| tdr112 | morning | 11:07 |
|---|---|---|
| ebel | morning | 11:13 |
| slashtom | good morning | 11:27 |
| czajkows1i | aloha | 11:41 |
| === czajkows1i is now known as czajkowski | ||
| === lubotu3` is now known as lubotu3 | ||
| tdr112 | how would i save the output of say lspci into a file | 15:38 |
| tdr112 | pipe and then touch | 15:38 |
| tdr112 | echo | 15:38 |
| tdr112 | ? | 15:38 |
| davem | lspci > filename.txt | 15:44 |
| davem | >> if you want to append it to the file and not overwrite the existing content | 15:45 |
| tdr112 | ah thanks i was over thinking it with pipe | 15:45 |
| sidetap | hi | 16:34 |
| ebel | hello | 16:36 |
| sidetap | hows is thing in ireland? | 16:37 |
| sidetap | things | 16:37 |
| sidetap | there are not many jobs in ireland? | 16:38 |
| tdr112 | its just started to rain | 16:38 |
| sidetap | i am from uk | 16:38 |
| tdr112 | sidetap: lots of IT jobs | 16:38 |
| ebel | lots of technical, it, programming and sysadmin jobs in ireland | 16:39 |
| sidetap | u dont have electronic jobs? | 16:39 |
| sidetap | all the factories went abroad? | 16:39 |
| sidetap | electronic factories | 16:39 |
| tdr112 | well intel are hiring like mad | 16:39 |
| tdr112 | a new fab is coming online soon | 16:40 |
| sidetap | where is intel? | 16:40 |
| sidetap | dublin? | 16:40 |
| tdr112 | just outside of dublin | 16:41 |
| sidetap | i am a electronic engineer | 16:41 |
| sidetap | who here is a programmer? | 16:42 |
| sidetap | whats the best language to start with python | 16:43 |
| sidetap | for ubuntu | 16:43 |
| sidetap | i was studying c++ | 16:43 |
| * ebel is a software guy | 16:44 | |
| ebel | sidetap: what do you want to do? Some languages are better for some tasks than others | 16:45 |
| sidetap | not sure | 16:46 |
| slashtom | at the electronic engineer level, C or C++ would be more useful | 16:46 |
| sidetap | i want to be good at ubuntu use the shell terminal more | 16:46 |
| ebel | sysadmining! | 16:46 |
| ebel | That's less programming, and more learning about the system, and how to make it do things. | 16:46 |
| ebel | e.g. setting up and maintaining a web server, file server, vpn server, email server etc. | 16:47 |
| sidetap | i was using c++ for programming pic chips yes | 16:47 |
| sidetap | i should study python then? | 16:48 |
| sidetap | bash commands are python? | 16:48 |
| ebel | no, bash commands are in.... well bash | 16:49 |
| ebel | You can programme in bash | 16:49 |
| ebel | "bash scripts" (also called "shell scripts", or "shell scripting") | 16:49 |
| ebel | it's good for simple programming, but for more complex programming (i.e. writing actual programme, you'll need something better) | 16:50 |
| sidetap | thats looks like a big intel factory in ireland i looked at the website | 17:08 |
| sidetap | its in kildare | 17:08 |
| ebel | in leixlip? that's about a 60 min bus ride from dublin | 17:09 |
| sidetap | yeah | 17:09 |
| sidetap | inever knew irealnd had a big factorylike that | 17:09 |
| sidetap | most electronic factories went to poland and europe places | 17:09 |
| sidetap | cheap labour | 17:10 |
| sidetap | around 2000 | 17:10 |
| sidetap | intel stayed | 17:10 |
| sidetap | ? | 17:10 |
| ebel | dell used to have a large assembly plant in limerick, but that closed a few years ago | 17:10 |
| ebel | I think the intel one is chip manufactueror, so it's high tech stuff | 17:10 |
| moylan | the intel plant is so big they use bikes to get around and it isn't easy just to move a clean fab plant. my company once sold an amd computer to intel. our proudest moment! :-) | 17:11 |
| ebel | There is a lot of pharmacutical manufactors in ireland | 17:11 |
| sidetap | u work for amd? | 17:12 |
| sidetap | allmy computers are amd i like amd | 17:12 |
| sidetap | athlon chips | 17:12 |
| moylan | nope. just the ast computers we sold then had amd. we sold to security company who needed a pc to log events on site. | 17:12 |
| sidetap | i like the new phenom i want one | 17:13 |
| sidetap | phenom amd is the new chip | 17:13 |
| sidetap | i read | 17:13 |
| sidetap | where was the dell factory? | 17:16 |
| sidetap | dublin also? | 17:17 |
| moylan | dell were in bray co.wicklow | 17:17 |
| ebel | no, dell's call centre is/was in bray, co. wicklow, but their assebly plant was in limerick | 17:17 |
| ebel | (in co. limerick) | 17:17 |
| moylan | whoops ebel is correct. i just knew a ton of folk who worked in the bray plant. | 17:18 |
| moylan | some even sent to poland to train their successors. | 17:18 |
| sidetap | repair the money is in repair work | 17:18 |
| ebel | The money is in programming. | 17:19 |
| ebel | There is a massive demand for programmers/sysadmins. | 17:19 |
| ebel | there are more jobs than workers | 17:19 |
| sidetap | programming what? | 17:22 |
| sidetap | example? | 17:23 |
| sidetap | hence i am not a programmer | 17:23 |
| ebel | anything. | 17:25 |
| ebel | I do web programming (and have done linux sysadmining) | 17:25 |
| sidetap | java is web? | 17:27 |
| ebel | yeah | 17:28 |
| sidetap | would u work in a team | 17:29 |
| ebel | depends | 17:32 |
| ebel | if you're in a small company (e.g. like I am now), then there are other developers, but you are working mostly on your own stuff | 17:33 |
| ebel | sorta | 17:33 |
| sidetap | uh | 17:35 |
| sidetap | so | 17:36 |
| sidetap | ubuntu is big in ireland? | 17:36 |
| sidetap | not many people in here | 17:36 |
| sidetap | every one like windows ? | 17:37 |
| ebel | it's much like the UK | 17:37 |
| sidetap | yeah | 17:37 |
| sidetap | most people like windows | 17:38 |
| sidetap | orapple | 17:38 |
| sidetap | apple | 17:38 |
| sidetap | every one has a mac book | 17:38 |
| sidetap | ha ha | 17:38 |
| sidetap | i like the 15inch mac book pro | 17:38 |
| sidetap | at a wooping 1600 quid its not worth it | 17:39 |
| sidetap | theres not many jobs here in the uk | 17:43 |
| sidetap | australia has millions ofjobs | 17:43 |
| ebel | hard to get into | 17:47 |
| sidetap | why hard? | 17:48 |
| ebel | and lots of people go there and have to work in farms. it's like cheap white slave labour. | 17:48 |
| sidetap | ha ha | 17:48 |
| sidetap | nooooo | 17:48 |
| ebel | You can't just move there, like you can in EU. You need someone to sponsor you, etc. I think. | 17:48 |
| sidetap | skills shortage lists | 17:49 |
| sidetap | go google it | 17:49 |
| sidetap | installing software ubuntu | 17:54 |
| sidetap | how do u do it manually | 17:55 |
| sidetap | a lot of software is not packaged | 17:55 |
| sidetap | self installable | 17:55 |
| czajkowski | tdr112: you alive ? | 20:04 |
| airurando | evening all | 20:13 |
| airurando | are we ready? | 20:13 |
| czajkowski | 45 min to go :) | 20:15 |
| czajkowski | airurando: made one tweak to the app | 20:15 |
| airurando | me too | 20:15 |
| airurando | what was yours? | 20:15 |
| czajkowski | :) | 20:15 |
| czajkowski | added the twitter/identi.ca ac | 20:15 |
| airurando | lovely | 20:15 |
| czajkowski | what you do | 20:16 |
| airurando | mine: we had referenced 2010 for UGJ Limerick when in fact it was 2011 | 20:16 |
| airurando | also a few spellings | 20:16 |
| czajkowski | nods | 20:16 |
| czajkowski | cool | 20:16 |
| airurando | howdy jpich | 20:28 |
| czajkowski | jpich: aloha | 20:30 |
| jpich | Hulloh | 20:30 |
| jpich | Did I miss the thingie thing or is it later? | 20:30 |
| czajkowski | in 30 mins time it kicks off | 20:31 |
| jpich | Cool :) Go us | 20:31 |
| czajkowski | :D | 20:32 |
| airurando | should Gobuntu and Ubuntu JeOS still be listed on our top wiki page | 20:39 |
| airurando | I just removed netbook edition | 20:39 |
| czajkowski | no idea.. | 20:39 |
| czajkowski | wish the apt would cool down | 20:40 |
| czajkowski | roasting | 20:40 |
| airurando | the links seem to list 8.04 derivatives | 20:40 |
| airurando | czajkowski bloody miserable over here | 20:40 |
| ebel | hello all | 20:44 |
| airurando | howdy ebel | 20:45 |
| ebel | howdy | 20:47 |
| theirishpenguin | Hi airurando, everyone | 20:52 |
| airurando | good evening theirishpenguin | 20:52 |
| mokmeister | hello all! | 20:53 |
| theirishpenguin | airurando: Evening! Phew, just about got an IRC client set up on this machine! | 20:53 |
| airurando | theirishpenguin and there was me just thinking you were trying to play cool | 20:53 |
| airurando | evening mokmeister | 20:53 |
| mokmeister | Just reading through the re approval application, don't think the Corkonians would like the real capital being described as the third largest city after Dublin and Limerick! heehee | 20:54 |
| theirishpenguin | airurando: I'm rarely cool :-) | 20:54 |
| theirishpenguin | mokmeister: hello | 20:54 |
| airurando | lol | 20:54 |
| airurando | not true | 20:54 |
| theirishpenguin | mokmeister: Ya, I think the people's republic wouldn't be too happy ;) | 20:55 |
| mokmeister | :D | 20:55 |
| airurando | mokmeister an oversight I assure you | 20:56 |
| airurando | else some dissident in limerick havin fun | 20:56 |
| czajkowski | aloha folks | 20:56 |
| czajkowski | so I'll be chairing the meeting | 20:56 |
| czajkowski | except when ireland app is up | 20:56 |
| theirishpenguin | airurando: I'm going to get onto Michael Martin immediately! | 20:56 |
| mokmeister | Indeed! I'm likin it anyway! :) | 20:56 |
| theirishpenguin | czajkowski: Hello | 20:56 |
| czajkowski | :) | 20:56 |
| airurando | is everyone in #ubuntu-meeting? | 20:56 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 20:56 |
| mokmeister | nope | 20:57 |
| theirishpenguin | airurando: Just about to join in there. | 20:57 |
| airurando | that is where the action will be happening | 20:57 |
| moylan | yup | 20:57 |
| mokmeister | yep! | 20:57 |
| mokmeister | Just time to make a quick cuppa! | 20:58 |
| moynihan | or pour a whiskey | 20:59 |
| czajkowski | will be about 40 mins before ireland is up | 20:59 |
| czajkowski | we work through the agenda in the list on the wiki | 21:00 |
| * airurando is getting a bit nervous | 21:01 | |
| tdr112 | so what channel | 21:01 |
| airurando | #ubuntu-meeting | 21:02 |
| airurando | evenind tdr112 | 21:02 |
| airurando | *evening | 21:02 |
| infoturtle | oh, we ment to be in that room? | 21:02 |
| airurando | infoturtle yip | 21:02 |
| tdr112 | evening | 21:02 |
| theirishpenguin | tdr112: hello | 21:02 |
| tdr112 | theirishpenguin: you remember how to use irc :) | 21:03 |
| theirishpenguin | tdr112: Just about :) | 21:03 |
| theirishpenguin | I'm using Quassel cause my fat fingers have forgotten how to work irsii! | 21:04 |
| infoturtle | done | 21:04 |
| infoturtle | all we all going to be asked questions or what's the story here? | 21:04 |
| tdr112 | infoturtle: nope | 21:05 |
| tdr112 | they might ask who is here from ubuntu-ie and then we all say us | 21:05 |
| infoturtle | I should be able to do that much right | 21:06 |
| infoturtle | should be..... | 21:06 |
| airurando | ebel I hope your silence is you just getting in the zone. | 21:06 |
| ebel | :P | 21:07 |
| ebel | it's *ON*! | 21:07 |
| airurando | slashtom about | 21:07 |
| ebel | (poke me when we're up) | 21:07 |
| ebel | nah slashtom's money is being sucked by the government of new south wales :P | 21:07 |
| tdr112 | anyone have the running order handy | 21:08 |
| airurando | ebel eh? | 21:08 |
| infoturtle | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda | 21:08 |
| infoturtle | think that's what you're talking about | 21:08 |
| ebel | airurando: the australian toll road people are money grabbers. | 21:09 |
| airurando | ebel bummer. | 21:09 |
| airurando | the reapprovals have started | 21:10 |
| tdr112 | ok does someone want to come up with a answer for the question that has just been asked | 21:11 |
| mokmeister | link to the re approval page do? | 21:11 |
| ebel | tdr112: which one 'how do you get things done?' | 21:12 |
| ebel | we get things done over mailing lists, irc meetings and using this irc channel. | 21:12 |
| tdr112 | and in person | 21:13 |
| mokmeister | afk | 21:13 |
| ebel | tasks are declared, and people choose to do them... | 21:13 |
| czajkowski | well we share stuff out | 21:13 |
| ebel | (yes and in person) | 21:13 |
| czajkowski | tdr112: does team report then mails | 21:13 |
| czajkowski | out | 21:13 |
| czajkowski | ebel: chairs | 21:13 |
| czajkowski | someone does mins and shares stuff | 21:13 |
| * czajkowski runs back to other room | 21:13 | |
| mokmeister | back | 21:17 |
| mokmeister | 5 votes is hardly representative of all the people in the room! ;) | 21:19 |
| czajkowski | mokmeister: eh.. | 21:19 |
| airurando | Venezuela is through Denmark is up now | 21:19 |
| tdr112 | mokmeister: not eveyone can vote | 21:19 |
| czajkowski | I'm really gonna have to explain to you how ubuntu works | 21:19 |
| czajkowski | only 6 of us are elected to do so | 21:19 |
| czajkowski | :) | 21:19 |
| mokmeister | ah, I see. Was only joking anyway. | 21:20 |
| tdr112 | so we are looking for 4 votes then as czajkowski wont be voting i think | 21:20 |
| czajkowski | yes | 21:21 |
| moylan | anybody got bitcoins to slip the board? ;-) | 21:21 |
| theirishpenguin | ha ha | 21:21 |
| airurando | lol | 21:22 |
| mokmeister | hehehe | 21:22 |
| czajkowski | CIDER!! | 21:22 |
| moylan | apple juice actually. yummy! | 21:22 |
| infoturtle | sweet apple berry juice!! | 21:23 |
| tdr112 | ok guy while we are all here , drinks next week in dublin with all the ubnutu people who will be in dublin | 21:25 |
| tdr112 | next wed 8pm | 21:25 |
| tdr112 | 29th Porterhouse on Nassau Street | 21:25 |
| ebel | that's with the canonical people? | 21:26 |
| tdr112 | i will email the list with all the details | 21:26 |
| moynihan | open invite? | 21:26 |
| infoturtle | :c won't be able to go | 21:26 |
| tdr112 | ebel: yep around 200 people will be over for a few days and we are meeting some of them | 21:26 |
| ebel | kewl | 21:27 |
| czajkowski | aye | 21:28 |
| czajkowski | tis one of the larger sprints | 21:28 |
| tdr112 | i wonder are any of the sessions open to the public | 21:28 |
| czajkowski | it's mostly coding and working on stuff they've worked on at uds | 21:30 |
| czajkowski | going down through blue prints | 21:30 |
| czajkowski | you could ask | 21:30 |
| tdr112 | i am doing notting next week , would be cool alright | 21:31 |
| czajkowski | I really should have had a propper dinner before this | 21:33 |
| czajkowski | starving | 21:33 |
| czajkowski | fan on trying to cool the place down | 21:33 |
| tdr112 | are you some where hot ? | 21:33 |
| czajkowski | london | 21:35 |
| czajkowski | roasting | 21:35 |
| tdr112 | not a bit of sun here | 21:36 |
| infoturtle | loads of sun here!! | 21:39 |
| mokmeister | for now, infoturtle, for now.... ;) | 21:40 |
| airurando | ebel get your game face on | 21:45 |
| mokmeister | oooh, not a good result for the philipines... | 21:46 |
| * ebel psyches himself up | 21:46 | |
| airurando | go ebel go | 21:46 |
| tdr112 | go team ubuntu-ie | 21:46 |
| infoturtle | mon ebel! | 21:46 |
| ebel | wait, me? I'm doing it? surely we're all doing it. | 21:46 |
| moylan | rah rah rah! | 21:46 |
| ebel | ah well, feck it, let's go | 21:46 |
| moylan | hands ebel blindfold and cigarette ;-) | 21:47 |
| infoturtle | we'll all chip in if we can | 21:47 |
| tdr112 | its on | 21:47 |
| theirishpenguin | we're up! | 21:47 |
| airurando | start shouting lads | 21:48 |
| czajkowski | :D | 21:48 |
| asoktheintern | :) | 21:49 |
| czajkowski | asoktheintern: aloha | 21:49 |
| asoktheintern | czajkowski: Been keeping an eye on the mailing lists for a while now, but have always been busy for meetings.. | 21:49 |
| czajkowski | at least you made it to this one | 21:50 |
| czajkowski | asoktheintern: you need to join #ubuntu-meeting | 21:50 |
| moylan | huzzah! | 21:57 |
| asoktheintern | Yay | 21:57 |
| mokmeister | Woohoo! | 21:57 |
| moynihan | well done folks | 21:57 |
| jpich | yay | 21:57 |
| mokmeister | Time to break out the Champagne! :D | 21:57 |
| moylan | nice one ebel! | 21:57 |
| infoturtle | well done ebel, handled it well | 21:57 |
| ebel | yay! | 21:57 |
| airurando | brilliant | 21:57 |
| theirishpenguin | Great work ebel and co! | 21:58 |
| mokmeister | Indeed, well done. | 21:58 |
| ebel | (note to self, control-q very easy to hit) | 21:58 |
| tdr112 | all done | 21:58 |
| airurando | congrats everyone | 21:58 |
| mokmeister | Cool under fiire! | 21:58 |
| ebel | thanks everyone | 21:58 |
| airurando | yes well done ebel | 21:58 |
| tdr112 | jpich: you can use irc , wow | 21:58 |
| czajkowski | whooo | 21:58 |
| czajkowski | :D | 21:58 |
| czajkowski | wel done | 21:58 |
| czajkowski | best application by far | 21:58 |
| czajkowski | :D | 21:58 |
| jpich | tdr112: Only for special occasions | 21:59 |
| theirishpenguin | That was the Rory McIlroy of Ubuntu Loco applications! | 21:59 |
| ebel | :D | 21:59 |
| fagan | crap | 21:59 |
| tdr112 | jpich: stay around | 21:59 |
| fagan | I missed the entire meeting | 21:59 |
| fagan | congrats :) | 21:59 |
| infoturtle | poor fagan | 22:00 |
| ebel | well, we got it | 22:00 |
| czajkowski | fagan: you missed it | 22:00 |
| czajkowski | you fecker! | 22:00 |
| fagan | czajkowski: yeah was at a friends house after work and god side tracked | 22:00 |
| fagan | :/ | 22:00 |
| fagan | Got in just there now | 22:01 |
| tdr112 | fagan: not to worry , are you up in dublin next week | 22:01 |
| fagan | tdr112: what for? | 22:01 |
| jpich | tdr112: We'll see how long the hotel wifi stays up :-) | 22:01 |
| czajkowski | sprint | 22:01 |
| czajkowski | u1 isn't platform | 22:01 |
| fagan | czajkowski: well we are just not in the platform sprint | 22:02 |
| tdr112 | fagan: there is a sprint on | 22:02 |
| fagan | tdr112: nope we had a sprint 2 weeks ago | 22:02 |
| fagan | was very good | 22:02 |
| fagan | :) | 22:02 |
| tdr112 | ah ok , how are you getting on working for them | 22:03 |
| fagan | tdr112: good good they are all very nice and the work is simple enough for the moment | 22:03 |
| czajkowski | canonical now have 2 irish interns :) | 22:03 |
| fagan | been trying to get a grip with all of the code base is a bit hard I suppose | 22:03 |
| fagan | czajkowski: yeah he emailed me before | 22:04 |
| fagan | well isnt he on work experience? | 22:04 |
| tdr112 | so he is not an interns | 22:04 |
| fagan | tdr112: well its still impressive | 22:05 |
| czajkowski | work experience/internship/coop are all the same words really | 22:06 |
| fagan | czajkowski: length of time really | 22:06 |
| tdr112 | i dont know what the different is | 22:06 |
| tdr112 | ah ok | 22:06 |
| fagan | czajkowski: and mine is for college credits | 22:06 |
| czajkowski | varies from 6-9 months | 22:06 |
| tdr112 | cool | 22:07 |
| czajkowski | fagan: so is it dcu and UL | 22:07 |
| czajkowski | it is for most colleges | 22:07 |
| fagan | work experince is a bit shorter | 22:07 |
| czajkowski | not gonna argue | 22:07 |
| czajkowski | :) | 22:07 |
| fagan | there is a bit of a difference but still its in the family | 22:07 |
| czajkowski | you're missing the point | 22:07 |
| czajkowski | it's just a word | 22:07 |
| fagan | I was agreeing I just was saying there is a bit of a difference | 22:08 |
| czajkowski | tdr112: airurando word of warning | 22:15 |
| czajkowski | I'm back for 1 week in July | 22:15 |
| czajkowski | ie in reaching distance of ye | 22:16 |
| czajkowski | get your application in for membership!!!!!!! | 22:16 |
| airurando | gulp! | 22:17 |
| czajkowski | so glad we're on the same page | 22:17 |
| czajkowski | :) | 22:17 |
| * moylan pushes hand cart into room | 22:17 | |
| tdr112 | i sign the coc its a start | 22:17 |
| tdr112 | signed | 22:17 |
| moylan | get your helmets here. going cheap! | 22:17 |
| mokmeister | ok, good night all, well done with the reapproval once again. | 22:20 |
| airurando | sent a rather jubilant e-mail to the list regarding reapproval. | 22:31 |
| airurando | I'm delighted we were successful | 22:32 |
| czajkowski | :D | 22:32 |
| czajkowski | fantastic app | 22:32 |
| czajkowski | told ye | 22:32 |
| tdr112 | its great | 22:32 |
| airurando | czajkowski: absolutely, you were soooo right | 22:32 |
| airurando | but right all along | 22:33 |
| airurando | ecmphasising team reports, pics et | 22:33 |
| airurando | *etc | 22:33 |
| airurando | it all makes perfect sense now | 22:33 |
| airurando | *emphasising | 22:34 |
| airurando | must dash | 22:34 |
| airurando | talk tomorrow | 22:34 |
| airurando | night all | 22:34 |
| czajkowski | pics make our lives easy | 22:35 |
| czajkowski | team reports we love | 22:35 |
| jpich | 'night people | 22:38 |
| tdr112 | see ya | 22:39 |
| sidetap | hi | 22:51 |
| theirishpenguin | congrats! off to bed | 22:52 |
| sidetap | whats happening over there in ireland? | 22:53 |
| moylan | just had our loco reapproved | 22:58 |
| sidetap | just had our loco reapproved? | 23:03 |
| sidetap | loco? | 23:03 |
| sidetap | uh pub? | 23:04 |
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