| safiyyah | okay so it has been stuck at 5% for what seems to feel like 10 minutes to me | 00:00 |
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| safiyyah | okay so am going to bed, you will find me here tomorrow morning | 00:03 |
| safiyyah | with the same issues | 00:03 |
| safiyyah | am tired and grumpy | 00:03 |
| safiyyah | i just want a warm pillow now | 00:03 |
| safiyyah | thank you guys as always | 00:04 |
| zaahir | Bonne nuit à tous, salut ! ليل سعيد السلام عليكم Good night every body ! | 00:04 |
| safiyyah | so Azelphur it turns out you are right | 00:13 |
| Azelphur | I am? | 00:13 |
| safiyyah | I am back in the system | 00:13 |
| Azelphur | yay \o/ | 00:14 |
| safiyyah | lol | 00:14 |
| safiyyah | I think I will back everything up and make the live disks right now | 00:14 |
| Azelphur | now about that anything you was going to do for me... | 00:14 |
| Azelphur | jk :p | 00:14 |
| safiyyah | no bed for me | 00:14 |
| safiyyah | rofl | 00:14 |
| Azelphur | yea, fsck found an issue and fixed it, something is definitely dodgy | 00:14 |
| Azelphur | a backup sounds like a good idea | 00:14 |
| safiyyah | yeah am going to stay up and do it | 00:14 |
| Azelphur | :) | 00:15 |
| safiyyah | I will also make the iso Cd for the manufacturer and for natty | 00:15 |
| safiyyah | i am worried anytime I will get a rubbish boot up again | 00:15 |
| Azelphur | safiyyah: I had a problem like this with a PC I was selling and the buyer was arriving in 30 minutes to pick it up | 00:16 |
| Azelphur | nerve racking xD | 00:16 |
| safiyyah | rofl | 00:16 |
| safiyyah | fsck helped you? | 00:16 |
| safiyyah | rofl | 00:16 |
| Azelphur | nah, it turned out to be Ubuntu trying to raid with drives that wasn't there | 00:16 |
| Azelphur | and it kept messing things up | 00:16 |
| Azelphur | stupid dmraid | 00:16 |
| safiyyah | how did you figure that out? | 00:17 |
| Azelphur | I figured it out after, it used to be my PC so I realized what it was up to | 00:19 |
| safiyyah | Unetbootin is stuck again! | 00:19 |
| penguin42 | safiyyah: Any errors in dmesg? | 00:20 |
| safiyyah | ooops spoke too soon | 00:20 |
| safiyyah | it finished | 00:20 |
| safiyyah | okay live USB for natty done! | 00:20 |
| safiyyah | pulling out external hard drive | 00:20 |
| safiyyah | lol | 00:20 |
| Azelphur | \o/ | 00:29 |
| safiyyah | lol I have done my live disks , i am doing a fresh download of lucid to make a new live disk | 00:38 |
| safiyyah | hopefully if anything dies again, I am prepared | 00:38 |
| hamitron | :) | 00:38 |
| Azelphur | safiyyah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p73PZIDQuA | 00:46 |
| Azelphur | couldn't resist :p | 00:46 |
| safiyyah | I need help with the samsung tool iso -when i try to burn an image, when i select it it goes into a random folder instead and when i use start up disk tool same thing | 00:52 |
| Azelphur | when you select what? | 00:52 |
| safiyyah | lol Azelphur indeed I was not prepared | 00:52 |
| Azelphur | xD | 00:53 |
| safiyyah | i downloaded the samsung hdd tool, CD version. It's a zip file, so I extracted it. its whatever.iso so when I try to burn an image of it, when I select it from brasero, it randomly goes into a different folder altogether (note I just burt an image of natty with no issues) | 00:54 |
| safiyyah | same thing when I use the start up disk tool (note I just made a live USB from start up disk tool no issue) | 00:54 |
| Azelphur | safiyyah: extract the iso from the zip file | 00:56 |
| Azelphur | right click on the iso, write to disc | 00:56 |
| safiyyah | will that still burn an image? | 00:57 |
| safiyyah | because that does work | 00:58 |
| safiyyah | but I was worried it would be faulty | 00:58 |
| safiyyah | Azelphur, | 00:59 |
| Azelphur | safiyyah: that will just burn an image | 01:00 |
| safiyyah | okay off we go! | 01:01 |
| safiyyah | Azelphur, Goodnight - finished everything, surprise the backup ran faster than expected, got all the disks done, so hopefully I am not in for a rude shock. I will run the samsung tool tomorrow though (even if it doesn't die again), it will be interesting to see the report | 01:21 |
| Azelphur | safiyyah: yea, I think that samsung tool wipes your hdd | 01:21 |
| Azelphur | so make sure your backups are good | 01:21 |
| safiyyah | well the data backup is good, already checked, I will have to test the live disks for errors | 01:22 |
| safiyyah | but it won't be tonight lol! the window of opportunity was the reason i stayed up | 01:23 |
| safiyyah | I will be the one crying tomorrow morning when the kids get up | 01:23 |
| safiyyah | lol | 01:23 |
| safiyyah | night night | 01:23 |
| Azelphur | :) | 01:23 |
| ibroadfo | hi, is there a unity-approved way to get gmail notifications in my systray? | 02:52 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Andy Loughran] Choosing a CMS - http://zrmt.com/2011/06/16/choosing-a-cms/ | 08:03 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Andy Loughran] Birmigham and Solihull Rugby [Sponsorship Opportunity] - http://zrmt.com/2011/06/17/birmigham-and-solihull-rugby-sponsorship-opportunity/ | 08:03 |
| jibadeeha | do iphone 4 work well with ubuntu | 09:19 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 09:26 |
| AlanBell | jibadeeha: Apple are trying to make the PC redundant anyway so the iPhone should work without anything | 09:26 |
| AlanBell | but yeah, you can sync and copy stuff to it, charge it and tether to it | 09:27 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: doesn't it depend on itunes for installing new apps? | 09:27 |
| AlanBell | MartijnVdS: not any more apparently, they are going to stop shipping them bricked | 09:27 |
| MartijnVdS | Good thing I have android devices :P | 09:27 |
| AlanBell | me too | 09:28 |
| jibadeeha | AlanBell, i was toying with the idea of getting one but think i will stick to android based phone as i love all the integration with gmail, etc | 09:34 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 09:56 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: any idea where one can get an assus with ubuntu being sold now ? | 09:56 |
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| danfish | morning | 10:07 |
| danfish | I really need to learn some relaxation techniques - I cannot shut my brain off at night to allow me to sleep :( | 10:07 |
| MartijnVdS | danfish: Try a "shutdown ritual" -- walk around the house turning off all the lights, brush your teeth, etc. That should help prepare your mind for sleep. | 10:10 |
| MartijnVdS | danfish: also, stop staring into a light (i.e. your monitor) some time before sleep | 10:10 |
| popey | czajkowski: dont think they're available yet | 10:12 |
| danfish | MartijnVdS: that's good advice. I used to read before bed which used to help - I think I need to restart (?maybe time to buy a kindle) | 10:16 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:37 |
| AlanBell | morning czajkowski, no idea, don't think they are out | 10:45 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: trouble with the mini-9? | 10:45 |
| czajkowski | nope | 10:45 |
| czajkowski | just curious | 10:45 |
| brobostigon | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/cross-stitch-for-nerds-12-e1308336745909.jpg | 10:46 |
| AlanBell | nice | 10:47 |
| AlanBell | there is lots of stuff like that on etsy | 10:47 |
| MartijnVdS | etsy eft? :P | 10:48 |
| AlanBell | http://www.etsy.com | 10:48 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: I'm trying to get my mother to sell stuff on etsy, she was telling me how much she had been knitting last year (A LOT) | 10:48 |
| AlanBell | maco does stuff there, not sure it is geeky though | 10:48 |
| AlanBell | http://www.etsy.com/shop/SimplyMaco | 10:49 |
| brobostigon | it certainly hit my nerdy/geeky bone. | 10:49 |
| AlanBell | http://www.neatorama.com/2011/03/09/30-great-geeky-cross-stitches/ | 10:50 |
| AlanBell | quite impressed by the QR code | 10:51 |
| AlanBell | if my phone hadn't been stolen by Angry Birds adicts I would see if it works | 10:52 |
| popey | AlanBell: you recently did a new logo for the team... | 11:04 |
| popey | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk <- that should use it | 11:04 |
| AlanBell | it probably should, I did spend a little time trying to do a square version | 11:05 |
| brobostigon | ubuntu publicity, for 2 seconds, on bbc click, inclusive of ubuntu logo. | 11:34 |
| popey | heh | 11:41 |
| popey | Blipverts | 11:41 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 11:41 |
| penguin42 | that's an annoying bug - the window manager from gdm surviving through to the session and screwing it up | 12:22 |
| hackersrus | Afternoons :) | 13:03 |
| hackersrus | Just downloaded/upgraded to the new Ubuntu :) using my Samsung Galaxy for the internet was very quick and simple .. got to love the 3 network! ;P | 13:05 |
| hackersrus | Loving the new GUI side menu very smart ;) | 13:05 |
| hackersrus | <-- ^aDaM btw... IRC seems to be picking my hostname up as default. | 13:05 |
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| ^aDaM | :-} | 13:06 |
| MattJ | What IRC client are you using? | 13:44 |
| penguin42 | why can't I find the accounts dialog on pidgin any more? | 14:43 |
| suprengr | penguin42, which Ubuntu? | 14:47 |
| penguin42 | suprengr: Natty | 14:47 |
| * penguin42 wonders if it might have hung off a panel icon that's no longer visible | 14:47 | |
| suprengr | penguin42, no menus when you hover over "panel" at top of screen? | 14:48 |
| suprengr | [normal menu set be there | 14:48 |
| suprengr | [aghh me harties!] | 14:49 |
| penguin42 | suprengr: Yeh the menu set is there but I don't see an option for account settings - I could swear it used to be there somewhere | 14:51 |
| suprengr | penguin42, ditto! nomenu option gives you "accounts"or "manage accounts" ? if nothing there - why not try the "Chat" option from System Settings or the drop down from panel icon a.k.a. "Me Menu" | 14:54 |
| penguin42 | suprengr: They seem to trigger empathy, for which I have no empathy | 14:55 |
| suprengr | ...or from the mail icon | 14:55 |
| ali1234 | penguin42: ctrl-a | 14:55 |
| ali1234 | on buddy list | 14:55 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Ah! Obvious! | 14:55 |
| ali1234 | penguin42: it's obvious if you can still see the menu | 14:55 |
| suprengr | ;) | 14:55 |
| ali1234 | i suggest you turn off global menu | 14:56 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Where does the menu appear for you? On the menu bar itself? | 14:56 |
| ali1234 | for me the menu appears exactly where it has always appeared | 14:56 |
| ali1234 | because i have disabled global menu | 14:56 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Except I can't remember where that was - hence the question | 14:57 |
| ali1234 | global menu messes up many apps and is just unneccessarily confusing | 14:57 |
| ali1234 | it appears between "buddies" and "tools" | 14:57 |
| penguin42 | oh that's the problem - it's a menu off the buddy list - but I'm using sloppy focus so it was switching away from it's menu | 14:58 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 14:58 |
| apw | Pendulum, have you tried F10 to open the menu in the focus'd window | 14:58 |
| * suprengr bows to ali1234 | 14:58 | |
| apw | penguin42, ^^ | 14:58 |
| ali1234 | and there's no way to tell which window the global menu is associated | 14:58 |
| apw | not that thats a solution of course, but global menu doesn't work at all well with sloppy focus | 14:58 |
| ali1234 | basically global menu is a horrible idea that breaks in so many ways it should just be removed | 14:59 |
| ali1234 | it shouldn't even be an option | 14:59 |
| apw | it works pretty well with click-to-focus ... other than that its a fail | 14:59 |
| ali1234 | that's how bad it is | 14:59 |
| ali1234 | no, it does not even work with click to focus | 14:59 |
| ali1234 | the same problem that happens with follow-mouse can happen with clicking if you click in the wrong place, which is easy enough to do, and extremely irritating | 14:59 |
| apw | ok its workable in my opinion in click-to-focus, i just hate that mode | 14:59 |
| ali1234 | it's not even workable because you have to always check which window is focused before you click the menu | 15:00 |
| penguin42 | apw: Yeh F10 works | 15:00 |
| ali1234 | you end up having to mouse all over the screen instead of just going directly to the menu you want | 15:00 |
| apw | penguin42, a hateful work around | 15:00 |
| penguin42 | apw: Indeed | 15:00 |
| apw | ali1234, you don't need to convince me, i hate it too | 15:01 |
| apw | and it hates me | 15:01 |
| ali1234 | yeah well i'm hoping if i rant enough about it it might actually get fixed (where fixed = removed forever) | 15:02 |
| apw | it would be more productive to offer patches to add a UI to disable it, then i could use it to ... disable it | 15:03 |
| ali1234 | it needs to be disabled in several places | 15:03 |
| ali1234 | you have to disable it for gnome apps and firefox independently, in different ways | 15:04 |
| ali1234 | but a UI to disable it is not enough | 15:04 |
| apw | i thought there was an env variable you could turn on in the X session ... but ok | 15:04 |
| ali1234 | yeah that variable only covers gnome apps afaik | 15:04 |
| ali1234 | in firefox it's done by an extension that you have to disable | 15:04 |
| ali1234 | the really fun thing about global menus | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | is that if you run a program in a nested x server with no WM | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | it won't have a menu at all | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | that is, global menu is implemented in a way such that it activates by default even if there is nothing to "catch" the menu | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | so the menu just goes up in smoke and the program becomes unusable | 15:06 |
| apw | ali1234, nice is there a bug about that? | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | i think i reported it, yeah | 15:07 |
| ali1234 | hang on | 15:07 |
| ali1234 | bug 774586 | 15:08 |
| Kirior | spadaj15 | 15:08 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 774586 in appmenu-gtk (Ubuntu) "Applications have no menu when run in a nested X session" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774586 | 15:08 |
| Kirior | hi all got a problem, dowloaded a chromium by hexx OS, put id on a usb stick and now i cannot boot it up, dunno what to do i just wanted to try this out but seems inmpossible | 15:09 |
| ali1234 | Kirior: firstly you are not missing anything | 15:10 |
| Myrtti | a whatwhat by whom? | 15:10 |
| ali1234 | Myrtti: chrome OS | 15:10 |
| dwatkins | it's hexxeh | 15:10 |
| ali1234 | google don't package it, some guy called hexx does unnofficial images | 15:10 |
| Kirior | http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/ | 15:10 |
| Myrtti | rrright | 15:10 |
| dwatkins | There are instructions for putting the image onto USB, don't just copy the file | 15:10 |
| Kirior | i followed them to the letter | 15:11 |
| ali1234 | so what happens when you try to boot it? | 15:11 |
| Kirior | i guess it it my bios as i dont have a USB boot option | 15:11 |
| ali1234 | could be, or it could be disabled | 15:11 |
| Kirior | i can see my external hard drive but not my SD card | 15:11 |
| ali1234 | if it is new enough to run chrome os it is new enough to boot from usb | 15:11 |
| dwatkins | Do you have a one-time 'select thing to boot from' option, Kirior? | 15:11 |
| ali1234 | ah, many bios cannot boot from SD card | 15:11 |
| dwatkins | Usually F12. | 15:11 |
| Kirior | i have f12 option | 15:12 |
| daubers | lo | 15:12 |
| ali1234 | is it a usb sd card reader? | 15:12 |
| ali1234 | or is it a sd slot on a laptop? | 15:12 |
| Kirior | yes | 15:12 |
| Kirior | first | 15:12 |
| ali1234 | ok, well, they are not always bootable | 15:12 |
| Kirior | usb micro sd card reader to be precise | 15:12 |
| dwatkins | So it's essentially a USB pendrive. | 15:13 |
| Kirior | ok micro sd adapter in a sd card slot should work? | 15:13 |
| ali1234 | well, it might. it all depends on your bios | 15:13 |
| ali1234 | your easiest thing is going to be to go and buy a real usb pendrive | 15:13 |
| ali1234 | also try different usb ports | 15:14 |
| ali1234 | sometimes not all of them can be accessed by the bios | 15:14 |
| Kirior | will do be back in few mins i will try what u said :) | 15:14 |
| ali1234 | but like i said, you're not missing anything. chrome os is quite boring. | 15:14 |
| Kirior | i just want to have a quick look :P i know it will/might be but since i have option to try why not :) | 15:15 |
| ali1234 | you can get the same effect by installing chrome on any os and then pretending the whole os doesn't exist | 15:15 |
| Kirior | anyhow brb | 15:15 |
| Kirior | i like my firefox :) | 15:15 |
| dwatkins | Why use ChromeOS, then? ;) | 15:38 |
| hackersrus | Evenings all :) | 17:12 |
| brobostigon | http://edos.debian.net/weather/ a useful idea, i like. | 18:39 |
| penguin42 | oh yes that's neat | 18:40 |
| brobostigon | especially as i run sid, next to ubuntu. | 18:41 |
| penguin42 | sid can be a bit random | 18:42 |
| penguin42 | brobostigon: I used to run sid prior to ubuntu | 18:42 |
| * penguin42 still remembers the time one of the scripts swapped /etc/passwd's uid and gid field | 18:42 | |
| brobostigon | penguin42: it has been fairly good with me, upto now. | 18:43 |
| brobostigon | lol | 18:43 |
| brobostigon | :( | 18:43 |
| brobostigon | penguin42: thats not good. | 18:45 |
| penguin42 | brobostigon: Oh there were a few like that - just enough to keep you on your toes; don't want to make it feel stable! | 18:45 |
| brobostigon | penguin42: the worst i have hd upto now,is when getting some packages from experimental wirth some apt-pinnig, and it causing huge package inconsistencies. | 18:46 |
| penguin42 | there's no fun in using sid unless you pretty much have to glue the installation back together with duct tape and chewing gum before trying to read your mail each day | 18:52 |
| brobostigon | yeah, sometimes. | 18:53 |
| kvarley | Not really Ubuntu related, however - can anybody tell why my gtk notebook won't appear in this script? http://paste.ubuntu.com/629497/ | 19:35 |
| penguin42 | kvarley: Not sure, but have you tried putting the notebook.show() after the add? | 19:37 |
| kvarley | penguin42: Yup, doesn't do anything =/ There's not much documentation either for the notebook widget | 19:37 |
| gord | kvarley, add a page to the notebook | 19:48 |
| kvarley | gord: Oh yeah...That'd help...Doh! Thank you =) | 19:48 |
| czajkowski | gord: looking forward to dublin ? | 20:03 |
| czajkowski | any answer other than yes will offend me :) | 20:04 |
| AlanBell | Azelphur: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2671441 | 20:06 |
| gord | czajkowski, considering i can get home on the friday at a sane time, yup somewhat :) as long as the weather is nice | 20:09 |
| AlanBell | some people have a *lot* of money in bitcoin accounts | 20:09 |
| bigcalm | And how real is it? | 20:11 |
| AlanBell | really quite real | 20:11 |
| AlanBell | someone was using it on windows and got their box hacked and lost 25k bitcoins | 20:12 |
| AlanBell | someone else just lost 500k bitcoins somehow, hackers sold them for money and crashed the market | 20:12 |
| AlanBell | and they were at $17 per bitcoin, so 'worth' $8,500,000 at the start of the dump | 20:13 |
| gord | yeah thats the problem with bitcoins, its like storing all your money under your bed | 20:13 |
| Core_UK | whats the Mt gox about? | 20:15 |
| gord | wonder if you could use amazon to mine bitcoins, if it was profitable i mean | 20:15 |
| AlanBell | it is, it is like cash, you don't *want* loads of the stuff hanging about, anything more than about a hundred in your wallet gets uncomfortable | 20:15 |
| Core_UK | I went to their website and it seems all thats on there twitter feed is compromised accounts | 20:16 |
| AlanBell | Core_UK: it is a market where you can trade bitcoins for other currency | 20:16 |
| dogmatic69_ | hey all | 20:17 |
| * dogmatic69_ is fighting with mysql replication | 20:17 | |
| czajkowski | gord: on the plus side we have decent tea over there | 20:18 |
| gord | czajkowski, and they speak the same language! big plus | 20:21 |
| czajkowski | indeed | 20:24 |
| czajkowski | gord: are you g@caonnica.c? | 20:24 |
| dogmatic69_ | does anyone know how to add a new database to replication? | 20:28 |
| ali1234 | AlanBell: the $1.2m dump was every coin on mtgox. hackers got the whole database and now they leaked it too | 20:28 |
| dogmatic69_ | like master has a,b,c replicate and then add d it should replicate also | 20:28 |
| ali1234 | the best part is that some hacker group actually posted a week ago that they could do this | 20:28 |
| dogmatic69_ | currently there is no db set for replication, eg all? | 20:28 |
| AlanBell | ali1234: ooh, that is bad | 20:29 |
| ali1234 | they got the password hashes too | 20:30 |
| gord | czajkowski, gord.allott@canonical.com | 20:33 |
| czajkowski | gord: you've mail | 20:35 |
| gord | czajkowski, thank you very much :) | 20:36 |
| czajkowski | tea++ | 20:36 |
| gord | i'm always amazed at what people will pay for on amazon, £200+ for a bin! | 20:39 |
| gaz_ | hello | 20:52 |
| Neoti_Laptop | hi all whats the command to reset gmone to how it looks when you first install ubuntu in ubuntu clasic mode | 20:53 |
| Neoti_Laptop | ? | 20:53 |
| DJones | !panels | Neoti_Laptop I'm nopt sure if the links in this still work, but sounds like what you need | 20:58 |
| lubotu3 | Neoti_Laptop I'm nopt sure if the links in this still work, but sounds like what you need: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » | 20:58 |
| Neoti_Laptop | thanks that worked | 20:59 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 21:09 |
| brobostigon | evening MooDoo :) | 21:11 |
| MooDoo | :) | 21:12 |
| dogmatic69_ | where can i get more info on dates in bash? like date +%Y%m%d | 21:54 |
| dogmatic69_ | i want to have hour and minute also | 21:54 |
| shauno | dogmatic69_: man 3 strftime | 21:56 |
| shauno | I think most of them are in man date too, but strftime is where they all come from in the first place | 21:57 |
| dogmatic69_ | thanks | 21:58 |
| Catbuskris_ | does anyone know how i can find out what my microphone is called by my computer? i.e. it's something of the form /dev/spd1 or whatnot | 22:04 |
| jools__ | 'vnin | 22:18 |
| brobostigon | good night, sleep well everyone. | 22:25 |
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