[00:00] <GWild> cjaredrun: correct - I cannot select a res higher than that
[00:00] <OerHeks> soothsayer, to make a xorg > sudo Xorg -configure
[00:00] <GWild> cjaredrun: but typically run 1680x1050.....
[00:00] <cjaredrun> GWild: it just randomly started doing this?
[00:00] <u19809> HI all I am unable to mount usbfs in natty ... it says it does not know the filesystemtype ... ????
[00:01] <GWild> yes - never did it before - just after I powered it down for a few days
[00:01] <GWild> cjaredrun: yes - never did it before - just after I powered it down for a few days
[00:01] <harushimo> anyone the answer to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/629599/
[00:01] <Skaag> Dulak: may very well be!
[00:01] <cjaredrun> have you run any updates GWild
[00:01] <trism> harushimo: install python3 and run it in the terminal as python3 (the default python will remain because it is needed by other programs)
[00:01] <GWild> cjaredrun: I'm running them now
[00:02] <cjaredrun> i was thinking maybe an update messed with your x conf, but maybe an update will fix it as well
[00:02] <diytto> I pressed ctrl alt f1 and went to tty, but hot do i restart the gui?
[00:02] <harushimo> trism: from the ubuntu or python.org?
[00:02] <soothsayer> OerHeks: Thanks. However when I run that I get "number of created screen does not match number of detected devices"
[00:02] <trism> harushimo: sudo apt-get install python3;
[00:02] <GWild> cjaredrun: hope so
[00:02] <trism> harushimo: so yes, from the ubuntu repos
[00:03] <harushimo> i'll do that. how I start the interpreter?
[00:03] <rinkukokiri> can ANYONE help me mount a disk that won't show up in sudo fdisk -l?
[00:03] <Zelda> I need help with my HDMI port on the computer. Its part of the MOBO but the computer didnt recognize it when I installed LInux
[00:03] <trism> harushimo: run: python3; in a terminal
[00:03] <Zelda> It runs in Windows 7 fine.
[00:03] <soothsayer> rinkukokiri: sudo mount /dev/DEVICEPARTITION MOUNTPOINT
[00:04] <harushimo> perfect
[00:04] <rinkukokiri> soothsayer, read my problem again
[00:04] <OerHeks> soothsayer, it is a basic xorg, make a backup before you edit .
[00:04] <Zelda> running 11.04
[00:04] <harushimo> thank you. it works
[00:04] <diytto>  I pressed ctrl alt f1 and went to tty, but hot do i restart the gui?
[00:04] <Raikia> Hey, so, I want to install the core OS of ubuntu to a solid state drive, but then have all the programs installed onto a regular harddrive.  What folder should I put on the other harddrive?  /var? /etc? or what?  Where is the CORE OS files that don't really change, vs installed files.
[00:04] <rinkukokiri> soothsayer, specifically the "WONT SHOW UP IN SUDO FDISK -L" part
[00:04] <leftist> i'm curious that when i look at the filesystem in system monitor it shows free 8.1gib but only available 2.6gib. where are the other gig or how are they allocated?
[00:05] <soothsayer> rinkukokiri: Take it easy, I missed the '-l' flag
[00:05] <harushimo> I need to setup eclipse with python3
[00:05] <diytto>  I pressed ctrl alt f1 and went to tty, but hot do i restart the gui?
[00:05] <phaedra> diytto: alt-f7 should do it
[00:05] <soothsayer> in fact I read fstab and not fdisk
[00:05] <d9500> Raikia, that's going to be difficult with the way *nix scatters the parts of a program all over the various directories.
[00:05] <Zelda> The computer doesnt recognize the HDMI hardware. Running Nvidia Quadro 570FX card.
[00:06] <rinkukokiri> wow.
[00:06] <Raikia> d9500: I figured....is there any hope or not?
[00:06] <d9500> Raikia, /usr, /usr/lib, /bin...those may be some of them. there's a reason it takes a package manager tot track tbhhat stuff
[00:06] <d9500> Raikia, you may want to try somethig like pcbsd or chakra instead.
[00:06] <Raikia> hmm...what are those?
[00:07] <Raikia> ah
[00:07] <Raikia> nvm
[00:07] <rinkukokiri> can someone help me mount a disk that won't show up in 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[00:07] <harushimo> would have two different version of python on the system? do anything?
[00:08] <soothsayer> OerHeks: What is a basic xorg.conf? The command failed
[00:09] <Nobgul-BNC> harushimo, I don't think so.
[00:10] <lulu> hi everybody
[00:10] <lulu> need some help
[00:10] <Spynxic> How do you log into a ftp server through commandline?
[00:11] <Nobgul-BNC> Don't ask if you can ask a question, just ask the question =)
[00:11] <[an]droidman> !help | lulu
[00:11] <harushimo> how to setup eclipse to recognize python3? I have it installed that is why
[00:11] <Wally> !pie
[00:11] <Nobgul-BNC> Spynxic, same syntax as ssh i think.  fpt -u username -p pass host
[00:11] <lulu> thanks a lot! got a prob since my last update...can't connect to my wi-fi
[00:12] <iocor> is the ubuntu messenger back (the current one on the shop) actually an ogio hiphop?
[00:12] <Nobgul-BNC> lulu, have you checked the additional drivers section under administration
[00:12] <Spynxic> Nobgul-BNC: thank you
[00:12] <Nobgul-BNC> Spynxic, if not you can type man ftp
[00:12] <lulu> how to?
[00:13] <Nobgul-BNC> In the adminstration menu there is a option additional drivers.
[00:13] <Nobgul-BNC> If your using ubuntu classic, if your using unity you can Search for Additional drivers
[00:13] <lulu> ok, I only see some nvidia drivers
[00:13] <lulu> for 3d accelerations
[00:14] <K1ng> can anyone help me fix this problem? paste.ubuntu.com/629603
[00:14] <lulu> I found some threads on some forums and I did what they said...it didn't fix the problem
[00:14] <K1ng> i used apt-get install ssh
[00:14] <lulu> http://www.collectiontricks.it/forum/gnu-linux/Ct3213-wireless-ubuntu-11-04-amilo-a1650g.html
[00:15] <lulu> it's in it, but still, you can see the command I run
[00:15] <rinkukokiri> can someone PLEASE help me mount a disk that won't show up in 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[00:16] <Nobgul-BNC> lulu, try typing ifconfig and see what it picks up there.
[00:16] <lulu> ok, I'll let you know
[00:16] <rinkukokiri> nvm i give up
[00:17] <Nobgul-BNC> kk
[00:17] <lulu> may I caopy it?
[00:17] <lulu> copy*
[00:17] <Nobgul-BNC> If no one answers that is because we don't know or we are busy helping other people.
[00:17] <Nobgul-BNC> lulu, use pastebin
[00:17] <lulu> how to use it?
[00:17] <lulu> sorry, newbie...
[00:17] <Nobgul-BNC> paste.ubuntu.com
[00:18] <Nobgul-BNC> just paste and submit then copy the url and paste here
[00:18] <lulu> 10X!!!
[00:18] <lulu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/629606/
[00:19] <Nobgul-BNC> Not what i was hoping for lol.
[00:19] <thezman60> hi everyone Im real new to xchat so anything you think may help I would welcome
[00:19] <Nobgul-BNC> lulu, When you unplug the ethernet and reboot, when the computer comes back is the wireless there?
[00:20] <NegativeOne> Hello
[00:20] <lulu> there's a ! near the wifi symbol
[00:20] <thezman60> hi negativeone
[00:20] <lulu> it's there but it' not working
[00:20] <Nobgul-BNC> Ok when you try to use it what happens?
[00:21] <lulu> it doesn't find anything
[00:21] <lulu> so i ask for a new connection
[00:21] <lulu> there I can find mine
[00:21] <Nobgul-BNC> >_< , I have the same problem with my laptop. I have to switch users then it works.
[00:21] <lulu> but it's unable to connect
[00:21] <NegativeOne> Does anyone have any insight on why Compiz may not be working in 11.04 even though it was working in 10.08 (or whatever the previous version was) ?
[00:21] <Nobgul-BNC> NegativeOne, not using the restricted drivers after update?
[00:22] <NegativeOne> Restricted drivers?
[00:22] <NegativeOne> I'm using the one listed as "recommended" in the Additional Drivers dialog
[00:22] <Nobgul-BNC> kk
[00:23] <K1ng> someone please help me with installing openssh-server
[00:23] <K1ng> paste.ubuntu.com/629603
[00:23] <haddiman> I'm using the Ubuntu live CD to run ClamAV (through ClamTk) on a Windows hard drive. I left it running and when I came back and shook the mouse all I see is a black screen and cursor. I can move the cursor with the mouse and I can get do different consoles by doing "ctrl+alt+f1". The hard drive activity LED is still blinking so I'm pretty sure ClamAV is still running. Is there any way I can get back to the main desktop and to ClamT
[00:23] <iceroot> haddiman: ctrl + alt + f7
[00:24] <Nobgul-BNC> NegativeOne, I don't use it because there is no need for me but are you changing settings via ccsm?
[00:24] <NegativeOne> i've installed the compiz config manager, and i've tried doing stuff like compiz --replace and unity --reset, but they just crash my computer
[00:24] <haddiman> iceroot: yea, all I see is a black screen and the cursor (which I can move)
[00:24] <LordXe-gnu> fwiw, once you're in a VC you shouldn't need to press ctrl... just alt+Fn should do it
[00:24] <Nobgul-BNC> Can you launch the gui for the ccsm?
[00:24] <NegativeOne> Nobgul-BNC, yes I am. It doesn't look like compiz is running though if I do ps -ax | grep compiz
[00:24] <LordXe-gnu> only need the ctrl from X
[00:25] <iceroot> haddiman: check top if %io is high, then clamav is still running. also why not run clamav from the shell instead from the gui?
[00:25] <Nobgul-BNC> NegativeOne, weird.
[00:25] <NegativeOne> Nobgul-BNC, yes I can launch the gui
[00:25] <bonixavier> I need to trick the alternate cd to think that sda6 is the cdrom. how can I do that?
[00:25] <Nobgul-BNC> NegativeOne, Sorry like I said i don't use it, so my knoledge is limited.
[00:25] <NegativeOne> Thanks anyway ;)
[00:26] <bonixavier> is there anything similar to debian advanced install?
[00:26] <tieinv> +* 6`\/
[00:26] <tieinv> 7\
[00:27] <haddiman> iceroot: Because I'm a noob and I now realized that that was probably a better way to do it since I know X on the LiveCD can unreliable. What do you mean by "check top if %io is high"?
[00:27] <iceroot> haddiman: in the console type "top"
[00:28] <Nobgul-BNC> K1ng, there is a sudo command errr  sudo apt-get install -f openssh-server.
[00:28] <Nobgul-BNC> i am not sure where the -f goes but that forces the install i think.
[00:29] <K1ng> Nobgul-BNC, it does not work
[00:29] <Nobgul-BNC> doah
[00:29] <haddiman> iceroot: Well I see clamscan is running and using most of the CPU.
[00:29] <Nobgul-BNC> did you run a audo apt-get update?
[00:29] <Logan_> *sudo
[00:29] <iceroot> haddiman: then everything is fine
[00:29] <Nobgul-BNC> thank you Sudo*
[00:29] <K1ng> yes
[00:30] <haddiman> iceroot: If I did "ctrl+alt+backspace",would that end the clamscan process?
[00:30] <Nobgul-BNC> I am loged into windows, and this may be a stupid question. but have you tried the package manager to install it?
[00:30] <iceroot> haddiman: yes but ubuntu has disabled it
[00:30] <iceroot> !dontzap | haddiman
[00:31] <Zelda> what driver do I need to help me get my HDMI working?
[00:32] <Zelda> Im using nvidia driver 172
[00:32] <Zelda> Heres the kicker this isnt attached to my gfx card. Its on the mobo.
[00:32] <Zelda> running a HP 8510w
[00:33] <Nobgul-BNC> K1ng
[00:33] <Nobgul-BNC> I am loged into windows, and this may be a stupid question. but have you tried the package manager to install it?
[00:33] <K1ng> you mean synaptic?
[00:33] <K1ng> yes
[00:33] <Nobgul-BNC> =/
[00:34] <ank_utpy06> hi every one
[00:34]  * ubuntu__ waves
[00:34] <ubuntu__> I'm running a 10.10 livecd
[00:35] <Nobgul-BNC> I dunno K1ng, try installing ssh first then the server..
[00:35] <tommylommy2> I've install the lvm2 package, but I don't know what to do to get the system to detect the lvm on the disk
[00:35] <tommylommy2> any hints?
[00:35] <K1ng> Nobgul-BNC, doesnt work
[00:35] <Nobgul-BNC> >_<
[00:36] <mkquist> anyone here using bumblebee?
[00:36] <Logan_> Zelda: Have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6982902&postcount=3  You may need to run the latest 173 driver, or the beta one that is linked.
[00:36] <Logan_> !anyone | mkquist
[00:37] <froq> so I downloaded amarok... and I don
[00:37] <froq> t get it
[00:37] <Nobgul-BNC> K1ng, Only other thing i can think of is to compile it yourself
[00:37] <Zelda> thanks Ill try the HP Linux forums. since Im not getting help here.
[00:37] <K1ng> Nobgul-BNC, i was thinking about it too
[00:38] <Logan_> !details | froq
[00:38] <Nobgul-BNC> Not always the easiest way but it will get the job done atleast.
[00:38] <Logan_> Zelda: Did you see what I wrote just before?
[00:38] <froq> Logan_, ok I will as I get more understanding of my problem. sorry
[00:39] <Logan_> froq: No problem.
[00:40] <Nobgul-BNC> K1ng, I know there is another ssh server in the repos... Can't think of the name but apt-cache search openssh-server   should give you the answer
[00:40] <Nobgul-BNC> its like ssh-krb85 or somthing weird
[00:41] <Logan_> K1ng: What is the result of uname -a
[00:42] <K1ng> pastebin id: 629617
[00:42] <froq> i miss iTunes... that is a hard one to give up coming from Mac.
[00:42] <K1ng> paste.ubuntu.com/629617
[00:42] <tommylommy2> Hi, I'm trying to get ubuntu-10.10-livecd to detect an ext4 filesystem on lvm. I've install the lvm2 package, but I don't know what to do to get the system to detect the lvm on the disk...
[00:42] <K1ng> froq, itune sucks
[00:42] <tommylommy2> Any hints?
[00:42] <froq> anyone know of a program to help me minimize my loss?
[00:43] <froq> K1ng, what do you use?!  I liked having the album artwork. and that be it and when I clicked that it showed me potential songs to play.
[00:43] <Logan_> K1ng: That wasn't very helpful.
[00:43] <var9> ok guys
[00:43] <froq> Logan_, yeah, haha, not helpful. :)
[00:43] <K1ng> Logan_, paste.ubuntu.com/629617
[00:43] <Logan_> !players | froq
[00:43] <var9> on my 3rd broadcom wireless card
[00:43] <var9> reinstalled
[00:43] <var9> ubuntu still cant see it in lspci
[00:43] <Logan_> froq: One of those ought to be as good/better than iTunes.
[00:43] <Logan_> !enter | var9
[00:43] <froq> Logan_, thanks logan, however I want to here what other people prefer.
[00:43] <Logan_> !poll | froq
[00:43] <K1ng> froq, vlc ftw :)
[00:44] <chrisf> froq: banshee or rhythmbox are close to itunes in interface style.
[00:44] <froq> chrisf, ok.  thanks
[00:44] <Nobgul-BNC> I think froq, may mean for loading music onto a ipad/pod/phone
[00:44] <var9> someone please help ubuntu cannot discover my wireless card
[00:44] <var9> i've tried almost everything
[00:44] <froq> Nobgul-BNC, no, just for general playing of music when using my computer.
[00:45] <chrisf> froq: banshee is the default
[00:45] <froq> I enjoy playing single albums @ a time and often switching to my favorite song and then moving on to my next favorite song... but from my past set up I know where my songs are by the cover art so I can quickly get there, and that is were I have found lacking program.s
[00:46] <var9> as much as i enjoy stumping u guys
[00:46] <var9> i really need this fixed!
[00:47] <chrisf> var9: pastebin the output of dmesg
[00:47] <saidian> Hello. I'm having trouble mounting a Mac share on Ubuntu server and was wondering if anyone could help out?
[00:47] <chrisf> var9: if the card doesnt show up in lspci, something is wrong near the *bottom* of the stack.
[00:49] <froq> so I did, "sudo apt-get install xmms2" and it d/l & installed, however it is not showing up ounder the application menu (running ubuntu 10.04)
[00:50] <iceroot> saidian: what is it? nfs? cifs?
[00:51] <szal> froq: XMMS2 is not a traditional-style player application, it's more like a server, similar to mpd, and needs a client to do the actual playing
[00:51] <szal> froq: or, better put, for controlling XMMS2
[00:51] <var9> yea
[00:52] <froq> szal, what client do you recommend?!
[00:52] <saidian> iceroot: On the Mac, shared as samba. Was working then broke about a week ago. mount -a gets an "error 22"
[00:52]  * szal can't recommend any since he never used XMMS2
[00:52] <froq> szal, I  am @ the website, and it mentions that the install comes with a gtk client (wouldn't this be a GUI client?)
[00:53] <termsilv> Hello, is anyone here a software developer :)
[00:53] <chrisf> froq: it depends on what you want, but xmms2 is about as different from itunes as you can get ;)
[00:53] <iceroot> saidian: can other machines mount the share? or maybe the settings on the mac are corrupt
[00:53] <saidian> can mount it from Win 7 laptop
[00:53] <prower> hello :> i have a cd/dvd burner that is capable of burning dvd's at 16x (in linux, i've tried it under fedora using k3b and had no issues). however, in ubuntu, since around version 9.04, the fastest burning speed i can get out of it is 4x. is there something that i need to change? a group membership, configuration file somewhere? the problem is specific to ubuntu, i've used several other distributions and windows 7 and it's worked fine in all of them
[00:53] <iceroot> termsilv: this is the ubuntu-support channel, if you need support with ubuntu use this channel, if you have questions about a language use the language-channel e.g. ##c++
[00:54] <K1ng> omg i cant even compile openssh
[00:54] <K1ng> THAT SUCKS
[00:54] <froq> chrisf, ok okay. lol... ... I think I am liking this exaile
[00:54] <FloodBot1> K1ng: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:54] <iceroot> K1ng: there is no reason to compile openssh
[00:54] <K1ng> iceroot, i cant apt-get it
[00:54] <iceroot> K1ng: why?
[00:54] <termsilv> thanks iceroot
[00:54] <K1ng> paste.ubuntu.com/629603
[00:54] <rrn> Is the package "ubuntu-desktop" important? For some reason it was removed when I removed nvidia-common.
[00:55] <chrisf> K1ng: what are you actually trying to do?
[00:55] <Nobgul-BNC> Install openssh-server
[00:55] <Nobgul-BNC> ^^
[00:55] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | rrn
[00:55] <termsilv> I do have a Ubuntu help question though, if someone doesn't mind helping.  I have a ".run" file I'd like to execute... How do I do that?
[00:55] <iceroot> K1ng: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[00:55] <Dulak> rrn: it's a meta package, not a huge deal, but you wan to reinstall it if you upgrade
[00:55] <soreau> rrn: You probably want it if you use ubuntu's desktop
[00:55] <iceroot> K1ng: if that brings errors, please paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[00:55] <Jordan_U> termsilv: Generally, you don't. What are you actually trying to install?
[00:56] <K1ng`> wow
[00:57] <K1ng`> chrisf, i am trying to install openssh-server
[00:57] <iceroot> K1ng: please do what i said
[00:57] <K1ng`> please say again
[00:57] <iceroot> K1ng: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[00:57] <iceroot> K1ng: if that brings errors, please paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[00:58] <termsilv> Jordan_U its a pen-testing software.  (im interested in network security)
[00:58] <K1ng`> already did that... i will give you the sources.list
[00:58] <Jordan_U> termsilv: What is the name of the software?
[00:58] <iceroot> K1ng: and the putput of "cat /etc/issue"
[00:58] <iceroot> output
[00:58] <soreau> termsilv: You can use /path/to/script.run or sh /path/to/posix-script.run after making the file executable
[00:58] <szal> putput :o
[00:58] <K1ng`> pastebin id: 629620
[00:58] <iceroot> :)
[00:59] <szal> K1ng`: full URL please, for convenience
[00:59] <termsilv> soreau, do I need to change permissions on the script to make it executable?
[00:59] <termsilv> wait, I think I understand >.<
[00:59] <K1ng`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/629620/
[00:59] <soreau> termsilv: But it's typically better to exhaust the possibility that there is a deb package in the repos or elsewhere
[00:59] <iceroot> K1ng`: sudo apt-cache policy openssh-server
[00:59] <K1ng`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/629621/
[01:00] <soreau> iceflatline: why sudo?
[01:00] <soreau> iceroot: why sudo?
[01:00] <termsilv> soreau, okay thanks a lot. I'll be sure to check for it
[01:00] <krzysz00> Guys, I have an Nvidia Geoforce 8300. At a random time after boot (either < 3min or a good many hours after), the screen starts flickering black rapidly and there is a nearly-complete system lockup (nearly meaning the only thing that works is the magic SysRq). This happens on both available versions of the driver. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:00] <iceroot> soreau: reflex, always typing sudo if using apt-
[01:00] <soreau> termsilv: I think that is what Jordan_U is trying to help with. What is the name of the package?
[01:00] <Jordan_U> Mod-R-Focker: Please choose a more apropriate nick.
[01:00] <K1ng`> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629622/
[01:01] <NegativeOne> Does anyone here have any experience with getting compiz to run on 11.04?
[01:01] <Jordan_U> !anyone | NegativeOne
[01:01] <termsilv> it's called metasploit (I'm sure you've heard of it).  I'm using it at-home
[01:01] <soreau> ! metasploit
[01:01] <iceroot> K1ng`: strange never saw http://bd.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[01:02] <iceroot> K1ng`: did you set that?
[01:02] <K1ng`> yeah.
[01:02] <K1ng`> its for my country
[01:02] <iceroot> !info openssh-server
[01:02] <NegativeOne> Jordan_U, I don't see the sense in taking up the chat space if nobody is even interested in helping. But since you've taken the initiative... that's basically my question.
[01:02] <NegativeOne> I can't get compiz to run, and i'm on 11.04, x64. Everything else is details
[01:02] <iceroot> K1ng`: you did not run "sudo apt-get update"
[01:02] <termsilv> !metasploit
[01:02] <termsilv> woops srry
[01:03] <iceroot> K1ng`: your repo/packages-file hav an older version
[01:03] <K1ng`> did few times
[01:03] <Jordan_U> NegativeOne: It saves both time and space if you start with the details straight out.
[01:03] <NegativeOne> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10958204
[01:03] <kandinski> anyone here is French and can help me in a prvmsg?
[01:03] <K1ng`> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629625
[01:03] <szal> !fr | kandinski
[01:03] <Jordan_U> !fr | kandinski
[01:03] <iceroot> K1ng`: then choose another repo. the repo you are using is not the current one
[01:03] <NegativeOne> those are my details. Mainly, i can do compiz --replace, but it crashes the UI
[01:03] <kandinski> Jordan_U: ta
[01:03] <K1ng`> iceroot, how do i change the repo?
[01:04] <Nobgul-BNC> K1ng` I can log over to ubuntu and post ime if you need it
[01:04] <szal> K1ng`: easiest: change the country code to something else
[01:05] <K1ng`> szal, how do i do that? :P
[01:05] <szal> K1ng`: with a text editor
[01:05] <K1ng`> szal, should i remove the bd.?
[01:05] <termsilv> Does anyone know of an Ubuntu "Web/Network security" channel?  I've checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList but don't see anything.  Maybe I'm missing it though
[01:05] <iceroot> K1ng`: sounds very strange, openssh-server was updates some time ago and your repo still have the old version
[01:05] <K1ng`> :(
[01:05] <szal> K1ng`: that would give you the main servers & is not particularly recommended; better use a country code of a country near you
[01:06] <szal> what is bd anyway?
[01:06] <K1ng`> bangladesh
[01:06] <szal> tried India (in)?
[01:06] <K1ng`> that would be world trip
[01:06] <K1ng`> :p
[01:06] <szal> lol
[01:08] <K1ng`> let me see which country our sub marine cable is conntected to
[01:08] <K1ng`> http://pastebin.com/5cw3J94v
[01:08] <soziety> anybodys know a good vpn client for ubuntu?
[01:08] <Nobgul-BNC> inda is right there..
[01:09] <Nobgul-BNC> india.
[01:09] <pfifo> What is the best mailing list from the debain project
[01:09] <iceroot> pfifo: #debian
[01:10] <K1ng`> Nobgul-BNC, http://whois.domaintools.com/213.144.181.125
[01:10] <K1ng`> Italy
[01:10] <Nobgul-BNC> >_<
[01:10] <pfifo> iceroot, what is the address?
[01:10] <Airris> hey. err. i thought this was a wine problem but apparently it's everything. so question goes here
[01:10] <szal> K1ng`: does everything go via that address?
[01:10] <iceroot> pfifo: /join #debian
[01:11] <Airris> I can't minimize or otherwise control fullscreen windows
[01:11] <Airris> none of the commands for minimizing or anything work (Ubuntu 10.04). This didn't used to happen, what'd i break?
[01:11] <pfifo> iceroot, ok done,  What is the best mailing list from the debain project
[01:11] <var9> chrisf, i cant even copy the entire thing
[01:11] <iceroot> pfifo: this is the wrong channel, this is not debian support
[01:12] <Nobgul-BNC> I always like seeing a user who takes responsibility for what they broke =)
[01:12] <iceroot> pfifo: ask the guys in #debian
[01:12] <jj995> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". ---- I'm getting this message on the terminal whenever I run an X application, e.g. gedit.  The X application works fine, but I'd like to get rid of this RANR message.  Any ideas?  I tried removing libxrandr2 from Synaptic, but it seems like tons of things depend on it that I want to kee
[01:12] <Airris> pfifo: #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org are amazing. They usually get back to you really fast
[01:12] <Airris> and i think they have a mailing list along the same name
[01:14] <iceroot> K1ng`: sudo sed -i 's/bd./us./' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:14] <iceroot> K1ng`: change us. to the country you like
[01:14] <saidian> iceroot: ok, I think it's cause I'm doing it wrong. I just tried "sudo mount -t cifs //{ip}/{share}/files ~/files -o username="anthony",password="*****"
[01:15] <pfifo> let me rephrase then, i f I as a ubuntu user nly want to receive email from a single debian project email, what is the best? (rephrasing to bestbot in #ubuntu-bots as well)
[01:15] <K1ng`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/629627/
[01:15] <iceroot> pfifo: this is NOT debian!!!
[01:15] <iceroot> pfifo: ask the guys about DEBIAN about THERE mailinglists
[01:15] <IdleOne> pfifo: this is #ubuntu if you want to know about debian mailing lists ask #debian.
[01:15] <K1ng`> :(
[01:16] <Nobgul-BNC> why the sad face king?
[01:16] <iceroot> K1ng`: c:\?
[01:16] <iceroot> K1ng`: ah ok
[01:16] <K1ng`> iceroot, i am using windows :p
[01:17] <iceroot> K1ng`: so what is the problem about my sed-command?
[01:17] <K1ng`> just showing the ping result
[01:17] <K1ng`> :)
[01:17] <K1ng`> nothing
[01:17] <saidian> iceroot: and got "mount error(22): invalid argument"
[01:17] <jj995> how can I disable XrandR?
[01:17] <K1ng`> just testing what is the best mirror
[01:17] <iceroot> K1ng`: first test if changing the mirror fixes your problem
[01:17] <Nobgul-BNC> K1ng`, this isnt a production server is it?
[01:17] <soziety> anybodys know a good vpn client for ubuntu?
[01:17] <Airris> Ok, so all of a sudden I can't minimize or otherwise control fullscreen windows. none of the commands for minimizing or anything work (alt-tab, alt-F9, alt-click) (Ubuntu 10.04). This didn't used to happen, what'd i break?
[01:18] <iceroot> soziety: depending the vpn you want to use
[01:18] <szal> K1ng`: good response times won't help if the mirror is outdated
[01:18] <K1ng`> Nobgul-BNC, no its not..
[01:18] <soziety> pptp or ipsec
[01:18] <K1ng`> indeed
[01:18] <K1ng`> it seems to be good :D
[01:18] <Nobgul-BNC> there is one called VPNclient
[01:18] <K1ng`> it mirror
[01:18] <K1ng`> ssh installed :D
[01:18] <iceroot> Nobgul-BNC: vpnclient is the non-free cisco client
[01:18] <K1ng`> yay
[01:18] <iceroot> K1ng`: great
[01:18] <Nobgul-BNC> congratz K1ng`
[01:19] <iceroot> K1ng`: but not nice that the mirrors are not sync
[01:19] <K1ng`> now what should i install for load balancing?
[01:19] <Nobgul-BNC> iceroot, i could have swore i saw it in the ubuntu repos >_<
[01:19] <K1ng`> iceroot, :(
[01:19] <iceroot> Nobgul-BNC: that can be
[01:19] <soziety> I need that I can configure if the vpn falling down the connection falling down too (sorry my english)
[01:19] <K1ng`> Nobgul-BNC, thanks
[01:19] <HelloWorld321> Um ... okay ... anybody got a clue why my Eclipse won't start up?  I'm in Unity.  I hit the Ubuntu menu logo in the upper-right corner.  I type in "Eclipse".  The blue Eclipse "World" icon shows up.  I click it ... and then I go back to the desktop and wait for nothing to happen.  What have I done to my Ubuntu install?
[01:19] <Nobgul-BNC> no worries, glad you got it sorted
[01:19] <iceroot> K1ng`: i will check when openssh-server was updated in natty, then i will greate a bug if it is more then 3 days
[01:20] <teage> If I upgrade I will loose my menu wont I? Its been modified.
[01:20] <K1ng`> :)
[01:20] <spanglesontoast>  does anyone know why a dell inspiron 1520 doesn't have wireless working even after installing the drivers ?
[01:21] <itaylor57> HelloWorld321, try typing eclipse in terminal and see what errors you get
[01:21] <HelloWorld321> itaylor57: tx
[01:21] <Airris> ok let's make this an easier question : what are all the ways i can get configuration screens for gnome?
[01:21] <Airris> I probably need to just flip on/off a setting somewhere
[01:22] <james_1313> I need help with this: The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly. Please contact your computer administrator.”
[01:22] <james_1313> I am booting from live usb
[01:22] <HelloWorld321> itaylor57: I get no message at all when I do that from the terminal
[01:23] <iceroot> what was the way to read the current changelog with apt from a package in the repo?
[01:23] <Nobgul-BNC> K1ng`, Thre is a linux program in the repos its just called ballance.
[01:23] <james_1313> allright, fine. i need help with mopunting a partition from live usb and then cleaning it up
[01:23] <james_1313> anyone?
[01:23] <Nobgul-BNC> Balance
[01:23] <iceroot> james_1313: cleaning?
[01:24] <K1ng`> thanks Nobgul-BNC. i will check it out
[01:24] <kr99> guys here's the pastebin for my wireless issues, please help me figure out why ubuntu can't even see the card(s) multiple diff cards tried...     http://pastebin.com/Ap3yhnkQ
[01:24] <james_1313> iceroot I have no idea what to do now, im having this problem The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly. Please contact your computer administrator.”
[01:24] <Airris> Ok, so all of a sudden I can't minimize or otherwise control fullscreen windows. none of the commands for minimizing or anything work (alt-tab, alt-F9, alt-click) (Ubuntu 10.04). This didn't used to happen, what'd i break? Someone at least tell me where all the configuration controls for gnome are so i can tinker with them
[01:24] <iceroot> james_1313: so you want to delete the config?
[01:25] <RonWhoCares> I am downloading and re-installing
[01:25] <iceroot> james_1313: you have the live-cd running?
[01:26] <kr99> chrisf: http://pastebin.com/Ap3yhnkQ
[01:26] <james_1313> iceroot: this is my issue http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/04/13/solved-unable-to-boot-due-to-gnome-power-manager-error/
[01:26] <szal> !repeat | Airris
[01:26] <RonWhoCares> will the partician remain untouched?  thereis a grub boot menu  I don't want windows removed
[01:26] <saidian> Does anyone have a correct mount running in fstab for a windows network share?
[01:26] <iceroot> james_1313: you are in the live-cd now?
[01:27] <james_1313> iceroot: live USB
[01:27] <itaylor57> HelloWorld321, so when you type in eclipse it just returns to the prompt?
[01:27] <iceroot> james_1313: check the output of "sudo fdisk -l" what your system partition from the real installation is
[01:28] <iceroot> james_1313: something like sdaX where X is the number i guess
[01:28] <HelloWorld321> itaylor57: yes, exactly.  No message at all.
[01:28] <HelloWorld321> itaylor57: I think it's doing something though ... the mouse moves jerky.  BUT the System monitor isn't showing anything with any CPU usage (highest CPU usage is the system monitor itself at 8%)
[01:29] <james_1313> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/2RvS4eqC
[01:29] <iceroot> james_1313: you can do this also without a live-cd
[01:29] <itaylor57> HelloWorld321, how did you install eclipse?
[01:29] <iceroot> james_1313: i guess its easier do use the real system. please start the real installation, then type ctrl + alt + f1 to go to the shell
[01:30] <HelloWorld321> itaylor57: I installed Eclipse from the Ubuntu Software Center.
[01:30] <HelloWorld321> itaylor57: I've run it before.  I'm trying to remember if I did anything to it since I last ran it ... I can't think of anything.
[01:30] <james_1313> iceroot: after i get to the shell, what then? do that command? i can start gparted if you want and give you a screenpic
[01:30] <iceroot> james_1313: after that, login with your username and type this "sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get install -f"
[01:30] <itaylor57> HelloWorld321, no idea then
[01:30] <kr99> can anyone help ubuntu wornt recognize my wireless card
[01:31] <HelloWorld321> itaylor57: tx4looking
[01:31] <iceroot> james_1313: after that it should work again
[01:31] <james_1313> iceroot: okay ill try that
[01:31] <james_1313> iceroot: thank you so much
[01:31] <K1ng`> how do i stop auto start gnome?
[01:32] <Airris> K1ng`, do you mean just start in commandline?
[01:32] <K1ng`> Airris, yes
[01:32] <Airris> there's got to be way to do that, probably in x config stuff, or ubuntu startup logic
[01:32] <IdleOne> !nox
[01:33] <neo2> hey all, currently getting hash sum mismatch when downloading packages from mirrors, including the ubuntu official ones. anyone know why?
[01:34] <iceroot> neo2: sudo apt-get update
[01:34] <neo2> iceroot: thanks, tried that, and the no-cache options
[01:35] <xeroxman112> anyone know of a tor channel ?
[01:35] <neo2> i have found that different mirrors seem to have different packages that have the issues
[01:36] <IdleOne> xeroxman112: #tor maybe
[01:36] <aussie114> hello, could someone please give me an example of this command completed "ln -s /mount/point/of/2nd/drive/.wine $HOME/.wine" I am not sure what the mount point is, is like /dev/sda1,2 3. computer:/// or /media
[01:36] <ginny> Anyone know a good resource for printing issues?
[01:37] <xeroxman112> idlesone , thanks but no luck.
[01:37] <xeroxman112> well, guess so, thanks idleone... !
[01:38] <skumara> sorry for the noob question. I can't get direct answer from google. I have few .MOV files and I want to delete the audio in the files and add a mp3 songs in the mov files. What software I can use?
[01:38] <iceroot> ginny: issues like?
[01:39] <james_1313> iceroot: still having the same issue. new error message though: usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check status 256
[01:39] <szal> aussie114: the mount point is the directory to which the drive is mounted, not the device node nor a network address
[01:39] <skumara> i have tried pitivi, openshot, kdenlive and cannot get it done!
[01:39] <iceroot> james_1313: at login?
[01:39] <james_1313> iceroot: yes
[01:39] <ginny> iceroot: I've got a Kodak 5250, got the latest cups drivers, test page prints in color, but photos do not.
[01:39] <ginny> Doesn't matter which photo editor. Tried 3 or 4 different ones.
[01:41] <iceroot> james_1313: ok 1 minute
[01:41] <K1ng> since i am no good with network config
[01:41] <K1ng> http://pastebin.com/D616EHXt
[01:41] <rawfodog> Hi. I'm using ubuntu 11. I don't really like the unity bar so I switched back to ubuntu classic. Thing is, I really like the windows mannerisms. Kind of like in windows 7 where windows auto resize and stuff like that. Is there something I can download that will give me those tricks, but on the old gnome WM ?
[01:42] <iceroot> james_1313: chmod 0777 /tmp
[01:42] <K1ng> i want eth0 and eth1 connected to internet. and all computer will be connected to eth2
[01:42] <iceroot> james_1313: again from the shell with your user
[01:42] <K1ng> you think my network configure is good?
[01:42] <james_1313> iceroot: ok
[01:42] <iceroot> K1ng: you want that the internet is used from eth0 AND wlan0 together to get more speed?
[01:43] <iceroot> K1ng: sorry, eth0 and eth1
[01:43] <K1ng> yes
[01:43] <var9> can anyone heklp me
[01:43] <iceroot> K1ng: ok, you want not balancing, you want bonding
[01:43] <neo2> rawfodog: i think compiz has those features in there somewhere
[01:43] <virtuoussin13> Does anyone have any experience with sound-juicer not displaying any formats supported for ripping? Ditto for rhythmbox
[01:43] <iceroot> !ask | var9
[01:43] <K1ng> iceroot, ok how do i do bonding?
[01:44] <Nobgul-BNC> Nic bonding?
[01:44] <iceroot> K1ng: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[01:44] <iceroot> ginny: sounds strange for me, sorry cant help you
[01:44] <virtuoussin13> I've checked, all my gstreamer packages are installed and up to date
[01:44] <dassouki> my netbook 10.04, is booting into grub :S . i triy to do linux /vmlinuz , init the latest init, and then boot, but it gets stuck either at kernel helper or at scsi reading of external drive (which doesn't exist)
[01:45] <var9> guys here's the pastebin for my wireless issues, please help me figure out why ubuntu can't even see the card(s) multiple diff cards tried...     http://pastebin.com/Ap3yhnkQ
[01:45] <ginny> iceroot: Yeah, it is strange. Probably a cups thing. Anyone know where to submit bugs/questions to cups driver devs?
[01:45] <rawfodog> k Ill check compiz
[01:45] <iceroot> ginny: i guess #cups is a good start
[01:46] <ginny> iceroot: Thanks, tried that, but #cups is invite only and ##cups no one is responding.
[01:47] <K1ng> iceroot, that docs is bit confusing
[01:47] <iceroot> ginny: :(
[01:47] <rita> hi
[01:47] <SoKoBaN> Hi everyone, I am trying to solve pretty random freezes of my old thinkpad.. last line in log .. /var/log/kernel.log "ipw2100: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart."
[01:47] <Nobgul-BNC> Hello rita.
[01:47] <rita> hello
[01:47] <ginny> iceroot: All good. Google doesn't have anything on the issue. Looks like an unresolved bug with 11.04 maybe.
[01:47] <iceroot> K1ng: yes but bonding is an advanced feature
[01:47] <ginny> iceroot: thanks for the help
[01:47] <rita> hola
[01:48] <iceroot> ginny: with other versions it was running?
[01:48] <Nobgul-BNC> Rita, do you need ubuntu support?
[01:48] <var9> o one?
[01:48] <K1ng> iceroot, can you help me write the etc/network/interfaces... its too confusing
[01:48] <var9> no
[01:48] <szal> SoKoBaN: sounds like a wireless module acting up
[01:48] <iceroot> K1ng: you can use the examples from there just replace the ips
[01:48] <ginny> iceroot: tbh, I'm a ubuntu noob. Just swapped about a week ago.
[01:48] <scream> I have Natty, after a recent update, my flash in FireFox four stopped working.
[01:48] <iceroot> K1ng: the rest with eth0/1 is ok
[01:48] <scream> Any ideas?
[01:48] <james_1313> iceroot: nope
[01:49] <iceroot> james_1313: restartet?
[01:49] <K1ng> oh ok
[01:49] <james_1313> didnt work
[01:49] <james_1313> iceroot: didnt 3work
[01:49] <K1ng> iceroot, bond-slaves eth1 eth2
[01:49] <SoKoBaN> szal: Probably, I am not sure if this is an cause..
[01:49] <iceroot> james_1313: is it a fresh install? or do you have important settings done to gnome?
[01:49] <K1ng> eth1 and eth2 will be connected to the internet?
[01:50] <rita> my webcam does,nt work......What Can I do??
[01:50] <scream> I have Natty, after a recent update, my flash in FireFox 4 stopped working.  Any ideas?
[01:50] <james_1313> iceroot: i read that it might be caused by too much data, and that might be the case (stupid duplicating mistake)... could i mount the drive and erase some of the duplicated files?
[01:51] <james_1313> iceroot: not a fresh install
[01:51] <iceroot> K1ng: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinkAggregation  this is for eth0/1
[01:51] <iceroot> K1ng: sorry
[01:51] <Airris> so can anyone tell how do actually do a nox boot? The !nox reponse is very helpful... for configuring GRUB1. everyone's using grub2 now though
[01:51] <iceroot> james_1313: you dont need to mount you can access everything from the shell
[01:51] <iceroot> james_1313: let me have a look
[01:52] <user_> how to use rescapp?
[01:52] <K1ng> iceroot, no. thanks. :D
[01:52] <user_> hellp
[01:52] <james_1313> iceroot: what do you need to look at?
[01:53] <K1ng> iceroot, can i do iface bond0 inet dhcp?
[01:53] <iceroot> james_1313: sudo chmod 1777 /tmp/
[01:53] <user_> can anyone direct me on using rescapp to overwrite the leftover grub from ubuntu
[01:53] <iceroot> james_1313: please try that. the next step would be to move your gnome-config
[01:53] <virtuoussin13> I should add that all my music plays just fine...
[01:53] <user_> bump
[01:53] <iceroot> K1ng: you are using dhcp at your network?
[01:54] <K1ng> iceroot, yes. 2 modem. both of them are dhcp
[01:54] <iceroot> K1ng: then its fine
[01:54] <K1ng> :D
[01:56] <Airris> Ok, so all of a sudden I can't minimize or otherwise control fullscreen windows. none of the commands for minimizing or anything work (alt-tab, alt-F9, alt-click) (Ubuntu 10.04). This didn't used to happen, what'd i break? Someone at least tell me where all the configuration controls for gnome are so i can tinker with them
[01:56] <iceroot> Airris: f11 also not working?
[01:56] <Airris> iceroot, let me check
[01:57] <iceroot> Airris: it will resize the window
[01:57] <RJ_F1> Airris: I know this sounds stupid, but have you restarted? It usually fixes several things
[01:57] <Airris> iceroot,  no dice
[01:57] <Airris> RJ_F1, it's persisted across a couple restarts
[01:58] <K1ng> iceroot, http://pastebin.com/6pQijtsH you think its good?
[01:59] <iceroot> K1ng: looks good for me
[02:00] <K1ng> :D
[02:01] <scream> Anyone have any ideas?
[02:01] <scream> I have Natty, after a recent update, my flash in FireFox 4 stopped working.  Any ideas?
[02:02] <scream> Here is more detail to the issue...
[02:03] <scream> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/161992
[02:03] <dr_willis> flash is always a top 10 problem in this channel.. sadly.
[02:03] <scream> oh
[02:03] <Loekasjenko> hi there
[02:03] <scream> I'm not the only one then.
[02:04] <scream> I've tried reinstalling my flash packages, I am utterly frustrated.
[02:04] <dr_willis> ive not noticed it being a problem here.. but i dont use flash a lot
[02:04] <scream> Before Natty, everything worked...
[02:04] <scream> now... things are broken.
[02:04] <RJ_F1> Scream: downgrade to 10.10, then
[02:05] <iceroot> RJ_F1: please be more helpfull
[02:05] <scream> RJ_F1, thanks for the advice, that is easier said than done... not good advice my friend. :\
[02:05] <renfield33> network question:  i have 2 network cards usually eth0 and eth1, but eth0 intermittently becomes eth0-eth1 on reboot.  google has not been helpful.  any suggestions?
[02:05] <scream> If anyone has any ideas about this flash, let me know. :) Thank you for the time.
[02:05] <dr_willis> well flash is working here in google chrome on 32bit install. on youtube
[02:06] <dr_willis> actually i recall google-chrome having some sort of built-in flash you could also use.
[02:07] <K1ng> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629636/ :(
[02:07] <whiter> i have a problem... i have ubuntu 11.04, the ati/amd proprietary graphics driver.. and my cairo-dock with glx looks like this... http://i.imgur.com/jLTR9.png and theres no graphics effects (compiz is/was installed) and it wont let me choose "Extra" in the visual effects tab on appearances
[02:07] <bnice> question i installed ubuntu via the alternate installer and cant get it to see the ethernet cord connected to it
[02:07] <whiter> anyone know why?
[02:07] <aauthor> Hey, I'm sorry to ask but I can't find makedvd in Synaptic.  I have tovid installed, but I still don't have makedvd.  Any suggestions?
[02:08] <iceroot> renfield33: sudo mv /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules /etc/udev/70-persistent-net.rules      please try that and restart
[02:08] <dr_willis> whiter,  could be the drivers are installed. but not in use.
[02:08] <iceroot> K1ng: can you paste the output of "ifconfig"
[02:09] <dr_willis> !find makedvd
[02:09] <dr_willis> Hmm. catch 22 eh.
[02:09] <kakashi> hi , i have a python programme and would like to run it as a daemon on ubuntu ,it must be executed each 5minute. so can i do it without using contabe
[02:09] <dr_willis> kakashi,  you could make a script that sleeps for 5 min.. runs it.. then loops. yes.
[02:09] <dr_willis> but thats not really running as a daemon.
[02:09] <aauthor> Yeah, thanks dr_willis... I don't know if it's a bug or what.
[02:09] <dr_willis> daemons have other features.
[02:10] <dr_willis> aauthor,  i tend to use devede
[02:10] <renfield33> iceroot, isn't that just moving it onto itself?
[02:10] <iceroot> kakashi: why not cron?
[02:10] <iceroot> renfield33: no
[02:10] <HDYST> hi everyone :)
[02:10] <whiter> dr_willis, http://pastebin.com/N5H6X2wu tells me that its in use i think..
[02:10] <K1ng> iceroot, if want to pastebin it. i will have to write every line by myself :(
[02:10] <iceroot> renfield33: its putting it one dir up to its not executed on udev-start
[02:10] <renfield33> ahh... gotcha
[02:10] <iceroot> K1ng: :(
[02:10] <kakashi> because many time my server is busy so con is no very usefull
[02:11] <HDYST> :q
[02:11] <iceroot> K1ng: no ssh connection to that host so you can copy and paste?
[02:11] <K1ng> iceroot, i am getting only lo
[02:11] <bnice> question i installed ubuntu via the alternate installer and cant get it to see the ethernet cord connected to it anyone know how to fix this?
[02:11] <K1ng> iceroot, its got no network :(
[02:11] <aauthor> dr_willis thanks for the suggestion.
[02:11] <dr_willis> whiter,  what does jockey-gtk say about it being in use?
[02:11] <iceroot> K1ng: you have 3 nics in that pc? 2 connected to modems, on into your lan?
[02:12] <kexman> hi
[02:12] <hariykeyboard> do I have to logout and run under root in the terminal to perform a tarball backup of my root directory, or can I do it while logged in and running programs?
[02:12] <whiter> dr_willis, http://i.imgur.com/jLTR9.png
[02:12] <kexman> how could i turn my runnig (lamp + openssh) server to only the bare minimal ?
[02:13] <duckx0r> hariykeyboard, are you logged in as root?
[02:13] <kakashi> so?
[02:13] <iceroot> hariykeyboard: with root-directory you mean /root?
[02:14] <K1ng> iceroot, http://pastebin.com/iH9TXZ9Z
[02:14] <kakashi> must i do a sleep in the script of d=the daemon????
[02:15] <K1ng> iceroot, no its not connected
[02:15] <K1ng> only 1
[02:15] <iceroot> K1ng: then you will have eth0 eth0:1 eth0:2 instead of eth0 eth1 eth2
[02:16] <iceroot> K1ng: eth is always a real device, while eth0:1 is a virtual-device assigned to eth0
[02:16] <K1ng> ah
[02:16] <iceroot> K1ng: i dont know if bonding is working on virt-devices
[02:16] <iceroot> kakashi: i still dont get why cron is not the solution
[02:16] <K1ng> i will connect one more connection to eth0 and eth1
[02:16] <K1ng> i mean 2 connections to them
[02:17] <Astriano> hello any1 have a time to guide firs time user of linux?
[02:17] <iceroot> K1ng: hö? lo with 172.0.0.1? you mean 127.0.0.1?
[02:17] <iceroot> !ask | Astriano
[02:18] <kakashi> i dont know really but i try it but i dont get a good result when my server is busy
[02:18] <K1ng> iceroot, yes that a typo
[02:18] <K1ng> :p
[02:18] <iceroot> K1ng: ok
[02:18] <iceroot> K1ng: the first step should be to have more then 1 real nic
[02:19] <K1ng> what is nic?
[02:19] <iceroot> kakashi: */5 * * * * command   should do the job doesnt matter what load you have
[02:19] <rypervenche> Astriano: 你會中文嗎？
[02:19] <iceroot> kakashi: nic = network interface card
[02:19] <iceroot> K1ng: nic = network interface card
[02:20] <K1ng> ah
[02:20] <K1ng> iceroot, its got 3 nic.
[02:20] <K1ng> but only 1 connection
[02:20] <iceroot> K1ng: ok eth2 is your lan?
[02:20] <sudokill> in my .bashrc i have a little ascii pic that displays when i open the terminal. is there a way to make it coloured ascii?
[02:20] <kakashi> ok
[02:20] <iceroot> sudokill: #bash
[02:20] <kakashi> but if i wont to run it as daemon??? how can i do it
[02:21] <K1ng> yes. eth0 and eth1 will be forwarded to eth2
[02:21] <iceroot> K1ng: ok
[02:21] <iceroot> K1ng: so first setup eth2 to access the pc from your lan
[02:22] <iceroot> K1ng: sudo ifconfig eth2 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0; sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[02:22] <iceroot> K1ng: change the ips to your needs
[02:22] <K1ng> ok
[02:22] <iceroot> K1ng: the second on is your gateway
[02:22] <Nobgul-BNC> How do you restart the sound system? I closed a video and now the next one is scratchy?
[02:22] <rypervenche> boo
[02:23] <rypervenche> sorry, wrong window
[02:23] <Nobgul-BNC> nvm got it ty
[02:23] <iceroot> kakashi: my command is not running it as a daemon
[02:23] <renfield33> iceman, seems to be stable over at least 3 reboots, so looks like that fixed it.  thank you!
[02:23] <iceroot> kakashi: its just starting your programm every 5 minutes
[02:23] <renfield33> or, iceroot (sorry)
[02:23] <Astriano> i have download the xmms multimedia player, the file is .gz how do i install iT?
[02:23] <Nobgul-BNC> Astriano, thats like a .zip file you need to extract it first
[02:24] <iceroot> renfield33: fine. problem is that your bios is not detecting the nics always in the same order and the netrules file is for giving the eth names to the nics and its remembering there mac-adresses
[02:24] <iceroot> Astriano: isnt it in the repos?
[02:24] <kakashi> ok
[02:24] <Astriano> repos?
[02:24] <iceroot> !repo | Astriano
[02:25] <K1ng> iceroot, http://pastebin.com/z7w6ugvC
[02:25] <iceroot> Astriano: sudo apt-get install xmms2
[02:25] <iceroot> K1ng: and the place where eth0 eth1 and eth2 are meeting is your ubuntu-pc?
[02:26] <K1ng> iceroot, its digram of my ubuntu pc :p
[02:27] <iceroot> K1ng: ok so eth0/1 are using bonding. eth2 is just your lan
[02:27] <K1ng> eth0: WAN, eth1: WAN, eth2: share internet to LAN
[02:27] <K1ng> yes
[02:27] <esmirlin> hey guys how can i completly remove empathy (even all the configuration i did)
[02:27] <esmirlin> ¿?
[02:27] <iceroot> K1ng: first step should be to configure eth0,1 and 2 correcxtly without using bonding
[02:27] <iceroot> K1ng: that is a good base for further steps i guess
[02:27] <K1ng> ok
[02:28] <iceroot> esmirlin: maybe there is a dir called ~/.emphany ?  that you have to delee
[02:28] <iceroot> esmirlin: also using "sudo apt-get remove --purge emphany"
[02:28] <iceroot> K1ng: i have to sleep now :(
[02:29] <K1ng> ok
[02:29] <K1ng> good night :)
[02:29] <rypervenche> Astriano: Check your private messages.
[02:30] <esmirlin> iceroot, thanks hotty!^^
[02:30] <dr_willis> esmirlin,  apt-get will NOT remove the users config files in their home dir.
[02:30] <tech7> hey, i know that this sounds crazy, but i'm trying to create a custom launcher for my terminal..  what do i use for the command???/
[02:30] <dr_willis> tech7,  to do what exactly?
[02:30] <esmirlin> dr_willis,  so?
[02:30] <tech7> just open a terminal???
[02:30] <dr_willis> esmirlin,  'even all the configuration i did' -> wjhat do you mean by that
[02:31] <dr_willis> tech7 gnome-terminal is the default terminal command.
[02:31] <tech7> cool, thanks dr_willis
[02:31] <dr_willis> tech7,  you should be able to drag/drop it from the menu to the desktop
[02:31] <dr_willis> or from panel to desktop. or somehow.
[02:31] <tech7> i'm trying to make a keyboard shortcut on my xfce interface
[02:32] <dr_willis> xfce uses xfterm or xfterminal by default
[02:32] <dr_willis> You can use any of the terminal apps you want.
[02:32] <esmirlin> dr_willis, like all the folders and all configuration, as if i never installed it
[02:32] <tech7> yeah, but the default xfterm really kinda stinks..  i like using the gnome better..
[02:33] <dr_willis> esmirlin,  apt-get handles system config and system files. Not users home/personal configs.. if you need to erase those. You will need to find them and delete them by hand
[02:33] <dr_willis> xfce dosenthave the drag/drop support i think.. one of the reasons i dont care much for xfce
[02:33] <esmirlin> dr_willis, yes i know, but don't know where they are
[02:33] <tech7> thanks lovely people.. you all have a happy father's day
[02:34] <tech7> yeah, i like standard gnome much better, but i'm using a computer at work and i have to use virtualbox to run ubuntu of this machine..  since we 'exclusively' use windows software here
[02:35] <RJ_F1> tech7:consider liveCD
[02:36] <Nounou> TrD
[02:37] <hiexpo> sup
[02:37] <tech7> i've got plenty live cds..  but i need to keep the windows 7 running for other reasons.. i just boot up my virtualbox when it's time for me to get down to business :)
[02:37] <dr_willis> esmirlin,  you will have to exolore the various .XXXX files and dirs then  in your home
[02:37] <tech7> thanks guys
[02:37] <hiexpo> !windows
[02:39] <franklyn> hi
[02:39] <afaty> Hello, everyone, in ubuntu, how to check on the situation of runlevel services?
[02:40] <dr_willis> afaty,  the service command.
[02:40] <dr_willis> im not sure if the old sysv commands even work properly these days.
[02:42] <arooni-mobile> hi folks; getting a new lenovo t420 with 500gb hard drive.  wondering whats the best way to do ubuntu install it?  should i dual boot?  does windows 7 take up a lot of space?
[02:42] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  if you are lucky,. then windows wont be taking up 4 primary partitions like ive seen several new machines come with these days.. that can make installing linux a real pain.
[02:42] <olskolirc> ubuntu for ppc anyone?
[02:43] <afaty> How to use the command runlevel services on the situation? like redhat chkconfig - list
[02:43] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  use win7 to resize the hard drive partitions. leave part of the HD unallocated. and let ubuntu install to the unallocated space.
[02:43] <dr_willis> olskolirc,  every time ive ever used ppc linux. its always been very lacking.
[02:43] <dr_willis> afaty,  the service command has a list option
[02:43] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, how much space will i need to give to win7?  i only want to boot into for a few apps; and wont fill upstorage
[02:43] <olskolirc> got a link dr_willis ?
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> arooni-mobile: 50GB would be reasonable.
[02:44] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  no idea.  if you are resizeing  the windows partitions - it will depend on whats on it now.
[02:44] <dr_willis> !ppc
[02:44] <afaty> Example you can？
[02:44] <dr_willis> afaty,  service --help
[02:45] <arooni-mobile> tonyyarusso, and dr_willis ; i think if ihave a 500gb drive; its reasonable to keep 50gb of it for win7 ... seems useful?
[02:45] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  my current laptop has 2 500gb hd's in it. :)
[02:45] <dr_willis> it all deopens on what you are doing in windows.
[02:45] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, did you get rid of the cd drive?
[02:45] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  nope.. its a beast of a laptop
[02:46] <[an]droidman> arooni-mobile: i run xp with 30 gb for exactly the same reason
[02:46] <[an]droidman> only use 20 gb of it
[02:46] <dr_willis> i did not even realize it had a slot for a 2nd hd untill i got it home. :)
[02:46] <dr_willis> a 'preinstalled windows 7' proberly has a lot of cruft you can remove also.. then theres the system-restore partions and other disk wasters
[02:47] <afaty> I did not mean
[02:47] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, what do youhave?
[02:47] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  toshiba X505
[02:47] <dr_willis> its a back breaker
[02:47] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, luckily win 7 home doesnt come with system restore:0
[02:47] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  the laptop makers  proberly have some restore partitons on it.
[02:48] <arooni-mobile> so generally it seems wise not to completely wipe the win7 stuff off thedrive
[02:48] <arooni-mobile> when installing ubuntu
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> *probably
[02:48] <afaty> I mean how through the command / etc / rc.d / rc *. d / S * under the service.
[02:48] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  these days - with a new laptop - i often buy a new HD when i get it and clone the original to the new one.. and keep the original 'safe'   :)
[02:48] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  that way when i give/sell the laptop. i just swap the hd back.
[02:48] <dr_willis> in this case.. i found out i had space for both hd's  when i got home.
[02:49] <afaty> ls /etc/rc*.d/S*
[02:49] <afaty> like this
[02:49] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, smart man; cuz i totally wiped the hard drive ofmy t61 including windowspartitions
[02:49] <arooni-mobile> so selling it = more difficult
[02:49] <dr_willis> afaty,  you are not beinv very clear.. you can use 'ls -R '   if thats what you want.
[02:49] <twobitsprite> in winetricks, when you say you want to install a game, is there a way to point it to the installer you already downloaded instead of having it re-download the installer?
[02:49] <dr_willis> or was it ls -r
[02:50] <dr_willis> twobitsprite,  winetricks homepage/forum may know. or  the wine channel.. ive never tried its 'install a game option' yet.
[02:50] <dr_willis> twobitsprite,  or let it start to download.. see where its downloading to. stop it.. copy game file over to that location
[02:51] <twobitsprite> dr_willis: you know where the wine channel is? there's noone in #wine
[02:51] <dr_willis> !wine
[02:51] <afaty> I want in ubuntu view like redhat "chkconfig -- list" , the same output results.
[02:51] <LordXe-gnu> maybe #winehq?
[02:52] <dr_willis> afaty,  you will proberly have to write your own script then if you wan t output exactly like the redhat commands.
[02:52] <twobitsprite> dr_willis: thanks
[02:52] <dr_willis> afaty,  i doubt if many people in here even know what that output looks like.
[02:52] <mrapple> hello everyone, quick question... i have a user that has a running screen that i want multiple administrators to be able to resume at any time... so first they login as the user (sudo -iu username) and then they type screen -r, however, upon typing screen -r the error "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/12' - please check" appears. (sometimes its 12, or 2, or 3) any help on this one?
[02:52] <dr_willis> is redhat using Upstart yet? i recall some other big disrtos  planning on switching to it.
[02:52] <afaty> O, thank you.
[02:53] <arooni-mobile> so if i dual boot; is there a way to have it autopick ubuntu on startup?
[02:53] <mrapple> this recommends opening up /dev/pts/12 to the world (chmod 777) http://martincarstenbach.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/screen-fails-with-cannot-open-your-terminal-devptsx-please-check/
[02:53] <mrapple> but i have a feeling theres a beter, more secure way
[02:53] <dr_willis> mrapple,  you want several users to connect to the same screen session?   at the same time. I thought theres a screen option to do that.
[02:54] <dr_willis> actually same user connecting from diffent locations to the same session isent it..
[02:54] <mrapple> no
[02:54] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  grub will defauilt to ubuntu
[02:54] <mrapple> it doesnt have to be at the same time
[02:54] <mrapple> (they will run screen -dr, so it will detach other sessions)
[02:55] <dr_willis> mrapple,  thats how screen normally works.. im not sure  what would be the issue.. unless the sudo -iu is causing some issues.. try direct logging in as the user. or try  'login username' perhaps as a test
[02:56] <mrapple> forgot about the login command, thanks, will try!
[02:57] <dr_willis> old skool :)
[02:57] <dr_willis> bbl. work time
[02:57] <devral> im trying to setup freenx, and it gets all the way to "Setting up session", downloading info etc - then says 'Connection refused' what am i doing wrong?
[02:58] <onto> hi, I'm trying to compile for 32-bit from my 64-bit architecture but when I run './configure --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu "CFLAGS=-m32" "CXXFLAGS=-m32" "LDFLAGS=-m32"' as suggested here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3261909/build-32bit-on-64-bit-linux-using-a-configure-script I get configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:58] <onto> in the configure.log file the config exits with configure: exit 77
[02:59] <onto> Do I install libc6-dev-i386 ?
[02:59] <mrapple> noo dr_willis
[02:59] <mrapple> that prompts for the user's password
[02:59] <mrapple> when i want the admin's password
[03:00] <rawfodog> I'm planning a little trip. I was wondering if Ubuntu has any good calender software built in ?
[03:01] <z3r0n0id> hey guys
[03:01] <rawfodog> nm, I guess the calender ap has more stuff to it lol
[03:02] <paulo-henrique> quit
[03:02] <paulo-henrique> exit
[03:04] <whiter> i have a problem... i have ubuntu 11.04, the ati/amd proprietary graphics driver.. and my cairo-dock with glx looks like this... http://i.imgur.com/jLTR9.png and theres no graphics effects (compiz is/was installed) and it wont let me choose "Extra" in the visual effects tab on appearances
[03:04] <devral> i'm trying to setup freenx client, and it gets all the way to downloading the session information, but eventually fails with '
[03:04] <devral> ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 7022: Connection refused' -- what am i doing wrong?
[03:04] <mrdeb> whiter: compizsettings-manager
[03:05] <z3r0n0id> using live cd grub help.. need to reinstall.
[03:05] <Caonabo> I lost conexion on Ubuntu 10.04, Cable Model. It comes and go. When I restart the conexion fix
[03:05] <whiter> mrdeb, i have compiz settings manager installed, but it wont load when i click it to open
[03:06] <dsnyders> !media
[03:06] <mrdeb> whiter: hmm
[03:07] <whiter> mrdeb, this is the output i get.. http://pastebin.com/UT1FyeE5
[03:09] <whiter> i actually just saw that so let me research it
[03:09] <mrdeb> ok
[03:11] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I just picked up an LCD tv with a VGA input.  I want to attach a linux box to display downloaded video.  How do I run mplayer via ssh and yet have display on the TV?
[03:12] <whiter> okay, mrdbus, that only happens in root.. the regular error is this... thomas@ubuntu-vaio:~$ ccsm
[03:12] <whiter> Segmentation fault
[03:12] <whiter> thomas@ubuntu-vaio:~$
[03:14] <soreau> whiter: You should never run user apps as root
[03:15] <soreau> it can cause a lot of undesired behavior
[03:15] <devral> i'm trying to setup freenx client, and it gets all the way to downloading the session information, but eventually fails with '
[03:15] <devral> ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 7022: Connection refused' -- what am i doing wrong?
[03:15] <whiter> soreau i realize that.. i forgot i was in root.
[03:16] <Josesordo> someone here know write Chinese?
[03:16] <Lawlcat> Quick question! I'm running a simple minecraft server and I'd like to be able to create an account (or two) for someone to be able to SSH into the box, run a specific set of scripts (such as a restart script) and that's it. The script would have to kill the current running process of the minecraft server and then execute a ./start.sh, but how could I do this without granting each user admin/root access?
[03:16] <soreau> whiter: Well who knows what the problem is now
[03:17] <whiter> i'm pretty sure running it as root did nothing to it.. as it didn't even open
[03:17] <whiter> and this was the first time i did that.. it wasn't working before either
[03:18] <napster> Is it possible to install the latest single window gimp on ubuntu 11.04? I mean gimp version 2.7 or something like that...
[03:18] <Holiday> Lawlcat: create a login that launchs a script that uses something like fakeroot, or better use the same user number so it can kill -HUP the services
[03:19] <Holiday> That way when they log in the script runs and they log out... No access to a shell per say
[03:19] <Lawlcat> alright
[03:19] <Lawlcat> thanks!
[03:20] <mrapple> does anyone know why this work, how hacky it is, and if its actually safe?
[03:20] <mrapple> sudo sudo -iu username
[03:20] <mrapple> script /dev/null
[03:20] <mrapple> screen -r
[03:20] <soreau> whiter: Can you pastebin the output of 'python --version && dpkg -l | grep compiz'?
[03:20] <FloodBot1> mrapple: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:20] <dsnyders> !mplayer
[03:20] <soreau> mrapple: You should never do anything with sudo unless you know why
[03:21] <hamnegga> Anyone here know what file I can backup to save my panel configurations?
[03:21] <hamnegga> oh please soreau
[03:21] <whiter> soreau, http://pastebin.com/ERciyv7h
[03:21] <hamnegga> root all the time!
[03:22] <termsilv> is there anything wrong with being root all the time?
[03:22] <termsilv> seems like people don't think you should do that
[03:22] <Lawlcat> Oh another thing! when I do ps au, the command that starts the server is there under /bin/sh ./start, is there a way I can have a script find the PID of that instance no matter when it's ran, since the PID will change each time it's run?
[03:22] <t3ns41> #yii
[03:22] <soreau> whiter: Well there's your problem. You have compiz 0.8. and 0.9 packages mixed
[03:23] <whiter> ah i see.. and i just checked apt.. i have a bunch of stuff not yet upgraded
[03:23] <whiter> thanks soreau!
[03:23] <soreau> whiter: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:23] <soreau> oh cool
[03:23] <mrapple> soreau: yeah well, oops, heh
[03:23] <soreau> yea, upgrade should fix it
[03:23] <whiter> 11.4.. but it isn't completely upgraded
[03:23] <codygarver> termsilv, the most classic case for not being root all the time is that if you were infected by malicious software it wouldn't be able to do as much damage if you were just logged in as a normal user
[03:23] <codygarver> how do I change my theme in oneiric?
[03:24] <soreau> ! oneiric | codygarver
[03:25] <codygarver> thank you
[03:25] <Lewoco> How do I make gnome use xfwm4?
[03:26] <Lewoco> I tried setting WINDOW_MANAGER in .gnomerc but according to .xsession-errors something still insists on loading compiz
[03:26] <soreau> Lewoco: Which version of ubuntu?
[03:27] <Lewoco> soreau: natty I think
[03:27] <soreau> Lewoco: Look in gconf key /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/window_manager and change it to what you want there
[03:27] <napster> Is it possible to install the latest single window gimp on ubuntu 11.04? I mean gimp version 2.7 or something like that...
[03:28] <soreau> Lewoco: In addition, you might have to put xfwm4 --replace in gnome-session-properties
[03:28] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I just picked up an LCD tv with a VGA input.  I want to attach a linux box to display downloaded video.  How do I run mplayer via ssh and yet have display on the TV?
[03:29] <Wildinc> dsnyders: Launch mplayer and tell it what display to use and video
[03:29] <Starminn> When I play something through the mic input on my system, if goes straight through to the computer's speakers, but Audacity, etc. don't pick anything up. Ubuntu 10.10 32-bit, any assitance would be appreciated. :)
[03:30] <soreau> dsnyders: yea, just run something like 'SDL_VIDEO_FULLSCREEN_HEAD=1 DISPLAY=:0 mplayer /path/to/file.ext -fs -vo sdl'
[03:31] <Wildinc> Starminn: What is your chipset? Intel?
[03:32] <Starminn> Wildinc: I assume this would be under lspci -- but which option under that output is it?
[03:32] <Starminn> (But probably, yes. Most of the stuff on my system is Intel)
[03:32] <kev009> long time UNIX admin but new to ubuntu, is there a preferred backport kernel for 10.04LTS?  the stock one is not working well on my hardware.
[03:33] <Wildinc> Starminn: Read: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5910/sound-problem-on-dc-7800
[03:33] <termsilv> kev009, what is a backport kernel :)
[03:33] <rypervenche> kev009: Yes, you will need a specific PPA for that. I forgot the name though.
[03:33] <termsilv> (i am learning)
[03:33] <kev009> termsilv: sorry, backport is debian terminology I guess
[03:34] <rypervenche> kev009: Debian high-five! (on Debian Testing)
[03:34] <soreau> kev009: What is not working correctly?
[03:34] <improveupon> does anyone here use p2p for anything other than torrents?
[03:34] <rypervenche> improveupon: Such as?
[03:34] <improveupon> gnutella2
[03:35] <kev009> soreau: bonding driver sucks in 2.6.32 for my NICs
[03:35] <Starminn> Wildinc: Care to elaborate on what exactly I'm looking for on that page?
[03:35] <james_1313> I am booted into a live USB and I need to delete items from a mounted partition that says I dont have permission to edit it. anyone help me please?
[03:36] <soreau> kev009: Well you can use a kernel PPA to get a newer kernel.. do you know if it's been fixed?
[03:36] <Wildinc> kev009:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[03:36] <Wildinc> improveupon: What do you mean, torrenting is a form of p2p
[03:36] <hamnegga> Is it possible to download a dependency to a directory where your compiling an application and then remove it, so it isn't installed but found by configure?
[03:36] <soreau> james_1313: You would need to mount the partition rw (read/write) and have permissions to access the file system (if ext*)
[03:36] <james_1313> iceroot: I am booted into a live USB and I need to delete items from a mounted partition that says I dont have permission to edit it. anyone help me please?
[03:36] <kev009> soreau: likely, no problem on RHEL6 (they do crazy things to their .32, it's that kernel only in name and long term compat)
[03:37] <soreau> james_1313: What command is giving you what error? (pastebin it)
[03:37] <improveupon> sorry, let me change that to any protocol mldonkey uses other than bittorrent
[03:37] <james_1313> soreau: i dont know how to do it in command line, im using the gui filesystem....
[03:38] <soreau> james_1313: What operation are you trying to perform?
[03:39] <james_1313> soreau: i have a partition that is full and I cant boot into it. when I try to login it goes to the recovery boot screen and then loops me back when I try to log in. the problem, i think, is that the partition is way to full of stuff (a mistake on my part, duplicating files)
[03:40] <james_1313> soreau: so i am booted into a live usb and trying to remove files so i can get in
[03:40] <Wildinc> Starminn try and change the setting using HDA Analyzer
[03:41] <soreau> james_1313: Use 'mount' to see where your partition is mounted, then use 'sudo rm /path/to/mount/point/file/you/want/to/delete'
[03:41] <RobertWHurst> I'm having trouble configuring my second monitor. I am running Ubuntu 11.04, with unity enabled, and nvidia's 275 driver. The second monitor is a lower resolution than my main monitor. It is on the left side. I setup a new xorg.conf with the nvidia settings tool. After restarting gdm and X-Server the monitor is active, displaying the background image, but it isn't usable. I can move the mouse in and out of it, but I cannot drag an
[03:41] <RobertWHurst> y windows, icons, etc in to it. It is also missing its top panel.
[03:41] <Wildinc> Unity + Multimonitor sucks
[03:41] <RobertWHurst> yes it does
[03:41] <Wildinc> Try using GNOME
[03:42] <cromag> where should i look for printing line 2 from a grep result ? i.e grep -i $word $file returns 3 lines - i only want the second line printed.
[03:42] <RobertWHurst> No way to fix it I guess. Is it a known bug?
[03:42] <keyboardtalk> #ubuntu-server
[03:42] <Wildinc> cromag:  Use AWK not grep
[03:43] <var9> guys here's the pastebin for my wireless issues, please help me figure out why ubuntu can't even see the card(s) multiple diff cards tried...     http://pastebin.com/Ap3yhnkQ
[03:43] <Wildinc> http://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/gawk.html
[03:43] <var9> possibly acpi related
[03:43] <cromag> Wildinc: you think that would do the trick for me ?
[03:43] <sandmannc40> Does anyone have any ideas about ubuntu dropping all the ubuntus and going with unity with no quit?  Would it still be called ubuntu?
[03:43] <WarOp> Trying to install Openssh-server on 8.10, and downloaded from openssh.org and after i do a makeinstall then it doesnt give any errors but it wont let me start it and sudo dpkg -l openssh* still shows it as not being installed
[03:44] <Wildinc> Cromag: Yes awk can easily print lines from files {print $2}
[03:44] <cromag> thanks - i'll check that oout
[03:44] <Wildinc> Cromag: awk '/pattern/ {print "$1"}'
[03:44] <Mod-R-Focker> anyone using 11.04 having issues with Firefox crashing ??
[03:45] <WarOp> Also does anyone have problems playing avi files with VLC giving a error code about mp4v
[03:45] <Wildinc> Mod-R-Focker:What version of firefox are you using?
[03:45] <Wildinc> War0p: Check your codecs
[03:45] <Mod-R-Focker> ill have to check i just upgraded to 11.04
[03:45] <WarOp> nvm Just figured it Thanks wildinc
[03:46] <sandmannc40> I like ubuntu but so many distros are built on ubuntu this could cripple them, I have tried unity and I don't care for it.
[03:46] <keyboardtalk> I am trying to set up userdir with 10.04 and apache2. I am getting a permissions error when I try to access user directories. Any help?
[03:46] <Wildinc> Mod-R-Focker: Help --> About
[03:46] <Babul> Hello
 Try using chmod to change the permissions on the directorys
[03:47] <Wildinc> or chown
[03:47] <Wildinc> Google them
[03:47] <Wildinc> Babul: Hello to you
[03:47] <Starminn> Wildinc: /proc/asound/card0/codec* does not exist on my system apparently
[03:47] <sandmannc40> Hello Babul
[03:48] <Babul> Hi
[03:48] <keyboardtalk> Wildinc: I have read and execute permissions on the public_html folder. who should the owner be?
[03:48] <Babul> i'm facing problem while copying a video cd disk
[03:49] <Wildinc> Starminn: pastebin the output of lspci -nv
[03:49] <Babul> in ubuntu
 If this is the document_root for apache the owner should be "www-data"
[03:49] <Wildinc> chown www-data:www-data public_html
[03:50] <Babul> When i tried to copy the disk error ocuurs saying splicing input/output error help me someone
[03:50] <Wildinc> Babul: Are you using burning software to write to the disk?
[03:50] <Starminn> Wildinc: http://pastebin.com/TEv3pM7M
[03:51] <cromag> Wildinc: print $1 prints first field - not line. Or am a wrong ?
[03:51] <Babul> The disk came from the venderor
[03:51] <sandmannc40> I know nothing about disk copying am fairly new to linux.
[03:52] <chrisf> does anyone know when ubuntu is going to start shipping a modern mono?
[03:52] <Babul> But still i can copy the disk in windows operating system but failed in ubuntu,fedora for the error
[03:52] <chrisf> the c# compiler in 2.6.7 has a bunch of miscompile bugs that are making life miserable
[03:52] <Wildinc> Starminn cant see the soundcard from that output. Please run arecord -l
[03:53] <Wildinc> Babul: Are you copying data from the disk to the hard drive or visa versa ?
[03:53] <Starminn> Wildinc: If I understand correctly, the sound card should just be: 03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
[03:53] <Starminn>  but I don't know if Intel sponsors them or what. I'll try that command now.
[03:54] <cromag> Wildinc: sed -n helped me out. thanks thoug.
[03:54] <Babul> to the harddisk
[03:54] <james_1313> new issue, my disk usage analyser says that most of my memory is used up, but all the numbers dont add up at all
[03:54] <Starminn> Wildinc: Here: http://pastebin.com/yzvsfpA3
[03:54] <Babul> all the files are in .dat format
[03:54] <Wildinc>  cromag: no problem sed was my second choice :)
[03:54] <Babul> they are music video file
[03:55] <cromag> Wildinc: it's just hard when you dont know what to search for really :)
[03:55] <Wildinc> Cromag: That's it :)
[03:55] <keyboardtalk> Wildinc: the public_html owner is www-data and it is still not working
[03:56] <Wildinc> Starminn: http://www.fusetext.com/2009/05/ubuntu-linux-creative-sound-blaster-x-fi-driver-installation-how-to/
[03:56] <Wildinc> keyboardtalk: : Is there a log from apache2 in /var/logs Can you pastebin it please
[03:57] <Mod-R-Focker> i think my problem is unity ..
[03:57] <Wildinc> Mod-R-Focker:  Correct
[03:57] <Wildinc> Just use GNOME default
[03:58] <Mod-R-Focker> my whole desktop froze after the Firfox deal
[03:58] <james_1313> this should be a pretty easy fix, here is a screenshot of what it looks like. i have about 110 gigs missing somehow http://imgur.com/3OL7v
[03:58] <Starminn> Wildinc: "As of Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) and 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) they work fine" is this "...work fine [by default]" or "...work fine [after doing these steps]?"
[03:58] <richard_> Any one here using 'UNITY'?
[03:58] <Mod-R-Focker> not any more
[03:59] <Wildinc> Starminn: There not working at the moment right? So i would try those steps just in case you have nothing to lose
[03:59] <richard_> What are you using?
[03:59] <Wildinc> Mod-R-Focker: lol
[03:59] <Wildinc> Gnome default
[03:59] <Mod-R-Focker> i went back to the classic .. Unity has bugs i dont want to deal with
[04:00] <james_1313> soreau: http://imgur.com/3OL7v im missing about 110 gigs of stuff, i cant figure out whats wrong
[04:00] <T-Gunn> i'm running live cd with ubuntu 11.04.. it detects everything, i'm even online while on the live cd but i want to have my wireless mouse.. it doesnt detect it.. any advice?
[04:00] <Starminn> Wildinc: Well, all the sound works fine -- the only thing that doesn't work is recording from mic input.
[04:00] <Starminn> Which, really, sound isn't even outputted during that --only inputted. ;)
[04:00] <danieljf90> hello
[04:00] <soreau> james_1313: I get '502 - Bad gateway' with that link
[04:01] <danieljf90> how are you?
[04:01] <soreau> james_1313: What are you trying to show?
[04:01] <T-Gunn> im using the live cd to backup data to an ntfs formatted external hdd... any problems or caveats i should know about ? if the from and two drive are both ntfs will ubuntu read them just fine?
[04:01] <richard_> Wish I knew what is going on with these  chowder heads.  Linux  Gnome 3 and UNITY have sure messed up a lot of people's computers.
[04:01] <danieljf90> i think i got a problem with my connection to internet
[04:01] <Wildinc> Starminn: I have had the same issue but i was using an Intel sound card and the fix was to play with settings in the HDA Anyaliser. As for creative sound cards i have no clue.... Sorry
[04:01] <james_1313> soreau: http://i.imgur.com/3OL7v.png try that. my disk usage analyser says my hard drive is full but can only account for about 22 gigs of stuff
[04:02] <danieljf90> the first time was playing urban terror
[04:02] <soreau> james_1313: I usually don't trust disk analyzer
[04:02] <danieljf90> and the second was navigating on the web
[04:02] <soreau> james_1313: I trust 'df -h'
[04:02] <Starminn> Wildinc: Well, if you had this same issue and similar steps solved it, then it's certainly worth the time playing around with it. :) Thanks
[04:02] <danieljf90> what do you think that is?
[04:02] <danieljf90> anybody???
[04:03] <soreau> james_1313: Also, there is a 'refresh' button on the disk analyzer window. Did you click that?
[04:03] <Wildinc> james_1313:  Try using the "df -h" command in the terminal
[04:03] <james_1313> soreau: http://pastebin.com/fXAemC9k
[04:03] <Wildinc> Starminn: Yea finally got it working, I wish you luck
[04:04] <soreau> james_1313: And /dev/sd13 is your installation root, right?
[04:04] <soreau> james_1313: err.. /dev/sda3
[04:04] <james_1313> soreau: yes
[04:04] <danieljf90> helloooo!
[04:04] <soreau> james_1313: As you see, it's 100% full
[04:04] <infid> where can i get an equalizer for music, so i can turn off base?
[04:04] <james_1313> soreau: but i cant tell what it is full of
[04:04] <infid> *bass
[04:05] <james_1313> soreau: it makes no sense, it shouldnt be full
[04:05] <james_1313> soreau: ill poke around and see
[04:05] <soreau> james_1313: Do something like this: du -hs /media/191ff761-fbd6-4ffd-b76d-192cb771f43d/*
[04:05] <T-Gunn> i'm running live cd with ubuntu 11.04.. it detects everything, i'm even online while on the live cd but i want to have my wireless mouse.. it doesnt detect it.. any advice?
[04:06] <soreau> james_1313: Then whatever directory is suspiciously high, use the same command, changing the directory path so you can find it
[04:06] <wols_> T-Gunn: what mouse is it?
[04:07] <T-Gunn> toshiba wireless mouse
[04:07] <T-Gunn>  with nano receiver
[04:07] <james_1313> soreau: kk, awesome. you are a saint
[04:10] <T-Gunn> ok, just hooked up another mouse (didnt think about it before.. didnt have one close =D  ) next issue ... im using the live cd to backup data to an ntfs formatted external hdd... any problems or caveats i should know about ? if the from and two drive are both ntfs will ubuntu read them just fine?
[04:10] <wols_> it will
[04:10] <sandmannc40> quit
[04:10] <wols_> it won't honor permissions on any NTFS partition however
[04:11] <soreau> T-Gunn = james_1313?
[04:13] <wols_> T-Gunn: btw, linux should see the mouse with lsusb then
[04:15] <whiter> okay, i have ubuntu 11.04 installed, i'm using gnome, and i don't see where i can enable desktop effects
[04:15] <whiter> the tab thats usually in appearances is gone
[04:17] <james_1313> soreau: i found the suspicious file but its not showing anything weird
[04:18] <soreau> james_1313: What is it?
[04:18] <bullgard4> What is the task of the Ubuntu_Free_Culture_Showcase?
[04:19] <james_1313> sroeau: http://pastebin.com/j1CsbQJV
[04:20] <james_1313> soreau: and none of them are big
[04:20] <soreau> james_1313: that doesn't show any file sizes..
[04:20] <james_1313> one sec
[04:21] <T-Gunn> no, t-gunn != james_1313
[04:21] <cba123> I'm trying to get my bluetooth keyboard (http://tinyurl.com/3t24pcj) to work with my 11.04 machine, but I can't seem to get them to pair.  It worked once, then I charged the keyboard, and it won't work again.  Any ideas?
[04:22] <T-Gunn> ok thank you, ill just back up the data on to the external hard drive and go from there
[04:23] <richard_> anyone using 'Unity'? What can or cannot we expect in the next release? Any idea's. It seems to be a secret.
[04:24] <james_1313> soreau: pastbin is being dumb one sec
[04:24] <Starminn> richard_: It's not secret. You can use it now if you want
[04:25] <james_1313> sroeau: it just says that theres 34 gigs in it
[04:25] <HelloWorld321> If my eclipse isn't working and I want to re-install it, is the best way to uninstall and reinstall via  the Ubuntu Software Center ?  Or is there some -clean, -refresh or some other preferable option?
[04:25] <soreau> james_1313: In what?
[04:25] <Z3R0_> Ok i have ubuntu on a 8 gig usb drive installed with unetboot in. My problem is i can boot off all my computers around the house but it does not boot in my gaming rig.Is that normal?
[04:25] <james_1313> soreau: it just says there are 34 gigs in it
[04:25] <soreau> james_1313: In what?
[04:25] <richard_> I'm running 11.04 now but it lacks so much.
[04:26] <Starminn> richard_: I'm not upgrading until 11.10 anyway if I can help it, just for personal tastes. The Oneiric Ocelot Alpha 1 has been out for 17 days, though, and you can download it here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[04:27] <Starminn> Just sticking with 10.10, for me
[04:29] <richard_> Is the Alpa version useable to some degree?  I want to know if it has made any progress with the user interface.
[04:30] <mikeru> hey
[04:30] <richard_> The user interface of 11.04 is pretty bad and really lacks functionality.
[04:30] <mikeru> I'm having problems accessing files in ISOs mounted by Archive Mounter (GVFS)
[04:31] <Starminn> richard_: HAven't tried it myself, but it's going to use Unity.
[04:31] <mikeru> I click an ISO
[04:31] <mikeru> it mounts
[04:31] <mikeru> but sometimes it's empty
[04:31] <Starminn> richard_: Why not try GNOME3 on 11.04 as opposed ot Unity if Unity is what you are having problems with
[04:32] <mikeru> (I think that might be related to ISOs with HFS filesystems though)
[04:32] <mikeru> but most times while I can see the files
[04:32] <Mod-R-Focker> whiter> becareful setting your desk top effects .. it messed up Unity for me and i had to reinstall
[04:32] <mikeru> I can't open them with some programs
[04:32] <mikeru> for example
[04:32] <Mod-R-Focker> whiter> like setting Cube ..
[04:32] <mikeru> Wine fails with Bus Error
[04:33] <rypervenche> wine + bus = accident :/
[04:33] <mikeru> except if I mount with sudo mount -o loop
[04:33] <mikeru> to somewhere else
[04:33] <mikeru> many programs don't even open the files
[04:33] <mikeru> particularly non-Gnome programs
[04:33] <dsnyders> !sshd
[04:33] <haddiman> Command line noob here. I used the cp command to copy a 127 GB folder over my network. However I didn't put anything like -v so I could get an idea of how it was progressing along. It's been about 3 hours now and it seems to be chugging along fine, but is there any way I could get an idea of it's progress.
[04:34] <richard_> Gnome 3 and ATI Radeo HD video cards don't mix. I had screen corruption problems in Fedora 15 with Gnome 3. it's got it's problems too.
[04:34] <mikeru> thumbnails fail to generate
[04:34] <mikeru> too
[04:35] <mikeru> chromium can't open html files from an iso mounted by archive mounter
[04:36] <K-Rich> Hi all, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04, and have Google Chrome installed, all works great, except i can't for the life of me get it to play movies online, flv is fine, but .avi .mov .mp4 .mpg don't play... i get the totem page but the video never plays, works fine in FF4 though
[04:36] <Potluck> Greetings everybody
[04:37] <usr13> K-Rich: Try right clicking and open with totem
[04:37] <mikeru> actually, anything mounted by GVFS can't be opened by non-Gnome apps
[04:37] <K-Rich> usr13: one second i'll try
[04:38] <Potluck> anybody here Xubuntu?
[04:38] <Potluck> anybody here use Xubuntu?
[04:38] <mikeru> I fail to see the usefulness of GVFS. only a few programs can use it
[04:39] <mikeru> and I can't understand at all why it is the default option and why to mount a disk image normally you have to use a Terminal
[04:40] <K-Rich> usr13: i don't have that option :/
[04:40] <haddiman> Doesn't GVFS just mount to the ".gvfs" directory in your home folder?
[04:41] <supernoobs> does anyone know if its possible to bridge two wireless connections in ubuntu 11?
[04:41] <chan23> hi all
[04:41] <Potluck> just a silly question anybody here use Xubuntu?
[04:41] <chan23> today , am trying to watch new in this website http://english.cntv.cn/live/ , and this http://fr.cntv.cn/live/index.shtml but when starting play , i have a white page in firefox
[04:42] <supernoobs> i installed it for a bit potluck.  but i couldn't get aircrack working so i put ubuntu
[04:43] <PCdoc> :(
[04:43] <Potluck> ok i just upgraded to 11.04 xubuntu and my graphic drivers were removed
[04:43] <Potluck> and i can't  find them anymore on the softgware center
[04:43] <PCdoc> my gdm crashes when i try playing movie on totem and vlc player
[04:43] <K-Rich> Hi all, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04, and have Google Chrome installed, all works great, except i can't for the life of me get it to play movies online, flv is fine, but .avi .mov .mp4 .mpg don't play... i get the totem page but the video never plays, works fine in FF4 though
[04:44] <supernoobs> in synaptic?
[04:45] <mikeru> haddiman: yes, but for some reason programs do not open files correctly from there
[04:45] <chan23> have a similar problem but a little different,when i click to play , have a white page
[04:45] <mikeru> haddiman: particularly non-Gnome programs
[04:45] <supernoobs> u mean in synaptics?
[04:46] <dijonyummy123> any linux tools to guess what a file type is? its named file04.chk.  recovered.
[04:46] <wols_> dijonyummy123: "file". see man file
[04:47] <new2net> 5.1.54-1ubuntu4-log  ||  OpenSSH 5.8p1 Debian 1ubuntu3 (protocol 2.0)  ......    What does the  >1<ubuntu>[3|4]<  mean?   specifically the 1 and 3 4 lol
[04:47] <PCdoc> my gdm crashes when i try playing movie on totem and vlc player
[04:47] <Corey> clear
[04:47] <midwinter_> Can someone help me get sound working on a dell mini 9?
[04:47] <agent13> yea what up
[04:48] <midwinter_> I keep getting an error when I try to edit the alsa-base file
[04:48] <agent13> have a crash log?
[04:48] <agent13> permission error
[04:48] <midwinter_> permission error
[04:48] <agent13> pathing error?
[04:48] <agent13> sudo ....
[04:48] <midwinter_> yup
[04:48] <agent13> are you running selinux
[04:48] <midwinter_> no
[04:48] <agent13> build
[04:48] <midwinter_> whatever the latest Ubuntu relase is
[04:49] <dijonyummy123> file just returns "data"
[04:49] <agent13> is it a restricted driver?
[04:49] <agent13> can you cat the config?
[04:49] <midwinter_> here's the error:
[04:49] <midwinter_> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[04:49] <midwinter_> grr
[04:49] <midwinter_> (gedit:1892): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.CCM5WV': No such file or directory
[04:50] <agent13> have you tried vi or vi
[04:50] <agent13> m
[04:50] <midwinter_> no
[04:50] <midwinter_> wouldn't know how
[04:50] <agent13> because sudo gedit is going to cause its own security conundrum
[04:50] <slontec> use nano
[04:50] <agent13> k
[04:50] <midwinter_> ah
[04:50] <T-Bagwell> have somebody tested CLOUD with ubuntu?
[04:50] <agent13> lolz fer sure
[04:50] <Corey> T-Bagwell: CLOUD?
[04:50] <agent13> dump...
[04:50] <midwinter_> can you walk me through how to edit the file in something that will work?
[04:51] <bastidrazor> use gksudo with gedit.. or any GUI application
[04:51] <Corey> midwinter_: sudo nano $FILENAME is pretty straightforward.
[04:51] <dijonyummy123> vi a 5GB file could take a long time, but thats an idea
[04:51] <supernoobs> gksudo?
[04:51] <agent13> yea... or you can always use sudo vi /etc/.... >> yourfile
[04:51] <T-Bagwell> yes, use Ubuntu for cloud computing
[04:51] <agent13> sudo paste
[04:51] <supernoobs> ah bastid beat me
[04:51] <agent13> if you really want to gedit
[04:52] <agent13> sorry open the output with gedit
[04:52] <agent13> then yea
[04:52] <midwinter_> OK
[04:52] <midwinter_> got the file open in nano
[04:52] <midwinter_> but there's nothing there
[04:52] <agent13> but I would onestly sudo terminator...
[04:52] <agent13> save you the typeage
[04:52] <midwinter_> it's a blank text file
[04:53] <RevSpecies116> ChromeOS would be your better bet, T-Bagwell
[04:53] <agent13> btw things like pulse audio need per sessions configs
[04:53] <agent13> so that would be a config thing
[04:53] <agent13> make sure you kill the process as well , haz caused problems in pasy
[04:54] <T-Bagwell> 3x to RevSpecies116, i'll change it....
[04:54] <agent13> has anyone gotten serious results from ufw?
[04:54] <agent13> honestly
[04:54] <bullgard4> I obtained a message "panic occurred, switching back to text console". What Natty log file should reflect that?
[04:55] <agent13> /var/log/ depends on your setup
[04:55] <Mod-R-Focker> midwinter . not sure this helps but i had issues "gedit a file " if i was not in the folder that it was ing .. ex had to "cd" to the folder then gedit .. if i did not it would show up blank ..
[04:55] <agent13> probabl xession
[04:55] <agent13> or kern\sys
[04:55] <supernoobs> he left lol
[04:55] <agent13> anyone here on the dev team?
[04:56] <bullgard4> agent13: I have a very fresh Natty 64-bit setup. What log file should reflect that?
[04:56] <dijonyummy123> vi took along time but i got an idea now either 7z or exe or iso. i'll try 7z
[04:57] <agent13> anacron boot bootsrap
[04:57] <agent13> why?
[04:57] <agent13> bt you can get data from kern sys
[04:57] <agent13> etc
[04:58] <agent13> im waiting for the netbook version and bt5 to dl then im off to my nix box
[04:58] <agent13> wait wtf
[04:59] <agent13> how does compression and permissions suddenly become one?
[04:59] <agent13> iso 7zip .... did I miss
[04:59] <Corey> agent13: Once more, in English?
[04:59] <agent13> sorry
[05:00] <wols_> bullgard4: messages or kern.log
[05:00] <agent13> was wondering if something was lost in the text
[05:00] <agent13> the previous inquiry seemed to be about acls and log files
[05:00] <agent13> not compression and data migration
[05:01] <agent13> o shizzz
[05:01] <wols_> !enter
[05:01] <bullgard4> wols_: Last night I tried to find an echo on this kernel panic but I was sleepy. What string should I grep for these 2 logs?
[05:02] <agent13> monster and redbull
[05:02] <agent13> :P
[05:02] <platinum> what are the 2 logs?
[05:02] <dijonyummy123> i run 10.10 and sometimes when i suspend my laptop it still hangs and i have to hard power down.  better than before but anyone know how to prevent it from hanging
[05:02] <agent13> auth kern
[05:02] <agent13> sys
[05:02] <agent13> why the interrogation
[05:03] <bullgard4> !prefix | platinum
[05:03] <dijonyummy123> suspend doesnt use any swap file right. it just puts it on low power
[05:03] <agent13> I use a third party log consolidation ultil? Wh the inquisition
[05:03] <agent13> depends on ACPI settings
[05:04] <agent13> swap is utilized as needed
[05:04] <agent13> so probably not
[05:04] <platinum> !ubottu thanks, I'm a newbie for IRC...
[05:04] <cocoaboy> test
[05:04] <platinum> !ubottu | test
[05:04] <cocoaboy> can anyone see this?
[05:04] <Corey> agent13: Do you have an actual support question, or is this just a stream of consciousness?
[05:04] <agent13> yea
[05:05] <Corey> cocoaboy: Sure.
[05:05] <agent13> I wanted help with getting selinux to work
[05:05] <Hanzo> hi
[05:05] <agent13> finding something other than uvcview that works with linux cams
[05:05] <pRoV7x>  hi   Hanzo
[05:05] <Corey> !selinux | agent13
[05:05] <Hanzo> whats up guys
[05:06] <agent13> and needed advice on joining the dev group
[05:06] <agent13> didn't kowif this was the riht place
[05:06] <agent13> last I was serious about ufw
[05:06] <ilangeeran> i need to enhance my desktop effects.i am using ubuntu 8.10.
[05:07] <dijonyummy123> how to remove a swap file
[05:07] <agent13> since Iptables\chains is the only real comparison can someone post a link to study of ufw efficacy
[05:07] <agent13> swapoff
[05:07] <qin> !hardy | ilangeeran
[05:07] <agent13> lol
[05:07] <agent13> no
[05:07] <agent13> do you prefer cli or gui
[05:07] <Starminn> !eol | ilangeeran
[05:07] <dijonyummy123> so swapoff, then rm /swapfile?
[05:07] <agent13> and have a reason? Just out of curiosity
[05:08] <agent13> no use kparted or gparted disable the swafile. Delete. Format as needed
[05:08] <agent13> you can encrypt and use sswap for security f that is concern
[05:09] <jamescarr> what is the package for sun java in 11.10?
[05:09] <Hanzo> i can help you maybe
[05:09] <dijonyummy123> i mean my swapfile is really just a file, not a partition so just rm is good?
[05:09] <platinum> Could someone tell me how to speak to a particular person?
[05:09] <agent13> yea
[05:09] <agent13> side
[05:09] <agent13> right click...
[05:09] <agent13> open dialog
[05:09] <Starminn> jamescarr: 11.10 is not yet released. Support for alpha/beta releases are in #ubuntu+1
[05:09] <FloodBot1> agent13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:10] <qin> platinum: Use hes nick
[05:10] <jamescarr> I mean 11.04
[05:10] <haddiman> I've been away from Linux for about a couple of years. Is it still a pain to use ATI cards and is there a list of recommended cards?
[05:10] <jamescarr> typo
[05:10] <ilangeeran> can any one say me how to enhance my desktop effects like atlantis cube and more?
[05:10] <agent13> njoy yurselfs
[05:10] <agent13> compiz
[05:10] <agent13> fusion
[05:11] <Starminn> jamescarr: :) Not a problem. And it's probably java-common. Full list of *java* packages for Natty are here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=java&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[05:11] <platinum> qin, test
[05:11] <qin> platinum: passed
[05:12] <platinum> qin, thanks a lot!
[05:12] <qin> platinum: For longer nick you can use tab, like: pla<TAB>
[05:13] <ilangeeran> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:13] <Starminn> ilangeeran: /join <channelname>
[05:13] <platinum> qin: I tried to type "qi" and <TAB>, it showed me "qin: ", that's good!!!
[05:14] <dijonyummy123> how to format a drive ntfs in linux or not recommended
[05:17] <MrPPS> dijonyummy123: fdisk or gparted
[05:17] <Hanzo> evet
[05:17] <Hanzo> burdayim söyle
[05:17] <joedj_> ah man, came in to ask if the rolling release stuff had started yet, then found a slashdot article saying it was a rumour that's been debunked :(
[05:17] <Hanzo> dinliyorum seni
[05:17] <joedj_> getting _real_ sick of my repos disappearing
[05:17] <MrPPS> dijonyummy123: make sure you have ntfstools installed
[05:17] <cocoaboy> does anyone use dd-wrt?
[05:17] <platinum> ubottu: test
[05:18] <estela> Please, how can open apt files for installing?
[05:18] <Hanzo> aysel
[05:18] <qin> estela: apt files?
[05:18] <estela> yes
[05:19] <qin> You mean .deb ?
[05:20] <astraljava> estela: If installing from repositories, use: sudo apt-get install <packagename>, if installing from filesystem, use: sudo dpkg -i <name>.deb
[05:20] <estela> No, apt for installing Ubuntu Tweak in edubuntu...
[05:21] <platinum> Has somebody used Ubuntu for cloud computing?
[05:21] <dijonyummy123> gparted is on my system but no icon in gnome. too bad. else i forget about it. ran from terminal
[05:24] <Cydd> omg guys..........search "gay" on Google - look to the right :O
[05:25] <iceroot> Cydd: stop it please
[05:25] <Cydd> ?
[05:26] <qin> Cydd: Try to anounce it on #freenode, propably you will get more attention.
[05:26] <astraljava> dijonyummy123: Should be found in System | Administration | Disk Utility, I presume.
[05:28] <dijonyummy123> yeah it s there, was looking wrong place. gparted cool works.
[05:28] <dijonyummy123> can linux read macos partitions, hfs?
[05:30] <babu__> how to enable dictionary in open office 3.2
[05:31] <babu__> how to enable dictionary in open office 3.2\
[05:32] <astraljava> dijonyummy123: It can, but not sure whether there can still be problems. 5 years ago they recommended to turn off the journaling for the HFS+ partition. Reading might work without problems, though.
[05:32] <Hanzo> ordamisin
[05:32] <Hanzo> aysel
[05:32] <Hanzo> ne söyleyecektin
[05:32] <Hanzo> bana seslenmişsin
[05:33] <Corey> !es | Hanzo
[05:33] <inuki> wow, somebody write in spanish?
[05:33] <rypervenche> That's not Spanish....
[05:33] <inuki> funny write in english, but my english is bad.
[05:33] <Hanzo> tamam
[05:33] <Hanzo> ben hala uyumadım
[05:34] <AQuintero> Hi ...I'm getting this error in empathy: "RequestConnection failed: Message did not receive a reply" ...  someone knows why I'm getting this error in empathy ?
[05:34] <astraljava> babu__: Options | Language Settings | Languages ? If that doesn't work, then I wouldn't know.
[05:36] <babu__> it doesn't work
[05:36] <astraljava> AQuintero: Doubt there's any general reason for that. Probably depends on the protocol used, and some problems in that creating connection to the server. Without any further information, impossible to tell.
[05:37] <astraljava> babu__: How it doesn't work? Were you able to select a language? If yes, then what happens? Please elaborate, cannot help with just "it doesn't work".
[05:42] <midwinter_> can someone help me get sound working on a dell mini?
[05:43] <Airris> using 10.04 - metacity. The window manager seems to be ignoring all global shortcuts while in fullscreen mode. It didn't used to do this. The ability to minimize a fullscreen app is kinda useful, how can i fix things?
[05:46] <astraljava> midwinter_: There's a good page for that. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[05:46] <astraljava> midwinter_: Maybe start with that and let us know where you face problems?
[05:46] <axum> join #gentoo
[05:47] <midwinter_> astral: I've done that
[05:47] <midwinter_> no luck
[05:47] <midwinter_> I actually get a weird file when I try to edit the alsa-base
[05:47] <midwinter_> a bunch of tildes
[05:47] <midwinter_> so I can't add the line I need to add
[05:47] <midwinter_> tried vi, nano and gedit
[05:49] <rypervenche> midwinter_: You'll see those tildas if you're using vi/vim
[05:49] <midwinter_> ryper: how can I get the file to open up so I can add the line?
[05:50] <axilla-> man, why do i always have such a hard time coming up with new things to code!
[05:50] <astraljava> midwinter_: sudo vim /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base-conf
[05:50] <astraljava> Err... sorry, alsa-base.conf
[05:50] <astraljava> midwinter_: But use nano if you're not comfortable with vim
[05:50] <midwinter_> k
[05:51] <axilla-> don't use nano.
[05:51] <axilla-> use vim and get comfortable with it
[05:51] <axilla-> you will be glad you did later on.
[05:51] <astraljava> Agreed, it's a journey, but a great one at that. :)
[05:51] <AQuintero> astraljava: yes ... I was thinking the same ...  it could be a problem with the connection to the  "Facebook" or "MSN"'s protocol ... but there is something weird, I close VirtualBox and it worked ... I'm gonna test again ...
[05:51] <axilla-> thats just my .02... VIM is super confusing at first.. but once you learn to harness its power.. you will learn to love it.
[05:52] <rypervenche> midwinter_: You can learn vim by installing "vim" then typing "vimtutor" in a terminal.
[05:52] <midwinter_> woot!
[05:52] <midwinter_> nano worked
[05:52] <midwinter_> let me reboot and see if that did the trick
[05:54] <AQuintero> ohh JC  ... I started Virtualbox with WinXP and empathy can't connect to Facebook ... what could it be ?
[05:55] <midwinter_> grr.  still no sound
[05:55] <Airris> using 10.04 - metacity. The window manager seems to be ignoring all global shortcuts while in fullscreen mode. It didn't used to do this. The ability to minimize/alt+tab a fullscreen app is kinda useful, how can i fix things?
[05:56] <RenatoSilva> can't remove package broffice.org! neither install it!
[05:56] <RenatoSilva> how to purge a ghost package?
[05:58] <GizmoGuy74> hi maria
[05:58] <GizmoGuy74> :P
[05:58] <xx_l3londie_xx> hi :)
[05:58] <xx_l3londie_xx> anything goin on in here guys?
[05:58] <jazz2> how can I get back to a 2.6.28 kernel on my 10.04-server? since I upgraded from 9.04 the wlan connection is dead slow with the 2.6.31 /32 kernel (I even made a clean install to check if the upgrade was faulty, but unfortunately there is no 2.6.28 kernel available anymore, as it was when I upgraded) or do I have to go back to 9.04?
[06:00] <astraljava> RenatoSilva: Can you pastebin the error message?
[06:02] <jkbrntot> hi got this issue...  on 11.04, when downloading a document and SAVE is clicked, then you browse folders.  Then click CREATE FOLDER. a folder with rename appears for about 2 seconds then disappears.  so unable to create new folder on the SAVE window (?Nautilus) in FIREFOX 4
[06:03] <edbian> jkbrntot: Does that happen in certain folders only or any folder?
[06:03] <jkbrntot> ah yes let me try...  maybe it's permissions
[06:03] <edbian> jkbrntot: That's what I'm thinking
[06:04] <AQuintero> Well, I think empathy has a bug ... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609828 ... I killed "telepathy-gabbler" and it worked (running empathy again) ... thanks astraljava anyway ...
[06:04] <jkbrntot> edbian: looks like it works fine on documents folder
[06:04] <AQuintero> ye obottu, you're right ...
[06:04] <edbian> jkbrntot: What folder was the bug occuring in?
[06:05] <astraljava> AQuintero: Interesting. Glad you got it working.
[06:05] <jkbrntot> downloads folder
[06:05] <edbian> jkbrntot: What are the permissions on that folder? (this is curious)
[06:06] <Airris> using 10.04 - metacity. The window manager seems to be ignoring all global shortcuts while in fullscreen mode. It didn't used to do this. The ability to minimize/alt+tab a fullscreen app is kinda useful, how can i fix things?
[06:06] <RenatoSilva> astraljava: nm, I made the purge with aptitude
[06:07] <jkbrntot> edbian: i tried it again...  it's working now...  thanks edbian...  must be one of those temporary quirks
[06:07] <edbian> jkbrntot: I don't like those type of quirks :/
[06:07] <jkbrntot> :|
[06:07] <sdfasd> hi.. gparted can detect my hardisk but hdparm n bios cant... what can i do to fix this
[06:09] <bullgard4> What is the command-line command to find on the site https://help.ubuntu.com/  articles containing the string »kernel panic«?
[06:09] <xxDiGiToLxx> anyone know why after creating a new user i am unable to use it to connect to the samba share on the server unless i actually login with the user first on the ubuntu machine??
[06:10] <biopyte> hi, 11.04 has a new default desktop. is it easy to switch to the plain gnome desktop?
[06:10] <bazhang> !classic | biopyte
[06:10] <edbian> bipolar: yes
[06:10] <edbian> biopyte: yes
[06:10] <bazhang> biopyte, very. choose at login window
[06:10] <biopyte> ok thanks
[06:10] <biopyte> great
[06:12] <xxDiGiToLxx> it just keeps telling me the authentication fails
[06:12] <xxDiGiToLxx> i tried logging in with the new user credentials from a win 7 or os x machine
[06:12] <xxDiGiToLxx> same authentication fails issue
[06:16] <CppIsWeird> i install ubuntu on a usb drive on one computer, i plugged the usb drive in on another computer, i get the grub menu but as it boots it complains that it cant mount /root
[06:17] <goran> how to revert all these so called inovations in new versions of ubuntu, xubuntu etc
[06:17] <CppIsWeird> or root is not ready or not present
[06:17] <edbian> goran: Log out, click your name, change the session (at the bottom) to ubuntu classic, log in
[06:17] <minibnz> hi, i want to find out how to get the printer installation gui to pop up, i plugged in a printer and the install gui popped up, my drivers were not in the list and i hit cancel, now when i reconnect the printer nothign happens how can i get that install gui to come back up again? i know i can manually use the webfrontend to cups to add it but i need to document the process and cant Reinstall lucid to make this happen again..( far too much other stuff instal
[06:17] <minibnz> led now to wipe it)
[06:18] <goran> k, tnx edbian
[06:18] <minibnz> i had to manually compile the drivers, now they are available i want to use the gui to install it..
[06:18] <Airris> using 10.04 - metacity. The window manager seems to be ignoring all global shortcuts while in fullscreen mode. It didn't used to do this. The ability to minimize/alt+tab a fullscreen app is kinda useful, how can i fix things?
[06:20] <Jordan_U> CppIsWeird: Try adding the kernel parameter "rootwait". If that doesn't work then it may be that the drivers for your USB controller are broken or non-existant.
[06:21] <CppIsWeird> ic
[06:28] <semitones_tea> How hard would it be to make a script that generated an image each day from a template?
[06:28] <Corey> semitones_tea: Not very.
[06:28] <Corey> semitones_tea: Look into imagemagick
[06:29] <semitones_tea> Corey: thanks. All I want to do really is have a tumblog that posts one image each day at 12:00 am, saying "Day Changed to XX" :P
[06:29] <semitones_tea> Corey: so I'm thinking of having an image automatically generated, use RSS somehow and import it to Tumblr
[06:30] <fisken_> ping
[06:30] <velofille> heya anyone awake who can help diagnose a problem (preferably somebody with higher level linux experiance or debugging)
[06:31] <dijonyummy123> i want to concatenate several pdfs into 1. like pdftk 1.pdf 2.pdf cat output 12.pdf , but how to do pdftk *pdf cat output 123.pdf and control the order of files. possible?
[06:31] <bazhang> velofille, just ask
[06:31] <dijonyummy123> without manually listing each file
[06:31] <velofille> my Dell studio 17" is just freezing randomly since installing 11.04 - reinstalled fresh and same problem, used both ubuntu and kubuntu
[06:32] <fisken_> is there anyway to attach to pts/1 through something like screen?
[06:32] <velofille> nothing in any error logs that i can see, terminals are open and gkrellm running, and it literally just freezes with no slow down or error messages
[06:32] <velofille> bazhang, sorry, i was getting there :)
[06:34] <velofille> so anyone know of any bugs or problems or help on debugging?
[06:35] <velofille> i personally think its related to touchpad, never happens when im not using it. and usually happens when im using the touchpad
[06:37] <jkbrntot> velofille, when it freezes, then you click on the touchpad button, are you able to resume normal operations
[06:37] <boomboorum> Hi all, I delete google chrome ppa and now cannot upgrade it. Quick google search didn't give any results. What is the ppa?
[06:37] <boomboorum> For google chrome
[06:37] <velofille> jkbrntot, nope, nothing fixes it other than hard reset
[06:37] <elssha> what is the difference between regular ubuntu 10.04 and the netbook ed of 10.04?
[06:37] <rypervenche> boomboorum: just use chromium :/
[06:38] <fisken_> does anyone know how to attach themselves from one psuedo terminal to another?
[06:38] <velofille> gkrellm stops updating, nothing in logs
[06:38] <Corey> !chrome
[06:38] <velofille> fisken_, you could do that with screen, but otherwise i dont think its do-able
[06:38] <boomboorum> rypervenche:  is there any difference?
[06:38] <entel> fisken_: screen
[06:38] <velofille> you could run strace on the pid if its already running and you want to view it
[06:39] <b44> How to set a user-group as owner of a file?
[06:39] <elssha> what is the difference between regular ubuntu 10.04 and the netbook ed of 10.04? I just got an Aspire 1 and am debating between the two ve3rsions
[06:39] <minibnz> b44 chown user:group file.
[06:39] <jkbrntot> velofille: freezing does not occur in previous ubuntu versions?  which versions have you tried?
[06:39] <fisken_> i've tried reading the manual for screen, but i can't figure out how to specify it as a psuedo terminal
[06:39] <elssha> versions*
[06:39] <rypervenche> boomboorum: Chromium is an open-source browser project that aims to build a safer, faster, and more stable way for all Internet users to experience the web. Chromium serves as a base for Google Chrome, which is Chromium rebranded (name and logo) with very few additions such as usage tracking and an auto-updater system.
[06:40] <jkbrntot> elssha: netbook edition uses unity.  but you can still switch to classic ubuntu
[06:40] <elssha> anyone?
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum: sudo add-apt-repository ppa://chromium-daily/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install chromium-browser
[06:41] <jkbrntot> elssha: the 10.04 unity is different from current unity.  whole words e.g. 'System' are displayed on the left of the desktop
[06:41] <boomboorum> ActionParsnip: what is thay -y for?
[06:41] <fisken_> entel: when i try attatching to pts/1, it thinks i mean 'pts', i don't understand how to do it
[06:42] <elssha> so it's not 'real' unity, right? I really don't like it in the new version
[06:42] <elssha> I need to know how big a difference on power the netbook ed makes
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> elssha: didn't know there was a netbook Lucid. Netbook editions usually optomize for smaller screens and can have funky UIs. Under the hood is the same
[06:42] <rypervenche> boomboorum: It automatically answers "Yes" to everything.
[06:42] <amit> hii
[06:43] <elssha> also want to know what program repos aren't available
[06:43] <KSHawkEye> Does anyone know what package pwd.h is part of?
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum: it doesn't tell you how much data will be installed etc. It just does it
[06:43] <jkbrntot> elssha: repos are the same
[06:43] <amit> My computer shutdown in a power outage and now the panel is gone. It shows an error like gconf bus error
[06:44] <amit> what shud I do?
[06:44] <minibnz> fsck your drive would be a good start.. amit.. i have seen this where the home folder is corrupted
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> KSHawkEye: try:  dpkg -S pwd.h
[06:45] <amit> minibnz: what should I do to have minimal damage.
[06:45] <KSHawkEye> ActionParsnip: Thanks a lot
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> amit: also check RAM using memtest from gru
[06:45] <amit> ok
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Grub
[06:45] <amit> but there is no option like grub
[06:46] <boomboorum> I stuck at updatint. It gave an error at the end http://pastebin.com/bnk0LW5Y
[06:46] <amit> I mean the grub prompt isnt shown
[06:46] <minibnz> amit. i am not too sure, personally i only know enough to get myself into trouble :) i dont know all the settings you need for fsck
[06:46] <amit> I had only Ubuntu
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Amit: there is. What do you think loads your OS?
[06:46] <minibnz> ahh right at the start you should be able to press escape just after your bios has done the memory test
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Amit: hold shift at boot and choose memtest there
[06:47] <minibnz> this should bring up grub menu for you\
[06:47] <spartan07> hey guys is there a way to remove the top panel from the second monitor on 11.04?
[06:47] <amit> I known ActionParsnip that there is grub.. ok gonna try that
[06:47] <amit> anyway how should I go on if no error in memetest
[06:47] <Airris> using 10.04 - metacity. The window manager seems to be ignoring all global shortcuts while in fullscreen mode. It didn't used to do this. The ability to minimize/alt+tab a fullscreen app is kinda useful, how can i fix things?
[06:47] <spartan07> Also is there a way to speed up 11.04 on your netbook? How do I install 2d unity?
[06:48] <fisken_> is it possible to use screen to attach to a pseudo terminal?
[06:48] <josh__> im running ubuntu 11.04 and audio is coming out of both my tower and my monitor. how do i turn off the audio coming out of the tower?
[06:48] <elssha> any idea if there will be a significant boost in battery between the reg and netbook ed?
[06:48] <jkbrntot> spartan07, lots of tutorials from on web for 2d unity...  you can also use ubuntu classic
[06:48] <amit> what should I do after memetest
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> spartan07: its in the repos. There is a ppa for newer builds
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> !unity2d
[06:49] <elssha> i assume either will give me more than the win7 I'm currently running
[06:49] <elssha> >_>
[06:49] <minibnz> spartan07 have a look at xrandr
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> !find unity2d
[06:49] <josh__> im running ubuntu 11.04 and audio is coming out of both my tower and my monitor. how do i turn off the audio coming out of the tower?
[06:49] <spartan07> minibnz, ok thanks
[06:50] <karrot2> is there anyway to use my netbook to control my linux computer in a way that just does what I type and mouse control without VNC?
[06:50] <minibnz> xrandra lets you control the multiple screens
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> !info unity-2d
[06:50] <Corey> karrot2: screen
[06:50] <jkbrntot> elssha, ubuntu classic is usually more responsive than the netbook edition unity...  though unity 2d (builtin) is pretty responsive too on older netbooks
[06:51] <Corey> karrot2: Ah, GUI? synergy2
[06:51] <karrot2> Corey: synergy2? thanks
[06:51] <josh__> im running ubuntu 11.04 and audio is coming out of both my tower and my monitor. how do i turn off the audio coming out of the tower? anyone?
[06:51] <elssha> mine is band new... the processor is an AMD c-50 with 2gig ram
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> Karrot2: what activities do you do remotely. Files can be securely accessed via sftp and may apps have webui
[06:52] <elssha> so what I need is the OS that will give me better bat life
[06:52] <nexace_> is it possible to act as my own nameserver for my domain name? i mean, is it ok to run bind9 and point my domain name server entries to my own server through my registrar?
[06:52] <karrot2> ActionParsnip: I want to type through the netbook keyboard and have it interpreted as what I'm typing at the server
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> josh__: what make and model system (if it has one). You should use that instead of "my tower", its more exact
[06:53] <josh__> last try. im running ubuntu 11.04 and audio is coming out of both my tower and my monitor. how do i turn off the audio coming out of the tower?
[06:54] <josh__> lenovo thinkcentre m57
[06:54] <jkbrntot> elssha: if you use netbook, you can try default install. if too slow use unity 2d or ubuntu classic.  actually i dont think you'll miss too much if you just use vanilla 10.04 rather than the netbook edition.  They just look different and just depends on preference
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> Karrot2: you can use ssh for that and console in securely
[06:54] <elssha> so no diff as far as battery life?
[06:54] <jkbrntot> also unity has some window resizing thing that sometimes gets rid of the top bars/panels to give you more screen space
[06:55] <elssha> i assumed the netbook ed would be suited to extend it
[06:55]  * elssha dislikes unity anyway
[06:55] <karrot2> ActionParsnip: with a gui though?
[06:55] <nexace_> is it possible to act as my own nameserver for my domain name? i mean, is it ok to run bind9 and point my domain name server entries to my own server through my registrar?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> elssha: if you use a light desktop like LXDE you can get longer battery time
[06:55] <clr> guys and gals, I get the *worst* performance on intel hd 3000 w/ ubuntu 11.04
[06:56] <clr> stuttering video
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Karrot2: why do you need gui?
[06:56] <elssha> what's LXDE?
[06:56] <b44> only root can change owner and gid of a file ???
[06:56] <nexace_> no
[06:56] <b44> also owner ?
[06:56] <nexace_> b44: depends on permissions
[06:56] <nexace_> b44: and group
[06:56] <FourDollars> elssha: http://www.lxde.org/
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> elssha: an alternative to gnome, uses less cpu power
[06:57] <jkbrntot> clr: video driver?
[06:57] <b44> nexace_: permissions are rwxrwx---
[06:57] <karrot2> ActionParsnip: I have a computer with all my movies and stuff on it with a humongous screen, I wanna control it with my netbook and I use a mouseless window manager, so I wanna easily control it from my netbook
[06:57] <nexace_> b44: and what are you trying to do ?
[06:57] <elssha> does it still support all the programs ubuntu does?
[06:58] <clr> jkbrntot: I forget how to print that out
[06:58] <jkbrntot> elssha: you'll still be using ubuntu...  desktop is different
[06:58] <b44> nexace_: these are my permissions: -rwxrwx--- 1 me me     233 20. Jun 07:57 subscriber.php ; and chown me:www-data subscriber.php gives error: permission denied
[06:58] <josh__> im running ubuntu 11.04 and audio is coming out of both my tower and my monitor. how do i turn off the audio coming out of the tower?
[06:58] <rallias> Is there an available localhost DNS server that is suitable for single person use and automatically updates when the hints file is changed?
[06:58] <elssha> i meant in lxde thing
[06:58] <silv3r_m00n> hi there , I need to set the speed of eth0 to 10Mbps fixed , HOW ?
[06:58] <MagusOTB> xgt001: In my experience, it's easier to just convince yourself that you don't need to.
[06:58] <jkbrntot> elssha: yes
[06:59] <jkbrntot> elssha: i believe lubuntu is lxde
[06:59] <elssha> oh, okay
[06:59] <nexace_> b44: try: chgrp www-data ./subscriber
[06:59] <elssha> so (if i wanted to) i could run compiz and other frills on it?
[07:00] <b44> nexace_: permission denied, too
[07:00] <jkbrntot> elssha: but since there are differences so cant expect everything to work as is, but repos would be there
[07:00] <nexace_> b44: might just have to sudo
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> Karrot2: vlc has a great http interface. Xbmc also has one with phone apps which you can use to control it. I use the vlc option personally and tell the pc what to play from my android phone
[07:00] <jkbrntot> elssha: lxde is about being light...  you probably could run frills.. but if you want to do that just use gnome
[07:01] <nexace_> is it possible to act as my own nameserver for my domain name? i mean, is it ok to run bind9 and point my domain name server entries to my own server through my registrar?
[07:01] <b44> nexace_: as root it works .... but I want to allow it to users ....?
[07:01] <elssha> just checking
[07:01] <hamnegga> anyone know how I can have a script issue a carraige return for authentication?  I have an svn update that I'm automating and it needs to be supplied an empty password for 'guest'.  I've tried echo "\r" and echo, and echo "\n", but they're not working...
[07:01] <jkbrntot> elssha: :)
[07:01] <nexace_> b44: is "me" part of www-data?
[07:02] <elssha> i do have a bit of a sweet tooth for eyecandy and making another user for when i'm on battery so that I can enjoy my desktop cube, etc would be a plus
[07:02] <b44> nexace_, no
[07:02] <nexace_> b44: usermod -G www-data me
[07:02] <nexace_> b44: then try it
[07:02] <nexace_> b44: sorry, sudo that usermod
[07:02] <elssha> side Q; If i have a 64bit win 7 installed should I install the 64bit linux os or does it make not difference?
[07:03] <Flannel> b44, nexace_: NO, dont' do that.
[07:03] <jkbrntot> elssha: yeah you can choose your desktop manager from login screen
[07:03] <nexace_> Flannel: why not?
[07:03] <b44> :D
[07:03] <Flannel> nexace_, b44: Because it'll remove him from all other secondary groups (you forgot -a)
[07:03] <jkbrntot> elssha: how much memory you have?
[07:03] <b44> ......
[07:04] <Flannel> b44, nexace_: "useradd me www-data" is much safer and easier too, for that matter.
[07:04] <elssha> 2gig ram; 320gig HD
[07:04] <Flannel> (that adds user "me" to group "www-data"
[07:04] <nexace_> Flannel: usermod has always been the traditional groupadd mod
[07:05] <viruxINf3ct3d> hi everyone
[07:05] <jkbrntot> elssha: 64 bit programs usually use more memory and hard drive space.  You can install either 32 bit or 64 bit if your processor supports it.  Since you have 2 gig ram, 32 bit should be good.  64bit for 4gb mem and up
[07:05] <viruxINf3ct3d> pls how can i connect my zte usb modem to ubuntu? any idea pls
[07:05] <b44> A file-owner can only set chgroup of the owned file to groups which the owner is a member of ??
[07:05] <Flannel> nexace_, b44: err sorry, adduser, not useradd.
[07:06] <Flannel> nexace_: You can use usermod, but you have to make sure you use it correctly.  Use of usermod is discouraged in favor of adduser. (see the manpage for adduser for evidence of this, first paragraph of description)
[07:06] <elssha> this thing came with 64bit win 7; thus my Q
[07:06] <elssha> probably also why it still lags a bit when I tired to run 1080 youtube on it in performance mode -_-;
[07:07] <jkbrntot> elssha: maybe it's memory can be upgraded to 4GB
[07:07] <jkbrntot> *its
[07:07] <elssha> nope
[07:07] <nexace_> Flannel: i'll check it out, but that said, usermod has never failed me
[07:07] <nexace_> Flannel: you are correct on the -a however for append
[07:07] <Flannel> nexace_: Sure, except you were just going to remove b44's ability to sudo. ;)
[07:07] <Flannel> nexace_: adduser is much safer, and you don't have to remember a bunch of switches
[07:08] <nexace_> Flannel: roger
[07:08] <viruxINf3ct3d> pls how can i connect my zte usb modem to ubuntu? any idea pls
[07:08] <jkbrntot> elssha: k...  only way to know for sure is to try it out.  but use 32 bits first
[07:08] <viruxINf3ct3d> hav google n found various response but none worked
[07:09] <swelter> hello, ubuntu.  i'm pretty new to the linux command line - is there anyone out there who can tell me how to pipe the contents of a file found with locate into less, instead of piping the path to that file into less?
[07:09] <elssha> good to know, ty
[07:10] <jkbrntot> elssha: :)
[07:10] <elssha> http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/LU.SFT02.082 << that one
[07:12] <jkbrntot> elssha: pretty good netbook
[07:12] <minibnz> does anyone know where ubuntu keeps the list of printers that have been connected BUT NOT INSTALLED is kept?
[07:12] <nexace_> what is a printer?
[07:13] <Mindspider> Hey
[07:13] <zeroedout> nexace_:uh oh, is wikipedia down? ;)
[07:13] <NineTeen67Comet> Does anyone know if there is a Wacom room for Linux? I've got a pen & touch and want the touch portion shut off so my hand doesn't keep messing things up ..
[07:13] <minibnz> nexace_ a printer is a thing that marks paper..
[07:13] <Mandrew> lol
[07:13] <Mindspider> Can somebody help me please? I updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and now .avi files hosted on divx websites won't play in the browser, media player or VLC.
[07:13] <nexace_> oh one of those things, i didnt know people still used paper
[07:14] <Flannel> swelter: "cat $(locate whatever) | less" or you could just "less $(locate whatever)"
[07:14] <NineTeen67Comet> Mindspider: did you re-install the ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[07:14] <minibnz> MindSpider look at gstreamer codecs
[07:14] <NineTeen67Comet> and the libdvdcss2 stuff ..
[07:14] <Mindspider> Nope. Is that needed for an upgrade?
[07:14] <Mindspider> I assumed it would stay. I don't remember ever having to do it before.
[07:14] <minibnz> it could have been turned off in the upgrade
[07:14] <elssha> it's going to be my only comp for 2months
[07:14] <minibnz> they live in the restricted group
[07:15] <swelter> flannel: awesome, thanks a lot!  been trying all kinds of combinations to make that work
[07:15] <NineTeen67Comet> Mindspider: since they aren't part of the normal package Ubuntu will often times disable the extras stuff; install the stock stuff and leave it to you to update the restricted stuff ..
[07:15] <elssha> so i need it to last all day but still be able to enjoy working on when plugged it
[07:15] <sudharsh> hey folks, I am trying to install centos guest on a ubuntu host using kvm. Problem is I don't have X installed on the host and starting the console seems to freeze up
[07:15] <Mindspider> It says it's there and at the latest version
[07:15] <elssha> and satisfy my need for looking good while doing it >_>
[07:15] <minibnz> Mindspider look at your repo's with synaptic and turn them on..
[07:16] <NineTeen67Comet> Anybody play with the Wacom stuff yet? I've got the wacom tablet tool; but it's not working .. the tablet works fine; just want to shut down the touch portion so only my pen tool works ..
[07:16] <Mindspider> minibnz: I can't. If I go to settings, repositories is greyed out.
[07:17] <Mandrew> NineTeen67Comet did you look at wacoms web site for linux rivers?
[07:18] <elssha> is there a place where i can find out more about lubuntu ( i read the wiki)... want to know if i can install all the prorgrams I can in ubuntu (and if it has synaptic, etc)
[07:18] <NineTeen67Comet> Mandrew: rodger that .. it's working fine; just need some fine tune stuff ..
[07:18] <jamey12> I used scalpel, which filled my hard drive with files I cant see and now I have no disk space. can anyone help me figure this out? (related: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1421892&page=1)
[07:18] <velofille> jkbrntot, nope it did not happen in previous versions. Only started with Natty. I am debating installing debian or an older ubuntu to take hardware out of the equation
[07:18] <velofille> sorry for delay, i was cooking and eating dinner :)
[07:18] <Mandrew> NineTeen67Comet ok
[07:19] <elssha> jamey12 did you try ctrl+h ?
[07:19] <minibnz> MindSpider is there a picture of a padlock on that window? you may have to click that and enter password
[07:19] <NineTeen67Comet> Mandrew: I'll keep on Googlin' .. most of the time I'll figure it out .. just been messing with this one since 11.04 popped ..
[07:19] <jamey12> elssha: what do you mean?
[07:19] <thunder1212> hi
[07:19] <velofille> wow, linux has gui things for undelete now ? neato
[07:19] <pinkfox> how do i use the terminal as root? (not sure what that means) but i need to do something that requires root access.
[07:20] <elssha> go into folder where it made the invisible files; hit ctrl key and h
[07:20] <Jordan_U> !sudo | pinkfox
[07:20] <Mindspider> Minibnz: Got it working. For some reason it didn't ask me for a password as usual and I assumed I'd already entered it.
[07:20] <Mandrew> NineTeen67Comet hope you find some easy fix for it :)
[07:20] <elssha> idk if it will work for that but it's how you can see hidden files in ubuntu
[07:20] <minibnz> MindSpider sweet..
[07:20] <pinkfox> thank you
[07:20] <NineTeen67Comet> pinkfox: you can use sudo (just like you'd do with your normal terminal) .. sudo aptitude install gimp .. for instance .. If you need true su .. you might want to know what you are doing a little more .. you can really do some damage with su ..
[07:20] <Jordan_U> jamey12: Files you can't see?
[07:21] <Mindspider> minibnz: Now what do I do?
[07:21] <velofille> jamey12, you need to find the files, they are probably in a hidden directory
[07:21] <jamey12> jordan_u: i tried ctrl+h but cant find them
[07:21] <velofille> ls -a will show hidden directories or files, but du will show the size of the directorues
[07:21] <minibnz> MindSpider do you see the restricted repo's there unchecked?
[07:21] <jkbrntot> elssha: ubuntu / linux is good at that. it uses only necessary CPU...  keeps things minimal...   you'll probably dual boot windows and ubuntu?  so you'll have an alternative if one OS goes down
[07:22] <elssha> yes
[07:22] <Airris> using 10.04 - metacity. The window manager seems to be ignoring all global shortcuts while in fullscreen mode. It didn't used to do this. The ability to minimize/alt+tab a fullscreen app is kinda useful, how can i fix things?
[07:22] <elssha> but i still don't want to install lubuntu then find out it doesn't have what i need, format the partition and install ubuntu
[07:22] <tobych> how can i add a user using a non-interactive command?
[07:23] <tobych> with a password, i mean
[07:23] <velofille> jamey12, you will probably need to be root to delete those also
[07:23] <jamey12> you guye are the best
[07:23] <jamey12> thank you SO MUCH
[07:23] <elssha> i have to have this fixed and sorted and then I gotta transfer all the files etc before friday
[07:23] <Mindspider> minibnz: I rechecked everything that was unchecked. None of them say "Restricted" in the name
[07:23] <velofille> jamey12, did you find them?
[07:23] <jamey12> velofille: finally yes, thank you so much
[07:24] <jkbrntot> velofille: sounds delicious.  im gonna go eat now.. made me hungry...
[07:24] <velofille> jkbrntot, it was actually - nachos complete with bacon, sour cream, cheese, etc
[07:24] <velofille> jamey12, where did it put them ?
[07:24] <elssha> i'll be happy with desktop cube (eyecandy wise), or at least a way that pressing ctrl+alt+-> cycles the desktops (vs stopping at last desktop and making me backtrack)
[07:25] <jkbrntot> velofille: yeah trying another kernel or distro or version would narrow it down
[07:25] <jamey12> im my home folder, the ls -a worked and i rm -r 'ed them
[07:25] <velofille> sweetbix
[07:25] <velofille> jkbrntot, its the whole ass of backing it all up and reinstalling - im so lazy :)
[07:26] <velofille> mind you, not going to use encrypted folders next time, that will be a bonus to loose
[07:26] <lawltoad> i just ran an update and grub now segfalts!!!!!
[07:26] <pinkfox> how do i install a .tar.bz2 package?
[07:26] <jkbrntot> velofille: yeah...  install on another partition (still need to backup)?  try liveCD?  liveUSB?
[07:26] <velofille> why i chose to opt for 'yes' i dont know. but i couldnt use half my files because the filename was too lo
[07:26] <velofille> long
[07:26] <velofille> i have 2 hdds in my laptop, both 620gb or so
[07:27] <velofille> maybe 640gb? bucketloads anyway
[07:27] <velofille> i can squish it into one hdd though just, so ill rsync it all to sdb
[07:28] <Jordan_U> !details | lawltoad
[07:28] <jkbrntot> velofille: choose yes?  you mean the upgrade?   also doing a clean install (of 11.04) fixes some of the bugs.     lucky you have lots of hdd space on hand
[07:29] <Joseto> Hello, can someone help me with JACK control?
[07:30] <lawltoad> Jordan_U, ubottu , sorry I'm running 10.10 and i recently ran update manager after maybe a month... one of the updates is for grub2... during it it said that grub2 failed and in the details tab it segfaulted .... runnin ggrub-install /dev/sda (my only hd) segfaults.  under dmesg i get this line: grub-probe[22571]: segfault at 0 ip 0022c498 sp bfc8471c error 4 in libc-2.12.1.so. googleing has not turned up anything for me
[07:30] <velofille> jkbrntot, on the 2nd install of kubuntu i opted 'yes' for encrypted home dirs, but ended up not being able to use some of my files due to long filenames
[07:30] <velofille> jkbrntot, 256chars is the limit, but if you have 36 chars and encrypt it, it makes it a whole lot longer, so reduces file name char limit
[07:31] <velofille> i had ebooks i was unable to copy onto the encrypted homedir :/
[07:31] <Jordan_U> lawltoad: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo grub-install --debug /dev/sda" and the full output of "dmesg"?
[07:31] <dijonyummy123> any linux tool that can mount a dmg file
[07:31] <jkbrntot> elssha: on regular 10.04 if you enable effects, you can use the SUPER (windows) key and tab to flip through your open programs
[07:32] <jkbrntot> velofille: ah complexities... good to know, tnx for sharing
[07:32] <velofille> dijonyummy123, mount will mount it - use -o loop
[07:32] <Joseto> How is it that you erase the fire?
[07:32] <velofille> dijonyummy123, actually i may be wrong on that, but it should work
[07:33] <elssha> my big thing is to flip desktops, not programs, and one of the things that killed 11.04 for me was that with the wall, once you went to the far left you had to jump back vs just going left once more to be on the far right
[07:33] <jkbrntot> elssha: ah you mean workspaces...
[07:33] <velofille> dijonyummy123, :~$ mount -t hfs -o loop myImage.dmg /macdisk
[07:34] <Reign_> Among the various problems of my Ubuntu, I am having memory/running issues with Celestia. Its a decent hard drive with 3 gig ram. And Ubuntu. It doesn't run right by itself. How do I check comp speed and such?
[07:34] <elssha> yup
[07:34] <Jordan_U> velofille: dijonyummy123: It would be -t hfsplus, and -t is rarely usefull as if it's going to work at all the filesystem will most likely be able to be detected automatically.
[07:35] <elssha> reign system monitor
[07:35] <velofille> Jordan_U, im old school, i still use ps -aux  :P
[07:35] <Reign_> elssha: looking at it, don't understand it yet
[07:35] <elssha> it has tabs up top
[07:35] <velofille> speaking of old school, does anyone still remember isapnp ?
[07:35] <Reign_> elssha: 100% memory usage. Uhm, very confused
[07:36] <elssha> what do you want to knwo?
[07:36] <elssha> know*
[07:36] <Reign_> elssha: how does a Ubuntu program require that much? it doesn't look that fancy.
[07:37] <dijonyummy123> thanks!
[07:37] <lawltoad> Jordan_U, sorry i havn't pastedbined you, but the --dubug revealed that /usr/sbin/grub-probe -v --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=drive --device /dev/sda segfaults    the device.map file does not exisit
[07:37] <elssha> one tab will tell you your system stats (how much ram, processor speed, etc), another will show you current usage, another will list running programs etc
[07:37] <elssha> what exactly are you running?
[07:37] <elssha> ubuntu version, programs, etc
[07:38] <elssha> and what's your processor
[07:38] <Reign_> elssha: its showing maxed CPU to 98%. Its weird. Celestia, a Ubuntu free solar system program
[07:38] <Reign_> elssha: Ubuntu 11.04 (natty)
[07:38] <elssha> but what IS your cpu
[07:38] <Reign_> saying my memory, presumably ram, is 2.8 Gigs amd 550.9 gig hd space
[07:39] <Reign_> elssha: specify, I'm tired and that's not computing
[07:39] <theos> hi! i need some help :) when i play youtube videos, then my downloaded audio doesnt sound. and when i play my downloaded songs, then youtube doesnt have sound. halp!
[07:39] <Reign_> theos: one program at a time, it helps
[07:39] <elssha> and what are you doing on it? at this moment that is
[07:39] <Reign_> Celestia
[07:39] <Reign_> and system monitor
[07:39] <Reign_> I'm running two computers
[07:39] <elssha> watching something on youtube, did you install compiz, etc
[07:40] <theos> Reign_, :) yeah. but it used to play both before
[07:40] <Reign_> than ignore me
[07:40] <lawltoad> Jordan_U, grub-mkdevicemap is the culprit!
[07:40] <Joseto> Can anyone here help me with JACK Contorl?
[07:40] <Joseto> control*
[07:40] <elssha> theos; what distro
[07:41] <Jordan_U> lawltoad: Are you not able to use pastebin for some reason?
[07:41] <theos> elssha, lucid
[07:41] <elssha> reign; go back to 10.04... IMHO it's a far more efficient UI than 11.04... and unity annoys me >_>
[07:41] <Reign_> Ubuntu comp is running Celestia (a free Ubuntu download available through Ubuntu) and System Monitor
[07:42] <theos> also audacity doesnt play sound :/
[07:43] <theos> can i put the blame of opencl driver? :D
[07:43] <Reign_> if I can't know how to fix it, can someone tell me how to delete programs. Its frustrating to have a program I can't use.l
[07:44] <hamnegga> R U running pulseaudio theos?
[07:44] <theos> hamnegga, yes. pulse and alsa arch
[07:44] <hamnegga> that would B my guess on the issue, because pulse sucks ass.
[07:44] <theos> alsa sucks double ass
[07:44] <hamnegga> see if your pulseaudio is running as a startup service
[07:45] <Jordan_U> !language | theos
[07:45] <theos> alright ubottu!
[07:45] <hamnegga> you can check under system  > preferences > startup applications, or you can just write "sudo update-rc.d pulseaudio defaults"
[07:46] <Jordan_U> hamnegga: Please watch your language as well.
[07:46] <theos> update-rc.d: warning: pulseaudio stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1). System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/pulseaudio already exist.
[07:46] <Reign_> figured it out. thanks for the input, Elssha. Wish I could have gotten the software to work.
[07:47] <lawltoad> Jordan_U, sorry, the --debug option wasn't in the man page... i solved it, though running grub-mkdevicemap --no-floppy segfaults too, it did produce the file, so grub-install worked now
[07:47] <lawltoad> Jordan_U, thanks for your help.... its an odd problem
[07:47] <hamnegga> anyone know how to get a decent video player plugin to work in firefox and gnome amd64?
[07:47] <velofille> mplayer
[07:48] <hamnegga> vlc can't be run as root, so I'm all set with it.  I have no mplayerplug-in package either
[07:48] <velofille> why would you need to run videos as root ?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> lawltoad: You're welcome. Not having a device.map should not cause a segfault. Try upgrading to grub 1.99 (from Ubuntu 11.04) and if you can reproduce the problem (by getting a segfault from grub-mkdevicemap or from grub-install after deleting /boot/grub/device.map) please file a bug report.
[07:49] <hamnegga> in order to get mplayerplug-in to work, I need to recompile mplayer from scratch and it's almost impossible with a backdated Lucid - hence why I hate running old distros when Backtrack decides to build off a *hitty base.
[07:49] <velofille> ouch
[07:49] <hamnegga> can't get any plugin to work on firefox with backtrack 5
[07:49] <velofille> upgrade not an option?
[07:50] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | hamnegga
[07:50] <hamnegga> no, not really.  I tried building my own pentesting distro with squeeze / linux mint debian and didn't get as far as I wanted
[07:50] <Airris> using 10.04 - metacity. The window manager seems to be ignoring all global shortcuts while in fullscreen mode. It didn't used to do this. The ability to minimize/alt+tab a fullscreen app is kinda useful, how can i fix things?
[07:50] <theos> hmm pulseaudio seems to be working fine :/
[07:50] <Jordan_U> hamnegga: And replacing a single letter in a swear word doesn't make it apropriate for this channel. Please don't do it again.
[07:50] <hamnegga> the trade-off between apps. is just about even, so I'm just trying to stick with backtrack 5
[07:51] <hamnegga> okay
[07:51] <hamnegga> I'm using Lucid, so don't worry about any distro derivative stuff
[07:51] <hamnegga> same difference
[07:52] <hamnegga> LTS baby, and BT channel isn't active enough for quick help
[07:52] <Jordan_U> hamnegga: This channel does not support Backtrack. Period.
[07:53] <midoski> I need some stupid linux help
[07:53] <hamnegga> whatever
[07:53] <theos> hi
[07:53] <midoski> 'allo
[07:53] <midoski> I have two users in the same group
[07:53] <chouchou> Hello, pls how do I add additional port to my localhost?
[07:53] <theos> hi! i need some help :) when i play youtube videos, then my downloaded audio doesnt sound. and when i play my downloaded songs, then youtube doesnt have sound. halp!
[07:53] <hamnegga> what's your issue.  I can still help folks I believe Jordan_U
[07:53] <midoski> I have User A and user B
[07:53] <rypervenche> !enter | midoski
[07:53] <midoski> ubottu: it gets kinda lengthy sorry
[07:53] <theos> :D
[07:53] <midoski> :(
[07:54] <hamnegga> !mplayer
[07:54] <midoski> rypervenche: sorry
[07:54] <hamnegga> !codecs
[07:54] <midoski> rypervenche: didnt realize it was so busy till is tarted typing
[07:54] <Jordan_U> hamnegga: I didn't say that you couldn't help people here. Just don't try to ask for support for problems you're having with Backtrack.
[07:54] <velofille> chouchou, you can't add more ports, an applicataion opens a port. You can add an extra IP if its externally connected
[07:54] <hamnegga> I'm not I'm running my Lucid partition right now
[07:54] <velofille> chouchou, (ie if it was a server)
[07:55] <midoski> I have User A and user B sharing a group (www-data), I set the permissions on a file in User A's /home/ to rwxrwx--x, and User B does not have permission to run it for some reason
[07:55] <chouchou> velofille, thanks, but it's like i have localhost here, and normally it's called via port 80,
[07:55] <midoski> I'm sure this is a misunderstanding on my part
[07:55] <velofille> chouchou, what are you doing ?
[07:55] <velofille> apache ?
[07:55] <hamnegga> midoski did you make it executable "chmod +x"?
[07:56] <chouchou> but the same port is shared with shared with other application i.e my adls rounter web interface, I want to add additional distinct port which i can use to configure my dyndns account
[07:56] <midoski> hamnegga: yes, but I can't even touch it
[07:56] <midoski> ie, su [userB]
[07:56] <midoski> $ touch [file]
[07:56] <midoski> permission denied
[07:56] <velofille> chouchou, sorry you cant do that, one application per port
[07:56] <chouchou> ok
[07:56] <hamnegga> try to cp it
[07:56] <midoski> it's treating User B like it's an other instead of a group
[07:56] <velofille> chouchou, apache can do proxying through to other applucations though (see mod_proxu_
[07:57] <velofille> chouchou, usually thats used for things like tomcat or similar
[07:57] <chouchou> ok,
[07:57] <midoski> hamnegga: "couldn't open file for reading" ugh
[07:57] <velofille> midoski, chmod +r ?
[07:57] <coolpyrofreak> midoski: Try as root
[07:57] <hamnegga> what's the address?  Is it public?
[07:57] <coolpyrofreak> midoski: or sudo
[07:58] <midoski> coolpyrofreak: exactly what im trying not to do
[07:58] <leagris> Hello, I Tryed a switch back from debian testing to natty. Oups, it wiped my partition after a failed attempt at installing buntu over the existing debian. It failed to delete system files and when I tryed option reinstalling ubuntu over ubuntu (partial install) it wiped the partition where resided home. Oups! Nonetheless I could not work with Unity as it hides too many thiings and is incompatible with compiz enhanced zoom. Still on the classic desktop. I'd
[07:58] <leagris> like to have a say as a visually impaired strongly relying on compiz ezoom and all the <super>+<wheel> to control zoom. Unity steal the <super> modifier and I feel it backward. How can I have a say on the next Ubuntu release about that issue?
[07:58] <chouchou> velofille, so what do I do ?
[07:58] <hamnegga> R u trying to access the file via user B from another workstation, or what?
[07:58] <velofille> chouchou, what is the other application using poirt 80?
[07:58] <coolpyrofreak> midoski: Why?  You're getting permission errors, which can be avoided with sudo.  Alternatively, you can su and run chown
[07:58] <Hanzo> uyudum
[07:58] <midoski> coolpyrofreak: because im trying to get really specific permissions set up
[07:59] <Hanzo> kac saat uyumuşum
[07:59] <chouchou> my adsl router web interface
[07:59] <midoski> and falling on my face
[07:59] <midoski> coolpyrofreak: my issue is specific to group permissions
[07:59] <midoski> not running the file
[07:59] <midoski> if that makes sense
[07:59] <velofille> chouchou, oh dear, then its not going to work. reconfigure your adsl router to run its web interface on another port ? thats usually do-able
[07:59] <Hanzo> 2 saat uyku
[07:59] <Hanzo> vay be
[07:59] <Hanzo> o kadar az uyudum mu
[07:59] <chouchou> ok
[07:59] <pishguy> hi all. who can help mefor this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10959496#post10959496
[07:59] <hamnegga> yeah, I have a script that simply does "chown -Rv www-data:www-data <filename>" and then restarts the apache server
[07:59] <R1cochet> what can i use to compress a bunch of image files? im looking for highest compression
[08:00] <hamnegga> I was having problems with my hosted files, until I also had to make them executable also
[08:00] <Jordan_U> !tr | Hanzo
[08:00] <hamnegga> what is the output of the said file with a ls -l
[08:00] <midoski> hamnegga: I have a lighttpd server that executes a script of a fastcgi server isn't found
[08:00] <midoski> but it runs the script as www-data
[08:01] <hamnegga> yeah, but I chown and chmod the file with sudo
[08:01] <hamnegga> does it say www-data:www-data under ls -l?
[08:01] <midoski> no because it belongs to a different user, and I'm trying to figure out why my group permissions aren't doing the job
[08:01] <midoski> i don't WANT www-data to chown it, I want user A to keep owningi t and allow user B to access it thanks to grouping + permissions
[08:02] <Hanzo> tamam
[08:02] <midoski> but for some reason it's being treated as other and not group
[08:02] <midoski> even though id userA and id userB show them as sharing that group
[08:02] <hamnegga> well it depends on whether your trying to access the file directly or through a web app
[08:02] <chouchou> how do I restart apache server again in ubuntu?
[08:02] <hamnegga> I'm not that up on web apps n' stuff, I just know you need those permissions for a webrowser to get them
[08:03] <midoski> hamnegga: really not the problem here :(
[08:03] <hamnegga> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:03] <Jordan_U> chouchou: sudo service apache2 restart
[08:03] <chouchou> thanks
[08:03] <hamnegga> either works
[08:03] <velofille> hamnegga, better to use the latter since its going to be the new cool way :D
[08:04] <hamnegga> yeah, that's all we need, to be more like microsoft and hide what we are really doing.
[08:05] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[08:05] <midoski> :( nobody useful around
[08:05] <midoski> i'll be back later
[08:06] <pishguy> who can help mefor this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10959496#post10959496
[08:08] <Corey> pishguy: I'd probably try it with sudo instead of gksudo.
[08:10] <Jonnn_> Can anyone help me fix my grub boot error?
[08:10] <Airris> using 10.04 - metacity. The window manager seems to be ignoring all global shortcuts while in fullscreen mode. It didn't used to do this. The ability to minimize/alt+tab a fullscreen app is kinda useful, how can i fix things?
[08:11] <crystal1> i
[08:11] <bullgard4> Airris: Please explain your problem more clearly.
[08:11] <histo> !ask Jonnn_
[08:11] <histo> !ask | Jonnn_
[08:12] <Airris> bullgard4 : alt+tab/alt+F9/alt+click/etc don't work anymore for any fullscreen app. I distinctly remember on this same OS, same system, being able to do that
[08:13] <ssdfosd> child actress Shirley Temple dies at the age of 83
[08:13] <Airris> Not sure what happened but something must have broke or a setting i don't know about got changed, but it looks like none of the global hotkeys are being trapped by the window manager anymore
[08:13] <babu__> how to run a .exe in wine..
[08:14] <Jonnn_> I boot my dual boot (windows 7, ubuntu 10.10) and get "error: unknown filesystem."  I want to uninstall my ubuntu partition completely but I cant boot into ubuntu or windows to do that.  Is there any way to fix my grub loader or switch back to the windows one?  I've looked online and nothing has worked
[08:14] <babu__> it shows executable is blocked
[08:14] <hamnegga> what file backs-up gnome panels?
[08:14] <hamnegga> anyone, anyone?
[08:15] <soreau> Airris: If the fullscreen app in question grabs the input, no window manager or any other process can do anything with it
[08:15] <hamnegga> fixmbr with a windows 98 cd
[08:15] <hamnegga> :)
[08:15] <Jonnn_> I tried it with my windows 7 but I dont have a windows 98 cd
[08:15] <crystal1> to john > re install 'grub'
[08:15] <Airris> soreau: that doesn't explain how it used to work before on the same software (both for the OS and the windowed app)
[08:15] <pumafyre> anyone have experience using Dragon Naturally Speaking in Wine?
[08:15] <Corey> ssargennto: Cite?
[08:15] <Airris> (err, the fullscreen app)
[08:16] <bullgard4> Airris: Alt+Tab normally works all right on a full-screen application in GNOME. So your GNOME is misconfured and needs repair. May be you should use gconf-editor for that in the metacity subnode.
[08:16] <hamnegga> try using ms-sy
[08:16] <hamnegga> ms-sys
[08:16] <bullgard4> misconfigured
[08:16] <pumafyre> like this tigerswan
[08:16] <soreau> Airris: Could be that you're misremembering or there was some fluke
[08:16] <Starminn> I am following the instructions here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/02/covergloobus-1-6-wow-lives-up-to-its-name/ but the PPA seems to be bad, so I am trying to make it from the tar file; however I receive this error: "configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub" *** Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit. Any assistance is appreciated.
[08:16] <Airris> bullgard4, there anyway to restore gnome to defaults or something? I don't think i have many special settings at that level that would need to be preserved
[08:17] <forced> hey is it still possible to upgrade ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 or anything?
[08:17] <hamnegga> Jonn_ windows 7 cd, restore bootup option, usually works, I forget the details but you need to go to console and type ntldr options etc.  I think it's nt60 or something
[08:17] <pumafyre> does anyone know if there's a forum for using Wine?
[08:17] <bullgard4> Airris: Yes. Let me search for you.
[08:17] <forced> I am getting 404 erros while trying to install update manager core
[08:17] <hamnegga> look it up
[08:17] <Jonnn_> I did the boot repair option and it said nothing is wrong with it
[08:17] <crystal1> who tested lubuntu ? My left handed mouse crash. Only the "right hand" mode work for me..
[08:17] <pinkfox> is it possible to DOWNGRADE from 11.04 to a previous version of ubuntu?
[08:17] <Airris> pumafyre, there is, but i'll warn you they're typically not all that helpful
[08:18] <Corey> pinkfox: Not any supported way, no.
[08:18] <hamnegga> did you run gparted and see if the right partition is flagged boot/active
[08:18] <Airris> pumafyre, http://forum.winehq.org/
[08:18] <Jonnn_> Which one should be active?
[08:18] <pumafyre> ha I know I just got kicked out of their room, Airris
[08:18] <pumafyre> thank you Airris
[08:18] <Airris> np
[08:18] <Starminn> !wine > pumafyre (I agree with Airris though)
[08:18] <Jonnn_> I have my windows one set active now, but it was my ubuntu partition before
[08:18] <hamnegga> the one your trying to boot obviously, which is where you probably overwrote your mbr with grub
[08:18] <bullgard4> Airris: Try '~$ gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel' und danach: '~$ pkill gnome-panel'.
[08:18] <Guest67451> Should I install gentoo?
[08:19] <hamnegga> that's why I always put grub on the native linux partition and then mark that as active instead of overwriting /dev/sda1
[08:19] <Guest67451> And does $apt-get install gentoo count?
[08:19] <bullgard4> Airris: Try '~$ gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel'  followed by: '~$ pkill gnome-panel'.
[08:19] <Starminn> !upgrade | forced
[08:19] <Jonnn_> I dont know where I put grub, i just did the default install
[08:19] <Airris> :D thanks bullgard4 (i was about to ask "is that german in the middle?" )
[08:19] <pishguy> corey: sudo can't getting password from gui
[08:19] <hamnegga> that's your problem Jonn_ you should learn what your doing and you'll soon understand what to do.
[08:20] <BuenGenio> hello
[08:20] <BuenGenio> Apache2 on my 11.04 server doesn't restart properly
[08:20] <Corey> pishguy: No, but you can invoke the entire script via sudo.
[08:20] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[08:20] <peterhil`> Hi! Where is the Chromium browser prefs file located?
[08:20] <BuenGenio> after service apache2 restart - it just hangs saying ... waiting ...........................
[08:20] <Corey> bullgard4: How does it restart then?
[08:20] <BuenGenio> but never restarts
[08:20] <crystal1> hello
[08:20] <hamnegga> what partition do you have windows on, and what partition do you have linux on?  restore mbr to your windows parition by setting that partition active and running the windows cmd repair tool and /fixmbr
[08:20] <BuenGenio> additionally apache2 can only be killed with -S KILL
[08:21] <Corey> BuenGenio: What does the log say when you're doing that?
[08:21] <pishguy> Corey: how to ?
[08:21] <bullgard4> Airris: What is "it"?
[08:21] <BuenGenio> Corey, error.log or which one?
[08:22] <Corey> BuenGenio: Either or.
[08:22] <Corey> BuenGenio: daemon.log may also be of use.
[08:22] <Airris> bullgard4, That was corey asking, and i think he meant what restarts gnome after those two commands
[08:22] <Jonnn_> My Windows partition is active, so now I run startup repair and then do /fixmbr in command prompt?
[08:23] <bullgard4> Corey: After this operation you can restart GNOME in the usual way. For example: sudo service gem stop && sudo service gdm restart.
[08:23] <bullgard4> Corey: After this operation you can restart GNOME in the usual way. For example: sudo service gdm stop && sudo service gdm restart.
[08:23] <BuenGenio> Corey, [Mon Jun 20 11:23:36 2011] [warn] child process 26322 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM
[08:24] <BuenGenio> [Mon Jun 20 11:23:43 2011] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[08:24] <hamnegga> Jonn_  google using bootrec.exe via the windows 7 installation disc
[08:24] <Corey> bullgard4: ?
[08:24] <BuenGenio> Corey, and now still sits there saying waiting.................
[08:24] <bullgard4> Corey: ?
[08:24] <Corey> BuenGenio: So it is actually dying.  Interesting.
[08:24] <BuenGenio> but doesn't come back up
[08:24] <Corey> bullgard4: I didn't have a question, so why are you telling me this? :)
[08:24] <bullgard4> Corey: I made a mistake.
[08:24] <Corey> BuenGenio: You running a stock config?
[08:25] <bullgard4> Airris: After this operation you can restart GNOME in the usual way. For example: sudo service gdm stop && sudo service gdm restart.
[08:25] <Starminn> I am following the instructions here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/02/covergloobus-1-6-wow-lives-up-to-its-name/ but the PPA seems to be bad, so I am trying to make it from the tar file; however I receive this error: "configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub" *** Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit. Any assistance is appreciated.
[08:25] <BuenGenio>  Corey, ok now it actually dropped me back to shell
[08:25] <BuenGenio> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
[08:25] <BuenGenio> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[08:25] <BuenGenio> Unable to open logs
[08:25] <BuenGenio> that's it
[08:26] <BuenGenio> Corey:  ps aux | grep apache
[08:26] <vorbis5> hey guys, which vim is preferable: vim, vim-gnome, vim-gtk or vim-nox?
[08:26] <BuenGenio> root     22413  0.0  0.6  56344 13536 ?        Ss   10:12   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
[08:26] <BuenGenio> but I can only kill that process via SIGKILL
[08:26] <hamnegga> nano is my preference
[08:27] <vorbis5> ha
[08:27] <hamnegga> started to learn vim with vim, but didn't really see the point
[08:27] <vorbis5> alright
[08:28] <hamnegga> if your gonna program, wouldn't you just learn it's own language's respective shell anyways?
[08:30] <pumafyre> thank you Starminn
[08:31] <Airris> bullgard4, didn't work. although i'm just going to restore gnome as a whole to defaults. see what that does.
[08:32] <Jonnn_> hamnegga  When I try fixmbr it says it is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable or batch file.  Any idea what that means?
[08:34] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[08:34] <forced> so is ubuntu 9.04 EOL? no more repos?
[08:35] <bullgard4> forced: more or less: Yes.
[08:35] <forced> darn well thanks :)
[08:35] <forced> il just have to migrate that stupid server lol
[08:37] <santak> i am compiling a c program on my windows drive using gcc program.c and it produces a.out executable and on executing it by writing ./a.out in terminal it shows ./a.out: permission denied
[08:38] <santak> please help
[08:39] <hamnegga> chmod +x a.out
[08:39] <hamnegga> then ./a.out
[08:40] <santak> i tried chmod even with sudo su  but it's not working
[08:41] <hamnegga> really
[08:41] <hamnegga> that's strange
[08:41] <hamnegga> did you try using chown -Rv <username>:<username> <filename>
[08:42] <santak> yeah i come across an article saying about that in ubuntu 11.04 the ntfs drives are being mounted in noexec mode can anyone suggest a way to modify it
[08:42] <MrEgg964> Hey all - I have 2 NICs on a single computer. How do I know which one Skype is using and, additionally, how do I force Skype to use a particular NIC?
[08:43] <hamnegga> edit your mtab or fstab and see if they are getting the rw or just r
[08:43] <hamnegga> umount and then mount it to a new folder
[08:43] <wildbat> santak: remount it or cp to you home dir
[08:44] <hamnegga> mine work fine and here's what they look like in /etc/mtab:
[08:44] <hamnegga> /dev/sda1 /media/Blackcomb-Vienna fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions 0 0
[08:44] <hamnegga> /dev/sdb1 /media/Blackcomb-Vienna_ fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions 0 0
[08:47] <mairt> Hiii
[08:47] <mairt> SOS
[08:47] <mairt> EMERGENCY HERE
[08:47] <mairt> GConf error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: GetIOR failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus))
[08:47] <velofille> ps aux |grep gconf
[08:48] <mairt> hii
[08:48] <velofille>  ?
[08:48] <mairt> velofille: cant open terminal
[08:48] <mairt> panel isnt there
[08:48] <hamnegga> ctl+alt+F1
[08:48] <velofille> bet me too that hamnegga :)
[08:48] <hamnegga> F1-F6
[08:48] <mairt> alt+f2 isnt working
[08:48] <velofille> what hamnegga says
[08:49] <velofille> is this on natty ? 11.04 ?
[08:49] <hamnegga> I don't know why, but my xserver dies when I use ctl+alt+F1 and then try to come back via F7
[08:50] <hamnegga> not worried about it though
[08:50] <velofille> mairt, start a dbus session bus or use dbus-launch
[08:50] <hamnegga> yeah, I would do /etc/init.d/dbus restart, which is what I had to do a lot using KDE 3.5
[08:50] <eycel> anyone help me?
[08:50] <velofille> start a dbus session bus or use dbus-launch
[08:50] <mairt> mairt how do i do that
[08:51] <velofille> eycel, if you ask
[08:51] <mairt> and when i type your command of ps aux it shows something
[08:51] <eycel>  Im running the latest build of solaris, Im attempting to install flash for firefox but Im stuck at getting root acess, I cant edit the sudoers file either
[08:51] <velofille> mairt, what hamnegga said '/etc/init.d/dbus restart'
[08:51] <Mod-R-Focker> im a noobe .. that said .. apache2 question my www folder is in /var/www  and  i cannot add to that folder becouse im not root .. how can i change that folders permissions ??
[08:51] <velofille> some say logging out and loggoing back in fixed that
[08:51] <SADsd> hi dudes.. i have a big problem.. i used a theme as a user ( Lam ) in my ubuntu 9.10 and it was corrupted and now i can't login
[08:51] <mairt> velofille: loggin out didnt fix it
[08:52] <mairt> should i type /etc/init.d/dbus restart in terminal?
[08:52] <SADsd> in the login screen it doesn't login and just show me the login screen all the time
[08:52] <velofille> yes
[08:52] <hamnegga> chown -Rv <username>:<username> <directory or filename>  for apache2:  chown -Rv www-data:www-data /var/www/*
[08:52] <velofille> SADsd, whats the erroor message?
[08:52] <SADsd> what can i do to remove the settings ? to put another theme in the user.. I am from root
[08:52] <Mod-R-Focker> thanks
[08:52] <hamnegga> then restart your apache2 server
[08:52] <velofille> SADsd, try using lowercase lam ? or go to console and remove/re-add it
[08:52] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[08:53] <SADsd> no error message. I am just trying to login and it stucks , and blinks , and show me the login screen
[08:53] <smftre> What is the best mail server to configure for ubuntu 10.04 LTS ?
[08:53] <hamnegga> SADsd, type startx and tell us what it says
[08:53] <velofille> smftre, postfix
[08:53] <SADsd> velofille, what shoud i do ?
[08:53] <SADsd> i am logged in now with root
[08:53] <velofille> smftre, its good for smaller or even medium sites, also easy to setup
[08:54] <SADsd> only with a user that doesn't use the settings of my user i can login
[08:54] <velofille> SADsd, grep -i Lam /etc/passwd
[08:54] <smftre> velofille, thanks, is it easy to migrate all mail from one server to another running postfix?
[08:54] <hamnegga> probably compiz messed it up SADsd.  Delete it's config files
[08:54] <velofille> SADsd, that will show if the user still exists
[08:54] <SADsd> i don't have compiz in my user
[08:54] <SADsd> enabled*
[08:54] <velofille> smftre, usually yes, just a matter of putting it on the right place
[08:54] <Mod-R-Focker> hamnegga: is it my user name fist and and then root?
[08:55] <smftre> so can basically just copy the "mail" folder over to the other server, as long as the same email addresses are added there too?
[08:55] <hamnegga> if it's for apache2 then just use www-data for both
[08:55] <SADsd> Lam:x:1000:1000:Lam,,,:/home/Lam:/bin/bash
[08:55] <hamnegga> if you plan on accessing the files on the server
[08:55] <velofille> SADsd, you can go into the home directory and reomve any config files  , cd /home/username and rm .compiz .gtk* etc or any other configs
[08:55] <hamnegga> I'm not an expert on permissions, but I usually use the same username for both
[08:56] <hamnegga> :)
[08:56] <SADsd> all the config files.. Which of them ?
[08:56] <velofille> SADsd, .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd
[08:56] <hamnegga> r u sure it's not a driver issue SADsd
[08:56] <velofille> SADsd, all of those files are fine to remove usually
[08:56] <hamnegga> probably not if you can login with another user
[08:56] <velofille> SADsd, it just resets the desktop settings
[08:57] <Hanzo> selamlar herkese günaydin
[08:57] <SADsd> yes it is not a driver issue
[08:57] <hamnegga> yeah, you can probably just delete everything, but your gonna loose your panels, etc
[08:57] <SADsd> just happened when i changed the theme
[08:57] <SADsd> ok so i delete this ? .gtkrc-2.0 ?
[08:57] <velofille> ahhnow hes probably in tyes
[08:57] <velofille> oops
[08:57] <velofille> yes, thats fine to delete
[08:57] <Hanzo> ooooo deva da burdaymıs
[08:57] <SADsd> what will i loose ?
[08:57] <Hanzo> hocam ozledım senle konusmayı yahu )))
[08:57] <SADsd> if i delete the folders ?
[08:58] <velofille> nothing much, just gnome settings
[08:58] <Hanzo> oooo bu bizi unutmus
[08:58] <velofille> themes, some saved setups and layouts (ie things in panels or similar)
[08:58] <hamnegga> yeah, I lose mine every time I update, because I hate using "Desktop" as a directory.  Anyone know how I can permanently use /root/ as my home directory even after upgrades?
[08:58] <velofille> alternatively you can look through them and find the file with the theme set
[08:59] <velofille> remove that
[08:59] <Lasers> Anybody here used netatalk to communicate between Mac & Linux? I'm trying to set it up. I don't know where I went wrong with. :)
[08:59] <SADsd> ok thanks..i will login again..
[08:59] <Hanzo> simdi ayip ettin abi nasil unutursun
[08:59] <eycel> can some one help me get root access in solaris?
[08:59] <apb> "Ubuntu Software Center" won't show a list of installed software; I just see a spinning wheel. Is there a cache I can delete or a way of manually updating an index?
[08:59] <hamnegga> I typically edit nautilus desktop with gconf-editor, but then I end up having to do it again after an upgrade, and then I lose all my panel configs which is wicked annoying
[08:59] <Mod-R-Focker> hamnegga: sweet thank man it worked .. the first command
[08:59] <hamnegga> nice
[09:00] <Hanzo> Adim hüseyin devastator la önceden tanisiyordukta unutmus
[09:01] <smftre> How different is Exim from Postfix? As I will need to move mail from one server running Exim to another one running Postfix!?
[09:01] <hamnegga> velofille, do you know which file I can backup for my gnome panels?
[09:01] <Lasers> hamnegga: ~/.gnome or ~/.gnome2 -- There should be gnome-panel directory.
[09:02] <Hanzo> abi senin kafa 1001 olduysa biz napalim
[09:02] <velofille> nope, but i expect it will be one of the .gtk* .gconf* or .gnome* dirs
[09:02] <velofille> they seem to have split it up now, unlike kde which uses just the one dir
[09:02] <Untrustworthy> hey, I realize that karmic is probably not supported any longer, but maybe someone could give me a quick answer for something... I'm running an old live CD of karmic just to obtain some files off of a harddrive with a corrupt OS. But I think it's giving me a false positive, since it's telling me that my HD has "many bad sectors".. is this something that version of ubuntu has been known to do in the past?
[09:03] <james296> has anyone here noticed the desktop icons appear under the unity launcher when upgrading to nautilus-elementary?
[09:03] <james296> I get that, is there any way to fix this issue?
[09:03] <velofille> Untrustworthy, its probably on its way out
[09:03] <koshieFinalReliz> Hi, I'm trying to chroot on CentOS 5.6 with a recovery mod of Ubuntu 10.04, the both are in 64 bits, I'm doing that : http://pastebin.com/G83eV1Um
[09:03] <koshieFinalReliz> An idea ?
[09:03] <velofille> Untrustworthy, thats not really distro related, backup immediately
[09:03] <koshieFinalReliz> It don't work
[09:04] <Untrustworthy> yeah, I'm in the middle of doing that
[09:04] <Lasers> Untrustworthy: The older version detected bad sectors. The newer version are going to say the same thing.
[09:04] <Untrustworthy> yikes, all right
[09:04] <james296> anyone?
[09:04] <hamnegga> /root/.gnome2/panel2.d/ will backup everything on my panels u think?
[09:05] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, i would try booting the cd in recovery mode or edit the grub conf
[09:05] <Untrustworthy> well, thanks for the input
[09:05] <hamnegga> anyone know of any good games for linux that are pretty good graphics?
[09:05] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, it's a dedicated server… :-
[09:05] <koshieFinalReliz> :-(
[09:05] <apb> smftre: exim and postfix server configuration is completely different
[09:05] <Hanzo> dogrudur
[09:05] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, and I need to edit a file in /etc.
[09:05] <Untrustworthy> Hamnegga, cube 2
[09:05] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, when the cd gives you the boot menu, press e to edit, then edit the grub config, change the root= to the right place
[09:05] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, read me :)
[09:05] <Hanzo> iyi , sen neler yapiyorsun
[09:05] <james296> can anyone plz help me out with what I asked?
[09:06] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, bugger :)
[09:06] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, oh okay :D
[09:06] <koshieFinalReliz> you or me ? ;)
[09:06] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, what are you trying to do exactly
[09:06] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, chroot
[09:06] <koshieFinalReliz> for edit a file in /etc.
[09:07] <velofille> you did chroot into /media/system , yoiu just had no shell to run once there
[09:07] <james296> PLZ someone help me
[09:07] <velofille> is there /media/system/bin/bash ?
[09:07] <velofille> can you put one there even if its a binary ?
[09:07] <K1ng> anyone from thailand?
[09:07] <hamnegga> all u guys can save all this hassle by simply making your user uid set to equal root uid=-0
[09:07] <hamnegga> uid=0
[09:07] <velofille> james296, not sure what you asked
[09:08] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, Give me a seconde
[09:08] <velofille> hamnegga, hey thats nasty
[09:08] <hamnegga> I always use root, never have these permissions problems :)
[09:08] <james296> I asked if its possible to prevent the desktop icons from going under the unity bar instead of next to it
[09:08] <james296> when you click auto arrange
[09:08] <Hanzo> simdi kurabilirsin
[09:08] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, I don't have /bin… In /media/system I've /proc, /grub, /dev, and lost+found/
[09:08] <velofille> i once jokingly told a friend to /exec rm -rf /* when he irc'd as root
[09:08] <hamnegga> yeah, I'd like to see anyone pwn my system if it's unsafe, I have multiple services open and I'm NAT so, if they're they're then own the vulns please
[09:09] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, do you have bin on another partition? that needs to be there to work
[09:09] <Hanzo> super
[09:09] <velofille> Popsicle_, dont spam me
[09:09] <Hanzo> yes
[09:09] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, I have no more… It's very odd right ?
[09:09] <velofille> hamnegga, anyway, he had windows mounted and lost everything
[09:09] <james296> did you get what I asked?
[09:10] <koshieFinalReliz> Popsicle_ spam me in PM.
[09:10] <hamnegga> what's the matter with the windows partition
[09:10] <velofille> james296, yep, hang on, getting mega spammed by Popsicle_ , just had to put him on ignore
[09:10] <velofille> you too koshieFinalReliz ?
[09:10] <koshieFinalReliz> Anyone can ban him from internet :} ?!
[09:10] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, Yes.
[09:10] <hamnegga> use ntfs-3g and force mount it, I'm sure everything is still there
[09:10] <velofille> somebody want to ban Popsicle_ ?
[09:10] <james296> yes he spammed me
[09:10] <james296> too
[09:10] <james296> called me the N word meanwhile Im white...
[09:10] <velofille> by ban i mean kick in the jewels
[09:10] <koshieFinalReliz> We call op ?
[09:10] <avernos> i am playing with ssh -X and there is something i dont understand. when i call gnome-session, it overlaps my current local gnome session, i can see both local apps and remote apps, is this normal?
[09:11] <hamnegga> I'll do one better than ban? ;)
[09:11] <velofille> james296, sorry, notsure how to do what you are asking, right click on desk top and line up icons fix it ?
[09:11] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, I coming back
[09:11] <koshieFinalReliz> +'m
[09:11] <hamnegga> yeah, open it on a different port
[09:11] <velofille> ok where were we koshieFinalReliz , mounting a /bin dir ?
[09:11] <james296> no it doesnt, thats what Im saying
[09:12] <james296> which is why I want to know how to correct that issue
[09:12] <velofille> james296, not sure, i got sick of unity :/
[09:12] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, how ?
[09:12] <james296> Im doing my best to get used to it lol
[09:12] <koshieFinalReliz> When I do a chroot I've never a problem, first time… (sorry for my english)
[09:12] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, where is your /bin dir ? is it normally mounted ?
[09:12] <koshieFinalReliz> I don't think so.
[09:12] <hamnegga> yeah, velofille, how is unity to gnome or kde?
[09:12] <james296> Inity sucks
[09:12] <hamnegga> haven't tried it yhet
[09:12] <james296> Unity*
[09:12] <th^^> unity <3
[09:12] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, check the etc/fstab to see if and where its normally mounted if it is. If its not there then you need to reinstall
[09:13] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, how did it get so broken in the first place? hacked?
[09:13] <james296> has anyone here noticed in Kubuntu Amarok playlist is like a dark blue instead of the standard blue?
[09:14] <james296> or is it purplish? I forget
[09:14] <velofille> dont use it sorry :)
[09:14] <james296> and if so, how can that be fixed because I enjoy using KDE as well
[09:14] <velofille> how did i end up spending my evebning doing for free what i get paid to do during the day?
[09:14] <apb> solved my problem with broken Ubuntu Softwre Center: http_proxy environment variable was wrong
[09:15] <velofille> yeah that helps when you have a proxy :)
[09:15] <chouchou> Hello, pls can someone check on 41.218.202.140:8031 ?
[09:15] <chouchou> via http
[09:15] <velofille> connection refused chouchou
[09:15] <velofille> did you allow ports to go through on the adsl router ?
[09:15] <kalkin> hi
[09:15] <kalkin> hi
[09:15] <velofille> hi
[09:15] <chouchou> euh...
[09:16] <chouchou> I think it's set by default
[09:16] <kalkin> i updated my ubuntu 64bit server from 10.10 to 11.4
[09:16] <chouchou> iet me quickly check
[09:16] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[09:16] <velofille> chouchou, most adsl routers deny by default
[09:16] <hamnegga> nope
[09:16] <chouchou> I am using smartax 886
[09:16] <kalkin> now it doesn't boot, i have some strange setup with /boot on /dev/md1 and root on /dev/md2
[09:16] <velofille> bullgard4, might want to ask in a gnome chanel, i have seen some but dont recall what they were
[09:16] <hamnegga> chouchou:  check this http://mcurran-exploit.dyndns.org
[09:16] <kalkin> i tried chrooting and doing update-grub but it doen't help
[09:16] <hamnegga> urs ain't working
[09:17] <hamnegga> r u static and have port forwarding set on your router (i.e. dmz or nat?)
[09:17] <bullgard4> velofille: I have done so. Thank you.
[09:17] <velofille> kalkin, md* is a raid
[09:17] <velofille> kalkin, = koshieFinalReliz ?
[09:17] <chouchou> Hamlin, is it from your local pc?
[09:18] <kalkin> velofille: i know that md ist raid
[09:18] <kalkin> velofille:  koshieFinalReliz ?
[09:18] <kalkin> velofille: what do you mean with that?
[09:18] <velofille> never mind
[09:18] <velofille> getting confused between people :)
[09:18] <hamnegga> I'm psyched verizon stopped blocking my incoming port 80 finally, so I no longer have to use different ports.  Too bad I already learned how to setup virtualhosts n' everything though, keeps things neat
[09:19] <velofille> that sounds like a normal setup regarding boot being on /dev/md1 and root on md2 , you may just need to re-run grub to get it going again
[09:19] <hamnegga> md1 what is that for SDD's?
[09:19] <hamnegga> SSD's I mean?
[09:19] <velofille> nope, raid
[09:19] <hamnegga> oh
[09:20] <kalkin> has anyone an idea or hint where the problem is?
[09:20] <velofille> kalkin, grub by the sounds
[09:20] <velofille> kalkin, run grub-installer ?
[09:20] <kalkin> velofille: i did update-grub, i thought thats enough?
[09:20] <hamnegga> nah
[09:21] <kalkin> but i can try with grub-installer
[09:21] <velofille> kalkin, whats the error ?
[09:21] <hamnegga> I don't like grub2
[09:21] <hamnegga> made it way too complicated
[09:21] <hamnegga> and custom file doesnt' even work
[09:21] <velofille> you need to have lots of linux fu
[09:21] <hamnegga> anyone here experiment with it's newer res. capabilities?
[09:22] <velofille> <- Linux guru
[09:22] <kalkin> velofille: don't know can't see it because it's to fast (using a java serial konsole, via my server provider) i'm beeing thrown in too bash like grub2 prompt
[09:22] <velofille> though, to be fair, i dont usually mess about with the pretty side of things
[09:22] <hamnegga> yeah, I just edit grub.cfg as I please still :)
[09:23] <velofille> kalkin, hmm so what commands do you have? linux ones or grub ones? (grub has a neat console to run commands)
[09:23] <velofille> kalkin, does it spit out normal booting up messages before dieing ?
[09:23] <velofille> screenshot or pastebin may help kalkin :)
[09:23] <Hanzo> ben AFK yim 10 dk
[09:23] <Hanzo> gelirim
[09:24] <kalkin> velofille: can't do screenshot or pastebin
[09:24] <kalkin> it's an java serial console, it's a remote server
[09:24] <velofille> may pay to contact the provider or pay somebody to look at it and get it going if you need it urgently
[09:24] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, It's initialy a problem with ssh, sorry but I g2g, but thanks for you help
[09:24] <koshieFinalReliz> I will ask on a forum
[09:25] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, np, good luck
[09:25] <koshieFinalReliz> I'm not kalkin :)
[09:25] <koshieFinalReliz> Good bye
[09:25] <velofille> yeah i guessed
[09:25] <hamnegga> I want 3D acceleration with grub and won't be satified until I see it.  Don't know why it took so long for friggen framebuffer support
[09:26] <velofille> framebuffer has been around for years and years, and why would you want 3d accel on bootup?
[09:26] <th^^> to see spinning cube in boot ofc
[09:26] <velofille> man, i recall when frame buffer came out, back in those days we lifved in console so it was AMAZING!
[09:26] <velofille> wasted cpu cycles :)
[09:27] <hamnegga> :0
[09:28] <Kudzu> .darkmyst.com
[09:29] <kalkin> if i doo grub-install what device should be INSTALL_DEVICE?
[09:29] <kalkin> /dev/md1 (which is /boot)?
[09:30] <velofille> kalkin, the boot usually
[09:30] <velofille> however usually the first drive first partition
[09:30] <hamnegga> yeah, just check with gparted and see which is active, probably that one if you can tell
[09:30] <velofille> if you are able to run grub-install then you are already in linux kalkin
[09:31] <rokr1> hello all
[09:31] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[09:31] <hamnegga> it'll show boot under the flags column
[09:31] <rokr1> I cannot bridge iwl3945
[09:31] <kalkin> velofille: no i'm in a resque system, i just chrooted
[09:31] <rokr1> driver
[09:31] <hamnegga> what kind of question is that bullgard4 for christ's sake
[09:31] <velofille> kalkin, ahh ok
[09:31] <rokr1> which I can do in debian
[09:31] <kalkin> the problem is /boot on a raid
[09:31] <yogesh> h
[09:31] <hamnegga> I'm gonna get some rest, 4:30 A.M. here.
[09:31] <hamnegga> talk to u guys lata
[09:31] <kalkin> i'm not sure if i can just do grub-install /dev/md1 without breaking anything
[09:31] <velofille> sure you can
[09:31] <kalkin> oder grub-install /dev/sda
[09:31] <hamnegga> find grub
[09:32] <velofille> it only writes to the first 512 bytes of a partition/drive
[09:32] <hamnegga> see where it finds it
[09:32] <velofille> i need to go to bed anyway, its getting late
[09:32] <kalkin> WTF? grub and grub2 isn't installed
[09:33] <velofille> bingo
[09:33] <kalkin> only grub-common and grub-pc?
[09:33] <kalkin> but lilo is installed
[09:33] <kalkin> so i just have to fix lilo
[09:34] <msait> hii
[09:34] <msait> emergency here
[09:34] <msait> computer crashing due to power ouitage
[09:34] <msait> and eror sown isn
[09:34] <msait> GConf error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: GetIOR failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus))
[09:34] <hamnegga> yeah, syslinux is cool too
[09:34] <msait> please help
[09:34] <FloodBot1> msait: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:34] <hamnegga> pretty much the same
[09:34] <msait> panel and nothing is being shown
[09:34] <msait> ok FloodBot1
[09:35] <msait> FloodBot1: cant open amything
[09:35] <msait> it randomly closes
[09:35] <rokr1> guys
[09:36] <msait> any help please
[09:36] <rokr1> any one who was successful with iwl3945 bridging ?
[09:36] <rokr1> I am stuck
[09:37] <msait> HELP PLEASE
[09:37] <msait> http://pastebin.com/cBDGXvwQ
[09:37] <msait> I earlier asked for help but firefox just went invisible
[09:38] <q0_0p> need help with webcam
[09:38] <q0_0p> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 10f1:1a1e Importek Laptop Integrated Webcam 1.3M
[09:38] <q0_0p> runs but terrible lag
[09:38] <msait> plzzz
[09:38] <msait> any1 help please
[09:39] <udoprog> I'm looking for gnome-appearance-properties while running oneiric dev, apt-file claims that it resides in gnome-control-center (after purge and update), but when installing the package the command (/usr/bin/gnome-appearance-properties) is nowhere to be found, any help?
[09:40] <DJones> udoprog: You'll be better asking that in #ubuntu+1 which is the channel for oneiric development until its released
[09:40] <udoprog> DJones: k, thanks
[09:41] <msait> any1 here
[09:41] <msait> http://pastebin.com/cBDGXvwQ
[09:41] <msait> I am getting a dbus error
[09:42] <pishguy1> how to add acronis to live boot?
[09:45] <Mod-R-Focker> ok this is the 3rd time tonight .. Firefox crashes , then i cant open programs like the Ubuntu monitor , or Libreoffice.. but Empathy worked .. what log should i check to see why this is happening ? 11.04
[09:45] <DJones> msait: Its a bit quiet in here at the minute, If you ask your question at 15 minute intervals, it'll give chance for people in the channel to change/com online & one of them may be able to help you
[09:45] <msait> koi hai be yaha
[09:45] <mkquist> anyone  know of software the lets you mount iso's in ubuntu 64 bit? gmount doesnt want to install...
[09:46] <msait> DJones: I am not doing it on purpose.. Firefox when I minimized it it went blank
[09:46] <msait> so i had to relogin
[09:46] <kalkin> argle i executed lilo and installed it to mbr but it's still starts grub
[09:46] <kalkin> no idea why
[09:47] <pishguy1> how to add acronis to live boot?
[09:47] <DJones> msait: No worries, I can see you're not asking very often, just didn't want you getting frustrated not getting any response so thought it was worth mentioning
[09:47] <msait> any ideaI cant open anything
[09:47] <msait> its showing error http://pastebin.com/cBDGXvwQ
[09:48] <Mod-R-Focker> msait: are u running 11.04 sounds like your having the same issue as me?
[09:48] <msait> yeah
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> mkquist: use: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/filename.iso /media/iso
[09:48] <msait> 11.04
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> mkquist: works on ANY linux distro :)
[09:49] <Mod-R-Focker> did Fire fox crash and some programs not open after?
[09:49] <msait> the power outage shutdown led to this
[09:49] <msait> no panel and terminal not workng either
[09:49] <msait> when I open any subfolder same error
[09:52] <thauriswulfa> IS it possible to remove gnome, install xfce de and keep unity
[09:53] <Heinz_L_Maennche> thauriswulfa, yes
[09:54] <thauriswulfa> Heinz_L_Maennche:how to do that?
[09:55] <Mandrew> can i do irc in the terminal to?
[09:55] <DJones> Mandrew: You can use irssi for irc in the terminal
[09:56] <DJones> !irssi | Mandrew
[09:57] <Mandrew> ok DJones so its just to sudo ap-get install irssi?
[09:57] <Heinz_L_Maennche> thauriswulfa, "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[09:57] <DJones> Mandrew: I have a feeling that its installed by default, but if not, yes that command will install it
[09:58] <Mandrew> ok tnx DJones
[09:58] <Heinz_L_Maennche> you don't have to remove gnoem unless you have a small hdd
[09:58] <thauriswulfa> Heinz_L_Maennche: no , just tell me if I remove gnome after installing xfce , unity will be there or is there other procedure to keep unity?
[09:59] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[09:59] <pcoder> Hi, I have just installed a brand new Ubuntu 11.04, and I have some issue with empathy messenger, Does anyone know if empathy supports new email notifications?? I use pidgin and it does..
[09:59] <Heinz_L_Maennche> thauriswulfa, if u remove gnome it won't touch your unity-desktop
[09:59] <Heinz_L_Maennche> ;-)
[10:00] <thauriswulfa> Heinz_L_Maennche: thanx
[10:00] <msait> hii
[10:01] <msait> i am getting error /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:01] <msait> sorry the error is
[10:01] <msait> http://pastebin.com/cBDGXvwQ
[10:01] <msait> i cant open anything at all
[10:01] <msait> the panel is gone
[10:01] <msait> http://pastebin.com/cBDGXvwQ
[10:03] <Mod-R-Focker> system has locked up after Firefox crash .. mannaged to supply my sys log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/629735/ this is the 3rd time tonight it has happened . 11.04
[10:05] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: Did you test your RAM yet?
[10:05] <Mod-R-Focker> no and i did just add a stick too
[10:06] <Mod-R-Focker> i have on 1 gig and one 2 gig would that mismatch be a bad thing?
[10:06] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: Do a RAM test.  Bad RAM is the Number1 cause of complete system lockups.
[10:06] <Mod-R-Focker> k
[10:07] <histo> Mod-R-Focker: that and power bad power supplies
[10:07] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: If it is mismatched, just take out what does not match.
[10:07] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: Yes, as histo says, power supplies are prolly Number2 cause.
[10:08] <Mod-R-Focker> yeah i was wondering if running a 1gig with a 2 gig was a big deal or not
[10:08] <histo> Mod-R-Focker: just run a memtest from the cd and you will find out
[10:08] <mandrew_> im using irssi now, this is so cool tnx DJones
[10:08] <DJones> Mandrew: Your welcome
[10:08] <Hanzo> Sue , millet daha indirmedi oyunu
[10:08] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: No, it is not  bad.  1 gig and 2 gig sitcks are ok.  But what ever new one you have in there is prolly bad.
[10:09] <Mod-R-Focker> k
[10:09] <Mod-R-Focker>  ill check it put
[10:09] <Mod-R-Focker> thanks
[10:09] <mandrew_> can i use the terminal for web surfing to?
[10:09] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: And you have to let the RAM test run for several hours.
[10:09] <Mod-R-Focker> Fun
[10:09] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: ...until you see errors appear, sometimes it is not on the first pass.
[10:10] <usr13> bit just go in and check ever so offten and see if you see errors.  Be patient.
[10:10] <DJones> !lynx | Mandrew Yes you can, Links2 or edbrowse looking at ubottu's links,
[10:10] <usr13> take out a RAM stick, (the one you suspect to be bad), test again.
[10:12] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: 1gig of RAM may not be enough for Win7 but it's ok for Linux. (2 is great but for most desktop users 1 is enough.)
[10:12] <Mandrew> tnx DJones
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: just no flash, otherwise its great :0
[10:14] <sara> i need a friend
[10:15] <Mandrew> ActionParsnip less flash for the ppl :D
[10:15] <pcoder> any one knows if empathy supports new email notifications???
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: hehe
[10:16] <sara> i need a friend
[10:16] <SOLEIL> where ar you,sara
[10:16] <Udonnome> lol
[10:16] <SOLEIL> first use irc
[10:17] <usr13> sara: What is your problem?
[10:17] <sara> i hate the god
[10:17] <sara> i will bild my own
[10:17] <usr13> sara: We can't help you with that.  Sorry.
[10:18] <p1oooop> hey guys..
[10:18] <odix> got a problem
[10:18] <p1oooop> col doesn't seem to work with tail for me...
[10:18] <usr13> sara: If you have support question for Ubutnu, we can help.
[10:18] <p1oooop> tail -f <file> | col -bx is not working.
[10:18] <Night-Hacks> is there any proper way to get my installed date ?
[10:18] <p1oooop> !problem|odix
[10:19] <usr13> p1oooop: don't pipe it to anything and it will work.
[10:19] <p1oooop> usr13: as in no | ing?
[10:19] <usr13> p1oooop: What file are you trying to tail -f  ?
[10:20] <p1oooop> usr13: my apache logs.
[10:20] <Meeow> erm, any help for file sharing per ssh ?
[10:20] <p1oooop> usr13: that or the IRC channel logs that I'm monitoring.
[10:20] <odix> i have two hdds, each had an install of ubuntu server on it, sata, now i have an install i want on my new SSD, the old one has an install to, when i plug them both in, it doesnt boot, im assuming conflicting boot things
[10:20] <usr13> p1oooop: That's strange.
[10:20] <p1oooop> Meeow: you can try fuse...
[10:20] <Meeow> how that ?
[10:20] <odix> i want to reformat my old hd, but i cant seem to boot into linux with both of them connected
[10:21] <p1oooop> Meeow: or an even crazier method using dd...  man dd   for that...
[10:21] <p1oooop> usr13: I've tried it on multiple computers... same problem.
[10:21] <Meeow> oh and how can i do that  ?
[10:21] <odix> can i just boot with my first hd, then plug in the old hd with the existing install on it, and format and mount it ? is sata pnp ?
[10:21] <p1oooop> usr13: tail -f <any file> | col _bx
[10:21] <p1oooop> Meeow: it's in the man page, I believe...
[10:22] <usr13> p1oooop: using sudo?
[10:22] <p1oooop> Meeow: you can also look up the man page on google...
[10:22] <p1oooop> usr13: using the sudo account.
[10:22] <p1oooop> *root
[10:22] <Meeow> brb sorry
[10:22] <p1oooop> usr13: maybe tail and col just don't like me.
[10:22] <p1oooop> XD
[10:23] <usr13> p1oooop: Well, actually user should be able to do it too I think but...
[10:23] <odix> im just going to get gparted
[10:23] <p1oooop> usr13: naw, I kinda need to pipe it to my printer... and only sudo can do that :P
[10:23] <usr13> p1oooop: Yea, just try  tail -f /var/log/httpd/error_log
[10:23] <odix> ubuntu can handle multiple ssds right? or one hd one ssd on only two available sata ports ?
[10:23] <p1oooop> usr13: but I need to format it for my printer...
[10:23] <usr13> see if that works
[10:24] <p1oooop> usr13: I'm also doing IRC logs.
[10:24] <p1oooop> usr13: once I used google translate and did a little russian... my printer froze.
[10:24] <Meeow> p1oooop, i folowed this tutorial http://my.opera.com/ubuntunerd1/blog/share-files-between-two-ubuntu-computers-via-ssh and it keeps asking the password. I dont really get why ?
[10:24] <p1oooop> usr13: so, I have to use col with tail.. :P
[10:24] <p1oooop> Meeow: your SSH server?
[10:25] <Meeow> yep "share files"
[10:25] <VxQe> My ubuntu server name can't seem to resolv it's own hostname.
[10:25] <Meeow> wait, you said "dd" is faster to transfer data between 2pc's ?
[10:25] <usr13> if  you can do   tail -f /var/log/httpd/error_log  and see standard output, then troubleshoot the | col_bx part
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> odix: it will handle whatever your hardware can accommodate
[10:25] <VxQe> I put an entry in /etc/hosts but when I dig/nslookup it cant find it at all.
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: check the entry
[10:26] <VxQe> ?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: what line did you add?
[10:26] <p1oooop> usr13: the tailing part works fine. the problem is when I col it.
[10:26] <usr13> VxQe: can you ping it?
[10:26] <VxQe> just the ip and the hostname.
[10:26] <usr13> p1oooop: that is what I thought.
[10:26] <p1oooop> usr13: :P
[10:27] <VxQe> Hmm
[10:27] <p1oooop> usr13: I've tried it multiple times with col. no luck.
[10:27] <usr13> p1oooop: Well, I dono... sorry.
[10:27] <p1oooop> usr13: alright, thanks for your help :)
[10:27] <VxQe> Yeah I can ping it
[10:27] <Meeow> p1oooop, do you know any other way to share a load of files between 2pc's ?
[10:27] <p1oooop> Meeow: you can try samba...
[10:28] <p1oooop> Meeow: it's not too hard, there's a GUI for it...
[10:28] <VxQe> My actualy problem is that my router doesn't like the static IP so it isn't resolvable over the network.
[10:28] <p1oooop> Meeow: and it works with windows (and mac, I think) machines too..
[10:28] <Meeow> p1oooop, that looks nice .. ill try that. thankies.
[10:28] <p1oooop> Meeow: basically you right click and click on the "share" button.
[10:29] <llutz_> VxQe: how can a router dislike an IP? configure your network correctly and it will work
[10:29] <VxQe> lol
[10:29] <Meeow> p1oooop,  i made everything like in the tutorial but keeps asking me the passw. thats the problem.
[10:29] <VxQe> The machine is in the arp tables but the routers DNS wont resolve it.
[10:29] <usr13> VxQe: Coulld it be you have an IP conflict?
[10:29] <fuzzybunny69y> Hey everyone for some reason flash keeps crashing every single time I watch a movie in chrome. Does anyone know what I could do to fix it? I have tried downloading the version from Adobe's website and nothing seems to work.
[10:29] <VxQe>  No.
[10:29] <VxQe> I can access the box.
[10:29] <VxQe> The dns on the router is just being silly.
[10:30] <usr13> VxQe: pastebinit /etc/hosts
[10:30] <VxQe> It's nothing to do with the hosts file.
[10:30] <odix> real quick, i want to be able to su into root, how do i do that? "i dont want it disabled"
[10:30] <p1oooop> Meeow: is it not working?
[10:30] <p1oooop> 0.o
[10:30] <p1oooop> Meeow: as in your password
[10:30] <usr13> VxQe: Is the IP you are uising inside the DHCP pool?
[10:30] <VxQe> No.
[10:30] <odix> su is givign me authentication failure
[10:30] <Meeow> p1oooop, ouch. sorry its surely because of our new livebox.I gotta reconf this to allow port 22 i guess
[10:31] <Mod-R-Focker> usr13: yep it was the ram .. that sux  now im back to 2 gig
[10:31] <VxQe> And the router doesn't seem to do dhcp reservations.
[10:31] <p1oooop> Meeow: nowonder I like doing it through terminal better... XD
[10:31] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: 2gig is enough.
[10:31] <VxQe> odix: Is sudo -i not suitable?
[10:31] <llutz_> odix: s needs root password which isn't set in *buntu. use sudo -i
[10:31] <p1oooop> Meeow: less ambiguation, IMHO.
[10:31] <llutz_> su*
[10:31] <Hanzo> selam
[10:31] <usr13> VxQe: That should be configurable option.
[10:31] <VxQe> usr13, I have been through every page on the routers config and I can't find it.
[10:32] <Mandrew> hehe w3m was so cool i didnt understand a thing :D
[10:32] <Mod-R-Focker> i mess around running FTP and apache sever for practice so .. i was tryin for a little more ram
[10:32] <usr13> VxQe: Oh, yea, sorry, I missunderstood.  What router is it?
[10:32] <VxQe> Some linksys.
[10:33] <usr13> VxQe: Look up the model number, see if it is in the DD-wrt database. http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database
[10:33] <Hanzo> babay
[10:33] <VxQe> Not installing dd-wrt. ~_~
[10:33] <Hanzo> baby ?
[10:33] <Hanzo> evet
[10:33] <Hanzo> yes
[10:34] <usr13> VxQe: I use IPcop router.  (All you have to do is turn off the DHCP server and use IPCop or smoothwall or... )
[10:34] <Hanzo> ok
[10:34] <usr13> VxQe: Or just turn off the DHCP server and use DHCPD on one of  your linux boxes (one that stays on).
[10:34] <VxQe> I might try configuring bind on the server.
[10:35] <odix> llutz_ i need to get into root, how do i enable su
[10:35] <VxQe> DHCP is not the issue, it's just DNS
[10:35] <VxQe> odix, use sudo -i.
[10:35] <llutz_> odix: su needs root password which isn't set and isn't supported in *buntu. use sudo -i to get root shell
[10:35] <p1oooop> oh, I get it.
[10:35] <trojan> well , I havn't used ubuntu since. Problem is i can't seem to find how to show hidden folder.. lil help please
[10:35] <usr13> VxQe: DNS does not effect what is in your /etc/hosts file.
[10:35] <p1oooop> tail interprets | col -b as more commands...
[10:35] <p1oooop> how do I stop that?
[10:35] <usr13> VxQe: pastebinit /etc/hosts
[10:36] <p1oooop> (as in more files for it to monitor)
[10:36] <odix> uhm, not supported, thats odd, it should disable it but allow you to get into it
[10:36] <VxQe> usr13, I know. If I install bind on the machine then otherboxes will be able to resolve my internal things with static IPs
[10:36] <odix> so if i want another local user to sudo -i into root, i have to give him my password ?
[10:36] <llutz_> odix: sudo -i         how often do we have to repeat?
[10:36] <odix> that doesnt make any sense
[10:36] <usr13> VxQe: is 127.0.0.1               localhost
[10:36] <usr13> first line?
[10:36] <VxQe> Yep.
[10:36] <odix> llutz_ dude i see it.
[10:36] <VxQe> the host file is working fine.
[10:36] <llutz_> odix: you have to add him to the admin group
[10:37] <odix> llutz: hmm ok, ill google that, just not use to ubuntu yet, thanks for your help
[10:37] <trojan> anyone ,, show hidden folders,, ubuntu 11.04
[10:37] <llutz_> odix: sudo adduser <username> admin
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> trojan: CTRL+H
[10:38] <usr13> VxQe: So, were you intending to att this line in the hosts file of all your PCs?
[10:38] <VxQe> ...No.
[10:38] <usr13> VxQe: Btw, why are you opposed to using dd-wrt image on the router?
[10:38] <VxQe> usr13, I think there is a misunderstanding between what you think I want and what I am trying to achieve.
[10:38] <usr13> VxQe: Yes, there must be.
[10:38] <VxQe> I don't want to flash my router/void my warranty/etc.
[10:38] <odix> hmm already had him added, ill append
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: i believe there is a file which will tell your OS to update the router
[10:39] <odix> still worked
[10:39] <VxQe> Apart from one machine not being resolvable via dns, the router works fine.
[10:39] <llutz_> odix: the user has to re-login to activate changes
[10:39] <VxQe> So rather not muck with it.
[10:39] <trojan> thanks
[10:39] <usr13> VxQe: Well then take the router back and get one that does what you want it to do. (If it is the router's warranty you are interested in.)
[10:40] <VxQe> If I can direct DNS queries to the ubuntu server, that makes the most sense.
[10:40] <usr13> VxQe: So what is it, exactly, you are tying to do?
[10:40] <odix> ahh thanks, was wondering why it wasnt working
[10:40] <Mod-R-Focker> VxQe:what are u tryin to do?
[10:41] <VxQe> Let's start again.
[10:41] <lahwran> how would I go about making notification-applet or whatever it's called show notifications that I wish to be shown?
[10:41] <Xofrats> ubuntu (afaik) doesn't run dns servers
[10:41] <usr13> good idea
[10:41] <usr13> Xofrats: Sure it will.
[10:41] <llutz_> no by default
[10:41] <llutz_> not*
[10:42] <VxQe> My router will not resolve my ubuntu server via DNS, presumably because it has a static IP. I have a little appliance in my livingroom that needs to access the server. It cannot do so because it cannot resolve the IP address via DNS.
[10:42] <Xofrats> then use a host file
[10:43] <usr13> VxQe: You don't resolve IP address  You resolve domain names.
[10:43] <VxQe> The appliance only really needs to resolve the ubuntu server. My feeling as that the best option is to install bind on the ubuntu server and point the appliance at it.
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Xofrats: you can install dnsmasq for a nice dns service
[10:43] <VxQe> You resolve the ip via the hostname. :/
[10:43] <Mod-R-Focker> so its on the LAN side ..
[10:43] <usr13> VxQe: No.  You resolve hostnames to IP addreesses
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: if you set the interface to DHCP (address only) you can then specify the DNS servers and in the order you desire
[10:43] <Xofrats> bind is overkill for that
[10:43] <Mod-R-Focker> i dont see why the host file would not work
[10:44] <VxQe> It's an appliance so I cannot access it's bits.
[10:44] <VxQe> I cannot change it's hostfile, etc.
[10:44] <lahwran> internal server error on wiki.ubuntu.com?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: I do that myself and always install a local dnsmasq service to all systems to speed up web access
[10:44] <usr13> VxQe: If you put the domain name and IP address in your /etc/hosts file, it will work.  Right?
[10:44] <VxQe> Yes except that I cannot modify the hosts file on the appliance.
[10:44] <usr13> (That is, if you want to use a domain name.)
[10:44] <Xofrats> yeah, something like dnsmasq tied to dhcp
[10:44] <odix> i have two servers running on a local network, basically one is a copy of another, whats a good palce to start so when automatically backs up the other to the t ?
[10:44] <usr13> VxQe: You can't just use IP address?
[10:45] <VxQe> No.
[10:45] <VxQe> It's a seagate media thingy, it is pretty lousy.
[10:45] <VxQe> lol
[10:45] <odix> ill be doing all my editing on 1 server, and just want the second server to mirror the first
[10:45] <usr13> VxQe: The appliance does not have option to use IP address rather than host name?
[10:45] <Xofrats> bitch to seagate? ^^)
[10:45] <odix> adding users, everything in essence.,,
[10:46] <Mod-R-Focker> what is the appliance ?
[10:46] <VxQe> usr13, no.
[10:46] <llutz_> VxQe: lousy router, lousy apliance... sou should better watch what you buy ;)
[10:46] <VxQe> Basically it only shows things it can resolve.
[10:46] <usr13> VxQe: If I were you, I'd get a router that has options you need.  What is the model number of your router?
[10:46] <Xofrats> that's idiotic
[10:46] <VxQe> Not replacing my router which is fine. ~_~
[10:47] <usr13> VxQe: What is the model number of your router?
[10:47] <VxQe> ~_~
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: can you telnet to your router and do stuff there?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: most home grade junk doesn't let you by default
[10:48] <usr13> VxQe: Use a linux firewall.  Turn off the dhcp server on the router and use a linux box as router, (at that point, the router will become a switch)
[10:48] <VxQe> Sadly no telnet on the router.
[10:48] <Xofrats> run dnsmasq and the dhcp it comes with
[10:48] <usr13> VxQe: Why do you need telnet?
[10:48] <VxQe> I don't want to use another DHCP thing.
[10:49] <Xofrats> you are going to have to
[10:49] <VxQe> If I can run dnsmasq without the dhcp, I'll do that.
[10:49] <VxQe> lol
[10:49] <VxQe> Damn.
[10:49] <DooClaw> Hah I just tried that, I logged into my router and enable ssl on port 992
[10:49] <usr13> VxQe: Then dont.  Trun it off.
[10:49] <DooClaw> And than when I connected it said nothing
[10:49] <DooClaw> And than disconnect me after approx 10 seconds
[10:50] <ghsh> how do i change the default file manager
[10:50] <usr13> VxQe: You can run dnsmasq without DHCP. Just tell the router to issue nameserver address of the box that is running dnsmasq
[10:50] <Xofrats> if he wants to resolve stuff, dnsmasq needs to know what to shove it to the pos meddia thing
[10:50] <usr13> VxQe: I know darn well it has that option.
[10:51] <Xofrats> I mean yeah you can run dnsmasq without, but how is that going to help him resolve internal stuff
[10:51] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[10:51] <Hanzo> i will give award who makes 10+ posts a day
[10:51] <Hanzo> to forum
[10:52] <jragon> How do I install tar balls?
[10:52] <Hanzo> yep
[10:52] <Hanzo> i will give award who makes 10+ posts a day
[10:52] <Hanzo> to forum
[10:53] <ghsh> jragon: untar it then install
[10:53] <Xofrats> either tell seagate to grow a brain, most likely it's using gpl stuff to begin with
[10:53] <usr13> jazz2: tar zxvf tarball.tgz  ;  cd tarball/ ; ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[10:53] <ki113d> Hey guys. I can't find the application to install my proprietary hardware drivers. It isn't in System -> Administration :S  Any help please?
[10:54] <llutz_> !checkinstall  don't use "sudo make install"
[10:54] <llutz_> !checkinstall
[10:54] <usr13> jragon: tar zxvf tarball.tgz  ;  cd tarball/ ; ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[10:54] <ashmew2> Hi , im having some issues with my Dell XPS 15 , im able to feel a little bit of vibrations/static on the body of the laptop near the keyboard..What can be the possible reasons for this ? Can anyone help ? Thanks.
[10:55] <usr13> jragon: But you should just use the package manager -  apt
[10:55] <usr13> jragon: What is it you are wanting to install?
[10:55] <jragon> John the Ripper
[10:55] <Xofrats> anyway, my purpose for being here... anyone familiar with doing rootstock-type things on arm? -arm is dead atm
[10:55] <llutz_> !info john
[10:55] <R|a|k> how can i reinstall grub ?
[10:55] <llutz_> jragon: ^^
[10:55] <jragon> Haha
[10:55] <jragon> Thanks
[10:56] <R|a|k> i am on ubuntu box
[10:56] <ashmew2> john :)
[10:56] <usr13> Xofrats: He can use it's own hosts file to resolve it.  It CAN be done.
[10:56] <R|a|k> i wanna do the grub reinstall right now
[10:56] <jragon> Thanks =
[10:56] <jragon> =D
[10:56] <caroline_> Can anyone tell me how to install google earth without CLI
[10:56] <R|a|k> caroline_: symantic
[10:57] <ghsh> got it
[10:57] <Xofrats> yeah, it can... I take a more 10t approach to things
[10:57] <R|a|k> caroline_: ops synaptic
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> R|a|k: you'll need to do it from liveCD
[10:58] <R|a|k> ActionParsnip: how ?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> caroline_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[10:58] <aljona> Hi, I installed Veetle and now when i rebooted my machine i can not login to xfce. When i log in from the terminal i get the message "You do not own that encrypted directory". So clearly Veetle has messed something up. Does anybody know a solution to this?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> R|a|k: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[10:59] <Xofrats> thing is, if he's relying on router dhcp, no guarantee it'll dole out the same ip
[10:59] <rcconf> hello
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Xofrats: set different IP pools and it'll be ok ;)
[10:59] <daev> could someone please assist me with a small problem i'm having? I'm running 11.04 x86_64 but cpu doesn't flag long-mode.
[11:00] <Xofrats> so he'll have to go semi-static or reservation
[11:01] <Xofrats> Yeah, I heard the 127.0.0.0 block is ripe for taking
[11:01]  * Xofrats still does not understand why a whole /8 was needed for "localhost"
[11:01] <odix> hmm gparted having issues bring up both my ssd and regular hd
[11:02] <llutz_> Xofrats: ipv4 is ripe to die (since ages)
[11:02] <Xofrats> I guess no rootstock expert here...
[11:02] <VxQe> OK!
[11:02] <VxQe> dnsmasq did the trick.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Xofrats: is it /8  I thought it was /24
[11:02] <VxQe> I hope it isn't leasing dhcp address though. :)
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: dnsmasq is the BOM
[11:02] <VxQe> ActionParsnip, APPARENTLY.
[11:02] <Xofrats> It is /8 afaik
[11:03] <lahwran> is there a way to make notify-osd not ignore the timeout and allow me to click on it to make it go away?
[11:03] <wsagent> can anybody help me pls with flash player in Ubuntu 10.10 both in firefox and chromium
[11:03] <llutz_> Xofrats: ActionParsnip it is /8
[11:03] <VxQe> Also, what can I use to configure runlevel services in ubuntu?
[11:03] <VxQe> Used to rhel. :/
[11:04] <llutz_> !runlevel | VxQe
[11:04] <buff27> wsagent, !ask
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Xofrats: yeah it's /8  weird
[11:04] <llutz_> !upstart > VxQe
[11:04] <VxQe> Right, what do I use to disable services, etc?
[11:04] <wsagent> buff27: i was having flash before but now its not working
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: check how long name resolutions take to happen after the second ask ;)
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: yeah, weird stuff
[11:05] <wsagent> buff27:it says download latest flash player
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: surely /30 is enough....
[11:05] <VxQe> I know what upstart is. What utility is used to configure it?
[11:05] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: "nobody needs more than 640k!"
[11:06] <buff27> wsagent, give it a go or try uninstall - re-install flash
[11:06] <Xofrats> That was intel's doing
[11:06] <wsagent> how can i uninstall it sorry i am newbeeee
[11:07] <Xofrats> the 808x couldn't even address a full 1mb
[11:07] <usr13> wsagent: Are you trying to get flashplaer plugin to work?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: it got people to the moon ;)
[11:07] <wsagent> usr13: yes
[11:08] <tebinu> hello, i got a little question. i am on a windows pc right now and i have an ubuntu server at home. i have access via ssh but i wuld like to vnc it.. unfortunately, i forgot to open port 5900 on my router. is it possible to open mozilla via ssh and transfer that window on my windows computer? i heard, that is possible somehow :S
[11:08] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: fake
[11:08] <buff27> wsagent, try: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer     , then sudo apt-get inatall flashplugin-installer
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: according to 2 dead trolls in a baggie its fact
[11:08] <Xofrats> ssh tunneling is possible
[11:08] <usr13> wsagent: http://trryhend.startlogic.com/
[11:08] <fulc> Hi, is this the official ubuntu help channel?
[11:09] <buff27> wsagent, to be honest I'm not sure what the problem is
[11:09] <Xofrats> Some clients can set up tunnel forwarding
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: sure, you can turn on X forwarding in your SSH client and launch the browser
[11:09] <tebinu> hmm ActionParsnip could you help me a bit with that, i am not that much into linux
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: for a linux client use: ssh -X username@host
[11:09] <tebinu> aah
[11:09] <llutz_> tebinu: you'll need a xserver on windows for that running
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: then when you launch the browser, it will appear on the client X server
[11:09] <Xofrats> he uses vnc, though
[11:10] <tebinu> how can i get an xserver on my windows pc
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Xofrats: s/he has ssh enabled but forgot to port forward vnc
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> !vnc
[11:10] <usr13> wsagent: Or:  sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[11:10] <tebinu> i have a 100mbit connection at home so it should be ok. its just important, that everything goes over the ssh poort
[11:11] <fulc> Can anyone help me with installing and enabling xen on a UEC since my hardware doesnt support hardware virtualization?
[11:11] <Xofrats> yeah, it is
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: what activities do you want to do on the remote system?
[11:11] <usr13> wsagent: http://paste.ubuntu.com/629749/
[11:11] <wsagent> user13: thanks a lot your first option worked for me uninstall and reinstall
[11:11] <wsagent> usr
[11:11] <tebinu> ActionParsnip: i just need to open mozilla, to access the administration of my router
[11:12] <usr13> wsagent: ok
[11:12] <tebinu> so i can then open port 5900
[11:12] <wsagent> usr13: thanks a lot
[11:12] <tebinu> and do it via x11vnc.. thats easier for me and also makes it better when i want to vnc via my mobile phone
[11:12] <Xofrats> uhh, no, go to that url about vncoverssh
[11:12] <tebinu> i am there but as far as i can see, it always says something about port 5900 :S
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: sure but when you get vnc going, what will you be doing on the remote system?
[11:13] <caroline_> Thnks!!
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: you can simply launch mozilla in the ssh console
[11:13] <wsagent> buff27: thanks a lot for your help too ... it worked after reinstalling flash plugin
[11:13] <tebinu> hmm
[11:14] <usr13> wsagent: yea, it's his advise you used.
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: if you use a windows OS for client you can install xming for the app to stick to
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: you do know that many apps have web UIs...
[11:14] <tebinu> ah okay, will do that and come back in a minute
[11:14] <tebinu> yea
[11:14] <wsagent> usr13: but i used your help in coding thanks again
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: what do you plan to do over the link?
[11:16] <tebinu> change ports on my router then via the web administration
[11:16] <tebinu> but port 80 is already forwarded by my router
[11:16] <tebinu> so i cannot directly access it from here
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: hmm, no telnet access?
[11:17] <pierre_m47> test
[11:17] <fulc> Can anyone help me with enabling xen on a UEC since my hardware doesnt support hardware virtualization?
[11:17] <tebinu> i dont know anything about telnet and i dont want to break my router :S
[11:17] <rcconf> lol tebinu it's easy
[11:18] <buff27> tebinu, use ssh as a proxy in your broswer http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/
[11:18] <rcconf> tebinu: telnet <router-ip> then enter username and pass
[11:18] <Xofrats> look at docs for ssh tunneling
[11:18] <rcconf> buff27: why does he want to encrypt access to the router
[11:18] <rcconf> omg.
[11:18] <ashmew2> Hoi , I have a desktop lying around running Windows XP , i want to install X/K/Ubuntu on it but the problem is that it has a broken CD Rom and an old BIOS in whichi cant figure out how to boot using a pen drive. I also have a laptop currently running Ubuntu 11.04. So is there any way i could install Ubuntu on my Desktop machine ?Like boot ISO from the hard disk or using the laptop to force boot the desktop ? Thanks.
[11:18] <Xofrats> you are making it too complicated
[11:19] <rcconf> tebinu: just do it via http
[11:19] <rcconf> why use telnet
[11:19] <tebinu> rcconf: not possible.. port 80 is forwarded to my apache at home
[11:19] <Xofrats> port forward 80 to the router 80, ssh can do stuff like that
[11:19] <rcconf> what about https?
[11:19] <tebinu> otherwise i would just access the webinterface via http
[11:19] <buff27> rcconf, was thinking ssh tunnel then do it via http
[11:19] <tebinu> hmm
[11:20] <tebinu> wait i check
[11:20] <rcconf> my router supports 443
[11:20] <Xofrats> ssh clients can forward a local port to the local net on remote
[11:20] <tebinu> doesnt seem to work.. The connection has timed out
[11:20] <buff27> rcconf, tebinu I've done it with ssh tunnel to do it
[11:20] <rcconf> buff27: I know it's possible..
[11:20] <usr13> wsagent: Note; They don't always say when the plugin gets updated.  You just have to over-write it once in a while.
[11:21] <rcconf> tebinu: nmap <router-ip> -p https
[11:21] <wsagent> usr13: yeah i know it now
[11:22] <Xofrats> and you should be using ssh tunneling anyway
[11:22] <tebinu> Starting Nmap 5.21 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-06-20 12:21 CEST
[11:22] <tebinu> Nmap scan report for 192.168.11.1
[11:22] <tebinu> Host is up (0.0031s latency).
[11:22] <tebinu> PORT    STATE  SERVICE
[11:22] <FloodBot1> tebinu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:22] <tebinu> 443/tcp closed https
[11:22] <rcconf> tebinu: yeah it's closed..
[11:22] <Xofrats> instead of opening unencrypted ports
[11:23] <rcconf> tebinu: so you want to access the router remotely right
[11:23] <debian2_> server irc-hispano.org
[11:23] <tebinu> yea
[11:24] <rcconf> tebinu: it's not the same than accessing in LAN
[11:24] <buff27> tebinu, and you have access to a ssh server behind the router?
[11:24] <aljona> i dont know if someone answered my question a few minutes ago, i lost my connection. If anyone did please feel free to repeat
[11:24] <tebinu> yea
[11:25] <tebinu> and it looks like my router does not accept telnet
[11:25] <tebinu> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[11:25] <Xofrats> he wants to vnc to access his router page so he can port forward the vnc
[11:25] <tebinu> exactly
[11:25] <Xofrats> making it waaay complicated
[11:26] <buff27> tebinu, yeah then ssh in to your server with -D 9999 (ssh -D 9999 username@ip-address-of-ssh-server)
[11:26] <rcconf> tebinu: dude if you are accessing it remotely you cant access telnet directly
[11:26] <Xofrats> he's using win*
[11:26] <buff27> tebinu, read the link
[11:26] <rcconf> you gotta have lan access
[11:26] <tebinu> :S
[11:27] <rcconf> or enable remote control in router
[11:27] <Xofrats> he does
[11:27] <Xofrats> via ssh
[11:27] <tebinu> well i have a server in the lan with router
[11:27] <aljona> the thing is that i obviosly do not have permission to access my home folder anymore after installing Veetle. In the .ecryptfs the files looks like the following: "private.mnt rw" "private.sig rw" "wrapped-passphrase rw" Is rw enough for those files?
[11:27] <buff27> Xofrats,  glad you  can keep up
[11:27] <Xofrats> and I told him 10 times to use ssh tunneling
[11:27] <tebinu> i will try Xofrats
[11:28] <aljona> Whats more is that "wrapped-passphrase" is owned by "my_user_name root"
[11:28] <rcconf> Xofrats: with destination being the router IP and port?
[11:28] <Xofrats> he could do that yes
[11:29] <rcconf> i see
[11:29] <Xofrats> but the whole purpose of him doing that is to open 5900 to the world
[11:29] <Xofrats> which is a bad idea(tm)
[11:30] <rcconf> why is that? he just need to use a strong password, encrypt vnc traffic and change default port
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> vnc generally sucks
[11:30] <tebinu> Xofrats: i only need it for like one day but i am not at home for a month now :S
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: vnc has zero encryption
[11:30] <tebinu> i could install teamviewer on it thereafter
[11:30] <rcconf> ActionParsnip: exactly you can encrypt using a ssh tunnel or vpn
[11:31] <tebinu> my idea was to install teamviewer but i dont have any idea how to install it via terminal
[11:31] <rcconf> there's lots of tutorials explaining that
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: true but it does sound like he is going to connect to wan ip using vnc client
[11:31] <Xofrats> ... he's trying to access the router so he can port forward 5900 ...
[11:31] <Xofrats> hence the bad idea(tm)
[11:32] <rcconf> Xofrats: it's not bad idea if no one can't crack it
[11:32] <rcconf> lol
[11:32] <Xofrats> sure, 12345
[11:33] <Xofrats> 12345678, very secure 8 digit
[11:33] <Xofrats> he's on 100mbit, ain't going to take long to brute-force
[11:33] <rcconf> &$X0f4T5[11:33] <rcconf> no one can crack it easily
[11:33] <rcconf> :)
[11:34] <tebinu> well i would be happy if i would be that far to think about securing that connection :D
[11:34] <thereaper243> random question#27321617: whats the best way to go about learning the deeper linux structure (hardware interface, adv. bash commands, etc)? Book? Learning program?
[11:34] <Xofrats> use the source, linus
[11:34] <Xofrats> *duck*
[11:34] <rcconf> tebinu: you should access the VPN with encryption for that you use a SSH tunnel so no one can sniff your VNC password.
[11:35] <rcconf> VNC*
[11:35] <rcconf> sry
[11:35] <Xofrats> or wait, was that "may the source be with you"
[11:35] <rcconf> lol
[11:35] <tebinu> :D
[11:35] <thereaper243> Xofrats, was that a response to me?
[11:35] <tebinu> ok well lets start from the beginning. Xofrats: you told me to install xming. i did that, how should i proceed?
[11:35] <Xofrats> yes
[11:35] <odix> wow i am having the time of my life simply deleting a whole hard drive
[11:36] <Xofrats> no, I said no such thing
[11:36] <odix> i have two hdds, both have filesystems on it, i cant connect both because i cant boot then
[11:36] <tebinu> oh
[11:36] <tebinu> then it was someone else
[11:36] <odix> i just want to remove all the data on one and mount it as a new partition...
[11:37] <Xofrats> x as a protocol isnt't all that great
[11:37] <thereaper243> Xofrats: What do mean by go to the source? I doubt Linus has time for dinner this evening. Does he write a good amount of material or something?
[11:37] <rcconf> tebinu: 1- install, configure VNC and create a strong password (numbers, special chars, lower and uppercase) 2- create a ssh server with private key... connect to VNC using SSH server.
[11:37] <Xofrats> which is why you have vnc/nx/etc
[11:37] <odix> why cant i do this ?
[11:37] <odix> why is this so hard to do ? just format one whole hard drive, they both have linux on them, but i cant both put htem in it doesnt work.
[11:37] <Xofrats> remove or move?
[11:37] <odix> it wont boot
[11:38] <Xofrats> remove is easy, dd if=/dev/zero of=<hd> bs=512 count=1
[11:38] <rcconf> odix: use gparted?
[11:38] <chouchou> Hello good morning, pls how can I add additional http port to the current one which is 80 by default ?
[11:38] <Xofrats> poof, no more data
[11:38] <odix> or anything, i really just need to erase the mbr of it
[11:39] <odix> ive tried evertying, i just cant get gparted to pick it up for some reason?
[11:39] <Xofrats> that erases the mbr
[11:39] <odix> the mbr is stored on the hd no ?
[11:39] <Xofrats> boot from rescue cd
[11:39] <odix> I have two hds
[11:39] <rcconf> odix: you can use disk utility
[11:39] <Xofrats> first 512bytes
[11:39] <rcconf> you can use dban..... you can use gparted
[11:39] <Guest31419> Umm... I just found a very suspicious .conf file. Why would there be a Trolltech.conf?
[11:39] <odix> both have linux on them, just want to erase one
[11:39] <Xofrats> trolltech is for qt
[11:39] <rcconf> Guest31419: paste the content
[11:39] <odix> gparted wont pick it up, i tried plugging it in after i booted, doesnt work, or it doesnt boot.
[11:39] <thereaper243> Xofrats: What do mean by go to the source? I doubt Linus has time for dinner this evening. Does he write a good amount of Linux educational material or something?
[11:40] <Xofrats> don't plug after boot
[11:40] <Guest31419> [Qt]
[11:40] <Guest31419> style=Gtk+
[11:40] <Guest31419> so i guess it's sound
[11:40] <Xofrats> connect the one you want to wipe, boot from rescue, parse dmesg, dd away
[11:40] <Guest31419> just seems strange to have it named that and capitalized nonetheless
[11:40] <DandyKoffin> irc.taphouse.org
[11:41] <Xofrats> you said you wanted to learn about the inner working of linux
[11:41] <Xofrats> no better way than to read the source, unless you are versed in binary and can read elf
[11:43] <tebinu> i got it to work !!!
[11:43] <tebinu> with ssh tunneling
[11:43] <tebinu> ;)
[11:43] <tebinu> wasnt as hard as i thought
[11:43] <tebinu> thanks all
[11:43] <rcconf> tebinu: yeah make sure you use strong passwords..
[11:43] <Xofrats> only took 11 tries
[11:43] <rcconf> because ppl here have your IP
[11:43] <rcconf> :)
[11:44] <thereaper243> Xofrats: LOL, fair enough. I really dont understand source. I guess thats my real question. How do I learn to read source code? Most source I see looks like the afformentioned elf...
[11:44] <rcconf> username: tebinu password: unibet :P
[11:44] <Xofrats> well, one thing that you can do is read the mailing list
[11:45] <Xofrats> but sooner or later you'lll
[11:45] <odix> wow i cant believe its this difficult or ubuntu server wont boot with two hd's connected each containing a root filesystem, it should read bios and see which one i want to boot and not mount the other
[11:45] <Xofrats> have to look at the source
[11:45] <odix> brings me to busybox
[11:46] <odix> xofrats do you mean rescue cd or boot into rescue mode ?
[11:46] <Xofrats> rescue cd
[11:46] <thereaper243> How do I access the mailing list Xofrats?
[11:46] <tebinu> rcconf: thanks, already have a strong one :D
[11:46] <Xofrats> I assume you have one?
[11:46] <odix> ok
[11:46] <tebinu> the name of the left and right boob of my gf. i hope that doesnt let me look retarded
[11:46] <Xofrats> if the whole purpose is to nuke the drive
[11:46] <tebinu> well. i am in the internet
[11:47] <odix> been trying to get this going for hours cant belive it haha
[11:47] <Xofrats> just take the easiest option
[11:47] <odix> is there a possible way to erase the /root of the second hd in busybox?
[11:48] <Xofrats> Umm, if you just dd the first 512byte
[11:48] <Xofrats> next boot all partition will be gone
[11:48] <thereaper243> Xofrats: How do I access the mailing list? I also want to say thank you. You're the only person on here who has ever made me feel even remotely welcome.
[11:48] <Xofrats> *poof*
[11:48] <odix> how do i do that ?
[11:48] <Xofrats> Dunno, ask Dr. google?
[11:49] <odix> please help me, right now i have my ssd, the hd i want in sata slot 1, i have the regular hd, in sata slot 2, im in busybox
[11:49] <odix> ive been trying seriously
[11:49] <odix> for some reason gparted doesnt even pick it up, only /dev/sda,
[11:49] <odix> not both...
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> odix: do you see them in BIOS?
[11:49] <odix> its really confusing me, im not stupid, for some reason a solution keeps evading me
[11:49] <odix> action: yes
[11:49] <Xofrats> Can't you boot with the nukee and a rescue cd?
[11:50] <Xofrats> make it easy
[11:50] <Xofrats> so you don't end up nuking the wrong one
[11:50] <odix> xofrats im dowwlnoading rescue now
[11:50] <Guest31419> http://pastebin.com/T6EmgBTG
[11:50] <odix> i just dont get why gpartd wont c it
[11:50] <Guest31419> what am i doing wrooong?
[11:50] <odix> or there isny an easier way...
[11:50] <thereaper243> Odix, I believe the "Ask Dr. Google" was for me. Your problem is serious. Mine isn't. Good luck guys! I think Xofrats essentially just told me to RTFM. LOL.
[11:50] <odix> getting rescue remix now
[11:51] <Xofrats> any ol bootable linux cd will do
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest31419: you are trying to install a nonexistant package
[11:51] <Guest31419> =P
[11:51] <Guest31419> ActionParsnip, it was a silly joke anyway.
[11:51] <odix> xofrats, i know. but ubuntu is not picking it up and i dont know why
[11:52] <Xofrats> umm, then how did you boot from it before?
[11:52] <MacFan112> hello xD
[11:52] <odix> and i cant get gparted to run off usb, i have usb-fdd, usb-cd, and another usb in my boot options
[11:52] <Xofrats> with ubunntu?
[11:52] <odix> xofrats: one by one
[11:52] <odix> im combinging two server hds into one
[11:52] <thereaper243> Odix, have you tried running the gparted live cd? I usually have better luck that way.
[11:52] <odix> its seriously making me go crazy
[11:52] <Xofrats> as I said, disconnect the one you want to save
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest31419: i know ;)
[11:53] <odix> thereaper: yes, it only picks up one had, not the other\
[11:53] <MacFan112> so, liek, m y frend keepz on goin on abut how good his linuxx system is. wtf is it?
[11:53] <Xofrats> boot into a console with any mean
[11:53] <thereaper243> hm
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> MacFan112: what is what?
[11:53] <Xofrats> then dd
[11:53] <odix> i tried unetbootin to for a usb gparted, cant seem to get it to boot, when im in the grub menu, on boot, how can i get it to boot usb ?
[11:53] <odix> pen drive
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> odix: did you MD5 test the ISO you transferred?
[11:53] <MacFan112> linuxx. he cant stop talking abut how its better than mac. WTF nothing is better than mac lol
[11:54] <Xofrats> bios setting?
[11:54] <Xofrats> troll
[11:54] <thereaper243> Boot USB by selecting it (if available) in the BIOS
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> MacFan112: its not better, or worse. This is also the wrong channel
[11:54] <Harris> hello guys sorry I have a problem with Wine I can not do from a game is called Army Men RTS if I click the icon. exe seems to start the game, the screen goes black for a few seconds but then comes back and goes to the desk and a window with wrote: "Pandemonic Studios: Error" What can I do? can anyone help me?
[11:54] <thereaper243> Not all MOBOs will let you USB boot though.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> MacFan112: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <odix> well if i have usb fdd
[11:54] <odix> and usb cdrom
[11:54] <MacFan112> okay thnxx
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> odix: did you test the ISO?
[11:55]  * Guest31419 is laughing at the fact that the troll actually just left and moved on... 
[11:55] <ThinkT510> Harris: sounds like a wine issue, check the wine appdb website or ask on #winehq
[11:55] <Xofrats> trolls are people too
[11:55] <thereaper243> LOL Xofrats, not here they arent
[11:56] <kakashi_> how do I k¡ll 'rm'
[11:56] <kakashi_> its killing my machine
[11:56] <o__oll> true
[11:56] <kakashi_> kill -9 PID or killall -9 rm is not working
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> kakashi_: kill it's PID
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[11:56] <Xofrats> I'm a humanitarian... I like tasty people
[11:56] <thereaper243> ROFL!!!
[11:56] <thereaper243> Now I am hungry. DANGIT!
[11:57] <kakashi_> ActionParsnip: doesnt help!
[11:57] <Xofrats> pidof rm?
[11:57] <arand> kakashi_: How did you invoke rm? Need sudo to kil it?
[11:57] <Xofrats> su?
[11:57] <thereaper243> ActionParsnip: Do you usually wind up assisting everyone? You seem fairly helpful.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> kakashi_: tried sudo kill -9 PID
[11:58] <odix> ive never had such a problem deleteing a hd lol
[11:58] <kakashi_> used sudo
[11:58] <kakashi_> doesn't help!
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> thereaper243: just hang out when work is quiet :)
[11:58] <odix> and man gparted livecd takes forever
[11:58] <Xofrats> anyway, I think I found my vic^H^H help, see yall
[11:58] <o__oll> sudo sudo?
[11:58] <odix> its sstupid...we dont need an intensive gui man were just partitioning
[11:59] <thereaper243> How do you whisper agian? /whisper?
[11:59] <Lanlost> Anyone here know of a linux utility that will let me convert from .ccd/.img to .bin/.cue?
[11:59] <o__oll> apparently you can add as many sudos as you want as long as you actually include a command at the end.
[11:59] <o__oll> silly to know
[11:59] <kakashi_> top | grep rm gives me this 31068 dumbuser  20   0  5264  724  604 D    2  0.0   0:12.10 rm
[12:00] <thereaper243> How do you whisper again? /whisper?
[12:00] <nephx> whisper?
[12:00]  * Lanlost whispers a whisper.
[12:00] <kakashi_> just check the amount of time it has been running
[12:00] <o__oll> yup.. "sudo sudo sudo sudo sudo apt-get install cowsay" actually works just fine.
[12:00] <jw013> thereaper243: if you mean pm, use /msg
[12:01] <o__oll> I feel sillier for having tried that, though
[12:01] <o__oll> =P
[12:01] <thereaper243> Ah yes. /msg. Fail.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> thereaper243: try:   /msg user text
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Lanlost: you can mount .img and create bin cue with another tool
[12:02] <Lanlost> is .img just a standard .iso?
[12:02] <kakashi_> is there any other way forcing the kill to really kill the process
[12:02] <o__oll> Lanlost, afaik there was a difference
[12:03] <rcconf> kakashi_: what is the PID
[12:03] <thereaper243> LanLost: I think it depends on the compression level. For some files the answer is yes. For some, mac formatting is different.
[12:03] <Lanlost> heres the reason for this. I have a game that I created a .ccd/.img years ago when the disc was becoming unreadable. I haven't done anything with it in years (It is relentless: little big adventure, in case you are curious.. amazing mid 90's game from adeline)
[12:03] <kakashi_> 31068
[12:03] <rcconf> kakashi_: sudo kill -9 31068
[12:03] <Lanlost> anyway, I have dosxbox for my XBOX. I really wanted to see if it were possible to 'emulate' it in this.
[12:03] <o__oll> Lanlost http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3115582 this might help you
[12:03] <o__oll> There's utilities to convert from it
[12:04] <Lanlost> I can mount ISOs in dosbox.. but in order to keep audio tracks, it's gotta be .bin/.cue. Otherwise, I would just convert it to .iso or copy the files over
[12:04] <Lanlost> thank you
[12:05] <o__oll> Lanlost apparently there's also a nero for linux that supports .img that has a demo
[12:05] <o__oll> Good Luck!
[12:05] <Lanlost> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iV3tnS13s
[12:06] <o__oll> I can always support nostalgia gaming *g
[12:06] <Lanlost> in case you are curious. An incredible game that is unlike any other I played as a kid. I'm dying to hear this music again. The CD audio version.
[12:07] <o__oll> Oooh I remember that one
[12:07] <Lanlost> that's the non-cd version of course. Or.. I think if you don't have the cd in it defaults to that version or something. Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes.
[12:08] <Lanlost> yeah 4:40 is where you first leave. You can hear why I want the cd-audio =/ sounds horrible
[12:10] <o__oll> Best of luck. I hope you get it figured out. If you need some more help googling or fiddling around trying to get it to work, feel free to poke me anytime.
[12:10] <edgardo> yes i do
[12:10] <Lanlost> You know. I just mounted it via gCDEmu
[12:11] <Lanlost> It shows up as two devices. One for the disk and then one for "audio cd". I wonder if Icould just CREATE a .bin/.cue from this somehow
[12:12] <o__oll> Sounds like it's worth a shot at least
[12:12] <o__oll> at the very least you should be able to extract the audio from it somehow now
[12:17] <pRoV7x>  hello
[12:17] <pRoV7x>  how's everybody today
[12:18] <thereaper243> Fantastic as Dr. Who would say.
[12:19] <pRoV7x>  < thereaper243 > lol
[12:19] <pRoV7x>  < thereaper243 > what os do u use
[12:21] <o__oll> Yo~
[12:21] <Davidius> Hi folks, does anyone here know alot about startup disk creator or Unetbootin?
[12:21] <Davidius> I am having trouble trying to create any liveUSB using either of them on two seperate USB drives
[12:22] <o__oll> any particular distro?
[12:23] <o__oll> the best luck I've had with live-media was using puppy, though that's not everyone's cup of tea.
[12:24] <Davidius> I've tried it on both ubuntu and pinguyOS (ubuntu based) and also on windows no joy
[12:25] <o__oll> sorry to hear
[12:25] <megabraker> hello , shockwave in  ubuntu is that possible??
[12:25] <o__oll> do you have any more details about what went wrong?
[12:25] <o__oll> megabraker, via crossover or wine, yes otherwise afaik no
[12:26] <Nahkasorsa> Anyone have any ideas why I can see my desktop trough windows in 11.04
[12:26] <Davidius> I've tried to create about a dozen LiveUSB using both startup disk creator and unetbootin. At first I thought it was the USB drive so I used another with the same results. I made sure both were formatted using Fat32 but no joy
[12:26] <Nahkasorsa> I guess it's some driver problem or something.
[12:26] <megabraker> ok so i need to porivde a port myself
[12:26] <o__oll> megabraker, i haven't looked into it in a year though so things might have changed.
[12:26] <Davidius> the only error I get is from Startup Disk Creator and it reads an uncaught exception was raised Errno5 input/output error
[12:27] <megabraker> o_oll so i need to porvide a port myself
[12:27] <Davidius> Cryptic and fucking useless
[12:27] <o__oll> megabraker, likely
[12:27] <sanguisdex> can any one recommend a v host manger for a localhost environment, so I dont have to do it all manually?
[12:28] <o__oll> Davidius, Certainly. Hmm. How is your USB setup? (USB hub, or builtin, USB version)
[12:28] <Davidius> USB is SDCard plugged into an adapter and then directly into the mobo at the back
[12:29] <o__oll> Davidius, That might be the problem. I know my motherboard had issues with booting off SD
[12:30] <o__oll> Davidius, my desktop can do it, but it requires a special bios setting. Have you tried with a regular old USB stick?
[12:30] <Davidius> Ive used this methods dozens of times before without any issue
[12:30] <Davidius> so why start now?
[12:30] <Mandrew> o__oll, but thats booting this is just installing it to the usb
[12:30] <Davidius> Yes tried a small 512 USB I had and no joy
[12:30] <o__oll> I suppose, that's true
[12:30] <Davidius> there is no problem booting from them I can get the  standard UNETbootin screen but when I try to boot the image it fails over
[12:31] <o__oll> Argh, I ran into that issue before, but I can't for the life of me remember if/how I resolved it. Sorry I can't be of more help :/
[12:32] <bullgard4> [Natty GNOME 2] Why shows Nautilus the directory /root with a special symbol "file card with right half in red and left half white with a skew cross"? What does this icon mean?
[12:32] <Davidius> FUCK nuggets
[12:32] <o__oll> Let me go through my old notes, if I remember or find something useful i'll let you know.
[12:32] <Davidius> so it is an issue
[12:32] <Mandrew> Davidius, have you tried a older version of the OSes? it might be some problem with the new insatller that they have in 10.10-11.04
[12:32] <Davidius> nice to know such a frustrating and blocking issue is so well documented with the project
[12:32] <Davidius> I swear developers should get a slap when they do stupid things
[12:33] <Davidius> I only have 11.04 on my computers, Im trying to downgrade onf of them to 10.10 hence trying to create the LiveUSB
[12:33] <Mandrew> ok
[12:34] <d_atharva> hi..I changed the language of my system 2 days before..now I want to remove it and again want english.I removed the language from language support but and restarted the pc.but its still there in some parts..pl.. help
[12:34] <rcconf> ei I have a questioN:
[12:34] <rcconf> What files are these at /var/lib/dhcp3/ ?
[12:34] <rcconf> dhcp leases?
[12:34] <rcconf> wth
[12:35] <bullgard4> d_atharva: What is your GUI? What is your Ubuntu relaease number?
[12:35] <d_atharva> 10.01
[12:35] <rcconf> lol
[12:35] <rcconf> doesnt exist
[12:35] <d_atharva> sry...10.10
[12:36] <rcconf> may I delete files inside /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient ?
[12:36] <DamnSoGooD> how can i compress a file?
[12:36] <rcconf> * /var/lib/dhcp3/
[12:36] <rcconf> DamnSoGooD: install rar
[12:37] <d_atharva> bullgard4 : 10.10 mavrik
[12:37] <jrib> DamnSoGooD: use bzip2 or gzip
[12:37] <rcconf> jrib: most common extracters dont support it
[12:37] <Davidius> Does UNetBootin have an IRC channel?
[12:37] <jrib> rcconf: sure they do :/
[12:37] <rcconf> ..or not
[12:38] <rcconf> ;o
[12:38] <rcconf> but yeah I use .rar
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> DamnSoGooD: right click it and you can compress there
[12:38] <rcconf> ActionParsnip: I have a lot of files inside /var/lib/dhcp3/ old stuff
[12:38] <DamnSoGooD> there's no context menu for compress
[12:38] <o__oll> .7z is amazing.
[12:39] <DamnSoGooD> wait i try p7zip
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> DamnSoGooD: they are all pretty decent
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: not sure there dude, sorry
[12:39] <rcconf> may I delete these  dhclient.* files?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: not sure, others may be able to advise. Is there nothing online detailing them?
[12:40] <DamnSoGooD> i got it p7zip-full :D
[12:40] <rcconf> it seems it creates .leases and .lease files when I use dhcp
[12:41] <rcconf> most of those entries are old eh
[12:41] <rcconf> it's like a log
[12:42] <JaggMo> Hi...  Am new to Ubuntu....
[12:42] <smftre> i have installed phpMyAdmin via my ubuntu cli, but cant access the gui afterwards using the ip address/phpmyadmin
[12:43] <rcconf> ActionParsnip: hm it seems that it's created by wicd
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: i use wicd on my lappy. I'll look into that. Thanks for the detail :D
[12:44] <smftre> anyone?
[12:44] <JediMaster> ok, this is an issue I've asked about before months ago but I've still got it... I've got an intel atom/nvidia based machine running Ubuntu 11.04, (same issue on 10.04 and 10.10) where I have a gigabit ethernet port (Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP79 Ethernet (rev b1)) connected via Cat6 (also tried Cat5e) to a router with gigabit ports. I can only get about 20kbytes/sec to anything
[12:44] <JediMaster> on the network or to the internet, what's going on?
[12:45] <Davidius> smf-tre as in using the IP address of the myPHPAdmin server via the browser?
[12:45] <rcconf> smftre: users reply if they can help just a wait a little
[12:45] <smftre> Davidius, yes
[12:45] <Davidius> smftre, are you sure you have the IP right - can you ping it?
[12:45] <smftre> yes, 100% certain, if I go there without /phpmyadmin then it goes to the "it works! default page"
[12:46] <Davidius> smftre, can you bring up any page on the Ubutnu server as in the base page of the server
[12:46] <rcconf> man dhclient :P
[12:46] <Davidius> smftre - then its obviously something up with myPHPAdmin and not ubuntu or the server. Sorry I cant be of more help but Im not familiar with myPHPAdmin at all
[12:46] <smftre> Davidius, ok thanks anyways :)
[12:47] <bullgard4> d_atharva: What is your GUI?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> smftre: can you access it from localhost
[12:47] <wols_> smftre: and if you go to /phpmyadmin, what happens then?
[12:48] <smftre> wols_, 404
[12:48] <Davidius> smftre - is /phpmyadmin the correct addy? Not being smart just double checking
[12:48] <wols_> smftre: ls -l /var/www/phpmyadmin*
[12:48] <smftre> Davidius, it's the default for phpmyadmin apparently
[12:49] <smftre> I see it's at /etc/phpmyadmin/
[12:49] <Davidius> @smftre - sounds like Wols_  knows alot more than me
[12:49] <wols_> smftre: no. that is config, not a webpage there
[12:49] <lolmatic> hi
[12:49] <pRoV7x>  hi   lolmatic
[12:49] <smftre> ok
[12:49] <lolmatic> somehow my cron isnt executed properly
[12:49] <lolmatic> 32 * * * * /etc/ftp-index.sh
[12:50] <lolmatic> i want it to be run hourly
[12:50] <Davidius> so whats the right addy wols_?
[12:50] <rcconf> ActionParsnip: it's history of valid dhcp requests thats why I got the same IP even if I wanted another IP :P
[12:51] <rcconf> I thought it was router fault
[12:51] <jrib> lolmatic: pastebin the contents of your script
[12:51] <spass> lolmatic: try /binbash /etc/ftp-index.sh
[12:51] <lolmatic> jrib: when i call the script it runs without problems. just the cron isnt being executed
[12:51] <smftre> Davidius, I may be onto a solution here, will update you all in a minute
[12:52] <spass> lolmatic: and you missed user in that line
[12:52] <jrib> lolmatic: for me to help you, you need to pastebin the contents of your script
[12:53] <spass> lolmatic: you can always copy script to /etc/cron.hourly
[12:53] <smftre> Davidius, sorted, i needed to modify the apache2.conf to include it manually..
[12:53] <lolmatic> spass: user?
[12:53] <spass> lolmatic: like: 17 *    * * *   root    cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[12:54] <spass> lolmatic: in /etc/crontab syntax needs declaring user
[12:54] <jrib> lolmatic: you would only need to specify a user if you aren't using a user's crontab (you're instead using the /etc/crontab).  But you should use a user's crontab (by using crontab -e)
[12:55] <lolmatic> how can i force the cron.hourly to run now?
[12:55] <lolmatic> to test it?
[12:55]  * jrib sighs
[12:55] <thezman60> hi everyone
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> hi thezman60
[12:56] <thezman60> hi ActionParsnip
[12:56] <spass> lolmatic: change time in /etc/crontab that handles running cron.daily scripts
[12:56] <llutz> lolmatic: sudo run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[12:56] <o__oll> change timekeeping divider symbol from : to /
[12:56] <thezman60> Im a real newbie to xchat
[12:56] <gconf> hi. How can I copy all the deb files in a folder so that I can install it later when I need it ?
[12:56] <o__oll> instantly looks more futuristic
[12:56] <spass> or like llutz said.
[12:56] <o__oll> =P
[12:57] <spass> gconf: cp *.deb <destination> ?!?
[12:58] <odix> still messing with this hard drive issue, heres what its saying. When i plug in the hard drive by itself, it works, when i plug it in with the other blank drive it doesnt, they both sit on channel 0, ones a master and ones a slave (apparently), SATA2 drives
[12:59] <odix> on boot i get dropped to a shell it says alert! /dev/mapper/blah-root does not exist
[12:59] <odix> why would it do that with both drives by itself but not with one in it ?
[13:00] <Guest76773> KK
[13:03] <LekeFly> How can i check a gnome terminal via SSH?
[13:04] <odix> can smoebody help me ?
[13:04] <o__oll> odix does it still do that after reformatting one of them?
[13:04] <odix> yes
[13:04] <odix> and if i plug in the drive alone, it works just fine
[13:04] <o__oll> did it work before with both?
[13:04] <odix> nope
[13:05] <odix> one drive is completely blank unallocatd, even tried formatting it, still nothing
[13:05] <o__oll> it might be a hardware incompatibility, though it's not the most likely it
[13:05] <geekyogi> anyone knows how to disable gpg check in synaptic?
[13:05] <o__oll> new partition table too
[13:05] <geekyogi> apt
[13:05] <o__oll> so the mbr got wiped
[13:05] <odix> ALERT! /dev/mapper/udemia-root does nto exist. Dropping to a shell
[13:05] <odix> well no if i just boot with the one hard drive, it works.
[13:05] <geekyogi> how to disable gpg check in apt? anyone?
[13:05] <JaggMo> I installed RHEL 5.4, then installed Ubuntu 10.04. Now am not able to see RHEL in the startup menu...
[13:05] <odix> linux comes up, the login screen, but after i hti enter, i get dropped to initramfs
[13:06] <JaggMo> Any one help me pls....
[13:06] <o__oll> odix, oh, i mean on the drive that you formatted, did you kill the partition table
[13:06] <Pici> LekeFly: I'm not sure what you mean by that, can you elaborate?
[13:06] <wols_> JaggMo: you will need to add it back manually
[13:06] <odix> o___oll gparted gave me no option to kill the  tables, its set as ms-dos
[13:07] <odix> the table*
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> JaggMo: try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[13:07] <JaggMo> How to add the RHEL boot loader in Ubuntu?....
[13:07] <LekeFly> Pici: i have a machine running with a terminal window open.. and id like to "view" that window in ssh.. :p
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> JaggMo: os-prober may just detect it
[13:07] <wols_> JaggMo: where is the RHEL bootloader installed to?
[13:07] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, do you know how to diable gpg check in ubuntu?
[13:07] <Lasers> LekeFly: Learn how to use screen.
[13:07] <fulc> Can anyone help me with enabling xen on a UEC?
[13:07] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, do you know how to disable gpg check in ubuntu?
[13:07] <Pici> LekeFly: afaik, thats not possible.  Thats why tools such as screen exist.
[13:07] <odix> im going to try a clean install, i guess.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: gpg check for what?
[13:08] <o__oll> odix, okay I'm doing a bit of research into your error
[13:08] <JaggMo> how to find out that?
[13:08] <ikonia> JaggMo you don't want to do that, as it will cause problems with kernel updates in ubuntu
[13:08] <o__oll> odix, to see of there's anything else we can do before you lose data
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:08] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, for packages in apt, synaptic
[13:08] <odix> o__oll
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get update    and I can advise
[13:08] <JaggMo> wols_: how to find out?...
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> JaggMo: did my command not work?
[13:09] <o__oll> odis, can you boot into the one of them with supergrubdisk?
[13:09] <o__oll> with both of them plugged in
[13:09] <o__oll> if yes then it's probably just a config issue
[13:10] <JaggMo> ActionParsnip: Am working on that now...
[13:10] <geekyogi> The thing is that.. I'm trying to use Backtrack repos on ubuntu.. and I don't have the gpg keys for the repository
[13:10] <o__oll> *odix
[13:10] <K1ng> !up k1ng.php-dev.net
[13:10] <smftre> what's that line i have to add to get other file types to run as php for example? for the life of me i cant remember :P
[13:10] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip The thing is that.. I'm trying to use Backtrack repos on ubuntu.. and I don't have the gpg keys for the repository
[13:10] <Pici> K1ng: What are you trying to do?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: if you can give the text I can advise.
[13:10] <K1ng> i just want to know if its works :D
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: can you also give the output of: sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/lsb-release       thanks
[13:11] <smftre> ahh, i recall: AddType application/x-httpd-php .htm
[13:11] <odix> sorry agbck
[13:11] <odix> whats that ?
[13:11] <geekyogi> W: GPG error: http://all.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AB6DA34B475A6B7F W: GPG error: http://64.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AB6DA34B475A6B7F W: GPG error: http://source.repository.backtrack-linux.o
[13:11] <odix> supergrubdisk ?
[13:11] <odix> huh?
[13:11] <ikonia> geekyogi: they are back track repos - not for ubuntu
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: pastebin the whole output please, like I asked
[13:12] <geekyogi> Yes I know
[13:12] <o__oll> supergrubdisk is a utility disk that just looks for grub config files regarless of mbr
[13:12] <ikonia> geekyogi: ok - so why are you trying to use them with ubuntu ?
[13:12] <odix> One of them is completely wiped, the other has the os on it, if i just 0plug the one with the os on it, it boots and runs fine, if i just plug the one with nothing on it, it does nothing, if i plug both in i get dropped to a shell
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: so why paste the text here like that when "you know"?
[13:12] <o__oll> you can use it to try and boot into otherwise broken systems most of the time
[13:12] <odix> i havent tried that
[13:12] <geekyogi> so that I can make use of backtrack packages
[13:12] <geekyogi> on ubuntu
[13:12] <ikonia> geekyogi: that is not supported, there are certain things different, you don't mix and match like that
[13:13] <JaggMo> ActionParsnip: Done.. Now do u want me to restart pc?....
[13:13] <ikonia> geekyogi: if you want to use backtrack pages, use backtrack linux
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: can you give a PASTEBIN of both commands I gave
[13:13] <o__oll> odix, Oh also, something silly: this helped on my desktop once, did you try a different arrangement of the drive connections?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> JaggMo: sure
[13:13] <odix> yes =)
[13:13] <o__oll> i.e. plugging them into different ports
[13:13] <odix> the bios reads both of htem on channel 0 sata
[13:13] <JaggMo> Thank u..  let me do that & get u back soon...
[13:13] <o__oll> odix, same issue?
[13:13] <odix> yup
[13:13] <o__oll> strange
[13:13] <geekyogi> After this operation, 2,105kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main python-configobj 4.7.1-1 [232kB] Get:2 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe pastebinit 1.1-1 [23.2kB] Fetched 255kB in 3s (78.3kB/s)
[13:13] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, :
[13:13] <odix> it always sets the wrong one as MASTER even tho that doesnt matter cause its sata
[13:13] <FloodBot1> geekyogi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:14] <odix> no matter what, it is a via embedded system
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: let pastebinit install, it will make a URL. What is it?
[13:14] <ThinkT510> !pastebin | geekyogi
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> odix: check settings in BIOS
[13:14] <odix> action: went through it all, been going for 5 hours at this
[13:15] <o__oll> odix, wow. at that point it might really be best to just backup and do a fresh setup.
[13:15] <odix> i know, i did, but without the other hd plugged in
[13:15] <odix> i didnt think that woudl matter ? I will do a fresh with both plugged in
[13:15] <odix> thats my next step right now
[13:16] <odix> i just dont get why that would matter if there is no partition table, i mean after all, how would you add additional storage ?
[13:16] <odix> it just does not make sense /
[13:16] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629791/
[13:16] <o__oll> odix, well the partition table contains the MBR, you can clear the MBR by creating a fresh partition table. just erasing the volume doesn't do that
[13:17] <o__oll> odix, but i'm starting to feel this might be a different issue than that alltogether
[13:17] <pierre_m57> test
[13:17] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, I didn't understand the use of Pastebin..
[13:17] <pierre_m47> test
[13:17] <Pici> pierre_m47: yes, we read you
[13:17] <Pici> geekyogi: paste your output there, press the button, then give us the url of the resulting page.
[13:17] <JaggMo> ActionParsnip: Sorry..  I still don't have RHEL option in startup menu itself...
[13:18] <buff27> pierre_m47, your working
[13:18] <o__oll> odix, If you're going to reinstall again make sure to just plug in _everything_ you plan on using to assure you have all the drivers and the automatic partitioning considers everything
[13:18] <buff27> pierre_m57, you work too
[13:18] <pierre_m47> thanks for your responses
[13:19] <o__oll> odix, unfortunately that's all the advice i can come up with, I'd been doing some reasearch for you on the side, too but my newsgroup and google fu isn't working well today
[13:19] <o__oll> although maybe there's someone more savvy than me in the chat that can help you more
[13:20] <WLU>  #emacs
[13:21] <Goliath> shockrates@ErebusPC:~$ sudo -H -u anonymous firefox
[13:21] <Goliath> [sudo] password for shockrates:
[13:21] <Goliath> No protocol specified
[13:21] <Goliath> how can i fix this?
[13:21] <FloodBot1> Goliath: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <JaggMo> wols_: I know boot partition installed in /dev/sda1, but how to find where the RHEL bootloader is installed to?
[13:22] <schu> hi there. when copying file from a local machine to a remote server with rsync, is there a way to auto-create the initial directory (say i want to put /files to myserver:/files but the remote dir doesn't exist yet)?
[13:22] <schu> copying files*
[13:25] <JaggMo> I installed RHEL 5.4, then installed Ubuntu 10.04. Now am not able to see RHEL in the startup menu...  Can any one help me........
[13:25] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629794/
[13:25] <ikonia> JaggMo: because the ubuntu grub has overwritten the redhat applied one
[13:25] <odix> thanks ool
[13:25] <ikonia> JaggMo: if you do an update-grub2 in ubuntu it may find and dicovery the redhat os - but I doubt it
[13:27] <JaggMo> ikonia: Ubuntu 10.04 has GRUB2 in it default, i believe...
[13:27] <ikonia> JaggMo: correct
[13:28] <JaggMo> ikonia: so..  do i need to update grub2 again?...
[13:28] <ikonia> JaggMo: no - I've just told you what to do
[13:28] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629794/
[13:28] <Goliath> how can i make a script i put in /etc/init.d/ start on boot?
[13:29] <JaggMo> ikonia: is it, sudo update-grub2 command?
[13:29] <Goliath> ?
[13:29] <bastidrazor> Goliath: put the script in /etc/rc.local instead.
[13:29] <ikonia> JaggMo: yes
[13:29] <JaggMo> ikonia: OK...
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: cheers, let me review
[13:30] <Goliath> bastidrazor: what does this do?
[13:30] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, I found the gpg keys for the packages. and Backtrack packages are getting installed on ubuntu without any problem.. but sitll would like to know how to disable gpg keys
[13:30] <Goliath> bastidrazor: write /etc/init.d/myscript in there?
[13:30] <Goliath> or what?
[13:30] <ikonia> geekyogi: man apt-get
[13:30] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, checks*
[13:30] <JaggMo> ikonia: let me restart pc, catch u then...
[13:30] <odix> i mean i dont even thin i should do this
[13:30] <ikonia> geekyogi: it's listed in the man page
[13:30] <odix> because how would i add new space then
[13:30] <odix> ive never had an issue like that,,,
[13:30] <odix> this*
[13:31] <Goliath> ?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AB6DA34B475A6B7F
[13:31] <Goliath> bastidrazor: e?
[13:32] <soziety> hello, anybody can recommend me a good client for vpn (pptp, ipsec) plz
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> soziety: network manager
[13:33] <JaggMo> ikonia: still no go...  how to do that manually?...
[13:33] <Goliath> FUCK UBUNTU
[13:33] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629795/
[13:33] <soziety> I need a special function, when vpn falling down the internet will must falling down too
[13:34] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, Thanks for your support.. appreciate it,. But I found the GPG keys and the issue is no more.. :)
[13:34] <wols_> JaggMo: you usually don't. it doesn't matter anyways since you most probably need to reinstall it. one bootloader you install the the MBR, the other you install into the partition that linux is installed to. then you add to the MBR-bootloader an entry for teh linux-partition bootloader
[13:34] <ikonia> !grub2 > JaggMo
[13:34] <o__oll> odix, I just thought of something. What mode are your drives running?
[13:34] <o__oll> ACPI, etc.
[13:35] <soziety> hello, anybody can recommend me a good client for vpn (pptp, ipsec) plz, I need a special function, when vpn falling down the internet will must falling down too
[13:35] <o__oll> Potentially switching them to JBOD might help.
[13:35] <ikonia> JaggMo: ubottu has just send you a pm with a grub wiki page, it explains how to manually add an entry, it's worth using the menu.lst file from your Red Hat install (it's in /boot/grub on your redhat machine)
[13:35] <szal> soziety: please rephrase the problem description, your sentence doesn't make sense
[13:36] <jpds> !info network-manager-pptp | soziety
[13:37] <bazhang> hi
[13:37] <pRoV7x>  hi   bazhang
[13:37] <o__oll> odix, another issue I see is that we've spent so much time on this issue that what we're talking about is no longer clear with the rest of the chat. if you want I could help you create a pastebin that outlines your issue and the steps we've taken so far and hopefully someone will be able to point out something we overlooked somewhere
[13:37] <bazhang> pRoV7x, please disable that
[13:38] <LjL> hi
[13:38] <pRoV7x>  hi   LjL
[13:40] <o__oll> odix, i also just though of someone else we could ask that probably knows these kind of problems WAY better than me
[13:40] <JaggMo> ikonia: got that...  letme go thru & try that... thanks...
[13:40] <ikonia> JaggMo: great
[13:40] <JaggMo> ubottu: got that...  letme go thru & try that... thanks...
[13:40] <asarch> md5sums?
[13:41] <asarch> Where are they?
[13:41] <Pici> !hashes | asarch
[13:41] <asarch> Thank you Pici! Thank you very much :-)
[13:41] <Pici> asarch: They should also be in a MD5SUMS file on the server where you got the iso
[13:41] <david___> hi
[13:41] <Woody4u_> hi, is it possible to lound a specific programm after a given usb harddisk is connected?
[13:42] <o__oll> odix, Try asking Suhana, from the peppermint (os) help chat. would probably know. Is practically always online on #peppermint@irc.spotchat.org
[13:42] <asarch> I just clicked on "Download now"
[13:42] <kakashi_> whgat is the best way of deleting a huge huge file (of the order of 400 G)
[13:42] <Woody4u_> i want to automaticly start a backup everytime when i connect the disk
[13:42] <david___> after i installed KDE the Unity and planels wont load :(
[13:42] <kakashi_> I dont want to use rm, its slow as hell
[13:42] <dr_willis> unlink  perhaps
[13:42] <dr_willis> but i dont see why rm would be slow.. normally deletion is quite fast.
[13:43] <dr_willis> now 400000+ 1k files.. could be slow...
[13:43] <david___> brb
[13:43] <WildeJA> Good Afternoon All
[13:43] <kakashi_> well, this is taking a long long time
[13:43] <kakashi_> don really know why, probably the way it is stored
[13:43] <kakashi_> its a basically a file with the STDOUTS
[13:44] <kakashi_> its just a single file with oustream from C++
[13:45] <kakashi_> I am not sure, why it is taking such a long time
[13:45] <david___> ok back
[13:45] <david___> after i installed KDE the Unity and planels wont load :(
[13:46] <david___> it wont give me any error
[13:46] <o__oll> kakashi_ how about creating an empty file, then saving it under the name of the big file in the same directory as the big file
[13:46] <o__oll> overwriting might be faster.
[13:47] <dr_willis> i thought deleteing a file was  very fast because its just unlinking the name from  the data. I cant even rember the right terms now...
[13:47] <rinkukokiri> need help with this::  <info> (wlan0): device state change: 8 -> 3 (reason 38)
[13:48] <rinkukokiri> what does it mean
[13:48] <o__oll> david__,  could you clarify? Are you logging into the KDE enviroment or the unity environment?
[13:48] <david___> no Unity
[13:49] <wols_> rinkukokiri: you'd need to read the source to see what (and know a lot about this chip as well probably)
[13:49] <o__oll> david__, it sounded like you were booting to the KDE desktop automatically after, which by deafult wouldn't launch unity. If that were the case it would have been an easy fix
[13:49] <zaksoldier> Hi
[13:49] <rinkukokiri> atheros ar928x o__oll
[13:49] <o__oll> I'm just an intermediate user myself and haven't used unity much so i can't help much there unfortunately
[13:49] <rinkukokiri> er  wols srry o__oll
[13:50] <o__oll> np
[13:50] <david___> after i installed KDE then loged in to KDE then restarted my pc then i selected Ubuntu then Unity and panels didn't load
[13:50] <rinkukokiri> wols_, well, it seems if one user logs out while another is logged in the network applet disappears from the gnome-panel and I then have no internet connection
[13:51] <david___> so why the panels wont load :(
[13:51] <cdavis> How can I download headers for linux-2.6.35-28 I need those headers because I am running natty on that kernel
[13:51] <rinkukokiri> Can anyone tell me an alternative way to connect to a wireless connection (in case the network applet crashes again?)
[13:51] <o__oll> david__,  click log out. When you're logging back in there should be a dropdown box somwhere that allows you to chose your WM
[13:51] <o__oll> there select unity
[13:52] <wols_> rinkukokiri: that's not a wlan problem but very very much sounds like the typical shitty network manager idiocy :P
[13:52] <david___> i did
[13:52] <david___> it wont load :(
[13:52] <rinkukokiri> wols_, well. is there an alternative?
[13:52] <wols_> rinkukokiri: use wicd if you must have a network manager thingie or use /etc/network/interfaces directly
[13:52] <dr_willis> david__,  you could try a  'unity --reset' or 'unity --reset-icons'
[13:52] <dr_willis> david__,  ill exit lubuntu here and go to unity. I got kde, lxde and unity all installed... brb
[13:53] <david___> ok i go try it i will be back
[13:53] <squantrill> Printing at cli works using lpr,  openoffice printing works from firefox or other gnome apps it doesn't on ubuntu 10.04 any ideas where to look ?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: tried a different wireless channel?
[13:53] <david___> plz tell dr_willis i brb
[13:53] <rinkukokiri> ActionParsnip, can't try another channel when i can't manage the connection.
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: use a wired connection, or another pc
[13:54] <rinkukokiri> ActionParsnip,  that's not anywhere near what I was asking for... ._.
[13:54] <Castatroy> hello folks where does /etc/resolv.conf file get populated
[13:54]  * rinkukokiri realizes how useless this chat/release has become
[13:54] <rinkukokiri> ty wols_     peace all
[13:54] <Castatroy> when i manually change it - it get overwritten
[13:54] <squantrill> nobody knows about printing  ?
[13:55] <dr_willis> david__,  i see the same issue here.. got Kubuntu+ Ubuntu + lubuntu installed.. first time ive tried unity since installig kde... panels are not loading
[13:55] <cdavis> Castatroy: dhcp will rewrite that file each time
[13:55] <wols_> Castatroy: whenever you request a IP via dhcp it gets overwritten. there are several ways around it. the cleanest being a dhcp setting not to request a DNS server
[13:55] <dr_willis> david__,  unity --replace   made it come up however..
[13:56] <dr_willis> david__,  luckly i had a icon on the desktop to launch a terminal.. alt-f2 was not working either
[13:56] <wols_> dr_willis: ctrl+alt+f2 is always there...
[13:57] <cdavis> Castatroy: /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf has a prepend section where you can put your own dns
[13:59] <cdavis> How can I download headers for linux-2.6.35-28 I need those headers because I am currently running natty on that kernel
[13:59] <david___> :) thanks
[13:59] <dr_willis> !headers
[13:59] <david___> when u said that
[13:59] <david___> i searched for unity the i run that in KDE
[13:59] <Castatroy> cdavis: which parameter do i set for a nic in the /etc/net/interfaces file to set dns
[14:00] <david___> now is works thanks :)
[14:00] <david___> it*
[14:00] <wols_> cdavis: packages.ubuntu.com also has it if your current sources.list doesn't have it
[14:00] <scarleo> I don't get any update notifications any more after updating to Natty
[14:00] <david___> dr_willis thanks for the info
[14:00] <wols_> Castatroy: do you use DHCP on that NIC?
[14:00] <dr_willis> david__,  no idea why kde and unity would conflct like that.
[14:01] <Castatroy> wols_: please no
[14:01] <david___> but look i searched on the start menu of the KDE Unity
[14:01] <wols_> Castatroy: post-up script then I guess
[14:01] <david___> the run that now it's working
[14:01] <cdavis> Castatroy: I don't think you can setup DNS in the interfaces file
[14:01] <david___> then*
[14:01] <dr_willis> david__,  no idea what you mean by that.. You expected to find  'unity' in the kde menus?
[14:02] <dr_willis> Running Unity under kde.. would be.. weird. :)
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> possible though
[14:02] <david___> yah when u open KDE menus search for Unity
[14:02] <david___> lol
[14:02] <david___> yah it looks weird
[14:02] <Castatroy> cdavis: i guess thats where the difference lies between debian and ubuntu then
[14:02] <dr_willis> i cant even imagine why you would want to david__
[14:02] <david___> brb
[14:03] <dr_willis> I recall years ago accidently geting systems running gnome and kde both at the same time.. caused all sorts of weirdness
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> lxde+ unity2D = winning
[14:03] <AdvoWork> ive got a user "ftpmain" and im trying to make a user with pretty much the same permissions but so they can only view a certain folder when they login to my ftp. any ideas please?
[14:03] <dr_willis> so far i really havent seen much  to relate unity to 'win' :)  but it is getting improvements
[14:03] <david___> ok back
[14:03] <dr_willis> Now if the panel icons and top menu bar would quit getting all messed up when i run a browser..
[14:04] <dinkdink> i was on debian for a while.. locked up all the time
[14:04] <dinkdink> i was on 6.02 i believe it was
[14:04] <david___> lol but did u try run it on KDE?
[14:04] <dinkdink> on ppc64 architecture of course
[14:04] <dr_willis> david__,  i dont see the point of even trying thazt
[14:05] <dinkdink> no i went with fluxbox and xorg
[14:05] <dr_willis> You can run the gnome-panel on unity. :)
[14:05] <david___> lol it looks cool
[14:05] <david___> gnome?????
[14:05] <dinkdink> i'm on lxdm and LXDE in lucid now
[14:05] <dinkdink> LDXE?
[14:05] <Pici> !support
[14:05] <Pici> !ot
[14:05] <dr_willis> run gnome panel in unity and you get the normal top and bottom panels. and the side launcher panel. :)
[14:06] <david___> lol
[14:06] <david___> come on just try Unity for a sec in KDE
[14:06] <david___> tell me what u think
[14:06] <dinkdink> i would never do that
[14:06] <david___> dr_willis
[14:06] <Jack___> hey
[14:07] <dinkdink> o
[14:07] <Jack___> hello all
[14:07] <dr_willis> unity panel still messed up on me when i run  chromium/google chrome and go to a flash game like the angry birds site.
[14:07] <zaksoldier> Hi man
[14:07] <Jack___> can any 1 tell me how to remove ubuntu from windows boot
[14:07] <dinkdink> kde has better leaner running apps than gnome
[14:07] <david___> look now u on Ubuntu?
[14:07] <zaksoldier> Manual delete maybe
[14:07] <Jack___> no i am on windows
[14:07] <dr_willis> Jack___,  you did a WUBI install?
[14:08] <dinkdink> windows.. blehk
[14:08] <Jack___> everytime i start windows asks me to choose win 7 or ubuntu ..
[14:08] <dr_willis> wubi/installing inside windows.. should have a entry in the add/remove programs   tool.
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Jack___: how did you install it?
[14:08] <zaksoldier> Is good to choose
[14:08] <fa_effekt> is there a way to get ad hoc working on an ubuntu desktop?
[14:08] <Jack___> i dont remember may be pen drive
[14:08] <david___> dr_willis u are on Ubuntu?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Jack___: do you have ubuntu still installed?
[14:08] <squantrill> could my printing problem be caused by gtk2 ?
[14:08] <Jack___> no i have formatted that drive
[14:08] <zaksoldier> I did this also
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> fa_effekt: sure, use network manager
[14:09] <dr_willis> fa_effekt,  ive either had it work... or not work at all. :( i think it may have some relationship to the esact wireless card/drivers.
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Jack___: then use your windows install cd and reinstate the bootloader, ask in ##windows
[14:09] <zaksoldier> Install ubuntu if you are in windows
[14:09] <dr_willis> david__,  using unity right now. so yes.
[14:09] <david___> can login to KDE plz
[14:09] <fa_effekt> as of now the wireless card is reading all the wireless networks in the local area
[14:09] <david___> can you*
[14:09] <lsolesen> How do I change what happens on shutdown in Natty?
[14:09] <Jack___> isnt there any way to remove it  from windows.?
[14:10] <dr_willis> david__,  not right now
[14:10] <fa_effekt> but can't seem to get ad hoc to work
[14:10] <david___> ok one more thing
[14:10] <dr_willis> Jack___,  if you did a FULL/Normal install - you will want to reinstall the windows bootloader. then delete the linux partitions
[14:10] <fa_effekt> cell phone can't see the ad hoc station
[14:10] <dr_willis> Jack___,  a wubi install - will have an add/remove programs entry
[14:10] <zaksoldier> From boot.ini
[14:10] <david___> i want to run game like NFS HP 2010 on Ubuntu how i do that
[14:10] <Jack___> yeah from boot.ini
[14:10] <Jack___> how to do that
[14:10] <dr_willis> !wine | david__
[14:11] <david___> but i tryed that it wont let install that game idk why
[14:11] <dr_willis> Jack___,  if its in your boot.ini then you did a wubi install  i imagine... again.. see if theres a entry for it in the add/remove programs  tool/
[14:11] <zaksoldier> You will see 2 long lines delete 1 line that contains ubuntu and save
[14:11] <bazhang> check the appdb and join #winehq david___
[14:11] <bazhang> !appdb | david___
[14:12] <Auriga> david__, Not all games work under wine. Check at the wine website if others have installed it successfully or not.
[14:12] <david___> oh ok
[14:12] <david___> kk thanks everyone
[14:12] <Jack___> ok how to fix it through windows cd
[14:12] <AdvoWork> if ive got this user: ftp.user:x:1048:2002::/home/default/ftp.user:/bin/false   how would i make a user thats similar to that, but that has a specific path set for when they login?
[14:12] <karthick87> Where to get the firefox logs?
[14:12] <Jack___> its not there in add/remove
[14:12] <dr_willis> Jack___,  it all depends on if you did a WUBI insatll.. or a normal install.
[14:13] <Jack___> a normal install
[14:13] <dr_willis> Jack___,  if its a normal insatll. Youi want to reinstall the windows bootloader. then delete the linux patitions. Unless you want to keep linux in some way
[14:13] <zaksoldier> Ok
[14:13] <dr_willis> !mbr
[14:13] <Jack___> ok tell me how dr willis
[14:14] <dr_willis> Jack___,  reinstalling the windows mbr depends on your windows version. see #windows or the dozens of web sites that tell how to do it.
[14:14] <dr_willis> a real windows cd often makes it a lot easier.
[14:14] <david___> oh
[14:14] <Jack___> i have a real windows 7 cd
[14:14] <dr_willis> theres other live cds out that can do it also
[14:14] <david___> what about like OME users???
[14:14] <zaksoldier> Or via cfg boot in windows recovery console
[14:14] <bazhang> Jack___, ##windows for help
[14:14] <dr_willis> MS likes to change the commands to fix the mbr in every reelase.
[14:15] <Jack___> no 1 is replying in windows
[14:15] <dr_willis> david__,  theres windows cds you can download
[14:15] <dr_willis> MS has some repair cd images somewhere..
[14:15] <dinkdink> 7 puts vista to shame
[14:15] <david___> rly??? i didn't know that
[14:15] <bazhang> Jack___, that does not make this the windows support channel be patient
[14:15] <zaksoldier> Windows channel
[14:15] <bazhang> dinkdink, lets stay on topic please
[14:15] <Jack___> ha ha ok
[14:15] <dinkdink> lets not and say we did
[14:16] <dinkdink> ;)
[14:16] <Auriga> Anyone using dual monitors?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: i'm sure millions do
[14:16] <wols_> Auriga: ask your real question
[14:16] <Jack___> i thought linux users are the former master users of windows
[14:16] <Lanlost> o__oll, are you still here?
[14:16] <zaksoldier> Yes
[14:16] <dr_willis> Jack___,  are people whio have gotten sick of windows....
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Jack___: not strictly
[14:16] <Auriga> wols_, That was the real Q, no point in elaborating if no one online says yes...
[14:17] <Jack___> Sick of windows.? try Mac
[14:17] <Stockholm_Angel> help I need to fly somehere and therefore need to encrypt my disk again but its not showing up in xorg
[14:17] <zaksoldier> Linux cant be hacked
[14:17] <wols_> Auriga: you are wrong
[14:17] <bazhang> !xrandr | Auriga
[14:17] <Lanlost> o__oll, do you remember how I said the game works fine without the disk and only needs it for the cd audio? I just need the .ccd/.img into .bin/.cue so that I can mount it in dosbox so that the cd audio will play?
[14:17] <dr_willis> Jack___,  i will pass on macs - id rather use windows.
[14:17] <Stockholm_Angel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/629802/
[14:17] <wols_> zaksoldier: you talk rubbish. don't do that
[14:17] <Stockholm_Angel> zaksoldier: lies
[14:17] <Auriga> zaksoldier, Do you bother with Compiz still?
[14:17] <Jack___> linux cant be hacked.?
[14:17] <bazhang> zaksoldier, Jack___ thats enough
[14:17] <Stockholm_Angel> linux can be hacked if the user makes a weak password
[14:17] <Auriga> zaksoldier, or more the point the cube?
[14:17] <Jack___> hey angel
[14:17] <zaksoldier> Hi zero
[14:17] <david___> dr_willis what u think about Ubuntu vs Win7?
[14:17] <Auriga> wols_, Okay... You're right.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> david___: wrong channel for that dude
[14:18] <Jack___> stockholm is in netherlands right
[14:18] <bazhang> Jack___, please stop
[14:18] <dr_willis> The Compiz Cube in Unity - has issues.. Cube on Multi Monitor setups have issues... Unity on Multi Monitor setups has issues
[14:18] <david___> oh so sorry
[14:18] <Jack___> what happened bazhang.?
[14:18] <cloventt> This is the ubuntu support channel, if you want to discuss random things about ubuntu please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:18] <Chotaz> why does brasero corrupt every single CD I burn with it?(it's not the drive, growisofs works just fine for disk images) If I drag soem filed into a blank disc and click write to disk
[14:18] <dr_willis> One good thing about Unuity - it has gotten people to forget about that silly cube for the most part.
[14:18] <Chotaz> after burnint itll say that the files may be corrupt
[14:18] <bazhang> Jack___, that has zero to do with ubuntu support.
[14:19] <dinkdink> notice Jack___ sweden
[14:19] <dr_willis> Chotaz,  ive heard bad things about brasero also.. try one fo the many other burning apps.
[14:19] <Jack___> oh no friendly chat allowed here.?
[14:19] <Auriga> dr_willis, I have no issues with it thus far, just in Windows it makes a huge difference to productivity. In Linux though... The cube seems more valuable than a dual setup.
[14:19] <Pici> Jack___: Use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat.
[14:19] <Lanlost> o__oll, AcetoneISO lets you make an ISO from a cdrom. I mounted the .ccd using gCDEmu. It mounts two seperate drives. One for the audio and fir the data. I then went to AcetoneISO and told it to make an audio image of /dev/sr0 (where it mounded the audio) and it made a bin that is like 80mb. Tehnically, this should work for the game as it will look for this portion of the disk anyway
[14:19] <Pici> Jack___: #ubuntu is strictly support.
[14:19] <dr_willis> I find the cube useless.
[14:19] <Lanlost> pici, before you say it for me too.. sorry
[14:19] <cloventt> Jack___: if you want to chat randomly go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:19] <Lanlost> I thought I was in offtopic
[14:19] <Chotaz> dr_willis, suggestion please?
[14:19] <dr_willis> !burn
[14:19] <dr_willis> Chotaz,  personally i always use k3b
[14:20] <o__oll> lanlost that should work, alternatively just rip the music and burn it as audio cd to a disc
[14:20] <o__oll> and instert that disk
[14:20] <dr_willis> xfburn seems ok also.
[14:20] <Stockholm_Angel> dr_willis: i feel Pici putting there kick ban bootson
[14:20] <dinkdink> wodim is great
[14:20] <dinkdink> growisofs too
[14:20] <Chotaz> huh, I dont feel like downloading a whole new dm just to get a burning app
[14:21] <dinkdink> both great
[14:21] <Chotaz> wodim
[14:21] <Chotaz> ill try that
[14:21] <david___> ok i am going to WineHQ chat take care bye
[14:21] <dr_willis> Chotaz,  who said you had to....
[14:21] <dinkdink> chotaz are you burning iso to cd
[14:21] <dr_willis> Chotaz,  k3b is just a kde app..
[14:21] <david___> thanks for everything
[14:21] <Chotaz> i try to install k3b and it asks me to download 245MB worth of files,
[14:21] <dr_willis> Chotaz,  big deal.... ive seen theme packs bigger then that.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Chotaz: yep, because it uses Qt, not GTK
[14:22] <dinkdink> Chotaz: well before you run off to wodim.. it's a command line tool
[14:22] <Chotaz> dinkdink, no problem with that
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> xfburn is sweet and light
[14:22] <dinkdink> man up ;)
[14:22] <dinkdink> \
[14:22] <Chotaz> I just need to burn 3 cds urgently.
[14:22] <dr_willis> I saw some new optical burning app mentioned on omgubuntu or webupd8 yesterday also
[14:22] <dr_willis> Chotaz,   try xfburn then
[14:22] <lenzoid> Help!!! after installing nvidia proprietary drivers I ended up with a ubuntu one-ish desktop. I uninstalled ubuntu-one though but it's still.. where did the old gnome UI go??? Pls help
[14:23] <dr_willis> !classic | lenzoid
[14:23] <dinkdink> chotaz do this sudo wodim --devices
[14:23] <dr_willis> No idea what Ubuntu-one-ish means....
[14:23] <lenzoid> dr_willis: Thnks ;D
[14:23] <Chotaz> dinkdink, did
[14:24] <lenzoid> Unity, right that was its name....
[14:24] <dr_willis> sounds like the nvidia drivers may not be in use.. or miss-installed.
[14:24] <dinkdink> Chotaz: sudo wodim -eject -tao speed=96 -v -data /dev/scd# /pat/to/image.iso
[14:25] <Rob_K> hi, i was wondering if there is a tool that lists any system changes like a changelog, perhaps any packages that have been added or removed? does such a tool exist??  thx
[14:25] <dinkdink> Chotaz: replace /dev/scd# with your actual burner and path to image to actual location of image
[14:25] <Chotaz> its a buncha files, not an iso, i'd use growisofs for that
[14:25] <AdvoWork> ive got 2 users that im trying to make the same. uid=1048(testuser) gid=2002(matrixdomain) groups=2002(matrixdomain) AND uid=2002(newuser) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),2002(matrixdomain)  how do i make newuser have the gid 2002?
[14:25] <dinkdink> Chotaz: well cant help you there.. havent done that myself
[14:26] <Pici> Rob_K: There are a number of logs in /var/log for that. Look at /var/log/dpkg.log for package installs/removes
[14:26] <Chotaz> xfburn worked just fine, thanks dinkdink, ActionParsnip and dr_willis
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> yeah light apps with the day again :)
[14:27] <wols_> AdvoWork: you can edit your /etc/passwd  but be careful
[14:27] <Rob_K> Pici: thanks i will take a look.  I do a weekly backup of my server, and i though if there was a tool to create a list of changes for the past week, it would be nice to include in the backup
[14:27] <monkey> game development channel?
[14:27] <dinkdink> Chotaz: but if i were you i might looking into creating an iso of your files
[14:27] <dr_willis> !inf
[14:27] <bazhang> !alis | monkey
[14:27] <Chotaz> dinkdink, any particular reason?
[14:28] <dinkdink> Chotaz: working with images is less messy
[14:28] <Pici> Rob_K: I personally use logwatch, it sends me a daily email with log entries for the logs I want to look at.  I believe  you can specify the frequency as well.
[14:29] <Rob_K> Pici: that sounds like exactly what i'm looking for, thanks
[14:30] <Castatroy> which command can i use to convert a file system from fat32 to ntfs
[14:31] <DarsVaeda> Hi, I'm just in the process of upgrading to natty - whilst it shutdown my msyql server..which is a bit "not so good" cause I can work with it right now, the upgrade process should mention that!
[14:32] <dinkdink> Castatroy: i would look into gparted, they make a live cd
[14:32] <AdvoWork> wols_, they now match, but what controls if a user can login or not? my one user can, my other one cant :S
[14:32] <ThinkT510> Castatroy: if you want to keep the data on it, back the data up first then format it with gparted
[14:32] <Castatroy> ok
[14:33] <monkey> i m new to backtrack 5................where to find beginners manual or guide?
[14:34] <sudokill> their website
[14:34] <ThinkT510> !backtrack | monkey
[14:34] <bazhang> monkey, go to backtrack channel for that
[14:34] <dinkdink> backtrack has a channel here bro
[14:34]  * dr_willis wonders why beginners always seem to want to use backtrack,.
[14:34] <sudokill> makes people leet
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> monkey: ask in #backtrack-linux
[14:34]  * edbian wonders why backtrack people always seem to come to the #ubuntu channel
[14:34] <dr_willis> !manual | monkey
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> edgars: no idea
[14:35] <dr_willis> edbian,  i think the bt people havent changed the irc client to go else where by defaultg
[14:35]  * sudokill think it's funny some people use backtrack as their main os, because they think it's more secure
[14:35] <dinkdink> is that what it is
[14:35] <dr_willis> edbian,  go file a bug report on their site. :)
[14:35] <dinkdink> that explains a lot
[14:36] <dinkdink> gnash finally finished compiling yay
[14:36] <dinkdink> i want to ask about the minimal cd
[14:36] <dinkdink> has anyone actually installed here
[14:37] <sudokill> what ubuntu?
[14:37] <dr_willis> !minimal
[14:37] <dinkdink> well if i do it it's gonna be oneiric.. i'm on lucid
[14:38] <bazhang> dinkdink, yes, what's the question
[14:38] <sudokill> i was wondering about minimal
[14:38] <edbian> dr_willis: ha, Maybe I will...
[14:38] <sudokill> is it similar to arch?
[14:39] <Pici> sudokill: Its Ubuntu with nearly nothing installed.
[14:39] <dinkdink> i don't really have a question of specificity i just want to know in general how does it compare to ubuntu server because i need the optimum low resource install for ppc64.. just found out about lubuntu-desktop and  it runs faster than fluxbox on xorg
[14:39] <sudokill> yea, but is the installer similar to arch?
[14:39] <bazhang> sudokill, no idea
[14:39] <ThinkT510> sudokill: sort of, it gives you a core system which you can build up from (but arch is rolling-release)
[14:39] <sudokill> i know
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> dinkdink: then use lubuntu then, server has no X server so will be even faster
[14:40] <sudokill> ubuntu minimal sounds good
[14:40] <dinkdink> ActionParsnip: i am on lubntu now
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> dinkdink: its all I use :)
[14:40] <dinkdink> ActionParsnip: but if i were to minimal install rather than server install would that be worth it
[14:41] <penquite> Hi all
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> dinkdink: not really, if you want a server install server. If you want minimal, use minimal
[14:42] <dinkdink> arch is rolling-release, can you elaborate. i thought arch was another distro
[14:42] <sudokill> arch constantly updates
[14:42] <sudokill> like gentoo
[14:42] <sudokill> no new release every 6 months
[14:42] <Auriga> dinkdink, when you update Arch, that is the latest release.
[14:42] <sudokill> with arch the only command u need is pacman -Syyu
[14:42] <sudokill> thats it
[14:42] <bazhang> !ot
[14:43] <sudokill> jeez im only explaining
[14:43] <bazhang> its the wrong place sudokill
[14:43] <dinkdink> sounds good but i doubt it will run on my ppc64 architecture
[14:43] <nnull> rather trivial issue, full screen flash (eg: youtube) is very chuggy, any ideas on how i may resolve this?
[14:43] <edbian> dinkdink: gentoo would
[14:43] <sudokill> nnull, is it 32 bit flash on 64 bit?
[14:43] <edbian> but this is offtopic
[14:44] <Auriga> dinkdink, Try it & see.
[14:44] <penquite> Could someone help me out with a groups / permissions thing in Ubuntu server?
[14:44] <dinkdink> and chrooting and building my own system is beyond my capability at the moment
[14:44] <nnull> 32bit sudokill
[14:44] <nnull> on 32 bit
[14:44] <nnull> lol :)
[14:44] <sudokill> nnull, idk i heard 32 bit flash on 64 has some problems but i hear flash on linux isnt 100% great anyway
[14:44] <sudokill> nnull, try reinstalling flash
[14:44] <sudokill> it helped me once
[14:44] <dinkdink> i got a hold of gentoo minimal but non of the images would load
[14:45] <sudokill> dinkdink, pm me
[14:45] <Guest44668> I have a question, why don't I have drop-down menus in any of my application windows?  Is that a normal thing for the latest Ubuntu?
[14:45] <blady> HALO
[14:45] <edbian> Guest44668: Yes, they are at the top now (like a MAC)
[14:45] <blady> siema
[14:45] <bazhang> !pl | blady
[14:45] <Auriga> edbian, You mean Unity works like mac too....?
[14:45] <Auriga> Lol.
[14:45] <edbian> Auriga: Yeah sure, they're identical
[14:45] <Guest44668> I never had amac, and I can't find them at all.
[14:46] <edbian> Guest44668: Very top
[14:46] <blady> hello everybody
[14:46] <Auriga> edbian, Oh man, thanks, glad I didn't upgrade.
[14:46] <Guest44668> Is there a way to change it back?
[14:46] <edbian> Auriga: :)
[14:46] <Auriga> Guest44668, When you log in, look at the bottom.
[14:46] <bazhang> Guest44668, choose classic from the login window
[14:46] <edbian> Guest44668: Log out, click your name, change session to Ubuntu classic, log in
[14:46] <sudokill> Guest44668, i think classic mode
[14:46] <Auriga> Guest44668, There is a menu there.
[14:46] <Guest44668> Awesome, thanks!
[14:47] <Auriga> Is Unity going to be in the next LTS?
[14:49] <nnull> just fyi, answer to my own previous question = flash setting change 100k drive use to 10 meg, fixed full screen flash chugging
[14:49] <Kartagis> can I install ff3 and ff4 side by side?
[14:49] <edbian> Kartagis: THere is a way to do it, yes
[14:49] <Kartagis> edbian: google?
[14:50] <edbian> Kartagis: I can just tell you.  Do you have a firefox installed right now?
[14:50]  * edbian misses Goliath
[14:50] <Kartagis> edbian: yes
[14:50] <Kartagis> edbian: ff4
[14:50] <AdvoWork> anyone got any ideas why when ive made a new user, same groups/gid etc as another user, why one can login to the ftp but another cant?
[14:50] <edbian> Kartagis: You wanna add firefox 3 then.  Go to the website and download the version for linux.
[14:51] <Kartagis> edbian: and then?
[14:51] <edbian> Kartagis: I'm thinking.
[14:52] <edbian> Kartagis: I think the best way to do it is to download ff3 from the site, and make a special symlink for it in /usr/local/bin/
[14:52] <Kartagis> edbian: okay thanks
[14:53] <edbian> Kartagis: It is difficult to find a copy of ff3 on the site though :/
[14:54] <zerium1> having issue with video card in 11.04 not outputting highest resolution... been looking on the web but cant seem to find a solution
[14:56] <zerium1> it is only displaying 1280x800 on my dell d630c
[14:57] <zerium1> windows would output 1440 x 900
[14:59] <penquite> Would anyone be able to take a guess at why when I type members www-data, my username is in there, but when I type groups, the www-data group doesn't appear in the list?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> guys, my wired eth0 connection won't connect anymore, don't know why -- it works correctly when i use a live cd -- hints & tips?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> zerium1: which video chip?
[14:59] <zerium1> ActionParsnip: nvida quadro nvs 135m
[14:59] <nibbler_> MonkeyDust, does it show up properly in the network manager? can you nopaste /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> nibbler_: it says: not managed
[15:00] <nibbler_> MonkeyDust, that points to the 2nd part of my question/request ;-)
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> zerium1: you may need to run: sudo nvidia-xconfig    then manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to set the res
[15:01] <zerium1> ActionParsnip: ok
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> nibbler_: what's the paste url again?
[15:01] <nibbler_> !nopaste | MonkeyDust
[15:01] <nibbler_> !paste | MonkeyDust
[15:02] <zerium1> ActionParsnip: guessing i need ot edit the xorg.conf since my resolution isn't in the nvidia xserver settings
[15:02] <zerium1> ?
[15:02] <jebula> Could someone help me figure out how to reinstall alsamixer? For some reason it is saying that it isn't found. I have reinstalled alsa-utils etc.. with no luck.
[15:03] <gconf> hi..last time someone helped me to save all the deb packages in a folder.the folder was automatically created and was named as dpkg-repack.Does anyone know the command line to copy all the packages in a folder ?
[15:04] <zerium1> ActionParsnip: when i tried to run 'sudo nvida-xconfig' i got the following
[15:04] <nimrod10> jebula, try to purge alsa-utils and reinstall it
[15:04] <zerium1> data incomplete...
[15:04] <nimrod10> jebula, according to packages.ubuntu.com   alsa-utils contains  alsamixe
[15:04] <david____> dr_willis u still loged in Ubuntu?
[15:05] <jebula> nimrod10, yup
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> zerium1: you'll get a message, it's ok to ignore
[15:05] <zerium1> ActionParsnip: ok... looks like it populated it, is there a url to where i need to add my max resolution?
[15:05] <zerium1> url to instructions...
[15:05] <david____> ok anyway try Unity on KDE then l8r i come ask u what u think about it :)
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> zerium1: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     then read the file, its obvious :)
[15:06] <david____> lol kind look nice
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> nibbler_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/629829/
[15:07] <lsolesen> is it possible to have the shutdown signal point to e.g. mythshutdown instead of what it is doing by default?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> nibbler_: correction: http://paste.ubuntu.com/629833/
[15:09] <iridium> hey guys, anybody pci-e cards have/can use system memory like agp's memory aperture size?
[15:09] <iridium> *knows
[15:09] <adoet_t> wht
[15:09] <zerium1> ActionParsnip: i didnt see a resolution section
[15:09] <wols_> of course they do. but how is this ubuntu related iridium?
[15:10] <iridium> it is... since Hardware channel got invite only
[15:10] <nibbler_> MonkeyDust, well, it says it uses DHCP which is almost as good as network manager (or even better, depending on the case) - but comment out line #7 and retry? (might require restart of network manager, window system... so maybe just reboot)
[15:10] <iridium> thank you wols_
[15:10] <wols_> iridium: no it's not. just register with nickserv and you can go in. even then, it's still not ubuntu related
[15:10] <klevison> sometimes my ubuntu crashes and logtou it self, what could cause it? where can I see a log to know waht can cause this?
[15:11] <jkbrntot> klevison: you can look at error logs on System ->administration -> Log file viewer
[15:12] <adoet_t> which ubuntu version?
[15:12] <Fudge> how can i remove a package thats marked iU
[15:12] <Fudge> somethign is conflicting with it
[15:12] <jkbrntot> * dpending on version yes :|
[15:12] <jebula> Still no luck with alsa. I get no sound and it doesn't load any snd modules
[15:13] <klevison> jkbrntot, I'm at gnome 3
[15:13] <jkbrntot> klevison: ah...  no idea then :P
[15:13] <w00> hi
[15:14] <Stockholm_Angel> how do i flip the page in the office programme on ubuntu11.04 so its landscape not portrate
[15:14] <nerdy_kid> hi, I encrypted a 5.7GB tar file and got a 3.9GB pgp file...is it supposed to be that small?
[15:14] <Fudge> dpkg -r package:arch
[15:14] <klevison> adoet_t,  natty
[15:14] <w00> I have in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades set: APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; but i would like to know how can i check that it updated the package list?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> zerium1: ok then run:  gksudo nvidia-settings      and set the resolution to something, click 'save to x config file'
[15:15] <klevison> sometimes my ubuntu natty crashes and logtou it self, what could cause it? where can I see a log to know waht can cause this?
[15:15] <klevison> ops
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> zerium1: you can then change the numbers of the res you set to the one you desire
[15:15] <klevison> this is my problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/778490?comments=all
[15:15] <zerium1> ActionParsnip: thanks
[15:15] <Roasted> Will Ubuntu's startup disk creator also work for making a live USB drive of Fedora 15?
[15:15] <jebula> Is anyone able to help me out with some alsa problems?
[15:15] <jkbrntot> klevison: you can still try running Log file viewer, though it has been known to crash on gnome 3
[15:15] <ikonia> Roasted: the supported distros are in the drop down list, the non-supported ones can be pushed, but obviously, not supported
[15:15] <Roasted> ikonia, appreciate it. thanks.
[15:16] <Roasted> ikonia, wait are you talking about unetbootin?
[15:16] <Roasted> ikonia, what you explain with a drop down list sounds like unetbootin. I was referring to Ubuntu's "Startup Disk Creator"
[15:17] <ikonia> Roasted: ahhh, my apologies, in that case, no I don't believe it will work, but I'm not %100 certain
[15:17] <gamer1990> I can't install gnome-icon-themes-extra, I get only this message: http://pastebin.com/722jDVD6
[15:18] <zerium1> ActionParsnip: wasn't there but i looked up how to set it... do i need to reboot for the changes to take effect?
[15:18] <suigeneris> hi
[15:18] <Roasted> ikonia, all right. I'm trying to get my non-CD drive laptop to boot F15, but unetbootin seems to fail when I make a flash drive. Other users in the Fedora chat confirmed unetbootin's issues with it, so I was trying to find alternatives, such as DD (also failed) and ubuntu's startup disk gizmo.
[15:18] <ikonia> gamer1990: broken package
[15:18] <ikonia> Roasted: I think your onto a dead one with the startup disk creator tool
[15:18] <suigeneris> is it a bug that I can't type in mount point field when installing natty?
[15:18] <gamer1990> the package is broken since last year
[15:18] <Roasted> ikonia, it won't work it seems. It won't even allow me to select Fedora, yet Gparted, lubuntu, ubuntu, edubuntu, and my other ISOs are fine to select. sigh...
[15:19] <adoet_t> can gnome 3 installed on ubuntu lucid?
[15:19] <ikonia> adoet_t: gnome 3 is not a supported/stable package in ubuntu
[15:19] <ikonia> (well the gnome-shell gnome3 enivornment)
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> adoet_t: with a ppa, yes
[15:20] <jkbrntot> jebula: what version ubuntu are you on?
[15:20] <jebula> jkbrntot, 11.04
[15:20] <w00> I have in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades set: APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; but i would like to know how can i check that it *really* updated the package list?
[15:20] <Roasted> ikonia, 11.10 ships with Gnome 3 though, right?
[15:21] <ikonia> Roasted: no, not properly, it's still the unity/gnome environment
[15:21] <jkbrntot> jebula: no sound at all? have you tried changing settings on the panel's sound preferences? (e.g. unmuting?)
[15:21] <jebula> jkbrntot, no sound card is being displayed just the pulseaudio dummy card.
[15:21] <v_y> will ubuntu11 live installed on a usb stick have a persistent fs?
[15:22] <Roasted> ikonia, well I know Unity comes by default, but Unity (starting with 11.10) will be Gnome 3 based, so Gnome Shell, I would think, would work as good as any other distro once you install Gnome Shell. Eh??
[15:22] <ikonia> Roasted: 11.04 is gnome 3 based
[15:22] <Roasted> ikonia, I'm almost certain that isn't true...
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you sure ;)
[15:22] <Roasted> ikonia, in fact I'm positive Unity is based on 2.X
[15:22] <ikonia> parts of it certainly is
[15:22] <Pici> ikonia, Roasted: gnome3? do you mean gtk3?
[15:22] <BlouBlou> ikonia: it's gnome2 with parts of gtk3
[15:22] <Roasted> Pici, I suppose. I just know it as Gnome 2.X or Gnome 3.0, etc.
[15:22] <jkbrntot> jebula: ah no sound card detected at all, has it ever worked in the past? what environment?
[15:23] <krux> http://developer.gnome.org/jhbuild/stable/ you try jhbuild ?.. to get gnome3
[15:23] <Pici> Roasted: They're not the same thing.
[15:23] <ikonia> BlouBlou: thank you, that's a better description
[15:23] <ikonia> Roasted: BlouBlou's got it better
[15:23] <jebula> jkbrntot, yes it worked OK on here up until some updates were ran. I tried to revert back without any luck.
[15:23] <Roasted> ikonia, gotcha.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: ahhh that explains a lot
[15:24] <Roasted> I certainly hope 11.10's Gnome Shell support is solid. It was just added to 11.10's official repos, so that says something
[15:24] <Roasted> I think I'll venture over to the +1 room though
[15:24] <remi_h05> bonjour
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> I've 11.10 on ,y laptop, runs well, just like every other release I've thown at it
[15:25] <jkbrntot> jebula: did you try purging and reinstalling alsa?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316634
[15:25] <jkbrntot> *2009 post
[15:25] <jebula> jkbrntot, several times.
[15:26] <sveinse> Hi. My natty (in ubuntu classic) has started to behave very strange. When I log in I get 40 windows with "Starting file manager" and the file manager wont work any more. Any ideas how to approach this problem?
[15:26] <jkbrntot> jebula: reboot after installing?  :) sorry just had to ask
[15:26] <sveinse> I haven't done anything particular except the usual apt update
[15:26] <jebula> jkbrntot, yup
[15:27] <sveinse> Likewise meld complains about missing pygtk, even though it's installed
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: reinstall nautilus, see if it helps
[15:28] <jkbrntot> jebula: also purged and reinstalled pulseaudio?
[15:28] <jebula> jkbrntot, yes
[15:28] <jkbrntot> jebula: what's your soundcard
[15:28] <dr_willis> sveinse,  coould be a messed up saved 'session' also. does the issue affect other users on the system?
[15:28] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Do you know if nautilus has py bindings in any way? Perhaps the meld and nautilus issue are related
[15:29] <jebula> jkbrntot: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[15:29] <CppIsWeird> i restarted gdm, now my top bar is gone, what do?
[15:30] <jebula> jkbrntot, brb going to try to reboot again..
[15:30] <jkbrntot> jebula: what is actually displayed on alsa GUI sound preferences hardware tab?
[15:30] <jkbrntot> ok jebula
[15:31] <jebula> jkbrntot, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory; for alsamixer
[15:31] <jkbrntot> jebula: that's displayed when you click on sound icon?
[15:32] <usr13> CppIsWeird: I think you can just restore defaults pretty easily.  rm -r .gnome2
[15:33] <usr13> CppIsWeird: In the file manager, hit Ctrl-h  and then right click and delete .gnom2
[15:34] <usr13> *.gnome2
[15:34] <dr_willis> unity --reset may be easier...
[15:34] <Goliath> i am doing (echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf) but my resolv.conf gets overwritten on boot.... what should i do to stop this?
[15:34] <rudra> could not update ICEauthority file /var/lib/gdm.ICEauthority  ---what does this mean can somebody help?
[15:34] <ikonia> Goliath: don't use gnome network manager, or tools of that nature
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Goliath: add the DNS server in network manager
[15:35] <ikonia> Goliath: also dhcp could be doing it
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Goliath: set the interface to DHCP address only, then set 127.0.0.1, 8.8.8.8   as your DNS
[15:35] <altsupwin> helow
[15:35] <usr13> Goliath: are you using DHCP?
[15:35] <rudra> i'm not able to login into ubuntu
[15:35] <strowi> hi
[15:36] <sagaci> H
[15:36] <usr13> rudra: Did you forget your password?
[15:36] <altsupwin> please is posible indicate me the channel for spanish people here, thanks !
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> !es
[15:36] <altsupwin> thankssssss
[15:36] <jkbrntot> jebula: i see you used alsamixer...   looks like you need to reinstall alsa properly
[15:37] <muay-guy> hello, can I get some directions on how to set up my local apache server to be accessible from outside my network? I already registered a co.cc domain and forwarded my outside 80 port to the internal 80 port but not sure where to go from there
[15:38] <Goliath> usr13: i am using dhcp yes
[15:39] <usr13> !password | rudra
[15:39] <viruxINf3ct3d> hi
 no it is hiving me a error msg before start up and i'm unable to see the login page --- could not update ICEauthority file /var/lib/gdm.ICEauthority
[15:39] <zerium1> for some reason when i edit xorg.conf the settings aren't showing up in nvidia settings manager
[15:39] <Goliath> usr13: i read that i could edit dhclient.conf and use supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; but it didnt work
[15:39] <usr13> Goliath: Sounds like the router is sending out wrong IP info.  You need to re-configure the router with proper nameserver IPs
[15:40] <viruxINf3ct3d> was trying to configure my internet usb to work with a direction
[15:40] <usr13> Goliath: Yea you can edit the config file and tell it not to request nameserver
[15:40] <smftre> where's the apache2 error log on ubuntu?
[15:40] <viruxINf3ct3d> but the gnome ppp is not showing up
[15:40] <dr_willis> zerium1,  you are restarting the X server after editing the xorg.conf >
[15:40] <viruxINf3ct3d> heellllooo
[15:40] <zerium1> dr_willis: yeah i enabled ctrl-alt-backspace
[15:41] <zerium1> and restart it...
[15:41] <dr_willis> theres a gnome gui tool to enable that.. - just a few ckicks and its done.
[15:41] <asab_> how can I resize my ubuntu ext4 partition? (was created in a 2TB hard disk, 500gbs for ubuntu)
[15:41] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[15:41] <penquite> @muay-guy, Have you just tried getting someone to browse to you via your IP address?
[15:41] <asab_> I want to keep my original data (about 30gbs) and divide the partition into 2 250gbs paritions.
[15:41] <dr_willis> asab_,  live cd with gparted - is proberly the easiest way
[15:41] <nerdy_kid> asab_, boot from a liveCD and run gparted
[15:41] <usr13> Goliath: Actually what you would do is add line:  prepend domain-name-servers 4.2.2.2
[15:42] <asab_> what actually is a liveCD?
[15:42] <usr13> Goliath: Add the line to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[15:42] <muay-guy> penquite: I haven't but I'll do it right now
[15:42] <nerdy_kid> asab_, if you stick the cd that you installed Ubuntu from into your computer drive and reboot it should run off of the CD
[15:42] <zerium1> dr_willis: issue is my max resolution isn't right...
[15:42] <jebula> jkbrntot, how could i reinstall it properly?
[15:42] <usr13> Goliath:  prepend domain-name-servers 4.2.2.2;  #Dont' forget the ; at end of line.
[15:43] <usr13> Goliath: You can substitute 4.2.2.2 with nameserver IP of your choice
[15:44] <viruxINf3ct3d> i thought one could get help here?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> viruxINf3ct3d: you can
[15:44] <MoonTiger> is this the channel for dev stuff?
[15:45] <CppIsWeird> um, removing .gnome2 made everything dissappear
[15:45] <usr13> MoonTiger: This channel is for help-ees and help-ers
[15:45] <tsimpson> MoonTiger: no, just technical user support
[15:45] <usr13> MoonTiger: Your choice
[15:45] <MoonTiger> ok thnx
[15:45] <MoonTiger> any idea where the ubuntu dev channel is?
[15:46] <viruxINf3ct3d> pls am having trouble configuring my usb broadband to work on ubuntu
[15:46] <viruxINf3ct3d> any help ppplllss
[15:46] <tsimpson> MoonTiger: #ubuntu-app-devel is the channel for people wanting to develop software on ubuntu, #ubuntu-devel for developing software for ubuntu
[15:46] <usr13> MoonTiger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[15:46] <MoonTiger> thnx :)
[15:46] <MoonTiger> viruxINf3ct3d, what does dmesg say?
[15:47] <REK_007> Am facing this problem while mounting a drive :http://pastebin.com/R7KrN3vt
[15:47] <REK_007> and its no mounting at start up even as it used to
[15:47] <MoonTiger> viruxINf3ct3d, unplug it ... plug it in ... wait 3 seconds and type "dmesg"
[15:47] <Taev> Not exactly an ubuntu question and Im sorry for asking it but Im desperate, anyone here live in Chicago or has flown through there? Im trying to find out which airport is bigger i.e. longer runways in Chicago either Midway or O'Hare
[15:47] <viruxINf3ct3d> jst didnt work
[15:47] <MoonTiger> ohare
[15:47] <Taev> Thanks
[15:47] <jebula> jkbrntot, how could i reinstall alsa properly?
[15:47] <Taev> I shall never ask off topic questions again, thank you so much for your assistance
[15:48] <usr13> viruxINf3ct3d: Try what MoonTiger said.  He will help you.
[15:48] <MoonTiger> viruxINf3ct3d, dmesg didnt work?
[15:48] <Goliath> usr13: what does prepend do?
[15:48] <jkbrntot> jebula: wait try this first in terminal, it's supposed to display your sound card if it's detected properly by the system
[15:48] <viruxINf3ct3d> MoonTiger, now am using windows, i'd have to switch to ubuntu to try it again
[15:48] <jkbrntot> $ sudo aplay -l
[15:48] <usr13> Goliath: It will place nameserver IP(s) at top of list in your /etc/resolv.conf file.
[15:49] <jebula> jkbrntot: cat /proc/asound/devices?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> viruxINf3ct3d: if you run:  lsusb   there will be an 8 character hex ID you can use to find guides
[15:49] <usr13> Goliath: (Your system will use the one at the top of the list first.)
[15:49] <td123> is unity based on gtk2 and gnome3 based on gtk3?
[15:49] <jkbrntot> jebula: sudo aplay -l
[15:49] <Goliath> usr13: so only the one on top is used?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> td123: yes
[15:49] <usr13> Goliath: ... so make sure the one at the top of the list is a valid nameserver.
[15:49] <jebula> jkbrntot, none found
[15:49] <viruxINf3ct3d> <ActionParsnip, have done that
[15:49] <usr13> Goliath: Yes
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> viruxINf3ct3d: what is the ID?
[15:50] <td123> does ubuntu plan on developing unity or support a gnome3 version of ubuntu?
[15:50] <REK_007> Can anyone help ?
[15:50] <MoonTiger> viruxINf3ct3d, cant help you if ur not running ubuntu rightnow ;)
[15:50] <usr13> Goliath: Only the one at the top of the list is used, UNLESS, dhclient times out waiting for response.  In which case it will try the next one.  etc.
[15:51] <mnaines> Does Ubuntu support Radeon HD video cards?
[15:51] <MoonTiger> mnaines, mine does
[15:51] <Goliath> usr13: i did supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; instead
[15:51] <Goliath> of prepend
[15:51] <dr_willis> td123,  i think the plan is on focusing on Unity
[15:51] <Goliath> usr13: i have read it in a guide
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> REK_007: how are you trying to mount the partition (you can't mount drives)
[15:51] <usr13> Goliath: Ok, well, try it and see.
[15:51] <viruxINf3ct3d> theres tut am following, it ask to install gnome-ppp, after i did and follow the instruction but the terminal jst did not show up
[15:51] <mnaines> MoonTiger, I keep hearing that the graphics become slow and laggy with ATi...At least that's what the reviews said for the drivers on Ubuntu 11.04
[15:52] <MoonTiger> mnaines, what card do you have?
[15:52] <IPNixon> how do i disable the screen blanking in server 9.10?
[15:52] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: I used storage device manager to automount the partition but suddenly from yesterday it doesnt load on start up
[15:52] <mnaines> I currently have the GeForce 210 but I want to upgrade to a Radeon HD 5670
[15:52] <usr13> Goliath: but if you are using 127.0.0.1, you will find that it is already there.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> IPNixon: karmic support is dead
[15:52] <usr13> Goliath: Or it should be.
[15:52] <MoonTiger> mnaines, i have the hd3650 or something (thinkpad t500) and no lag
[15:53] <inashdeen> hi, anyone know how to get the effect library on pitivi working on ubuntu?
[15:53] <dr_willis> IPNixon,  theres a stty command/setting i recall to disable bpanking on the console.
[15:53] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: And now it doesn't allow to mount the drive without root privileges
[15:53] <Goliath> usr13: shouldnt i change also dhcp/dhclient.conf?
[15:53] <Goliath> or only dhcp3
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> REK_007: what groups are you in?
[15:53] <mnaines> By the way, MoonTiger, is the 512MB version of the Radeon HD 5670 overkill for games like IMVU, WoW, or Urban Terror when played on Ubuntu?
[15:53] <MoonTiger> mnaines, why not try it with a live boot?
[15:53] <usr13> Goliath: I think you can also take out "domain-name-servers" from the request line, and just put what you want in /etc/resolv.conf and be done with it.
[15:53] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: How to check that ?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> REK_007: run:   groups
[15:53] <MoonTiger> mnaines, you can never have too much vram ;)
[15:54] <wonka_> redhat is dead?
[15:54] <zerium1> can you scale down the size of the icons in 11.04 on the left bar?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> wonka_: not at all
[15:54] <jkbrntot> jebula: what happens if you type "amixer" in the terminal
[15:54] <mnaines> MoonTiger, which matters more for OpenGL and Ubuntu, video memory amount or clock speeds?
[15:54] <wonka_> I happy to hear it
[15:54] <usr13> Goliath:  The file /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file is what we were talking about.  Right?
[15:54] <Goliath> usr13: yes but resolv/conf gets overwritten
[15:54] <Goliath> usr13: yes
[15:54] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: rohan adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[15:54] <dr_willis> zerium1,  yes. vya the unity plugin in the CCSM tool
[15:54] <dr_willis> !ccsm | zerium1
[15:54] <jebula> jkbrntot: amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory
[15:54] <Goliath> usr13: also exist one colled /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf which is similar
[15:54] <Goliath> to what you said
[15:55] <Goliath> called
[15:55] <MoonTiger> mnaines, i would say vram ... if the caches have to be flushed to fit big texture maps performance will die
[15:55] <mnaines> Thanks, MoonTiger
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> REK_007: looks like mine, should be ok
[15:55] <usr13> Goliath: You are correct.  /etc/resolv.conf gets nameserver IP(s) from your router during DHCP request.
[15:55] <fiaxh> moin
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> REK_007: it it on a USB storage?
[15:55] <jkbrntot> jebula: try sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[15:55] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: I have 2 partitions on 2 different Hard drives with the same mount point  :/
[15:55] <Goliath> usr13: so which of the 2 should i modify?
[15:55] <mosmo> Hello! How can I disable the automatic startup of the GUI with Ubuntu?
[15:55] <jebula> jkbrntot, i have done that several times as well
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> REK_007: are you using RAID?
[15:56] <jkbrntot> alsa-utils is installed already?
[15:56] <jkbrntot> jebula
[15:56] <jebula> jkbrntot yup
[15:56] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: sda1 and sdb5 have the same name and mount point but in reality sda1 is windows drive and sdb5 is the dump drive
[15:56] <usr13> Goliath: And as I have already said, the best thing to do is go into the router's config and insert valid nameserver IP(s) so that it no longer gives out bogus IP info.
[15:56] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: no man normal setup
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> REK_007: 2 partitions on one mount point doesn't sound good
[15:56] <jkbrntot> jebula: what about alsa-base?
[15:57] <jebula> jkbrntot, already installed
[15:57] <jebula> also purged and reinstaleld it
[15:57] <MoonTiger> mosmo, on a desktop?
[15:57] <dr_willis> !text
[15:57] <MoonTiger> or that
[15:57] <MoonTiger> :)
[15:57] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: I dont it how it got configured but I can use the partitions separately . And both are shown with different names on the file browser .
[15:57] <rubenjr> for some reason my laptop wont let me install ubuntu or any other distro. but to make sure i put in a windows xp cd in it and it worked fine. when i put any linux distro it brings me to a login screen and doesnt let me install
[15:57] <jkbrntot> jebula, what is displayed if you type apt-get install alsa-utils now?
[15:57] <mosmo> [16:57] <MoonTiger> mosmo, on a desktop?
[15:57] <mosmo> Yes
[15:58] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, is it a company laptop?
[15:58] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  sounds like bad cd burns, or bad isos - you could verfy theiso and put it on a usb.
[15:58] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: but on the storage device manager i see that peculiar thing about them sharing same name and mount point
[15:58] <jebula> jkbrntot, already installed
[15:58] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: yes a dell
[15:58] <rubenjr> dr_willis: i tried a usb also same thing
[15:58] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, u sure they havent locked it down?
[15:59] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  whats the prompt exactly?  does the live-usb even boot?
[15:59] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  well i mean if they did is there anything i could about it? maybe flash the bios with a different one?
[15:59] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, very risky
[15:59] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  this is a laptop you bought FROM dell? or what exactly?
[15:59] <rubenjr> dr_willis: it goes like as if its about tot ake me to the livecd but then asks me to login
[16:00] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, if they have locked it down u prolly cant flash a new bios ... even if you could they would know and u prolly couldnt access the company network
[16:00] <rubenjr> dr_willis:  its a dell but i got it for free
[16:00] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, i would make a live usb boot and work with that
[16:00] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, ahhhhhh its ur now?
[16:00] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: it wont let me get that far
[16:00] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  could be a video card issue. You could try the 'nomodeset' option, or try the alt-installer cd.
[16:00] <jkbrntot> jebula: see if you have the following apt installed: libao-common, libmikmod2, libao4, linux-sound-base, libsox-fmt-alsa, libasound2-plugins, libsox1b
[16:00] <sveinse> dr_willis: It was not related to saved session, as it happens on a newly created user as well. Nor did reinstall of every package *nautilus* package help
[16:00] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, what exact model is it?
[16:01] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: dell inspiron 1100
[16:01] <dr_willis> sveinse,  bummer...
[16:01] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: yes its mine
[16:01] <rubenjr> dr_willis:  i will try that
[16:01] <mosmo> @dr_willis: I can't seem to enter the GRUB settings on boot, neither with pressing shift nor ESC
[16:01] <mosmo> Is there another way?
[16:01] <sveinse> Does meld work on your machines?
[16:01] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, thats an old assed laptop no?
[16:01] <jebula> jkbrntot, ok?
[16:02] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  yes haha
[16:02] <MoonTiger> mosmo, maybe boot into it and set the manual log on  ... then reboot and change the default session to console ... then reboot
[16:02] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: but as far as i know ubuntu works great with older models
[16:02] <jkbrntot> jebula it's all installed?
[16:02] <jebula> jkbrntot, yes
[16:02] <marekdef> hi guys, If I have 2 activities 1 is using service and is starting other activity
[16:03] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, i would think the usb ports are 1.1 and the cd drive prolly cannot read the discs you are using
[16:03] <marekdef> shall I close the connection to the service before I launch new one ?
[16:03] <MoonTiger> the xp disk will work as its a prpoerly copied mass produced disk
[16:03] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: the cd drive is a dvd rom
[16:03] <jkbrntot> jebula: did you just install some right now, or they were already existing on your system?
[16:03] <MoonTiger> so... burn a new disk and burn it at 1 or 2 times speed
[16:03] <jebula> jkbrntot, some were installed after running apt-get
[16:04] <rubenjr> dr_willis:  what do u mean the alt installer?
[16:04] <dr_willis> mosmo,  ive had quirky desktop systems taht grub would not properly work with a USB keyboard. but would with a PS2 keyvoard..  there  a legacy-usb setting the bios that might fix that.
[16:04] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, it *is* set to boot from dvd yes?
[16:04] <dr_willis> !alternative
[16:04] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: yes i direct it through the boot menu
[16:04] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, ok just checkin
[16:04] <mosmo> dr_willis, I'm trying to manually edit the grub.cfg with nano now
[16:04] <mosmo> Is this a bad idea?
[16:04] <MoonTiger> doesnt ubuntu use grub2?
[16:04] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: it takes a longtime to read and then takes me to a login screen
[16:05] <dr_willis> mosmo,  thats one way.. not a great way.. but a way
[16:05] <dr_willis> MoonTiger,  latest releases default to grub2 yes
[16:05] <MoonTiger> so manually editing the grub.cfg isnt smart as it will get overwritten next time something updates it
[16:05] <sveinse> Can anyone with an updated natty system test if meld is working, please?
[16:05] <mosmo> [17:05] <dr_willis> mosmo,  thats one way.. not a great way.. but a way
[16:06] <mosmo> Okay
[16:06] <mosmo> Do I need to append the "text" after the line beginning with "initrd"?
[16:06] <mosmo> Or the one with "linux"
[16:06] <MoonTiger> mosmo .... you will have to edit one of the /etc/grub.d/files
[16:06] <MoonTiger> i think it's 10 or 20
[16:06] <mosmo> MoonTiget, already in the file
[16:06] <MoonTiger> that will contain the lines you need to edit
[16:06] <zerium1> anyone know which option in compiz it is to scale the left side launcher bar thing?
[16:06] <MoonTiger> then do grub-mkconfig
[16:07] <MoonTiger> and it will check the file
[16:07] <mosmo> Okay, thanks
[16:07] <rubenjr> any recommendations on the install?
[16:07] <MoonTiger> then you can do "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[16:07] <dr_willis> mosmo,  replace 'quiet splash' with 'text'
[16:07] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, very odd .... so no usb boot works (too old) and cant boot from dvd ... is it external dvd?
[16:08] <mosmo> [17:07] <dr_willis> mosmo,  replace 'quiet splash' with 'text'
[16:08] <dr_willis> mosmo,  the proper way is edit the /etc/default/grub then rerun update-grub
[16:08] <mosmo> Okay, thanks
[16:08] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  no internal
[16:08] <jkbrntot> jebula: try rebooting now (to be sure) and see if your sound card is detected...
[16:08] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: but it is a dvd rom
[16:08] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  booting off the usb works the same as the cd
[16:08] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, can it read the ubuntu dvd from windows?
[16:08] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: yes it detects it
[16:08] <mosmo> dr_willis, I see, thanks - I'm trying if it works and then I'll do it the proper way
[16:08] <MoonTiger> and sees the files?
[16:08] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: lets me go in and view all the files on the dvd
[16:09] <MoonTiger> ok
[16:09] <rubenjr> wierd
[16:09] <Kravilanth> @rubenjr I had issues booting from a DVD-ROM on a dell laptop as well. I ended up using a different DVD-ROM and my problem was resolved.
[16:09] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, hmmmmmm i wonder if they have flashed a custom bios .... can u update the bios from windows?
[16:09] <zerium1> is there a way to put a python script in the unity launch bar?
[16:09] <rubenjr> Kravilanth: what happens if this is the only dvd rom i have
[16:09] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  i will try that
[16:10] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  wait i forgot i fomated the hard drive already
[16:10] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  should i put xp and try to flash the bios?
[16:10] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, i have never heard of companies doing custom bios builds but im riunning out of ideas why you have this problem
[16:10] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, so blank hdd and no OS right?
[16:10] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  im not sure either cause i mean like i can try the usb but it does the same thing.
[16:11] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  i had xp on it 20 monites ago but i formatted it and even with xp on it it did the same thing
[16:11] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, exactly what happens when it boots from usb / dvd?
[16:11] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: exactly the same thing
[16:11] <MoonTiger> what login does it take you to?
[16:11] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: takes just as long and brings me to the same login screen
[16:11] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: and i know its not the cd cause i tried it on my sisters computer ad it worked fine
[16:11] <dr_willis> this is the BASH Login screen?
[16:12] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, it isnt set to boot from the network is it?
[16:12] <dr_willis> take hd out. put in usb enclosuer, install to it from a differnt pc. replace it in problem pc. :)  as a work around
[16:12] <MoonTiger> dr_willis, good call
[16:12] <mosmo> dr_willis, Stuff went wrong apparently
[16:12] <rubenjr> wait what
[16:12] <mosmo> After booting and entering GRUB, the screen remains black
[16:13] <mosmo> This isn't a huge problem it's a fresh install anyways
[16:13] <mosmo> Do you know any way out maybe?
[16:13] <rubenjr> dr_willis:  how do i install it form another pc?
[16:13] <sveinse> meld fails because "import gtk" fails. py complains about "_gtk" missing from /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py. But I cannot find that this file belongs to any package! (I'm hoping I'm wrong)
[16:13] <MoonTiger> mosmo, sounds like a problem to me :)
[16:13] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  plug hd into other pc.. boot cd/whatever
[16:13] <mosmo> The monitor means: ANALOG OUT OF RANGE 92 khz / 58 hz
[16:13] <zerium1> can i change the archive manager to automatically extract an archive instead of opening?
[16:13] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, what login screen do you get to after boot? im curious
[16:13] <rubenjr> dr_willis: its a laptop though
[16:13] <dr_willis> mosmo,  that means grub is sending info that the monitor cant handle.
[16:13] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  thats why i mentiooned a usb enclosuer...
[16:14] <karlshea> any ideas on why the exit status of mountpoint would be wrong?
[16:14] <mosmo> I'll boot it up with the live USB and fix the GRUB file
[16:14] <dr_willis> mosmo,  i have to tell grub to use a 640x480 res screen here for this monitor.. heres my grub.cfg
[16:14] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: the normal login screen except the name is ubuntu and i tried t login as ubuntu and enter as password it brings me to the same login screen again
[16:14] <dr_willis> mosmo,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/629869/
[16:14] <rubenjr> dr_willis:  what do u mean by a usb enclosure?
[16:15] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  a box you put a hard drive in, that ciovnerts it into a USB hard drive
[16:15] <mosmo> Thank you
[16:15] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, wait what? i thought you said u cant install anything?
[16:15] <rubenjr> MoonTiger: i cant it doesnt even let me boot up to the live cd. but it lets me install windows xp
[16:15] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  so it IS biooting the ubuntu cd.. and going to the bash prompt. which leads us to either a weird video card, or optical drive issue with reading the cd.
[16:15] <LemonyZ> Evening
[16:15] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  the alternative cd - might work.
[16:15] <rubenjr> dr_willis:  ahh okay and where do i get one of those?
[16:16] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, so you mean the xp login screen?
[16:16] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  the store.  or the internetz
[16:16] <mosmo> Oh look @ dr_willis
[16:16] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  no xp works fine it brings me to the ubuntu login screen right before the live cd
[16:16] <mosmo> I can still access the PC via SSH
[16:16] <dr_willis> mosmo,  that makes it even easier....
[16:16] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, i thought you said u wiped the hdd?
[16:16] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  it is
[16:16] <mosmo> Yes
[16:17] <rudraram> could not update iceauthority/var/lib/gdm/.iceauthority ---- this is killing me :(
[16:17] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, so wtf login screen are you talking about?
[16:17] <jordotech> whats up!  I just used Cntr+z to put a process in the background but its stopped.... how can i view all the stopped processes running?
[16:17] <dr_willis> mosmo,  edit /etc/default/grub and uncomment the 640x480 line, uncomment the 'make a sound beep' line also so you can hear it beep so you know it booted if it dosent work. :) and run update-grub
[16:17] <rubenjr> dr_willis: is there a way to install it with means of no graphics?
[16:17] <MoonTiger> rubenjr, the server edition maybe?
[16:17] <dr_willis> rubenjr,  the alt-cd is a text based installer.. it dosent need a fancy gfx card.
[16:17] <MoonTiger> ahhhhhh or that
[16:18] <rubenjr> dr_willis:  do u know where i can download the alt cd?
[16:18] <sveinse> Anyone here with knowledge to the python modules in natty?
[16:18] <mosmo> Interesting, highly interesting @ dr_willis
[16:18] <dr_willis> !download
[16:18] <mosmo> I had to start XFCE4 over SSH
[16:18] <mosmo> And now the monitor displays again
[16:18] <mosmo> Apparently my monitor doesn't accept text mode
[16:18] <MoonTiger> ok gotta go ... good luck rubenjr :)
[16:18] <mosmo> Do you have an idea why?
[16:18] <rubenjr> MoonTiger:  thanks =]
[16:18] <smftre> when installing postfix, what happens if your hostname -f is set to something that will only be transferred later on? will nothing work?
[16:18] <penquite> Hi all, I am trying to set permissions on my web server and having a few issues. If I type groups to see my group membership I do not see the www-data group which owns my www directory, but if I type members www-data, my username shows in the group. Any suggestions?
[16:19] <dr_willis> mosmo,  sounds like   the framebuffer/plymouth stuff is causing problems  once again.
[16:19] <rudraram> please help me
[16:19] <mosmo> I see, that doesn't tell me much though, not an expert xD
[16:19] <dr_willis> mosmo,  enable the text menu for grub. and  remove the 'quiet splash'  words in the /etc/default/grub
[16:19] <mosmo> I'm using Xubuntu, just by the way
[16:19] <sveinse> meld is trying to import gtk, and it tries /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/cairo/__init__.py, while the python-gtk2 package locates the file at /usr/share/pyshared/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py . I'm confused why it behaves this way. Remnants of maverick perhaps?
[16:19] <mosmo> Do I enable the text menu just by removing quiet splash?
[16:19] <dr_willis> plymouth causes more problems then its worth
[16:20] <mosmo> And what exactly is plymouth
[16:20] <dr_willis> theres a line in the /etc/default/grub that enables  the text grub menu.. check the file
[16:20] <dr_willis> !plymouth
[16:20] <mosmo> I see, okay
[16:20] <rudraram> could not update iceauthority/var/something/.iceauthority ---help
[16:20] <dr_willis> Plymouth = eyecandy added in to make it look more professional...
[16:20] <dr_willis> rudraram,  try moveing/renameing/deleteing that file?
[16:20] <MagicJ> I am getting th message: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". - what do I need to fix?
 ok
[16:21] <sveinse> how can I list all files which does *not* belong to any package?
[16:23] <jtreminio> hello all. My window titlebars have disappeared ... so, how do I restart metacity?
[16:23] <lolzer> im not able to play vedios cause adobe wont install
[16:23] <jtreminio> simply typing "metacity &" does not bring the titlebars back, so I assume I have to stop and the restart it.
[16:23] <lolzer> im using 11.04
[16:23] <lolzer> i actually upgraded it
[16:23] <rubenjr> dr_willis:  could you explain to me how this alt cd works or where i can get it?
[16:24] <RevSpecies116> lolzer - I assume you mean youtube?
[16:24] <dinkdink> lolzer: i use gnash
 no change
 same error
[16:25] <CppIsWeird> how do i get my .gnome2 back?
[16:25] <sveinse> How is /usr/lib/pymodules used in respect of /usr/lib/pyshared ?
[16:25] <antonio_> antonio
[16:26] <shed> pls i need help connectin usb modem to work on ubuntu
[16:27] <mosmo> dr_willis, I did as you said and edited the /default/grub file
[16:27] <mosmo> I do now see something after booting
[16:27] <Gnea> !modem | shed
[16:27] <penquite> anyone know what the difference is between typing groups and id -nG {user-name}
[16:27] <mosmo> However the system hangs at the message "Stopping Userspace bootsplash"
[16:28] <beharbunjaku> Hi! Im using Metacity on Ubuntu 11.04. And sometimes appears  blackspace in my desktop ! How can I make my Metacity work properly ?! please help me !!
[16:28] <lolzer> dinkdink, i downloaded gnash but how to configure firefox to use it.. it still showed missing plugin??
[16:29] <dr_willis> mosmo,  dont forget to run update-grub after editing..
[16:29] <shed> ubottu	, am using a usb 3g broadband
[16:30] <dr_willis> mosmo,  in /etc/default/grub --->    GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480   and   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" is about as low-tech/should alwasy work.. as you can get...
[16:31] <dr_willis> lolzer,  you do realize that gnash is welll.. just not that great. :)
[16:31] <sveinse> Python anyone? My system (natty am,d64) has a populated /usr/lib/pymodules/ dir while it seems no package has any files there, yet my python seems to prefer importing from this directory. Instead these pacakges install under /usr/lib/pyshared. I'm really confused, as it worked yesterday
[16:33] <lolzer> dr_willis, but i have no other option.. after the upgrade.... there seems to be some serious compatibilty problems// i now even have no support for laptop camera
[16:33] <dr_willis> seems the pymodules dirs are just links to the pyshared directory of the proper version      /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7
[16:34] <dr_willis> ie: -> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     36 2011-06-12 03:24 ORBit.so -> /usr/lib/pyshared/python2.7/ORBit.so
[16:34] <Cheery> do you have config for linux version 3.0.0-rc3+ ?
[16:34] <dr_willis> lolzer,  i rarely is ever  Upgrade. i just do clean installs.. much less hassles.
[16:35] <dinkdink> lolzer: sudo aptitude install mozilla-plugin-gnash
[16:35] <Abhijit> how to have a UTC clock on panel ??
[16:35] <dr_willis> what flash sites are you wanting to get going with gnash?
[16:36] <dinkdink> lolzer: did you download and compile the latest gnash
[16:36] <RevSpecies116> shed, are you on Ubuntu 11.04?
[16:36] <lolzer> dinkdink, i just went to the repos and downloaded from there
[16:36] <dinkdink> lolzer: if yes you will have to drop libgnashplugin.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins or put a symbolic link in
[16:36] <root_user_> hello
[16:37] <sveinse> dr_willis: These two dirs are not in sync on my system. E.g. I cannot find ORBit.so in /usr/lib/pymodules
[16:37] <sveinse> I think that is the reason why nautilus is misbehaving as well (since it using python binding)
[16:38] <lolzer> dinkdink, what is the symbolic link.. how to do it??
[16:38] <dr_willis> willis@Cowbuntu:/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7$ ls -l /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ORBit.so
[16:38] <dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2011-06-12 03:24 /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ORBit.so -> /usr/lib/pyshared/python2.7/ORBit.so
[16:38] <dinkdink> lolzer: you may also have to chmod it
[16:38] <sveinse> So. How should this be? Since no package stores under /usr/lib/pymodules, it must be autogenerated, right?
[16:38] <sveinse>  ls -l /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ORBit.so
[16:38] <sveinse> ls: cannot access /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ORBit.so: No such file or directory
[16:39] <dr_willis> you have a  :/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7 ?
[16:39] <sveinse> ls -al /usr/lib/pyshared/python2.7/ORBit.so
[16:39] <var9> fuck i hate HP
[16:39] <RevSpecies116> dinkdink, is that lolzer  's only option? No Repo solution?
[16:39] <sveinse> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 107696 2010-11-15 10:41 /usr/lib/pyshared/python2.7/ORBit.so
[16:39] <oCean> var9: control your language
[16:39] <var9> im pretty sure all these wireless issues are not ubuntu
[16:39] <var9> bah sry
[16:39] <dinkdink> i all ready gave the repo
[16:39] <var9> my baD
[16:39] <dinkdink> mozilla-plugin-gnash
[16:39] <ASKidwai> Hello
[16:40] <ASKidwai> how do I kill something that's running by the terminal?
[16:40] <ASKidwai> sudo killall doesn't work
[16:40] <sveinse> dr_willis: Yes, I have /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7 with *lots* of contents
[16:40] <var9> once a pci express slot isnt getting sufficient power to it; is there a way to fix that?
[16:40] <dr_willis> ASKidwai,  'kill pid'  can be done.
[16:40] <coz_> ASKidwai,   is this an application window?
[16:40] <dr_willis> sveinse,  all those contents are links to stuff in the pyshared dir here.
[16:40] <ASKidwai> dr_willis, I need to specify which application
[16:40] <ASKidwai> coz_, what?
[16:41] <dinkdink> but if he compiles the latest gnash on his own he will have to link to the plugin in the /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so
[16:41] <Cheery> (btw) kill -9 never hesitates when he kills someone
[16:41] <dr_willis> ASKidwai,  ps ax | grep appname and get its pid.. or clairfy what you are doing exactly
[16:41] <ASKidwai> Firefox isn't responding
[16:41] <ASKidwai> I wanna kill it
[16:41] <Randolph`> killall firefox-bin
[16:41] <dr_willis> firefox i think has a name thats not 'firefox' :)
[16:41] <coz_> ASKidwai,    is firefox opened?    in terminal  xkill
[16:41] <dr_willis> xkill and click on a window = one way
[16:42] <dinkdink> or replace that file with the one in the src file or whatever
[16:42] <Cheery> ASKidwai: ps ax | grep firefox
[16:42] <sivakumar> hi to everyone
[16:42] <sveinse> dr_willis: But some content aren't linked, like the ORBit.so example, so something has happened. Do you know how I can regenerate the links?
[16:42] <noah1989> yeahm firefox is called firefox-bin
[16:42] <dr_willis> sveinse,  no idea on remaking the links
[16:42] <sveinse> ok, thanks
[16:42] <ASKidwai> ok
[16:42] <ASKidwai> thanks all
[16:42] <ASKidwai> kthnxbai
[16:43] <Abhijit> how to have a UTC clock on panel ??
[16:43] <Cheery> I liked about the tron legacy style of leeting with unix commands.
[16:43] <sivakumar> i have a problem that while installing visual studio 2008 with wine..it is stopping at middle ....what the problem....please help me
[16:44] <oCean> sivakumar: ask in #winehq
[16:44] <dr_willis> The clock seems to be able to show times ion other timezones.. set up one for the UTC timezone
[16:45] <Abhijit> dr_willis, how? i selected my city and time zone gmt but nothing happens it just shows regular time
[16:45] <dr_willis> Abhijit,  its right ther ein the clock 'time and date settings'
[16:45] <Cheery> could it be possible to get audio fadeout effect when computer closes?
[16:45] <dr_willis> i got a UTC now in the menu...
[16:46] <dr_willis> i select UTC and it now shows UTC in the main clock
[16:46] <RevSpecies116> sivakumar: try in #winehq
[16:46] <Abhijit> dr_willis, i am in lucid there is no any such setting
[16:46] <RevSpecies116> WOW, I was slow that time
[16:47] <RevSpecies116> oCean How does one raise a bug/issue with the Ubuntu Wiki?
[16:47] <dr_willis> I think they got a wiki channel
[16:47] <dr_willis> !wiki
[16:47] <dr_willis> or perhaps not.
[16:47] <dr_willis> !docs
[16:48] <RevSpecies116> It's the Wiki that has the bug/issue - it must have been recently updated - the fav-icon is the default icon, not an Ubuntu specific icon
[16:48] <oCean> RevSpecies116: there is a #ubuntu-doc channel, you might try there
[16:49] <dr_willis> thats the whole bug? the fav-icon? :)
[16:49] <Abhijit> dr_willis, i selected the location perfectly but it just selects the location its still not affecting the change of time to UTC. also is UTC=GMT am i right? becuaes there is only option gmt and not utc
[16:49] <tsimpson> RevSpecies116: that's known, there's a wiki update in progress
[16:49] <RevSpecies116> the fav-icon, yep
[16:49] <dr_willis> UTC=GMT  as far as i know
[16:49] <RevSpecies116> Not an Ubuntu graphic, and it was before
[16:49] <Abhijit> dr_willis, okay
[16:49] <RevSpecies116> Now it is some M in a globe
[16:50]  * jiltdil loving firefox5 its best till date
[16:50] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, thanks tsimpson
[16:51] <dinkdink> wow that was really very weird.. i was watching youtube and my plugin went from 1.3 megs to 0 bytes
[16:51] <dinkdink> and all my firefox settings are deleted
[16:52] <jiltdil> bad luck to you :(
[16:52] <zhaopengcheng_> hi
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> dinkdink: no worries, restore from backup or recreate your settinsg
[16:54] <dinkdink> this is so freaky.. the plugin backup is missing
[16:54] <stephenh> hello. i see in my loader my append options have a few that are unset, like "pkgsel/language-pack-patterns=" and "lang=", is it safe to omit these or are they upsetting options and i should leave them?
[16:56] <mark_scz> should i be able to do apt-get install notify-send in 11.04
[16:56] <V7|RTK> !info news
[16:57] <Abhijit_> no luck for utc clock please help
[16:57] <V7|RTK> !news
[16:57] <dinkdink> no, no worries i found it.. shweew
[16:58] <axilla-> where do i put plugins for gvim in ubuntu 10.10?
[16:58] <MagicJ> what is the channel for open office help?
[16:59] <quixotep> I am new to ubuntu. i am trying to play itunes music from my mac share on my rythmbox. nothing is showing up.
[16:59] <oCean> MagicJ: there is #openoffice.org and #libreoffice
[17:00] <quixotep> i have pointed rythmbox to the mac where itunes library is via ip addr and port 3689, but no songs show up.  any ideas?
[17:01] <RevSpecies116> Can you confirm you can see the share from within Ubuntu, quixotep
[17:01] <Fr4gg0r> can someone help me creating an ignore pattern for meld? =/
[17:01] <Fr4gg0r> I want it to ignore lines that contain ".line"
[17:06] <irwiss> Hey there, I have an intel fake raid controller and a failed drive. Does it make sense for dmraid -r to show one line? is there a way to see the reason for the second HDD(which i know for certain has issues via smart) not listed? or force it to re-detect the stuff?
[17:08] <qwerty121_> Hello all! I am using XAMPP for linux. PHP's mail function isn't working for me. Didn't change any config file that may have connection with it. Am I missing something? [Sorry, if it's not the right place to ask the question.]
[17:09] <ikonia> qwerty121_: xammp is not an ubuntu supported application, as it is self conained platform.
[17:09] <ikonia> !lamp | qwerty121_
[17:09] <bhavesh> By mistake anyone who program or knows about LWUIT in Java ME?
[17:09] <rubenjr> dr_willis: so im installing the older verson and its working fine
[17:09] <ikonia> !xammp | qwerty121_
[17:10] <bhavesh> does someone program in Java ME?
[17:10] <ikonia> bhavesh: try ##java
[17:10] <bhavesh> ikonia: invite only chanel?
[17:10] <qwerty121_> ikonia: hmm. thanks. was wondering if anyone uses it and can help me.
[17:10] <bhavesh> channel
[17:10] <ikonia> bhavesh: register your nick
[17:10] <ikonia> qwerty121_: no, we don't support it
[17:10] <quixotep> can anyone help me with rythmbox and itunes compatibility?
[17:11] <ikonia> quixotep: in what respect ?
[17:11] <bhavesh> ikonia: ok
[17:11] <quixotep> i cannot see my itunes library on my rythmbox session.  itunes sharing is on
[17:11] <brainsoft> please help! ive deleted a file doing cp file1 file2 and i need to recover file2 what can I do?
[17:12] <RevSpecies116> brainsoft: I'm not sure there is recovery from that error :(
[17:13] <hashtags> hi there! big beginner to ubuntu. I'm looking to install apache but noticed after installing it via terminal that it can be done via interface. how do I undo "sudo apt-get install apache2" ???
[17:13] <ikonia> hashtags: you can remove apache 2 by the gui
[17:13] <hashtags> ikonia: ok is it just as simple as removing the folder?
[17:13] <ikonia> hashtags: open the package manager, search for apache2 and hit "remove" or mark for removal, then remove
[17:13] <quixotep> ikonia:  i cannot see my itunes library on my rythmbox session.  itunes sharing is on
[17:13] <RevSpecies116> unless from a different repo, ikonia
[17:14] <ikonia> hashtags: no, you use the package manager
[17:14] <ikonia> RevSpecies116: no, even then you can do it, the package manager manages all repos
[17:14] <ikonia> quixotep: is it supposed to support that, I didn't think it could do that
[17:15] <hashtags> ikonia: thanks! that helped alot :)
[17:15] <ikonia> welcome
[17:16] <quixotep> ikonia:  oh, i didn't realize that.  I am new to ubuntu and all my music is on itunes.  any way for rythmbox to play it?  any other ubuntu music players compatible with itunes?
[17:16] <ikonia> quixotep: I don't think you can play it from within itunes,
[17:18] <smftre> having a really odd one here, I removed sendmail and installed postfix, then got an error because postfix was still running, so "kill"ed it, and restarted postfix, but now when I do "mailx" I get no errors and nothing gets sent either! any ideas on this? wtf!
[17:18] <RevSpecies116> Wonder if Banshee can do it
[17:18] <abstrakt> how do I determine what timezone my server thinks it lives in?
[17:18] <abstrakt> and how do I determine whether the server thinks the internal clock is set to GMT or not?
[17:18] <abstrakt> it seems like this server thinks it's on GTM, which would suggest that the internal clock is in fact set to GMT but the system timezone hasn't been set yet
[17:19] <abstrakt> although, to be truthful i don't actually know the physical location of the server
[17:19] <sipior> quixotep: unfortunately, apple has ensured that other players won't connect to an itunes daap export. you can copy your music folder to a linux box, or simply export the volume from the mac via nfs (that might be a bit clunky, though)
[17:19] <abstrakt> ok, nevermind, it's in texas :)
[17:19] <abstrakt> so i know that much, now how do I determine A) whether the hardware clock is set to GMT and also B) what timezone the server *thinks* its in
[17:20] <RevSpecies116> Seems the DAAP plugin needs to be enabled in Rhythmbox
[17:20] <RevSpecies116> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442460 <-- from 2007
[17:20] <quixotep> ikonia:  i read something about DAAP share that is supported by rythmbox and is utilized by itunes.  do you know anything about that?\
[17:20] <sipior> RevSpecies116: even so, it won't connect to an itunes share (post version 7 or so)
[17:21] <sipior> RevSpecies116: there was much chest-beating about the matter at the time :-)
[17:21] <ikonia> quixotep: as I said, I didn't think it was possible
[17:22] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, a downgrade to itunes 7 is in order then, quixotep - I'm not sure Steve Jobs would allow that though :(
[17:22] <sipior> yes, good luck finding it if you don't already have it
[17:22] <quixotep> ikonia:  ok, thanks for your time.  I appreciate the help.
[17:23] <Mandrew> anyone here that have tried the prog cli companion?
[17:24] <MadRobot> Hi all.
[17:24] <MadRobot> Anyone here uses Pyroom?
[17:24] <MadRobot> I get a "segmentation fault" error when I try to run it for some reason.
[17:24] <boldfilter> if you burned out your sound card on your motherboard, could you mess up other things like acpi for example
[17:25] <sipior> boldfilter: how exactly did you burn out your sound card?
[17:25] <boldfilter> well, it cuts out and in, and then i have macosx and it relies heavily on acpi, and my acpi sceen dosnt show when i boot
[17:26] <Lee_Sharp> join #ubuntu-za
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> MadRobot: did you get it via ppa?
[17:27] <boldfilter> intel g33 chipset
[17:27] <MadRobot> ActionParsnip: No. I got the tarball.
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> MadRobot: the package was built only 116 weeks ago (more than 2 years)
[17:27] <hashtags> I can't click Apply after marking apache2.2-common for Complete Removal, any ideas?
[17:27] <MadRobot> ActionParsnip: I know.
[17:27] <blz> hashtags:  this is why the cli is usually best.  use apt-get remove --purge
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> MadRobot: not sure then , are there any bugs reported etc?
[17:28] <MadRobot> ActionParsnip: No. There doesn't seem to be anything of that sort.
[17:28] <dinkdink> alright something freaky is going on with my software i just got rick rolled using youtube
[17:28] <hashtags> blz: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) I guess I should try rebooting? ><
[17:29] <MadRobot> ActionParsnip: It used to run flawlessly a couple months ago.
[17:29] <blz> hashtags, no.  you're probably already updating/installing something
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> MadRobot: hmm, if you run it from terminal, do you get output (or does it always get ran in terminal)
[17:29] <blz> hashtags,  wait for it to finish or kill the offending process
[17:29] <MadRobot> ActionParsnip: Noting. I only get "Segmentation fault".
[17:29] <blz> hashtags, you can only do one thing at a time with your package database
[17:30] <hashtags> blz: must be a hickup then, cause I dont have anything going on, will try to find the process
[17:30] <MadRobot> ActionParsnip: If I try to open it from the GUI, I get "Could not open /usr/bin/pyroom".
[17:31] <blz> hashtags, I see.  yet another reason to stick to the cli.  It's probably a leftover lock from an earlier time you used the grahpical package manager.  you can go ahead and do a soft reboot
[17:31] <hashtags> blz: all my processes are sleeping except for the system monitor so I will indeed try a reboot, thanks brb :)
[17:31] <blz> hashtags, np. see you in a few
[17:34] <MadRobot> ActionParsnip: It's really sad that they abandonded it. It's very useful for eleminating distractions during my writing session.. :-(
[17:34] <econdudeawesome> newb question--how do I see what hard drives the computer detects?
[17:34] <miguel> hi guys
[17:36] <Guest98907> how do you change the top task bar which has the time ,batttery status ect to black ? as i installed my GPU driver and restarted n it does go black but thengoes white again ?
[17:36] <hashtags_> things are worked better now :-)
[17:36] <econdudeawesome> nm
[17:36] <econdudeawesome> mount does it
[17:37] <Guest98907> anyone?
[17:37] <dr_willis> Guest98907,  i think that may be a video driver bug.
[17:37] <Guest98907> as its enabled and everything
[17:37] <cannonball> I
[17:38] <dr_willis> mine is a dark grey here. :) but it may depend on the theme you pick
[17:38] <cannonball> I've been looking but haven't been able to find it.  Is there a way to get regular vertical scroll bars back instead of the weird floating updown thing that you can grab with your mouse?
[17:38] <Guest98907> i tried different themes but nothing
[17:39] <Guest98907> its weird coz when i rebooted it goes black but then changes to white again :(
[17:40] <Trashi> cannonball: think that new scrollbar comes with some packages .. look for overlay-scrollbar and liboverlay-scrollbar-0.1-0
[17:42] <shp> hi
[17:42] <user_> the VPN connection *** failed because the VPN service failed to start..  Any advice?
[17:42] <shp> I'd like my computer to always execute "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/disk" at startup, how can i do please?
[17:43] <jkbrntot> @user_ : start VPN service
[17:43] <jkbrntot> shp: doesnt ubuntu automatically mount connected devices?
[17:43] <dr_willis> Guest98907,  check out ->   http://askubuntu.com/search?q=unity+panel+color+change
[17:43] <mgolisch> shp: you should just add this to your fstab
[17:43] <Trashi> shp: ubuntu does automaticly mount that
[17:43] <dr_willis> jkbrntot,  it auto mounts them on access for the most part.
[17:43] <mgolisch> if you want it mounted on system startup
[17:44] <dr_willis> !fstab
[17:44] <dr_willis> shp,  put a proper entry in the fstab file
[17:45] <ashmew2> Hi , im trying to install Ubuntu on my desktop system which doesnt have a CD ROM or a bootable USB port , but it supports PXE , any help regarding that ? I'm following instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto but i cant seem to figure out the Installing on NFS drive part. Thanks,
[17:45] <g0rd0n> what are the contents of sources.list for ubuntu natty server? someone installed the normal natty and i would like to change that
[17:45] <mark_scz> How can i get the notify-send command?
[17:46] <trism> mark_scz: install libnotify-bin
[17:46] <Pici> g0rd0n: Server and Desktop user the same repositories.
[17:46] <tonyyarusso> g0rd0n: They are identical.  There is no difference between desktop and server in that respect.
[17:46] <ashmew2> g0rd0n, by normal natty you mean the Gnome Natty and you want the Unity enabled Nattyy instead ?
[17:46] <shp> thanks dr_willis
[17:46] <ashmew2> g0rd0n, OMG ignore. Misread you.
[17:46] <g0rd0n> oh ok thank you
[17:46] <g0rd0n> hehe
[17:46] <g0rd0n> but i still have one big roblem, something with locales is broken. not even dpkg-reconfigure locales works
[17:47] <zaksoldier> Hi / every one
[17:47] <zaksoldier> !hi
[17:47] <g0rd0n> see here: http://pastebin.com/BPqKaA0c
[17:49] <maalac> hi
[17:49] <user_> the VPN connection *** failed because the VPN service failed to start..  Any advice?
[17:49] <maalac> need some help in running ica files on ubuntu 10.10?
[17:50] <maalac> citrix recieve is running my active key is working i was able to connect OMC net. i have existing ICA files. How do i make it work on the Citrix recieve ?
[17:52] <g0rd0n> status: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[17:52] <g0rd0n> i hate upstart
[17:52] <dr_willis> ive rarely had issues with upstart
[17:53] <jkbrntot> zaksoldier what's up?
[17:53] <ubuntu__> test ubuntu 11.04
[17:53] <maalac> citrix reciever ? anybody can help with this please ..
[17:54] <banditti> wOOt
[17:54] <ubuntu__> out
[17:55] <duckx0r> I'm trying to use parts of my home directory on another computer, so I added a sshfs mount and symlinked various folders in my local home folder to the ones on the remote folder. It works perfectly for Thunderbird and Opera, however when I open Pidgin, it has all my accounts added, but for some reason it says it's waiting for a network connection. Any ideas how I can debug this?
[17:57] <pRoV7x>  hello there
[17:57] <dr_willis> the sshfs commands may have some 'verbose output' options
[17:58] <dr_willis> duckx0r,   if you are not using the sshfs then pidgin connects quickly?
[17:58] <pRoV7x>  any tricks that makes ubuntu super fast
[17:58] <duckx0r> dr_willis, yes.
[17:58] <dr_willis> pidgin may have some verbose outpuit if ran from a terminal options also.
[17:59] <dr_willis> I never use pidgin.
[17:59] <duckx0r> dr_willis, i'll try that
[17:59] <dr_willis> 'run from a terminal look at output' - trouble shooting  tool #1   :)
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> pidgin kicks ass
[17:59] <dr_willis> Im anti-social networking.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: not used it using shared folder via ssh, could always use X forwarding and just run pidgin in the remote terminal
[18:00] <shp> i'm looking for the equivalent of AppData folder (windows) in ubuntu ? for instance i'd like to know where is my mumble folder datas
[18:00] <dr_willis> The whole 'social-connected-desktop' thing seems to be getting downlplayed  now. :)
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: could also use something like dropbox to sync settings between systems, may be better
[18:01] <Psydoll> exit
[18:01] <dr_willis> shp,  the apps could put them anywhere..  most likely one of the various .XXXX dirs in your home. try somthing like ' ls -R | grep mumble'
[18:01] <dr_willis> oh wait a -a may be needed...
[18:01] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, X forwarding will be my second option I think
[18:01] <dr_willis> ls -aR | grep mumble
[18:02] <shp> dr_willis,
[18:02] <shp> shp@ubuntu:~$ ls -a -R | grep mumble
[18:02] <shp> .mumble.sqlite
[18:02] <dr_willis> !info mumble
[18:02] <dr_willis> Never used it. or heard of it..  that may be its config file then.
[18:02] <shp> dr_willis, does not tell me where is this file ?
[18:02] <dr_willis> that was where its at....
[18:02] <dr_willis>  in your home dir.. :)
[18:02] <shp> (i do'nt see any .mumble.sqlite when i do ls -a=
[18:03] <preecher> ActionParsnip speaking of pidgin--can i remove empathy without messing up other stuff & use pidgin? i prefer pidgin myself but currently keep empathy installed because i didnt know if it would screw up other things if i removed it
[18:03] <dr_willis> look above the line perhaps.
[18:03] <shp> i had -R option in the find command
[18:03] <Pici> shp: find ~/ -iname "*mumble*"
[18:03] <dr_willis> find is handy also.
[18:03] <dr_willis> locate may also work
[18:03] <shp> works Pici
[18:04] <shp> thx
[18:04] <ntr0py> Is it possible to use Compiz with Natty?
[18:04] <dr_willis> i need to figure out how to setup a 'locate just in the users home dir'  setup.
[18:05] <dr_willis> ntr0py,  compiz is standard in ubuntu for the last 4+ releases i think.
[18:05] <dr_willis> ntr0py,  its included in Natty.
[18:05] <dr_willis> ntr0py,  you need your 3d drivers working properly first.
[18:06] <shp> isn't there a way to share Application Datas with Windows and Ubuntu?
[18:06] <ntr0py> Yes but its very unstable in Natty... I cant use Compiz control center because it always crashes...
[18:06] <dr_willis> shp,  it would depend on the app. ive done so with xchat in the past.
[18:06] <shp> i created symbolic links but developpers renamed mumble.sqlite into .mumble.sqlite so it does not match
[18:06] <dr_willis> ntr0py,  ive had more issues with Unity then i have compiz. there are some guides on using the older compiz in natty.
[18:06] <ntr0py> All i get is "unity-window-de[1653]: segfault at ffffffff ip 00007f344fb5e2b6 sp 00007fff26b09e50 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2800.6[7f344fafe000+ed000]"
[18:06] <shp> i've done it with xchat and it works fine but for mumble not the same file names
[18:06] <shp> developpers sux
[18:07] <penlat_> how do you install flash for miro 4? I already have it installed for firefox
[18:07] <dr_willis> penlat_,  how did you install it for Firefox?
[18:07] <ntr0py> dr_willis: do you know any ppa's where a stable Xorg is included?
[18:07] <nafta> I know this is not a webhosting channel, but I wanted to ask if there is a way to start a hosting company (billing system, control panel for client and for administrator) with open source software? I've read, I've googled..and I did find virtualmin but I don't know the diference between virtualmin and webmin...I want to be able to sell shared hosting and reseller accounts for my clients, and manage all this thru a billing system..is this pos
[18:08] <dr_willis> ntr0py,  theres a few xorg ppa's but i never use them
[18:08] <penlat_> dr_willis, I downloaded the deb from adobe
[18:08] <sipior> nafta: as you said, this isn't a webhosting channel.
[18:08] <dr_willis> penlat_,  you sould instasll it from the package manager.. not downloading from adobe.
[18:08] <nafta> cool, I just hope I could find a fellow hoster around :D
[18:08] <nafta> thanks anyways.
[18:08] <Pici> nafta: Theres, #web, #ubuntu-offtopic, even #freenode might be able to suggest a better channel
[18:08] <penlat_> ok
[18:08] <ntr0py> dr_willis: well i also would like to use the one shipped with natty, but its simply too buggy for use
[18:09] <blizzow1> holy fuck what a piece of unreliable garbage pulseaudio has become.
[18:09] <blizzow1> grrrrr.
[18:09] <IdleOne> !language | blizzow1
[18:09] <nafta> oh..#web..nice I tried #webhosting and #webhost with no louck, gonna try those
[18:09] <nafta> thanks
[18:09] <llutz> !alis  | nafta
[18:09] <Castatroy> what command can i use to get the linux distro and version
[18:09] <nafta> really helpful folks..thanks!
[18:10] <IdleOne> Castatroy: lsb_release -a and uname -a
[18:10] <penlat_> dr_willis, flash still doesnt work in miro
[18:11] <dr_willis> penlat_,  its possible the deb you downloaded messed things up. its hard to tell.   let me check miro here.
[18:11] <dr_willis> !info miro
[18:11] <penlat_> ok
[18:14] <Castatroy> IdleOne: thanks
[18:14] <penlat_> dr_willis, reinstalled miro. same result
[18:15] <lafon> hello
[18:15] <dr_willis> reinstalling to 'fix' things - is windows thinking. :)
[18:15] <dr_willis> miro downloading a video now....
[18:15] <dr_willis> i should of picked a smaller video podcast. :)
[18:16] <Ahtenus> Does anyone know any good image viewer that can view photos chronologically?
[18:16] <Beret> what can I remove in my home directory to have unity give itself a fresh start upon login?
[18:16] <Beret> unit --reset is failing miserably
[18:16] <Beret> unity rather
[18:16] <penlat_> dr_willis, can you access youtube and hulu through miro
[18:16] <classico> hello people, i want to install 3 linuxes on my netbook, but i'm having troubles finding the best way to partition all that
[18:17] <sipior> Ahtenus: i'm fairly certain f-stop can do that, but haven't verified it myself.
[18:17] <classico> i heard i should create sda1 as the swap partition, i hear i should create an extended partition with a logical swap...
[18:18] <dr_willis> penlat_,  i cant even see where thats at heh...
[18:18] <soultekkie> does anyone have the updated(maverick) ambiance/radiance themes in lucid? the repositories went dead
[18:19] <penlat_> dr_willis on the left hand side
[18:19] <mark__> ls
[18:19] <ZykoticK9> classico, sharing 1 swap between all installs is a good idea, FYI sharing a home directory might not work out (due to different versions of the same software) YMMV
[18:19] <Abhijit> no luck for utc clock please help
[18:19] <Abhijit> how to add utc clock to panel?
[18:19] <llutz> classico: only linux on that netbook? then use all logical drives, 1 swap, 3 linux-/ and 1 big data-partition to be shared
[18:19] <Ahtenus> sipior, Ok, I'll try it
[18:20] <dr_willis> penlat_,  no hulu there by default. :) i had to add it via the menus
[18:20] <dr_willis> dosent like flash. so thats a fail it seems
[18:20] <penlat_> dr_willis, its there on mine by default
[18:21] <dr_willis> i just installed miro 2 min ago. wasent there for me.
[18:21] <robot_jesus> hey whats the name of that quick launch app for ubuntu where I start typing the program name and it auto completes it and executes it ?
[18:22] <ZykoticK9> robot_jesus, are you thinking of gnome-do?  (MONO alert!)
[18:22] <dr_willis> penlat_,  inetersting message in the terminal -->   ERROR: Invalid browser function table. Some functionality may be restricted.
[18:22] <Randolph`> synapse also does that robot_jesus
[18:22] <go7enks> hello guys! Need help on a quick question
[18:22] <lafon> is calibre a redundant program?
[18:22] <go7enks> related to installing ubuntu on dual boot
[18:22] <dr_willis> !info calibre
[18:23] <penlat_> dr_willis, i guess it wont work then
[18:23] <thegladiator> ubuntu-offtopic
[18:23] <lafon> what i mean is that synaptic states it as needing autoremove
[18:24] <dr_willis> penlat_,  it may be possible to put the flash plugin in some .miro dir. i was thinking it was based on firefox.. or am i thinking of 'songbird'  or perhaps both are...
[18:24] <go7enks> I have Windows 7 installed on my Laptop and there are 3 partitions: SDA 1 some recovery partition of 15 gb; SDA 2 Win 7 loader 105 mb and SDA 3 main partition of 480+ gb
[18:24] <go7enks> can I just change the size of SDA 3 during the installation?
[18:24] <go7enks> withotu losing any data?
[18:25] <dr_willis> penlat_,  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=miro+flash     dosent look good.
[18:25] <penlat_> dr_willis, hmmm, i have to find what folder to put plugin
[18:25] <wols_> go7enks: theoretically yes, in practive you always need backups. and you need to create an extended partition
[18:25] <Avenger101> @go7enks:i think no
[18:25] <wols_> go7enks: resizing a partition without backups is always risky
[18:26] <go7enks> well I backed up, actually, there's nothing on my laptop that I might use and I created a recovery disk
[18:26] <wols_> then go for it :)
[18:26] <go7enks> would it be less risky if I did it via Win 7 partition manager?
[18:26] <go7enks> or it's the same?
[18:26] <wols_> you can also, if you want, get the latest gparted live cd, and resize partitions with that
[18:26] <wols_> same risk basically
[18:26] <g0rd0n> i have this problem with locales: http://pastebin.com/aMY9pGZG how can i fix it?
[18:27] <dinkdink> gparted works wonders on resizing ntfs
[18:27] <Avenger101> Use partitionmanager
[18:27] <wols_> and I'd rather use a live cd which isn't running off that partition you are resizing.
[18:27] <go7enks> so gparted is basically my safest choice
[18:27] <wols_> g0rd0n: tried dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[18:27] <go7enks> via gparted live cd or usb
[18:28] <go7enks> right
[18:28] <go7enks> ?
[18:28] <wols_> imho yes
[18:28] <g0rd0n> wols_: read the paste... thats the response to the command
[18:28] <g0rd0n> i dont even get the possibility to change the locales
[18:28] <g0rd0n> just get those errors and thrown back to console
[18:28] <go7enks> ok, i'll try that, if I have other questions I'll come back :p
[18:28] <go7enks> thanks
[18:28] <dr_willis> I find windows 7 resizes ntfs faster then gparted does..  but that dosent do much good if you dont have windows7 :)
[18:29] <wols_> g0rd0n: set every LC variable to "C"
[18:29] <wols_> e.g. export LANG=C
[18:29] <wols_> then try again
[18:29] <g0rd0n> wols_: now i dont get those errors anymore, but nothing happens... i press enter and i am back to console prompt
[18:30] <CestSebastian> hi, is there a svn command to find the url of the svn repo for the local working copy?
[18:30] <wols_> dr_willis: I don't care about speed. I care about my data and the time needed to restore if it goes tits up. so I rather use a PE or live cd to mangle it than run from the partition I am mangling
[18:30] <tomacco> untu
[18:30] <wols_> g0rd0n: you need to read more carefully: there is no error
[18:31] <g0rd0n> wols_: but how do i install new locales then? i thought dpkg-reconfigure locales was the way to go
[18:31] <dr_willis> !locale
[18:31] <dr_willis> I normally remove locals :)
[18:31] <classico> ok so I make 1 primary partition for swap, then one extended partition with all my linuxes (each one in a logical partition), and one big primary data partition (ext4?)
[18:31] <wols_> g0rd0n: it normally is. what is your debconf setting?
[18:31] <dr_willis> classico,  they can all be logicals in an extended if you wanted to
[18:32] <eiriksvin> does anyone know of a great eq with a nice gui? I'm trying to jam some sick bassnectar and I want to be able to mix my subs in and have a graphical gui eq
[18:32] <go7enks> sorry guys, another question. if I'm installing ubuntu via live cd, having booted with it, it's safe to resize directly during installation? or it's the same thing we were discussing before?
[18:32] <dinkdink> classico: multiple.. linuxes.. ?
[18:32]  * dr_willis reads eiriksvin 's question 3 times to figure out what hes asking for,,,
[18:33] <wols_> go7enks: it uses the same programs as gparted, yes
[18:33] <dr_willis> !dj
[18:33] <classico> oh the logical think does not change the performances?
[18:33] <wols_> classico: no
[18:33] <rumpe1> go7enks, it's never "safe" to modify partitions... do backup
[18:33] <classico> think=thing
[18:33] <dr_willis> classico,  it shouldent.
[18:33] <dinkdink> classico: if memory serves you can have up to 4 primary partitions
[18:33] <classico> ok thanks guys
[18:33] <eiriksvin> I need a gui eq so I can change my bass/mid/treble
[18:34] <dr_willis> 4 primary max. ONE of which can be a Extended.. holding a large # of logicals
[18:34] <llutz> classico: there is no practical difference between logical/primary
[18:34] <classico> i spent hours yesterday researching that stuff
[18:34] <classico> especially in the ubuntu documentation, haven't found what you just said
[18:34] <dr_willis> eiriksvin,  ive seen Pulse Audio Sound Equilizers. but it was some unofficial app. not in the default repos. I must have seen it mentioned once at the omgubuntu, or webupd8 web site.
[18:35] <classico> is it easy to update the ubuntu documentation or to just add a note or something?
[18:35] <dinkdink> eiriksvin: i think alsa does that
[18:35] <runicfox> After upgrading to Natty, I noticed in my terminal (bash) that spaces (and special characters) are not being escaped.  DAE have this problem?
[18:35] <runicfox> To clarify, I mean when Tabbing to autocomplete a filename.
[18:36] <dr_willis> eiriksvin,   perhaps --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[18:37] <Avenger101> Guys, i need a video converter that can change video size. can anyone help?
[18:37] <dr_willis> eiriksvin,  and   http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/pulseaudio-system-wide-equalizer-now.html
[18:37] <dr_willis> Avenger101,  winff, or ffmpeg or mencoder.
[18:37] <llutz> Avenger101: mencoder, ffmpeg,
[18:37] <llutz> grr
[18:38] <dr_willis> winff - gui to  ffmpeg.  very easy to use. :)
[18:39] <Avenger101> Dr_willis: thanx bro, i'll try
[18:40] <dr_willis> the ffmpeg homepage has some presets that are not in the normal repo installed version also.. good for android users.
[18:42]  * chalcedony smiles
[18:42] <lafon> how do i install a game when disk is marked as read-only without exe permission
[18:43] <wols_> you copy over the files to some palce that can exec. or you remount
[18:43] <chalcedony> my ubuntu 11.04 desktop won't boot after i did update & upgrade. it's just sitting there.
[18:43] <lafon> remount?
[18:43] <ZykoticK9> lafon, are you talking wine?  if so you can start the install from cli - cd to the CD then run "wine PROGRAM.exe"
[18:43] <classico> if i use a big logical partition for data, how much is necessary for the "linux" partition? (the one with the system). i'm not a gamer nor a user of very heavy softwares
[18:44] <sarkis> hey guys, is there a way to modify preferences for workspaces in 11.04? i can't find it
[18:44] <dinkdink> chalcedony: sudo service gdm stop
[18:44] <dinkdink> chalcedony: sudo service gdm start
[18:45] <chalcedony> dinkdink, if i had a command prompt?
[18:45] <foobarbecue> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu Natty with plain Gnome 2. I'd like to be able to switch to a specified window by typing the name of that window (after some key combination). Can someone recommend software to do this?
[18:45] <classico> sarkis, have you installed ubuntu-tweak?
[18:45] <dinkdink> chalcedony: alt+ctrl+f3
[18:45] <lafon> thanks ZykoticK9
[18:45] <Arney> Hello, Anyone having firefox search redirected to their ISP?
[18:45] <Arney> This doesn't happen in chrome or windows.
[18:45] <Arney> I tried changing my dns to 8.8.8.8
[18:45] <chalcedony> dinkdink, the chip fan spins. i don't think it's seeing the keyboard at all
[18:45] <Arney> It still does it.
[18:46] <Abhijit> how to get urc clock ?
[18:46] <sarkis> classico: i have to install that to tweak it??? theres no default solution to modifying workspaces??
[18:46] <dinkdink> chalcedony: the system does not boot.. i thought you meant just the gui
[18:46] <user_> who can help me?
[18:47] <chalcedony> dinkdink, i wish . no the system isn't
[18:47] <Cryp71c> So is there some easy way to see where "make install" installs to? I tried -n but its mostly indecipherable bash code. I manuall installed glib and that manual installation is now the "default" and is messing up essentially ever application which uses it.
[18:47] <Abhijit> user_, ask
[18:47] <classico> sarkis, that's a major issue with unity, not easy to tweak, that's why ubuntu-tweak (or tweak ubuntu, i'm not sure) was designed
[18:47] <lafon> @user: with what?
[18:47] <classico> it's fairly common to install
[18:47] <dinkdink> chalcedony: did you monitor the upgrade to see it complete or lose power during
[18:47] <tarzq> any body can help me to tweak my dial-up modem?
[18:47] <user_> with gdm in Ubuntu 11.047
[18:47] <user_> with gdm in Ubuntu 11.04
[18:48] <iamaham> Greetings
[18:48] <Pici> !ask | user_
[18:48] <lafon> @tarzq: I only have experience with conexant
[18:48] <classico> user_ if you are not more specific, they won't be able to help you. help them to help you, and help the others waiting for an answer :)
[18:48] <iamaham> is there an automated diagnostic tool for testing bandwidth capabilities? basically a program I can run hourly to speakeasy.net or something
[18:48] <chalcedony> dinkdink, i was here, it didn't lose power, the only less than usual thing (but it's been happening a while) is an error not being able to find a skype file.
[18:49] <dinkdink> chalcedony: when it upgraded was there a kernel upgrade
[18:49] <chalcedony> dinkdink, i did upgrade manually after that
[18:49] <chalcedony> dinkdink, i'm not sure
[18:49] <Castatroy> pls how do i enable vlan on an interface
[18:49] <dinkdink> chalcedony: hm can you sh in somehow
[18:49] <Castatroy> lets say i want to add vlan 170
[18:49] <Castatroy> to eth0
[18:50] <chalcedony> dinkdink, how about if i try restarting with the older kernel?
[18:50] <dinkdink> chalcedony: if you can get a look at the system i would check the kernel, see if there is more than one
[18:50] <szal> dinkdink: afaik, there hasn't been a kernel update for Natty yet
[18:51] <chalcedony> dinkdink, it usually gives me a list, command hit enter ...
[18:51] <PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWP> anyone have the same issue as me? My eeepec wont shutdown since i installed the latest version of ubuntu
[18:51] <dinkdink> szal: there was if when i was i had beta
[18:51] <dinkdink> szal: sorry.. watching youtube. hehe
[18:52] <dinkdink> szal: what i meant to say was there was a kernel upgrade when i used natty before it was a release
[18:52] <szal> dinkdink: that's another pair of shoes ;)
[18:52] <chalcedony> dinkdink,  2.6.32-30 older one is 2.6.32-28
[18:52] <szal> chalcedony: that is certainly not Natty, that is more likely to be Lucid
[18:52] <jf__> hello,i have a strange problem in ubuntu 11.04 x64: flash player freeze every 5 sec for 10 sec or more.if i enable desktop effects working ok
[18:53] <dinkdink> szal: do we know that he didn't upgrade from beta to release?
[18:53] <szal> dinkdink: read above, now we know :P
[18:53] <chalcedony> szal, 11.04 right?
[18:53] <szal> chalcedony: 10.04
[18:54] <ghostpadza> join #shadowsec
[18:54] <chalcedony> szal, when i first rebooted it was the pink-purple theme. terrifying to think it's booting into my old drive, and not using the correct one with 11.04?!!!
[18:54] <Castatroy> "could not open /proc/net/vlan/config" please how do i add 8021q module permanently to my system
[18:56] <dinkdink> chalcedony: is there a symbolic link though.. might be linked to a kernel image that is no longer there due to a upgrade.. just because u have a kernel in there does not tell me whether or not the upgrade updated the kernel.. i mean i'm just giving you a place to investigate
[18:56] <chalcedony> szal, dinkdink if it did update/upgrade on my current drive and then failed.. ?
[18:56] <spyzer> hello everyone, i am trying to use ndiswrapper to use rtl8192se driver but when i load the corresponding inf, it tells it cannot find an interface please help
[18:56] <spyzer> please
[18:56] <spyzer> please
[18:56] <FloodBot1> spyzer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:57] <spyzer> i also have the ndisbug report
[18:57] <chalcedony> dinkdink, szal i'm an adult with disabilities, i do need help
[18:57] <PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWP> anyone have the same issue as me? My eeepec wont shutdown since i installed the latest version of ubuntu! pm pls
[18:57] <chalcedony> PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWP, i feel for you
[18:58] <eiriksvin> System-Wide PulseAudio Equalizer Updated For Ubuntu 11.04 Natty <- awesome!
[18:58] <soultekkie> is there a tool to append a line to files like /etc/sudoers
[18:58] <llutz> soultekkie: visudo
[18:58] <eiriksvin> google that if you want pure audio control
[18:58] <dr_willis> soultekkie,  echo can do that with carefull use of the > redirection
[18:59] <sosaited> Can someone tell what this command will do "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 51215 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 51215 "
[18:59] <dr_willis> soultekkie,  but thats not a good idea to mess with that file..  back it up first in any case
[19:00] <sgillet> hey all, I use "last [user] -a" command to check the last login/logouts of a user.. but it only shows me the history back to the 2nd of june
[19:00] <sgillet> do you know anything that can go earlier?
[19:01] <JohnSS_> Is having a dual-boot situation an increased security risk?
[19:01] <oCean> sgillet: see your wtmp.X files in /var/log. Use last -f /var/log/wtmp.1 for example
[19:01] <dinkdink> sosaited: i would sudo visudo
[19:01] <chalcedony> sgillet, http://www.go2linux.org/last-user-login-history ?
[19:03] <dinkdink> soultekkie: i would sudo visudo
[19:03] <adnc> hello, my autocomplete does not work well with natty anymore. if I press tab with a letter for a directory it does not stop with the directoryname and a slash it completes the directoryname and a space, how can I fix it?
[19:05] <sgillet> @oCean thank you
[19:05] <llutz> adnc: you installed acroreader? http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/bash-completion-devel/2011-February/003350.html
[19:06] <delinquentme> whats the ubuntu main menu applet that controls the volume
[19:06] <dinkdink> soultekkie: i suppose you could also echo "whatever" | sudo tee -a /path/to/file
[19:07] <matt1888> I have a problem I have running a live persistence USB and my whole GUI turned from the beautiful new ubuntu to something that looks like windows 95 GUI help?
[19:07] <lafon> partial workaround
[19:07] <chalcedony> Recovery menu
[19:07] <chalcedony> [ 12.202837] /build/buildd/linux-2.632/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: usb_submit_urb(ctrl) failed
[19:07] <lafon> installed first disk thru wine
[19:07] <chalcedony> dinkdink, ^^
[19:08] <lafon> then had the "data.cab" from home folder
[19:08] <lafon> worked properly :D
[19:08] <chalcedony> matt1888, what did you do exactly?
[19:09] <dinkdink> chalcedony: worst case scenario just back up your files and reinstall the operating system
[19:09] <matt1888> I logged off my account and logged back in
[19:09] <TaZeR> hey guys ubuntuz r0x0rz!
[19:09] <adnc> llutz, yes I did install acroreader
[19:09] <chalcedony> dinkdink, not if i can't get into my drive?
[19:10] <adnc> llutz, thank you very much for directing to the bug
[19:10] <lafon> @chalcedony: not even with livecd/usb?
[19:11] <dinkdink> chalcedony: not had a lot of foraying into the murky depths of banishment from the system however if you can get a livecd you could ..
[19:11] <dinkdink> chalcedony: what lafon said
[19:11] <chalcedony> oh lord :( lafon dinkdink thank you i think
[19:12] <dinkdink> well what else is there
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWP: do you have the latest BIOS?
[19:12] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, hugs very good to see you
[19:12] <computerx> G'day. Is there any way to limit the CPU usage of 1 program? Not like nice, but cap it at say 80% CPU use?
[19:12] <dinkdink> chalcedony: if you can get a livecd you can also search the drive for badblocks
[19:13] <edwardthefma> hey is thare a linux scandisc equivant that has a graphial display
[19:13] <JediMaster> Is there a mysql 5.5 ubuntu package around that someone knows of?
[19:13] <chalcedony> dinkdink, i'm not sure. my husband has the cds and he's asleep
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: and you dude
[19:13] <tertl3> computerx, cpu-set
[19:13] <tertl3> or cset
[19:13] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[19:14] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, ty - i'm the other one, not a dude ;)
[19:14] <wols_> computerx: yes there is. look into cgroups
[19:14] <Spodey> Evening - can anyone help me work out why my machine hangs on boot if I have a DVI device plugged in? If I wait until half way through the boot process and plug it in, it's fine.
[19:14] <computerx> k, thanks both
[19:14] <wols_> chalcedony: you can use smartmon-tools to check for bad sectors from a running system just fine
[19:14] <wols_> Spodey: kmodeset? fb?
[19:15] <Spodey> wols_: Is that a question or a statement? I'm wondering if it might be grub related...
[19:15] <dinkdink> edwardthefma: i routinely sudo touch /forcefsck but if you are talking scaning for bad sectors then badblocks is the thing to use, have to unmount the drive
[19:15] <chalcedony> wols_, live cd sounds right it's just doing it. (i'm still quite sick, recovering from an inefection)
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: hehe
[19:16] <wols_> Spodey: possibley reasons for it going blank
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: i call my mum dude too
[19:16] <Spodey> wols_: It's not just going blank - it freezes the whole machine
[19:16] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, ah i see! :)
 i want it to check the whole drive for errors
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: i'll call you dudette :0
[19:17] <dinkdink> Spodey: what's in your inittab
[19:18] <Czaruno2011> Hi all,  I think I have a simple question for you guys.  I have a fresh Wubi Ubuntu 11.04 install and I tried changing just one thing.  I added synergyc to the 'Startup Applications Preferences' and unfortunately now the login screen is not acting normally.   I can boot to a command line but I can't find where I can either reset or remove the entry I made into 'Startup Applications Preferences' from the command line to get things bac
[19:18] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, fine son, that will be just great :)
[19:18] <Spodey> dinkdink: I don't think I have an inittab
[19:19] <Spodey> And besides - I don't think it's getting that far - I don't get an SSD Daemon
[19:19] <chalcedony> did you ever try to wake up a guy that can't hear, feel or talk, to ask him for a *working* live cd.. when he keeps them all, working or not?
[19:19] <chalcedony> back in a few
[19:19] <lucidguy> Anyone have any experience with hpn-ssh?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> !boot | Czaruno2011
[19:20] <IAmError_> how do i make a file an executable? Im wanting to run something i have on my Win7 partition through wine on linux, and I right click, set as an executable, but when I try tio open with wine, it says it isn't.
[19:20] <Czaruno2011> ubottu,  from my understanding items in these preferences do not load at boot up but after you login to the window manager,  so I don't think the boot option references you sent apply.
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> IAmError_: chmod +x file
[19:21] <Mandrew> anyone who knows a channel with discussions about hardware for linux?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> IAmError_: unless the app is VERY portable, it most likely won't work
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: ##hardware  may know or help
[19:21] <Mandrew> ok tnx
[19:21] <wols_> IAmError_: nothing neded. simply running "wine <executable>". what is the error?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> wols_: wine likes the file it is using to be marked executable
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> IAmError_: does it work ok with playonlinux
[19:23] <sourav> hello all..
[19:23] <IAmError_> actionparsnip: havent tried that.
[19:23] <sourav> i am suffering some problem while installing cmake in ubuntu 10.4
[19:23] <IAmError_> Would a Mac version of a program run better than a Windows version?
[19:23] <sourav> when run the command sudo apt-get install cmake in terminal..
[19:23] <sourav> plz tell me how can i install cmake in my ubuntu-10.4
[19:23] <Mandrew> ActionParsnip i cant enter hardware  ##hardware :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[19:23] <Mandrew> * Cannot join #hardware (Channel is invite only).
[19:23] <RA_drc> !x
[19:24] <BluesKaj> IAmError_, try this : right click on the file>properties>permissions check the "make executable" box
[19:24] <Mandrew> ActionParsnip do you have any suggestions?
[19:25] <IAmError_> blueskaj: i have, then when i right click, open with wine, it says its not marked as an executable
[19:25] <IAmError_> same with the chmod command
[19:25] <trism> sourav: please pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get install cmake;
[19:25] <lafon> @IAmError do u have permission to mark it as exe?
[19:26] <RA_drc> !gtk
[19:26] <shp> i don't find my windows partition from ubuntu :(
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> IAmError_: you will need to remount the partition so that the files are marked executable.
[19:26] <shp> i want to access it
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> shp: if you run: sudo fdisk -l      do you see it?
[19:27] <lafon> shp: is the windows filesystem mounted?
[19:27] <BluesKaj> shp, sudo update-grub in the terminal , to start
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> IAmError_: what are you trying to run?
[19:29] <IAmError_> actionparsnip: doesn't matter anymore. it's too much of a hassle. i'll just keep switchin back and forth between partitions seeing as how linux is good for nothing but net browsing and elitist idealists who just want to show off
[19:29] <shp> ActionParsnip, yes can see it thanks i'm gonna mount it
[19:30] <RA_drc> how do i install gtk or x in ubuntu?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Iamerror: i'd say lots to the contrary but its offtopic here
[19:30] <Spodey> Attempting this to see if it solves my issue - http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-10-10-fix-the-screen-messed-up-at-start-up-and-shutdown
[19:31] <shp> windows part was already mounted in /host
[19:31] <shp> nice
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Iamerror: look into penumbra ;-)
[19:32] <IAmError_> actionparsnip: well my problem is, im finding it hard to use GNU/Linux, when I can't just get on, and use my files. i have to go through the hassle of changing permissions, when im clearly the main user. Is there a way to ALWAYS be in command so I don't have to change permissions?
[19:32] <BluesKaj> IAmError_, perhaps there's a linux equivalent to the app, have you done any research
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Shp: yeah its one good thing of wubi. I suggest you run:  ln -s /host ~/Windows\ Files
[19:33] <IAmError_> Blueskaj: there isn't.
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> IAmError_: how do you want to "use your files"?
[19:34] <BluesKaj> IAmError_, what's the app ?
[19:34] <HelloWorld321> How much more/less of a hassle is it to run the LTS (10.04) version instead of the latest (11.04) version ?
[19:34] <TaZeR> wtf hayden panettiere just asked me out!
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Shp: makes life lots easier
[19:34] <HelloWorld321> TaZeR: D*U*D*E !!!
[19:34] <Pici> !ot | TaZeR
[19:34] <shp> don't understand your symbolic link ActionParsnip
[19:34] <shp> no get it
[19:34] <TaZeR> but shes soooo hot!!
[19:34] <shp> thanks
[19:34] <Sonderblade> this is strange, im running ubuntu lucid and some unknown process is continually eating up disk space.. about 100mb/h
[19:34] <oCean> TaZeR: stop
[19:35] <TaZeR> seriously i would eat her shit and drink her piss
[19:35] <TaZeR> shes that hot!
[19:35] <nawk> if I remove Unity with Gnome-3 will I break my system?
[19:35] <nawk> s/remove/replace/
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> HelloWorld321: both are great. Desktop support ends at the same time for both. Newer kernel may be nicer if your hardware is super
[19:36] <wols_> Sonderblade: sounds like logs
[19:36] <wols_> Sonderblade: check size of /var/log
[19:36] <lafon> What is the req for unity?
[19:36] <RusAlex> hi guys, how can i check my laptop which usb port is 2.0  and which is not ?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> Shp: once ran, you will be able to access and save files to and from the folder "windows files"
[19:37] <Sonderblade> wols_: no, the whole /var is only 1.9gb
[19:37] <wols_> Sonderblade: mail then?
[19:37] <M1_> Where in /dev is my microphone input?
[19:38] <Sonderblade> wols_: no
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> lafon: unity needs 3D acceleration. You can use unity-2D which does not
[19:38] <nawk> if I replace Unity with Gnome-3 will I break my system?
[19:39] <lafon> RusAlex: this is not really checking but if its between 1 and 8 years old its probably usb 2.0
[19:39] <lafon> thanks ActionParsnip
[19:39] <ubuntufggf> I can't seem to install a wine theme, it just doesn't work. I get the correct theme file, click to install it, but it's not showing up in the dropdown menu. Any suggestions?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Nawk: gnome3 isn't stable or advised so most likely yes
[19:39] <lafon> is there any RAM requirement for unity?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> !requirements
[19:40] <wols_> lafon: only the default ubuntu requirement
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Lafon: its just a shell ontop of gnome so won't need much more than a normal desktop.
[19:43] <RusAlex> lafon: i have 3 usb ports on my notebook, and one of them is 2.0 - 100%, lsusb show me this info, but i want to recognize which of 3 is 2.0
[19:43] <lafon> ahhh ok
[19:43] <lafon> 'cause i tried it on 1 computer abd i got the gnome desktop
[19:43] <pipegeek> is the jaunty archive still mirrored anywhere?
[19:43] <platius> RusAlex,  I believe the 3.0 usb connectors are blue if you look into them.
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Jaunty is dead
[19:44] <RusAlex> platius: i don't have any 3.0 usbs
[19:44] <lafon> RusAlex how old is this laptop.
[19:44] <platius> RusAlex,  the connectors on the laptop are blue inside
[19:44] <lafon> or was it a custom install
[19:44] <lafon> build*
[19:45] <RusAlex> platius: are you an artist ?
[19:45] <RusAlex> i don't believe in colors
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Strange belief
[19:46] <Spodey> RusAlex: Have you tried simply plugging in an SD card reader or something and copying the file to your desktop - try it on all 3 ports and see which give syou the fastest speed?
[19:46] <RusAlex> Spodey: thanks, but i want to do it without checking read and write speed
[19:46] <TheRedOctober> Where can I find the file containing old network interface mac addresses to remove them so new network interfaces are not so hi?  (i want to simplify some network scripts across machines)
[19:47] <afancy_> Hi, i want to do some screen recording (also voice). Could anybody recommend me some recording software? thanks
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> RusAlex: got a manual?
[19:47] <Corey> TheRedOctober: ...what are you talking about? :-)
[19:47] <Spodey> RusAlex: Well, that would be the quickest way of doing it. Unless you are doing this for academic reasons?
[19:47] <Spodey> Physically, those ports could be wired to anything. And in fact, the USB 2.0 might be internal only
[19:47] <llutz> TheRedOctober:do  you mean /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules?
[19:47] <Kr3m1in> Can somebody please quickly explain to me how to change scrolling speed? (Ubuntu 11.04)
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Afancy: cheese  maybe
[19:48] <Gaming4JC> Hey all, I just installed TightVNC on Ubuntu 10.4LTS. Ran into the keyboard layout bug. I tried setting a fake layout since none was given. and "abfh" was properly insereted as mentioned in this post
[19:48] <Gaming4JC> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=05a4c5a99ca6355fa795897a8aa8fe6c&p=4325837&postcount=9
[19:48] <RA_drc> how do i install gtk or x in ubuntu?
[19:48] <Gaming4JC> sadly, it didn't fix the issue and I'm still at a loss. Also tried setting to US, etc.
[19:48] <Swaraj> wassup
[19:48] <BlouBlou> RA_drc: it comes by default
[19:48] <TheRedOctober> llutz: exactly, thx!
[19:48] <Corey> TheRedOctober: A MAC address is 12 hexadecimal digits that's bound to an interface.
[19:48] <lafon> RusAlex try asking lsusb to be verbose
[19:49] <RusAlex> thanks guys. will try to check with bluray movie
[19:49] <Galvatron> RA_drc: For X, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg", and for GTK it depends on which enviroment you want.
[19:49] <Kr3m1in> Can somebody tell me how to change scroll sensitivity/rate on Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop x64? Settings > Mouse doesn't have any interface regarding this.
[19:49] <pipegeek> Are the jaunty repositories still mirrored anywhere publicly, or are they gone?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> RusAlex: unless you are copying huge amounts of data at a time, it won't make a huge amount of realtime difference
[19:49] <dinkdink> pipegeek: medibuntu has jaunty repos
[19:50] <RA_drc> BlouBlou: i tried running make gconfig and make xconfig and they both gave me errors, they said they can't find gtk+ or qt3, respectively
[19:50] <TheRedOctober> Corey: try a vm with 6 nics, cloning the VMs a few times over, you get to ethXX...i would like to add some logic to my nics, keep them all eth0-5
[19:50] <lafon> @ActionParsnip therefor copying Blu-Ray
[19:50] <RA_drc> Galvatron: how do i know which environment i went?
[19:50] <Pici> pipegeek: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[19:50] <afancy_> ActionParsnip: not record by webcam
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> pipegeek: gone gone. 3rd party ppas may have jaunty stuff.
[19:50] <Pici> pipegeek: you really should upgrade though
[19:51] <afancy_> ActionParsnip: i want to record on how to use an application for demo
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> lafon: yeah that'll help. Firewire may be better
[19:51] <pipegeek> Pici: thanks!
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> afancy_: recordmydesktop
[19:51] <pipegeek> and noted :)  this is for a build machien
[19:51] <afancy_> ok, thansk
[19:52] <lafon> is there anyway to set a program for a mass of files?
[19:52] <Galvatron> pipegeek: http://atlanticlinux.ie/blog/?p=143
[19:52] <jrib> lafon: what exactly do you mean?
[19:52] <lafon> ex. FBReader for .epub etc
[19:53] <lafon> obviously i mean more files incl. lit mobi
[19:53] <wols_> lafon: calibre
[19:53] <lafon> i personally don't like calibre
[19:53] <n1xNc0d3> hi, IDLE with Python 3 is crashing on completion! What should i do?
[19:53] <lafon> i am using fbreader
[19:53] <Galvatron> RA_drc: GTK is used in GNOME, XFCE and LXDE, while KDE id QT-based.
[19:53] <Gaming4JC> Ok seriously this keyboard bug is lame. "asdf" appears as "abfh" in TightVNC... :(
[19:53] <koshieFinalReliz> Hi
[19:53] <Galvatron> !GTK
[19:54] <lafon> problem is i installed calibre first
[19:54] <Galvatron> !XFCE | !LXDE
[19:55] <Corey> TheRedOctober: Okay, but that's not a MAC address.
[19:55] <Galvatron> RA_drc: Dont't worry, because GTK will be installed the moment you try installing the first GTK app.;)
[19:59] <lafon> quit lunchtime :D
[19:59] <ortsvorsteher> hello. i just search when firefox 4 will be available for lucid.
[19:59] <ManoloMtnez> Hello
[19:59] <shp> i have installed counter strike source and steam: a lot of lags!!! (i works perfectly good in windows) and the luminosity switchs every second ....
[20:00] <shp> i used wine
[20:00] <maverikh> hi... need some help with starting an app during boot
[20:00] <Pici> shp: We do not support how applications run under wine in here, please ask in #winehq
[20:00] <ortsvorsteher> !boot | maverikh
[20:00] <ManoloMtnez> My ubuntu natty now freezes at mid boot
[20:01] <ortsvorsteher> hi maverikhmay the links ubottu gave you helps to install apps and start them in needed runlevel
[20:01] <ortsvorsteher> hi maverikh may the links ubottu gave you helps to install apps and start them in needed runlevel
[20:01] <ManoloMtnez> Right after the msg failed to get i915 symbols...
[20:01] <Pici> !runlevels | ortsvorsteher
[20:02] <ManoloMtnez> Anyone could helo me with this?
[20:02] <ManoloMtnez> Thx
[20:03] <ortsvorsteher> thx Pici , but maverikh was asking so i gave him !boot links from ubottu. i think that is what he is searching for.
[20:03] <jakemp> I just made firefox visible in all desktops, how do I undo this?
[20:03] <maverikh> ive actually read all those, im a noob basically... i have a program that installs its own postgre database within its folder. when i first install the app it works fine. if the server reboots itself the program stops working
[20:03] <maverikh> the only way to fix it is to re-install app
[20:04] <ortsvorsteher> maverikh, is there any start/stop script which you became with the install of this app?
[20:04] <maverikh> yes, a start stop and restart
[20:04] <lafon> Ummm....any solution for extremly choppy audio/video?
[20:05] <Seven_Six_Two> not sure what's going on any more. when I play an avi in xine maximized, the window moves up and to the left pixel by pixel, and then shudders to a halt. If I'm quick enough to kill it and try vlc, I can play for a minute or two before my hd starts spinning like mad and my whole system slows to a crawl. I mean crawl. If I alt-ctrl-f1 it takes about 5 minutes to get a login prompt. another 5 to 10 before I get a bash prompt. ther
[20:05] <Seven_Six_Two> e's nothing listed in dmesg when this happens. no other programs give me issues. I have an nvidia 6800gtoc and I'm using the recommended driver (dual head config)
[20:05] <clix> can you get a list of available kernel modules? I want to find one for my wireless card
[20:05] <AndChat-> Re
[20:05] <maverikh> i added it to my rc.local but it didnt work,  im not sure if i added it right.
[20:05] <ortsvorsteher> maverikh, so i think you can add your app to start and stop when start and stop your system by update-rc.d
[20:05] <Foloex> hello world
[20:06] <llutz> clix: modprobe -l
[20:06] <joltman> running 10.10x64 and i'm not able to ping anything local to my network...however, i do have SSH port forwarding through my router (pfSense box) and i'm able to SSH to my home network from outside and am on the same box that's having issues
[20:06] <lafon> Seven_Six_Two: i'm having similar problems (tho I have the LTS)
[20:06] <spacebug-> if I manually remove a conffig file for a package and want that back, how can I do? I tried purge and then install again but the config files dont come back
[20:06] <Seven_Six_Two> lafon, what video card?
[20:07] <maverikh> hmmm ok
[20:07] <maverikh> let me try it
[20:07] <ortsvorsteher> sure
[20:07] <lafon> basic integrated intel chipset
[20:07] <Seven_Six_Two> lafon, are you having the same xine and vlc issues, or just choppy video?
[20:08] <lafon> i used totem
[20:08] <user_> hi all
[20:08] <maverikh> does this line of code look ok?   su brent -c "/media/employees/brent/TimeTrex/start"
[20:08] <lafon> and any games have same problem
[20:08] <C4colo> anything change between 8.04 and 10.04 as far as encrypted partitions go?
[20:08] <lafon> 'cept I lose all control and HAVE to restart
[20:08] <C4colo> I have a 1TB mirrored array that was encrypted prior to an upgrade and now when I unlock it, well, it just says "unpartitioned"
[20:08] <Foloex> I have some trouble with my network interface, it's acting wierd. It's working during short periods. My dmesg is full of "eth0: link up" (but no link down). It use to be working fine. I'm running 11.04 amd64 desktop with a r8169 chipset.
[20:08] <kvarley> When I do "tar jcvf archive.tar.bz2 /home/kvarley/Documents" it makes the archive BUT within it there are folders home kvarley, I just want it to put Documents in there. What am I doing wrong?
[20:08] <C4colo> no data there
[20:09] <Renekton> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and wanna know if is possible to start wireless connection before fstab...
[20:09] <C4colo> 8.04 everything there, do an upgrade to 10.04 and it is now an empty partition
[20:09] <BlouBlou> C4colo: All applications had been upgraded
[20:09] <clix> llutz, that shows active modules? or installed ones? or just what's in /lib/modules? I mean can i see a list of modules from ubuntu servers that i can install?
[20:09] <C4colo> so a new version of encryption will not decrypt when given the same passphrase?
[20:09] <jakemp> I just made firefox visible in all desktops, how do I undo this?
[20:09] <llutz> clix: it show modules available, used modules to list "lsmod"
[20:09] <C4colo> should that not be disclosed during the upgrade process?
[20:09] <lafon> kvarley, I'm not even a newbie but it sounds like yoy are compressing your home folder to the archive
[20:10] <SockPants> hi all
[20:10] <lafon> rather than opening it
[20:10] <C4colo> do I need to find an 8.04 disc and install a system just to recover my data?
[20:10] <SockPants> i'm trying to make a usb drive with the latest install on it to install on my netbook
[20:10] <SockPants> i'm using a mac
[20:10] <clix> ok, so I have some 80211 modules in kernel/net/wireless how do i install new ones?
[20:11] <SockPants> the mac will read the usb drive i've made, the windows netbook will say i need to format it and it will not boot from the usb key.
[20:11] <lafon> did you make the usb bootable?
[20:11] <SockPants> doesn't say i need to anywhere
[20:11] <llutz> clix: either install packages containing new modules, a new kernel-package or build modules yourself
[20:11] <lafon> did you extraxt the .iso to the usb or use a program?
[20:12] <SockPants> lafon: i followed the instructions on the site. they involve converting the iso to an img file and then dd'ing it to the usb drive.
[20:12] <C4colo> also, while I'm here, I edited the stupid gconf-editor setting for the button_layout and it did nothing to move the buttons back to where they belong.  Is there another user-specific override for that setting?
[20:12] <clix> llutz, right, so where's the list of packages containing new modules, so i can install the right one?
[20:12] <mBull> hi, anyone experience with dyndns, or a similar service to provide dns serverices?
[20:12] <C4colo> I have done that on 20 other systems and it always seems to work, what did I do on my desktop that prevented that setting from moving the buttons
[20:12] <lafon> SockPants: try finding an app that'll do it for you and then see
[20:12] <llutz> clix: what exactly do you miss/need/want?
[20:13] <SockPants> i'm wondering whether the instructions only work if you want to actually install ubuntu on a mac, not just any computer. that doesn't seem likely though
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Mbull: i use no-ip
[20:13] <C4colo> but more importantly, why the fuck isn't my encryption string decrypting the volume anymore?
[20:13] <SockPants> why would i need an app, the instructions are on the official site.
[20:13] <oCean> C4colo: mind your language here
[20:13] <lafon> dunno
[20:13] <C4colo> english isn't acceptable?
[20:13] <lafon> but its worth a try
[20:13] <IdleOne> !language | C4colo
[20:13] <Randolph`> C4colo: please dont say the F word in front of me kthnx
[20:13] <clix> i need the module for my wireless card which is rt3090pcie
[20:14] <C4colo> I'm being professional, that's how we talk in my profession when 1TB volumes don't decrypt today with the same key they did yesterday
[20:14] <IdleOne> C4colo: Don't swear in this channel please
[20:14] <mBull> c4colo have used a salt?
[20:14] <C4colo> I used the bult-in encrypted volumes tool in 8.04
[20:14] <n1xNc0d3> IDLE with Python 3 is crashing on code completion! What should i do?
[20:14] <C4colo> and 10.04
[20:14] <C4colo> and they produce very different restults
[20:15] <C4colo> if either of those use salt then they should remain consistent
[20:15] <kennethreitz> where does the tmux configuration come from that's included in the new ubuntu AMIs?
[20:15] <kennethreitz> i love it
[20:15] <sburwood1> I have Ubuntu 11.04 and Firefox 4.  To access a site that I need to access, I need to use either Internet Explorer 8 or Firefox 3.6.  I haven't been able to get Firefox 3.6 (32 bit) installed so I can use the site I need.  Can someone help me??
[20:15] <llutz> clix: read here for info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1600498
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Mbull: there is the client app   noip2   to update the ip regularly
[20:16] <mBull> any good?
[20:16] <lafon> does anyone know how to fix the choppy video/audio problem>
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: grab an agent switcher addon
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> lafon: try a different output method in preferences
[20:17] <lafon> explain
[20:17] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: Did that a couple days ago.  Didn't fix the problem.  Also, the site seems to require a 32 bit version.  My 11.04 and my Firefox is 64 bit
[20:17] <clix> llutz, ok, will read that - i found some on that forum before using google but didn't understand it - I was hoping for something like install package called xxx then it will work :D
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Mbull: no issues in 4 years (best guess). Just need to keep refreshing the account with the email they send occasionally
[20:18] <llutz> !find rt3090
[20:18] <Seven_Six_Two> ActionParsnip, I'm having a similar issue. if I open xine and maximize it (with and without video loaded) it moves up and to the left pixel by pixel. output method doesn't make a difference. I ran xine in terminal, and there's no output
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: there may be a how to on getting 32bit browser on 64bit OS. Otherwise not sure
[20:19] <w30> All of a sudden I have slow key feature at my gdm login; not any where else. I didn't set that feature that I know of How do I get that feature turned off?
[20:19] <sburwood1> will try, brb
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: same in all players?
[20:20] <mBull> ActionParsnip: nice, i'll have a look, have your tried refreshing the account with a script?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: if you use compiz, try without to see if it helps
[20:20] <Seven_Six_Two> ActionParsnip, only xine moves, both xine and vlc eventually freeze my box
[20:21] <Seven_Six_Two> ActionParsnip, ok, I'll try that
[20:21] <llutz> clix:module seems to be available here https://launchpad.net/~markus-tisoft/+archive/rt3090/+build/1098170/+files/rt3090-dkms_2.1.0.0-0ubuntu0~ppa1_all.deb    download it, install with "sudo  dpkg -i rt3090-dkms_2.1.0.0-0ubuntu0~ppa1_all.deb"
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Mbull: noip2 runs as a process and does it automagically. Here its every 30 mins
[20:22] <Seven_Six_Two> turning off effects isn't in "appearances" any more.
[20:22] <lafon> Oh great. I started a video and then the player quit leaving me with my gui 4x the size it should be
[20:22] <clix> llutz, I tried to install that before and it said that the package doesn't conform because it has binaries in an architecture independent package, so ubuntu refused to install it
[20:22] <Seven_Six_Two> isn't compiz required for unity?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: press Alt+F2 and run: metacity --replace
[20:23] <jduke128> hi
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: yes, unity will just stop. Its only to test
[20:23] <Galvatron> Seven_Six_Two: There's a thing called Unity 2D, for hardware not capable of running Compiz
[20:24] <llutz> clix: try dpkg --force-architecture                but that might break things, be carefull
[20:24] <jduke128> d
[20:24] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: I had downloaded a version of Firefox 3.6 at a cyber cafe, but it ends *.bz2.  Sorry to ask such a stupid question, but how do I install that?  "tar -____ *.bz2", I suppose.  Then what?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> !away > FusionX|Away
[20:25] <FusionX> sorry, some script activated "auto-away"
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: tar jxvf file
[20:25] <maverikh> i got it working... i misread the guides you gave me... i had myself confused for a bit
[20:25] <xenland> Whats a good radio streaming server app for ubuntu vps server? I would like to start a radio streaming broadcast that i can connect with virtual dj.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: you'll need ia32-libs   for it to run
[20:26] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: Wait a minute
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Xenland: vlc-nox, mplayer, mediatomb maybe
[20:26] <ManoloMtnez> hello everyone
[20:27] <clix> modinfo rt2860sta
[20:27] <clix> oops
[20:27] <xenland> Oh cool thanks i didnt know mplayer had this capability
[20:27] <ManoloMtnez> Somehow my Ubuntu Natty has stopped booting
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> xenland: it does a Lot. May do what you need
[20:28] <ManoloMtnez> now it freezes at mid boot, right after the message 'failed to get i915 symbols...'
[20:28] <C4colo> seriously though, what good is a technical support chat room where you are prohibited from cursing?  About 93% of my cursing is technical-support-related.
[20:28] <ManoloMtnez> i've googled for that, but workarounds assume that the computer still boots. Which it doesn't
[20:28] <ManoloMtnez> Any advice? Thanks!
[20:28] <clix> llutz, I have the rt2860sta module :) must have been something I did yesterday to install it - now to make it work
[20:29] <llutz> clix: sudo modprobe rt2860sta
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> C4colo: its channel policy due to the range of ages in here as well as keeping things civilized and mature.
[20:29] <alienmindtrick> I'm using Google Chrome in Natty and I have problems with Java on some sites. I'm using the current Java 6-26 version. Any idea what I can do?
[20:29] <Hanzo> !Ceyda28 mrb
[20:29] <clix> llutz, will it load by default? should i add that to a config file?
[20:29] <w30> C4colo, you need the latest ncurses on your computer to do that :=)
[20:30] <GatekeeperZA> hello everyone, how would i add multiple hosts to my /etc/hosts eg if i want to resolv me.me.com to 192.168.0.10 / me2.me.com to 192.168.0.10
[20:30] <C4colo> haha w30
[20:30] <llutz> clix: 1st check if it loads and works. if it does, add "rt2860sta" to /etc/modules to make sure it'll be loaded at boottime
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> alienmindtrick: googlesearch: natty java     hit i'm feeling lucky. Great java ppa
[20:30] <phrostbite> I am trying to install python but it says to run "su root" However it keeps telling me my password is invalid which I know it isn't
[20:31] <C4colo> ActionParsnip,  your definition of mature is not the same as the MPAA's I guess.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Gatekeeper: just add another line
[20:31] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: I just looked everywhere for ia32-libs, but didn't find it.  Even in Synaptic
[20:31] <alienmindtrick> ActionParsnip: did that a couple days ago. same problem.
[20:32] <Seven_Six_Two> Galvatron, I know, my hardware can handle acceleration.
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> C4colo: that is moot. Rules are rules and by using the channel you agreed to abide by them
[20:32] <alienmindtrick> ActionParsnip: i have the same problem on the same sites in Firefox, too.
[20:32] <GatekeeperZA> ActionParsnip, a new line with the domain name and ip of the machine or local ip .. ?
[20:32] <clix> llutz, ok, thanks a lot for your help - i think i am on the right track now :)
[20:32] <C4colo> anyway, seems the disk utility doesn't like my fstab entry so it was mounting it at /media/VOLUMELABEL instead of where I told it to, and add that to the fact that the disk manager doesn't know it doesn't know how to read encrypted partition tables it is saying it is unpartitioned
[20:32] <C4colo> so it was a red-herring-false-alarm sort of situation going on
[20:32] <fizyplankton> how do i check which partition GRUB is installed to?
[20:33] <C4colo> ActionParsnip, get a procreating sense of humor
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Gatekeeper: treat is as a seperate entry.
[20:33] <Seven_Six_Two> ActionParsnip, that didn't go very well. as soon as I hit enter after metacity --replace  I lost my panels, window decorations, and the ability to type in any window
[20:33] <jtreminio> Hello all. If I've completely removed all items from the gnome panels (gnome 2), how do I delete the last, empty panel? I'm using AWN + dockbarx so I've no need for the panels anymore.
[20:33] <C4colo> cursing = mature content
[20:33] <C4colo> it is a joke, get it?
[20:33] <C4colo> you said to keep it "mature" in here
[20:33] <oCean> C4colo: can you stop the offtopic discussion?
[20:33] <ninota> Hola un saludo.¿Se habla español aquí?
[20:33] <Pici> !es | ninota
[20:33] <ManoloMtnez> hello, I wouldn't want to break any netiquette, but this chat goes really fast :) Should I repost my problem?
[20:33] <ninota> Gracias
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> C4colo: i do and i too swear up a storm at work but here its not permitted. Can you not express yourself otherwise?
[20:34] <C4colo> I'm just trying to get some help and provide a resolution to my disconcerting issue from a few minutes ago ... a little small talk is not unwarranted in these situations
[20:34] <phrostbite> I am trying to install python but it says to run "su root" However it keeps telling me my password is invalid which I know it isn't
[20:34] <aeon-ltd> ManoloMtnez: yes if unanswered it's usually best to post again in a few minutes
[20:34] <jtreminio> phrostbite:  sudo apt-get install python ?
[20:34] <Pici> phrostbite: Python should already be installed by default.
[20:34] <oCean> C4colo: the smalltalk goes in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[20:34] <C4colo> but this is channel-specific talk
[20:35] <C4colo> the subject was breached in this very channel
[20:35] <sburwood1> ur busy, ActionParsnip.  Sorry
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> phrostbite: use:   sudo -i
[20:35] <GatekeeperZA> ActionParsnip, a new line with the domain name and ip of the machine or local ip .. ? and to i just do a networking restart to activate changes ... ?
[20:35] <ManoloMtnez> aeon-ltd: Thanks!
[20:35] <phrostbite> Which version of python? Shouldn't there be a way to run it?
[20:35] <alienmindtrick> second issue: i just did a fresh install of natty a couple days ago and now when i start my machine i have to log in 3 times, every time. what gives and how do i remedy it?
[20:35] <C4colo> I came here with a LUKS encryption issue, the participants in this channel forked the topic
[20:35] <Pici> phrostbite: Depends which release of Ubuntu you're using.
[20:35] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, check your repositories in synaptic make sure they're all enable including canonical parthers and other software if you're slightly adventurous
[20:35] <Gaming4JC> Ok I need some one to walk me through getting a VNC working on Ubuntu. Ripping my hair out atm... :(
[20:35] <Pici> C4colo: Just re-ask your question then.
[20:36] <ManoloMtnez> Hi, Somehow my Ubuntu Natty has stopped booting
[20:36] <C4colo> I don't need to, I just provided the resolution for anyone concerned
[20:36] <ManoloMtnez> now it freezes at mid boot, right after the message 'failed to get i915 symbols...'
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Gatekeeper: no need to restart service. Its good to go immediately
[20:36] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: I am, if I'm not going to crash my machine
[20:36] <ManoloMtnez> i've googled for that, but workarounds assume that the computer still boots. Which it doesn't
[20:36] <sburwood1> ;à
[20:36] <Hanzo> !Ceyda28: wat
[20:36] <sburwood1> ;)
[20:36] <ManoloMtnez> Any advice? Thanks!ç
[20:36] <C4colo> just tying up some conversational loose-ends related to the channel's policies
[20:36] <oCean> Hanzo: stop the spamming
[20:36] <fizyplankton> how do i check which partition GRUB is installed to?
[20:36] <Pici> C4colo: cool beans.  If you want to hang out and answer questions thats fine, otherwise general chat belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere :)
[20:36] <aeon-ltd> ManoloMtnez: also in one line to prevent clutter
[20:36] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, no it won;t crash , it's mostly to do with legalities
[20:37] <ManoloMtnez> aeon-ltd: oh, sorry. I thought long posts were worse
[20:37] <BluesKaj> !repositories > sburwood1
[20:37] <C4colo> how can discussing #ubuntu be off-topic in #ubuntu?
[20:37] <fizyplankton> how do i check which partition GRUB is installed to?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Sburwood: weird. Check the deps of wine. I'm sure it exists
[20:37] <C4colo> and I mean #ubuntu the channel itself, the one conveying these words to you
[20:38] <C4colo> is there a #ubuntu-#ubuntu channel?
[20:38] <Seven_Six_Two> is there more than one method to turn off compiz in 11.04? metacity --replace  didn't work out so well for me
[20:38] <Pici> C4colo: If you want to discuss a confusion about the policies of this channel please join me in #ubuntu-ops
[20:38] <IdleOne> C4colo: this is a support channel, stick to ubuntu support
[20:38] <aeon-ltd> Seven_Six_Two: not without killing it then starting another WM
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> C4colo: its a support channel only. Discussion of the channel itself is not ubuntu support
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Pici: read my mind
[20:39] <Seven_Six_Two> alright. we'll try kde next
[20:39] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: In Synaptic, it mentions 7 things when I type ia32, but I don't see anything that seems to be identified as ia32-libs
[20:40] <clix> wireless is working, thanks llutz
[20:40] <fizyplankton> hey guys, is there any way to check which partition GRUB is installed to?
[20:40] <jtreminio> Hello all. If I've completely removed all items from the gnome panels (gnome 2), how do I delete the last, empty panel? I'm using AWN + dockbarx so I've no need for the panels anymore.
[20:40] <clix> now on to the webcam
[20:40] <alienmindtrick> OK, since ActionParsnip left...and he was answering my question...should I assume that I should repost it?
[20:40] <GatekeeperZA> how do i restart service to activate net /etc/hosts without restarting pc
[20:41] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, did you check the repositories ?...it's ther if you have the correct ones enabled
[20:41] <ManoloMtnez> Hello, Ubuntu natty has started freezing at mid boot, right after the message "failed to get i915 symbols, graphics turbo disabled".
[20:41] <ManoloMtnez> I don't know whether this error message is related to whatever is making Ubuntu choke, but maybe it isn't, as it doesn't prevent most to boot (according to Google). Any advise?
[20:41] <sburwood1> I enabled everything except for Opera beta
[20:41] <Hanzo>  başım dönüyor , çok içmişim!Ceyda28: başım dönüyor , çok içmişim
[20:41] <Galvatron> ManoloMtnez: Have you tried recovery mode?
[20:42] <Pici> !tr | Hanzo
[20:42] <ManoloMtnez> Galvatron: yes, that's where I'm seeing the error message
[20:42] <aeon-ltd> fizyplankton: isn't grub installed to /boot ? which will be in your / by default
[20:43] <GatekeeperZA> how do i restart service to activate net /etc/hosts without restarting pc
[20:43] <alienmindtrick>  I'm using Google Chrome in Natty and I have problems with Java on some sites. I'm using the current Java 6-26 version. Any idea what I can do?
[20:43] <nnull> when performing eg: "apt-get install firefox" --- where does apt-get put the tar.gz files before it makes them? equivelent of c:/windows/temp ?
[20:43] <ManoloMtnez> nnull: /temp ?
[20:43] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: I have everything enabled except for Opera beta.  That should include what I need, no?
[20:44] <ManoloMtnez> nnull: Sorry /tmp I meant
[20:44] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: And I even tried 10.10 and Windows XP in VirtualBox, so I have a real problem
[20:44] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: Have you tried Chromium?
[20:44] <llutz> nnull: /var/cache/apt/archives    except its .deb and not tar.gz
[20:44] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, everything ? how did opera repository get in there ?
[20:45] <nnull> hmm ManoloMtnez , im assuming apt-get deletes the files after making them then.. which makes sense i suppose.. mmk, thanks.
[20:45] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: wait one and I'll try it
[20:45] <fizyplankton> aeon-ltd: yeah. it seem to be in all 3 partitions
[20:45] <nnull> ahh llutz , champion ;)
[20:45] <ManoloMtnez> nnull: yes, the straight dope is elsewhere :P
[20:45] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: In other software
[20:45] <aeon-ltd> fizyplankton: three different OSes?
[20:45] <Galvatron> ManoloMtnez: It's hard to find any soution if you don't have an acces to any terminal
[20:46] <ManoloMtnez> Galvatron: I know!
[20:46] <aeon-ltd> fizyplankton: sorry gotta go; good luck
[20:46] <fizyplankton> yeah 2 lucid installs, and one natty install (which i want to unumatall). also, i have a winxp install, but i KNOW that GRUB isnt there
[20:46] <ManoloMtnez> Galvatron: Should I reinstall? That seems like overkill...
[20:46] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, type ia32 ...see what comes up
[20:46] <Hanzo>  off yaa!Ceyda28: off yaa!Ceyda28: off yaa
[20:47] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, , make sure you click reload on synaptic first
[20:47] <Galvatron> ManoloMtnez: It might be the fastest way out.
[20:48] <clix> I can't see anything that looks like a camera in sudo lshw - there is an unclaimed serial device and and unclaimed communication device, could it be one of those?
[20:48] <ManoloMtnez> Galvatron: OK, thanks. It'll be my third Natty reinstall. Not having luck with this version, no sir.
[20:48] <llutz> clix: try "lsusb"
[20:49] <SockPants> i've managed to run the live test version now
[20:49] <SockPants> but i can't open firefox
[20:49] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: I have microcode.ctl, grub-efi-ia32, elilo, grub-efi,refit, libasm0 and libasm0-dev
[20:49] <SockPants> i click it, it starts to blink, then it goes back to normal.
[20:49] <zaksoldier> Hi
[20:49] <Hanzo>  ne diyo bunlar ya
[20:49] <Galvatron> ManoloMtnez: As for Intel , try xorg-edgers and kernel PPA with the latest version of intel-dedicated DRM-next kernel.
[20:49] <HelloWorld123> I'm getting ready to re-install my Natty, too.
[20:49] <jduke128> ne
[20:50] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: OK, I just installed and tried to use Chromium with Java. Nope.
[20:50] <Odun> Linux kanali
[20:50] <clix> llutz, two integrated rate matching hubs and two root hubs in lsusb - nothing else. the camera is a built-in one on this laptop, so i'm trying to figure out the model
[20:50] <Odun> sen yaz
[20:50] <Odun> senin mesajin gidiyor onlara...
[20:50] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: Forgot that Chrome and Chromium are pretty much the same thing.
[20:50] <llutz> clix: was just a guess since my netbooks camera is usb :) sry cannot help
[20:50] <ManoloMtnez> Galvatron: Thanks a lot for the advice
[20:51] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: Did you see what I have?  I haven't a clue as to what that is and if it is ia32
[20:51] <Odun> hi
[20:51] <HelloWorld123> but my CD-Rom is physically  busted (won't open); for whatever reason my USB installer won't boot.  Is there a way to double check the USB installer to make sure it's valid?  It looks valid from doing ls on it, but I don't know what I'm looking for.
[20:51] <Odun> whats up
[20:51] <Odun> did u like new website ?
[20:51] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, are actually running a 64bit install ?
[20:51] <HelloWorld123> Anyway, if I can't boot my USB drive, can I just run the installer from the old Natty?
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> okenobi_, so xine in kde (with effects) doesn't move up and to the left like it does in unity
[20:51] <sburwood1> yup
[20:51] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: What's frustrating is that when I do the Java version test on the Java website, it says that I'm up to date.
[20:51] <Odun> we give gifts to all people who is posting topics to website
[20:51] <Pici> Odun, This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  If you mean to have a private conversation, then you may do so in private.
[20:51] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: Yup
[20:51] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: i just had a similar problem, ended up using unetbootin to make the usb installer and it worked
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> okenobi_, sorry, I meant "ok"
[20:51] <Odun> can you help website greece version?
[20:52] <Odun> nice
[20:52] <Odun> we make server international this time we hope big people count
[20:52] <Odun> i know your problem  our other gm...
[20:52] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: At least I think so ...
[20:52] <Odun> i will talk about that on private with u
[20:53] <Odun> jason , kimsin ?
[20:53] <Odun> cancel ?
[20:53] <SockPants> how do you change the keyboard layout in 11.04
[20:53] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: tx, installing unetbootin now
[20:53] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: You might be best asking in the "chromium-support" channel
[20:53] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: hope it helps
[20:54] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: Does that still hold true since it's now proven to be an issue in Chrome, Chromium and Firefox?
[20:54] <Seven_Six_Two> both xine and vlc choke and die under unity, but not kde. where should I start looking for a bug?
[20:54] <Galvatron> SockPants: System > Preferences > keyboard
[20:54] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: besides, I need Firefox 3.6.  I downloaded a Firefox 3.6.  I did tar -jxvf the bz2, but don't know what to do next.
[20:54] <SockPants> Galvatron: first off, where is 'System'
[20:55] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: Besides, I am wondering if the FF 3.6 is 16 bit or 32 bit
[20:55] <nnull> SockPants: ALT+F1 ; RIGHTARROW ; RIGHTARROW ; lol
[20:55] <Galvatron> SockPants: GNOME or Unity, or something else?
[20:56] <katsrc> hey
[20:56] <sburwood1> Is there a chat room for Firefox support?
[20:56] <katsrc> is there a ubuntu version for mobile devices?
[20:56] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, which ubuntu install version ?
[20:56] <SockPants> Galvatron: probably unity, it's the latest live version
[20:56] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: Are you using IceTea, or Sun java?
[20:56] <katsrc> is it unity? or is it unity 3D?
[20:56] <katsrc> 2D*
[20:56] <tranquilwaters_> Why is the purchase section in ubuntu software centre empty for kubuntu users? Can't I buy games because I rather use KDE than gnome? Aren't the buntu
[20:56] <edugonch> Hello, I have xubuntu install and I can't use the headset, it doesn't work at all, the speakers work ok, what can I do?
[20:56] <tranquilwaters_> buntu's the same under the hood?
[20:57] <Galvatron> SockPants: Then click on the white ubuntu logo in upper left corner and type "keyboard"
[20:57] <tranquilwaters_> edugonch: maybe stupid question but does the headset have a volume button?
[20:57] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron:  Sun Java
[20:57] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: 11.04 Natty.  Kernel 2.6.38-8 Gnome 2.32.1
[20:57] <basselito> Having problem making a menu entry for a shell script... anyone?? Tried two versions in alacarte: /path/script.sh and /bin/sh /path/script.sh... what do I do wrong??
[20:57] <SockPants> Galvatron: ah, nice, got it. where is it actually located though
[20:57] <SockPants> i feel like it's a bit of a cheat
[20:57] <tranquilwaters_> edugonch: maybe it's muted, or else some hidden channel in sound mixer settings is muted?
[20:58] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: Try IceTea
[20:59] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: I ditched IceTea in 10.10 because the updates lagged behind the real world so badly.
[20:59] <Galvatron> SockPants: It's just the Unity being not as intuitive
[20:59] <clix> llutz, haha - to make the webcam work, just needs to be turned on with the fn+F6, that was easy
[20:59] <llutz> clix: :D
[20:59] <SockPants> Galvatron: k
[21:00] <llutz> clix: life can be soo easy
[21:00] <SockPants> any reason why firefox might refuse to start? live version, 1gb ram, atom n450
[21:00] <Randytravis> hi :)
[21:00] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ...there's gotta be something missing there
[21:00] <clix> ubuntu is awesome
[21:00] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: What is the adress of pastbin?
[21:00] <llutz> !paste
[21:01] <Galvatron> clix: Especially after you make it look and behave just like Mac OS :P
[21:01] <Randytravis> firefox just refused to start for me too lol i think it was cuz i downloaded the greasemonkey add on which inscripts
[21:01] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: And how do I list /etc/apt/sources.list?
[21:01] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: the latest Ubuntu on Unetbootin is 10.04.  I have the 11.04 ISO in my downloads folder.  Can/should I set the ISO to 11.04 ?  Should I use the HDMedia option?
[21:01] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: I would stil recommend trying IceTea.
[21:01] <SockPants> i just booted it... assuming stuff like that works
[21:01] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: Should I uninstall Sun Java first?
[21:02] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: the version i downloaded has 11.04 as well (scroll down?) but i had the iso already so i just used the 'iso' option at the bottom instead.
[21:02] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, alt+f2 type /etc/apt/sources.list , then copy and paste the text into pastebin
[21:02] <Randytravis> i use 10.04 i think thats the militairy version
[21:02] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: yes, so you will be sure it's not getting in the way (like removing Flash prior to trying Lightspark/Gnash)
[21:02] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: I just installed it, and I also run the package updater for good measure.  I swear it doesn't have 11.04, but it does have "Daily Live"
[21:02] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron:  Will do!
[21:03] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: there you go ... I'll just use the ISO that I have.
[21:03] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: where did you get it from=
[21:03] <alienmindtrick> Second issue:
[21:03] <alienmindtrick> I just did a fresh install of natty a couple days ago and now when i start my machine i have to log in 3 times, every time. what gives and how do i remedy it?
[21:03] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: I df/l'ed my Unetbootin from the Synaptic Package Manager
[21:03] <tauren> sometimes when my 11.04 system sits idle, it goes to a blank screen but keyboard or mouse actions do not show the login box.
[21:03] <Galvatron> Being kicked out to the login screen might mean X-server restart
[21:04] <tauren> I can ctrl-alt-F1 and get a terminal to restart system
[21:04] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: What is your video card?
[21:04] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: ah ok, i'm using it on windows and downloaded it from the website, maybe the one in the repo's is old. it might work anyway with the iso though
[21:04] <SockPants> dont see why not
[21:04] <sw0rdfish> hey guys how do I install python-software-properties in 11.04?
[21:04] <edugonch> tranquilwaters_, the headset is ok with the volume :P
[21:04] <Randytravis> tauren cause u have it on auto hibernate
[21:04] <HelloWorld123> and then what do I do with it?  boot it?
[21:04] <tauren> Randytravis: it doesn't always do this though
[21:05] <tranquilwaters_> edugonch: ok, I just thought I'd ask, that was my problem when my speakers didn't work, alsa muted some hidden channel somewhere XD
[21:05] <tauren> sometimes it gives me a login box, other times it doesn't
[21:05] <Randytravis> i know my laptop does the same thing tauren
[21:05] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: if it's done creating the usb installer it should ask you to reboot and you can boot it
[21:05] <sburwood1> brb
[21:05] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: writing now ...
[21:05] <SockPants> don't know what you were planning to use it for
[21:05] <trism> sw0rdfish: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties; is there some error?
[21:05] <HelloWorld123> it's asking!
[21:05] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: I'll reboot it
[21:05] <tauren> Randytravis: so do you turn off auto-hibernate to solve it?
[21:05] <HelloWorld123> tx
[21:05] <SockPants> np
[21:06] <sw0rdfish> yes trism, its unsatisfied with the dependency Python being 2.7.1 or whatever
[21:06] <edugonch> Well, I have all the alsa channels up
[21:06] <Randytravis> if i shut my laptop screen it will hybernate and i cant use any keys or mouse or options besides turn it off for 2 mins and restart it but if i dont shut the screen it will go to the blank screen saver
[21:06] <trism> sw0rdfish: pastebin: apt-cache policy python python-software-properties;
[21:06] <Randytravis> turn auto hibernate off and keep only the screen saver
[21:07] <virgo> How to save active sesstion in ubuntu with all the programs open, so when i next time start computer, all these programs will start automatically?
[21:07] <Monotoko> hey guys...do any of you know if Gnome3 is any good? Better than Unity?
[21:07] <tauren> Randytravis: this is a desktop system. power management says Never put to sleep on AC power, put display to sleep after 0:15
[21:07] <Noelle> what type of partition should i install ubuntu on?
[21:08] <Monotoko> Noelle, ext4
[21:08] <camille> hey does anyone know how i can close an individual program in ubuntu 11.04? when things start running very slow
[21:08] <Randytravis> hiim idk dude
[21:08] <camille> i was using ctrl+alt f1
[21:08] <Monotoko> Noelle, if you don't want Windows to be able to access it, otherwise ext3
[21:08] <tauren> Randytravis: ok, thanks
[21:08] <camille> but that shuts down just everything
[21:08] <SubKid> c
[21:08] <camille> and i have to use the command line to get back in and it is basically just a command line restart
[21:08] <camille> which is not what i want
[21:08] <Noelle> monotoko should it be primary or logical
[21:09] <Monotoko> Noelle, primary
[21:09] <camille> i feel like i have to hard restart the computer at least once a day
[21:09] <Monotoko> although I think Linux can run from Logical
[21:09] <Galvatron> Monotoko: First of all, it's still in development, so you better prepare a separate Ubuntu installation for experimenting with it. It also has a different configuration file format, so it it highly recommended to make a backup of all your configs in home folder.
[21:09] <camille> maybe since i have a netbook, i just need to be mindful not to run too many programs at once
[21:09] <wols_> Monotoko: you think right
[21:09] <demonboy_> hey guys
[21:09] <misa_> camille, CTRL+ALT+F7 gets you back into unity after killing processes in CTRL+ALT+F7
[21:09] <demonboy_> i have a uestion
[21:09] <Noelle> monotoko if i boot from a ubuntu boot disk will it create the partition for me or do i have to manually do it
[21:10] <demonboy_> question*
[21:10] <camille> misa, good tip. will try!
[21:10] <sw0rdfish> ummmm I found this; trism python-software-properties is 0.75.10.1 and python is 2.7.1 ..........how ever I just found this
[21:10] <sw0rdfish> trism, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/python-software-properties
[21:10] <sw0rdfish> I need to set that up I believe
[21:10] <Monotoko> Noelle, are you installing it alongside Windows?
[21:10] <SockPants> camille: if you right click the program icon in the bar on the left you can select 'quit', that basically closes it entirely.
[21:10] <HelloWorld123> USB drive wouldn't boot.
[21:10] <HelloWorld123> I must have a bad ISO
[21:10] <demonboy_> any1 here know about using a aircard w/ gnome?
[21:10] <camille> SockPants, sometimes that won't work
[21:10] <Noelle> monotoko no
[21:10] <sw0rdfish> trism: can you guide me through it, I just download that and do dpkg on it?
[21:10] <Monotoko> Noelle, it'll give you an option to just take the entire drive...click that and it will do the rest
[21:10] <SockPants> camille: ah. well if i want to kill an individual application i just use terminal
[21:11] <camille> SockPants, just looking for other options. what i found online was a lot of command line stuff that i don't know how to do quite uet
[21:11] <Noelle> monotoko thanks
[21:11] <trism> sw0rdfish: the reason I wanted policy was not for the version, but for the repos from which the packages come from
[21:11] <wols_> sw0rdfish: pastebin the real output of  sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[21:11] <mikubuntu> my friend just downloaded natty, and says his mouse won't open/launch anything.  is there some known issue?
[21:11] <wols_> !info python
[21:11] <camille> SockPants, that;s the question. when the computer is running deadly slow, how to get to terminal and kill that individual program
[21:11] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron:  Sorry for the delay. Integrated graphics card.
[21:11] <Monotoko> Galvatron, I will install it in a VM....see if it works
[21:11] <camille> SockPants, I guess I need to noodle with the program a bit more. still fairly new
[21:11] <demonboy_> does any1 know about bus cards in gnome?
[21:12] <wols_> demonboy_: ask your real question
[21:12] <demonboy_> i mean aircards
[21:12] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: Fact. Sorry, I'm a bit sleepy.
[21:12] <sw0rdfish> ok i'll pastebin the apt-cache policy on both of them trism :)
[21:12] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: 'S OK, I'm always slow...  ;-)
[21:12] <katsrc> hey, Ubuntu server, does it have any proprietary software?
[21:12] <fortiss> does anyone know of a lock screen similar to an iphone for ubuntu?
[21:13] <demonboy_> i use a linux distro and it sees the sierra wireless driver when i use command: # usb-devices   but idk how to get it to connect
[21:13] <wols_> fortiss: xlock?
[21:13] <Galvatron> Galvatron: In this case I would even more strongly recommend trinx Xorg-edgers and Drm-next Intel kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[21:13] <dougmencken> hi, I need some help; I de-installed english lang via GUI, now I got a lot of "???"
[21:13] <misa_> @camille Do you know how to kill processes in ctrl+alt+f1?
[21:13] <wols_> demonboy_: usually wvdial
[21:13] <io> will removing the .Trash folder solve most problems with Trash not emptying via the menu?
[21:13] <dougmencken> how to get it back via apt-get install?
[21:13] <io> or is this a good suggestion?
[21:13] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: In this case I would even more strongly recommend trinx Xorg-edgers and Drm-next Intel kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[21:13] <camille> misa_, no. all i know is that i do sudo service gdm restart
[21:13] <camille> misa_, :(
[21:13] <wols_> dougmencken: you cannot deinstall "english lang" (sic)
[21:14] <demonboy_> thnaks
[21:14] <wols_> !pm > fortiss
[21:14] <sw0rdfish> trism: http://pastebin.com/pderTtx0
[21:14] <camille> misa_, that was something i figured out through guess and test method
[21:14] <camille> misa_, i believe there is a better way
[21:14] <dougmencken> wols_: <wols_> dougmencken: you cannot deinstall "english lang" (sic)
[21:14] <camille> misa_, feel free to lead me there
[21:14] <wols_> camille: yes. man ps, man killall
[21:14] <jimmy51_> !ot
[21:14] <demonboy_> will # sudo apt-get install wvdial install it?
[21:14] <dougmencken> wols_: oops, sorry: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/37679705.png/
[21:14] <wols_> demonboy_: sure but it won't configure it
[21:15] <demonboy_> lol
[21:15] <dougmencken> wols_: that's a screenshot of what I do have now
[21:15] <misa_> Camille, it's easy. For example, if firefox is slow, press ctrl+alt+f1, log in and type "killall firefox", then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back into unity. You're done.
[21:15] <demonboy_> will it put it in the drop down menu
[21:15] <jlholmes21> hi all
[21:15] <wols_> !locale
[21:16] <wols_> dougmencken: ^^
[21:16] <trism> sw0rdfish: I see, you are on lucid, but are just using the python version from natty, that is probably not the greatest idea
[21:16] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron:  OK, that was absolutely greek to me.
[21:17] <sw0rdfish> trism I believe I'm on Natty Narwal
[21:17] <sw0rdfish> thats the what the message said when I logged in via ssh trism
[21:17] <sw0rdfish> well isn't there a way to make sure?
[21:17] <el_seano> sw0rdfish: you can confirm by typing `lsb_release -a` into a terminal
[21:17] <demonboy_> ty for ur help wols yal are more helpful than the official BT irc chat
[21:17] <demonboy_> all they say is go to google
[21:18] <improveupon> can anyone recommend a p2p client program available in the repositories other than mldonkey or one strictly for torrents?
[21:18] <demonboy_> even though i have tried to find it
[21:18] <sw0rdfish> yep el_seano, trism, its been confirmed ---> Description:	Ubuntu 11.04
[21:18] <trism> sw0rdfish: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list, because policy has lucid repos
[21:19] <sw0rdfish> hmm ok
[21:19] <guntbert> !trash | io
[21:19] <wols_> demonboy_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[21:19] <wols_> !torrent > improveupon
[21:19] <io> guntbert: if the Trash doesn't empty via the GUI it is a good idea to remove the folder via Terminal?
[21:20] <wols_> io: no
[21:20] <io> wols_: then what is the solution? I'm not, or have never experienced this issue - it is for a friend
[21:20] <io> I work via Terminal constantly, so 'rm' has always been my friend :-)
[21:20] <Noelle> Installing 11.04 as we speak... Windows XP and Vista failed to install on this machine so we'll see the outcome
[21:21] <guntbert> io: remove the content of that directory via terminal
[21:21] <osmosis> what can i use to check my current eth0 tx rx rate?
[21:21] <improveupon> !P2P
[21:21] <wols_> io: you can rm files, but don't rm directories
[21:21] <improveupon> sorry
[21:21] <fortiss> I have a linux box running a web app in chrome in full screen mode. I need a lock screen that will unlock from touches on the screen not from a keyboard. Something similar to an iphone. The lock screen is not for seciruty is just to make sure buttons on the web app are not pushed without knowing it. Thanks in advance for the help
[21:21] <wols_> osmosis: iptraf
[21:21] <io> wols_: ok, so if you remove the directory then Ubuntu won't re-create it?
[21:22] <HelloWorld123> I'm downloading a new ISO for my USB install (It says it'll take about a half hour).  Is there anything I need to check on my USB stick?  Like I notice that it came pre-formatted with vFAT.  Is vFAT okay?  Should I clean the partitions of my USB stick if the ISOs aren't booting?
[21:22] <jlholmes21> yes helloworld123 you should
[21:23] <osmosis> wols_, thx
[21:23] <sw0rdfish> sorry this took so long trism: http://pastebin.com/hUrTuTCf
[21:23] <guntbert> !md5sum | HelloWorld123 check it!
[21:23] <sw0rdfish> trism: but yeah I can tell its all using Lucid!
[21:23] <blz> HelloWorld123, normally the flash installer will format the medium appropriately, so you shouldn't have to worry about anything
[21:23] <dougmencken> thx4all
[21:23] <dougmencken> see oyu
[21:23] <jduke128> ee
[21:24] <Noelle> Does anyone know of any desktop wireless cards that are compatible with Ubuntu 11.04?
[21:24] <improveupon> sorry but if a person tells you "see !P2P", how exactly do you do that? is that on some faq?
[21:24] <wols_> improveupon: /msg ubottu p2p
[21:24] <fortiss> Helloworld123, I recently tried to install ubuntu on a usb stick but it just installs the live version. If that not what you want you CAN run ubuntu directly from the usb stick by booting from a live cd/usb stick and installing to the usb stick as you would a HDD
[21:24] <improveupon> thank you
[21:24] <HelloWorld123> !p2p (for example) :
[21:24] <blkdg> hi, how do i upgrade a package where the software centre's version is a bit behind the developers.  Calibre - specifically....
[21:24] <guntbert> !askthebot | improveupon
[21:24] <misa_> Noelle, would USB wireless dongles do?
[21:24] <wols_> HelloWorld123: no, NOT !p2p. you don't want to spam the channel
[21:25] <tranquilwaters_> Noelle I used a SMC usb wlan unit, and it worked out of the box :-) not sure which type exactly, but it claimed to support linux on their website
[21:25] <trism> sw0rdfish: not sure why the system indicates natty, that isn't a stock sources.list though, anyway, easiest fix is probably to revert to the lucid python: sudo apt-get install python=2.6.5-0ubuntu1; then python-software-properties should install
[21:25] <Noelle> misa_ yeah, that would be fine
[21:25] <trism> sw0rdfish: unless of course there are deeper problems
[21:25] <fortiss> anyone know of an iphone like swipe to unlock app for ubuntu?
[21:26] <misa_> Noelle, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[21:26] <Noelle> tranquilwaters_ do you have a link to their site?
[21:26] <sw0rdfish> I don't think there are trism
[21:26] <tranquilwaters_> Noelle: I think it's SMC SMCWUSB EZCONNECT
[21:26] <tranquilwaters_> Noelle: smc.com
[21:26] <Noelle> misa_ tranquilwaters_ thanks
[21:26] <sw0rdfish> thanks trism, and hey installing it like that will remove the current version of python and install that one?
[21:27] <tranquilwaters_> it's a white usb stick, but I am not sure if they have types that don't work. I just remember that mine had a linux support claim on the product website and that it worked right away
[21:27] <trism> sw0rdfish: yes
[21:27] <sw0rdfish> cool
[21:27] <sw0rdfish> thanks trism :)
[21:27] <trism> sw0rdfish: you're welcome
[21:27] <wols_> trism: that python there is there for a reason. just downgrading won't work, since well, downgrading doesn't work and is not supported
[21:28] <blkdg> thanks anyhow
[21:28] <trism> wols_: he has lucid repos, the natty python is there, but it has no repo, that command just reverts to the version for the repos he has
[21:29] <wols_> trism: and besides from this little python problem, mixing different versions is a quick way to disaster. by getting python, his libc6 is now natty too, etc
[21:29] <FoxWolf> Just downloaded ubuntu 11.04, I can't get wireless to work (at all). That's on a WPA network, WPA 2 Enterprise Network (AES), and a open unsecured network. Any ideas on what to try? Plugging in through ethernet works fine.
[21:30] <wols_> FoxWolf: what chip?
[21:30] <FoxWolf> Intel i5
[21:30] <Galvatron> FoxWolf: Chhose the one with a security protocol your router uses
[21:30] <sw0rdfish> this is all to install nginx anyways haha
[21:30] <Gaming4JC> Noob question, how do I make "vncserver :1" run as a command at boot? :P
[21:31] <sw0rdfish> it needs to use add-apt-repository ppa....etc
[21:31] <trism> sw0rdfish: were there any issues installing the older python version? did it try to change any other packages?
[21:31] <wols_> !fino nginx
[21:31] <abys> hey, I've got a probleme with my laptop, it's a brand new xps 15z from dell and there is some drivers still not compatible in the current kernel. The trakpad and keyboard are not working so I use a usb one, how during my few attemps to mess with the install I always had my wireless working until I disable the bluetooth which disable the wireless too...since then there is no way I can get it back, even after a full format, reinstall still disable. Th
[21:31] <wols_> !find nginx
[21:31] <abys> e laptop doesn't have a wireless button, I have to use the laptop keyboard which is not working... could someone help me? :)
[21:31] <wols_> !info nginx
[21:31] <wols_> sw0rdfish: there. nothing more needed
[21:31] <sw0rdfish> well trism its a vps a friend made for me, actually when I did apt-get install python perl
[21:31] <sw0rdfish> both of them were installed
[21:32] <wols_> abys: rfkill
[21:32] <Giant81_> they are both suposed to be installed
[21:32] <sw0rdfish> wow nginx is soo small
[21:32] <sw0rdfish> its amazing
[21:32] <sw0rdfish> 80kb haha
[21:32] <Giant81_> apt-get install python perl i sthe syntax to install python and perl
[21:32] <wols_> Giant81_: depends on the ubuntu version what version of perl and python...
[21:32] <sw0rdfish> I know Giant81_
[21:33] <Giant81_> I figured, but I just saw the one comment, sorry should scroll up more
[21:33] <sw0rdfish> well hey I'm trying to install a version of nginx that JUST came out 20 days ago
[21:33] <sw0rdfish> maybe I should stick with the one in the repos from December 2010
[21:34] <abys> wols_:  0: dell-wifi : wireless lan, softbloked yes, hard blocked : yes     2: phy0: wireless LAN : Soft blocked  : no, hard blocked : yes
[21:34] <wols_> is there any reason why it has to be bleeding edge?
[21:34] <wols_> abys: and that's how you can unblock them again (usually)
[21:35] <abys> wols_:  ho, ok I look at the command
[21:35] <Happy> anyone have idea why my wireless worked fine in livecd and after installation ubuntu can't recognise my wireless card?
[21:35] <wols_> Happy: what does your kernel say? what does iwconfig say?
[21:36] <Happy> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[21:36] <wols_> why is it always broadcom? *sigh*
[21:36] <Happy> I know that I had to get the latest kernel on archlinux to get it work
[21:36] <noo> Hello.I'm trying to setup tor with vidalia on my ubuntu 10.10, but somehow I can't get it working it seems, because I start it and it's fine and no errors appear, but when I check my location through the browser he still knows exactly who I am. Does anybody know how to properly setup vidalia on ubuntu?
[21:36] <wols_> 4313 is a very old card IIRC
[21:37] <wols_> noo: proxy set?
[21:37] <Happy> but It's confusing since wireless worked during installation
[21:37] <Happy> nope
[21:37] <Happy> fresh install
[21:37] <abys> wols_: doesn't seems to work...
[21:37] <noo> wols_ what do you mean?
[21:37] <wols_> !doesn't work
[21:37] <Happy> iwconfig doesn't see my card
[21:38] <wols_> noo: inside firefox, is the proxy config set up?
[21:38] <wols_> Happy: then check your kernel output
[21:38] <noo> wols_ can't I make it systemwide? I'm using chrome.
[21:38] <wols_> noo: no
[21:38] <Rakke> fal
[21:38] <lafon> why do ati graphics cards kill my system>
[21:39] <wols_> well, maybe with a transparent mandatory proxy. outside the scope of this here, but you can easily google it
[21:39] <abys> wols_: the command doesn't have any effect, the status is the same
[21:39] <shingen> lol... I have a 56GB .xsession-errors file
[21:39] <wols_> abys: WHICH command?
[21:39] <Happy> what am I supposed to see in kernel output
[21:39] <shingen> that ate up my home partition :P
[21:39] <noo> wols_ ok how do I setup the tor network for chrome then and what exactly does it then what a plugin wouldn't do?
[21:39] <wols_> Happy: output from your wlan card driver. or even the lack of it
[21:39] <abys> wols_: rfkill unblock 0
[21:39] <Rakke> it wont take belgium ayerti keiboard laiout
[21:40] <wols_> noo: what do you talk about plugins? and I dunno how to set up proxies in chrome
[21:40] <wols_> abys: hence why I qualified it with "usually" :(
[21:40] <soapie> noo: it would be better to use the browser bundle
[21:40] <sw0rdfish> hey guys whats the difference between tryin to install, nginx for example, via apt-get install and just grabbing the .tar.gz file and extracting the source to a dir. and doing './configure' then 'make' then 'sudo make install' ...... as it says in http://wiki.nginx.org/Install
[21:41] <soapie> you're not going to secure chrome
[21:41] <Happy> I see nothing in dmesg
[21:41] <Happy> no wireless interface
[21:41] <Happy> no nothing -.-
[21:41] <Galvatron> sw0rdfish: Apt should be faster
[21:41] <abys> wols_: too bad :/ anything else I could check?
[21:41] <sw0rdfish> Galvatron, lol, thats all?
[21:41] <wols_> sw0rdfish: the difference is, the 2nd way breaks your ubuntu real quick and makes ubuntu obsolete. if you want to do it like that fine, but then you don't want to run ubuntu but something like linux from scratch or such
[21:42] <sw0rdfish> :o I see.
[21:42] <david_> can anyone let afew minutes to clear up a samba issue?
[21:42] <Noobneedhalp> I need help mounting a Drobo in Fstab permenantly so that is it accessible in shares please guys?
[21:42] <david_> what's a Drobo?
[21:42] <Galvatron> sw0rdfish: In compilatio you might probably add some flags to gain certain results
[21:42] <wols_> sw0rdfish: ever tried to remove software installed via "make install"? then you know why you want everything in .debs. and when you ever have experienced a broken PPA package (most of them are), then you know why you don't want to use PPAs
[21:42] <Noobneedhalp> david_, Data robot
[21:43] <lafon> external HDD system
[21:43] <tim167> hello, my soundcard stopped working all of a sudden here, (tried alsamixer, vlc, jack,pasuspender, youtube videos...) I'm afraid the soundcard is broken...any tips on how to find out?
[21:43] <wols_> david_: a NAS device. google it, you will get hits. why haven't you googled it already instead of asking?
[21:44] <Galvatron> sw0rdfish: What I don't like abou compilation is that sometimes you must download tens/hundreds of megs of dependencies, and after some time your system looks wors than a city dump
[21:44] <sw0rdfish> haha
[21:44] <wols_> Galvatron: build-dep is nice
[21:44] <sw0rdfish> nice one, 'city dump'
[21:45] <wols_> !pm > david_
[21:45] <Galvatron> wols_: I know
[21:45] <lafon> After realizing my system wasn't equiped to handle unity for 11.04 i installed an ati graphics card i had
[21:45] <fortiss> I'm running a web app on a ubuntu box and need a simple lock screen that acts like an iphone swipe to unlock lock screen. Its only to make sure if people were to brush up against it it wouldnt press buttons on the web app and that all buttons press on the web app are delibrate. It is a touchscreen with no KB. Any ideas?
[21:45] <lafon> but after that the computer wouldnt start up
[21:46] <burg> how can i use times new roman in a libreoffice document? on ubuntu 11.04 -- i`ve installed microsoft core fonts, but i still can`t see times new roman in font list in libre office writer
[21:46] <lafon> so i took it out and it worked again. this happened to 2 different models of cards
[21:46] <Galvatron> sw0rdfish: That's why I almost always copy the dependency list, so I can remove them afterwards
[21:46] <david_> wow I can't even see through the elitism-mist
[21:47] <wols_> lafon: how far did it get?
[21:48] <lafon> sometimes to grub
[21:48] <BluesKaj> david_, what mist.?..all will be clear if you just ask :)
[21:49] <lafon> sometimes to grub cli
[21:49] <wols_> lafon: that sounds like broken hardware. very broken
[21:49] <lafon> mboard or card?
[21:49] <claviusmond> please paste a link to any emulator channel, Im using gens/gs
[21:49] <wols_> grub has pretty much nothing to do with videocards, as long as there is a vesa mode to use
[21:50] <lafon> what i mean is that the comp will boot
[21:50] <lafon> get to said stage then restart
[21:50] <lafon> only happens with non-integrated cards
[21:50] <wols_> hardware. since it happens with addition of videocard, it's probably that card
[21:50] <wols_> possibly PCI-E 16x slot
[21:51] <lafon> but I tried 2 cards
[21:51] <lafon> oh
[21:51] <lafon> maybe. ill try moving my hdd and card over to a different mboard and see if that works
[21:51] <wols_> maybe your video cards don't get enough power
[21:52] <wols_> it definitely is no ubuntu problem if it can't get to grub tho
[21:52] <lafon> one video card needs external power the other not. so probably not
[21:53] <lafon> I'll try my "solution". if that doesnt work i can always complain to...someone. :P
[21:53] <sw0rdfish> !.deb
[21:53] <hase> Hello, I am wondering if I was to change my external harddrive from fat32 to ntfs to get past the 3.8 gig limit of data transfer would I lose the data on the external hdd
[21:53] <sw0rdfish> uhhhh what about cli
[21:54] <BluesKaj> lafon, you might consider the aleternate install if you have HW probs with a rekular install
[21:54] <sw0rdfish> nvm
[21:54] <misa_> hase, yes definitely
[21:54] <trism> sw0rdfish: did you get everything working with python-software-properties? after rethinking it, I agree with wols_, even though you have the lucid repos, the command I gave is probably a very bad idea without further investigation
[21:54] <boomboorum> Hi guys, does anybody which distro is using telepathy gabble as default app
[21:54] <sw0rdfish> hehe
[21:54] <hase> dang, ok thank you misa, not sure what I'll do now, lol
[21:55] <sw0rdfish> yeah I also checked on libc6 it actually is natty
[21:55] <gogi112> h1 there
[21:55] <misa_> hase, just back the data up somewhere, format to ntfs, put the data back in. That should do.
[21:55] <lafon> BluesKaj, I'd rather just get a different m'board. its too much hassle to get dial-up working again
[21:55] <nnull> jeanie says hi
[21:56] <sw0rdfish> well i'm about to install it from the .deb file
[21:56] <BluesKaj> lafon, mobo change , doubtful that will help
[21:56] <lafon> Blueskaj, Why?
[21:57] <BluesKaj> you'll have to reinstall due to HW changes, lafon
[21:57] <trism> sw0rdfish: probably the safest bet, although you should probably ask whoever set up the VPS why you have natty packages but lucid repos
[21:57] <tripelb> basic help. i go places, computer. then how "open in new tab" open in new window"?  - I've tried r-click and shot|cont|windowskey|alt-click. Isn't it possible?
[21:57] <tripelb> shot>>shift
[21:57] <sw0rdfish> he's not responding
[21:58] <lafon> not really a problem. i have some really wierd stuff on my edition of ubuntu
[21:59] <BluesKaj> lafon, well good luck , but keep the alternate in mind
[21:59] <misa_> boomboorum, isn't gabble a protocol, not app?
[21:59] <rethus> i have a sony laptop. FN + F1-F3 works for mute, decrease and increase loudness.
[21:59] <rethus> but brightness didn't work
[21:59] <rethus> where can i adjust this
[22:00] <rethus> spicctrl on command line works
[22:00] <sw0rdfish> trism do you think I should wait till he responds to me lol
[22:00] <sw0rdfish> which one do i choose here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/python-software-properties
[22:00] <lafon> BluesKaj, thanks and I'll see. i just don't relish the idea of killing my phone for a week just to get a videocard to work 'cause i want to watch a movie or play a game
[22:00] <boomboorum> misa_: I don't really know
[22:00] <__fish__> hm weird - my additonal nvidia driver says that it's activated but "not in use" *confused*
[22:01] <__fish__> is that normal?
[22:01] <boomboorum> misa_:  I guess not https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-gabble
[22:01] <Noobneedhalp> I need help mounting a Drobo in Fstab permenantly so that is it accessible in shares please guys. Any ideas?
[22:02] <knxville> Hi guys.. Do you also find that Ubuntu generally have a lower resolution or something like that, than a windows machine.
[22:03] <lafon> it does if you have a crt monitor. No im not that old
[22:03] <knxville> Perhaps it's just gnome, but everything is pretty damn bold.. Even Eclipse..
[22:03] <knxville> lafon, i have a quite new laptop.. dont think that's the issue..
[22:03] <misa_> boomboorum, gabble is just a way for Empathy to communicate with Jabber accounts. It's not an app in itself.
[22:04] <lafon> knxville, is that every time you login?
[22:04] <distressed_dude> Hey! I came here because I need some help with installing maverick. Can anyone help me?
[22:04] <boomboorum> misa_:  oh, thanks for clarification
[22:04] <knxville> lafon, yeah.. forever and always.. I just find everything so "big"..
[22:04] <lafon> knxville,check that the font is the one you like
[22:05] <knxville> lafon, im running ubuntu with 1280x800
[22:05] <lafon> Distressed_dude, elaborate please
[22:06] <shingen> so is having your .xsession.errors file blow up until your hdd is full a normal occurance?
[22:06] <velofille> shingen, nope
[22:06] <velofille> shingen, what is it filled with? some error ? or just debugging ?
[22:06] <wols_> shingen: no. as the name implies: errors
[22:06] <lafon> knxville, what i meant is that (as an example only) say that the font that all title bars on your windows will be comicsans
[22:07] <distressed_dude> @lafon When trying to install (partition stage) it freezes. When I try to repartition it through live mode, I get "Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: In part_create_partition_table: device_file=/dev/sda, scheme=0 got it got disk committed to disk BLKRRPART ioctl failed for /dev/sda: Device or resource busy"
[22:07] <knxville> lafon, yeah.. im using monospace size 8 now.. its way better..
[22:07] <fortiss> anyone know how to get an onscreen keyboard working for the lock screen?
[22:08] <shingen> velofille:  my machine was already crawling like a snail when my low hdd space warning came up, didn't have a chance to check... deleted the file, but since it was an open file handle, the space wasn't released, so I had to shut down my open apps and reboot to reclaim the space....
[22:08] <misa_> distressed_dude, are you trying to use some special partition setup?
[22:08] <shingen> wols_: that's a great help there, thanks!
[22:08] <lafon> distressed_dude, almost sounds like the disk is mounted
[22:08] <wols_> shingen: not exactly. and: you could have just closed X
[22:08] <velofille> shingen, restarting X will release the space probably, keep an eye on it and see whats filling it up from now on
[22:09] <distressed_dude> @misa_ no, just trying to erase the entire disk
[22:09] <shingen> wols_: if my hdd is full and I kill X and all the apps in it, I lose all my work... not the best way to help
[22:09] <misa_> distressed_dude, are you installing from cd or usb?
[22:09] <velofille> shingen, yeah but X was keeping the log file open in the first place
[22:10] <distressed_dude> @misa_ dvd
[22:10] <RoMar> dose anyone know how to setup a main dual boot on a external hard drive?
[22:10] <lafon> distressed_dude, if you don't want anything from it mount it externally to another computer and reformat then install
[22:10] <velofille> shingen, the other option is apt-get clean to clean out all old packages, giving enough space to save your work and restart X
[22:10] <wols_> shingen: next time run apt-get clean instead or delete *.gz in /var/log
[22:10] <shingen> velofille: right, but the machine was crawling already, I had critical work to save and trying to figure out what's wrong was not the best way to go
[22:10] <shingen> guys, this is a brand new install less than 1 day old
[22:10] <velofille> shingen, did you learn to autosave ? :)
[22:10] <shingen> I have no old packages...
[22:11] <velofille> in any case, tail -f the file
[22:11] <shingen> velofille: if my machine has no space, will it autosave? :P
[22:11] <velofille> find the error, post it into google :D
[22:11] <velofille> nah but it means you loose less when things break :)
[22:12] <misa_> distressed_dude, you could also try a gparted live iso
[22:12] <velofille> shingen, so you're on it now? tailing log?
[22:12] <distressed_dude> @misa_ Tried that many a moon ago. Doesn't work.
[22:13] <tripelb> I'd like some basic help. i click on Places, Computer to get a Nautilus file browser window (actually I use the Computer icon I put on my panel, next to the Username icon, and the Desktop icon). then how do I "open in new tab" or "open in new window"?  - I've tried r-click and I've tried all of the following combinations, shift|cntl|windowskey|alt-click. Isn't it possible?
[22:13] <shingen> velofille: yeah, but when it happens it happens fast, so there is no point in watching it....
[22:14] <tripelb> And when something labeled 31 G filesystem opens it has this long number of a name. Can I rename the volume?
[22:14] <lafon> tripelb, ctrl+t opens new tab
[22:14] <biggerfisch> so... I have a problem. on my ubuntu server, cron jobs don't seem to run anymore. I didn't make any changes, as far as I know, but none of my backup jobs seem to run. Any ideas?
[22:14] <edbian> tripelb: You cannot open  new tab from the place menu because you don't have a nautilus window open yet.  Once it is open you can right click to open folders in a new tab.
[22:14] <shingen> velofille: I just have to keep Virtualbox and Remmina up and do some web browsing to replicate... I've seen this a couple of times before using other distros based off 11.04, so it's definitely an 11.04 issue, but saving my virtubalbox state is the most important thing before finding the problem, as worse comes to worse, I drop ubuntu and try another distro
[22:15] <xperia> hello to all i have a netopia 3342 usb modem. All Leds do blink when i connect it to the Ubuntu Box but i dont see any possibility how to use it to make a internet connection. Can anybody help me ?
[22:15] <velofille> shingen, the fact that its virtualbox may be an issue, it could be related to the 3d required of unity in a virtual enviroment or similr
[22:15] <xperia> good will be if i had it at least in the ifconfig list but i dont see it there
[22:16] <lafon> xperia, ubuntu finds the modem
[22:16] <tripelb> edbian, what kind of window did I open? It looks like a nautilus window. I'm not right tabbing from the menu but from the window that came when I clicked on (my)Computer.
[22:16] <shingen> velofille: could be remmina too... I saw this on my laptop while running pinguyos (11.04 based), which I don't run vbox on...
[22:16] <xperia> lafon yes if i do lsusb it show it
[22:16] <tripelb> edbian, it is nautilus. I looked at about
[22:16] <edbian> tripelb: If you click on anything in places it opens a nautilus windows
[22:17] <xperia> i just need now somehow to make a internet connection to this usb modem in ubuntu
[22:18] <tripelb> edbian, yes. I'm not near that basic. I want to open something in a new tab. this isnt the soert of thing that should be difficult. or to open it in a new window. I am looking at a set of drives.
[22:18] <tripelb> xperia modems plug into your internet source usually. Is it a wireless adaptor for receiving wireless?
[22:19] <G00053> xperia: you need this driver http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/driver.shtml
[22:19] <tripelb> xperia, and modems plug into your dsl or cable or phone line
[22:19] <xperia> tripelb no its simple wired analog modem
[22:19] <tripelb> xperia, well there you are, I didnt know.
[22:20] <xperia> G00053 thanks will try it !
[22:20] <tripelb> If I have more than one partition on this drive, will it show in "my computer? How do I see it? Must I use gparted?
[22:22] <coz_> tripelb,  it should not effect the speed of the system at all
[22:22] <coz_> tripelb,  if you are installing ubuntu you can direct it to one of  the partitions for install
[22:23] <tripelb> coz_, nothing *I* said was about speed of the system. (I'm in a parallel world) -- no I'm not installing ubuntu. I just want to be aware of my drives. Actually I want to copy what's on my other drives to my "big drive"
[22:24] <coz_> tripelb,  ah I see ,, sorry , I misunderstood
[22:24] <tripelb> I cant tel what's happening because all the partitions look like a windows file system or an ubuntu file system and I cant tell them apart when I open them. I want to name them. Howto?
[22:24] <tripelb> coz_,  NP I've done that lots.
[22:25] <tripelb> coz_, earlier today I was asked what my native language is. Hows that for feeling alienating. They think I'm stranger than American.
[22:25] <DAC486> hola alguien podria ayudarme como conectar x wifi mi ubuntu
[22:25] <G00053> tripelb: try this out for renaming drives/ partitions
[22:25] <G00053> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[22:25] <bhuey> what's the program that you can launch to install ubuntu on another hard drive
[22:25] <bhuey> ?
[22:25] <coz_> #ubuntu-es
[22:25] <knxville> How do I change the order of the icons in the unity launcher?
[22:25] <arand> !es | DAC486
[22:25] <JessicaRN> hey all, i have a very old laptop that will only boot the live cd for 8.1.  I want to use 8.1 to clone/resize the HD in that laptop to a 2nd HD attached via USB.  What's a good util to accomplish this?
[22:26] <trism> knxville: you can drag them around, but you need to drag them off the launcher first, don't let go, and drag it someplace else
[22:27] <knxville> trism, kool...
[22:27] <HelloWorld123> my <uname -m> says "x86_64", so I'm running 64 bit now.    Is there any reason that the 64-bit installer ISO wouldn't boot from a USB stick ?
[22:28] <knxville> Do you know why the menu is all messy when I press Superkey, it only shows media, internet, more apps.. not the last one.. or a little part of the last one.
[22:28] <knxville> I've just changed my fonts..
[22:29] <distressed_dude> To anyone: I still kinda need help after misa_ kinda timed out
[22:29] <lafon> sorry what happened distressed-dude
[22:30] <biggerfisch> dos anyone know why my cron jobs refuse to run, or even output an error?
[22:30] <xperia> G00053: i just looked with "modprobe -l" for the "usbatm" driver you told me and i see it is listed as loaded. rebooted now my ubuntu mashine but still dont see the modem connection in ifconfig. is it something else additional needed ?
[22:30] <distressed_dude> @lafon: I'm trying to install Maverick 32-bit from a DVD (using CD iso) but I can't because I can't repartition/erase/add partition on my disk.
[22:31] <knxville> Can I somehow make Unity auto hide?
[22:31] <abc123zyx> n
[22:31] <the_file> rm -r unity
[22:31] <abc123zyx> lol
[22:31] <lafon> distressed_dude, what did you use aside from gparted
[22:31] <JessicaRN> hey all, i have a very old laptop that will only boot the live cd for 8.1.  I want to use 8.1 to clone/resize the HD in that laptop to a 2nd HD attached via USB.  What's a good util to accomplish this?
[22:31] <the_file> rm /dev/sd*
[22:32] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: use gparted, it can resize, look into it, should clone too
[22:32] <JessicaRN> abc: will it copy any partition type?
[22:32] <the_file> is udisk a directory or a file
[22:32] <the_file> there it is good
[22:32] <distressed_dude> JessicaRN: There's also a dedicated GParted live disc
[22:33] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: actually if you want to clone, use clonezilla livecd, gparted probably won't do cloning
[22:33] <JessicaRN> distressed: you have a link for it?
[22:33] <JessicaRN> clonezilla live cd?  cool.  Link?
[22:33] <tripelb> GOOO53 your nick is not tab-completing so I have it wrong.  g00053 both ways. or you are gone. Yes I want to rename drives/partitions but these are Hard Drives, one is sata and the other 2 are IDE.
[22:34] <crubb> hey, can i tell do-release-upgrade to use karmic? I'm trying to go from jaunty to lucid, but i seem to upgrade to karmic first
[22:34] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[22:34] <JessicaRN> HUGS!
[22:34] <distressed_dude> JessicaRN: clonezilla.org
[22:34] <JessicaRN> should I get the ISOBOOT or the GRUB boot?  Any diff?
[22:34] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: you can find everything with a google search - but here http://clonezilla.org/downloads.php
[22:35] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: both should work, go with grub if you want
[22:35] <distressed_dude> JessicaRN: I'm guessing ISOBOOT
[22:35] <abc123zyx> distressed_dude: both will work it's just the bootup manager
[22:36] <JessicaRN> again, hugs to both of you!  TYVM
[22:36] <lafon> distressed_dude, do you want to keep anything on your current HDD?
[22:37] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: no problem, you need to burn these on cds and run them before your computer starts, gparted will resize and clonezilla will clone the drive, look into gparted might have option of cloning, not too sure though, if not use clonezilla
[22:37] <distressed_dude> By the way, how in the world do I fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/630045/
[22:38] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: what kind of format drive are you trying to clone?
[22:41] <distressed_dude> I. Can't. Partition. My. Drive. Help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/630045/
[22:43] <wildgoose> !patience | distressed_dude
[22:43] <shingen> distressed_dude: are you trying to  partition a drive in use?
[22:43] <abc123zyx> distressed_dude: is the drive mounted?
[22:44] <distressed_dude> @shingen: Um, if you mean by am I running anything from it then no.
[22:44] <shingen> distressed_dude: did you boot the operating system on it?
[22:45] <distressed_dude> @shingen running through a live disc @abc123zyx I can't even right click it to unmount it.
[22:46] <shingen> distressed_dude: try cli?  type 'mount' and you'll see all the devices that are mounted... if you see /dev/sdXX mounted, that's one of your hdds... unmount /dev/sdXX
[22:47] <p_res> you don't need to unmount optical media first. just use eject command
[22:48] <claviusmond> i need to open a file, via terminal, that has spaces in in, how do I substitute the spaces with? _ doesnt work
[22:48] <claviusmond> im using an emulator to pley lion king
[22:48] <Castatroy> please what command can use to get installation path and directories for packages
[22:48] <distressed_dude> @shingen: "none on /dev/"
[22:48] <shingen> distressed_dude: that's umount /dev/sdXX
[22:48] <shingen> distressed_dude: pastebin your output of mount
[22:49] <wildgoose> claviusmond, Try putting quotes around the file /home/games/"Lion King"
[22:49] <abc123zyx> claviusmond: you would just put it in parenthesis
[22:49] <claviusmond> thx wild
[22:49] <distressed_dude> @shingen http://paste.ubuntu.com/630047/
[22:50] <abc123zyx> claviusmond: you can put it around teh whole thing uf you want too "/home/games/Lion King/"
[22:50] <Castatroy> what is the equivalent of rpm -ql on ubuntu
[22:50] <abc123zyx> Castatroy: what does that do?
[22:50] <tripelb> in order to add a directory to a disk I am not booted or logged as I understand it I must sudo from terminal. I dont know the pathname to the disk, then the user directory would be /home/username/ so I can put the directory in there. But the path?? please help
[22:51] <Castatroy> abc123zyx: it lists all the installation paths for a package
[22:52] <abc123zyx> Castatroy: i could tell you if i knew what it did
[22:52] <shingen> distressed_dude: you're not gonna like this... but this forum article pretty much says that your drive is failing....   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1768523.html
[22:52] <Castatroy> abc123zyx: it lists all the installation paths for a package
[22:52] <trism> Castatroy: possibly: dpkg -L package_name; if I understand you correctly
[22:53] <tripelb> in order to add a directory to a disk I am not booted or logged as I understand it I must sudo from terminal. I dont know the pathname to the disk, then the user directory would be /home/username/ so I can put the directory in there. But the path?? please help -- I cant go back of my filesystem with terminal
[22:53] <coco> what chanel should i go to for setting up network file systems
[22:53] <distressed_dude> @shingen NOOOOOOOOOOOO- Oh well, this is a pretty old laptop anyways. Was just trying to find a second use for it.
[22:53] <shingen> distressed_dude: could always buy a new hdd
[22:54] <tripelb> I need to copy everything from these old drives to my current drive. I need to make a folder-as a label so I can tell WHICH drive I am in.
[22:54] <trism> Castatroy: if you mean for an actual .deb package: dpkg-deb -c filename.deb;
[22:54] <distressed_dude> @shingen I'm not investing on this piece of crap... It does bug me though, smart data is ok.
[22:54] <soothsayer> I created a new user on Natty and overwrote the home directory with one from Maverick. Metacity doesn't work anymore. How do I get it working or switch to unity?
[22:54] <distressed_dude> well, good night folks!
[22:54] <Castatroy> oh ok
[22:55] <wasanzy> Please what is the mysql command to delete a database
[22:55]  * GatekeeperZA farts
[22:55] <tonyyarusso> wasanzy: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/drop-database.html
[22:55] <soothsayer> wasanzy: dropt table
[22:56] <soothsayer> wasanzy: Sorry, that's for a table, not db
[22:56] <wasanzy> ok
[22:57] <wasanzy> thx u both
[22:57] <tonyyarusso> tripelb: The reason you aren't getting an answer is because your question makes no sense.  You might want to try the channel for your first language.
[22:59] <Guest65406> check
[23:01] <TestingOne> ..
[23:02] <tripelb> tonyyarusso, I speak english. I am good at explaining things, normally. What's up?  I dont speak any language but American. What's the problem?
[23:04] <maco> tripelb: i'm guessing you made edits to the question you asked and the train of thought involved got chopped up in the process. want to try rephrasing?
[23:04] <Mandrew> tripelb, hehe that is funny though, i always thought that you guys in America spoke English ;)'
[23:04] <maco> Mandrew: don't tell an English person that :P
[23:04] <Mandrew> haha
[23:05] <th0r> Mandrew: three years in europe...and the only language problems I had were in England <smile>
[23:05] <Mandrew> hehe
[23:05] <cr0wb4r> Does anyone have experience booting Ubuntu off of an external hard drive on a mac? My main hard drive died and I would like to use an external until I get the internal replaced.
[23:05] <EastDallas> How do I stop x server from automatically starting in Natty?  I tried update-rc.d -f gdm remove, but it doesn't work in Natty.
[23:05] <tonyyarusso> tripelb: First, you add directories to filesystems, not disks.  Second, what does "not booted or logged" mean?  Third, I have no idea what the second sentence is.  Fourth, "But the path??" isn't a sentence.  Fifth, "what is "back of my filesystem"?  Could you try re-arranging your thoughts more completely?
[23:05] <Kevin147> I have a server with Ubuntu Server 10.10, and it will randomly disconnect from the internet, and I have the hardest time getting it to reconnect with dhclient... how do I fix this?
[23:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> when I leave my computer on and I come back to it its unresponsive ... this only happen after the upgrade... suggestions?
[23:06] <EastDallas> Is gdm not the default in Natty?
[23:06] <tripelb> tonyyarusso, no problem I'm going to cry. I'm not here for grammar.
[23:06] <trism> EastDallas: you can either append: text to the kernel line when you boot or: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/gdm.override; works on natty, and will allow you to start gdm manually later with: sudo service gdm start;
[23:06] <tripelb> bye
[23:06] <trism> !upstart | EastDallas
[23:07] <trism> EastDallas: you can later remove /etc/init/gdm.override to have it start at boot again
[23:07] <maco> tripelb: or you could just rephrase it more clearly. simple sentences work best for getting everyone on the same page to help out
[23:07] <vrtigo> ive got a problem.. my pc with ubuntu 10.04 locked up, has happened a few times before as well, and its wiped empty the file i was working on
[23:08] <vrtigo> is it really gone burger, or could i perhaps get it back?
[23:08] <neurre> hi
[23:08] <vrtigo> was working in netbeans
[23:08] <neurre> if i run ubuntu in vmware, should i use 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[23:08] <neurre> host is 64bit
[23:08] <EastDallas> trism: what kind of feedback should I get from the console when I run that command, it just kind of hangs there
[23:08] <Kevin147> I have a server with Ubuntu Server 10.10, and it will randomly disconnect from the internet, and I have the hardest time getting it to reconnect with dhclient... how do I fix this?
[23:08] <neurre> i have 8gb on the host..
[23:08] <Bfh> vrtigo: try to see if theirs a .swp file inside on the folder u used, might have saved their
[23:08] <Wally> neurre: VMware Fusion?
[23:09] <neurre> vmware player
[23:09] <Wally> Depends on teh configuration of the host.
[23:09] <vrtigo> cheers, ill take a look Bfh
[23:09] <trism> EastDallas: which command? echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/gdm.override; ? it should problem for your password and the print manual to the screen, and there should be a file at /etc/init/gdm.override that contains the word manual
[23:09] <Bfh> vrtigo: use ls -a and look for .swp files
[23:09] <trism> EastDallas: sorry, problem = prompt
[23:09] <kejar31> who wants to start being a regular tester for me?
[23:09] <neurre> host is 64bit win7 pro with 8 gb
[23:09] <Wally> neurre: ask in #vmware
[23:09] <EastDallas> trism: OK, thanks...
[23:10] <Kevin147> Can someone please help me? I need this to be fixed.
[23:11] <trism> EastDallas: more information about the new override files here: http://upstart.at/2011/03/11/override-files-in-ubuntu-natty/ if you're interested
[23:11] <swim_> where can i find php.ini on ubuntu
[23:11] <swim_> lamp server
[23:11] <vrtigo> swim_: find / -name "php.ini"
[23:11] <Dulak> swim_: /etc/php5
[23:11] <vrtigo> probably in /etc/php5
[23:12] <neurre> on the web page ubuntu recommends 32 bit version
[23:12] <swim_> thanks guys!! do either one of you know why my browser would report http error 500 on the index of localhost when i haven't changed any settings??????
[23:12] <neurre> i wonder why?
[23:12] <Dulak> swim_: there are sub dirs there for the various types of php, cgi, cli, apache2, each one has it's own php.ini
[23:12] <U-b-u-n-t-u> when I leave my computer on and I come back to it its unresponsive ... this only happen after the upgrade... suggestions?
[23:12] <swim_> i think i'm looking for the apache2's php.ini
[23:14] <Dulak> neurre: because 64 bit is a little more complicated, and the recommendation is aimed at new users who might be confused, or not even have a 64 bit cpu.  32 bit is the safe choice since it will run on both 32 bit and 64 bit cpus
[23:14] <neurre> what is more complicated in it? not all software run as well?
[23:15] <rafael_oliveira> there are many codecs that does not exists in 64 bits system, for example
[23:15] <Dulak> the libraries, you have to have 64 bit versions
[23:16] <idi0t> hey ubuntu peoples
[23:17] <idi0t> i need someone to help me confirm a bug before i file a report
[23:18] <quiklogic> how do you show the menu bar in Smuxi cilent?
[23:19] <Eze> bonjour
[23:20] <L0Lcat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaP7STV1aFs
[23:20] <quiklogic> how do you show the menu bar in Smuxi cilent?
[23:20] <vrtigo> Bfh: cant find any .swp files anywhere on the file system
[23:20] <vrtigo> bugger
[23:21] <vrtigo> it must have had the file socket open when it locked up and subsequently had powered off
[23:21] <rump> hows ubuntu for server?
[23:21] <ubuntu__> lubuntu is f***** brilliant :)
[23:21] <shingen> rump: works well, less filling... easy to install packages
[23:21] <SummerB> Hello, Um, In windows 7 If I had 2 files, and they were both "foo" , when I copied them to the same folder, one became "foo" and the other "foo (1)", If I had another "foo", and added it, it became "foo (2)", Now , If I had 2 folders with "foo foo(1) foo (2)" and added them, they became foo (1) foo (2)... foo (5) , and so on. How do I get this sort of behaviour from nautilus
[23:22] <velofille> rump, i'll second what shingen says :)
[23:22] <rump> is it desktop oriented?
[23:22] <LinuxMario> =(
[23:22] <velofille> lots of our customers use it with no problems (rimuhosting.com)
[23:22] <rump> versus like rhel or centos
[23:23] <rump> ah nice, LTS
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> rump, do you want a server or a desktop?  you can easily add services to desktop version, server is CLI only.
[23:23] <AuroraX> GUYS
[23:23] <rump> server
[23:23] <Jake123> I was just reading up on the notes for the Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha, and it says that the classic desktop is gone. IS that going to be in the final release!? Or is that just not included in the alpha.
[23:23] <idi0t> possible bug: i have problems relating to mouse support with a rotated monitor/desktop - external mice work fine and map fine when the desktop is rotated, but my internal touchpad does not
[23:23] <RenatoSilva> crazy problem. Question: is it possible to use an onboard audio device and a sound card at the same time? What? the onboard for front audio, the card for cases's back.
[23:23] <AuroraX> I NEED MONEY TO SURVIVE
[23:23] <AuroraX> nemewsys6@gmail.com <--- send me to this paypal account plz
[23:24] <Dulak> personally I prefer debian stable for a server, it's more stable than ubuntu, they don't make big changes every 6 months.
[23:24] <Corey> AuroraX: Enough.
[23:24] <SummerB> If you need any calcification, Don't hesitate to ask me. I will wait patently for your awnser , Thank you for your time.
[23:24] <neurre> can i make desktop not to boot to X11 login manager automatically?
[23:24] <rump> i'm just looking for a server for a simple  LAMP and not much else... secure, easy to maintain, etc
[23:24] <SummerB> Oh, And If you need me to repeat what I said, again, Don't hesitate to ask me.
[23:24] <SummerB> Thank you.
[23:25] <Jake123> I was just reading up on the notes for the Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha, and it says that the classic desktop is gone. IS that going to be in the final release!? Or is that just not included in the alpha.
[23:25] <SummerB> Jake123, It will be replaced by Unity 2D
[23:25] <shingen> nooooooOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
[23:26] <idi0t> jake the classic desktop is gone - go with the unity flow :)
[23:26] <Jake123> SummerB: ... can you disable that ridiculous side panel?
[23:26] <soreau> Is there a way to figure out what process is holding a lock on the package manager?
[23:26] <Dulak> Jake123: it's not in the default install, you'll have to install it to get it on a 11.10, that's how I understood it
[23:26] <rump> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[23:26] <SummerB> Jake123, I do not use Ubuntu. I came here for an issue with nautilus. This is the best place for awnsers to the sort of question I asked.
[23:26] <yhager> I've added a ppa, but when I do 'apt-get install <package>', I don't get the version I expect - the one in the ppa, rather the old one in the main repo. I ran apt-get update.
[23:27] <yhager> I am relating to https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/calibre
[23:27] <Jake123> Dulak: I hope you're right. I'd keep using my KDE desktop, but for whatever reason it's having major issues opening icons.
[23:27] <SummerB> So, may I assume nobody knows an answer to my query?
[23:27] <trism> Jake123: there is still gnome-session-fallback, which is like ubuntu classic (panel on the top/bottom, gnome applets, etc) but also a bit different being gnome 3, further discussion should be in #ubuntu+1 though
[23:28] <Dulak> Jake123: I am moving off ubuntu over unity, it's horrid.  I am waiting for the next LTS hoping they clear up the issues, but I am note hopeful.
[23:28] <SummerB> Alright, For the sake of the new people who joined, would it be adviseable to repeat it?
[23:28] <mmiller235> how do I install the arm gcc cross compiler?
[23:29] <SummerB> In windows 7 If I had 2 files, and they were both "foo" , when I copied them to the same folder, one became "foo" and the other "foo (1)", If I had another "foo", and added it, it became "foo (2)", Now , If I had 2 folders with "foo foo(1) foo (2)" and added them, they became foo (1) foo (2)... foo (5) , and so on. How do I get this sort of behaviour from nautilus
[23:29] <SummerB> If you need any calcification, Don't hesitate to ask me. I will wait patently for your awnser , Thank you for your time.
[23:30] <boomboorum> Is there a way to get my password from gnome keyring using terminal?
[23:30] <SummerB> royale1223, Remember to set your delay timer. Your host was not fully masked.
[23:30] <idi0t> i still need help, but i can wait
[23:31] <SummerB> royale1223, http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-1MJ5OT9L.1308609075.png see?
[23:31] <royale1223> royale1223: how do i do that?
[23:31] <SummerB> royale1223, If your using xchat, don't autojoin channels. If you use irssi, read the rtm.
[23:32] <ejo> Hi... I have 11.04 installed on my brand new VPS.  The rest of apt seems to work fine (apt-get, apt-cache, etc.) but I can't "sudo add-apt-repository xyz".  Any idea what's going on there, & how I fix it?
[23:32] <royale1223> rtm?
[23:32] <SummerB> royale1223, Read the Manual
[23:32] <royale1223> i read it. irssi startup howto
[23:32] <royale1223> right?
[23:32] <SummerB> royale1223, man irssi
[23:33] <ejo> I just get "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found"
[23:33] <trism> ejo: add-apt-repository is part of the python-software-properties package
[23:33] <SummerB> ejo, It means there is no such command on your system.
[23:33] <ejo> no kidding? ok
[23:33] <velofille> ejo,try the correct command
[23:33] <velofille> ejo, apt-add-repository
[23:33] <royale1223> doesnt mention in the manual.
[23:33] <ejo> cool beans -- I had no idea of that since I was following an "installing postgresql on ubuntu" tut
[23:33] <trism> velofille: they both exist in recent versions
[23:33] <ejo> dunno why they didn't mention that that command wasn't basic
[23:33] <io> royale1223: set your services password as the server password, or use SASL, or use WAIT <seconds>;, or use timer.pl
[23:33] <SummerB> royale1223, It dose. There is a delay timer for joining channels :P
[23:33] <ejo> thanks!
[23:34] <velofille> trism, maybe hes on an old one ?:D
[23:34] <io> royale1223: I'd suggest the first or second methods preferably
[23:34] <SummerB> io,  Dont give him the awnser haha :P
[23:34] <ejo> I dunno, fresh fresh install of 11.04 on a virtual private server :P
[23:34] <trism> velofille: possibly :) he said he was on natty though, but there was similar trouble earlier
[23:34] <velofille> ejo, might want to check it is 11.04 then?
[23:34] <ejo> it is indeed
[23:34] <royale1223> io, SummerB, freenode: autosendcmd: /^msg nickserv identify brahma;wait 2000
[23:34] <SummerB> anyway, Ill continue my own research on my query, unless someone here knows a bit about nautalus and thinks they may be able to help me :P
[23:34] <ejo> linode
[23:34] <EvilPhoenix> is it possible for me to write a Debian ISO to a USB flash drive using Ubuntu 10.04?
[23:35] <velofille> is it supposed to be in natty?
[23:35] <velofille> curious
[23:35] <ejo> no idea
[23:35] <io> royale1223: you have now compromised your password. -autosendcmd isn't suggested on a network that supports services passwords as server passwords, or supports SASL
[23:35] <trism> ejo: please don't tell me that: apt-cache policy python-software-properties; lists lucid as one of the repos
[23:35] <ejo> well thx for the springboard and I'll investigate further. ty ty
[23:35] <WXZ> how do I un-clean, I forgot
[23:35] <WXZ> there's a way to unconfigure things
[23:35] <Dulak> EvilPhoenix: unetbootin should be able to do that, just about any linux iso will work in my experience
[23:36] <io> royale1223: /server add -network freenode irc.freenode.net 6667 <services password> and then remove your current server
[23:36] <EvilPhoenix> Dulak, thanks
[23:36] <ejo> trism: nope, only us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[23:36] <ZykoticK9> EvilPhoenix, if you are using the Debian 6 ISO CD1 or DVD1 they are hybrid - you can use either dd or cat to create USB.  Personally I'd still recommend unetbootin however.
[23:36] <SummerB> I suggest using port 7000 or 7070
[23:36] <SummerB> the SSL ports.
[23:36] <io> royale1223: I also suggest changing your services password now, see '/msg nickserv help set password'
[23:36] <velofille> ejo, i suppose linode may have custom images for VPS anyway (i know we do at rimuhosting.com)
[23:36] <EvilPhoenix> ZykoticK9, i was looking of course to use one of the actual gui systems :P
[23:36] <rump> no /etc/hostname in ubuntu?  where do i change it?
[23:36] <trism> ejo: it would be just after that part
[23:36] <velofille> ejo, done usually because customers request or use certain things
[23:37] <io> !hostname | rump
[23:37] <ejo> velofille: yeah seems so.  So yeah, python-software-properties got me hooked up.  thanks again
[23:37] <ejo> trism: right after that there's just: natty/main i386 packages
[23:37] <rump> io: ty
[23:37] <ejo> that's all
[23:37] <WXZ> how do I undo ./configure
[23:38] <velofille> ejo, ie we install java libs, standard LAMP and working mail server on ours
[23:38] <ejo> sure
[23:38] <ejo> mine's barebonez
[23:38] <io> WXZ: 'make clean' or 'make distclean'
[23:38] <ejo> or so I read.
[23:38] <sagaci> Unpack the tar
[23:38] <WXZ> io: thanks
[23:38] <ejo> anyway, got this working thx!
[23:38] <trism> ejo: excellent, that's what it should be, there was a misconfigured vps earlier that had a similar problem, just wanted to make sure
[23:38] <royale1223> thats not my passwd
[23:38] <velofille> all good
[23:38] <royale1223> :p
[23:38] <io> royale1223: use the server password method, or SASL if you can be bothered to set it up
[23:39] <io> royale1223: SASL requires a stack of perl modules and other things, more information on the freenode blog
[23:39] <SummerB> I persoally use openvpn, proxychains and use ssl if avaiable.
[23:39] <royale1223> io: i'' read it up
[23:39] <royale1223> thank you
[23:39] <draioch> anyone know a file manager/browser that displays total folder content size
[23:40] <SummerB> draioch, right click in nautalus > properties. or the du --max-depth=1 command
[23:40] <io> draioch: '$ du /home/draioch'
[23:41] <SummerB> drag0nz, in .bashrc place  alias du1='du --max-depth=1'
[23:41] <SummerB> makes it alot faster
[23:41] <draioch> thx want to see folders size in a list for comparison purposes
[23:41] <CarlFK> I haev a ThinkPad T61 64659TU with Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) - 5+ google hits and I still have no sound.  my guess is I am not passing the right model=<some model name>
[23:41] <draioch> thx summerb io
[23:42] <velofille> CarlFK, lspci will give you the sound card
[23:42] <velofille> oh you did that nm
[23:42] <Wallyes> I need help with a costum resolution that I added for my projector. I know it's the right resolution but it still not fit. It's outside the screen. Please write me.
[23:43] <velofille> CarlFK, looks like you need alsa
[23:43] <velofille> CarlFK, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/intel-82801h-ich8-family-hd-audio-controller-recognized-by-alsaconf-but-doesnt-work-795300/
[23:44] <CarlFK> velofille: that's what I last read.  it kinda ends with "options snd-hda-intel model=<some model name>"
[23:44] <Bfh> Any1 Know why vuze stops working? -- it doesnt want to reload up anymore. only fix i found was restarting pc
[23:44] <SummerB> In windows 7 If I had 2 files, and they were both "foo" , when I copied them to the same folder, one became "foo" and the other "foo (1)", If I had another "foo", and added it, it became "foo (2)", Now , If I had 2 folders with "foo foo(1) foo (2)" and added them, they became foo (1) foo (2)... foo (5) , and so on. How do I get this sort of behaviour from nautilus
[23:44] <Bfh> vuze (torrent client)
[23:44] <neurre> does ubuntu run ok in virtualbox?
[23:44] <iceroot> neurre: yes
[23:44] <shingen> neurre: definitely
[23:45] <Monotoko> hey again guys..in Windows, if I put the computer to sleep I can wake it up by pressing some keyboard buttons...Ubuntu however does not respond to key pressing, any idea how I can enable it?
[23:45] <velofille> CarlFK, the model name would be the model 82801H at a guess - hang on
[23:45] <p014k> I've been doing some googling, but I can't seem to find the answer. In previous version of Ubuntu, you could go to System>Preferences>Sessions to manage which applications launch at login. I can't find this in Ubuntu 11.04. Anyone know where this is?
[23:45] <neurre> because i tried to install vmware and i got http://codepaste.net/7aavbx
[23:45] <SummerB> Monotoko, Hibernate will not respond to it on windows or ubuntu, Suspend will.
[23:45] <iceroot> !startup | p014k
[23:45] <Monotoko> SummerB, I am suspending...it isn't responding, I have to physcially hit the power button
[23:46] <minimec> Monotoko: Did you try the ESC key?
[23:46] <velofille> CarlFK, is it actually detecting it ?
[23:46] <SummerB> Monotoko, There is a button on your keyboard , should look like a moon. Press fn + that , if on a laptop :P
[23:46] <iceroot> p014k: as it seems its outdated for 11.04
[23:46] <Monotoko> minimec, I did...and SummerB I'm on a desktop
[23:47] <velofille> CarlFK, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=747054
[23:47] <SummerB>  Monotoko Windows dosent truely sleep, it eats your power while it dose. Thats why it still "active" , Pressing the power button is a better way to do it :P, But really, the buttons work on my laptop, might just be your computer.
[23:47] <p014k> Ya. Sessions got turned into Startup Applications. I should've read that more closely. Thank you.
[23:47] <velofille> CarlFK, looks like problem hardware though - lots of people having problems with it
[23:47] <CarlFK> velofille: http://dpaste.de/zw5b/  modprobe/dmesg -
[23:47] <Monotoko> SummerB, I was under the impression that sleep is the same in both Windows and Linux?
[23:48] <Monotoko> the power button is behind a cupboard door and it's incredibly awkward to get too...
[23:48] <SummerB> Monotoko, Idk if many know this, but there actually not. Windows reserve a small bit of activity, about 64-128mb of ram for activity
[23:48] <Alexander> hey
[23:48] <SummerB> Monotoko, Your best bet, map the power key to a key combination, I have no idea if it will work. But It might.
[23:49] <Alexander> are there any alternatives to proxifier for ubuntu?
[23:49] <Alexander> does anybody know?
[23:49] <SummerB> Alexander, Proxy chains
[23:49] <velofille> CarlFK, hmm check that last link
[23:49] <Alexander> SummerB, How do i install that?
[23:49] <rump> in /etc/hosts should i alias my static ip address to my hostname or added it to the 127/localhost line?
[23:49] <SummerB> Alexander, apt-get install proxychains
[23:49] <velofille> CarlFK, might just be a case of googling all the obscure things - once you get it going though blog about it to save others the hassle :)
[23:49] <io> !install | Alexander
[23:49] <JotaDos> Hey
[23:49] <Alexander> thanks SummerB
[23:49] <Alexander> :D
[23:50] <io> wrong one
[23:50] <SummerB> Alexander, Although, Proxies by nature are insecure. I suggest a vpn
[23:50] <JotaDos> Someone can help me with my screen resolution¿
[23:50] <Alexander> alex@alex-desktop:~$ apt-get install proxychains
[23:50] <Alexander> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[23:50] <Alexander> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[23:50] <Alexander> alex@alex-desktop:~$
[23:50] <Monotoko> SummerB, it's because the wakeup script doesn't listen for USB input automatically...i have figured it out
[23:50] <Alexander> what happened SummerB?
[23:50] <io> JotaDos: maybe, if you ask a real question
[23:50] <Monotoko> AlertEye, sudo
[23:50] <velofille> Alexander, apt is robably running in the background doing updates
[23:50] <io> Alexander: sudo
[23:50] <velofille> oh yeah, or add sudo :)
[23:50] <Monotoko> * Alexander
[23:50] <velofille> good catch io :D
[23:50] <Alexander> how do i add sudo?
[23:50] <velofille> put sudo in front of the command
[23:50] <io> Alexander: '$ sudo apt-get install proxychains'
[23:51] <Monotoko> Alexander, add it to the start of the command
[23:51] <SummerB> Alexander, ... Please, Learn to use the command line before you get into proxies. If you don't, Youll wind up with more headaches then a new mother.
[23:51] <rypervenche> Alexander: I have a good PDF for you, one moment.
[23:51] <Alexander> ok
[23:51] <JotaDos> it only let me set 1024x768 but i want 1280x1024
[23:51] <JotaDos> i search all over google and nothing help me
[23:51] <rypervenche> Alexander: Click on "Download it here." http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[23:52] <SummerB> Alexander, I suggest you use a vpn. Or make sure every proxy you use DOSE NOT keep logs, or else everything you do will be sold to companies, or the police.
[23:52] <io> !software | Alexander
[23:52] <io> Alexander: you should also read about installing software. plenty of good information above
[23:52] <rypervenche> Alexander: That PDF will teach you how to use the command line.
[23:53] <Alexander> io i think it installed
[23:53] <Alexander> how do i run it?
[23:53] <velofille> JotaDos, you may need to install drivers - check for other drivers for the video card (unsupported software in the menus)
[23:53] <io> Alexander: read the manual. '$ man proxychains'
[23:53] <SummerB> Alexander, You have to confiure it first to use the proxies you want. For that, Google.
[23:53] <io> SummerB: or the manual
[23:53] <SummerB> Alexander, There is NO graphic pannel for this. Its all from the command line.
[23:53] <Alexander> where is the manual?
[23:53] <JotaDos> velofille, all the drivers are working fine
[23:54] <JotaDos> is a old pc
[23:54] <SummerB> Alexander, type man proxychains
[23:54] <io> Alexander: I said. '$ man proxychains'
[23:54] <Alexander> ok
[23:54] <Monotoko> SummerB, it's strange...my mouse lights stay on even while in standby..so it must be getting power :S
[23:54] <Alexander> $: command not found
[23:54] <Alexander>  io
[23:54] <Alexander> sorry that was supposed to be one line
[23:55] <io> Alexander: don't type the $, that is to indicate a command done through Terminal (in short)
[23:55] <Alexander> ah
[23:55] <Alexander> sorry
[23:55] <velofille> JotaDos, weird
[23:55] <Wallyes> I need help with a costum resolution that I added for my projector. I know it's the right resolution but it still not fit. It's outside the screen. How do I fix it?
[23:55] <Alexander> man is /usr/bin/man
[23:55] <Alexander> proxychains is /usr/bin/proxychains what does this mean?
[23:56] <io> Alexander: what did you type exactly?
[23:56] <Alexander> sorry i mistyped it
[23:56] <Dulak> Wallyes: run xvidtune to tweak the screen
[23:57] <rypervenche> Alexander: You should read that PDF I sent you before continuing. Like SummerB said, you need to learn the command line first or you will be lost and make many mistakes.
[23:58] <Alexander> Thanks everybody!
[23:58] <rypervenche> Alexander: You don't need to read the entire thing either, but start learning how to use it.
[23:59] <Wallyes> Dulak: it says that its not possible, or not supported by my hardware configuration
[23:59] <Alexander> rypervenche, what if i want to use it with a program in wine?
[23:59] <Dulak> Wallyes: you'll need a custom modeline for your xorg.conf then
[23:59] <rypervenche> Alexander: If you want to use what with a program in wine?
[23:59] <plov> what's the best way to get a gui login to my ubuntu server? so i can control ubuntu remotely with a gui