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brobostigongood morning everyone,11:41
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richukevening all18:35
brobostigongood evening richuk :)18:46
richukhi brobostigon, i went off ubuntu for abit, didnt like unity, updated to Gnome 3 now, not much better to be honest, loosing alot of the freedom to customise, still need my ubuntu fix tho so gona stick with it for abit. how are you anyway??19:00
Mr__Trichuk: a couple of my friends have considered going back to Debian for those reasons19:01
brobostigonrichuk: with gnome-tweak-tool, you cancustomise alot in gnome3.19:06
brobostigonand i run both, debian sid, and latest ubuntu sidebyside.19:06
brobostigonboth, gnome3/gnome-shell.19:06
richukbrobostigon, yeah i dont know what it is tho, it just doesnt feel the same, i love ubuntu but like Mr__T said, im also thinking of switching to Debian, im still gona hold on to this release tho19:08
brobostigonrichuk: however, as gnome3 moves from debian experimental, upwards into sid, and testing, it will land in stable, and eventually, debian stable will possibly, have gnome3 as standard, as it has gnome2 now.19:10
richukbrobostigon,  yeah, i dont want to go back to using gnome2 really anyway, im just gona have to change with the times i think19:12
richuk:(19:12
richukbrobostigon, i think i may just be in a very hard to please mood this week19:13
brobostigonrichuk: gnome-shell and gnome3makeshuge improvements over gnome2, and massive modernisations. it hadto happen, otherwise gnome would have been stuck in dark ages.19:13
richukyeah, i like the idea of Gnome3 dont get me wrong, it works well and looks great, it just seems to be a little more restrictive atm, but its still new and with more dev i suppose i will get to love it.19:15
brobostigonrichuk: when i first tried gnome-shell over 2 years ago, it was very rough, and awkward, but the idea was right, and now, after that time, it has became almost perfectly stable.19:16
richukbrobostigon, yeah very true, i hope the indicator apps are improved soon tho, i really shouldnt complain tho, it isnt half as buggy as i thought it would be19:20
brobostigonrichuk: youre indicators are just ina differentplace, they havent dissappeared.19:21
richukbrobostigon, yeah i know, once i get used to it it will be fine, i dont like complaining this much lol, i normally dont moan so much. sorry guys, anyway hpw are you finding the 11.04 release19:24
brobostigonrichuk: dont worry about complaining, constructive complaining is good. natty, well, i have used unity, since natty was alpha, and used gnome3/gnome-shell since,but overall, natty with gnome3/gnome-shell, i was happy enough with.19:26
brobostigonhavent used*19:26
brobostigonunity*19:26
richukcool, i dont think Unity is as bad as some people say (even tho i know ive talked it down) but it just doesnt feel like Ubuntu. i have just grabbed loads of old components from the garage tho and managed to make up a desktop out of it so might try afew more new releases, i think il end up sticking with ubuntu tho19:29
brobostigoni just simplydont like unity's workspace implementation, equally as bad as gnome2's. gnome-shell's i much prefer. i use workspaces alot, so it need tobe right.19:30
richukyeah, i agree with that19:33
brobostigonit makesalot of difference. like gnome-shell's alt+tab, ir sorts, by workspace first, then app, then window. much better, than the previous behaviour, of just listing, every single window, randomly.19:35
brobostigonok,good night everyone, sleep well.22:28

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