[01:37] <iceroot> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/koffice/+pots/kocolorspaces/de/+translate?show=untranslated  is there a way to remove a type from myself?
[03:49] <iceroot> if i found a type in the original english text silva is providing. What is the common way to fix that? create a bug against the source-package and patch it there? how to find out which package it is? silva is just showing  Located in Products.Silva:/Folder.py:915 The text is "This container as no index." and i guess it should be "has" instead of "as"
[09:11] <andrejz> good morning, dpm
[09:12] <dpm> hea andrejz :)
[09:12] <dpm> hey
[09:13] <andrejz> i have a question for you ;)  I was wondering how are ddtp translations managed
[09:13] <andrejz> I guess they are a not a part of the ubuntu language pack, right?
[09:15] <dpm> andrejz, that's right, they're not. They're uploaded from time to time but are no part of the langpacks. They're uploaded to the Ubuntu archive, and from there apt-get downloads (or caches) them whenever they need to be presented to the user
[09:15] <dpm> we've had talks with mvo to do the ddtp uploads at the same time as langpacks, but we've never actually done it yet.
[09:16] <andrejz> so in that case how can a) test the translations
[09:17] <andrejz> b) make sure they get to users in time for next version of ubuntu
[09:17] <dpm> a) starting software center and checking a few translations
[09:18] <dpm> b) need to figure this one out yet, but mvo already takes care of uploading the translations before release each time
[09:18] <andrejz> so basically if i translate a string today
[09:18] <andrejz> when should i be able to open up software center and see translated/updated string
[09:19] <andrejz> is there a defined delay for updates of translations or is it more or less random
[09:20] <dpm> as I say, there are no set dates for uploads, so I cannot answer this one. For stable releases, we should probably sync uploads with language packs, and for dev releases we should probably upload them weekly or something like that
[09:20] <dpm> it is just a matter of coming up with a plan and talking to mvo on how to implement it
[09:21] <andrejz> ok cool, thanks for the answers. they were very helpful
[09:22] <dpm> no worries :)
[09:22] <andrejz> if these uploads can be made automatic weekly (or bi-weekly) updates would be really cool
[09:22] <dpm> yeah. I'm not sure if it's possible, but if it were, it'd be for the development release only
[09:24] <andrejz> yeah of course. doing it in stable would cause a lot of traffic.
[09:24] <andrejz> we put a lot of effort in ddtp last cycle and this cycle so now we would like to test what we've got and be sure we are testing the latest & greatest
[09:26] <andrejz> i think mistakes are more often in ddtp packages, since strings are long and it's easier to lose overview of the sentance.
[11:24] <RawChid> Hey dpm, had a look on the merge proposal yet?
[12:24] <dpm> RawChid, sorry for the delay, looking...
[12:30] <RawChid> No problem
[12:35] <dpm> RawChid, I had missed the re-sent proposal, sorry. In general, if you see that I haven't responded in a couple of days, always feel free to ping me on IRC
[12:40] <RawChid> Oke. Hey, I followed the Rock Solid Python workshop :P
[12:50] <dpm> RawChid, cool, so I guess you're now more than familiar with testing ;)
[12:51] <dpm> this is one of the todo's in the package in general
[12:51] <dpm> only that when I saw the .csv tool it reminded me about it
[12:51] <dpm> that's why I mentioned it
[12:52] <dpm> for the priority setter we could perhaps have a test that sets the priority in staging and reads it back
[12:56] <RawChid> Sounds good
[12:57] <RawChid> Original I'm more a Java developer, and there I'm familiar with automatic unit/integration testing
[15:14] <kelemengabor> dpm: hi, I see that the first Oneiric langpacks are out, should we proceed to opening the translations now?
[15:16] <dpm> kelemengabor, yep!, give me a few minutes to dig out the draft announcement...
[15:27] <kelemengabor> hm, import queue is full with templates again: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+imports?field.filter_status=NEEDS_REVIEW&field.filter_extension=pot
[15:35] <dpm> they seem to be mostly not important, apart from lightdm. Most of them are man pages, I've started blocking a few
[16:03] <dpm> kelemengabor, the announcement is ready, do you want to do the honours? ;)
[16:03] <kelemengabor> sure :)
[16:04] <kelemengabor> Oneiric                 translations are                                    visible to everyone.
[16:05] <kelemengabor> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+configure-translations gives a timeout :(
[16:06] <kelemengabor> several times, I don't think it's gonna work :(
[16:09] <dpm> kelemengabor, "Oneiric translations are visible to everyone." means that you've opened them, so that's all that's needed. So on what concerns that part, you've already flicked the switch :)
[16:09] <dpm> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+configure-translations is only needed to change the focus. Which part is timing out for you? Just loading the page? Or trying to change a setting?
[16:10] <kelemengabor> changing the setting
[16:10] <kelemengabor> I hit Change, and it says          (Error ID:         OOPS-1997G36)
[16:10] <ubot4> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1997G36
[16:11] <dpm> let me try (I'll probably get one too)
[16:14] <dpm> ok, asked on #launchpad
[16:17] <dpm> ok, just as a final step, could someone without admin access to Launchpad Translations confirm that you can access the https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/ page and start translating Oneiric?
[16:21] <dpm> kelemengabor, bug 799785
[16:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 799785 in launchpad "Timeout when trying to set the translation focus for Ubuntu (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799785
[16:23] <kelemengabor> thanks for filing it :)
[16:25] <artnay> dpm: it's accessible and translating is possible
[16:25] <dpm> artnay, excellent, thanks :)
[16:25] <dpm> kelemengabor, np ;)