[08:28] Morning fellas === daker_ is now known as daker [11:26] Hello, can anyone help me with UEC? [11:34] hello, how long is a piece of string? [11:35] you may also like to see the topic. [11:37] fulc ^^ don't ask to ask, just ask. [11:37] alright :) [11:37] i want to install and enable xen on my server machines that dont support hardware virtualization, and UEC comes with KVM by default [11:39] just to make it clear, I have 3 machines (1 front-end and 2 nodes) and using UEC for private cloud computing [11:39] If I'm at the wrong place, please tell me where to go =] [11:42] you may have more luck with the eucalyptus doc or #eucalyptus [11:42] alright, thanks =] [12:54] hi [12:55] sorry im new on ubuntu .. the project is awsome but wat is a cloud ...ouffff! [13:16] haha [13:16] someone said oufffff [13:17] ugh..no luck at #eucalyptus [13:18] i wouldn't expect it [13:18] try googling xen with eucalyptus.. [13:19] i prefer cloudstack or openstack, but if you want to use euca thats totally your choice [13:23] well, not really mine...but my boss' ^_^ [13:23] i'm an intern and they gave me these old machines to install eucalyptus on [13:26] although, if these cloudstack and openstack are better (more compatible and easy to use), i might be allowed to try them out [13:27] if its commercial, you'll need to get euca support i.e. paid support because its so buggy and difficult (imho) [13:28] uhm [13:28] i dont know what you mean by commercial :) [13:28] they just want to use the cloud for internal testing of some software [13:29] so, which one do you think i should scope? cloudstack or openstack? and what is the difference? [13:33] well sorry, i mean like as in professional. i wouldn't use eucalyptus without their support because of how it is [13:34] you don't need a private cloud for testing of software though, you can just use virtualizer like virtualbox or vmware [13:34] for other private clouds, i'd check out both. UEC will be switching to one of these soon anyway [13:34] that's exactly what i'm thinking, but they said they want a cloud for this [13:35] though there is no reason why you just don't use aws ec2 for your needs. [13:35] well Amazon EC2 is the biggest cloud in the world [13:35] *public cloud sorry [14:45] flaccid, fulc Ubuntu's "UEC" is changing its name in 11.10 to "Ubuntu Cloud" . Previously, that was "Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud". The 'E' was confusing both under the assumption that Enterprise == "I have to pay for it" and "E" == "Eucalyptus" [14:46] in 11.10, Ubuntu's default solution when installing cloud will be openstack. [14:46] great, now i just have to wait 4 months for it :D [14:47] well, you can try alpha1, but i wont tell you that it going to be a easy experience [14:47] or that you should judge ubuntu on that. [14:47] if you need osmething for testing, you really should give a quick look to UEC of 11.04 installed from ISO. it may well "just work" for your needs. [14:47] i'll probably manage to get this euca thing working...been struggling with it for 2 weeks now [14:47] smoser: yeah, thus my comment. [14:48] i have zero experience with cloudstack, so i am not able to comment there. [14:48] there is no reason why you can't just try out both openstack and cloudstack without ubuntu [14:48] ubuntu doesn't need to hold your hand there :) [14:49] ah, regarding xen, that is definitelyi untested path on ubuntu. [14:50] personally, i mean if its going to be called ubuntu cloud and its openstack well its not a cloud by ubuntu is it [14:51] oh well, i installed ubuntu because it came with everything already installed =] [14:51] the name change also doesn't explain the major switch of cloud software either does it? :) [14:51] the UEC as a whole I mean [14:52] but these are some old machines with no hardware virtualization...and kvm doesnt support the other one :P [14:52] decent cloud software is not hard to install and has docs on how to install [14:53] well ubuntu doesn't support it but paravirtual with xen is indeed possible with euca, http://open.eucalyptus.com/forum/eucalyptus-xen-or-kvm [14:53] support is dependent on the kernel i.e. you may need a xen specific kernel if not compiled in [14:54] for euca its more of an option, but for ubuntu its not supported [14:55] ec2 and the rackspace cloud both use xen [14:57] is this amazon ec2 free? [14:58] it can be with the aws free tier [14:58] let me google it up =] [14:59] erm, i dont understand this...pay as you go computing...are they offering me a cloud? [14:59] i would just like some software to run on my own machines =) [15:01] there is #aws for aws and you basically have the most popular cloud options [15:02] ec2 is a public cloud [15:02] err *most popular private cloud options [15:03] right... [15:03] so i need this aws thing instead of ec2 =] [15:04] aws=amazon web services which offers the ec2 cloud as a product [15:15] amazon does not provide any solution for "private cloud" [15:15] only public cloud [15:26] oh i see [15:26] thanks for the help guys [18:33] hello === daker is now known as daker_ [19:52] How do you find the log of an individual vm? From eucalyptus/UEC's point of view, not the vms. [20:06] Kyle__: which kind of logs are you looking for? [20:19] obino: Ones that will show me why a vm didn't start. [21:36] you may want to look into the nc.log [21:36] find the NC that tries to run the instance and look in the nc.log on that machine [21:37] you can trace it from the cc.log (it will tell you the IP address of the NC trying to run the instance) [21:37] OK [21:40] Will it be in there by bucket name or image id? === mrjazzcat_ is now known as mrjazzcat [21:54] Kyle__: instance ID