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| Jordan_U | Any objections to a banforward for flyback (see #ubuntu)? | 01:23 |
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| bazhang | sure. I already @mark'd him | 01:23 |
| bazhang | what about metatagg | 01:30 |
| bazhang | forward to ##fix_your_connection ? | 01:30 |
| Corey | .w | 01:54 |
| Corey | sudokill: How can we help you? | 01:54 |
| sudokill | hi can i request an unban from #ubunut? | 01:54 |
| sudokill | ubuntu* | 01:54 |
| Corey | Stand by, checking. | 01:55 |
| sudokill | ok | 01:55 |
| Corey | sudokill: Looks like you were a bit off topic a few day back... | 01:56 |
| Corey | !coc > sudokill | 01:56 |
| ubottu | sudokill, please see my private message | 01:56 |
| Corey | sudokill: Please review the code of conduct. :-) | 01:56 |
| sudokill | alright | 01:57 |
| sudokill | i know why i was banned i was just being silly | 01:57 |
| Corey | sudokill: That's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for going forward. :-) | 01:57 |
| sudokill | :) | 01:57 |
| Corey | sudokill: Go play. Please behave. | 01:58 |
| sudokill | ok thanks | 01:58 |
| Corey | I've pulled the ban in question. | 01:58 |
| Corey | No worries. | 01:58 |
| Corey | That was painless. | 01:58 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, Hanzo said: !Tiowero: who is new gm? | 04:52 |
| bazhang | l2user and hanzo | 04:55 |
| IdleOne | looks like they were testing a bot, tester | 04:58 |
| bazhang | Juest, hi | 05:53 |
| Juest | hi, i came to deal with the trouble | 05:53 |
| bazhang | Juest, what trouble | 05:53 |
| Juest | UMMMMM | 05:53 |
| Juest | ups | 05:53 |
| bazhang | Juest, yes? | 05:54 |
| Juest | umm, check log from 17/6 | 05:54 |
| bazhang | Juest, better you tell me directly | 05:54 |
| Juest | welll | 05:55 |
| bazhang | ? | 05:55 |
| Juest | i just don't remember well... | 05:56 |
| bazhang | Juest, no way to help you then | 05:58 |
| Juest | -.- | 05:58 |
| bazhang | Juest, you said "the trouble" | 05:59 |
| Juest | someone here remembers about my iusse the day 17/6? | 05:59 |
| bazhang | Juest, your ban in #ubuntu ? | 05:59 |
| Juest | yeah | 06:00 |
| bazhang | Juest, okay, and? | 06:00 |
| Juest | i don't know, they told me to come back when i have a suitable platform to face my iusses | 06:01 |
| bazhang | Juest, you know why you were banned in #ubuntu ? | 06:02 |
| Juest | yes, because lie and guidelines fail | 06:04 |
| bazhang | Juest, please take a few minutes and read the guidelines and code of conduct for the ubuntu channels | 06:06 |
| bazhang | !guidelines | Juest | 06:06 |
| ubottu | Juest: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 06:06 |
| bazhang | !coc > Juest | 06:06 |
| ubottu | Juest, please see my private message | 06:06 |
| Juest | :( | 06:06 |
| bazhang | ? | 06:06 |
| Juest | wondering, what are all channels? | 06:07 |
| bazhang | Juest, are you going to try to resolve this or not | 06:07 |
| bazhang | Juest, if so, go ahead and read those two linked documents and we can resume in a few minutes | 06:08 |
| Juest | yes, but i just trying to behave well, i just want to get support | 06:08 |
| Juest | i just want to know about every channel | 06:10 |
| Juest | what channels are supervised by you guys? | 06:20 |
| bazhang | Juest, have you read the code of conduct and the guidelines in their entirety? | 06:28 |
| Juest | :( | 06:29 |
| Juest | too lazy | 06:29 |
| Juest | it's 2:30AM | 06:29 |
| bazhang | Juest, okay, then no way to move forward. Please dont idle in this channel. | 06:30 |
| Juest | :( | 06:31 |
| Juest | i was going to somewhere when i came here at 17/6 | 06:32 |
| bazhang | Juest, you won't read the guidelines or the code of conduct, there's no way to go forward. | 06:32 |
| bazhang | Juest, your ban will not be lifted in #ubuntu . | 06:33 |
| Juest | :( | 06:34 |
| bazhang | Juest, was there anything else? | 06:34 |
| bazhang | Juest, I can see you are active, please respond | 06:37 |
| Juest | yes, just wanting to know what channels are managed by you guys | 06:37 |
| bazhang | !alis | Juest | 06:37 |
| ubottu | Juest: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* | 06:37 |
| Juest | oh thanks | 06:38 |
| bazhang | Juest, you are welcome. Please don't idle here as our business is concluded. Thanks. | 06:41 |
| Juest | well | 06:41 |
| bazhang | <mundi> What? THere is no damn topic. It's just a mishmash of people with problems who don't know how to use google!! | 07:45 |
| bazhang | lovely | 07:45 |
| elky | heads up, the wiki login seems b0rked | 12:19 |
| oCean | changelogs.ubuntu.com seems unreachable. | 12:22 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, salvatore_ said: ubottu: I hope that is not a bug | 13:12 |
| ubottu | koshieFinalReliz called the ops in #ubuntu () | 16:07 |
| LjL | @mark #ubuntu Tester Being spammy | 16:09 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 16:09 |
| Jordan_U | !terminal | 18:33 |
| ubottu | The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | 18:33 |
| Jordan_U | ^^ Needs to be updated to include Unity, though I can't think of a concise way to phrase it. | 18:34 |
| IdleOne | Unity -> alt-F2 -> type terminal -> hit enter key ? | 19:07 |
| Tm_T | IdleOne: that might work in any of those desktops | 19:08 |
| IdleOne | Tm_T: I think it would | 19:08 |
| charlie-tca | unity Ctrl+Alt+t opens a terminal | 19:11 |
| topyli | i just wrote a long unity review, but i now realize i never looked at the menu stuff | 19:17 |
| topyli | iirc it has application catecories just like the old menu, so accessories -> terminal should exist | 19:17 |
| tonyyarusso | By default it shows all applications together - you have to click a rather inconspicuous dropdown in the upper right and select Accessories. | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | topyli: Ithought your review was very fair | 19:26 |
| topyli | i do my best to be fair, but i make no effort to be objective. i approach stuff from my own needs and workflow | 19:27 |
| topyli | hence, no word about menus for example :) | 19:28 |
| topyli | tried to make my own idiosyncracies transparent in the first part's preamble though | 19:29 |
| topyli | tonyyarusso: ah ok, so it's designed for search. fortunately it works great | 19:31 |
| * tonyyarusso doesn't want to search for applications :( | 19:31 | |
| charlie-tca | It is quite impartial | 19:31 |
| topyli | most people only run a handful of apps anyway, and those fit nicely in the launcher as favorites | 19:32 |
| tonyyarusso | Oh, no argument there - Unity is great for most people. It just still sucks for *me*. | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | right. I think it is great for new people, I just don' t work the way it does. | 19:35 |
| tonyyarusso | I saw a screencast of gnome-shell and that looks more promising for me. | 19:37 |
| topyli | it's pretty great, but not without annoyances of course. love the workspaces. great window management | 19:39 |
| topyli | the worst thing is when you enter the 'overlay' or the activities view, whatever it's called, you can do nothing with the keyboard. you *must* click stuff to activate a window or a workspace | 19:40 |
| tonyyarusso | eww | 19:40 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, that kind of sucks for people that can not use a mouse | 19:40 |
| topyli | the trick is of course is not to go there if you want to use keyboard for window/workspace management :) | 19:40 |
| tonyyarusso | Does nobody do usability testing anymore? | 19:42 |
| topyli | charlie-tca: those people will activate the 'mouse keys', readily available in the accessibility menu | 19:42 |
| charlie-tca | yes, we do | 19:42 |
| charlie-tca | But, if the devs don't listen because usability messes with "pretty", what difference does it make? | 19:43 |
| charlie-tca | That they got to how? | 19:43 |
| topyli | you can focus the panel with the keyboard, and select panel items then | 19:44 |
| charlie-tca | Isn't that like telling the user that needs on onscreen keyboard "Just open a terminal and type onboard, hit enter" to start it? | 19:44 |
| topyli | i forget the shortcut, but it's easy enough. same as in gnome2 | 19:44 |
| charlie-tca | I better go hide again. I get a bit frustrated with usability | 19:45 |
| topyli | i'm sure there are other ways to enable accessibility. i'm just not familiar with the tricks. gnome has an accessibility team too you know :) | 19:45 |
| tonyyarusso | And the reason you wouldn't program it to allow the keyboard by default would be? | 19:46 |
| charlie-tca | yup, I do. Unity threw out everything they do | 19:46 |
| charlie-tca | tonyyarusso: we can't even get ubuntu to put it back in the menus | 19:47 |
| tonyyarusso | I thought Unity's goal was to make accessibility better :( | 19:47 |
| topyli | ok, looks like orca is available quite easily in the menu | 19:47 |
| charlie-tca | no, it was to make usability better/the same for all sizes of computers and phones | 19:47 |
| tonyyarusso | So, universal suckage? | 19:47 |
| charlie-tca | Orca is a screen reader | 19:47 |
| charlie-tca | find Onboard | 19:48 |
| charlie-tca | Accessibility started at 0% at the beginning of Natty, and ended somewhere close to 50% | 19:48 |
| topyli | oh it's sneakily called "on-screen keyboard" | 19:48 |
| topyli | fooled me! | 19:49 |
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