[00:07] <rabc> is their a way i can reset the password or remove it when booting (for some reason wont accepy me normal pass screen goes black few text and few lines of white text flash for half sec then back to pass prompt) anyone thx
[00:09] <GridCube> mmm that happened to me once
[00:09] <GridCube> try logging  in into a xfce session instead of a xubuntu session
[00:10] <charlie-tca> also, you can try rm -rf ~/.ICEauthority too and restart the system
[00:11] <charlie-tca> We can also remove some config files and try, but then you have to reset some stuff
[00:14] <draioch> thx gridcube charlie-tca
[00:14] <charlie-tca> did it work?
[00:15] <draioch> not tried yet just saying thx ;)
[00:15] <draioch> one mo pls thx
[00:17] <draioch> is this connected to my trialing the latest xubuntu from the linux format dvd mag had nutin but hassle since its been a dual boot option, could log in for a few days to be normal xubuntu now this?
[00:18] <draioch> gridcube how do a log in as an xfce session
[00:18] <charlie-tca> no way to know for sure, but if you were able to use it, and have not put the dvd back in the drive, it shouldn't be.
[00:19] <draioch> k thx charlie-tca
[00:19] <draioch> which is my easiest option
[00:19] <GridCube> when you go to  put your user and password, draioch, in the  bottom o f the screen you can choose the  type of  session you want, there you choose xfce sessioin
[00:20] <GridCube> draioch, my way will make you use your  system whit  nothing else, charlie's will fix the problem
[00:20] <draioch> so after xfce session login i type "rm -rf ~/.ICEauthority" in terminal
[00:21] <GridCube> yes that  should do  it i guess
[00:22] <draioch> k thanks gridcube charlie-tca ill let us know what happens
[00:22] <draioch> o/
[00:58] <draioch> hi charlie-tca gridcube still havin probs with pass login tried login as xfce but still asks for pass and cant get past it also logged in recovery mode and typed "rm -rf #.ICEauthority (nothing happed when pressed return and when reboot everything is the same still cant get past pass prompt
[00:59] <draioch> rm -rf~.ICEauthority
[00:59] <draioch> im a using another pc and can reboot while on this if any use or ill try back laters if yous are busy
[01:33] <charlie-tca> that' s because in recovery mode, you have to cd to your /home/draioch directory
[06:19] <Name141> Is Xubuntu going to magically go through some big bad windows manager change like Ubuntu is doing?
[07:02] <Unit193> Name141: Xubuntu is going to stick with XFCE they will only change GDM to LightDM
[07:11] <Name141> Unit193: so there wont be some super suck GUI coming along on Xubuntu like Ubuntu ?
[07:12] <Unit193> Name141: If you are referring to Unity, then no, we will not be using Unity
[07:12] <Name141> Unit193: yes, that.
[07:12] <Name141> Sounds like Xubuntu boat is the one to get on then.
[07:13] <Unit193> I would think so ;)
[07:16] <Name141> Unit193: now if only I could find a good power supply to make the new machine run instead of doing RMA.. RMA.. but that's off topic
[07:17] <Unit193> Name141: I may have a spare in the basement (don't think it works) :P There is also an #xubuntu-offtopic
[08:04] <Wizard> good morning
[08:10] <elros> good morning
[09:12] <baws> hello
[12:01] <SockPants> hi all
[12:01] <SockPants> how can i move the application bar/dock bar (what is it called?) to the left side of the screen rather than the bottom?
[12:03] <elros> you mean the panel? try panel preference, orientation
[12:04] <SockPants> no the other one
[12:04] <SockPants> oh they're both panels
[12:04] <SockPants> ic
[12:04] <elros> yes
[12:05] <elros> the default has top panel with regular stuff and bottom panel with big icons / autohide
[12:05] <SockPants> yep, got it
[12:05] <SockPants> now, i've connected a second monitor
[12:06] <SockPants> but it basically mirrors the screen, using the biggest resolution of the two, and crops it to fit the top-left part on the smaller screen
[12:06] <SockPants> can't i have two desktops?
[12:06] <elros> your questions are above my pay grade
[12:06] <SockPants> eheh i thought it was pretty basic
[12:08] <elros> try something from settings > settings manager > display
[12:08] <SockPants> yeah that's pretty much the problem, there's hardly anything there
[15:29] <stephanmg> is it possible to remember opened pdf articles with evince on specific workspaces?
[15:30] <differentSmoke> greetings, I have this eternal Ubuntu/Xubuntu question: I've always kept a windows, and the longer I keep Xubuntu installed, new "kernel" options for linux start to appear in the boot menu(excuse me if I'm not using the precise terms). The question is: does this mean that I'm keeping various kernels installed? does it mean that the booting software keeps the records for the old kernels? How...
[15:30] <differentSmoke> ...can I fix/hide this? Thanks
[15:31] <Sysi> differentSmoke: old kernels are not deleted automatically, but you can delete them by yourself
[15:31] <Sysi> they're there "just for sure"
[15:32] <differentSmoke> how risky is doing this?(what is "just for sure"?)
[15:32] <differentSmoke> as a failsafe?
[15:32] <Sysi> if new kernel fails, basically no risk on removing them
[15:33] <charlie-tca> stephanmg: maybe using devilspie, but not by default
[15:35] <stephanmg> charlie-tca: i see but it seems to remember xfce terminals by default
[15:36] <charlie-tca> and it will even remember to open evince, I think. But that still is not going to be specific articles
[15:37] <charlie-tca> It really depends on how well behaved the app is as to whether or not it stays on its own workspace.
[15:37] <charlie-tca> liferea never reopens where it was
[15:37] <charlie-tca> firefox sometimes works that way, sometimes it doesn't
[15:42] <differentSmoke> Sysi: should I look for them in synaptic?
[15:42] <Sysi> for example
[15:44] <differentSmoke> uhm, having trouble identifying them.
[15:45] <Sysi> search for linux, version numbers go from smaller to bigger
[15:45] <stephanmg> charlie-tca: haha i see, bad luck, i think i will just stick to re-arrange those evince instances by hand
[15:46] <stephanmg> but nice hint that devilpie maybe i play a bit with that
[15:47] <differentSmoke> will do. thanks Sysi.
[22:48] <profus2> good evening, would anybody be as kind helping me out with installation of printer driver
[22:48] <profus2> ?
[22:49] <profus2> unpacked Samsungs Driver into download directory
[22:49] <profus2> and have home/Downloads/cdroot directory
[22:49] <profus2> subdirectory is Linux
[22:49] <profus2> only file autorun
[22:50] <profus2> which quits with error message "command not found"
[22:50] <GridCube> run it?
[22:50] <profus2> tried it, see above
[22:50] <GridCube> from a terminal?
[22:51] <profus2> no
[22:51] <GridCube> then try froma terminal :)
[22:51] <profus2> first not, then i opened terminal and type sudo autorun, after that autorun
[22:51] <profus2> same error messages
[22:52] <profus2> autorun contains: #! /bin/sh
[22:52] <profus2> BASE=`dirname "$0"`
[22:52] <profus2> exec sh "$BASE/Linux/install.sh"
[22:52] <GridCube> >alt-f2 >xfce4-terminal >run        then cd to the folder and type   ./autorun
[22:53] <profus2> i need root privliges
[22:53] <profus2> should i type sudo ./autorun ?
[22:54] <GridCube> if you trust that autorun thing, then yes
[22:56] <profus2> cool, what does the "./" mean ?
[22:56] <Sysi> run from current folder
[22:56] <GridCube> . means "the folder im in"
[22:59] <profus2> thank you, installation proceeded as it should do
[22:59] <GridCube> :)
[23:01] <profus2> is there a standard procedure to unpack tar.gz files
[23:01] <profus2> for example: I downloaded UnifiedLinuxDriver_0.82.tar.gz and unpacked it in the same directory
[23:02] <profus2> is this a common way to do it
[23:02] <profus2> ?
[23:02] <cody-somerville> tar -zxf file.tar.gz
[23:03] <cody-somerville> (z means run through gzip, x means decompress, and f means operate on file)
[23:03] <GridCube> i just uncompress them from thunar or the xarchiver
[23:03] <Sysi> v adds verbose
[23:04] <profus2> can extracted files be deleted after installation?
[23:04] <elros> yes
[23:04] <profus2> thx
[23:04] <cody-somerville> profus2, usually a tarball contains a single directory with all the files inside of it which makes deleting what you extracted easy
[23:04] <cody-somerville> profus2, however, sometimes folks who create the tarball aren't as considerate
[23:05] <cody-somerville> profus2, and so it might extract a bunch of files into your current directory
[23:05] <elros> rm file deletes a file, rm -r deletes the file/folder and all subfolders recursively, rm -rf forces the operation even on write-protected files without asking
[23:05] <elros> also, never ever use a command like rm -rf ~/
[23:05] <cody-somerville> profus2, thats why I always create a directory to work in and extract the files out to it
[23:05] <knome> elros, ermmmm... :)
[23:05] <elros> it deletes your home folder and all subfolders
[23:05] <profus2> wow, nice lecture
[23:06] <knome> elros, never post something like that in the channel :P
[23:06] <elros> I said "never ever use this command" :P
[23:06] <knome> well yeah...
[23:06] <elros> "please don't shoot yourself in the neck because it hurts"
[23:06] <cody-somerville> elros, just imagine if someone misreads what you said and then goes and executes it :P
[23:07] <elros> well, it's not my responsibility
[23:07] <cody-somerville> elros, you'd feel bad about it though, no?
[23:07] <elros> don't pour hot coffee on your lap
[23:07] <GridCube> yes, i second knome and cody-somerville, elros never even write that line
[23:07] <elros> not exactly
[23:08] <knome> !guidelines
[23:08] <knome> elros, maybe check those.
[23:09] <elros> alright
[23:09] <cody-somerville> :-)
[23:10] <cody-somerville> profus2, What printer do you have? Usually you don't have to install a driver for a printer to work in Xubuntu.
[23:10] <knome> actually, i don't think guidelines say anything about that exactly, but it's a common #*ubuntu* guideline to tell people not to say things like that, even if you say "do not"
[23:10] <profus2> I extracted a 2nd program for the printer and it sits in /Downloads/cdroot/Linux/smartpanels
[23:10] <profus2> there is an install.sh skript
[23:11] <elros> knome: I kind of get the point
[23:11] <knome> elros, okay, good. :)
[23:11] <cody-somerville> profus2, be careful about executing random scripts you download off the internet. :)
[23:11] <elros> set the bar low enough
[23:11] <GridCube> profus2, do the same as before
[23:11] <profus2> i downloaded the files fom samsungs homepage
[23:16] <profus2> @GridCube: that's what I did and here is the outcome of it
[23:17] <profus2> u1@NB2:~/Downloads/cdroot/Linux/smartpanel$ sudo ./install.sh
[23:17] <profus2> [sudo] password for u1:
[23:17] <profus2> mv: Aufruf von stat für „help/*.xml“ nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[23:17] <profus2> INFO: Shutting down smartpanel:
[23:17] <profus2> INFO: smartpanel (ver.2.00.58) has been installed successfully in /opt/Samsung/SmartPanel
[23:17] <profus2> INFO: Starting smartpanel ...
[23:17] <profus2> u1@NB2:~/Downloads/cdroot/Linux/smartpanel$ No log handling enabled - turning on stderr logging
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (IP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (IF-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (TCP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (UDP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (HOST-RESOURCES-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <GridCube> profus2,
[23:17] <GridCube> stop
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (SNMPv2-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (SNMPv2-SMI): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (NOTIFICATION-LOG-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (DISMAN-EVENT-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (DISMAN-SCHEDULE-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (UCD-SNMP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (UCD-DEMO-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (SNMP-TARGET-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (NET-SNMP-AGENT-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (IPV6-ICMP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (IPV6-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (IPV6-TCP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <profus2> Cannot find module (IPV6-UDP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[23:17] <Sysi> PLEASE PASTEBIN
[23:17] <GridCube> yeah he's new
[23:18] <knome> !pastebin | profus2
[23:18] <Sysi> caps just for pointing out, no offence
[23:19] <profus2> oh, i am very sorry
[23:19] <knome> profus2, no problem. now you know :)
[23:21] <GridCube> and i don't know profus2 :(
[23:24] <profus2> the software was supposed to provide a access panel for my new samsung multifunction device
[23:24] <profus2> what can I do to work it as a scanner
[23:24] <knome> profus2, your paste were probably cut since i quieted you in the middle. you can try pasting it to pastebin so we can see the complete paste
[23:25] <profus2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/630572/
[23:26] <profus2> is SANE installed by default on Xubuntu
[23:27] <profus2> if so, how can I run and configure it
[23:28] <charlie-tca> !info same
[23:28] <charlie-tca> !info sane
[23:28] <charlie-tca> !info simplescan
[23:29] <Sysi> !info simple-scan
[23:29] <charlie-tca> profus2: simple-scan is installed in Xubuntu by default
[23:30] <profus2> @charlie-tca: yes, but it does not find/identify any scanner
[23:31] <charlie-tca> Then you can install sane, but it is not installed by default since we do install simple-scan
[23:36] <profus2> installed it, but it wont find a scanner :-(
[23:47] <profus2> good night everybody and thank you for your kind help