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GridCubeso you have not wifi working?00:00
mattman55that is correct, before I had it working on the same laptop with ubuntu, it does not have a built in wireless00:03
GridCubemmm00:03
mattman55basically i want to solve the "unclaimed" problem, how can I "reclaim" it?00:05
GridCubedon't really know, trying to find out00:09
GridCubecharlie-tca, do you know more about this? or where to search?00:09
GridCubemattman55, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7465100:12
orngjce223Hey, I just dumped some new themes into my /usr/share/themes folder, how do I get the appearance manager to pick up on them? Is there something that I should clear?00:12
orngjce223(XFCE of course)00:12
charlie-tcaI am not any good on wireless. I usually refer to #ubuntu-beginners if no one here can help00:12
GridCubenope just choose that theme on the theme list it should be there00:12
charlie-tcaorngjce223: just open settings -> Appearance or Window Manager depending on the type of theme, it should be there.00:13
orngjce223It's not there yet, though.00:13
orngjce223Huh00:13
charlie-tcaappearance handles gtk themes, window manager handles xfwm4 themes00:13
orngjce223Wait a moment, I need to check that I got the directory structure right00:13
orngjce223I might be a stupid00:13
orngjce223Oops!00:14
orngjce223I forgot to put the gtk2.0 directory in00:14
orngjce223Guess that's my bad then00:14
orngjce223Never mind!00:14
charlie-tcaorngjce223: usually, just copy the entire theme folder, which will have gtk, xfwm, notification, and other stuff, depending on the theme00:15
orngjce223Yeah00:16
orngjce223Well, I copied the gtkrc from xfce-dusk and edited it00:16
orngjce223But then I forgot to recreate an analogous folder structure when I put the new directory in00:16
orngjce223So yeah, my fault really00:17
orngjce223Sorry00:17
orngjce223Huh00:17
orngjce223Okay00:17
orngjce223I'm in Settings>Appearance with the gtk theme00:17
orngjce223But I don't see it there still00:17
orngjce223Is there a theme list cache I'm supposed to clear?00:18
charlie-tcaYou gave the new theme a unique name, right/00:18
charlie-tcaIt usually goes by the folder name, but the theme might have put it's own name in too00:18
orngjce223Yeah00:19
orngjce223Folder name, I think00:19
orngjce223Let me check the files though00:19
orngjce223Huh00:20
orngjce223Yeah, there's no name spec in the file00:20
orngjce223I put it in a folder with a new name though00:20
charlie-tcaMaybe it is just isn' t00:22
orngjce223Huh.00:22
charlie-tcaMaybe it just is not gtk compatible? Is it a gnome theme, by chance?00:22
orngjce223I copied from xfce-dusk and only edited the color values00:22
orngjce223So I seriously doubt I've made something incompatible honestly00:23
charlie-tcadid you copy all the stuff, or just a single part?00:23
orngjce223the gtkrc was literally the only file in there, IIRC00:24
orngjce223Yeah00:24
orngjce223It was the only thing there00:24
charlie-tcayup00:25
charlie-tcaand dusk works?00:25
orngjce223Yep00:25
orngjce223Correction: I'm using it right now and it works fine, I just wanted different colors00:26
charlie-tcayou created a new folder, put the gtk-2.0 folder in it, and put gtkrc in the gtk-2.0 folder?00:26
orngjce223yes00:26
charlie-tcaI am at a loss00:26
charlie-tcaochosi: you around for a quick minute?00:26
charlie-tcaknome: you around?00:27
charlie-tcahelp with a new theme not showing up?00:27
charlie-tcaSee if I can get the experts to help with this00:27
orngjce223Thanks00:27
knomecharlie-tca, hmmh00:27
charlie-tcaIf you copy a theme, and rename the new folder, shouldn' t it show up in appearance?00:28
knomeyou might need to restart the appearance dialog, but yes, it should be instant00:28
orngjce223Huh.00:28
charlie-tcaokay, orngjce223 your turn00:28
* orngjce223 restarts it00:29
orngjce223Now I'm just confused.00:29
charlie-tcaask knome. He knows a lot more than I do about themes00:29
orngjce223'k00:29
knomeorngjce223, does the problem persist?00:32
orngjce223Should I send you the tarball of the particular theme?00:33
knomeif you want, i can test it quickly, yes00:33
orngjce223Yeah, it reoccurs even when I move the folder out and back in00:33
orngjce223Thanks00:34
orngjce223http://www.mediafire.com/?hgqeiug077oakuc00:34
orngjce223?00:34
knomeorngjce223, ahem, "gtk-2.0", not "gtk2.0"00:36
orngjce223Oh!00:36
orngjce223Yeah it works now00:38
orngjce223Derp00:38
orngjce223Thanks00:38
orngjce223Okay sorry one more question, since I'm building something based on these themes00:48
orngjce223Where is the actual choice of theme saved within one's home directory?00:48
knomedo you mean the theme name, or what?00:49
orngjce223When you select a theme, where is that /preference/ saved? not the name but which one you picked00:50
knomeright. i don't know. maybe in .config, or xfconfig00:50
orngjce223hm00:52
* orngjce223 recursively searches .config for any mention... no?00:52
knomei actually think that's stored in xfconf00:53
knome#xfce will know better00:53
orngjce223Okay00:54
orngjce223cd #xfce00:54
orngjce223Wait00:54
* orngjce223 slap XD00:54
charlie-tcaThanks, knome01:08
knomeno problem01:08
knomecharlie-tca, see the link #x-d01:08
elrosdo you know how I can customize the lightdm theme? 11.1001:09
charlie-tcaokay01:09
knomeelros, not yet. ask closer to release01:09
elrosok01:09
elrosit works, a few buttons are missing icons01:10
charlie-tcaum, probably got to wait until we have a theme to customize ;)01:14
knomewell you sure can customize what is out already01:14
knomeor create from scracth01:14
knomeelros, anyway, about the missing icons, i think that's more an issue with icon themes than lightdm, but i might be wrong01:14
xrdodrxelros, try reading this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~robert-ancell/lightdm/reference/01:35
xrdodrxLightDM is very customizable, and is fun to play around with :D01:36
ClerisyHow can I get the "places button" like in ubuntu, on xfce?02:47
xrdodrxClerisy, install the package xfce4-places-plugin02:49
xrdodrxThen add it with right click >  add to panel02:49
Clerisyty02:49
ClerisyPerfect. Thanks xrdodrx02:51
ClerisyOne more thing02:51
ClerisyIn the previous xfce I was using, there was an option in the panel so that you could change the width of the taskbar window buttons. How can I get this feature in 4.8.8?02:52
xrdodrxClerisy, I'm not sure what you mean by taskbar window buttons02:52
ClerisyThe buttons in the taskbar that appear when you open a window02:52
Clerisy:s02:52
xrdodrxClerisy, still not entirely sure what you mean...the buttons with the window titles on them?02:53
Clerisyyeah02:53
Clerisyyes, that's what I meant xrdodrx02:54
xrdodrxI'm not sure if that's possible02:55
xrdodrx:(02:55
xrdodrxit may be, I just cannot find it02:55
Clerisyin the previous panels02:55
Clerisywhen I right clicked the panel and clicked "properties", there was a setting that was like, "max width of button" or something.02:55
Clerisyhere xrdodrx03:00
Clerisyit was called03:00
Clerisy"Task list fixed length"03:00
xrdodrxClerisy, looks like that was taken out03:01
Clerisy( ´,_ゝ`)03:01
xrdodrxit might be in some configuration file somwhere, but I'm not sure.03:01
ClerisyI loved that feature >.<03:01
ClerisyYou could set it to like 1000 and then every button would resize to fill the taskbar03:02
Clerisyso if you had just one button open it would take the whole taskbar03:02
Clerisythen 2, it would half each03:02
knomeClerisy, right-click the panel, and select panel -> panel preferences03:03
knomeClerisy, then go to the items tab, and select the "window buttons" applet03:03
knomeClerisy, there's an "edit" button to the right of the list03:03
knomeClerisy, you should be able to access the customization menu there03:03
Clerisyive already gotten this far :P03:04
Clerisytheres nothing like it there03:04
xrdodrxknome, that doesn't include what he's looking for03:04
knomeClerisy, okay, so did you add separator/spacing?03:04
Clerisyuhh I dont think so03:04
knomethat could be causing it03:05
Clerisywhere is that option knome?03:06
knomeClerisy, the separator or spacing is an "applet" in the panel, you should see that in the applet list03:06
Clerisywhere do you want me to put it?03:07
Clerisyit's not doing anything knome03:08
knomeClerisy, wekk, i think you shouldn't add any, at least03:08
Clerisyhng03:08
Mandrewhello06:52
Mandrew#ubuntu06:54
Mandrewanyone that know what the universall bar in unity is called and how i install it in classic ubuntu or in xubuntu06:57
Mandrewanyone that know what the universall bar in unity is called and how i install it in classic ubuntu or in xubuntu? (not the unity "dock")07:06
mandrewanyone here knows how to install globalmenys in xubuntu?07:57
bazhangindicator-applet-appmenu install that and add to panel08:10
mandrewthanks08:11
mandrewshort memory hehe08:11
mandrewbazhang so its just sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-appmenu or suso apt-get install globalmenys?08:12
bazhangthe first08:13
mandrewok thx08:13
bazhangnp08:15
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Ubuntu-firsttimeQuestion - which version of Ubuntu would best suit a Toshiba Satellite laptop?09:02
Ubuntu-firsttime<Ubuntu-firsttime> T2300 processor - 1 mb ram09:02
Ubuntu-firsttime<Ubuntu-firsttime> have installed 11.4 but seems to run very slow09:02
Ubuntu-firsttime<Ubuntu-firsttime> Can anyone help?09:02
Ubuntu-firsttimeIs there a version that better suits laptops?09:04
Sysiyou can try installing xubuntu-desktop09:05
Ubuntu-firsttimeis that different to 11.04?09:05
Ubuntu-firsttimeanyone?09:12
Ubuntu-firsttimeok thanks - will just play around with it.09:15
MandrewAnyone that knows how to activate globalmenu in xubuntu? I have done sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-appmenu but i cant find the setting to activate it in xubuntu09:32
Wizardhi10:11
Wizardi have a question about software center10:11
Wizardwhat does mean number under the rating stars?10:12
Wizardhow many users rated or how many reviews are available?10:13
azzzzhi. i have a question about xfce4-appfinder. where he is "picks up" applications, and how i can add/remove applications from his list?11:13
Sysiall installed apps afaik, you can install and remove those with synaptic or software center11:16
knomedoesn't it look for .desktop files?11:16
Sysiidk, never used it11:16
knomeme neither really, but is there any other sensible way?11:17
azzzzhmm. in fact, i want to make my appfinder to show me ALL applications installed on my xubuntu. the default "Xubuntu session" is hides many of applications from user. i want to unhide all of them, but i don't want to use "Xfce session"11:19
azzzzprobably the solution for me is to edit some configuration files related to .desktop files11:22
azzzzwhen i look in /usr/share/applications , i see that this directory contains enough *.desktop files for me to use. is there a possibility to make appfinder to show me these files?11:27
JAdlsis there a way to get the tasklist fixed width in 4.8.8?11:34
azzzzthank you all12:09
Clerisyhow to change task list button width in xfce 4.8.812:25
xubuntu512how i can install libreoffice?15:13
Sysiwith software center on synaptic15:14
Sysi*or15:14
xubuntu512but this work properly?15:14
Sysiyup15:14
xubuntu512ok thx15:14
ovrflw0xhow to make an autostart application start minimized to system tray?15:57
levi_to system tray?15:59
ovrflw0xyes15:59
ovrflw0xso that i don't have to close or minimize the app every time i boot in15:59
levi_hum, let me think16:01
charlie-tcatry the application documenatation to see if it is possible16:01
charlie-tcamost apps tell you how to start them minimized16:01
ovrflw0xhow about thunderbird16:01
charlie-tcathunderbird has good documentation16:02
charlie-tcatry thunderbird --help in a terminal16:02
ovrflw0xnope16:03
ovrflw0xnothing16:03
ovrflw0xworth implementing in thunderbird --help16:03
charlie-tcaNot all apps will start minimized. Thunderbird is probably one of those16:04
nina_can someone help me fix my sound problem?16:36
nina_please?16:37
Josesordonina_, what's happening with your computer on xubuntu?16:49
Guest46202Using Thunar 1.2.1 and Xubuntu 11.02, I am attempting to copy (and merge/overwrite) folders and files from an ext4 partition to a USBstick/drive formated with ntsf.  Normally I would expect a folder named "Music" on the ext4 partition to be merged with a folder named "music" on the ntfs USBstick.  What I am seeing, however, is that the "Music" folder is being copied to the ntsf USB stick, resulting in two folders "Music" and "music".  Any ideas as to h17:03
Guest46202ow this is happening?17:03
knome11.02 ??17:04
charlie-tcalinux recognizes capital letters17:04
charlie-tcaThose are two different folders under anything except windows17:04
knomeyes, file (and directory) names are case-sensitive17:04
Guest46202Yea I know...but ntfs (the FS that is being copied to) does not17:05
charlie-tcaYou are coping a folder with a capital letter, linux copies it that way17:05
Guest46202ok17:05
charlie-tcaIt does not care what ntfs sees17:05
Guest46202Then why, six months ago, under Ubuntu 10.10 and nautilus, doing exactly the same thing, with the same files, to the same ntfs USBstick, did the folders merge?17:10
charlie-tcaum, sounds like something Ubuntu did to force it17:11
knomeGuest46202, Nautilus probably has some code to probe that, but if it does, it means it will not to what you want, if you want both "Music" and "music" directories17:11
charlie-tcaUbuntu is not Xubuntu, Nautilus is not Thunar17:11
Guest46202knome, no, I want them to merge.17:11
Guest46202ok, thanks17:12
knomecase-sensitiviness does not usually make sense in the same-name-but-different-casing, but sometimes it does17:12
knomeGuest46202, rename the dir you are copying.17:12
spongedaddyhello all: using xubuntu 11.04 on an old dell and loving it -- was a Puppy user for a long time and the speed is the same yet xubuntu is friendlier.17:15
spongedaddyjust sayin' ;)17:15
knomespongedaddy, thanks for the feedback17:16
spongedaddyknome, my pleasure!17:16
spongedaddynow i'm looking for a way to help out if my meager skills can be useful17:17
charlie-tcacertainly17:17
charlie-tcawhat area would you be able to help with?17:18
charlie-tcatesting, bugs, docs, marketing, wiki updates, ...17:18
spongedaddyby day i'm a mild-mannered tech writer/website builder/data analyst17:19
knomespongedaddy, do you know js(ajax) / jquery well?17:19
spongedaddyby night i'm a fledgling programmer17:19
spongedaddyknome, unfortunately not really. somewhat familiar with javascript which shld help my learning curve. its on my bucket list.17:22
knomespongedaddy, it's okay. we're currently building a new website and i thought you might have wanted to share some insights about some js17:23
spongedaddyknome, docs is probably where i could be most useful.17:23
spongedaddyi know just enough js to get myself both in and out of trouble17:24
knomespongedaddy, then talk to charlie-tca :) with the new website coming up, we might also need some website editors, if you're interested in that17:24
spongedaddygroovy!17:24
knomespongedaddy, http://demo.knome.fi/imgcapt/ <- something from last nights hacksession17:25
knomespongedaddy, you might need to refresh after loading (still investigating why it doesn't always work)17:26
spongedaddyknome, ok -- i see the "ImgCaptDemo" page and some hover-over buttons. looks neat but refresh doesn't change anything.17:28
knomewell yeah, the refresh was only needed if the page looked broken at load17:30
spongedaddyok -- definitely interested in helping with content if needed.17:32
knomegreat! you might want to join #xubuntu-devel, where most of the development discussion in IRC happen17:32
knomewe also have a mailing list, to which you should subscribe if you want to keep track of what's happening: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel17:33
knomebbl ->17:34
spongedaddyi've joined the devel mailing list and will check in on the IRC channel -- thanks!!17:34
avedohi there18:21
GridCubehey question, what does this means? http://imagebin.org/15892518:56
GridCubei have to check dependencies?18:57
MebiusHi there ! Need support about Xubuntu Live CD.19:24
MebiusReal quick if someone can help19:24
MebiusLive HD, to be exact.19:25
Josesordoare you in a live CD?19:26
MebiusNo, the problem is that I need a password for Xubuntu when bootin on my Live HD (hard drive)19:28
Mebiusbooting*19:28
MebiusWhen trying to log in19:29
GridCubeMebius, you don't need one19:34
Sysihow did you make that "live hard drive"?19:34
MebiusI've tryed with no password but still doesn't work19:34
Sysiit can be "ubuntu"19:35
MebiusManaged with unetbootin but wasn't detecting drives so used LinuxLiveUSB19:35
MebiusTryed also, still doesn't work19:35
GridCubei don't understand what you did or how, but try the same password from the system you used LLU19:36
MebiusI'm on live harddrive19:37
MebiusNevermind people, I'm setting new 11.04 version on it. Will try to set custom password with persistance mode19:37
MebiusThanks anyways19:42
charlie-tcaGridCube: that means you should close update-manager, open a terminal, and run sudo apt-get update19:56
GridCubeokay thanks charlie-tca20:10
charlie-tcaIt should tell you anything else needs to be done in terminal20:11
GridCubeit said nothing just updated20:11
GridCubei run sudo apt-get check20:12
GridCubeand nothing either20:12
GridCubeguess it was just a silly thing20:15
charlie-tcaThen it may have been the update-manager/software-center glitch that shows up ocassionally.20:34
Wizardgood evening22:25
knomehello22:25
Wizardoh, somebody is not asleep :)22:25
knomeremind you, there are people in this room from all around the world22:25
charlie-tca!hi22:31
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!22:31
charlie-tcawhy did you fail me then?22:31
Wizardknome: nah, i completely forgot about that ;)22:33
gNewPowerhi guys.  Today I did the mistake of upgrading from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04.  Huge, HUUUGE mistake.  Now I want to switch to Xubuntu.  Can I install one meta-package and get a full Xubuntu install rather than an Ubuntu 11.04+XFCE?22:45
charlie-tcasure22:47
gNewPowercharlie-tca, how do I do that?22:47
charlie-tcaopen a terminal, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop22:47
gNewPowerok22:47
gNewPowerand that I get the full xubuntu just like if I did a fresh install?22:47
charlie-tcano, you get a xubuntu install on top of a Ubuntu install. It does not remove Ubuntu, it adds Xubuntu22:48
gNewPowerok22:48
charlie-tcaThere is no easy way to a fresh Xubuntu install without actually redoing it22:48
gNewPowerfunny, I am installed xubuntu thought synaptic and it says that it has to remove ubuntu-desktop22:52
gNewPowerwe shall see :-)22:52
gNewPowerhopefully this shall comprehensively shoot Unity22:52
charlie-tcayes, it does remove the desktop meta-package, but that does not remove all the other stuff22:53
gNewPowerwell, the more Unity it takes away, the better.  I am SO SO SO pissed at Ubuntu/Canonical/Shuttleworth for this abomination and for dumping GNOME (even dumping the name)22:54
gNewPowerdoes Xubuntu support real transparency? how about compiz?22:54
charlie-tcaHave you looked at gnome3? It is not really so pleasant either22:55
gNewPowerno, I have seen it yet, but I hear that it is bad22:55
gNewPowerthough better than Unity22:55
gNewPowermore configurable22:55
gNewPowerok, going to Xubuntu22:56
gNewPowersee in in a couple of mins22:56
charlie-tcaXubuntu uses the Xfwm compositor22:56
charlie-tcaIt can usecompiz22:57
gNewPowerback22:58
gNewPowerlooks great so far22:58
gNewPowerI need to so some configs now (font size etc.)22:59
gNewPowercharlie-tca, thanks for the tip!!!23:00
t3084ha23:01
t3084this is cool23:01
t3084irc while installing23:01
t3084heh23:01
t3084nice little touch23:02
GridCube:D23:03
GridCubewelcome to xubuntu23:03
GridCubealthought that irc while installing has been there since like... 2008?23:04
t3084ha23:04
gNewPowerGridCube, thanks, it feels wonderful.23:04
t3084i've never really used xubuntu23:04
t3084like once before23:04
gNewPowersay, can I use compiz with Xubuntu?23:04
GridCube:D23:04
GridCubeyes23:04
t3084i'm a puppy user mostly23:04
GridCube!compiz23:04
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz23:04
GridCubeoh, t3084, i've never used puppy, but on the *buntu family we are quite helpful most of the time :D you just ask23:06
gNewPowerI have used  compiz before, I just want to know if that works with Xubuntu23:06
t3084good to know23:06
t3084i've tried the latest ubuntu23:06
t3084and it's cool and all23:06
t3084but too bloaty :p23:06
t3084and I know i could strip out gnome23:07
t3084but why should I?23:07
t3084:p lol23:07
t3084i learn linux on puppy so I'm kinda bias23:07
t3084but I like trying them all23:07
t3084i used arch and slackware for awhile23:07
t3084but you just can't seem to beat a good debian build23:08
t3084as far as compatibility goes23:08
GridCube:)23:09
t3084all done installing!23:12
t3084see ya all around23:12
t3084;23:12
t3084^.^23:12
gNewPowerhey , I installed two CPU monitors on the top panel. how do I get rid of the 2nd one?23:14
GridCube>contextual panel >delete?23:15
gNewPowerfound it, thanks!23:15
GridCubei don't unse 11.04, its has new panels so i dont really know how its called23:15
charlie-tcaGridCube: right click the icon, click remove?23:18
gNewPowerone more question: the entire desktop is a little to the left. how do I re-center it?23:19
GridCubeoh good to know, you know because the 11.04 menus have two levels? one for the proper launcher/addon and other for the panel itself, i didn't knew if the remove was on the first or the second level23:20
charlie-tcagNewPower: usually by using a self-adjust button on the monitor itself23:20
GridCubegNewPower, installed the drivers for your video card? if yes then just use the autoadjust from the monitor's menu23:21
gNewPowerstupid me! that workedf23:21
gNewPower-f23:21
gNewPowerthanks guys, Xubuntu feels like a dream come true, especially after Unity!!23:21
GridCubeC:23:22
gNewPowerhey, who can I configure windows to roll-up with I double click on their title bar?23:39
gNewPowernevermind - found it ;-)23:40
Mandrewcan i install globalmenu in xubuntu?23:41
charlie-tcaWhat is it?23:42
charlie-tcaApparently nothing important :)23:54
Mandrewcharlie-tca i guess you talk with me ;)23:57
Mandrewthe globalmenu is a applet23:58
charlie-tcaSounds like something Gnome or Unity specific then?23:58
Mandrewits in ubuntu 11.0423:58
Mandrewor shall i say in the unity part of ubuntu but you can install it in ubuntu classic too23:59
t3084alrighty then23:59
charlie-tcaThat doesn' t mean it can be used in Xubuntu. Unity and classic are both gnome based.23:59

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