| jasoncwarner_ | TheMuso bryceh RAOF robert_ancell (who is on holiday) Meeting time https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-06-21 | 00:00 |
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| TheMuso | Morning. | 00:00 |
| jasoncwarner_ | morning TheMuso , how is the ashcloud over SYD this morning? | 00:01 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: Still there according to the news, but they reckon flights will be happening again by this afternoon. | 00:02 |
| TheMuso | I am not going to be really concerned till Friday, and only if ash is still an issue in the media. | 00:02 |
| jasoncwarner_ | TheMuso: sounds like a plan... | 00:03 |
| jasoncwarner_ | ok, let's get started and when bryceh and RAOF join we can get to X | 00:03 |
| jasoncwarner_ | TheMuso: could you catch me up on what is happening with ubiquity bp? | 00:03 |
| jasoncwarner_ | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-accessibility-ubiquity | 00:03 |
| jasoncwarner_ | looks like you have quite a few WIs on there for A2 | 00:04 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: Still talking to design about UI matters with regards to how we present the availability of accessibility profiles. | 00:04 |
| TheMuso | Once thats settled, coding will begin in urnist, and shouldn't take that long. | 00:04 |
| TheMuso | Hense the INPROGRESS with some of the WIs on that blueprint. | 00:04 |
| jasoncwarner_ | we need to give deadline to design on that...we can't be going into A3 still "designing". Who is the person you are working with in design? | 00:05 |
| TheMuso | Christian Giordano, however we are still firing emails back and forth, as a few clarrifications need to be made from my end, I am not always the best explainer. :) | 00:06 |
| TheMuso | So I will continue that today with an email, and I hope to get it sorted by EOW. | 00:06 |
| jasoncwarner_ | TheMuso, ok...could you please make it a hard goal to get it sorted by EOW? We need the 2 weeks before A2 to get it all done! | 00:08 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thanks | 00:08 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: Re RAOF, I think he may have recently been traveling, at least according to a tweat I received from him last night. | 00:08 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF tweets? | 00:09 |
| jasoncwarner_ | :) | 00:09 |
| bryceh | ah sorry I'm here | 00:09 |
| jasoncwarner_ | ah, bryceh ! | 00:09 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: Will do, I need to look over those WIs and see if something needs to be pushed back to Alpha 3. | 00:09 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: Yes he does. | 00:09 |
| jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: [TOPIC] X.update... | 00:09 |
| bryceh | xdiagnose got in this week :-) | 00:10 |
| bryceh | so that means xfailsafe and the apport hooks are moved to their new home | 00:10 |
| bryceh | also, been doing lots of hardware testing and upgrading | 00:10 |
| LLStarks | bryceh, is xfailsafe behavior the same? | 00:11 |
| bryceh | been pushing in patches incl. sru's for natty as well. There's a couple items I want to chat with RAOF about this meeting when he shows up | 00:11 |
| bryceh | LLStarks, for now it is | 00:11 |
| LLStarks | okay | 00:11 |
| bryceh | LLStarks, going forward plan is to enhance it to be more suitable for the types of problems people have these days, e.g. black screen on boot bugs and so on | 00:11 |
| bryceh | mesa 7.10.3 got in, and there's new xorg and -nvidia | 00:12 |
| bryceh | aside from that, still fielding a lot of questions with X issues on natty | 00:12 |
| jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: new nvidia? awesome...I'll update..I wasn't able to use unity last couple days b/c of x/mesa nvidia issues | 00:13 |
| jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: anything else? | 00:14 |
| bryceh | I think with linux 3.0 hitting, that may affect nvidia a bit, but not sure | 00:14 |
| jasoncwarner_ | everyone, how are your A2 WIs coming? anything blocked that I need to track down? | 00:14 |
| bryceh | jasoncwarner_, nothing else for X. Been doing some LP stuff but nothing worth discussion here. | 00:14 |
| bryceh | doesn't appear that I have any A2 items | 00:15 |
| jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: ok... | 00:16 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: As above. | 00:16 |
| jasoncwarner_ | alright everyone, TheMuso try to get design of ubiquity sorted and we'll go from there. | 00:16 |
| jasoncwarner_ | see you all in dublin! | 00:16 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: Will do. | 00:17 |
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| TheMuso | Yay for hybrid isos. | 00:41 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:47 |
| TheMuso | Morning pitti. | 06:14 |
| pitti | RAOF: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-rootless-x something you actually want for oneriric, or should we postpone this again? (I'd be happy with postponing) | 06:14 |
| pitti | hey TheMuso, how are you? | 06:14 |
| pitti | TheMuso: wrt. your discussions with Christian, perhaps scheduling a mumble meeting would be faster? lots more bandwidth, and faster turnaround for explanations | 06:15 |
| TheMuso | pitti: I'll see what he comes back with, and if we are not getting any further, I will attempt to rangle with mumble, given that its QT and all. | 06:27 |
| pitti | TheMuso: or classical phone, if mumble doesn't work for you :) | 06:28 |
| TheMuso | Yeah thats an option. | 06:28 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:21 |
| pitti | hey didrocks | 07:28 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti :) | 07:28 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: hey | 07:58 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: so, we have an accessible Qt in the ubuntu-desktop ppa | 07:58 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: just upgrade from, install qt-at-spi as well, and then, to launch apps with accessibility enabled: QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1 <app> | 07:58 |
| didrocks | accerciser and Orca are quite happy with this there :) | 07:59 |
| TheMuso | didrocks: Cool! Will try out tomorrow, I am aware of the environment variable. | 08:04 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: from my experience, it's still a little crashy, but not as much as it was :-) | 08:04 |
| didrocks | (only with the variable enabled) | 08:04 |
| TheMuso | Cool. | 08:04 |
| TheMuso | Yup. | 08:04 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: do not hesitate to confirm/infirm | 08:04 |
| TheMuso | ok | 08:05 |
| didrocks | I'll try push to oneiric tomorrow | 08:05 |
| TheMuso | No hurry. | 08:05 |
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| seb128 | hey desktopers | 08:24 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey, wie gehts? | 08:25 |
| pitti | seb128: gut, danke! | 08:25 |
| didrocks | salut seb128! | 08:34 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:35 |
| seb128 | how was your IRC presentation yesterday? | 08:35 |
| didrocks | was nice, a lot of question, got dead hands typing restless for a full hour and half :) | 08:36 |
| jasoncwarner_ | morning everyone... | 09:06 |
| pitti | hey jasoncwarner_, how are you? | 09:06 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey pitti, pretty good, thanks. you? getting ready for summit? | 09:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | pitti: also, assuming you guys found like 50mb of cd space since earlier this week...so, no point in talking about that ;) | 09:07 |
| didrocks | hey jasoncwarner_ | 09:07 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: I'm half-done with preping my "efficient bug handling" talk for the DX team, otherwise not much prep done yet | 09:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | didrocks: ! | 09:07 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: no, only 12 :) | 09:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | pitti: well, 12 is nothing to sneeze at...now if we could remove german from the cd ;) | 09:08 |
| jasoncwarner_ | pitti: how is localization bp? you feel good about showing that off next week? | 09:08 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: we can't, as it's not on the CD any more .. | 09:08 |
| pitti | not on amd64, anyway | 09:08 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: yup, I have enough of it working to demonstrate it | 09:08 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: source package is in NEW (archive admin HINT HINT) | 09:09 |
| jasoncwarner_ | dang it...I don't know who I can mess with about languages on CD anymore...perhaps rodrigo__ and spanish | 09:09 |
| jasoncwarner_ | or maybe robert/raof/bryce etc and english (though I think that might be really problematic ;) ) | 09:09 |
| didrocks | pitti: hint taken! looking :) | 09:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: j/k really -- it's not really that urgent | 09:09 |
| seb128 | hey jasoncwarner_ | 09:09 |
| didrocks | pitti: tomorrow, you will have my qt-at-spi package to review then :-) | 09:09 |
| pitti | you can run the stuff from bzr | 09:09 |
| pitti | erk, I knew it comes with strings attached! | 09:10 |
| * pitti hugs didrocks | 09:10 | |
| pitti | didrocks: sure, will do | 09:10 |
| * didrocks hugs pitti back | 09:10 | |
| seb128 | pitti, we dropped .es from the CD? | 09:10 |
| pitti | no, not yet | 09:10 |
| pitti | I didn't drop any language since natty yet | 09:10 |
| didrocks | pitti: and as soon as agateau got some upstream ack, sni-qt as well :-) I think you will loose in number of NEW packages ;) | 09:10 |
| pitti | didrocks: also, in size; ubuntu-defaults-builder is tiny | 09:10 |
| didrocks | I can imagine :-) | 09:11 |
| didrocks | pitti: sounds good apart that perl hurts my eyes ;) | 09:19 |
| pitti | *shrug* debhelper.. | 09:19 |
| pitti | but I tried to keep it clean, I even used strict | 09:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: just a small hickupp: everywhere you set the licence to GPLv3, but in the man of dh_ubuntu_defaults, you tell: licensed under the GNU GPL v2 or later. | 09:19 |
| didrocks | which is compatible of course, just weird ;) | 09:19 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh, c&p error | 09:21 |
| pitti | didrocks: it doesn't even build the manpage yet, as it's still a stub | 09:21 |
| pitti | didrocks: fixed in bzr, nice catch! | 09:21 |
| didrocks | pitti: right, but nothing blocking anyway, just fix it in the next upload | 09:21 |
| pitti | r27 | 09:22 |
| pitti | the remaining features, manpages, etc. will come in 0.2 | 09:22 |
| didrocks | ok, looks good, do you want to do another upload or it will be for later? | 09:23 |
| pitti | didrocks: 0.1 is good for testing; I don't plan to upload 0.2 today yet | 09:24 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, ack then :) | 09:24 |
| pitti | cheers! | 09:24 |
| didrocks | pitti: I hope that unity-2d will use soon the gsettings key so that you don't have to do this postinst hack (the one which were in the -settings package at some point) | 09:25 |
| pitti | didrocks: unity 3d and 2d using the very same gsettings key would indeed be appreciated | 09:25 |
| didrocks | I didn't test, but from the code, it seems that local (absolute path) desktop key works as well, which will be interesting for loco team for isntance | 09:26 |
| didrocks | instance* | 09:26 |
| didrocks | btw, tell me when you need loco testing, I'll do it this cycle for the french respin and report what's working and what's not (0.2?) | 09:27 |
| didrocks | or rather, if I was puzzled in trying to use something :) | 09:27 |
| pitti | didrocks: 0.1 works with ffox bookmarks, startpage, unity (2d) launchers, RB radio stations (banshee needs a patch), extra packages, and background images | 09:29 |
| pitti | didrocks: so if you want to test these, go ahead | 09:29 |
| pitti | didrocks: I also provided a script to build an "enable all example" ubuntu-defaults-test package, FYI | 09:29 |
| pitti | just run /usr/share/doc/ubuntu-defaults-builder/examples/make-example in /tmp/ | 09:30 |
| pitti | didrocks: but for manual creation, run ubuntu-defaults-template ubuntu-defaults-french | 09:30 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'll try to toy with it tomorrow or Friday to give you feedbacks at the sprint then! Thanks for the links :) | 09:31 |
| pitti | didrocks: we can also do that together on the sprint; I hope I can get banshee working this or next week | 09:31 |
| pitti | the code doesn't look too complicated, but I still need to get used to C# a bit | 09:32 |
| * didrocks will set njpatel as the wallpaper background with an "awesomeness" shiny text light in the French respin :) | 09:32 | |
| alex3f | mvo: morning, you around? | 09:32 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh code, let's plan on that then ;) | 09:32 |
| pitti | bah, and it promptly FTBFSed | 09:32 |
| didrocks | yeah, was working there, didn't try in a pbuilder | 09:32 |
| alex3f | do you know why import crashes like this: http://pastebin.com/thPAXBgb, when importing gtk *before* gio.repository? | 09:33 |
| pitti | test/run -v | 09:33 |
| pitti | make[1]: test/run: Command not found | 09:33 |
| pitti | er, what? | 09:33 |
| didrocks | interesting :) | 09:33 |
| njpatel | didrocks, :D | 09:34 |
| pitti | alex3f: does packagekit import any GTK bits by any chance? | 09:34 |
| njpatel | so, er, daily cd is not working great on intel | 09:34 |
| njpatel | it just hangs at the "welcome" screen in the installer | 09:34 |
| alex3f | pitti: posible | 09:35 |
| pitti | alex3f: you can't mix GIR GTK bindings with static gtk binding | 09:35 |
| alex3f | the introspection data is pretty new, I guess it mixes packagekit with packagekit-gnome | 09:35 |
| pitti | alex3f: also, you need to use the same GTK as packagekit | 09:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, could you look at the amd64 retracer when you have a minute please? | 09:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, it errors out on " os.unlink('/var/lib/dpkg/info/%s:%s.%s' % (c.name, self.get_system_architecture(), script))" with "self" not being defined | 09:35 |
| pitti | alex3f: so perhaps try with "from gi import Gtk" instead, to use the GI bindings | 09:35 |
| seb128 | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apport/packaging_impl.py", line 793, in fetch_unpack | 09:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, not sure if that's an apport multiarch issue or what? | 09:35 |
| alex3f | pitti: thank you | 09:35 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, dang; will fix | 09:36 |
| alex3f | the problem is that I'm trying to integrate it with software-center | 09:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 09:36 |
| alex3f | where there is a lot of gtk | 09:36 |
| pitti | alex3f: ah, this is currently being ported to GTK3/GI as well | 09:36 |
| pitti | but right, tricky right now | 09:36 |
| alex3f | I guess a right thing to do in the meantime is try to separate the gnome/gtk bits from packagekitglib | 09:37 |
| pitti | alex3f: do you need PK? you might also use aptdaemon or python-apt? | 09:37 |
| pitti | alex3f: (note that we don't install PK by default, as it doesn't work very well in Ubuntu) | 09:38 |
| alex3f | pitti: ahh, i need it, this is my project :) | 09:38 |
| pitti | very well == not good enough to be the default package installer | 09:38 |
| alex3f | http://swarm.cs.pub.ro/~alexef/gsoc/proposal.html | 09:38 |
| pitti | alex3f: ok; then I guess avoiding any GTK bits of PK will probably be the best solution right now, if possible | 09:38 |
| pitti | seb128: fixed in 1.21.1-0ubuntu2, just uploaded | 09:42 |
| pitti | sorry about that | 09:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, \o/ | 09:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 09:42 |
| pitti | so, now back to this weird defaults-builder FTBFS | 09:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, I guess I need to update apport in the chroots right? | 09:43 |
| pitti | seb128: right; easiest to just wait 80 minutes and run apport-chroot upgrade | 09:43 |
| seb128 | I will be lazy, wait on the publisher and do an apport-chroot upgrade | 09:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, great mind ;-) | 09:43 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 09:44 | |
| * pitti ^5s seb128 | 09:44 | |
| seb128 | rodrigo__, hey | 09:44 |
| pitti | didrocks: ah, silly me | 09:44 |
| pitti | $ head test/run | 09:45 |
| pitti | #!/usr/bin/python3 | 09:45 |
| pitti | I want to be on the edge! | 09:45 |
| * pitti adds b-dep | 09:45 | |
| didrocks | pitti: stop being that on the edge :-) | 09:45 |
| didrocks | the error was quite misleading though | 09:45 |
| seb128 | oh, versions has quite some dx red lines | 09:47 |
| seb128 | nice to see indicators and unity tarballs ;-) | 09:47 |
| didrocks | well, next step will be to have working tarballs ;) | 09:48 |
| didrocks | your version page doesn't catch that? :p | 09:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no, but patches are welcome! ;-) | 09:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, did you figure the libunity-misc build issue? do you need help on it? | 09:49 |
| * didrocks starts to think about pushing all version.py new detection in a pbuilder directly build on seb128's machine :-) | 09:49 | |
| seb128 | lol | 09:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's working in a pbuilder for libunity-misc, so yeah, timestamp issue | 09:49 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:50 |
| didrocks | I just don't push as if we can't push nux/unity, it will create some NBS | 09:50 |
| seb128 | is there anything blocking that upload? (just curious) | 09:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, NBS are fine | 09:52 |
| seb128 | didrocks, we have a ton of those for i.e libpanel-applet-2 | 09:52 |
| seb128 | old e-d-s | 09:52 |
| seb128 | etc | 09:52 |
| didrocks | ok, let's push it now then | 09:52 |
| didrocks | just not tested as can't build new unity for now | 09:52 |
| seb128 | they need to be sorted during the cycle | 09:52 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well at least we can see if it builds fine, get it published etc so it's ready and out of your queue | 09:53 |
| didrocks | ok, let's go for it then, it's just a dput away :) | 09:53 |
| rodrigo__ | hey seb128 | 09:54 |
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| seb128 | rodrigo_, how are you? | 09:56 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I'm running the http_proxy grep on main btw, so I will let you know what's coming from it when it's done | 09:58 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok, cool | 09:59 |
| seb128 | didrocks, cleaned libunity-misc from the pad gtk2 list ;-) | 10:03 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 10:03 |
| rodrigo_ | I am going to upload, after some more testing, g-s-d 3.1.2, for the NTP stuff, so anything against it? | 10:20 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: this doesn't depend on anything else from GNOME 3.1.x? | 10:27 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, gnome-desktop and gsettings-desktop-schemas at least | 10:28 |
| rodrigo_ | have been testing the jhbuilt version, so not sure yet about the versions needed | 10:28 |
| rodrigo_ | will find out in a bit, starting to package it now | 10:28 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, what about gpm and gcm? | 10:28 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, is the color stuff optional? | 10:29 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, does that version conflicts or deprecated gpm or not? | 10:29 |
| rodrigo_ | it uses colord | 10:29 |
| seb128 | optional? | 10:29 |
| seb128 | because that's not packaged yet, so it would need to be packaged and promoted before you do the update | 10:30 |
| rodrigo_ | no, not optional, but we can make it so | 10:30 |
| seb128 | ok you should probably | 10:30 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, what about gpm? | 10:30 |
| rodrigo_ | about g-p-m. I really thought it was deprecated, but hughes released 3.1.x versions, so will find out | 10:30 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you want me to do the gnome-desktop3 updat? | 10:30 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, I'll do it | 10:30 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yes or you will do it? those are different replies ;-) | 10:31 |
| seb128 | i.e do you want me to do it and gsettings-d-s | 10:31 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, sorry, misread :) | 10:31 |
| seb128 | to spare you some time, i.e split work | 10:31 |
| rodrigo_ | so the answer is: I'll do it, so don't worry :) | 10:31 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:31 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:31 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, gpm I think still has the stats ui and some bits | 10:32 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, but the service code moved to gsd | 10:32 |
| rodrigo_ | yes | 10:32 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, it means you will need to update gpm together I guess to avoid conflicting services | 10:32 |
| seb128 | or they will both try to manage the same thing | 10:32 |
| rodrigo_ | right | 10:32 |
| seb128 | we will loose the indcator on the way | 10:32 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, why? | 10:33 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, because they dropped the gtkstatusicon | 10:34 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, ok | 10:34 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, but that's ok, dx is working on a proper power indicator | 10:34 |
| seb128 | we can do without the icon for some weeks | 10:34 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, I'll prepare any packages I need locally before doing any upload | 10:35 |
| rodrigo_ | and upload all at the same time when all is ok | 10:35 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, use the gnome3 ppa maybe | 10:35 |
| rodrigo_ | yes | 10:35 |
| seb128 | so you can ask other to test as well | 10:35 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630731/ | 10:43 |
| mpt | mvo, good morning! I'm making a list of things in USC that could be implemented if we had debtags. I have (1) better categories, (2) maturity ratings, (3) system requirements for packages. Can you think of any others? | 10:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, no desktop-o-gtk3-gnome3 ? | 10:47 |
| pitti | seb128: -ECONTEXT :) (in meeting with jasoncwarner_, will brief you later) | 10:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh ok, I though that was a list of the team specs for the cycle | 10:48 |
| pitti | seb128: it's the list of things which we could potentially drop if needed | 10:48 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:48 |
| mvo | mpt: not from the top of my head, I think that is the immediate list | 10:51 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 10:55 |
| chrisccoulson | well, only just ;) | 10:55 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 10:57 |
| chrisccoulson | hey pitti, how are you? | 10:57 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I'm great, thanks! how are you? | 11:00 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - quite tired, i had a late night last night. but otherwise, good thanks | 11:01 |
| rodrigo_ | hi chrisccoulson | 11:01 |
| chrisccoulson | hi rodrigo_ | 11:02 |
| mpt | ok, thanks mvo | 11:11 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, in the last couple of reboots I've done, gnome-shell and classic sessions complain about a window manager already running on the display | 11:11 |
| rodrigo_ | unity seems to work ok, so not sure what's up | 11:11 |
| rodrigo_ | and there was, at least last time (didn't check now) a metacity process for the gdm user | 11:12 |
| rodrigo_ | so seems gdm is again not killing all its processes | 11:13 |
| pitti | didrocks, seb128: FYI, libunity-misc binNEWed | 11:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 11:18 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson "morning?"! it's middday, did you work all the night again? ;-) | 11:18 |
| pitti | speaking about which, I'm off for lunch and some errands | 11:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks :) | 11:19 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 11:19 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it was a late one last night | 11:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, enjoy!, hum, food, should do that soon as well | 11:21 |
| * micahg can empathize with a late night... | 11:36 | |
| didrocks | seb128: did you use merge-upstream or just merge for latest unity release? | 11:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks, urg, I might have just merged :-( | 11:54 |
| seb128 | sorry about that, do you want me to fix it? | 11:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: no worry, I think it's fine, I just add to manually add a tag | 11:54 |
| seb128 | ok, sorry again | 11:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's not like autotools where you need additional files to build :) | 11:55 |
| seb128 | I didn't do a merge-upstream upload for a while | 11:55 |
| seb128 | lol | 11:55 |
| didrocks | seb128: no worry, just to confirm why the tag wasn't there ;) | 11:55 |
| didrocks | <disclaimer: no this is not to intend that I prefer cmake to autotools> ;) | 11:55 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh, that's why you had to repack manually the tarball! | 11:56 |
| didrocks | confirm, merge-upstream does the right thing for you :) | 11:57 |
| didrocks | confirmed* | 11:57 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 11:57 |
| seb128 | I completely zappy merged upstream after a month of GNOME3 in oneiric | 11:57 |
| didrocks | :-) | 11:57 |
| didrocks | hum, conflicts though | 11:58 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it might be easier to uncommit, redo it using merge upstream and push --overwrite | 11:58 |
| didrocks | hum, not sure it's because of what you did TBH | 11:59 |
| TheMuso | pitti, seb128, are we still likely to have GTK2 on the CD for oneiric? | 12:13 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, yes | 12:13 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, the rdepends list is on the etherpad if you want to check it but it's not likely that firefox and some others will be ported this cycle | 12:14 |
| TheMuso | Ok thanks, just realized one more a11y dep is needed in the meta after doing a fresh installn and finding some things not speaking. :) | 12:14 |
| TheMuso | ok thats fine. | 12:14 |
| TheMuso | libgail-common used to be pulled in by other bits, but is no longer, and still needed. | 12:15 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, could you check on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcanberra/+bug/790608 and see if you have an opinion about it? | 12:15 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 790608 in libcanberra "libcanberra needs to depend on sound-theme-freedesktop" [Medium,Confirmed] | 12:15 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, or do you know who else would be better placed for that? | 12:15 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, why is libgail-common still used? | 12:16 |
| TheMuso | seb128: I will have a read through that complete bug tomorrow and comment. | 12:16 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, btw do you know if onboard is actively maintained? it still use gtk2, pygtk and gconf | 12:16 |
| TheMuso | Re libgail-common, for some reason the libgail.so gtk module is in that package. | 12:16 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, thanks | 12:16 |
| TheMuso | seb128: yes someone is working on onboard, I will prod them re moving to GTK3/Gsettings. | 12:17 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, thanks | 12:17 |
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| * rodrigo_ lunch | 13:28 | |
| alex3f | mvo: hi | 13:37 |
| alex3f | I'm trying to run https://code.launchpad.net/~mmcg069/software-center/gtk3again - but it hangs at http://pastebin.com/yjHKjhAM | 13:37 |
| alex3f | ah, ./software-center-gtk3 | 13:48 |
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| mvo | alex3f: I have a look, not sure whats wrong with it at this point, its pretty volatile | 14:27 |
| alex3f | mvo: I'm rebuilding gtk+, I've seen some similar bug report | 14:28 |
| alex3f | caused by an incomplete build of cairo | 14:28 |
| mvo | aha, ok | 14:28 |
| mvo | good luck! | 14:28 |
| alex3f | thanks | 14:28 |
| mvo | I hope that I can merge the gtk3 stuff soonish | 14:29 |
| mvo | lets see how it goes, but i definietely want to have it in even if its a bit rough currently | 14:29 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey | 14:35 |
| alex3f | mvo: it would be glad to have something merged | 14:35 |
| seb128 | mvo, how would you like the "software-properties should stop depending on synaptic", bug, work item? not tracked? | 14:35 |
| alex3f | since I'm currently unable to run any pk part together with pygtk | 14:35 |
| alex3f | s/glad/great/ | 14:36 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey seb128 , question for you on oneiric. when I open the keyboard settings window, I don't have any sliders for 'delay' or 'speed'. I can't change those? | 14:36 |
| pitti | mvo, seb128: does s-p just call synaptic for the package cache? that could use aptdaemon, right? | 14:36 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I have an annoying slow key repeat rate right now and it is messing with my typing kung-fu! ;) | 14:37 |
| pitti | mvo: a quick grep for synaptic seems to show only that | 14:37 |
| pitti | mvo, seb128: want me to look into this? | 14:38 |
| pitti | seb128: I take it you want to drop synaptic from the default install? | 14:39 |
| mvo | pitti: thanks, feel free to grab that WI | 14:40 |
| pitti | I'd like to unseed it; right now it's being pulled in through software-properties anyway, but it should go away once that dependencies is dropped | 14:40 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, they should be in the keyboard capplet on the first ab? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | tba | 14:40 |
| seb128 | tab | 14:40 |
| seb128 | can't type! | 14:40 |
| mvo | pitti: sounds good to me | 14:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, if you want please, I would like to get synaptic off the CD | 14:40 |
| pitti | bzr commit -m "remove synaptic; it's spelled 'software-center' now" | 14:41 |
| jasoncwarner_ | seb128: nope, not showing up...sliders are there, but no circle to move the values...I'll take screenshot | 14:41 |
| mvo | (or software-centre, depending on your part of the world ;) | 14:41 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, is that our last remaining gksu rdepends? | 14:41 |
| pitti | I'd so love to get rid of gksu, it's quite a GUI inconsistency | 14:42 |
| pitti | ah, no; network-manager and gdebi, plus a few others | 14:42 |
| jasoncwarner_ | seb128: http://img861.imageshack.us/i/selection002g.png/ | 14:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, gdebi is not installed by default right? | 14:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, could we use gksu-polkit | 14:45 |
| seb128 | ? | 14:45 |
| jasoncwarner_ | seb128: I was also wondering if we could get a transparent resize gripper for terminal now that we use overlay scrollbars there...it looks a bit odd/stands out a bit from the rest of the desktop... http://img163.imageshack.us/i/selection003s.png/ | 14:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, or pkexec? | 14:45 |
| pitti | seb128: pkexec doesn't work for X programs; I haven't tried gksu-polkit | 14:45 |
| pitti | seb128: check gdebi's Task: header; it's on some images | 14:46 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, oh you are right for the keyboard, seems like a bug | 14:46 |
| pitti | not on ubuntu, though | 14:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, synaptic seems the only thing using gksu on my install | 14:46 |
| pitti | seb128: apturl also depends on synaptic, though | 14:47 |
| pitti | seb128: network-manager-gnome, gnome-codec-install, checkbox-gtk, apturl, update-notifier, gnome-system-log <- here | 14:47 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, dunno for your second question | 14:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, how do you list those? | 14:48 |
| pitti | sudo dpkg -P gksu | 14:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks, I will fix the buggy gnome-system-log depends, it comes from debian | 14:48 |
| seb128 | we use the admin group for logs in ubuntu | 14:48 |
| pitti | you mean "adm" | 14:48 |
| pitti | ? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, well we rely on the admin users having access by group permissions | 14:49 |
| seb128 | so we don't use gksu | 14:49 |
| seb128 | but ok, still a few rdepends | 14:50 |
| seb128 | ups, got disconnected | 14:56 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, there? | 14:56 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes | 14:56 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you know if jasoncwarner_'s keyboard capplet issue is known? | 14:57 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, the 2 first slitders of the capplet has no round you can drag | 14:57 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm, what issue? | 14:57 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, slider | 14:57 |
| * rodrigo_ looks | 14:57 | |
| rodrigo_ | oh, indeed | 14:57 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, doesn't happen in 3.1.x from jhbuild | 14:58 |
| * rodrigo_ looks at the code | 14:58 | |
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| seb128 | kenvandine, not sure if bug #656329 is fixed in your rewrite but I milestoned for oneiric | 15:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 656329 in gwibber "should use gsettings rather than gconf" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656329 | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yup :) | 15:19 |
| * kenvandine just finished porting the backend to gsettings | 15:20 | |
| seb128 | \o/ | 15:20 |
| seb128 | dobey, kenvandine: bug #800717 | 15:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 800717 in ubuntuone-client "Should stop using gconf in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800717 | 15:34 |
| seb128 | dobey, kenvandine: basically since g-s-d and nautilus are on gsettings, gtk3 it means ubuntuone is having no desktop integration in oneiric | 15:34 |
| seb128 | the gsd code is not loaded neither is the nautilus one | 15:34 |
| dobey | ok | 15:35 |
| dobey | weird, but ok | 15:35 |
| seb128 | dobey, why weird? | 15:36 |
| rodrigo_ | hey dobey | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | fta, can you disable the gwibber daily builds? | 15:36 |
| seb128 | dobey, nautilus changed their abi number since they can't mix gtk2 and gtk3 in the same process so u1 is using the wrong dir and ignored | 15:36 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, the nightlies use the same package branch as the one in oneiric, right? | 15:37 |
| dobey | seb128: don't see why it matters if the extension uses gconf or gsettings in terms of the extension being loaded | 15:37 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: no | 15:37 |
| kenvandine | i am close to merging the client rewrite into trunk, which will break the dailies packaging branch about 2000 ways :) | 15:37 |
| seb128 | dobey, the "enable" key is in gsettings for g-s-d | 15:37 |
| kenvandine | and we should switch to using LP for dailies anyway | 15:37 |
| dobey | seb128: that is a separate bug from the gconf one then | 15:37 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, ok, so you'll have to copy the patch that is failing to apply as soon as I submit it | 15:37 |
| seb128 | dobey, GTK is bug #800723 | 15:38 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: i looked at fixing it the other day, but saw you completely decimated that code for some reason; does trunk still build against evolution 2.x? | 15:39 |
| seb128 | dobey, but yeah, both techs are an issue for different reasons | 15:39 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, yes, it's just the plugin code, which I refactored a bit to share some code for the tasks and contacts plugin | 15:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 800723 in ubuntuone-client "should use GTK3" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800723 | 15:39 |
| seb128 | dobey, the gconf use is an issue because gsd reads gsettings to see what to enable and gtk2 is an issue since nautilus is on gtk3 | 15:39 |
| dobey | seb128: the gconf thing is not an issue because g-s-d reading gsettings to see what to enable is completely separate from whether the plug-in itself uses gconf or gsettings for its own configuration; if we have to toggle an "enable" bool or add some schema to gsettings for having the plug-in load, i think that is still a separate bug from whether or not the extension itself is using gconf | 15:41 |
| seb128 | dobey, right, in any case both gconf and gtk2 should be off the CD by next cycle so it would be nice to start porting this cycle ;-) | 15:41 |
| seb128 | dobey, there is part of functional need there and part of cleaning | 15:42 |
| dobey | ah, i fixed the gtk2/gtk3 issue though in trunk, but haven't made a release yet, because we have lots of other underlying issues to fix as well :) | 15:42 |
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| fta | kenvandine, sure, done | 15:52 |
| kenvandine | fta, thx | 15:52 |
| pitti | mvo: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/software-properties/main/revision/668 works for me | 15:52 |
| pitti | took a bit to get the async handling worked out | 15:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, \o/ | 15:53 |
| pitti | seb128: now the blame is entirely on apturl | 15:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, indeed | 15:53 |
| pitti | which needs porting to GI and to aptdaemon | 15:54 |
| pitti | mvo: do you want to review, or should I just upload? | 15:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you still need the gksu depends? | 15:57 |
| pitti | right now yes | 15:58 |
| seb128 | or to run software-properties-gtk with gksu? | 15:58 |
| pitti | yes, for that | 15:58 |
| pitti | it edits /etc/apt/sources.list, etc. | 15:58 |
| pitti | ideally all that should be offered in aptdaemon as well, and s-p should use it | 15:58 |
| seb128 | right | 15:58 |
| mvo | pitti: I'm in a meeting currently, if you feel good about it, just upload, otherwise I review in ~30 min or so | 16:02 |
| pitti | mvo: ok, I'll upload and take the bullets | 16:02 |
| mvo | pitti: but looks good on a first glance | 16:03 |
| mvo | thanks a bunch pitti! | 16:03 |
| * pitti hugs mvo | 16:03 | |
| * mvo hugs pitti back | 16:04 | |
| kinouchou | hello seb128, didrocks & fredp | 16:06 |
| seb128 | lut kinouchou | 16:06 |
| didrocks | salut kinouchou | 16:07 |
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| didrocks | can anyone binNEW nux on amd64 and i386 (soname change)? I'm about to push unity :) | 16:56 |
| mterry | ronoc, heyo. I just realized indicator-sound wasn't ported to gtk3 yet. I'll propose a merge if you're not already in the middle of that | 16:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: ^ ? | 16:59 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 17:00 |
| pitti | FYI, national holiday tomorrow; I'll probably get online a bit, but not much | 17:01 |
| kenvandine | good night pitti | 17:01 |
| pitti | so, see you on Friday! | 17:01 |
| kenvandine | enjoy! | 17:01 |
| * kenvandine wishes his new motherboard would arrive... i need my build box back! | 17:01 | |
| chrisccoulson | have fun pitti! | 17:01 |
| didrocks | see you pitti! | 17:01 |
| rodrigo_ | have fun pitti | 17:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, 'night, have fun | 17:05 |
| seb128 | didrocks, can do | 17:05 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks :) | 17:06 |
| didrocks | powerpc came to life as well | 17:06 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, leDidRocks ;) | 17:06 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: heh! ;) | 17:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, NEWed | 17:13 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks :) will you be available for the unity ones? (more complex though) | 17:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you can NEW the armel build yourself later if you want | 17:13 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks : ) | 17:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, not sure since it will take until 20:00 for nux to be published now then unity needs to build | 17:14 |
| seb128 | didrocks, but ping jdstrand for example if I'm not around | 17:14 |
| seb128 | or StevenK | 17:14 |
| didrocks | 20:00, not 19:00? | 17:15 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I will try to have a look when I'm back but I need to run in half an hour for sport and I might have dinner outside then | 17:15 |
| seb128 | didrocks, the next publisher run is at 19:03 or something and publishing takes almost an hour | 17:15 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, anyway, not that important, can wait | 17:15 |
| didrocks | I'll try to take a normal evening tonight, 7:30PM to get out :) | 17:16 |
| seb128 | didrocks, but feel free to NEW it yourself otherwise, I will double check it for you tomorrow ;-) | 17:16 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, need to get out for some errands, bbl | 17:18 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, see you | 17:19 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, btw the grep for the http proxy returned several application | 17:19 |
| seb128 | including ubiquity and update-manager, I'm opening bugs for those | 17:19 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, rhythmbox and banshee as well | 17:20 |
| seb128 | software-center | 17:20 |
| seb128 | evolution-data-server | 17:20 |
| mvo | seb128: hm? whats wrong with http_proxy? | 17:21 |
| seb128 | mvo, gnome-control-center uses gsettings | 17:21 |
| seb128 | mvo, so it doesn't write to gconf | 17:21 |
| mvo | aha | 17:21 |
| seb128 | mvo, we were discuting on whether we still need the bridge rodrigo_ wrote which still write those values to gconf for compat | 17:22 |
| seb128 | mvo, but those code will need to be ported to use gsettings rather than rely on compat bridges | 17:22 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok, let me know the bug # once you file it | 17:23 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, now really out, later all | 17:23 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gnome3-gsettings | 17:23 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you can watch that list, they are in it | 17:23 |
| seb128 | mvo, bug #656332 btw, I milestone it to oneiric | 17:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 656332 in update-manager "should use gsettings rather than gconf" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656332 | 17:24 |
| seb128 | or didrocks assigned it to himself, maybe he will do it for you ;-) | 17:24 |
| didrocks | update-manager? yeah, I'll have some fun with it :) | 17:25 |
| mvo | do what you want, I have dinner now ;) | 17:25 |
| * mvo & | 17:25 | |
| seb128 | mvo, enjoy! | 17:25 |
| didrocks | fg | 17:25 |
| didrocks | seb128: argh, you broke it! :-) | 17:26 |
| seb128 | didrocks, broke what? | 17:26 |
| didrocks | (mvo process in background and I tried to "fg" to bring him back in the foreground ;)) | 17:26 |
| seb128 | lol | 17:26 |
| seb128 | ok, need to go, see you later! | 17:29 |
| ronoc | mterry, not at all in the middle of it, merges welcome :) | 18:12 |
| mterry | ronoc, cool, almost done, but hitting some odd issues with finding the currently selected menuitem in gtk3 :) | 18:13 |
| ronoc | mterry, ah the keypress callback in indicator-sound.c ? | 18:14 |
| mterry | ronoc, yeah | 18:15 |
| ronoc | mterry, other than that was it painful ? | 18:15 |
| mterry | (actually, not even dealing with gtk3 right now, just non-deprecated gtk2) | 18:15 |
| mterry | ronoc, no, just some ifdefs and switching from deprecated to non functions | 18:16 |
| ronoc | good stuff | 18:16 |
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| ogra_ | didrocks, i tried to log in with unity instead of -2d today on my armel netbook ... the auto detection is just awesome, but metacity seems to have all composite effects enabled | 18:43 |
| ogra_ | in the unity-2d session if you select it from the DM, composite is on but effects are off | 18:43 |
| ogra_ | would be good if they could behave the same | 18:43 |
| didrocks | ogra_: right, we discussed that there with you 2 weeks before, seems it's urigo who enabled that, and I told you to speak with him IIRC :) | 18:44 |
| didrocks | Kaleo: ^ | 18:44 |
| ogra_ | didrocks, no, thats something different | 18:44 |
| didrocks | oh? | 18:44 |
| didrocks | oh | 18:44 |
| didrocks | on the session | 18:44 |
| didrocks | yeah, for fallbacak | 18:44 |
| didrocks | this is a known issue | 18:44 |
| didrocks | from the beginning | 18:44 |
| didrocks | the gconf keys aren't applied | 18:44 |
| ogra_ | there is a discrepancy between the unity-2d session i get when the auto fallback og unity kicks in | 18:44 |
| didrocks | (on fallbacking) | 18:44 |
| ogra_ | vs the session i get if i select unity-2d directly | 18:45 |
| didrocks | the evil master plan is to make this detection in lightdm itself | 18:45 |
| didrocks | before choosing the session | 18:45 |
| ogra_ | well, whatever works | 18:45 |
| didrocks | which I will try do to next week :) | 18:45 |
| ogra_ | having composite on isnt that big of a showstopper ... as long as the effects stay off | 18:45 |
| didrocks | I think Kaleo is aware of that :) | 18:46 |
| ogra_ | i think it actually speeds up all the QML stuff | 18:46 |
| ogra_ | while metacity itself gets a bit slower | 18:46 |
| ogra_ | i.e. in alt+tab i usually dont get to see the app switcher (takes abotu 1sec to render) , the switching is fast though | 18:47 |
| Kaleo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/791205 is a prerequisite to fix that | 18:47 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 791205 in unity-2d "Metacity needs command line options to activate capture before unmap and compositing without effects" [High,Confirmed] | 18:47 |
| didrocks | so you need: | 18:47 |
| didrocks | compositing on | 18:47 |
| didrocks | effects off | 18:47 |
| ogra_ | yep | 18:47 |
| ogra_ | which is the default in the -2d session already | 18:47 |
| ogra_ | but if the issue is known anyway i will keep quiet :) | 18:47 |
| didrocks | ogra_: we'll think to it, do not hesitate to ping/hurt me during the sprint :) | 18:48 |
| ogra_ | yeah, no worries :) | 18:49 |
| ogra_ | i'll hurt you by forcing you to drink a beer :) | 18:49 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 18:51 |
| didrocks | I like this kind of the pain | 18:51 |
| ogra_ | :) | 18:52 |
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| mterry | ronoc, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/indicator-sound/gtk3/+merge/65552 | 20:20 |
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| ronoc | mterry, thanks - will do now | 22:06 |
| mterry | ronoc, yw; I don't know why I missed it when doing the others :) | 22:06 |
| * ronoc takes a look | 22:07 | |
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| mterry | tremolux, heyo. Did donations in software-center get discussed last UDS? Curious what the plan of record for those are | 22:32 |
| tremolux | mterry: hey! we did not have a session for donations and in fact we don't have an active blueprint for it for oneiric unfortunately | 22:35 |
| tremolux | mterry: here is the spec for it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareDonations | 22:35 |
| tremolux | mterry: we have a lot of other work for s-c this cycle including a full UI refresh (with spec is coming next week), and so donations will have to be postponed for this cycle | 22:37 |
| mterry | tremolux, yeah. Just curious what the state of art is. I'm excited about the UI refresh. The mockups on omg ubuntu were pretty fancy | 22:38 |
| tremolux | mterry: haha, indeed :) | 22:38 |
| tremolux | seems highly unlikely we'll be able to do all of that in 4 weeks or so before feature freeze, but we are going to try to hit as much as we can based on priorities | 22:39 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey guys | 22:40 |
| mterry | jasoncwarner_, hello! | 22:40 |
| TheMuso | Hey jasoncwarner_. | 22:40 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey mterry TheMuso and tremolux. how is everyone? | 22:40 |
| TheMuso | Well thanks. | 22:40 |
| tremolux | heya jasoncwarner_! | 22:40 |
| mterry | good | 22:40 |
| tremolux | very well, thanks | 22:40 |
| * bryceh waves | 22:41 | |
| tremolux | jasoncwarner_: I just sent you an email in response to your email ;) | 22:41 |
| jasoncwarner_ | tremolux: cool...I keep refreshing OMG ubuntu to see if the designs are finished yet ;) (sarcasm) | 22:43 |
| tremolux | jasoncwarner_: LOL | 22:43 |
| jasoncwarner_ | tremolux: :) | 22:44 |
| jasoncwarner_ | tremolux: just read the email. next week at the rally lets talk about some rough idea of scope of the list just so we can start communicating that out; set expectations again...thanks | 22:49 |
| bryceh | jasoncwarner_, btw have you seen that gfx corruption / window clicking bug again, that you mentioned yesterday? | 22:49 |
| jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: I did, but I was in unity again...switched to it after using classic all day | 22:51 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thinking it is a unity issue | 22:51 |
| bryceh | jasoncwarner_, ok, makes sense | 22:51 |
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