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Korny1Evening, just a quick question, I'm considering migrating from sagetv(since it was bought out by google) to myth, I currently run a ubuntu box for my server,  just looking for anyone who's made that switch before and could give me pointers01:34
Korny1I'm also wondering if first generation nvidia ion atom computers work well as a front end or if I should stick with second gen?01:36
Shadow__XKorny1: i have not made the switch but have been using mythbuntu for around 3 years now01:49
Shadow__Xif you already have the ion machines i will urge you to test them, it seems they are a mixed blessing. Without the gpu to offload they are unable to handle hd01:50
Shadow__Xalso their power consumption could be lower01:50
Korny1I haven't bought anything yet, my sage extenders I will be selling after getting myth up and running,  I'm just looking at what hardware to consider for frontends01:56
Korny1My server is a bit overkill.... AMD 6core @3.2 and 12 gigs of ram :/01:57
Shadow__Xwell there are a lot options honestly. Its normally recommended to have a cpu that can handle hd streams without gpu offloading. Most recent processors that are above 2ghz should be able to handle it01:57
Korny1I'm thinking of network booting ion2 systems, but I'm wondering if they are just as laggy as the exenders from sage which function that way when accessing fan art01:58
Shadow__XKorny1: actually since you have a pretty server you can do real time commercial flagging on numerous shows at once01:58
Korny1Oh yes, I run 4 comskips at once right now :)01:58
Korny1plus handbrake01:58
Shadow__Xi gotcha01:59
Korny1I'm hoping to replicate what I'm doing now with sage, I record something, run it through my bash script which basically removes spanish audio streams and then remuxes and runs it through project x to comercial cut and then runs handbrake02:00
Shadow__Xwell mythtv does commercial flagging itself02:00
Korny1and convert it to 400-500 meg per hour episodes02:00
Shadow__Xand if you want to you can have it autimatically remove the cutlists for the commercials02:00
Shadow__Xalso you can again have it convert it down too02:01
Korny1Does it use the nuv format still? or can it do mkvs?02:01
Shadow__Xyou can convert it to .mp4 i am not sure about mkv's02:01
Korny1i see02:22
Korny1I'm assuming myth monitor input directorys? so if I use a program like sickbeard to catch up on shows I missed it can add them to the library?02:24
Shadow__XKorny1: there is mythvideo02:58
Korny1Shadow__X,  it looks as though the storage group function is similar to what I'm used to, where I don't have have the frontends access network shares but instead just accessable via the frontend03:01
Shadow__Xyup there are limitations though03:06
Shadow__Xiirc iso does not work there yet03:06
Korny1I don't use ISO's03:06
Shadow__Xi am sure they will add that feature03:07
Korny1Server munches on ISO's so quick that it takes like 14 minutes to convert a dvd to 700 meg mkv03:07
Korny1Which is almost lossless03:07
Shadow__Xoh ok03:07
Shadow__Xwhat will you be using to record03:08
Korny1Right now a HDhomerun03:08
Korny1and I use sickbeard for cable programs, thats why I was wondering about importing mediea03:08
Korny1media03:08
Shadow__Xthat works03:08
Korny1I MAY try out a HDhomerun prime if comcast doesn't completely lock up their extended basic03:09
Shadow__Xnow that i looked up what sickbeard is you should refrain from mentioning that type of software in here03:09
Korny1Ok03:09
Shadow__Xi currently record over firewire from my stb and i have comcast03:09
Shadow__Xi do not get premiums but i get most other channels03:10
Korny1And thats the copy freely flag03:10
Shadow__Xyes03:10
Korny1Good to know03:10
Korny13 tuner HD prime was only 249 not bad at all03:10
Shadow__Xwhich should be what i get when i eventually get a hd homerun prime03:11
Shadow__Xi will say what people get over copy freely can change03:11
Korny1yeah03:11
Shadow__Xso for example just because i get comedy central hd no problem you might not03:11
Shadow__Xit all depends but it seems like for the most part comcast is the same03:11
Korny1Yeah :/ For recording drives, does myth write to whatever drive has the most space?03:12
Korny1Or have that ability to configure03:12
Shadow__Xwith storage groups it does leveling03:12
Shadow__Xafaik that is03:12
Shadow__Xi just have one recording drive and a big pool for storage03:12
Korny1So it is possible to record a show and commercial flag an then have myth cut the commercials and then re-encode all automatically for archiving03:15
Shadow__Xafaik yes03:15
Korny1nice, I'm used to having to use plugins with sage to do that03:15
Shadow__Xby default mythtv commflags everything it records03:15
Shadow__Xso when you watch it the show will have cutlists03:16
Korny1yep I have those now, and then I have it archive it after I watch it03:16
Korny1with the comercials cut out03:16
Shadow__Xyeah you can do that03:17
Korny1Shadow__X,  this sounds silly, but my biggest worry is setting up the remote for the front ends lol03:17
Korny1I don't know why03:17
Shadow__Xwell if you have mce remotes mythbuntu control center makes it painless03:17
Korny1I've read there are a variety of remotes, some which emulate a keyboard, some a mouse, I just want to make sure I get a good one not a super cheap japanese knockoff03:18
Korny1errr03:18
Korny1Chinese knockoff03:18
Shadow__Xmy remote looks like this one03:20
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Shadow__Xbut honestly afaik most remotes that say mce remote with a usb dongle should work03:20
Korny1So something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880121001&cm_re=MCE_remote-_-80-121-001-_-Product would work?03:22
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Shadow__XKorny1: yeah that should work. Also you could go to #mythtv-users and ask there about going from sagetv to mythtv03:24
Korny1Thank you for your help and input btw03:24
Shadow__Xyup03:25
qwebirc41656I'm wondering if someone can give me some help trying to setup a new install of mythbuntu. I downloaded the latest image (11.04 - checksums correct) and booted from the CD and attempted a full install but it just hung for over 24 hours after choosing installation type. System is a Asus P6T motherboard (X58), i7 920, 12GB ram, 240 SSD main drive and 4 other hard drives, nvidia 470 gfx card, hauppauge 2250 tuner. I'm curren03:59
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