[00:00] <well> olá pessoal
[00:01] <well> esse IRC é para brasileiros
[00:03] <vadrao> Hi all, I installed ubuntu to try it out and now want to remove it completely. When I try and uninstall ubuntu-desktop from Kpackagekit it does not remove the genome applications. can any one let me know how to remove gnome completely
[00:04] <DavidTalbot> u wanna remove gnome or the complete linux installation?
[00:04] <genii-around> !purekde
[00:04] <vadrao> just gnome.. I want to keep my kubuntu installation'
[00:04] <Linkmaster> ^Right there, best thing in the world
[00:05]  * genii-around slides Linkmaster a coffee
[00:05] <Linkmaster> :D
[00:05] <well> alguêm fal aportugus ???
[00:06] <well> eu precido de uma ajuda¹
[00:06] <well> !
[00:06] <well> i need help
[00:07] <ArchangelSe7en> well with what exactly ?
[00:07] <vadrao> ubottu: There is no Natty guide in that link.. and using apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop does not solve my problem..
[00:08] <Linkmaster> vadrao: follow that guide, it covers all *buntu stuff
[00:09] <well> olá pessoal preciso d euma ajuda
[00:09] <maco> !br | well
[00:11] <iconmefisto> vadrao: for natty: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[00:11] <genii-around> vadrao: Just follow the Hardy instructions for kde4 :)
[00:12] <genii-around> Or iconmefisto's suggestion...
[00:14] <vadrao> iconmefisto: Thanks a lot. That is what I was looking for..
[01:08] <mick-mick> hola amigos
[01:09] <mick-mick> hi Epyon
[01:10] <mick-mick> who had ever used LTSP?
[01:11] <mick-mick> Linux Terminal Server
[01:18] <TheBuntu> Anyone have any idea why rekonq and arora display Facebook better then firefox ?
[01:21] <Linkmaster> TheBuntu: because FF is becoming quite a bloated and heavy web browser. Rekonq is fast and light, I don't use arora though I've heard about it, and since its light it loads lighter pages quickly. FF chugs along on any page, and here on Linux at least, I've noticed that Rekonq is optimium for everything except heavy flash
[01:23] <TheBuntu> Linkmaster: ok that makes sence.... i dont care for arora... but is there anything light that is better then rekonq
[01:47] <dineshnn> any body have idea about the pdf editor
[01:47] <dineshnn> i need to edit a pdf file
[01:52] <dineshnn> advise to reset the ubuntu as original settings
[02:55] <ptjwasup> check check
[03:42] <OerHeks> hi, my GPU fan is running fullspeed, and Nvidia settings show me it is speed 0 > http://picpaste.com/pics/fan-sKbpFbMa.1308710443.png
[03:42] <OerHeks> how do i enable the auto speed function ?
[05:15] <RazupX> hi , there is itunes for kubuntu ?
[05:19] <Phosphenes> Hi, is there any way I can install kde3 on 11.04?
[05:20] <Linkmaster> Phosphenes: I don't think so..I believe KDE3 died out since 9.10. I believe
[05:21] <Phosphenes> Ok, thanks
[05:24] <Linkmaster> Phosphenes: do try and give KDE4 a try though. I personally love it, and its very well supported. The more stable version is 4.5 which is on Lucid I believe, if not its 4.4 on Lucid. 4.6 is the latest stable for Natty, though with project-neon you can get 4.7
[05:27] <Phosphenes> I do have KDE4 installed, but its quite slow on my netbook even with all the graphical effects disabled so I wanted to try downgrading it
[05:30] <Linkmaster> Phosphenes: you using Natty? because there are known power issues with the kernel at the moment. I noticed a slight slowdown as well on my 992mb card, especially with blur
[05:30] <Phosphenes> I am using Natty right now, but I originally had Maverick when I first installed. I was hoping that upgrading it would be faster but it's about the same
[05:31] <Phosphenes> I'm using the lubuntu desktop right now because it's a lot faster, but it's a bit simpler than I would like.
[05:32] <Linkmaster> Personally, Maverick is faster on my computer. My experience, though I've tweaked Natty to work beautifully. It especially helps if you disable strigi and nepomuk
[05:34] <Phosphenes> How do I disable them? Do I just sudo apt-get remove them?
[05:34] <Linkmaster> I believe that will destroy your desktop :P
[05:34] <Phosphenes> oh, that wouldn't be good
[05:34] <Linkmaster> Hmm, I used to remember, hold on...
[05:34] <Phosphenes> What are they for?
[05:35] <Linkmaster> file indexing
[05:35] <Phosphenes> Wouldn't I need them then?
[05:36] <Linkmaster> It depends on things; I've personally never disabled them, though a lot of people say when they disable them, they get under 200 megs of RAM usage upon reboot. I wouldn't know though
[05:37] <Phosphenes> I see, well I think I can probably survive on this lubuntu desktop for now. I plan on getting a newer netbook sometime this year anyway.
[05:37] <Linkmaster> Hmm, that sounds good. Perhaps try lucid though, if I'm correct it uses a LOT less power than Maverick and Natty
[05:38] <Phosphenes> Ok, thanks for the help
[05:39] <Linkmaster> anytime
[05:51] <tml1218> hello all, i have done my searching and i cant find a surefire way to backup my drive into an iso image and also restore it.. could someone help?
[05:54] <valorie> you can use DD to make a mirror
[05:54] <valorie> but an ISO?
[05:56] <valorie> clonezilla might do what you want
[05:56] <valorie> most people just use rsync, imo
[06:48] <wrek-gar> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25676.html <- need help with step 3 (can't find directory hotplug)
[06:51] <wrek-gar> anyone here?
[06:54] <valorie> looking
[06:55] <valorie> what happened when you did cd /etc/hotplug/usb
[06:55] <valorie> oh, can't find dir
[06:58] <tkleader> Hey there. I just installed a fresh copy of Kubuntu 11.04
[06:59] <tkleader> And that wasn't supposed to send yet... It's not showing any wireless networks for some reason, and rfkill list doesn't show wlan0
[06:59] <tkleader> I had a similar problem on Opensuse 11.4 but it was on a different laptop and rfkill unblock wifi fixed it
[07:00] <tkleader> Actually it does show Wifi, it just doesn't show any networks
[07:07] <tkleader> How can I find out what wireless card is inside my laptop?
[07:09] <susundberg> tinlys: try lspci
[07:09] <susundberg> tkleader that was not yo tinlys, sorry
[07:10] <LINKSWORD2> lol! I log in and it asks me to identify, and then it says I'm already logged in....
[07:10] <tinlys> lspc?
[07:11] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[07:12] <tinlys> |o| ofcours
[07:14] <LINKSWORD2> I've got a weird thing going on. I think I need a display driver, but I'm not certain about it...
[07:14] <LINKSWORD2> When I start up my system and Kubuntu begins to start up, I get a message on a black screen that says; "Cannot Display This Video Mode"
[07:14] <LINKSWORD2> After a couple moments, the system re-adjusts, presumably to a different Video Mode and I'm able to log in.
[07:15] <LINKSWORD2> DarkwingDuck: I hope you're awake. lol
[07:16] <LINKSWORD2> Linkmaster: Hello. Did you get your question about Helvetica or any of its variants answered since last time?
[07:18] <valorie> linkmaster said in another channel he was going to bed a few mins ago
[07:19] <LINKSWORD2> I don't think users should lurk around inactively....
[07:19] <LINKSWORD2> If they're away, the should LOG OFF!!!!
[07:19] <valorie> lol
[07:19] <valorie> he did!
[07:19] <LINKSWORD2> Know what I mean?
[07:19] <valorie> I think
[07:19] <LINKSWORD2> .... He's still in the user list.
[07:19] <valorie> otoh, I'm here 24/7
[07:20] <valorie> on a bouncer
[07:20] <valorie> but I set myself away, usually
[07:20] <valorie> wanna fight about it?
[07:20] <valorie> :-)
[07:20] <LINKSWORD2> I'd win. :P
[07:21] <LINKSWORD2> Anyway... Forget about that. Perhaps you could help with the issue in my original post? (Display driver issue, possibly.)
[07:24] <valorie> well, you can try jockey-kde if you haven't already
[07:24] <valorie> I don't know much about that stuff
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> ... jockey-kde?
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> Uh.... What?
[07:25] <valorie> alt f2
[07:25] <valorie> and then
[07:25] <valorie> jockey-kde
[07:27] <LINKSWORD2> "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[07:28] <valorie> hmmm
[07:28] <LINKSWORD2> I think it needs a proprietary driver, however....
[07:28] <valorie> I hope someone else wanders in who knows more than me then
[07:28] <valorie> it should offer the correct one
[07:30] <tinlys> yours start grub is ok?
[07:30] <LINKSWORD2> This is the only OS on my system. No need to install GRUB.
[07:31] <valorie> grub is not just for OSs
[07:31] <tinlys> ja :-)
[07:31] <valorie> also for kernels
[07:31] <LINKSWORD2> Er......
[07:31] <valorie> you need grub2
[07:32] <valorie> otherwise, how do you change to safe mode?
[07:32] <valorie> etc.
[07:32] <valorie> !grub2
[07:33] <valorie> it's the boot manager for everything you might need to boot into
[07:33] <tkleader> Hey there. I was hoping that I could get some help with my laptops wireless in Kubuntu..?
[07:33] <valorie> !wireless
[07:33] <valorie> two for two!
[07:38] <tkleader> Thanks Valorie. I've made some headway, but I'm still new-ish to Linux. It's saying something about NDISwrapper and I have no idea what it is
[07:39] <valorie> bleah
[07:40] <tkleader> Lol thats not response worries me
[07:40] <valorie> that is some sort of wrapper around the blob
[07:40] <valorie> gosh
[07:40] <tkleader> Gah
[07:40] <valorie> dunno
[07:40] <tkleader> Great that sounds confusing :S
[07:41] <tkleader> I was just running Linux Mint and the wireless worked, but I like KDE better.
[07:46] <tkleader> Fixed it!
[07:46] <tkleader> Thanks for getting me a headstart Valorie :D
[07:52] <valorie> super!
[07:55] <tkleader_> Sooper Dooper
[08:10] <flashdeluxe> hi! i got the problem that if i start a program, e.g. firefox it is startet in the background and i have to right-klick on the minimized window shown on the taskbar to check the box "always in foreground". Does anybody know this issue and can tell me how to get rid of it? I am using kde and  the problem occured after an dist-upgrade.
[08:14] <LINKSWORD2> flashdeluxe: Can you explain more?
[08:14] <LINKSWORD2> Wait a second....
[08:14] <flashdeluxe> LINKSWORD2 What do you want to know :)
[08:14] <LINKSWORD2> If you start a program, i.e. Firefox, it always starts in the background?
[08:15] <flashdeluxe> yes
[08:16] <LINKSWORD2> Ok, first of all, do you have any applets running in the background?
[08:16] <LINKSWORD2> Something like a game, etc.
[08:16] <flashdeluxe> no nothing, it happens after a reboot when nothing is started, too
[08:17] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm....
[08:17] <LINKSWORD2> So at this point, you have your system on its default config, or as close to it as possible?
[08:18] <LINKSWORD2> valorie, do you know the command for creating a system event log?
[08:19] <flashdeluxe> LINKSWORLD2: No, i reinstalled kde but i guess that my config wasn`t replaced
[08:20] <LINKSWORD2> How bizarre.
[08:21] <LINKSWORD2> Which OS did you install, and what did you upgrade to?
[08:22] <LINKSWORD2> No way.... Kori?
[08:22] <flashdeluxe> yeah :/ how can i completely reinstall kde? with new configs? I upgraded from maverick to natty
[08:23] <koribori> yeah?
[08:23] <LINKSWORD2> I think you might know me, koribori...
[08:23] <LINKSWORD2> Maverick is 10.10, correct?
[08:23] <LINKSWORD2> !maverick
[08:24] <LINKSWORD2> OK, yeah.
[08:24] <LINKSWORD2> flashdeluxe: Do you have anything on your harddrive that you NEED to save?
[08:25] <koribori> noo.... i dont know you >.<
[08:25] <flashdeluxe> LINKSWORD2 almost everything? :D
[08:25] <LINKSWORD2> .... Ouch. lol
[08:26] <flashdeluxe> LINKSWORD2 why did you ask? what do you suggest?
[08:26] <LINKSWORD2> I'm known for using USB external harddrives, and a remote backup server.
[08:27] <LINKSWORD2> !clonezilla
[08:27] <LINKSWORD2> D'oh@
[08:28] <LINKSWORD2> flashdeluxe: I would back up your important files often.
[08:28] <valorie> to get new configs, just rename/move your .kde file
[08:28] <valorie> I believe a sys event log is always kept
[08:29] <LINKSWORD2> You have two possibilities.... Your Maverick OS didn't install 100% correctly, or in upgrading to Natty, something goofed.
[08:29] <valorie> I don't think you have to create it
[08:29] <flashdeluxe> ok so could i purge kde, remove .kde and install kde?
[08:30] <LINKSWORD2> You could.
[08:31] <LINKSWORD2> If you have your documents, etc. saved on a separate harddrive, that can save you a LOT of headache.
[08:31] <flashdeluxe> an which package/s do i have to purge?
[08:32] <LINKSWORD2> I don't keep track of individual packages, really.
[08:32] <flashdeluxe> LINKSWORD2: The only thing which could happen is that the gui doesn`t start anymore, right?
[08:33] <LINKSWORD2> If I can't fix a problem and it looks drastic, I unplug my backup harddrive and wipe the main out with a complete re-install.
[08:34] <LINKSWORD2> Honestly, I'm a guy that's been using Windows since the Dark Ages, and I put Linux on an old machine to experiment with....
[08:34] <wildgoose> flashdeluxe, Maybe try another WM first so you can keep one working.
[08:34] <valorie> you don't need to purge KDE!
[08:34] <valorie> just move the .kde file
[08:34] <LINKSWORD2> Yeah, I didn't see that part. :/
[08:35]  * LINKSWORD2 bashful blush
[08:35] <valorie> it won't do any harm, but that's a lot of removing replacing for nothing
[08:35] <flashdeluxe> valorie: ok an if i move it and restart, will a new one be created?
[08:35] <valorie> yes
[08:35] <flashdeluxe> nice
[08:35] <valorie> you'll have to re-do your configs
[08:35] <valorie> but you can always move back parts from the old file
[08:36] <valorie> when it screws up, you know you don't want it
[08:36] <LINKSWORD2> I've decided that I love linux-based tool software. (GParted being a PRIME example.)
[08:36] <valorie> we have Kparted, I think
[08:36] <valorie> which will be the same but prettier
[08:36] <valorie> probably
[08:37] <LINKSWORD2> We still have GParted...
[08:38] <valorie> sure
[08:38] <valorie> oh, we have partitionmanager
[08:38] <LINKSWORD2> And after a successful clone job, I like Clonezilla quite well, also.
[08:39] <LINKSWORD2> flashdeluxe: Forget about me. It's 3 AM and I'm not sure if I know what I'm saying....
[08:42] <LINKSWORD2> And in regards to that fact... I need to get some sleep....
[09:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> There is a settings/config file for flash in home, correct? What is this file called so that I can delete it? I keep having problems arrise with flash every now and again and the easiest fix seems to be deleting this file. (uninstalling and reinstalling flash doesn't help)
[09:12] <FlashDeluxe> valorie : Worked for me =)
[09:15] <Spaz_Dynamic> unrelated to previous question: Is there a way I can install the 32bit python 2.6 package on my 64bit kubuntu? I have some scripts or whathaveyou that don't run right with 64bit py2.6.
[09:16] <valorie> \o/
[09:17] <valorie> flash in ff?
[09:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> firefox, chromium, and konqueror
[09:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> it stops functioning in all of them
[09:17] <valorie> try installing the add-on flash-aid
[09:17] <valorie> the updates keep breaking stuff indeed
[09:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> and if ir recall correctly, chromium has flash built in...
[09:18] <Spaz_Dynamic> if I*
[09:18] <FlashDeluxe> valorie: thanks =)
[09:18] <FlashDeluxe> i have one more issue: If i configure my monitors in the system settings and save it as default, it doesn`t take effect after reboot :(
[09:18] <valorie> but flash-aid seems to keep them straight
[09:18] <valorie> hmmm
[09:18] <valorie> !monitor
[09:18] <valorie> was hoping
[09:18] <Spaz_Dynamic> valorie: Yeah, there was an update, and the last time or two it broke it, so this time I decided to hold off on updating it... it stopped working a few days later (today) anyway
[09:19] <wildgoose> FlashDeluxe, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261285
[09:24] <Spaz_Dynamic> switched to gnash... lets see if it works well. So far websites aren't giving me an error saying I don't have flash installed so that's good at least.
[09:29] <FlashDeluxe> wildgoose: thx
[09:29] <wildgoose> FlashDeluxe, Hope it works for you.
[09:32] <FlashDeluxe> wildgoose: it doesn`t face the problem itsef, but its a nice workaround :)
[09:37] <Visago> hello?
[09:38] <tinlys> eloo!
[09:38] <Spaz_Dynamic> sadly, gnash wasn't working either. =\
[09:42] <valorie> !flash
[09:42] <valorie> but really, flash-aid will help
[09:44] <Spaz_Dynamic> will flash-aid make flash work for other programs?
[09:44] <valorie> it should, yes
[09:44] <susundberg> it might help .. i tried and mine fullscreen flash is not working still
[09:44] <valorie> they all use the same plugin
[09:45] <Spaz_Dynamic> even though it;s firefox plug in, it would make chromium and konqueror work?
[09:49] <valorie> should, yes
[09:50] <valorie> flash was working for me in chromium
[09:50] <valorie> don't use it much thought
[10:00] <olskolirc> how do I switch from panel to cairo-dock in kubuntu natty please?
[10:03] <valorie> what's cairo-dock?
[10:03] <valorie> I've heard of it, but don't know what it is
[10:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> valorie: Ah, ok, I get it now. Even though flash-aid is a plug-in for firefox, it affects your whole system, changing files as needed to make it work. Thank you.
[10:03] <valorie> cool
[10:03] <valorie> glad that worked for you
[10:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> Me too. ;)
[10:03] <valorie> olskolirc: you don't need to add a panel
[10:03] <valorie> it's just another widget
[10:04] <valorie> cairo-dock sounds gnomish, but you can use gnome stuff in Kubuntu if you prefer it
[10:05] <olskolirc> do we have our own cairo dock valorie?
[10:05] <valorie> !cairo-dock
[10:05] <valorie> [02:05] <valorie> info cairo-dock
[10:05] <valorie> [10:06] <valorie> so install the way you prefer, apt-get or kpk, muon, etc.
[10:06] <valorie> right-click on the panel and remove this panel
[10:06] <valorie> viola!
[10:12] <olskolirc> kpk muon what is that valorie?
[10:12] <olskolirc> how do I start cairo dock?
[10:14] <valorie> oops, kpackagekit, or muon, synaptic
[10:14] <valorie> any of the guis
[10:14] <valorie> you might try alt f2, cairo-dock
[10:35] <kil> Hello evry body..
[10:35] <kil> can you hel me?
[10:35] <kil> help*
[10:36] <tinlys> what is problem?
[10:36] <kil> hellow???
[10:37] <valorie> !ask | kil
[10:37] <kil> ok. me need programm, for recording discs?
[10:37] <kil> advice*
[10:38] <kil> alternativ ISO
[10:38] <valorie> like: burning cds/dvds?
[10:38] <kil> all
[10:38] <valorie> k3b is awesome for that
[10:38] <valorie> .iso too
[10:39] <valorie> you can use ktorrent to get the iso
[10:39] <valorie> too
[10:39] <kil> iso have on linux?
[10:39] <valorie> yes
[10:39] <kil> cool=)
[10:39] <kil> i don't know..
[10:40] <valorie> sudo apt-get install k3b
[10:40] <valorie> will do it
[10:40] <kil> and k3d иуееук,
[10:40] <kil> and k3d better?
[10:41] <valorie> it is excellent, yes
[10:41] <valorie> !ru
[10:41] <valorie> if you would rather
[10:41] <valorie> :-)
[10:41] <kil> =))ok.
[10:42] <kil> T Y
[10:48] <kil> sorry. Can be another issue?
[10:48] <cousin_mario> hello
[10:49] <kil> hi=)
[10:49] <cousin_mario> kde is crashing badly at login and I can't do a thing
[10:49] <cousin_mario> something (kwin I believe) crashes and decorations disappear
[10:49] <kil> but "neroLinux" is better k3d?
[10:49] <cousin_mario> kil: I don't like it
[10:50] <kil> why?
[10:51] <cousin_mario> it doesn't offer much more than k3b and I recall it being temperamental
[10:52] <cousin_mario> dunno if it makes up with video dvd authoring or something (assuming the linux version supports it)
[10:53] <kil> and TkDVD?
[10:53] <cousin_mario> not sure, never used
[10:53] <cousin_mario> what is it you need to do with it?
[10:53] <valorie> k3b is primo
[10:54] <valorie> he wants to burn an iso
[10:54] <valorie> it is the best
[10:54] <cousin_mario> he can use the command line for that:P
[10:54] <valorie> sure.....
[10:54] <valorie> well, I'm going to bed
[10:56] <kil> ie k3d better thann all?=)
[11:01] <cousin_mario> at the very least it's good for most stuff
[11:02] <cousin_mario> what would be the main use?
[11:02] <cousin_mario> http://i.imgur.com/OiFEs.jpg <- this is what I see right after login
[11:13] <mudassar> hello any body there ?
[11:13] <benonsoftware> Hi there
[11:13] <mudassar> can you help me in a problem
[11:13] <benonsoftware> What problem?
[11:14] <benonsoftware> You still there?
[11:14] <mudassar> I have this linux Linux neolith1 2.6.18-238.12.1.el5 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux, I want to call a function sched_getcpu, to get the core id where my program is running ...
[11:15] <mudassar> how can I link my program with glibc ?
[11:15] <mudassar> spent my yesterday on it, but could not achieve this :(
[11:15] <susundberg> Hi
[11:15] <susundberg> You get undefined symbol errors from linker?
[11:16] <mudassar> yes
[11:16] <benonsoftware> Have you seen http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-get-local-gcc-to-link-with-local-glibc-404087/for no2?
[11:16] <benonsoftware> and http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel/1121 for question no1?
[11:17] <susundberg> mudassar: weird, i got mine test program go compile fine without any libraries etc
[11:18] <mudassar> I don't know how to link actually let me see the links
[11:18] <benonsoftware> http://stackoverflow.com/q/491520/538613 Seen this too?
[11:18] <susundberg> mudassar: that is with "gcc -o silly silly.c"
[11:18] <mudassar> for your case, may be LD paths are already set
[11:18] <susundberg> mudassar: you could also paste the original error message in pastebin
[11:18] <mudassar> and secondly I am using icc
[11:18] <susundberg> well they are default yes
[11:18] <mudassar> ok
[11:18] <benonsoftware> Ok
[11:19] <susundberg> I am not sure if icc is compatible with gnu libc
[11:19] <mudassar> actually the path export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/glibc2/lib does not exist in my case, can you tell me where this library could be existing ?
[11:20] <susundberg> mudassar: if you know it is then it should work i guess
[11:20] <susundberg> mudassar: my library path seems to default to: LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.5.2/:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.5.2/../../../:/lib/:/usr/lib/:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[11:20] <mudassar> in my linux where could this glibc library file will be located ?
[11:21] <benonsoftware> What OS are you using again sorry? :)
[11:21] <mudassar> can you tell me the exact name of this library ?
[11:21] <mudassar> let me tell you again
[11:21] <susundberg> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libg.a
[11:21] <mudassar>  Linux neolith1 2.6.18-238.12.1.el5 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:21] <susundberg> dont know if thats the one though ..
[11:22] <mudassar> in my case this file is here .... /usr/lib/libg.a
[11:22] <mudassar> hmmm ok
[11:23] <mudassar> can I give -L two times like this -L/home/x_mudma/experiments/libs/gnugsl/lib -L/usr/lib
[11:23] <mudassar> ?
[11:24] <susundberg> Thats up to your compiler/linker, nothing to do with GNU/linux but with your intel compiler
[11:25] <susundberg> but with gcc, yes
[11:25] <mudassar> now it gives me incompatibility problems
[11:25] <mudassar> where is paste bin ?
[11:25] <susundberg> pastebin.com
[11:26] <susundberg> it might be that your compiler is not compatible with gcc-libraries ..
[11:26] <mudassar> http://pastebin.com/FTa1QKge
[11:27] <mudassar> but it works with other libraries like when I use math functions and other gnu libraries like
[11:27] <mudassar> I am using GNUGLS
[11:27] <benonsoftware> I don't know what the problem could be.
[11:27] <mudassar> GSL - GNU Scientific Library
[11:28] <mudassar> may be the same file can be existing somewhere else too ... that is meant for 64 bit
[11:28] <susundberg> are you sure that file ((usr/libg.a) is proper file? 64b and so-one?
[11:28] <susundberg> objdump to rescue
[11:29] <mudassar> because /lib and /lib64 folders are separate
[11:29] <susundberg> (try objdump -a <my file>.a
[11:29] <mudassar> let me check with /lib64, because libc.so also exists there
[11:29] <mudassar> ok
[11:30] <mudassar> dummy.o:     file format elf32-i386  rw-r--r-- 100/500    724 Apr 26 23:14 2011 dummy.o
[11:31] <mudassar> it says this
[11:31] <susundberg> oh i ment the library file
[11:31] <susundberg> you are trying to link 32b app?
[11:31] <susundberg> i guess .. :)
[11:31] <mudassar> no
[11:31] <mudassar> app is i guess 64 bit
[11:32] <susundberg> Since with 64b you should see "file format elf64-x86-64"
[11:32] <susundberg> (or at least i do)
[11:32] <mudassar> and another thing I did objdump for another libc.a file ....... it showd me like this
[11:32] <mudassar> yes like this
[11:33] <susundberg> So your compiler (intel) is doing 32b app and the library is 64bit -> not working
[11:34] <mudassar> how can see icc is 32bit or 64 bit
[11:34] <susundberg> it might be also that the glib is multilib (dont know more than the name on that sorry, cannot help) and the icc cannot handle multilib
[11:34] <bittin> updating my grandparents Kubuntu at the moment 255 updates in apt-get
[11:35] <susundberg> well if that dummy.o was produced with icc it shows that file is 32b
[11:35] <susundberg> i guess "-v" option usually also prints stuff
[11:35] <susundberg> but i have other things to do for now, be back later->
[11:37] <mudassar> ok thank you for your time
[11:39] <cousin_mario> bbl
[12:06] <hit> This is only a test.
[12:46] <sorush20> !fglrx
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:44] <naddy> hi everyone, how do I find out the actual error message? http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/22/plasma-desktophO2090.jpg
[14:35] <mudassar> hello there ?
[14:36] <mudassar> I want to call syscall(318) in c and compile it from icc... but the function returns -1
[15:11] <blip-> hi, I have a printer on my network connected to a Linux server and shared via SAMBA.  I can use this shared printer from my Windows system, but not from my Kubuntu machine.    I see the 'NAS'  entry under New Printer, and when I click on it, it hangs forever and doesn't expand to show me the printer..  http://postimage.org/image/2he18z58k/
[15:11] <blip-> any ideas what the problem could be ?
[15:20] <tobe> hi
[15:24] <Anubis> hi there
[15:25] <Anubis> is there a way to permanently remove akonadi and nepomuk
[15:42] <blip-> hi, I have a printer on my network connected to a Linux server and shared via SAMBA. I can use this shared printer from my Windows system, but not from my Kubuntu machine. I see the 'NAS' entry under New Printer, and when I click on it, it hangs forever and doesn't expand to show me the printer.. http://postimage.org/image/2he18z58k/
[15:42] <blip-> any ideas what the problem could be ?
[15:43] <Ratchetman> Phonon does not allow me to select my sound card on output device preference. I checked with Alsa and my card is supported for basic sound output. How can I add to list of outputs?
[15:49] <sizz> I cannot get Thunderbird to play any new mail sound (even default system sound), athough other system & application sounds are all working fine. Anyone else have this problem?
[16:00] <sorush20> how do I configure my xorg
[16:00] <sorush20> !xorg
[16:01] <DarthFrog> sorush20: X is configured via the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[16:01] <DarthFrog> sorush20:  On a map, it would be labelled "Here Be Dragons!". :-)
[16:02] <sorush20> DarthFrog: no its not there the xorg.conf, what should i do? I need to setup fglrx
[16:02] <sorush20> !fxlrx
[16:03] <sorush20> !fglrx
[16:04] <DarthFrog> sorush20: I'm not sure what you're asking.  I have a Radeon 5770 card and use the fglrx drivers.  They're set up in xorg.conf.
[16:04] <sorush20> DarthFrog: the xorg.conf is not in that location.
[16:05] <DarthFrog> sorush20: I believe I used the command "sudo aticonfig -f initial" to have them set up.
[16:09] <sorush20> DarthFrog: I get the message no supported  adaptors detected
[16:10] <DarthFrog>  What video card do you have?
[16:12] <sorush20> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] [1002:5960] (rev 01)
[16:12] <DarthFrog> That's an old card.
[16:14] <sorush20> What can I do?
[16:14] <DarthFrog> Use the ubuntu Radeon driver.
[16:15] <DarthFrog> Or get a newer card that is still supported by ATI.
[16:15] <sorush20> How do I stup the radeon driver
[16:15] <sorush20> I'm using kde and some of the eyecandy features are not showing
[16:15] <DarthFrog> It should have been done when you installed.
[16:16] <DarthFrog> The file, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, will tell you which driver is being used.
[16:16] <DarthFrog> Your card may not be capable of the eyecandy you're seeking.
[16:36] <sorush20> DarthFrog: I think you are wrong, I was able to before but not now.
[16:41] <maikiiiii> huhu
[16:42] <DarthFrog> sorush20: Which driver is Xorg using?
[16:42] <sorush20> its falling back to using non ati or radeon
[16:43] <DarthFrog> Are those drivers installed?
[16:44] <DarthFrog> dpkg --list | grep xserver   will tell you.
[16:44] <sorush20> http://pastebin.com/hdRFUS9x
[16:45] <sorush20> ati and radeon is installed but I wanted to use the fglrx if possible I've installed the fglrx packages but its not being used.
[16:46] <DarthFrog> sorush20: It's using the Radeon driver but dri is disabled as there is a kernel/driver mismatch.
[16:46] <DarthFrog> That's your issue.
[16:47] <har1994> sorush20: sorry for cuttingg in,Can't you compile for your distro
[16:47] <DarthFrog> try:  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", all on one line.
[16:48] <har1994> DarthFrog: we need a command like zypper dup as in opensuse
[16:48] <sorush20> har1994: I don't know if I can compile for my distor its been a long time since I did any compiling
[16:48] <sorush20> har1994: I've never compiled kernel..
[16:49] <har1994> sorush20:try looking for guides, there are many over there just google it.
[16:49] <sorush20> I have an amd rather than a i386, how do I instal l amd, its an amd64
[16:49] <DarthFrog> har1994:  I know nothing about that command, never heard of it before.  Mind you, SuSE 6 is the last version of SuSE that I've looked at. :-)
[16:49] <har1994> sorush20:i too have amd64 did check additional drivers in ubuntu
[16:50] <DarthFrog> sorush20: It's not your kernel that's the problem, it's the driver.  The kernel is too new for that driver.
[16:50] <har1994> DarthFrog:dup actually is distribution update...and it works as if os is freshly installed
[16:50] <sorush20> DarthFrog: what options do I have?
[16:50] <har1994> sorush20:can you tell me the kernek version
[16:51] <har1994> sorush20:i mean kernel
[16:51] <DarthFrog> har1994: Have a look at that pastebin link sorush20 put up of his Xorg.0.log file.
[16:52] <sorush20> Linux sorush2-desktop 2.6.38-10-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 2 21:32:54 UTC 2011 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[16:52] <har1994> DarthFrog:Ok  will check it out.
[16:53] <DarthFrog> sorush20:  You're running a 32-bit version of the OS on a 64-bit CPU.
[16:53] <mold_> hey i have a question
[16:53] <mold_> can anyone help me setup my wifi connection outside of kde
[16:53] <DarthFrog> sorush20: That was a question, BTW, not a statement. Sorry.
[16:53] <sorush20> DarthFrog: yes but I always thought that should be the case?
[16:54] <sorush20> mold_: expand on that question please? What do you mean outside of kde do you mena gnome?
[16:54] <DarthFrog> sorush20: Well, you're having problems.  Personally, I'd run a 64 bit OS on my 64 bit CPU.
[16:55] <DarthFrog> mold_: At the command line?  "man wpa_supplicant" will give you the manual for that.
[16:55] <sorush20> DarthFrog: will I have any problems such as printer drivers or etc?
[16:55] <DarthFrog> sorush20:  You shouldn't have.  But that's no guarantee, of course.
[16:55] <mold_> well either it only sets it self up for when im in one of the enviroments
[16:56] <mold_> so say i wanna use a different window manager i wont have internet
[16:56] <sorush20> mold_: you should do unless your settings get messed up
[16:56] <mold_> im not sure how they would
[16:57] <DarthFrog> mold_:  Yeah, for that you need to set up wpa_supplicant manually.
[16:57] <mold_> alright you got a link that can help me out?
[16:57] <DarthFrog> It's not hard but can be somewhat involved.
[16:59] <DarthFrog> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/wpa_supplicant.conf.5.html
[17:00] <mold_> i just came back to linux i never had wireless back in the day
[17:28] <ubuntu____> O/   alguien que me ayude con un problem en arch?
[17:31] <Goliath> hey
[17:31] <Goliath> i have a problem
[17:33] <Goliath> i am booting kubuntu livecd, i removed the cd tried to launch k3b, got error saying couldnt find k3b, i reinserted the cd and the error persists. what should i do?
[17:39] <genii-around> Goliath: Probably to make an USB stick from the cd image with Startup Disk Creator, boot to that instead, then run k3b. Otherwise you get the chicken-egg problem of running k3b from the cd while trying to use the cd to burn with.
[17:40] <Goliath> genii-around: but k3b runs from ram right?
[17:41] <genii-around> Goliath: The livecd locks the cd drive
[17:42] <Goliath> genii-around: it doesnt lock it on my system
[17:44] <genii-around> Goliath: You can of course override it by hitting the physical button to bring out the tray, or by forcibly sudo eject /dev/cdrom0  or such.
[17:45] <genii-around> Likely dmesg has some complaints in it
[17:46] <Goliath> genii-around: if i eject it and insert it again
[17:46] <Goliath> is everything ok? or do i have to reboot
[17:46] <Goliath> and select livecd again
[17:47] <test_> hallo
[18:08] <Spaz_Dynamic> Is there a way I can install the 32bit python 2.6 package on my 64bit kubuntu? I have some scripts or whathaveyou that don't run right with 64bit py2.6.
[18:18] <genii-around> Spaz_Dynamic: There seems something about it here for 9.10 http://indefinitestudies.org/2010/02/08/how-to-build-32-bit-python-on-ubuntu-9-10-x86_64/    ... looks like they are assuming you already did something like apt-get source -o APT::Architecture "i386" python2.6        and then are in the directory
[18:22] <sorush20> hi, DarthFrog
[18:22] <sorush20> I'm still having the same problem. I have kubuntu amd64 installed but I'm unable to install fglrx as the driver for the graphics card.
[18:28] <genii-around> sorush20: I'm not currently using any systems with ATI cards, but when I did I found http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu to be extremely helpful
[19:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> genii-around: so, having some issues with that. I follow their directions and it still seems to be 64bit. also, where does the suggested apt-get command download that source package? (this may be why it isn't working right)
[19:19] <genii-around> Spaz_Dynamic: That apt-get command will put it in the directory from which you called it
[19:20] <Spaz_Dynamic> genii-around: Ah, ok
[19:24] <genii-around> Spaz_Dynamic: What says result of: file /opt/pym32/bin/python       ?
[19:27] <Spaz_Dynamic> ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, not stripped
[19:27] <genii-around> Hm, yes, it made a 64 bit
[19:28] <Spaz_Dynamic> yeah
[19:28] <Spaz_Dynamic> I heard that python fails to heed ./configure options due to automake or something. Don't remember where I saw that.
[19:31] <BluesKaj> well, wireless KB and mouse sub as a remote on my setup
[19:32] <BluesKaj> oops wrong chat
[19:45] <Spaz_Dynamic> genii-around: any ideas?
[19:47] <genii-around> Spaz_Dynamic: Sorry, fresh out
[19:47] <genii-around> Spaz_Dynamic: Although maybe some 32bit chroot
[19:50] <Spaz_Dynamic> genii-around: Yeah, thought about trying that
[19:56] <Spaz_Dynamic> genii-around: Actually, I thikn it might be a little easier if I just use a VM.
[20:46] <cousin_mario> hello
[20:47] <cousin_mario> will ff5 enter the stable repos or will it always be on PPA for natty?
[21:03] <sanek> Ребят помогите кто ни будь
[21:03] <sanek> срочно нужна помощь
[21:03] <cousin_mario> gesundheit!
[21:04] <sanek> hi al my kubuntu has problem
[21:04] <sanek> help me
[21:05] <sanek> soom body
[21:09] <sanek> who help my (((((
[22:05] <MajinSaiyan> My neighbor has a huge problem with his iphone 3g. I swear it's not stolen! The phone is disabled and says to connect to itunes, so itunes says that i need to enter the passcode before it can synch. However i can't enter the code because it doesn't give me the option. Is there a way to browse through the phone to extract certain files? I don't mind restoring it, but i want a few files before doing the restore.
[22:07] <MajinSaiyan> I am running Natty btw. Natty says that i need to enter the passcode on the device before i can mount it.
[23:02] <snikker> which program I use to synchronize data between desktop and notebok? (and vice versa)
[23:15] <jwash> has anyone seen the garbled vnc graphics like this pic? if yes, can you point to a fix?
[23:15] <jwash> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dgjv43&s=4
[23:36] <iconmefisto> I'm considering upgrading kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04. any advice, comments, warnings about 11.04 vs 10.10?
[23:42] <Torch> the nvidia driver is horribly broken
[23:42] <Torch> as in cannot-use-will-crash-your-system-broken
[23:53] <Firefishe> I'm experimenting with running Natty in vitualbox. So far, it's just like native, with a small bit of lag, but it's trivial. My question is: Can I, somehow, run all my OS's on my computer as Type I Hypervisors, and, if so, how is this accomplished?
[23:59] <LINKSWORD2> Hello, Linkmaster