf-editor to make the window borders of metacity themes transparent. However upon restarting the window manager does not load. I can use the PC (I am now) by uninstalling both compiz and metacity. But I can move or minimize windows so it's a tad tricky
[15:18] <ajake> Who here can help me with the grub loader?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> ajake, depends what's wrong with gtrub
[15:19] <Sub_Zero> I tried 'metacity --replace' but then the few things that I can see (small chuck of my white panel at the top, icons on desktop and my borderless windows) dissappear
[15:19] <wols> ajake: ask your real question
[15:19] <vivekrp> Which is best Twitter client for Ubuntu?
[15:19] <Sub_Zero> I can still see the background. Same thing happens for compiz (Compiz seems to use loads of CPU when executing it)
[15:20] <wols> Udonnome: for starters you don't install it inside a ntfs partition. that slows it down a lot right there
[15:20] <ajake> BluesKaj: I have a wireless keyboard and mouse, and when I boot, the grub loader doesn't let me select OS
[15:20] <wols> Sub_Zero: if it uses alot of cpu it seems you don't have proper accelerated drivers?
[15:20] <ajake> I've got win 7 installed as well
[15:20] <Sub_Zero> I did actually redo the changes I made in gconf-editor but that didn't help
[15:21] <wols> ajake: does it work in BIOS?
[15:21] <pfifo> when my CPU starts to heat up the fan is supposed to turn on high and cool it down, but after installing 10.04 this no longer happens. I notice I cant find /proc/acpi and it seems that something is missing here, any ideas?
[15:21] <Sub_Zero> wols Not particually bothered about about the amount of CPU. I just want to get any window manager to work
[15:21] <BluesKaj> ajake, then it's not a grub problem , it's startup
[15:22] <BluesKaj> !pm | ajake
[15:22] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: I extracted it unto opt folder
[15:22] <Sub_Zero> I asked on ubuntuforums and tried two suggested methods ( reinstalling ubuntu-desktop and restting unity and compiz) again it hasn't worked
[15:22] <Tweasy> Now to install how do I do it
[15:22] <PeskyJ> My son just bought a laptop (MSI CR620) and we're trying to put ubuntu on it, but the USB stick installer and the CD install (11.04 desktop amd64) both just get stuck on the "ubuntu ..." screen - any ideas how to troubleshoot?
[15:22] <ajake> BluesKaj: What exactly should I change to make it work?
[15:23] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: now, I opened the Terminal and typed cd bumblebee/ but nothing happened
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: ok, see what fils you have
[15:23] <vivekrp> Which is best Twitter client for Ubuntu?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: it's  cd /opt/bumblebee
[15:23] <alfa77> I'll try something else later, thank anyway
[15:23] <BluesKaj> look in startup , and make sure your input devices are enabled there , ajake
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> vivekrp: there is no best application for anything in any OS
[15:23] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[15:23] <ajake> BluesKaj: They are
[15:23] <pfifo> PeskyJ, try booting the alternate installer, see if you can get to a command line
[15:24] <wols> BluesKaj: what has that to do with keys not working in grub?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> vivekrp: its as intelligent as asking: What is the best colour?   It makes no sense
[15:24] <PeskyJ> pfifo: how do you make it boot that? is there a key to press during boot?
[15:24] <Udonnome> is there a way to make ubunto look for my wireless drivers
[15:24] <wols> Udonnome: what wlan chip is it?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Udonnome: it does it at bootup
[15:24] <Udonnome> broadcom... something
[15:25] <Udonnome> at first run ot fond it and ask me to isnatll something
[15:25] <ajake> BluesKaj: Any other inputs
[15:25] <ajake> ?
[15:25] <Gigacore> ActionParsnip: I am now able to ping from windows.. but from ubuntu
[15:25] <wols> !broadcom > Udonnome
[15:25] <wols> PeskyJ: how did you create the installer?
[15:25] <Udonnome> but now hardway kay for wifi is on,but ut tells me its off
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Gigacore: can you ping the name or IP? does your firewall block ICMP
[15:25] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: UBUNTU based distribution not found
[15:26] <BluesKaj> wols, wirless KB & mouse , couls be mislabelled , not starting til after grub loads
[15:26] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: can't install it...
[15:26] <Gigacore> ActionParsnip: I can ping IP. I will check firewall now
[15:26] <mrdeb> is it a good idea to have java installed or is it bad slow software
[15:26] <ajake> BluesKaj: The kb and mouse do work for the bios though
[15:26] <PeskyJ> wols: I used the create startup disk from ubuntu menu on my laptop with the 11.04 desktop amd64 .iso file, for the USB installer and just burned the iso to CD to try from CD
[15:26] <wols> BluesKaj: you talk nonsense
[15:26] <BlouBlou> mrdeb: it's good if you need it. It's bad if you don't need it
[15:27] <Sub_Zero> I faffed with gconf-editor yesterday to make the metacity window borders transparent. Now upon booting up no window manager loads. If I uninstall both compiz and metacity I can see all the icons on my desktop and also execute sh files to perform tasks. Redo-ing the changes in gconf doesn't solve anythign. How can I fix this?
[15:27] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: wooohoooo you there pal?
[15:27] <mrdeb> BlouBlou: is it slow and qustionalble like flahs
[15:27] <pleum> hi
[15:27] <BlouBlou> mrdeb: no
[15:28] <mrdeb> ok
[15:28] <mrdeb> tahnk you
[15:28] <Tweasy> wols: ActionParsnip is afk it seems, could you help me install Bumblebee?
[15:28] <CardinalFang_> Hi hi.  I'm using unity on my large desktop now, and initial window placement is usually or always so close to the left-side bar (sorry, name?) that the bar hides itself.  Laptop is fine.  Ideas?
[15:28] <jyooruje> o/
[15:28] <ajake> Anyone who can help, with wireless kb & mouse boot problem?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: sup
[15:28] <vivekrp> ActionParsnip: I just know tweetdeck in ubuntu. i wanted to ask which are good twitter clients other than tweetdeck and default one
[15:28] <wols> ajake: I asked you something
[15:28] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: Hes aliiiiiveeee :D
[15:29] <CardinalFang_> ajake, no one will commit to helping.  Just construct a good question and ask it.
[15:29] <dr_willis> Sub_Zero,  see if affects a newly made user.   if all else fails you could reset all your problem users settings by deleteing the various .gconf and .gnome files/dirs
[15:29] <Linux4UnMe> who likes unity
[15:29] <wols> vivekrp: there is only what twitter.com provides. they lock out other clients for a good reason: money!
[15:29] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: Ok. So I extracted it and tried to install through terminal, tried to run it also, did sudo ./instal.sh, nothing worked
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> vivekrp: try a few http://www.sizlopedia.com/2008/05/03/twitter-clients-for-ubuntu-linux/
[15:29] <PeskyJ> pfifo: wols: I found the alternate text based installer on the ubuntu site - I'll try that.
[15:29] <null__> me
[15:29] <ajake> Here's the problem, I can't select the OS, when grub loads, using a wireless KB & mouse
[15:29] <dr_willis> Linux4UnMe,  its a work in progress.. i tweaked it some and have few issues with it,.
[15:29] <pfifo> PeskyJ, download and burn the alternate iso
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: have you read the readme?
[15:29] <BlouBlou> Linux4UnMe: #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk about it
[15:29] <wols> Linux4UnMe: you've been told not to poll in here. please heed that advice. thank you
[15:29] <pfifo> !alternate > PeskyJ
[15:29] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: I did follow what was in it
[15:30] <Sub_Zero> dr_willis I think I'll just go straight to the deleting the config files. Where are they?
[15:30] <ajake> Wols: Here's the problem, I can't select the OS, when grub loads, using a wireless KB & mouse
[15:30] <wols> ajake: does your BIOS work with your keyboard?
[15:30] <Linux4UnMe> geez. talk about restrictions of speech
[15:30] <Linux4UnMe> can't even ask a question
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: then you know more than me. I only know bumblebee exists
[15:30] <pfifo> when my CPU starts to heat up the fan is supposed to turn on high and cool it down, but after installing 10.04 this no longer happens. I notice I cant find /proc/acpi and it seems that something is missing here, any ideas?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> ajake, try hitting the lock key to see if it will unlock during the grub load phase ...I recall i had that prob a while back
[15:30] <wols> Linux4UnMe: do you have a ubuntu related problem? or shall I call ops?
[15:30] <dr_willis> Sub_Zero,  in the various .* dirs.. .gnome* .gconf* and perhaps .config
[15:30] <ajake> wols:yes it does
[15:30] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: damn.
[15:30] <PeskyJ> should be a "press some key to do alternate installer" option during normal installer startup :(
[15:30] <Linux4UnMe> wols i'm shakin in my boots
[15:30] <ajake> blueskaj: will try that
[15:30] <CardinalFang_> Linux4UnMe, what sort of response are you looking for?  Assume some "me"s and some "not me"s.  Now what?  You're making only noise.
[15:30] <Sub_Zero> dr_willis is it safe to be deleting those?
[15:30] <Linux4UnMe> ok I have a question
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Linux4UnMe: you can, asking whom  likes unity is not a support question
[15:31] <Linux4UnMe> abiogenesis.... can anybody explain to me what the process is please
[15:31] <Tweasy> @ActionParsnip: Download the .zip or .tar.gz by clicking the 'Downloads' button on the 'Source' page to a directory of your liking. Unzip or untar and run the install script with 'sudo ./install.sh' (or 'sudo -E ./install.sh' on Fedora)
[15:31] <dr_willis> Sub_Zero,  you could awlasy move them tgo some other dir.  depends on how you got things configured..  you can lose your customized settings for cvariouis apps
[15:31] <Linux4UnMe> quick. google it
[15:31] <Linux4UnMe> its a big word
[15:31] <vivekrp> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[15:31] <Tweasy> @ActionParsnip, it seems I can't paste it all here, fail moar
[15:31] <Sub_Zero> dr_willis okay I'll give that ago
[15:31] <qin> Linux4UnMe: Task associaded with pid
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: sounds like a plan
[15:31] <wols> !ops Linux4UnMe is trolling
[15:31] <Linux4UnMe> errrrrrr no
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ajvpot, it's odd that it 's enabled during BIOS and gets turned off at grub
[15:32] <Linux4UnMe> i am not trolling
[15:32] <dr_willis> Sub_Zero,  i recall ubuntu-tweak also had a reset-gnome feasture. but not sure iof it works with  unity/compiz
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Linux4UnMe: do you have a problem with your ubuntu installation>?
[15:32] <Linux4UnMe> !ops wols is a fairy
[15:32] <Linux4UnMe> yes ActionParsnip
[15:32] <Lee_Prison> wget "http://www.google.cn/music/search?q=love" -o ./test.html -q       ,but i get nothing  ,why?
[15:32] <CardinalFang_> /ignore Linux4UnMe
[15:32] <philipballew> Linux4UnMe, TROLL ALERT!!!!!
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Linux4UnMe: then explain it on one line and we will endevour to help
[15:32] <wols> Lee_Prison: robots.txt maybe
[15:32] <dr_willis> Sub_Zero,  what would be cool would be to have your settings synced on ubuntu one. :)
[15:32] <BluesKaj> ooopps ajvpot , sorry , aj-person
[15:33] <qin> Linux4UnMe: In terminal: top
[15:36] <mrdeb> 2wow
[15:37] <npu3pak_> hi all
[15:37] <Linux4UnMe> By default, -mtune is set to be the same value as -march. However, because of the lack of a proper cost model for Intel Core and later processors, GCC versions <= 4.5 actually generate better code with -mtune=generic then they do with their respective -mtune options [1]. You would think that this would easily be gotten around by specifying "-march=native -mtune=generic", but this drops some flags that are otherwise available (in particular --pa
[15:37] <Linux4UnMe> ram flags). ..... how do I set this in ubuntu>?
[15:37] <npu3pak_> give me one shell account
[15:37] <qin> Lee_Prison: wget http://www.google.cn/music/search?q=love gave me 59Kb file
[15:38] <Linux4UnMe> hhmmmm I don't suppose any ubuntu noob users would know the answer....... :)
[15:38] <osse> In Users and Groups I can see my user's priviliges. Apparently I cannot connect to networks or use VirtualBox. The fact is that I can. Are those settings some legacy stuff that's not used anymore?
[15:38] <Sub_Zero> dr_willis Before I go deleting those files I want to check if I changed all the values in /apps/gwd/ correctly back to what they were originally. Could you use gconf-editor and go to apps/gwd and tell me what the top-most value is?
[15:38] <mrdeb> how do you install new printer drivesr for someone on ubuntu that doesnt know how ot use linxu
[15:38] <aristidesfl> Are there any problems using a flash drive with ubuntu 24/7 instead of a normal HDD?
[15:39] <mrdeb> aristidesfl: it will wear out faster probably, unless you set fstab to noatime and other tweaks
[15:39] <ule> aristidesfl: Do you trust in a flash drive for it?
[15:39] <ghufran> in the new left hand side bar in 11.04, i can't start multiple instances of an application? i have to press super key, search the application and then open it from there..
[15:39] <wols> mrdeb: depends on the printer driver. and I suggest you admin the box remotely and do stuff like installing such troublesome printers
[15:39] <CardinalFang> Try #gcc.  Ubuntu would be the same as all Unixes for that.  This isn't specific to Ubuntu.
[15:39] <mrdeb> wols: i dont know how to admin remotelyh
[15:39] <wols> LjL: thank you
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: depends on the model. Some manufacturers make linux drivers in deb which you can instal via ssh
[15:40] <LjL> wols: np, was a bit late
[15:40] <wols> mrdeb: usually via ssh, vnc or the like
[15:40] <aristidesfl> mrdeb: It's probably only gonna read on boot, when energy fails..
[15:40] <aristidesfl> ule: it's not gonna have sensitive data..
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: HP printers should just drop in. You may need to install the latest hplip via ssh if it's not already installed
[15:41] <Sub_Zero> dr_willis Ow well nevermind. I'll try deleting the files now. Pray for me
[15:41] <wols> mrdeb: what printer is it?
[15:41] <martijn1985> Could someone help me with NFS? My client can't mount the server dirs, it gives: "No such file or directory". The dir does exist, as well as the mount location. In /etc/exports on the server the dirs are shared, ports 111, 2049 and 32771 are open, firewall turned off doesn't help either. Has someone an idea where to look next?
[15:41] <ule> aristidesfl: so.. just put it in your /etc/fstab and use it
[15:42] <aristidesfl> ule: what for?
[15:44] <Lee_Prison> qin:it's my fault ,  use the "-O" instead of "-o"
[15:45] <aristidesfl> ule: talking about noatime?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> martijn1985, check the /etc/fstab to make sure the mount entries are listed on both server and client
[15:46] <vanessa> hello
[15:47] <Le_Vass> is there a way to merge /var/cache/apt with /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng ?
[15:47] <vanessa> j'ai un problème: flash n'est pas disponible sous firefox dans les comptes utilisateurs , il ne l'est que dans le compte principal. Quelqu'un peut m'aider ?
[15:47] <BlouBlou> vanessa: english
[15:48] <martijn1985> BluesKaj /etc/fstab on client has it all mount entries listed with the appropriate IPadres; on the server the disk is mounted (it's my /home drive)
[15:48] <vanessa> is there a french ubuntu chanel ?
[15:48] <BlouBlou> vanessa: #ubuntu-fr
[15:48] <vanessa> BlouBlou, thanks
[15:49] <user82> i accidently kicked zeitgeist from the autostart. which command do i need to add to get it back? (zeitgeist-daemon)
[15:50] <ule> aristidesfl: you only have to find your device.. using something like this: fdisk -l
[15:50] <ule> aristidesfl: and put it in your fstab
[15:50] <qin> Lee_Prison: Life... I always mess 人 with 入
[15:51] <Miguel29> Hello guys
[15:51] <Miguel29> I am getting an error when I tr to boot from a ubuntu 11.04 cd
[15:52] <Jaap_2> hi all
[15:52] <Jaap_2> My machine has 2 nics, only one of the 2 works. lshw -C network tells me *-network:1 Disabled
[15:53] <Jaap_2> i try to enable it, because i need it. but i don't know how.
[15:53] <Jaap_2> modprobe 8139cp and modprobe 8139too gives no errors.
[15:53] <dr_willis> what is the 2nd nic connected to?
[15:53] <dr_willis> does ifconfig show its eth1 or a similer name?
[15:54] <Jaap_2> now to a accesspoint
[15:54] <dr_willis> a router?
[15:54] <Jaap_2> ifconfig returns only lo and eth0
[15:54] <dr_willis> both nics are connexcted to the same thing?
[15:54] <Jaap_2> ifconfig eth1 up gives a error
[15:54] <wols> Jaap_2: iwconfig
[15:54] <trelinx> did you add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[15:54] <Jaap_2> eth1: error wile getting interface flags:
[15:54] <dr_willis> thisis a wired or wireless card?
[15:55] <Miguel39> error is:   Busy Box v1.17.1(ubuntu 1:1.17.1-1Outbunt-1) builtin shell(ash)   <initranfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on / //filesystem.squashfs failed: Input/output error
[15:55] <bananstol> ubuntu came with wpa_supplicant, but when i use -Dndiswrapper to run it i get "unsupported driver." how do i fix this, do i have to recompile?
[15:55] <wols> dr_willis: accesspoint is a big hint :)
[15:55] <dr_willis> wols,  tje 8139 cards i had were wired...
[15:55] <wols> < Jaap_2> now to a accesspoint
[15:55] <aristidesfl> ule: did you get the aim is to boot from the flash drive?
[15:55] <dr_willis> as far as i know those are modules for wired nics..
[15:55] <Jaap_2> wired card
[15:56] <Miguel39> Hi guys, I am getting an eror when trying to boot and install  Ubuntu 11
[15:56] <dr_willis> Miguel39,  looks like a bad cd burn.
[15:56] <null__> what error?
[15:56] <dr_willis> Miguel39,  or a bad download
[15:56] <wols> Jaap_2: lspci -nn
[15:56] <CardinalFang> Miguel39, "11.04", btw.  There is no "11".
[15:56] <ule> aristidesfl: buy a new hard-disk driver!
[15:56] <levi_> yes check your cd
[15:57] <thegladiator> has anyone faced any bugs in Natty ,  I have some weird problem like 2 -3 lines in my netbook doesnt respond to HYPER links or any buttons , buttons get disabled in 2-3 rows of my monitor
[15:57] <dr_willis> thegladiator,  2-3 lines of what?
[15:57] <Tweasy> @all: best torrent download program?
[15:57] <aristidesfl> ule: the point is to save energy, I got plenty hard drives
[15:57] <wols> thegladiator: monitors rarely have "buttons", especially not full rows of them
[15:57] <Tweasy> @all: for ubuntu, ofc.
[15:57] <CardinalFang> "buttons get disabled in 2-3 rows of my monitor"  That makes almost no sense, thegladiator .  :(
[15:57] <wols> !best > Tweasy
[15:57] <Jaap_2> lspci -> two networkcards
[15:57] <dr_willis> Tweasy,  depemds  on your needs. Transmission works very well for most people
[15:57] <wols> Jaap_2: show us the output
[15:58] <BluesKaj> martijn1985, I don't mean to staet the obvious, but had some NFS probs and I found this to be helpful : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[15:58] <ule> aristidesfl: so you may get an ssd-driver
[15:58] <Jaap_2> ehrm. mirc => windows pc..
[15:58] <thegladiator> I mean , lets say you have a gmail window opened , or any other gnome application .... when you go the middle area of my netbook - I just can't CLICK on any thing thats in that area of the monitor
[15:58] <Tweasy> @wols, that was kind of weird but thanks
[15:58] <wols> Jaap_2: you were asked several questions and didn't answer one of them properly. I think you don't want help
[15:58] <aristidesfl> ule: you probably mean drive, and, a usb flash still consume much less than a ssd
[15:58] <FishFace> Tweasy: Vuze. Give it a shot
[15:58] <thegladiator> usually you see the mouse pointer moving to a " HAND " symbol , it doesn't happen in this area
[15:58] <dr_willis> thegladiator,  as if theres an invisible window above that area captureing the clicks eh?
[15:59] <wols> Tweasy: never ask for "best" things
[15:59] <dr_willis> thegladiator,  as a off the wall test. You could try some other window manager, and see if the problem exists in it as well.  such as installing icewm,
[15:59] <Tweasy> wols why not? it's a question like every other! I forgot to add "in your opinion"
[15:59] <dr_willis> thegladiator,  sounds like some window/program is there but not seen
[15:59] <wols> !polls > Tweasy
[16:00] <dr_willis> !torrent
[16:00] <Jaap_2> i want to paste te output, only my mirc is windows based. :$
[16:00] <wols> Tweasy: cause it's stupid to do. if you seen the traffic it can generate you know why.
[16:00] <wols> Tweasy: and everyone has a different notion what "best" is
[16:00] <phong_> hi guys, what is WWAN card is?
[16:00] <thegladiator> movie scroll bars , hyperlinks - anything that is clickable , doesnt respond in the middle area of my laptop ----- a span of 3-4 lines
[16:00] <wols> phong_: a UMTS card.
[16:00] <dr_willis> thegladiator,  and the pointer changes  in that area?
[16:00] <thegladiator> it's the weirdest error I have encountered using a modern computer
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Jaap_2, doesn't matter  pastebin it and post the url
[16:00] <thegladiator> pointer doesn't change
[16:00] <wols> phong_: or 3G. depending where you are freom
[16:00] <Tweasy> wols: Thats exactly the reason why I wanted to know different opinions in the first place. I'm new @ linux and I wanted different opinions, nothing else.
[16:01] <thegladiator> it should ideally become a "hand" symbol or something like that ....
[16:01] <wols> Tweasy: then do that elsewhere
[16:01] <phong_> wols, my notebook has a slot..it said WWAN
[16:01] <wols> Tweasy: if you do that on irc you are spamming the channel
[16:01] <Tweasy> wols: why so rude?
[16:01] <dr_willis> thegladiator,  well as a test i would . try it with a newly made user, and try it with a differnt window manager.  I heard someone in here last week with a sijmiler issue.. but never saw a fix for it.
[16:01] <phong_> wols, one is already has WLAN, WWAN is empty slow now
[16:01] <CodenameStrike> I am currently trying to draw on my Wacom Graphire 4 tablet, and I notice that while hovering the stylus over the tablet,
[16:01] <CodenameStrike> the cursor shakes a lot
[16:01] <qin> !torrent | Tweasy
[16:01] <thegladiator> omg dr_willis seems like a problem ----- I have this since I installed natty
[16:02] <dr_willis> is wwan for 3g/cell modems?
[16:02] <wols> phong_: I told you. wireless cards with support from your mobile carrier.
[16:02] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, use the ignore option ,it helps :)
[16:02] <qin> Tweasy: But best is rtorrent
[16:02] <wols> dr_willis: yes
[16:02] <mrdeb> is it safe to buy amd graphics to use with ubutnu with open drivers, or is nvidia better
[16:02] <dr_willis> vi! emacs! :)
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> qin: best is an opinion, so never concrete
[16:02] <dr_willis> mrdeb,  i would stick with nvidia
[16:02] <wols> mrdeb: just as "safe"
[16:02] <Tweasy> Guys, thanks for answering!
[16:02] <Tweasy> Let me read and formulate an answer
[16:03] <Tweasy> You see, I was looking for something like utorrent
[16:03] <Tweasy> Simple, fast and reliable
[16:03] <mrdeb> dr_willis: does the open driver work well enough
[16:03] <mrdeb> i would rather get one where i dont hvae to install extra drivers
[16:03] <Jaap_2> wols > i don't know how to paste it @ pastebin from a commandline :$ i am just a newb.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Tweasy: there is utorrent for linux, it's just not packaged. Transmission is in a default install
[16:03] <mrdeb> as long as it does not poorly
[16:04] <Tweasy> I'm having some troubles with my Internet Provider. Keeps blocking torrents it seems... just can't download anything decently
[16:04] <wols> mrdeb: better than the nvidia alternative :)
[16:04] <qin> mrdeb: Well, have 3 different ATI and happy, my last nvidia just melted on lappy.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: nvidia have supported linux for ages
[16:04] <Tweasy> ActionParsnip: Yes sir, I checked it but found it hard to install!
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, if you don't mind some kde libs on you machine ktorrent is as close to utorrent as it gets or you could always run utorrent under wine , which has been siccessful in the past
[16:04] <suigeneris> it seems these days openssh has a security breach. what do you guys recommend instead?
[16:04] <wols> suigeneris: and you base that on what?
[16:05] <suigeneris> it can't get past out IDS at work
[16:05] <qin> suigeneris: What breach?
[16:05] <wols> ah, great proof that
[16:05] <mrdeb> ok
[16:05] <suigeneris> wols: netadmin says its signature is frowned upon by IDS
[16:05] <wols> suigeneris: hint, one misconfigured IDS doesn't mean anything is vulnerable.
[16:05] <Tweasy> wols: I just wanted to add that I'm sorry if I annoyed you with all the questions and the best thingy. Didn't want to upset you or anything like that. Again, sorry.
[16:06] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: what are kde libs?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> suigeneris, there is a launchpad bug that might explain ssh server probs in 11.04 , but you'll have to search launchpad for it .
[16:06] <Tweasy> !torrents
[16:06] <Miguel29> also, I tried before using the ubuntu 9.10...   anloved it.. .   but I use a dongle to connect to the internet...    I could figure it out for it to work
[16:06] <BluesKaj> !kde | Tweasy
[16:06] <wols> suigeneris: there is lsh from GNU, but I dunno if it's packaged
[16:06] <mrdeb> so the ati graphics ar fast enough
[16:07] <Miguel29> I googled aboutit and found a couple of info...   but didn't manage to make it work...   anybody can help?
[16:07] <bullgard4_> How can one determine the active graphics driver?
[16:07] <Miguel29> I wanna get reid of windows!!!!!
[16:07] <Miguel29> rid
[16:08] <wols> mrdeb: always depending what you want to do with it. if two cards are hardware-wise the same speed, then the fastest driver is nvidia, then fglrx, then radeon, then nouveau.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Miguel29: use the 8 character hex ID in websearches
[16:08] <phong_> is it good idea to remember password in ubuntu?
[16:08] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: damn I'll need a new brain, mine is burning
[16:08] <BluesKaj> bullgard4_, lshw -C video
[16:08] <Tweasy> !help
[16:08] <qin> mrdeb: Well, for compiz and cs 1.6, yes, but never come to me to effectively test it.
[16:08] <wols> bullgard4_: glxinfo or Xorg.0.log
[16:08] <BluesKaj> bullgard4_, use sudo
[16:08] <wols> Tweasy: don't spam.  /msg ubottu <topic>
[16:08] <null__> anybody have any expirience with airodump-ng skriptom?
[16:08] <Sub_Zero> dr_willis Thanks I removed some of my configuration and now everything’s fine again. Quick question is it okay if I remove compiz as I will only ever use metacity. Does ubuntu need it?
[16:08] <Miguel29> ActionPArship: sorry, what do yo mean?
[16:09] <wols> BluesKaj: that shows hardware. no drivers currently used
[16:09] <wols> !pm > Tweasy
[16:09] <suigeneris> wols: thanks, I'll look at that
[16:09] <BluesKaj> wois , and glxinfo is so easy to read
[16:09] <Miguel29> help pls
[16:10] <wols> BluesKaj: yes it is. it tells you the renderer or something like that which pretty clearly shows which driver you currently use
[16:10] <Tweasy> wols: Sorry if sending you a pm offended you, I though you didn't want spam. You're such a complicated person!
[16:10] <wols> BluesKaj: better than not showing at all what was asked...
[16:10] <wols>  /ignore tweasy
[16:10] <wols> *grr*
[16:11] <qin> Miguel29: What so messy here, can you formulate problem again?
[16:11] <wols> Miguel29: we need more info about your "dongle" to help.
[16:11] <phong_> can someone help me how to install flash player manullay ?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> wols, the lshw shows which card , he can then determine which driver is required , I have 2 graphics cards , and only one is enabled
[16:12] <wols> phong_: why? what's wrong with installing it the ubuntu way?
[16:12] <phong_> wols, cause it doesn't play movie well
[16:12] <phong_> wols, it has white box flash all the time
[16:12] <phong_> wols, well can u just show me the  copy  .so file thing
[16:13] <phong_> wols, i did that before it plays well
[16:13] <wols> !enter
[16:13] <Miguel29> qin, wols: huwai 3G dongle from the network '3'    I installed ubuntu 9.1(I didn't have the cd for 11.04 and neither internet coneection to download it)     but then I couldn't use my dongle
[16:13] <Miguel29> I think the system saw it as a USB storage devide
[16:14] <null__> which movie player for ubuntu have subtitle corection option?
[16:14] <bullgard4_> BluesKaj, wols Thank you very much for your help.
[16:14] <wols> often happens with those. use "lsusb" to find out the number ActionParsnip asked you about
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> phong_: copy the .so file to your browsers plugin folder
[16:15] <Tweasy> I guess I'll have to go back to windows @ some point, Ubuntu is giving me to many problems.
[16:15] <qin> !karmic | Miguel29 First you would want to upgrade to 10.04 (still supported)
[16:16] <phong_> ActionParsnip, where can i get the .so file?
[16:16] <wols> phong_: from adobe
[16:16] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, don't threaten , that won't help you
[16:16] <Miguel29> being a newbie in ubuntu, I don't know what you mean with that   lsusb       and what number did ActionParship mean?
[16:16] <phong_> wols, got it thanks
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> phong_: from the tar.gz file from adobe. Why not use the package in the repos??
[16:17] <phong_> ActionParsnip, i got the .so, now where is the plug in folder locate?
[16:17] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: not theatning just stating the facts and trying to pass a little of the huge frustration I'm feeling right now
[16:17] <BluesKaj> Miguel29, open a terminal and type , lsusb
[16:17] <qin> Miguel29: Second: Post on paste.ubuntu.com output of lsusb and dmesg (replug device before dmesg)
[16:17] <wols> Miguel29: run lsusb in a terminal. and it will give you a number like this xxxx:xxxx that's what's needed
[16:17] <Tweasy> threatning*
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> phong_: which browser do you use?
[16:17] <phong_> firefox
[16:17] <zerosniper> hi guys
[16:17] <mun_> hi
[16:17] <phong_> the default ubuntu browser
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> phong_: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins    put it in there
[16:17] <mun_> does anyone know how to rotate only one screen 90 degrees and have compiz?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> phong_: default means little in Ubuntu ;)
[16:18] <thegladiator> what would be a good window manager to install dr_willis and is this a problem with window manager ? or gnome control thing ?
[16:18] <th0r> Tweasy: I have been in here for over ten minutes. I have seen you whine, threaten, apologize...why don't you just ask the question and save everyone a lot of aggravation?
[16:18] <zerosniper> i wanted to install a desktop on my server so i ran "sudo aptitude  install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop"
[16:18] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, don't let some knowitall troll bother you ,....we get alot of those here on weekends ..let's start over
[16:18] <zerosniper> how long should this take on average?
[16:19] <phong_> ActionParsnip, how can i view with '.' folder?
[16:19] <wols> zerosniper: mainly depends on your network connection
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> phong_: press CRL+H
[16:19] <zerosniper> ok
[16:19] <wols> phong_: ls -al
[16:19] <qin> Tweasy: Dont worry, all of them are coffee fanatics.
[16:19] <phong_> ok thanks
[16:19] <zerosniper> what does CRL+H do?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> zerosniper: why didn't you just install the desktop OS if that's what you wanted?
[16:19] <Tweasy> th0r, BluesKaj, qin: thanks a lot, I actually feal better! (Seriously.)
[16:19] <zerosniper> its a hotspot gateway running with freeradius
[16:19] <th0r> Tweasy: and still no question
[16:20] <phong_> ActionParsnip, thanks, it works..i saw the hidden folder ;)
[16:20] <zerosniper> the desktop is just for quick and easy access for some tasks
[16:20] <phong_> thanks u so much
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> phong_: cool
[16:20] <wols> zerosniper: which begs the questiong why the heck it needs GUI
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, I didn't see your issue earlier , perhaps you could repeat it , we'll try to help
[16:20] <phong_> ActionParsnip, video play smoothly now...i love you ..thanks
[16:21] <Miguel29> ActionParsnip, blueskaj, qin, wols:  thanks very much for your help.   I give it a try and be back....cheers!
[16:21] <zerosniper> because.  I am a windows geek by trade.  This is pretty much my first experience with Linux.  Somethins when trying to read documents and do other tasks i have gotten stuck in the command line and the only way I have found to get out of thoes positions is to reboot
[16:21] <wols> Miguel29: are you in windows right now?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Miguel29: np man
[16:21] <zerosniper> i want a solution that can help me bridge the gap and learn
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> phong_: hehe
[16:21] <qin> Tweasy: You could try deluge (much better than transmission) and see if torrents are faster. use torrent for ubuntu image to check it.
[16:21] <Miguel29> wols: yes, unfortunately    haha
[16:21] <delinquentme> command to unpackage a tar.gz?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: tar zxvf file
[16:21] <wols> Miguel29: windows shows this USB ID in device manager as well. but fairly hidden
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: or you can install unp and use it for all archives ;)
[16:22] <Miguel29> actually, I ve got internet connectivity problems...   my dongle keeps on disconnecting
[16:22] <PeskyJ> alternate installer works great :)
[16:22] <PeskyJ> it should be the default
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Miguel29: when it drops, run:  dmesg | tail    it may give clues
[16:22] <wols> PeskyJ: not as userfriendly
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> PeskyJ: it can be
[16:22] <qin> Miguel29: On battery, or main?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> PeskyJ: just download the alternate instead of desktop
[16:22] <delinquentme> what makes something "slackware"
[16:23] <delinquentme> ?
[16:23] <zerosniper> now my desktop installation has finished... how to i load the desktop enviroment? lol
[16:23] <Nisstyre> yes
[16:23] <PeskyJ> yeah, I got it - it works great whereas the desktop version didn't work
[16:23] <dr_willis> !info unp | delinquentme
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: it'll be a distro based on slackware
[16:23] <damian_-_> hi, anyone know how to install a windows game with 6 cd's, basically, wine is using the cd so i cant unmount it to  insert the second when installer asks for it
[16:23] <PeskyJ> I guess it depends on the hardware
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> damian_-_: playonlinux may help
[16:23] <Miguel29> wols: I only found   HUAWEI MObile Connect - 3G PC UI Interface (COM5)
[16:24] <dr_willis> damian_-_,  copy all the cds to a directory. cd to the directory... wine setup.exe  (or whatever its called)
[16:24] <Miguel29> under device manager
[16:24] <Tweasy> qin, th0r, BluesKaj PROBLEM1: After installing Ubuntu today @ my Sony Vaio VGN-Z51WG/B I found out that the switch from Intel to NVIDIA GPU is not working. I think everything else is working but, I wanted the switch to work. Any ideas? Someone told me to install a program called Bumblebee which I tried and couldn't install.
[16:24] <damian_-_> dr_willis, i will give that a shot actually. i assumed the games installer would do cd checks
[16:25] <Diamondcite> Tweasy: Switchable graphics is a work in progress. Not too complete yet.
[16:26] <zerosniper> startx
[16:26] <zerosniper> got it
[16:26] <dr_willis> damian_-_,  its an old issue with how cd's get mounted and how wine does it..   Not as big a problem these days since most games come on 1 dvd.
[16:26] <dr_willis> damian_-_,  game copy protexction is a whole differnt problem
[16:27] <damian_-_> dr_willis, its the old driver game. i will give it a shot thanks, copying now.
[16:27] <zerosniper> does ubuntu server come with ssh server by default?
[16:27] <qin> zerosniper: Yes
[16:27] <zerosniper> ok
[16:27] <delinquentme> and the ubuntu command to move :D?
[16:28] <Oer> zerosniper, it is a standard option, yes
[16:28] <qin> delinquentme: mv
[16:28] <qin> delinquentme: man mv
[16:28] <Tweasy> Diamondcite: Are there any fixes right now that I can easily "install" my self?
[16:29] <Diamondcite> Tweasy: I don't think there is a way to reliably use the Nvidia GPU at the moment.
[16:29] <zerosniper> is ssh port 22 by default?
[16:30] <Tweasy> Diamondcite: thanks. Any where I should go to for more info?
[16:30] <qin> zerosniper: Yes.
[16:30] <ule> zerosniper: if the sshd is running, yes :)
[16:30] <damian_-_> dr_willis, not sure if your speaking from experience and are even interested but i also found a handy game for this. " wine eject <drive letter>" or "wine eject -a"
[16:31] <damian_-_> handy command rather
[16:31] <zerosniper> ule how do i check the status of sshd?
[16:31] <qin> zerosniper: netstat -tulp
[16:31] <Diamondcite> Tweasy: I'm sorry I don't know much about that topic, haven't been keeping up with it.
[16:31] <wols> sudo netstat -anpl|grep :22
[16:32] <rewt> service ssh status
[16:32] <ule> zerosniper: sudo lsof -i tcp:22
[16:32] <Tweasy> Ok thanks.
[16:32] <BluesKaj> Diamondcite, what about BIOS peripheral settings , could Tweasy choose to run just the nvidia gpu there ?
[16:33] <Diamondcite> BluesKaj: I have no idea. At somepoint I think there were people trying to force nvidia only, but I don't know how far that got.
[16:33] <ule> zerosniper: I think service ssh status is the best idea for check the sshd status. Like as rewt wrote
[16:33] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: I could try and check if it's possible anyway. Wouldn't hurt imho.
[16:34] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: should I?
[16:35] <mun_> does anyone know how to rotate only one screen 90 degrees (to portrait mkode) and still have compiz?
[16:35] <wols> BluesKaj: depends how the BIOS/GPUs are set up. can work, doesn't have to. D. Airlie I think it was wrote a text about it
[16:35] <wols> mun_: xrandr maybe?
[16:36] <Goliath> hey i tried to connect using ssh somewhere and it added the key permanently (authentication). how do i delete that?
[16:36] <delinquentme> mv libxml2/ include << i just ran this command and i've not got two "include" dirs     what did i do ?
[16:36] <zerosniper> my server is running in virtualbox.  its using DHCP.  Do i have to configure the network card in virtual box to allow ssh?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> mun_: which video chip do you use?
[16:36] <mun_> wols, but compiz wouldn't work with xrandr right?
[16:36] <mun_> ActionParsnip, it's an NVidia
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> zerosniper: set it to a bridged network card and it will appear on your LAN like a new PC
[16:37] <zerosniper> ok
[16:37] <zerosniper> i have it to NAT atm
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> mun_: the rotate control shoul;d be in nvidia-settings#
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> zerosniper: so no router?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> mun_: press ALT+F2 and run: nvidia-settings   and it should be in there
[16:37] <Goliath> ubuntu sucks
[16:37] <Goliath> really it does
[16:37] <zerosniper> Yeah, there is a router on my network, this is just my first play with Virtual Box and Ubuntu Server
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Goliath: don't use it then
[16:37] <zerosniper> i have to learn these little things
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Goliath: simple fix
[16:38] <mun_> ActionParsnip, under display configuration, there's nothing about rotation.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> zerosniper: it will get DHCP from the router
[16:38] <zerosniper> coolio
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> mun_: flick around in the app
[16:38] <zerosniper> will try that in a moment
[16:38] <mun_> ActionParsnip, there's position, panning, resolution...
[16:38] <zerosniper> al08vxr
[16:38] <zerosniper> sorry, my cars reg : trying to put into another chat :/
[16:39] <mun_> ActionParsnip, nope. nothing.
[16:39] <mun_> ActionParsnip, does yours have it?
[16:39] <nina_> can someone help me with my sound issue?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> mun_: try: xrandr -o right
[16:39] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, not yet ..need to do more research ,,it's become more difficult in some ways now that google dumped the google-linux search
[16:40] <mun_> ActionParsnip, but xrandr doesn't work with compiz, right?
[16:40] <bgutom> HI! Is it possible, on Empathy, to become invisible on a specific buddy or group only??
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> mun_: http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/05/ubuntu-enable-rotation-nvidia/
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> nina_: wassup?
[16:40] <thezman60> hi everyone Im new to this so any advice would helpful
[16:41] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: right-o. I'm looking in the forum anyway!
[16:41] <mun_> ActionParsnip, oh, maybe i should make my Q clearer: i have a dual monitor setup, but only want one screen turned into portrait.
[16:41] <pshr> JeanGrey, hi
[16:41] <nina_> I cant get any audio! i have the master audio turned up, but get no sound...
[16:41] <thezman60> hi jeangray
[16:41] <JeanGrey> jo
[16:41] <JeanGrey> *hi
[16:42] <hp> black dots on the screen , what can be the problem of that ?
[16:42] <thezman60> how can i add other rooms
[16:43] <zerosniper> what is the shutdown command for ubuntu server ?
[16:43] <Le_Vass> shutdown?
[16:43] <zerosniper> sudo shutdown -h now ?
[16:44] <qin> thezman60: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:45] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, which version ubuntu are you running?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> nina_: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x .alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[16:45] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: the latest, I think. Downloaded yesterday!
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> zerosniper: that will work, yes
[16:45] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: How do I check it?
[16:45] <bgutom> HI! Is it possible, on Empathy, to become invisible on a specific buddy or group only??
[16:45] <tim_> My sound suddenly stopped working.  Is there a way to reinitialize my sound card?
[16:46] <qin> Tweasy: lsb_release -a
[16:46] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, open a terminal , lsb_release -a
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> tim_: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[16:46] <nina_> ActionParsnip: how/where do I input this string?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> nina_: terminal
[16:46] <zerosniper> coolios
[16:47] <zerosniper> right. im outta here
[16:47] <zerosniper> see yaaa
[16:47] <Tweasy> qin, BluesKaj: Cheers! 11.04 codename: natty
[16:48] <tim_> ok. I typed that into a terminal. Nothing really happened.  Now what
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> nina_: paste it all as one in a terminal and hit enter, upload to the server and a red URL will be generated, if you can paste the URL in here we can advise
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> tim_: it just reset your sound, try sound stuffs
[16:51] <tim_> so go to system, preferences and sound?
[16:51] <qin> Does Xchat have /exec ???
[16:52] <tim_> It doesn't show any hardware...
[16:52] <InitMass> How do I start gnome-color-manager? I installed the program by using APT. If I double-click an ICC-file, then the program starts. But the calibration opportunity doesn't show up.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> tim_: try something like vlc
[16:53] <ClownMeat> test
[16:53] <tim_> How do I "try vlc"? sorry...
[16:53] <Tao> hello
[16:53] <bullgard4_> I have installed Ubuntu Natty 64 bit on a new hard disk of a newly bought computer. I installed also a "testuser" account. '~$ grep video /etc/group; video:x:44:testuser'. Why am I no member of the video group, but testuser is a member?
[16:53] <ubuntu1> Having issues installing ubuntu onto Macbook Pro (5.2) - Using Refit and not using Refit. Booting from CD freezes right away, and cannot boot from USB (will say "Missing Operating System") I tested the DVDs, CDs, and Flash Drive methods on a windows box, and all of them work just fine, just cannot get it to work on the macbook or iMac. Any ideas?
[16:54] <ArmyMan007> hello... my sound dosen't work! i worked with the tutorial on the ubuntu  website and it worked! after restart it disappered! what should i do?
[16:54] <nhjl> tu
[16:54] <nhjl> hi
[16:54] <Bravo> hi anyone knows that page for best linux programs to use in terminal without gui?
[16:54] <tim_> My system under Preferences and Sound doesn't even show a sound card anymore.  There's no speaker icon in the bar on top...
[16:54] <Sub_Zero> When I disallow my panel to expand (and thus shrinks) two things appear at either side of the panel. Allowing me to drag the panel left and right. How can I remove them?
[16:54] <nhjl> ran chkdisk and gave me a log. typed it into console said access not permitted
[16:54] <nhjl> how to access log pls
[16:55] <bullgard4_> !sound | ArmyMan007
[16:55] <dr_willis_> Bravo,  given the variaty of programs out there... that would be a big page.. what are you looking for exactly?
[16:55] <ArmyMan007> bullgard4_: already told u didn't work out..
[16:55] <nhjl> neone know how to access chkdisk log
[16:55] <nhjl> had a few warnings want to check out
[16:55] <bullgard4_> ArmyMan007: I am sorry.
[16:56] <Bravo> dr_willis_,  there was good page with few best programs for every task like monitoring, music etc
[16:56] <dr_willis_> nhjl,  sudo more logfile perhaps..
[16:56] <ArmyMan007> anyone else?
[16:56] <Bravo> dr_willis_, but I cant find it now:(
[16:56] <nhjl> sudo chkdisk then paste log maybe
[16:56] <dr_willis_> Bravo,  cant say ive ever noticed one.. sounds like somnthing that would ghet outdated real fast.
[16:56] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, open system>admin> addtional drivers , what does it say about recommended or active drivers?
[16:56] <nhjl> where are log files stored
[16:57] <qin> nhjl: /var/log/
[16:57] <ubuntu1> I've tried multiple options on trying to install ubuntu on the macbook, but nothing gets me to the install screen. It's almost as if apple is preventing it.
[16:57] <DEVASTATOR> hey all
[16:57] <DEVASTATOR> whats up guys
[16:57] <nhjl> thanks qin
[16:57] <lolevo> Anybody have experience with issues concerning installing ubuntu on macbook, and finding a work around?
[16:58] <tim_> Armyman: I'm having the same problem.  My sound card suddenly disappeared.  Worked fine for months.
[16:58] <Kannon> exit
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> tim_: run the app, use it
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> nina_: did you get the script ran ok?
[16:59] <BluesKaj> !macbook | lolevol
[16:59] <phonex01> guys im using firefox on ubunt  when i use facebook i have to refresh the page manually to see new post and comments and messages !!!
[16:59] <lolevo> ubottu: I've checked that, nothing there has helped.
[16:59] <tim_> vlc nor any other media player will produce sound.  The sound card isn't showing up.
[16:59] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: hang on a sec.
[17:00] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to modify the indicator-workspaces code so that it displays the workspace number instead of an icon?
[17:00] <nina_> ActionParsnip: when i type "wget -0 alsa-info.sh" after the prompt, I get "wget: invalid option - - '0'. I tried to copy and paste but it wont let me copy or paste.
[17:00] <BluesKaj> tim_, type alsmixer in the terminal , the soundcard will showup in the top left . if the driver is installed
[17:01] <ArmyMan007> tim_: what happened with me is that my previous version of ubuntu had a working sound, this ubuntu does not
[17:01] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: I have two Drivers there, both are Nvidia. But I did Install the one that says recommended!
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> nina_: copy and paste the text, if you copy it you will generate errors
[17:02] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version 173) and the other is (version current) [Recommended]
[17:02] <nina_> ActionParsnip: wait, i have something now...
[17:02] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: I have the second one activated right now.
[17:02] <tim_> BluesKaj:  It tells me 'No Command alsmixer'
[17:03] <dr_willis_> nina_,  it may be an O upper case o   or a ZERO 0
[17:04] <bullgard4_> I have installed Ubuntu Natty 64 bit on a new hard disk of a newly bought computer. I installed also a "testuser" account. '~$ grep video /etc/group; video:x:44:testuser'. Why am I no member of the video group, but testuser is a member?
[17:04] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, the curent version is for the "performance" gpu , the 173 is an older version used for the low power setting
[17:05] <nina_> actionparsnip: is this the url you want? http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh
[17:05] <BluesKaj> tim_, sorry I misspelled ..it's , alsamixer
[17:05] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: So, what you're saying is, to put Intel I'll just use the 173? Is that it then?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> nina_: if you read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure   you'll see where I got it
[17:06] <tim_> BluesKaj:  'Cannot open mixer: No such file or directory'
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> nina_: the script will run and give a text based GUI, use TAB and ENTER to navigate it
[17:06] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: then it's a work-around and invalidates the use of the button. Although the button would be easier. Right now the Nvidia is activated, also?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> Tweasy, it could be , but I'm not sure if intel used nvidia chips , they may have I have them on my soundcard
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> tim_: try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[17:06] <IboS> itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100000269&dir=700|1012|1026
[17:07] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: So, is there a way to check if I'm actually using the Nvidia one?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, thanks ...that damn pulseaudio strikes again
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: standard
[17:08] <tim_> BluesKaj:  I get 'install: cannot stat `alsa-base': No such file or directory'
[17:10] <nina_> ActionParsnip: the script executes but i dont get a text based GUI. Here is what I see: Resolving www.alsa-project.org... 77.48.224.243
[17:10] <nina_> Connecting to www.alsa-project.org|77.48.224.243|:80... connected.
[17:10] <nina_> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
[17:10] <nina_> Location: http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh [following]
[17:10] <nina_> --2011-06-18 12:09:05--  http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh
[17:10] <FloodBot1> nina_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:10] <thegladiator_> how to change my window manager ? thank u
[17:11] <koshie> thegladiator, hi, type nameofthewindowmanager --replace &
[17:11] <koshie> Or edit it in GDM
[17:11] <tim_> What was the alsa command again?
[17:11] <nina_> sorry
[17:11] <koshie> The first one is for test without log out
[17:11] <BluesKaj> tim_, , sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[17:12] <iszak> I need to setup an easy way for someone to login and upload files to my server (10.10) preferrably I'll like it to be SSH but it doesn't need to be, they should be jailed to a certain folder with limited shell
[17:12] <bakunin> @theglaidator: the easiest way to change your window manager I think is using the compiz-fusion icon
[17:12] <IAmError> Is there a way to get an "icon bar" thing, like from OSX, onto either KDE or an XFCE desktop?
[17:12] <koshie> iszak, sftp with nautilus / GDM ?
[17:12] <koshie> For the configuration it's not possible.
[17:12] <pfifo> thegladiator_, when your logging in, before you enter your password, there is a box at the bottom that allows you to change the session
[17:12] <koshie> But I don't know how.
[17:12] <th0r> IAmError: cairo dock
[17:12] <iszak> koshie, I don't understand?
[17:12] <qin> IAmError: New xfce have bottom panel made looks like "icon bar"
[17:13] <koshie> When you've a server you can log in with nautilus or dolphin
[17:13] <thegladiator_> thanks
[17:13] <koshie> thegladiator_, np
[17:13] <tim_> BluesKaj: The    alsamixer command still doesn't do anything
[17:13] <iszak> koshie, I know but it's creating a jailed account which I need help with.
[17:13] <DFM> Can anyone tell me if there are good 64 bit video driver's?
[17:13] <koshie> iszak, oh. Remove the shell for the user for example ?
[17:14] <tim_> I ran this script to get alsa  'wget http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh -O alsa-info.sh && bash alsa-info.sh'
[17:14] <iszak> koshie, not sure?
[17:14] <koshie> iszak, for an user like Apache yes. But it's maybe a plus for you.
[17:14] <pfifo> iszak, you cant really jail a ssh, but it works great with ftp
[17:14] <koshie> pfifo, he can.
[17:14] <BluesKaj> ok tim_ that means alsamixer should be installed , now try alsamixer
[17:14] <koshie> Remove the shell for example…
[17:15] <iszak> well either way, I need help setup a secure way for the user to share files either via SFTP or what not.
[17:15] <zaksoldier> Hi
[17:15] <zaksoldier> All
[17:15] <koshie> iszak, I've forget a software
[17:15] <koshie> Hm…
[17:15] <koshie> It's for limited the place of the user.
[17:15] <wols> iszak: use ssh and tell the user to use filezilla as a client
[17:15] <nina_> ActionParsnip: you say to upload to the server and a red URL will be generated, if you can paste the URL in here we can advise. how?
[17:15] <koshie> wols, :o !
[17:15] <koshie> Nautilus is better dude.
[17:15] <wols> iszak: or if you user login in must happen, use "scponly"
[17:15] <aar> Hello, is there such a thing as a standalone, multi-OS pendrive encryption solution? (Something that will allow me to plug in my pendrive into any OS and access my files after typing in a passwrd without the need of installed software.)
[17:16] <koshie> Really, filezilla's not pretty good.
[17:16] <iszak> wols, I still don't know how to secure the accoung though.
[17:16] <th0r> aar:truecrypt
[17:16] <tim_> BluesKaj:  alsamixer does nothing.  I tried 'aplay -l | grep card' and it returns "no soundcards found...'
[17:16] <koshie> iszak, what do you mean by «secure» ?
[17:16] <mechanist> hy everyone
[17:16] <koshie> hi mechanist
[17:16] <iszak> so they can't browse outside a given directory, so they can't execute commands that could be dangerous, I guess.
[17:17] <wols> aar: yes, some usb sticks provide hardware encryption. but lots of them are just snake oil. rule of thumb: if the drive is cheap, it's shitty encrpytion. stuff like ircnkey is very expensive
[17:17] <koshie> iszak, first, REMOVE the shell (third time :D)
[17:17] <pfifo> aar, i think truecrypt is compatible with both windows and linux, and I KNOW gpg is compatable with atleast a dozen OS'es in cluding mac and windows
[17:17] <wols> th0r: truecrypt doesn't work for him
[17:17] <mrdeb> wols: how do you tell what drive is good
[17:17] <mechanist> I don't want to bother here, but I've got a shitting virus that fricked up my table of partitions, and now I am no more able to see a partitions and its own files, even if I have reinstalled windows... Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect just the partitions... someone knows how to help me?
[17:17] <iszak> koshie, I don't know how..
[17:17] <aar> th0r, I had a look at it but I'm not sure how to access my files without having truecrypt installed in the host computer. do you have any links or names to lead me in the right direction?
[17:17] <koshie> And I'm not remember a useful software for you
[17:17] <wols> mrdeb: reviews, papers where people examined the usb key, etc
[17:17] <th0r> wols: you can install it to the pen drive and then create an encrypted folder
[17:17] <koshie> iszak, sorry for the answer but see the man / documentation, I've forget.
[17:17] <koshie> But it's easy
[17:17] <iszak> alright, will do.
[17:18] <mrdeb> wols: huh
[17:18] <MitchHuggins> Hello Ubuntu.
[17:18] <koshie> Just one line in on file to edit I believe
[17:18] <wols> th0r: he said without software. and you need to be admin/root for it to work, even when truecrypt is only on the pendrive. no go
[17:18] <BluesKaj> tim_, sudo lshw -C sound
[17:18] <Oer> mechanist,  paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l "
[17:18] <koshie> iszak, for the directory
[17:18] <wols> iszak: look up scponly
[17:18] <koshie> don't autorize reading for other folder
[17:19] <Oer> mechanist,  paste in paste.ubuntu.com pls
[17:19] <koshie> It's 2 ou 3 easy thing to do, but sorry, I really don't remember >_<
[17:19] <koshie> +s
[17:19] <wols> koshie: and how do you suggest to do that?
[17:19] <wols> !info scponly
[17:19] <mutse> hello
[17:19] <koshie> wols, not to grant the user to see other directory.
[17:20] <wols> koshie: /usr is wrold readable if you haven't noticed :)
[17:20] <mechanist> Oer: let me boot with Ubuntu, then
[17:20] <koshie> wols, I've not understand sorry (not english)
[17:20] <tim_> BluesKaj:   It returns  ' PCI (sysfs)'
[17:20] <bullgard4_> I have installed Ubuntu Natty 64 bit on a new hard disk of a newly bought computer. I installed also a "testuser" account. '~$ grep video /etc/group; video:x:44:testuser'. Why am I no member of the video group, but testuser is a member?
[17:21] <ubuntu__> hi
[17:21] <ubuntu__> i have a doubt
[17:21] <ubuntu__> i am using an acer laptop
[17:21] <ubuntu__> model 4736zz
[17:21] <ubuntu__> model 4736z
[17:21] <wols> !enter > ubuntu__
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> nina_: the url contains your system and sound info we need to troubleshoot
[17:22] <pfifo> bullgard4_, cause the video group is somewhat useless, if you want to 'sudo adduser <username> <groupname>'
[17:22] <koshie> iszak, sorry if i'm not more precis but I think I gave you somes tips, search a little bit or ask on the forum and you will be do that easily and quickly
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: what is your doubt?
[17:23] <bullgard4_> pfifo: If the 'video' group is useless, why die Ubuntu add "testuser" to that group?
[17:23] <bullgard4_> s/die/did/
[17:24] <pfifo> bullgard4_, perhaps video wasnt created when the first user account was setup
[17:24] <tim_> BluesKaj:  Now if I go to Preferences and Sound it says "Waiting for Sound system to respond".  I'm going to trya restart...
[17:24] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: thanks a bunch for helping me out. I'm leaving to the gym right now, I'll be back l8r
[17:24] <BluesKaj> tim_, I should have mentioned the card will show beside , product : somekind of audio controller
[17:24] <ubuntu__> i have an acer laptop 4736z, and there are no nvidia drivers,etc still when i try the live disc the screen is blank actually the os is on but everything is blank or sometimes extremely dim..
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[17:25] <tim_> I'll be right back
[17:25] <bullgard4_> pfifo: I see your point. --  Thank you.
[17:26] <mechanist> Oer: what was the command? fdisk?
[17:26] <ubuntu__> i want to first try out with the live usb so where do i add this and is it possble to add in a live session and the logout and log in again..
[17:27] <zakwilson> Does anybody have suspend/resume working on a recent Thinkpad with 11.04 or an up-to-date kernel on 10.10?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> nina_: run this big command: http://pastie.org/2087821
[17:27] <bullgard4_> zakwilson: Me.
[17:27] <jimms> hi all, i would like to install apache on my ubuntu, can you please help me, i have been googling
[17:27] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: what shud i do?
[17:27] <zakwilson> bullgard4_: which model?
[17:27] <wols> info apache2
[17:28] <wols> !info apache2
[17:28] <pankaj_sharma> !lamp
[17:28] <wols> jimms: apt-get install apache2
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: as I said, add the boot option. Some nvidia chips don't like nouveau on the CD
[17:28] <bullgard4_> zakwilson: I am speaking about Ubuntu 11.04 and Thinkpad T61.
[17:28] <jimms> apt-get command not found
[17:29] <wols> zakwilson: all TPs work fine, except the latest x20 maybe
[17:29] <mechanist> Oer: here's the fdisk -l content:
[17:29] <mechanist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/628829/
[17:29] <zakwilson> bullgard4_: did you have to do anything to it, or did it just work?
[17:29] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: i don't have an nvidia chip ! and i can very easily run ubuntu 10.04 infact i have 10.04 installed and working fine
[17:30] <mechanist> someone can help me? a virus screwed my partitions in windows, and now I cannot acces to my data anymore via Ubunti
[17:30] <bullgard4_> zakwilson: It just worked and works. "Out of the box" so to say. I did no upgrade but a clean install. 64 bit.
[17:30] <wols> mechanist: can you boot your ubuntu?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: why fix it then?
[17:30] <mechanist> wols Im in live cd now, ubuntu
[17:30] <zakwilson> wols: They may work, but they don't all work trouble-free out of the box without tinkering. My W500 will not suspend, as of a kernel update to 10.10. I kept using the old kernel on 10.10 and hoped 11.04 would fix things. It did not.
[17:30] <wols> mechanist: that's not what I asked
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: you may need to boot option: nomodeset   if its a non-nvidia chip
[17:31] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: oh no i don't want to fix i just want to try 11.04 and its not working
[17:31] <wols> !fixmbr > mechanist
[17:31] <mechanist> wols I don't know what you mean; ubuntu loads in live cd, I have not installed it in the hard disk
[17:31] <tim_>  BluesKaj:  Restarted the system and still no soundcard found.  Any other suggestions?
[17:31] <jimms> guys what can i use instead of apt-get ? because that doesn't work
[17:31] <wols> mechanist: so you want to use ubuntu to do what?
[17:32] <ubuntu__> i tried nomodeset and it boots fine but in low graphics mode
[17:32] <mechanist> wols to recover my partitions.... interesting this fixmbr
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> jimms: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade      Thanks
[17:32] <io> jimms: explain "doesn't work"
[17:32] <mechanist> wols: how can I use it?
[17:32] <wols> jimms: ls -l /usr/bin/apt-get
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: thats fine, get updated and it may help
[17:32] <mrdeb> why dont you log in with live usb and fix your paritions
[17:32] <BluesKaj> tim_, I should have mentioned the card will show beside , product : somekind of audio controller
[17:32] <wols> mechanist: we don't support windows here. ew don't know what things a windows virus does
[17:33] <jimms> wols: No such file or directory
[17:33] <ubuntu__> no i updated in live mode and then  log out and log in it doesn't work out..
[17:33] <BluesKaj> after doing lshw -C sound , tim_
[17:33] <mechanist> wols: ok let's talk of general data, not of windows anymore now. How can I recover those data? I can recover a NTFS partitions with this fixmbr command?
[17:34] <wols> mechanist: you can't. as I said: we support Ubuntu and troubleshoot ubuntu problems. NOT windows problems. if your data is gone, restore from backups
[17:34] <BluesKaj> gotta go...other stuff to do today
[17:34] <milamber> jimms: then something is very broken
[17:34] <jimms> io: apt-get command not found
[17:34] <wols> mechanist: I was under the assumption you ran ubuntu. for a ubuntu user this fixmbr factoid can help. it cannot help a windows user to recover data
[17:34] <mechanist> wols: I don't have any backup, unluckily, is there a way to fix the master boot record with ubuntu?
[17:34] <wols> mechanist: yes. as there is with a windows cd. the package "mbr" can do it
[17:34] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: update did not help i tried ..
[17:35] <itaylor57> jimms, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:35] <mechanist> wols: I AM running ubuntu, I am under ubuntu now
[17:35] <mechanist> live cd
[17:35] <wols> ubuntu__: have you tried the alternate installer to install ubuntu?
[17:35] <tim_> BluesKaj:  It says  'Warning: you should run this program as a super-user.  then the same thing 'CPUID' then PCI (sysfs)'
[17:35] <wols> !info mbr
[17:35] <mechanist> ok then I'll search some documentation about this fixmbr
[17:35] <io> jimms: can you open the package manager GUI?
[17:35] <wols> mechanist: this can write a default, windows compatible MBR in ubuntu
[17:35] <jimms> ah it's a redhat enterprise linux server releae 5.6
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: what video chip do you use?
[17:36] <wols> mechanist: fixmbr (at least the one in ubuntu) will NOT help you. AT ALL. it will make it worse
[17:36] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: intel GMA
[17:36] <io> jimms: then ask in redhat support, not ubuntu
[17:36] <milamber> jimms: we don't support redhat (they use yum, not apt)
[17:36] <jimms> io: and the rest ok thank you and sorry because i am in the wrong chan
[17:36] <jimms> ok i will join there
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: i'm not so good with those, can you give the output of: lspci | grep -i vga; lsb_release -d       Thanks
[17:37] <thevishy> i botched up my computer after I installed a window manager called
[17:37] <ubuntu__> wols: i haven't tried the alternate disc but i can install with live disc also but the problem remains that the os always boots in low graphics mode..
[17:37] <thevishy> xmonad ...
[17:38] <thevishy> has anyone had this problem with xmonad ?
[17:38] <io> jimms: their IRC channel is #redhat
[17:38] <wols> ubuntu__: you should check your Xorg.0.log then. also: do you use a sandy bridge CPU?
[17:38] <wols> thevishy: depends what you mean with "Botched up"
[17:38] <jimms> ok thanks
[17:38] <eb3ha4el> is there any difference except the pretty case between external HDD and normal HDD that you put in bareborn PC??
[17:38] <eddie> .
[17:38] <thevishy> wols : I just cant login to my user session anymore , I am not in recovery mode as root user
[17:38] <wols> eb3ha4el: ##hardware
[17:39] <wols> thevishy: what happens if you try to login?
[17:39] <eb3ha4el> wols: can you explain bit further?
[17:39] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[17:39] <thevishy> It hangs when I use my user name
[17:39] <wols> eb3ha4el: hardware questions are OT here. the channel for them is ##hardware.  /join ##hardware
[17:39] <eb3ha4el> wols: thanks
[17:39] <thevishy> you need to join #hardware eb3ha4el , here its different help
[17:40] <mrdeb> is it a good idea to avoid version 11.04 for a while since it is unstable and a first experiment with unity adn use the more mature 10.10
[17:40] <wols> thevishy: press ctrl+alt+f2, login and apt-get remove xmonad again. also check ~/.xsession-errors
[17:40] <eb3ha4el> thevishy: sure. thanks... I just tend to ask everything here...
[17:40] <wols> mrdeb: if you don't want 11.04 and use something more stable, use 10.04. it's called LTS for a reason
[17:41] <mrdeb> wols: lts performs lower than 10.10 so no thanks
[17:41] <ubuntu__> wols: i don;t have sandy bridge, i am using 10.04 and its working fine the problem is when i try ubuntu 11.04, infact i also tried fedora 15 the new version and i faced the same prob.
[17:41] <wols> ah, you have sns then
[17:41] <mrdeb> what is wrong with sandy bridge ubuntu__
[17:41] <wols> ubuntu__: then answer ActionParsnip
[17:42] <wols> mrdeb: support for its GMA chips is a bit iffy and unfinished
[17:42] <wols> to be expected, all linux distros have it to some degree. it's bleeding edge hardware after all
[17:43] <thevishy> is it possible to remove the users setting ?
[17:43] <ubuntu__> mrdeb: there's no problem with sandy bridge, the prob is with 11.04 ubuntu not working on my laptop acer 4736z,actually booting but with black screen
[17:43] <mrdeb> wols: so what is the safest intel graphics chips with graphics for ubuntu now
[17:43] <rype89> a quick question, if I were to download the ubuntu iso onto a usb stick, will i be able to do a uefi boot? or must I use a cd?
[17:43] <ubuntu__> wols: i don;t have sandy bridge..
[17:43] <mrdeb> ubuntu__: did you blacklist broadcom
[17:44] <tim_> I have no sound and no sound card listed.  I get this message when I reinstall alsa 'grep: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory' .  Is that a big problem?
[17:44] <wols> tim_: and what does lspci -nn say what soundcard you have?
[17:44] <mrdeb> rype89: you use usb creator to install the iso to usb
[17:44] <ubuntu__> mrdeb: i dont have broadcom, also how do i blacklist broadcom
[17:44] <tim_> lspci -nn
[17:44] <mrdeb> ubuntu__: ok, that causes blackscreen before boot sometimes. you do it in grub
[17:45] <rype89> mrdeb: yea i meant that. i will still be able to do a uefi boot from the usb drive right?
[17:45] <Udonnome> guys,how to get a mirc for ubuntu?
[17:45] <jnlsnl_> I have just created a new user, but the user dose't have permissions to mkdir in its own home directory
[17:45] <mrdeb> rype89: yes
[17:45] <jnlsnl_> the home directory is owned by the user
[17:45] <ubuntu__> mrdeb: can i try what u suggest in live mode?
[17:45] <rype89> alright thanks
[17:45] <mrdeb> ubuntu__: yes, if taht is the cause but you said you do not have bcom
[17:45] <milamber> rype89: uefi boot?
[17:45] <wols> jnlsnl_: id;ls -al .  in your home dir please
[17:46] <tim_> wols:  How do I show you the results?  I know I shouldn't just paste them in here.
[17:46] <ubuntu__> ActoionParsnip: what to do next
[17:46] <jnlsnl_> wols there are 3 hidden folders owned by my user
[17:47] <jnlsnl_> Im thinking that i need to add the user to some kind of default group ? =)
[17:47] <seidos> !paste | tim_
[17:47] <wols> !paste > tim
[17:47] <ubuntu__> wols: what to do next
[17:48] <wols> jnlsnl_: it's not what I asked. I gave you a clear command to type
[17:49] <wols> ubuntu__: it depends when your screen goes black. I told you to use the alternate installer, you didn't want to. but I don't care: it's not MY problem but yours. if you don't want to take suggestions, no skin off my back
[17:49] <thevishy> is it possible to change a user's X session proerpties
[17:49] <tim_> !paste | tim
[17:50] <jnlsnl_> wols http://pastebin.com/wxc02aAr
[17:50] <mrdeb> how would alternate install differe, wols
[17:50] <tim_> Here is the link:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/628836/
[17:50] <mrdeb> it doesnt from my experience
[17:50] <ubuntu__> wols: when i run the live usb and select try ubuntu till then everythig is visibel and after that everything is blackscreen
[17:51] <ubuntu__> mrdeb: i agree with u
[17:51] <wols> ubuntu__: so it looks like a X problem. check your Xorg log
[17:51] <ubuntu__> :)
[17:51] <ubuntu__> ok
[17:51] <mrdeb> try holding shift after selecting boot from usb to see what hlds it up
[17:51] <perlsyntax> How do  truemobile 1150 pc card to work in ubuntu?
[17:51] <wols> mrdeb: it lets you easier run/start without X and lets you troubleshoot X
[17:51] <perlsyntax> i hope i can get it to work
[17:52] <mrdeb> wols: yeah but that is not practical bec you have to install the whole system vs a few seconds to boot from usb
[17:52] <ubuntu__> mrdeb: how do i check my xorg log
[17:52] <eddie-128> d
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDell
[17:52] <wols> mrdeb: then you help him. have fun. good luck
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: seems to be out of the box but can only connect to WEP
[17:52] <mrdeb> no
[17:53] <runmike> olá
[17:53] <mrdeb>  /part
[17:53] <ubuntu__> wols: how do i check xorg log
[17:53] <perlsyntax> nope,But i going to try 10.04.2
[17:53] <billy2007> hi im using the new ubuntu how would i get my webcam to work for chatroulette
[17:53] <ubuntu__> what command
[17:53] <yung_son> My desktop seems to be really laggy with this closed source graphics driver, even tho games run great. You guys got some support on this?
[17:53] <tim_> wols:  did I post that correctly?
[17:53] <perlsyntax> ActionParsnip,i not sure how to get it work in ubuntu.
[17:54] <perlsyntax> it work in ubuntu 9.10
[17:54] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: how do i check xorglog
[17:54] <wols> tim_: there is no soundcard listed at all.
[17:54] <ImDexter> how many ubuntu 11.04 users can connect and use icq at their site? I can se the applet, log in, but I cannot type any word, the keyboard does nothing
[17:54] <perlsyntax> ?
[17:54] <Udonnome> broadcom
[17:54] <tim_> wols:  I don't mean to be fresh but to all who are trying to help me - That's what I've been saying!
[17:54] <ubuntu__> wols: although there is no problem of x with ubuntu 10.04 then why with 11.04?
[17:55] <billy2007> hi im using the new ubuntu how would i get my webcam to work for chatroulette
[17:55] <tim_> wols:  The sound was working find until about 2 days ago then nothing...
[17:55] <Udonnome> guy how to find the broadcom drivers for my wifi
[17:55] <perlsyntax> anyone
[17:55] <pfifo> billy2007, make sure your webcam works with something else first, try installing 'cheese' or something
[17:55] <wols> tim_: well, when ubuntu doesn't see a soundcard it cannot use one. check your bios if you can enable the soundcard. the rest of your system looks bog standard so I'm very sure you have a AC97 soundcard somewhere
[17:56] <pfifo> !broadcom | Udonnome
[17:56] <yung_son> Why is my desktop so laggy
[17:56] <billy2007> it definatly works ive used cheese
[17:56] <ImDexter> can anyone suggest any general chat website?
[17:56] <david_> \join #ubuntu-fr
[17:56] <Udonnome> pfifo,you using broadcome?
[17:56] <nangie> what best blog for ubuntu
[17:56] <tim_> wols:  I do have a soundcard.  It worked until Wednesday.  I have the case open. It's there and seated properly.
[17:56] <nangie> what best blog for ubuntu ?
[17:56] <pfifo> billy2007, im pretty sure you have to configure flash to automatically allow all sites access to yor webcam, right click a flash video and select global settings
[17:56] <pfifo> Udonnome, yes
[17:57] <Udonnome> i saw that thing but i dont understand anyting
[17:57] <wols> tim_: lspci doesn't agree with you
[17:57] <thezman60> how do I change the channel
[17:57] <Udonnome> is there a page for more stupid ppl
[17:57] <billy2007> pfifo, ive got it working now i had to go to the new site thanks anyway!!
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> nangie: what do you really need?
[17:57] <wols> tim_: old hardware dies sometimes, but you are free to use any other linux distro or live CD and check if it shows up there in lspci.
[17:58] <ubuntu__> although there is no problem for my laptop running 10.04 why is it creating problem with 11.04(black screen from the very start, i.e after boot menu)
[17:58] <ubuntu__> wols: ?
[17:58] <tim_> wols: ok. Thanks for trying.
[17:58] <wols> ubuntu__: kernel mode setting for example
[17:58] <nangie> blog for ubntu
[17:58] <StevenR> Hi. What's the current standard desktop kernel on natty? (i.e. output of uname -rv and package name)... I'm not sure if I've got it back to where it should be. Thanks :)
[17:58] <nangie> blog for ubuntu
[17:58] <ubuntu__> wols: ok..
[17:58] <Udonnome> pfifo,can i pm you?
[17:59] <eliotn> why does Xchat automatically take me to this channel?
[17:59] <pfifo> Udonnome, no
[17:59] <eliotn> can I make it take me to a different one?
[17:59] <Udonnome> :(
[17:59] <pfifo> !pm | Udonnome
[17:59] <wols> StevenR: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[18:00] <pfifo> Udonnome, if its ubuntu support related, you can ask here, otherwise ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:01] <thezman60> # ubuntu-us-nh
[18:01] <Udonnome> is thiss offtopic?
[18:01] <StevenR> wols: I'm still not sure if what I've got is right though
[18:02] <wols> StevenR: dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[18:02] <tim> wols:  The last thing you said did it.  I don't know why it changed but I checked my bios and sound was set to off.  All set now.  Thanks
[18:03] <thezman60> ok what do I need to type to change channels
[18:03] <wols> thezman60: /join #channelname
[18:03] <erkan^> !drm
[18:03] <thezman60> ok thanks
[18:03] <erkan^> !moonlight
[18:03] <wols> thezman60: and edit your xchat configuration
[18:03] <ubuntu__> :(
[18:03] <pfifo> wols, * Cannot join #channelname (Channel is invite only).
[18:04] <wols> pfifo: don't be a smartass
[18:04] <ubuntu__> < . . >
[18:04] <bananstol> when i use -Dndiswrapper to run wpa_supplicant i get "unsupported driver." how do i fix this, do i have to recompile?
[18:04] <ubuntu__> | O O |
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: you must register then, then identify
[18:04] <tim> wols: now it sees the card but no sound.
[18:04] <StevenR> wols: but that still doesn't answer my question. There are lots of kernel packages installed, and more available to me. I asked "What's the current standard desktop kernel on natty?"
[18:05] <pfifo> im not ided
[18:05] <wols> StevenR: and I told you. if you don't want to read it's not my problem
[18:05] <Mobon1> alright
[18:05] <Mobon1> can anyone help?
[18:05] <ubuntu__> why's ubuntu 11.04 not working on my laptop ??
[18:06] <StevenR> wols: I have read. I don't understand how your answers answer my question.
[18:06] <twinkie_addict> not sure i cant see your laptop
[18:06] <mrdeb> StevenR: 2.6.38.8
[18:06] <ubuntu__> can SOMEBUDDY HELLLP !!!
[18:06] <bananstol> O_o
[18:06] <thezman60> Im not sure how to do that wols Im really new to this
[18:06] <twinkie_addict> it works on my netbook
[18:06] <wols> StevenR: linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic, linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic-pae depending on your hardware
[18:06] <twinkie_addict> 11.4 that is
[18:07] <bananstol> i had problems installing ubuntu on an old laptop, then i figured out why. i had removed the memory chip on an earlier occasion ¨
[18:07] <bananstol> ;o
[18:07] <Mobon1> i'm trying to install the latest ubuntu server onto my desktop, i get to the boot screen but if i choose any options it just hangs at a blank screen with a flashing cursor in the corner
[18:07] <wols> thezman60: what channel do you want to join?
[18:07] <compdoc> Mobon1, what kind of options?
[18:07] <ubuntu__> H E L P : (
[18:07] <mrdeb> sometimes it just doesnt work, so you can try latest of LTS
[18:07] <mrdeb> or
[18:07] <bananstol> lulz
[18:08] <thezman60> well i have a list and I want to be able to check the differnt channels out
[18:08] <Mobon1> like if i try to install or check the disc for errors
[18:08] <Mobon1> compdoc
[18:08] <wols> ubuntu__: yelling won't make us help you but ignore you. what I will do now I think. better people to help than such as you
[18:08] <Mobon1> don't know how to properly work this irc so bare with me
[18:08] <pfifo> Mobon1, how long have you waited, it takes a long time for an old computer to boot from CD (like 20 minutes)
[18:08] <wols> thezman60: write "/join <channelname you want to join>" without the quotes
[18:09] <Mobon1> i had it going for nearly 45 minutes
[18:09] <Mobon1> i have it on right now
[18:09] <compdoc> Mobon1, it was going? was the drive light flashing?
[18:09] <StevenR> wols: hmmm.. I seem to have 3 of those installed. The #42-Ubuntu refers to me running the kernel provided by the linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic             2.6.38-8.42
[18:09] <Mobon1> see but my friend had an older computer and it installed quite faster
[18:09] <StevenR> wols: package, right?
[18:09] <thezman60> ok I feel so lost with this whole thing but I want to be able to do it
[18:09] <gNewPower> I just upgraded to U11.04.  Did not like Unity at all. When back to GNOME (aka "Ubuntu Classic).  Now I don't see compiz any more.  Since compiz is now part of Unity, does that mean that it is not available for GNOME?
[18:09] <Mobon1> the drive light is NOT flashing
[18:09] <wols> Mobon1: try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#Disable_framebuffer_at_install_time
[18:09] <Mobon1> so i dunno what's wrong
[18:10] <wols> StevenR: dpkg -l |grep linux-image  pastebin the output
[18:10] <Mobon1> oh thanks wols i'll do that
[18:10] <mrdeb> gNewPower: unity is compiz plugin. compiz is there
[18:10] <udonnomeONu> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:10] <gNewPower> mrdeb, where is the config menu for it then?
[18:10] <pfifo> !ccsm | gNewPower
[18:11] <StevenR> wols: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/628847/
[18:11] <mrdeb> gNewPower: it's not installed by default. you need to install two apps to get it to show up
[18:11] <gNewPower> thanks ubottu - I will try that!
[18:11] <Justfigureitout> am I the only one who didn't know that AIR was available on Linux before the announcement to kill it? Why didn't they promote AIR on Linux?
[18:12] <Mobon1> so i added vga=711
[18:12] <Mobon1> after the 'quiet --' bit
[18:12] <illmortal> anyone know how to get a Lynksis AE1000 (2870) installed onto Ubuntu? I think I installed it correctly but it doesn't pick up my 5Ghz wireless connection
[18:12] <Mobon1> in the boot options
[18:12] <wols> StevenR: pastebin your sources.list? looks like you had proposed updates or such
[18:12] <Mobon1> the drive light isn't showing any indication of working
[18:13] <wols> Mobon1: remove the "quiet" bit next time. that way you see what the kernel actually does
[18:13] <Mobon1> oh
[18:13] <Mobon1> RIGHT
[18:13] <Mobon1> it's not like a vga issue i don't think
[18:13] <Mobon1> or
[18:13] <Mobon1> graphics issue
[18:13] <Mobon1> the card is half decent
[18:13] <wols> !enter
[18:13] <bullgard4_> !enter | Mobon1
[18:14] <Mobon1> oh sorry ubottu, i'll try not to spam, just used to instant messaging like a moron
[18:15] <thezman60> hi everyone Im new to whole xchat  so I would like any advice  for useing it
[18:15] <StevenR> wols: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/628850/  I tried the server kernel to see if it would fix an issue, but it turned out to be something else that cause the problem. Now I'm trying to get back to the default desktop kernel
[18:15] <mrdeb> yes instant messaging or texting is bad for the mind
[18:15] <theadmin> thezman60: My advice: don't use it, use irssi xD
[18:16] <Mobon1> i removed the quiet option from the boot options. it's not doing anything.
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> thezman60: looks like you are pro
[18:16] <thezman60> lol not really this the frist time in these rooms
[18:16] <Nisstyre> yes
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> thezman60: use tab to complete user nicks is all I can advise really, its a pretty basic protocol
[18:16] <wols> StevenR: well, the 2.6.32.8-22 is the one you want to boot. and you can remove all those old ones
[18:16] <theadmin> thezman60: Also register your nickname with nickserv
[18:16] <theadmin> !register > thezman60
[18:17] <thezman60> well what rooms/chennels
[18:17] <thezman60> I know how to move around after a few screw ups
[18:17] <theadmin> thezman60: We can't help you with that to be honest, nobody knows all channels
[18:17] <Mobon1> anyone want to help? there's no indication that the install is even doing anything
[18:18] <theadmin> thezman60: I stick around here, sometimes in #archlinux-offtopic
[18:18] <thezman60> ok thanks
[18:18] <balin_> hi there
[18:19] <balin_> en espa?ol?????????????????'
[18:19] <wols> !es
[18:19] <twinkie_addict> join ##linux
[18:20] <illmortal> anyone know how to install a Linksys AE1000 USB wireless adapter... used a tutorial last night.. have it showing on my network list, but it's shown as, "disconnected"
[18:20] <Mobon1> right it appears i've lost all attention to solve the issue
[18:20] <Vino> Why doesn't my new ubuntu install have all the nice vim features like the up/down button working in insert mode and auto complete and so on?
[18:20] <esc__> hello, is there a way to delay the alsa output? i want to "synchronize" an mpd stream and alsa output. mpd is configured to output to alsa and httpd.
[18:21] <wols> illmortal: check your kernel logs (anything about firmware for example) and check via iwconfig
[18:22] <illmortal> Ya I see my adapter on ra0 when I use iwconfig
[18:23] <illmortal> but bad status.... seems like it's disabled or something not sure
[18:23] <theadmin> Vino: You probably run it in Vi-compatible mode
[18:23] <theadmin> Vino: Try "set nocompatible" in your .vimrc and try again
[18:24] <Vino> thank you
[18:25] <theadmin> Vino: Did that work?
[18:26] <dougl> how do I install xbmc on ubuntu 10.10 -> err... why isn't it in synaptic package manager?
[18:27] <coz_> dougl,  you probably have to use a PPA
[18:27] <theadmin> dougl: https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ppa
[18:27] <StevenR> wols: ok, so I should have linux-image-generic installed, and it's dependencies... or the linux-image package?
[18:27] <coz_> dougl,     http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1364-install-xbmc-media-center-on-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-and-linuxmint-10-julia-ppa-repository
[18:28] <wols> StevenR: the linux-image package. so that the upgrades later work properly
[18:28] <illmortal> xbmc is awesome :D
[18:28] <dougl> coz_, k - thanks for... hey thanks alot for the info guys :)
[18:28] <StevenR> wols: thanks, lots of apt-work now to  :) (and to mrdeb)
[18:28] <theadmin> *sighs* Just why... ah whatever
[18:28] <StevenR> *too
[18:29] <StevenR> *sigh* my typing sucks today
[18:29] <theadmin> StevenR: Mine does all the time
[18:30] <dumdidum> hi
[18:34] <cronin> how do you run httpd -S on ubuntu?
[18:35] <grappr> Miami, FL
[18:36] <wols> cronin: run apache2
[18:36] <thunder1212> hi
[18:36] <thunder1212> any one using gnome3 ?
[18:37] <wols> thunder1212: ask your real question
[18:37] <cronin> wols: apache2 -S returns apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[18:37] <theadmin> thunder1212: Used to run it, why?
[18:38] <thunder1212> wanna use gnome 3, currently am usin'  gnome2 on 'buntu 10
[18:38] <thunder1212> theadmin
[18:38] <thunder1212> , wols
[18:38] <wols> cronin: well, apache needs to run as root, otherwise it cannot bind to port 80
[18:39] <theadmin> thunder1212: Don't use gnome3 then, it breaks many Ubuntu things and sucks
[18:39] <mrdeb> why does an application block all other sounds from playhing unless you change from alsa to sdl
[18:39] <ubuntuguy> How can I open my homefolder from terminal, what's the command?
[18:39] <wols> mrdeb: cause it opens the soundcard devicefile exclusively most probably. that's why we have sound daemons to use
[18:39] <mrdeb> gnome 3 is ok
[18:39] <mrdeb> it is incomplete but works
[18:39] <wols> ubuntuguy: "open" in what way
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuguy: nautilus $HOME
[18:40] <green91> ubuntuguy: cd ~/
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: note the words in capitals
[18:40] <ubuntuguy> ty Action, and eveyone else
[18:40] <mrdeb> wols: how do you make it not do that. what do you put in config instead of default
[18:41] <thunder1212> theadmin: u know what, to try gnome 3 i downloaded fedora 15, i even installed it on my desk, the interface was indeed very eycandy but it was not that fast  so i thoght i might just try it owt on 'buntu ; /
[18:42] <thunder1212> what words in capitals..
[18:42] <mrdeb> thunder1212: it is made for tablets like unity is, but works if you have no choice
[18:42] <cronin> wols: i switched to root and ran apache2 -S and got the same error
[18:42] <thunder1212> ok
[18:42] <wols> cronin: mybe try www-data? but I'm guessing, sorry
[18:43] <theadmin> thunder1212: It's slower on Ubuntu
[18:43] <theadmin> thunder1212: Use Arch if you want speed.
[18:44] <RPG-Master> Anyone here good with rsync/backintime?
[18:44]  * theadmin haz a system booting in 15 seconds on a netbook
[18:45] <RPG-Master> I've recently been getting this error with backintime: [E] Error: rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes to socket [sender]: Broken pipe (32)
[18:45] <RPG-Master> I have no clue what the gibberish means. :/
[18:46] <RPG-Master> Also, "[E] Error: rsync: write failed on "/media/Seagate GoFlex/backintime/matthew-desktop/matthew/1/new_snapshot/backup/home/matthew/Documents/Misc./Documents.7z": No space left on device (28)"
[18:46] <RPG-Master> It says I'm out of space, when I have 24gigs left!
[18:46] <Wisien> hi i need virtualization software what do u recommend
[18:46] <grappr> boaz: how do you like linode?
[18:47] <boaz> lost
[18:47] <boaz> *lots
[18:47] <boaz> lol
[18:47] <grappr> boaz: say bye
[18:47] <boaz> grappr: how did you know I use linode?
[18:47] <wols> Wisien: virtualbox probably
[18:47] <grappr> boaz: i'm going to hit your linode machine with hella ddos, i'll run up $5k in bandwidth costs for you in minutes
[18:48] <boaz> ?
[18:48] <illmortal> anyone know if this is possibly preventing me from fully installing my lynksis AE1000 usb adapter: sudo make install
[18:48] <thunder1212> theadmin ar yu sure that i must not uze gnome3 on 'buntu
[18:48] <illmortal> make -C /home/illmortal/Desktop/2010_0709_RT2870_Linux_STA_v2.4.0.1/os/linux -f Makefile.6 install
[18:48] <andycc> boaz: just type "/whois boaz"
[18:48] <illmortal> mkdir: cannot create directory `/etc/Wireless': File exists
[18:48] <boaz> o
[18:48] <theadmin> thunder1212: Do not, it breaks Unity and Gnome2
[18:48] <thunder1212> arch i have tried there's no gui there
[18:48] <theadmin> thunder1212: And many gtk apps
[18:48] <gibran> help pls. The pages on my firefox we browser takes forever to load,i tried to install chrome browser thru ubuntu software center but it won't install
[18:48] <theadmin> thunder1212: So what?
[18:48] <theadmin> thunder1212: pacman -S gnome
[18:48] <thunder1212> ok theadmin i take ur words..
[18:49] <wols> !ops grappr is threatening other users. < grappr> boaz: i'm going to hit your linode machine with hella ddos, i'll run up $5k in bandwidth costs for you in minutes
[18:49] <jnlsnl_> sometimes when I type "ll" in terminal I can see hidden folders and sometimes I can't, just wondering why?
[18:49] <thunder1212> pacman -S gnome will install gnoeme3
[18:49] <boaz> grappr: that's kind of a mean thing to say :(
[18:50] <mrdeb> wols: did you answer my qs about hw to fix the sound
[18:50] <thunder1212> before pacman how do i connect to internet on arch without GUI
[18:50] <thunder1212> theadmin,
[18:50] <wols> mrdeb: no. it depends on the application
[18:50] <andycc> thunder1212: #archlinux is the channel for asking that, I think
[18:50] <boaz> I guess the lesson is don't hang out in #ubuntu
[18:51] <boaz> that sucks
[18:51] <mrdeb> wols: there has to be a name to use instad of default ot tell it
[18:51] <mrdeb> i dont want ot use sdl, bec it uses more cpu power
[18:51] <mrdeb> thunder1212: read the wiki on ifconfig etc
[18:51] <rumpe1> jnlsnl_, depends, which alias the account has defined
[18:51] <chanti> jhj
[18:51] <thunder1212> andycc , thnx andy cc byebye
[18:51] <rypervenche> thunder1212: wicd is nice.
[18:51] <edbian> I'm running gedit on xfce.  I can't edit any of the preferences.  Any ideas?
[18:52] <jnlsnl_> rumpe1 where is it i can see alias? have forgotten :)
[18:52] <Ampelbein> edbian: any error message? anything in ~/.xsession-errors?
[18:52] <wols> edbian: more info needed
[18:52] <rumpe1> jnlsnl_, usually in $HOME/.bashrc
[18:52] <kakashi_> is there any deb package for installing hdiutils ?
[18:52] <kakashi_> or can it be ever installed
[18:52] <mrdeb> edbian: try leafpad
[18:52] <thunder1212> thnx mrdeb, will read wiki on ifconfig but i use a wireless modem to connect
[18:52] <edbian> Lots of gconf errors
[18:52] <wols> ,info hdiutils
[18:52] <edbian> mrdeb: I don't have leafpad and I can't install it because I don't have root! :(
[18:52] <mrdeb> edbian: no root?
[18:53] <edbian> mrdeb: no root
[18:53] <jnlsnl_> rumpe1 it says: ll = alias ll='ls -alF'
[18:53] <jnlsnl_> err alias ll='ls -alF'
[18:53] <jnlsnl_> should just be ls, if i dont want hidden folders right ?
[18:53] <edbian> lot's of errors: vailed to contact config server
[18:53] <edbian> Oh heck I'll just use gnome for now
[18:54] <thunder1212> will i be able to config my wireless modem on arch??
[18:54] <thunder1212> i wanna use gnome 3
[18:54] <thunder1212> ; )
[18:54] <chanti> how do one install a software in ubuntu pinguy remix
[18:54] <thunder1212> when's gnome 4 coming : : ) )
[18:54] <wols> thunder1212: #arch. not here
[18:54] <alvin_> is gnome3 out in the synaptic?
[18:54] <thunder1212> alvin: no
[18:55] <mrdeb> alvin_: gnome 3 is not ready for ubuntu
[18:55] <theadmin> thunder1212: #archlinux
[18:55] <rypervenche> thunder1212: #archlinux is very helpful with arch :)
[18:55] <alvin_> ouch, good i didn't upgrade into it :D
[18:55] <thunder1212> thnx all bye
[18:55] <wols> chanti: ask the pinguy folks, not us. we only support ubuntu proper
[18:56] <rumpe1> jnlsnl_, the parameter "a" is for showing hidden files (with leading dot)
[18:56] <jnlsnl_> rumpe1 got i now, set the alias to ls -l and ill use ll -a when i need to see hidden, thanks :)
[18:57] <Wisien> anyone used or use Solaris here?
[18:57] <mrdeb> wols: well thanks for tips
[18:57] <ImDexter> im trying to install AA onto my 11.04. I get /home/dexter/.setup15604: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, that library is not in the repos, how do I find it?
[18:57] <ImDexter> libgtk-1.2.so.0
[18:57] <wols> ImDexter: packages.ubuntu.com
[18:57] <oCean> Wisien: do you have an ubuntu question?
[18:57] <rumpe1> jnlsnl_, you don't need the -a for ll
[18:59] <alvin_> if i will remove gnome what will be the appearance of my desktop after it?
[18:59] <DamnSoGooD> alvin_: why will you remove gnome?
[18:59] <ImDexter> packages.ubuntu.com, is there a finder?
[18:59] <Ampelbein> alvin_: that depends on what other desktop environment you have installed.
[18:59] <alvin_> i have kde installed
[19:00] <wols> ImDexter: yes there is
[19:00] <arooni-mobile> just bought a brand new t420 laptop.  has a 500 gb 7200 rpmhard drive. debating throwing ina 32gb ssd drive in pci express slot to run the OS off of (ubuntu) http://cgi.ebay.com/Wintec-Filemate-32GB-SolidGo-Express-Card-SSD-USB-PCIe-/370515672077?pt=PCC_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item5644747c0d#ht_2937wt_1169  ...thoughts?
[19:00] <Ampelbein> alvin_: then your desktop will look like kde.
[19:00] <Ampelbein> ImDexter: 1.2 is a very old version of libgtk.
[19:01] <Ampelbein> ImDexter: where did you get the package that needs it from?
[19:01] <wols> arooni-mobile: bad idea
[19:02] <alvin_> if i will also remove kde, will there be a desktop gui ?
[19:02] <arooni-mobile> wols, why?
[19:02] <wols> arooni-mobile: cause it's a PCI Expresscard when your T420 has IIRC 3 Mini PCIE slots. 1 or 2 of them free
[19:02] <wols> arooni-mobile: get a msata ssh
[19:02] <Ampelbein> alvin_: if you have another desktop environment yes.
[19:02] <wols> *msata ssd
[19:03] <arooni-mobile> wols, isnt that external?
[19:03] <arooni-mobile> wols, v
[19:03] <ImDexter> ampelbein, Im trying to install america's army 2.5.0
[19:03] <wols> arooni-mobile: no. your express card is external: it sticks out of the case. a miniPCIE is like your wlan card. built in
[19:03] <arooni-mobile> wols, http://shop.lenovo.com/us/products/Laptops/ThinkPad/t-series/t420/index.html
[19:04] <wols> arooni-mobile: I know what a T420 is
[19:04] <ImDexter> ampelbeim im trying to install AA onto my 11.04. I get /home/dexter/.setup15604: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, that library is not in the repos, how do I find it?
[19:04] <arooni-mobile> wols, :) ok
[19:04] <arooni-mobile> wols, but if i found a minipciexpress what douthink
[19:05] <wols> arooni-mobile: what is there to think about? either you want a ssd or no. am I supposed to admire your epeen or what?
[19:05] <Ampelbein> ImDexter: that version is more than 5 years old and installing that old libraries isn't supported.
[19:06] <wols> !info libgtk1.2
[19:06] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I upgraded to 11.04 and when I did the install froze then I logged on and the / wouldnt mount so I manually mounted it and dkpg --configure -a to finish the install but it hung up on winbind. I restarted and 11.04 booted however now when I leave the computer running over 4 hours without activity the ubuntu doesnt respond
[19:07] <Ampelbein> wols: last release with libgtk1.2 was hardy.
[19:08] <dougl> what is the command to start xbmc on my other display... "DISPLAY 0:1" xbmc or something like that?
[19:09] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: HOw do I completely remove gnome from ubuntu?
[19:09] <Ampelbein> dougl: DISPLAY=:0.1 xbmc
[19:09] <dougl> Ampelbein,  - that is it thanks for the info :)
[19:10] <[snake]> i made an ubuntu 11.04 usb with unetbootin, and it comes up boot error at the bios.
[19:10] <arooni-mobile> wols, i missed what you might have said after i said whatdo youthink...my internet connection here sucks
[19:10] <pfifo> thauriswulfa, you would really want to do a cli install insted, it would be much quicker
[19:11] <wols>  < wols> arooni-mobile: what is there to think about? either you want a ssd or no. am I supposed to admire your epeen or what?
[19:11] <thauriswulfa> pfifo: what is cli install?
[19:11] <arooni-mobile> wols, i just dont know if its a smart thing to do
[19:11] <pfifo> thauriswulfa, use the mini.iso or the alternate install, and at the bootsplash, type 'cli<enter>'
[19:12] <wols> arooni-mobile: ask ##hardware. it's not a ubuntu related question
[19:13] <rafal_> test
[19:13] <ImDexter> has anyone installed this? http://commanderstalin.sourceforge.net/
[19:13] <[snake]> i will try ubuntu startup disk creator instead
[19:13] <[snake]> rafal_, you faile
[19:13] <[snake]> d
[19:13] <gNewPower> Hi,  Can I get applets in the top panel in Unity?  I miss my CPU monitoring applet
[19:14]  * gNewPower is away: Я временно ушел
[19:14]  * gNewPower is back (gone 00:00:04)
[19:14] <pfifo> whats the best way to upgrade from lucid to squeeze?
[19:14] <kezzawd> hi all
[19:14] <oCean> gNewPower: please disable announcing away/back
[19:14] <wols> pfifo: you cannot do that
[19:14] <kezzawd> pfifo two separate ditros
[19:14] <gNewPower> oCean, my bad, sorry
[19:15] <pfifo> wols, should i goto natty first?
[19:15] <IdleOne> gNewPower: look up indicator-system-monitor I believe it is called. there is a PPA
[19:15] <gNewPower> what is a PPA? (sorry)
[19:15] <wols> pfifo: you cannot upgrade from ubuntu to debian
[19:15] <IdleOne> !ppa
[19:15] <Ampelbein> pfifo: you can't switch from ubuntu to debian or vice versa.
[19:16] <pfifo> but say I wanted to anyway...
[19:16] <oCean> pfifo: you will fail
[19:16] <rypervenche> pfifo: Then you install Debian over Ubuntu.
[19:16] <wols> pfifo: then neither #ubuntu nor #debian will support you in any way
[19:17] <gNewPower> is it safe to fully remove Ubuntuone from U11.04
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: if you want squeeze, download squeeze and install it fresh. Remove Ubuntu first
[19:17] <Ampelbein> gNewPower: usually yes.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> gNewPower: yes its one of the first things I do
[19:17] <gNewPower> usually?
[19:17] <kezzawd> pfifo are you looking to move from ubuntu to debian and retain your personal files ?
[19:17] <pfifo> couldn't i jusr sed -i sources.lis and replace it with debian repos, then apt-get {update. upgrade}
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> gNewPower: its fine, pull it out if you don't use it
[19:17] <gNewPower> ActionParsnip, via synaptic?
[19:18] <oCean> pfifo: no
[19:18] <rypervenche> pfifo: No, because it wouldn't work.
[19:18] <Jordan_U> pfifo: No.
[19:18] <IdleOne> pfifo: no you can't. it will break everything
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> gNewPower: however you wish
[19:18] <gNewPower> k thanks
[19:19] <Travis-42> The sshd_config says that you should consider using a non-standard port and says that "one above 1024 is preferable" Why?
[19:20] <dr_willis_> below 1024 is normally reserved
[19:20] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  i have an Acer 5552 but it shuts down by itself quite often.  This happened two to three times when watching a movie!  It is very frustrating!  Can somebody help me please?
[19:20] <Travis-42> dr_willis_, but if it's above 1024, users other than root can listen on the port, which would seem to be less than secure
[19:20] <IdleOne> LABcrab: over heating perhaps
[19:21] <kezzawd> Travis-42: And you should use a non-standard port particularly if you are expecting to connect to your machine remotely
[19:21] <rypervenche> LABcrab: I would think overheating. I had the exact same problem. I had to update my BIOS, because my old one wasn't reading the temperature correctly, and the fan wouldn't turn on because of it.
[19:21] <dr_willis_> Travis-42,  i think that statement is incorrect
[19:21] <rypervenche> LABcrab: I can the same problem with an Acer*
[19:22] <Travis-42> dr_willis_, at least traditionally, only root can listen to ports below 1024. is it different now?
[19:22] <dr_willis_> i think the term 'root listen' may not be right..
[19:23] <dr_willis_> normally only root user can start services that are below 1024
[19:23] <wols> Travis-42: only root can bind to ports <1024
[19:23] <wols> Travis-42: this is still the case
[19:23] <dr_willis_> bind thats the term
[19:23] <Travis-42> dr_willis_, right, so if you use a port above 1024 for ssh, then a non-root user could create a service at the same port, and possibly steal your password if you're not using private keys
[19:24] <rypervenche> Travis-42: I use 20022 for my SSH. It doesn't really matter what you use.
[19:24] <crayon> hi everyone i am using ubuntu 11.4, i tried to update my gnome 2 desktop to gnome 3, after updating packages my unity also got disturbed. help me, i m unable to login
[19:24] <dr_willis_> Travis-42,  i dont think so.  but an attacker would always scan the low 1024first
[19:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I upgraded to 11.04 and when I did the install froze then I logged on and the / wouldnt mount so I manually mounted it and dkpg --configure -a to finish the install but it hung up on winbind. I restarted and 11.04 booted however now when I leave the computer running over 4 hours without activity the ubuntu doesnt respond... suggestions?
[19:24] <milen8204> how to change font of .str file on Ubuntu 11.04
[19:25] <Travis-42> rypervenche, a non-root user, perhaps a hacked one, could crash sshd and replace it with a proxy, if the port is > 1024
[19:26] <Travis-42> if there are no other users, maybe it's not an issue
[19:26] <LABcrab> rypervenche: Like i did on the 5315?  Ugh... why the need for BIOS updates?  IdleOne: Yeah, it's Idle all right... it turns on and off!  ;)
[19:29] <rhin0> what would be causing  a problem with 11.04 (and 10.04) on a dell inspiron laptop where the mouse cursor freezes as soon as you have logged in but the rest of the system is running fine -- have just had to re-install
[19:29] <rhin0> mouse cursor just locks up
[19:30] <rhin0> has heppened after a week or so of no problems with 11.04
[19:30] <dr_willis_> tried an external mouse?  that would narrow it down to a touchpad, or usb issue
[19:30] <rhin0> ah ok
[19:30] <LABcrab> All right, i'm outta here.  Thanks, and see you later!
[19:31] <dr_willis_> mouse is ok on the GDM login screen rhin0 ? but not once the user logs in? that would point to some odd compiz/mouse setting issue.
[19:31] <rhin0> maybe I disable compiz -- how would you do that
[19:31] <rhin0> not interested in desktop special effects
[19:31] <dr_willis_> rhin0,  as a test you could install say.. 'icewm' and see if the issue affects other window managers.
[19:32] <dr_willis_> if it affects them all. then it wouldent be a compiz/gnome specific issue.
[19:32] <mrdeb> dr_willis_: is icewm easy
[19:32] <dr_willis_> icewm is trivially easy... :)
[19:32] <dr_willis_> old-skool
[19:32] <dr_willis_> !info icewm
[19:33] <mrdeb> ok nice
[19:33] <dr_willis_> icewm is just a window manager. I always keep it handy for a 'backup' window maanger.
[19:33] <rhin0> right I wait until it happens again if it happens again then deselect current window manager/compiz
[19:33] <dr_willis_> good for when i vnc into a box.
[19:33] <dr_willis_> rhin0,  so it only happens sometimes? thats even weirder..
[19:34] <rhin0> happened at 5am this morning after a week of use
[19:34] <dr_willis_> You mean a week of UPTIME ?
[19:34] <rhin0> no
[19:36] <Goliath> hey
[19:37] <wonka_> Dr_Willis?
[19:37] <Goliath> hey where is syslog.conf in ubuntu?
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> wonka_, ?
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> ~$ locate syslog.conf
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> /etc/rsyslog.conf
[19:38] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: it got renamed?
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> if syslog got replaced by rsyslog that would make sence...
[19:39] <d-_-b> hey
[19:39] <tonyyarusso> Goliath: There are multiple syslog daemons.  Ubuntu uses rsyslog.
[19:39] <oCean> Goliath: there is still a syslog.conf in package sysklogd
[19:39] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/share/doc/sudo/sample.syslog.conf
[19:39] <d-_-b> Guys, for some reason with y new system build, moving things around n the desktop is really laggy.
[19:39] <d-_-b> games run great tho
[19:40] <Goliath> oCean: ok
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> !info rsyslog
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> its  'important'   :)
[19:41] <oCean> Dr_Willis: hey, you spelled that correctly :)
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> cut/paste
[19:41] <tonyyarusso> He missed the apostrophe in "it's" though.  :(
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> Now heres an interesting bug.... every so often in unity my launcher icons, and top menu bar gets messed up graphics,  The programs i have running are fine. title bar text and so forth are find
[19:42] <tonyyarusso> here's
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> but Unity seems to have just had a brain freeze.. it works but   the icon/text is all garbled
[19:43] <DamnSoGooD> what app can convert a file to ISO?
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  you can make a data disk/iso with most of the cd burning apps. k3b. gcombust, and others
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> !burn
[19:44] <DamnSoGooD> no, i will not burn it, i will just convert a file to .iso format
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  that dosent make sence. clarify what the file is to begin with
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> You can gerneate an iso with those tools.. you dont have to burn it.
[19:45] <tonyyarusso> sense
[19:45] <Goliath> PEOPLE FIX KNETWORKMANAGER. IT SHOWS NO WIRELESS NETWORKS. I HAD TO SWITCH TO WICD OR CONNECT FROM CLI. THANKS
[19:45] <tonyyarusso> doesn't
[19:45] <Firstmate> I'm installing Ubuntu, however on the "Install" step. It does not provide the option to install alongside Windows 7
[19:45] <DamnSoGooD> ah see, thank you doc
[19:45] <Firstmate> Any help?
[19:45] <Goliath> tell kde please
[19:46]  * Dr_Willis hands tonyyarusso  a live.
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> :)
[19:46]  * Goliath squirts
[19:46] <tonyyarusso> A live what?  Fish?  Monkey?
[19:46] <oCean> Goliath: you can log bugs in launchpad, not here
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> Firstmate,  check your disk parittion layout...
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> Firstmate,  if you have 4 primary partitions - you will need to do some work befor you can install.
[19:46] <Firstmate> Check what specfically?
[19:46] <Firstmate> I see.
[19:46] <Firstmate> Yeah I have 4
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> Firstmate,  outout of 'sudo fdisk -l' for starters.  or gparted
[19:47] <DamnSoGooD> Dr_Willis: does bradero can? or aptoncd?
[19:47] <DamnSoGooD> brasero*
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> i seen way to many windows  installs that use 4 primary parittions.
[19:47] <Firstmate> outout?
[19:47] <Firstmate> Yeah, silly HP adds a few
[19:47] <Firstmate> Meh, I'll be back later.
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  why are you even trying to do this exactly? what do you plan on doing with the ISO?
[19:47] <Firstmate> gotta head out for a bit
[19:48] <neotohin> #codeigniter
[19:48] <laza> How do I quickly get a list of all packages that are removed but still configured (rc). I could use dpkg -l, grep, sed. Is there something easier?
[19:48] <d-_-b> Moving things around is really laggy on my desktop for some reason,
[19:48] <DamnSoGooD> i will use in vbox, i will mount it as a cd because i don't know how to use the shared folder :D
[19:48] <ssheriffe> hi
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  shared folders in vbox are rather easy to use.. you just use the proper mount command - im not even sure if you need to install the guest addations any more
[19:49] <mrdeb> is icewm not being developed
[19:49] <mrdeb> last time was last year
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  or just install ssh tools on the host and guest and transfer files over the network. or use samba.
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  its been around for proberly 10+ years also.
[19:49] <Jake1> hey room in ubuntu 11.04 my mouse doesn't seem to click in the correct spot or something strange
[19:49] <DamnSoGooD> i have vnox-ose, so how can i mount my shared folder to vbox? i have in there XP :D
[19:50] <DamnSoGooD> vbox-ose*
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  whats the guest OS?
[19:50] <DamnSoGooD> winXP
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> the vbox docs give the exact commands/syntax to use i recall.
[19:50] <mrdeb> so its ok to install it
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  why wouldent it be? :)
[19:50] <wonka_> you mouuse is clicking to you?
[19:51] <mrdeb> support
[19:51] <Jake1> NOOOO like  sometimes when i goto press file and other things it won't let me
[19:51] <Jake1> there cursor is over it but the click won't work
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  what sort of support are you looking for?
[19:52] <Jake1> its like its an entire line off of wher eit should be
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> they have an irc channel and mailing list.
[19:52] <backbox> HE110
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> but i imagine anything you want to learn about icewm is in its docs or forum posts.
[19:54] <mrdeb> Dr_Willis: if its ok, i will try it
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> its just a window manager..  its not like its going to blow up your pc...
[19:55] <mrdeb> Dr_Willis: just being careful
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> I imagine thers less bugs in icewm, then there is in compiz :)
[19:55] <mrdeb> oh yes
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> its not like its xmms, or bitchx :)
[19:55] <FishFace> Shadows around application windows. 11.04. How to get rid of this?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> FishFace,  that wiould be a compiz setting,  you can uise the 'ccsm' tool.
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[19:56] <safiyyah> I have a broken machine with an initramfs error. It happened previously 2 days ago, but in the middle of a diagnosis it resolved itself. Today, the system froze so I shut it down using the power button, and on reboot, I got the initramfs error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/628040/ when I tried to use the shift key at boot up to It wouldn't go into the menu and I got a kernel panic error message:...
[19:56] <FishFace> Dr_Willis: Thanks bud :)
[19:56] <safiyyah> ...http://paste.ubuntu.com/628888/
[20:03] <mrdeb> Dr_Willis: so icewm has a panel and such. what differs it from xfce
[20:03] <Firstmate> So I have a partition called HP Tools, but I long ago reinstalled a fresh Win7.
[20:04] <Firstmate> Think it's safe to remove that HP TOols partition
[20:04] <Firstmate> ?
[20:04] <Firstmate> I know that wasn't a ubuntu quest, but I figured it was an easy quest.
[20:05] <Freakish> hmmm L1nuxRules, thanks for that wonderful experience yesterday...
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  icewm had it about 10 yrs befor xfce existed...
[20:05] <Freakish> <----- davet
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> if not more.. :)
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  icewm is a window maanger.. xfce is a desktop
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> Firstmate,  its gotten where when i get a  new machine. I get a new hard drive and clone the  included HD to it.. and keep  the original as a 'backup' on a shelf. :)   its amazing how complex these partiton layouts can be on these things
[20:07] <netspy> need to access my modem through the console. help needed on howto
[20:07] <Freakish> Does anyone here have experience working with the latest version of VirtualBox?
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> Firstmate,  you could clone it to a file via dd and keep a copy somewhere safe.
[20:08] <rypervenche> Freakish: latest as in?
[20:08] <Firstmate> hm.
[20:08] <wols> Freakish: ask your real question
[20:08] <Firstmate> Meh
[20:08] <Firstmate> I'll just remove the HP_Recovery one
[20:09] <Freakish> the VirtualBox 4.0.8 version
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> Ok. heres a 'test'  - using Unity,  and chromium browser, or google chrome, go to the  url ->   http://chrome.angrybirds.com/      - here  the unity panel gets all messed up when i mouse into/out of the briowser window. I have to fix it with 'unity --replace'
[20:09] <Firstmate> It won't work anyways since the HP recovery program got removed XD
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> it seems to do it every time
[20:09] <aureianimus> Firstmate, i think hp provides something for that
[20:09] <wols> !anyone > Freakish
[20:09] <Firstmate> aureianimus: for what?
[20:09] <aureianimus> for making the recovery + removing the partition
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> HP proberly has some tool to make a backup/restore dvd set
[20:09] <Freakish> I'm running Natty 11.04, and I'm working on setting up a Mac OS X Snow Leopard VM
[20:09] <Firstmate> Yeah they do
[20:10] <Firstmate> But I can always get a different backup utility.
[20:10] <Freakish> And I was wondering if any of you have tried the same
[20:10] <Freakish> I've followed guide after guide with nothing.
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,   Not really ubuntu related. :) and i think technically not 'legal' either.  ive never gotten it to work either.
[20:11] <netspy> have googled, can't figure how to access the console port of my modem using a console cable
[20:11] <Freakish> It's legal, I bought my .dmg via the Mac website
[20:11] <hiexpo> my  ? is  i already have my terminal settup so if i use ls it will show differant colors for the items  but how could i make it so saywhen downloading the output would have differant colors
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,  i think their EULA says it can only be used on real apple hardware..
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo,  downloading via wget or what?
[20:12] <Freakish> Ah, screw 'em.... but at least you didn't send me an evil command :P
[20:13] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis, yes and like updates etc
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo,  theres various 'log/text' colorizer tools in the repos. but it may take some work.
[20:13] <Freakish> Someone with the handle L1nuxRules sent me a very, very wicked command to use, and me being a n00b to Linux, I typed it in without checking on it's usage.
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> !info color-tail
[20:13] <mrdeb> Dr_Willis: do i need anything else besides installing icewm to move in it
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> !info colortail
[20:13] <wols> Dr_Willis: like windows where "downloaded files" are treated different
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  icewm is just a nice simple window manager.. should be trivial to figure out.
[20:13] <mrdeb> thanks
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> i used to use icewm in vnc all the time. years ago.
[20:15] <rype89> why is it when I try to uefi boot the livecd, it stays at the loading page for quite a while and then end up in the busybox shell?
[20:15] <Freakish> @Dr_Willis: On to my next question though, which is entirely Natty Narwhal... I'm looking to upgrade my BIOS, and all I can get from Toshiba support is an .EXE that won't execute properly with WINE. Any ideas?
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,  if its a dos executable - use a freedos live cd
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,  if its a self-extracting archive. with some special window exe's in it. You will have to use windows of some kind i imagine
[20:17] <Freakish> @Dr_Willis: It has an extractable iso that should do the job, but I don't have any CD's handy a.t.m. Are there any Bootable USB solutions through Ubuntu that might do the trick?
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,  it would totally depend on the  os on the iso.
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,  try unetbootin i guess.
[20:19] <Freakish> @Dr_Willis: Thanks, I'll see what I can do with it. Thanks!
[20:20] <rype89> why is it when I try to uefi boot the livecd, it stays at the loading page for quite a while and then end up in the busybox shell?
[20:20] <wols> one can boot a ISO from grub/grub2
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> wols,  dending on the ISO file. yes..
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> depending
[20:20] <gerson> ola
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> pendrivelinux site has some tools for setting up multi-boot USB's that use grub2 and iso files
[20:20] <oCean> !br | gerson
[20:21] <gerson> na proxima verçao voces vao colocar ubuntu sem efeitos
[20:21] <awallin> any guides on how to install/test the ekopath compiler out there? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pathscale_ekopath4_open&num=1
[20:21] <DrSlony> Help, I'm using a 64 bit ubuntu to compile my program, but someone who uses a 32 bit ubuntu would like a binary, can I compile a 32 bit binary on a 64 bit machine?
[20:22] <nerdshell> how to assign a specific ip adress to an alias , e.g 217.293.117.145 will be Myhomeserver, ?
[20:22] <awallin> DrSlony: vn with 32-bit install comes to mind...
[20:22] <awallin> DrSlony: vm :)
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> I think you can do it without a vm. but ive never needed tod o so.
[20:23] <gerson> voces vao tiar ubuntu sem efeitos  na procima verçao
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> 'cross compile'   is the term used I belive
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell,  one way. edit your /etc/hosts file
[20:24] <wonka_> se voce quiser nos tiramos
[20:24] <pfifo> DrSlony, no cross tools need, just add -m32 to your options
[20:24] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: Ok, thanks, now can you give me some help to make my server send me his ip adresse by mail, each time it reconnects to the internet ?
[20:24] <oCean> DrSlony: I think gcc takes the -m32 argument to compile in 32bit mode
[20:24] <wonka_> gmail comes to my mind
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell,   thats what people normally use  the 'dyndns' service for.
[20:25] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: I don't really get it, could you explain further please ?
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell,  i can make my home machine always be at 'drwillis_lovenest.dyndns.org'
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell,  go read up at dyndns.org
[20:25] <spacebug-> Hello! I have problems with syncing big files to ubuntu one. 'u1sdtool --current-transfers' says written bytes (= total bytes) but it gets stuck there
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> if my ip changes. i have a tool running that updates the dyndns information on the dyndns server
[20:26] <pfifo> Oops! Google Chrome could not find drwillis_lovenest.dyndns.org
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> pfifo,  :)
[20:26]  * pfifo registers drwillis_lovenest.dyndns.org
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> pfifo,  try   http://chrome.angrybirds.com/
[20:27] <gerson> voces vao tiar ubuntu sem efeitos na proxima verçao
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> see if unity messes up for you like it does for me.
[20:27] <oCean> !br | gerson
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> now how the browwser is messing up Unity.. im not sure
[20:27] <oCean> gerson: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado
[20:28] <gerson> voce quer fazer sexo
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell,  my router has a dyndns feature built in. I dont even need to set  it up on a specific pc.
[20:28] <ortsvorsteher> hi. i need to connect a samsung galaxy 9000i mobile device over usb or cable to a ubuntu 11.04 laptop. the only thing i found, there is no connection possible. does someone have experience whith that?
[20:29] <pfifo> ohh was i not supposed to frag the smiley face?
[20:29] <wols> ortsvorsteher: what happens if you simply plug it in?
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> pfifo,  i start that game, and the unity panel messes up..
[20:30] <Gatekeeper__> hello everyone need help with ubuntu 11.04 have a ati radeon 9600 agp X wont start and the log is telling me (EE) No Drivers Available / No Screens please help !! thanks
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> pfifo,  trying to track down why, or even what to file a bug report against
[20:30] <ortsvorsteher> wols, nothing, the mobile device just tells me : to end samsung kies, press start button. but nothing is mounted...
[20:31] <rype89> why is it when I try to uefi boot the livecd, it stays at the loading page for quite a while and then end up in the busybox shell?
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> ortsvorsteher,  this is some sort of Android Phone?
[20:31] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, xubuntu :(
[20:31] <ortsvorsteher> Dr_Willis, yes, it is.
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> ortsvorsteher,  the #android channel may be able to help
[20:31] <Gatekeeper__> hello everyone need help with ubuntu 11.04 have a ati radeon 9600 agp X wont start and the log is telling me (EE) No Drivers Available / No Screens please help !! thanks <----- Any ideas ...?
[20:31] <ortsvorsteher> Dr_Willis, good idea. thank you
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> Gatekeeper__,  install the ati drivers?
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> thats an old card.. it may not work with the flgrx drivers however...
[20:32] <wols> Dr_Willis: it won't
[20:33] <Gatekeeper__> Dr_Willis,  there is no driver for that card
[20:33] <coz_> For 7000 to HD4xxx series cards, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. HD2xxx and later series cards are also supported by the proprietary "fglrx" driver.
[20:33] <wols> but radeon works fine
[20:33] <coz_> ^that probably needs updating
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> well theres a 'driver' for the card.. its just its the standard radeon/ati drivers now a days. :)
[20:33] <qolysdhfnlsyxcmn> ciao
[20:33] <PeskyJ> I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/697063 - is there a way to create a boot disc that works and modify the install such that it will boot?
[20:33] <qolysdhfnlsyxcmn> !list
[20:33] <Gatekeeper__> its the RV350 any help to get it running please
[20:34] <james_1313> I need help with getting grub rescue at boot, I think i moved something while rearranging my partitions... Im booting from a live usb right now...
[20:34] <whallz> hi, i'm using ubuntu 11.04 natty, with unity disabled, is there a way to disable the expo mode/windows scale feature? or at least change it's keyboard shortcut?
[20:34] <DrSlony> pfifo oCean thank you
[20:34] <edbian> james_1313: Are you using 11.04 or... ?
[20:34] <Adamfyre> james what live usb are you using?
[20:34] <edbian> whallz: Yes, install ccsm and edit the expo plugin
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> whallz,  those are compiz featuires. use the ccsm tool to tweak it how you want
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[20:35] <Gatekeeper__> how to i install the open source "radeon" driver <--------------------- ...?
[20:35] <rpk> Hello, I'm using 11.04 classic in a vmware vm.  immediately after logging in, I have the nice black bars and classic skin, then it drops back to this grey theme.  how can I keep the black standard theme?
[20:35] <whallz> edbian: thanks Dr_Willis thanks
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> rpk,  ive seen some iothers mention a grey theme bug. I thought i saw it mentioned at the askubuntu.com  site. i dident read up on it however.
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> I can browse askubuntu.com from my android phone. :) i just cant post to it.
[20:37] <edbian> Dr_Willis: he was more thankful for my help! :P
[20:37] <rpk> oh so its a bug :/  I was just hoping it was trying to automatically adjust to my hardware config (which is low, since i'm in a vm)
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> rpk,  youa re using the latest virtualbox ?
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> oh wait vmeare.. no idea on vmware. :)
[20:37] <rpk> VMware workstation on win 7 x64 host (but os is 32 bit ubuntu)
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> theres some known issues in earlier vbox versions..
[20:38] <PeskyJ> is it possible to boot from some simple image and fix the kernel so that the machine will boot properly?
[20:39] <rhin0> yes PeskyJ
[20:39] <rhin0> you use the live cd PeskyJ -- mount the corrupted volume
[20:39] <rhin0> or you could boot from the USB key -- installed ubuntu
[20:39] <wonka_> be careful
[20:39] <PeskyJ> there's no corrupted volume and the live CD doesn't boot either due to the same problem in 11.04
[20:39] <Gatekeeper__> Dr_Willis, when i use the open source "radeon" driver my screen flashes a few times and just stays on the terminal
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> Gatekeeper__,  i got rid of all my ati systems  ages ago.. well all but one.. :)
[20:40] <rhin0> if a cd doesn't boot it's either a problem with the cd,cd player or the machine (not ubuntu) cds are read only
[20:40] <PeskyJ> it's a fresh install on a brand new laptop, the bug is in the wireless driver
[20:40] <Gatekeeper__> kk anyone else know a solution
[20:41] <wonka_> are you kidding?
[20:41] <PeskyJ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/659143
[20:41] <rhin0> if you have a problem connecting or your machine crashing because of the wireless driver -- connect to the internet with a usb wireless dongle (as I did recently) -- then download the wireless driver
[20:41] <PeskyJ> rhin0: it won't boot
[20:41] <Dr_Willis> a wireless driver bug causes the system to not boot.. that is.. weird
[20:42] <rhin0> I had it recently
[20:42] <PeskyJ> well according to that bug report on launchpad it's in the kernel
[20:42] <rhin0> every time the machine connected it crashed -- I used a usb wiress dongle to download the wireless driver -- all ok
[20:43] <PeskyJ> so it affects the live CD (live CD won't boot) but I installed from the alternative installer and now the machine won't boot for the same reason
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> PeskyJ,  you could boot a differnt live cd. chroot in, and try to update/upgrade perhaps.
[20:43] <rhin0> live cds don't get 'affected' they are read only you have a problem either with your hardware or with hardware/initial ubuntu install incompatibility
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> assuming theres a update kernel out for it.
[20:44] <pfifo> PeskyJ, have you tried booting with your wireless device disabled? My laptops can toggle it off, and theres probably a way to disable it in the bios too
[20:44] <rhin0> it may be an idea to try to connect with a wireless usb dongle -- then download all the updates / proprietary drivers if ubuntu runs peskyJ
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> theres a boot option to ignore/not load spefific modules also
[20:45] <PeskyJ> Dr_Willis: how do you get the boot options? is there a secret key to press while it's booting?
[20:45] <rhin0> f11 or f12 peskyj on some machines I think f2 or even escape on asus
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> PeskyJ,  shift key if grub is hidden. or the space key from live cd when yous ee the man-keyboard imnage
[20:45] <rhin0> its a function key anyay -- maybe del
[20:46] <Dr_Willis>  the live cd boot options = space key at the right time i think.
[20:46] <rhin0> ah I thought you mean the bios options
[20:46] <rhin0> not sure if you can disable wireless in the bios on all machines
[20:47] <colin_> HI
[20:47] <rhin0> one idea would be to put yourself and machine into a lead box so it doesn't connect until you fix it
[20:47] <PeskyJ> yeah - this laptop seems to have a very limited BIOS config screen :(
[20:47] <colin_> i just installed zorin, am i in the right place?
[20:47] <jNovice> hi, I have 10.10, and when I run update manager, it suggest ~700mb of updates - it looks like it want to upgrade to 11.04. Why?
[20:48] <PeskyJ> rhin0: it would still break as it happens when the kernel loads the driver I think - when the hardware is detected, not when it trys to connect
[20:48] <wols> PeskyJ: boot options for a ubuntu cd: F6
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> colin_,  zorin is not ubuntu. its a spinoff with its own support channels and web site.
[20:48] <colin_> does that mean its bad?
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> colin_,  no idea.. i never used it.. you are using it.. so what do you thinjk of it.. :)
[20:49] <colin_> gr8 so far
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> colin_,  it does mean that its not supported by this irc channel.
[20:49] <colin_> basically i was using mint
[20:49] <centHOGG> hi, how do you edit your host file in gnome ubuntu 10.4?
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> mint also has its own support channels.
[20:49] <colin_> but my ati card was causing it to freeze up
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> centHOGG,  gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[20:49] <colin_> someone suggested zorin
[20:49] <centHOGG> thx
[20:49] <colin_> as soon as i put cd in, it had wobbly windwos and desktop cube
[20:49] <rpk> Dr_Willis: found the bug on launchpad, added myself to it, hopefully it gets resolved eventually :(
[20:50] <colin_> so hopefully it wont start to freeze up, and i can keep it
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> colin_,  ubuntu variants/spinoffs are a  getting comonplace.. any real impressive features of them.. are not as commonplace.
[20:50] <rpk> (and sudoing the gnome-settings-deaemon resolved it termporarily)
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> rpk,  egads! :)
[20:50] <colin_> its just like windows zorin is
[20:50] <Scunizi>  How do I add someone to sodoers?
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> colin_,  thats a big vague. :) but dosent really matter i guess.
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> !sudoers
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[20:51] <colin_> like the menu is hte same and everything
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi,  theres spefific commands used to alter the sudoers file. be CAREFULL when messing with it.
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> and make backups.
[20:52] <edbian> visudo   ?
[20:52] <josePhoenix> Does apt/dpkg overwrite /etc/sudoers in upgrades?
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> josePhoenix,  it would /shouild ask what to do if it detects a customuized sudoers
[20:52] <josePhoenix> Okay
[20:52] <edbian> josePhoenix: I don't see why any package would ever want to do that but it is root so it could
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> same as it should do for most all other /etc/ config files
[20:52] <rype89> why is it when I try to uefi boot the livecd, it stays at the loading page for quite a while and then end up in the busybox shell?
[20:52] <Scunizi> Dr_Willis, got it.. I did a fresh install saving my /home on a laptop adn when entering new user name and pass I did a new user entirely.. not my old one.. so I have 2 users for the system but the old one didn't get picked up in sodoers.. the new did...
[20:53] <josePhoenix> Dr_Willis: Okay, because I'm thinking of customizing sudoers and adding /etc/sudoers.d/ or similar. I don't want the reference to that to disappear.
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi,  i think thres a user admin tool that you can use to enable that.
[20:53] <Scunizi> Dr_Willis, probably.. just haven't had time to futz with it.
[20:53] <PeskyJ> if I can boot from another image, how would I prevent it from trying to load that rt2800pci driver?
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> PeskyJ,  i recall seeing some ignoremodule= option
[20:54] <PeskyJ> Dr_Willis: what conf file would it be in?
[20:55] <chili555> PeskyJ, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf    blacklist rt2800pci
[20:56] <Oer> rype89, as you asked before, i don't own a mac,  these pages maybe any help > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[20:57] <rype89> Oer: i'm not on a mac either, just an efi powered board
[20:57] <PeskyJ> chili555: ok I'll try that thanks :)
[20:57] <pfifo> PeskyJ, that's not what your lookingfor
[20:57] <lacrymology> I just installed a wireless card, apparently it works fine, connects to my router and everything, but the system doesn't seem to be using it...
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> PeskyJ,  it was a kernel boot option you could type in from the grub/syslinux menus
[20:57] <Oer> rype sorry, my bad, i asumed efi mac system
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> PeskyJ,  i saw it mentioned on an askubuntu question..
[20:58] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, PeskyJ, I just used this today with 'acpi.power_load=1' im pretty sure thats similiar to what you need just a completly unrelated module in this case
[20:59] <chili555> pfifo, sorry 'bout that. i prolly got here a bit late
[20:59] <edbian> lacrymology: You're connected to a network!  How is the machine not using it?
[20:59] <lacrymology> edbian: I have both wireless and wired, I'm connected through wired now
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> pfifo,  well this was somthing like 'ignoremodule=noveau'  (in the question i was reading)
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> but that might be X specific also.. not for kernel moduiles
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> i cant even find the question now on askubuntu
[21:00] <edbian> lacrymology: What card do you have?
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> goodnight all
[21:01] <lacrymology> edbian: a realtec.. 8515, I think. But I tell you, the card is working properly and it's connecting to the access point, and has it's correct IP address and everything, but the system isn't using that interface for internet connection
[21:01] <PeskyJ> I don't really understand why the bug report is saying it's in certain kernel versions, if it's a module then surely just replacing that will fix it?
[21:01] <Gatekeeper__> hello anyone ... my radeon driver is now working but the desktop only shows my mouse cursor no menu's <-------------- Please help >>????!!!
[21:01] <ImDexter> im trying to donwload games from playdeb. some of them are added to software center, but others wont: there isnt a software package called "whatever" in my current software sources. what do I have to do in those cases?
[21:01] <edbian> lacrymology: Unconnect the wire
[21:03] <pfifo> PeskyJ, You can blacklist a module using the following syntax: module_name.blacklist=yes. This will cause the module to be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local both during the installation and for the installed system.
[21:03] <ImDexter> with what do I open games downloaded from playdeb?
[21:03] <DrSlony> pfifo oCean cmake fails when i try that in the latst ubuntu, however it works just fun when i run the exact same command for the same program on my gentoo machine, can you take a look please? http://paste2.org/p/1476944
[21:03] <lacrymology> edbian: if I do that, I'll drop from here =P. Just by the way, lshw -class network only shows the wlan adapter now, eth0 is not showing there (but it's working, it appears in ifconfig)
[21:03] <DrSlony> Do i need to install anything to be able to compile 32 bit code on a 64 bit ubuntu?
[21:05] <oCean> DrSlony: try installing package gcc-multilib
[21:05] <lacrymol1gy> edbian: ok, it worked.. but can't I have it both ways? fallback to wlan if wired fails?
[21:05] <R4D4R> Hello, I am currently trying to remove ebox (2.0.20) from my computer, but the process crashed while running 'apt-get remove --purge ebox-communications', now when I try to run apt it says "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'", but when I do so it just says "setting up ebox (2.0.20) and never gets past that.
[21:05] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: That's exactly what you have right now.
[21:05] <pfifo> DrSlony, you might be missing 32bit libs for the project your making, im pretty sure 64 bit ubuntu only ships with 32 bit binaraies and no *-dev, so you probably need to build and install your 32 bit deps
[21:05] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: Pulling the wire made the interface 'trail'
[21:05] <edbian> fail
[21:05] <edbian> hahaha
[21:05] <edbian> sorry
[21:06] <guntbert> DrSlony: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingCompilers#32-bit%20Builds%20on%20AMD64 ?
[21:06] <PeskyJ> pfifo: is that in the grub boot commands?
[21:06] <lacrymol1gy> edbian: not really. See, I tried not unplugging the cable but turning the wired modem off. The eth network appeared as connected, but there was no internet access.. that was when it was failing
[21:07] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: Mmm, it didn't switch to wifi?  (I'm kind of surprised)
[21:07] <DrSlony> oCean pfifo guntbert thank you, i'll read and try again
[21:07] <pfifo> PeskyJ, yes, youll have to determine the actual module nome from someone else or google, I have no idea what to actually put there, but it can be done
[21:07] <guntbert> DrSlony: Good luck :-)
[21:07] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: Perhaps because it was still on a working network.  Just not connected to the Internet
[21:07] <Gatekeeper__> hello anyone how do i disable unity or access the login screen to bypass unity only have console mode and sesktop no menus
[21:07] <Gatekeeper__> please help
[21:08] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: I'm not sure of a simple way to get what you want.  I'm sure there are elaborate failsafe programs out there.
[21:08] <guntbert> Gatekeeper__: you want console only?
[21:08] <diytto> I just got a hardware requirement warning that said I can't run unity...
[21:09] <lacrymol1gy> edbian: it's ok, I'm not really gonna do that, anyways, I think. I just got a new ISP and they gave me a wireless router, but when I can get  along enough cable, I'm wiring this box anyways
[21:09] <PeskyJ> pfifo: ok trying it now :) what's the correct way to see the boot log during boot instead of the graphical progress thingy?
[21:09] <Gatekeeper__> guntbert, i have desktop but think ,y display card cant support unity because when i login there are no menu's nothing only mouse cursor want to get default gdm login
[21:09] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: :)   sounds great!
[21:10] <pfifo> PeskyJ, remove "quiet splash" from the boot options
[21:11] <guntbert> Gatekeeper__: on the login menu, type/select the user name and then (before typing the password) select "ubuntu classic" from the session menu at tha bottom
[21:11] <guntbert> !classic | Gatekeeper__
[21:12] <Gatekeeper__> guntbert, how do i do that via terminal i have no buttons nothing to logout
[21:13] <guntbert> Gatekeeper__: you mean you don't get any menu? but you get a terminal?
[21:13] <PeskyJ> pfifo: are we talking about in grub here? I don't see anything to do with quiet splash
[21:13] <Gatekeeper__> guntbert, yes i got terminal want to change through there if possible
[21:14] <dasupergamer> hi all
[21:14] <pfifo> PeskyJ, press "E" to edit the boot command
[21:14] <Poindexter> Is php5 backwards compatible with php4?
[21:14] <guntbert> Gatekeeper__: now I understand, what happens when you type         sudo service gdm start   ?
[21:15] <pfifo> Poindexter, no
[21:15] <PeskyJ> pfifo: my bad - found it
[21:15]  * pfifo starts to make a pot of coffee, bacon flavored coffee
[21:15] <Poindexter> Pfifo thanks. Should I create a different USER group with Apache2 to use php4 for that application?
[21:16] <dasupergamer> is there any different between ubuntu, kubuntu xubuntu and so on
[21:16] <PeskyJ> pfifo: should the module.blacklist=yes be an option to the 'linux' command or before it on a separate line?
[21:16] <edbian> dasupergamer: The DE they use. That's about it.
[21:16] <Guest27303> help! i accidently turn off the window manager on 11.04 when i tried to enable cube in ccsm
[21:16] <guntbert> !variants | dasupergamer
[21:16] <edbian> Guest27303: metacity --replace&
[21:16] <dasupergamer> so they run wxatly the same
[21:16] <pfifo> Poindexter, apache runs as www-data, you sould keep it that way unless there is a very good reason to change it
[21:17] <dasupergamer> exactly*
[21:17] <edbian> Guest27303: change the settings back (so that you can use compiz again)
[21:17] <munis> hi
[21:17] <Guest27303> idk how
[21:17] <edbian> Guest27303: how did you cause the cube problem in the first place?
[21:17] <edbian> Guest27303: CCSM is a good place to start :)
[21:17] <guntbert> hi munis,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:17] <munis> how are everybody today
[21:18] <Poindexter> Thanks Pfifo. When installing a new website should I use /var/www or /usr/share/Apache2/default-site   ?
[21:18] <pfifo> PeskyJ, to the linux command
[21:18] <Gatekeeper__> guntbert, gdmsetup canged login via that thanks all working....
[21:18] <pfifo> Poindexter, /var/www
[21:18] <PeskyJ> pfifo: ok retrying :D I'm new to editing the grub commands - it's fun
[21:19] <Poindexter> Pfifo I thought so. Thanks. If I install a default index.html in the /var/www will that become the default?
[21:19] <edbian> nothing is more fun than editing configuration files
[21:19] <dasupergamer> deleting them in fun too
[21:20] <PeskyJ> pfifo: you are a superstar!!!
[21:20] <Poindexter> Pfifo do I need to set a path in a .conf file?
[21:20] <redmenace> help i still cant turn on the window manager!!
[21:20] <edbian> redmenace: metacity --replace&
[21:20] <edbian> redmenace: Did I help you a second ago?
[21:20] <pfifo> Poindexter, its set to /var/www by default. you probably want index.php instead of index.html
[21:21] <redmenace> i tried that, but it didnt work all it did was turn off unity panels
[21:21] <PeskyJ> pfifo: the blacklist thing works great - now I think I will be able to get the fixed module and make it all work (or at least get it to boot to try!)
[21:21] <edbian> redmenace: Ahh, you're running unity!  Didn't know that :P  compiz --replace&
[21:21] <edbian> redmenace: We need compiz to run unity
[21:21] <pfifo> PeskyJ, you shoul;d propose a workaround on that bug report
[21:22] <redmenace> ahh that didnt work either edbian
[21:22] <R4D4R> How can I remove a package that did not completely install with apt-get, and now won't let me run apt-get remove? (Gives message "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'" but hangs there also)
[21:22] <Poindexter> Pfifo I have tried to SSH into the /var/www directory and copy and paste from a Windows remote box to Ubuntu. I get permissions denied. What is the command to give me permission to chmod into /var/www
[21:23] <edbian> redmenace: then we need to edit the settings (because they're causing compiz to crash immediately)  mv ~/.compiz ~/.backupcompiz
[21:23] <edbian> redmenace: Then try compiz --replace& again
[21:23] <edbian> redmenace: What questions do you have?
[21:23] <redmenace> none i just want a border and buttons on my windows
[21:24] <edbian> redmenace: haha, don't we all?
[21:24] <Poindexter> I do have root access.
[21:25] <redmenace> edbian i tried it still doesnt work!!
[21:25] <redmenace> :(
[21:25] <edbian> redmenace: What happens, any errors?
[21:25] <pfifo> Poindexter, well you could sudo to turn into root, but what I do is make a folder in my home directory called html or Public, then remove /var/www and use a link to point /var/www to /home/pfifo/html `sudo ln -sf /home/pfifo/html /var/www` this makes it so my normal user can work with anything in the html folder.
[21:25] <redmenace> yeah
[21:26] <edbian> redmenace: what errors?
[21:26] <redmenace> idk what there are is there any way to reset compiz?
[21:26] <PeskyJ> pfifo: ok, will do :)
[21:27] <edbian> redmenace: Yes, you move the folder I had you move.  Can you pastebin ls -la ~   ?
[21:27] <redmenace> just a sec
[21:27] <edbian> redmenace: sure
[21:27] <Poindexter> Pfifo so I need to establish a <group> first?
[21:28] <pfifo> Poindexter, you automatically are in a group named after your user ie pfifo is in the group pfifo
[21:28] <Poindexter> Pfifo so by default Poindexter is in  the group as root?
[21:29] <pfifo> Poindexter, no, type groups to get a listing of your groups
[21:29] <Poindexter> So the groups is in the www-data
[21:30] <pfifo> www-data is a user and a group on your computer
[21:30] <hamnegga> Anyone know what file backs up your panel config in gnome?
[21:31] <pfifo> !permissions | Poindexter
[21:33] <jasongriffee> is there a guide to syncing my firefox bookmarks with ubuntu one?
[21:33] <Poindexter> I read those file permissions but it has nothing to do with SSH drag and drop.
[21:34] <pfifo> Poindexter, i have no idea there, i only use cli tools
[21:34] <Ianster_guy> bot
[21:34] <Ianster_guy> Hello floodbot1
[21:35] <Poindexter> Pfifo right now I am using x11vnc ssh into a Linux box from a Windows box talking with you. VNC connected.
[21:35] <wonka_> my mediavision card is not working
[21:36] <anastasis> Please help. When I have two monitors my sticky notes (ubuntu 11.04) are buggy. When I move them around they make trails that dont go away. LIke he box is not rerawing properly and generally acts weird. when in single monitor mode it works fine. ANy idea how to fix for two monitors. OR.. is their a way to use Tomboy notes to create notes that are permanently on the desktop..
[21:36] <Ianster_guy> LOL this room seems quiet on the weekend. and vary active at night
[21:37] <jasongriffee> how do I enable bookmark syncing in ubuntu 11.04
[21:37] <Poindexter> Pfifo I have tried a nice  program namely, WinSCP to SSH into the Linux box but the situation is the same with drag and drop with a GUI Windows box to Ubuntu.
[21:37]  * pfifo needs to go now
[21:38] <wonka_> bye pfifo
[21:39] <anastasis> Please help. When I have two monitors my sticky notes (ubuntu 11.04) are buggy. When I move them around they make trails that dont go away. LIke he box is not rerawing properly and generally acts weird. when in single monitor mode it works fine. ANy idea how to fix for two monitors. OR.. is their a way to use Tomboy notes to create notes that are permanently on the desktop..
[21:39] <jey> In Ubuntu 11.04 is there a way to have separate mixer settings for headphones vs speakers? I know that the OS is capable of detecting whether headphones are plugged into this laptop (other OSes do it)
[21:40] <jey> I want speakers to be muted but unmuted when headphones are plugged in
[21:40] <wonka_> interesting...
[21:41] <redmenace> edbian, im in ubuntu safe mode, and in ccsm what should i put for settings?
[21:42] <jasongriffee> Jey, u mean have speakers run when headphones are not plugged in, then mute when inserted?
[21:42] <zerosniper> hi guys, i have an ubuntu server with a gui installed..  I dont want x to load at boot but i would like to be able to run startx if i need to for some reason.  Can anyone help me do that/
[21:42] <jey> nah, just want to have the speakers always be muted, but headphones be unmuted
[21:42] <auda> Salam alikm
[21:42] <redmenace> help i accidently turned off the window manager in unity by trying to enable cube, now im in safe mode, and in ccsm, what should  i put for settings?
[21:42] <wonka_> Salam, thanks
[21:43] <zerosniper> hi guys, i have an ubuntu server with a gui installed..  I dont want x to load at boot but i would like to be able to run startx if i need to for some reason.  Can anyone help me do that?
[21:43] <jasongriffee> would muting them manually when unplugged be a acceptable compormise, or is there a tech issue perventing that?
[21:43] <jey> zerosniper: you want to change the default runlevel
[21:44] <jrib> zerosniper: add " text" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub
[21:44] <zerosniper> ok
[21:44] <thegladiator> is it possible to remove gnome-panel ?
[21:44] <Raikia> zerosniper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519013&highlight=startup+terminal
[21:44] <jrib> zerosniper: you do not want to change your default runlevel
[21:44] <jey> oops
[21:44] <jrib> zerosniper: you also do not want to follow that forum thread as it is outdated
[21:44] <jasongriffee> thegladiator, sound gnome panel?
[21:44] <Raikia> zerosniper: Just remove gdm from rc.d
[21:44] <thevishy> gnome-panel I mean
[21:45] <centHOGG> zerosniper: what is so bad about x at boot?
[21:45] <moji_> hey
[21:45] <jrib> zerosniper: you also do not want to what Raikia has just suggested
[21:45] <thevishy> I have docky installed , dont need the gnome-panel - Mac like
[21:45] <Raikia> jrib: Why not?
[21:45] <Raikia> Thats what I did and it works great
[21:45] <bsmith093> how do i know if my soundcard has line in
[21:45] <hamnegga> anyone here have the google-talkplugin working?
[21:45] <zerosniper> thanks jrib
[21:45] <usr13> bsmith093: Look at it.
[21:45] <jrib> !upstart | Raikia
[21:45] <wonka_> these soundcards requests are giving me some weird ideas
[21:46] <usr13> hamnegga: Yep
[21:46] <redmenace> bye wish me luck
[21:46] <Poindexter> CentHOGG perhaps Zerosniper wants to use it as a server without unnecessary resources being used.
[21:46] <jrib> Raikia: gdm is started by upstart because of /etc/init/gdm.conf
[21:46] <jey> is there a way to query the attached monitors? something akin to lspci but for monitors
[21:46] <bsmith093> so how do i check in software? if my soundcard has line in? im trying to rip cassettes to mp3
[21:46] <hamnegga> usr13, you got any advice on that?
[21:47] <jrib> jey: maybe xrandr?
[21:47] <hamnegga> I've been trying to get it working for days
[21:47] <jey> jrib: thanks i'll check
[21:47] <usr13> hamnegga: I don't really remember.  It's been installed for a while now.
[21:47] <wonka_> I will make my software to mute if the headphone is unpluged
[21:47] <usr13> hamnegga: Just works,  that's pretty much all I know.
[21:47] <thevishy> I need to have a simple X session what are my choices ? not lubuntu or xfce
[21:48] <jrib> thevishy: one of the *boxes, like fluxbox?
[21:48] <zerosniper> Should i change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" ?
[21:48] <hamnegga> yeah, none of my plugins wanna show up in firefox, it's wicked annoying.  I have every possible plugin directory all symlinked up too
[21:48] <jrib> zerosniper: you can just change it to "quiet text" if you wish
[21:49] <zerosniper> what command do i use to update grub? is it simply "update-grub" ?
[21:49] <jeff_> I am having a problem with the FN-keys on a gateway laptop after blacklisting acer-wmi for the wifi
[21:49] <jrib> zerosniper: with sudo in front, yeah
[21:49] <zerosniper> cool
[21:49] <zerosniper> thanks jrib
[21:49] <zerosniper> can we pm?
[21:49] <thevishy> would be a good choice yes jrib  , but I have a huge problem , I cant connect to net - because the WIFI thing is tied up to gnome
[21:50] <jrib> zerosniper: better in channel
[21:50] <jeff_> the keys do not connect to the volume
[21:50] <jrib> thevishy: why is it tied up to gnome?
[21:50] <udr> hi! I have stupid beginner's problem. I have a server with jaunty (9.04), for which support has run out. I want to upgrade, but cannot find a packet source for the upgrade manager.
[21:50] <jrib> !upgrade | udr
[21:50] <zerosniper> im trying to edit with grub but i cant make any changes. its open in read only.  Do i need to change to su?
[21:50] <jrib> zerosniper: do: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[21:50] <thevishy> I have not been able to use a wifi on any other X sessions , because gnome -panel is the only way I know to connect Wifi
[21:51] <zerosniper> what is the gk?
[21:51] <jeff_> anyone know about function keys on laptops?
[21:51] <Hordeking> Has anyone else had issues with the startup disk creator installed with ubuntu creating usb disks that don't start up right (something about a bad syslinux config)?
[21:51] <jrib> thevishy: you should be able to run nm-applet in other environments (I HOPE!), but if not there is always nmcli (cli interface to network-manager) or wicd
[21:51] <djzielin> bzr
[21:51] <zerosniper> it says failed to run gedit as user root?
[21:52] <djzielin> join bzr
[21:52] <thevishy> let me try
[21:52] <djzielin> #bzr
[21:52] <jrib> djzielin: /join #bzr
[21:52] <K1ng`> Hi,
[21:52] <Hordeking> I had to run the windows version under wine to do it, and even then it had issues writing the mbr (fortunately usb-creator-gtk wrote that correctly earlier)
[21:52] <dasupergamer> sup
[21:54] <K1ng`> i have newly installed 10.04 server... the problem is when grub wasnt installed to harddrive. it was installed to flashdrive. but all system file was installed on harddrive
[21:55] <usr13> K1ng`: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:55] <K1ng`> ok hold on i need to start it
[21:56] <usr13> K1ng`: Probably just need to do  grub install /dev/sda
[21:56] <usr13> !grub2 | K1ng`
[21:58] <K1ng`> usr13, i cant install any package. i am its get stuck on 50%.... Segmentation faulty tree
[21:59] <zerosniper> i am not sure ifits connected. but since i changed it to quite text i now dont have a reboot button in the gui?  is that to be expected?
[21:59] <usr13> K1ng`: That's ok. Just re-install grub.
[21:59] <usr13> K1ng`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[22:00] <K1ng`> ok. let me do it then i will let you know
[22:00] <zerosniper> i am not sure ifits connected. but since i changed it to quite text i now dont have a reboot button in the gui?  is that to be expected?
[22:01] <guntbert> !repeat | zerosniper
[22:01] <jas_> test
[22:02] <zerosniper> !repeat | guntbert
[22:02] <guntbert> jas_: please use #test for testing
[22:02] <joost1123> is anyone here using a 2011 Macbook Pro?
[22:02] <centHOGG> $$$
[22:02] <guntbert> zerosniper: I beg your pardon?
[22:02] <Pr070cal> is anyone here using gnome 3 how can i enable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9pmbAo6T-A
[22:03] <zerosniper> sorry, i was just seeing if i could do that cool message too
[22:03] <zerosniper> :)
[22:03] <alexsn> /usr/sbin/update-initramfs: symbolic link to `/bin/true'
[22:03] <alexsn> is this intended?
[22:03] <zerosniper> hey guys, once you have finished with a session in x, how do you close x and leave the command line running?
[22:03] <guntbert> !askthebot > zerosniper
[22:03] <jas_> i have a question if the nvidia drivers installed through system -> administration -> hardware drivers are equivalent to the nvidia offical web page drivers
[22:04] <guntbert> zerosniper: did you start the session with startx?
[22:04] <zerosniper> yes
[22:05] <zerosniper> its ubuntu server, it has been configured to boot with text mode, then if i need gui i use startx, how do i return to text mode once i have completed the task in the gui
[22:05] <centHOGG> gawd
[22:05] <guntbert> zerosniper: usually you just log out, but there is a terminal command too ...
[22:06] <zerosniper> ahh yes, logging out has done it
[22:06] <zerosniper> that is fine
[22:06] <alexsn> guys anyone knows why update-initramfs links to /bin/true on natty?
[22:06] <jas_> admin_: i have a question if the nvidia drivers installed through system -> administration -> hardware drivers are equivalent to the nvidia offical web page drivers
[22:06] <centHOGG> nope
[22:06] <zerosniper> is there a good easy to learn way to manage apache, mysql ect?  for webserver managment?
[22:07] <guntbert> !serverguide | zerosniper
[22:07] <redmenace> ok i fixed the prblm where i didnt have borders and buttons on my windows, but you the black box in the uper-right corner that gives noticfications, how do i get that back
[22:07] <johntramp> hi.   are there any digital video cameras (not a webcam) which can be accessed via /dev/video0 when connected to the pc?
[22:07] <johntramp> or do they all show up as a mass storage device
[22:08] <brontosaurusrex> johntramp, probably the ones that use firewire
[22:08] <K1ng`> usr13, actually i am totally lost
[22:09] <johntramp> brontosaurusrex: ok thanks
[22:10] <redmenace> can some one send me a message on jabber, im redstar@jabber.org, i need to see if the black box indicator still works
[22:10] <guntbert> redmenace: not here please - keep it to ubuntu support
[22:10] <jey> is there something that lets me contorl the volume from the keyboard (without special multimedia keys)? something analogous to SizzlingKeys for MacOS
[22:11] <redmenace> sorry,  but i think i lost the black indicator box
[22:11]  * jey hasn't used a linux machine as desktop in quite a while
[22:11] <johntramp> jey: alsamixer
[22:11] <zerosniper> When i startx i frequently get a message saying "it seems that you do not have the hardware require to run unity. Please choose ubuntu classic at the login screen and you will be using the traditional enviroment".  Can i stop this message showing, perhaps loading the classic mode by default?
[22:12] <guntbert> !classic | zerosniper
[22:12] <moystard> Hello everyone!
[22:12] <jey> johntramp: I mean that I want to bind global hotkeys under X to raise/lower volume -- sounds like this will probably need cooperation of my window manager
[22:12] <moystard> talking about unity, it's crazy to see how much it impacts opengl performances of the other running programs :/
[22:12] <guntbert> hello moystard,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:12] <johntramp> jey: yes it depends on which WM you use
[22:12] <zerosniper> when i "log out" i get back to command line
[22:13] <zerosniper> so i cant log out and switch.
[22:13] <moystard> guntbert, no no, just came to talk why? :D
[22:13] <zerosniper> is there a config somehwere i can edit for this?
[22:13] <jas_> i have a question if the nvidia drivers installed through system -> administration -> hardware drivers are equivalent to the nvidia offical web page drivers
[22:13] <jey> johntramp: how about under Unity? though I should probably just pick a tiling window manager and switch to that, then look into binding these keys...
[22:13] <redmenace> yeah whats the black box that appears in the upper-right hand corner called?
[22:13] <guntbert> moystard: this channel is for ubuntu support only, chatter takes place in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:13] <zerosniper> do you guys think http://webmin.com/index.html is any good?
[22:14] <guntbert> !webmin | zerosniper
[22:14] <centHOGG> <webmin
[22:14] <zerosniper> ok
[22:14] <zerosniper> is there a more recent tool that is preferd ?
[22:15] <redmenace> is there a gnome help channel?
[22:15] <guntbert> zerosniper: no :-(
[22:15] <zerosniper> aww
[22:16] <zerosniper> hmmm.. is there any web administration utility that i can install to manage my server like Plesk or Cpanle but free?
[22:16] <toad`> does someone feel like helping me reinstall ubuntu on a laptop that dual boots with win7 using GRUB2
[22:16] <guntbert> zerosniper: not to my knowledge, but you *could* ask in #ubuntu-server
[22:17] <wonka_> soon I will provide one, this is a promise
[22:17] <zerosniper> im currently using the freenode web chat.  how do i open a new tab with that chan in it?
[22:18] <toad`> bugger all
[22:18] <toad`> anyone?
[22:18] <toad`> I need help quick
[22:18] <Oer> zerosniper, type /join <channel>
[22:19] <toad`> how do I 'destroy' a partition, this one tutorial says to 'destroy' not delete
[22:19] <toad`> :(
[22:19] <BlouBlou> toad`: Do it by gparted
[22:19] <BlouBlou> !gparted | toad`
[22:20] <toad`> from within ubuntu?
[22:20] <toad`> I cant apt-get cause I cant get online, cause network manager is missing, thus why Iwant to reinstall
[22:20] <toad`> cant I do this from within the installation setup? from the LiveCD?
[22:20] <vorbis5> first time, can you people see this msg?
[22:21] <pfifo> vorbis5, what message?
[22:21] <BlouBlou> toad`: yes, you can
[22:21] <vorbis5> hi
[22:21] <SubKid> clear
[22:21] <toad`> so
[22:21] <Oer> toad`, yes, you van choose manually, and then you can re-use the partition, including formatting
[22:21] <toad`> do I just delete the partition ubuntu is on?
[22:21] <guntbert> !who > seven try it out
[22:21] <toad`> how do I reuse?
[22:21] <redmenace> umm, i think i might of lost notify-osd
[22:21] <toad`> should I delete it? it turns into unallocated free space?
[22:21] <toad`> will this mess up GRUB?
[22:21] <toad`> let me stick the livecd in and get the installation going then we'll go from there
[22:22] <pfifo> toad`, can you pastebin?
[22:22] <toad`> what would you like me to pastebin?
[22:22] <pfifo> toad`, the output of "sudo fdisk -l && sudo os-prober"
[22:22] <toad`> I can try sure
[22:23] <toad`> waht will this be telling me?
[22:23] <DrSlony> Help oCean pfifo guntbert or anybody, when I try compiling a program into a 32 bit build on a 64 bit ubuntu machine, it fails at the "Linking CXX executable" stage with this: http://paste2.org/p/1477027 How do I fix it? I don't see any 32 bit caito, pango, lcms etc packages using "sudo apt-cache search cairo | grep 32"
[22:23] <toad`> or you rather
[22:23] <toad`> should I do that from within ubuntu>? cause I'm in the process of booting from the livecd
[22:23] <pfifo> toad`, if you cant get to a pastebin PM it to me and ill copy it over
[22:23] <toad`> honestly I just wanna reinstall. :)
[22:23] <Angelous> Yes, hello. I'm having a problem with my Ubuntu 11. I had to re-setup my router and afterwards now ipconfig doesn't work for my vm. I checked to make sure that net-tools was installed and it is. So does anyone have any idea what my problem is here?
[22:23] <toad`> I tried getting network manager back on but that was far too much trouble, there really isnt much on here so I figure a fresh instal wont be too much trouble.
[22:23] <guntbert> DrSlony: no help from me, sorry (I only found that page ...)
[22:23] <pfifo> DrSlony, the easiest way to do it is by building a 32 bit chroot
[22:24] <toad`> Usually I'll reinstall windows, then install ubtunu and everythign works great, but I've never tried to reinstall ubuntu after having Windows 7 instlaled.
[22:24] <alexsn> Angelous: ipconfig works for windows only
[22:24] <DrSlony> pfifo how?
[22:24] <alexsn> Angelous: use ifconfig
[22:24] <pfifo> DrSlony, check out debootstrap, you said you know gentoo so you should feel at home
[22:25] <Oer> toad`, choose manually, and then you can re-use the partition
[22:25] <vorbis5> help please: I'm connected to the internet obviously, but I'm it says im not connected to a 'network'. I cant ping any of the other computers on my network. whats wrong?
[22:25] <toad`> o I didnt see anywhere to reuse partitions
[22:25] <toad`> only to delete them
[22:25] <toad`> one sec livecd is loading
[22:25] <redmenace> never mind, i didnt lose notify-osd
[22:26] <redmenace> but thanks to all who helped me
[22:26] <pfifo> vorbis5, maybe your router is blocking ping, can you pastebin the output of 'ip addr && ifconfig'
[22:26] <toad`> ok
[22:26] <toad`> so Im assuming I check Specifiy partitions manually
[22:26] <toad`> ok
[22:27] <DrSlony> i think my solution is different: how do I install a 32 bit cairo package, for example?
[22:27] <vorbis5> pfifo, thanks for replying... I pretty good with computers but completely new with ubuntu. what is pastebin?
[22:27] <toad`> so do I hit 'revert'? 'change'?'delete'? pfifo
[22:27] <pfifo> !pastebin | vorbis5
[22:27] <alexsn> vorbis5: run 'tcpdump -i <iface> icmp' where iface is not interface (e.g. eth0)
[22:27] <DrSlony> im sure for a 32 bit ubuntu it would just suffice to type "sudo apt-get install cairo", so how do I specify a 32 bit version when running that from a 64 bit one?
[22:27] <pfifo> toad`, "format" and use as "/"
[22:28] <toad`> there is no 'format'
[22:28] <pfifo> DrSlony, you cant, you would have to build from source
[22:28] <toad`> just what I said
[22:28] <toad`> change, delete, revert
[22:28] <Ampelbein> DrSlony: dpkg -i --force-architecture *.deb
[22:28] <toad`> I'm at the installation setup menu
[22:28] <Ampelbein> DrSlony: but that would conflict with the rest of your system
[22:28] <Angelous> Hey, how do I figure out what port my SSH sever is running on? I forget.
[22:28] <alexsn> vorbis5: then open another terminal and try pinging
[22:28] <centHOGG> 22
[22:28] <toad`> pfifo, ?
[22:29] <pfifo> toad`, change, then use as / and click format ext4
[22:29] <alexsn> vorbis5: if you see sends with no replies it's not your machine
[22:29] <Ampelbein> DrSlony: the fastest was on a amd64 system to compile for i386 is indeed a chroot.
[22:29] <vorbis5> k ill try that
[22:29] <Angelous> That's default, I'm wanting a command that will tell me without having to look in the sshd_config
[22:29] <DrSlony> eh ok, thank you
[22:29] <toad`> what do you mean 'use as /'?
[22:29] <toad`> do I put a 'mount point;?
[22:29] <guntbert> Angelous: lsof -i | grep ssh
[22:29] <toad`> o is that what you mean, 'mount point: /'?
[22:29] <Ampelbein> DrSlony: there is some work going on to make 64 and 32 bit packages co-installable (http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/) but not all libraries have been converted yet.
[22:29] <toad`> click format? aswell I assume?
[22:29] <alexsn> toad`:  / means root
[22:30] <toad`> ok
[22:30] <toad`> cool
[22:30] <toad`> and ext4 journaling is what I want?
[22:30] <toad`> ok
[22:30] <toad`> here goes
[22:30] <FloodBot1> toad`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:30] <toad`> im going to hit 'ok'
[22:30] <pfifo> toad`, yes the mount point should be "/" the filesystem should be "ext4" and there should be a checkbox to make it format or delete data
[22:31] <diytto> Can someone help me?
[22:31] <green91> sure
[22:31] <vorbis5> alexsn: its telling me eth0 is not a directory
[22:32] <alexsn> vorbis5: type 'ip link show'
[22:32] <toad`> awesome thanks pfifo its installing now
[22:32] <alexsn> paste the output here
[22:32] <guntbert> diytto: you have to ask your question before we can know :)
[22:32] <diytto> green91: I tried to install windows on its partition, but now it screwed up grup and I cant load my ubuntu
[22:32] <diytto> :/
[22:32] <pfifo> !grub | green91
[22:33] <green91>  you generally want to install windows first prior to installing linux/grub
[22:33] <green91> yes, i know what grub is
[22:33] <diytto> Yeaaa
[22:33] <diytto> Uhh
[22:33] <diytto> I forgot
[22:33] <diytto> :p
[22:33] <pfifo> oops wrong dude
[22:33] <FloodBot1> diytto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:33] <alexsn> diytto: try googling it, it's a really common question
[22:33] <diytto> Okay cool
[22:33] <pfifo> !grub | diytto
[22:33] <vorbis5> alexsn, sorry, not to sure what to do from there
[22:34] <Ampelbein> !google | alexsn
[22:34] <vorbis5> vorbis5@solarlight:~$ ip link show
[22:34] <vorbis5> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN  link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
[22:35] <vorbis5> 2: eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN qlen 1000 link/ether 00:26:b9:0a:88:89 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[22:35] <vorbis5> 3: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:24:d6:09:ce:b0 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[22:35] <toad`> diytto,
[22:35] <toad`> did you install ubuntu first and then windows?
[22:35] <green91> diytto: you're gonna need to use the livecd to fix grub so that its put back in your mbr
[22:35] <diytto> Well
[22:35] <toad`> I've always installed windows first fresh, then installed ubuntu and itll instal GRUB accordinly
[22:35] <usr13> vorbis5: What is it you are trying to do?
[22:35] <toad`> and it works perfectly eacht ime
[22:35] <alexsn> vorbis5: you're using wireless right?
[22:35] <vorbis5> alexsn, yup
[22:35] <diytto> I actually need to reformat a partition on my hdd
[22:36] <diytto> And use ubuntu
[22:36] <diytto> Then i can install windows
[22:36] <pfifo> green91, be a power user ;) http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/
[22:36] <alexsn> vorbis5: ok then, run 'tcpdump -i wlan0 icmp &'
[22:36] <toad`> no install windows first man
[22:36] <toad`> then ubuntu
[22:36] <toad`> itll do GRUB automatically
[22:36] <diytto> Well i already have both installed
[22:36] <diytto> :/
[22:36] <diytto> Im not reinstalling both again
[22:36] <alexsn> vorbis5: then ping something
[22:37] <pfifo> diytto, read that link ubottu gave you it has step by step instructions
[22:37] <diytto> Easier to just fix grub
[22:37] <diytto> pfifo: I got that thanks :)
[22:37] <vorbis5> alexsn, "vorbis5@solarlight:~$ tcpdump: wlan0: You don't have permission to capture on that device" :(
[22:37] <alexsn> vorbis5: type 'sudo -s'
[22:37] <alexsn> vorbis5: then try again
[22:38] <diytto> How can I reformat a partition in Ubuntu? :p
[22:38] <guntbert> alexsn: sudo -i is "slightly" better in terms of setting a proper environment
[22:39] <pfifo> diytto, mke2fs mkfs mkreiserfs mkdosfs
[22:39] <diytto> O.o
[22:39] <diytto> Erm
[22:39] <alexsn> diytto: by reformat you mean create a new partition or a new filesystem?
[22:39] <guntbert> diytto: not all commands at once :)
[22:39] <pfifo> guntbert, lol
[22:40] <tripelb> diytto: I'm wanting to do that but I'm antsy about losing some data. I know what you do is to reboot from a livecd (and thus you are rebooting NOT from the partion you wish to change) and then you use gparted to do it.   -- alexsn I'm in the converstion too.
[22:40] <guntbert> pfifo: :)
[22:40] <vorbis5> alexsn, that worked, but when i ping from there its still telling me he host is unknown
[22:40] <diytto> Create a new filesystem on the partition
[22:40] <alexsn> vorbis5: did you configured dns servers?
[22:40] <lapion> hello I have found an important security flaw in the apt system
[22:41] <tripelb> diytto, oh you want something different than I do. (dont forget to back up anything on the partion that you want to keep.
[22:41] <pfifo> here it comes
[22:41] <NoWayJose> Do I need to have an internet connection to install Ubuntu on a system along with Windows using the Wubi program?
[22:41] <tripelb> NoWayJose, nope
[22:41] <NoWayJose> tripelb, Where does it get the data from?
[22:41] <tripelb> NoWayJose, I take it back. I dont know.
[22:41] <tripelb> for sure.
[22:41] <NoWayJose> heh, ok
[22:42] <tripelb> NoWayJose, I take it back. I dont know. --- but this looks like it knows https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[22:42] <pfifo> NoWayJose, are you saying your windows dosent have internet?
[22:42] <diytto> Well the partition is currently Fat32 for windows, which i want it to be, but i want it to be a fresh partition with nothing on it
[22:42] <NoWayJose> pfifo, correct
[22:42] <wildbat> Wubi is slow == y ppl using it ?
[22:43] <centHOGG> vfat32... win98?
[22:43] <pfifo> wildbat, partitioning is scary
[22:43] <tripelb> wubi also means you cant get your data unless you boot into that windows. So if windows goes so does your data
[22:43] <lapion> Today when I was at a train station where there is wifi delivered by my isp, when I did an update of the apt-system, the apt-system downloaded the login page for the wifi
[22:43] <NoWayJose> My laptop is also 64-bit....will the 32-bit ubuntu work on there, or is it a must that I use the 64-bit?
[22:43] <pfifo> NoWayJose, I dont know either but if you do then they wasted 699MB of packages on the CD
[22:43] <sobaida> guys newbie here can somebody teach me how to use aircrack
[22:44] <centHOGG> 64bit better than 32
[22:44] <th0r> NoWayJose: you can use 32bit on a 64 bit machine
[22:44] <tripelb> pfifo I dont know if this is good advice but sHe could use ubuntu from a flashdrive.
[22:44] <centHOGG> pleez
[22:44] <NoWayJose> ok thanks.
[22:44] <alexsn> NoWayJose: 32bit will work just fine
[22:44] <wildbat> pfifo: it is more scary when you see CPU usage in disk access under Wubi ~
[22:44] <lapion> an put it in the list directory of the apt system, and all the package managers crashed until I deleted all files in the list folder and updated the lists (after logging in)
[22:44] <tripelb> wildbat, could you expalin that to me (CPU usage in disk access under Wubi
[22:45] <sobaida> guys newbie here can somebody teach me how to use aircrack
[22:45] <pfifo> wildbat, yo dawg we heard you like operating systems
[22:45] <NoWayJose> pfifo, I was just wondering, because the wubi exe wasn't but 4MB...then it put ubuntu on this system with no problem...i am guessing it downloaded it from somewhere which made me think it needed an internet connection
[22:45] <centHOGG> !idiot
[22:45] <allu2> Hello, i got a problem with unity 2d, the unity button is on wrong screen on my dual screen system, the side bar does appear when i move mouse on it, but on the screen left to me while the button is on left corner of the right screen.
[22:46] <sobaida> guys newbie here can somebody teach me how to use aircrack
[22:46] <allu2> so pressing the side bar i impossible without pressing the unity button as when i move off from it it hides again
[22:46] <pfifo> NoWayJose, there are all the base and main packages on the CD itself, thats usually where you get your packages from during a normal install.
[22:46] <colin_> hi
[22:46] <colin_> plz hepl
[22:46] <NoWayJose> pfifo, I had no CD in it..
[22:46] <th0r> sobaida: that really doesn't come under the pervue of ubuntu support
[22:46] <allu2> sobaida: if you give me 10 mins maybe :P
[22:46] <diytto> So how can I reformat this partition? Can i do it in Disk Utility?
[22:46] <lapion> sobaida, we do not condone or help people using things such as aircrack... please use the google or read the man somewhere
[22:47] <wildbat> tripelb: it use NTFS and loop mount the root image ~ and ntfs under linux is CPU hogging ~ so
[22:47] <sobaida> ohhh
[22:47] <NoWayJose> wth is aircrack?
[22:47] <pfifo> NoWayJose, then perhaps it just sets up a pre-install enviroment and finishes the rest later on
[22:47] <colin_> im in zorin, when i press on a new window, the ones infront, move out the way and go behind, i dont like this animation, but i dont see how to turn it off
[22:47] <sobaida> i am having a hard time understanding thingd here
[22:47]  * diytto waits
[22:47]  * pfifo fires up his XP VM
[22:48] <wildbat> NoWayJose: it sniff data and crack the Wifi Key
[22:48] <sobaida> allu2 pls teach me?
[22:48] <NoWayJose> wildbat, ah ok thanks
[22:48] <NoWayJose> appreciate you guys, later.
[22:48] <sobaida> allu2 pls teach me?
[22:48] <linuxtweaker36> anyway to change the permissions of the "halt" command so that common users can execute it and shutdown the computer?
[22:48] <diytto> Can I reformat my 8GB FAT32 partition in a live cd? I want it to be an empty patition for a windows XP install.
[22:48] <colin_> can anyone stop my windows from shuffling?
[22:49] <allu2> sobaida: i pm you
[22:49] <vorbis5> alexsn, haha sorry i keep bothering you, closed irc by accident. anyway, it still says that the host is unknown when i try pinging to the comp on my network
[22:49] <sobaida> ok
[22:49] <bindi> diytto: could do that in xp install, no?
[22:49] <sobaida> go ahed allu2
[22:49] <diytto> bindi: Im not sure :s
[22:49] <wildbat> diytto: are you on Live CD ? you can't format a OS while it is running . and you can do it in gparted in LiveCD
[22:49] <diytto> wildbat: I am on a live cd
[22:50] <wildbat> diytto: run Gparted then
[22:50] <muay-guy> hello, has anyone succesfully installed firefox4 + flash in 10.04?
[22:51] <alexsn> vorbis5: what do you ping exactly?
[22:51] <diytto> wildbat: Perfect thanks.
[22:51] <pythoned> Hello, for a ubuntu beginner what books can you recommend except the ubuntu help? I tried googleing but I found only old books about ubuntu.
[22:51] <diytto> Would NTFS or FAT32 be better for windowsxp
[22:52] <vorbis5> alexsn, "ping chiara-pc" (my moms computer upstairs)
[22:52] <th0r> pythoned: check the linux documentation project...tldp.org
[22:52] <wildbat> diytto: NTFS
[22:52] <diytto> wildbat: Thanks
[22:53] <G00053> just bought an ssd and i want to move my os install over to it, whats the best approach ?
[22:53] <alexsn> vorbis5: do you have a dns server on your network or something?
[22:53] <tripelb> diytto, sometimes people who are sopistocated dont understand the simple squestions.  When you use the installer, it will reformat the partition.
[22:53] <th0r> vorbis5: if you don't have dns on your local network you need to add that hostname to /etc/hosts
[22:54] <pfifo> !clone | G00053
[22:54] <vorbis5> th0r, is that hostname like my wan ip?
[22:55] <th0r> vorbis5: no, on your local network you will use local ip addresses...probably 192.168.x.x, you need to add the hostname and ip address to /etc/hosts for anything you want to 'ping' by name
[22:55] <pythoned> th0r,  Thanks so much
[22:56] <th0r> pythoned: your local ip addresses are probably dynamic...they are subject to change on reboot
[22:56] <G00053> pfifo , what your saying is to do a fresh install and just reinstall my packages ? is there any way to just make a direct copy of whats on my hdd ?
[22:56] <sylar_> locam adress is 127.0.0.1
[22:56] <pythoned> th0r,  ?
[22:56] <tripelb> diytto, windows XP will reformat the partition too. The installers all do that.
[22:56] <pythoned> th0r,  I think you got the wrong person :)
[22:56] <pfifo> G00053, sure, rsync is best for that, but a reinstall is probably quicker
[22:56] <sveinse> Is there I way I can determine the dirs and order of dirs ld.so is searching for so's?
[22:56] <diytto> Okay
[22:56] <th0r> sylar_: no, that is the loop address, there is also a local ip addres for the net
[22:56] <muay-guy> I keep getting asked to go to http://get.adobe.com/es/flashplayer/ to install flash because I've installef firefox 4
[22:56] <sylar_> [sylar@sylar ~]$ cat /etc/hosts
[22:56] <sylar_> 127.0.0.1	sylar	localhost.localdomain	localhos
[22:57] <olskolirc> so go muay-guy
[22:57] <lolmatic> hi
[22:57] <lolmatic> how do i mount a folder with its sub folders in another folder read only?
[22:57] <muay-guy> but when I install it I get a message from chrome (i'm doing this in chrome, firefox doesn't even allow me to load apt) I get a "Package 'adobe-flashplugin' is virtual" exception
[22:57] <tripelb> pythoned There is a website called introduction to linux I finally found a good one. It's HTML and its free. It's all text.
[22:57] <diytto> !grub2 > diytto
[22:57] <olskolirc> adobe 10 should be in your repository muay-guy
[22:57] <vorbis5> thor, alexsn, ok but when i enter a folder like /home/vorbis5/Documents it says "Operations on this network are disabled because there is no network connection." whats going on there?
[22:57] <Psycho_Mario> hi, is it possible to run a command when ubuntu comes back up after suspend to ram?
[22:57] <muay-guy> well, firefox doesn't seem to be loading it
[22:57] <th0r> sylar_: right, that is the loop address for the local host. If you want to ping other computers by name, and don't have dns, you need to add their hostname/ip to that file
[22:57] <dijonyummy123> i setup vsftp and ftp to mounted cifs. i can put a new file there but for some reason cannot overwite an existing file from ftp, any idea
[22:58] <olskolirc> sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin muay-guy
[22:58] <pfifo> muay-guy, goto a command line and type 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer'
[22:58] <muay-guy> olskolirc, I downloaded firefox and just left it in ~/bin/firefox though
[22:58] <muay-guy> should I move it somewhere else
[22:58] <G00053> pfifo: fair enough . I can deal with fresh, so since i'm going to keep my dataon a  seperate drive than the os how do i go about setting up my home folder ?
[22:58] <vorbis5> thor, alexsn, operatoins on this *folder...
[22:58] <olskolirc> ok you have to create a soft link
[22:58] <muay-guy> pfifo, I've done that alread
[22:58] <muay-guy> I think the problem is that the firefox folder is not where it's supposed to be
[22:59] <muay-guy> I have it in my home folder
[22:59] <muay-guy> Where should I move it to?
[22:59] <pfifo> G00053, I would use the ssd as my homedrive, thats the speed bottleneck, but either way you want is taken care of in the partitioning screen of the installer
[23:00] <alexsn> vorbis5: one step at a time
[23:00] <alexsn> vorbis5: what are you trying to do, from where?
[23:01] <runelind> I want to install a newer version of openssh detailed at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/1:5.3p1-3ubuntu7
[23:01] <runelind> how do I go about it?  download that .tgz file or is there a ppa I can add?
[23:01] <pfifo> muay-guy, what is this firefox folder in your home? you shouldnt have anything like that
[23:02] <muay-guy> pfifo, I downloaded the tar.gz and uncompressed it there
[23:02] <vorbis5> alexsn, not really sure. i just installed ubuntu so im trying learn a few things. on my win7 in cmd i could just "ping chiara-pc" and it would ping that computer because i was on the network. it seems that im not connected to a network right now
[23:02] <pfifo> muay-guy, ubuntu comes with ff4 now, you dont have to run it like that.
[23:02] <G00053> pfifo:  right just trying to plan this before i pull out my knife... I've got a 64gb ssd and a 1tb hdd . so i think what i'll do is use the hdd for backup of my home folder and for my media. does that sound right ?
[23:02] <lolmatic> how do i mount a folder with its sub folders in another folder read only?
[23:03] <olskolirc> type locate flashplugin-alternative.so muay-guy.  then you will know where to soft link it from
[23:03] <alexsn> vorbis5: show me your ip addresses type: 'ip addr show'
[23:03] <muay-guy> I just added the mozilla repository and I'm upgrading
[23:04] <pfifo> G00053, if you want to get exotic, make a 64 gb raid 1 with mdadm and make it a folder for extreme fast access data
[23:04] <pfifo> G00053, or maybe try mounting the ssd at /home/G00053/Downloads
[23:04] <potisadictos> hi
[23:05] <potisadictos> anybody chating with me now?
[23:05] <zerosniper> guntbert: you still here? anyone know how i can remove ebox from my installations?
[23:05] <vorbis5> alexsn, under wlan0 i found "inet 192.168.1.85/24"
[23:06] <pfifo> it is storming here, lots of lightning, i might get disconnected
[23:06] <alexsn> vorbis5: ok, what other machines are there on the network?
[23:06] <th0r> vorbis5: in windows you have a
[23:06] <alexsn> vorbis5: if you don't know you're need to run a scan
[23:07] <th0r> vorbis5: (oops) 'workgroup' and that is why you could access the other computer
[23:07] <danny> Hey, I think my help thread on ubuntu forums may have died (the guys hasn't responded in a number of hours). Can someone take a look please? the url is ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10954391#post10954391
[23:07] <vorbis5> alexsn, how do i run that scan?
[23:08] <alexsn> you'll need to download nmap: 'sudo apt-get install nmap'
[23:08] <vorbis5> k done
[23:09] <danny> Does anyone have time to check out my thread or should I try a different channel?
[23:09] <sylar_> vorbis5: wlan0 is your wifi adress, to know your bridge you nedd to do "ip route show"
[23:09] <Kr3m1in> I need help regarding my wifi...
[23:09] <alexsn> vorbis5: run: 'nmap -v -sP 192.168.1.0/24 | grep -v down'
[23:10] <pfifo> danny, this is in a virtual machine?
[23:10] <danny> Pfifo: yes
[23:10] <Diamondcite> danny: You did the modprobe incorrectly
[23:10] <danny> Diamondcite: oh, how do I do it then?
[23:10] <Kr3m1in> Can somebody help me with my wifi in Ubuntu?
[23:10] <Diamondcite> danny: Try "sudo modprobe rtl8187"
[23:10] <pfifo> danny, you cant use that usb device in a virtual machine iirc, only usb storage will work
[23:11] <Kr3m1in> Can somebody please help me with my wifi?
[23:11] <danny> pfifo: Oh, so I need to dualboot?
[23:11] <th0r> Kr3m1in: you have given us way too much information about your problem....everyone is confused
[23:11] <pfifo> danny, what you need todo is bridge the wireless connection from windows into your VM
[23:11] <Diamondcite> pfifo: Really? I thought Virtual box had the USB working to some extent.
[23:11] <Kr3m1in> th0r: Too much information?
[23:11] <pfifo> Diamondcite, usb mass storage for USB 1.0
[23:11] <danny> pfifo: I have wireless in my VM, but I need to access the actual device for kismet
[23:11] <Kr3m1in> th0r: That must be sarcasm...
[23:12] <Diamondcite> pfifo: But my vbox has usb 2.0 support x.x
[23:12] <vorbis5> alexsn, well i found 192.168.70 .78 .83 .85 and .86
[23:12] <danny> diamondcite: same thing, this time it just asked for my sudo password
[23:12] <pfifo> danny, you need to dualboot, or check out the aircrack livecd for a ready to go patched ndiswrapped drivers for kismet
[23:12] <wildbat> danny: you need sudo for modprobe
[23:12] <danny> diamondcite: I think I incorrectly installed the driver
[23:12] <danny> wildbat: I get the same error when I sudo
[23:13] <Pipmas> Hello, I wish to auto mount a partition on startup. It is called windows and is ntfs, it's address is /dev/sda2. I am not sure what to add to fstab
[23:13] <alexsn> vorbis5: do you know the ip of the machine you're trying to reach?
[23:13] <danny> pfifo: Ready to go? As in I install the things from the cd and my usb device will plug n play?
[23:13] <alexsn> vorbis5: it can be either one of those
[23:13] <vorbis5> alexsn, true haha give me a sec and ill find out
[23:13] <pfifo> danny, ready to go as you put the cd in your computer and boot, no install or anything
[23:13] <Kr3m1in> Can somebody help me with my wifi? There is no 'wireless connection' option on my menu.
[23:14] <pfifo> danny backtrack and aircrack livecd are both like that
[23:14] <danny> pfifo: oh I see
[23:14] <danny> pfifo: I tried to use backtrack too but it didn't recognize my usb thing
[23:14] <Kr3m1in> Can somebody help me with my wifi? There is no 'wireless connection' option in my menu
[23:14] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: is the wireless can up?
[23:14] <danny> pfifo: albeit in VM
[23:14] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: type 'ip link show'
[23:14] <pfifo> danny, youll never get it to work in a vm
[23:15] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: in the terminal?
[23:15] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: yes
[23:15] <pfifo> danny, just boot that CD and your set!
[23:15] <Pipmas> Can anyone help me with a fstab entry? :)
[23:15] <alexsn> Pipmas: sure
[23:15] <danny> pfifo: Ok, would the same work for backtrack?
[23:15] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: Ok, what am i looking for?
[23:15] <Pipmas> alexsm:  I wish to auto mount a partition on startup. It is called windows and is ntfs, it's address is /dev/sda2. I am not sure what to add to fstab
[23:16] <Pipmas> woops typo on the name :P
[23:16] <danny> pfifo: Like, could I boot from the backtrack live cd and have everything ready to go?
[23:16] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: what entries do you have there
[23:16] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: wireness interfaces usually starts with wlan*
[23:16] <pfifo> danny, yeah, but im not 100% sure of how well maintained backtracks drivers are for kismet, it can do alot more, where as aircrack is specifically for kismet/airocrack
[23:16] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: wireless*
[23:16] <Pipmas> alexsn:^
[23:17] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: there is nothing relating to 'wireless' in the output
[23:17] <danny> pfifo: Alright thanks! So I should be downloading the "Slitaz Aircrack-ng Distribution" to boot from, right?
[23:17] <alexsn> Pipmas: it's better to mount it using uuid and not by/dev entry
[23:17] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: err return whatever you want to call it
[23:17] <alexsn> Pipmas: run 'blkid'
[23:18] <Diamondcite> ... aircrack.. so that's the purpose ^_^
[23:18] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: what entries do you see?
[23:18] <pfifo> danny, sounds good
[23:18] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: 1. lo: 2. eth0
[23:18] <Henriquez> Does anyone know if you can delay an application (VMware Server 2 ) from running ?
[23:18] <danny> pfifo: perfect, thanks!
[23:18] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: and then gibberish
[23:18] <pfifo> Diamondcite, penetration testing of course
[23:19] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: that means your wireless card is either not connected or there's no driver for it
[23:19] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: crap
[23:19] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: is there any 'hub' for downloading drivers for ubuntu?
[23:20] <Phlunk3> Hi guys, I have an issue with youtube (and all other flash) as well as videos (avi etc on my hdd)  suddenly videos are speed up and there is no sound, can anyone suggest a solution or point me towards some information regarding this?
[23:20] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: not that i know of, you should check the manufacturer site for a linux driver
[23:20] <fhughson_> how is everyone today?
[23:20] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, you shouldnt download software from anywhere except the ubuntu repos, ass a rule of thumb
[23:20] <Pipmas> alexsn: typed that command in terminal, it gave me a list of partitions
[23:20] <alexsn> Pipmas: still need help?
[23:20] <qin> Kr3m1in: Drivers are in repos, PPA, on vendor site, or git, Do not use anything else.
[23:20] <th0r> Kr3m1in: if you have the windows drivers look at ndiswrapper
[23:21] <Pipmas> alexsn: not sure what to do next
[23:21] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: Well I guess i should figure out what wifi card i have in my laptop...
[23:21] <alexsn> Pipmas: ok you got the UUID for /dev/sda2?
[23:21] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: any way to profile that on ubuntu?
[23:21] <Pipmas> alexsn: yes
[23:21] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: *in
[23:21] <vorbis5> alexsn, the computers name is stealthaim-pc with ip of 192.168.1.89
[23:22] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: 'lspci -nv' will give you all the divices
[23:22] <alexsn> Pipmas: ok then, Add the following to /etc/fstab
[23:23] <Benkinooby> hi, i am wirting a small script to suspend my laptop after 30 minutes. #! /bin/bash; sleep 1800; pm-suspend; ... do i have to add an exit 0; ?
[23:23] <alexsn> Pipmas: UUID=xxxxxxxxx     			/mnt/windows 	ntfs 	rw,user,noexec,noatime,umask=0 		0 	0
[23:23] <alexsn> Pipmas: replace xxxx with the uuid you got from blkid
[23:24] <alexsn> Pipmas: and /mnt/windows with the mount point you want
[23:24] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: Is there some sort of identifier that i should look for after i enter the script?
[23:24] <G00053> !automate
[23:24] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: I'm not seeing any 'key words' like 'wifi' etc.
[23:24] <Pipmas> alexsn: thank you so much
[23:24] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: you can filter by class
[23:25] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: I'm not sure which class wifi cards get
[23:25] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: well then...
[23:25] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: perhaps google would help?
[23:25] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: what would I search for?
[23:26] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: try lspci -vv
[23:26] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: it's more verbose
[23:26] <zerosniper> hmmm, startx hangs and crashes to command line unless i use sudo startx any ideas?
[23:27] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: Would the device for ethernet control wifi too?
[23:27] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, just pastebin it, your looking for "ethernet"
[23:28] <qin> zerosniper: Did you stop gdm?
[23:28] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: I did the command lspci -vv, and I see devices for 'ethernet control' as well as 'network controller'
[23:28] <zerosniper> possibly
[23:28] <zerosniper> how can i check?
[23:28] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, does 'iwconfig' give any model numbers/product names
[23:28] <zerosniper> qin: sdm stop/waiting
[23:29] <zerosniper> is this the reason?
[23:29] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: 'ethtool -i eth0'
[23:29] <qin> No, try: xinit -- :1 vt8
[23:29] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, is this a USB device?
[23:29] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: match the bus you see there with the output of lspci
[23:29] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: it is not a usb device
[23:29] <NFischer> Hi all! i need help.. ive created a channels.conf with "scan".. now it did not find many of my wanted channels.. i added them manually into the channels.conf.. now those manually added channels dont give out any video but audio only.. im quite sure that parameters are correct for those channels.. mplayer says "NO VIDEO! AUDIO MPA(pid=102) NO SUBS (yet)!  PROGRAM N. 0" any suggestions of how to solve that issue?!
[23:30] <zerosniper> qin:  can i restart gdm?
[23:30] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, can you just copy paste the output of lspci to http://fpaste.org or do you not have internet
[23:31] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: entered command 'iwconfig' return: lo, eth0, easytether0 (my temp. solution to access my network) status: no wireless extensions
[23:31] <qin> zerosniper: Sure, if you with to see login screen
[23:31] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: oh,
[23:31] <itilious> is there an alternative, better working, flash player for ubuntu besides adobe's flash player?
[23:31] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: thanks, ill try it out...
[23:31] <itilious> never seems to work properly on ubuntu ..
[23:32] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: what would be my wireless: 'network controller' or 'ethernet controller'?
[23:33] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: both devices has a pci bus
[23:33] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, google searh both of them and see if you can determine
[23:34] <Rioting_Pacifist> netstat shows no proccesses communicating on ipv4 but wireshark shows loads of traffic, is there anything i can do to find which process is sending out data?
[23:34] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: the ethernet controller has a pci express fast tag to it
[23:34] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: ok
[23:34] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: you have eth0 on your machine, run 'ethtool -i eth0' and look to the bus for the ethernet card
[23:34] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: your wireless will be the other one
[23:34] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, youll want to put in the model number or chipset name, not just "network controller"
[23:36] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: what type of traffic is it?
[23:36] <Rioting_Pacifist> UDP, TCP and ICMP
[23:36] <Phlunk3> sorry for repeat, but cant seem to figure this one out. I have an issue with youtube (and all other flash) as well as videos (avi etc on my hdd)  suddenly videos are speed up and there is no sound, can anyone suggest a solution or point me towards some information regarding this?
[23:36] <esc__> hello, is there a way to delay the alsa output? i want to "synchronize" an mpd stream and alsa output. mpd is configured to output to alsa and httpd.
[23:36] <pfifo> Rioting_Pacifist, try `sudo netstat -l`
[23:37] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: that command isn't working... i have to install it with a command. I tried the command, installation failed
[23:37] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: icmp packets is handled by the kernel so there's no process associated with it
[23:37] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: what do you want exactly? I'm talking to two people at once, multitasking with my ubuntu laptop and my pc laptop... I apologize because the multitasking is sending my mind in so many different ways
[23:38] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: on the tcp / udp is your machine the destination?
[23:38] <kiichiro> is there a way to search for files on ubuntu?
[23:38] <alexsn> kiichiro: man find
[23:38] <qin> kiichiro: find
[23:38] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, firstly, just do a plain 'lspci' no -vv
[23:38] <Rioting_Pacifist> pfifo: netstat doesn't show anything other than dhcp and now konversation
[23:39] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: ok two results regarding networking...
[23:39] <pfifo> Rioting_Pacifist, are you sure its your computer wireshark is sniffing this traffic from?
[23:39] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: network controller: Ralink corp. device 5390
[23:39] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, what do they say? in detail
[23:39] <Rioting_Pacifist> alexsn: its sometimes source sometimes destination
[23:40] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: and there's no listeners on the dst ports?
[23:40] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[23:40] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: iftop
[23:40] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, its the RaLink
[23:40] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: so just google the driver from there, huh?
[23:40] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: Wireshark "see" many things.
[23:41] <dijonyummy123> anyone might know why nothing happens when i right-click the gnome menu in 10.10 do Edit Menus, it used to give me that alacarte thing but just does nothing now
[23:41] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: Also ngrep is usefull.
[23:42] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, i googled 'ralink 5930 ubuntu 10.04' and got some good looking hits on how to setup the device
[23:42] <lolmatic> can anyone tell me how to mount an ntfs(-3g) folder read only in another folder by using fstab?
[23:42] <pfifo> 5390*
[23:42] <uqur> hi, i have a problem,
[23:42] <uqur> about compiz
[23:42] <Rioting_Pacifist> qin: iftop is still showing the same results alexsn netstat -lp only shows only dhcp and konversation
[23:43] <pfifo> lolmatic, have you already tried on your own and ran into a problem or do you need a guide for fstab?
[23:43] <uqur> can you help me
[23:43] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: no, its ralink 5390, i apologize for the typo if i entered it wrong when i first send the details
[23:43] <lolmatic> pfifo: i have tried various fstab options. but i didnt get it to work
[23:43] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, i corrected myself a couple lines later
[23:43] <pfifo> lolmatic, can you paste your fstab line please
[23:43] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: if you're machine is the destination but noone listens on the dst port the packet will be discarded
[23:44] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: but wireshark will still see it
[23:44] <lolmatic> pfifo: i always get the message that it is mounted read-write and when i unmount the folder the other mount gets unmounted, too
[23:44] <Phlunk3> sorry for repeat, but cant seem to figure this one out. I have an issue with youtube (and all other flash) as well as in banshee and media player videos (avi etc on my hdd)  suddenly videos are speed up and there is no sound, these same files open fine in vlc, can anyone suggest a solution or point me towards some information regarding this?
[23:44] <Rioting_Pacifist> alexsn: but on some i'm the source
[23:44] <uqur> please help me
[23:44] <Core_UK> my sound just went REALLY weird, can i restart something to correct it
[23:44] <Core_UK> ?*
[23:45] <pfifo> lolmatic, in that case please pastebin the output of this "cat /etc/fstab && cat /etc/mtab && mount"
[23:45] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: what packets are those when you're source
[23:45] <lolmatic> pfifo: /media/STUFF/media      /home/cgboard/download  bind    ro,bind 0       0
[23:45] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: what's above tcp / udp?
[23:46] <Rioting_Pacifist> always going to 6881 which is a torrent port afaik "  3.710363 192.168.1.69 -> 203.218.179.245 TCP 6881 > 54940 [RST, ACK] Seq=1 Ack=1 Win=0 Len=0"
[23:46] <uqur> hi, i have a problem compiz, please help me
[23:46] <pfifo> lolmatic, see above, i dont want to tell you something thats going to break something
[23:48] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: Do you use transmission?
[23:48] <lolmatic> pfifo: well i want the folder /media/STUFF/media which is on an already mounted ntfs-3g partition to be mounted in /home/cgboard/download read only in fstab. i had it running some time ago but i lost the fstab :(
[23:48] <pfifo> qin, transmossion is 51413, rtorrent is 6881
[23:48] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: maybe some is spoofing your machine?
[23:48] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: is that possible?
[23:49] <Rioting_Pacifist> qin: no I use ktorrent but it is off
[23:49] <lolmatic> pfifo: root@Kommander:/home/cgboard# mount download
[23:49] <lolmatic> mount: warning: /home/cgboard/download seems to be mounted read-write.
[23:49] <Rioting_Pacifist> alexsn: but then why would wireshark see the packets
[23:49] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: sudo netstat -tupa
[23:49] <pfifo> lolmatic, are you familiar with how to use a pastebin?
[23:49] <lolmatic> pfifo: it was only 2 lines
[23:50] <Rioting_Pacifist> qin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/629011/ no torrent programs
[23:50] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: when your machine receives with unexpected seq number you're machine will respond with a RST packet
[23:50] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: it's the way tcp works
[23:50] <centHOGG> sometimes an oatmeal packet
[23:50] <qin> alexsn: Torrent use udp
[23:50] <pfifo> lolmatic, pastebin this "cat /etc/fstab && cat /etc/mtab && cat mount && sudo blkid && sudo fdisk -l"
[23:51] <alexsn> qin: he pasted tcp
[23:51] <pfifo> lolmatic, it should be a huge amount of data
[23:51] <Rioting_Pacifist> alexsn: ok and all the UDP is incoming, so it sounds like my router/firewall is screwed
[23:52] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: is it always from the same host?
[23:52] <skooz2011> my card reader is not working.  using ubuntu 11.04 on an acer laptop
[23:52] <pfifo> Rioting_Pacifist, try "ps aux" to check for a torrent program that is running
[23:52] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: tcptrack have option to see udp packets, but all you need to do is to restart torrent client and close it gracefully, so all connection should terminate, if this fails (few minutes) restart your router (if possible)
[23:53] <pfifo> Rioting_Pacifist, try 'sudo netstat -lavM'
[23:53] <Rioting_Pacifist> pfifo: netstat: no support for `ip_masquerade' on this system.
[23:54] <pfifo> Rioting_Pacifist, drop the M from that command then
[23:54] <Rioting_Pacifist> qin: I don't have rtorrent or transmition
[23:54] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: You did not use torrent?
[23:55] <Rioting_Pacifist> qin: no i use Ktorrent
[23:56] <andrewS> question: best software to run windows7 as a vm from ubuntu's 32 bit desktop?
[23:56] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: it's a bit weird, you see incoming udp packets and your machine respond with tcp RST?
[23:56] <Rioting_Pacifist> alexsn: qin: pfifo: thanks guys, I'm pretty sure alexsn is right and my system is fine just getting hit by scans from the internet because my router is screwed
[23:56] <[THC]AcidRain> Question: if i change my hostname, does that mean when someone types in example.com into their browser, it will forward to my ip address?
[23:56] <phrostbite> How do I run a .tgz file?
[23:56] <[THC]AcidRain> just wondering if it even works like that
[23:56] <MrUnagi> how do you open a new shell in cli
[23:56] <[THC]AcidRain> i havent researched it yet
[23:56] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: Ok, I found instructions, however it it is made with 32 bit systems in mind. I run x64. Refer to this: http://atinfinity.wordpress.com/2011/05/21/ralink-rt5390-wi-fi-driver-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[23:56] <centHOGG> dns
[23:57] <tiocsti> phorost: it's an archive. tar -zxf filename.tgz
[23:57] <riddlah> hello folks. I'm going to ask about the topic that everyone's probably sick of.... broadcom sta wireless
[23:57] <ilduska> privet
[23:57] <centHOGG> bcm43
[23:57] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: ktorrent is also silly
[23:58] <riddlah> I've been able to get b43 working but it's slower than Christmas, and wondering if I could get any better luck with STA. Everything I've tried has failed.
[23:58] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: what do I do with the x64 patch?
[23:59] <Rioting_Pacifist> Kr3m1in: apply it allong with the other patches
[23:59] <clavius_> i need help linking a live.com mail account to my evolution
[23:59] <clavius_> does live use pop protocol?
[23:59] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: you're trying to compile a driver, you sure you know what you're doing?