[02:30] hi [02:32] I have recently got a machine that I want to put ubuntustudio on, and this will be my first attempt, but I've read lots on it, and I have two (hopefully simple) questions that I have not found yet [02:33] the first, when I went to download, it looks like there is ONLY the alternate distribution DVD image available (on all versions); is that the one we are supposed to use, or is there somewhere else I should download? [02:34] 2nd: any idea if vmware running the old windows XP will be ok, and allow usb devices to work inside the vm? [02:35] * blue379 serves coffee, juice, etc while he waits, and offers thanx in advance :) [02:59] Hi. I installed Ubuntu Studio by installing ubuntustudio-desktop from within Ubuntu 11.04, and now Firefox will not let me drag images to the Desktop. What's going on? [03:16] hey pietro10 [03:17] pietro10: im assuming what you really wanted was the studio applications [03:17] not the studio 'look and feel' [03:17] i would give a read to [03:17] !vanilla [03:17] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [03:17] and just open synaptic or whatever and search ubuntustudio [03:18] i didnt realize you could drag images to the desktop [03:18] yeah; I was intending on trying it out (and planning to move to US 11.10); I originally got Linux to test my music programs there as well as on windows/mac [03:18] eh [03:18] i know the way i do it is right-click and save-as on the desktop [03:18] that'll work* [03:18] so if I remove ubuntustudio-desktop I should go back to the old configuration? [03:18] OR, you can just go back to the normal ubuntu-desktop [03:18] pietro10: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [03:18] ^^ look at the output [03:19] oh ok [03:19] see if ubuntustudio-desktop is going to be removed [03:19] *make sure it is [03:19] pietro10: we will be in XFCE on 11.10 [03:19] yeah [03:20] (which is why I said I was going to wait for 11.10) [03:20] meh [03:20] anyway the apt-get line tells me already installed [03:20] should I just remove ubuntustudio-desktop? [03:21] pietro10: when you sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, you should see ubuntustudio-desktop being offered as removed [03:21] if not, let me know [03:21] if you want, go grab the xubuntu alpha for 11.10, and add the studio meta-packages :) [03:21] no it's quitting, saying "ubuntu-desktop already latest version" [03:22] OH [03:22] pietro10: you can probabaly just log out and choose it in the session manager then [03:22] ok [03:26] eh, that didn't come up as an option so I just removed ubuntustudio-desktop and now it works [03:26] thanks anyway [04:58] hi [05:02] blue977: o/ [05:34] I finally saved enough to build a machine for ubuntustudio; and I read lots, (this is my first attempt) but I got two questions I could not find answers to [05:35] first, when I went to get the dvd .iso - all I see is alternate distributions, (same for every version), is there somewhere else I should be lookin? [05:36] second, any idea if I can use vmware to run a windows XP with usb devices on the inside? [05:37] * blue977 serves coffee, juice, etc to everyone [05:39] blue977: we only have the one installer right now [05:40] the bigger than a CD sized alternate installer [05:40] check out.. [05:40] !vanilla [05:40] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [05:40] if you want, you can install normal ubuntu from the normal live desktop CD [05:40] *i suggest checking out *some* live distro first [05:40] ok; I just though I was missing something and didn't want to download the wrong one [05:41] nah, thats it :) [05:41] Vbox doesnt care where the guest OS's hard drive is [05:41] you might though [05:41] if the USB performances it not up to speed [05:41] is vbox like vmware? for vm's? [05:42] AH [05:42] yeah, VMware *should* be the same [05:42] I was going to put ubuntu inside windows cause I had that, but windows wont let usb work inside vm's [05:43] AFAIK, virtual box doesnt care [05:43] even on windows [05:43] but, i havent been in windows in a while [05:43] kewl :) [05:43] and i never wanted a guest on a USB drive [05:43] blue977: you dont want ubuntustudio virtualized anyways [05:43] i mean, you can [05:43] but you wont be able to use 'the goods' [05:44] really depends on what you are doing [05:44] oh [05:44] for starters I got to learn everything first [05:45] well, it wont take you long to learn that [05:45] assuming you are wanting to use JACK, and do audio production [05:45] if you are doing graphics, you might get away with it [05:45] you could do video editing too probably [05:45] just brutally slow [05:45] you want to do it the other way anyways [05:46] you want windows virtualized [05:46] this is going to be the first machine I got for me and I'm so excited [05:46] you can save 'snaptshots' of guest OS's [05:48] unless you use windows more like an appliance, and dont get online with it [05:50] been saving up since november; I got the cheapest intel quad, 4 gb mem, a new motherboard, an old nvidia pcie 256 video card, and a dvd-rw, and a 500 gb western digital caviar blue [05:50] and there is space for 4 more gb of ran too [05:51] and a FREE 22" old vga monitor cause someone got a flat one and he didnt want this one [05:52] nice [05:52] i got a dual core finally [05:53] got it for recovering some data [05:53] that and a laptop of similar specs [05:53] mine is a desktop [05:54] old case but I got a new power supply with red green yellow and blue lights [05:54] and the fan has blue lights [05:54] right... i got a decent desktop machine and a laptop for that job [05:55] why is the video slow? [05:55] will it be too slow to record a vcr to make it for a dvd and edit out the commercials? [05:56] what video? [05:56] depends on the capture card i guess [05:56] what capture rig did you get? [05:56] you said the video editing was brutally slow [05:57] i said it *would* be [05:57] in VM or Vbox [05:57] oh [05:57] rendering would be slower than necessary [05:57] but if ubuntu is the main os then its ok [05:57] ok? [05:58] i mean, its not magic [05:58] you can still break things ;) [05:58] i personally dont do media editing in general in virtual machines [05:58] im sure its do-able though [05:59] I will try to put it on as the main os and make windows inside [06:00] what graphics card did you go with? [06:00] O I C [06:00] nvidia [06:00] i got a dual head nvidia recently [06:00] at the charity shop [06:00] works pretty well [06:01] its a nvidia 256 mb pci-e with 2 ports so I can have use a old vga monitor for the 2nd one too - lots of those free [06:01] I think it is 6400 or 6800 or something like that [06:02] not a good idea to turn on the light to see, cause my mom is not asleep === saidinesh is now known as saidinesh5 [06:04] I really want to try to make a full length animated video with awesome music too, and make a zillion dollars cause that would be really amazing [06:06] hey, it could happen :) [06:06] on 500 gb drive if I keep 100 gb for the vm for windows, should I make the rest in one partition or split it for programs and data separate? [06:06] whatever you want [06:07] i just do buntu in one big partition [06:07] but, the seperate /home is usually considered more 'pro' [06:07] ok [06:08] I'm so excited :) [06:10] thanx so much! I am going to download that now, and as soon as exams are over I will get busy on it [06:12] cool [06:12] blue977: welcome to the channel :) [06:17] :) [06:22] I'm going to bed before I get my butt kicked; thanks again === astralja1a is now known as astraljava