=== Squt is now known as Sput === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu === tazz_ is now known as tazz === jr__ is now known as Riddell [09:07] debfx: ScottK: FYI, I worked during the Qt contributor summit with the nokia guys to backport the a11y support (Qt and QML) to 4.7. I have something which apply now, I'll try to push it to the ubuntu-desktop ppa and get it staging for a few days [09:08] debfx: ScottK: right now, it's only activated under an environment variable, so shouldn't hurt stock Qt usage === hunger_ is now known as hunger [10:15] didrocks: cool, do they have a rough release date for 4.8? [10:16] debfx: no, when showing our own schedule, they told me it was better to focus on 4.7 [10:16] maybe 4.7.4, no release date apparently, but should be in our time frame [10:19] okay, I hope qtwebkit 2.2 works well with 4.7 [10:20] debfx: I asked to them on that specific point, they answered it should be ok [10:21] that doesn't sound very confident ;) [10:24] fabo: I have one more request for qtcreator: could you add kdelibs5-data to suggests [10:24] it can use the kate syntax highlighting definitions [10:28] debfx: ok. sounds a candidate for split (kate syntax highlighting definitions) [10:28] debfx: qtwebkit 2.2 works with Qt 4.7, I have a branch on-going [10:30] debfx: I'll update qtwebkit to beta1 as soon as it's released [10:39] morning! [10:40] Day-1 and I am on vacation... rhaaaa!!! Once on vacation: coding,packaging,coding,packaging and coding again!! :D === ximion2 is now known as ximion [10:44] apachelogger: ping, have you access to lp:language-selector ? I've a fix for the kde frontend :) [10:46] fabo: yeah might be worth splitting === ximion2 is now known as ximion [11:35] bambee: I guess I do [11:37] apachelogger: the "missing language" dialog is shown before the gui is displayed, with this bug the systemsettings integration is ugly... it's a tiny fix [11:37] also I am fixing a missing translation [11:38] where is it? [11:38] apachelogger: I will ping you, when you can merge changes ;) [11:38] (I've to fix the translation before) [11:39] kk [11:41] apachelogger: how a "QtGui.QApplication.translate" can be recognized by intltool-update (which is apparently used by language-selector) ? [11:41] I can use extractrc and sed to replace each "i18n" by a "_" but it's ugly and not done automatically... :\ [11:43] I do not compute the question [11:49] right [11:49] ah [11:49] we need dbus portation [11:49] holy french fries [11:58] didrocks: Great. Please chat with fabo about it and maybe we can get the patches in Debian too. [11:59] ScottK: sure, still waiting on the ppa first and some final tests, then I'll bother fabo which is quite busy I guess, so do not want to disturb him for nothing until ready [12:06] apachelogger: grrr :p [12:07] apachelogger: you gonna get an N9? [12:07] apachelogger: well, if you create a gui using "designer" . How make the strings translatable by gettext ? [12:08] (I am talking about strings like labels, items and so on) [12:09] if you generate your gui from UI to a python script , QtGui.QApplication.translate is used. however intltool-update is looking for "_()" [12:10] that's why the string "System Default" is not translated in language-selector (see the kcm) [12:11] jussi: so nokia will [12:11] just read the hardware specs [12:11] sounds like we have a new target device for kubuntu mobile 12.04 [12:11] apachelogger: yup [12:11] gotta get our hands on the n950 though [12:11] super awesome dev version [12:11] apachelogger: Im trying to get my hands on the n950 :D [12:12] apachelogger: https://meego.com/community/device-program [12:12] apachelogger: pls apply [12:12] Deadline for applications: end of Tuesday, June 28th. === ximion1 is now known as ximion === ximion2 is now known as ximion [13:42] \o [14:18] apachelogger: ping, https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/language-selector/missing-language [14:20] I propose a merge? === tazz_ is now known as tazz === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [17:36] apachelogger: Can you dd your sdcard and put it up somewhere? [18:14] Quintasan: my sd is filled up with kde trunk :P [18:14] even dding a new one would take ages to up [18:15] herp derp [18:15] I get the idea that it fails to run ssh at startup [18:17] Quintasan: well, get a rs232 cable :P [18:19] how does one use it with that? [18:21] apachelogger: any idea how do I make ssh start at bootup? [18:21] it should automatically [18:21] Quintasan: your eth comes up? [18:21] blinky lights and stuff [18:21] can you ping the machine? [18:22] no effing idea right now since I turned it off [18:22] no idea since I dont know the ip [18:22] dhcp [18:23] avahi-browse -a [18:23] linaro comes with avahi, so if you have avahi running your machine should be able to find the linaro setup [18:23] ping linaro.local [18:25] * Quintasan also cant umount the damn sdcard [18:27] apachelogger: with avahi I get only my machine :S [18:27] Quintasan: you use the microsd right? [18:27] * Quintasan tries replugging [18:27] apachelogger: yes [18:28] in the micro sd port? :D [18:28] no, no microsd ffs [18:28] I do not think the board can boot from sdcard [18:28] Standard SD card [18:28] Quintasan: check the back of your sdcard [18:28] They supplied me with a SD card [18:28] there should be the microsd card^^ [18:28] well hidden :D [18:28] oh fuck [18:29] the sdcard thing is really just a sorta adapter [18:29] Now, what the hell I do with that one? [18:30] cool story apachelogger [18:30] now, board cant boot from sdcard? [18:30] no, only micro [18:30] What type of fail do you call that? [18:30] so take the sdcard husk out and put the micro in [18:30] then reset [18:30] then it should come up proper [18:31] Quintasan: that is a very accepatble limitation really [18:31] * Quintasan waits [18:31] yeah [18:31] kubotu: order cookies for apachelogger [18:32] * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to apachelogger. [18:33] YEAH [18:34] * Quintasan executes sudo flash-kernel [18:38] Something must have failed [18:42] lol [18:42] cant do anything on my desktop [18:43] :/ [18:43] mgraesslin: ping [18:44] unhung'd itself [18:44] apachelogger: pong [18:44] mgraesslin: building workspace on arm I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/630483/ and I have no idea why [18:44] git master that is [18:44] with gles and mobile set to true [18:44] interesting [18:45] I don't get this (kwin-wayland (almost master) + gles + mobile + desktopgl [18:46] wayland on arm interesting [18:46] Quintasan: mind the desktopgl [18:46] Should that be there? [18:46] mostly is not on arm :P [18:46] Quintasan: no option yet, we don [18:46] 't have key events [18:47] apachelogger: I think I see it [18:47] yay [18:47] no, false alert [18:48] aww [18:49] no idea, just remove lanczosfilter from the build [18:50] oki [18:50] that should not harm and it's useless on arm anyway [18:53] mgraesslin: /home/linaro/kde-workspace/kwin/scene.cpp:97: undefined reference to `KWin::LanczosFilter::LanczosFilter(QObject*)' [18:53] damn it [18:55] * apachelogger comments a bit [19:17] mgraesslin: seems to be linking now [19:17] what did you change? === tazz_ is now known as tazz [19:17] agateau: Did the appmenu changes for Qt get into 4.8? [19:31] valorie: around? [19:32] ScottK: Qt merge is still WIP [19:32] OK. [20:09] no shit [20:09] apachelogger: chroot mnt/ /bin/bash [20:09] chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory [20:09] :O [20:09] why bin/bash? [20:09] * Quintasan goes into mnt/bin and there is bash inside [20:09] why chroot if there is ssh? [20:10] I reinstalled the system [20:10] since I messed something up and it didnt want to boot [20:10] hi apachelogger [20:10] yo shadeslayer [20:10] ssup [20:10] Quintasan: so why the /bin/bash argument? [20:10] what else? [20:10] chroot by default should use your login shell or something [20:10] shadeslayer: becoming glib developer now [20:11] apachelogger: why so? [20:11] cause it is cool [20:11] i thought Qt was kool [20:12] WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON NOW? [20:13] shadeslayer: no [20:14] what be cooler about Qt than in glib? [20:14] >GLib [20:15] >GNOME [20:15] How can THAT be cool? [20:15] oh wait [20:15] It's that low-level API for C? [20:16] return TRUE; [20:16] though I'd not call it low-level since it does c-objects :P [20:17] return 1; [20:17] would be faster :P [20:17] hex > * [20:18] or rather ASM > * [20:18] Quintasan: please explain [20:18] apachelogger: explain what? [20:18] shadeslayer: x86flat? [20:18] Quintasan: why return 1 would be faster [20:18] * Quintasan has no idea [20:18] * Quintasan meant faster to type [20:18] I see [20:19] hehe sure [20:19] * apachelogger wants data on that [20:19] apparently, my connection was upgraded to 6mbps [20:19] running torrent to benchmark [20:19] I am not sure hitting 1 would be faster [20:19] it's 1 versus typin true [20:19] TRUE even [20:19] Quintasan: they probably have a data cap || will introduce one in due time [20:19] That's probably in your country :P [20:19] one does not type numbers as part of stuff that often, so actually getting to the 1 might take longer than you think [20:19] at least for me [20:20] oh, 600kb/s [20:20] I like that [20:20] I am decently sure that typing true I can do faster than 1 [20:20] Quintasan: yeah thats true for me, but most of the ISP's are doing that these days [20:20] LOL [20:20] Bump up speed -> add data cap [20:20] someone could review this merge? https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/language-selector/missing-language/+merge/65395 [20:20] please [20:20] but nao i have a no data cap plan [20:20] (without trolls :P) [20:20] Am I living under a rock? Nothing like that ever happened [20:21] bambee: your changelog is kaput [20:22] also whatever happend to kde-langauge-selector? [20:22] apachelogger: you might want to add the -h switch to http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/scripts/deb-copyrightcheck [20:23] * Quintasan browses that folder [20:23] apachelogger: the code for "main" was totally useless. it's a kcmodule now :) [20:23] shadeslayer: why? [20:23] apachelogger: removes file names, helpful when you're just searching a particular folder [20:23] bambee: so? why take away functionality? [20:23] the actual language-selector does not use options anymore [20:23] shadeslayer: unhelpful when searching 10k source files [20:23] (at least the kde frontend) [20:24] also it's a kcmodule now [20:24] apachelogger: helpful when adding stuff to debian/copyright for just a particular folder [20:24] bambee: so start the kcm in there? [20:24] shadeslayer: unhelpful when doing that for 10k source files in different folders [20:25] apachelogger: the install/uninstall mode does not make sense, we use tabs now [20:25] my kate is busted [20:25] bambee: yes, so start the kcm :P :P :P : P [20:26] so just keep "createPlugin" :P [20:26] I don't understand why keep a useless code... [20:27] what be the point of createplugin? [20:27] kubotu: hello [20:28] yo owner! [20:28] apachelogger: CreatePlugin is used by systemsetting to start the kcm [20:28] (in python) [20:29] my change is kaput, you're right :) [20:29] changelog* [20:30] I do not compute your change there at all [20:30] * Quintasan starts doing layout for kwin with opengl es magic [20:30] apachelogger: btw ever had to deal with KAssistantDialog? [20:31] wtf? everything is right here o_O [20:31] apachelogger: We will basically rebuild kdebase-workspace and just install KWin? [20:31] bambee: yeah, just saying, that needs a closer look than I can throw right now [20:32] apachelogger: I was talking about the changelog :) [20:32] well [20:32] perhaps lunchpad broke it === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:33] apachelogger: oh btw did you see the page where HP has released all the drivers for the Touchpad as well as patches for them ? [20:33] * Quintasan thinks it won't make any sense otherwise [20:33] apachelogger: ^ [20:34] hmm .. i need a script it seems [20:35] arrr, the gpl be a harsh mistress [20:35] Yay, I'm not sick anymore [20:35] Well, for the most part. [20:35] apachelogger: Are you actually paying attention to what I am typing? [20:36] Benifit of being sick... I lost 8 pounds in a week. [20:36] * Quintasan already knows the answer [20:36] * Quintasan wants food [20:37] DarkwingDuck: wow, you should start a sickness centre ... none of the health programs make you lose 8 pounds in a week [20:37] lol [20:37] DarkwingDuck: Free moneyz essentialy [20:45] apachelogger: changelog fixed [20:46] LOL [20:54] maco: could i possibly work on bug 634215 if you're not working on it? [20:54] Launchpad bug 634215 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-kde install allows invalid hostnames" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634215 [20:55] shadeslayer: go ahead. apachelogger is the one who assigned it to me, despite the "don't assign bugs to others without asking first" rule [20:56] * Quintasan hands maco a Pointy Stick of Doom [20:56] maco: poke apachelogger with it [20:57] Unfortunately shadeslayer lost the Mighty Stick of Poking Harlad somewhere [20:57] * maco pokes apachelogger [20:57] * apachelogger throws up [20:57] :D [20:57] oh there it is [20:57] It works [20:57] the rule is there to make crazy people not do it [20:57] then again a rule aint gonna stop crazy people [20:58] Quintasan: apachelogger ate the mighty stick of poking harald [20:58] so no oe could poke it [20:58] *one could poke him [20:58] shadeslayer: He couldn't have done it because I gave it to you [20:58] Quintasan: he stole it from me [20:58] Or you are telling me you let him eat it? [20:58] it kept it on yofel's server [20:58] * Quintasan pulls a fish out of the water [20:58] * Quintasan hits shadeslayer with it [20:58] and he stole it from there [20:59] Quintasan: you're hitting the fish with me? :P [20:59] I would go "Quintasan hits the fish with shadeslayer" [21:00] * Quintasan crafts a new Stick of Poking Harlad [21:00] This time I'll make it from mercury so apachelogger can't eat it [21:02] s/mercury/cynaide [21:02] s/cynaide/cyanide [21:02] Whatever, it has to be something uneatable [21:03] you can eat cyanide, but then you die [21:03] Same thing with mercury [21:03] didn't know that you could die from mercury poisioning [21:04] It is highly toxic [21:05] robots can eat everything [21:05] you are all out of the loop [21:05] * yofel advises shadeslayer to invent a robot grinder for his server as additional protection [21:05] Oh, robots get oil instead of beer [21:06] wrong again [21:06] Therefore apachelogger has to be human and is prone to mercury intoxication [21:06] kubotu: google futurama bender [21:06] Results for futurama bender: 1. Bender (Futurama) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bender_(Futurama) | 2. Futurama: http://www.ilovebender.com/ | 3. Futurama: Bender's Game (Video 2008) - IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1054486/ [21:07] But that's a cartoon character [21:07] :O [21:07] dude [21:07] your hooked up with the matrix [21:07] you need to get out [21:08] ISTR bender drinking alcohol as well [21:08] apachelogger: How do I login to linaro without a password? [21:10] using a password [21:10] and the password is? [21:11] no password [21:11] * Quintasan now wonders what is the board's ip [21:12] 127.0.0.1 [21:13] wtf [21:13] linaro:linaro doesnt work [21:25] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/85687 [21:25] Looks like the expected output? [21:27] omfg alive [21:28] Quintasan: "ITS ALIVE" eh? :P [21:32] https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/c-alOANFTyZG72pm7VkuDWGNOpLMqCURGqmqb3FFE2c?feat=directlink [21:32] This Milestone sure does shitty photos [21:33] * Quintasan runs aptitude and purges the damn xfce [21:34] hehe [21:34] zeiss makes all the difference [21:35] Probably [21:40] expect pics soon [21:50] night === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [22:01] apachelogger: pokety poke [22:03] meanwhile at ARM [22:03] Unpacking libqtgui4 (from .../libqtgui4_4%3a4.7.2-0ubuntu6.1_armel.deb) ... [22:04] :) [22:05] Quintasan: hmm, i'm still a bit undecided about something, want to have a look at it? [22:05] something? [22:05] if it has something to do with python then don't want to look at it [22:05] Quintasan: http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/webos/us/en/tablets/touchpad.html << to_buy || !to_buy [22:05] the pyth0rn [22:05] it shall eat you alive [22:05] apachelogger: oi this is important [22:06] and then expl0der [22:06] >16GB $499.99 [22:06] kubotu: google alligator python [22:06] Results for alligator python: 1. Gator-guzzling python comes to messy end - Technology & science ...: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9600151/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/gator-guzzling-python-comes-messy-end/ | 2. Photo in the News: Python Bursts After Eating Gator (Update): http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1006_051006_pythoneatsgator.html [22:06] 3. The Human Element: Giant Python Vs. Alligator: http://humanelement.blogspot.com/2007/04/giant-python-vs-alligator.html [22:06] apachelogger: i found drivers for the touchpad, HP also provides patches [22:06] I would buy it if I had moneys [22:06] I once had a patch [22:06] would it be possible to get these into Ubuntu and thus enable me to effectively boot ubuntu on this device? [22:06] on me arrrr-m [22:07] cause I am no good at skateboardering [22:07] shadeslayer: what sort of question is that now? [22:07] of course not [22:07] they need to go into their upstream projects [22:08] what if upstream rejects them? [22:09] then you need to become a pirate and sail the seas in an everlasting quest for more rum [22:09] heh [22:09] * apachelogger could use some rum [22:10] * claydoh could use some cash, then he'd by everyone some rum [22:10] Quintasan: yeah, i'm still thinking of whether to pre order or not [22:11] apachelogger: should i press this pre order button? [22:11] no [22:12] shadeslayer: yes, then if you don't like it send ot to me :) [22:12] :D [22:12] ^^ :P [22:12] looks nice, tho [22:13] integrstion with a pre phone sounds interesting [22:13] claydoh: supports Qt unofficially as well [22:13] if you have a pre phone [22:13] claydoh: nope, also, am getting this to run plasma active [22:13] * claydoh may get and android phone for his birthday [22:14] the features of the webos sound cool, tho [22:14] * claydoh hates being a pauper [22:15] claydoh: android sucks at uptime [22:15] so i end up rebooting my phone every 2-3 days [22:16] really? my wife hasn't rebooted hers in like months [22:16] phones are made for rebooting [22:16] except when she had to have it serviced [22:16] claydoh: dunno, i've rooted it and run custom ROM's ... HTC Sense was the shit [22:16] we have to keep in mind: shadeslayer likes ot break his phone [22:16] ^^ that too [22:16] so would I :) [22:17] I once had a broken phone [22:17] then I started doing kubuntu mobile [22:17] still can't find a decent micro SD card [22:17] ever since I have a useless phone [22:17] she hasn't even upgraded to froyo yet, doesn't see the need [22:17] to run kubuntu on it [22:17] rbelem: oh, btw, did you ever get around to install kubuntu mobile natively on the n900? [22:18] shadeslayer: like ever 2nd camera comes with class4?!?!? [22:18] apachelogger: any ideas whats the difference between a KPageDialog and a KDialogAssistant [22:18] apachelogger, not yet. i will use the same meego method [22:18] apachelogger: mine is class 2 i think [22:18] apachelogger: and its only 2 GB's [22:19] I once had 2GB, windows used like 200, the rest was prn [22:27] apachelogger: whats the status of GLES on KWin? [22:27] does it work? (TM) === apachelogger is now known as rohansgoogle [22:29] . . . [22:30] [1] prn [22:30] [2] horse prn [22:30] [3] kwin cool by martin [22:30] [4] viagra4free [22:30] ah wait .... didn't martin do a GLES branch? === rohansgoogle is now known as apachelogger [22:39] apachelogger: only 2gb prn?? how does one survive on that little? [22:40] dude [22:40] read!!!!!! [22:40] 200mb were consumed by the windows [22:46] still...