[00:00] okay so it has been stuck at 5% for what seems to feel like 10 minutes to me [00:03] okay so am going to bed, you will find me here tomorrow morning [00:03] with the same issues [00:03] am tired and grumpy [00:03] i just want a warm pillow now [00:04] thank you guys as always [00:04] Bonne nuit à tous, salut ! ليل سعيد السلام عليكم Good night every body ! [00:13] so Azelphur it turns out you are right [00:13] I am? [00:13] I am back in the system [00:14] yay \o/ [00:14] lol [00:14] I think I will back everything up and make the live disks right now [00:14] now about that anything you was going to do for me... [00:14] jk :p [00:14] no bed for me [00:14] rofl [00:14] yea, fsck found an issue and fixed it, something is definitely dodgy [00:14] a backup sounds like a good idea [00:14] yeah am going to stay up and do it [00:15] :) [00:15] I will also make the iso Cd for the manufacturer and for natty [00:15] i am worried anytime I will get a rubbish boot up again [00:16] safiyyah: I had a problem like this with a PC I was selling and the buyer was arriving in 30 minutes to pick it up [00:16] nerve racking xD [00:16] rofl [00:16] fsck helped you? [00:16] rofl [00:16] nah, it turned out to be Ubuntu trying to raid with drives that wasn't there [00:16] and it kept messing things up [00:16] stupid dmraid [00:17] how did you figure that out? [00:19] I figured it out after, it used to be my PC so I realized what it was up to [00:19] Unetbootin is stuck again! [00:20] safiyyah: Any errors in dmesg? [00:20] ooops spoke too soon [00:20] it finished [00:20] okay live USB for natty done! [00:20] pulling out external hard drive [00:20] lol [00:29] \o/ [00:38] lol I have done my live disks , i am doing a fresh download of lucid to make a new live disk [00:38] hopefully if anything dies again, I am prepared [00:38] :) [00:46] safiyyah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p73PZIDQuA [00:46] couldn't resist :p [00:52] I need help with the samsung tool iso -when i try to burn an image, when i select it it goes into a random folder instead and when i use start up disk tool same thing [00:52] when you select what? [00:52] lol Azelphur indeed I was not prepared [00:53] xD [00:54] i downloaded the samsung hdd tool, CD version. It's a zip file, so I extracted it. its whatever.iso so when I try to burn an image of it, when I select it from brasero, it randomly goes into a different folder altogether (note I just burt an image of natty with no issues) [00:54] same thing when I use the start up disk tool (note I just made a live USB from start up disk tool no issue) [00:56] safiyyah: extract the iso from the zip file [00:56] right click on the iso, write to disc [00:57] will that still burn an image? [00:58] because that does work [00:58] but I was worried it would be faulty [00:59] Azelphur, [01:00] safiyyah: that will just burn an image [01:01] okay off we go! [01:21] Azelphur, Goodnight - finished everything, surprise the backup ran faster than expected, got all the disks done, so hopefully I am not in for a rude shock. I will run the samsung tool tomorrow though (even if it doesn't die again), it will be interesting to see the report [01:21] safiyyah: yea, I think that samsung tool wipes your hdd [01:21] so make sure your backups are good [01:22] well the data backup is good, already checked, I will have to test the live disks for errors [01:23] but it won't be tonight lol! the window of opportunity was the reason i stayed up [01:23] I will be the one crying tomorrow morning when the kids get up [01:23] lol [01:23] night night [01:23] :) [02:52] hi, is there a unity-approved way to get gmail notifications in my systray? [08:03] [Andy Loughran] Choosing a CMS - http://zrmt.com/2011/06/16/choosing-a-cms/ [08:03] [Andy Loughran] Birmigham and Solihull Rugby [Sponsorship Opportunity] - http://zrmt.com/2011/06/17/birmigham-and-solihull-rugby-sponsorship-opportunity/ [09:19] do iphone 4 work well with ubuntu [09:26] morning all [09:26] jibadeeha: Apple are trying to make the PC redundant anyway so the iPhone should work without anything [09:27] but yeah, you can sync and copy stuff to it, charge it and tether to it [09:27] AlanBell: doesn't it depend on itunes for installing new apps? [09:27] MartijnVdS: not any more apparently, they are going to stop shipping them bricked [09:27] Good thing I have android devices :P [09:28] me too [09:34] AlanBell, i was toying with the idea of getting one but think i will stick to android based phone as i love all the integration with gmail, etc [09:56] aloha [09:56] AlanBell: any idea where one can get an assus with ubuntu being sold now ? === Guest96732 is now known as issyl0 [10:07] morning [10:07] I really need to learn some relaxation techniques - I cannot shut my brain off at night to allow me to sleep :( [10:10] danfish: Try a "shutdown ritual" -- walk around the house turning off all the lights, brush your teeth, etc. That should help prepare your mind for sleep. [10:10] danfish: also, stop staring into a light (i.e. your monitor) some time before sleep [10:12] czajkowski: dont think they're available yet [10:16] MartijnVdS: that's good advice. I used to read before bed which used to help - I think I need to restart (?maybe time to buy a kindle) [10:37] good morning everyone. [10:45] morning czajkowski, no idea, don't think they are out [10:45] czajkowski: trouble with the mini-9? [10:45] nope [10:45] just curious [10:46] http://www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/cross-stitch-for-nerds-12-e1308336745909.jpg [10:47] nice [10:47] there is lots of stuff like that on etsy [10:48] etsy eft? :P [10:48] http://www.etsy.com [10:48] AlanBell: I'm trying to get my mother to sell stuff on etsy, she was telling me how much she had been knitting last year (A LOT) [10:48] maco does stuff there, not sure it is geeky though [10:49] http://www.etsy.com/shop/SimplyMaco [10:49] it certainly hit my nerdy/geeky bone. [10:50] http://www.neatorama.com/2011/03/09/30-great-geeky-cross-stitches/ [10:51] quite impressed by the QR code [10:52] if my phone hadn't been stolen by Angry Birds adicts I would see if it works [11:04] AlanBell: you recently did a new logo for the team... [11:04] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk <- that should use it [11:05] it probably should, I did spend a little time trying to do a square version [11:34] ubuntu publicity, for 2 seconds, on bbc click, inclusive of ubuntu logo. [11:41] heh [11:41] Blipverts [11:41] yes. [12:22] that's an annoying bug - the window manager from gdm surviving through to the session and screwing it up [13:03] Afternoons :) [13:05] Just downloaded/upgraded to the new Ubuntu :) using my Samsung Galaxy for the internet was very quick and simple .. got to love the 3 network! ;P [13:05] Loving the new GUI side menu very smart ;) [13:05] <-- ^aDaM btw... IRC seems to be picking my hostname up as default. === hackersrus is now known as ^aDaM [13:06] <^aDaM> :-} [13:44] What IRC client are you using? [14:43] why can't I find the accounts dialog on pidgin any more? [14:47] penguin42, which Ubuntu? [14:47] suprengr: Natty [14:47] * penguin42 wonders if it might have hung off a panel icon that's no longer visible [14:48] penguin42, no menus when you hover over "panel" at top of screen? [14:48] [normal menu set be there [14:49] [aghh me harties!] [14:51] suprengr: Yeh the menu set is there but I don't see an option for account settings - I could swear it used to be there somewhere [14:54] penguin42, ditto! nomenu option gives you "accounts"or "manage accounts" ? if nothing there - why not try the "Chat" option from System Settings or the drop down from panel icon a.k.a. "Me Menu" [14:55] suprengr: They seem to trigger empathy, for which I have no empathy [14:55] ...or from the mail icon [14:55] penguin42: ctrl-a [14:55] on buddy list [14:55] ali1234: Ah! Obvious! [14:55] penguin42: it's obvious if you can still see the menu [14:55] ;) [14:56] i suggest you turn off global menu [14:56] ali1234: Where does the menu appear for you? On the menu bar itself? [14:56] for me the menu appears exactly where it has always appeared [14:56] because i have disabled global menu [14:57] ali1234: Except I can't remember where that was - hence the question [14:57] global menu messes up many apps and is just unneccessarily confusing [14:57] it appears between "buddies" and "tools" [14:58] oh that's the problem - it's a menu off the buddy list - but I'm using sloppy focus so it was switching away from it's menu [14:58] yeah [14:58] Pendulum, have you tried F10 to open the menu in the focus'd window [14:58] * suprengr bows to ali1234 [14:58] penguin42, ^^ [14:58] and there's no way to tell which window the global menu is associated [14:58] not that thats a solution of course, but global menu doesn't work at all well with sloppy focus [14:59] basically global menu is a horrible idea that breaks in so many ways it should just be removed [14:59] it shouldn't even be an option [14:59] it works pretty well with click-to-focus ... other than that its a fail [14:59] that's how bad it is [14:59] no, it does not even work with click to focus [14:59] the same problem that happens with follow-mouse can happen with clicking if you click in the wrong place, which is easy enough to do, and extremely irritating [14:59] ok its workable in my opinion in click-to-focus, i just hate that mode [15:00] it's not even workable because you have to always check which window is focused before you click the menu [15:00] apw: Yeh F10 works [15:00] you end up having to mouse all over the screen instead of just going directly to the menu you want [15:00] penguin42, a hateful work around [15:00] apw: Indeed [15:01] ali1234, you don't need to convince me, i hate it too [15:01] and it hates me [15:02] yeah well i'm hoping if i rant enough about it it might actually get fixed (where fixed = removed forever) [15:03] it would be more productive to offer patches to add a UI to disable it, then i could use it to ... disable it [15:03] it needs to be disabled in several places [15:04] you have to disable it for gnome apps and firefox independently, in different ways [15:04] but a UI to disable it is not enough [15:04] i thought there was an env variable you could turn on in the X session ... but ok [15:04] yeah that variable only covers gnome apps afaik [15:04] in firefox it's done by an extension that you have to disable [15:06] the really fun thing about global menus [15:06] is that if you run a program in a nested x server with no WM [15:06] it won't have a menu at all [15:06] that is, global menu is implemented in a way such that it activates by default even if there is nothing to "catch" the menu [15:06] so the menu just goes up in smoke and the program becomes unusable [15:06] ali1234, nice is there a bug about that? [15:07] i think i reported it, yeah [15:07] hang on [15:08] bug 774586 [15:08] spadaj15 [15:08] Launchpad bug 774586 in appmenu-gtk (Ubuntu) "Applications have no menu when run in a nested X session" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774586 [15:09] hi all got a problem, dowloaded a chromium by hexx OS, put id on a usb stick and now i cannot boot it up, dunno what to do i just wanted to try this out but seems inmpossible [15:10] Kirior: firstly you are not missing anything [15:10] a whatwhat by whom? [15:10] Myrtti: chrome OS [15:10] it's hexxeh [15:10] google don't package it, some guy called hexx does unnofficial images [15:10] http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/ [15:10] rrright [15:10] There are instructions for putting the image onto USB, don't just copy the file [15:11] i followed them to the letter [15:11] so what happens when you try to boot it? [15:11] i guess it it my bios as i dont have a USB boot option [15:11] could be, or it could be disabled [15:11] i can see my external hard drive but not my SD card [15:11] if it is new enough to run chrome os it is new enough to boot from usb [15:11] Do you have a one-time 'select thing to boot from' option, Kirior? [15:11] ah, many bios cannot boot from SD card [15:11] Usually F12. [15:12] i have f12 option [15:12] lo [15:12] is it a usb sd card reader? [15:12] or is it a sd slot on a laptop? [15:12] yes [15:12] first [15:12] ok, well, they are not always bootable [15:12] usb micro sd card reader to be precise [15:13] So it's essentially a USB pendrive. [15:13] ok micro sd adapter in a sd card slot should work? [15:13] well, it might. it all depends on your bios [15:13] your easiest thing is going to be to go and buy a real usb pendrive [15:14] also try different usb ports [15:14] sometimes not all of them can be accessed by the bios [15:14] will do be back in few mins i will try what u said :) [15:14] but like i said, you're not missing anything. chrome os is quite boring. [15:15] i just want to have a quick look :P i know it will/might be but since i have option to try why not :) [15:15] you can get the same effect by installing chrome on any os and then pretending the whole os doesn't exist [15:15] anyhow brb [15:15] i like my firefox :) [15:38] Why use ChromeOS, then? ;) [17:12] Evenings all :) [18:39] http://edos.debian.net/weather/ a useful idea, i like. [18:40] oh yes that's neat [18:41] especially as i run sid, next to ubuntu. [18:42] sid can be a bit random [18:42] brobostigon: I used to run sid prior to ubuntu [18:42] * penguin42 still remembers the time one of the scripts swapped /etc/passwd's uid and gid field [18:43] penguin42: it has been fairly good with me, upto now. [18:43] lol [18:43] :( [18:45] penguin42: thats not good. [18:45] brobostigon: Oh there were a few like that - just enough to keep you on your toes; don't want to make it feel stable! [18:46] penguin42: the worst i have hd upto now,is when getting some packages from experimental wirth some apt-pinnig, and it causing huge package inconsistencies. [18:52] there's no fun in using sid unless you pretty much have to glue the installation back together with duct tape and chewing gum before trying to read your mail each day [18:53] yeah, sometimes. [19:35] Not really Ubuntu related, however - can anybody tell why my gtk notebook won't appear in this script? http://paste.ubuntu.com/629497/ [19:37] kvarley: Not sure, but have you tried putting the notebook.show() after the add? [19:37] penguin42: Yup, doesn't do anything =/ There's not much documentation either for the notebook widget [19:48] kvarley, add a page to the notebook [19:48] gord: Oh yeah...That'd help...Doh! Thank you =) [20:03] gord: looking forward to dublin ? [20:04] any answer other than yes will offend me :) [20:06] Azelphur: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2671441 [20:09] czajkowski, considering i can get home on the friday at a sane time, yup somewhat :) as long as the weather is nice [20:09] some people have a *lot* of money in bitcoin accounts [20:11] And how real is it? [20:11] really quite real [20:12] someone was using it on windows and got their box hacked and lost 25k bitcoins [20:12] someone else just lost 500k bitcoins somehow, hackers sold them for money and crashed the market [20:13] and they were at $17 per bitcoin, so 'worth' $8,500,000 at the start of the dump [20:13] yeah thats the problem with bitcoins, its like storing all your money under your bed [20:15] whats the Mt gox about? [20:15] wonder if you could use amazon to mine bitcoins, if it was profitable i mean [20:15] it is, it is like cash, you don't *want* loads of the stuff hanging about, anything more than about a hundred in your wallet gets uncomfortable [20:16] I went to their website and it seems all thats on there twitter feed is compromised accounts [20:16] Core_UK: it is a market where you can trade bitcoins for other currency [20:17] hey all [20:17] * dogmatic69_ is fighting with mysql replication [20:18] gord: on the plus side we have decent tea over there [20:21] czajkowski, and they speak the same language! big plus [20:24] indeed [20:24] gord: are you g@caonnica.c? [20:28] does anyone know how to add a new database to replication? [20:28] AlanBell: the $1.2m dump was every coin on mtgox. hackers got the whole database and now they leaked it too [20:28] like master has a,b,c replicate and then add d it should replicate also [20:28] the best part is that some hacker group actually posted a week ago that they could do this [20:28] currently there is no db set for replication, eg all? [20:29] ali1234: ooh, that is bad [20:30] they got the password hashes too [20:33] czajkowski, gord.allott@canonical.com [20:35] gord: you've mail [20:36] czajkowski, thank you very much :) [20:36] tea++ [20:39] i'm always amazed at what people will pay for on amazon, £200+ for a bin! [20:52] hello [20:53] hi all whats the command to reset gmone to how it looks when you first install ubuntu in ubuntu clasic mode [20:53] ? [20:58] !panels | Neoti_Laptop I'm nopt sure if the links in this still work, but sounds like what you need [20:58] Neoti_Laptop I'm nopt sure if the links in this still work, but sounds like what you need: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [20:59] thanks that worked [21:09] hello all [21:11] evening MooDoo :) [21:12] :) [21:54] where can i get more info on dates in bash? like date +%Y%m%d [21:54] i want to have hour and minute also [21:56] dogmatic69_: man 3 strftime [21:57] I think most of them are in man date too, but strftime is where they all come from in the first place [21:58] thanks [22:04] does anyone know how i can find out what my microphone is called by my computer? i.e. it's something of the form /dev/spd1 or whatnot [22:18] 'vnin [22:25] good night, sleep well everyone. === Sab is now known as Guest37010