| jcrigby | persia: ping? | 00:27 |
|---|---|---|
| persia | jcrigby, Hey. | 00:40 |
| jcrigby | persia, I need you to send the technical board an email to ask them to tweek permissions to the packages to which the DMB has granted me upload rights | 00:41 |
| jcrigby | persia, or so I have been told | 00:41 |
| persia | That never happened? Ugh. Sure, I'll take care of that today. | 00:41 |
| jcrigby | persia, thanks! | 00:42 |
| persia | Really what you need is for someone with the right permissions to run the correct LP API client script. | 00:42 |
| persia | But yeah, my sending email will probably make that happen. | 00:42 |
| jcrigby | or at least with the email I can ping a TB member on IRC to remind them | 00:43 |
| persia | They're usually fairly good about that. | 00:44 |
| persia | In the meantime, if you have some packages somewhere and just need a signature, I'm happy to push them. | 00:44 |
| === Lopi|idle is now known as Lopi | ||
| rsalveti | Daviey: jcrigby is working on pushing a new u-boot release in the following days | 01:59 |
| rsalveti | that should cover PXE support | 01:59 |
| rsalveti | at least the initial support | 01:59 |
| rsalveti | jcrigby: still don't have the permission to push the packages? | 02:00 |
| jcrigby | rsalveti, I'm hoping that that will be fixed in the morning. If not I will ping some TB members | 02:01 |
| rsalveti | jcrigby: cool | 02:02 |
| rsalveti | jcrigby: as you're the u-boot maintainer from linaro side, are you ok releasing it at this thursday? | 02:03 |
| rsalveti | iirc this is the same day the kernel team is tagging their tree | 02:03 |
| jcrigby | rsalveti, yes I believe that is fine. The core functionality works the USB related stuff seems to work for others but not me:) | 02:04 |
| rsalveti | jcrigby: we can try to do some debugging on this next week | 02:04 |
| jcrigby | rsalveti, sounds good. I also sent some questions to some ti folks. I got back a response from a third person asking for pointers to git trees which I provided. | 02:05 |
| persia | jcrigby, rsalveti: Will that cover https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-o-arm-uboot-tftp ? | 02:22 |
| persia | Or does that spec need workitems, approval, etc.? | 02:23 |
| rsalveti | persia: yup | 02:23 |
| persia | Ah, cool! | 02:23 |
| jcrigby | persia, at least for panda | 02:23 |
| rsalveti | we may end up doing a hack session to try to also get it working for xM | 02:23 |
| persia | jcrigby, Hrm? Does linaro's u-boot implementation differ by board? | 02:23 |
| rsalveti | but don't know the current status of the usb patches for xM | 02:23 |
| rsalveti | persia: not tftp and pxe, but the usb and network driver | 02:24 |
| rsalveti | that depends on the hardware | 02:24 |
| persia | Aha! So the functionality will be there, but drivers may not be there. | 02:24 |
| jcrigby | persia, exactly | 02:24 |
| persia | Could someone more knowledgeable update the spec description to indicate what is actually being implemented? | 02:24 |
| rsalveti | persia: yeah, that's on my plate | 02:25 |
| rsalveti | didn't do it yet because was busy with the unity and compiz work | 02:25 |
| persia | Also, is there interest from other Linaro members to get their network or USB drivers into u-boot? | 02:25 |
| jcrigby | persia, we may get omap3 working as well, it has usb working for storgage just not tested for networking yet | 02:25 |
| persia | How about mx5 or one of the others? | 02:26 |
| jcrigby | persia, not sure | 02:26 |
| persia | Heh. That's about what I expected :) | 02:26 |
| rsalveti | that would be nice to check with the specific landing team | 02:26 |
| persia | Do you guys want to check? Do you want to give me names, and I'll ask folk? | 02:27 |
| rsalveti | persia: https://wiki.linaro.org/LandingTeams | 02:28 |
| persia | Heh. OK. I'll ask folk. | 02:28 |
| persia | Please let me know when the spec is in shape, as I'll be pointing them there as I ask. | 02:28 |
| rsalveti | persia: https://wiki.linaro.org/MeetTheTeam#Member_Services | 02:28 |
| rsalveti | persia: just ping directly the landing team TLs | 02:29 |
| persia | They already have all the context? | 02:29 |
| rsalveti | probably not, usually they are mainly working on the kernel side | 02:29 |
| persia | That's what I thought :) I'll wait until the spec is clear, so I have something real to talk about. | 02:30 |
| rsalveti | ok | 02:30 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| dhana013 | Hi hello I want ubuntu 10.04 arm926 how to make from scratch | 06:59 |
| dhana013 | any one help me | 06:59 |
| dhana013 | I want ubuntu 10.04 arm926 | 07:40 |
| dhana013 | how to do it? | 07:40 |
| dhana013 | I am trying with rootstock | 07:40 |
| infinity | dhana013: ARM926 is ARMv5, Ubuntu only supports ARMv7 at this point. | 07:41 |
| infinity | dhana013: So, you either need to be prepared to replace the toolchain and literally rebuild the entire archive (ouch), use an older release that supported ARMv5, or perhaps use Debian? | 07:42 |
| dhana013 | thanks for u r information | 07:49 |
| Daviey | rsalveti: super, thanks | 09:46 |
| === aviksil1 is now known as aviksil_ | ||
| Spider-Pork | morning | 11:21 |
| Spider-Pork | i am using ubuntu 11.04 headless on my pandaboard. I need a console on monitor+mouse+keyboard instead of 115200 serial. Any help? | 11:22 |
| Spider-Pork | Need i to modify boot script? | 11:23 |
| ogra_ | it will fire up tty logins after the configuration is done | 11:23 |
| ogra_ | so if you can do your configuration on serial it should already do what you want after that | 11:24 |
| Spider-Pork | i would to have console on my dvi-d external monitor instead serial terminal | 11:25 |
| ogra_ | if you actually *need* oem-config on a framebuffer you indeed need to modify the cmdline a bit | 11:25 |
| Spider-Pork | ok, you mean the cmd line at the boot prompt? | 11:25 |
| ogra_ | but beyond that, only the first boot config actually requires serial in the default configuration | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | i mean you need to edits boot.scr of the virgin, unbooted image | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | *edit | 11:26 |
| Spider-Pork | ok | 11:27 |
| Spider-Pork | is there a guide to help this edit? | 11:27 |
| ogra_ | somewhere in the ubuntu wiki i think | 11:27 |
| Spider-Pork | ok, thank you ogra_ | 11:27 |
| ogra_ | look at the subpages of /ARM/OMAP on wiki.ubuntu.com | 11:28 |
| ogra_ | but if i were you i would just go with the default, do the first boot config on serial and then use the monitor | 11:28 |
| Spider-Pork | sorry but i am just noob about these stuff. How can i use monitor after first boot? | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | there will be a login prompt on your screen, you just log in | 11:30 |
| Spider-Pork | ehm, no there isn't | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | you already created the user and set the timezone etc ? | 11:31 |
| Spider-Pork | yep the machine is running | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | did you reboot since ? | 11:32 |
| Spider-Pork | yep | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | with the monitor plugged in ? | 11:32 |
| Spider-Pork | and i see the boot menu on serial console | 11:32 |
| Spider-Pork | yep | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | boot menu ? | 11:32 |
| Spider-Pork | hit any key to stop auto-boot | 11:32 |
| Spider-Pork | 3 2 1... | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | ah | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | so it boots to a login prompt on the serial console ? | 11:33 |
| Spider-Pork | yep | 11:33 |
| Spider-Pork | i see che serial config inside boot.script | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | ps ax|grep getty | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | do you see getty's running on the differnt tty's ? | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | it should list tty1 to 6 | 11:34 |
| Spider-Pork | ogra_: http://ideone.com/n7GoA | 11:35 |
| ogra_ | so there are login prompts running on your ttys | 11:35 |
| ogra_ | are you sure your monitor is connected correctly ? | 11:36 |
| Spider-Pork | i think yes | 11:36 |
| Spider-Pork | the monitor has dvi-d interface | 11:37 |
| ogra_ | well, there should be no reason that you dont see a login prompt on your screen | 11:37 |
| Spider-Pork | so i'm using a dvi-d/hdmi A cable | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | and you connected to which socket ? | 11:38 |
| Spider-Pork | the external one | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | on the panda, to which graphics port did you connect ? | 11:38 |
| Spider-Pork | the external port | 11:38 |
| Spider-Pork | there are two ports | 11:38 |
| Spider-Pork | one near ethernet cable | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | there is a hdmi and a dvi one | 11:38 |
| Spider-Pork | and one external | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | they are labeled | 11:39 |
| Spider-Pork | dvi one | 11:39 |
| ogra_ | did you try the other one ? | 11:39 |
| Spider-Pork | nope because the label says: DVI-D and i'm using a DVI-D cable | 11:39 |
| Spider-Pork | i try | 11:39 |
| Spider-Pork | now is working | 11:40 |
| ogra_ | :) | 11:41 |
| Spider-Pork | thank you ogra_ | 11:41 |
| Spider-Pork | why? | 11:41 |
| Spider-Pork | i followed the tag on the board | 11:41 |
| Spider-Pork | nice thank you ogra_ | 11:42 |
| Spider-Pork | i saw inside boot script that the ram is limited to 512M | 11:43 |
| Spider-Pork | why? | 11:43 |
| ogra_ | it isnt | 11:43 |
| ogra_ | check with free | 11:43 |
| ogra_ | there is a reserved memory area for the dicati engine | 11:43 |
| ogra_ | *ducati | 11:43 |
| Spider-Pork | ah ok | 11:44 |
| Spider-Pork | and ducati engine is? | 11:44 |
| ogra_ | starting at 512m | 11:44 |
| ogra_ | ducati does all the multimedia processing | 11:44 |
| Spider-Pork | ah cool | 11:44 |
| Spider-Pork | thank you | 11:44 |
| ppisati | i like the ducati monster carbon black | 11:59 |
| * ppisati hides... | 11:59 | |
| ppisati | :) | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | the one that MacSlow has ? | 12:00 |
| ppisati | who? | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | MacSlow from the DX team | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | i think he drives one | 12:00 |
| ppisati | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ducati_Monster_620_Dark.jpg | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | i think thats the one, not 100% sure | 12:01 |
| ppisati | cool, i like it :) | 12:01 |
| ppisati | ogra_: btw, any updates on the ac100 image? | 12:02 |
| ppisati | ogra_: shall i bring mine to dublin? so you can see where the installatin fails? | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | just rolling a new kernel package | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | yes pleas | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | e | 12:03 |
| ppisati | ok | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | what model was that ? | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | 10Z ? | 12:03 |
| ppisati | wai | 12:03 |
| ppisati | t | 12:03 |
| ppisati | yep | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | sigh | 12:04 |
| ppisati | uat? | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | ok, so its definitely a prob with that model | 12:04 |
| ppisati | ouch | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | tobin has the same | 12:04 |
| ppisati | and it fails in the same way | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | but he got a 10U now which works fine | 12:04 |
| ppisati | plymouth fails and lalala | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | that we will see in dublin ;) | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | the plymouth messages are just cosmetic | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | you can ignore them | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | thats not the cause of the issue | 12:05 |
| ppisati | ok | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | apparently the unpacked tarball is corrupt | 12:05 |
| ppisati | ouch | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | so your rootfs isnt completely there | 12:06 |
| ppisati | did you roll a new rootfs too? | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | that seems to only happen on that one model which is really weird | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | i will | 12:06 |
| ppisati | ok | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | first the kernel needs to be up to date ... that takes a day | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | but i plan to have a newer natty image in place before the sprint and hopefully also a headles spin | 12:07 |
| ppisati | cool | 12:08 |
| ppisati | a headless would be awesome | 12:08 |
| ppisati | as a side note, there's a fix for the usb thing on omap | 12:09 |
| ogra_ | yup, i hear you | 12:09 |
| ogra_ | i thought that didnt work ? | 12:09 |
| ppisati | there's a new one :) | 12:09 |
| ppisati | actually 2 patches | 12:09 |
| ppisati | but anyway | 12:09 |
| ppisati | testing right now | 12:09 |
| ppisati | works on omap4 | 12:09 |
| ppisati | trying omap3 now | 12:10 |
| ppisati | and while it compiles, i think i'll grab some food | 12:11 |
| ppisati | and now it breaks in new and unexpected ways... ohhhh... | 12:40 |
| ogra_ | joy ! | 12:43 |
| === zyga-food is now known as zyga | ||
| lugu | Hi! I am trying to port Ubuntu to an HTC device, but the audio driver neither support ALSA not OSS... | 12:54 |
| lugu | it use a specific device /dev/msm_pcm_out ... | 12:55 |
| lugu | do other ARM devices have exotic sound support? | 12:56 |
| hrw | which htc device? | 12:58 |
| brendand_ | what does the pandaboard do with the led's if there's been a kernel panic? | 14:15 |
| brendand_ | heh, it's back now. everything froze for a while | 14:16 |
| lilstevie | lugu: some do some don't depends on the Audio codec | 14:33 |
| lilstevie | lugu: just out of interest what device | 14:33 |
| dhana013 | How to port ubuntu 9.10 for ARM926 | 14:47 |
| lilstevie | dhana013: that is a lot of work | 14:51 |
| lilstevie | ARM926 is armv5 afaik | 14:52 |
| lilstevie | which means compiling every last thing | 14:52 |
| dhana013 | I have tried with rootstock not working | 14:53 |
| lilstevie | rootstock doesnt compile everything | 14:53 |
| lilstevie | you need to get teh source for everything and compile | 14:53 |
| dhana013 | give any link | 14:54 |
| lilstevie | not offhand | 14:55 |
| lilstevie | personally I would just use debian | 14:55 |
| lilstevie | it is a lot of work | 14:55 |
| peteiow | Hello is there a chat room for new users please? | 16:16 |
| persia | persia, Depending on your question, here may be fine. | 16:17 |
| * persia fails tab completion | 16:17 | |
| lilstevie | persia: hehe I hate it when that happens, | 16:19 |
| persia | "peteiow" < "persia", but apparently my client was processing the /part just at the moment I pressed <tab>, but before having printed it :) | 16:20 |
| persia | Err, no, I'm completely wrong. Still, shouldn't complete to myself :/ | 16:20 |
| lilstevie | heh I tabcomp with 2 chars so it would have for me | 16:21 |
| lilstevie | but my client also completes to the last to talk for a given pattern | 16:21 |
| persia | That's helpful. Extra points if it also includes those who have already left the channel in the candidates. | 16:22 |
| lilstevie | no extra points | 16:23 |
| lilstevie | :( | 16:23 |
| lilstevie | part and rejoin resets that person in the queue | 16:23 |
| persia | (perhaps for some time (e.g. 300 seconds), with the timeout indefinitely extended when there is an outstanding highlight from that nick) | 16:23 |
| persia | Oh, that makes it extra tricky for folk who bounce a lot. | 16:24 |
| persia | (or netsplits) | 16:24 |
| lilstevie | yeah :/ | 16:24 |
| persia | Oh, you might know: earlier apachelogger was asking about GLES drivers for i.MX53, and whether there were any available under terms that could allow them into multiverse. | 16:25 |
| lilstevie | no idea, but a quick look at freescales site indicates that the drivers may be difficlt | 16:29 |
| lilstevie | s/difficlt/difficult/ | 16:29 |
| persia | Yeah, that was my experience from the same look. | 16:29 |
| persia | I can never keep track of which devices you're playing with, so I figured it was worth asking :) | 16:30 |
| lilstevie | what is the stance on licencing for multiverse, needs to be canonical friendly, or is it maintainer of the package is responcible | 16:31 |
| persia | Needs to be mirror-friendly. | 16:32 |
| lilstevie | ah | 16:32 |
| persia | Specifically, needs to allow redistribution without cost or explicit acceptance. | 16:32 |
| lilstevie | that is fair enough | 16:33 |
| lilstevie | as for the devices I am playing with, as a general rule, mainstream android devices | 16:33 |
| persia | It's rather relaxed. That said, be careful if you use software from there: some of it requires sending postcards to folk, some of it is non-commercial only, some can't be used in some countries, etc. | 16:33 |
| lilstevie | ages ago it was the iphone | 16:33 |
| persia | Oh, just retail stuff? I thought you sometimes did development boards also. | 16:34 |
| lilstevie | I don't get my hands on many dev boards these days :( | 16:34 |
| persia | Prices keep dropping (although I'll admit I much prefer retail devices) | 16:34 |
| lilstevie | yeah | 16:35 |
| lilstevie | polish of retail devices is just that bit nicer | 16:35 |
| lilstevie | even if I am bringing an unsupported os :p | 16:35 |
| persia | They also stack and travel better. | 16:35 |
| lilstevie | looking forward to my next target | 16:35 |
| lilstevie | yeah that is true | 16:36 |
| persia | What do you have planned? | 16:37 |
| lilstevie | transformer | 16:37 |
| persia | That's the one that turns into a robot? | 16:38 |
| lilstevie | haha the one that turns into a netbook | 16:39 |
| persia | Ah, so not http://mobilementalism.com/2007/09/04/motorola-transformer-phone/ | 16:39 |
| lilstevie | haha no, | 16:40 |
| lilstevie | that thing looks cool though | 16:40 |
| lilstevie | ASUS eeepad transformer | 16:40 |
| persia | Oooh, nice. | 16:41 |
| lilstevie | yeah :) | 16:41 |
| lilstevie | should arrive soonish | 16:41 |
| persia | Any chance that a kernel could be constructed that worked for both that and the ac100, or is too little autodetectable? | 16:42 |
| lilstevie | probably a bit big | 16:43 |
| persia | big meaning incompatible with the partitioning, or just extra megabytes? | 16:43 |
| lilstevie | big meaning extra megabytes which arent able to be spared :( | 16:44 |
| persia | What's the limitation there? | 16:44 |
| lilstevie | ogra was saying as it is the natty initramfs does not fit due to the size limitations | 16:44 |
| lilstevie | most android devices have a limitation of around 7-8MB | 16:45 |
| persia | Oh, the partitioning. | 16:45 |
| persia | We definitely need a way to safely and correctly repartition those, and apply a bootloader we can understand. | 16:46 |
| persia | On my Dynabook, I have about 3GB wasted because of the restrictions, and having to maintain multiple kernel trees just makes it hard. | 16:47 |
| lilstevie | well on these tegra devices it shouldn't be that horrible | 16:47 |
| lilstevie | on my galaxy tab I had to tweak compression and rip things down | 16:47 |
| lilstevie | but if I understand what APX mode is, it should be a bootrom level recovery mechanism | 16:48 |
| lilstevie | opening the doors to porting uboot | 16:48 |
| persia | Oh, excellent! | 16:48 |
| lilstevie | I wouldnt dare for my tab though | 16:49 |
| lilstevie | sbl is the lowest form of recovery | 16:49 |
| === zyga is now known as zyga-food | ||
| lilstevie | well bedtime I think :) | 16:53 |
| persia | Sleep well. | 16:53 |
| lilstevie | I'll try :) | 16:53 |
| lilstevie | have a good morning/day/afternoon/evening/night | 16:53 |
| rsalveti | janimo: any idea already why firefox takes so much time to start on arm? | 17:53 |
| cpearson | which version? | 17:56 |
| rsalveti | cpearson: any version :-) | 17:58 |
| rsalveti | cpearson: janimo had a bp to try to speed it up | 17:58 |
| rsalveti | cpearson: the webm issue is related with thumb2 support | 17:58 |
| rsalveti | built firefox 5 without thumb2 and I'm able to play youtube videos with html5 + webm | 17:58 |
| rsalveti | reporting at bug 789198 now | 17:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 789198 in firefox "Firefox crashes when attempting to play webm video OMAP4 Panda Board" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789198 | 17:59 |
| rsalveti | sorry, was supposed to be to chrisccoulson :-) | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | rsalveti, thanks. i'm sure it was somebody in here who turned on thumb2 support ;) | 18:00 |
| ogra_ | it wasnt :P | 18:00 |
| ogra_ | doko turned it on :) | 18:01 |
| hrw | have a nice day(s) - see you on friday | 18:01 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, janimo has a spec to research that | 18:01 |
| ogra_ | (firefox startup time) | 18:01 |
| rsalveti | ogra: chrisccoulson: was changed by bug 696895 | 18:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 696895 in xulrunner-2.0 "FTBFS on armel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696895 | 18:05 |
| rsalveti | janimo probably added it | 18:05 |
| ogra_ | thats a quite old bug id | 18:06 |
| ogra_ | january, hmm | 18:06 |
| rsalveti | not *that* old | 18:08 |
| rsalveti | seems to affect only libvpx | 18:08 |
| rsalveti | that is used when playing webm videos | 18:08 |
| rsalveti | probably nobody ever tested it | 18:08 |
| ogra_ | so libvpx needs to learn thumb2 ? | 18:09 |
| rsalveti | ogra: think so, but the problem is that firefox keeps it's own version of libvpx | 18:09 |
| rsalveti | and link it against libxul (huge link) | 18:09 |
| ogra_ | oh fun | 18:09 |
| rsalveti | chrisccoulson: will build against latest nightly and report the bug upstream | 18:16 |
| rsalveti | ogra: chrisccoulson: should we disable thumb2 support for now? I can create the debdiff | 18:17 |
| rsalveti | this will let people play youtube videos with webm support (html5) | 18:17 |
| ogra_ | if that doesnt cause an ftbfs again | 18:17 |
| rsalveti | I believe it's important as we don't have proper flash support | 18:17 |
| * ogra_ would love to use youtube on his ac100 :) | 18:17 | |
| rsalveti | ok, will create the debdiff and fire up a build at my ppa to see if it all goes well :-) | 18:18 |
| === zyga-food is now known as zyga | ||
| sveinse | What is the difference between Ubuntu's 11.04 and Linaro's 11.05 ? | 21:24 |
| charlie-tca | Linaro released a month later, since it wasn't ready in April | 21:27 |
| sveinse | That's obvious, but what else is Linaro throwing into the box since they have their own release of it | 21:31 |
| charlie-tca | !linaro | 21:36 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'linaro' not found | 21:36 |
| === prpplague^3 is now known as prpplague | ||
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