[00:27] persia: ping? [00:40] jcrigby, Hey. [00:41] persia, I need you to send the technical board an email to ask them to tweek permissions to the packages to which the DMB has granted me upload rights [00:41] persia, or so I have been told [00:41] That never happened? Ugh. Sure, I'll take care of that today. [00:42] persia, thanks! [00:42] Really what you need is for someone with the right permissions to run the correct LP API client script. [00:42] But yeah, my sending email will probably make that happen. [00:43] or at least with the email I can ping a TB member on IRC to remind them [00:44] They're usually fairly good about that. [00:44] In the meantime, if you have some packages somewhere and just need a signature, I'm happy to push them. === Lopi|idle is now known as Lopi [01:59] Daviey: jcrigby is working on pushing a new u-boot release in the following days [01:59] that should cover PXE support [01:59] at least the initial support [02:00] jcrigby: still don't have the permission to push the packages? [02:01] rsalveti, I'm hoping that that will be fixed in the morning. If not I will ping some TB members [02:02] jcrigby: cool [02:03] jcrigby: as you're the u-boot maintainer from linaro side, are you ok releasing it at this thursday? [02:03] iirc this is the same day the kernel team is tagging their tree [02:04] rsalveti, yes I believe that is fine. The core functionality works the USB related stuff seems to work for others but not me:) [02:04] jcrigby: we can try to do some debugging on this next week [02:05] rsalveti, sounds good. I also sent some questions to some ti folks. I got back a response from a third person asking for pointers to git trees which I provided. [02:22] jcrigby, rsalveti: Will that cover https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-o-arm-uboot-tftp ? [02:23] Or does that spec need workitems, approval, etc.? [02:23] persia: yup [02:23] Ah, cool! [02:23] persia, at least for panda [02:23] we may end up doing a hack session to try to also get it working for xM [02:23] jcrigby, Hrm? Does linaro's u-boot implementation differ by board? [02:23] but don't know the current status of the usb patches for xM [02:24] persia: not tftp and pxe, but the usb and network driver [02:24] that depends on the hardware [02:24] Aha! So the functionality will be there, but drivers may not be there. [02:24] persia, exactly [02:24] Could someone more knowledgeable update the spec description to indicate what is actually being implemented? [02:25] persia: yeah, that's on my plate [02:25] didn't do it yet because was busy with the unity and compiz work [02:25] Also, is there interest from other Linaro members to get their network or USB drivers into u-boot? [02:25] persia, we may get omap3 working as well, it has usb working for storgage just not tested for networking yet [02:26] How about mx5 or one of the others? [02:26] persia, not sure [02:26] Heh. That's about what I expected :) [02:26] that would be nice to check with the specific landing team [02:27] Do you guys want to check? Do you want to give me names, and I'll ask folk? [02:28] persia: https://wiki.linaro.org/LandingTeams [02:28] Heh. OK. I'll ask folk. [02:28] Please let me know when the spec is in shape, as I'll be pointing them there as I ask. [02:28] persia: https://wiki.linaro.org/MeetTheTeam#Member_Services [02:29] persia: just ping directly the landing team TLs [02:29] They already have all the context? [02:29] probably not, usually they are mainly working on the kernel side [02:30] That's what I thought :) I'll wait until the spec is clear, so I have something real to talk about. [02:30] ok === asac_ is now known as asac [06:59] Hi hello I want ubuntu 10.04 arm926 how to make from scratch [06:59] any one help me [07:40] I want ubuntu 10.04 arm926 [07:40] how to do it? [07:40] I am trying with rootstock [07:41] dhana013: ARM926 is ARMv5, Ubuntu only supports ARMv7 at this point. [07:42] dhana013: So, you either need to be prepared to replace the toolchain and literally rebuild the entire archive (ouch), use an older release that supported ARMv5, or perhaps use Debian? [07:49] thanks for u r information [09:46] rsalveti: super, thanks === aviksil1 is now known as aviksil_ [11:21] morning [11:22] i am using ubuntu 11.04 headless on my pandaboard. I need a console on monitor+mouse+keyboard instead of 115200 serial. Any help? [11:23] Need i to modify boot script? [11:23] it will fire up tty logins after the configuration is done [11:24] so if you can do your configuration on serial it should already do what you want after that [11:25] i would to have console on my dvi-d external monitor instead serial terminal [11:25] if you actually *need* oem-config on a framebuffer you indeed need to modify the cmdline a bit [11:25] ok, you mean the cmd line at the boot prompt? [11:26] but beyond that, only the first boot config actually requires serial in the default configuration [11:26] i mean you need to edits boot.scr of the virgin, unbooted image [11:26] *edit [11:27] ok [11:27] is there a guide to help this edit? [11:27] somewhere in the ubuntu wiki i think [11:27] ok, thank you ogra_ [11:28] look at the subpages of /ARM/OMAP on wiki.ubuntu.com [11:28] but if i were you i would just go with the default, do the first boot config on serial and then use the monitor [11:30] sorry but i am just noob about these stuff. How can i use monitor after first boot? [11:30] there will be a login prompt on your screen, you just log in [11:30] ehm, no there isn't [11:31] you already created the user and set the timezone etc ? [11:31] yep the machine is running [11:32] did you reboot since ? [11:32] yep [11:32] with the monitor plugged in ? [11:32] and i see the boot menu on serial console [11:32] yep [11:32] boot menu ? [11:32] hit any key to stop auto-boot [11:32] 3 2 1... [11:32] ah [11:33] so it boots to a login prompt on the serial console ? [11:33] yep [11:33] i see che serial config inside boot.script [11:34] ps ax|grep getty [11:34] do you see getty's running on the differnt tty's ? [11:34] it should list tty1 to 6 [11:35] ogra_: http://ideone.com/n7GoA [11:35] so there are login prompts running on your ttys [11:36] are you sure your monitor is connected correctly ? [11:36] i think yes [11:37] the monitor has dvi-d interface [11:37] well, there should be no reason that you dont see a login prompt on your screen [11:38] so i'm using a dvi-d/hdmi A cable [11:38] and you connected to which socket ? [11:38] the external one [11:38] on the panda, to which graphics port did you connect ? [11:38] the external port [11:38] there are two ports [11:38] one near ethernet cable [11:38] there is a hdmi and a dvi one [11:38] and one external [11:39] they are labeled [11:39] dvi one [11:39] did you try the other one ? [11:39] nope because the label says: DVI-D and i'm using a DVI-D cable [11:39] i try [11:40] now is working [11:41] :) [11:41] thank you ogra_ [11:41] why? [11:41] i followed the tag on the board [11:42] nice thank you ogra_ [11:43] i saw inside boot script that the ram is limited to 512M [11:43] why? [11:43] it isnt [11:43] check with free [11:43] there is a reserved memory area for the dicati engine [11:43] *ducati [11:44] ah ok [11:44] and ducati engine is? [11:44] starting at 512m [11:44] ducati does all the multimedia processing [11:44] ah cool [11:44] thank you [11:59] i like the ducati monster carbon black [11:59] * ppisati hides... [11:59] :) [12:00] the one that MacSlow has ? [12:00] who? [12:00] MacSlow from the DX team [12:00] i think he drives one [12:00] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ducati_Monster_620_Dark.jpg [12:01] i think thats the one, not 100% sure [12:01] cool, i like it :) [12:02] ogra_: btw, any updates on the ac100 image? [12:03] ogra_: shall i bring mine to dublin? so you can see where the installatin fails? [12:03] just rolling a new kernel package [12:03] yes pleas [12:03] e [12:03] ok [12:03] what model was that ? [12:03] 10Z ? [12:03] wai [12:03] t [12:03] yep [12:04] sigh [12:04] uat? [12:04] ok, so its definitely a prob with that model [12:04] ouch [12:04] tobin has the same [12:04] and it fails in the same way [12:04] but he got a 10U now which works fine [12:05] plymouth fails and lalala [12:05] that we will see in dublin ;) [12:05] the plymouth messages are just cosmetic [12:05] you can ignore them [12:05] thats not the cause of the issue [12:05] ok [12:05] apparently the unpacked tarball is corrupt [12:06] ouch [12:06] so your rootfs isnt completely there [12:06] did you roll a new rootfs too? [12:06] that seems to only happen on that one model which is really weird [12:06] i will [12:06] ok [12:06] first the kernel needs to be up to date ... that takes a day [12:07] but i plan to have a newer natty image in place before the sprint and hopefully also a headles spin [12:08] cool [12:08] a headless would be awesome [12:09] as a side note, there's a fix for the usb thing on omap [12:09] yup, i hear you [12:09] i thought that didnt work ? [12:09] there's a new one :) [12:09] actually 2 patches [12:09] but anyway [12:09] testing right now [12:09] works on omap4 [12:10] trying omap3 now [12:11] and while it compiles, i think i'll grab some food [12:40] and now it breaks in new and unexpected ways... ohhhh... [12:43] joy ! === zyga-food is now known as zyga [12:54] Hi! I am trying to port Ubuntu to an HTC device, but the audio driver neither support ALSA not OSS... [12:55] it use a specific device /dev/msm_pcm_out ... [12:56] do other ARM devices have exotic sound support? [12:58] which htc device? [14:15] what does the pandaboard do with the led's if there's been a kernel panic? [14:16] heh, it's back now. everything froze for a while [14:33] lugu: some do some don't depends on the Audio codec [14:33] lugu: just out of interest what device [14:47] How to port ubuntu 9.10 for ARM926 [14:51] dhana013: that is a lot of work [14:52] ARM926 is armv5 afaik [14:52] which means compiling every last thing [14:53] I have tried with rootstock not working [14:53] rootstock doesnt compile everything [14:53] you need to get teh source for everything and compile [14:54] give any link [14:55] not offhand [14:55] personally I would just use debian [14:55] it is a lot of work [16:16] Hello is there a chat room for new users please? [16:17] persia, Depending on your question, here may be fine. [16:17] * persia fails tab completion [16:19] persia: hehe I hate it when that happens, [16:20] "peteiow" < "persia", but apparently my client was processing the /part just at the moment I pressed , but before having printed it :) [16:20] Err, no, I'm completely wrong. Still, shouldn't complete to myself :/ [16:21] heh I tabcomp with 2 chars so it would have for me [16:21] but my client also completes to the last to talk for a given pattern [16:22] That's helpful. Extra points if it also includes those who have already left the channel in the candidates. [16:23] no extra points [16:23] :( [16:23] part and rejoin resets that person in the queue [16:23] (perhaps for some time (e.g. 300 seconds), with the timeout indefinitely extended when there is an outstanding highlight from that nick) [16:24] Oh, that makes it extra tricky for folk who bounce a lot. [16:24] (or netsplits) [16:24] yeah :/ [16:25] Oh, you might know: earlier apachelogger was asking about GLES drivers for i.MX53, and whether there were any available under terms that could allow them into multiverse. [16:29] no idea, but a quick look at freescales site indicates that the drivers may be difficlt [16:29] s/difficlt/difficult/ [16:29] Yeah, that was my experience from the same look. [16:30] I can never keep track of which devices you're playing with, so I figured it was worth asking :) [16:31] what is the stance on licencing for multiverse, needs to be canonical friendly, or is it maintainer of the package is responcible [16:32] Needs to be mirror-friendly. [16:32] ah [16:32] Specifically, needs to allow redistribution without cost or explicit acceptance. [16:33] that is fair enough [16:33] as for the devices I am playing with, as a general rule, mainstream android devices [16:33] It's rather relaxed. That said, be careful if you use software from there: some of it requires sending postcards to folk, some of it is non-commercial only, some can't be used in some countries, etc. [16:33] ages ago it was the iphone [16:34] Oh, just retail stuff? I thought you sometimes did development boards also. [16:34] I don't get my hands on many dev boards these days :( [16:34] Prices keep dropping (although I'll admit I much prefer retail devices) [16:35] yeah [16:35] polish of retail devices is just that bit nicer [16:35] even if I am bringing an unsupported os :p [16:35] They also stack and travel better. [16:35] looking forward to my next target [16:36] yeah that is true [16:37] What do you have planned? [16:37] transformer [16:38] That's the one that turns into a robot? [16:39] haha the one that turns into a netbook [16:39] Ah, so not http://mobilementalism.com/2007/09/04/motorola-transformer-phone/ [16:40] haha no, [16:40] that thing looks cool though [16:40] ASUS eeepad transformer [16:41] Oooh, nice. [16:41] yeah :) [16:41] should arrive soonish [16:42] Any chance that a kernel could be constructed that worked for both that and the ac100, or is too little autodetectable? [16:43] probably a bit big [16:43] big meaning incompatible with the partitioning, or just extra megabytes? [16:44] big meaning extra megabytes which arent able to be spared :( [16:44] What's the limitation there? [16:44] ogra was saying as it is the natty initramfs does not fit due to the size limitations [16:45] most android devices have a limitation of around 7-8MB [16:45] Oh, the partitioning. [16:46] We definitely need a way to safely and correctly repartition those, and apply a bootloader we can understand. [16:47] On my Dynabook, I have about 3GB wasted because of the restrictions, and having to maintain multiple kernel trees just makes it hard. [16:47] well on these tegra devices it shouldn't be that horrible [16:47] on my galaxy tab I had to tweak compression and rip things down [16:48] but if I understand what APX mode is, it should be a bootrom level recovery mechanism [16:48] opening the doors to porting uboot [16:48] Oh, excellent! [16:49] I wouldnt dare for my tab though [16:49] sbl is the lowest form of recovery === zyga is now known as zyga-food [16:53] well bedtime I think :) [16:53] Sleep well. [16:53] I'll try :) [16:53] have a good morning/day/afternoon/evening/night [17:53] janimo: any idea already why firefox takes so much time to start on arm? [17:56] which version? [17:58] cpearson: any version :-) [17:58] cpearson: janimo had a bp to try to speed it up [17:58] cpearson: the webm issue is related with thumb2 support [17:58] built firefox 5 without thumb2 and I'm able to play youtube videos with html5 + webm [17:59] reporting at bug 789198 now [17:59] Launchpad bug 789198 in firefox "Firefox crashes when attempting to play webm video OMAP4 Panda Board" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789198 [17:59] sorry, was supposed to be to chrisccoulson :-) [18:00] rsalveti, thanks. i'm sure it was somebody in here who turned on thumb2 support ;) [18:00] it wasnt :P [18:01] doko turned it on :) [18:01] have a nice day(s) - see you on friday [18:01] rsalveti, janimo has a spec to research that [18:01] (firefox startup time) [18:05] ogra: chrisccoulson: was changed by bug 696895 [18:05] Launchpad bug 696895 in xulrunner-2.0 "FTBFS on armel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696895 [18:05] janimo probably added it [18:06] thats a quite old bug id [18:06] january, hmm [18:08] not *that* old [18:08] seems to affect only libvpx [18:08] that is used when playing webm videos [18:08] probably nobody ever tested it [18:09] so libvpx needs to learn thumb2 ? [18:09] ogra: think so, but the problem is that firefox keeps it's own version of libvpx [18:09] and link it against libxul (huge link) [18:09] oh fun [18:16] chrisccoulson: will build against latest nightly and report the bug upstream [18:17] ogra: chrisccoulson: should we disable thumb2 support for now? I can create the debdiff [18:17] this will let people play youtube videos with webm support (html5) [18:17] if that doesnt cause an ftbfs again [18:17] I believe it's important as we don't have proper flash support [18:17] * ogra_ would love to use youtube on his ac100 :) [18:18] ok, will create the debdiff and fire up a build at my ppa to see if it all goes well :-) === zyga-food is now known as zyga [21:24] What is the difference between Ubuntu's 11.04 and Linaro's 11.05 ? [21:27] Linaro released a month later, since it wasn't ready in April [21:31] That's obvious, but what else is Linaro throwing into the box since they have their own release of it [21:36] !linaro [21:36] Factoid 'linaro' not found === prpplague^3 is now known as prpplague