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hardsalamiMy videocard died, and after switching to my motherboard's on board video my display is extremely off and I can't seem to adjust it using settings -> display, is there something I'm missing?02:57
JadedHi03:03
Jadedanyone out there?03:04
charlie-tcahardsalami: usually that is a button on the monitor to auto-focus it, but it has to be pushed for each change of OS made03:07
charlie-tcaJaded: If you need help, please ask your question all on one line and a volunteer will attempt to answer if they know.03:07
hardsalamicharlie-tca, it's not that exactly, in settings->display, there isn't an option to set it to my monitors resolution03:08
charlie-tcaDid you try installing a hardware driver in Settings -> System -> Additional Drivers?03:09
hardsalamiAdditional Drivers says that there are no proprietary drivers in use on the system, and there are no other options03:11
JadedI'm just trying to make my duron 1ghz as snappy as possible, and it seems to be sluggish even on XFCE :(03:12
Jaded512ram03:12
Jadedthe only way i was able to make it snappy was to install flushbox :(03:14
charlie-tcaJaded: hm, that might be what you have to do then03:15
hardsalamiInstall Arch03:15
charlie-tcaWhat about Lubuntu?03:15
Jadedbut what about something inbetween?03:15
DarkErabet it isn't 512 MB RAM, there could be a shared memory for the use of the videocard03:15
JadedI'm using a geforce 5200 FX - 128MB03:16
charlie-tcahardsalami: we don' t really recommend Arch here, we try to keep it simple as possible03:16
charlie-tcaJaded: Lubuntu is lighter than Xubuntu, but keeps it in the family03:16
hardsalamiHe asked for snappiness, not simplicity :P03:16
charlie-tca!lubuntu03:16
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.03:16
charlie-tcaIt does use fewer resources than Xubuntu, so it is snappier on old hardware03:17
Jadedi've already tested LXDE03:22
charlie-tcaIs this a fresh Xubuntu installation, or Ubuntu, then Xubuntu?03:23
Jadedfresh xubuntu install, then tried about 5 different windows managers, that could switch between at the login screen03:26
charlie-tcaI am out of ideas then03:26
Jadedk thanks anyway03:29
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PotluckGreetings anybody home?04:34
charlie-tca!anybody | Potluck04:49
ubottuPotluck: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.04:49
ballhello nhandler05:26
goransince new versions of ubuntu and xubuntu, and im now in xubuntu, i am very very annoyed by some things06:13
gorangood morning, btw06:14
gorani was surfing before, and one pop up page showed in desktop, and i couldnt close it or switch app and anything06:14
gorani had to reset computer06:14
goranalso, alt tab doesnt work06:15
goranany help?06:15
GridCubemmm06:20
GridCubethats weird06:20
GridCubethat sound like some scripting to mess whit you06:21
bazhanghe quit06:21
GridCubeoh06:21
GridCubeXD having part/join messages hided are a bother sometimes06:22
GridCubemmm audacity do not sends its OSD to the xfce OSD...06:35
GridCube^audacious06:38
jarnosHow do you control parking of hard disk in Xubuntu?06:51
jarnosI think my disk parks too much.06:51
jarnosI have not marked "spin down hard disks" in Xfce4 power manager preferences.06:53
cloud_Is it possible to disable/remove xfce4-notifyd without removing the whole xfce4-desktop packages?09:52
aljonaHi, I installed Veetle and now when i rebooted my machine i can not login to xfce. When i log in from the terminal i get the message "You do not own that encrypted directory". So clearly Veetle has messed something up. Does anybody know a solution to this?11:00
ashmew2Hoi , I have a desktop lying around running Windows XP , i want to install Xubuntu on it but the problem is that it has a broken CD Rom and an old BIOS in which i cant figure out how to boot using a pen drive. I also have a laptop currently running Ubuntu 11.04. So is there any way i could install Xubuntu on my Desktop machine ?Like boot ISO from the hard disk or using the laptop to force boot the desktop ? Thanks.11:20
Sysiyou could install it to hdd of the desktop on the laptop, but you'd need some adapter for doing that11:24
ashmew2Sysi what do you mean ? Copy the contents of the .iso or the iso itself ?11:24
ashmew2oh no, you mean attach HD of the desktop to the laptop and boot it using that and install it and put it back in the Desktop11:25
Sysino, boot the installer on the laptop and select other hdd as installation media11:25
Sysiyup11:25
ashmew2Couldnt it be more clean ?11:25
Sysipxeboot would propably work, if you can set it up11:26
Sysi!pxe11:26
Sysino :(11:26
Sysihttp://myy.helia.fi/~karte/ubuntu_pxe.html11:28
Sysicheck URLs on wget-lines to match ubuntu version you want to install11:28
ashmew2ok ill give it a try11:28
ashmew2Thanks11:28
cloud_how could I know which packages out of xubuntu-desktop _require_ xfce4-notifyd? (I want to remove it, but I don't want to remove the whole xubuntu-desktop)12:45
tobagois there an issue known for Xubuntu 8.04 (hardy heron) when connecting the pc on a hdmi display (pc: hdmi out; display HDMI in)?12:51
tobagoon my xubuntu 8.04 the letters of the windows are tiny.12:52
elrostobago: I'm using oneiric but see if this helps: you can adjust the size and type of your font to deal with the situation13:07
elrosgo to settings > settings manager > appearance > fonts13:07
Sysitobago: you should start preparing to upgrade to current LTS 10.04, but meanwhile, set fonts to be bigger13:07
elrosthen set the Default font from Sans 10 to what you like13:08
Sysi!hardy13:08
ubottuUbuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on May 12 2011. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.13:08
elros!lts13:08
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)13:08
elros!oneiric13:08
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+113:09
Sysi!investigation13:09
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".13:09
elrosso I should use private messages with ubottu?13:09
tobagoSysi: unfortunately the machine includes an intel gma500 graphiccard which is supported only til hardy heron. that is why i stick on that release.13:10
tobagoSysi: to me the issue more depend on the interface used for the display. the same settings using HDMI-->DVI works fine, but using HDMI-->HDMI there is the issue with resolution.13:14
elroshave you looked at mepis antix?13:16
plantoschkaanyone can tell me where i have to put a new xfce theme in xubuntu 11.04 ? /usr/share/themes ?13:18
plantoschkaok it was /usr/share/themes :-D figured it out by myself13:21
tobagoelros: no. i hear the first time of it. but it guess the current release won't support my graphic card (intel gma500).13:21
elrosright13:21
tobagoelros: and the issue i got with xfce is the only problem.13:24
elroshttps://launchpad.net/~gma500/+archive/ppa13:27
Sysiplantoschka: ~/.themes works too13:27
plantoschkaok thanks Sysi13:30
elrostobago: if that PPA works for you, you could upgrade to lucid13:31
tobagoelros: poulsbo is not working since hardy heron.13:32
Sysi(i didn't know it *has* worked) but hardy is EOL on desktop :|13:34
tobagoSysi: that's a pity. so i have to migrate to gnome (ubuntu).13:37
Sysiit's desktop too13:41
Sysi(luckily it still gets some security updates, but still)13:41
tobagoSysi: mmh. which linux still supports gma500?14:03
Sysidebian stable or oldstable should have about same kernel as hardy14:06
tobagoSysi: i'm a linux newbee. is it possible to install lucid lynx, install an older kernel (say 2.6.28-11), lock that kernel in grub/menu.lst and install the poulsbo stuff? will it work? inspired by: http://www.bgevolution.com/blog/intel-gma-500-windows-and-linux-drivers/14:24
elrosdebian lenny has 2.6.26, hardy has 2.6.2414:34
tobagoelros: what do you mean by introducing debian lenny?14:52
plantoschkaanyone know the name of the audiosettings application?15:34
plantoschkamy xubuntu seems to have lost it :(15:36
charlie-tcaxfce4-mixer?15:36
plantoschkawhen i clicked on the audio-indicator and audio-settings at the bottom it startet some nice configuration. now it only brings up the controlcenter15:37
plantoschkano it's not xfce4-mixer15:38
charlie-tcasounds like you had gnome-mixer in there, maybe15:38
plantoschkahm no gnome-mixer found15:43
plantoschkasometimes my sound gets really messed up.. pretty weird..15:48
plantoschkasounds like 8bit :-D15:48
charlie-tcatry installing pavucontrol, it might be what you are looking for15:49
mosmoHello! I'm using Xubuntu for a homeserver, and I'd like to disable the automatic startup of XFCE15:54
mosmoHow can I do that?15:54
plantoschkathanks charlie-tca that really looks fine15:54
plantoschkathink it's wine or chrome that sometimes messes my sound up ;) next time i figure it out15:56
LemonyZhello16:10
paradgmmorning, evening all depending on where you are located16:23
paradgmi am booted into my Windows 7 box, ugh I know, but I keep it around for times like these16:23
plantoschkahi paradgm16:23
paradgmwhenever i login to my account through the Xubuntu start screen, it logs me in, then kicks me right back to the login screen16:23
paradgmis there a corrupt file causing this to occur?16:24
charlie-tcayes, there is16:24
charlie-tcaYou can try the following, but it will remove some of your settings16:25
paradgmoh excellent. what is the fix that I can try?16:25
charlie-tcaSwitch to a TTY using Ctrl+Alt+F2, login there. Remove the theme as follows:16:25
paradgmthats fine16:25
charlie-tcarm -r ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml16:25
charlie-tcarm -r ~/.cache16:25
charlie-tcashutdown -r now (which will reboot the system)16:25
charlie-tcaWhen the login screen comes back, you will be able to login. The cause of this issue is Window Manager, Wildbush theme.16:26
paradgmthanks man... ill be back with the report16:26
paradgmhmm that idd not work correctly16:38
paradgmthere was no .config directly16:38
paradgmi was able to remove the .cache folder16:38
paradgmthink reinstalling xubuntu would resolve the issue?16:43
Sysiif you've ever used that xubuntu, you should have ~/.config/16:43
Sysiyou can try rm -rf ~/.ICEauthority too16:44
charlie-tcaThat' s the one I forget16:44
charlie-tcareinstalling would only solve the issue if you reformat /home16:44
paradgmonly . files i have is Access-Your-Private.Data.desktop16:45
paradgm.ecryptfss16:45
paradgm.gnome16:45
paradgmand .Private16:45
paradgm,cache was there but was removed16:45
paradgmthis was a reinstall of xubuntu.. do you think i should wipe it again? I have nothing ofuse on heree thought i need to save my win7 partition16:46
charlie-tcaYou should be able to decrypt /home and remove the files16:50
paradgmnot sure how to do this16:51
charlie-tcatake a look at16:53
charlie-tcahttp://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html16:53
plantoschkashould i try ubuntu oneiric separate or can i install the ubuntu-desktop package in xubuntu oneiric? ;)17:14
plantoschkajust want to see what they do with unity17:14
Sysijust install the desktop package17:16
draiochhi is there any way to see file sizes in the xubuntu file manager or do i need a different file manager17:17
charlie-tcadraioch: view -> detail view17:18
draiochthx charlie-tca already tried that all folders show size of 32kb?17:20
charlie-tcafolder sizes are found by looking at properties in thunar17:20
draiochyea thx but would like to see them in a file manager if possible (windows does the same)17:22
draiochso guess ill have to find another file manager u dont know one by chance that has that functionality17:23
charlie-tcaum, no, can't say I do. I have used Thunar for about 5 years17:30
plantoschkawhat do u use charlie-tca ?17:47
plantoschkafileroller?17:47
charlie-tcafor?17:47
plantoschkamy mystake..17:48
plantoschkai've read: i don't have used thunar for about 5 years :-D17:48
charlie-tcaOh, heh :)17:48
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xubuntu350why someone programs do not appear in the software center, if i have installed its in the terminal?20:26
GridCubemmm i don't really know how that works20:27
rethuswhere can i set FN+F5 to work for brightnes-adjustment22:07
rethusspicctrl on konsole works well, but the keys didn't seem to asign to adjust brightness22:08
rethusFn+F1-F3 works for loudness...22:08
rethusbut still last upgrade brightness didn't work22:08
GridCubemmm22:12
GridCuberethus, try keytouch22:16
cr0wb4rDoes anyone have experience getting a mac to boot xubuntu off of a external HDD?22:56
cr0wb4rMy main HDD died and I would like to use xubuntu via a external hard drive.22:57
cr0wb4rIt is already installed to the external hard drive it just won't recognize the it in the boot menu.22:58
cr0wb4rPerhaps I should take my question to ubuntu?23:03
GridCubeD:23:18
GridCubesomething really bad happened23:18
GridCubeim afraid of closing my session to see if stuff gets fixed before knowing how stuff broke23:19
charlie-tcacr0wb4r: there is a channel for macs, maybe they will be more helpful - #ubuntu-powerpc23:19
GridCubeall the suddend i tried to scrot and scrot said it couldnt save the png into the folder23:20
GridCubeand then firefox failed to recognize my [Enter] key23:20
GridCubeand then all the folders of marked pages went empty23:20
GridCubeand thunar doesnt work23:20
GridCubeand when it does it shows all the folders on my home partition whit a lock23:21
GridCubeD:23:21
plantoschkagonna get me a nexus S ;)23:21
charlie-tcaGridCube: is that a test install?23:22
GridCube>(thunar:3700): libxfce4util-CRITICAL **: Unable to open file /home/benitez/.config/Thunar/thunarrc.3700.tmp for writing: Sistema de ficheros de sólo lectura23:22
GridCubeno23:22
GridCubemy main system23:22
GridCubei was doing the test install23:22
charlie-tcaTry the caps-lock and num-lock keys, see if the lights blink at all23:22
GridCubeyes they do23:22
charlie-tcaYou  are running natty or oneiric?23:22
GridCubeno23:22
charlie-tcayes, no, what?23:22
GridCubei mean they blink when i activate them, not all the time23:23
GridCubeim using 10.0423:23
cr0wb4rcharlie-tca, thank you but I am on an intel mac not a powerpc.23:23
charlie-tcaThen you can use the normal shutdown to restart without saving the session23:23
GridCubethunar-volman: No property info.capabilities on device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b8_865_4D46464B3035373938_if2_scsi_host_0_scsi_device_lun0.23:23
charlie-tcaright-click the panel, click logoff, uncheck save session23:24
GridCubeok23:24
GridCubewill try23:24
GridCubehope things work23:24
charlie-tcacr0wb4r: point was they work with the mac / ppc systems, we don't23:24
charlie-tcaMaybe they would know how to make that external drive work?23:24
cr0wb4rOk, I guess I will go ask there then.23:24
GridCubeok, will try to reboot now23:25
charlie-tcacr0wb4r: no guarantees with them, but I didn' t see anyone here jump up with a response23:26
cr0wb4rcharlie-tca, understood. I appreciate your time :)23:27
charlie-tcano problem, I wish I had a better answer than " go somewhere else"23:27
GridCubeoh that was really scary23:30
GridCubethank you charlie-tca23:30

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