[04:43] * nlsthzn waves [05:52] morning nlsthzn [05:52] superfly: Good morning :) [05:54] * superfly is back on a PC again... the work PC [05:56] * nlsthzn isn't on the work PC for a change... well until tonight ;( [06:01] * superfly shakes his head [06:01] some people... [06:02] they are too lazy to read the documentation, so they ask all their silly little questions on the mailing list, one mail at a time... dude, just spend *FIVE* minutes reading the documentation! [06:03] superfly: That is one of the reasons I am not that fond of mailing lists... if you are being a noob on a forum people can just ignore you, on a mailing list you force your stupidity into someones inbox [06:04] heh [06:04] the converse is that in a forum no one responds to you, and you think there's no community out there (like 2 active people in the ubuntu-za forums) [06:07] I never think to even check the -za forum on UF... [06:07] i have a notification set up [06:09] I could do that but I am not clued up enough to be of any assistance (mostly)... [06:10] I'm not terribly clued up either... but at least I can mumble something about using the mailing list ;-) [06:11] superfly: lol... and so the circle continues :p [07:16] Maaz, coffee on [07:16] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [07:16] morning kbmonkey [07:16] morning superfly [07:17] eish, it's cold - I need some more tea [07:20] Coffee's ready for kbmonkey! [07:22] Maaz, thank you!! [07:22] kbmonkey: Okay :-) [07:32] how you superfly [07:33] cold [07:35] same! [07:36] car wont start today. oops. suspect the cut wires are leaking juice. eeek. [07:36] and all I keep thinking is where I can find a patch to fix car-battery-bug o.O [07:43] kbmonkey: :) [09:56] Maaz: announce IRC meeting 19:30 this evening! [09:56] Hear ye, hear ye! IRC meeting 19:30 this evening [11:38] whoot! [12:15] who is going to join us @ The Braven Head tonight? [12:15] the stellenboscher's will be IRCing from there [12:15] *Brazen [12:48] * drubin [12:49] hi drubin [12:55] hi superfly [12:58] So basically our beer evening is awesome. And any one that feels like the mission out to stellenbosch is more then welcome to come with [12:59] beer evening? where's this? [12:59] marcog: stellenbosch [12:59] we do one once a month [12:59] tonight? [12:59] #linux at sun [12:59] marcog: yip [12:59] meh, weekdays [12:59] if it was weekend, i'd try join once [13:00] marcog: meh, cape town is far for your "week days" [13:00] marcog: what else are you doing :) [13:00] drubin: work! [13:00] lies! ;-p [13:00] not at all [13:00] i was joking [13:00] yeah yeah ;) [16:38] * nlsthzn waves [16:46] * kbmonkey waves back [16:48] hey kbmonkey and all other lurkers :) [16:50] Zzzzz [16:51] -.- [16:54] which debian release is natty 11.04 based on? cant seem to find this info [16:55] kbmonkey: Ubuntu is always based on Debian unstable [16:55] i.e. the latest packaging in Debian [16:55] really? I did not know that, thanks tumbleweed [16:55] (some bits will come from Debian experimental, and some bits from the latest upstream releases) [16:58] for lucid, I think we synced from debian testing, but that was an experiment, it may not happen again for the next LTS [17:33] raaight, when's meeting time? [17:34] guess I'm too early [17:34] :P [17:34] nuvolari: only by one hour :) [17:37] * kbmonkey tummy grumbles [17:38] booyah! at least I'm early [17:38] lo kbmonkey, nlsthzn [17:39] Maaz: I am NAME SURNAME [17:39] nuvolari: Sorry... [17:39] heh, smart bot [17:39] or do you symathise? [17:39] :) [17:39] *sympathise [17:40] * nuvolari drags a dictionary closer [17:40] double :) [17:41] nlsthzn: jy lyk soos 'n kat wat melk gesteel het? :P [17:41] wavoor al die smiles? [17:41] nuvolari: hehe... possible... or at least one that has spell check built into his IRC client :p [17:42] pffft. somehow I know aspell or something work in the cli but I don't know how it works [17:44] drubin: help? you're the weechat master [17:45] * nlsthzn stroked his X-Chat based IRC client for Windows... nice p-chat... [17:46] * nuvolari skins his head. V. o. d. a. c. o. m. [17:46] Warning: The word "wag-'n-bietjie" is invalid. [17:47] :( [17:47] tumbleweed: which is why Ubuntu is more of a hobby system than a Desktop alternative to some more commercial systems [17:48] Naandse oom Kilos! [17:48] Kilos: hallo oom! [17:48] naanse almal [17:48] lo superfly [17:48] net betyds nê [17:48] Sup nuvolari [17:48] i love my hobby system [17:49] whats news with the mb superfly [17:49] My job requires I use this hobby system that is largely immune to viruses and is stable [17:49] hehehehe [17:49] Kilos: no word yet [17:50] * nlsthzn waves @ uncle Kilos [17:50] rev them superfly . or claim another one [17:50] lo nlsthzn [17:50] we also use this hobby system at work [17:51] lol [17:51] /bu/winup [17:53] time for coffee before the meeting [17:53] Maaz, coffee on [17:53] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [17:54] Maaz, coffee for all [17:54] Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already [17:54] nlsthzn, forget tea for now, havva cuppa [17:55] Kilos: sorry, already on my first cup o tea... I will wait for more advanced AI that can also handle tea [17:56] lol [17:56] eveninga all. [17:57] lo magespawn [17:57] i am on gprs tonight from my phone [17:57] hi kilos [17:57] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [17:58] lol im on gprs through a 3g modem [17:58] vodacom very sick here [17:58] Maaz, ty [17:58] Enjoy Kilos [17:58] I'm on my phone too! Though I'm using the wifi at home. [17:59] and you guys still use caps and exclamation marks and all [17:59] whew [17:59] I am using my N900 [18:00] xChat [18:00] Kilos: that's cause my phone runs Linux [18:00] ah superfly thats great [18:00] magespawn: Quassel2go on my N900 here [18:00] keen. [18:00] is the meeting still on guys? [18:01] i am still learning all this 'phone' can do. [18:01] Kilos: ja oom, in 30 minute [18:01] Kilos: 19:30 [18:01] as far as I know [18:01] *29.25 [18:02] thanks guys. i didnt read the mail properly [18:02] as usual [18:02] magespawn have installed OpenArena? [18:03] * nuvolari fires up minecraft [18:03] no, whats that? superfly can you run a wifi hotspot through the N900? [18:05] magespawn: it's quake 3 arena with open source artwork [18:06] nice. i'll have a look tomorrow. [18:06] * nlsthzn approves of OpenArena [18:06] Also, I haven't been able to get the wifi hotspot to work, but since this is the only wifi device I own, I don't have much to test. [18:11] according to the news we have the largest number of asylum seekers in south africa in the whole world [18:13] magespawn: asylum from where? [18:15] Mostly other african countries, at a guess [18:20] Maaz: announce IRC meeting in 10 minutes! [18:20] Announcement from marcog! IRC meeting in 10 minutes [18:21] yup from countries mainly in africa === Queery is now known as Guest53949 [18:22] Hallo maiatoday [18:22] hi superfly [18:23] hi maiatoday [18:23] hi * [18:24] woohoo [18:24] ssh lag ftw [18:25] Queery1985: waar is jy? [18:26] superfly how is battery life? [18:26] hold on [18:26] hi maiatoday drubin Queery1985 [18:27] hi arthurrilke you new here?\ [18:28] Kilos: Hi there. Kind of, although I did attend the meeting before last. [18:28] hello hello [18:28] did anyone welcome you arthurrilke [18:28] lo kbmonkey [18:29] g'evening [18:29] greetings fellow geeks [18:29] welcome lost_and_unfound [18:29] lol lo lost_and_unfound [18:29] hi everybody [18:29] my first meeting =] [18:29] Kilos: :) dankie oom [18:29] ok fine im just going to use this nick [18:29] * nuvolari tags lost_and_unfound with an RFID chip [18:29] welcome lost_and_unfound [18:29] Kilos: hoe gaan dit daar? [18:30] Kilos: Yeah, I'm sure somebody did :) [18:30] goed dankie drubin [18:30] erm... Kilos ... did you chat on lagnet way back when days? [18:30] hi all [18:30] lagnet? [18:30] * nuvolari recalls lagnet [18:30] * nlsthzn waves at all the peoples... we likes the peoples [18:31] lagnet irc servers :) [18:31] nah just ignore that =] [18:31] ok we wait a few more minutes then we can get started [18:31] i only been online for about a year and a half [18:31] ah [18:31] good, gives me a extra min to chomp more rusks! [18:31] Kilos: shjoe, that long already? [18:31] hey it's my 1st irc bday coming up ;P lol [18:31] now I crave rusks. thet ones my mom make [18:32] ja boetie van nov 2009 ek dink [18:32] *the [18:32] hmmm rusks will go good with this weather [18:32] Kilos: ons moet vir oom 'n party gooi [18:32] lol [18:32] gooi net data [18:32] online? [18:32] die res het julle al gegee [18:32] * nlsthzn going for some more tea... brb [18:33] hi and welcome to all our new friends [18:33] online=connected to the internet [18:33] online = clothes on the washing line ? [18:33] i [18:33] i am [18:33] i am jpmeijers === nuvolari is now known as kuber_pietie [18:34] and tried with winsucks for 6 months before that [18:34] ai [18:34] maia [18:34] KerberoMobile: too early [18:34] So who is chairing this meeting? marcog? [18:34] Maaz: start meeting about ubuntu-za June 2011 irc monthly meeting [18:34] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:34] I am [18:34] KerberoMobile: maaz is not in meeting mode [18:34] Ah [18:34] now is [18:34] Maaz I am Maia Grotepass [18:34] maiatoday: Righto [18:34] Maaz: i am Marco Gallotta [18:34] marcog: Sure [18:34] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [18:34] kuber_pietie: Sure [18:34] Maaz, I am Raoul Snyman [18:34] superfly: Righto [18:34] Maaz, i am miles sharpe [18:34] Kilos: Alrighty [18:35] Maaz, Wynand Meijer [18:35] lost_and_unfound: What? [18:35] maaz, i am dewald noeth [18:35] Queery1985: Righto [18:35] Maaz, I am Greg Eames [18:35] magespawn: Righto [18:35] Maaz: I am David Rubin [18:35] drubin: Alrighty [18:35] oogway, Hilton Gibson [18:35] Maaz: I am Arthur Rilke [18:35] arthurrilke: Yessir [18:35] maaz i am jp meijers [18:35] KerberoMobile: Sure [18:35] maaz, coffee on [18:35] * Maaz puts the kettle on [18:35] lost_and_unfound: you need "I am" [18:35] Maaz, I am Wynand Meijer [18:35] lost_and_unfound: Righto [18:35] Maaz, coffee please [18:35] Kilos: Alrighty [18:35] Maaz, I am Wesley Werner [18:35] kbmonkey: Okay [18:35] Maaz: I am Neil Oosthuizen [18:35] nlsthzn: Alrighty [18:35] This meeting is also happening in real life in the Brazen head woohoo together with sulug beer evening [18:35] maaz, beer on [18:35] KerberoMobile: Sorry... [18:35] ah... thanks kuber_pietie [18:35] :( [18:36] k bye [18:36] Maaz topic review previous minutes [18:36] Current Topic: review previous minutes [18:36] * nlsthzn wants some beer too [18:36] im at the beer evening [18:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20110516 [18:36] whut? where is Kerbero gone to? [18:36] maiatoday: why aren't we using the loco team website>? [18:36] also agenda here http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/115/detail/ [18:36] we are [18:37] luckily there aren't any agenda points [18:37] * nlsthzn sees a short meeting [18:37] nlsthzn: you'd be surprised :P [18:37] drubin, you didnt mention those lappy's on the lists [18:37] yes I could not think of any points to add [18:37] must be someone near paarl [18:38] maiatoday: how's it going with the regional contacts? [18:38] urk I still haven't mailed pretoria people about pics [18:38] I have a list of regional people and adresses for about 4 of them. [18:38] I mailed one Ubuntu disk last Saturday [18:38] how regional are we talking? [18:38] I have requested address so that I can mail all cds in one batch [18:39] magespawn: we discussed on the mailing list and made a list of people to represent different regions [18:39] so the idea is that I have someone to send the CDs to [18:39] ahh okay will go back and review [18:39] Coffee's ready for Queery1985 and Kilos! [18:39] maqty [18:39] grr [18:39] Maaz, ty [18:39] Enjoy Kilos [18:39] kbmonkey: when I get around to it, will you help with multi-ubuntu install? [18:39] maay [18:39] also we did discuss the loco contact take over on the mailing list [18:39] maaz, ty [18:39] Enjoy Queery1985 [18:40] and drubin is still helping me :) [18:40] I have to be somewhere in half-hour [18:40] kuber_pietie, yes no problem :) [18:40] so how is ubuntu LoCo doing? [18:41] Queery1985: hasn't made a list of lugs, but it's ok because we have a list regional contacts and we have a url with a list of lugs [18:41] Durbs is doing OK, we had a meeting, unofficial [18:41] just in case it's worth mentioning, tumbleweed has been mentoring a few uct students starting to get into some ubuntu dev [18:41] kuber_pietie: cool [18:41] but planning an official one for July 16'th [18:41] if that goes well it could grow [18:41] i will be a contact in 4 monthes [18:41] I did get CDs to stellenbosch people [18:41] gr8t [18:41] thanks Maia [18:42] kbmonkey: thinking what I'm thinking? [18:42] maiatoday: I finally upgraded the web site [18:43] we should get the rest of the dbn people on here [18:43] And I've been keeping an eye on the forums [18:43] I'll take another action item to sort out volunteers for more people to help [18:43] Maaz action maiatoday will organise more task volunteers on the mailing list [18:43] maiatoday: Sorry... [18:43] and take photos of CD exchange kuber_pietie!\ [18:43] urk [18:44] what is generally on the cd's? (sorry for noob question new to the Loco) [18:44] maaz agree maiatoday will organise more task volunteers on the mailing list [18:44] maiatoday: What? [18:44] maiatoday: gesundheit [18:44] maaz agreed maiatoday will organise more task volunteers on the mailing list [18:44] Agreed: maiatoday will organise more task volunteers on the mailing list [18:44] maiatoday: agree*d* [18:44] maaz: google Ubuntu CD [18:44] afrodeity: "Download | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download :: "ShipIt has closed | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/shipit :: "LiveCD - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD :: "CDs and DVDs | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/cds :: "Use Ubuntu Live CD to Backup Files from Your Dead Windows Computer ..." http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/use-ubuntu-live-cd-to-backup- [18:44] afrodeity: Not now [18:44] afrodeity: we are in a meeting [18:44] thanks drubin, I know, was just trying to answer noob question [18:45] anybody want to add anything about the training we discussed last time? [18:45] lost_and_unfound: Ubuntu CD's [18:45] lost_and_unfound, the full ubuntu installation and then you update after that [18:45] maiatoday: the LPI? [18:45] yeah [18:45] thanks,will keep noob questions till after the meeting =] [18:46] ok strictly we are at the end of the agenda [18:46] must be a new record time [18:46] I so so want to do it. But I'm not sure that I'll always have the time to study [18:46] when's the next jam? [18:46] superfly: do you need more assistance keeping an eye on the forum? [18:46] I will leave the meeting open the floor is open until 20:00 for people to discuss what they want [18:46] *some assistance [18:47] maiatoday, the LPI training manual has been updated and now (apparently) includes material for tutors too [18:47] more jam I think [18:47] I haven't gone over the new material yet. That is all. [18:48] local oggfest would also be kewl [18:48] nlsthzn: not hugely, but I'm sure a few other faces would be good... i just have a notification set up [18:48] just want to say that, though it did not go as planed we had a ubuntu-hour WC last saterday [18:49] o/ question: what do you think of a yearly award? community-wise for influenital people [18:49] yay for Queery1985 [18:49] hi Skarr[m] [18:49] hmm that's tricky who would decide [18:49] we can post suggestions on the wiki? [18:50] we could also vote [18:50] +1 [18:50] 1/whoik [18:51] * nlsthzn has subscribed to the -za section of UF... I will scare away any trolls and troll when it is to quiet... [18:51] i don't necessarily think we should be pushing for influential individuals [18:51] I know it's hard, but there's definitely people out there that make deeptracks [18:51] its gonna be a lot to adminastrate [18:51] * marcog prefers lots of people contributing little bits [18:51] Adding: the link for that LPI manual is http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/linux-system-administration-training-manual [18:51] maybe its just some way to reward local devs somehow? [18:51] * maiatoday prefers if people to do stuff cause the want to not for a reward [18:52] just a cake I think [18:52] but i'm thinking outside of devs, people that work with other people and in that way promote ubuntu on a daily basis [18:52] maiatoday: agreed! [18:53] ok, then instead of an award, a mention :P [18:53] +2 [18:53] karma [18:53] kuber_pietie: speaking as someone who does lots of influential stuff, a thank-you is adequate for me [18:53] I guess the act is reward itself? [18:54] indeed [18:54] zen? [18:54] zen [18:55] ya, it's definitely something that need some thought, but I just thought of it in the moment :P [18:55] maybe if we just take photos of local ubuntu users in action, in everyday situtions, that would be good? [18:55] ooh, like that idea [18:56] and maybe do an article on all the people we can find? [18:56] I have been unable to find evening classes for linux in PTA, I would like to become involved in training. [18:56] there's this icafe in salt river which is totally ubuntu last time I looked [18:56] promoting from the inside outwards [18:56] really? that's neat and unheard of in KZN [18:56] my mine in hluhluwe is too. [18:57] ok people, I am going to end the meeting now [18:57] any sign of normality would be good [18:57] maaz meeting end [18:57] maiatoday: What? [18:57] maaz end meeting [18:57] ty maiatoday [18:57] Meeting Ended [18:57] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-06-20-17-34-15.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-06-20-17-34-15.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-06-20-17-34-15.html [18:57] ty [18:57] whoot [18:57] great meeting [18:57] hmmm... that was the strangest meeting ever... felt more like a free for all :p [18:57] lol [18:57] the end of it was [18:57] experiential meet [18:58] meeting mash [18:58] but also there wasn't any agenda points [18:58] oogway: where are you? [18:58] sometimes a bit of freedom can be very productive [18:58] thanks for making it everybody, it was very short notice [18:58] I think we need to ask people to put up points for discussion [18:58] at least to remind them [18:58] drubin: bit sick @ home [18:58] :) [18:58] :( [18:58] I off, ty [18:58] maiatoday: when's the next one? [18:58] thanks to reminding us marcog [18:58] im off [18:59] in a months time [18:59] maiatoday: that was actually drubin [18:59] good idea [18:59] it is supposed to be on the ical [18:59] for some reason today's wasn't [18:59] it was there at the time of the last meeting though [18:59] and that's how i totally forgot about it [18:59] * afrodeity gets into its silicon shorts and jets away [18:59] hmmm I actually want someone to be master or mistress of meeting reminders [19:00] * marcog was thinking the same [19:00] bye [19:00] kbmonkey don't you wanna make sure we remember the meeting, check the ical and send a reminder on the list? [19:00] maaz, goodbye [19:00]