=== m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [11:38] morning alll [11:39] yo my man, duanedesign ! [12:03] * mandel walking dog [12:22] hello everyone! [12:23] hello nessita [12:23] hi duanedesign! [12:27] * fagan break [12:27] hi nessita ! [12:28] hey nessita [12:28] * nessita waves [12:39] mandel: ping [12:39] mandel: can you please fix what alecu asked in https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/use_txnamedpipes/+merge/61935 ? [12:42] fagan: have you seen mandel around? [12:47] nessita: sure [12:47] nessita: I guess ou have not backlog, said I went to walk the dog :P [12:48] mandel: no, I have not, sorry :-) [12:48] mandel: how's the dog? [12:49] nessita: noisy, smelly and dirty, so excellent well heheh [12:49] hehh [12:52] Hrm, I dont suppose anyone know's if joshua hoover wil be on IRC at some stage? [12:52] was it fathers day in other countries yesterday? [12:53] Not here. [12:53] fagan: yes [12:53] jussi: yes, he will be here, but in about 2 hours [12:53] nessita: excellent. :) [12:53] jussi: anything we can help with [12:53] nessita: crazy question, do you know what is scintilla? [12:53] jussi: or maybe less, 1 hour. His nickname is joshuahoover [12:53] mandel: in which context? [12:54] nessita: I had to patch pywin32 for our project and I have a missing lib… and I've never heard of it [12:54] http://www.scintilla.org/ScintillaRelated.html ? [12:54] mandel: can I see the error? [12:57] nessita: it just somplains about a missing dll during a move done in the setup.py of pywin32 [12:57] mandel: can I see the error? [12:57] :-D [12:58] nessita: sure, let me pastebin it [13:00] mandel: let me know when your branch if fixed, so I also review. Also, you could please review alecu's branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/txnamedpipes/add_qt_integration/+merge/65072 [13:01] nessita: ofcourse [13:03] mandel: and I would like to have a quick talk with you in mumble, if possible [13:04] nessita: can we do it as soon as I finished with what I'm doing right now, I wanna avoid the context switch [13:04] mandel: sure [13:04] nessita: what is our policy if we have to patch pywin32, shall I add the compiled bin in the tree or add the diff of the patch [13:04] mandel: may I ask what is pywin32? :-) [13:04] nessita: I hope the patch will be accepted (is adding a W at the end of a method) but it wont be done in time [13:05] nessita: is the python extensions that allow to access the win api [13:05] like win32security etc.. [13:05] right [13:05] so, did you fill a bug and attach the patch? [13:06] nessita: I just fnished running the tests and they pass, so yeah :) [13:07] nessita: but wont be ready on time for us, that I'm sure... [13:07] mandel: I know, but we need to track this upstream. Do you have the link to the bug? in the mean time, I would advice you send the pywin32 version to us by email, and then we may need to distribute that in our installer [13:08] nessita: ok, doing that first then we can have the mumble [13:08] sure [13:16] Ok I think ill look into u1 in O and see what I can fix. I know there is something with SSO and bindwood wasnt working for me which might be a couch server side thing so ill have a look at both and see what I can find out. [13:17] I looked at the bug list and nothing big jumped out at me [13:18] I dont think anyone else is looking at either issue so ill fiddle about and see [13:18] nessita: there is just a single module to be changed in the pywin32 exetensions, so I'll just send that one rather than the full compiled bin [13:19] nessita: also, do you know if there is a way to link a bug from tracker in sourceforge to lp? or to import an hg branch to an lp one so that we have something in a +junk branch just in case? [13:20] nessita: is this enough for upstream: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3323058&group_id=78018&atid=551954# [13:20] mandel: Error: bug 3323058 not found [13:20] mandel: I'm not sure about bug linking [13:21] mandel: I think there is a way, but you should ask in our internal channel [13:21] nessita: ok on it [13:27] mandel: do not forget to attach your patch to the bug report [13:27] nessita: upstream one? yes, that has been done :) [13:27] great! [13:30] mandel: I'm ready in mumble when you are [13:30] nessita: ok, one sec, I need to push a branch with the fix before I forget [13:30] mandel: sure! [13:33] nessita: on my way [13:52] ok, I'll make some mate before the stand up [13:52] * nessita brbs [13:53] nessita: udf.accentors, are those suggested paths (that is server realted ones) or local paths??? [13:57] mandel: if I recall correctly, local paths [13:57] yes, local paths [13:58] nessita: I'm asking facundo to be 100% sure [13:58] mandel: verterok is the guy to ask, but he may be off due to our National Holiday [13:59] alecu, dobey, thisfred, fagan, mandel: stand up in 1' [13:59] ye [13:59] hellooooooo! [13:59] nessita: ralsina not around today? [13:59] or is he still on hols [13:59] fagan: nopes, Flag Day in Argentina [13:59] ahh [13:59] fagan: alecu and me are swapping [14:00] nessita: that explains it [14:00] :) [14:00] me [14:00] we love to work. [14:00] everything is so quite around here... there is 0 car in the street [14:00] alecu: dont we all [14:00] me [14:00] do we? [14:00] :-P [14:00] hi alecu! [14:00] mandel, alecu, dobey: please say me [14:01] I'll do it as soon as I'm finished writting notes [14:01] nessita: well I dont think id like it any more other than if my job was drinking and chasing women === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:01] fagan: seriously? I think you've proven yourself that the drinking is not your thing :-D [14:01] me [14:01] nessita: not enough practice [14:02] mandel, dobey? [14:02] nessita: if I was doing it professionally id be a lot better [14:02] me [14:02] fagan: go! [14:02] DONE [14:02] * Looked at the bug list and didnt find anything that wasnt already fixed or was something that I could figure out easy enough to assign to myself. [14:02] TODO [14:02] * Im on 11.10 and I have a few issues so ill go look into them and see if either I can fix them or I can point out whats going wrong and where so I can ask for help or what ever. [14:02] Blocked [14:02] * nope [14:02] nessita: go [14:02] DONE: bug #798429, bug #798687, reviews, meetings [14:02] TODO: bug #798964, bug #798413, reviews, windows port pushing [14:02] BLOCKED: nopes [14:02] NOTES: I need to go to university tomorrow instead of Wednesday, I'll be leaving after stand up and daily windows catch up meeting [14:02] NEXT: alecu [14:02] Launchpad bug 798429 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Implement functionality for adding a new cloud folder (affects: 1) (heat: 24)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798429 [14:03] Launchpad bug 798687 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Migrate credentials querying to CredentialsManagementTool (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798687 [14:03] Launchpad bug 798964 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Add new folders tweaks (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798964 [14:03] DONE: got u1cp-qt running on windows [14:03] TODO: push all remaining branches so they can land [14:03] BLOCKED: just got up, eyes still sticky [14:03] NEXT: dobey [14:03] Launchpad bug 798413 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Provide a method in backend to list only devices info without querying local settings from syncdaemon (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798413 [14:03] λ DONE: swap day [14:03] λ TODO: fix more stuff [14:03] λ BLCK: None. [14:03] alecu: was your face! :-) [14:03] me [14:03] wash* [14:03] mandel: go! [14:03] DONE: worked on bug #799707 which broke my sync. pywin32 has a bug in which it uses GetFileSecurity instead of GetFilesSecurityW that means that the code won't handle utf8 chars. Got caugh is some problems with the landlady and sorted it out. [14:03] TODO: loads... push missing promissed proposals. Fix us_txnamedpipes in sso client. land fix fo 799707. [14:03] BLOCKED: unless some other stupid life event happens, no :) [14:03] Launchpad bug 799707 in ubuntuone-client "The windows os_helper does no have support for illegal windows paths (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799707 [14:03] nessita, will do! [14:04] comments anyone? [14:04] me [14:04] DONE + TODO: more refinement of solution to bug #779851 / reviews BLOCKED: no [14:04] Launchpad bug 779851 in ubuntuone-client "Ubuntu One's Unity progress bar is uninformative when transferring a single file (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779851 [14:04] thisfred: GO! [14:04] sry, was making coffee, had no idea of the time [14:04] thisfred: we forgive you [14:04] (I think( [14:04] thisfred: you werent that late :) [14:04] whew! [14:04] )) [14:04] ok, seems like eom to me [14:05] ok on to debugging [14:05] mandel: how long till you get lunch? [14:05] nessita: if you wanna mumble I can wait [14:05] alecu, Chipaca, mandel: mumble in 10 min? (ie 10:15ART) [14:06] LIKED: outloud.fm over turntable.fm in the end, it's just way less hassle to use [14:06] * alecu is wearing a new set of clean eyes [14:06] nessita, ack [14:06] * nessita will grab some abrigo, she's freezing [14:07] alecu: better not click any links mandel sends you in that case ;) [14:07] juas! [14:10] nessita: I'll heat the pasta and will be back for mumble [14:12] * nessita is wearing 2 pants now, and tons of coats [14:13] Chipaca, hello! I remember you saying you were working on drumming up a designer to review deja-dup. Any progress? Ideally I'd like to see the review happen this week [14:13] rye: Do you have your U1 gallery script url handy? [14:14] karni, umm, should be on the blog [14:14] rye: got it! [14:14] thanks [14:14] karni, lp:~rye/+junk/ubuntuone-galleria [14:14] http://blog.rtg.in.ua/2010/12/ubuntu-one-gallery.html [14:15] tnx [14:15] i should definitely post something [14:45] rye: do you know of a bug report for the issue that prevents resuming downloads of files greater then 25mb? [14:47] duanedesign, ummm argh, i am not sure i have filed one and most likely i haven't, eventually the file will be saved, but for large files (e.g. 50+ Mbs) the process can stall completely [14:48] i have a bug report from a user that has that isue [14:48] bug 796877 [14:48] Launchpad bug 796877 in ubuntuone-client "ubuntu one not syncing some files (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796877 [14:49] was just curious if their was a report i could dupe it against [14:51] nessita, alecu: if you can take a look at this it would be appreciated: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/illegal_windows_chars/+merge/65195 [14:51] * mandel moves to fix the comment from ubuntu-sso-client/use_txnamedpipes [14:52] mandel, ack [14:55] mandel: ack [14:55] alecu, nessita: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/use_txnamedpipes/+merge/61935 has been updated and the unused var is gone [14:56] ack [14:56] * mandel moves to fix file system notifications [14:56] mandel, after that, see if you can land https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/txnamedpipes/add_qt_integration/+merge/65072 [14:56] alecu: maybe before :) [14:58] alecu: just pushed the merged version to lp:txnamedpipes [14:59] mandel, thanks. [15:01] mandel: there is no tarmac running for txnamedpipes? [15:01] mandel: easy to fix needs fixing in https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/use_txnamedpipes/+merge/61935 [15:02] nessita: on it [15:03] jussi: you still waiting for joshuahoover? [15:03] jussi: I just saw an email from him letting us know that he won't be around today, but he will tomorrow. Can I help you somehow? [15:04] nessita: just pushed an update to use_txnamedpipes without the unused imports [15:04] mandel: thanks! questions regarding the other branch: [15:05] mandel: was it intented that the class OSWrapperTests(BaseTwistedTestCase): disappeared? [15:06] nessita: yes, since with the changes all the test in os_helper are enough since the test the same code in a more balck box manner [15:06] ok [15:06] nessita: know we run the tests on windows twice, with legal paths and with illegal ones [15:06] mandel: how do we do that? [15:07] nessita: the special tests in test_os_helper for the platform. the have the same logic but use illegal paths, I wanted to use the same, but you cannot be doing ope(test_file) where test_file is illegal, you have to ensure that you use the legal path to create it [15:07] nessita: that ^ would in the case were we are testing a method that acts on an existing file (ex: rename) [15:07] I see [15:08] mandel: another question: [15:08] how come test_path_file_exist_yes pass if you're not creating the file? [15:08] mandel: nevermind [15:08] I just saw the open() in setUp :-) [15:08] :) [15:17] la la la [15:22] mandel: some needs fixing in the u1client branch [15:28] dobey: I changed some things about my progress bar branch, because I realized we could make it more accurate even. Since it changed I would love it if you could rereview. We apologize for the inconvenience. https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/better-progress-bar/+merge/64887 [15:28] nessita: looking [15:29] thisfred: i shall grant you this one favor. and there will be a time i shall come to collect the debt. [15:30] If I ever reproduce, you can have my firstborn [15:33] thisfred: the firstborn is always the good one you dont want to give that one up [15:33] go for the second one [15:34] well, I intend for it to remain academic [15:34] thisfred: hah [15:35] facundobatista: ping [15:36] nessita, pong [15:36] facundobatista: any clues regarding bug #798979? it has several dups [15:36] Launchpad bug 798979 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "ubuntuone-syncdaemon crashed with KeyError in add_watch(): '/home/caravena/Ubuntu One' (affects: 6) (dups: 6) (heat: 56)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798979 [15:37] mandel, more needs fixing [15:38] alecu: ok, looking [15:38] nessita, we'd need debug logs [15:39] * fagan break [15:39] nessita, but it seems that inotify is not being able to add a watch to the "Ubuntu One" dir [15:39] nessita, why would that happen? don't know [15:42] facundobatista: can you (or any otehr chicharrero) request debug logs and do some follow up, please? [15:42] other* [15:44] mandel: more needs fixing on ubuntu-sso-client/use_txnamedpipes/+merge/61935 [15:45] nessita: ok [15:46] nessita, is it only happening in oneiric? [15:47] oh [15:47] nessita, facundobatista: there is a new pyinotify in oneiric, btw [15:48] dobey, with "new" you mean just a new version, or a "new and shiny and we broke all apis"? [15:49] facundobatista: version 0.9.1 which had some changes, so that API /may/ be broken [15:49] dobey, nessita, is the ubuntuone-client running on *any* Oneiric? [15:50] facundobatista: no idea where is happening, that's why I ask you (u1foundations) to do some follow up [15:50] facundobatista: nopes on desktop end (yet) [15:51] facundobatista: i don't know for sure. the NM stuff should be causing breakage anyway [15:51] dobey, what NM stuff? [15:52] dobey: but mterry branch landed... [15:52] facundobatista: NM 0.9 broke API, so everywhere we use NM dbus API to check for connectivity, it thinks we're offline [15:52] dobey: so no breakage there, right? [15:52] nessita: in trunk, not in oneiric proper [15:52] dobey, ok, thanks [15:53] nessita: and this bug report lists the oneiric proper version [15:53] which reminds me, that i need to make a release of sso [15:53] right. Anyway, the trace is very pyinotify specific [15:53] hrmm, actually we should fix the other txsecrets issue first too :-/ [15:54] oh [15:54] facundobatista: but syncdaemon will still run, just never connect to the server. so it will still create watches [15:54] mandel: any branch ready for re-review? [15:54] facundobatista: and with new pyinotify, i guess this failure comes up :) [15:55] nessita: no, I'm stuck with an error when doing one of the changes you request for u1lient [15:55] mandel: ah, ok. Let me know, I'll start a branch of my own [15:55] (wanted to see if I should wait to do my context swicth) [16:02] thisfred: ok, so "pydoc sum" seems to be entirely useless for me understanding what sum expects as arguments, and what it returns exactly [16:03] dobey: expects a list, returns sum of values in list [16:03] well, any collection would work, I expect [16:03] thisfred: well i understand the metaphorical description of what it does. i was looking for something a bit more technical though [16:04] sum=0; for i in argument: sum += i; return sum [16:05] does it return a float always, an int always, or sometimes one or the other depending on content of the sequence? [16:05] though I'm not sure that's how it's implemented (this would work on generators, I'm not sure that sum does) [16:05] dobey: the latter [16:05] dobey that's just the behavior of + though [16:05] nothing to do with sum [16:06] >>> 0.1 + 1 [16:06] 1.1 [16:06] >>> 1 + 1 [16:06] 2 [16:06] >>> [16:06] well, could do return float(result) or something [16:06] why though? [16:07] that would be really unexpected [16:07] dude. it's python. everything it does is unexpected afaict. [16:08] anyway [16:08] oh [16:08] your code is just hard to read because python is flippantly insane [16:09] :-/ [16:09] mandel, nessita: in about 20' I'll be afk for about one hour. (returning home from the in-laws) [16:09] ok [16:09] alecu: ack [16:11] stupid python [16:13] dobey: what's the problem? I'll gladly make my code easier to read [16:13] dobey: that is what she said [16:14] dobey, what would you expect sum to do? always return a float, so lose the unbound behaviour of ints in large sums, or always return an int, truncating your floats? [16:16] thisfred: the progress = float(\n bit. i had to look extra hard to see that it was really only the left-of-divisor being converted to float [16:16] dobey, also, "floats" and "ints" are only part of the numbers that Python handles... what if you sum complex numbers, or fractions? [16:16] dobey: I can break the line at a different point I guess [16:16] facundobatista: i would expect the documentation to be more explicit about what it actually does [16:17] dobey, well, it's quite explicit: "it returns the sum of a sequence numbers" <-- it does *exactly* that === clarita_ is now known as clarita [16:19] facundobatista: i will agree to disagree. [16:19] dobey, ok [16:46] mandel: how is it going? need help? [16:46] nessita: no, nearly done, I found a stupid bug thaks to your review :) [16:46] was fising it [16:46] :-D [16:46] great!!! [16:50] lunch time, bbiab [17:29] thisfred: when you have a moment, could you please update https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-control-panel/+bug/781875? (ping chad if needed, please) [17:29] Launchpad bug 781875 in ubuntuone-control-panel "ERROR - ReplicationSettingsChangeError: args ( mandel: ping [17:30] mandel: as far as I know, this bug #797258 is already fixed? if so, could you please link the branch and update status? [17:30] Launchpad bug 797258 in ubuntuone-control-panel "The correct reactor is not used depending on the platform (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797258 [17:31] nessita: will do [17:31] thisfred: thanks! [17:31] nessita: going [17:32] mandel: also, remember to use the --fixes=lp: when submitting branches, so when the branch is scanned is attached to the bug report, and when the branch lands the bug report is marked as Fix Committed [17:34] mandel: another question, do you remember what was the issue with pylint when having this issue with pyqt? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/629907/ [17:35] nessita: agg anoying, I remember the exception, there was an issue in the order of the imports, I think it was related with QtCore and QtNetwork. It was fixed by importing them in a diff order [17:35] nessita: those it ring a bell? [17:35] mandel: ack, thanks! [17:35] yes, thanks [17:37] mandel: shall I get lunch or your branches are ready for re-review? [17:37] nessita: get lunch, will be ready in a few mins [17:37] ack [17:38] * nessita -> lunch! [17:39] * fagan EOD [17:41] nessita: in which project is bug irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#797258 [17:41] or hal where is #irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#797258 [17:42] oh, stupid me I have to say bug #irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#797258 lame... [17:42] what irc client are *you* using :) [17:42] thisfred: why? [17:42] mandel because it prefixes everything you start with a '#' with 'irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/' [17:43] really? wtf adium!! [17:43] which is why ubottu is not picking it up ;) [17:43] thisfred: can you tell him to do it… I cannot believe I'm ignored by a bot [17:44] bug #797258 [17:44] Launchpad bug 797258 in ubuntuone-control-panel "The correct reactor is not used depending on the platform (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797258 [17:44] thisfred: txh! [17:44] maybe every bug *should* have its own irc channel, much like it has its own email address :) [17:46] back [17:49] thisfred: care to follow up on https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/i18n-test-strings/+merge/63982 ? [17:51] alecu, nessita: feel free to take a second look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/illegal_windows_chars/+merge/65195 [17:53] mandel: sure [17:54] alecu: your comment about using a method for the exception checking was great, the code looks a lot nicer :) [17:54] mandel, :-) re-re now. === beuno-honeymoon is now known as beuno [17:55] nessita: Hi hi :) \o [17:55] nessita: Can you tell an example for 2 errors considering one field ('email') as noted by you here https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-identity-provider/+bug/624955 [17:55] Launchpad bug 624955 in canonical-isd-qa-old (and 1 other project) ""Email already registered" error is not being sent inside a list (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] [17:55] dobey: ah yes, sry, that was still waiting somewhere in my inbox>0 [17:56] karni: I'm not sure what you're asking :-) [17:56] alecu, nessita: I'm away for 30 min, need to walk the dog [17:56] mandel: ack [17:57] nessita: Sorry. You wrote in the bug report, that we expect such a reponse: {'status': 'error', 'errors': {'email': ['error1', 'error2']}} [17:57] nessita: Can you give me an example of 'error1' and 'error2' ? [17:57] nessita: I'm wondering why is it a list, and not a simple string value. [17:58] nessita: Also, I was a little surprized when I saw a python-like json key '__all__' (see first comment in that bug report) [17:58] karni: the error report aims to unify the error reporting for any call, and maybe not for email but for other fields you may have more than one error [17:59] karni: so, the report was born when I noticed that some fields will send a list of errors, and some others will send a single string [17:59] nessita: I see, that makes sense. [17:59] mandel, there are still some instances of the old == 123 check [17:59] nessita: Thank you! [17:59] karni: I don't recall any specific error for email other than already registered :-) [17:59] you're welcome! [17:59] :) [18:00] mandel, lines 459 and 638 in the diff. [18:01] mandel: also, you didn't apply the suggestion of using os.path.splitdrive instead of all the custom logic? [18:05] mandel: needs fixings added to the branch [18:10] now for real, lunchtime! [18:21] nessita: So, the '__all__' JSON key is a catch phrase for any other errors? [18:24] karni: is the key to signal errors at form level [18:25] karni: not specific to any field [18:25] * nessita is back [18:26] nessita: Cool :) [18:27] * mandel back [18:28] alecu: are those isntances exactly the same, I was very careful not to ver generalize for a reason [18:28] nessita: I must have overread the split drive comment, will sort it out [18:29] mandel: thanks, also please fix what I mentioned about logger.exception [18:29] mandel, I don't care if you use the same function; what I meant is that there are two places with "if e.winerror and e.winerror == 123" instead of """if getattr(e, "winerror", None) == 123""" [18:30] alecu: oh, that! I understood it was not using the same function… [18:30] np [18:30] * alecu is having a late lunch [18:39] nessita: use_txnamedpipes should not longer have pep8 issues just pushed it (r725) [18:40] * mandel hates all this multiplatform things at times… is so hard to remember to check in all platfroms [18:40] mandel: ack! [18:46] nessita: if you give a +1 can you do me th favour of approving the branch too, I might forget later [18:46] mandel: which branch [18:46] ? [18:47] sso +txn? [18:47] nessita: yes, sso + txn [18:47] on it right now [18:49] mandel: done, also I set the proposal to Approved [18:49] nessita: you rule! [18:49] lol [18:50] Chipaca: ping [18:50] Chipaca: unping [18:51] mandel: which is the fastest way to implement a throbber (spinner) in QT? [18:52] mandel: this is what I'm referring to http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/2.24/GtkSpinner.html [18:52] * mandel looks [18:52] mandel: a solution without depending on an external animated gif will be the ideal [18:53] nessita: haha I was going to propose that one :P [18:53] since for that we will need the animated spinner to be provided by the design crowd [18:53] mandel: and also, the spinner will be to be customized to each platform... [18:53] to look native, I mean [18:54] mandel: what about building a progressbar that does not show progress but only a piece that goes from left to right until the info is loaded? [18:54] (not sure if I made myself clear) [18:55] nessita: yes.. well usually you have to use a QMovie and a gif [18:55] mandel: can't the progressbar idea be implemented without that? [18:55] in GTK is what is called "activity" mode [18:56] nessita: you can use a progressbar and set it to be loading, that is easy [18:56] because a progress bar has different look depending on the OS as well [18:56] mandel: what's the method name? I'm looking to http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qprogressbar.html [18:57] nessita: ok, let me find that for you [18:57] so, how can I set a progressbar to be in loading/activity mode without setting explict % progress? [18:57] one min [18:57] sure! [18:58] mandel: ah! http://old.nabble.com/ProgressBar---Activity-Mode-td29152774.html [18:58] "Just set the minimum and maximum to 0 and you'll get exactly what you [18:58] want. " [18:58] great! thanks! [18:58] :-P [18:58] nessita: ha, and why dont they put that in the docs?! [18:59] bastards [18:59]