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* slangasek brandishes the gavel16:02
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slangasek[TOPIC] lightning round16:03
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slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e cjwatson barry doko csurbhi stgraber jhunt mvo ev vorlon bdmurray)16:03
slangasekjhunt csurbhi ev barry bdmurray doko cjwatson vorlon stgraber mvo16:03
slangasekjhunt: hi there :)16:03
jhuntMore discussions on upstart-devel and pondering re aliases (for abstract16:04
jhuntjobs) and disabling of Upstart jobs. YACU ("yet another Cookbook16:04
jhuntUpdate"). Testing shutdown.conf. Detailed code review of Surbhis Upstart16:04
jhuntin initramfs branch and discussions with her. Finished merge and test of16:04
jhuntUpstart 1.3 into Ubuntu package (it's in my PPA) and raised MP: it's16:04
jhuntrather a nasty merge due to the branch change. Fixed bug 777097 (now16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 777097 in libnih "nih_watch_handle() does not handle file watches correctly" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77709716:04
jhuntmerged). Spent some time on bug 777093 but needs more drastic changes to16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 777093 in libnih "nih_watch_reader() doesn't handle inotify queue overflow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77709316:04
jhuntNIH (ditto for bug 776532). Working on converting SysV services in main16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 776532 in libnih "nih_dir_walk_scan passes incorrect value to file filter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77653216:04
jhuntto Upstart jobs.16:04
jhunt16:04
jhuntcjwatson: could I prod you re the MP or shall I get SpamapS to take a look? I'd like to land it relatively soon to allow us to get the shutdown.conf added straight after).16:05
slangasekwhy does the branch change make it a nasty merge?16:05
slangasek(is the merge done using bzr merge-upstream)?16:05
jhuntwell, the current Ubuntu branch has the same changes, but in different diffs.16:06
cjwatsonjhunt: oh, yeah, I'll take care of it - sorry16:06
cjwatsonI think I saw it last thing on Friday or something16:06
jhuntcjwatson: np, thx.16:06
slangasekah, so they're under debian/patches, not applied to source, ok16:06
jhuntslangasek: it just appears rather large on lp, but it's essentially (mostly) a "nop"16:06
* slangasek nods16:07
jhuntslangasek: although it does have all the new upstream goodness (bug fixes and features :)16:07
slangasek:)16:07
slangasekno surbhi at the moment16:07
slangasekev:16:07
jhuntslangasek: no, sorry. They aren't in as patches, but when you look at the diff stats for my branch, it looks a bit crazy.16:07
ev- Short week; holiday on Friday.16:08
ev- QA test automation sprinting Wednesday and Thursday.16:08
ev- Looking into the various toolkit options for Wubi's future.  This involved16:08
ev  setting up a Windows VM (yay new license), and testing the footprint of16:08
ev  various WebKit embedding solutions (chromiumembedded, Awesomium, Pyside and16:08
ev  QtWebKit, etc) as well as looking at the Ubuntu.com access logs to see just16:08
ev  what percentage of Windows users have .NET 3.5 and thus WPF support.16:08
ev- Finally got the GObject Introspection bindings working with Cheese.  Started16:08
ev  building a test harness using v42loopback.16:08
ev- Had a brief chat with mpt on the design of the wireless network page, and16:08
ev  started implementing it using NetworkManager's fancy new 0.7 DBus API.16:08
ev- Reviewed and merged maco's ubiquity branch to fix bug 791446.16:08
evTODO:16:08
ev- Come up with a new installer testing system built around remote power and USB-driven16:08
ev  images. Expense a pile of mini-ITX boards and further kit to Pete in advance16:08
ev  of the sprint.16:08
ev- Reply to the TB on measuring installation success/failure.  Get the16:08
ev  implementation off the ground.16:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 791446 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "kubuntu installer crashes daily-live 6-1-11: AttributeError: 'QCheckBox' object has no attribute 'set_sensitive'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79144616:08
ev(done)16:08
barryshort week (vacation on monday); bug 797281 (python-httplib2 breaking launchpadlib via lazr.restfulclient); foundations-o-python-versions (py3 cd size calculation); pep 382 planning - sprinted yesterday (summary to be posted); dh_python2 jam tomorrow in #ubuntu-pyjam; out this afternoon; done.16:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 797281 in lazr.restfulclient "LP API broken in oneiric with python-httplib2 0.7.0-1" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79728116:09
bdmurrayubuntu qa pkg stats web pages fix for broken categories16:10
bdmurrayadded in additional foundations packages to pkg stats scripts to make qa pkg pages16:10
bdmurraybranch and bug report for natty SRU of apport package hook for update-manager LP: #79789416:10
bdmurrayapt branch to deal with 'cannot access archive' package install failures16:10
bdmurrayqueried launchpad for all ubuntu-foundations packages with upstream projects that use Launchpad for bug tracking16:10
bdmurrayupdated grab-attachments in ubuntu-dev-tools to grab all attachments for a package's bugs16:10
bdmurrayinvestigation into and bug triage of initramfs-tools bugs regarding update-initramfs and lack of free space on /boot16:10
bdmurrayreduced new bug count in initramfs-tools by ~50% - http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/initramfs-tools16:10
bdmurraybug triage of and pattern writing for msttcorefonts bug reports16:11
bdmurrayreduced new bug count in msttcorefonts by >50% - http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/msttcorefonts16:11
bdmurrayinvestigation into debconf bug 442941 and some duplicate consolidation from other packages16:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 442941 in debconf (Ubuntu) "debconf failed to upgrade from 1.5.27ubuntu1 to 1.5.27ubuntu2: exit status 128 - Use of uninitialized value $reply in scalar chomp at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Passthrough.pm line 66" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44294116:11
bdmurraytroubleshooting and bug reporting regarding wireless issue on my laptop16:11
bdmurraydone16:11
slangasekev: is there a clear winner for webkit footprint?16:12
* cjwatson suspects that that debconf problem is actually a bug specific to package management frontends16:12
evslangasek: mail coming on that shortly, but the short answer is they're all about 8-10MB compressed16:12
evwe might be able to get that down a bit further if we fine tune the ICU library16:13
slangasekbdmurray: "broken categories" - sorry, what are 'categories' in context?16:13
bdmurraycjwatson: at least with some of the msttcorefonts bugs I also saw messages regarding failure to accept the license16:13
evbut that would likely be offset by the actual wubi code and libraries16:13
evas these were just hello world examples16:13
bdmurrayslangasek: categories are just groupings of packages (installer, gnome, etc) on the pkg status pages16:13
slangasekok16:13
jhuntIs there some way we could automatically run "perl -c" on all packages with .p[lm] files in them to avoid bugs like 442941?16:15
slangasek50% reduction in new bugs on initramfs-tools - very nice!  Does that have any detectable impact on the rate at which new bugs are being filed?16:16
cjwatsondoing it on all packages would be pretty rough, but you could definitely do it package-by-package16:16
slangasekev: heh, 8-10MB handily rules out including it on the CD then, doesn't it16:16
cjwatsonbut that's not the problem with 44294116:16
bdmurrayslangasek: yes as I wrote bug patterns to prevent the most commonly reported package installation failures16:16
cjwatsondebconf gives you that error when the other end of what it's talking to went away16:16
evslangasek: exactly. Though I am openly wondering how important that is to us.16:16
cjwatsonit's not a compile-time problem16:16
slangasekev: I am too :-)16:16
evadmittedly, all the download managers I've seen (Microsoft's, for example) aren't any bigger than 3 MB or so.16:17
evand Wubi is effectively becoming one.16:17
slangasekbdmurray: is it in the same range of 50% reduction of new bugs being filed?  Or maybe even higher?16:17
evwith the USB and CD writing.16:17
* slangasek nods16:17
slangasekcjwatson: is there any sense in the last comment on 442941, claiming that it's related to using a root password vs. sudo?16:18
bdmurrayslangasek: no thinking about it possibly lower due to an apport bug16:18
slangasekbdmurray: ah, ok16:18
cjwatsonslangasek: it doesn't make sense to me16:19
jhuntcjwatson: interestingly enough though, "perl -c ...Passthrough.pm still gives warnings on natty (for another included file).16:19
cjwatsonjhunt: yeah, but it doesn't matter16:19
cjwatsonoh, that error is nonsense16:19
* slangasek idly wonders what the old monthly QA reports of Ubuntu bugs over time would show after bdmurray's run of squashing all the biggest duplicate bugs: )16:19
cjwatsonI think16:19
cjwatsonit at least isn't important, since it's only in an error case that hardly ever happens - I'll go have a look and see if it can be squashed though16:20
slangasekdoko is off today; cjwatson?16:20
cjwatsonI need to work on porting debconf's python bits to dh_python2 anyway ...16:20
cjwatsono16:20
cjwatsonFixed grub2 to handle encrypted btrfs /.16:20
cjwatsonFixed parted regression due to Linux 3.0 versioning.16:20
cjwatsonAdded BOOTIF= support to netcfg (Canonical support escalation).16:20
cjwatsonAdded LightDM support to casper, user-setup, and ubiquity.16:20
cjwatsonTracked down and fixed a weird dpkg triggers regression.16:20
cjwatsonCompleted my work items for foundations-o-wubi - the hard bit was handling non-128 ext3/4 inode sizes.  Maybe with any luck I won't have to look at Wubi for the rest of the cycle? :-)16:20
cjwatsonWorked with Surbhi on D-Bus details for initctl pivot.16:21
cjwatsonTaught the installer to regenerate .pyc files and removed them from live filesystems (13MB or so).  Involved fixing a couple of Python module packages along the way.16:21
cjwatsonStarted looking at IPv6 support in netcfg; much of this has been done for Debian, although it hasn't been landed and the developer doing the work has abandoned it, so I'll need to take that over.16:21
cjwatson--16:21
slangasekBOOTIF> whooo16:21
barrycjwatson: py-stuff: \o/16:22
slangasekwubi - that's the hope at least :), but per ev's report above we're still trying to nail down some of the basics about what we're expecting wubi to be at the end of the cycle that affect what skill set we need in a contractor16:22
* cjwatson nods16:22
cjwatsonI meant more that the rest of the work items are assigned to ev ... :-)16:22
slangasekmy turn then16:22
slangasekah :-)16:22
* ev peeks up from under the pile of them16:23
slangasek- merged dpkg 1.16.0 so packages depending on it for multiarch can be in sync with Debian16:23
slangasek- introduced a weird dpkg triggers regression that cjwatson tracked down and fixed ;P16:23
cjwatsonheh16:23
slangasek- merged new upstream util-linux, nobody's come screaming so apparently no regressions in that one16:24
slangasek- continuing to flush multiarch changes to Debian; ~65 library packages to go16:24
slangasek- planning to look at the plymouth merge this week, to try to get that in place before the rally16:25
slangasekEOF16:25
slangasekstgraber:16:25
stgraberSo, last week: - Discussed arkose quite a bit with some people - Started implementing some extra aufs options into arkose - Proof of concept for firewalling in the containers - Updated my IPv6 test setup - Started looking at what's wrong with dhclient and IPv616:25
cjwatsonslangasek: incidentally, if you want closure on dpkg, I think the problem was that in dpkg 1.16.0~ubuntu8 the timestamp on trigdeferred.c in the source tarball was older than that on trigdeferred.l, so it got rebuilt, but in 1.16.0.3ubuntu1 they had the same timestamp16:25
stgraberThis week: - Fixed dhclient.conf to work fine with IPv6 - Did some NetworkManager tests with cyphermox, hopefully we'll have IPv6 by default soon - Finally updated sssd to the new upstream release, closing quite a few bugs (version 1.5.8) - Figured out what was wrong with the new nbd in Debian and did the merge in Ubuntu - Had to deal with some abuse on the WebLive servers. Will blog about it soon.16:25
stgraberRest of the week: - Patch pilot this afternoon - Some more IPv6 tests - Hopefully a new release of Arkose with some bugfixes. - Friday is public holiday so I'll then see you all in Dublin on Sunday.16:25
stgraber(done)16:25
stgraberdoh, copy/paste failed16:26
slangasekcjwatson: right, figured it might be something like that16:26
cjwatsonstgraber: is overlayfs likely to be useful to you?  I noticed apw talking about it recently, and I expect that once overlayfs works for the live CD case they'll be keen to ditch aufs16:26
stgraberfor the long one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630856/16:26
stgrabercjwatson: yep, I'll have to look into that, especially to check it supports the same features as aufs16:27
stgrabercjwatson: as I use some more features than what we use for our livecds (specifically the multiple branch feature)16:27
cjwatsonah16:28
mvolast week:16:28
mvoupdate-manager: include apt_btrfs_snapshot in the upgrader, check for i8xx PCIIDs and warn on upgrade (LP: 774999)16:28
mvosoftware-center: move from restfulclient to piston-mini-client for the SoftwareCenterAgent API calls (took a bit), code cleanup (add SpawnHelper), improve package descriptions parser, review/merge some branches, add htmlize_package_description, debshots: work on multiple screenshots for a single app, add json api for querying availalbe screenshots16:28
mvoapt: review/sponsor apt natty SRU (#346386), work on libapt-pkg4.10 (with debian)16:28
mvoapt-btrfs-snapshot: work on benchmarking apt/dpkg on btrfs, add "list-old-than 10d" support to the commandline16:28
mvowork on  lp:~j-johan-edwards/archive-crawler/near-rewrite16:28
mvodo a bunch of outstanding merges (and forward patches when appropriate) including aptitude which took a bit16:28
mvo(done)16:28
mvoTomorrow is a public holiday, friday a vacation day for me16:28
mvo(really done)16:28
barrymvo: why the move away from restfulclient?16:29
mvobarry: ISD is using piston-mini-client by default for all their stuff16:29
barrymvo: ok! thx16:30
mvobarry: I just follow them here, I don't really strong opionion about it16:30
mvoonly ubuntu sso is using restfulclient currently, once there is the piston api available (I was told soon) that will remove that last bit as well16:30
barrymake sense, since it keeps things in the django house16:30
mvoyeah16:31
slangasekdjango house, a very esoteric musical subgenre16:31
barry:)16:32
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB16:32
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slangasekanything else that's new and groovy?16:32
slangasekor new and hairy?16:32
slangaseksame ol', same ol', apparently :)16:35
slangasek#endmeeting16:35
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slangasekthanks, everyone!16:35
mvothanks16:35
jhuntthanks16:35
stgraberthanks16:35
barrythanks!16:35
mvowhile reviewing the new app-install-data stuff I noticed we have a "beer brewing calculator" now … impressive, category is Engineering16:37
ScottKSeems right.16:37
* mvo is impressed it even has a database with different recipes16:37
mvo… now we only need something like this for green tea too16:38
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* patrickmw waves17:59
patrickmwfew more minutes :)18:00
jibel\o18:00
patrickmwnm, its 1700 utc now :) hello jibel18:00
jibelHey patrickmw18:00
patrickmw#startmeeting18:01
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patrickmwPrevious Actions (all)18:01
patrickmwbdmurray furhter research into the quantity of bug reports containing workarounds18:01
patrickmwCommunity Efforts/Testing18:01
patrickmwAutomated/Systems Testing18:01
patrickmwEngineering Team Bug Status18:01
* charlie-tca is in awe; the meeting page actually works18:01
patrickmwOther Topics18:01
patrickmwChair Selection18:01
patrickmw[TOPIC] Previous Actions18:01
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patrickmwbdmurray?18:01
bdmurraypatrickmw: I did it let me find that email18:01
patrickmwwe'll come right back to you18:02
patrickmw[TOPIC] Community Efforts/Testing18:02
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bdmurray\o18:02
bdmurrayo/18:02
patrickmwthat was quick18:03
bdmurrayso initially I'd said about 720 bug reports had workarounds in the description18:03
bdmurraycome to find out my search was case sensitive and its more like 10,00018:03
bdmurrayIn all fairness the documentation does say to use WORKAROUND18:04
jibelbdmurray, it that opened bug reports only or fixed as well ?18:05
bdmurrayregardless workarounds have been documented a fair bit and these should be communicated more and better18:05
bdmurrayjibel: all bugs18:05
jibelbdmurray, k18:05
bdmurraypatrickmw: that's it18:06
patrickmwthank you, bdmurray.  back to community efforts18:07
patrickmwpedro_, jibel?18:07
jibelSRU testing18:07
jibelOver the past week 874 packages have been published to stable releases18:08
jibelThe complete list is available at18:08
jibel[LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sru/latest.html18:08
MootBotLINK received:  http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sru/latest.html18:08
jibel* A total of 832 packages have been published to natty18:08
jibel  * 4 packages published to natty-updates: foo2zjs, icedtea-web, sandboxgamemaker, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics18:08
jibel  * 805 packages published to natty-security: firefox, 794 languages packs, flashplugin-nonfree,libvirt, libxml2, mozvoikko, nagios3, openjdk-6, openjdk-6b18, tgt, ubufox, webfav18:08
jibel  * 23 packages published to natty-proposed: bindwood, byobu, bzr, curl, deja-dup, evince, firefox, fpc, gecko-mediaplayer, gxine, kde4libs, kdeutils, linux-firmware, moon, mozvoikko, ntp, oss4, quickly, software-center, unity, vlc, webfav, whois18:08
jibel* A total of 17 packages have been published to maverick18:08
jibel  * 2 packages published to maverick-updates: grub2, lupin18:08
jibel  * 11 packages published to maverick-security: ejabberd, firefox, flashplugin-nonfree, libvirt, libxml2, nagios3, nbd, openjdk-6, openjdk-6b18, tgt, xulrunner-1.9.218:08
jibel  * 4 packages published to maverick-proposed: byobu, fpc, openssh, software-center18:08
jibel* A total of 23 packages have been published to lucid18:08
jibel  * 6 packages published to lucid-updates: dkms, dovecot, grub2, language-pack-gnome-fr, lupin, sysvinit18:08
jibel  * 11 packages published to lucid-security: ejabberd, firefox, flashplugin-nonfree, libvirt, libxml2, nagios3, nbd, nginx, openjdk-6, openjdk-6b18, xulrunner-1.9.218:08
jibel  * 6 packages published to lucid-proposed: byobu, debian-installer, fpc, linux, netcfg, openssh18:08
jibel* A total of 2 packages have been published to hardy-security: libxml2, nbd18:09
jibelThanks to everyone who helped with testing.18:09
jibelmicahg, sent a call for testing for firefox in Natty18:09
jibelNext Oneiric milestone is in 2 weeks, but you can test daily builds until then.18:11
jibeland that's all for today18:11
jibelpedro_, ? any news on bugdays ?18:11
pedro_Hello, Yes!18:11
pedro_there's a bug day being organized for tomorrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2011062318:11
pedro_Unity is the target , so if you use Oneiric and want to contribute a little to make Unity rock please join us18:12
pedro_as always the *whole* day your timezone at #ubuntu-bugs18:12
pedro_..18:12
patrickmwthanks, guys18:13
patrickmw[Automated/Systems Testing]18:13
patrickmwboo18:13
patrickmw[TOPIC] Automated/Systems Testing18:13
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patrickmw= What was done last week =18:13
patrickmwThe Automation Sprint was productive and we have been able to set goals for Oneiric and beyond. The three highest priority testing items:18:13
patrickmw* ISO server and EC2 image testing18:13
patrickmw* Kernel SRU testing18:13
patrickmw* Installer testing18:13
patrickmwOther projects:18:13
patrickmw* Public Jenkins viewing instance18:13
patrickmw* testing notifications mailing list18:13
patrickmw* ISO server tests have been migrated to the new lab18:13
patrickmw= What's happening this week =18:13
patrickmw* Running the tests for all images is now 8x faster.  The CPU load on the system averaged around 30%.  The current bottleneck is IO.  Once we get the new drives added we should see increased performance.18:13
patrickmw* EC2 access has been configured and we will be setting up EC2 tests18:13
patrickmw* The kernel sru testing project is undergoing modifications to prepare for Alpha 2 kernel testing18:13
patrickmw= What we need to move forward =18:14
patrickmw* Awaiting new hardware for Installer test environment18:14
patrickmwQuestions?18:14
jibelo/18:14
patrickmwyes?18:14
jibelnot a question, just some infos about Wubi testing18:15
jibelSome good progress this week, I added a noninteractive mode to Wubi and I'm now able to run a wubi installation completely automatically.18:16
jibelI expect to finish the automated tests of Wubi tomorrow after some polishing and testing.18:16
jibelSome details still remains like selecting Ubuntu by default before reboot then back to windows by default for next run,18:16
jibelswitching the default windows user to auto login,18:16
jibelhow to start a jenkins job in Windows and report the results from Ubuntu18:16
jibeland how to remove all those Ads installed by default on Windows and which pop up continuously during the test run18:16
jibelI hope we'll be able to add the test machine to the automated test run next week. We have to figure18:17
jibelremove the "We have to figure" c/p error18:17
jibelThis doesn't replace what ev plan to do with kvm autotest of course18:18
jibel..18:18
patrickmwawesome!18:18
patrickmwunless there is anything else we're moving on in 318:19
patrickmw218:19
patrickmw[TOPIC] Engineering Team Bug Status18:19
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patrickmwwho wants to start?18:19
bdmurray\o/18:20
patrickmwgo, sir!18:20
bdmurrayupdated grab-attachments in ubuntu-dev-tools to grab all attachments for a package's bugs18:20
bdmurrayreduced new bug count in initramfs-tools by ~50% - http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/initramfs-tools18:20
bdmurraysome details at http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=10418:21
bdmurrayreduced new bug count in msttcorefonts by >50% - http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/msttcorefonts18:21
bdmurraylooked into some debconf package install failures bug 44294118:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 442941 in debconf (Ubuntu) "debconf failed to upgrade from 1.5.27ubuntu1 to 1.5.27ubuntu2: exit status 128 - Use of uninitialized value $reply in scalar chomp at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Passthrough.pm line 66" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44294118:21
bdmurrayI added in some additional foundations packages to the package status pages18:22
bdmurray. done .18:22
patrickmwdanke18:22
jibelbdmurray, that's fantastic. I think bug 349469 could benefit of your magic too.18:23
patrickmwpedro_, any updates for Desktop?18:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 349469 in debconf (Ubuntu) "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34946918:23
jibelthere are quite a bunch18:23
pedro_patrickmw, nope , the bug day was my item for it and already covered18:23
bdmurrayjibel: thanks I've seen some of those but hadn't looked for the master yet18:23
patrickmwgreat. did I miss anyone?18:23
patrickmwnot sure if jibel or hggdh have updates this section18:24
jibelnothing from me.18:25
patrickmw[TOPIC] Other Topics18:25
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patrickmwopen floor18:25
bdmurray\o18:25
patrickmwbdmurray, go ahead :) - your arm must be tired18:26
bdmurrayAs a general statement bug patterns can be really really helpful for consolidation duplicate bug reports and preventing further bug reports.18:26
bdmurrayI've seen some cases where people have been manually marking duplicates for bugs reported by apport where a pattern would have made things a lot easier for them.18:27
bdmurray..18:27
patrickmwbdmurray: is there a list on the wiki of common bug patterns?18:27
bdmurrayhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo#Bug_patterns18:27
patrickmwthere ya go peeps18:27
jibelbdmurray, will you give a session about bug patterns at next udw ?18:28
bdmurrayjibel: when is that again?18:28
jibelin 3 weeks iircs18:28
jibel11th July18:29
jibelto 15th18:29
bdmurrayjibel: okay signing up18:29
patrickmwthanks again, bdmurray. any other topics?18:29
jibelor more generally how to take advantage of bug patterns, grab-attachment and other lp tools18:29
patrickmw[TOPIC] Chair Selection18:30
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patrickmwjibel?18:30
hggdhsorry, was out on a medical procedure, and am still groggy18:30
jibelSure, I'll chair next meeting.18:31
patrickmwjibel, thank you very much18:31
jibelyw18:31
patrickmw#endmeeting18:31
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jibelThanks for chairing patrickmw18:32
pedro_thanks18:32
patrickmwmy pleasure18:32
charlie-tcaThanks for chairing, patrickmw18:33
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