[02:15] <milleja46> hi
[02:15] <milleja46> i finally figured out what makes the sidebar disappear :D
[03:16] <holstein> milleja46: ?
[03:16] <milleja46> holstein: you have to have a program either maxed out in size or have something in it's area :P
[03:17] <milleja46> it kinda hit me while mowing grass what it was that made it disappear and reappear...
[03:20]  * milleja46 loves those random moments when he discovers or figures out how to make something work...
[03:20] <holstein> hehe
[03:20] <milleja46> holstein: don't tell me you're testing that theory now?
[03:21] <holstein> milleja46: nah, i dont have 11.04 on anything handy
[03:22] <holstein> i have it on a testing machine at home
[03:22] <milleja46> aww what a shame
[03:23] <holstein> yeah?
[03:23] <holstein> im having a great time in 10.04 :)
[03:23] <milleja46> ehh i really like 11.04 alot better than previous
[03:24] <milleja46> versions
[03:24] <holstein> unity is not for me
[03:24] <holstein> theres nothing in 11.04 i feel like i *must* have
[03:24] <milleja46> holstein: it is for me :D and it'll get better with time(don't perfer games made with it though)
[03:24] <holstein> there are some things about 10.04 i need though
[03:24] <milleja46> holstein: well i bet in 12.04 it'll be better
[03:25] <holstein> milleja46: i'll let you know :)
[03:25] <milleja46> holstein: their not availible in 11?
[03:25] <holstein> i'll probably put 11.10 on my netbook soon
[03:25]  * milleja46 needs to get a netbook just for linux stuff :P
[03:25] <holstein> ubuntustudio is switching to XFCE, and i want to do some testing there
[03:25] <milleja46> nice
[03:26] <milleja46> well i'm gonna head out and go to bed and be back in the morning :D
[03:26] <holstein> thats why i have 10.10 and 11.04 installs
[03:26] <holstein> milleja46: GN
[03:26] <milleja46> holstein: before i head out, why don't you dual boot the two? i bet it's possible
[03:27] <holstein> im actually triple booting them on my studio laptop
[03:27] <holstein> but, i dont really want/need anything but 10.04 on my production machine
[03:27] <holstein> or my server
[03:27] <holstein> my netbook could move up though
[03:30] <milleja46> well i definitly need to get a extra computer possibly a netbook fully devoted to linux distros and similar
[03:30] <holstein> i got a few
[03:30] <holstein> i got an hp mini that is pretty sweet
[03:30] <holstein> one of the early ones
[03:30] <holstein> came with suse
[03:30] <holstein> the via chips are a PITA
[03:30] <holstein> but, its got an express card slot
[03:30] <holstein> i have an EEE900 that came with xandros
[03:31] <holstein> and i got a new-ish 1001p eee from craigslist
[03:31] <holstein> kinda recently
[03:31] <holstein> i saved the win7 install on it, but i havent used it
[03:31] <holstein> next time, im just going to wipe the whole thing
[03:32] <milleja46> well i still use win 7 just because of the fact alot of games i play which most don't even know exist are windows only and some of my best stuff is windows only
[03:32] <milleja46> plus iTunes is windows only and i need the store from time to time as well for apps and the such
[03:33] <milleja46> (windows only for me because mac is expensive)
[03:33] <milleja46> walmart and radioshack are going to become my best friends for computer stuff since they are so cheap on some of it
[03:33] <holstein> i have an osx machine in the house
[03:33] <holstein> my girlfriend uses it mostly
[03:34] <milleja46> holstein: i will once i can build up the cash too expensive when you don't have a job :P
[03:34] <holstein> i tunes on windows is pathetic
[03:34] <milleja46> it is, but the only way i like it, messing around with apps and all that without itunes is just odd
[03:35] <holstein> hey, to each his own
[03:35] <holstein> thats why pencils have erasers
[03:35] <holstein> so i can pull them off and throw them at you while you're using itunes ;)
[03:35] <milleja46> well bed time before i stay up too late, gotta take trash out early because hopefully last day of these cans :P
[03:35] <holstein> GN
[03:36] <milleja46> though i'll have two to haul when those start to circulate -_-
[03:36] <holstein> nice to see a new-ish face around here :)
[03:39] <_marx_> no doubt
[11:54] <milleja46> hi
[12:01] <_marx_> moanin'
[12:05] <milleja46> _marx_: mornin'
[14:37] <BugeyeD> milleja46: most of my mental breakthroughs occur while mowing. i should probably mow more often.
[14:38] <milleja46> BugeyeD: mine just happen at the most random of moments XD
[14:38] <BugeyeD> holstein: where were you during self? did you show up and not track me down?
[14:38] <milleja46> and mowing just happened to be that random moment
[14:39] <BugeyeD> mowing is about the only mindless task i have, so that's when my brain gets a breather.
[14:39] <BugeyeD> holstein: i kept my word and wore an openbsd shirt on the busiest day. :)
[14:40] <BugeyeD> btw, any rumblings about having ubuntuone support outside of, ahem, ubuntu?
[14:41] <milleja46>  BugeyeD: i have several mindless tasks but mowing is the only one i've been able to stick too...i need to get into learning PyQt
[14:43]  * milleja46 doesn't know where he put his PyQt book on his computer XD
[14:46] <BugeyeD> i'm betting that'd be hard to do while mowing
[14:46] <milleja46> ha ha
[14:48]  * milleja46 is looking to be a software/game dev after high school
[14:53] <milleja46> just gotta find where i put that book and it's on the host OS not on ubuntu XD
[15:00] <milleja46> b?VnkglnGVFn';lgmhjnm';hfgnjkgfhoitfcxjh
[15:00] <milleja46>  gjfsrghir
[15:02] <milleja46> ^whoops sorry about that -_-
[15:11] <milleja46> hmm, anyone know how to use the version
[15:11] <milleja46> hmm, anyone know how to use the windows version of ubuntu-one?*
[15:15] <holstein> BugeyeD: i didnt make it
[15:15] <holstein> i should have, but i got busy around the house
[15:15] <milleja46> brb going into quassel and getting out of empathy
[15:16] <holstein> it was my understanding that there would be ubuntuone windows and OSX clients at some point
[15:17] <holstein> i didnt read that anywhere officially though
[15:19] <BugeyeD> i bought music via ubuntu's new store and the files are of course stored on uo. so here i am at work, and our corp proxy won't allow connection to uo. grrr.
[15:19] <BugeyeD> i'm missing me some joe satriani. :/
[15:20] <holstein> hehe
[15:21] <BugeyeD> holstein: i figured as much, but wondered ... i was hanging out with jim (sudo make coffee) and someone from your neck of the woods started chatting us up. i introduced myself (first name only) and shook his hand but detected no glimmer of recognition. so i assumed it was not you.
[15:27] <milleja46> ok i'm back :D
[15:28] <holstein> milleja46: o/
[15:29] <milleja46> now just to figure out how to use ubuntuone client on windows, and set up quassel on windows XD
[15:31] <holstein> i want to be clear that if windows works for folks thats great
[15:32] <holstein> i think windows is getting better and better all the time
[15:32] <holstein> BUT, i feel like one of the best things i did was wipe windows
[15:32] <milleja46> yea the only true flaw is security
[15:32] <holstein> i remember trying to get samba running
[15:32] <holstein> trying to get linux to talke to windows
[15:33] <milleja46> only one windows product i can't stand: windows server
[15:33] <holstein> i remember having a mind-limbering idea one day "what if i go the other way"
[15:33] <holstein> i started doing ssh instead
[15:33] <holstein> and making windows connect however it could
[15:33] <holstein> with sftp or puTTy
[15:34] <holstein> *much* easier setup, and more stable in my use cases
[15:34] <holstein> not to mention security
[15:35] <holstein> i strive to *not* be snooty about windows
[15:35] <holstein> i want folks to use what works for them, whatever that is
[16:14] <BugeyeD> volkswagens work for me
[16:14] <BugeyeD> so do jeeps
[16:14]  * holstein 's jeep runs linux ;)
[16:15] <BugeyeD> my current jeep is a 4-cylinder. not even strong enough for netbook edition.
[16:15] <BugeyeD> my last one ran compiz, though.
[16:27] <milleja46> eww jeeps....gas guzzlers
[16:27] <milleja46> i'll stick to my honda civic :)
[16:36] <BugeyeD> my jeep gets 20mpg, almost unheard of for a jeep. that's the reason for the 4cyl. of course my vws get much better. :)
[16:37] <Tracy_P> Is it an old carburetor based engine?
[16:37] <BugeyeD> no, the jeep is a '99 wrangler. all but one of the vws have a carb though.
[16:38] <BugeyeD> and i'm getting ready to sell the one fi.
[16:38] <BugeyeD> the one with fi, that is.
[16:38] <BugeyeD> of course the one with fi gets 30+ mpg, i just never drive it.
[16:39] <BugeyeD> it's fun, though. a gti. a few of my buddies have them and race them.
[16:39] <BugeyeD> i have two jobs, they have a life.
[16:40] <Tracy_P> you'll have a retirement, they'll be scraping by
[16:42] <Tracy_P> I know this is OT, but I had an older car and thought about using this until I found out I couldn't get it installed after a specific sensor that would cause the computer to freak out. http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/HHO-Generators.php
[16:43] <Tracy_P> OT for ubuntu, that is
[16:49] <BugeyeD> i have an hho generator, just haven't had time to install it yet. and of course i'm getting ready to sell the car it was purchased for. i'm sure it'll work on something else. perhaps my jeep.
[16:51] <Tracy_P> I've entertained the idea of having a jeep as a second car. I've just not put myself there. Recently purchased a new car, so it will be a few years before I decide to think about it again.
[16:51] <Tracy_P> I'd put an hho on the jeep, if it's capable. Less computer to be in the way.
[16:52] <milleja46> ok quick question, how did we get on the subject of cars? XD
[16:52]  * milleja46 now wants to watch cars 2 XD
[16:54]  * Tracy_P shrugs.
[16:54] <Tracy_P> Was the topic when I got here this morning.
[16:55] <Tracy_P> They made a sequel to that full length cartoon?
[16:55] <milleja46> Tracy_P: yea, haven't you seen the commmercials?
[16:56] <Tracy_P> I don't have TV/Cable/Satellite by choice.
[16:56] <Tracy_P> I use Privoxy to block most adverts on the web.
[16:56] <milleja46> Tracy_P: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg5hj2c5Nkk&feature=channel_video_title
[16:57] <milleja46> now somehow mater is a spy and has to save queen from people trying to ruin a grand prix
[16:58] <milleja46> i'd rather have tv so i can watch boomerang
[17:00] <Tracy_P> I first read that as bloomberg.
[17:00] <milleja46> XD
[17:00] <Tracy_P> Okay, I'll watch the sequel.
[17:00] <milleja46> boomerang is the classic version of cartoonnetwork showing stuff like flintstones  and jetsons :D
[17:03] <Tracy_P> I found I get irritated by commercials, so I discontinued the cable service at home. More time for my studies for my day job and personal conquests.
[17:03] <milleja46> that's why i mute the commercials and do something like computer stuff when they're on
[17:04]  * milleja46 can't stand most of the stuff made today....
[17:04] <Tracy_P> not made to last, made to increase profits
[17:06]  * milleja46 tries to find how to sync stuff from windows host to ubuntu1....hmm
[17:10] <milleja46> crud....have to sign out windows ubuntu1 XD
[17:11] <Tracy_P> What?
[17:11] <milleja46> i was trying to copy a pdf file i had on windows to ubuntu vm
[17:11] <Tracy_P> Using VirtualBox or ?
[17:11] <milleja46> virtual box
[17:12] <milleja46> it's syncing right now in buntu
[17:12] <Tracy_P> so it's working?
[17:12] <milleja46> i think so
[17:13] <Tracy_P> VirtualBox extensions don't allow drag/drop support?
[17:13] <milleja46> not that i know of
[17:15] <milleja46> yay! there it is!
[17:20] <Tracy_P> bomb threat in Downtown Asheville.
[17:33] <milleja46> geez 164 updates to my ubuntu vm XD
[17:41] <Tracy_P> apparently I used the wrong word and my internet was turned off for 15 minutes as a warning
[17:42] <milleja46> sometimes i really think my sister strives to do nothing but make me mad
[17:56] <Tracy_P> siblings can do that for a good part of ones life
[17:58] <milleja46> she can mess with anything of mine but when it comes to my computer stuff i have a right to get mad :)
[21:44] <milleja46> hi
[22:30] <holstein> milleja46: o/
[22:30] <milleja46> holstein: hi
[22:35]  * milleja46 is using quassel :D ...just not the right way since he doesn't have a proper quassel core....
[22:45]  * BugeyeD is using irssi and screen. possibly switching from screen to tmux at some point in the not-too-distant future.
[22:45] <BugeyeD> but i've been doing irssi/screen for *years*
[22:46] <holstein> yeah, ive been using irssr+screen for a few years now
[22:46] <holstein> i cant imagine going back
[22:46] <holstein> xchat worked well though
[22:46] <BugeyeD> i've been using irssi/screen since the days of pine. which is long since gone, of course, but i still keep it server-based by using webmail.
[23:02] <milleja46> ok i'm back :D
[23:03] <_marx_> BugeyeD: alpine
[23:03] <_marx_> a one word reply in honor of mr. tarvid
[23:04] <_marx_> no freeze today and i did not lock my screen this morning