| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| fta | dpm, \o/ i now have the chromium desktop file with the unity quicklist translated in 30 langs | 10:40 |
|---|---|---|
| fta | 32 more to go | 10:40 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, how many langpacks do you have for ff/tb? | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox.head/view/head:/debian/locales.shipped | 10:43 |
| chrisccoulson | 78 by the look of that | 10:43 |
| fta | good, i'm just at 62 | 10:44 |
| fta | even 61 | 10:44 |
| chrisccoulson | you'll probably overtake me soon whilst firefox isn't translatable in launchpad ;) | 10:45 |
| fta | http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/translations/trunk/converter-output.html | 10:45 |
| chrisccoulson | although that's something i'm fixing, but in my spare time mostly | 10:45 |
| dpm | fta, great news! | 10:48 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, i wish someone worked on improving evo like you do for tb :P | 11:11 |
| fta | the evo api seems very limited, the spec is too obscure | 11:17 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley_away, i started pushing changes here - https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/messagingmenu-extension/me-fixes | 12:31 |
| chrisccoulson | there's a few other things i want to fix before uploading (ie, making sure all of the visible strings are translated, and i also want to hide the account name if there is only a single account) | 12:31 |
| chrisccoulson | but it's working quite nicely atm | 12:32 |
| chrisccoulson | also, i need to limit the number of entries to 6, as per the spec | 12:36 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, it seems all my indicators stopped being updated since ~ a week ago. at least rhythmbox, the load indicator and a few others | 13:23 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i've not noticed that yet. i guess it's time for me to upgrade again ;) | 13:23 |
| fta | they all display old frozen data | 13:23 |
| chrisccoulson | huh, thunderbird says i have 2 accounts, which is a lie. i only have 1! | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i wonder what the second account is ;) | 13:24 |
| fta | i'm started to think i've upgraded to oneiric too early | 13:24 |
| fta | the bugs are piling up like crazy everywhere | 13:25 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it's definitely getting interesting | 13:26 |
| fta | interesting? i'd rather say alarming | 13:27 |
| fta | especially when i read "don't spend too much time on bug fixing early in the cycle" | 13:28 |
| fta | i can't even start unity-3d on my other box, it's been crashing on startup for a week, no one cares | 13:29 |
| fta | i guess i'll give gnome-shell another try | 13:30 |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | ||
| fta | ..or maybe i should move to mint | 14:56 |
| joelesko | Hello. I was wondering how packages should be maintained for the various releases of ubuntu. | 15:17 |
| joelesko | For seamonkey, I've been building the current Mozilla release in my ppa for all supported ubuntu releases. | 15:19 |
| joelesko | I'm using all releases back to lucid and wanted to make sure I had the patched version of seamonkey. | 15:21 |
| joelesko | Is that the way it should be maintained? | 15:22 |
| chrisccoulson | hi m_conley, how are you? | 16:34 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: good, and you? | 16:34 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, yeah, good thanks | 16:34 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, so, there is a bug in dbusmenu or libindicate somewhere which breaks the thunderbird indicator | 16:36 |
| chrisccoulson | (and every other indicator it seems, as well) | 16:36 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: hrm - in what way? | 16:36 |
| chrisccoulson | i thought i was going crazy, because thunderbird keeps adding empty indicators to the menu | 16:36 |
| chrisccoulson | but i've just spoken to ted, and it seems that pidgin and liferea get the same thing too (and fta saw that with liferea too) | 16:37 |
| chrisccoulson | so i don't think it's anything we're doing ;) | 16:37 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/broken-indicator.png | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | sorry about the massive screenshot ;) | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | it does that quite frequently though | 16:43 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: hrm. that's frustrating. Have they narrowed down the problem? | 16:43 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, not yet. i guess that will be my next task ;) | 16:43 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: the yaks continue to be shaved. :) | 16:43 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 16:44 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, i guess that with your contacts work, we will get gmail contact support pretty much for free won't we? (via eds) | 16:48 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: yep! | 16:48 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: :D | 16:48 |
| m_conley | exclusively for Linux folk. Hooray! :) | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | that's really good :) | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't wait to be able to have my phone contacts syncable with thunderbird :) | 16:49 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: I hope it works for you. I'm starting write now. | 16:50 |
| chrisccoulson | awesome :) | 16:50 |
| chrisccoulson | d'uh, why didn't i think of that in the first place? i've been scratching my head this afternoon trying to figure out how to get notified when a user adds or removes an account in thunderbird | 17:02 |
| chrisccoulson | and i can just listen for changes in the mail.accountmanager.accounts pref! | 17:02 |
| chrisccoulson | simples :) | 17:02 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't believe i didn't think of that in the first place | 17:03 |
| * chrisccoulson clearly needs more coffee | 17:03 | |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: did we ditch the ubuntu start page for Firefox 5? | 17:26 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, no, it should still be there | 17:26 |
| micahg | :( | 17:26 |
| micahg | ii xul-ext-ubufox 0.9.1-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 gives me the mozilla about:home :( | 17:27 |
| chrisccoulson | what locale? | 17:27 |
| micahg | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 | 17:28 |
| fta | hm, looks useful.. http://code.google.com/p/address-sanitizer/wiki/AddressSanitizer | 17:28 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, it worked when i tested it :/ | 17:28 |
| micahg | I remember it working before as well | 17:29 |
| * micahg checks error console | 17:29 | |
| micahg | ah :( | 17:29 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I"m getting gSearchEngine is null in chrome://browser/content/aboutHome.js | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, do you have any other extensions installed? | 17:32 |
| micahg | global menu bar | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | wtf | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | that's a secondary error | 17:34 |
| chrisccoulson | aboutHome.js belongs to firefox. that code is only being executed because the home page is about:home | 17:34 |
| micahg | k | 17:34 |
| chrisccoulson | so, that's a red herring for the wrong start page | 17:34 |
| micahg | there's also trouble reading the manifest file for the default theme even though the theme is loaded | 17:35 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: what's weirder is a clean profile works :( | 17:38 |
| micahg | at least on the local machine, trying in vm | 17:38 |
| micahg | double weird | 17:39 |
| micahg | in the VM on a new profile it's fine, in the default profile not | 17:39 |
| === Guest72525 is now known as Omega` | ||
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ok, here's how I reproduce, I tested before launching QRT it shows up fine, when I run through the QRT script, it doesn't | 17:45 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: oh, silly me, I forgot we now have 2 "home" pages... | 17:46 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: so, false alarm | 17:47 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 17:47 |
| micahg | I haven't tested enough on natty yet to remember that :-/ | 17:47 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, did you upgrade recently? | 17:52 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - not since last week | 17:52 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i will do later tonight | 17:52 |
| fta | just wanted to know if you were able to complete the upgrade | 17:54 |
| fta | i'm not | 17:54 |
| fta | for about a week now | 17:54 |
| fta | The following packages have been kept back: | 18:03 |
| fta | gnome-panel gnome-panel-data libgl1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx mesa-common-dev | 18:03 |
| fta | libgl1-mesa-glx: Breaks: nvidia-current but 275.09.07-0ubuntu1 is installed. | 18:04 |
| fta | gnome-panel: Breaks: libpanel-applet-3-0 but 1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6.5 is installed. | 18:04 |
| fta | Breaks: libpanel-applet2-0 but 1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6.5 is installed. | 18:04 |
| fta | Breaks: python-gnomeapplet but 2.32.0-0ubuntu3 is installed. | 18:04 |
| Omega` | how should I install fx5 on natty? | 18:04 |
| Omega` | is it in a ppa of ours? | 18:04 |
| micahg | Omega`: wait for me to push it to -security :) | 18:04 |
| Omega` | ah :) | 18:04 |
| micahg | fta: are you doing a dist-upgrade? | 18:04 |
| Omega` | very well! | 18:04 |
| micahg | Omega`: I'm running some final tests, should be some time today | 18:04 |
| Pici | Heya folks. I hear that Firefox 5 is currently building. Will 10.10 and 10.04 need to use a PPA to get it, or will it be landing in the same method as 11.04? | 18:38 |
| Pici | i.e. via security updates. | 18:40 |
| chrisccoulson | Pici, you'll need to use a PPA | 18:47 |
| Pici | chrisccoulson: Thanks. I'll update ubottu accordingly. | 18:47 |
| chrisccoulson | i've no idea when it will finish building, the lack of builders is a serious bottleneck at the moment | 18:47 |
| Pici | Thats fine. I just want some info to throw at users who will inevitably start asking soon. | 18:48 |
| * chrisccoulson bangs head against wall | 19:16 | |
| chrisccoulson | i've just spent the last 30 minutes trying to figure out why my label in the messaging indicator doesn't update when i try to change it in thunderbird, thinking that i'm doing something wrong again | 19:17 |
| chrisccoulson | and it turns out the indicator just doesn't update. i have to restart the indicator service for it to update | 19:17 |
| chrisccoulson | why do i always end up exposing all of these sorts of bugs in ubuntu? ;) | 19:18 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, how do you think we should handle the limit of 6 indicator entries in thunderbird? (ie, what do you think we should do if we get more than 6?) | 19:28 |
| chrisccoulson | (the 6 comes from the spec btw) | 19:29 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: mmhmm - I remember that limit | 19:29 |
| * m_conley thinks | 19:29 | |
| chrisccoulson | at the moment, we just ignore it :) | 19:29 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: how did Evolution solve that? | 19:29 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, it doesn't. but then, it only shows an indicator for the inbox associated with each account | 19:30 |
| chrisccoulson | (which isn't what the spec says you should do) | 19:30 |
| chrisccoulson | so you would only get 6 in evo if you have 6 accounts | 19:30 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, i was thinking of collapsing the indicators down in to per-account indicators, rather than per-folder (and then just combining the counts) | 19:31 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: yes - that would greatly simplify things | 19:31 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, i'll take a look at that this evening then :) | 19:32 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: k, thanks. :) | 19:32 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, did you see what i'd done so far? | 19:32 |
| chrisccoulson | i've pushed everything here atm: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/messagingmenu-extension/me-fixes | 19:32 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: oh, awesome - looking forward to merge requests. :) (and figuring out how to deal with merge requests with bzr / Lp...) | 19:33 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 19:33 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: oh yes, that's much better | 19:35 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: some good fixes / improvements in there. :) | 19:35 |
| m_conley | thanks for polishing my crappy code. ;) | 19:35 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, i've enjoyed working on it :) | 19:35 |
| chrisccoulson | and it's been a bit of a learning curve, having not really done much with thunderbird before | 19:36 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: and new stuff with jsctypes too - callbacks and whatnot | 19:41 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: it was very satisfying to figure out js callbacks. :) | 19:42 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's been interesting :) | 19:42 |
| fta | !ddeb | 19:49 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'ddeb' not found | 19:49 |
| fta | !dbgsym | 19:49 |
| ubot2 | dbgsym is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 19:49 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, the messaging menu is totally broken, i get the blue envelope, but all counters are stuck at 0 | 21:38 |
| fta | (with evo) | 21:38 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, i keep finding bugs whilst i'm working on the thunderbird integration too | 21:38 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a pain, because i have to spend time figuring out if it's a tbird issue or not ;) | 21:39 |
| fta | it used to work though | 21:39 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm not sure why it's so broken atm | 21:39 |
| === jdstrand_ is now known as jdstrand | ||
| BUGabundo | evening | 21:57 |
| fta | oh my, the notifications regressed too | 22:07 |
| fta | now they appear on top of fullscreen gl games, and block them | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | :) | 22:08 |
| fta | how i can i frag in those conditions | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | aahahaahahahahah | 22:09 |
| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | ||
| micahg | chrisccoulson: would you happen to know offhand how to test webfav? | 22:42 |
| chrisccoulson | you need to install the old netbook edition. it only works with that | 22:42 |
| chrisccoulson | you're not going to find anybody to test that tbh | 22:42 |
| micahg | so why do we have it in natty? | 22:42 |
| chrisccoulson | but the extension is like, 10 lines of code isn't it, and using interfaces which haven't changed since the beginning of time ;) | 22:43 |
| chrisccoulson | because the old netbook shell is still in the archive | 22:43 |
| chrisccoulson | it was used for the arm guys until we got unity-2d | 22:43 |
| micahg | ah, ok, would you know offhand which package? | 22:43 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure, i've never used it before | 22:44 |
| micahg | k, I'll hunt for it | 22:45 |
| micahg | mozvoikko looks fine though | 22:45 |
| asac | webfav adds a launcher item for a webpage afair ;) | 22:45 |
| micahg | asac: right, but only to the old shell, so to test it, I have to install the old shell :) | 22:45 |
| asac | was used by oem at some point | 22:45 |
| asac | hmm | 22:46 |
| asac | doesnt it just create a .desktop file? | 22:46 |
| micahg | ugh, I have to test on armel :) | 22:46 |
| micahg | :( | 22:46 |
| asac | no | 22:46 |
| asac | or is hte launcher removed on x86? | 22:47 |
| asac | should work on both | 22:47 |
| * micahg hunts for a .desktop file | 22:47 | |
| BUGabundo | oh look, its asac | 22:47 |
| asac | iirc it was not really arm | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | long time no see | 22:47 |
| asac | it was just unr | 22:47 |
| micahg | asac: the netbook-meta package is only on arm in natty | 22:47 |
| asac | heh | 22:47 |
| asac | right ... but i guess you can still install it on x86 somehow | 22:47 |
| asac | like ubuntu-netbook-edition | 22:47 |
| micahg | yeah, I don't see any ..desktop files | 22:47 |
| micahg | This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu Netbook system for | 22:48 |
| micahg | armel. Note that Ubuntu Netbook Edition doesn't exist anymore for other | 22:48 |
| micahg | architectures, as unity and many applications now handles different | 22:48 |
| micahg | screensize themselves. | 22:48 |
| * micahg guesses we should've convered it to arch:armel for natty... | 22:49 | |
| micahg | *converted | 22:49 |
| asac | seems to save /tmp/webfav | 22:49 |
| asac | seems to save /tmp/webfav/*.desktop | 22:49 |
| micahg | ah indeed | 22:50 |
| micahg | that seems silly | 22:50 |
| asac | feels really like oem super magic ;) | 22:50 |
| asac | someone probably added a hack to monitor that dictory and then make something with that | 22:50 |
| micahg | ok, let me see what to do about it | 22:50 |
| micahg | I forgot I have xubuntu on my arm netbook, so I can't even test it there :( | 22:51 |
| asac | well... talk to stevenk or someone from oem team if they remember | 22:51 |
| asac | i guess it can be killed | 22:51 |
| asac | chickencutlass | 22:52 |
| asac | less? | 22:52 |
| asac | not sure | 22:52 |
| asac | mfrey basically ;) | 22:52 |
| asac | micahg: if you just want to test check if the .desktop file is created at the plcae i mentioned | 22:53 |
| micahg | asac: yeah, it's there with the correct URL, that's considered a good check? | 22:53 |
| asac | feels like it ... i doubt though that there are any special consumers still ;) | 22:55 |
| asac | you should reall yfind out if this shouldnt be removed | 22:55 |
| micahg | yeah, we'll do that for oneiric, I guess I can ask if we need to keep bumping compatibility for future firefox versions as well | 22:55 |
| chrisccoulson | we'll need to bump it for every single release | 22:57 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley_away, i hit some issues with the indicator-collapsing idea, so i implemented the 6 limit a bit differently | 22:58 |
| chrisccoulson | the commit message explains why - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/messagingmenu-extension/me-fixes/revision/48 | 22:58 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: that means a USN for each release and if no one is using it, I'd rather not | 22:58 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, well, i have to bump it for every release, unless you've got another suggestion on how i can make it work without doing that ;) | 22:59 |
| chrisccoulson | asac! | 23:00 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 23:00 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, although, i guess hardly anyone uses webfav. i hope it's not blocking the firefox update ;) | 23:01 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: no, won't block, just a question of pushing the extension out now or not | 23:02 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, there's no reason not to. it's just a compatibility version bump, and the interfaces it uses haven't changed (and are unlikely to change tbh) | 23:02 |
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