[02:03] <tntc> Does the ubuntu one music player support anything besides .mp3?
[02:03] <tntc> I've only got mp3s, so I can't test, but an interested party is asking.
[02:04] <karni> tntc: Do you mean Ubuntu One Music for Android?
[02:04] <tntc> exactly.
[02:05] <karni> tntc: I think mp3 and ogg, although this just rings a bell, I'm not sure (and it's 3AM so I won't test this now)
[02:05] <karni> :)
[02:05] <tntc> hehe. fair enough :)
[02:05] <karni> tntc: Cool :)
[02:05] <tntc> I wish I had flacc to test it with. that's what he was asking about
[02:06] <karni> tntc: Aha.. That I can say for 99% sure, we don't support flacc.
[02:06] <tntc> I just tried Google Music, but IMO, ubuntuone is way better.
[02:06] <karni> tntc: Win! \o/ Thank you :)
[02:06] <tntc> :) Worth every penny I paid. I've got 3 x 20Gb packs
[02:06] <tntc> plus the mobile service
[02:06] <tntc> it's excellent!
[02:07] <karni> CardinalFang: lol, you just missed it! "03:06 < tntc> I just tried Google Music, but IMO, ubuntuone is way better."
[02:07] <tntc> XD
[02:07] <karni> CardinalFang: Do we support flacc?
[02:07] <CardinalFang> FLAC?  Hrm, maybe.
[02:07] <karni> tntc: Thanks man! We're happy to hear that :)
[02:07] <CardinalFang> Ogg/Flac should be scanned correctly.
[02:07] <karni> CardinalFang: tntc: :D
[02:08] <karni> tntc: You see, I shouldn't have been so sure (there goes the 1% chance of me being wrong ;) )
[02:08] <CardinalFang> FLAC on Android, hrm.  Probably.  It's all native codecs, so if phone supports it. ...
[02:08] <tntc> karni: More than happy to share it :) I keep hearing about all these cloud services popping up, but the Windows Live cloud is weird and only allows syncing of 5gb out of the 25gb, and I don't even want to touch the iCloud
[02:09] <karni> tntc: 5 out of 25? hahahah :D That sounds funny.
[02:09] <tntc> Ubuntu One 1) has an ubuntu client 2) Syncs anything I want 3) has a nice music app. Trifecta
[02:09] <tntc> karni: You can UPLOAD more to it, but you can actively sync it with mesh or something.
[02:09] <karni> tntc: Just you wait for more ;)
[02:09] <tntc> karni: I'll be a test monkey if you want :)
[02:09] <karni> tntc: I can't say more, but stay tuned :)
[02:10] <tntc> I will! I've actually converted all my machines to Ubuntu. I find myself missing too much in Windows 7.
[02:10] <karni> tntc: Who-hooo! Sweet! (I can't remember when I last used my Win7)
[02:11] <tntc> I have to use XP/7 for class and work sometimes, but for home use I'm completly hooked.
[02:11] <karni> dammit, django is so cooool! o_O :D
[02:12] <tntc> ooh, python!
[02:12] <karni> tntc: I know that pain. I hate when my college assigned stuff stricte for Windows.
[02:12] <karni> tntc: Ubuntu revolves around python. Ubuntu One as well :)
[02:12] <tntc> I'm taking an MIS class, and it's all MS Office.
[02:12] <karni> Yuck
[02:13] <tntc> Fortunately, last semester I took a Unix Systems programming course, and this fall my web dev course is likely to be in linux
[02:13] <tntc> LAMP stack, I think
[02:13] <karni> I'm just going through tutorial01 on django website and I'm having a braingasm.
[02:13] <karni> tntc: :)
[02:13] <tntc> Still, out of all the languages I've used, I like python the best. For my Java assignments, I often prototype in python first because it's so. much. easier.
[02:14] <tntc> he! I want to build a page using django. I haven't had the time lately.
[02:14] <karni> tntc: Tell me more. I'm Android developer.. xD
[02:14] <karni> tntc: And by that I mean.. I agreeeee!!!
[02:14] <tntc> karni: I wish there was full blown python for Android! The ASE is good, but full market support would be the best!
[02:14] <karni> tntc: Time you say. That's why I'm still up ant it's 3AM xD
[02:15] <tntc> karni: hehe. It's only 9pm here, but I'll be up for another 6 or 7 hours I bet.
[02:15] <karni> tntc: Man, if Android could run python apps.. Insane!
[02:15] <tntc> karni: well, ASE means it SORT OF can
[02:15] <karni> Right. Sort of - makes a difference :(
[02:15] <tntc> yeah.
[02:15] <tntc> Is there a Jython port for droid yet?
[02:15] <CardinalFang> karni, Django high-five.
[02:16] <karni> CardinalFang: Django high-five!
[02:16] <tntc> hehe
[02:16] <karni> tntc: *looks around* I have no idea. Jython is written in pure Java..
[02:17] <karni> tntc: Anyway, lemme play a moment with django and I'm outta here :)
[02:17] <tntc> k! good luck!
[02:17] <karni> tntc: Thanks! HAve a great evening!
[02:19] <tntc> you too!
[02:20] <tntc> Oh, on a side note, two features I would love from UbuntuOne: Web based player for music, and VIDEO support.
[02:20] <karni> I'm just learning dvorak, but Dvorak+Python+Django (I'm new to all three, apart from reading TONS of python for few months now) - is orgasmistic for my geek brain.
[02:20] <karni> tntc: Noted ;)
[02:20] <tntc> karni: :D
[02:21] <tntc> See, I can't do Dvorak. I don't spend enough time on machines I can customize like that. I tend to mold myself around the tool I'm using, rather than the other way around.
[02:21] <tntc> It means I'm really good with defaults.
[02:21] <tntc> I was so relieved when Ubuntu switched the music player to Banshee. <3
[02:22] <tntc> now all we need is chromium as the default browser, and I won't have to change anything to use ubuntu out of the box ;)
[02:22] <karni> tntc: I just added a layout - switching Dvorak/QWERTY is matter of a shortcut now :)
[02:22] <karni> tntc: Agreed! Chromium ftw
[02:22] <tntc> karni: on Ubuntu, sure! But I know all these crazy Mac/Windows people
[02:23] <karni> tntc: Well, not to mention you have to actually know dvorak :)
[02:23] <karni> tntc: Ah right. True.
[02:23] <tntc> karni: meh. I'd learn it.
[02:23] <karni> Yes, it's very pleasant to learn :)
[02:23] <tntc> I just don't /need/ to. If someone handed me a dvorak keyboard for work, i'd figure it out, but until then, I'll be on QWERTY
[02:24] <karni> Meh, I'm writing this in QWERTY (still 5x slower on dvorak)
[02:24] <tntc> meh. It gives me time to think :)
[02:24] <CardinalFang> tntc, groovy, python, scala, I think they all import some language-supporting libraries that make them really bulky to have on a tiny device.
[02:25] <karni> tntc: Coding so many hours daily brought me to conclusion I have to care about my palms and fingers. And qwerty is a silent killer.
[02:25] <CardinalFang> tntc, I tried with Clojure a while back.
[02:26] <tntc> CardinalFang: eh. a 1ghz CPU and 512MB of ram isn't enough to handle python?
[02:26] <CardinalFang> ... like, Android 1.5, G1 days.
[02:26] <CardinalFang> tntc, the RAM is the problem.
[02:26] <CardinalFang> tntc, but, I don't really know.  Go find out.  Come back and report.
[02:26]  * karni falls back to django
[02:27] <tntc> CardinalFang: well, like I said, ASE supports python, so the base language is there.
[02:28] <tntc> They have hooks into the regular android interfaces. I think it's just not complete yet.
[02:28] <tntc> It has been done before. PyS60 from Nokia
[02:29] <CardinalFang> But those aren't inside a JVM.  Add a layer.
[02:29] <CardinalFang> And I programmed on S60 Python quite a lot.
[02:30] <tntc> I suppose. Perhaps it's wishful thinking :)
[02:33] <tntc> I think even ASE/SL4A would be more than sufficient if it had more developer umph behind it
[02:34] <tntc> and a little bit of integration with the Android SDK
[02:38] <karni> omg doing this tutorial is like Christmas revisited, I love it! django automates everything
[02:39] <karni> (Not that I love Christmas, but referring to presents mainly brings happy memories ;P )
[02:46] <tntc> hehe
[02:52] <karni> Night!
[09:07] <pepok> hi
[09:07] <pepok> could anybody help?
[09:07] <pepok> i cannot start ubuntu one
[09:07] <pepok> I have account
[09:08] <pepok> but after upgrade to the last distribution is ubuntu1 not starting
[09:08] <pepok> not showing up
[09:40] <vinexas> hi
[09:40] <vinexas>  I need help with starting of ubuntu one
[09:40] <vinexas> it is not even showing after clicking ubuntu one from the menu
[09:41] <vinexas> I have upgradet to linux mnt 11.04
[09:41] <vinexas> after that I cannot start ubuntu one client on my PC