| blue379 | hi | 02:30 |
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| blue379 | I have recently got a machine that I want to put ubuntustudio on, and this will be my first attempt, but I've read lots on it, and I have two (hopefully simple) questions that I have not found yet | 02:32 |
| blue379 | the first, when I went to download, it looks like there is ONLY the alternate distribution DVD image available (on all versions); is that the one we are supposed to use, or is there somewhere else I should download? | 02:33 |
| blue379 | 2nd: any idea if vmware running the old windows XP will be ok, and allow usb devices to work inside the vm? | 02:34 |
| * blue379 serves coffee, juice, etc while he waits, and offers thanx in advance :) | 02:35 | |
| pietro10 | Hi. I installed Ubuntu Studio by installing ubuntustudio-desktop from within Ubuntu 11.04, and now Firefox will not let me drag images to the Desktop. What's going on? | 02:59 |
| holstein | hey pietro10 | 03:16 |
| holstein | pietro10: im assuming what you really wanted was the studio applications | 03:17 |
| holstein | not the studio 'look and feel' | 03:17 |
| holstein | i would give a read to | 03:17 |
| holstein | !vanilla | 03:17 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 03:17 |
| holstein | and just open synaptic or whatever and search ubuntustudio | 03:17 |
| holstein | i didnt realize you could drag images to the desktop | 03:18 |
| pietro10 | yeah; I was intending on trying it out (and planning to move to US 11.10); I originally got Linux to test my music programs there as well as on windows/mac | 03:18 |
| pietro10 | eh | 03:18 |
| holstein | i know the way i do it is right-click and save-as on the desktop | 03:18 |
| holstein | that'll work* | 03:18 |
| pietro10 | so if I remove ubuntustudio-desktop I should go back to the old configuration? | 03:18 |
| holstein | OR, you can just go back to the normal ubuntu-desktop | 03:18 |
| holstein | pietro10: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 03:18 |
| holstein | ^^ look at the output | 03:18 |
| pietro10 | oh ok | 03:19 |
| holstein | see if ubuntustudio-desktop is going to be removed | 03:19 |
| holstein | *make sure it is | 03:19 |
| holstein | pietro10: we will be in XFCE on 11.10 | 03:19 |
| pietro10 | yeah | 03:19 |
| pietro10 | (which is why I said I was going to wait for 11.10) | 03:20 |
| pietro10 | meh | 03:20 |
| pietro10 | anyway the apt-get line tells me already installed | 03:20 |
| pietro10 | should I just remove ubuntustudio-desktop? | 03:20 |
| holstein | pietro10: when you sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, you should see ubuntustudio-desktop being offered as removed | 03:21 |
| holstein | if not, let me know | 03:21 |
| holstein | if you want, go grab the xubuntu alpha for 11.10, and add the studio meta-packages :) | 03:21 |
| pietro10 | no it's quitting, saying "ubuntu-desktop already latest version" | 03:21 |
| holstein | OH | 03:22 |
| holstein | pietro10: you can probabaly just log out and choose it in the session manager then | 03:22 |
| pietro10 | ok | 03:22 |
| pietro10 | eh, that didn't come up as an option so I just removed ubuntustudio-desktop and now it works | 03:26 |
| pietro10 | thanks anyway | 03:26 |
| blue977 | hi | 04:58 |
| holstein | blue977: o/ | 05:02 |
| blue977 | I finally saved enough to build a machine for ubuntustudio; and I read lots, (this is my first attempt) but I got two questions I could not find answers to | 05:34 |
| blue977 | first, when I went to get the dvd .iso - all I see is alternate distributions, (same for every version), is there somewhere else I should be lookin? | 05:35 |
| blue977 | second, any idea if I can use vmware to run a windows XP with usb devices on the inside? | 05:36 |
| * blue977 serves coffee, juice, etc to everyone | 05:37 | |
| holstein | blue977: we only have the one installer right now | 05:39 |
| holstein | the bigger than a CD sized alternate installer | 05:40 |
| holstein | check out.. | 05:40 |
| holstein | !vanilla | 05:40 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 05:40 |
| holstein | if you want, you can install normal ubuntu from the normal live desktop CD | 05:40 |
| holstein | *i suggest checking out *some* live distro first | 05:40 |
| blue977 | ok; I just though I was missing something and didn't want to download the wrong one | 05:40 |
| holstein | nah, thats it :) | 05:41 |
| holstein | Vbox doesnt care where the guest OS's hard drive is | 05:41 |
| holstein | you might though | 05:41 |
| holstein | if the USB performances it not up to speed | 05:41 |
| blue977 | is vbox like vmware? for vm's? | 05:41 |
| holstein | AH | 05:42 |
| holstein | yeah, VMware *should* be the same | 05:42 |
| blue977 | I was going to put ubuntu inside windows cause I had that, but windows wont let usb work inside vm's | 05:42 |
| holstein | AFAIK, virtual box doesnt care | 05:43 |
| holstein | even on windows | 05:43 |
| holstein | but, i havent been in windows in a while | 05:43 |
| blue977 | kewl :) | 05:43 |
| holstein | and i never wanted a guest on a USB drive | 05:43 |
| holstein | blue977: you dont want ubuntustudio virtualized anyways | 05:43 |
| holstein | i mean, you can | 05:43 |
| holstein | but you wont be able to use 'the goods' | 05:43 |
| holstein | really depends on what you are doing | 05:44 |
| blue977 | oh | 05:44 |
| blue977 | for starters I got to learn everything first | 05:44 |
| holstein | well, it wont take you long to learn that | 05:45 |
| holstein | assuming you are wanting to use JACK, and do audio production | 05:45 |
| holstein | if you are doing graphics, you might get away with it | 05:45 |
| holstein | you could do video editing too probably | 05:45 |
| holstein | just brutally slow | 05:45 |
| holstein | you want to do it the other way anyways | 05:45 |
| holstein | you want windows virtualized | 05:46 |
| blue977 | this is going to be the first machine I got for me and I'm so excited | 05:46 |
| holstein | you can save 'snaptshots' of guest OS's | 05:46 |
| holstein | unless you use windows more like an appliance, and dont get online with it | 05:48 |
| blue977 | been saving up since november; I got the cheapest intel quad, 4 gb mem, a new motherboard, an old nvidia pcie 256 video card, and a dvd-rw, and a 500 gb western digital caviar blue | 05:50 |
| blue977 | and there is space for 4 more gb of ran too | 05:50 |
| blue977 | and a FREE 22" old vga monitor cause someone got a flat one and he didnt want this one | 05:51 |
| holstein | nice | 05:52 |
| holstein | i got a dual core finally | 05:52 |
| holstein | got it for recovering some data | 05:53 |
| holstein | that and a laptop of similar specs | 05:53 |
| blue977 | mine is a desktop | 05:53 |
| blue977 | old case but I got a new power supply with red green yellow and blue lights | 05:54 |
| blue977 | and the fan has blue lights | 05:54 |
| holstein | right... i got a decent desktop machine and a laptop for that job | 05:54 |
| blue977 | why is the video slow? | 05:55 |
| blue977 | will it be too slow to record a vcr to make it for a dvd and edit out the commercials? | 05:55 |
| holstein | what video? | 05:56 |
| holstein | depends on the capture card i guess | 05:56 |
| holstein | what capture rig did you get? | 05:56 |
| blue977 | you said the video editing was brutally slow | 05:56 |
| holstein | i said it *would* be | 05:57 |
| holstein | in VM or Vbox | 05:57 |
| blue977 | oh | 05:57 |
| holstein | rendering would be slower than necessary | 05:57 |
| blue977 | but if ubuntu is the main os then its ok | 05:57 |
| holstein | ok? | 05:57 |
| holstein | i mean, its not magic | 05:58 |
| holstein | you can still break things ;) | 05:58 |
| holstein | i personally dont do media editing in general in virtual machines | 05:58 |
| holstein | im sure its do-able though | 05:58 |
| blue977 | I will try to put it on as the main os and make windows inside | 05:59 |
| holstein | what graphics card did you go with? | 06:00 |
| holstein | O I C | 06:00 |
| holstein | nvidia | 06:00 |
| holstein | i got a dual head nvidia recently | 06:00 |
| holstein | at the charity shop | 06:00 |
| holstein | works pretty well | 06:00 |
| blue977 | its a nvidia 256 mb pci-e with 2 ports so I can have use a old vga monitor for the 2nd one too - lots of those free | 06:01 |
| blue977 | I think it is 6400 or 6800 or something like that | 06:01 |
| blue977 | not a good idea to turn on the light to see, cause my mom is not asleep | 06:02 |
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| blue977 | I really want to try to make a full length animated video with awesome music too, and make a zillion dollars cause that would be really amazing | 06:04 |
| holstein | hey, it could happen :) | 06:06 |
| blue977 | on 500 gb drive if I keep 100 gb for the vm for windows, should I make the rest in one partition or split it for programs and data separate? | 06:06 |
| holstein | whatever you want | 06:06 |
| holstein | i just do buntu in one big partition | 06:07 |
| holstein | but, the seperate /home is usually considered more 'pro' | 06:07 |
| blue977 | ok | 06:07 |
| blue977 | I'm so excited :) | 06:08 |
| blue977 | thanx so much! I am going to download that now, and as soon as exams are over I will get busy on it | 06:10 |
| holstein | cool | 06:12 |
| holstein | blue977: welcome to the channel :) | 06:12 |
| blue977 | :) | 06:17 |
| blue977 | I'm going to bed before I get my butt kicked; thanks again | 06:22 |
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