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CarlFKwhere should I report that my thinkpad's sound doesn't work?  (not sure it has ever just worked.)  google hits suggest some people might have gotten it to work with patches that have been accepted but still don't work I dont' get it either.00:10
charlie-tcaCarlFK: report it on launchpad using      ubuntu-bug linux00:13
CarlFKthanks00:13
CarlFKother than "I don't hear anything" what is a good way to show a sound problem?00:30
CarlFKlike I was thinking the lack of /dev/dsp, but looks like that is used anymore00:31
CarlFKthis looks good: $ aplay -l; **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****00:32
BUGabundoyeah aplay is good00:33
charlie-tcayou can even try aplay SOUND_FILE in terminal to see if plays anything00:34
CarlFKgood.  filed.  on to something else :)00:34
charlie-tcaI replace SOUND_FILE with .wav files, normally00:34
CarlFKyou cant see sound :)00:34
charlie-tcano, but you can hear it. aplay will play sound bites.00:34
CarlFKI am liking the empty list of devices00:35
charlie-tcathat works too00:35
icerootwhat is the common way for a feature request for 11.10 if i want a newer version that in the repos (atm)? create a normal bug against 11.10 and the package?00:51
micahgiceroot: yes, and tag it upgrade-software-version01:57
icerootmicahg: thank you, i have add the tag01:59
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udoprogSo if appearance properties cannot be found in gnome-control-center, where is it?08:21
Goliathhey12:41
Goliathi want to upgrade to ubuntu oneiric12:41
Goliathwhat should i do?12:41
zniavreGoliath, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Alpha112:42
arandAnd bear in mind that it will break your system, pretty much.12:43
zniavre:o)12:46
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elrosGoliath: you must gather the following ingredients: a CD-RW, snake's blood, dragon's fang and the beard of a wild goat13:08
elrosthen you burn ubuntu image and toss the other junk away13:09
Goliathzniavre: will it break my system?13:13
Goliathi am mostly using arch which is blooding edge13:13
Goliathand i enable the unstable distro13:13
Goliathwithout problems13:13
Goliathwhy would ubuntu break?13:13
elrosif we say that everything will be fine, and everything goes fine, that's great13:16
elrosif we say that everything will be fine, and somethings breaks badly, that's awful and it's our fault13:16
elrosbut, if we say that it will break your system, you're tuned to the right channel and expect problems13:17
elrosit's better to pessimistic and paranoid13:17
elrosbtw it works fine on my computer13:18
Goliathelros: i knew that already13:20
Goliaththose repositories are called unstable anyway13:20
Goliathcan i use this command? sudo do-release-upgrade -d13:20
Goliathor should i use this? update-manager -d13:21
Goliathor update-manager si a frontend to this command?13:22
hggdhanyone sees, on the syslog, messages stating 'tty1 main process ended, respawning'?15:45
genii-aroundMostly I have other odd errors like complaints about /run/udev not existing, and unable to load ramzswap etc15:48
RRRRubeI have errors about Plymouth, something about mountall. Doesn't seem to affect anything tho. I have found Oneiric to be surprisingly stable, if a bit ugly ;)15:54
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TheBuntuif ubuntu is the base of kubuntu... then how can kubuntu Oneiric alpha 1.. not have much of Oneiric alpha 1 in it right now17:51
BluesKajTheBuntu, what makes you come to that conclusion?17:52
IdleOneTheBuntu: <charlie-tca> That's because most of the changes that will happen in Oneiric are not in Kubuntu Alpha1 yet17:53
charlie-tcaKubuntu uses KDE, not unity or Gnome. Why would it have all the KDE changes just because Ubuntu has the gnome changes?17:54
TheBuntuIdleOne: but all the base packages are right17:54
IdleOneTheBuntu: I just run the OS I have no idea how it does the magic17:55
TheBuntuk17:55
charlie-tcaso, which version of KDE do you have in it?17:55
PiciTheBuntu: I think what charlie-tca is saying is that while there are a lot of gnome changes in Alpha 1, there aren't that many KDE changes in it yet.17:56
charlie-tcaThat's it17:56
WXZdoes natty narwhal still use nautilus, and what version?18:05
TheBuntuPici: i understand that... because kubuntu 11.04 has kde 4.6.4 and that what 11.10 is useing.... but i was more less refering to the core18:05
IdleOneWXZ: natty is supported in #ubuntu also try apt-cache policy nautilus in a terminal for the version18:06
PiciTheBuntu: The core is the same.  Ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same repositories, so any package version for each will be the same.18:06
WXZIdleOne: I don't have natty installed18:06
IdleOne!info nautilus natty18:06
ubottunautilus (source: nautilus): file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.32.2.1-0ubuntu13 (natty), package size 1135 kB, installed size 3040 kB18:06
IdleOnethere you go.18:07
WXZthanks18:07
TheBuntuPici: thats what i thought.....18:07
TheBunturight now gnome 3 is better on 11.04 thru ppa then in 11.1018:08
PiciWXZ: You can use http://packages.ubuntu.com in the future, or rmadison from the devscripts package.18:08
WXZoh, thanks pici18:08
IdleOneor /msg ubottu !info package release18:09
IdleOnelike I did up there18:09
bazhangno need for the ! with the bot pm18:10
kubu2TheBuntu: gnome3 in 11.10 is a newer version than in ppa18:10
IdleOnebazhang: but it's much prettier18:11
bazhangheh18:12
kubu2bazhang: force them by not responding to !18:12
coz_ ok ,, need to break here,, be back later20:01
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BUGabundoevening21:57
guntbertsame to you, BUGabundo21:59
mwhudsonis there anything particularly terrifying about the oneiric kernel currently?23:55
Ian__yes23:57
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mwhudsonIan_Corne: boo23:57
mwhudsonIan_Corne: any details?23:57
Ian_Cornewell23:58
Ian_Cornemaybe I'm out of touch23:58
Ian_Cornebut nvidia could act up23:58
Ian_Corneif you're just updating the kernel23:58
mwhudsonah no nvidia here23:58
Ian_Cornefglxr?23:59
Ian_Cornewell, i've only tested nvidia systems, so I actually don't know more :)23:59

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