[00:00] <safiyyah> okay so it has been stuck at 5% for what seems to feel like 10 minutes to me
[00:03] <safiyyah> okay so am going to bed, you will find me here tomorrow morning
[00:03] <safiyyah> with the same issues
[00:03] <safiyyah> am tired and grumpy
[00:03] <safiyyah> i just want a warm pillow now
[00:04] <safiyyah> thank you guys as always
[00:04] <zaahir> Bonne nuit à tous, salut ! ليل سعيد السلام عليكم Good night every body !
[00:13] <safiyyah> so Azelphur it turns out you are right
[00:13] <Azelphur> I am?
[00:13] <safiyyah> I am back in the system
[00:14] <Azelphur> yay \o/
[00:14] <safiyyah> lol
[00:14] <safiyyah> I think I will back everything up and make the live disks right now
[00:14] <Azelphur> now about that anything you was going to do for me...
[00:14] <Azelphur> jk :p
[00:14] <safiyyah> no bed for me
[00:14] <safiyyah> rofl
[00:14] <Azelphur> yea, fsck found an issue and fixed it, something is definitely dodgy
[00:14] <Azelphur> a backup sounds like a good idea
[00:14] <safiyyah> yeah am going to stay up and do it
[00:15] <Azelphur> :)
[00:15] <safiyyah> I will also make the iso Cd for the manufacturer and for natty
[00:15] <safiyyah> i am worried anytime I will get a rubbish boot up again
[00:16] <Azelphur> safiyyah: I had a problem like this with a PC I was selling and the buyer was arriving in 30 minutes to pick it up
[00:16] <Azelphur> nerve racking xD
[00:16] <safiyyah> rofl
[00:16] <safiyyah> fsck helped you?
[00:16] <safiyyah> rofl
[00:16] <Azelphur> nah, it turned out to be Ubuntu trying to raid with drives that wasn't there
[00:16] <Azelphur> and it kept messing things up
[00:16] <Azelphur> stupid dmraid
[00:17] <safiyyah> how did you figure that out?
[00:19] <Azelphur> I figured it out after, it used to be my PC so I realized what it was up to
[00:19] <safiyyah> Unetbootin is stuck again!
[00:20] <penguin42> safiyyah: Any errors in dmesg?
[00:20] <safiyyah> ooops spoke too soon
[00:20] <safiyyah> it finished
[00:20] <safiyyah> okay live USB for natty done!
[00:20] <safiyyah> pulling out external hard drive
[00:20] <safiyyah> lol
[00:29] <Azelphur> \o/
[00:38] <safiyyah> lol I have done my live disks , i am doing a fresh download of lucid to make a new live disk
[00:38] <safiyyah> hopefully if anything dies again, I am prepared
[00:38] <hamitron> :)
[00:46] <Azelphur> safiyyah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p73PZIDQuA
[00:46] <Azelphur> couldn't resist :p
[00:52] <safiyyah> I need help with the samsung tool iso -when i try to burn an image, when i select it it goes into a random folder instead and when i use start up disk tool same thing
[00:52] <Azelphur> when you select what?
[00:52] <safiyyah> lol Azelphur indeed I was not prepared
[00:53] <Azelphur> xD
[00:54] <safiyyah> i downloaded the samsung hdd tool, CD version. It's a zip file, so I extracted it. its whatever.iso so when I try to burn an image of it, when I select it from brasero, it randomly goes into a different folder altogether (note I just burt an image of natty with no issues)
[00:54] <safiyyah> same thing when I use the start up disk tool (note I just made a live USB from start up disk tool no issue)
[00:56] <Azelphur> safiyyah: extract the iso from the zip file
[00:56] <Azelphur> right click on the iso, write to disc
[00:57] <safiyyah> will that still burn an image?
[00:58] <safiyyah> because that does work
[00:58] <safiyyah> but I was worried it would be faulty
[00:59] <safiyyah> Azelphur,
[01:00] <Azelphur> safiyyah: that will just burn an image
[01:01] <safiyyah> okay off we go!
[01:21] <safiyyah> Azelphur,  Goodnight - finished everything, surprise the backup ran faster than expected, got all the disks done, so hopefully I am not in for a rude shock. I will run the samsung tool tomorrow though (even if it doesn't die again), it will be interesting to see the report
[01:21] <Azelphur> safiyyah: yea, I think that samsung tool wipes your hdd
[01:21] <Azelphur> so make sure your backups are good
[01:22] <safiyyah> well the data backup is good, already checked, I will have to test the live disks for errors
[01:23] <safiyyah> but it won't be tonight lol! the window of opportunity was the reason i stayed up
[01:23] <safiyyah> I will be the one crying tomorrow morning when the kids get up
[01:23] <safiyyah> lol
[01:23] <safiyyah> night night
[01:23] <Azelphur> :)
[02:52] <ibroadfo> hi, is there a unity-approved way to get gmail notifications in my systray?
[08:03] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Andy Loughran] Choosing a CMS - http://zrmt.com/2011/06/16/choosing-a-cms/
[08:03] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Andy Loughran] Birmigham and Solihull Rugby [Sponsorship Opportunity] - http://zrmt.com/2011/06/17/birmigham-and-solihull-rugby-sponsorship-opportunity/
[09:19] <jibadeeha> do iphone 4 work well with ubuntu
[09:26] <AlanBell> morning all
[09:26] <AlanBell> jibadeeha: Apple are trying to make the PC redundant anyway so the iPhone should work without anything
[09:27] <AlanBell> but yeah, you can sync and copy stuff to it, charge it and tether to it
[09:27] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: doesn't it depend on itunes for installing new apps?
[09:27] <AlanBell> MartijnVdS: not any more apparently, they are going to stop shipping them bricked
[09:27] <MartijnVdS> Good thing I have android devices :P
[09:28] <AlanBell> me too
[09:34] <jibadeeha> AlanBell, i was toying with the idea of getting one but think i will stick to android based phone as i love all the integration with gmail, etc
[09:56] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:56] <czajkowski> AlanBell: any idea where one can get an assus with ubuntu being sold now ?
[10:07] <danfish> morning
[10:07] <danfish> I really need to learn some relaxation techniques - I cannot shut my brain off at night to allow me to sleep :(
[10:10] <MartijnVdS> danfish: Try a "shutdown ritual" -- walk around the house turning off all the lights, brush your teeth, etc. That should help prepare your mind for sleep.
[10:10] <MartijnVdS> danfish: also, stop staring into a light (i.e. your monitor) some time before sleep
[10:12] <popey> czajkowski: dont think they're available yet
[10:16] <danfish> MartijnVdS: that's good advice. I used to read before bed which used to help - I think I need to restart (?maybe time to buy a kindle)
[10:37] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:45] <AlanBell> morning czajkowski, no idea, don't think they are out
[10:45] <AlanBell> czajkowski: trouble with the mini-9?
[10:45] <czajkowski> nope
[10:45] <czajkowski> just curious
[10:46] <brobostigon> http://www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/cross-stitch-for-nerds-12-e1308336745909.jpg
[10:47] <AlanBell> nice
[10:47] <AlanBell> there is lots of stuff like that on etsy
[10:48] <MartijnVdS> etsy eft? :P
[10:48] <AlanBell> http://www.etsy.com
[10:48] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: I'm trying to get my mother to sell stuff on etsy, she was telling me how much she had been knitting last year (A LOT)
[10:48] <AlanBell> maco does stuff there, not sure it is geeky though
[10:49] <AlanBell> http://www.etsy.com/shop/SimplyMaco
[10:49] <brobostigon> it certainly hit my nerdy/geeky bone.
[10:50] <AlanBell> http://www.neatorama.com/2011/03/09/30-great-geeky-cross-stitches/
[10:51] <AlanBell> quite impressed by the QR code
[10:52] <AlanBell> if my phone hadn't been stolen by Angry Birds adicts I would see if it works
[11:04] <popey> AlanBell: you recently did a new logo for the team...
[11:04] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk <- that should use it
[11:05] <AlanBell> it probably should, I did spend a little time trying to do a square version
[11:34] <brobostigon> ubuntu publicity, for 2 seconds, on bbc click, inclusive of ubuntu logo.
[11:41] <popey> heh
[11:41] <popey> Blipverts
[11:41] <brobostigon> yes.
[12:22] <penguin42> that's an annoying bug - the window manager from gdm surviving through to the session and screwing it up
[13:03] <hackersrus> Afternoons :)
[13:05] <hackersrus> Just downloaded/upgraded to the new Ubuntu :) using my Samsung Galaxy for the internet was very quick and simple .. got to love the 3 network! ;P
[13:05] <hackersrus> Loving the new GUI side menu very smart ;)
[13:05] <hackersrus> <-- ^aDaM btw... IRC seems to be picking my hostname up as default.
[13:06] <^aDaM> :-}
[13:44] <MattJ> What IRC client are you using?
[14:43] <penguin42> why can't I find the accounts dialog on pidgin any more?
[14:47] <suprengr> penguin42, which Ubuntu?
[14:47] <penguin42> suprengr: Natty
[14:47]  * penguin42 wonders if it might have hung off a panel icon that's no longer visible
[14:48] <suprengr> penguin42, no menus when you hover over "panel" at top of screen?
[14:48] <suprengr> [normal menu set be there
[14:49] <suprengr> [aghh me harties!]
[14:51] <penguin42> suprengr: Yeh the menu set is there but I don't see an option for account settings - I could swear it used to be there somewhere
[14:54] <suprengr> penguin42, ditto! nomenu option gives you "accounts"or "manage accounts" ?  if nothing there - why not try the "Chat" option from System Settings or the drop down from panel  icon a.k.a. "Me Menu"
[14:55] <penguin42> suprengr: They seem to trigger empathy, for which I have no empathy
[14:55] <suprengr> ...or from the mail icon
[14:55] <ali1234> penguin42: ctrl-a
[14:55] <ali1234> on buddy list
[14:55] <penguin42> ali1234: Ah! Obvious!
[14:55] <ali1234> penguin42: it's obvious if you can still see the menu
[14:55] <suprengr> ;)
[14:56] <ali1234> i suggest you turn off global menu
[14:56] <penguin42> ali1234: Where does the menu appear for you? On the menu bar itself?
[14:56] <ali1234> for me the menu appears exactly where it has always appeared
[14:56] <ali1234> because i have disabled global menu
[14:57] <penguin42> ali1234: Except I can't remember where that was - hence the question
[14:57] <ali1234> global menu messes up many apps and is just unneccessarily confusing
[14:57] <ali1234> it appears between "buddies" and "tools"
[14:58] <penguin42> oh that's the problem - it's a menu off the buddy list - but I'm using sloppy focus so it was switching away from it's menu
[14:58] <ali1234> yeah
[14:58] <apw> Pendulum, have you tried F10 to open the menu in the focus'd window
[14:58]  * suprengr bows to ali1234 
[14:58] <apw> penguin42, ^^
[14:58] <ali1234> and there's no way to tell which window the global menu is associated
[14:58] <apw> not that thats a solution of course, but global menu doesn't work at all well with sloppy focus
[14:59] <ali1234> basically global menu is a horrible idea that breaks in so many ways it should just be removed
[14:59] <ali1234> it shouldn't even be an option
[14:59] <apw> it works pretty well with click-to-focus ... other than that its a fail
[14:59] <ali1234> that's how bad it is
[14:59] <ali1234> no, it does not even work with click to focus
[14:59] <ali1234> the same problem that happens with follow-mouse can happen with clicking if you click in the wrong place, which is easy enough to do, and extremely irritating
[14:59] <apw> ok its workable in my opinion in click-to-focus, i just hate that mode
[15:00] <ali1234> it's not even workable because you have to always check which window is focused before you click the menu
[15:00] <penguin42> apw: Yeh F10 works
[15:00] <ali1234> you end up having to mouse all over the screen instead of just going directly to the menu you want
[15:00] <apw> penguin42, a hateful work around
[15:00] <penguin42> apw: Indeed
[15:01] <apw> ali1234, you don't need to convince me, i hate it too
[15:01] <apw> and it hates me
[15:02] <ali1234> yeah well i'm hoping if i rant enough about it it might actually get fixed (where fixed = removed forever)
[15:03] <apw> it would be more productive to offer patches to add a UI to disable it, then i could use it to ... disable it
[15:03] <ali1234> it needs to be disabled in several places
[15:04] <ali1234> you have to disable it for gnome apps and firefox independently, in different ways
[15:04] <ali1234> but a UI to disable it is not enough
[15:04] <apw> i thought there was an env variable you could turn on in the X session ... but ok
[15:04] <ali1234> yeah that variable only covers gnome apps afaik
[15:04] <ali1234> in firefox it's done by an extension that you have to disable
[15:06] <ali1234> the really fun thing about global menus
[15:06] <ali1234> is that if you run a program in a nested x server with no WM
[15:06] <ali1234> it won't have a menu at all
[15:06] <ali1234> that is, global menu is implemented in a way such that it activates by default even if there is nothing to "catch" the menu
[15:06] <ali1234> so the menu just goes up in smoke and the program becomes unusable
[15:06] <apw> ali1234, nice is there a bug about that?
[15:07] <ali1234> i think i reported it, yeah
[15:07] <ali1234> hang on
[15:08] <ali1234> bug 774586
[15:08] <Kirior> spadaj15
[15:09] <Kirior> hi all got a problem, dowloaded a chromium by hexx OS, put id on a usb stick and now i cannot boot it up, dunno what to do i just wanted to try this out but seems inmpossible
[15:10] <ali1234> Kirior: firstly you are not missing anything
[15:10] <Myrtti> a whatwhat by whom?
[15:10] <ali1234> Myrtti: chrome OS
[15:10] <dwatkins> it's hexxeh
[15:10] <ali1234> google don't package it, some guy called hexx does unnofficial images
[15:10] <Kirior> http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/
[15:10] <Myrtti> rrright
[15:10] <dwatkins> There are instructions for putting the image onto USB, don't just copy the file
[15:11] <Kirior> i followed them to the letter
[15:11] <ali1234> so what happens when you try to boot it?
[15:11] <Kirior> i guess it it my bios as i dont have a USB boot option
[15:11] <ali1234> could be, or it could be disabled
[15:11] <Kirior> i can see my external hard drive but not my SD card
[15:11] <ali1234> if it is new enough to run chrome os it is new enough to boot from usb
[15:11] <dwatkins> Do you have a one-time 'select thing to boot from' option, Kirior?
[15:11] <ali1234> ah, many bios cannot boot from SD card
[15:11] <dwatkins> Usually F12.
[15:12] <Kirior> i have f12 option
[15:12] <daubers> lo
[15:12] <ali1234> is it a usb sd card reader?
[15:12] <ali1234> or is it a sd slot on a laptop?
[15:12] <Kirior> yes
[15:12] <Kirior> first
[15:12] <ali1234> ok, well, they are not always bootable
[15:12] <Kirior> usb micro sd card reader to be precise
[15:13] <dwatkins> So it's essentially a USB pendrive.
[15:13] <Kirior> ok micro sd adapter in a sd card slot should work?
[15:13] <ali1234> well, it might. it all depends on your bios
[15:13] <ali1234> your easiest thing is going to be to go and buy a real usb pendrive
[15:14] <ali1234> also try different usb ports
[15:14] <ali1234> sometimes not all of them can be accessed by the bios
[15:14] <Kirior> will do be back in few mins i will try what u said :)
[15:14] <ali1234> but like i said, you're not missing anything. chrome os is quite boring.
[15:15] <Kirior> i just want to have a quick look :P i know it will/might be but since i have option to try why not :)
[15:15] <ali1234> you can get the same effect by installing chrome on any os and then pretending the whole os doesn't exist
[15:15] <Kirior> anyhow brb
[15:15] <Kirior> i like my firefox :)
[15:38] <dwatkins> Why use ChromeOS, then? ;)
[17:12] <hackersrus> Evenings all :)
[18:39] <brobostigon> http://edos.debian.net/weather/ a useful idea, i like.
[18:40] <penguin42> oh yes that's neat
[18:41] <brobostigon> especially as i run sid, next to ubuntu.
[18:42] <penguin42> sid can be a bit random
[18:42] <penguin42> brobostigon: I used to run sid prior to ubuntu
[18:42]  * penguin42 still remembers the time one of the scripts swapped /etc/passwd's uid and gid field
[18:43] <brobostigon> penguin42: it has been fairly good with me, upto now.
[18:43] <brobostigon> lol
[18:43] <brobostigon> :(
[18:45] <brobostigon> penguin42: thats not good.
[18:45] <penguin42> brobostigon: Oh there were a few like that - just enough to keep you on your toes; don't want to make it feel stable!
[18:46] <brobostigon> penguin42: the worst i have hd upto now,is when getting some packages from experimental wirth some apt-pinnig, and it causing huge package inconsistencies.
[18:52] <penguin42> there's no fun in using sid unless you pretty much have to glue the installation back together with duct tape and chewing gum before trying to read your mail each day
[18:53] <brobostigon> yeah, sometimes.
[19:35] <kvarley> Not really Ubuntu related, however - can anybody tell why my gtk notebook won't appear in this script? http://paste.ubuntu.com/629497/
[19:37] <penguin42> kvarley: Not sure, but have you tried putting the notebook.show() after the add?
[19:37] <kvarley> penguin42: Yup, doesn't do anything =/ There's not much documentation either for the notebook widget
[19:48] <gord> kvarley, add a page to the notebook
[19:48] <kvarley> gord: Oh yeah...That'd help...Doh! Thank you =)
[20:03] <czajkowski> gord: looking forward to dublin ?
[20:04] <czajkowski> any answer other than yes will offend me :)
[20:06] <AlanBell> Azelphur: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2671441
[20:09] <gord> czajkowski, considering i can get home on the friday at a sane time, yup somewhat :) as long as the weather is nice
[20:09] <AlanBell> some people have a *lot* of money in bitcoin accounts
[20:11] <bigcalm> And how real is it?
[20:11] <AlanBell> really quite real
[20:12] <AlanBell> someone was using it on windows and got their box hacked and lost 25k bitcoins
[20:12] <AlanBell> someone else just lost 500k bitcoins somehow, hackers sold them for money and crashed the market
[20:13] <AlanBell> and they were at $17 per bitcoin, so 'worth' $8,500,000 at the start of the dump
[20:13] <gord> yeah thats the problem with bitcoins, its like storing all your money under your bed
[20:15] <Core_UK> whats the Mt gox about?
[20:15] <gord> wonder if you could use amazon to mine bitcoins, if it was profitable i mean
[20:15] <AlanBell> it is, it is like cash, you don't *want* loads of the stuff hanging about, anything more than about a hundred in your wallet gets uncomfortable
[20:16] <Core_UK> I went to their website and it seems all thats on there twitter feed is compromised accounts
[20:16] <AlanBell> Core_UK: it is a market where you can trade bitcoins for other currency
[20:17] <dogmatic69_> hey all
[20:17]  * dogmatic69_ is fighting with mysql replication
[20:18] <czajkowski> gord: on the plus side we have decent tea over there
[20:21] <gord> czajkowski, and they speak the same language! big plus
[20:24] <czajkowski> indeed
[20:24] <czajkowski> gord: are you g@caonnica.c?
[20:28] <dogmatic69_> does anyone know how to add a new database to replication?
[20:28] <ali1234> AlanBell: the $1.2m dump was every coin on mtgox. hackers got the whole database and now they leaked it too
[20:28] <dogmatic69_> like master has a,b,c replicate and then add d it should replicate also
[20:28] <ali1234> the best part is that some hacker group actually posted a week ago that they could do this
[20:28] <dogmatic69_> currently there is no db set for replication, eg all?
[20:29] <AlanBell> ali1234: ooh, that is bad
[20:30] <ali1234> they got the password hashes too
[20:33] <gord> czajkowski, gord.allott@canonical.com
[20:35] <czajkowski> gord: you've mail
[20:36] <gord> czajkowski, thank you very much :)
[20:36] <czajkowski> tea++
[20:39] <gord> i'm always amazed at what people will pay for on amazon, £200+ for a bin!
[20:52] <gaz_> hello
[20:53] <Neoti_Laptop> hi all whats the command to reset gmone to how it looks when you first install ubuntu in ubuntu clasic mode
[20:53] <Neoti_Laptop> ?
[20:58] <DJones> !panels | Neoti_Laptop I'm nopt sure if the links in this still work, but sounds like what you need
[20:59] <Neoti_Laptop> thanks that worked
[21:09] <MooDoo> hello all
[21:11] <brobostigon> evening MooDoo :)
[21:12] <MooDoo> :)
[21:54] <dogmatic69_> where can i get more info on dates in bash? like date +%Y%m%d
[21:54] <dogmatic69_> i want to have hour and minute also
[21:56] <shauno> dogmatic69_: man 3 strftime
[21:57] <shauno> I think most of them are in man date too, but strftime is where they all come from in the first place
[21:58] <dogmatic69_> thanks
[22:04] <Catbuskris_> does anyone know how i can find out what my microphone is called by my computer?  i.e. it's something of the form /dev/spd1 or whatnot
[22:18] <jools__> 'vnin
[22:25] <brobostigon> good night, sleep well everyone.