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rabcis their a way i can reset the password or remove it when booting (for some reason wont accepy me normal pass screen goes black few text and few lines of white text flash for half sec then back to pass prompt) anyone thx00:07
GridCubemmm that happened to me once00:09
GridCubetry logging  in into a xfce session instead of a xubuntu session00:09
charlie-tcaalso, you can try rm -rf ~/.ICEauthority too and restart the system00:10
charlie-tcaWe can also remove some config files and try, but then you have to reset some stuff00:11
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draiochthx gridcube charlie-tca00:14
charlie-tcadid it work?00:14
draiochnot tried yet just saying thx ;)00:15
draiochone mo pls thx00:15
draiochis this connected to my trialing the latest xubuntu from the linux format dvd mag had nutin but hassle since its been a dual boot option, could log in for a few days to be normal xubuntu now this?00:17
draiochgridcube how do a log in as an xfce session00:18
charlie-tcano way to know for sure, but if you were able to use it, and have not put the dvd back in the drive, it shouldn't be.00:18
draiochk thx charlie-tca00:19
draiochwhich is my easiest option00:19
GridCubewhen you go to  put your user and password, draioch, in the  bottom o f the screen you can choose the  type of  session you want, there you choose xfce sessioin00:19
GridCubedraioch, my way will make you use your  system whit  nothing else, charlie's will fix the problem00:20
draiochso after xfce session login i type "rm -rf ~/.ICEauthority" in terminal00:20
GridCubeyes that  should do  it i guess00:21
draiochk thanks gridcube charlie-tca ill let us know what happens00:22
draiocho/00:22
draiochhi charlie-tca gridcube still havin probs with pass login tried login as xfce but still asks for pass and cant get past it also logged in recovery mode and typed "rm -rf #.ICEauthority (nothing happed when pressed return and when reboot everything is the same still cant get past pass prompt00:58
draiochrm -rf~.ICEauthority00:59
draiochim a using another pc and can reboot while on this if any use or ill try back laters if yous are busy00:59
charlie-tcathat' s because in recovery mode, you have to cd to your /home/draioch directory01:33
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Name141Is Xubuntu going to magically go through some big bad windows manager change like Ubuntu is doing?06:19
Unit193Name141: Xubuntu is going to stick with XFCE they will only change GDM to LightDM07:02
Name141Unit193: so there wont be some super suck GUI coming along on Xubuntu like Ubuntu ?07:11
Unit193Name141: If you are referring to Unity, then no, we will not be using Unity07:12
Name141Unit193: yes, that.07:12
Name141Sounds like Xubuntu boat is the one to get on then.07:12
Unit193I would think so ;)07:13
Name141Unit193: now if only I could find a good power supply to make the new machine run instead of doing RMA.. RMA.. but that's off topic07:16
Unit193Name141: I may have a spare in the basement (don't think it works) :P There is also an #xubuntu-offtopic07:17
Wizardgood morning08:04
elrosgood morning08:10
bawshello09:12
SockPantshi all12:01
SockPantshow can i move the application bar/dock bar (what is it called?) to the left side of the screen rather than the bottom?12:01
elrosyou mean the panel? try panel preference, orientation12:03
SockPantsno the other one12:04
SockPantsoh they're both panels12:04
SockPantsic12:04
elrosyes12:04
elrosthe default has top panel with regular stuff and bottom panel with big icons / autohide12:05
SockPantsyep, got it12:05
SockPantsnow, i've connected a second monitor12:05
SockPantsbut it basically mirrors the screen, using the biggest resolution of the two, and crops it to fit the top-left part on the smaller screen12:06
SockPantscan't i have two desktops?12:06
elrosyour questions are above my pay grade12:06
SockPantseheh i thought it was pretty basic12:06
elrostry something from settings > settings manager > display12:08
SockPantsyeah that's pretty much the problem, there's hardly anything there12:08
stephanmgis it possible to remember opened pdf articles with evince on specific workspaces?15:29
differentSmokegreetings, I have this eternal Ubuntu/Xubuntu question: I've always kept a windows, and the longer I keep Xubuntu installed, new "kernel" options for linux start to appear in the boot menu(excuse me if I'm not using the precise terms). The question is: does this mean that I'm keeping various kernels installed? does it mean that the booting software keeps the records for the old kernels? How...15:30
differentSmoke...can I fix/hide this? Thanks15:30
SysidifferentSmoke: old kernels are not deleted automatically, but you can delete them by yourself15:31
Sysithey're there "just for sure"15:31
differentSmokehow risky is doing this?(what is "just for sure"?)15:32
differentSmokeas a failsafe?15:32
Sysiif new kernel fails, basically no risk on removing them15:32
charlie-tcastephanmg: maybe using devilspie, but not by default15:33
stephanmgcharlie-tca: i see but it seems to remember xfce terminals by default15:35
charlie-tcaand it will even remember to open evince, I think. But that still is not going to be specific articles15:36
charlie-tcaIt really depends on how well behaved the app is as to whether or not it stays on its own workspace.15:37
charlie-tcaliferea never reopens where it was15:37
charlie-tcafirefox sometimes works that way, sometimes it doesn't15:37
differentSmokeSysi: should I look for them in synaptic?15:42
Sysifor example15:42
differentSmokeuhm, having trouble identifying them.15:44
Sysisearch for linux, version numbers go from smaller to bigger15:45
stephanmgcharlie-tca: haha i see, bad luck, i think i will just stick to re-arrange those evince instances by hand15:45
stephanmgbut nice hint that devilpie maybe i play a bit with that15:46
differentSmokewill do. thanks Sysi.15:47
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profus2good evening, would anybody be as kind helping me out with installation of printer driver22:48
profus2?22:48
profus2unpacked Samsungs Driver into download directory22:49
profus2and have home/Downloads/cdroot directory22:49
profus2subdirectory is Linux22:49
profus2only file autorun22:49
profus2which quits with error message "command not found"22:50
GridCuberun it?22:50
profus2tried it, see above22:50
GridCubefrom a terminal?22:50
profus2no22:51
GridCubethen try froma terminal :)22:51
profus2first not, then i opened terminal and type sudo autorun, after that autorun22:51
profus2same error messages22:51
profus2autorun contains: #! /bin/sh22:52
profus2BASE=`dirname "$0"`22:52
profus2exec sh "$BASE/Linux/install.sh"22:52
GridCube>alt-f2 >xfce4-terminal >run        then cd to the folder and type   ./autorun22:52
profus2i need root privliges22:53
profus2should i type sudo ./autorun ?22:53
GridCubeif you trust that autorun thing, then yes22:54
profus2cool, what does the "./" mean ?22:56
Sysirun from current folder22:56
GridCube. means "the folder im in"22:56
profus2thank you, installation proceeded as it should do22:59
GridCube:)22:59
profus2is there a standard procedure to unpack tar.gz files23:01
profus2for example: I downloaded UnifiedLinuxDriver_0.82.tar.gz and unpacked it in the same directory23:01
profus2is this a common way to do it23:02
profus2?23:02
cody-somervilletar -zxf file.tar.gz23:02
cody-somerville(z means run through gzip, x means decompress, and f means operate on file)23:03
GridCubei just uncompress them from thunar or the xarchiver23:03
Sysiv adds verbose23:03
profus2can extracted files be deleted after installation?23:04
elrosyes23:04
profus2thx23:04
cody-somervilleprofus2, usually a tarball contains a single directory with all the files inside of it which makes deleting what you extracted easy23:04
cody-somervilleprofus2, however, sometimes folks who create the tarball aren't as considerate23:04
cody-somervilleprofus2, and so it might extract a bunch of files into your current directory23:05
elrosrm file deletes a file, rm -r deletes the file/folder and all subfolders recursively, rm -rf forces the operation even on write-protected files without asking23:05
elrosalso, never ever use a command like rm -rf ~/23:05
cody-somervilleprofus2, thats why I always create a directory to work in and extract the files out to it23:05
knomeelros, ermmmm... :)23:05
elrosit deletes your home folder and all subfolders23:05
profus2wow, nice lecture23:05
knomeelros, never post something like that in the channel :P23:06
elrosI said "never ever use this command" :P23:06
knomewell yeah...23:06
elros"please don't shoot yourself in the neck because it hurts"23:06
cody-somervilleelros, just imagine if someone misreads what you said and then goes and executes it :P23:06
elroswell, it's not my responsibility23:07
cody-somervilleelros, you'd feel bad about it though, no?23:07
elrosdon't pour hot coffee on your lap23:07
GridCubeyes, i second knome and cody-somerville, elros never even write that line23:07
elrosnot exactly23:07
knome!guidelines23:08
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines23:08
knomeelros, maybe check those.23:08
elrosalright23:09
cody-somerville:-)23:09
cody-somervilleprofus2, What printer do you have? Usually you don't have to install a driver for a printer to work in Xubuntu.23:10
knomeactually, i don't think guidelines say anything about that exactly, but it's a common #*ubuntu* guideline to tell people not to say things like that, even if you say "do not"23:10
profus2I extracted a 2nd program for the printer and it sits in /Downloads/cdroot/Linux/smartpanels23:10
profus2there is an install.sh skript23:10
elrosknome: I kind of get the point23:11
knomeelros, okay, good. :)23:11
cody-somervilleprofus2, be careful about executing random scripts you download off the internet. :)23:11
elrosset the bar low enough23:11
GridCubeprofus2, do the same as before23:11
profus2i downloaded the files fom samsungs homepage23:11
profus2@GridCube: that's what I did and here is the outcome of it23:16
profus2u1@NB2:~/Downloads/cdroot/Linux/smartpanel$ sudo ./install.sh23:17
profus2[sudo] password for u1:23:17
profus2mv: Aufruf von stat für „help/*.xml“ nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden23:17
profus2INFO: Shutting down smartpanel:23:17
profus2INFO: smartpanel (ver.2.00.58) has been installed successfully in /opt/Samsung/SmartPanel23:17
profus2INFO: Starting smartpanel ...23:17
profus2u1@NB2:~/Downloads/cdroot/Linux/smartpanel$ No log handling enabled - turning on stderr logging23:17
profus2Cannot find module (IP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (IF-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (TCP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (UDP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (HOST-RESOURCES-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
GridCubeprofus2,23:17
GridCubestop23:17
profus2Cannot find module (SNMPv2-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (SNMPv2-SMI): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (NOTIFICATION-LOG-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (DISMAN-EVENT-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (DISMAN-SCHEDULE-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (UCD-SNMP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (UCD-DEMO-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (SNMP-TARGET-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (NET-SNMP-AGENT-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (IPV6-ICMP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (IPV6-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (IPV6-TCP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
profus2Cannot find module (IPV6-UDP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)23:17
SysiPLEASE PASTEBIN23:17
GridCubeyeah he's new23:17
knome!pastebin | profus223:18
ubottuprofus2: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:18
Sysicaps just for pointing out, no offence23:18
profus2oh, i am very sorry23:19
knomeprofus2, no problem. now you know :)23:19
GridCubeand i don't know profus2 :(23:21
profus2the software was supposed to provide a access panel for my new samsung multifunction device23:24
profus2what can I do to work it as a scanner23:24
knomeprofus2, your paste were probably cut since i quieted you in the middle. you can try pasting it to pastebin so we can see the complete paste23:24
profus2http://paste.ubuntu.com/630572/23:25
profus2is SANE installed by default on Xubuntu23:26
profus2if so, how can I run and configure it23:27
charlie-tca!info same23:28
ubottuPackage same does not exist in natty23:28
charlie-tca!info sane23:28
ubottusane (source: sane-frontends): scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-9 (natty), package size 108 kB, installed size 332 kB23:28
charlie-tca!info simplescan23:28
ubottuPackage simplescan does not exist in natty23:28
Sysi!info simple-scan23:29
ubottusimple-scan (source: simple-scan): Simple Scanning Utility. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32.0.1-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 94 kB, installed size 540 kB23:29
charlie-tcaprofus2: simple-scan is installed in Xubuntu by default23:29
profus2@charlie-tca: yes, but it does not find/identify any scanner23:30
charlie-tcaThen you can install sane, but it is not installed by default since we do install simple-scan23:31
profus2installed it, but it wont find a scanner :-(23:36
profus2good night everybody and thank you for your kind help23:47

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