[00:18] crap, no krondor around [00:20] http://www.flickr.com/photos/brousch/sets/72157626892642245/ [00:20] we're hit! [00:20] ouch! [00:23] no leaks yet [00:27] Time to make some phonecalls [00:28] brousch: At least you and the family are safe? [00:28] yeah [00:28] my photo was on woodtv8 [00:28] http://twitpic.com/5exl8m [00:28] brousch: Yay? :) [00:32] yeah [01:00] android peeps, how do I install a new clockwork when it's not working from within rom manager? [01:00] so manually? [01:01] everyone says "install through rom manager" [01:01] it says it did it, but when I reboot it's still 2.5.0.1 [02:21] dammit, verizon needs an official google phone [02:22] whoa, the regional radar looks messy! [02:23] brousch has trees on his house [02:23] eek! [02:23] brousch: so sorry man! good luck with that! [02:29] please don't let me have bricked my phone [02:29] kthx [02:54] rick_h_: there is another technique i have to use have the time [02:55] sprecovery i think it's called http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Motorola_Droid:_Full_Update_Guide [02:56] put rom on root of sd and boot it funky [02:58] yea trying that [02:59] well, the radio tried that === lotia is now known as lotia-away [12:57] quiet morning [13:00] too quiet [13:00] maybe they all got crushed by trees [13:01] i was saved by my timely rerouting of auxiliary power to my house's structural integrity field [13:07] brousch: well done, ensign [13:07] ok, it'll get loud now, at the dealership pre-travel [13:07] I can complain about car dealerships and prices [13:08] however the waiting area is nice, double desk, power strip, and wifi [13:09] where's our BB fans when we need them http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2011/06/22/rim-cuts-internal-playbook-sales-estimates-by-more-than-half/?awesm=tnw.to_19Q7r&utm_content=spreadus&utm_medium=tnw.to-other&utm_source=direct-tnw.to [13:09] bah, sorry bad linkage [13:09] fans? plural? [13:09] there's more than just tjagoda now? [13:10] oh sorry, thought we had a pair of them [13:12] you think they're like sith? there's always 2? [13:12] very likely [13:12] so how's the shield holding up? [13:14] no leaks [13:14] wow, pinboard story gets better [13:14] http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/21/f-b-i-seizes-web-servers-knocking-sites-offline/?smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto [13:14] i get to call insurance this morning to see if they'll rescue us [13:14] FBI yanked 3 racks for lulzsec? [13:14] brousch: cool, good luck man [13:15] yeah, i saw that. slightly more sympathetic now [13:15] though it seems like they would have redundant servers in another facility [13:16] oooh, python on your phone, but you have to use meego http://wiki.meego.com/Harmattan_Python [13:25] party [13:26] lulzsec is just getting everyone, and some people they didn't even target! [13:31] We have an ubuntu-us-mi meeting scheduled for July 3. I won't be able to attend due to fireworks. Could we move it? [13:32] sounds reasonable [13:34] I'll be IRC-less the Sunday before and the Sunday after :/ [13:40] maybe saturday [13:40] Yeah, I think we should move it to the next weekend [13:41] since having it on the holiday weekend is just asking for no participation [13:41] we could do middle of the week [13:41] tuesday [13:44] crazy talk [13:44] wednesday. rollit into ubuntu hour/chc [13:44] I was thinking of just moving it to the 10th [13:45] frankly, I think we'd get more participation during the week, but then you run into folks that can't get access to IRC via work [13:45] if you roll it into UH/CHC, too much will be said IRL and not IRC [13:45] I could do tuesday the 5th or *possibly* sunday the 10th [13:46] well really if 90% of the irc attendees are at uh/chc then it's a pretty good meeting [13:47] snap-l: it's at 9pm, i don't see what work has to do with it [13:47] I was thinking we could just have it during the day. :) [13:47] frankly, there's enough folks online during the day that we might have better meetings [13:48] but then you get into excluding those that don't have good network access from work [13:48] personally, my vote would be 8pm on Tuesday the 5th [13:48] although Wolfger somehow manages to get out Hogans Heroes style. [13:48] greg-g: that works for me [13:48] Same here [13:49] make it so! [13:49] * greg-g edits the LoCoDir [13:49] brousch: wait, you just went from an ensign to captain? nice! [13:50] saying make it so doesn't make me the captain [13:50] Anyone want to submit a bug for the micro blogging spam? [13:51] Because I will [13:51] snap-l: I see nothink! [13:52] snap-l: please do [13:52] I'll bitch... I mean, confirm it [13:52] this should be updated correctly http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/79/detail/ [13:53] * greg-g eamils the mailing list [13:55] crap, still can't get my phone to boot [13:55] this isn't good :/ [13:55] :( [13:55] rick_h_: did you try sprecovery? [13:55] brousch: no, I peeked at the link you sent and it seemed like what I was doing now except for the droid [13:55] ok [13:56] i think you rename the rom to update.something, then run sprecovery and update through it [13:56] sometimes it will even see update.rom on your sd card, grab it, and install it by itself [13:56] right, and I've still got the clockwork recovery rom on my phone [13:56] and can install from zip [13:57] but it's off [13:57] did you try renaming it? [13:57] I can't update clockwork itself, or the radio which started all this [13:57] and just tried manually installed cyanogen again which isn't loading [13:57] put the cyanogenmod rom on it instead of clockwork [13:57] clockwork is the recovery [13:57] not the rom [14:00] have you tried your non-CM mod? [14:00] like vendor's rom or rooted vendor version of regular rom? [14:01] * greg-g sent email [14:01] ty greg-g [14:01] brousch: not yet, I'm thinking the problem is the lower level so far and I know I've had cyanogen on here going before [14:02] so working with what I know worked before [14:04] yeah, i had some sweaty times getting roms on this phone [14:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/800676 [14:04] finally got clockwork actually working right [14:05] snap-l: confirmed [14:05] tx [14:23] I hate it when other people make me look like a liar [14:24] welcome to the channel, gppl :) [14:24] ignore my liar comment, it was something work related that I just wanted to rant about :) [14:24] Hello [14:25] ranting can be good :) [14:28] greg-g: name and address? we'll take care of the problem for you [14:29] :) [14:29] brousch: see PM [14:29] ;) [14:36] krondor: I *think* I am in this boat: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/6433-solved-messed-up-partitions-on-internal-storage/ [14:36] and had some parted fun on there which seems to have gotten rid of the errors with the cache [14:37] hm, i have had to reformat the card and clear all caches [14:37] i forgot about that [14:38] ooh, have a cyanogen boot screen now [14:39] that's closer than I've been since last night [14:39] 9:38, see how long it runs for [14:39] rick_h_: wow that's some level of hosed up partitions :) seems like the thread has the answer though [14:40] krondor: yea, I'm back in now cyanogen [14:40] I still can't figureout why I can't load any radio/clockwork images though :/ [14:40] ouch, he actually repartitioned his internal memory? [14:40] it finds the file in hboot [14:40] and loads, checking PB31IMG.zip [14:40] and then just drops to hboot menu [14:41] crap need to activate the phone [14:41] program it...hope this works [14:50] which radio were you trying? 2.15.10.05.06? did you md5 it? [14:50] greg-g: Yeah, I hate that as well [14:52] krondor: so I tried the latest two [14:52] md5'd everything [14:52] even roms and such [14:52] also tried a new clockwork, I'm stuck on 2.5 something [14:52] rom manager says I had updated to 3.0.8 but when I booted into recovery it was still 2.5 [14:52] and whenI tried to load the md5 checked new clockwork same fail [14:53] I'm working on getting set back up now, working on the backup/restore part [14:53] so looks like I've at least got phone calls back [14:55] yay! the phone can make calls now! :) [14:55] ok, hmm, a couple of things the SD card is fat32 formatted right? When you tried rom manager did you have it set to erase recovery before flashing recovery? [14:55] sorry, that is the one thing that I'm not looking forward to with a smart phone when I get it, all the effing around I'll be doing and potential breakedness I cause :) [14:56] krondor: yes on both accounts [14:57] I'm thinking maybe you could try flashing to another recovery (anon_ra) then flashing back to see what occurs. It's not surprising that the recovery isn't coming down, when you tried the radio flash you used fastboot right? [14:57] pb31img file would include a recovery, is why it isn't surprising I meant [14:58] ok so fastboot I can't figureout [14:58] seems to be a command, but I don't have that ocmmand [14:58] it's an option from hboot screen [14:58] but that just seems to boot the phone [14:59] I tried to just put the file on the sd card, boot into hboot, and it checks, see the file, loads it, and then does a check on it...and that must fail because it dumps back to hboot menu [15:00] yeah it should prompt you along the lines of update found press power to apply or some such. It seems that hboot isn't able to interpret the file as an update for some reason [15:00] right [15:04] bah humbug, had hoped after all this I might get gps back on accident [15:04] so much for that plan [15:05] yeah I have a meeting to run to, I'd try pinging someone in #cyanogenmod and see if anyone's seen it [15:05] thanks, no biggie. Was more freaked out last night when I couldn't get it to boot [15:05] at least I'm back where I started [15:05] thanks for the help [15:41] snap-l: I need your help [15:41] I want to use a Rush lyric for my Unity report title [15:41] jcastro: What can I do to help:? [15:41] but I need something punny [15:41] What's the gist of the report? [15:41] right now it's this cheesy sounding "Calm before the storm" [15:41] basically, boring crap is going on [15:41] but it will get awesome soon [15:41] Give me a sec. [15:43] Was thinking something from marathon, but that's not going to work [15:43] * jcastro checks out red sector a [15:43] Dude, no [15:43] Holocaust song != calm before the storm [15:43] heh [15:43] oh wow [15:43] is that what that is [15:44] I thought it was about guys stuck in prison in the future [15:44] Um, no [15:44] It's kinda about Geddy's family. [15:45] http://www.therushforum.com/index.php?showtopic=95 [15:45] wow, I had no idea [15:45] Maybe not directly, but yeah [15:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sector_A [15:46] oh man [15:46] around Beta release Kid Gloves is full of good ones [15:47] Most of them are good for beta release. :) [15:47] "Like a rare and precious metal beneath a ton of rock" [15:47] heh [15:47] close, too presumptious [15:49] You can be the captain [15:49] I will draw the chart [15:49] Sailing into destiny [15:49] Closer to the heart [15:50] damn, that would have been good for the first one [15:50] Just between us [15:50] I think it's time for us to realize [15:50] The spaces in between [15:50] Leave room for you and I to grow [15:50] Entre Nous [15:51] got it [15:51] "Chip away the stone" [15:51] from carve away the stone [15:52] Um, it's about Sisyphus. :) [15:52] Who never gets the stone up the hill [15:52] well, this IS about linux [15:52] ok, this gets me off the hook [15:53] I will try to pay attention to the lyrics from now on [15:55] Roll away the stone [15:55] (Sisyhpus) [15:55] Roll away the stone [15:55] If you could just move yours [15:55] I could get working on my own [15:55] hahaha [15:55] man [15:55] that's so deep there [15:56] Neil is an awesome lyricist [15:56] They're like the fourth member of the band [15:56] yeah [15:58] I love how he was voted the worst lyricist by Blender Magazine [15:58] and that they still to this day ask the band about Ayn Rand [15:58] heh [15:58] I think her influence waned in the band long after 2112. [15:58] ok call, bbl [15:59] laterness [16:14] geeze, I'm in the wrong business [16:14] should have gone into car repair [16:14] they keep coming in here telling person after person "you've got xxx, that'll be $1500..." [16:14] "oh, we found you've got yyy...$2500" [16:17] kind of like computer repair.... except that doesn't really exist much anymore [16:18] yea, these days people just buy new ones [16:18] kind of crazy [16:18] Well, the low end computer is cheaper than repair rates, and likely better overall than the computer you have. For desktops, at any rate [16:19] Printers... don't get me started. [16:19] "we ran out of toner. Buy a new printer, it's cheaper than the toner cartridge." [16:23] best thing I ever did, nice HP laserject and forgot what colors look like [16:26] i print 90% of my stuff at work in B&W, and 10% at home in color [16:38] this is kind of crazy: widox Blazeix _stink_ check out the dotted line: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-monthly-201005-201105 [16:39] snap-l: You read Aaron Griffin's Buzz? [16:39] Wolfger: Not to my knowledge. :) [16:39] http://classics.tumblr.com/post/6778298388 [16:39] Wolfger: Heh. :) [16:39] and I suppose that's for jcastro too.... [16:40] any of you metalheads [16:41] <_stink_> rick_h_: you think that recent increase is mobile or something? [16:42] no, check out the chrome versions 9/10 [16:42] note chrome is current stable at 12, beta/alpha at 13 I believe [16:42] <_stink_> ahh ok [16:43] 9 & 10 just cliff off the map [16:43] amazing how auto updating keeps people on the latest version [16:43] and it's so fast that the people doing these charts can't add version number checks fast enough [16:43] just says "unknown browser" [16:43] but directly matches the prev chrome cliffs [16:44] really makes you think about auto updating apps, if you don't want to support legacy, make it invisible [16:44] get into oracle and EMC. "oh, we found you've got yyy... $1,500,500" "You've got xxx, that'll be $300,000" [16:44] Well, it starts me wondering about the bad ol' days of browser locking [16:45] browser locking? [16:45] where you have to use FF 2 because someone didn't get around to updating the site or coding for standards. [16:45] "We've tested on Chrome 9, FF 3.6, and ..." [16:45] well the thing is that these days it breaks for a large enough % of users you have to fix [16:46] rick_h_: You work for a company, right ? :) [16:46] yep, but it's not like we're doing activex crap [16:46]

still works just fine :P [16:46] "It's not the fault of my code, it's your browser." [16:46] right, but you can't say that because it's not like the browsers are 5% [16:47] "Extensively tested against (geriatric browser)" [16:47] I'm not saying it makes sense, I'm saying that's the kind of bullshit that unfortunately gets thrown about [16:47] They finally upgraded IE to 8 on my work machine [16:48] woo, now you have crappy dev tools! [16:48] i'm still on ie7 on a client machine [16:48] Yeah, and two months ago, it was still IE6 [16:49] I'm supporting IE6 for staples [16:49] Of course the caveats were that some internal sites will break [16:49] so understand it all of course [16:49] * Wolfger shudders [16:49] die, IE6, die! [16:49] I'm hopeful that folks will code to standards so the version number and browser won't matter [16:49] I wish...but really, these days the gap between IE6 and 8 aren't enough for my tastes [16:50] but unfortunately I can see knee-jerk reactions in browser lock-down [16:50] snap-l: right, that's pat of what I think this rapid FF/Chrome release stuff gets [16:50] you can't lock down, they move too fast [16:50] but also think it provides some insight into your own developed apps [16:50] So companies move back to what is more stable [16:50] the success of the chrome auto update is crazy [16:50] * rick_h_ looks at our server team moving to centos5 and nods [16:51] I guess fortunately a lot of our stuff is client facing [16:51] we don't have that luxury [16:55] i only consider ie9, chrome 9+, and ff4+. everything else is dead to me. [16:55] oh wait... and... and... iphone safari [16:56] except for your ie7 client :P [16:56] i don't do webdev for them. [16:56] hell... i don't do webdev for anyone but me. [16:57] you mean there's dev other than web and mobile?! [17:01] yup [17:04] is it cobol? [17:13] ok, four hours in I'm regretting waiting for the car to get done [17:16] rick_h_: What was wrong with the car? [17:16] And are you at the dealership? [17:17] I know the answer to #2 is yes [17:18] 30k milage overhaul [17:18] and a slow leaking tire [17:18] And that's a four hor tour? [17:18] at 29k about to head to VA, so figure it's time to get the big service done [17:18] hour tour, rather? [17:18] yea, plugs, wires, the whole shebang [17:18] 4-5 hours she says [17:18] You're fucking kidding me [17:18] "a three hour tour... a three hour tour" [17:19] If they charge you an hour for replacing the fuel filter, that's crap [17:19] wtf do you do at 30k? [17:19] at 30k a car is brand fucking new IMO. I do nothing to it. [17:20] my bro-in-law had one changed faster than a magician's trick [17:20] plugs and wires at 100k [17:20] jrwren: ++ [17:20] unless they're melted. [17:20] right, but why would they be melted? [17:20] I'm just using as a for-instance. [17:21] right, and if for-instance they were melted, I'd be selling that thing, cuz something is wrong if they be melted cables :) [17:22] Nah, that's just a recall. ;) [17:22] oh,also had her checking hte brakes [17:22] rick_h_: But yeah, I've been at the dealership before for over 3 hours [17:23] http://www.cars101.com/subaru/subaru_maintenance.html column 30 [17:23] there's only so much day-time TV you can watch before going insane. [17:23] well working [17:23] Half-working [17:23] writen a node.js socket server, got my phone running, and starting to peer at this book R in a nutshell [17:23] yea, half working, true [17:23] yeah, GM Goodwrench has the same b.s. recommendations. [17:23] because some idiot over there is shouting a conversation to someone on the phone as if they were on Mars [17:24] Subaru is GM (or was) [17:24] never. [17:24] GM had a 20% stake. [17:24] jrwren: yea, I drive it hard though, I know I'm due brakes, ready for a tune up, and might need tires [17:24] ah, well if you drive hard, then I do get it. [17:24] yea, don't ever recall subaru/gm playing together [17:24] I drive like grandpa most of the time. [17:25] yea, I beat on my cars and ask for no forgiveness [17:25] it's like my laptops. Buy good stuff, hammer away, and try to take care of it [17:25] I just drive until something falls off [17:25] lol [17:26] I did that in my poor school days [17:26] i'm pretty much with snap-l [17:26] The car lets me know when it needs maintenance. :) [17:26] a 4 rotor replacement once taught mea good lesson [17:26] rick_h_: Ouch [17:26] with minor preventative, like plugs and cables at 100k [17:26] i'm still in poor employed days [17:26] I drove Ford vehicles. Getting to 100K was a challenge before the Transmission lunched at 60k [17:26] well, I'm better able to do a small brake job now vs asking them how far they can turn the rotors [17:27] snap-l: lol. maybe you could change alegiance. [17:27] my last subie went 150k-ish [17:27] afterall, Ford is a MSFT lover. [17:27] I drive a chevy mid-size. rotors are cheap :) [17:27] jrwren: I did. Had an Alero before I bought my Dodge Caliber. [17:28] I love my wife's Alerao. [17:28] Alero [17:28] wow, finger really wants to type era at the end of that word. [17:28] GM Makes great beater cars. [17:29] indeed. [17:29] cheap parts FTW [17:29] but I mean I really like my wifes alero. its very comfortable. it rides nice, even at high speeds. get great milage. [17:31] yay, don't need new tires [17:31] and they say brakes are a 6/10 hmmm, wonder what number the change them at [17:33] 0 [17:33] lol [17:35] depends on the greed of the mechanic... [17:35] I guess I'm just sensitive [17:35] 9/10: You need new brakes! [17:36] when I start noticing the difference I want to fix it/change it out [17:36] tires are good, but man they weren't as good as those triple treads I had on my last subaru so I want to change them out [17:37] as my wife says, I'm "too easily displeased" [17:38] rick_h_: Yes. [17:38] ;) [17:41] No! :-o [17:41] I can't believe that. [17:43] hah! I know...can you believe she thinks that! [17:43] is tonight's chc an early one? [17:43] no, next week's [17:43] but I won't be here for it [17:43] ok [17:43] so it's all on snap-l to host [17:44] and bring cookies [17:44] bah [17:44] oh wait cookies! [17:44] haha [17:50] heh [17:59] rick_h_: whose tripple treads did you have? [18:00] I loved my goodyear assurance tripple tread, but they are LOUD. I think next time I'll get something more standard to try to reduce road noise. [18:17] Oh this is awesome [18:17] listening to FLOSS Weekly, and apparently something is making Bradley Kuhn sound like a chipmunk [18:18] http://twit.am/listen.m3u [18:19] Apparently it's only a certain combination [18:20] Still, amused me. [18:54] any python headz have experience profiling multithreaded apps? [18:56] binbrain: Not personally [19:15] i thought python threads were still fake because of the GIL [19:32] http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/39371 [19:32]