[00:27] <jcrigby> persia: ping?
[00:40] <persia> jcrigby, Hey.
[00:41] <jcrigby> persia, I need you to send the technical board an email to ask them to tweek permissions to the packages to which the DMB has granted me upload rights
[00:41] <jcrigby> persia, or so I have been told
[00:41] <persia> That never happened?  Ugh.  Sure, I'll take care of that today.
[00:42] <jcrigby> persia, thanks!
[00:42] <persia> Really what you need is for someone with the right permissions to run the correct LP API client script.
[00:42] <persia> But yeah, my sending email will probably make that happen.
[00:43] <jcrigby> or at least with the email I can ping a TB member on IRC to remind them
[00:44] <persia> They're usually fairly good about that.
[00:44] <persia> In the meantime, if you have some packages somewhere and just need a signature, I'm happy to push them.
[01:59] <rsalveti> Daviey: jcrigby is working on pushing a new u-boot release in the following days
[01:59] <rsalveti> that should cover PXE support
[01:59] <rsalveti> at least the initial support
[02:00] <rsalveti> jcrigby: still don't have the permission to push the packages?
[02:01] <jcrigby> rsalveti, I'm hoping that that will be fixed in the morning.  If not I will ping some TB members
[02:02] <rsalveti> jcrigby: cool
[02:03] <rsalveti> jcrigby: as you're the u-boot maintainer from linaro side, are you ok releasing it at this thursday?
[02:03] <rsalveti> iirc this is the same day the kernel team is tagging their tree
[02:04] <jcrigby> rsalveti, yes I believe that is fine.  The core functionality works the USB related stuff seems to work for others but not me:)
[02:04] <rsalveti> jcrigby: we can try to do some debugging on this next week
[02:05] <jcrigby> rsalveti, sounds good.  I also sent some questions to some ti folks.  I got back a response from a third person asking for pointers to git trees which I provided.
[02:22] <persia> jcrigby, rsalveti: Will that cover https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-o-arm-uboot-tftp ?
[02:23] <persia> Or does that spec need workitems, approval, etc.?
[02:23] <rsalveti> persia: yup
[02:23] <persia> Ah, cool!
[02:23] <jcrigby> persia, at least for panda
[02:23] <rsalveti> we may end up doing a hack session to try to also get it working for xM
[02:23] <persia> jcrigby, Hrm?  Does linaro's u-boot implementation differ by board?
[02:23] <rsalveti> but don't know the current status of the usb patches for xM
[02:24] <rsalveti> persia: not tftp and pxe, but the usb and network driver
[02:24] <rsalveti> that depends on the hardware
[02:24] <persia> Aha!  So the functionality will be there, but drivers may not be there.
[02:24] <jcrigby> persia, exactly
[02:24] <persia> Could someone more knowledgeable update the spec description to indicate what is actually being implemented?
[02:25] <rsalveti> persia: yeah, that's on my plate
[02:25] <rsalveti> didn't do it yet because was busy with the unity and compiz work
[02:25] <persia> Also, is there interest from other Linaro members to get their network or USB drivers into u-boot?
[02:25] <jcrigby> persia, we may get omap3 working as well, it has usb working for storgage just not tested for networking yet
[02:26] <persia> How about mx5 or one of the others?
[02:26] <jcrigby> persia, not sure
[02:26] <persia> Heh.  That's about what I expected :)
[02:26] <rsalveti> that would be nice to check with the specific landing team
[02:27] <persia> Do you guys want to check?  Do you want to give me names, and I'll ask folk?
[02:28] <rsalveti> persia: https://wiki.linaro.org/LandingTeams
[02:28] <persia> Heh.  OK.  I'll ask folk.
[02:28] <persia> Please let me know when the spec is in shape, as I'll be pointing them there as I ask.
[02:28] <rsalveti> persia: https://wiki.linaro.org/MeetTheTeam#Member_Services
[02:29] <rsalveti> persia: just ping directly the landing team TLs
[02:29] <persia> They already have all the context?
[02:29] <rsalveti> probably not, usually they are mainly working on the kernel side
[02:30] <persia> That's what I thought :)  I'll wait until the spec is clear, so I have something real to talk about.
[02:30] <rsalveti> ok
[06:59] <dhana013> Hi hello I want ubuntu 10.04 arm926 how to make from scratch
[06:59] <dhana013> any one help me
[07:40] <dhana013>  I want ubuntu 10.04 arm926
[07:40] <dhana013> how to do it?
[07:40] <dhana013> I am trying with rootstock
[07:41] <infinity> dhana013: ARM926 is ARMv5, Ubuntu only supports ARMv7 at this point.
[07:42] <infinity> dhana013: So, you either need to be prepared to replace the toolchain and literally rebuild the entire archive (ouch), use an older release that supported ARMv5, or perhaps use Debian?
[07:49] <dhana013> thanks for u r information
[09:46] <Daviey> rsalveti: super, thanks
[11:21] <Spider-Pork> morning
[11:22] <Spider-Pork> i am using ubuntu 11.04 headless on my pandaboard. I need a console on monitor+mouse+keyboard instead of 115200 serial. Any help?
[11:23] <Spider-Pork> Need i to modify boot script?
[11:23] <ogra_> it will fire up tty logins after the configuration is done
[11:24] <ogra_> so if you can do your configuration on serial it should already do what you want after that
[11:25] <Spider-Pork> i would to have console on my dvi-d external monitor instead serial terminal
[11:25] <ogra_> if you actually *need* oem-config on a framebuffer you indeed need to modify the cmdline a bit
[11:25] <Spider-Pork> ok, you mean the cmd line at the boot prompt?
[11:26] <ogra_> but beyond that, only the first boot config actually requires serial in the default configuration
[11:26] <ogra_> i mean you need to edits boot.scr of the virgin, unbooted image
[11:26] <ogra_> *edit
[11:27] <Spider-Pork> ok
[11:27] <Spider-Pork> is there a guide to help this edit?
[11:27] <ogra_> somewhere in the ubuntu wiki i think
[11:27] <Spider-Pork> ok, thank you ogra_
[11:28] <ogra_> look at the subpages of /ARM/OMAP on wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:28] <ogra_> but if i were you i would just go with the default, do the first boot config on serial and then use the monitor
[11:30] <Spider-Pork> sorry but i am just noob about these stuff. How can i use monitor after first boot?
[11:30] <ogra_> there will be a login prompt on your screen, you just log in
[11:30] <Spider-Pork> ehm, no there isn't
[11:31] <ogra_> you already created the user and set the timezone etc ?
[11:31] <Spider-Pork> yep the machine is running
[11:32] <ogra_> did you reboot since ?
[11:32] <Spider-Pork> yep
[11:32] <ogra_> with the monitor plugged in ?
[11:32] <Spider-Pork> and i see the boot menu on serial console
[11:32] <Spider-Pork> yep
[11:32] <ogra_> boot menu ?
[11:32] <Spider-Pork> hit any key to stop auto-boot
[11:32] <Spider-Pork> 3 2 1...
[11:32] <ogra_> ah
[11:33] <ogra_> so it boots to a login prompt on the serial console ?
[11:33] <Spider-Pork> yep
[11:33] <Spider-Pork> i see che serial config inside boot.script
[11:34] <ogra_> ps ax|grep getty
[11:34] <ogra_> do you see getty's running on the differnt tty's ?
[11:34] <ogra_> it should list tty1 to 6
[11:35] <Spider-Pork> ogra_: http://ideone.com/n7GoA
[11:35] <ogra_> so there are login prompts running on your ttys
[11:36] <ogra_> are you sure your monitor is connected correctly ?
[11:36] <Spider-Pork> i think yes
[11:37] <Spider-Pork> the monitor has dvi-d interface
[11:37] <ogra_> well, there should be no reason that you dont see a login prompt on your screen
[11:38] <Spider-Pork> so i'm using a dvi-d/hdmi A cable
[11:38] <ogra_> and you connected to which socket ?
[11:38] <Spider-Pork> the external one
[11:38] <ogra_> on the panda, to which graphics port did you connect ?
[11:38] <Spider-Pork> the external port
[11:38] <Spider-Pork> there are two ports
[11:38] <Spider-Pork> one near ethernet cable
[11:38] <ogra_> there is a hdmi and a dvi one
[11:38] <Spider-Pork> and one external
[11:39] <ogra_> they are labeled
[11:39] <Spider-Pork> dvi one
[11:39] <ogra_> did you try the other one ?
[11:39] <Spider-Pork> nope because the label says: DVI-D and i'm using a DVI-D cable
[11:39] <Spider-Pork> i try
[11:40] <Spider-Pork> now is working
[11:41] <ogra_> :)
[11:41] <Spider-Pork> thank you ogra_
[11:41] <Spider-Pork> why?
[11:41] <Spider-Pork> i followed the tag on the board
[11:42] <Spider-Pork> nice thank you ogra_
[11:43] <Spider-Pork> i saw inside boot script that the ram is limited to 512M
[11:43] <Spider-Pork> why?
[11:43] <ogra_> it isnt
[11:43] <ogra_> check with free
[11:43] <ogra_> there is a reserved memory area for the dicati engine
[11:43] <ogra_> *ducati
[11:44] <Spider-Pork> ah ok
[11:44] <Spider-Pork> and ducati engine is?
[11:44] <ogra_> starting at 512m
[11:44] <ogra_> ducati does all the multimedia processing
[11:44] <Spider-Pork> ah cool
[11:44] <Spider-Pork> thank you
[11:59] <ppisati> i like the ducati monster carbon black
[11:59]  * ppisati hides...
[11:59] <ppisati> :)
[12:00] <ogra_> the one that MacSlow has ?
[12:00] <ppisati> who?
[12:00] <ogra_> MacSlow from the DX team
[12:00] <ogra_> i think he drives one
[12:00] <ppisati> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ducati_Monster_620_Dark.jpg
[12:01] <ogra_> i think thats the one, not 100% sure
[12:01] <ppisati> cool, i like it :)
[12:02] <ppisati> ogra_: btw, any updates on the ac100 image?
[12:03] <ppisati> ogra_: shall i bring mine to dublin? so you can see where the installatin fails?
[12:03] <ogra_> just rolling a new kernel package
[12:03] <ogra_> yes pleas
[12:03] <ogra_> e
[12:03] <ppisati> ok
[12:03] <ogra_> what model was that ?
[12:03] <ogra_> 10Z ?
[12:03] <ppisati> wai
[12:03] <ppisati> t
[12:03] <ppisati> yep
[12:04] <ogra_> sigh
[12:04] <ppisati> uat?
[12:04] <ogra_> ok, so its definitely a prob with that model
[12:04] <ppisati> ouch
[12:04] <ogra_> tobin has the same
[12:04] <ppisati> and it fails in the same way
[12:04] <ogra_> but he got a 10U now which works fine
[12:05] <ppisati> plymouth fails and lalala
[12:05] <ogra_> that we will see in dublin ;)
[12:05] <ogra_> the plymouth messages are just cosmetic
[12:05] <ogra_> you can ignore them
[12:05] <ogra_> thats not the cause of the issue
[12:05] <ppisati> ok
[12:05] <ogra_> apparently the unpacked tarball is corrupt
[12:06] <ppisati> ouch
[12:06] <ogra_> so your rootfs isnt completely there
[12:06] <ppisati> did you roll a new rootfs too?
[12:06] <ogra_> that seems to only happen on that one model which is really weird
[12:06] <ogra_> i will
[12:06] <ppisati> ok
[12:06] <ogra_> first the kernel needs to be up to date ... that takes a day
[12:07] <ogra_> but i plan to have a newer natty image in place before the sprint and hopefully also a headles spin
[12:08] <ppisati>  cool
[12:08] <ppisati> a headless would be awesome
[12:09] <ppisati> as a side note, there's a fix for the usb thing on omap
[12:09] <ogra_> yup, i hear you
[12:09] <ogra_> i thought that didnt work ?
[12:09] <ppisati> there's a new one :)
[12:09] <ppisati> actually 2 patches
[12:09] <ppisati> but anyway
[12:09] <ppisati> testing right now
[12:09] <ppisati> works on omap4
[12:10] <ppisati> trying omap3 now
[12:11] <ppisati> and while it compiles, i think i'll grab some food
[12:40] <ppisati> and now it breaks in new and unexpected ways... ohhhh...
[12:43] <ogra_> joy !
[12:54] <lugu> Hi! I am trying to port Ubuntu to an HTC device, but the audio driver neither support ALSA not OSS...
[12:55] <lugu> it use a specific device /dev/msm_pcm_out ...
[12:56] <lugu> do other ARM devices have exotic sound support?
[12:58] <hrw> which htc device?
[14:15] <brendand_> what does the pandaboard do with the led's if there's been a kernel panic?
[14:16] <brendand_> heh, it's back now. everything froze for a while
[14:33] <lilstevie> lugu: some do some don't depends on the Audio codec
[14:33] <lilstevie> lugu: just out of interest what device
[14:47] <dhana013> How to port ubuntu 9.10 for ARM926
[14:51] <lilstevie> dhana013: that is a lot of work
[14:52] <lilstevie> ARM926 is armv5 afaik
[14:52] <lilstevie> which means compiling every last thing
[14:53] <dhana013> I have tried with rootstock not working
[14:53] <lilstevie> rootstock doesnt compile everything
[14:53] <lilstevie> you need to get teh source for everything and compile
[14:54] <dhana013> give any link
[14:55] <lilstevie> not offhand
[14:55] <lilstevie> personally I would just use debian
[14:55] <lilstevie> it is a lot of work
[16:16] <peteiow> Hello is there a chat room for new users please?
[16:17] <persia> persia, Depending on your question, here may be fine.
[16:17]  * persia fails tab completion
[16:19] <lilstevie> persia: hehe I hate it when that happens,
[16:20] <persia> "peteiow" < "persia", but apparently my client was processing the /part just at the moment I pressed <tab>, but before having printed it :)
[16:20] <persia> Err, no, I'm completely wrong.  Still, shouldn't complete to myself :/
[16:21] <lilstevie> heh I tabcomp with 2 chars so it would have for me
[16:21] <lilstevie> but my client also completes to the last to talk for a given pattern
[16:22] <persia> That's helpful.  Extra points if it also includes those who have already left the channel in the candidates.
[16:23] <lilstevie> no extra points
[16:23] <lilstevie> :(
[16:23] <lilstevie> part and rejoin resets that person in the queue
[16:23] <persia> (perhaps for some time (e.g. 300 seconds), with the timeout indefinitely extended when there is an outstanding highlight from that nick)
[16:24] <persia> Oh, that makes it extra tricky for folk who bounce a lot.
[16:24] <persia> (or netsplits)
[16:24] <lilstevie> yeah :/
[16:25] <persia> Oh, you might know: earlier apachelogger was asking about GLES drivers for i.MX53, and whether there were any available under terms that could allow them into multiverse.
[16:29] <lilstevie> no idea, but a quick look at freescales site indicates that the drivers may be difficlt
[16:29] <lilstevie> s/difficlt/difficult/
[16:29] <persia> Yeah, that was my experience from the same look.
[16:30] <persia> I can never keep track of which devices you're playing with, so I figured it was worth asking :)
[16:31] <lilstevie> what is the stance on licencing for multiverse, needs to be canonical friendly, or is it maintainer of the package is responcible
[16:32] <persia> Needs to be mirror-friendly.
[16:32] <lilstevie> ah
[16:32] <persia> Specifically, needs to allow redistribution without cost or explicit acceptance.
[16:33] <lilstevie> that is fair enough
[16:33] <lilstevie> as for the devices I am playing with, as a general rule, mainstream android devices
[16:33] <persia> It's rather relaxed.  That said, be careful if you use software from there: some of it requires sending postcards to folk, some of it is non-commercial only, some can't be used in some countries, etc.
[16:33] <lilstevie> ages ago it was the iphone
[16:34] <persia> Oh, just retail stuff?  I thought you sometimes did development boards also.
[16:34] <lilstevie> I don't get my hands on many dev boards these days :(
[16:34] <persia> Prices keep dropping (although I'll admit I much prefer retail devices)
[16:35] <lilstevie> yeah
[16:35] <lilstevie> polish of retail devices is just that bit nicer
[16:35] <lilstevie> even if I am bringing an unsupported os :p
[16:35] <persia> They also stack and travel better.
[16:35] <lilstevie> looking forward to my next target
[16:36] <lilstevie> yeah that is true
[16:37] <persia> What do you have planned?
[16:37] <lilstevie> transformer
[16:38] <persia> That's the one that turns into a robot?
[16:39] <lilstevie> haha the one that turns into a netbook
[16:39] <persia> Ah, so not http://mobilementalism.com/2007/09/04/motorola-transformer-phone/
[16:40] <lilstevie> haha no,
[16:40] <lilstevie> that thing looks cool though
[16:40] <lilstevie> ASUS eeepad transformer
[16:41] <persia> Oooh, nice.
[16:41] <lilstevie> yeah :)
[16:41] <lilstevie> should arrive soonish
[16:42] <persia> Any chance that a kernel could be constructed that worked for both that and the ac100, or is too little autodetectable?
[16:43] <lilstevie> probably a bit big
[16:43] <persia> big meaning incompatible with the partitioning, or just extra megabytes?
[16:44] <lilstevie> big meaning extra megabytes which arent able to be spared :(
[16:44] <persia> What's the limitation there?
[16:44] <lilstevie> ogra was saying as it is the natty initramfs does not fit due to the size limitations
[16:45] <lilstevie> most android devices have a limitation of around 7-8MB
[16:45] <persia> Oh, the partitioning.
[16:46] <persia> We definitely need a way to safely and correctly repartition those, and apply a bootloader we can understand.
[16:47] <persia> On my Dynabook, I have about 3GB wasted because of the restrictions, and having to maintain multiple kernel trees just makes it hard.
[16:47] <lilstevie> well on these tegra devices it shouldn't be that horrible
[16:47] <lilstevie> on my galaxy tab I had to tweak compression and rip things down
[16:48] <lilstevie> but if I understand what APX mode is, it should be a bootrom level recovery mechanism
[16:48] <lilstevie> opening the doors to porting uboot
[16:48] <persia> Oh, excellent!
[16:49] <lilstevie> I wouldnt dare for my tab though
[16:49] <lilstevie> sbl is the lowest form of recovery
[16:53] <lilstevie> well bedtime I think :)
[16:53] <persia> Sleep well.
[16:53] <lilstevie> I'll try :)
[16:53] <lilstevie> have a good morning/day/afternoon/evening/night
[17:53] <rsalveti> janimo: any idea already why firefox takes so much time to start on arm?
[17:56] <cpearson> which version?
[17:58] <rsalveti> cpearson: any version :-)
[17:58] <rsalveti> cpearson: janimo had a bp to try to speed it up
[17:58] <rsalveti> cpearson: the webm issue is related with thumb2 support
[17:58] <rsalveti> built firefox 5 without thumb2 and I'm able to play youtube videos with html5 + webm
[17:59] <rsalveti> reporting at bug 789198 now
[17:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 789198 in firefox "Firefox crashes when attempting to play webm video OMAP4 Panda Board" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789198
[17:59] <rsalveti> sorry, was supposed to be to chrisccoulson :-)
[18:00] <chrisccoulson> rsalveti, thanks. i'm sure it was somebody in here who turned on thumb2 support ;)
[18:00] <ogra_> it wasnt :P
[18:01] <ogra_> doko turned it on :)
[18:01] <hrw> have a nice day(s) - see you on friday
[18:01] <ogra_> rsalveti, janimo has a spec to research that
[18:01] <ogra_> (firefox startup time)
[18:05] <rsalveti> ogra: chrisccoulson: was changed by bug 696895
[18:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696895 in xulrunner-2.0 "FTBFS on armel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696895
[18:05] <rsalveti> janimo probably added it
[18:06] <ogra_> thats a quite old bug id
[18:06] <ogra_> january, hmm
[18:08] <rsalveti> not *that* old
[18:08] <rsalveti> seems to affect only libvpx
[18:08] <rsalveti> that is used when playing webm videos
[18:08] <rsalveti> probably nobody ever tested it
[18:09] <ogra_> so libvpx needs to learn thumb2 ?
[18:09] <rsalveti> ogra: think so, but the problem is that firefox keeps it's own version of libvpx
[18:09] <rsalveti> and link it against libxul (huge link)
[18:09] <ogra_> oh fun
[18:16] <rsalveti> chrisccoulson: will build against latest nightly and report the bug upstream
[18:17] <rsalveti> ogra: chrisccoulson: should we disable thumb2 support for now? I can create the debdiff
[18:17] <rsalveti> this will let people play youtube videos with webm support (html5)
[18:17] <ogra_> if that doesnt cause an ftbfs again
[18:17] <rsalveti> I believe it's important as we don't have proper flash support
[18:17]  * ogra_ would love to use youtube on his ac100 :)
[18:18] <rsalveti> ok, will create the debdiff and fire up a build at my ppa to see if it all goes well :-)
[21:24] <sveinse> What is the difference between Ubuntu's 11.04 and Linaro's 11.05 ?
[21:27] <charlie-tca> Linaro released a month later, since it wasn't ready in April
[21:31] <sveinse> That's obvious, but what else is Linaro throwing into the box since they have their own release of it
[21:36] <charlie-tca> !linaro
[21:36] <ubot2> Factoid 'linaro' not found