[02:30] <blue379> hi
[02:32] <blue379> I have recently got a machine that I want to put ubuntustudio on, and this will be my first attempt, but I've read lots on it, and I have two (hopefully simple) questions that I have not found yet
[02:33] <blue379> the first, when I went to download, it looks like there is ONLY the alternate distribution DVD image available (on all versions);  is that the one we are supposed to use, or is there somewhere else I should download?
[02:34] <blue379> 2nd:  any idea if vmware running the old windows XP will be ok, and allow usb devices to work inside the vm?
[02:35]  * blue379 serves coffee, juice, etc while he waits, and offers thanx in advance :)
[02:59] <pietro10> Hi. I installed Ubuntu Studio by installing ubuntustudio-desktop from within Ubuntu 11.04, and now Firefox will not let me drag images to the Desktop. What's going on?
[03:16] <holstein> hey pietro10
[03:17] <holstein> pietro10: im assuming what you really wanted was the studio applications
[03:17] <holstein> not the studio 'look and feel'
[03:17] <holstein> i would give a read to
[03:17] <holstein> !vanilla
[03:17] <holstein> and just open synaptic or whatever and search ubuntustudio
[03:18] <holstein> i didnt realize you could drag images to the desktop
[03:18] <pietro10> yeah; I was intending on trying it out (and planning to move to US 11.10); I originally got Linux to test my music programs there as well as on windows/mac
[03:18] <pietro10> eh
[03:18] <holstein> i know the way i do it is right-click and save-as on the desktop
[03:18] <holstein> that'll work*
[03:18] <pietro10> so if I remove ubuntustudio-desktop I should go back to the old configuration?
[03:18] <holstein> OR, you can just go back to the normal ubuntu-desktop
[03:18] <holstein> pietro10: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:18] <holstein> ^^ look at the output
[03:19] <pietro10> oh ok
[03:19] <holstein> see if ubuntustudio-desktop is going to be removed
[03:19] <holstein> *make sure it is
[03:19] <holstein> pietro10: we will be in XFCE on 11.10
[03:19] <pietro10> yeah
[03:20] <pietro10> (which is why I said I was going to wait for 11.10)
[03:20] <pietro10> meh
[03:20] <pietro10> anyway the apt-get line tells me already installed
[03:20] <pietro10> should I just remove ubuntustudio-desktop?
[03:21] <holstein> pietro10: when you sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, you should see ubuntustudio-desktop being offered as removed
[03:21] <holstein> if not, let me know
[03:21] <holstein> if you want, go grab the xubuntu alpha for 11.10, and add the studio meta-packages :)
[03:21] <pietro10> no it's quitting, saying "ubuntu-desktop already latest version"
[03:22] <holstein> OH
[03:22] <holstein> pietro10: you can probabaly just log out and choose it in the session manager then
[03:22] <pietro10> ok
[03:26] <pietro10> eh, that didn't come up as an option so I just removed ubuntustudio-desktop and now it works
[03:26] <pietro10> thanks anyway
[04:58] <blue977> hi
[05:02] <holstein> blue977: o/
[05:34] <blue977> I finally saved enough to build a machine for ubuntustudio; and I read lots, (this is my first attempt) but I got two questions I could not find answers to
[05:35] <blue977> first, when I went to get the dvd .iso - all I see is alternate distributions, (same for every version), is there somewhere else I should be lookin?
[05:36] <blue977> second, any idea if I can use vmware to run a windows XP with usb devices on the inside?
[05:37]  * blue977 serves coffee, juice, etc to everyone
[05:39] <holstein> blue977: we only have the one installer right now
[05:40] <holstein> the bigger than a CD sized alternate installer
[05:40] <holstein> check out..
[05:40] <holstein> !vanilla
[05:40] <holstein> if you want, you can install normal ubuntu from the normal live desktop CD
[05:40] <holstein> *i suggest checking out *some* live distro first
[05:40] <blue977> ok; I just though I was missing something and didn't want to download the wrong one
[05:41] <holstein> nah, thats it :)
[05:41] <holstein> Vbox doesnt care where the guest OS's hard drive is
[05:41] <holstein> you might though
[05:41] <holstein> if the USB performances it not up to speed
[05:41] <blue977> is vbox like vmware? for vm's?
[05:42] <holstein> AH
[05:42] <holstein> yeah, VMware *should* be the same
[05:42] <blue977> I was going to put ubuntu inside windows cause I had that, but windows wont let usb work inside vm's
[05:43] <holstein> AFAIK, virtual box doesnt care
[05:43] <holstein> even on windows
[05:43] <holstein> but, i havent been in windows in a while
[05:43] <blue977> kewl :)
[05:43] <holstein> and i never wanted a guest on a USB drive
[05:43] <holstein> blue977: you dont want ubuntustudio virtualized anyways
[05:43] <holstein> i mean, you can
[05:43] <holstein> but you wont be able to use 'the goods'
[05:44] <holstein> really depends on what you are doing
[05:44] <blue977> oh
[05:44] <blue977> for starters I got to learn everything first
[05:45] <holstein> well, it wont take you long to learn that
[05:45] <holstein> assuming you are wanting to use JACK, and do audio production
[05:45] <holstein> if you are doing graphics, you might get away with it
[05:45] <holstein> you could do video editing too probably
[05:45] <holstein> just brutally slow
[05:45] <holstein> you want to do it the other way anyways
[05:46] <holstein> you want windows virtualized
[05:46] <blue977> this is going to be the first machine I got for me and I'm so excited
[05:46] <holstein> you can save 'snaptshots' of guest OS's
[05:48] <holstein> unless you use windows more like an appliance, and dont get online with it
[05:50] <blue977> been saving up since november; I got the cheapest intel quad, 4 gb mem, a new motherboard, an old nvidia pcie 256 video card, and a dvd-rw, and a 500 gb western digital caviar blue
[05:50] <blue977> and there is space for 4 more gb of ran too
[05:51] <blue977> and a FREE 22" old vga monitor cause someone got a flat one and he didnt want this one
[05:52] <holstein> nice
[05:52] <holstein> i got a dual core finally
[05:53] <holstein> got it for recovering some data
[05:53] <holstein> that and a laptop of similar specs
[05:53] <blue977> mine is a desktop
[05:54] <blue977> old case but I got a new power supply with red green yellow and blue lights
[05:54] <blue977> and the fan has blue lights
[05:54] <holstein> right... i got a decent desktop machine and a laptop for that job
[05:55] <blue977> why is the video slow?
[05:55] <blue977> will it be too slow to record a vcr to make it for a dvd and edit out the commercials?
[05:56] <holstein> what video?
[05:56] <holstein> depends on the capture card i guess
[05:56] <holstein> what capture rig did you get?
[05:56] <blue977> you said the video editing was brutally slow
[05:57] <holstein> i said it *would* be
[05:57] <holstein> in VM or Vbox
[05:57] <blue977> oh
[05:57] <holstein> rendering would be slower than necessary
[05:57] <blue977> but if ubuntu is the main os then its ok
[05:57] <holstein> ok?
[05:58] <holstein> i mean, its not magic
[05:58] <holstein> you can still break things ;)
[05:58] <holstein> i personally dont do media editing in general in virtual machines
[05:58] <holstein> im sure its do-able though
[05:59] <blue977> I will try to put it on as the main os and make windows inside
[06:00] <holstein> what graphics card did you go with?
[06:00] <holstein> O I C
[06:00] <holstein> nvidia
[06:00] <holstein> i got a dual head nvidia recently
[06:00] <holstein> at the charity shop
[06:00] <holstein> works pretty well
[06:01] <blue977> its a nvidia 256 mb pci-e with 2 ports so I can have use a old vga monitor for the 2nd one too - lots of those free
[06:01] <blue977> I think it is 6400 or 6800 or something like that
[06:02] <blue977> not a good idea to turn on the light to see, cause my mom is not asleep
[06:04] <blue977> I really want to try to make a full length animated video with awesome music too, and make a zillion dollars cause that would be really amazing
[06:06] <holstein> hey, it could happen :)
[06:06] <blue977> on 500 gb drive if I keep 100 gb for the vm for windows, should I make the rest in one partition or split it for programs and data separate?
[06:06] <holstein> whatever you want
[06:07] <holstein> i just do buntu in one big partition
[06:07] <holstein> but, the seperate /home is usually considered more 'pro'
[06:07] <blue977> ok
[06:08] <blue977> I'm so excited :)
[06:10] <blue977> thanx so much!  I am going to download that now, and as soon as exams are over I will get busy on it
[06:12] <holstein> cool
[06:12] <holstein> blue977: welcome to the channel :)
[06:17] <blue977> :)
[06:22] <blue977> I'm going to bed before I get my butt kicked; thanks again