[11:41] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[18:35] <richuk> evening all
[18:46] <brobostigon> good evening richuk :)
[19:00] <richuk> hi brobostigon, i went off ubuntu for abit, didnt like unity, updated to Gnome 3 now, not much better to be honest, loosing alot of the freedom to customise, still need my ubuntu fix tho so gona stick with it for abit. how are you anyway??
[19:01] <Mr__T> richuk: a couple of my friends have considered going back to Debian for those reasons
[19:06] <brobostigon> richuk: with gnome-tweak-tool, you cancustomise alot in gnome3.
[19:06] <brobostigon> and i run both, debian sid, and latest ubuntu sidebyside.
[19:06] <brobostigon> both, gnome3/gnome-shell.
[19:08] <richuk> brobostigon, yeah i dont know what it is tho, it just doesnt feel the same, i love ubuntu but like Mr__T said, im also thinking of switching to Debian, im still gona hold on to this release tho
[19:10] <brobostigon> richuk: however, as gnome3 moves from debian experimental, upwards into sid, and testing, it will land in stable, and eventually, debian stable will possibly, have gnome3 as standard, as it has gnome2 now.
[19:12] <richuk> brobostigon,  yeah, i dont want to go back to using gnome2 really anyway, im just gona have to change with the times i think
[19:12] <richuk> :(
[19:13] <richuk> brobostigon, i think i may just be in a very hard to please mood this week
[19:13] <brobostigon> richuk: gnome-shell and gnome3makeshuge improvements over gnome2, and massive modernisations. it hadto happen, otherwise gnome would have been stuck in dark ages.
[19:15] <richuk> yeah, i like the idea of Gnome3 dont get me wrong, it works well and looks great, it just seems to be a little more restrictive atm, but its still new and with more dev i suppose i will get to love it.
[19:16] <brobostigon> richuk: when i first tried gnome-shell over 2 years ago, it was very rough, and awkward, but the idea was right, and now, after that time, it has became almost perfectly stable.
[19:20] <richuk> brobostigon, yeah very true, i hope the indicator apps are improved soon tho, i really shouldnt complain tho, it isnt half as buggy as i thought it would be
[19:21] <brobostigon> richuk: youre indicators are just ina differentplace, they havent dissappeared.
[19:24] <richuk> brobostigon, yeah i know, once i get used to it it will be fine, i dont like complaining this much lol, i normally dont moan so much. sorry guys, anyway hpw are you finding the 11.04 release
[19:26] <brobostigon> richuk: dont worry about complaining, constructive complaining is good. natty, well, i have used unity, since natty was alpha, and used gnome3/gnome-shell since,but overall, natty with gnome3/gnome-shell, i was happy enough with.
[19:26] <brobostigon> havent used*
[19:26] <brobostigon> unity*
[19:29] <richuk> cool, i dont think Unity is as bad as some people say (even tho i know ive talked it down) but it just doesnt feel like Ubuntu. i have just grabbed loads of old components from the garage tho and managed to make up a desktop out of it so might try afew more new releases, i think il end up sticking with ubuntu tho
[19:30] <brobostigon> i just simplydont like unity's workspace implementation, equally as bad as gnome2's. gnome-shell's i much prefer. i use workspaces alot, so it need tobe right.
[19:33] <richuk> yeah, i agree with that
[19:35] <brobostigon> it makesalot of difference. like gnome-shell's alt+tab, ir sorts, by workspace first, then app, then window. much better, than the previous behaviour, of just listing, every single window, randomly.
[22:28] <brobostigon> ok,good night everyone, sleep well.