[11:07] morning [11:13] morning [11:27] good morning [11:41] aloha === czajkows1i is now known as czajkowski === lubotu3` is now known as lubotu3 [15:38] how would i save the output of say lspci into a file [15:38] pipe and then touch [15:38] echo [15:38] ? [15:44] lspci > filename.txt [15:45] >> if you want to append it to the file and not overwrite the existing content [15:45] ah thanks i was over thinking it with pipe [16:34] hi [16:36] hello [16:37] hows is thing in ireland? [16:37] things [16:38] there are not many jobs in ireland? [16:38] its just started to rain [16:38] i am from uk [16:38] sidetap: lots of IT jobs [16:39] lots of technical, it, programming and sysadmin jobs in ireland [16:39] u dont have electronic jobs? [16:39] all the factories went abroad? [16:39] electronic factories [16:39] well intel are hiring like mad [16:40] a new fab is coming online soon [16:40] where is intel? [16:40] dublin? [16:41] just outside of dublin [16:41] i am a electronic engineer [16:42] who here is a programmer? [16:43] whats the best language to start with python [16:43] for ubuntu [16:43] i was studying c++ [16:44] * ebel is a software guy [16:45] sidetap: what do you want to do? Some languages are better for some tasks than others [16:46] not sure [16:46] at the electronic engineer level, C or C++ would be more useful [16:46] i want to be good at ubuntu use the shell terminal more [16:46] sysadmining! [16:46] That's less programming, and more learning about the system, and how to make it do things. [16:47] e.g. setting up and maintaining a web server, file server, vpn server, email server etc. [16:47] i was using c++ for programming pic chips yes [16:48] i should study python then? [16:48] bash commands are python? [16:49] no, bash commands are in.... well bash [16:49] You can programme in bash [16:49] "bash scripts" (also called "shell scripts", or "shell scripting") [16:50] it's good for simple programming, but for more complex programming (i.e. writing actual programme, you'll need something better) [17:08] thats looks like a big intel factory in ireland i looked at the website [17:08] its in kildare [17:09] in leixlip? that's about a 60 min bus ride from dublin [17:09] yeah [17:09] inever knew irealnd had a big factorylike that [17:09] most electronic factories went to poland and europe places [17:10] cheap labour [17:10] around 2000 [17:10] intel stayed [17:10] ? [17:10] dell used to have a large assembly plant in limerick, but that closed a few years ago [17:10] I think the intel one is chip manufactueror, so it's high tech stuff [17:11] the intel plant is so big they use bikes to get around and it isn't easy just to move a clean fab plant. my company once sold an amd computer to intel. our proudest moment! :-) [17:11] There is a lot of pharmacutical manufactors in ireland [17:12] u work for amd? [17:12] allmy computers are amd i like amd [17:12] athlon chips [17:12] nope. just the ast computers we sold then had amd. we sold to security company who needed a pc to log events on site. [17:13] i like the new phenom i want one [17:13] phenom amd is the new chip [17:13] i read [17:16] where was the dell factory? [17:17] dublin also? [17:17] dell were in bray co.wicklow [17:17] no, dell's call centre is/was in bray, co. wicklow, but their assebly plant was in limerick [17:17] (in co. limerick) [17:18] whoops ebel is correct. i just knew a ton of folk who worked in the bray plant. [17:18] some even sent to poland to train their successors. [17:18] repair the money is in repair work [17:19] The money is in programming. [17:19] There is a massive demand for programmers/sysadmins. [17:19] there are more jobs than workers [17:22] programming what? [17:23] example? [17:23] hence i am not a programmer [17:25] anything. [17:25] I do web programming (and have done linux sysadmining) [17:27] java is web? [17:28] yeah [17:29] would u work in a team [17:32] depends [17:33] if you're in a small company (e.g. like I am now), then there are other developers, but you are working mostly on your own stuff [17:33] sorta [17:35] uh [17:36] so [17:36] ubuntu is big in ireland? [17:36] not many people in here [17:37] every one like windows ? [17:37] it's much like the UK [17:37] yeah [17:38] most people like windows [17:38] orapple [17:38] apple [17:38] every one has a mac book [17:38] ha ha [17:38] i like the 15inch mac book pro [17:39] at a wooping 1600 quid its not worth it [17:43] theres not many jobs here in the uk [17:43] australia has millions ofjobs [17:47] hard to get into [17:48] why hard? [17:48] and lots of people go there and have to work in farms. it's like cheap white slave labour. [17:48] ha ha [17:48] nooooo [17:48] You can't just move there, like you can in EU. You need someone to sponsor you, etc. I think. [17:49] skills shortage lists [17:49] go google it [17:54] installing software ubuntu [17:55] how do u do it manually [17:55] a lot of software is not packaged [17:55] self installable [20:04] tdr112: you alive ? [20:13] evening all [20:13] are we ready? [20:15] 45 min to go :) [20:15] airurando: made one tweak to the app [20:15] me too [20:15] what was yours? [20:15] :) [20:15] added the twitter/identi.ca ac [20:15] lovely [20:16] what you do [20:16] mine: we had referenced 2010 for UGJ Limerick when in fact it was 2011 [20:16] also a few spellings [20:16] nods [20:16] cool [20:28] howdy jpich [20:30] jpich: aloha [20:30] Hulloh [20:30] Did I miss the thingie thing or is it later? [20:31] in 30 mins time it kicks off [20:31] Cool :) Go us [20:32] :D [20:39] should Gobuntu and Ubuntu JeOS still be listed on our top wiki page [20:39] I just removed netbook edition [20:39] no idea.. [20:40] wish the apt would cool down [20:40] roasting [20:40] the links seem to list 8.04 derivatives [20:40] czajkowski bloody miserable over here [20:44] hello all [20:45] howdy ebel [20:47] howdy [20:52] Hi airurando, everyone [20:52] good evening theirishpenguin [20:53] hello all! [20:53] airurando: Evening! Phew, just about got an IRC client set up on this machine! [20:53] theirishpenguin and there was me just thinking you were trying to play cool [20:53] evening mokmeister [20:54] Just reading through the re approval application, don't think the Corkonians would like the real capital being described as the third largest city after Dublin and Limerick! heehee [20:54] airurando: I'm rarely cool :-) [20:54] mokmeister: hello [20:54] lol [20:54] not true [20:55] mokmeister: Ya, I think the people's republic wouldn't be too happy ;) [20:55] :D [20:56] mokmeister an oversight I assure you [20:56] else some dissident in limerick havin fun [20:56] aloha folks [20:56] so I'll be chairing the meeting [20:56] except when ireland app is up [20:56] airurando: I'm going to get onto Michael Martin immediately! [20:56] Indeed! I'm likin it anyway! :) [20:56] czajkowski: Hello [20:56] :) [20:56] is everyone in #ubuntu-meeting? [20:56] aloha [20:57] nope [20:57] airurando: Just about to join in there. [20:57] that is where the action will be happening [20:57] yup [20:57] yep! [20:58] Just time to make a quick cuppa! [20:59] or pour a whiskey [20:59] will be about 40 mins before ireland is up [21:00] we work through the agenda in the list on the wiki [21:01] * airurando is getting a bit nervous [21:01] so what channel [21:02] #ubuntu-meeting [21:02] evenind tdr112 [21:02] *evening [21:02] oh, we ment to be in that room? [21:02] infoturtle yip [21:02] evening [21:02] tdr112: hello [21:03] theirishpenguin: you remember how to use irc :) [21:03] tdr112: Just about :) [21:04] I'm using Quassel cause my fat fingers have forgotten how to work irsii! [21:04] done [21:04] all we all going to be asked questions or what's the story here? [21:05] infoturtle: nope [21:05] they might ask who is here from ubuntu-ie and then we all say us [21:06] I should be able to do that much right [21:06] should be..... [21:06] ebel I hope your silence is you just getting in the zone. [21:07] :P [21:07] it's *ON*! [21:07] slashtom about [21:07] (poke me when we're up) [21:07] nah slashtom's money is being sucked by the government of new south wales :P [21:08] anyone have the running order handy [21:08] ebel eh? [21:08] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda [21:08] think that's what you're talking about [21:09] airurando: the australian toll road people are money grabbers. [21:09] ebel bummer. [21:10] the reapprovals have started [21:11] ok does someone want to come up with a answer for the question that has just been asked [21:11] link to the re approval page do? [21:12] tdr112: which one 'how do you get things done?' [21:12] we get things done over mailing lists, irc meetings and using this irc channel. [21:13] and in person [21:13] afk [21:13] tasks are declared, and people choose to do them... [21:13] well we share stuff out [21:13] (yes and in person) [21:13] tdr112: does team report then mails [21:13] out [21:13] ebel: chairs [21:13] someone does mins and shares stuff [21:13] * czajkowski runs back to other room [21:17] back [21:19] 5 votes is hardly representative of all the people in the room! ;) [21:19] mokmeister: eh.. [21:19] Venezuela is through Denmark is up now [21:19] mokmeister: not eveyone can vote [21:19] I'm really gonna have to explain to you how ubuntu works [21:19] only 6 of us are elected to do so [21:19] :) [21:20] ah, I see. Was only joking anyway. [21:20] so we are looking for 4 votes then as czajkowski wont be voting i think [21:21] yes [21:21] anybody got bitcoins to slip the board? ;-) [21:21] ha ha [21:22] lol [21:22] hehehe [21:22] CIDER!! [21:22] apple juice actually. yummy! [21:23] sweet apple berry juice!! [21:25] ok guy while we are all here , drinks next week in dublin with all the ubnutu people who will be in dublin [21:25] next wed 8pm [21:25] 29th Porterhouse on Nassau Street [21:26] that's with the canonical people? [21:26] i will email the list with all the details [21:26] open invite? [21:26] :c won't be able to go [21:26] ebel: yep around 200 people will be over for a few days and we are meeting some of them [21:27] kewl [21:28] aye [21:28] tis one of the larger sprints [21:28] i wonder are any of the sessions open to the public [21:30] it's mostly coding and working on stuff they've worked on at uds [21:30] going down through blue prints [21:30] you could ask [21:31] i am doing notting next week , would be cool alright [21:33] I really should have had a propper dinner before this [21:33] starving [21:33] fan on trying to cool the place down [21:33] are you some where hot ? [21:35] london [21:35] roasting [21:36] not a bit of sun here [21:39] loads of sun here!! [21:40] for now, infoturtle, for now.... ;) [21:45] ebel get your game face on [21:46] oooh, not a good result for the philipines... [21:46] * ebel psyches himself up [21:46] go ebel go [21:46] go team ubuntu-ie [21:46] mon ebel! [21:46] wait, me? I'm doing it? surely we're all doing it. [21:46] rah rah rah! [21:46] ah well, feck it, let's go [21:47] hands ebel blindfold and cigarette ;-) [21:47] we'll all chip in if we can [21:47] its on [21:47] we're up! [21:48] start shouting lads [21:48] :D [21:49] :) [21:49] asoktheintern: aloha [21:49] czajkowski: Been keeping an eye on the mailing lists for a while now, but have always been busy for meetings.. [21:50] at least you made it to this one [21:50] asoktheintern: you need to join #ubuntu-meeting [21:57] huzzah! [21:57] Yay [21:57] Woohoo! [21:57] well done folks [21:57] yay [21:57] Time to break out the Champagne! :D [21:57] nice one ebel! [21:57] well done ebel, handled it well [21:57] yay! [21:57] brilliant [21:58] Great work ebel and co! [21:58] Indeed, well done. [21:58] (note to self, control-q very easy to hit) [21:58] all done [21:58] congrats everyone [21:58] Cool under fiire! [21:58] thanks everyone [21:58] yes well done ebel [21:58] jpich: you can use irc , wow [21:58] whooo [21:58] :D [21:58] wel done [21:58] best application by far [21:58] :D [21:59] tdr112: Only for special occasions [21:59] That was the Rory McIlroy of Ubuntu Loco applications! [21:59] :D [21:59] crap [21:59] jpich: stay around [21:59] I missed the entire meeting [21:59] congrats :) [22:00] poor fagan [22:00] well, we got it [22:00] fagan: you missed it [22:00] you fecker! [22:00] czajkowski: yeah was at a friends house after work and god side tracked [22:00] :/ [22:01] Got in just there now [22:01] fagan: not to worry , are you up in dublin next week [22:01] tdr112: what for? [22:01] tdr112: We'll see how long the hotel wifi stays up :-) [22:01] sprint [22:01] u1 isn't platform [22:02] czajkowski: well we are just not in the platform sprint [22:02] fagan: there is a sprint on [22:02] tdr112: nope we had a sprint 2 weeks ago [22:02] was very good [22:02] :) [22:03] ah ok , how are you getting on working for them [22:03] tdr112: good good they are all very nice and the work is simple enough for the moment [22:03] canonical now have 2 irish interns :) [22:03] been trying to get a grip with all of the code base is a bit hard I suppose [22:04] czajkowski: yeah he emailed me before [22:04] well isnt he on work experience? [22:04] so he is not an interns [22:05] tdr112: well its still impressive [22:06] work experience/internship/coop are all the same words really [22:06] czajkowski: length of time really [22:06] i dont know what the different is [22:06] ah ok [22:06] czajkowski: and mine is for college credits [22:06] varies from 6-9 months [22:07] cool [22:07] fagan: so is it dcu and UL [22:07] it is for most colleges [22:07] work experince is a bit shorter [22:07] not gonna argue [22:07] :) [22:07] there is a bit of a difference but still its in the family [22:07] you're missing the point [22:07] it's just a word [22:08] I was agreeing I just was saying there is a bit of a difference [22:15] tdr112: airurando word of warning [22:15] I'm back for 1 week in July [22:16] ie in reaching distance of ye [22:16] get your application in for membership!!!!!!! [22:17] gulp! [22:17] so glad we're on the same page [22:17] :) [22:17] * moylan pushes hand cart into room [22:17] i sign the coc its a start [22:17] signed [22:17] get your helmets here. going cheap! [22:20] ok, good night all, well done with the reapproval once again. [22:31] sent a rather jubilant e-mail to the list regarding reapproval. [22:32] I'm delighted we were successful [22:32] :D [22:32] fantastic app [22:32] told ye [22:32] its great [22:32] czajkowski: absolutely, you were soooo right [22:33] but right all along [22:33] ecmphasising team reports, pics et [22:33] *etc [22:33] it all makes perfect sense now [22:34] *emphasising [22:34] must dash [22:34] talk tomorrow [22:34] night all [22:35] pics make our lives easy [22:35] team reports we love [22:38] 'night people [22:39] see ya [22:51] hi [22:52] congrats! off to bed [22:53] whats happening over there in ireland? [22:58] just had our loco reapproved [23:03] just had our loco reapproved? [23:03] loco? [23:04] uh pub?