[04:43]  * nlsthzn waves
[05:52] <superfly> morning nlsthzn
[05:52] <nlsthzn> superfly: Good morning :)
[05:54]  * superfly is back on a PC again... the work PC
[05:56]  * nlsthzn isn't on the work PC for a change... well until tonight ;(
[06:01]  * superfly shakes his head
[06:01] <superfly> some people...
[06:02] <superfly> they are too lazy to read the documentation, so they ask all their silly little questions on the mailing list, one mail at a time... dude, just spend *FIVE* minutes reading the documentation!
[06:03] <nlsthzn> superfly: That is one of the reasons I am not that fond of mailing lists... if you are being a noob on a forum people can just ignore you, on a mailing list you force your stupidity into someones inbox
[06:04] <superfly> heh
[06:04] <superfly> the converse is that in a forum no one responds to you, and you think there's no community out there (like 2 active people in the ubuntu-za forums)
[06:07] <nlsthzn> I never think to even check the -za forum on UF...
[06:07] <superfly> i have a notification set up
[06:09] <nlsthzn> I could do that but I am not clued up enough to be of any assistance (mostly)...
[06:10] <superfly> I'm not terribly clued up either... but at least I can mumble something about using the mailing list ;-)
[06:11] <nlsthzn> superfly: lol... and so the circle continues :p
[07:16] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee on
[07:16]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:16] <superfly> morning kbmonkey
[07:16] <kbmonkey> morning superfly 
[07:17] <superfly> eish, it's cold - I need some more tea
[07:20] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for kbmonkey!
[07:22] <kbmonkey> Maaz, thank you!!
[07:22] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Okay :-)
[07:32] <kbmonkey> how you superfly 
[07:33] <superfly> cold
[07:35] <kbmonkey> same!
[07:36] <kbmonkey> car wont start today. oops. suspect the cut wires are leaking juice. eeek. 
[07:36] <kbmonkey> and all I keep thinking is where I can find a patch to fix car-battery-bug o.O
[07:43] <nlsthzn> kbmonkey: :)
[09:56] <marcog> Maaz: announce IRC meeting 19:30 this evening!
[09:56] <Maaz> Hear ye, hear ye! IRC meeting 19:30 this evening
[11:38] <nuvolari> whoot!
[12:15] <Kerbero> who is going to join us @ The Braven Head tonight?
[12:15] <Kerbero> the stellenboscher's will be IRCing from there
[12:15] <Kerbero> *Brazen
[12:48]  * drubin 
[12:49] <superfly> hi drubin
[12:55] <drubin> hi superfly 
[12:58] <drubin> So basically our beer evening is awesome. And any one that feels like the mission out to stellenbosch is more then welcome to come with
[12:59] <marcog> beer evening? where's this?
[12:59] <drubin> marcog: stellenbosch 
[12:59] <drubin> we do one once a month 
[12:59] <marcog> tonight?
[12:59] <drubin> #linux at sun 
[12:59] <drubin> marcog: yip
[12:59] <marcog> meh, weekdays
[12:59] <marcog> if it was weekend, i'd try join once
[13:00] <drubin> marcog: meh, cape town is far for your "week days"
[13:00] <drubin> marcog: what else are you doing :)
[13:00] <marcog> drubin: work!
[13:00] <drubin> lies! ;-p
[13:00] <marcog> not at all
[13:00] <drubin> i was joking
[13:00] <marcog> yeah yeah ;)
[16:38]  * nlsthzn waves
[16:46]  * kbmonkey waves back
[16:48] <nlsthzn> hey kbmonkey and all other lurkers :)
[16:50] <superfly> Zzzzz
[16:51] <kbmonkey> -.-
[16:54] <kbmonkey> which debian release is natty 11.04 based on? cant seem to find this info
[16:55] <tumbleweed> kbmonkey: Ubuntu is always based on Debian unstable
[16:55] <tumbleweed> i.e. the latest packaging in Debian
[16:55] <kbmonkey> really? I did not know that, thanks tumbleweed 
[16:55] <tumbleweed> (some bits will come from Debian experimental, and some bits from the latest upstream releases)
[16:58] <tumbleweed> for lucid, I think we synced from debian testing, but that was an experiment, it may not happen again for the next LTS
[17:33] <nuvolari> raaight, when's meeting time?
[17:34] <nuvolari> guess I'm too early
[17:34] <nuvolari> :P
[17:34] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: only by one hour :)
[17:37]  * kbmonkey tummy grumbles
[17:38] <nuvolari> booyah! at least I'm early
[17:38] <nuvolari> lo kbmonkey, nlsthzn 
[17:39] <nuvolari> Maaz: I am NAME SURNAME
[17:39] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sorry...
[17:39] <nuvolari> heh, smart bot
[17:39] <nuvolari> or do you symathise?
[17:39] <nlsthzn> :)
[17:39] <nuvolari> *sympathise
[17:40]  * nuvolari drags a dictionary closer
[17:40] <nlsthzn> double :)
[17:41] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: jy lyk soos 'n kat wat melk gesteel het? :P
[17:41] <nuvolari> wavoor al die smiles?
[17:41] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: hehe... possible... or at least one that has spell check built into his IRC client :p
[17:42] <nuvolari> pffft. somehow I know aspell or something work in the cli but I don't know how it works
[17:44] <nuvolari> drubin: help? you're the weechat master
[17:45]  * nlsthzn stroked his X-Chat based IRC client for Windows... nice p-chat...
[17:46]  * nuvolari skins his head. V. o. d. a. c. o. m.
[17:46] <nuvolari> Warning: The word "wag-'n-bietjie" is invalid.
[17:47] <nuvolari> :(
[17:47] <afrodeity> tumbleweed: which is why Ubuntu is more of a hobby system than a Desktop alternative to some more commercial systems 
[17:48] <superfly> Naandse oom Kilos!
[17:48] <nuvolari> Kilos: hallo oom!
[17:48] <Kilos> naanse almal
[17:48] <nuvolari> lo superfly 
[17:48] <Kilos> net betyds nê
[17:48] <superfly> Sup nuvolari 
[17:48] <Kilos> i love my hobby system
[17:49] <Kilos> whats news with the mb superfly 
[17:49] <superfly> My job requires I use this hobby system that is largely immune to viruses and is stable
[17:49] <Kilos> hehehehe
[17:49] <superfly> Kilos: no word yet
[17:50]  * nlsthzn waves @ uncle Kilos 
[17:50] <Kilos> rev them superfly . or claim another one
[17:50] <Kilos> lo nlsthzn 
[17:50] <nuvolari> we also use this hobby system at work
[17:51] <Kilos> lol
[17:51] <nuvolari> /bu/winup
[17:53] <Kilos> time for coffee before the meeting
[17:53] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:53]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[17:54] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee for all
[17:54] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[17:54] <Kilos> nlsthzn, forget tea for now, havva cuppa
[17:55] <nlsthzn> Kilos: sorry, already on my first cup o tea... I will wait for more advanced AI that can also handle tea
[17:56] <Kilos> lol
[17:56] <magespawn> eveninga all.
[17:57] <Kilos> lo magespawn 
[17:57] <magespawn> i am on gprs tonight from my phone
[17:57] <magespawn> hi kilos
[17:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:58] <Kilos> lol im on gprs through a 3g modem
[17:58] <Kilos> vodacom very sick here
[17:58] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:58] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[17:58] <superfly> I'm on my phone too! Though I'm using the wifi at home.
[17:59] <Kilos> and you guys still use caps and exclamation marks and all
[17:59] <Kilos> whew
[17:59] <magespawn> I am using my N900
[18:00] <magespawn> xChat
[18:00] <superfly> Kilos: that's cause my phone runs Linux
[18:00] <Kilos> ah superfly thats great
[18:00] <superfly> magespawn: Quassel2go on my N900 here
[18:00] <magespawn> keen.
[18:00] <Kilos> is the meeting still on guys?
[18:01] <magespawn> i am still learning all this 'phone' can do.
[18:01] <nuvolari> Kilos: ja oom, in 30 minute
[18:01] <superfly> Kilos: 19:30
[18:01] <magespawn> as far as I know
[18:01] <nuvolari> *29.25
[18:02] <Kilos> thanks guys. i didnt read the mail properly
[18:02] <Kilos> as usual
[18:02] <superfly> magespawn have installed OpenArena?
[18:03]  * nuvolari fires up minecraft
[18:03] <magespawn> no, whats that? superfly can you run a wifi hotspot through the N900?
[18:05] <superfly> magespawn: it's quake 3 arena with open source artwork
[18:06] <magespawn> nice. i'll have a look tomorrow.
[18:06]  * nlsthzn approves of OpenArena
[18:06] <superfly> Also, I haven't been able to get the wifi hotspot to work, but since this is the only wifi device I own, I don't have much to test.
[18:11] <magespawn> according to the news we have the largest number of asylum seekers in south africa in the whole world
[18:13] <nlsthzn> magespawn: asylum from where?
[18:15] <superfly> Mostly other african countries, at a guess
[18:20] <marcog> Maaz: announce IRC meeting in 10 minutes!
[18:20] <Maaz> Announcement from marcog! IRC meeting in 10 minutes
[18:21] <magespawn> yup from countries mainly in africa
[18:22] <superfly> Hallo maiatoday 
[18:22] <maiatoday> hi superfly 
[18:23] <magespawn> hi maiatoday
[18:23] <maiatoday> hi *
[18:24] <drubin> woohoo
[18:24] <drubin> ssh lag ftw
[18:25] <drubin> Queery1985: waar is jy?
[18:26] <magespawn> superfly how is battery life?
[18:26] <Queery1985> hold on
[18:26] <Kilos> hi maiatoday drubin Queery1985 
[18:27] <Kilos> hi arthurrilke you new here?\
[18:28] <arthurrilke> Kilos: Hi there. Kind of, although I did attend the meeting before last.
[18:28] <kbmonkey> hello hello
[18:28] <Kilos> did anyone welcome you arthurrilke 
[18:28] <Kilos> lo kbmonkey 
[18:29] <nuvolari> g'evening
[18:29] <lost_and_unfound> greetings fellow geeks
[18:29] <nuvolari> welcome lost_and_unfound 
[18:29] <Kilos> lol lo lost_and_unfound 
[18:29] <afrodeity> hi everybody
[18:29] <lost_and_unfound> my first meeting =]
[18:29] <drubin> Kilos: :) dankie oom 
[18:29] <Queery1985> ok fine im just going to use this nick
[18:29]  * nuvolari tags lost_and_unfound with an RFID chip
[18:29] <Kilos> welcome lost_and_unfound 
[18:29] <drubin> Kilos: hoe gaan dit daar?
[18:30] <arthurrilke> Kilos: Yeah, I'm sure somebody did :)
[18:30] <Kilos> goed dankie drubin 
[18:30] <lost_and_unfound> erm... Kilos ... did you chat on lagnet way back when days?
[18:30] <Queery1985> hi all
[18:30] <Kilos> lagnet?
[18:30]  * nuvolari recalls lagnet
[18:30]  * nlsthzn waves at all the peoples... we likes the peoples
[18:31] <kbmonkey> lagnet irc servers :)
[18:31] <lost_and_unfound> nah just ignore that =]
[18:31] <maiatoday> ok we wait a few more minutes then we can get started
[18:31] <Kilos> i only been online for about a year and a half
[18:31] <lost_and_unfound> ah
[18:31] <kbmonkey> good, gives me a extra min to chomp more rusks!
[18:31] <nuvolari> Kilos: shjoe, that long already?
[18:31] <kbmonkey> hey it's my 1st irc bday coming up ;P lol
[18:31] <nuvolari> now I crave rusks. thet ones my mom make
[18:32] <Kilos> ja boetie van nov 2009 ek dink
[18:32] <nuvolari> *the
[18:32] <lost_and_unfound> hmmm rusks will go good with this weather
[18:32] <nuvolari> Kilos: ons moet vir oom 'n party gooi
[18:32] <Kilos> lol
[18:32] <Kilos> gooi net data
[18:32] <magespawn> online?
[18:32] <Kilos> die res het julle al gegee
[18:32]  * nlsthzn going for some more tea... brb
[18:33] <kbmonkey> hi and welcome to all our new friends
[18:33] <Kilos> online=connected to the internet
[18:33] <lost_and_unfound> online = clothes on the washing line ?
[18:33] <KerberoMobile> i
[18:33] <KerberoMobile> i am
[18:33] <KerberoMobile> i am jpmeijers
[18:34] <Kilos> and tried with winsucks for 6 months before that
[18:34] <KerberoMobile> ai
[18:34] <KerberoMobile> maia
[18:34] <kuber_pietie> KerberoMobile: too early
[18:34] <superfly> So who is chairing this meeting? marcog?
[18:34] <maiatoday> Maaz: start meeting about ubuntu-za June 2011 irc monthly meeting
[18:34]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:34] <maiatoday> I am
[18:34] <kuber_pietie> KerberoMobile: maaz is not in meeting mode
[18:34] <superfly> Ah
[18:34] <kuber_pietie> now is
[18:34] <maiatoday> Maaz I am Maia Grotepass
[18:34] <Maaz> maiatoday: Righto
[18:34] <marcog> Maaz: i am Marco Gallotta
[18:34] <Maaz> marcog: Sure
[18:34] <kuber_pietie> Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt
[18:34] <Maaz> kuber_pietie: Sure
[18:34] <superfly> Maaz, I am Raoul Snyman
[18:34] <Maaz> superfly: Righto
[18:34] <Kilos> Maaz, i am miles sharpe
[18:34] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[18:35] <lost_and_unfound> Maaz, Wynand Meijer
[18:35] <Maaz> lost_and_unfound: What?
[18:35] <Queery1985> maaz, i am dewald noeth
[18:35] <Maaz> Queery1985: Righto
[18:35] <magespawn> Maaz, I am Greg Eames
[18:35] <Maaz> magespawn: Righto
[18:35] <drubin> Maaz: I am David Rubin
[18:35] <Maaz> drubin: Alrighty
[18:35] <oogway> oogway, Hilton Gibson
[18:35] <arthurrilke> Maaz: I am Arthur Rilke
[18:35] <Maaz> arthurrilke: Yessir
[18:35] <KerberoMobile> maaz i am jp meijers
[18:35] <Maaz> KerberoMobile: Sure
[18:35] <Queery1985> maaz, coffee on
[18:35]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:35] <kuber_pietie> lost_and_unfound: you need "I am"
[18:35] <lost_and_unfound> Maaz, I am Wynand Meijer
[18:35] <Maaz> lost_and_unfound: Righto
[18:35] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[18:35] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[18:35] <kbmonkey> Maaz, I am Wesley Werner
[18:35] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Okay
[18:35] <nlsthzn> Maaz: I am Neil Oosthuizen
[18:35] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Alrighty
[18:35] <maiatoday> This meeting is also happening in real life in the Brazen head woohoo together with sulug beer evening
[18:35] <KerberoMobile> maaz, beer on
[18:35] <Maaz> KerberoMobile: Sorry...
[18:35] <lost_and_unfound> ah... thanks kuber_pietie 
[18:35] <KerberoMobile> :(
[18:36] <KerberoMobile> k bye
[18:36] <maiatoday> Maaz topic review previous minutes
[18:36] <Maaz> Current Topic: review previous minutes
[18:36]  * nlsthzn wants some beer too
[18:36] <Queery1985> im at the beer evening
[18:36] <maiatoday> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20110516
[18:36] <kuber_pietie> whut? where is Kerbero gone to?
[18:36] <drubin> maiatoday: why aren't we using the loco team website>?
[18:36] <maiatoday> also agenda here http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/115/detail/
[18:36] <maiatoday> we are
[18:37] <maiatoday> luckily there aren't any agenda points
[18:37]  * nlsthzn sees a short meeting
[18:37] <kuber_pietie> nlsthzn: you'd be surprised :P
[18:37] <Kilos> drubin, you didnt mention those lappy's on the lists
[18:37] <kbmonkey> yes I could not think of any points to add
[18:37] <Kilos> must be someone near paarl
[18:38] <marcog> maiatoday: how's it going with the regional contacts?
[18:38] <maiatoday> urk I still haven't mailed pretoria people about pics
[18:38] <maiatoday> I have a list of regional people and adresses for about 4 of them.
[18:38] <kuber_pietie> I mailed one Ubuntu disk last Saturday
[18:38] <magespawn> how regional are we talking?
[18:38] <maiatoday> I have requested address so that I can mail all cds in one batch
[18:39] <maiatoday> magespawn: we discussed on the mailing list and made a list of people to represent different regions
[18:39] <maiatoday> so the idea is that I have someone to send the CDs to
[18:39] <magespawn> ahh okay will go back and review
[18:39] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Queery1985 and Kilos!
[18:39] <Kilos> maqty
[18:39] <Kilos> grr
[18:39] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:39] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[18:39] <kuber_pietie> kbmonkey: when I get around to it, will you help with multi-ubuntu install? 
[18:39] <Queery1985> maay
[18:39] <maiatoday> also we did discuss the loco contact take over on the mailing list
[18:39] <Queery1985> maaz, ty
[18:39] <Maaz> Enjoy Queery1985
[18:40] <maiatoday> and drubin is still helping me :)
[18:40] <afrodeity> I have to be somewhere in half-hour
[18:40] <kbmonkey> kuber_pietie, yes no problem :)
[18:40] <afrodeity> so how is ubuntu LoCo doing?
[18:41] <maiatoday> Queery1985:  hasn't made a list of lugs, but it's ok because we have a list regional contacts and we have a url with a list of lugs
[18:41] <kuber_pietie> Durbs is doing OK, we had a meeting, unofficial
[18:41] <marcog> just in case it's worth mentioning, tumbleweed has been mentoring a few uct students starting to get into some ubuntu dev
[18:41] <drubin> kuber_pietie: cool
[18:41] <kuber_pietie> but planning an official one for July 16'th
[18:41] <marcog> if that goes well it could grow
[18:41] <Queery1985> i will be a contact in 4 monthes
[18:41] <maiatoday> I did get CDs to stellenbosch people
[18:41] <afrodeity> gr8t
[18:41] <afrodeity> thanks Maia
[18:42] <kuber_pietie> kbmonkey: thinking what I'm thinking?
[18:42] <superfly> maiatoday: I finally upgraded the web site
[18:43] <kuber_pietie> we should get the rest of the dbn people on here
[18:43] <superfly> And I've been keeping an eye on the forums
[18:43] <maiatoday> I'll take another action item to sort out volunteers for more people to help
[18:43] <maiatoday> Maaz action maiatoday will organise more task volunteers on the mailing list
[18:43] <Maaz> maiatoday: Sorry...
[18:43] <kbmonkey> and take photos of CD exchange kuber_pietie!\
[18:43] <maiatoday> urk
[18:44] <lost_and_unfound> what is generally on the cd's? (sorry for noob question new to the Loco) 
[18:44] <maiatoday> maaz agree maiatoday will organise more task volunteers on the mailing list
[18:44] <Maaz> maiatoday: What?
[18:44] <kuber_pietie> maiatoday: gesundheit
[18:44] <maiatoday> maaz agreed maiatoday will organise more task volunteers on the mailing list
[18:44] <Maaz> Agreed: maiatoday will organise more task volunteers on the mailing list
[18:44] <marcog> maiatoday: agree*d*
[18:44] <afrodeity> maaz: google Ubuntu CD
[18:44] <Maaz> afrodeity: "Download | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download :: "ShipIt has closed | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/shipit :: "LiveCD - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD :: "CDs and DVDs | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/cds :: "Use Ubuntu Live CD to Backup Files from Your Dead Windows Computer ..." http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/use-ubuntu-live-cd-to-backup-
[18:44] <drubin> afrodeity: Not now
[18:44] <drubin> afrodeity: we are in a meeting
[18:44] <afrodeity> thanks drubin, I know, was just trying to answer noob question
[18:45] <maiatoday> anybody want to add anything about the training we discussed last time?
[18:45] <superfly> lost_and_unfound: Ubuntu CD's
[18:45] <Kilos> lost_and_unfound, the full ubuntu installation and then you update after that
[18:45] <kuber_pietie> maiatoday: the LPI?
[18:45] <maiatoday> yeah
[18:45] <lost_and_unfound> thanks,will keep noob questions till after the meeting =]
[18:46] <maiatoday> ok strictly we are at the end of the agenda
[18:46] <kbmonkey> must be a new record time
[18:46] <kuber_pietie> I so so want to do it. But I'm not sure that I'll always have the time to study
[18:46] <afrodeity> when's the next jam?
[18:46] <nlsthzn> superfly: do you need more assistance keeping an eye on the forum?
[18:46] <maiatoday> I will leave the meeting open the floor is open until 20:00 for people to discuss what they want
[18:46] <nlsthzn> *some assistance
[18:47] <kbmonkey> maiatoday, the LPI training manual has been updated and now (apparently) includes material for tutors too
[18:47] <afrodeity> more jam I think
[18:47] <kbmonkey> I haven't gone over the new material yet. That is all.
[18:48] <afrodeity> local oggfest would also be kewl
[18:48] <superfly> nlsthzn: not hugely, but I'm sure a few other faces would be good... i just have a notification set up
[18:48] <Queery1985> just want to say that, though it did not go as planed we had a ubuntu-hour WC last saterday 
[18:49] <kuber_pietie> o/ question: what do you think of a yearly award? community-wise for influenital people
[18:49] <maiatoday> yay for Queery1985 
[18:49] <Kilos> hi Skarr[m] 
[18:49] <maiatoday> hmm that's tricky who would decide
[18:49] <afrodeity> we can post suggestions on the wiki?
[18:50] <magespawn> we could also vote
[18:50] <afrodeity> +1
[18:50] <drubin> 1/whoik
[18:51]  * nlsthzn has subscribed to the -za section of UF... I will scare away any trolls and troll when it is to quiet...
[18:51] <marcog> i don't necessarily think we should be pushing for influential individuals
[18:51] <kuber_pietie> I know it's hard, but there's definitely people out there that make deeptracks
[18:51] <Queery1985> its gonna be a lot to adminastrate
[18:51]  * marcog prefers lots of people contributing little bits
[18:51] <kbmonkey> Adding: the link for that LPI manual is http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/linux-system-administration-training-manual
[18:51] <afrodeity> maybe its just some way to reward local devs somehow?
[18:51]  * maiatoday prefers if people to do stuff cause the want to not for a reward
[18:52] <afrodeity> just a cake I think
[18:52] <kuber_pietie> but i'm thinking outside of devs, people that work with other people and in that way promote ubuntu on a daily basis
[18:52] <marcog> maiatoday: agreed!
[18:53] <kuber_pietie> ok, then instead of an award, a mention :P
[18:53] <afrodeity> +2
[18:53] <Queery1985> karma
[18:53] <marcog> kuber_pietie: speaking as someone who does lots of influential stuff, a thank-you is adequate for me
[18:53] <kbmonkey> I guess the act is reward itself?
[18:54] <marcog> indeed
[18:54] <afrodeity> zen?
[18:54] <kbmonkey> zen
[18:55] <kuber_pietie> ya, it's definitely something that need some thought, but I just thought of it in the moment :P
[18:55] <afrodeity> maybe if we just take photos of local ubuntu users in action, in everyday situtions, that would be good?
[18:55] <kuber_pietie> ooh, like that idea
[18:56] <kuber_pietie> and maybe do an article on all the people we can find?
[18:56] <lost_and_unfound> I have been unable to find evening classes for linux in PTA, I would like to become involved in training.
[18:56] <afrodeity> there's this icafe in salt river which is totally ubuntu last time I looked
[18:56] <magespawn> promoting from the inside outwards
[18:56] <kbmonkey> really? that's neat and unheard of in KZN
[18:56] <magespawn> my mine in hluhluwe is too.
[18:57] <maiatoday> ok people, I am going to end the meeting now
[18:57] <afrodeity> any sign of normality would be good
[18:57] <maiatoday> maaz meeting end
[18:57] <Maaz> maiatoday: What?
[18:57] <maiatoday> maaz end meeting
[18:57] <Kilos> ty maiatoday 
[18:57] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[18:57] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-06-20-17-34-15.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-06-20-17-34-15.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-06-20-17-34-15.html
[18:57] <afrodeity> ty
[18:57] <kuber_pietie> whoot
[18:57] <kuber_pietie> great meeting
[18:57] <nlsthzn> hmmm... that was the strangest meeting ever... felt more like a free for all :p
[18:57] <Kilos> lol
[18:57] <maiatoday> the end of it was
[18:57] <afrodeity> experiential meet
[18:58] <magespawn> meeting mash
[18:58] <maiatoday>  but also there wasn't any agenda points
[18:58] <drubin> oogway:  where are you?
[18:58] <kuber_pietie> sometimes a bit of freedom can be very productive
[18:58] <maiatoday> thanks for making it everybody, it was very short notice
[18:58] <afrodeity> I think we need to ask people to put up points for discussion
[18:58] <afrodeity> at least to remind them
[18:58] <oogway> drubin: bit sick @ home
[18:58] <afrodeity> :)
[18:58] <afrodeity> :(
[18:58] <afrodeity> I off, ty
[18:58] <marcog> maiatoday: when's the next one?
[18:58] <maiatoday> thanks to reminding us marcog
[18:58] <Queery1985> im off
[18:59] <maiatoday> in a months time
[18:59] <marcog> maiatoday: that was actually drubin 
[18:59] <magespawn> good idea
[18:59] <maiatoday> it is supposed to be on the ical
[18:59] <marcog> for some reason today's wasn't
[18:59] <marcog> it was there at the time of the last meeting though
[18:59] <marcog> and that's how i totally forgot about it
[18:59]  * afrodeity gets into its  silicon shorts and jets away
[18:59] <maiatoday> hmmm I actually want someone to be master or mistress of meeting reminders
[19:00]  * marcog was thinking the same
[19:00] <Queery1985> bye
[19:00] <maiatoday> kbmonkey don't you wanna make sure we remember the meeting, check the ical and send a reminder on the list?
[19:00] <Queery1985> maaz, goodbye
[19:00] <Kilos> bye Queery1985 
[19:00] <Maaz> Queery1985: Excuse me?
[19:01] <Queery1985> hmm
[19:01] <Queery1985> bye oom kilos
[19:01] <kuber_pietie> whut/ "Oracle Thinks Google Owes $6.1 Billion In Damages" what does that even mean?
[19:01] <kuber_pietie> why do they think it?
[19:01] <kuber_pietie> lol
[19:01] <kbmonkey> will do maiatoday !
[19:02] <nlsthzn> Oracle will be Oracle
[19:02] <maiatoday> thanks kbmonkey
[19:02] <marcog> maiatoday: is next one 18 july?
[19:02] <maiatoday> it's supposed to be the third monday every month
[19:03] <marcog> which is 18th so that's it
[19:03] <maiatoday> yes 18th july
[19:04] <maiatoday> ok I'm gonna talk to the other lug people here now, bye everyone
[19:05] <Kilos> night maity
[19:05] <Kilos> lol
[19:05] <Kilos> methinks me go find a warm hole too
[19:05] <Kilos> night all sleep warm
[19:06] <Skarr[m]> Bye
[19:06] <kbmonkey> what a pleasant meeting
[19:07] <nlsthzn> we needs moar flame wars :p
[19:07] <kbmonkey> we do! but not during the meeting lol
[19:08] <kbmonkey> pico! rabble rabble! vi! rabble rabble!
[19:11] <nlsthzn> nano vs emacs... :p
[19:11] <kbmonkey> emacs? no but thats an operating system! ;P
[19:12] <nlsthzn> hehe
[19:52] <superfly> There is no contest. vim always wins.
[19:54] <nlsthzn> Please... nano all the way...
[19:54] <nlsthzn> It is easy enough that I can use it
[19:55] <kbmonkey> pfft, nano hardly constitutes a 'sane' editor
[19:55] <superfly> Nano is braindead - I don't think you want to be associated with a braindead editor :-P
[19:56] <superfly> (just kidding)
[19:56] <kbmonkey> i'd sooner add words to my file via piping than nano </jokes>
[19:56]  * kbmonkey <--- used nano for a good few years before and notepad for even longer! 
[19:58] <kbmonkey> okay next flame...?
[19:58] <nlsthzn> The little I have had to use an editor in terminal has made nano a good choice, however I will have to know the more advanced editors for LPI T_T
[19:59] <nlsthzn> I was in the slackware IRC channel for less than a minute mentioning I use(d) Ubuntu and I got the first stinging remark thrown my way... was so cliche it was funny :p
[20:00] <kbmonkey> bwha ha ha. I'm sure it damaged their big egos ;D
[20:01] <nlsthzn> nah, only a few guys... most just ignored me :D permenantly
[20:02] <superfly> nlsthzn: what did they say?
[20:02] <nlsthzn> I made another blog post showing off slacware 13.37 and kde 4.6 etc..
[20:02] <nlsthzn> superfly: can't remember exactly :)
[20:04] <nlsthzn> Just typical FUD... took me one comment to stop it in its tracks... pretty funny
[21:00] <tumbleweed> afrodeity1: I don't follow your logic
[21:06]  * nlsthzn is awoken from his slumber by a random comment... before settling down again... zzzzzz