[00:00] <bilz> edbian, that doesnt exist
[00:00] <edbian> bilz: ... what?
[00:00] <edbian> bilz: We like... need that :)
[00:00] <bilz> doh, an MBR and a menu.lst!
[00:00] <qin> bliket_: You propably want to connect with key not password.
[00:00] <bliket_> no its ok
[00:01] <bilz> will ubuntu automagically make me one?
[00:01] <trancegeek> linux != automagic anything
[00:01] <edbian> bilz: ha,  can you run sudo grub-mkconfig -o /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg     (then it will make one)
[00:01] <kercyr> I got it, thanks.
[00:01] <JamesJRH> One of my Ubuntu laptops crashed. Now it can't mount /dev/sda2. I have booted to a Natty LiveCD. 'sudo e2fsck -fv /dev/sda2' says the device is busy. Mounting hangs and becomes uninterruptible. Any ideas why this is happening or how to fix this?
[00:02] <trancegeek> sounds like a bad hdd
[00:02] <edbian> JamesJRH: the harddrive is damaged
[00:02] <edbian> JamesJRH: e2fsck checks a harddrive for errors.  It should not hang.
[00:02] <bilz> edbian, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)
[00:02] <edbian> bilz: ugh
[00:02] <edbian> bilz: sudo chroot /mnt/
[00:02] <tmbg> how do you set a dns suffix search order that dhclient/network manager will not mess with?
[00:03] <edbian> bilz: Then sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:03] <JamesJRH> edbian: e2fsck doesn't hang, it says it's busy and gives up.
[00:03] <bilz> edbian, same error
[00:03] <edbian> JamesJRH: still a bad sign.  does the live CD boot?
[00:03] <edbian> bilz: This just got harder...
[00:04] <bilz> i've no idea how I broke it so badly
[00:04] <JamesJRH> edbian: Yes, the LiveCD booted fine.
[00:04] <edbian> JamesJRH: Can you mount the drive now?
[00:04] <bilz> will it be easier to just reinstall?
[00:04] <qin> JamesJRH: Well you could try to copy sda2 make image and mount it, testdisk to check fs would be fisrt step, anyway.
[00:05] <edbian> bilz: Can you sudo update-grub   ?
[00:05] <edbian> bilz: I'm living in a fantasy world.
[00:05] <bilz> edbian, same error
[00:05] <edbian> bilz: I don't think it's easier to re-install.
[00:05] <trancegeek> i'm trying to set up an ad-hoc network to share an internet connection to my phone from my ubuntu-pc, networkmanager will not do this reliably so far and i'm not sure why, iwconfig shows the essid as set every time with networkmanager but it doesn't show up as an available network on multiple devices including a windows pc that i tried, so i tried using the manual iwconfig method, and setting the essid results in iwconfig s
[00:05] <trancegeek> till showing a blank essid
[00:06] <edbian> bilz: I found out here to fix it here: http://www.robertbeal.com/562/rebuilding-grub2-grub-cfg-from-ubuntu-live-cd
[00:06] <Spynxic> Does Wine work for *.msi?
[00:06] <edbian> bilz: Since we did that chroot you probably have to reboot the live CD
[00:06] <edbian> bilz: Reboot the live CD and then follow those instructions.  I'm here to answer any questions you have on the way.
[00:07] <NictraSavios> Spynxic, Yes
[00:07] <JamesJRH> edbian: Any attempt to mount it becomes uninterruptible. Even when I have not mounted it, there is an uninterruptible process 'jbd2/sda2-8'. Maybe this is preventing other processes from accessing it.
[00:07] <bilz> thanks edbian, going to give it a shot now
[00:08] <Spynxic> NictraSavios: I keep getting a "wine: Bad EXE format for [path to the .msi]"
[00:08] <trancegeek> useless room is useless
[00:08] <edbian> bilz: good luck!
[00:09] <edbian> JamesJRH: Take a look at the drive in disk utility or gparted
[00:09] <Guest97> Is it possible to boot into Unity from a LiveUSB?
[00:10] <Jordan_U> Guest97: If your graphics card has open source drivers available with full 3D support, yes.
[00:10] <qin> trancegeek: sudo service network-manager stop && sudo ifconfig wlan0 down && sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc && sudo ifconfig wlan0 up && iwconfig
[00:10] <NictraSavios> Spynxic, Thats cus theres a special wine for msi :P
[00:10] <chaddy> qin: he left with a petted lip
[00:11] <Guest97> Jordan_U Yeah I figured that was the problem, thanks.
[00:11] <NictraSavios> Spynxic, hint: msiexec
[00:11] <JamesJRH> Apparently I can't kill uninterruptible proccesses, but can I reboot the LiveCD in such a way so that 'jbd2/sda2-8' is not started in the first place. Any other utility blocks, probably because /dev/sda2 is in use by this uninterruptible process.
[00:11] <Jordan_U> Guest97: You're welcome.
[00:11] <qin> chaddy: /ignore *geek* would be much less typing!
[00:12] <bilz> edbian, www.pastebin.com/yVJbR9rd
[00:12] <cordell> What dell laptop is pictured on the ubuntu homepage?
[00:12] <JamesJRH> Note, I can access files on the partition from Grub.
[00:12] <bilz> edbian, SUCESS
[00:12] <johntramp> hi.  is it possible to run two different window managers on a dual monitor system?
[00:13] <bilz> my hero :p
[00:13] <chaddy> johntramp: yes
[00:13] <froq> so when is 11.10 due out?
[00:13] <chaddy> 10/11
[00:13] <edbian> bilz:  :D
[00:13] <edbian> bilz: Glad I could help
[00:14] <edbian> froq: in october
[00:14] <edbian> froq: in WX.YZ  the WX is the year and the YZ is the month
[00:14] <edbian> froq: Plus they always release every 6 months (april and october)
[00:14] <Guest46279> Hey can anyone help me with a problem with mp3s?
[00:14] <JamesJRH> qin: I've used GNU Ddrescue and Testdisk before, but if /dev/sda2 is busy and blocking, I don't think I can make an image.
[00:15] <chaddy> Guest46279: what's the problem?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> JamesJRH: What liveCD are you using?
[00:16] <Guest46279> I ripped my songs of of my iphone 4 using rhythmbox, but when I transfer them on to windows via flash drive it won't recognize it as an mp3
[00:16] <Guest46279> nor will they play on my ps3 off the flash drive
[00:16] <JamesJRH> Jordan_U: Natty.
[00:16] <chaddy> Guest46279: did you rip them as mp3?
[00:16] <Guest46279> yeah in ubuntu under properties of all the files it says it's an mp3
[00:17] <froq> I knew it was every 6 months, but I wasn't sure the exact months.
[00:17] <Guest46279> MP3 audio (audio/mpeg)
[00:17] <Guest46279> is what it says
[00:17] <froq> edbian, thanks
[00:17] <edbian> froq: sure
[00:17] <Guest46279> and the files work fine on ubuntu
[00:18] <chaddy> is the flash drive recognized normally on windows? ie is it formatted FAT?
[00:18] <JamesJRH> What is the 'cut here' on line 772 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/630579/ ? How do I see what has been cut?
[00:18] <froq> I wish windows had a built in VNC viewer.  stupid windows.
[00:18] <Corey> !ping
[00:19] <mgj> froq, just apt-get.... oh wait :)
[00:19] <Guest46279> windows recognizes the drive and i can put the files on to my win7 partition but no program will open the songs
[00:19] <Guest46279> it's like it turns into some other file type
[00:20] <froq> mgj, yeah haha... apt-get... o dang.
[00:20] <chaddy> Guest46279: not sure what's going on there, try installing VLC on windows and opening with that, at the least it should give some informative errors
[00:20] <Guest46279> ok
[00:20] <froq> any of you ever watched "game of thrones"
[00:20] <Corey> !ot | froq
[00:21] <froq> most amazing show! :)  BACK TO TOPIC now...
[00:21] <Jordan_U> JamesJRH: That means if you're filing a bug report you should include the text between  ------------[ cut here ]------------ and ---[ end trace 7393fc744199876c ]---
[00:21] <chaddy> Guest46279: another thought: it might be that you removed the flash disk unsafely from ubuntu and the files never had a chance to get written properly
[00:21] <chaddy> froq: watching the finale now
[00:21] <froq> is there any way to get Outlook working on Ubuntu?  I have tried Wine, but it didn't work.
[00:21] <mgj> Dont do it froq
[00:21] <mgj> Use a good email client instead
[00:22] <mgj> one which actually works on linux
[00:22] <Guest46279> chaddy: i can play the song perfectly of the flash drive in linux
[00:22] <froq> mgj, don't do what?!  use outlook?!  I want it for the calendar/ email combination, I don't like evolution
[00:22] <edbian> froq: I suggest using thunderbird
[00:22] <froq> mgj, what email clients do you recommend?!  I also need a calendar apps.
[00:22] <mgj> froq, Generally, microsoft apps dont work well in linux using wine. Maybe you like thunderbird better?
[00:23] <Jordan_U> JamesJRH: Can you pastebin the output of "mount" and "pgrep fsck"?
[00:23] <mgj> I use google for everything, cant recommend any im afraid
[00:23] <froq> mgj, i use thunderbird, but not calendar.
[00:23] <JamesJRH> Jordan_U: Ahh, Ok thanks.
[00:23] <Jordan_U> JamesJRH: You're welcome.
[00:23] <wrtpeeps_> hey guys. I just installed 11.04, I'm wondering how do I tell the "close, min and max" buttons to be on the top right of windows rather than the top left?
[00:23] <pLr> !vm
[00:23] <pLr> froq: ^
[00:23] <Jordan_U> !controls | wrtpeeps_
[00:23] <Guest46279> chaddy: when i click on file properties of the song in windows it says the file type is file
[00:24] <mgj> VirtualBox just to run outlook? Now i've seen everything
[00:24] <Guest46279> haha like literally it just says file
[00:24] <Jordan_U> wrtpeeps_: It might be a bit odd to have then on the right with the global menu though.
[00:24] <Spynxic> So I have a TB hdd, any suggestions on how big I should make the linux partition haha
[00:24] <cordell> What dell laptop is pictured on the ubuntu homepage?
[00:24] <pLr> mgj: its the most stable under linux
[00:24] <jrib> Spynxic: 1 TB?
[00:24] <froq> QEmu... gotta look @ that.
[00:24] <wrtpeeps_> ubottu: there a reason for that?
[00:25] <wrtpeeps_> oh
[00:25] <wrtpeeps_> ha!
[00:25] <wrtpeeps_> woops
[00:25] <wrtpeeps_> Jordan_U: is there a reason for that?
[00:25] <edbian> Spynxic: Make a 10Gb root, 1Gb swap, and the rest /home
[00:25] <mgj> pLr, i *like* virtualbox. But running a VM.... for an email application? Seems a bit excessive to me. But each to his own i guess
[00:25] <froq> mgj, it is so excessive.
[00:25] <JamesJRH> Jordan_U: pgrep fsck?
[00:25] <Spynxic> jrib: yes 1 TB
[00:26] <jrib> Spynxic: yes, make the linux partition 1 TB?
[00:26] <edbian> Spynxic: No!  Do what I said!
[00:26] <cordell> mgj: thunderbird?
[00:26] <JamesJRH> Jordan_U: mount hangs with no output and becomes uninterruptible.
[00:26] <Spynxic> edbian: lol
[00:26] <mgj> cordell, yes....?
[00:26] <chrisf> mgj: excessive, keeps the outlook safely contained though ;)
[00:26] <Spynxic> edbian: what is the 1 gb swap?
[00:26] <JamesJRH> Jordan_U: As do some other utils.
[00:26] <mgj> chrisf, good point :P
[00:26] <cordell> mgj: just suggesting an email application
[00:26] <edbian> Spynxic: swap is used when you run out of ram
[00:26] <jrib> Spynxic: I was assuming you were asking linux vs windows space
[00:27] <Spynxic> jrib: yes
[00:27] <mgj> cordell, oh, thanks, but im not the one that needs one. froq does
[00:27] <edbian> Spynxic: You  need one.  1gb is a good size.  maybe 2gb if you are an extreme person and do a lot at once.
[00:27] <jrib> Spynxic: yes, so give linux everything
[00:27] <lolmatic> how do i get gnome 3 on current ubuntu?
[00:27] <lolmatic> unity doesnt work.
[00:27] <Spynxic> edbian: 6 gb of ram already, although the computer has a crappy processor which slows everything down
[00:28] <edbian> Spynxic: Yes, certainly.  All of it should be used for linux.  All the harddrives in the world don't have enough combined space to fit both windows and linux
[00:28] <edbian> Spynxic: Then I think 1Gb of swap is more than enough (as if you'll ever use it)
[00:28] <jrib> Spynxic: 6gb swap if you want to suspend to disk
[00:28] <JamesJRH> Jordan_U: fsck http://paste.ubuntu.com/630588/
[00:29] <Spynxic> edbian: does the installer for ubuntu actually ask you the size you'd like to make it?
[00:29] <froq> why does sudo apt-get install lightning do nothing?
[00:29] <Spynxic> edbian: "it" being the swap
[00:29] <edbian> Spynxic: If you do it manually
[00:29] <Guest46279> anyone have any knowledge why my mp3s work on linux but when transferred to windows they are recognized as the file type: file
[00:29] <chrisf> Spynxic: it will do something sane by default, but iirc there is a 'setup partitions manually' option.
[00:29] <edbian> Spynxic: There are automatic options (like 4 of them) that don't bother you with the partitions at all other than 'next to windows' 'replace windows' etc etc
[00:30] <JamesJRH> Guest46279: Check if they have .mp3 file extension.
[00:30] <edbian> Guest46279: Do the files end in .mp3 ?  Windows freaks if you don't have the extension
[00:30]  * edbian more verbose for the loss
[00:30] <JamesJRH> Guest46279: Linux doesn't always seem to need file extensions.
[00:30] <Guest46279> edbian: haha thanks
[00:30] <Guest46279> yeah they were without the extension in the name
[00:31] <edbian> JamesJRH: It uses the magically file command instead
[00:31] <edbian> Guest46279: That's the problem.
[00:31] <Guest46279> edbian: is there any way to add .mp3 to the file names of all my songs without doing it one by one?
[00:31] <edbian> Guest46279: There are handy apps for it.  Or you could do  mv * *.mp3   in that folder
[00:32] <edbian> Guest46279: Just tested my bash bit there.  Doesn't actually work!
[00:32] <edbian> ha
[00:32] <Guest46279> haha
[00:32] <chaddy> for i in, etch
[00:32] <chaddy> etc*
[00:32] <cryptodira> anyone know why x-screensaver (when invoked) displays the the chosen module... while rapidly flashing??  10.10 amd/64
[00:33] <edbian> chaddy: probably
[00:33] <protoss_Z> hey
[00:33] <lolmatic> how do i get gnome 3 on current ubuntu?
[00:33] <edbian> Guest46279: for i in `ls`; do; mv $i $i.mp3; done;
[00:34] <protoss_Z> can any of you sugeest me a mildly challenging open source project to start hacking on? I'm going into second year of college and have a decent command of C, Java and Python
[00:34] <cogitorn> protoss_Z: nmap
[00:35] <JamesJRH> edbian: Apparently ls output should not be parsed.
[00:35] <robin0800> protoss_Z, rockbox.org?
[00:35] <edbian> JamesJRH: why?
[00:35] <Guest46279> edbian: thanks for the help
[00:35] <edbian> Guest46279: sure
[00:35] <Corey> edbian: You can get into trouble with wildcarding.
[00:35] <Corey> edbian: You want to use echo or find for that.
[00:36] <qin> protoss_Z: soucreforge.org have plenty of open project, and nem hands would be helpful.
[00:37] <JamesJRH> edbian: IIRC, It doesn't work on all files due to formatting. I was on #bash when someone mentioned it.
[00:37] <edbian> JamesJRH: I never know that!
[00:37] <sarkis> hey guys, where can I get some good info on screen?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> edbian: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#for_i_in_.24.28ls_.2A.mp3.29
[00:37] <edbian> Corey: thank you
[00:37] <sarkis> also, should i be using byobu over screen?
[00:37] <qin> sarkis: No! Use tmux
[00:37] <protoss_Z> anyone have other suggestions?
[00:37] <protoss_Z> sourceforge.net is intimidating
[00:38] <qin> protoss_Z: Why?
[00:38] <tensorpudding> protoss_Z: github is a better place to hack
[00:38] <protoss_Z> way too many choices. I need to narrow them down to manageable and somewhat challenging projects
[00:39] <robin0800> protoss_Z: rockbox opr
[00:40] <JamesJRH> edbian: /msg greybot ls
[00:41] <Spynxic> I'm about to attempt to install a dual boot between Windows and Linux, theres the option "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7" that I know will create a booter that lets me choose between which OS to start but that option doesn't allow me to customize the partition size
[00:42] <Spynxic> There is also the option "Something else" which makes everything customizable but I'm not sure if it will create the booter that allows me to choose between linux or windows
[00:42] <robin0800> Spynxic: yes it will
[00:42] <GSF1200S> anyone with an idea of how to fix the 30-second opening of thunar on 11.04?
[00:44] <lduros> hello, I have a big tv screen and when linux boots up with it, it doesn't display anything, because it tries to show a too big screen display
[00:44] <cryptodira> anyone know why x-screensaver (when invoked) displays the the chosen module... while rapidly flashing??  10.10 amd/64
[00:44] <lduros> is there a way to reduce this screen display size automatically? preferably with keys? :-\ I can't see what's going on
[00:45] <pooltable> help config the emu for pce so i can get my PS2 contoller to work?
[00:45] <Jordan_U> JamesJRH: Can you pastebin the output of "mount" and "pgrep fsck"? Exactly those commands, nothing more and nothing less.
[00:45] <JamesJRH> Any ideas with my partition problem? Can I start the LiveCD so that it doesn't even touch /dev/sda2 because that causes all other utils to block or say it's busy at best.
[00:45] <Spynxic> robin0800: I clicked the "Something else" option which shows me 3 partition in my hdd called sda1 sda2 sda3, all are ntfs. Where do I make a new partition for ubuntu?
[00:46] <mgj> lduros, dont know if there is a keyboard shortcut, but could you not connect the PC to a monitor (supporting the resolution), and then setup the resolution to be that of the TV ?
[00:46] <sec_goat> what would be the best way to get python 3.x installed and used for programmign instead of 2.x? I know a lot of ubuntu still runs on 2.x so I don;t want otget rid of it just wan tto rogram using 3
[00:46] <sec_goat> also please excuse my horrible typing
[00:47] <lduros> mgj: but won't it come back to the max resolution to the tv? I thought I had done that once already
[00:47] <JamesJRH> Jordan_U: Ok. pgrep fsck has no output, mount...
[00:47] <robin0800> Spynxic: it would be best to delete one and then create linux in its place
[00:48] <mgj> lduros, it shouldnt. It should maintain the resolution you set. But hmm.... it might. Stupid auto-detecting-resolution-algorithm which never works for TV's =/
[00:48] <lduros> mgj: hmmm
[00:48] <mgj> but that doesnt work in windows either, so i guess i cannot complain TOO much
[00:48] <pooltable> help set Mednafen.  to use my PS2 controller ???
[00:48] <JamesJRH> Jordan_U: mount http://paste.ubuntu.com/630593/
[00:49] <mgj> lduros, perhaps you could be ghetto, and SSH to the PC, and setting the resolution that way?
[00:49] <pooltable> help set Mednafen up a easy bash file to run it ?
[00:49] <lolmatic> how do i get gnome 3 on current ubuntu?
[00:49] <rww> !gnome3 | lolmatic
[00:49] <lolmatic> :(
[00:49] <lduros> mgj: sure, I could probably do that, what would I do through ssh for this? :-) is there a config file I can change?
[00:50] <mgj> ":(" means you are a wuss
[00:50] <mgj> real men use unstable software =)
[00:50] <robin0800> lolmatic: from a ppa but it will brake unity
[00:50] <lolmatic> well
[00:50] <lolmatic> does it break gnome 2? or can it be used parallel
[00:50] <pooltable> like any one like unity
[00:50] <rww> lolmatic: yes, it breaks GNOME 2.
[00:50] <lduros> I just chrooted in the ubuntu partition, let me know what I  can do to fix the resolution ;-)
[00:50] <keyboardtalk> I cannot access my printer on ubuntu from other (windows) computers on network. How can I fix this?
[00:51] <Spynxic> robin0800: sda1 is Windows Recovery Environment (loader), sda2 is Windows 7 (loader), sda3 has no label and it's the largest (986.1 gb). I assume it's the one I'm modifying, right?
[00:51] <mgj> lduros, probably. I would use the 'xrandr' command. But ubuntu desktop doesnt come with a ssh server installed by default, you would need to install the 'openssh-server' package first
[00:51] <mgj> lduros, but using 'xrandr' isnt really a permanent solution.... hmm.... At least it would allow you to see what is happening, and then use the GUI tools to set the resolution permanently
[00:52] <lduros> mgj: I'm using the rescue mode from the ubuntu alternate install cd
[00:52] <lduros> mgj: and chrooted into the ubuntu partition
[00:52] <lduros> mgj: I can install ssh from there
[00:52] <robin0800> Spynxic: check what is on it first but yes you could use that
[00:52] <lduros> mgj: or I could edit a config file with vim but I don't know which it would be for ubuntu hehe :-)
[00:53] <Gaming4JC> Hey guys, I just setup a limited user account, but the user cannot save stuff from programs to his homefolder. Keeps giving permission errors... how much and/or what kind of setting should I give him so he can not write up, but still r/w from his own user
[00:53] <mgj> lduros, for ubuntu, i have no idea. For any other distro it would be /etc/X11/Xorg.conf , but ubuntu is a bit strange
[00:53] <lduros> hehe
[00:53] <robin0800> Spynxic: stop I think that might be windows 7
[00:54] <lduros> mgj: what I could do, is do something like: xrandr -s 800x600  -- and put that to execute at startup
[00:55] <Spynxic> robin0800: Thanks for the help, I'm going to search for a tutorial to ensure I don't mess anything up lol
[00:55] <JamesJRH> Can I start the LiveCD so that it doesn't touch /dev/sda2? Any options in the F6 boot menu?
[00:55] <mgj> lduros, sure, might work. But hmm, think that would require X to already be running? Not sure, worth a try :)
[00:55] <Spynxic> robin0800: I wish I could use the automatic installer but it doesn't offer the option to resize the ubuntu partition
[00:56] <lduros> mgj: isn't there a way to use it after x has started?
[00:56] <qin> Gaming4JC: What is purpose of it, internet cafe?
[00:56] <keyboardtalk> I have HP printer w/CUPS on ubuntu server 10.04, I cannot access the printer from other computers on network. Any help is appreciated
[00:56] <Dougie187> Can anyone tell me where encryption passwords and keyrings stores it's data?
[00:56] <pooltable> help set Mednafen.  to use my PS2 controller ???
[00:56] <mgj> lduros, i believe ~/.xinitrc is used to specify commands to execute when X starts. But im not quite sure if you can make those commands execute AFTER X is started, or if they always execute before
[00:57] <Gaming4JC> qin: game server actually. I set up a limited user account for the guy to manage his game, but I don't want him owning the whole box :P
[00:57] <lduros> mgj: hmmm I can try
[00:57] <lduros> :-P
[00:57] <Dougie187> I guess it's called passwords and encryption keys.
[00:57] <mgj> have fun :)
[00:57] <lduros> mgj: thanks for your help! ;-)
[00:57] <mgj> Not really much help i could give you im afraid, but np
[00:59]  * Gaming4JC chmods some things :)
[00:59] <qin> Gaming4JC: Well, for server you can make jailshell, or just remove user from admin group so he cannot sudo, also (dirty way) you can monitor his home for file changes and revert it, if to large file or with no reason.
[01:00] <Gaming4JC> qin: ok :)
[01:02] <qin> Gaming4JC: Easy is to make username:root ownership combo for his /home, or better username:nobody
[01:02] <mgj> lduros, wait, im wrong
[01:03] <mgj> lduros, ~/.xinitrc is NOT called when x starts, as it is GDM that starts X, not your user
[01:03] <mgj> Could still try it, but i dont think it would work
[01:03] <lduros> mgj: for some super odd reason it found the right resolution right away when i started it this time
[01:04] <qin> Gaming4JC: And some commands (which you do not want him to run) just chmod down for others, but remember to add yourself to root.
[01:04] <lduros> didn't try anything
[01:04] <mgj> lduros, wow, the auto-detection actually worked? Amazing
[01:04] <Gaming4JC> qin: ok
[01:04] <mgj> thats great!
[01:04] <lduros> hehe
[01:05] <mgj> lduros, Can i guess? You booted the PC with the TV already connected this time. You didnt before, you connected the TV after the PC was booted
[01:05] <sLaeYa> is there any way to use eth0 for all incoming/outgoing except port 21 and wlan0 for port 21 ?
[01:06] <mgj> sLaeYa, i think iptables might be able to do that for you
[01:06] <qin> sLaeYa: listen on ftp, ftp config
[01:07] <lafon> umm my computer just got to grub with error ">grub-restore" cannot find "somefile"
[01:07] <mgj> That only covers the specific ftp application tho :)
[01:07] <sLaeYa> qin, thanks, that wont affect any local network though will it ?
[01:08] <Jordan_U> lafon: Please bootfrom a liveCD, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt.
[01:08] <sLaeYa> I have a local netwrok (which ubuntu rus as server on) I want to only have access to internet on ubuntu server via wireless and only for ftp
[01:08] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | lafon
[01:09] <lafon> huh... it just booted up normally and checked the disk.
[01:09] <lafon> is at 70%
[01:09] <MK``> and, whenever I reboot/log out and back in, the theme I have selected is randomly not applied to my gnome panel, it uses the default (ugly) GTK+ theme. Any idea what could be causing this? It doesn't seem to be related to me changing panel settings. Once the default theme is there, logging out and back in won't restore it, only a reboot will (sometimes)
[01:09] <MK``> and, whenever I reboot/log out and back in, the theme I have selected is randomly not applied to my gnome panel, it uses the default (ugly) GTK+ theme. Any idea what could be causing this? It doesn't seem to be related to me changing panel settings. Once the default theme is there, logging out and back in won't restore it, only a reboot will (sometimes)
[01:09] <MK``> er, sorry.
[01:09] <FloodBot1> MK``: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <qin> sLaeYa: You can set ftpd to listen on ip:port, with dhcp it looks more tricky, but you are on premanent lan anyway. Rest belong to firewall, if you feel need.
[01:10] <Jordan_U> lafon: After getting the "rescue>" prompt you rebooted?
[01:10] <lafon> yup
[01:10] <john_rambo>  Hi, I am using Geforce 9500 GT || Ubuntu 11.04 || 2 Monitors are connected to thr card 1 via dvi & the 2nd using vga cable ....Cant see any display on the CRT (VGA)
[01:10] <sLaeYa> qin, thanks ... I'm sending files to a remote server but I think I'll need to read a little more on firewall
[01:11] <Jordan_U> lafon: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[01:11] <lafon> no
[01:11] <bazhang> john_rambo, using xrandr ?
[01:11] <lafon> ok it finished and is in login prompt normally
[01:11] <lafon> its working as normal again
[01:12] <lafon> and thats the 2nd time this problem happened
[01:12] <Jordan_U> lafon: Please run boot info script anyway then (you can run it from the booted system, no need for a liveCD).
[01:12] <john_rambo> bazhang, I am using the proprietary nvidia driver .....xrandr ? dunno
[01:13] <lafon> ok give me a couple of min
[01:13] <bazhang> !xrandr | john_rambo this may help
[01:13] <qin> sLaeYa: also there is bind command, or binding method via bind.so (good for clients)
[01:14] <john_rambo> bazhang, Trying ...BRB
[01:14] <sLaeYa> qin, thankyou will look into that
[01:14] <qin> sLaeYa: Firewall on private lan (protected by router) is not really that important.
[01:14] <babalu> hola como estan?
[01:15] <billybigrigger__> anyone having problems with gnome-shell today?
[01:15] <bazhang> !es | babalu
[01:15] <bazhang> billybigrigger__, gnome3? from the ppa?
[01:15] <billybigrigger__> no, just plain jane repos im using
[01:15] <sLaeYa> private lan isn't my issue at all.  cisco firewall will deal with that.  It is just managing the wlan0 to handle any outgoing ftp transactions from ubuntu
[01:15] <bazhang> billybigrigger__, there are no plain jane repos for that
[01:15] <billybigrigger__> for what?
[01:16] <babalu> could someone help me plz
[01:16] <billybigrigger__> im saying i have a fresh clean install of 11.04
[01:16] <bazhang> babalu, with what
[01:16] <billybigrigger__> i don't use any ppas
[01:16] <babalu> trying to install a minecraft server on ubuntu 10.10
[01:16] <billybigrigger__> just the plain jane repos
[01:16] <babalu> im using a netgear router an clearwirelles ISP
[01:16] <babalu> I all ready forwarded ports in router
[01:16] <qin> sLaeYa: ftp will respect own configuration for in/out traffic, you cat monitor it with iftop.
[01:16] <qin> *can
[01:17] <babalu> but cant join whit my lop top on it
[01:17] <babalu> do I have to do something in ubuntu ?
[01:17] <qin> babalu: Start ssh server?
[01:17] <qin> babalu: Sorry
[01:18] <babalu> ?
[01:18] <sLaeYa> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
[01:19] <sLaeYa> is that what you are using babalu ?
[01:19] <qin> I think, I will get some coffee, mis readed last 10 posts, my sincere appologies.
[01:20] <babalu> sLaeYa
[01:20] <babalu> lol
[01:20] <babalu> yes
[01:21] <babalu> I followed some guides on the net on how to set up a Minecraft server in ubuntu and everything seems right
[01:21] <sLaeYa> and what is your output from that
[01:21] <johnnee> i hope someone can help me.. my 10.10 is no longer booting since i performed an automatic update 3 mths ago. Nothing i tried alone or with expert help has helped so far. Can someone pls help me? im using the live cd now to chat here and i can see/mount the install.
[01:21] <qin> babalu: On server: sudo netstat -tulp
[01:22] <jstoone> HI everyone, how do make so that I don't have to sudo all the time when I'm changeing things in /var/www? www-data: is the owner isn't it just enough that I added myself to the group=
[01:22] <qin> babalu: on (inside LAN) client: nmap -PN serverIp
[01:23] <qin> jstoone: Change permissions for group, or do it right and make yourself owner.
[01:24] <jstoone> qin: But if I make myself jstoone: the owner the web cannot see any pictures.. :S
[01:24] <FlashSmith> Hello everyone
[01:24] <FlashSmith> I tried installing something to ubuntu, but at the Ubuntu Software Center is said: libnspr4-0d (>= 4.7.1)
[01:25] <FlashSmith> What does that mean?
[01:25] <qin> jstoone: Really?
[01:26] <jstoone> qin: are you being ironic ? ;) I'm not good with permissions and ownership :S
[01:27] <FlashSmith> Anybody?
[01:28] <alnr> i'm running 11.04 and firefox4.0.1, i cant seem to get rid of the error 'adobe flash plugin has crashed'. I've tried flash-aid. is this a known issue?
[01:28] <jstoone> FlashSmith: that you'r libnspr4-0d has to be greater than or equals version 4.7.1 - not use
[01:28] <JamesJRH> FlashSmith: Try updating.
[01:28] <jstoone> FlashSmith: sure.
[01:28] <FlashSmith> updating? What does libnspr4-0d even mean? Sorry I'm new to this
[01:29] <qin> jstoone: Not, just sheer surprise, ok, can you give one line from ls -l in your web directory?
[01:29] <johnnee> i hope someone can help me.. my 10.10 is no longer booting since i performed an automatic update 3 mths ago. Nothing i tried alone or with expert help has helped so far. Can someone pls help me? im using the live cd now to chat here and i can see/mount the install.
[01:29] <JamesJRH> FlashSmith: It's a library. The thing your installing depends on it.
[01:30] <FlashSmith> How would I update that? I just tried installing chrome?
[01:30] <JamesJRH> FlashSmith: But it may depend on a newer version of it, so try updating.
[01:30] <jstoone> qin: sure!
[01:31] <JamesJRH> FlashSmith: Update Manager.
[01:31] <Gaming4JC> qin: hmm, the user cannot seem to access mysql still "connection refused" on his end, I'm seing a mysql.sock cannot open from this end. Ideas? :S
[01:32]  * Gaming4JC goes over the policy...
[01:33] <jstoone> qin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630602/
[01:33] <Dougie187> So, does anyone know where "Passwords and Encryption Keys" stores it's data?
[01:35] <Gaming4JC> Basically the user types "mysql" and gets...
[01:35] <Gaming4JC> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[01:35] <Gaming4JC> ??? :(
[01:35]  * Gaming4JC goes to get a snack in hopes of some one else giving a tip
[01:35] <qin> jstoone: sudo chmod 755 images (from same place you run ls)
[01:36] <bricas> my cifs share is messed up in ubuntu 11.04. It seems to be recursively mounted on itself. I can see the main directory list, but a dir list inside any dir gives the same list.
[01:36] <jstoone> qin: ah ;) I never remember if it should be 775 or 755 xD
[01:36] <qin> jstoone: Did your server displayed images before?
[01:36] <Jordan_U> bricas: Is Ubuntu the server or the client in this case?
[01:36] <jstoone> noeå
[01:36] <jstoone> nope
[01:37] <lafon> bootscript results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630603/
[01:37] <bricas> Jordan_U: client. i have a seagate goflex nas as the server.
[01:37] <ring0> how can i rebuild and install all modules controlled by dkms for the current kernel?
[01:37] <qin> jstoone: Well, 775 or 755 change pesmission for group
[01:37] <bricas> Jordan_U: FWIW, it worked fine in 10.10
[01:37] <Jordan_U> bricas: Can you pastebin the output of "find /path/to/mountpoint/"?
[01:38] <Jordan_U> bricas: Assuming the filenames aren't secret :)
[01:38] <jstoone> qin:  ah ;)
[01:38] <qin> jstoone: My way is (ower=me=full=right=7, group=nobody=noright=0)
[01:38] <bricas> Jordan_U: well, it won't go past the first dir...
[01:39] <bricas> sec
[01:39] <qin> jstoone: rest, for files=read, directories=read,execute
[01:39] <bricas> Jordan_U: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/114946
[01:40] <donkeyinspace> hello , im using a ubuntu live usb pen. how do i turn off unity , anyone know?
[01:40] <jstoone> qin: Lost me there ;) I'll go on ubuntu's forums and read about permissions ;)
[01:40] <jstoone> qin: Thank you very much mate (:
[01:40] <qin> jstoone: Better do: man chmod, man chown
[01:40] <Jordan_U> bricas: Did find go into an infinite loop or did it stop at some point? Did it give any error message?
[01:41] <bricas> Jordan_U: i cut it short after about 10-15 seconds. seems like an infinite loop to me.
[01:41] <Jordan_U> bricas: Can you pastebin the output of "mountpoint /media/goflex/Music/"?
[01:41] <bricas> Jordan_U: no error per-se.
[01:41] <bricas> Jordan_U: is not a mountpoint
[01:41] <Jordan_U> bricas: Or just post it, as it should be only one line.
[01:42] <jstoone> qin: Ah, thanks again (:
[01:42] <qin> Gaming4JC: No clue, what users have mysql?
[01:42] <Jordan_U> bricas: Can you pastebin the output of "stat /media/goflex/Music/"?
[01:43] <lafon> so after running the bootscript, is there any particular thing i should look for?
[01:43] <bricas> Jordan_U: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/114947
[01:43] <jstoone> qin: It works like a charm, thanks!
[01:43] <Jordan_U> lafon: Please pastebin it. I don't know what I'm looking for at the moment, but hopefully something will jump out at me.
[01:44] <lafon> bootscript output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630603/
[01:44] <qin> jstoone: You do not need (well maybe a bit) www-data group.
[01:44] <Monotoko> hey guys...anyone here know how to deal with a postfix "relay access denied" message?
[01:44] <[FKU]Greycloak> so...I upgraded ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04 and then to 10.10. Everything worked fine. Now I'm trying to upgrade to 11.04 and I keep getting a partial upgrade message.
[01:45] <donkeyinspace> hello , im using a ubuntu live usb pen. how do i turn off unity , anyone know?
[01:45] <Monotoko> donkeyinspace, log out and log back in again under the "classic" desktop
[01:45] <mrapple> just started up UFW, and trying to block an ip. ufw status http://pastebin.com/89P1bsq4
[01:45] <mrapple> 68.237.205.4 can still connect to my server
[01:46] <Monotoko> mrapple: iptables -A INPUT -s 68.237.205.4 -p tcp -j DROP
[01:47] <Monotoko> should stop them in there tracks :)
[01:47] <iaindalton> I'm trying to create an upstart script. I have it start on filesystem, but not all the files from an NFS share are mounted, so I have to sleep in a loop until they exist. Is there a better way?
[01:47] <mrapple> Monotoko: ok, but why isnt ufw working?
[01:47] <mrapple> and someone told me they use 'block ip reason'?
[01:47] <Monotoko> mrapple, I don't use it...I prefer commmand line
[01:47] <mrapple> im using the command line
[01:47] <Monotoko> 'block ip reason'?
[01:48] <mrapple> like typing 'block <ip> <reason>' into the command line
[01:48] <mrapple> probably a custom thing eh
[01:48] <Monotoko> mrapple, not sure...iptables is a lot more effective
[01:48] <Jordan_U> [FKU]Greycloak: How are you trying to upgrade? What is the exact error message you see?
[01:48] <jimi_> When I create a bootable usb per the instructions on the website, i get "can not find kernel image vesamenu.c32"   am i doing something wrong? or is this a bad iso?
[01:48] <mrapple> so should i disable ufw?
[01:48] <qin> mrapple: What service is it?
[01:48] <mrapple> and lets say i want to delete that rule...
[01:49] <mrapple> qin: they can still ping/ssh
[01:49] <qin> mrapple: install fail2ban
[01:49] <[FKU]Greycloak> Jordan_U, through update manager. Give me a moment and i'll replicate the error
[01:49] <donkeyinspace> Monotoko , im using an ubuntu live in an usb pen
[01:49] <Spynxic> When you manually install ubuntu, according to most tutorials I've read, you delete the partition you're going to install on but the partition i'm using is the place where everything I have is stored, by deleting it wouldn't I be deleting all my documents and programs as well?
[01:49] <Monotoko> donkeyinspace, doesn't mean you can't log out?
[01:49] <sarkis> hey guys when i installed this .otf font where does ubuntu put that?
[01:50] <sarkis> i want to uninstall it
[01:50] <mrapple> qin: ok, why?
[01:50] <sarkis> i opened a .otf file and clicked install
[01:50] <mrapple> and at first i thought that was an insult, but apt-get tells me its not
[01:50] <donkeyinspace> Monotoko , i can t log out
[01:50] <[FKU]Greycloak> as soon as i open update mgr it tells me that not all updates can be installed, and offers a partial upgrade
[01:51] <Monotoko> donkeyinspace, why not? Just hit the button on the top right and hit "log out"
[01:51] <qin> mrapple: That will ban host after number of failed attempts, neat way to reduce junk-traffic.
[01:51] <qin> mrapple: even better, change ssh listening port.
[01:51] <bfh198> uh stupid question which one is linux ? bash or batch , i just keep forgetting
[01:51] <mrapple> qin: ok, cool, but thats not what im worried about
[01:51] <bricas> Jordan_U: fyi, i've been mounting it via fstab, not that it would matter, necessarily?
[01:51] <keyboardtalk> How do you share a [CUPS] printer via command line?
[01:52] <donkeyinspace> Monotoko , there are no users in an ubuntu live cd or usb
[01:52] <qin> mrapple: Then what?
[01:52] <mrapple> qin: im curious how i would remove the rule 'iptables -A INPUT -s 68.237.205.4 -p tcp -j DROP'
[01:53] <qin> mrapple: Overwrite it with ACCEPT
[01:53] <mrapple> can i just delete it?
[01:53] <sarkis> hey guys where do .otf files get installed to in ubuntu? i want to uninstall a font i installed by double clickign an otf file and hitting install
[01:54] <mrapple> ah iptables -D
[01:54] <Monotoko> donkeyinspace...add a user?
[01:56] <keyboardtalk> How do I share a cups printer?
[01:56] <mrapple> Monotoko: the user from ip 68.237.205.4 can still ping my server after running the command you sent me
[01:56] <Jordan_U> bricas: Can you pastebin the output of "stat /media/goflex/Music/Music/Music/"?
[01:57] <Jordan_U> sarkis: Have you checked ~/.fonts ?
[01:57] <johnnee> i hope someone can help me repair/restore my 10.10 install which is no longer booting since i performed an automatic update 3 mths ago. Nothing i tried alone or with expert help has helped so far. Can someone pls help me? im using the live cd now to chat here and i can see/mount the install.
[01:58] <sarkis> ugh thanks
[01:58] <sarkis> Jordan_U: that was it thank you :)
[01:58] <Jordan_U> sarkis: You're welcome :)
[01:58] <bricas> Jordan_U: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/114948
[01:58] <glassresistor> im trying to clone a disk, i have two machines and both work when i switch out the same harddrive but when i clone the drive using ddrescue it gives afew pages of errors like DMA and loads with grub boot errors
[01:58] <glassresistor> the df command outputs the same thing except the clone is mising the swap drive
[01:58] <glassresistor> any idea what im doing wrong?
[01:58] <Chilaquiles> I installed Ubuntu, Windows and Debian on 2 diferent disks but I can just boot either Windows 7 and Debian or Ubuntu and Windows7 but not all three. I have been messing around with grub but nothing works sombody that can help me?
[01:59] <donkeyinspace> Monotoko , although you didn t help you deserve an A for the effort
[01:59] <Jordan_U> bricas: They have different inode numbers. I'm not sure if there's any signifigance to that but it's interesting.
[01:59] <lafon>  donkeyinspace, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10744544&postcount=10
[01:59] <p_res> Chilaquiles: can you boot into ubuntu?
[01:59] <Chilaquiles> p_res: Now I could
[01:59] <lafon> don't know how well that'll work (i don't have 11.04)
[01:59] <Chilaquiles> p_res: Im in ubuntu right now
[02:00] <p_res> Chilaquiles: boot into ubuntu and then sudo update-grub2
[02:00] <bricas> Jordan_U: also, fwiwi, i can navigate through the network/windows shares menu in nautilus and see the share contents just fine.
[02:00] <Chilaquiles> p_res: Not live-cd right_
[02:01] <Jordan_U> bricas: You should also be able to access the files via ~/.gvfs then as a work around. Can you pastebin your /etc/fstab/ ?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> s#/##
[02:01] <p_res> Chilaquiles: no, you're actual system
[02:01] <p_res> your
[02:01] <johnnee> what's up sarkis.. you woke up already?
[02:02] <devral> whenever i try to start 'screen', it replies with, "Segmentation fault" - what does this mean and how can i fix it?
[02:02] <bricas> Jordan_U: oh! interesting. thanks! paste coming a sec.
[02:03] <Stingray88> I just formatted a usb drive ext4 and now I can't write to it, what's up with that?
[02:03] <[FKU]Greycloak> Jordan_U, fyi i just ran apt-get upgrade and it seems to be making some progress
[02:03] <bricas> Jordan_U: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/114949
[02:03] <[FKU]Greycloak> i'll try the upgrade to 11.04 after it finishes
[02:03] <Chilaquiles> p_res: now?
[02:03] <p_res> Chilaquiles: what?
[02:03] <Chilaquiles> p_res: what should I do?
[02:04] <JAWC> mrapple, you might need to delete that rule, and insert it before any rules that allow what you're trying to block.
[02:04] <donkeyinspace> lafon , thanks , going to restart and see if it work
[02:04] <Chilaquiles> p_res: did you see the output?
[02:04] <p_res> Chilaquiles: nope
[02:04] <Stingray88> can anyone help me figure out why I can't write to my USB drive? The drive works perfectly fine with FAT32, HFS or NTFS, but when I format it ext4 with gparted, I can't write to it at all
[02:04] <Chilaquiles> p_res: I sent it to you on a prv msg
[02:05] <lafon> so why use ext4
[02:05] <qin> Stingray88: is it owned by root?
[02:05] <p_res> Chilaquiles: sorry i missed that, i'll take a look now
[02:05] <wildbat> Stingray88: cause it own by root by default
[02:05] <Chilaquiles> p_res: Im sending you the output again
[02:05] <Gaming4JC> qin: found out it's not a user issue, I cannot even access MySQL as root now. Something went a muck :(
[02:05] <Stingray88> this is why ubuntu is so frustrating... why would it do that?
[02:05] <Stingray88> I just want to use my drive
[02:06] <Stingray88> how do I make it not owned by root
[02:06] <Stingray88> so I can simply read/write and share it via network
[02:07] <devral> i keep getting a segfault error when i try to start 'screen' - how can i fix this?
[02:07] <kermit69> how can I add shortcuts to unity side panel please
[02:07] <qin> Gaming4JC: Ok, step back, what did you change? and does mysql restart did anything? local or remote access?
[02:07] <wildbat> Stingray88: chown / chmod
[02:07] <chaddy> kermit69: drag them there
[02:07] <p_res> kermit69: drag icon to it
[02:07] <kermit69> i mean a link to a ttxt doc, it wont stick
[02:08] <p_res> kermit69: only add launchers i think
[02:08] <Gaming4JC> qin: Well, I made the user a desktop user straight from Users and Groups. I was going through advanced settings there but opted to just let him be desktop user.
[02:08] <wildbat> Stingray88: like ~     chown -R $USER:$USER /media/TheDisk
[02:08] <Gaming4JC> qin: Once I did that a chmodded some of his directories back to his ownership, then rebooted the server. MySQL updated but was working fine prior to that
[02:09] <Gaming4JC> me thinks update caused a ghost bug, google reports the same
[02:09] <kermit69> so I make launcher to open specific file with say gedit then drag it there?
[02:09] <chaddy> sounds good, kermit69
[02:09] <utente> ciaoo a tuttii
[02:09] <p_res> kermit69: no, i don't think that will stick
[02:09] <kermit69> thx
[02:10] <p_res> kermit69: gedit launcher should stick, but not a created document
[02:10] <Gaming4JC> qin: This fixed it for me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=b378b688c10198dc6b4016e1a19ad0f8&p=4799712&postcount=48 :)
[02:10] <Gaming4JC> testing as normal user now.
[02:11] <qin> Gaming4JC: Neat.
[02:11] <BrianMBI> is there an upgrade here lately for Unity killing the -y of sudo apt-get install -y
[02:11] <BrianMBI> ?
[02:12] <Stingray88> so what kind of benefit does ubuntu get by default a newly formatted drive to be owned by the root
[02:12] <BrianMBI> something about a --force
[02:12] <Stingray88> that makes no sense
[02:12] <Stingray88> I formatted it, obviously I want to use it
[02:12] <kermit69> thx got it working
[02:12] <p_res> kermit69: what, the doc or launcher?
[02:12] <qin> Stingray88: How did you format it?
[02:12] <Stingray88> gparted
[02:13] <Chilaquiles> p_res: It worked! nice, thanks a lot!
[02:13] <keyboardtalk> How do I access a shared printer from Windows?
[02:13] <kermit69> the launcher opens the doc, and is now on the side panel
[02:13] <chaddy> good stuff, kermit69
[02:13] <glassresistor> the errors dd is giving me is like UNC and BDMA or something like that, had to lose the log, could two tb drives be of differnt size or could the cache size be a problem
[02:13] <p_res> Chilaquiles: no probs. glad you got it sorted. ;-)
[02:13] <p_res> kermit69: great!
[02:14] <johnnee> i hope someone can help me repair/restore my 10.10 install which is no longer booting since i performed an automatic update 3 mths ago. Nothing i tried alone or with expert forum help has helped so far.  im using the live cd now to chat here and i can see/mount the install. Can someone pls help me?
[02:14] <devral> i keep getting a segmentation fault error when running 'screen' -- how can i fix this?
[02:14] <Chilaquiles> p_res: although I see that now I don´t have any swap assigned to ubuntu, I had it before I installed debian, and I see I have the space reserved (it says swap space) but when I run top it says 0bytes. Do you know how to fix that?
[02:15] <robinsch> hi
[02:15] <Chilaquiles> devral: have you tried reinstalling the app?
[02:15] <p_res> Chilaquiles: debian and ubuntu should both share the same swap
[02:15] <Gaming4JC> qin: odd. The above page does fix it, but upon system reboot it fails again. Dunno what would be causing that.
[02:15] <robinsch> I need help with a startup script in /etc/init.d
[02:16] <lafon> johnee, is there any error or anything showing up when you boot?
[02:16] <NFischer> Hi everybody!!!! can anyone tell me how i can grep to a certain line ? for example: i want to grep from line containing "Summer" till line "Summer ends".. how can i do that?
[02:16] <Chilaquiles> p_res: well, I thought they had to have their own, so I created 2 swaps, but ubuntu isn't using any of them
[02:16] <robinsch> the config file is stored in a encrypted drive that is needed to run the program started in the init script
[02:16] <Spynxic> I'm partitioning my drive to install ubuntu 11.04 to dual boot with win 7. The partition I'd like to partition again to install ubuntu on has all my documents and programs on it. How can I avoid deleting all my documents and still partition it for ubuntu
[02:16] <p_res> Chilaquiles: only need one swap per system
[02:16] <robinsch> my home directory
[02:17] <p_res> Chilaquiles: regardless of how many linux system you have installed
[02:17] <robinsch> but the script has root owner and executable bits set
[02:17] <Blue1> Spynxic: use a different partition.
[02:17] <Chilaquiles> p_res: And do you think thats why Ubuntu is not getting that swap?
[02:17] <robinsch> I even the suid
[02:17] <utente_> ciaoooa tuttii
[02:17] <Stingray88> how do I take ownership of this USB drive from root
[02:18] <Chilaquiles> p_res: So are you saying Ubuntu doesn´t know what swap to take and doesn't take any?
[02:18] <p_res> Chilaquiles: just delete the non-used swap
[02:18] <lafon> jhonnee, use the public chat
[02:18] <lafon> johnnee*
[02:18] <Chilaquiles> p_res: Ok I will do that
[02:18] <robinsch> I am not sure if I have to move the config file out of the encrypted directory for the script to work?
[02:18] <Blue1> Stingray88: you would need to dismount it, and remount it - but those are sudo functions
[02:19] <utente_> !list
[02:19] <Stingray88> I don't know how to do that
[02:19] <Blue1> Stingray88: so for example if you did sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt -- once it is mounted you could just cd /mnt and accesss it -- to unmount -- sudo umount /dev/sdb1 (for example)
[02:20] <sarkis> hey guys how do i restart X after i modify ~/.fonts.conf?
[02:20] <sarkis> im trying to making my fonts look nicer in ubuntu
[02:20] <Blue1> sarkis: sudo service gdm restart
[02:20] <Stingray88> so wait
[02:20] <sarkis> http://superuser.com/questions/8824/bad-font-anti-aliasing-in-ubuntu
[02:20] <Stingray88> when I unmount it I can't see it anymore
[02:20] <johnnee> lafon: check PM pls
[02:20] <sarkis> i found that.. do you guys do anything with your .fonts.conf to make the anti aliasing look nicer?
[02:23] <Chilaquiles> p_res: Do you know if I can make that swap to be part of my ubuntu system?
[02:24] <chaddy> Chilaquiles: you may want "swapon"
[02:24] <devral> Chilaquiles: yes, i did an apt-get install --reinstall screen but it did not help
[02:24] <johnnee> my install is with windows XP.. when i try booting the laptop, i do get the list of options except the countdown timer is absent,  and windows works fine. But whenever i select any of the ubuntu entries i get all the way to the splash screen and as that's where the real problem starts.
[02:24] <lafon> so what's the problem
[02:24] <robinsch> solution: use virtualbox
[02:24] <chaddy> devral: did you try aptitude remove --purge screen? will get shot of any (bad) config files
[02:25] <sarkis> have you guys tried autohint via .fonts.conf?
[02:25] <Feadin> hey anyone using ubuntu server? Just did an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and it wants to upgrade language-pack-en which now suddenly has LOTS of crazy dependencies, including firefox and many X libs... anyone noticed this?
[02:25] <robinsch> just use windows nt
[02:25] <bazhang> robinsch, pardom?
[02:26] <robinsch> you can use vms
[02:26] <bazhang> -m +n
[02:26] <devral> chaddy: doing so asks if i wish to remove the ubuntu-desktop package :|
[02:26] <johnnee> my user name comes up but i have no field for the password and wehn i click my name it switches to ubuntu 10.10 and vice versa..
[02:26] <Chilaquiles> devral: Have you tried after you restart your ubuntu? Thay problem has to do with accessing an area of memory that doesn't exist or its only for system use.
[02:26] <chaddy> devral: you probably don't ;)
[02:26] <bazhang> devral, thats safe to remove its a metapackage
[02:26] <frank_> hello - first time on this
[02:26] <bazhang> !metapackage | devral
[02:27] <lafon> on the login screen type Alt+F1 type in your username and password
[02:27] <linus_> pulse audio seems to start fine with start-pulseaudio-x11, but when I try and open sound preferences in ubuntu. It say "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[02:27] <Jose> Hello, could someone please help me with JACK Control?
[02:27] <Feadin> I forgot to say I'm using v11.04
[02:27] <linus_> @jose just ask your question
[02:27] <bazhang> Feadin, you may also ask in #ubuntu-server if you dont get a timely response here
[02:27] <johnnee> i don't have a field for the password, are you saying that will make it appear??
[02:27] <robinsch> no one is helping me :(
[02:28] <bazhang> robinsch, with what
[02:28] <lafon> no it'll bring up the cli
[02:28] <Gaming4JC> Anyone know why " sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" works, but upon reboot I get "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" when I type "mysql"... ? :S
[02:28] <Gaming4JC> happened after some dumb mysql update *sigh*
[02:28] <Gaming4JC> need this fixed ASAP
[02:28] <Jose> OK, I'm having a problem that seems to be common, but I still can't find a solution to it
[02:28] <keyboardtalk> How does one access a shared printer (CUPS) hosted on ubuntu server 10.04 from Windows client?
[02:28] <GermainA> will ubuntu come with bitcoin built in?
[02:28] <robinsch> I am trying to autostart rtorrent (has executable bit and root privlages) but it won't read my settings because .rtorrent.rc is in my encrypted home directory
[02:28] <Jose> Hold on, brb
[02:29] <utente_> #ubuntu guard bot
[02:29] <Chilaquiles> chaddy: swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=17d748af-9906-42f6-897d-6141b3e3cf3f
[02:29] <robinsch> i am using /etc/init.d script
[02:29] <Gaming4JC> GermainA: doubtful, but you can install bitcoin via http://deb.tuxsoul.com  xP
[02:29] <Jose> OK, back
[02:29] <johnnee> also it might help to tell you that since that issue started, upon reboot, my computer displays an error mssg before booting any choice i make: "error: no argument specified"..
[02:29] <robinsch> the service starts but loads without my settings
[02:29]  * Gaming4JC tries to understand why mysql is NOT working >_<
[02:30] <chaddy> Chilaquiles: new to me, sorry
[02:30] <chaddy> very late, too, should be in bed ;)
[02:30] <izinucs> How do I put my computer to sleep via command line?
[02:30] <robinsch> see no one wants to help me :(
[02:30] <lafon> johnnee: follow the post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and paste the result in pastebin
[02:30] <pappa_bear_> google
[02:30] <lafon> might show you whats wrong
[02:31] <devral> chaddy: i did an apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop and byobu (the --purge said those 2 were broken), but now it shows ubuntu-desktop: Depends: screen but it is not installable
[02:31] <bazhang> !google | pappa_bear_
[02:31] <johnnee> and when i get to the login screen, i can't click on anything  except the UAP.. i can't even click the shutdown option icon and select shutdown or restart.. i have to manually press the power button.
[02:31] <robinsch> ok
[02:31] <bazhang> robinsch, be patient, could be no one knows the answer
[02:31] <robinsch> do you understand my issue
[02:31] <Jose> 21:30:45.179 JACK was stopped with exit status=255.
[02:31] <Jose> 21:30:45.179 Post-shutdown script...
[02:31] <Jose> 21:30:45.180 killall jackd
[02:31] <Jose> jackd: no process found
[02:31] <Jose> 21:30:45.589 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256.
[02:31] <Jose> 21:30:47.025 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for more info.
[02:31] <FloodBot1> Jose: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:32] <robinsch> should I move my setting files out of the directory?
[02:32] <bazhang> robinsch, using rtorrent and an encrypted directory you said
[02:32] <linus_> @jose are you using qjackctl?
[02:32] <robinsch> bazhang: yes
[02:32] <Guest14151> hi
[02:33] <bazhang> robinsch, certainly worth a try, I'm not using such a setup though so cannot say for certain
[02:33] <Jose> you know, this IRC client is terrible. brb agfain
[02:33] <robinsch> I can post the script if you like
[02:34] <lafon> anyone know why grub fails for no reason then reboots properly?
[02:36] <Spynxic> Using GParted to partition my hdd, when I click Resize/Move it only lets me move the bar 2MB...
[02:36] <robinsch> how do i do select all in vim?
[02:36] <robinsch> or in nano
[02:36] <qin> robinsch: Esc and v in vim
[02:37] <devral> even after purging screen and installing it again, i still get a segfault when trying to run it
[02:37] <qin> robinsch: or: yourtext | pastebinit
[02:37] <qin> robinsch: cat yourfile | pastebinit
[02:38] <aeon-ltd> Spynxic: it could be that you're using that space
[02:38] <robinsch> what is pastebininit?
[02:38] <qin> !paste
[02:39] <jrolland-ubuntu_> my new ubuntu install keeps failing to "wake up" from having it's screen locked
[02:39] <jrolland-ubuntu_> It only happens if I haven't used it in a couple of hours
[02:39] <jrolland-ubuntu_> It's an Acer desktop with Natty installed
[02:40] <jrolland-ubuntu_> I use it as a mail server so I **HATE** rebooting it
[02:40] <ohzie> jrolland-ubuntu_: tty screen locked?
[02:41] <robinsch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/630615/
[02:41] <jrolland-ubuntu_> No, it's a "desktop server": it's desktop Ubuntu, but I installed some server apps and made firewall exceptions
[02:41] <robinsch> the startup file
[02:41] <JoseP> Hello, can someone please help me with JACK Control?
[02:42] <robinsch> please tell me if anything is wrong with it
[02:42] <robinsch> any why it won't load with my configurations
[02:43] <wildgoose> JoseP, Ask your question.
[02:43] <JoseP> I'm having an issue setting up the sound server, or whatever it's called
[02:43] <JoseP> I'm putting a log up on PasteBin
[02:44] <jrolland-ubuntu_> Any guesses
[02:44] <JoseP> http://pastebin.com/nW0CwKLG
[02:44] <jrolland-ubuntu_> I really hate doing a hard shutdown - I'm afraid it won't start up again
[02:46] <JoseP> The question is, how could I set this up?
[02:46] <JoseP> I'm not able to create a startup DVD to put Ubuntu Studio on it...
[02:46] <qin> jrolland-ubuntu_: Can you check if it still have network connection?
[02:46] <qin> jrolland-ubuntu_: like ssh, or something
[02:47] <jrolland-ubuntu_> I already rebooted - I will try that from one of my other computers the next time it misbehaves
[02:47] <jrolland-ubuntu_> (I guess I should have talked to you guys the before rebooting :/)
[02:48] <qin> jrolland-ubuntu_: oh, what about having visit in /var/log/
[02:48] <jrolland-ubuntu_> I'll check
[02:48] <cntb> wow must say new terminal is a very nice surprise  /showing computer data communication OS data, very nice
[02:49] <cntb> byobu terminal I meant
[02:49] <acp_> hi I have already added 'options snd-hda-intel model=ideapad' in alsa-base.conf but still my internal mic in thinkpad edge 11 does not work any idea why?
[02:49] <jrolland-ubuntu_> I'm an idiot: at what should I look in /var/log/?
[02:49] <Spynxic> I found a post that said if you're unable to resize a partition with gparted then try defragging that drive and try again. True?
[02:50] <wildgoose> Spynxic, Worth a shot.
[02:50] <qin> jrolland-ubuntu_: syslog, messages, kern.log, Xorg.0.log, dmesg (with menu > system > admin.. > log viewer , is easier.)
[02:52] <qin> jrolland-ubuntu_: If you see error, or fail, or somethig repeats itself endlessly, you found it (also seg fault is a good hint)
[02:52] <jrolland-ubuntu_> ls
[02:52] <acp_> or do I need to update my kernel? Im using 2.6.32-32-generic ubuntu 10.04 amd64
[02:54] <jrolland-ubuntu_> http://pastebin.com/RqbFTnqs
[02:54] <jrolland-ubuntu_> That's a tail of /var/log/auth.log
[02:55] <jrolland-ubuntu_> Some things seem fishy
[02:55] <qin> Looks clean
[02:57] <jrolland-ubuntu_> http://pastebin.com/7EdThWij
[02:57] <qin> auth just show crontab activity and user elevation and logins
[02:57] <jrolland-ubuntu_> This also seemed bad from kern.log
[02:58] <Gaming4JC> I just dead a complete purge and reinstall of mysql. STILL GETTING THIS ERROR: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[02:58] <Gaming4JC> :(
[02:58] <qin> Do you have intel card
[02:58] <jrolland-ubuntu_> Yes
[02:58] <gabriele> dfdasf
[02:59] <jrolland-ubuntu_> It was supposed to be supported by this kernel
[03:00] <PythonPup> Howdy.  I found how to fix scroll bars in 11.04 to make them usable again.  Now, if I can find how to disable global menus, I'll be happy.  Any ideas?
[03:01] <qin> jrolland-ubuntu_: dmesg?
[03:01] <jrolland-ubuntu_> sure
[03:02] <qin> jrolland-ubuntu_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/507504
[03:02] <magyar> hi, where can i get libgtk-1.2.so.0 for 10.?
[03:03] <ser_> hols
[03:03] <ser_> hola
[03:04] <OerHeks> magyar, libgtk1.2 is verry old, but this may be an solution > http://titan2x.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/installing-libgtk-1-2-on-recent-versions-of-ubuntu/
[03:06] <magyar> thanks OerHeks, that worked
[03:06] <OerHeks> nice :-)
[03:06] <andrew_> know where to donload python26.dll?
[03:07] <OerHeks> andrew_, dll ?
[03:07] <OerHeks> a dll is no linux file
[03:07] <ants> Anyone here a full bottle on Xubuntu?
[03:07] <bazhang> andrew_, what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[03:08] <bazhang> ants full bottle?
[03:09] <ants> Knowledgeable
[03:10] <bazhang> ants, better just ask
[03:11] <ants> Ok, the top panel for the default theme, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Am I able to change the colour so it matches the window borders?
[03:11] <bazhang> ants, not sure, #xubuntu may know more
[03:12] <ants> bazhang, thank you
[03:13] <ninjah> Got a system with webmin on it. It was installed with the .deb file. Can't login. How do we change the password?
[03:13] <long> magandang umaga sa lahat
[03:13] <bazhang> !id | long
[03:13] <qin> ants: In NAtty? yes!
[03:14] <ants> qin, Yes, Natty. How do I do this?
[03:15] <wildgoose> I need a workaround for cpu scaling on a thinkpad with a bad battery.
[03:15] <qin> ants: on panel: right-click, panel > panel pref....
[03:15] <long4short> ohh yeah, good day to all of you]
[03:16] <qin> ants: You there? You should see window with title: Panel
[03:16] <ants> qin, OH! why didn't I think of that! Such a newb. Thank you.
[03:16] <Sundance_Kid> Anyone know why vidalia donwloaded from th ubuntu store doesnt work. It just crashes, the log says"Jun 21 21:15:08.633 [Warning] Failed to parse/validate config: Failed to bind one of the listener ports."
[03:16] <ants> qin, yeah you've just jogged my memory
[03:16] <froq> anyone know of a way I can add a thunderbird applet?!?!
[03:16] <zuko> #freenode
[03:17] <qin> ants: Tab: Apperance, Style: change to: Solid color
[03:17] <ants> qin, yup. Got it. Thanks.
[03:17] <wildgoose> zuko, try /join #freenode
[03:17] <zuko> aha
[03:17] <zuko> thanks
[03:19] <qin> Sundance_Kid: Did you configure it (no idea what vidalia is, tho)
[03:20] <Sundance_Kid> I was kind of wondering someone could help me set it up lol
[03:21] <userface> so i have lots of windows open in various desktops on Unity 2d.  how can i save it all and have them all open again when i log out / log in ?
[03:22] <Sundance_Kid> Actually nevermind I got it
[03:22] <Sundance_Kid> =)
[03:23] <qin> Sundance_Kid: From UbuntuForum: sudo /etc/init.d/tor stop
[03:25] <hypatia> qin / Sundance_Kid : sudo service tor stop should also do it
[03:25] <hypatia> easier to remember
[03:25] <qin> hypatia: To easy for fingers.
[03:36] <qin> In a museum in Havana, there are two skulls of Christopher Columbus,
[03:36] <qin> "one when he was a boy and one when he was a man."
[03:36] <qin> 		-- Mark Twain
[03:36] <bazhang> !ot | qin
[03:36] <qin> bazhang: Sorry too many aliases, mistake.
[03:37] <Roasted> How exactly does a software mdadm raid array work? I have a 250gb with Ubuntu on it and two 1TB drives in raid1 mirror. If I reinstall Ubuntu, would I lose my array?
[03:40] <wildbat> l
[03:41] <ser_> hola
[03:42] <puzo> need help on installing firefox 5
[03:42] <bazhang> !fx5
[03:42] <bazhang> puzo, ^
[03:42] <puzo> that was fast
[03:42] <puzo> tjhanks man
[03:42] <bazhang> np
[03:44] <Logan_> !es | ser_
[03:49] <KSHawkEye> What can I use to encrypt all of Ubuntu with AES?
[03:49] <KSHawkEye> (Disc/partition encryption)
[03:52] <myk_robinson> running natty with the 2.6.39 pae kernel. My ALPS Glidepoint touchpad is improperly detected as a PS2 mouse. Is there a definitive fix for this yet? I'm still Googling and it seems like a wild goose chase. Sure would like to be able to scroll with the touchpad :(
[03:52] <bazhang> 2.6.38.8.22 myk_robinson thats the natty kernel
[03:53] <myk_robinson> bazhang: I updated the kernel using a PPA. The problem was there in the previous kernel as well, though
[03:55] <mistermcfisher> hey
[03:55] <Lawlcat> hi, I've installed 11.04 on my computer, and I'm wondering if there's a way I can set it up to always boot into CLI? I'm using it as a server and the X window is just extra memory/cpu I don't need. I googled and only thing I found was to try "$sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove" but that didn't work... it's still going to the standard login
[03:55] <bazhang> !nox | Lawlcat
[03:56] <Lawlcat> huzzah
[03:56] <edbian> Lawlcat: Why didn't you install server edition in the first place?
[03:56] <Lawlcat> No particular reason
[03:56] <Lawlcat> :)
[03:56] <mistermcfisher> I'm having some trouble with grub, I have ubuntu 11.04 dual booted next to windows vista nd it says " Verifying DMI Pool Data......... error: symbol not found: 'grub_env_export'.  grub rescue>"
[03:56] <edbian> Lawlcat: server edition does not have a gui by default :)  (you could also uninstall gnome and gdm)
[03:57] <Lawlcat> Is there anyway I can just edit the grub entry? I need to hit E and type in acpi=off every time anyway to get the laptop to boot, might as well throw that in there as well
[03:57] <qin> Lawlcat: sudo vim /etc/default/grub
[03:57] <bazhang> Lawlcat, hold shift at boot to get grub menu
[03:58] <PythonPup> Lawlcat, edit /etc/default/grub
[03:58] <edbian> Lawlcat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[03:58] <mistermcfisher> anyone have info?
[03:58] <Lawlcat> Actually, scratch that all anyway. It won't boot with it set to text. It's sitting at * Checking battery state.... [OK] and is just chillin. Seems I have to launch X on this thing
[03:58] <edbian> Lawlcat: uninstall the ubuntu-desktop package
[03:58] <bazhang> edbian, thats just a metapackage
[03:59] <edbian> bazhang: Won't it get rid of everything else as well?
[03:59] <mistermcfisher> anyone?
[03:59] <bazhang> edbian, nope
[03:59] <edbian> bazhang: oh
[03:59] <edbian>  :P
[03:59] <qin> Lawlcat: Right, removing slpash from kernel option is good idea
[03:59] <bazhang> mistermcfisher, patience
[04:01] <PythonPup> Is there any downside to removing   indicator-applet-appmenu, appmenu-gtk, and indicator-appmenu packages?  In a quick test, removing them make Unity much more pleasant, but I wonder about subtle effects I have not found yet.  I am thinking about putting that as a recommendation for Ubuntu users in an article I am writing..
[04:02] <bazhang> PythonPup, removing the global menu and such? probably not
[04:02] <bazhang> PythonPup, far less usable though
[04:02] <PythonPup> That is my goal.  To remove the global menu.
[04:02] <Roasted> Are you not able to DD an Ubuntu ISO to a flash drive? I did it in fedora without issue, but its failing on Ubuntu's ISO
[04:02] <bazhang> indicator-applet-appmenu is it then
[04:02] <bazhang> Roasted, use unetbootin
[04:02] <PythonPup> The desktop is so much easier to use and quicker without the global menu.
[04:03] <Roasted> bazhang, that wasn't my question...
[04:03] <mistermcfisher> bazhang, sorry, got the upgradee breathing down my neck just kinda nervous.
[04:03] <PythonPup> Are you saying I really just need to remove indicator-applet-appmenu?
[04:03] <bazhang> PythonPup, thats global menu
[04:04] <PythonPup> OK, thanks.  I'd rather not remove anything extra  Thank you.
[04:04] <bazhang> Roasted, no, use unetbootin
[04:04] <Roasted> bazhang, thanks, but I'll wait for somebody who answers my actual question.
[04:04] <bazhang> Roasted, I just did
[04:05] <Roasted> bazhang, you gave me an alternative to what I'm trying to do, but what you suggested is not answering my question. period. but thank you for trying to help.
[04:07] <cromag> Roasted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles is this helpfull ?
[04:07] <cromag> or is that what you tried and failed doing ?
[04:07] <cromag> using*
[04:08] <bonixavier> when I try to mount an NFS share, I get this message: "mount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'servername:/home/music' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered" How can I fix that?
[04:09] <Carolissbliss> randomly, the bars for my windows go away
[04:09] <Carolissbliss> the borders
[04:09] <Carolissbliss> how do i restart the process
[04:09] <alex__> can anyone help with my key not uploading to the ubuntu keyserver?
[04:10] <bazhang> !gpgerr | alex__
[04:10] <Seven_Six_Two> bonixavier, have you allowed the clients access through the server's hosts.allow
[04:11] <Essay708> I'm trying to get WUBI to dual boot ubuntu but it doesn't work for some reason.
[04:11] <Carolissbliss> The borders for my windows just dissapear. no X button to close it, no minimize button, no way to move the window, the whole border just goes away randomly
[04:11] <Essay708> "no root file system is defined"
[04:11] <Essay708> is what I get when using WUBI
[04:11] <bonixavier> Seven_Six_Two, thank you. I was really stupid. I have an ALL:ALL in the hosts.deny. Thank you very much
[04:11] <wildgoose> mistermcfisher, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html#mozTocId842078 , search page for grub 2 recovery
[04:11] <Seven_Six_Two> bonixavier, np!
[04:12] <bonixavier> take care
[04:12] <Carolissbliss> Please helP!
[04:12] <PythonPup> Carolissbliss, rebooting should fix it.  Unity crashes every once in a while  It used to happen a lot, but is not very often for me now.
[04:12] <bazhang> !helpme | Carolissbliss
[04:12] <alex__> !repeat
[04:12] <Carolissbliss> it happens all the time, i cant reboot this often
[04:13] <Carolissbliss> how can i restart unity?
[04:13] <isk3ndar> unity as in unity3D?
[04:13] <Carolissbliss> PythonPup can i just restart the process?
[04:13] <PythonPup> Carolissbliss, I'd suggest you switch to Ubuntu Classic.  It is probably unstable video drivers.  Unity needs good 3d support.
[04:14] <Carolissbliss> I have the FGLRX drivers. They make the desktop laggy, but run games well. I bet thats the problem. but it happens in ubuntu classic to. How about "ubuntu classic (no effects)? PythonPup
[04:15] <Carolissbliss> but, using system monitor, is there a way to restart the process?
[04:15] <PythonPup> Carolissbliss, No simple fix I ever found would solve that problem.  When Natty was in Beta testing, mine crashed all the time and it was frustrating.  Ubuntu Classic(no effects) runs the desktop in 2d.  I would try that.
[04:15] <mistermcfisher> wildgoose, thanks but what do I do if I am live cd-less?  All I have right now is this computer that I'm on, the computer with the error, and a ubuntu 11.04 live cd
[04:15] <qin> Carolissbliss: Couple to try: compiz --replace , or: sudo service gdm resart (latter for whole xserver)
[04:16] <Carolissbliss> PythonPup, will do.
[04:16] <[FKU]Greycloak> was just going to suggest compiz --replace
[04:16] <Carolissbliss> qin, alrighty
[04:16] <qin> Was it right now sasl spam?
[04:16] <PythonPup> Let us know if it works, Carolissbliss
[04:16] <isk3ndar> good channel!
[04:17] <Carolissbliss> compiz --replace works
[04:18] <isk3ndar> I like the ubuntu-tweak for compiz enhances
[04:18] <victoria_> hello bloggen, i have just installed 10.04 and im trying to play super tux cart, but there is no picture, only the "frame".. and there is sound also.. anyone know how to fix that?
[04:19] <isk3ndar> Victoria I wonder if you have proper 3d setup, I'm listening in on some good tips for it here now
[04:19] <qin> !ubuntutweak | isk3ndar
[04:20] <isk3ndar> tux is one of the ways I would check fror 3d acceleration
[04:20] <isk3ndar> okay thanks for the tip, thought it was unusually helpful
[04:21] <victoria_> isk3ndar: Thanks, please let me know if you get good tips how to fix that :)
[04:21] <chiggins> Hey if I have two NICs, how do I "turn one off" and keep it from being used
[04:21] <jasongriffee> can someone guide me thru setting up my epson wireless printer?
[04:21] <wildgoose> mistermcfisher, Maybe this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB2
[04:21] <qin> chiggins: ifconfig
[04:21] <PythonPup> chiggins, ifdown eth1 is one way
[04:22] <nbros652> ANYONE: I have a friend who reformatted the wrong drive. I've recovered pretty much everything, but of course file names are lost. He's got A LOT of *.doc files. Is there a way I can read the first 'n' lines of a doc file in the terminal for use in a script?
[04:22] <chiggins> ah cool. thanks guys!
[04:23] <PythonPup> chiggins, If you want it off for good, you can use Network Manager and disable it.
[04:23] <Leofelix> hi
[04:23] <jasongriffee> can someone guide me thru setting up my epson wireless printer?
[04:23] <jsjgruber94> !gnome3
[04:23] <qin> nDR01d: fing /disk/ -name *.doc -exec head -n 1 {} \;
[04:24] <qin> *find
[04:24] <qin> nDR01d: Also, testdisk can help you to recover partition table.
[04:25] <qin> nbros652: ^^^^
[04:25] <Seven_Six_Two> I have an odd issue. when I play a vid in xine maximized, the window moves up and to the left. http://imagebin.org/159438 http://imagebin.org/159439 http://imagebin.org/159440  <<-- 3 screenshots in a row. It doesn't do it in kde with effects. It doesn't do it in classic desktop without effects. it doesn't do it when I get rid of my xorg.conf and only have one monitor enabled (with effects).  xorg.conf :  http://pastebin.com/B8p
[04:25] <Seven_Six_Two> yBk0N   /var/log/Xorg.0.log :  http://pastebin.com/pQq02ZzK  glxinfo : http://pastebin.com/N2xK05SZ    Running xine in a terminal doesn't show any error, and I've tried each of xine's video output drivers. some don't work, all others exhibit up&left movement.
[04:26] <nbros652> nDR01d: just got on, so I don't know what you've been asking about, but I've recovered a lot with photorec (not just photos) that I couldn't get back with testdisk.
[04:26] <nbros652> qin: tried testdisk... it was useless. It couldn't find the old partition
[04:26] <PythonPup> bazhang, In case you are curious, I actually had to remove indicator-applet-appmenu and indicator-appmenu.  Removing the first one alone still left the global menu.
[04:27] <qin> nbros652: Why nD comes befor nb with TAB????
[04:28] <nbros652> qin: what?
[04:29] <qin> nbros652: Are the files you want to read named .doc
[04:29] <alex__> Why does this pop up when trying to sync my key?? Couldn't resolve address: keyserver.pgp.com
[04:29] <nbros652> qin: yeah... basically I just want to compose a text file with the recovered name followed by the first few lines of a file.
[04:30] <nbros652> qin: simple script if I can get the first few lines of the .doc file
[04:30] <qin> nbros652: doc, do not contain test in first line, rather formating. but...
[04:30] <Gnea> alex__: pgp.com dns servers are offline
[04:30] <cntb> hi passed to natty today
[04:30] <sasquatchzorin> Anyone here used Debian and if so what did you think of it compared to Ubuntu>
[04:30] <sasquatchzorin> *?
[04:31] <nbros652> qin: I know. I want to know if there's a command line tool for reading .doc files that I can use to grab the first few lines.
[04:31] <cntb> in maverick had investment and temperatures near the clock
[04:31] <qin> nbros652: find /change/path/here/ -name *.doc -exec head -n 1 {} \;
[04:31] <brakus> Anyone from Miami?
[04:31] <cntb> how to have them back
[04:32] <qin> nDR01d: Sorry to wake up, TAB malfunction.
[04:32] <cntb> seems it works differently the widgets or what are they called
[04:32] <nbros652> qin: but that doesn't actually read the text in the .doc file. That returns junk from an ascii read of the file.
[04:33] <bazhang> sasquatchzorin, thats not really an on topic question here, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:33] <Seven_Six_Two> sasquatchzorin, I used debian for a long time, and I loved it. It's good, and stable
[04:33] <sasquatchzorin> bazhang: sorry :-P
[04:34] <qin> nbros652: well, yes, can you paste sample of any doc file?
[04:35] <kevinyoung> hi all
[04:36] <jtreminio> Hello all. how do I upgrade metacity to newest version?
[04:36] <nbros652> qin: can I add an attachment to the pastebin?
[04:38] <Malwyn> Hi folks, odd issue I'm having with 11.04, if anyone's around?
[04:38] <GridCube> i have no list of irc networks on empathy... why is this?
[04:38] <wildgoose> !anyone | Malwyn
[04:39] <Malwyn> er, okay? I have an nvidia 7300 pci-e installed, and as far as I can tell, the official, proprietary driver is installed and running. My desktop is not compositing though.
[04:39] <Guest48707> is there a plugin for exporting pdf from libraoffice or is that outside of foss?
[04:39] <dlong> I am trying to connect a ubuntu 11.04 computer and a 10.04 box via wired connection and can't get them to talk.  The network cables are connected via a switch, their link lights are on, ethtool says link detected and the ip addresses are 192.168.2.15 and 192.168.2.16, respectively.  iptables is off on both machines, yet they can't ping each other.  Any ideas to help?
[04:40] <PythonPup> nbros652, I don't know just what you are trying to accomplish.  a .doc file is a binary format.  If you are looking for certain text in the files, you could use unoconv to batch convert the files to text and then grep through the results.  Do this in a temporary directory, so you can throw it all away after you get your results.
[04:41] <PythonPup> dlong.  On the 192.168.2.15 machine, open a terminal prompt and type   ping -c 4 192.168.2.16
[04:42] <nbros652> PythonPup: thanks. that may work. I just want to grab the first few lines out of each doc file and create a separate reference file because when I recovered the files the names got trashed. If I can make a reference file, I can look at the first few lines to find out what each doc file is about without having to open each one individually.
[04:42] <qin> nbros652: Try catdoc, if this wont do, there is few php based scripts, or some in development
[04:42] <Seven_Six_Two> Malwyn, if you issue    glxinfo | grep direct   does it say you're using direct rendering?
[04:42] <teal> Ubuntu 10.10 extended desktop extends each monitor, is this the proper chat to post this issue, tks
[04:42] <dlong> PythonPup: like I mentioned, they are not able to ping each other
[04:42] <nbros652> qin: thanks. I'll give it a shot.
[04:43] <mistermcfisher> Hey, I am running super grub 2 from an ISO and I don't know how to actually install grub to the machine, any help is much appreciated.
[04:43] <PythonPup> dlong.  You said they could not talk.  I thought you might need to innstall
[04:43] <PythonPup> dlong.  You said they could not talk.  I thought you might need to install festival.
[04:43] <wildgoose> mistermcfisher, Maybe this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB2
[04:44] <PythonPup> dlong, So, do you have a router at 192.168.2.1?
[04:44] <widewake> --Hello ^^   I am trying to access my AdobeFlashSettings by right clicking on browser, however SETTINGS is greyed out, ive played with my flash plugins, i cant seem to get it to work..
[04:44] <Seven_Six_Two> teal, are you using nvidia? are you trying to get one big desktop? do you have "separate x screen" selected? can you pastebin your xorg.conf (if you have one) and your Xorg.0.log
[04:44] <wildgoose> !flash | widewake
[04:44] <dlong> PythonPup: no, I don't
[04:44] <Malwyn> Seven_Six_Two, yep.
[04:44] <Malwyn> followed by: "GL_EXT_direct_state_access, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord,"
[04:45] <Seven_Six_Two> Malwyn, which desktop are you logged in to? ubuntu (unity) or classic with effects?
[04:45] <PythonPup> dlong, Don't be mysterious.  What is your router IP?
[04:45] <widewake> -- i can access setting when i am on youtube, however if i am on a website like TinyChat.com where it uses a camera and mic i cannot access,
[04:45] <Malwyn> I've tried classic and ubuntu, with the same result.
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> Malwyn, have you run the compiz config to make sure some modules didn't get disabled?
[04:47] <Malwyn> ccsm?
[04:47] <Malwyn> I have not. hang on a tick.
[04:47] <tc_> hi
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> Malwyn, I believe that's the command
[04:48] <snowrichard> hi
[04:48] <Seven_Six_Two> I just realized that my applications menu broke... does the unity apps menu require zeitgeist?
[04:48] <hcook> howdy
[04:48] <wero> hola+
[04:48] <Malwyn> my desktop has... frozen. hrm. Am I looking for any options in particular?
[04:49] <wero> alguien me puede hechar la mano con un problema q tengo con los codecs de video
[04:49] <snowrichard> got the  11.04 running on this laptop but it doesn't support the unity interface
[04:49] <teal> seven_six_Two tks! I am not using nvidia. I am trying to get one big desk top. I am not sure where to find separate x screen is located.  I am using the preferences/ monitor utility.  This feature has worked for over a year, then Ubuntu was updated last week.
[04:49] <wildgoose> !es | wero
[04:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Malwyn, I experienced that earlier on today while trying to fix my xine issue. it has something to do with compiz I think. I kept getting errors about modules not loading. I couldn't move any windows, had no window decorations
[04:49] <dlong> PythonPup: there is no router.  these two boxes are just on the same subnet, that's it
[04:50] <Malwyn> opengl is enabled, so is composite
[04:50] <[THC]AcidRain> Connected to acidshower.com.
[04:50] <[THC]AcidRain> Escape character is '^]'.
[04:50] <[THC]AcidRain> 220 acidicmusic.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
[04:50] <[THC]AcidRain> why does this happen?
[04:50] <FloodBot1> [THC]AcidRain: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <PythonPup> dlong, so what does your routing table look like.
[04:50] <[THC]AcidRain> sorry for not using pastebin
[04:51] <qin> nbros652: Found one more, wvWare (going to test it, as soon as i will get any doc file).
[04:51] <alex__> Can anyone help me with signing the Ubuntu Code of Conduct?
[04:51] <qin> nbros652: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/52385
[04:51] <nbros652> qin: thanks
[04:51] <Seven_Six_Two> teal, I'm not sure how it works with other cards' config utilities. what chipset? how did you configure it before? I have dualhead but I don't use xinerama because it clashes with compiz, I use twinview with absolute positioning
[04:51] <wero> to play movies look bad and even install codecs
[04:51] <wero> problem persists
[04:51] <wero> help
[04:51] <nbros652> qin: don't worry about testing. I should be good to go from here.
[04:52] <dlong> PythonPup: there is a route for eth0 at 192.168.2.0/24.
[04:52] <hcook> ok, this is going to sound crazy. l have a dual boot machine which has always run great with win and ubuntu 10.04 and then 11.04. but i put 10.10 on recently, and it worked for a few minutes until i installed updates...then the network broke completely. i can configure static or dhcp, but my onboard gig-e nic won't even give a link light. and craziest of all, it no longer works in windows...
[04:52] <hcook> ...7!!! how could this be?
[04:52] <Malwyn> huh. so metacity was running, compiz wasn't. I tried compiz --replace, and now my screen is frozen.
[04:52] <Seven_Six_Two> hcook, maybe a change in bios, or your card failed? or a port on the router. try a different router port and a different cable or two
[04:53] <qin> Malwyn: Alt-Ctrl-F1 and login and: sudo service gdm restart
[04:53] <Seven_Six_Two> Malwyn, one monitor or two? have you created an xorg.conf for any reason?
[04:54] <Malwyn> one monitor. I'm SSHing in from another computer, doing most of this through that session.
[04:54] <qin> hcook: LiveCD?
[04:54] <Malwyn> I haven't touched xorg.conf, but a manual nvidia installation has.
[04:55] <dlong> PythonPup: any other ideas.  I am stumped
[04:55] <hcook> Seven_Six_Two: i've tried different router ports and cables. and the chance of my 6-month old onboard nic failing at the exact moment that my post-install (net-based!) updates finished seems remote.
[04:55] <jtreminio> How can I upgrade metacity to 2.34? Been trying to compile from source but I'm now stuck on "No package 'libcanberra-gtk' found" and I can't find the solution to this one :(
[04:55] <Seven_Six_Two> Malwyn, manual as in one was created by nvidia-settings?
[04:55] <Malwyn> Seven_Six_Two, yes.
[04:55] <izinucs> How do I put my computer to sleep via command line?  would it be sudo sleep now? kinda like sudo shutdown -P now?
[04:55] <hcook> qin: i installed from a livecd...but it worked after booting into 10.10 ...until i did updates
[04:55] <mistermcfisher> wildgoose, thanks but I'm still completely lost...
[04:55] <mistermcfisher> what is a UUID?
[04:56] <Seven_Six_Two> hcook, yes, that's unlikely
[04:56] <hcook> qin: the wild part is that now that nic doesnt work in windows either
[04:56] <qin> izinucs: sudo pm-suspend, or sudo pm-hibernate
[04:56] <izinucs> qin: cool.. thanks.. pm being powermanager?
[04:56] <qin> hcook: Died? Check in LiveCD. Is it laptop?
[04:57] <PythonPup> dlong, you probably don't have the nics setup right.  I am guessing, because you have not said much, that you setup static IP addresses.  You probably have the netmack or gateway wrong.  So, the NICs don't know how to communicate with other machines.
[04:57] <Seven_Six_Two> hcook, will it work if you run from livecd again? I can't explain why windows wouldn't work though. the only reasons I can think of are hw fail and bios.
[04:57] <teal> Seven_Six_Two. I am not sure what the chipset type is. Previously the desk top has been extended simply by clicking system/preferences/monitors/detect monitors/monitor on/rotation: normal/ show monitors in panel/apply.   Now  both monitors are extended, however 1/2 is out of view.  They appear as mirrored.
[04:57] <ilopez> hello?
[04:58] <qin> izinucs: I think of it as "Pause for Meal and reconsideration of my daily plans..."
[04:58] <ilopez> i have a problem with compiz can anyone help me?
[04:58] <kevinyoung> is there somebody in #hacker
[04:58] <dlong> PythonPup: the netmask on both is /24.  I don't have a gw set
[04:58] <flowbee___a> how do i determine temperature on ubuntu 10.04?
[04:58] <ilopez> anyone?
[04:58] <qin> kevinyoung: Me
[04:58] <kevinyoung> could you invite me
[04:59] <PythonPup> No gateway at all.  How do you expect to talk to the world, dlong?
[04:59] <qin> kevinyoung: Sorry, not
[04:59] <izinucs> ilon: ask a question
[04:59] <bazhang> !sensors
[04:59] <kevinyoung> qin: why  not?
[04:59] <bazhang> flowbee___a, ^
[04:59] <dlong> PythonPup: I don't care about talking to the world, I just want the two computers to talk, ping, to only each other
[04:59] <qin> Same reason ;(
[04:59] <hcook> qin: no, desktop machine. checking on the livecd
[05:00] <qin> hcook: lspci
[05:00] <kevinyoung> qin: oh
[05:00] <Seven_Six_Two> dlong, this is a switch, not a hub, right?
[05:00] <wildgoose> mistermcfisher,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID
[05:00] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: yes
[05:00] <Malwyn> hm. I'm going with unity 2d for now.
[05:00] <PythonPup> dlong, If you don't give your system a way for a packet to leave one computer, it will neve get to the other one.
[05:00] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: it is a switch
[05:00] <flowbee__> right after seeing : "Jun 19 14:17:46 BigArooni kernel: [1022455.780120] CPU0: Temperature/speed normal" ... my ubuntu 10.04 crashed.  current sensors output is: http://pastebin.com/EQdztyxB
[05:01] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: I tried just using crossover cable, that didn't work either.  So I thought that putting the switch in the middle would help
[05:01] <kevinyoung> qin: the room has how many people?
[05:02] <alex__> Can anyone help me with Signing the Ubuntu code of conduct?
[05:02] <qin> kevinyoung: Ubuntu? 1422
[05:02] <Seven_Six_Two> dlong, I've used a crossover successfully. can I see your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:02] <kevinyoung> qin: hacker
[05:02] <kevinyoung> ?
[05:02] <qin> No idea
[05:02] <Seven_Six_Two> alex__, it's on launchpad I believe
[05:03] <Seven_Six_Two> dlong, and the output of ifconfig
[05:03] <deathblade99> join irc.esper.net
[05:03] <RenaKunisaki> fail.
[05:03] <deathblade99> ikr
[05:04] <qin> deathblade99: /connect ...
[05:04] <deathblade99> yeah i was used to icechat on windows :/
[05:04] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: /etc/network/interfaces is not being used because of networkmanager
[05:04] <hcook> qin: shoot, sorry i didnt grab that lspci before rebooting to the livecd. its a realtek gig-e card onboard an asus intel board for an i7 proc. seems like real easy, compatible hardware. just checked out the bios and it's enabled and all...
[05:05] <kevinyoung> qin: do you have a facebook i have some question to ask you
[05:05] <wildgoose> yikes
[05:05] <bazhang> !ot | kevinyoung
[05:05] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: http://pastebin.com/2dLwuTgz
[05:06] <RazupX> there is itnunes 10.5 for ubuntu?
[05:06] <qin> kevinyoung: /msg qin <question> (fb do not do well for me)
[05:06] <bazhang> RazupX, nope
[05:06] <kevinyoung> ubottu: oh yeah
[05:06] <alex__> Seven Six Two They do want me to download it, so i have to cd into the directory?
[05:07] <bazhang> kevinyoung, please chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[05:07] <qin> hcook: It sound like hardware failure.
[05:07] <Seven_Six_Two> alex__, unless you are explicit about the path to the text file, yes
[05:07] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: http://pastebin.com/403E80ie
[05:07] <kevinyoung> bazhang: you a chinese?
[05:07] <bazhang> kevinyoung, please stop
[05:08] <Seven_Six_Two> dlong, now how about the output of route
[05:08] <hcook> qin: hmf. it booted back to the drive. the lspci shows it as "03:00.0 Ethernet Controller: RealTek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)"
[05:08] <qin> hcook: ifconfig ?
[05:09] <Guest56362> anyone else having trouble downloading updates for 11.04?
[05:09] <hcook> qin: you're saying the nic was fine, went and grabbed all the updates and immediately failed?
[05:09] <qin> hcook: This would indicate driver
[05:09] <RazupX> whats different between cd or dvd version ?
[05:09] <bazhang> Guest56362, earlier yes, tried changing server repos?
[05:10] <Seven_Six_Two> RazupX, the number of packages that can be installed without going to the internet
[05:11] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: http://pastebin.com/TpxstaSV  -  You will notice some routes for my wireless and my VPN, but they are fine and I don't think they should be affecting my eth0
[05:11] <RazupX> seven_six_two : when i open wubi i can't choose my dvd ubuntu.. its just downloading a ubuntu cd version
[05:11] <bsmith093> going from gpodder to rhythmbox, how do i import my podcast feds
[05:11] <bsmith093> all at once
[05:11] <hcook> qin: ifconfig looks perfectly normal, just without an addr cause it's setup dhcp right now. if i put an addr on it it shows it. says "UP BROADCAST MULTICAST" w/ a bunch of zeros on the counters and reasonable values everywhere else
[05:11] <hcook> gonna try to boot into the cd again...
[05:12] <alex__> Seven Six Two Thanks for the help, got it to create a new file, but im guessing the new file is encrypted cause when i open it, it tells me no signatures are found, even though i have a valid Key
[05:13] <hcook> oh, found my MB model as well. asus p7h55 ...that'd be an intel h55 chipset
[05:13] <Seven_Six_Two> hcook, while it's dhcp, have you run  dhclient eth0
[05:13] <alex__> Seven Six Two WHen i try to open with verify signature, it still says it cannot open it
[05:13] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: route for other box: http://pastebin.com/Bhtapmg7
[05:13] <hcook> Seven_Six_Two: no. i did disable/re-enable networking a few times, which i understood to run the client...
[05:14] <Seven_Six_Two> alex__, a previous error you posted mentioned a gpg-client or something. you have that installed?
[05:15] <Malwyn> hm. I can manually start unity, but it freezes.
[05:15] <alex__> Seven Six Two I installed Seahorse, which decrypts files, but i dont have the gpg-client, lemme check the software center
[05:16] <Seven_Six_Two> dlong, what kind of switch do you have? is anything else plugged in?
[05:16] <hcook> harrumf...network doesnt work in 10.10 livecd either
[05:17] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: nothing else plugged in...just a linksys SLM2008 8 port switch
[05:17] <alex__> Seven Six Two Seems like i do have a gpg addon installed for thunderbird for emails
[05:20] <Seven_Six_Two> alex__, sudo apt-get install gnupg-agent
[05:20] <Seven_Six_Two> dlong, is there any config required for that switch?
[05:22] <dlong> dlong: possibly.  That is why I tried using the crossover cable first.  Tried regular cable too, because my understanding is that you don't have to have crossover cable for most modern nic cards
[05:22] <Seven_Six_Two> dlong, I don't know about that. I know some switches can detect...
[05:22] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: possibly.  That is why I tried using the crossover cable first.  Tried regular cable too, because my understanding is that you don't have to have crossover cable for most modern nic cards
[05:23] <PythonPup> dlong, the gigabit standard says that ports must support MDI-X, or essentially automatic crossover as needed.  Many 10/100 cards do not support that feature.
[05:23] <alex__> Seven Six Two Let me Restart, even with that installed it wont decrypt the end of the message
[05:24] <teal> Seven_Six_Two. I am not sure what the chipset type is. Previously the desk top has been extended  by clicking system/preferences/monitors/detect monitors/monitor on/rotation: normal/ show monitors in panel/apply.   Now  both monitors are extended, however 1/2 is out of view.  Of what can be seen the two monitors appear as mirrored.
[05:24] <Seven_Six_Two> dlong, that switch defaults to 192.168.1.254
[05:25] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: I will take a look at the switch.  Thanks for your help
[05:25] <dlong> PythonPup: thanks for your help as well
[05:25] <Seven_Six_Two> teal, I'm sorry, I've never done it that way, and my menu is broken so I can't even try it. you can find your chipset by issuing lspci -v  at the command prompt.
[05:26] <Seven_Six_Two> dlong, http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-reviews/30226-linksys-slm2008-8-port-101001000-gigabit-smart-switch-review?showall=&start=1
[05:27] <PythonPup> Seven_Six_Two, Thanks.  I had not realized you could get the chipset that way.
[05:27] <anthony_alan> Hey, is there an easy way to make it so that pressing my middle mouse button and dragging will scroll using Ubuntu 11.04?
[05:27] <Seven_Six_Two> teal, there's another command too, I think it's  hwinfo     anyone to confirm?
[05:28] <dlong> Seven_Six_Two: awe, great link...thx
[05:28] <PythonPup> anthony, use the wheel to scroll.
[05:28] <Seven_Six_Two> dlong, np..hope it helps!
[05:29] <hcook> qin: Seven_Six_Two: doesnt work on 11.04 livecd either. dhclient eth0 gives me self assigned 169.254.7.237 with /16 netmask
[05:29] <anthony_alan> PythonPup: thanks, but that's not what I was asking :p
[05:29] <mascarijunior> ola
[05:30] <PythonPup> anthony_alan, Tell me more, then.  That is what it sounded like.
[05:30] <anthony_alan> the wheel is an inferior scrolling mechanism
[05:30] <PythonPup> anthony_alan, I agree.  I actually use a scrollpoint mouse.
[05:31] <gulzar> how to check if MONO package is installed or not?
[05:31] <arooni-mobile> i'm having trouble understanding: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower ... specifically how to install the power.d example script
[05:32] <anthony_alan> PythonPup: looks cool, never seen that type of mouse.  holding the scrollwheel down and pulling is supported in both Mac and Windows, I would assume that it'd be available for Ubuntu
[05:33] <Seven_Six_Two> wheel click and drag was available. not anymore. I don't know why
[05:33] <Seven_Six_Two> I'd be happy if ubuntu got multitouch on a synaptics touchpad like suse
[05:34] <DaZ> anthony_alan: opera has checkbox in options for that
[05:34] <alex__> Seven Six Two I can decrypt via terminal, but i cant seem to find a program to open it with, and when i paste what the terminal gives me, it says i have 1 error. lol
[05:35] <PythonPup> In mouse preferences, you can set drag click.  I don't understand what you want the wheel drag to do.
[05:35] <Seven_Six_Two> alex__, can you do the command again, but add     | tee output.txt    to the command, and pastebin that textfile?
[05:36] <gulzar> how to check if MONO package is installed or not?
[05:37] <Seven_Six_Two> PythonPup, if you push the wheel button (on some mice) in for example a long browser page, a circle appears with up and down arrows. move the cursor above the indicator and you scroll up, put the cursor below the indicator, and you scroll down
[05:38] <Seven_Six_Two> PythonPup, it's a lot easier than using a wheel over and over and over and over and over and over
[05:38] <arooni-mobile> after following http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_11.04_on_a_ThinkPad_X201 ... it appears as though i can *only* log in via fingerprint reader.  can i set it up so its password *or* fingerprint reader?
[05:38] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, check in synaptic
[05:39] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: is there any command to do so?
[05:39] <OverTheHillAndFa> anyone have an idea how to take a 1920x1080 h264 .mp4 file and export every x' frame to a new video file?
[05:40] <OverTheHillAndFa> kind of make a timelapse film from a regular film
[05:40] <PythonPup> Seven_Six_Two, It sounds like it would interfere with the use of the wheel as the 3rd button.  I don't see any advantage, since I use a scrollpoint mouse.  You just push the scrollpoint as long as you want it to scroll.  But, most people don't use those mice.  I don't think they even sell them anymore.
[05:41] <alex__> Seven Six Two WHen i do that, it creates a txt file, but there is nothing inside of it
[05:41] <Seven_Six_Two> PythonPup, it doesn't interfere if that's how it's supposed to be mapped. programs like blender that use it don't have a problem
[05:41] <EpicCyndaquil> hello, is there a specific channel for Ubuntu 10.10?
[05:42] <Seven_Six_Two> alex__, ok, try running    script output.txt    and then run your commands
[05:42] <PythonPup> OverTheHillAndFa, mplayer has options for that, I am pretty sure.
[05:42] <izinucs> EpicCyndaquil: nope.. here's good
[05:42] <Seven_Six_Two> alex__, exit when you're done
[05:43] <gulzar> how to check if MONO package is installed or not? And How to PREVENT its installation?
[05:43] <OverTheHillAndFa> PythonPup: hm ok thank you
[05:44] <EpicCyndaquil> Alright, I threw LXDE on my Ubuntu install, and I want to remove Gnome. I've tried using the first command on this web page (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekdemaverick.php), but it requires installation of packages that cannot be found. What should I do?
[05:44] <EpicCyndaquil> And yes, disk space is an issue.
[05:45] <gulzar>  EpicCyndaquil: I did similar think for replacing unity+gnome with XFCE.....but the system broke....and I have to install Xubuntu.....
[05:46] <EpicCyndaquil> I'm on 10.10 though, so there's no Unity. But why would it break the system?
[05:46] <mrdeb> 10.10 is good for you EpicCyndaquil ?
[05:47] <Malwyn> hey, just a followup to before, I managed to manually start compositing with the 2D-desktop-settings app.
[05:47] <EpicCyndaquil> Well, honestly, I don't feel like upgrading. I'm doing this on my cr-48, and I really don't want to deal with uninstalling all the extra bloat.
[05:47] <Malwyn> unity still freezes, but at least I have translucent terminals again.
[05:47] <ThePaRaDoX> mrdeb: when the full ver of 11.04 is released it will be available as an update?
[05:47] <mrdeb> EpicCyndaquil: stay on 10.10
[05:48] <gulzar>  EpicCyndaquil: might be beacuse to install DE we need only one command but to remove it a long list of commands is requried which is not much stable........
[05:48] <gulzar>  EpicCyndaquil: yup! stay on 10.10
[05:48] <EpicCyndaquil> okay, but can I remove Gnome? /:
[05:49] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, dpkg --get-selections | grep mono
[05:49] <EpicCyndaquil> again, that site presents a command to do so, but requires the installation of a few things that cannot be found (and I excluded the other desktop installation command)
[05:49] <gulzar>  EpicCyndaquil: yes you can..... not only gnome but KDE also but make a BACKUP first.
[05:49] <EpicCyndaquil> well, I have nothing to lose right now
[05:50] <EpicCyndaquil> other than time.
[05:50] <din> EpicCyndaquil: dpkg --get-selections|grep -i gnome will give you a good idea of what you have to uninstall
[05:50] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: nothing happened!
[05:50] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, then you don't have mono installed
[05:51] <kj_> Test
[05:51] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: fantastic........ now how to prevent it from installing?
[05:51] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, at least not through the package manager
[05:51] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, do you have to do it from the command prompt?
[05:51] <EpicCyndaquil> din: but isn't there a way to uninstall it all without going one by one?
[05:51] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: I am using Xubuntu so is there any default mono there?
[05:51] <Seven_Six_Two> EpicCyndaquil, there's probably a meta package for a lot of it
[05:52] <din> EpicCyndaquil: dpkg --get-selections|grep -i gnome|awk '{print $1}'|xargs apt-get -y remove
[05:52] <din> :)
[05:52] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: no terminal ./...........then what?
[05:52] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, you would have seen output if there was anything that has "mono" in the title. even if it's not mono
[05:52] <din> that will remove each individual package for your
[05:52] <din> you*
[05:53] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: in terminal there is no output...........
[05:53] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, ok, but are you in a gui? can you run synaptic?
[05:53] <EpicCyndaquil> din: even when I sudo, it's giving me permission denied...
[05:53] <din> EpicCyndaquil: run sudo su -
[05:53] <din> EpicCyndaquil: then run the command i posted
[05:54] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: yup XFCE
[05:54] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, oh wait. You can only lock an installed deb through synaptic.
[05:54] <EpicCyndaquil> ah okay, thanks din, that was going to be my next try :P
[05:55] <EpicCyndaquil> and now, I wait 43 minutes+.
[05:55] <din> lol
[05:55] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, I don't know if you can block an install, except by not installing it. and not giving out admin access
[05:55] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two:  not understanding ....... I want to check if there is any mono package or not. And not to install it in any case. How to do these two things?
[05:55] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two:  ok
[05:56] <EpicCyndaquil> I guess that's a side-effect of an atom processor
[05:56] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, ok,   apt-cache search | grep mono | less      will list all packages with "mono" in title but not install anything
[05:56] <EpicCyndaquil> Think it could handle Terrarria through WINE? :P
[05:56] <alex__> Seven Six Two Apparently a restart did the trick, got it to work with my text editor, thanks for the help man, i really appreciate it.
[05:57] <Seven_Six_Two> alex__, excellent!
[05:58] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, let me correct that:     apt-cache search mono | less
[05:58] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: it says that - E: You must give at least one search pattern
[05:58] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: ok
[05:59] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: it showed a long list
[06:00] <maum> hi
[06:00] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, yes, that's everything available with mono in the title. I don't know exactly what you're looking for. there are a bunch of mono libs
[06:00] <EpicCyndaquil> din: I don't quite understand why it's downloading/installing packages when it's supposed to be uninstalling
[06:00] <EpicCyndaquil> can you fill me in on that?
[06:01] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two:  sorry! I want to check the installed packages and not Non-installed....
[06:01] <din> EpicCyndaquil: maybe you had some unfinished installs prior to this?
[06:01] <EpicCyndaquil> nope, at least not as far as I know
[06:01] <din> that has happened to me before as well
[06:01] <Seven_Six_Two> gulzar, you don't have any installed...
[06:02] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: phewwwwwwww Thank God and Thank you!
[06:02] <maum> I see the message whenever I start ubuntu system : Could not apply stored configuration for monitors
[06:02] <gulzar> Seven_Six_Two: I now have to install monono to prevent its future installation...... :)
[06:03] <gantrixx> After I installed Ubuntu 11.04, I noticed that the X select-and-paste no longer works.  Is there a way to fix this?
[06:03] <ccarter> Hey guys, first time ever on irc - big ubuntu problem if anyone can help
[06:03] <PythonPup> OverTheHillAndFa, Particularly, you should look at the framestep filter in mplayer.
[06:03] <gulzar> ccarter: what?
[06:04] <EpicCyndaquil> din: looks like it's installing icon themes, which is confusing.
[06:04] <OverTheHillAndFa> PythonPup: thank again :)
[06:04] <ccarter> accessing wireless
[06:04] <ccarter> broadcom 4312
[06:05] <din> EpicCyndaquil: yeah that's strange. basically that command finds all installed packages containing the pattern gnome and runs apt-get -y remove on each one
[06:05] <EpicCyndaquil> what does the -y do?
[06:05] <din> doesn't ask you "are you sure" for each removal
[06:05] <gulzar> ccarter: explain.......
[06:05] <din> it just assumes yes
[06:05] <EpicCyndaquil> ah
[06:06] <gulzar> I have a d.php file (25MB). How to open it. and for what is it? I don't work with php.
[06:07] <maum> I got the message like this: Could not apply stored configuration for monitors
[06:10] <din> EpicCyndaquil: still going?
[06:10] <EpicCyndaquil> of course, ETA is jumping from days to 30 minutes
[06:10] <gantrixx> what is gpointing-device-settings?
[06:10] <EpicCyndaquil> no clue how long it will take din
[06:11] <din> is it doing an upgrade or something?
[06:11] <din> it really sounds like the system had some unfinished installations
[06:11] <din> a removal shouldn't take nearly that long
[06:11] <maum> I got the message like this: Could not apply stored configuration for monitors
[06:12] <EpicCyndaquil> yeah, it's installing SO MANY THINGS. now it's installing "python-kde4"
[06:12] <EpicCyndaquil> 41%. >.>
[06:13] <din> haha it's upgrading to remove
[06:13] <din> nice.
[06:13] <EpicCyndaquil> I'm not sure exactly how or why, but I suppose it's better not to question these things.
[06:13] <EpicCyndaquil> it's also getting a ton of 404s.
[06:14] <din> EpicCyndaquil: well once it's done, you can use the same command substituting kde for gnome ;)
[06:14] <home-alone> hi...is there any way i can get ubuntu with gnome 3....???
[06:14] <EpicCyndaquil> din: and then it will install gnome for me? ;P
[06:14] <din> haha
[06:15] <din> i have to take off. work in the morning.
[06:15] <din> good luck.
[06:16] <EpicCyndaquil> ffff, my router just restarted
[06:17] <PythonPup> OverTheHillAndFa, I tried mplayer -vf framestep=60 16-sat.avi   and it played the video, every 60th frame.  That may get you started.  I have never used that feature.  I am going to look at it some more.
[06:17] <kjafshlkjh23> anyone use an rfid reader/writer with ubuntu?
[06:17] <LUEshi> yo, my whole channel got klined what is up with that?
[06:17] <rww> LUEshi: ask #freenode
[06:17] <mrdeb> what happened
[06:18] <mrdeb> is every1 ok
[06:18] <LUEshi> i dont know lolz
[06:18] <LUEshi> everyone got klined but me
[06:18] <LUEshi> its funny
[06:18] <mrdeb> yes
[06:18] <EpicCyndaquil> note to self: never uninstall gnome.
[06:18] <rww> LUEshi: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. See #freenode for network issues.
[06:18] <LUEshi> ye i know i just figured the linux geeks with their 1.5k users would have an answer
[06:18] <LUEshi> or well thanks guys
[06:18] <OverTheHillAndFa> PythonPup: cool.. thank you.
[06:19] <OverTheHillAndFa> :)
[06:19] <josePhoenix> Hey all. A regular dist-upgrade seems to have killed my server. How can I get it to boot from a grub prompt?
[06:19] <josePhoenix> It drops to that after saying "No such device"
[06:20] <PythonPup> OverTheHillAndFa, mplayer -speed 24 -vf framestep=60 16-sat.avi   was more like what I think you want
[06:21] <teal> Seven_Six_Two  After upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10 the extend desktop feature in preferences malfunctioned here is the chipset info you requested The chip set is;ATI 9200 SE (chipset RV280, AGP
[06:21] <OverTheHillAndFa> PythonPup: i do not want to change anything but the frames. will this be written to a new file or do i have to add some export command?
[06:22] <gulzar> I have a d.php file (25MB). How to open it. and for what is it? I don't work with php.
[06:24] <bazhang> gulzar, why do you need to?
[06:24] <PythonPup> OverTheHillAndFa, you have to add something to have it save.  It is the dumpstream option, I expect.
[06:24] <bazhang> gulzar, is there some connection to ubuntu with this?
[06:24] <gulzar> bazhang: I don't know why it is there. and that too 25MB. Want info abt it?
[06:24] <gulzar> bazhang: I don't know.
[06:25] <OverTheHillAndFa> PythonPup: hmm. ok i am all new to this mplayer stuff :) this is where the source files is from: http://www.nrk.no/hurtigruten/?lang=en
[06:25] <rww> gulzar: you probably downloaded a file from a website that's not configured properly.
[06:25] <rww> gulzar: what's the output of 'file d.php' in the terminal?
[06:25] <OverTheHillAndFa> see the download tab down on the right side of the page
[06:25] <josePhoenix> How can I start going about making a system boot when all I have is a grub prompt?
[06:25] <gulzar> rww: Ok! then I will remove it..... no prob.... there is one more file with .php but 0bytes......
[06:25] <oconnore> so, in 11.10alpha, what is going on with gnome-desktop-environment?
[06:25] <gulzar> rww: thanks
[06:26] <rww> oconnore: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric questions, please
[06:26] <OverTheHillAndFa> it is a world record in direct sent TV
[06:26] <oconnore> cool
[06:26] <oconnore> thanks
[06:26] <OverTheHillAndFa> in time length
[06:26] <op_amp> Hi, I am trying to compile c++ source code which is in another drive, but getting permission denied msg. How should I solve this issue?
[06:26] <PythonPup> OverTheHillAndFa,  The download tab does not work for me.  I don't run javascript.  It is way to much of a security threat.
[06:27] <gulzar> one more thing.... I copied the .tomboy folder from /home. But now using XFCE so no mono. It is possible to extract the NOTES from it without installing Tomboy+mono?
[06:27] <PythonPup> I really enjoyed my trip to Bergen, though, OverTheHillAndFa
[06:27] <gulzar>  op_amp: check the permissions of that file. Right click>properties>permisions
[06:27] <OverTheHillAndFa> PythonPup: ok i see :) the site is norways national television
[06:28] <OverTheHillAndFa> quite secure i guess :P
[06:28] <rww> gulzar: What does using Xfce have to do with not using Mono?
[06:28] <PythonPup> OverTheHillAndFa, You can decide that for yourself.  I don't run javascript.
[06:29] <gulzar> rww: Xubuntu 's default installation is free of MONO and I don't want to install (Widows product).
[06:29] <rww> gulzar: Mono is not an acronym or a "Windows product".
[06:29] <OverTheHillAndFa> PythonPup: no problemo :)
[06:29] <dinkdink> gulzar: lubuntu-desktop is faster than xfce
[06:30] <gulzar> rww: but whatever is done by Widows ........is not Good for humanity and FREEDOM and I don't want to use them............
[06:30] <PythonPup> Mono is close enough to being a Windows product that I agree with gulzar.
[06:30] <gulzar> dinkdink: yup! but I want Gtk so went for XFCE. Dual core, 1.25GB RAM, 500GB HDD
[06:30] <rww> gulzar: What, precisely, does Mono have to do with Microsoft Windows?
[06:31] <PythonPup> gtk apps run fine on Lubuntu.
[06:31] <gulzar> PythonPup: Thank You!. I was just going to isntall mononono
[06:31] <dinkdink> gulzar: sah-weet
[06:31] <bazhang> gulzar, lets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:31] <gulzar> rww: not interested on mono talk. But it seems like you are a big fan......
[06:31] <bazhang> gulzar, thats enough.
[06:31] <OverTheHillAndFa> PythonPup: i am not able to test your suggestions yet because i am waiting for the file to be downloaded. i have a quite slow line here. but thank you very much
[06:32] <op_amp> gulzar, *cpp file, read and write both set to current user
[06:32] <PythonPup> Mono is a patent trap set for Linux by Microsoft.  My opinion, anyway.
[06:32] <bazhang> PythonPup, lets move on please
[06:32] <gulzar> bazhang:OK . But I was asking to extract contents from tombot folder and not to disscuss abt Mono.. ;)
[06:33] <PythonPup> OverTheHillAndFa, Good luck.  I have to go home now.  I expect you will need to tweak those parameters a bit, but you should have enough to get started.
[06:33] <OverTheHillAndFa> PythonPup:  yes thanks again
[06:33] <gulzar> Ok mono topic is gone. so my problem- I copied the .tomboy folder from /home. But now using XFCE so not interested in  mono. It is possible to extract the NOTES from it without installing Tomboy+mono?
[06:36] <acp_> is gyache still good alternative for yahoo messenger in ubuntu?
[06:36] <GD_> #ubuntu_cn
[06:38] <wrek-gar> is there a directory containing 'hotplug' in ubuntu?
[06:39] <Spynxic> I just spent an hour defragging my computer in hope I would be able to partition my C:\ to install ubuntu, but when I try to resize my partition the bar in gparted refuses to move. Any solutions?
[06:40] <dinkdink> Spynxic: which filing system is it
[06:40] <wrek-gar> is there a directory containing 'hotplug' in ubuntu?
[06:40] <Spynxic> It is NTFS, I'm going to dual boot between windows and ubuntu
[06:41] <jmcantrell> what's the file indexing service in natty?
[06:42] <dinkdink> Spynxic: you're using the most up to date live cd of gparted?
[06:42] <Spynxic> dinkdink: I have another partition on the same drive that is a NTFS format but it will allow me to resize it
[06:43] <Spynxic> dinkdink: I'm not using the gparted live cd, I'm using it from ubuntu (which is on my flash drive)
[06:43] <dinkdink> Spynxic: is the disk mounted
[06:44] <Spynxic> dinkdink: no because there are 3 partitions on the disk and 2/3 will allow me to resize them, but the 3rd won't move
[06:45] <Spynxic> dinkdink: one partition is the windows recovery, the other is the windows loader, the 3rd is all my documents and programs and the one i am trying to partition
[06:46] <dinkdink> Spynxic: i think i remember from the other day 15gb recovery 100mb loader and 480gb windows correct
[06:46] <Nexte> Bonjour; In OSX there is a way to configure applications to, launch and stick to particular viewports. How do I do this with 11.04? I tried devilspie but it appears to not be compatible with compiz (it appears to not support moving windows to the Y axis)
[06:47] <Spynxic> dinkdink: 13 gb recovery, 100 mb loader, 918 gb windows
[06:47] <Nexte> Also how does one make the same applications which were open, launch upon startup and in the same workspace position?
[06:47] <brown_fern> spynxic: When I recently defragged a Microsoft Windows XP system in order to resize it and make room for Ubuntu, in defragging, I had the third-party tool, which was graphical like the old first-party disk defrag tools of Windows, move all of the data within the Windows partition to the front of the drive. I then used an application from within Windows to resize that partition.
[06:47] <Spynxic> dinkdink: I should mention in gparted, beside the drive I'm trying to partition there is a red exclamation point. It's the only with that symbol though
[06:48] <brown_fern> spynxic: I believe that it is best to use Windows tools for a Windows issue.
[06:48] <Spynxic> brown_fern: I wouldn't be able to unmount the drive that is running windows to partition the drive that is running windows...
[06:48] <dinkdink> partition magic works nicely
[06:49] <Spynxic> brown_fern: Am I right?
[06:49] <rdav> I used gparted to move and resize win7 partition on a HP-mini before in installed Ubuntu in march
[06:49] <dinkdink> Spynxic: the software of partition magic i think writes your edits on next reboot etc.
[06:50] <Spynxic> dinkdink: oh ok, thanks. Guess I'll see you guys in a few minutes then to let you know how it goes
[06:50] <Nexte> How does one make the same applications which were open, launch upon startup and in the same workspace position?
[06:50] <blakez> sup?
[06:51] <acp_> can any one direct me to how-to to fix thinkpad internal mic using 10.04? I have added the option in alsa-base.conf but still did not work, do I need to update my kernel right now Im using 2.6.32-32-generic
[06:51] <op_amp> when I am trying to run output file of cpp source code I am getting bash: ./a.out: Permission denied error. I have set the permission of *.cpp file by using chmod a+x filename.cpp
[06:51] <blakez> acp_: sorry
[06:51] <blakez> can't help
[06:51] <op_amp> The cpp file is in another drive, ntfs partition.
[06:52] <acp_> thanks blakez, i'll just try to google it again
[06:53] <Nexte> Hello :D
[06:53] <Nexte> Anyone have any idea how to save running applications and positions upon reboot and restore etc.
[06:53] <wildbat> op_amp: cpp is't the executable file , you need to change a.out. but it is ntfs ~ you can't use chmod ~ remount it with executable mask or cp to /home then chmod and run it
[06:53] <demonspork> Quick: Best windows software to access ext3 partitions? I need to get some files off of it before I format it.
[06:55] <DarthCaitSith> I am having a very strange bug. There is a section on my screen where my mouse clicks don't work. (for instance clicking on a hyperlink in chrome, or on a directory in nautilus)
[06:55] <wrek-gar> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25676.html <- need help with step 3 (can't find directory hotplug)
[06:55] <DarthCaitSith> it doesn't change my mouse cursor when hovering either, its like there is some invisible window covering the spot
[06:56] <dinkdink> demonspork: your best bet is a livecd, mount the device and transfer via linux. i'm not aware of any windows reading ext3
[06:56] <rcconf> how can I undone? "apt-get build-dep vlc" ?
[06:57] <demonspork> dinkdink, I know that there are 5 or 6 different drivers/software to do it, I am merely asking opinions and if people have used any of them before.
[06:57] <rcconf> undo
[06:57] <rcconf> :)
[06:57] <gulzar> Hi!
[06:57] <thegladiator> how to install from cli ?
[06:57] <thegladiator> I mean update
[06:57] <dinkdink> demonspork: and i'm merely telling you i dont know
[06:57] <rcconf> thegladiator: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:57] <thegladiator> thanks
[06:58] <rcconf> there is apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:58] <rcconf> too
[06:59] <freefm> Anyone know what the state of hybrid graphics is in Ubuntu these days?
[07:00] <wrek-gar> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25676.html <- need help with step 3 (can't find directory hotplug)
[07:00] <dinkdink> safe-upgrade also
[07:00] <DarthCaitSith> is there a way to get a process number of a window by clicking on it (sort of like xkill)?
[07:01] <jmcantrell> what's the file indexing service in natty?
[07:01] <rww> jmcantrell: zeitgeist might be what you're looking for. I'm not sure :|
[07:02] <dinkdink> DarthCaitSith: if you know the command that started it you could ps -C command
[07:02] <jmcantrell> rww: ok. is there a gui for that? some way to query for files?
[07:02] <rww> jmcantrell: dunno, I don't use it. sorry :(
[07:03] <Blue1> !pastebin
[07:03] <jmcantrell> rww: thanks
[07:03] <DarthCaitSith> well i have no idea what command started it (or if there is even a window there) just a section of screen where the mouse isnt working properly
[07:03] <zngd797> nickserv identify androider
[07:03] <UbuBegin> hi, anyone knows when will Ubuntu update its repositories with the new Firefox 5...
[07:04] <freefm> UbuBegin: do you have backports enabled?
[07:04] <rww> !ff5 | UbuBegin
[07:06] <UbuBegin> rww, that looks like Firefox 4 ....
[07:06] <DarthCaitSith> well used xwininfo to get some info abot the section, and there is some kind of window there
[07:07] <DarthCaitSith> man xwininfo
[07:07] <zngd_bot> hi
[07:07] <bazhang> zngd_bot, hi
[07:07] <zngd_bot> testin
[07:07] <dinkdink> DarthCaitSith: did you try taking down your window-manager in services and putting it back up
[07:08] <rww> UbuBegin: perhaps when the aforementioned building is done, it won't. Iono.
[07:08] <bazhang> zngd_bot, try #test
[07:08] <zngd> zng_bot is testing his own irc client in ubuntu
[07:08] <bazhang> zngd, your bot?
[07:08] <zngd> it cant write strings
[07:08] <DarthCaitSith> not yet
[07:08] <syrinx_> get your own channel for that :c
[07:08] <zngd> with spaces
[07:08] <bazhang> zngd, dont test here
[07:09] <zngd> yea sure
[07:09] <UbuBegin> rww, :D ... kk, hopefully it doesnt take long... But roughly , u have any idea when FF5 will be updated... like a few days, weeks or months..
[07:09] <DarthCaitSith> not sure how to do that in ubuntu
[07:09] <rcconf> how can I undo "apt-get build-dep vlc" ?
[07:09] <zngd> jus sttreaming
[07:09] <zngd> :)
[07:09] <rww> UbuBegin: nope
[07:10] <wrek-gar> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25676.html <- need help with step 3 (can't find directory hotplug)
[07:10] <UbuBegin> rww, i just installed from FF5 frm the source... and there is no Flash .... :<
[07:11] <op_amp> wildbat, not sure where should I add it. Can you please see my edited fstab file http://paste.ubuntu.com/630670
[07:11] <DarthCaitSith> dinkdink, how do i stop my window manager (running natty with classic)
[07:12] <san> please helpme anyone when i enter username password in 11.04 it hangs i have to go to second option in grub there start in failsafe mode what do i do? even when running it says moniter unknown please help :(
[07:12] <dinkdink> DarthCaitSith: sudo service gdm stop
[07:13] <dinkdink> DarthCaitSith: and then sudo service gdm start
[07:14] <san> please helpme anyone when i enter username password in 11.04 it hangs i have to go to second option in grub there start in failsafe mode what do i do? even when running it says moniter unknown please help :(
[07:14] <DarthCaitSith> oh, i thought you meanty like metacity
[07:14] <DarthCaitSith> brb
[07:15] <foufis> hi,i just installed a new cd rom drive but ubuntu does not detect it..i see it in /media/cdrom. i cannot use it? any ideas?
[07:16] <dixa> r
[07:16] <san> please helpme anyone when i enter username password in 11.04 it hangs i have to go to second option in grub there start in failsafe mode what do i do? even when running it says moniter unknown please help :(
[07:16] <dinkdink> foufis apt-get wodim then wodim --devices
[07:17] <foufis> dinkdink:i did that and it`s there, also in dmesg..
[07:17] <Uzix> how to compile kernel?
[07:17] <san> SAD..... all buzy......
[07:18] <DarthCaitSith> dinkdink, that seems to have fixed it for now, but it does come back
[07:18] <dinkdink> DarthCaitSith: bad luck
[07:19] <dinkdink> foufis: what are trying to do with what
[07:19] <wrek-gar> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25676.html <- need help with step 3 (can't find directory hotplug)
[07:19] <Matt_799> anyone want to video chat? http://tinychat.com/redditchat
[07:19] <rww> Matt_799: Don't advertise here.
[07:19] <dinkdink> foufis: what is on the disk in the driver
[07:19] <dinkdink> *drive
[07:20] <foufis> dinkdink: i tried different cds (.iso,audio,movie) nothing works...
[07:21] <dinkdink> foufis: what's in your fstab
[07:21] <foufis> wodim :0  dev='/dev/scd0' but /media cdrom...how do i mount it?
[07:22] <dinkdink> foufis: sudoo mount -t iso9666 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom
[07:22] <foufis> dinkdank: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630673/
[07:22] <dinkdink> *iso9660
[07:23] <foufis> dinkdink: no iso9660 in cat /proc/filesystems
[07:23] <visitor1> i have files like this ABCD_part01.rar ABCD_part02.rar ... ABCD_part99.rar, how can i ls only ABCD_part01.rar until ABCD_part20.rar ?
[07:24] <dinkdink> foufis: what is on the cd
[07:25] <foufis> dinkdin:right now an .iso of fedora installation
[07:25] <cn28h> visitor1, if you're using bash: ls ABCD_part{01..20}.rar
[07:25] <rcconf> you wanna be my lover
[07:25] <bazhang> rcconf, wrong channel
[07:25] <rcconf> wrong channel
[07:25] <rcconf> xD
[07:26] <foufis> mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[07:27] <visitor1> hi cn28h , doesnt seem to work
[07:27] <wrek-gar> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25676.html <- need help with step 3 (can't find directory hotplug)
[07:27] <cn28h> visitor1, explain doesn't work
[07:27] <Kartagis> is there a repo that I can downgrade ff to 3.6.17?
[07:28] <foufis> suppose i wanna burn an audio cd, how do i mount it?
[07:29] <visitor1> ls: cannot access RM_01-page{1-20}*: No such file or directory
[07:29] <dinkdink> foufis: you don't mount a blank cd for writing
[07:29] <cn28h> visitor1, read what I suggested again - you didn't type it the same way
[07:29] <dinkdink> foufis: the burning software hits up /dev/scd0
[07:30] <visitor1> oh i see stupid of me, thanks :)
[07:30] <cn28h> np
[07:30] <foufis> dinkdink: oh ok..but how can it detect it? i go to brasero and says "insert a blank cd" (it is already in)
[07:30] <thekiller> hi
[07:32] <dinkdink> foufis: if it is a cd and you want to expand an iso on it sudo wodim -eject -tao speed=96 dev=/dev/scd0 -v -data /path/to/image.iso
[07:32] <Kartagis> foufis: use gnomebaker
[07:32] <wrek-gar> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25676.html <- need help with step 3 (can't find directory hotplug)
[07:33] <IAmError_> I'm having problems installing Eclipse C++. I do 'tar -zxvf file', then cmake, but for whatever reason make and make install aren't working.
[07:33] <foufis> Kartagis:a different burning software would make any difference? i usally use k3b but this is a fresh installation..
[07:34] <dinkdink> foufis: if it is a dvd and you want to exxpand an iso on it sudo growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/scd0=/path/to/image.iso
[07:34] <maahes> what command can I run to restart notify-osd?
[07:34] <wildintellect> Looking for suggestions on why networking/login on an LTS server might just stop (or where to look to try and find clues)
[07:34] <Kartagis> foufis: I had too many problems with brasero, until I tried gnomebaker
[07:35] <Kartagis> maahes: sudo service notify-osd restart
[07:36] <foufis> dinkdink: so i have to do everything via terminal? is there a way to fix it permanently? to mount eveytime i plug a cd in no matter what is on the cd?
[07:36] <maahes> Kartagis: danke
[07:36] <Kartagis> maahes: bitte
[07:36] <maahes> err....that's an unrecognized service.
[07:37] <dinkdink> foufis: i believe mounting drives is configurable in fstab but i dont remember what it is
[07:38] <foufis> dinkdink: ok i ll search in google, just wanted to know where to focus...thnx
[07:38] <dinkdink> foufis: but blank media you dont need to do anything but know where your device is unless using the graphical burning software
[07:40] <Kartagis> is there a repo that I can downgrade ff to 3.6.18?
[07:41] <Kartagis> maahes: try sudo /etc/init.d/notify-osd restart
[07:41] <foufis> dinkdink:many thanks for the clarifications .. :-)
[07:41] <beginer> i have'nt used ubuntu much, is it possible to use the effects of compiz in ubuntu by installing in a VBox?
[07:43] <rww> Kartagis: notify-osd isn't a service.
[07:44] <maahes> Kartagis: no such service in /etc/init.d/
[07:44] <zeng> perl and python, which is better?
[07:44] <celthunder> beginer: yes
[07:44] <maahes> zeng: yes.
[07:44] <beginer> celthunder, i dont know why, but it isnt working?
[07:44] <maahes> rww: got an idea of how to restart it?
[07:45] <Kartagis> zeng: depends on your needs
[07:45] <celthunder> beginer: did yo uenable 3d effects in the graphics settings and install virtualbox-guest-additions
[07:45] <rww> maahes: nope, I don't use GNOME so I haven't looked at it.
[07:45] <dinkdink> zeng: perl is faster than python
[07:45] <maahes> zeng: perl is faster, but python is probably easier to learn and doesn't have over 100 operators.
[07:45] <beginer> celthunder, oh, i did enable 3D, but i havent installed the guest-additiona
[07:45] <arooni-mobile> how come htop shows 4 different cores for the intel i5-2520?
[07:46] <beginer> celthunder, ok, i'll install that too and check
[07:46] <wrek-gar> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25676.html <- need help with step 3 (can't find directory hotplug)
[07:47] <rww> arooni-mobile: there are two physical cores. double that because of hyperthreading, and you get four.
[07:47] <arooni-mobile> rww, what is hyper threading
[07:48] <rww> arooni-mobile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthreading
[07:48] <Satisfied> anybody know if its possible to control a youtube video (pause/play) with the keyboard ?
[07:48] <k5220> rww 5+ Re5ct!
[07:49] <wrek-gar> does anyone know how to find the directory "hotplug"
[07:52] <dinkdink> wrek-gar: sudo find / -name 'hotplug'
[07:52] <dinkdink> wrek-gar: or whereis hotplug
[07:53] <wrek-gar> dinkdink: have you ever used hostapd?
[07:53] <dinkdink> wrek-gar: no sir
[07:53] <dinkdink> wrek-gar: have you?
[07:55] <wrek-gar> trying to get it working but keep getting this error: Line 18: invalid/unknown driver 'prism2_usb'
[07:55] <dinkdink> wrek-gar: did you try to modprobe it
[07:56] <wrek-gar> there are instructions on how to get the driver working but it involves working with a directory in hotplug, but it's not listed in the same directory as the instructions
[07:57] <maahes> grr. I pkilled notify-osd and now notifications don't work -_-
[07:57] <wrek-gar> to be more clear; the goal is to create a wireless access point via usb wifi adapter, the adapter is working. it detects local access points
[07:58] <wrek-gar> ad hoc doesn't work- wifi starts for a moment then disconnects
[07:59] <wrek-gar> trying to get hostapd to work but it complains about the driver
[08:01] <dinkdink> wrek-gar: been a while since i messed around with wifi, what happens if you iwconfig wlan0 mode Ad-Hoc
[08:03] <wrek-gar> nothing happens
[08:03] <yell05Ark> hi
[08:05] <olewolf> Hi. I've received a personal certificate (from a national certificate authority) that I supposedly can use to sign mail. However, it's in a binary .crt format. In Windows, I can double-click it, but how do I install it in Evolution on Ubuntu? (Evolution seems to think it's in PKCS12 format and fails to import it.)
[08:05] <Spynxic> I finally got my hdd partition correctly and now running ubuntu from it, thanks everyone that helped out
[08:05] <Kartagis> do you guys know of a graphical broken link sleuth?
[08:06] <Kartagis> olewolf: you may need to convert it to PKSC12 format
[08:06] <zeng_> Is there  a irc server about linux programming?
[08:06] <olewolf> Kartagis: Any idea how to do that? I played around a bit with openssl, but I don't really know how to use it, and my best effort only yielded a couple of error messages and an empty output file.
[08:07] <Kartagis> olewolf: https://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-converter.html
[08:07] <olewolf> kartofl:  Is that safe?
[08:07] <Kartagis> zeng_: you mean channel, right?
[08:07] <zeng_> yes
[08:07] <olewolf> Oops.
[08:07] <olewolf> Kartagis: is that web site safe?
[08:07] <airtonix> android phone as a music player, banshee, rhythmbox or clementine (or other) for music sync?
[08:08] <beginer> celthunder, i have installed guest additions, but still i am not able to get effects of compiz
[08:08] <Kartagis> olewolf: http://www.sslshopper.com/article-most-common-openssl-commands.html read this instead
[08:08] <dinkdink> Spynxic: in the end what worked
[08:08] <Kartagis> zeng_: go to the language channel, for example #perl
[08:08] <Linux369> what is the best flight simulator for linux?
[08:09] <Linux369> I dont mind flightgear...... because dont work in my ati card....
[08:09] <Spynxic> dinkdink: Partitioning using Windows rather than using gparted in ubuntu, then just booting from the flash drive and automatic install took care of the rest
[08:10] <olewolf> kartagis: I already tried those conversions. I only have the .crt file, not any password files or other. (I ought to have the password file, yes, but the certificate issuer is warped in that respect. It generates my password for me. This is fundamentally flawed, but let's not get into that discussion.)
[08:11] <Kartagis> olewolf: I advise you to do everything yourself
[08:11] <damian> Should I go somewhere else for Wine problems?
[08:11] <Kartagis> !ask | damian
[08:12] <Linux369> no answer... :(((((
[08:12] <damian> I complain about that all the time :D
[08:12] <olewolf> Kartagis: Well, how? (The issuer is a national single point of failure, but I can't change that.)
[08:12] <wildgoose> !best | Linux369
[08:12] <damian> But that wasn't really asking to ask a question :/
[08:13] <Kartagis> olewolf: the link I gave you explains it
[08:13] <Kartagis> damian: ask your question already
[08:13] <tsaknorris> if i want to install or remove app from multiple linuxies how i will do it?
[08:13] <olewolf> Kartagis: I already tried to follow the conversions on that link, and I can't get it to work. Probably because I don't own the private key, but still: If Windows can import a .crt file, certainly somehow Linux can do it, too.
[08:14] <damian> Oh yes, right... I can load Notepad++ using Wine but don't appear able to load Steam or Guild Wars.
[08:14] <Kartagis> olewolf: use thunderbird?
[08:14] <olewolf> Kartagis: As in, permanently instead of Evolution?
[08:14] <Kartagis> damian: what are steam and guild wars?
[08:14] <Linux369> its just a question.... the best flight simulator for linux....
[08:15] <beginer> celthunder, i have installed guest additions, but still i am not able to get effects of compiz
[08:15] <Kartagis> olewolf: at least until you figure out how to create your own certificate
[08:15] <damian> I thought it was because I was using symlinks but doing a new prefix on the same partition didn't fix it.
[08:15] <antodaniel> Hi. This is Just a test msg
[08:16] <rcconf> antodaniel: lol
[08:16] <olewolf> Kartagis: I know how to create my own certificate. I have one using CAcert as authority. But I don't own my country, and I can't change the way our national issuer work, so creating my own certificate is *not an option*.
[08:17] <tsaknorris> lets say i have 20 pc's on my LAN and all have identical hardware and same os (linux). How i can install one app to all of the at once
[08:17] <damian> Steam is a distribution client for games and Guild Wars is an MMORPG. They both worked on my previous installs.
[08:17] <wildgoose> !best | Linux369
[08:19] <rcconf> !favorite
[08:19] <rcconf> favorite != best
[08:19] <tsaknorris> i have done some thinking, if i have ssh connection all of them i can do FOR loop what with sudo apt-get to install or remove app from them :)
[08:19] <tsaknorris> but is there other way?
[08:19] <beginer> i have'nt used ubuntu much, is it possible to use the effects of compiz in ubuntu by installing it in a VBox?
[08:20] <bazhang> beginer, doubt it
[08:20] <anniex> hello
[08:21] <damian> boo
[08:22] <D3JAVU> who can say name of the fast linux who grub litll ram
[08:22] <tsaknorris> but first i have to go install manually ssh servers to pc's so i can connect to them one by one...plaah there has to be other way :)
[08:22] <antodaniel> Hi. This is just a test msg
[08:22] <beginer> bazhang, i think it isnt possible
[08:22] <bazhang> D3JAVU, this is ubuntu support try ##linux
[08:23] <tsaknorris> dejavu? you want fast linux? lubuntu :P
[08:23] <bazhang> antodaniel, stop that
[08:23] <AndroidLoverInSF> anyone notice in acrobat, you can select text and try to copy. but sometimes nothing gets copied?
[08:23] <antodaniel> ok boss
[08:23] <D3JAVU> faster then lubuntu
[08:23] <bazhang> beginer, try in #vbox perhaps
[08:23] <tsaknorris> puppy or damn small linux
[08:23] <bazhang> D3JAVU, minimal iso no x server
[08:24] <beginer> bazhang, yes i have..... hehe thanks
[08:25] <D3JAVU> thanks. fore puppy i heare about it
[08:25] <D3JAVU> now i wont to test slitaz or teeny core .
[08:25] <bazhang> D3JAVU, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic this is for ubuntu tech support
[08:25] <D3JAVU> ok
[08:25] <dinkdink> AndroidLoverInSF: some of the software i use i have to select text then shift+insert to paste it
[08:27] <wildgoose> AndroidLoverInSF, ^^ or CTRL+SHIFT+C
[08:27] <damian> I tried doing "metacity --replace" for my wine problem, no change
[08:27] <tsaknorris> can i connect other ubuntus in my lan with standard apps....so if i would have 1000 ubuntus in my lan i wouldnt have to first install some client to them before i can connect and install app
[08:28] <damian> I think you can just do sshfs?
[08:28] <damian> or possibly just network folder
[08:28] <tsaknorris> hmm
[08:29] <coolmadmax> I think you can just do sshfs?
[08:30] <damian> sshfs [user]@[ip]:[remote fs directory] [mount point]
[08:30] <tsaknorris> you would install same app to 1000 linuxies with sshfs. ok i will check if that will open me the connection. i thought you have to have ssh server installed already to other pcs...
[08:31] <damian> I dunno if ssh server is preinstalled, I might have had problems and installed the server after the fact
[08:31] <tsaknorris> very hard work to install first 1000 ssh servers before you can contact to them :D
[08:31] <AndroidLoverInSF> i use kate its always ctl-v to paste
[08:32] <AndroidLoverInSF> weird
[08:32] <damian> but if they don't have ssh server I don't know how you would contact them at all since I never looked into other protocols
[08:33] <damian> I like Filezilla for short or one time connections
[08:33] <crsz> hi
[08:33] <tsaknorris> im 100% sure its possible to contact other computer even if there isnt server. same time you contact you install client there and you are the server
[08:34] <tsaknorris> but im not sure how i would do that
[08:34] <damian> damn, this is part of my initial install "openssh-server openssl sshfs", so they are separate downloads
[08:35] <e-DIO-t> pardon but: shouldn't last runlevel executed (bash runlevel's output) be the 3rd and not 2nd?
[08:36] <tsaknorris> windows has that kind of program
[08:36] <eQuale> hello folks, please how do I securely wipe a standard NTFS partition?
[08:36] <dinkdink> tsaknorris: i'm not sure to what end you are doing what but i've installed ubuntu over wlan from one machine to another using vnc and a vnc viewer
[08:37] <e-DIO-t> eQuale: shred?!
[08:37] <babu__> is there any room for english
[08:37] <damian> dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdX#
[08:37] <tsaknorris> dinkdink: how you would install or remove app from 50 ubuntus at same time?
[08:38] <eQuale> I want to sell an old machine and wipe all data from the drives before
[08:38] <tsaknorris> if i just have connection to them i can write FOR loop what installs or removes apps etc....
[08:38] <eQuale> damian: how exactly does it work?
[08:38] <eQuale> does it have to be mounted?
[08:38] <damian> tsaknorris: Are all these computers supposed to have exactly the same contents?
[08:39] <tsaknorris> eQuale: shred - overwrite a file to hide its contents, and optionally delete it
[08:39] <damian> eQuale: it has to be unmounted, it writes random characters to the partition
[08:39] <damian> tsaknorris: wouldn't that only be files though, not the partition?
[08:40] <tsaknorris> damian: only files
[08:40] <bazhang> babu__, ##english
[08:40] <damian> eQuale: what exactly do you want to eliminate? file/partition/drive?
[08:40] <tsaknorris> eQuale: man shred
[08:41] <wildbat> /dev/random is ..... slow ~  /dev/urandom or /dev/zero is better solution or use shred
[08:41] <eQuale> i need to erase the entire partition, i can reformat it afterwards
[08:41] <damian> wildbat: /dev/zero is useless, but if urandom is faster then by all means use it
[08:42] <eQuale> i need to reformat and wipe /dev/sda2 's (ntfs) entire content
[08:42] <damian> eQuale: alright then use this "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda2"
[08:42] <damian> eQuale: unmount sda2 to avoid problems
[08:43] <wildbat> damian /dev/zero is much faster it is as fast as the disk can write since it is just zero ~  urandom ~ is at ~ 5MB /s
[08:45] <damian> wildbat: as I said, zero is useless, if someone is determined enough they can recover the data after a zero wipe, but doing random makes its immensely harder
[08:45] <eQuale> damian: i hope it does not damage other partition or MBR, does it?
[08:45] <litropy> damian, wildbat, why would I want to use a random number generator to wipe a disk?
[08:45] <linus> Hey im having a big problem anyone i can PM about it? its about using ubuntu 10.4 on a asus E35M1 -I deluxe
[08:46] <eQuale> well, shred has got quite inteligent patterns to overwrite disk, i just don't know how to aplly to entire partition
[08:46] <wildbat> litropy ~   so someone can't recover the data from your "delete" or "formated" disk
[08:46] <anniex> anne needs  a hacker
[08:46] <litropy> wildbat, you're talking about magnetization. I see now.
[08:47] <odix> apt-get ubuntu fails
[08:47] <damian> eQuale wants a secure wipe, zero is useless because the disk still has remanence of the data, but with random its harder to determine what is remanents
[08:47] <frogzoo> shred doesn't work on ext3 so...
[08:47] <odix> anytbody else get this ? failed to fetch
[08:47] <wildgoose> odix, What are you trying to do?
[08:47] <odix> update ?
[08:47] <linus> Hey im having a big problem, anyone i can PM about it? its about using ubuntu 10.4 on a asus E35M1 -I deluxe
[08:47] <odix> apt-get update?
[08:47] <frogzoo> eQuale: oh, you want "sudo shred /dev/###"
[08:47] <odix> wget works
[08:47] <wildbat> damian, depend how "safe" you wanna play ~ you can burn your disk to ashe ~ to just delete with rm  ~ your choice ;p
[08:48] <anniex> hacker come lets make $$$
[08:48] <anniex> ;)
[08:48] <wildgoose> anniex, Do you have a question?
[08:48] <frogzoo> wildbat: NSA will electro photograph ur disk ashes and have a supercomputer reassemble the contents
[08:48] <eQuale> folks, please :D I got lost within this talk
[08:49] <iceroot> dd with /dev/zero is safe enough
[08:49] <anniex> uhmm wildgoose not really
[08:49] <damian> wildbat: well I guess the big question is, how much slower is urandom compared to zero, and does the time outweight the security for eQuale
[08:49] <eQuale> I just need to overwrite my hard drive's windows partition so that the one who holds it won't be able to recover my data without disassembling it
[08:49] <anniex> thanks
[08:49]  * litropy is amused by linus' nick
[08:49] <wildbat> frogzoo: i don't think dusty ashes  ~ will be can reassemble the data XD
[08:49] <anniex> i need a hacker pvtly
[08:49] <linus> Its my name ;(
[08:49] <ikonia> anniex: please don't ask
[08:49] <bazhang> !ot | anniex
[08:50] <iceroot> anniex: first thing should be to read what a hacker is
[08:50] <wildbat> zero is RAM speed ~ urandom that depend on CPU my CPU ~ 5MB/s
[08:50] <pa> hello
[08:50] <wildgoose> eQuale, "sudo shred /dev/sda2"
[08:50] <eQuale> I'd like something like 5 passes of random pattern writes unto all disk clusters within this partition
[08:50] <dinkdink> eQuale: truecrypt will write over a drive a lot of times
[08:50] <damian> truecrypt wouldn't make sense for this
[08:51] <pa> i have a question: is it possible to run natty livecd or live usb in text mode,, without ending up into X/Gnome or making it run gdm?
[08:51] <damian> it would be a waste of time
[08:51] <ikonia> pa: it will start with unity, just stop X and it will drop to console
[08:51] <iceroot> eQuale: sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdX  thats enough nothing more needed
[08:51] <dinkdink> damian: all i do is waste time ;)
[08:51] <iceroot> eQuale: replace sdX with your drive
[08:51] <pa> ikonia, i have some troubles with the graphics card drivers
[08:51] <ikonia> pa: ok
[08:51] <pa> thats why i would like to skip X at all
[08:51] <anniex> iceroot ok
[08:52] <damian> pa: I think there is a key combo to get to terminal
[08:52] <sl33k_> how to use pen drive to install ubuntu?
[08:52] <eQuale> Let's put it this way
[08:52] <iceroot> !usb | sl33k_
[08:52] <ikonia> pa: I don't think you'll be able to stop X by default at startup, the only way I can think of is use the CD to boot into single user mode
[08:52] <dinkdink> sl33k_: man dd
[08:52] <damian> sl33k_: use unetbootin
[08:52] <pa> preventing X to start? coz at the moment the booting hangs at some point just before X is supposed to start
[08:52] <olewolf> damian: I seem to recall that truecrypt includes a "wipe" function, which may be what dinkdink is suggesting. If this is the case, then you may not have to create a truecrypt file on the partition.
[08:53] <iceroot> ikonia: if i am correct you can use the grub-option nox to disbale x at start
[08:53] <pa> nox?
[08:53] <ikonia> iceroot: I don't know actually, I was thinking single user mode would be a way
[08:53] <iceroot> pa: no x
[08:53] <eQuale> I have sda1 (windows OEM files on FAT), sda2 (windows system on NTFS) and sda5 (linux, ext4) on one physical drive
[08:53] <ikonia> pa: try iceroot's suggestion
[08:53] <damian> olewolf: but you have to install truecrypt in the first place, thus a waste of time
[08:53] <ikonia> eQuale: is there a reason you can't seem to grasp what people are telling you
[08:53] <ikonia> eQuale: just write zeros or random data over the partition, do it multiple times if it feels better for you
[08:53] <iceroot> eQuale: i told you how to kill your partition
[08:54] <damian> I think urandom is best for simple security, but if it doesn't matter, do zero
[08:54] <eQuale> I need all data to be securely wiped (just normal level of security, I don't want to compete NSA) from all but first partition
[08:54] <ohir> frogzoo: use luks or truecrypt encryption for the whole disk then you will not need shreders
[08:54] <Linux369> lalala
[08:54] <ikonia> eQuale: you've been told 10 times options how to do it
[08:54] <eQuale> so tell me the definitive verdict please, and I'm to grasp it immediately
[08:54] <Linux369> what is
[08:54] <bazhang> Linux369, not here
[08:54] <ikonia> Linux369: please don't, random noise doesn't help
[08:54] <damian> secure wipe would have to be urandom at the very lest
[08:54] <iceroot> eQuale: lets stop it i told you the command to kill your partiton
[08:54] <tsaknorris> eQuale:  yes 10 times so do it :D
[08:54] <Linux369> yep
[08:55] <Linux369> what is
[08:55] <ohir> frogzoo: ubuntu also supports encryption of your home directory
[08:55] <ikonia> Linux369: what is what ?
[08:55] <Linux369> the better
[08:55] <damian> "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda2"
[08:55] <damian> "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda2"
[08:55] <pa> iceroot, meaning i just have to edit grub boot line and add "no x" or "nox"?
[08:55] <litropy> eQuale, sounfs like "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda2" is your best bet
[08:55] <wildgoose> !best | Linux369
[08:55] <bazhang> Linux369, #ubuntu-bots not here
[08:55] <iceroot> pa: nox
[08:55] <ohir> frogzoo: you may turn it on either at install time or at user creation dialog later
[08:55] <Linux369> fuck this bot
[08:56] <eQuale> :)
[08:56] <eQuale> thank you
[08:56] <xt3mp0r> Hey, is there anyway i can show a cool graph/etc on my terminal as shown in system monitor
[08:56] <eQuale> and sorry for my cautiousness, i've never nuked a disk before
[08:56] <damian> omg we got through!
[08:56] <iceroot> pa: just add the bootoption nox to grub and x will not start
[08:57] <iceroot> xt3mp0r: htop
[08:57] <eQuale> litropy: shall it be mounted or not?
[08:57] <xt3mp0r> iceroot: i have it installed, but it don't have graphs as in sys monitor, any other you know about ?
[08:57] <ikonia> eQuale: no
[08:57] <iceroot> eQuale: no never kill a mounted partition
[08:57] <eQuale> so thanks again
[08:58] <damian> I/we already said no mount
[08:58] <iceroot> damian: you have to say it 10 times :)
[08:58] <linus> Hey im having a big problem, anyone i can PM about it? its about using ubuntu 10.4 on a asus E35M1 -I deluxe
[08:58] <ikonia> linus: just ask the channel
[08:58] <ohir> frogzoo: as for secure wiping, random devices are slow, if you have big partition it'd be faster to install truecrypt then init said partition as encrypted
[08:58] <linus> okey
[08:58] <linus> I installed ubuntu 11.04 -64 first on my new asus E35m1 -I deluxe and then after i didnt get to work right i made a new USB installation with Ubuntu 10.4 and the first time it went well, we formatted the whole drive and so 10.4 was the only thing on. But after i installed it i used the update manager to update everything and rebooted. Then when it started again it booted from the USB and were using the "try ubntu from usb drive" option and I didn't realize it
[08:58] <linus>  and so did i boot from ubuntu and restarted it like 5 times. the same procedure until i figured it out and took out the USB and were back on the partition and OS i instakked on the disk, but then when i try to update it again it worked the first time and i rebooted again for the last updates to get the wireless driver to work. But after that ichecked the update manager to see if it was anything more just incase so when i press "check" it says "downloading pa
[08:58] <linus> ckage information" and on the bar "downloading file 35 of 35" and it says so diectly but after it has 'downloaded' all the 35 files it just stops and says "your system is up-to-date. My other problem is the that i cant find any drivers for my graphic card Radeon HD 6310 and its intergrated with the motherboard. and in alsamixer from the beginning it dosent show anything so i change usin F6 to teh right hardware and then i adjust the volume to what i want and
[08:58] <FloodBot1> linus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:58] <linus> after that i shut it down and save it. But when i start it again its back to what it was first.. no bars and nothing.
[08:58] <damian> ACK!
[08:59] <ikonia> linus: whoa, easy there
[08:59] <linus> sry.. should have pasted :/
[08:59] <ikonia> linus: easier to just do a summary
[08:59] <litropy> lightdm displays nothing but a blank screen upon loadup. Any ideas?
[08:59] <litropy> blank black*
[08:59] <ohir> frogzoo: typical random speed is a few MBs, truecrypt will encrypti it to the same random effect with 30-90MBs speed
[09:00] <ikonia> linus: as I understand it you're stuggling to get your radeon card working, and your sound card
[09:01] <linus> yeah
[09:01] <damian> I don't see a problem with no more updates to do, this isn't like Windows where you have to reboot and refresh to find you have more updates to do.
[09:01] <linus> but the wierd part is that the update manager seems to try to install 35 upgrades...
[09:01] <ikonia> linus: why is that odd ?
[09:01] <linus> becouse it just stops after downloading them everytime
[09:02] <ikonia> linus: does the machine hang ?
[09:02] <linus> it just says its up do date after downloading them.. no installations
[09:02] <damian> Are you sure it wasn't just release information, not actual packages
[09:02] <linus> Nope
[09:02] <ohir> linus: it already said your system is up to date. These 35 files are index files listing all avaliable at the moment packages
[09:03] <ikonia> linus: it's downloading the headers, then once it gets them, it's telling you you are up to date
[09:03] <linus> Ohkay.. :O
[09:03] <ohir> linus: proprietary drivers are installed from Administration->Drivers menu
[09:03] <linus> I dont find anything there
[09:04] <linus> it searches but the list is empty
[09:04] <dinkdink> linus: update will tell you what can be updated, you need to upgrade in order to install those
[09:04] <damian> Try going into synaptic and finding it there
[09:04] <prashan> hi. need help to fix my internal mic on DELL studio 1435-ubuntu 11.04.
[09:04] <linus> Okye but ehn i type sudo apt-get upgrade nothing happens either in that case
[09:04] <litropy> linus, what do you get when you open a terminal and enter: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[09:05] <damian> frglx is proprietary driver and radeon is opensource one
[09:05] <ikonia> linus: that's not a bad thing
[09:05] <syst3mw0rm> I am having error while executing this shell script
[09:05] <syst3mw0rm>  http://pastebin.com/NtyhSxx0
[09:05] <typo_> hi all. I have installed ubuntu on an old P4 desktop pc. Everything went all right but I cannot access internet. Could anyone help? -I can access LAN but not internet-
[09:05] <ohir> linus: you are upgraded already and system is up to date
[09:06] <damian> As I said, not Windows where every day entails a few sessions of updates
[09:06] <ikonia> syst3mw0rm: printf in a shell script ?
[09:06] <litropy> typo_, dhclient <interface>
[09:06] <dinkdink> linus: try -f safe-upgrade and also start-pulseaudio-x11 see if that gets you any where
[09:06] <ohir> linus: proprietary drivers (if these are avaliable) are installed from other place.
[09:06] <e-DIO-t> ikonia: for sure: so you can use \n \t and similars
[09:06] <prashan> external mic works fine. but the internal mic does not capture any sound.
[09:06] <linus> okey so then the updatemanager problem is solved... im gonna try with flgrx
[09:06] <litropy> typo_, make sure you've rebooted your modem
[09:06] <ikonia> e-DIO-t: yeah, but I didn't think it will pick up the varibles
[09:06] <damian> frglx*
[09:07] <susundberg> prashan: try 'pavucontrol' -- there you can change the input source
[09:07] <ikonia> e-DIO-t: I'll be shamed, it does
[09:07] <linus> Dinkdink. start-pulseaudio-x11 dosnet give anything in terminal?
[09:07] <prashan> initially i had windows vista which i removed.
[09:07] <Waldy> good morning guys
[09:08] <litropy> Morning, Waldy! I'm glad we found you. We miss your brother dearly.
[09:08] <ikonia> syst3mw0rm: heads up, setting the path of MYSQL to "mysql" isn't a good idead, use the full path, eg: /usr/bin/mysql
[09:08] <ikonia> litropy: ?
[09:08] <syst3mw0rm> ikonia, no problem
[09:08] <linus> Damian. I istalled flgrx through synaptic but how do i 'activate' it?
[09:08] <syst3mw0rm> but mysql also works
[09:08] <litropy> ikonia: Waldo
[09:08] <ikonia> syst3mw0rm: that was just a side comment
[09:08] <typo_> litropy: What will I type for <interface> ? Should I type it as is? dhclient <interface>
[09:08] <Waldy> litropy, my brother?
[09:08] <pentarex> hey guys yesterday my server freeze, where I can check the logs ? I
[09:08] <ikonia> Waldy: ignore it, poor attempt at a joke
[09:08] <pentarex> I could'nt do anything
[09:09] <litropy> typo_, whatever is listed as your ethernet interface when you ifconfig
[09:09] <ikonia> pentarex: look in the syslog
[09:09] <syst3mw0rm> ikonia, did you anything wrong in script
[09:09] <Waldy> ikonia, okay, I didnt get it ^^
[09:09] <linus> Damian. I istalled frglx through synaptic but how do i 'activate' it?
[09:09] <ikonia> syst3mw0rm: what's the error you're getting it
[09:09] <ikonia> syst3mw0rm: sorry, the error you're getting
[09:09] <prashan> susundberg: i tried both the option
[09:10] <typo_> litropy: I suppose it is eth0. right?
[09:10] <nophone> hello
[09:10] <syst3mw0rm> i am not getting error its is showing something else...it is something that i should get while exectuing only /usr/bin/mysql
[09:10] <syst3mw0rm> ikonia, : ^
[09:10] <pentarex> ikonia: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: No such file or directory only this that yels from my postfix, could this be the reason for for the freeze...
[09:10] <prashan> susandberg: analog microphone and analog input but still its not working
[09:10] <susundberg> prashan: define both 'options' -- do you have selection there for internal and external microphone?
[09:10] <ikonia> pentarex: doubtful, but that is a problem
[09:11] <linus> ohir, where do i install them? like ati crystal thingy?
[09:11] <ikonia> syst3mw0rm: could you pastebin what you're getting ?
[09:11] <litropy> typo_, yes 0- now make sure it is up by ifconfig eth0 up
[09:11] <nophone> i'm having issues with versions of ubuntu after 9: basically there seems to be something wrong with the video driver. i can make out what's on the screen but everything is all messed up with horizontal lines going across the screen
[09:11] <litropy> then dhclient eth0
[09:11] <pentarex> ikonia: I think I fix it with: /etc/postfix stop; newaliases; /etc/postfix start
[09:11] <eQuale> please tell me one thing - how well works ubuntu 11.4 on i5 sandy bridge with GMA HD3000 integrated gpu?
[09:11] <litropy> typo_, ^^
[09:11] <susundberg> prashan: mhh, i am not sure here, but i think analog input is something else
[09:11] <pentarex> ikonia: I have doubts of bad ram memory, how I can check it without restarting my pc?
[09:11] <ikonia> pentarex: it's not a fatal error, it just means mail won't work, so that won't cause your machine to freeze
[09:12] <ohir> linus: Administration -> Drivers
[09:12] <ikonia> pentarex: the best way to test is to use the memtest option from the boot CD
[09:12] <susundberg> prashan: that is if you have only one micrphone selection there then the mic selection (external / internal) is done via hardware, or linux for some reason doesnt detect your internal mic
[09:12] <ohir> linus: or like 'Drivers' I do not remember well english layout.
[09:12] <pentarex> ikonia: yeah thank you, and via the logs can I check if this is a problem? http://pastebin.com/twBbT1Bv check out if you want my dmesg
[09:13] <nophone> i was able to install by making out what i could on the screen
[09:13] <litropy> typo_, Mind you, this is how to connect via CLI, and I honestly don't know why it's not connecting automatically, but if it errors out, at least you have something more specific.
[09:13] <susundberg> prashan: if the case is that its done with software and linux cannot detect the internal mic then its driver issue
[09:13] <susundberg> prashan: it did work on windows right?
[09:13] <linus> ohir, i oly find 'hardrive drivers' and that only searches for some seconds and come up empty-handed
[09:13] <ohir> linus: then your ubuntu will check proprietary drivers base and will suggest you one if anything will be avaliable for your box
[09:13] <linus> none is
[09:14] <litropy> typo_, and I'm pretty sure this is only for cable internet connections ... if you're connecting via DSL, I suggest you google "ubuntu pppoe"
[09:14] <prashan> susandberg: is it possible that i send u the screen shot?
[09:14] <prashan> susandberg: it worked in windows
[09:14] <ohir> linus: so there is nothing that your laptop vendor contributed
[09:14] <typo_> litropy: i applied the commands and rebooted but no luck. it is connected to ethernet but no internet
[09:14] <nophone> thos computer is surely shot to hell
[09:14] <prashan> susandberg: it was not working on ubuntu 10.10
[09:14] <litropy> typo_, do you have dsl or cable?
[09:15] <typo_> litropy: it is cable
[09:15] <susundberg> prashan: you can put your image to www-and post url here
[09:15] <litropy> typo_, is your modem connected directly to your computer via ethernet?
[09:15] <prashan> susandberg: what can be done for the driver issue?
[09:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[09:16] <linus> ohir, not that i know of
[09:16] <susundberg> prashan: little .. you can try to google for solution or try newer kernel
[09:16] <ohir> linus: so you are on harsh path now: you need to know (from your vendor or from your dmesg) what chipset box uses then search the net for 'XX-XX-XXXX ubuntu version problem solved' ie
[09:16] <typo_> litropy: my computer is connected to the ethernet switch in our room.
[09:16] <jakeb> hey every
[09:16] <litropy> typo_, bypass the switch
[09:16] <linus> ohir, i know the graphic cards name
[09:16] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I want to comment that Unity is inconvenient to somewhere on Ubuntu Forum. But I don't know which to do although I've sought by keyword...
[09:16] <litropy> typo_, try a direct connection first (reboot the modem after bypass)
[09:16] <susundberg> prashan: my laptop had only no-selection for mic-port in pavucontrol -- though the internal/external mic works in harware i guess
[09:17] <p1oooop> woah, that's a lot of people.
[09:17] <ohir> linus: I suspect that this box uses ATI chip. ATI refuses to work with opensource developers so ati users are mostly stuck to microsoft world.
[09:17] <typo_> litropy: hmm. let me try that if it works. but I'll have to make it work with switch because we are sharing the same connection with my friends
[09:17] <ubuntuNoob> having trouble booting up all of a sudden.  I get the Grub menu with 4 options:  a) ubuntu xxx-generic  b) ubuntu xxx-generic (recovery mode)  c &d memory test.    When i select a)  i get a black (dos) like screen with BusyBox v1.17.1.   Any help greatly appreciated...i've been working on turning in my final exam project tomorrow.
[09:17] <pentarex> ikonia: do you have any idea or you haven't check it out
[09:17] <litropy> why the heck do people use switches in a home environment anyway?
[09:17] <prashan> susundberg: i have also changed the alsa-base.conf with options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6-dmic
[09:17] <jakeb> i need help
[09:17] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob: what's the menu entry for the first option?
[09:17] <litropy> typo_, it really could be the switch.
[09:17] <joshua__> i need help
[09:18] <Emmanuel_Chanel> linus: I wondered if you were Linus Torvalds.
[09:18] <litropy> typo_, ... that needs to be reconfigured.
[09:18] <joshua__> i need help
[09:18] <jakeb> hey josh
[09:18] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob: actually, it might be better if you pastebin it...
[09:18] <ohir> linus: although sometimes there are solutions for this. Search the net.
[09:18] <susundberg> prashan: sorry i cannot help .. i would suggest google and mayby newer kernel, but they are only my guesses what could help ..
[09:18] <ubuntuNoob> p1oooop:  what do you mean menu entry?
[09:18] <linus> ohir, thanks for everything ^^
[09:18] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob: if you absolutely need to get stuff done quick, I recommend live USB booting ;)
[09:18] <prashan> susun: does the voicerecorder work in ur machine?
[09:18] <linus> Emmanuel_Chanel, Nah that aint me
[09:18] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob: erm... the grub config.
[09:19] <prashan> susun: ok .. thanks
[09:19] <litropy> typo_, lots of problems happen with switches. They're not as sophisticated as routers.
[09:19] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Right.
[09:19] <ohir> linus: substitute XX-XXX- for your graphics/chipset info of course
[09:19] <ubuntuNoob> p1oooop: there's an option for 'editing' the grub option.    it shows something like ... set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)
[09:19] <p1oooop> and I should really freaking take a shower.. in fact, I don't even know why I'm in here.
[09:20] <Lasers> p1oooop: Because showers are overrated. :P
[09:20] <ubuntuNoob> p1oooop: please to take a shower yet =D
[09:20] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob: hm, msdos?
[09:20] <litropy> to p1oooop, of course.
[09:20] <prashan> susun: i have been googling from few weeks and the solution given did not work for me . hard luck
[09:20] <ubuntuNoob> p1oooop: i have no idea why it says msdos..... this was a pure msdos box.
[09:20] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob: ahh, I see...
[09:20] <ubuntuNoob> p1oooop:  whooops..i meant...pure linux box.
[09:20] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob: LOL.
[09:21] <ohir> linus: anyway its a matter of time, opensource developers usually come with working floss drivers within two three years. It takes that long because they need to reverse engeeneer chip operational data.
[09:21] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob: hm, that's odd. perhaps it's the partiion table type.
[09:21] <ubuntuNoob> p1oooop:   that's possible...as i had formatted a ms partition in the past
[09:21] <typo_> litropy: I have bypassed the switch. now rebooting.
[09:21] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob: naw, it's usually an msdos partition table anyway... LOL
[09:22] <litropy> typo_, sweet. Glad you're still with me.
[09:22] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob: anyway... what do you mean by a busybox?
[09:22] <ohir> !ati > ohir
[09:23] <nikhil_> anyone have a problem with the unity dock not hiding when set to auto hide?
[09:23] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob_: ?
[09:23] <nikhil_> ^^ i tried unity --replace to no avail
[09:23] <ubuntuNoob_> p1oooop:   sorry, i just got disconnected
[09:23] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob_: ahh, that happens.
[09:23] <ubuntuNoob_> p1oooop:  is there anything i can try
[09:23] <ubuntuNoob_> ?
[09:24] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob_: I can't really diagnose the problem :P
[09:24] <ubuntuNoob_> p1oooop: really desparate here ..
[09:24] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob_: you can always try USB booting...
[09:24] <prashan> anyone who knows the fix ?
[09:24] <ubuntuNoob_> p1oooop:  sure...
[09:24] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob_: kinda why I have a USB stick with ubuntu on it XD
[09:24] <joshua__> hi
[09:24] <ubuntuNoob_> p1oooop:   i'll try to repost the question too...incase.
[09:24] <dinkdink> nikhil_: been a while since i have messsed with gui but can't you delete the bar and put it back
[09:25] <p1oooop> ubuntuNoob_: I don't see anything wrong with that ;)
[09:25] <ubuntuNoob_> having trouble booting up all of a sudden.  I get the Grub menu with 4 options:  a) ubuntu xxx-generic  b) ubuntu xxx-generic (recovery mode)  c &d memory test.    When i select a)  i get a black (dos) like screen with BusyBox v1.17.1.   Any help greatly appreciated...i've been working on turning in my final exam project tomorrow.
[09:25] <nikhil_> dinkdink, that's usually what the "unity --replace" command does, but that doesn't work
[09:25] <nophone> i have a question if anyone can help me
[09:25] <ohir> ikonia: we certainly need !atibad factoid. I am tired of explaining it again and again
[09:25] <p1oooop> !ask | nophone
[09:25] <wildgoose> !anyone | nophone
[09:25] <prashan> need to fix my internal mic on 11.04
[09:26] <p1oooop> wildgoose: XD
[09:26] <dinkdink> nikhil_: those little suckers can be so annoying
[09:26] <nophone> i understand, but i just threw my question out there earlier and ppl seemed busy so ...
[09:26] <nikhil_> dinkdink, only way to fix it is a restart it seems
[09:26] <joshua__> @ ubuntu noob
[09:26] <wildgoose> nophone, Try again.
[09:26] <joshua__> what is wrong
[09:26]  * p1oooop goes to take a shower now.
[09:27] <dinkdink> nophone: i wasn't here earlier
[09:27] <nophone> when i try to start up form a ubuntyu distro post v9 the screen comes all mest up
[09:27] <nophone> i have lines across the screen
[09:27] <ardjan> I have recently upgraded to 11.04 and since then every now and then my cpu frequency gets stuck in a verly low setting (800Mhz) making my system almost unusable. I have checked the cpu temperature and there is nothing wrong there. Is this a known problem and is there a work around?
[09:27] <litropy> nophone, just ask. usually, someone picks it up. If you don't get an answer, many times the active people in the chan genuinely don't know.
[09:27] <nophone> i don't know if the problem is resolution but i suspect that my graphics card drier is no longer supported
[09:28] <nophone> i was able to make out what was on the screan reasonably well so i got to boot up and everything was still crazy
[09:28] <wildgoose> nophone, Does it work correctly on a Live CD?
[09:28] <nophone> wild- no
[09:28] <jakeb> @ ubuntu noob try pressing ctrl+alt+t and that should open terminal
[09:28] <joshua__> i need help
[09:28] <litropy> nophone, you might want to check out your xorg log
[09:28] <nophone> it's strange, the start up screen appears properly in 1/4th of my computer sreen, but after that it fills the screen all mesed up
[09:28] <scriptwarlock> can anyone check this out, dunno if this is conky or ubuntu issue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4yPucVFGaY
[09:29] <typo_> litropy: It didn't connect to even LAN when I plugged the incoming cable directly. I re-enabled the switch and it is again connected to ethernet but no internet.
[09:29] <nophone> i tried this with ubuntu 10 and 11, 9 has no problems visually
[09:29] <joshua__> jakeb
[09:29] <nophone> that is to say 9 had no probelms but 10 and 11 do
[09:30] <typo_> litropy: Another internesting thing is: the other two computers can access internet over the same switch. one of them is windows and the other is ubuntu installed
[09:30] <dinkdink> nophone: what is the native resolution of the screen
[09:30] <joshua__> what r u doing
[09:30] <litropy> typo_, I'm having trouble with your terminology. Are you saying the light labeled PC or Link on your modem wasn't lit when you connected the modem directly to your computer?
[09:30] <nophone> right off the bat i'm not sure, it's a standard wide notebook
[09:30] <typo_> litropy: yes
[09:30] <nophone> which ever one usually comes after 10254x768
[09:31] <nophone> *024
[09:31] <nophone> *1024
[09:31] <litropy> typo_, yet when you're connected via the switch, your network card senses an electrical connection?
[09:31] <nophone> when i got to start up ubuntu, i went to the resolution settings, and changed them. the lines reduced in size, but the screen was still very messed up
[09:32] <typo_> litropy: I mean the green light on my pc which shows the ethernet connection didn't went on. I dont have any chance to see the modem. Only thing i have is a cable which comes from the modem
[09:32] <typo_> litropy: yes.
[09:32] <nophone> i tried going to admin->drivers, but it just sat there and sat there. plus the drivers that were selected should have been working
[09:32] <SockPants> hey, what's a keyboard shortcut for (un)maximizing a window
[09:33] <dinkdink> nophone: i've suggested this before to angry results but give ps3-video-mode package a try
[09:33] <SockPants> i can't reach the buttons anymore now that i've maximized firefox in Unity and then ran metacity --replace
[09:33] <scriptwarlock> can anyone check this out, dunno if this is conky or ubuntu issue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4yPucVFGaY
[09:33] <nophone> dinkdink, angry results you say? haha
[09:33] <ardjan> Does anybody know what can get your cpu frequency scaling stuck at a very low setting (apart from the temperature, my laptop is not running hot)
[09:34] <prashan> hi. need help to fix my internal mic on DELL studio 1435-ubuntu 11.04.
[09:34] <MWPau> Tell me something Ubuntu guru's... why is it that when installing 10.xx or 11.xx from a 600MB CD image, that the installer just goes ahead and downloads packages off the 'net without asking, or asking if a mirror should be used??
[09:34] <litropy> typo_, are you absolutely sure there was a cord going from the modem to the computer when you bypassed, and that eth0 was up?
[09:34] <dinkdink> nophone: yes, it's a cynical world :3
[09:34] <prashan> external mic works fine. but the internal mic does not capture any sound. . initially i had windows vista which i removed.
[09:34] <typo_> litropy: I applied the command. ifconfig eth0 up
[09:34] <SockPants> ardjan: i'm not sure if it helps and it's most likely not the cause anyway, but yesterday i saw a widget you can add to a panel in metacity that allows you to select a fixed frequency for the cpu or a setting like 'performance' or 'power saving' for automatically setting it, maybe if you touch one of those it will fix the problem.
[09:34] <litropy> typo_, alrighty.
[09:34] <nophone> dinkdink, i must admit i don't know how to do this ps3 mode you speak of but my current plan is to try to just upgrade to version 11 afteri nstalling 9
[09:35] <nophone> unfortunatly i don't think my version of 9 is 64bit, and also 1 more question
[09:35] <MWPau> Just because the internet is available, doesnt mean the installer should just download whatever it likes without saying what its getting or how large itll be!
[09:35] <litropy> typo_, welp ... did you reboot the switch?
[09:35] <nophone> is the last package tobe installed by the ubuntu cd the grub?
[09:35] <eQuale> folks, how smoothly does ubuntu run on i5 cores sandy bridge with intel GMA HD3000 gpu?
[09:35] <typo_> litropy: I rebooted several times yesterday. but let me power off and on again. :)
[09:35] <nophone> my install from the 9 cd (it's a very old cd) keep failing at the grub2 install, so i was thinking i could just start up from the live cd and install grub manually
[09:36] <Ptptaylor> eQuale: It will be just fine
[09:36] <SockPants> eQuale: ubuntu runs smoothly on my atom with gma3150 chip, so i'm not sure what your requirements are but that should be no problem
[09:37] <typo_> litropy: powered the switch off and on. the pc reconnected to lan again but yet no internet connection.
[09:37] <SockPants> anyone, whats the keyboard shortcut for maximize?
[09:38] <SockPants> ha nevermind got it
[09:38] <Ptptaylor> alt+f10 if anyone else was wanting to know
[09:38] <litropy> typo_, when you enter "nm-tool" in terminal, do you have an ipv4 address?
[09:38] <SockPants> has anyone tried switching from unity to metacity without logging out and in? it's a disaster!
[09:39] <adwait> Hello
[09:39] <adwait> Hello
[09:40] <typo_> litropy: yes. it is 10.68.16.207
[09:40] <nickmoeck> This may be a stupid question but..... when I run "ps aux"... what the heck are these "ib_cm" processes?
[09:40] <MWPau> So can someone tell me how i select a http/ftp package mirror on Ubuntu 11.04 desktop installation??
[09:40] <adwait> How to install ubuntu on extended partition?
[09:40] <litropy> typo_, do you get replies when you $ ping ibm.com (ctrl+c to stop)
[09:41] <dinkdink> nophone: from what i understand you can't upgrade from 9 directly to 11 but if you had 9 installed and a cd of the target OS you could gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" or sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:41] <wildbat> adwait: just install as normal ~
[09:41] <dinkdink> nophone: i'm not certain
[09:42] <SockPants> hey all
[09:42] <adwait> thanks
[09:42] <Abc> hi..I have 10.10 currently on my pc and I have a 11.04 .iso image.Can I upgrade to 11.04 without making a cd ?
[09:42] <typo_> litropy: unknown host ibm.com
[09:42] <SockPants> if i switch from Unity to metacity using 'metacity --replace &' it eats my file-edit-view-etc bar
[09:42] <SockPants> not just on existing windows either
[09:43] <chaddy> menu bar
[09:43] <wildgoose> MWPau, Ignore the network setup upon install
[09:44] <MWPau> wildgoose: there wasnt one?
[09:44] <nophone> well i'll check
[09:44] <nophone> i'll try installing with the messy screen again and if that doesn't work oh well i'm using a crappy computer, so i don't mind experimenting
[09:44] <litropy> typo_, what about $ ping 129.42.38.1
[09:44] <adwait> How to install ubuntu on extended partition?
[09:44] <prashan> anyone who knows the fix ?
[09:44] <scriptwarlock> help me sort out why does any applications are not completely exits and when we click on the desktop it kills the conky..
[09:45] <SockPants> is there a keyboard shortcut for getting the menu bar back, like alt in windows?
[09:45] <adwait> how to selest extended partition during installation?
[09:46] <Abc> adwait : Do you want to install Ubuntu With Windows ?
[09:47] <dinkdink>  SockPants menu bar to what
[09:47] <adwait> ya
[09:50] <scriptwarlock> help me sort out why does any applications are not completely exits and when we click on the desktop why it kills the conky..
[09:50] <typo_> litropy: It pinged the ip and still waiting for response. :)
[09:50] <litropy> typo_, what about $ ping 127.0.0.1
[09:52] <typo_> litropy: It pings successfully 127.0.0.1. %0 packet loss.
[09:52] <runlevelten> Hi folks, what's the currently popular way to make "beep" work?
[09:53] <litropy> typo_, I'm pretty sure you have a valid IP and your network card is funtioning properly. Something is blocking the traffic, though.
[09:53] <runlevelten> I see softbeep is deleted, and I can't for the life of me I can't get beep to work
[09:53] <litropy> essentially, you're on the 'net, but you can't send or receive data
[09:53] <litropy> typo_, is this a fresh install?
[09:54] <MWPau> This is fucking ridiculous! I got the 600MB 11.04 desktop ISO so no packages would need to be downloaded, but it still downloads a heap WITHOUT ASKING. If i wanted the installer to download packages i would have got the netinst!
[09:54] <typo_> litropy: yes
[09:54] <runlevelten> I wonder, has softbeep been deleted because everyone's using something else?
[09:54] <ikonia> MWPau: control your language
[09:54] <MWPau> ikonia: i thought i did
[09:54] <litropy> typo_, it's really, really weird that you didn't get a connection after you bypassed.
[09:54] <ikonia> MWPau: your swearing is unacceptable, please don't do it again
[09:54] <typo_> litropy: yeah. :)
[09:55] <MWPau> ikonia: so you must be new to the internet, yes?
[09:55] <litropy> typo_, it still might be your switch with this configuration.
[09:55] <ikonia> MWPau: no, not at all, you're new to this channel, so I'll send you a link with the rules
[09:55] <ikonia> !guidelines > MWPau
[09:55] <litropy> what do you get when you dhclient eth0?
[09:55]  * wildgoose sees a ban coming
[09:55] <typo_> litropy: but there are two other computers using the smae switch and they have no problems accessing internet.
[09:56] <runlevelten> it's just that - in giving a small girl a computer which she is to learn to program and script, the inability to do "beep" isn't very good.
[09:56] <MWPau> Meh, its not as if this chan is useful anyway... asked how to solves this problem and got 0 replies. Ban me if you like.
[09:56] <litropy> typo_, I know
[09:56] <litropy> typo_, ^^
[09:56] <ikonia> MWPau: just please control the language, that's all we ask
[09:56] <typo_> litropy: I also tried plugging their cables to my pc. :)
[09:56] <chaddy> maybe you're asking your questions wrong, MWPau
[09:57] <typo_> litropy: may it be because of drivers?
[09:57] <ikonia> MWPau: software gets updates/fixed in between release point and $today the downloads you are seeing are just updates/fixes etc etc. you can cancel the updates if you don't want them
[09:57] <MWPau> chaddy: no, i was quite clear
[09:58] <litropy> typo_, what do you get when you dhclient eth0?
[09:58] <chaddy> yet you didn't get an answer, how queer?
[09:58] <runlevelten> Hi. On the beep thing - has beep been phased out or something?
[09:59] <MWPau> ikonia: I walked away from the install and came back to see it downloading data off my 3G connect which is going to cost me big $$s. Not happy.
[09:59] <typo_> litropy: listening on LPF/eth0/00:11:d8:09:53:1e
[09:59] <ikonia> MWPau: you must have configured the 3g card
[09:59] <typo_> litropy: sending on LPF/eth0/00:11:d8:09:53:1e
[09:59] <typo_> litropy: sending on socket/fallback
[09:59] <MWPau> ikonia: i dont care if its doing secuirty updates or not, it shouldnt download squat without asking
[10:00] <ikonia> MWPau: also if you had watched the installer you could have cancled the card
[10:00] <ikonia> MWPau: sorry, canceled the downloads
[10:00] <ikonia> MWPau: you're in a minority on not wanting updates, so the default is to update
[10:00] <ikonia> MWPau: can't be undone now, so I guess just be aware of any future installs
[10:00] <MWPau> ikonia: nope, its a 3G router connected via LAN. the installed didnt ask one single question about network setup.
[10:00] <typo_> litropy: DHCPREQUEST of 10.68.16.207 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
[10:00] <razz11> can some one help me interpret the following syntax: $ for h in `find /proc/*/fd -ilname "/tmp/Flash*" 2>/dev/null`; do ln -s "$h" `readlink "$h" | cut -d' ' -f1`; done
[10:00] <ikonia> MWPau: ah, it's configured by dhcp if it's a wired connection
[10:00] <typo_> litropy: DHCPACK of 10.68.16.207 from 10.2.0.1
[10:01] <MWPau> ikonia: correct
[10:01] <a6-intruder> hi there
[10:01] <ikonia> MWPau: can't be changed now, just keep in mind for the future
[10:01] <typo_> litropy: bound to 10.68.16.207 -- renewal in 42196 seconds
[10:01] <runlevelten> The reason I'm asking is that it seems a bit odd for a linux machine to come with beep, printf \a etc all non-working. Work messages don't beep in irssi, temperature alarms don't go off, and when my daughter tries "beep" the utility exists but nothing happens
[10:01] <typo_> litropy: that's all.
[10:02] <MWPau> yeah. but still not happy about it! updates should be done after the install, and be prompted... not during.
[10:02] <Atharva> Hi,I just upgraded to 11.04 a week ago and it hangs in my case....is it the same for any of you ? or is it the problem of my pc ?
[10:02] <ikonia> MWPau: well, can't be changed now
[10:02] <litropy> typo_, so you even have a lease.
[10:02] <litropy> typo_, I can't fathom what would be wrong, really
[10:02] <sh8080|2> I need to delete all lines from a file except to the last 50. the problem is I can use "sed" or "bash" only
[10:02] <MWPau> ikonia: no it cant, but that assumption should be removed from the installer
[10:02] <runlevelten> when I discuss this with someone, I'm told it's not a bug. The expected behaviour is to modprobe pcskpr, then supply an argument to point beep to a special device on its ensuing creation
[10:02] <litropy> typo_, everything looks good.
[10:03] <litropy> typo_, it's as if your firewall is blocking traffic.
[10:03] <a6-intruder> @Atharva: I updated and had no problems on my compaq laptop
[10:03] <ikonia> MWPau: log a bug if you feel it's a problem
[10:03] <MWPau> ikonia: well it is, so i will do so :)
[10:03] <scriptwarlock> help me sort out why does any applications are not completely exits and when we click on the desktop why it kills the conky..
[10:03] <runlevelten> which raises the questions: Why include beep with no mention of that, and how on earth, if it isn't at least documented on the wiki, is that not a bug
[10:03] <typo_> litropy: but I don't have a firewall, do I?
[10:04] <runlevelten> (I'd documented it myself on the wiki, quite happily, if the supplied solution worked. Sadly not)
[10:04] <ken> !quit
[10:04] <chaddy>  /quit
[10:04] <ken> thanks
[10:05] <typo_> litropy: I mean I didn't install anything like ufw. Actually I didn't install anything. :) it is a fresh install from cd.
[10:05] <razz11> any one know how to recover a temp flash video form firefox
[10:05] <runlevelten> so, my question is: I see beep doesn't work, and that softbeep has been deleted from the repos. What is the solution people are using so that irssi alerts, temperature alarms, programming tutorials etc. can beep?
[10:05] <a6-intruder> does anyone knows if ubuntu has something like "satelite server" id dod not find any
[10:05] <ikonia> a6-intruder: puppet or landscape are you best options
[10:05] <a6-intruder> omg
[10:05] <a6-intruder> of course
[10:06] <litropy> typo_, no, it sounds like you don't. I'm spent. sorry, bud.
[10:06] <runlevelten> Hi. I see softbeep and its source have been deleted from the repos. Is this because people are using a better alternative?
[10:06] <a6-intruder> @ikonia: my brain, I ashamed now
[10:07] <runlevelten> If so, I'd be grateful for a hint as to what that is.
[10:07] <bullgard4> [GNOME 2.32.1] How can I determine to what program my  F12 key is bound? If I press F12 in Ubuntu Classic No effects, the title of the program window having the focus will gray out. Perhaps a highlighted item as well. I used unsuccessfully gconf-editor, xprop, xwininfo, xrestop, cat /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.de.
[10:08] <runlevelten> !beep
[10:08] <runlevelten> !softbeep
[10:08] <Atharva> @ a6-intruder : b'coz my pc has 2.5 gb ram and c2d processor but still the prob occurs..
[10:08] <runlevelten> !compensationaftertemperaturealarmsdon'twork
[10:08] <typo_> litropy: Anyway. Thanks a lot for trying to help. :) I'll try my chance with reinstalling ubuntu and then fedora if the problem persists.
[10:08] <runlevelten> Erm.
[10:08] <runlevelten> !pcspkr
[10:09]  * runlevelten sighs
[10:09] <typo_> litropy: Have a nice day.  Thanks again.
[10:10] <a6-intruder> @Atharva: My laptop has an AMD Sempron V140 single core 2GB ram
[10:10] <cyphase> does anyone else have problems with flash crashing all the time in chromium?
[10:10] <wildgoose> !chromium
[10:11] <runlevelten> hrm. Without wishing to make a nuisance of myself, does anyone have any suggestions on getting the system bell, beep etc. working beyond the solutions proposed on  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beep/+bug/144022 ?
[10:11] <runlevelten> (it's basically wontfix)
[10:12] <wildgoose> !patience | runlevelten
[10:12] <cyphase> wildgoose, yea, i'm already using that
[10:12] <runlevelten> No, I tried that. It still doesn't work.
[10:12] <runlevelten> ;)
[10:12] <pksadiq> runlevelten: with the in built  CPU speaker ? you will have to remove the pc speaker module from backlist
[10:12] <cyphase> just about to update to 14 though
[10:14] <runlevelten> pksadiq: I have the module loaded, and there's even an entry /dev/input/by-path/platform-pcspkr-event-spkr
[10:14] <a6-intruder> thanks for the help and bye
[10:14] <ardjan> I just got a bit further with my cpu frequency problem, I noticed that /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/bios_limit limits my cpu frequency to 800MHz, I did not see a bios setting for this however.
[10:14] <runlevelten> but beep -e /dev/and/so/on does nothing
[10:14] <pksadiq> runlevelten: did you try printf "\7"  in terminal?
[10:15] <ardjan> Does anybody know why this bios_limit cpu frequency is this low?
[10:15] <runlevelten> \7, \a etc
[10:15] <runlevelten> there's definitely a speaker there
[10:15] <razz11> how to interpret the following command: $ readlink "$h" | cut -d' ' -f1
[10:16] <wildgoose> ardjan, What kind of system are you running?
[10:16] <mklencke> Any app indicator devs here? I'm having a problem with the menu callback. Threads executing GTK+ GUI callbacks should already have the GUI lock, and they do from normal menus, but menu actions initiated by the indicator applet don't have the lock
[10:17] <nnubuntu> Boss i cant shut Down my Ubuntu every time i have to use sudo shutdown -h.............why?
[10:17] <runlevelten> ah well, I'll give it some time later. It's mainly annoying because my work IRC doesn't beep on this machine, but I only needed to use it for an hour anyway, the other one's back up now :)
[10:18] <runlevelten> thanks for the help, pksadiq :)
[10:18] <runlevelten> bye, all.
[10:18] <wildgoose> !pm
[10:19] <ardjan> I am using an HP compaq 8510w
[10:20] <reber> hi. How to refresh usb storage devices ? I explain : if i power up an external hd usb device *before* the pc, this device isn't recognised, and then i can't mount it. I have always to power it down and power it up again. Any workaround for this problem ? For example force to rescan usb devices ?
[10:21] <ikonia> reber: sounds like a hal bug
[10:22] <ardjan> wildgoose, the CPU is an intel core 2 duo T9300
[10:24] <Karen_m> I want to use freedos.iso and add files to it when i boot into freedos on my usb flash.  How do you do this, add a folder and it mounts it somehow or modify the iso?
[10:25] <reber> ikonia, maybe. Any ideas then .
[10:25] <reber> ?
[10:27] <maz> hello Im new to irc chat and ubuntu, can anyone point in the right direction pls?
[10:27] <linus> is there anything like an .xinit scrpit that start on startup in ubuntu 10.04?
[10:28] <linus> so you can start spotify and firefox directly when the comp startes up
[10:30] <reber> by
[10:30] <nettezzaumana> hi there
[10:30] <maz> hello
[10:30] <nettezzaumana> fast Q: .. customers claims that he HAS NOT /dev/loop9 ... is it default in ubuntu ?
[10:32] <ikonia> nettezzaumana: don't see why that device would exist
[10:33] <nettezzaumana> ikonia: omg, are you 13 years old .. maybe this is why :D
[10:33] <giggazilla> I'm looking for some help with the ubuntu 11.04
[10:33] <giggazilla> live cd
[10:33] <ikonia> nettezzaumana: please don't be stupid with me, my age has nothing to do with the creation od device files
[10:34] <llutz> nettezzaumana: set "options loop max_loop=64" in /etc/modprobe.d/loop.conf   and reload loop. max=8 by default
[10:34] <nettezzaumana> ikonia: if you didn't understand to Q: just don't reply
[10:34] <ikonia> nettezzaumana: I understand it fully, hence why I said I don't see why that device would exist
[10:34] <nettezzaumana> llutz: thanks i know .. would you please tell me what's the highest /dev/loopX by default in ubuntu ?
[10:35] <llutz> nettezzaumana: myx=8 so loop7
[10:35] <nettezzaumana> llutz: i have **no ubuntu right here right now
[10:35] <ikonia> nettezzaumana: you've just been give the max so work it out, it starts are 0
[10:35] <llutz> max*
[10:36] <nettezzaumana> thanks .. interesting .. on centos, suse and fedora (what i have here) is by default enabled at least 10 loopies
[10:36] <llutz> nettezzaumana: this is ubuntu :)
[10:36] <ikonia> nettezzaumana: distros can chose the default they have
[10:36] <giggazilla> I tried to boot using the live cd and it was stuck on the ubuntu logo
[10:37] <giggazilla> I was able to use esc to see it looking for /dev/sdX and it kept looping not finding anything
[10:38] <nettezzaumana> sure, i just asked, thanks
[10:38] <ikonia> nettezzaumana: fyi: centos 5 default is 8 not 10
[10:41] <nettezzaumana> q/wc
[10:42] <Samuel> Ever since Natty, Rhythmbox now gives me a bitrate for my FLAC files instead of saying "lossless". Is this a known bug?
[10:42] <bhavesh> This post on ubuntu forums shows how to compile Java files using Gedit (my fav editor) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414544
[10:42] <bhavesh> but how to do it for Java ME?
[10:42] <bhavesh> Java Micro Edition
[10:44] <Samuel> ikonia: Do you know why Rhythmbox is now telling me my bitrate for my FLAC choons?
[10:44] <ikonia> Samuel: no idea, probably just a display option
[10:44] <Samuel> ikonia: I've looked through all the options in gconf-editor and found nothing. And it only started happening since I upgraded to Natty
[10:45] <Samuel> It's making organising my music library a bloody nightmare!
[10:45] <ikonia> Samuel: gconf is for gnome, look at ryhtem box settings
[10:46] <Samuel> ikonia: I went through all the settings inside the program too.
[10:47] <giggazilla> Hmmm I guess no one knows.
[10:47] <zukihold13_> can help me?
[10:48] <zukihold13_> hello
[10:48] <JlaoShi> has anyone here done input device event mapping before?
[10:48] <JlaoShi> sorry for repeating myself (if i did)
[10:48] <Samuel> ikonia: I also tried disabling all the plugins.
[10:48] <JlaoShi> my connection is unstable
[10:49] <JlaoShi> and i dont know whether or not the channel received what i typed
[10:49] <Samuel> jiohdi: It received that last message :)
[10:49] <JlaoShi> ive got a remote control connected to a TV card, and only some of the buttons work
[10:50] <JlaoShi> but there seems to be no easy way to configure ubuntu to do what i want
[10:51] <JlaoShi> i have read quite a few howtos today, but none of them seem to fit the situation
[10:52] <JlaoShi> for instance:  most instructions suggest lirc, but the controller works without it (generating events detectable by xev), and that computer isnt connected to the internet
[10:53] <JlaoShi> so, installing packages is inconvenient
[10:54] <JlaoShi> also, some of the buttons on the controller dont generate detectable events
[10:54] <JlaoShi> but i know there are other ways to detect these events from wrangling with the extra buttons on the OLPC
[10:55] <JlaoShi> does anybody know about configuring event driven actions?
[10:55] <windparadise> hello, pls what command do we use to compress / zip a folder?
[10:57] <iivvoo> hi, how do I downgrade a package to an older version?
[10:57] <iivvoo> specifically, firefox 5 to firefox 4? There's no working firebug for 5
[10:58] <susundberg> !google apt-get downgrade
[10:58] <iivvoo> "invalid operation downgrade"
[10:59] <donkeyinspace> houston i ve got a problem, anyone couldn t be able to go beyond the motherboard logo after installing ubuntu into a pen drive?
[11:00] <koichirose> Hello. I messed up my firefox: I just updated to firefox5, but I had firefox for installed in /opt. Now I have to make "firefox" point to the new bin file.
[11:08] <brownbox> what's the harm in a disabled firewall?
[11:09] <jpds> brownbox: As long as nothing is listening on any ports, nothing.
[11:09] <brownbox> but whatever is listening, you have to poke a hole for it
[11:10] <jpds> brownbox: Yes.
[11:10] <sarit> when inserting module bnx2, can't load firmware file although it's present in /lib/firmware. Any ideas? http://imagebin.org/159467
[11:10] <brownbox> so I can just turn it off, and only activate the services I want
[11:10] <brownbox> without the hassle
[11:12] <llutz> sarit: ls -l /lib/firmware/bnx2/bnx2-mips*
[11:12] <brownbox> are there any services listening in ubuntu by default that are blocked by the default firewall?
[11:14] <llutz> brownbox: there is no "firewall" by default
[11:14] <Shelest> hi there!
[11:14] <brownbox> ah, I thought ufw began active
[11:14] <sarit> llutz: the file is present (or I'm overlooking something) http://imagebin.org/159468
[11:14] <Shelest> Is it possible to move the doc from left side to the bottom?
[11:14] <ardjan> Ok, I have been able to fix the problem with my cpu speed (it was stuck at 800Mhz)
[11:15] <ardjan> After some searching on google (which is hard on 800Mhz ;)) i found that adding processor.ignore_ppc=1 to my boot options made it work again
[11:16] <ardjan> Something with the recent kernels and my bios seems to go wrong, causing this problem
[11:16] <llutz> sarit: ls -ld /lib/firmware/bnx2
[11:17] <sarit> llutz: http://imagebin.org/159469
[11:18] <z0m81e> I am getting behaviour very similar to bug 743136 an error installing grub2 to a preseeded software raid "grub-installler /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk". Bug lists as fixed in beta2 and I am running release. Is anyone familiar with the issue or what might cause it?
[11:18] <linus> hello men and women. Now it seems like i have 100 gb missing on my hardrive, in my disk utility it says my hardraive is 498 gb and i have 396 gb free space.. and i installed ubuntu last night and have just downloaded 8gb of things
[11:18] <llutz> sarit: how did you install that firmware?
[11:19] <linus> And i was stupid when i installed ubuntu not to make two partitons one with the boot ubuntu and one with the saving space for movies and etc.
[11:20] <sarit> llutz: I copied it over from the kernel tree
[11:20] <llutz> sarit: why didn't you use the one from "linux-firmware"? i doubt it helps but try "sudo chown -R root:root /lib/firmware/bnx2"
[11:21] <GatekeeperZA> ola all please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/630748/ refusing connections
[11:23] <sarit> llutz: toying around with vanilla kernel 2.6.39.1 and "custom" initrd. Maybe I am missing some depmod equivalent for firmware?
[11:23] <ectospasm> I have two problems with my bluetooth keyboard (MS Bluetooth 6000).  It will work fine, and then it locks on a key (lllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiike tttttttthis!!!!!!!!!!!), and it becomes unusable.  The other problem is it will stop responding (usually after a period of brief inactivity).  Turning off the keyboard and turning it back on resolves both problems temporarily
[11:24] <ectospasm> I've resorted to turning off the keyboard when not in use
[11:24] <adbuntu> walls in here are getting taller
[11:24] <llutz> sarit: better ask at ##linux, vanilla kernels aren't supported here
[11:24] <sarit> llutz: thx will do
[11:26] <Luca> why when I try to update ubuntu it says
[11:26] <Luca> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[11:27] <Luca> it's 9 32bit
[11:27] <kjelle> Hello. Can I boot a ubuntu without swap? (I have 16gb ram)
[11:27] <llutz> kjelle: sure
[11:27] <mia20UK> hello :)
[11:27] <mia20UK> any guys for skype at all?
[11:27] <adbuntu> and here goes the 6:26 train to nyc. peace
[11:27] <Alvo> hi in gnome always a window pops up "unlock login keyring" how can i disable that?
[11:27] <adbuntu> i'd skype with you
[11:28] <adbuntu> but i'm pretty ugly
[11:28] <adbuntu> and i'm going through drug withdrawal
[11:28] <Luca> is anyone can reaply me please?
[11:28] <kjelle> llutz: gnome + some hacking, i guess 16gb ram is enough? :p
[11:28] <adbuntu> lol
[11:28] <llutz> kjelle: hardly :)
[11:29] <kjelle> hehe
[11:29] <kjelle> I guess spotify, vim and ssh doesnt exceed my ram
[11:29] <kjelle> I just dont want to burn off the "usual" ram = swap (16gb) of my SSD disk
[11:29] <llutz> kjelle: you always could add swapfiles if you really need swap
[11:29] <Luca> why when I try to update ubuntu it says
[11:29] <Luca> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[11:29] <kjelle> llutz: yepps
[11:29] <Luca> kjelle pelase reply me thanks
[11:30] <llutz> kjelle: only limitation is, that hibernation fails without swap-partition
[11:30] <kjelle> llutz: never used hibernation
[11:30] <kjelle> llutz: the box boots in like 21 seconds from I press power.
[11:30] <llutz> kjelle: so you'll be fine
[11:30] <artur_> hej
[11:30] <artur_> jest ktoś??
[11:30] <Luca> hey??
[11:31] <kjelle> Luca: sorry, I dont know. I would try to google for it. :-)
[11:31] <Luca> ok thanks kjelle
[11:31] <Travis-42> What program do I use on Ubuntu 10.04 to read "mail" put in /var/mail ? Everything ? I read says use the command "mail", but no command is found and I can't find a package for that command either.
[11:31] <llutz> Travis-42: bsd-mailx
[11:32] <genii-around> Travis-42: mailutils package
[11:32] <genii-around> Travis-42: It's what contains the command "mail"
[11:32] <Travis-42> thanks llutz, genii-around
[11:33] <[diablo]> afternoon guys... anyone know if apt can output a list of installed packages on a system... I need apt, NOT dpkg ... as I want to use a python apt lib... there is no dpkg lib with Ubuntu for python
[11:34] <kjelle> Does anyone know if there are any ACHI drivers default in the latest kernel (2.6.38?) for 11.04?
[11:34] <kjelle> I have a ACHI controller with an SSD which linux see (fdisk) but cant access
[11:34] <rypervenche> Luca: Pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:38] <rypervenche> [diablo]: aptitude can
[11:38] <madadam1> Hi is it possible to connect a ubuntu pc via cable to a lan and at the same time make it operate like a gateway by the wifi card?
[11:39] <[diablo]> hi rypervenche yeah... im not sure if adding aptitude to the deps is a good thing... sadly I would use dpkg if Ubuntu had a python lib
[11:39] <katsrc> do i really need to add Ubuntu Mozilla Team PPA to have Firefox update to 5.0 ?
[11:39] <rypervenche> katsrc: Yes.
[11:39] <katsrc> or should the default repos do it?
[11:39] <linus> the disk usage analyser tool does that take the swap partition in account when it shows total filesystem usage?
[11:39] <rypervenche> !info firefox | katsrc
[11:40] <rypervenche> Oh, it seems they've updated.
[11:40] <katsrc> rypervenche: thanks
[11:40] <cream> hello
[11:41] <scriptwarlock> anyone has an idea on why it goofs the conky with the unfinished application exit in ubuntu?
[11:44] <paolo> ciao
[11:44] <genii-around> !it | paolo
[11:48] <tzily> hello, is there any way i could get a list of subfolder names from a deleted folder ? like from the logs or something
[11:48] <Cradam> hi can anyone tell me how to change the appearance of ubuntu netbook?
[11:49] <loculinux> otia
[11:50] <loculinux> que de gente
[11:50] <loculinux> pero....... nadie habla
[11:50] <BlouBlou> loculinux: English here, ok?
[11:50] <BlouBlou> Thanks
[11:50] <BlouBlou> !es | loculinux
[11:50] <scriptwarlock> if you didn't include to clear the document history possibly yes you can view
[11:50] <scriptwarlock> tzily, if you didn't include to clear the document history possibly yes you can view
[11:51] <murlidhar> i have put one vcd in the cd tray but my media player opens up saying Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file.
[11:51] <murlidhar> what should i do ?
[11:51] <tzily> scriptwarlock but that folder was fully deleted
[11:52] <tzily> what history
[11:52] <scriptwarlock> murlidhar, have you tried to play it with vlc?
[11:52] <loculinux> pos no me sale na
[11:52] <murlidhar> scriptwarlock: yes
[11:52] <Luca> rypervenche:
[11:52] <scriptwarlock> tzily, provided that you opened those files it will display on the document history
[11:53] <Luca> rypervenche: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/630760/
[11:53] <Luca> sources.list
[11:53] <Luca> on etc/apt
[11:53] <tzily> scriptwarlock where do i access this document history ?
[11:53] <llutz> !jaunty
[11:53] <llutz> !upgrade | Luca
[11:54] <Luca> llutz: it give me errors
[11:54] <llutz> Luca: jaunty is dead, no more updates
[11:54] <Luca> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[11:54] <Luca> for al package
[11:54] <scriptwarlock> tzily, hmm i'm using unity so i can't exactly view where the document history, brb i'll just login to classic
[11:54] <llutz> !eol | Luca
[11:54] <llutz> Luca: yes, because jaunty is dead. you have to upgrade your installation
[11:54] <Luca> llutz, how? using EOF?
[11:55] <llutz> !upgrade | Luca
[11:55] <scriptwarlock> tzily, places > recent documents. provided you opened them
[11:56] <finallove> hello
[11:56] <finallove> look AV
[11:57] <tzily> scriptwarlock but they are like 10 files
[11:57] <Luca> llutz: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/630764/
[11:58] <Cradam> upgrading ubuntu
[11:58] <L0ki> Hi all, just checking my software centre and it is not showing any apps for purchase?
[11:58] <Luca> so llutz?
[12:00] <Luca> Cradam: I can't, it give me error
[12:00] <Cradam> Luca: i wasnt talking to you i was talking to the world
[12:00] <Luca> ah lol
[12:01] <Cradam> hmm it refused to upgrade because i have xubuntu-desktop installed
[12:01] <llutz> Luca: have you changed your sources.list as described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[12:01] <Kingsy> in my interfaces file I have this line --> iface lo inet loopback  what is loopback? shouldnt that say dhcp?
[12:02] <llutz> Kingsy: loopback is internal network-iface, its correct as it is
[12:02] <Luca> yes llutz
[12:02] <llutz> Luca: sudo apt-get update
[12:02] <Kingsy> llutz: oh, so where is the eth0 config?
[12:02] <adbuntu> mia is a hottie
[12:02] <Luca> llutz: it give me same error
[12:02] <llutz> Kingsy: networkmanager
[12:02] <Kingsy> llutz: see I want to make my local IP static
[12:03] <llutz> Luca: paste your sources.list
[12:03] <Kingsy> llutz: networkmanager? i.e a GUI ?
[12:03] <llutz> Kingsy: networkmanager, rightlick, edit connections
[12:03] <Luca> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/630768/
[12:04] <llutz> Kingsy: or use /etc/network/interfaces to configure it (man 5 interfaces for help)
[12:04] <llutz> Luca: comment out the first 3 lines
[12:04] <Luca> done
[12:04] <Luca> same error
[12:04] <Kingsy> ah man, I need to know the ip address of my isp and stuff don't i ?
[12:04] <llutz> Luca: CODENAME has to be replaced by "jaunty"
[12:05] <Kingsy> llutz: how can I find out all of the relevent addresses?
[12:05] <llutz> Kingsy: ip addr, route -n, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:06] <Kingsy> llutz: it says "invalid option route --"
[12:06] <llutz> Kingsy: those are 3 different commands
[12:08] <Kingsy> llutz: how do you know which addresses to use? for example its asking for a netmask .. I don't see that anywhere in the information those commands gave me
[12:09] <llutz> Kingsy: ip addr will give somethin like "inet 192.168.1.201/24" so subnetmask is 255.255.255.0
[12:10] <Kingsy> its 192.168.1.102/24
[12:10] <Kingsy> llutz: so its 255.255.255.0 ?
[12:10] <llutz> Kingsy: /24 is 255.255.255.0
[12:10] <Kingsy> ah ok
[12:13]  * morgan has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[12:16] <Kingsy> llutz: that broke my connection :S
[12:17] <`Lynx> i've installed ubuntu from a minimal cd with openbox and xorg only, how do i check if i need to install a driver (with the ubuntu driver checker app) or if there's updates (ubuntu update app)?
[12:17] <Kingsy> llutz: could it be cos I didnt enter anything in the DNS servers box ?
[12:17] <Kingsy> and search domains box
[12:17] <propus> hello!
[12:18] <llutz> Kingsy: you should set dns/domain
[12:18] <vu1kan> `Lynx, <sudo apt-get update> for updates, idk about the drivers
[12:18] <vu1kan> if there are updates, <sudo apt-get upgrade>
[12:18] <Kingsy> llutz: where do I get that info ? I couldnt spot it in those commands you gave me.. so I just left it out
[12:19] <lolicon> hello. I plan to buy a Thinkpad Edge E520 and run linux on it. Will it be some serious problem ?
[12:19] <llutz> Kingsy: try setting "dns-nameservers 208.67.222.222"
[12:19] <Sidewinder1> Kingsy, Your ISP should supply you with the IP addys of their DNS.
[12:20] <`Lynx> vu1kan: basically i can do "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade" as root and itd download everything if there's any automaticaly or would the upgrade gui popup like in gnome?
[12:20] <Kingsy> Sidewinder1: yeah I thougth it was ISP specific.. I have connected now, can I not run a command to find out the info I need ?
[12:20] <Guest78359> Hello, I am having issues with my wifi after installing ubuntu on my new laptop. Would anyone be able to assist me to being able to fix it? I've been at it for hours.
[12:20] <llutz> Kingsy: cat /etc/resolv.conf      from a working connection should have given you the DNS-IPs
[12:20] <Sidewinder1> Kingsy, Probablt, but I don't know what it is. :-(
[12:21] <Sidewinder1> Probably, even.
[12:21] <Kingsy> llutz: that just gives me the local ip of my router... 192.168.1.1
[12:21] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, have you installed any additional drivers or update your fresh installed ubuntu?
[12:21] <llutz> Kingsy: hence it works as dns-proxy/server
[12:22] <Guest78359> Have not installed any addition drivers except the one it told me to, of my graphics card. (It didn't show any other ones.)
[12:22] <Kingsy> llutz: so in the dns server box I just need the local router ip ?
[12:22] <vu1kan> `Lynx, if you <sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade> it'll check the repos you have loaded for new packages and prompt you for a y/n to install them
[12:22] <llutz> Kingsy: yes
[12:22] <Kingsy> llutz: and what about the search domains? the same?
[12:22] <`Lynx> vu1kan: kk
[12:22] <Guest78359> Also this is a fresh install of ubuntu, just bought the computer less than 12 hours ago.
[12:22] <llutz> Kingsy: "localdomain"  if you don't have a real local domainname
[12:22] <Sidewinder1> Kingsy, Call your ISP, they'll give you primary and secondary domain name servers.
[12:23] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, did you enable the wifi by switching it on?
[12:23] <Kingsy> k, let me enable this.. if I quit.. bad news :S
[12:23] <llutz> Sidewinder1: no need if his router does the connections and runs an own dns-server (as it apparently does)
[12:23] <Guest78359> Yes.
[12:23] <rabc> hi anyone know if ubuntu can display a log or printout of your system like a msinfo doc
[12:23] <Kingsy> seemed to work ! nice one
[12:24] <Kingsy> thanks llutz
[12:24] <llutz> np
[12:24] <Sidewinder1> llutz, That makes sense but I've always used those givin by my ISP.
[12:24] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, i presumed your using ubuntu 11.04
[12:24] <Guest78359> Yes.
[12:25] <Sidewinder1> llutz, Then again my ISP supplies the router.
[12:25] <llutz> Sidewinder1: will slow down dns-request if being behind a router with dns-proxy
[12:25] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, please post a little info on your laptop
[12:25] <Sidewinder1> llutz, Ans I believe it was already configured.
[12:25] <Guest78359> Acer Aspire 7551-7422
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> And, even.
[12:26] <llutz> Sidewinder1: it should be :) several ways to achieve a connection
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[12:26] <l1nr007> Hi, how can I add a script to services ? so that I can use it as $: sudo service SCRIPT-NAME PARAMS ?
[12:26] <dr_willis> !upstart | l1nr007
[12:26] <ikonia> l1nr007: you'd need to right an upstart script
[12:26] <dr_willis> l1nr007,  check existing /etc/init/ script and copy/edit one
[12:27] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, does the wifi led lit?.. please tag the handle you are talking
[12:27] <l1nr007> does the upstart apply on all current & new users on machine ?
[12:27] <dr_willis> l1nr007,  they are system services normally. so yes.
[12:27] <l1nr007> you mean I copy the file to /etc/init
[12:27] <l1nr007> ?
[12:28] <M1_> Why does my Ubuntu try to open an executable (.bin) file in text editor when I click on it? And how can I change this? (permission to execute is already set)
[12:28] <dr_willis> l1nr007,  You make a proper init script that you put in /etc/init
[12:28] <Guest78359> Not sure how to tag. Also, not sure, wifi networks wont show, all grayed out. Only "enable wifi / enable network" able to be selected.
[12:28] <ikonia> M1_: the bin file requires a shell to run normally
[12:28] <dr_willis> M1_,  whats the bin file exactly?
[12:28] <l1nr007> in fact I need to add the ddclient (from dyndns.com)
[12:28] <dr_willis> bin = generic meaningless extension.
[12:28] <l1nr007> if you're familiar with it.. please help me out
[12:28] <dr_willis> l1nr007,  you could just run that from /etc/rc.local
[12:29] <M1_> doesn't anyone else agree that an executable file should be executed when double-clicked?
[12:29] <dr_willis> M1_,  i do not agree with that.
[12:29] <dr_willis> M1_,  you can have trash files that accidently get executable bit set all the time.
[12:29] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, I thought that "bin" stood for binary.
[12:29] <dr_willis> Sidewinder1,  and binary means very very little..
[12:29] <l1nr007> so, I should copy the ddclient to /etc/rc.local/ ?
[12:30] <dr_willis> l1nr007,  rc.local is a script  file.. read it.. edit it as needed
[12:30] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, type this on yur terminal.. fkill list
[12:30] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, rfkill list
[12:30] <dr_willis> M1_,  you can mount ntfs/vfat/ in ways that every file is 'executable' and you would not want .jpg s being 'executed' by mistake..
[12:31] <maxo> hi, are there any eucalyptus users here?
[12:32] <Kingsy> if you do useradd -d /srv/http/    <-- that wont empty the contents of that folder will it? it will just assign the user to that folder? cos it already exists you see (so I don't need the -m)
[12:32] <Guest78359> scriptwarlock, 0: acer-wireless: Wireless LAN
[12:32] <Guest78359> 	Soft blocked: yes
[12:32] <Guest78359> 	Hard blocked: no
[12:32] <Guest78359> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN
[12:32] <Guest78359> 	Soft blocked: no
[12:32] <Guest78359> 	Hard blocked: no
[12:32] <FloodBot1> Guest78359: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:33] <rabc> hi ive got a dell P4 2.8Ghz whats a good linux distro to use xubuntu, puppy, tiny core etc, im not good at command line and need GUI
[12:33] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, rfkill unblock wifi
[12:33] <maxo> does anyone here use ubuntu enterprise/cloud?
[12:33] <ikonia> rabc: you should have no problem with any modern distro assuming you have ram and a graphics card
[12:33] <dr_willis> rabc,  most all come with gui.. and you should spend time learning the cli.
[12:33] <dr_willis> rabc,  ubuntu can work well on that.
[12:34] <Guest78359> scriptwarlock, didn't do anything.
[12:34] <dr_willis> rabc,  i doubt if you will want to spend the timne learning the quirks of puppy or tiny core linux
[12:34] <maxo> my question is - if you terminate an eucalyptus instance, all data is lost. Is there a way round this?
[12:34] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, is this the same machine you are using?
[12:34] <rabc> ok thanks dr_willis, ikonia
[12:34] <Guest78359> yes, I am connected via ethernet cable.
[12:34] <l1nr007> thanks guys... I found one in the repository :)
[12:34] <rabc> what about xubuntu
[12:35] <dr_willis> rabc,  what about it.. use it if you want.
[12:35] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, try to reboot
[12:35] <dr_willis> rabc,  you can install xubuntu desktop on ubuntu if you want to try them both.. dont overlook lubuntu also
[12:35] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, then connect only thru sifi
[12:35] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, then connect only thru wifi
[12:36] <Guest78359> scriptwarlock, I've rebooted and connected through just wifi dozens of times. I've been at this for about 10 hours. My drivers were not compatible or something.
[12:36] <Luca> llutz thanks so much
[12:36] <Luca> it worked
[12:36] <rabc> ok thanks dr_willis i tried latest ubuntu and it was slow, is it possible to for a minimal install with ubuntu
[12:36] <Luca> you're the best :-)
[12:36] <dr_willis> rabc,  if you found it slow.. you proberly needed more ram. or proper video card drivers
[12:36] <scriptwarlock> after you issued those command try to reboot
[12:36] <vu1kan> how would <grep -v [term]> translate into regex?
[12:37] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, after you issued those commands try to reboot and connect
[12:37] <Guest78359> scriptwarlock, ok I'll try it, if it didn't work, I'll be back.
[12:37] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, k
[12:37] <rabc> thx dr_willis much appreciated
[12:37] <dr_willis> rabc,  the lightest 'full featured' ubuntu variant would be Lubuntu.
[12:37] <mrpinky> hey, could somebody 'echo $GST_PLUGIN_PATH' and 'echo $GST_PLUGIN_SYSTEM_PATH' to see if either of those are defined on their ubuntu?
[12:38] <rabc> k thanks
[12:39] <fr00zz> Good afternoon to y'all
[12:40] <katsrc> so I found the policy change that effected the Firefox update: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ubuntu-update-policy-change-probably-good-thing
[12:40] <katsrc> i was just wondering is this limited to Mozilla Firefox?
[12:40] <wifi-issues> scriptwarlock, didnt work.
[12:40] <katsrc> can we see updates for other software too?
[12:40] <katsrc> like LibreOffice
[12:40] <scriptwarlock> Guest78359, rfkill list again
[12:41] <M1_> How can I install the latest Sun (Oracle) java version?
[12:41] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, rfkill list again
[12:41] <zaytsev> hi! is there a way to disable avahi nowadays? /etc/default/avahi no longer exists
[12:41] <wifi-issues> soft block is still in place
[12:41] <dr_willis> M1_,  its in the partners repository
[12:41] <dr_willis> !java | M1_
[12:41] <Kingsy> can someone help me with useradd .. its not working the way I thought it would
[12:41] <M1_> thanks..
[12:41] <zaytsev> on the other hand I can't remove --purge it because wise maintainers depend unrelated packages on it
[12:41] <akshatj> sun loo
[12:42] <akshatj> *lol
[12:42] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  perhaps you should use adduser instead?
[12:42] <wifi-issues> scriptwarlock, softblock for acer-wireless: wireless lan is in place.
[12:42] <Kingsy> useradd -d /srv/http/ qp; passwd qp; su qp; I don't start in /srv/http
[12:42] <Kingsy> dr_willis: sorry yeah thats what I meant (just a typo) I have been using adduser
[12:42] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, does it means all are now "no"?
[12:43] <wifi-issues> Nope, Soft block is yes.
[12:43] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, then it is still blocked
[12:43] <Kingsy> dr_willis: what am doing wrong? from those commands I am using above
[12:43] <wifi-issues> scriptwarlock, softblock is yes for the acer-wireless wiressless lan. No for the rest.
[12:43] <wifi-issues> scriptwarlock, I tried to tell you that it didn't do anything last time when I entered that terminal code to unblock it.
[12:44] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  check the /etc/ files that should have been made I guess.  it could be permissions in /srv/ that may be the issue if it existed beforhand.
[12:44] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  try a simple 'login thatusername' instead of su
[12:44] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, what was the terminal command again if you can recall
[12:44] <foufis> hi is there a way to find the UUID number of a newly installed cd  rom drive?? sudo blkid does not report it...
[12:45] <Kingsy> dr_willis: yeah well it does exist so it could be that, /srv/http/ is owned by root:root
[12:45] <wifi-issues> I believe you said rfkill list unblock. Lemme scroll up and see what I entered in terminal.
[12:45] <foufis> i need to add it to the /etc/fstab file
[12:45] <wifi-issues> rfkill unblock wifi
[12:45] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, no it sould be rfkill unblock wifi
[12:45] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  i woudl think it would be yourusername:yourusername
[12:45] <buzz8> hey guuys I need help
[12:45] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, rfkill unblock wifi
[12:45] <wifi-issues> and it didnt do anything
[12:45] <Kingsy> dr_willis: yeah, do you have to do this before you add the user?
[12:45] <buzz8> I did something wrong trying to upgrade the ALSA drivers and now my sound doesn't work
[12:46] <scriptwarlock> then after issuing those commands try to check if it is now "no"
[12:46] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issuesthen after issuing those commands try to check if it is now "no"
[12:46] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  i would think it wouldent matter. I thought adduser made the dirs if they dident exist.. so if they DID exist.. you would proberly have to fix the permissions
[12:46] <buzz8> can anybody guide me through the issue?
[12:46] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, then after issuing those commands try to check if it is now "no"
[12:46] <jeru-zw> are there drivers for the canon mg5240
[12:46] <jeru-zw> it's a printer/scanner
[12:46] <wifi-issues> scriptwarlock, still the same. "Yes" "no" | "no" "no"
[12:46] <dr_willis> jeru-zw,  canon can have very poor linux support. Check the linuxprinting.org (or somthing like that) web suite and the cups.org web site to see how suypported it is.
[12:47] <Kingsy> dr_willis: well you cant do it before the user exists cos chown says "invalid user"
[12:47] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, to check "rfkill list" to unblock "rfkill unblock wifi"
[12:47] <JessicaRN> a little off-topic: my daughter has hosed her music collection and I'm trying to fix it.  Is there any ubuntu util to open up a M4A if you can no long access the license files?
[12:47] <dr_willis> jeru-zw,  for the scanner - check the sane web site.
[12:47] <dr_willis> JessicaRN,  DRM protected files - proberly not.
[12:47] <Kingsy> dr_willis: if you try and add the user to a directory that does exist but its root:root it doesnt changes the permissions, cos if you remove the user it says "/srv/http/ is not owned by user"
[12:47] <jeru-zw> dr_willis thanks
[12:48] <JessicaRN> whatchu talkin 'bout, willis?  serious?
[12:48] <wifi-issues> scriptwarlock, still the same as it was, Yes, no, no no. It just clears the terminal line as if you were to press enter, doesn't do anything.
[12:48] <dr_willis> JessicaRN,  'DRM' = Dirty Rotten Money :)
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> JessicaRN, You could always try to open it in Totem.
[12:48] <Kingsy> dr_willis: so what would you do?
[12:48] <JessicaRN> No one has "fixed" the problem yet?
[12:49] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  change the permissions after adding the user then>
[12:49] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, ok try this again
[12:49] <dr_willis> JessicaRN,  the fix is to stop buying drm protected stuff from my point of view.
[12:49] <JessicaRN> yeah
[12:49] <dr_willis> JessicaRN,  where did this file ven come from?
[12:49] <JessicaRN> i agree.  I never do, myself
[12:50] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, rfkill unblock all  ----  rfkill unblock wifi --- rfkill list and post the result.. be sure the wifi button was enabled
[12:50] <Kingsy> dr_willis: then what?
[12:50] <JessicaRN> my daughter has bought them from various sources over the years.  they are not sorted by vendor
[12:50] <dr_willis> i have several  'legal movies' that came as parts of special offers.. that basically i cant play on anything i have
[12:50] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  then see if the login thing works.
[12:50] <Kingsy> ah ok
[12:50] <dr_willis> Logical :)
[12:50] <wifi-issues> scriptwarlock, commands didnt work, wifi button enabled, results are: yes, no, no, no. Same...
[12:51] <JessicaRN> (funny, Dr willis is helping nurse Jessica)
[12:51] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, a detailed post of the result
[12:51] <Kingsy> dr_willis: ah ok, it worked.. nice one thanks
[12:52] <wifi-issues> 0: acer-wiresless: Wireless Lan Soft blocked: yes Hard blocked: no 1: phy0: Wireless Lan Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no
[12:52] <vincentgotajob> can the file in the openoffice be saved as .doc?
[12:53] <vincentgotajob> I can open it in the window cause it is .odt
[12:53] <vincentgotajob> I cant
[12:54] <dr_willis> vincentgotajob,  openoffice exists for windows also.. and i think OO can export to .doc
[12:54] <JessicaRN> are there any loopback tools that can do this?  I guess that doesn't make sense, does it?  You need to be able to play it to loop it back.  Any other solutions?
[12:54] <dr_willis> or docx
[12:54] <emr> hi, in nautilus how i can activate address bar?
[12:54] <dr_willis> emr,  ctrl-l
[12:54] <vincentgotajob> thanks dr_willis
[12:55] <emr> dr_willis, thank you how can keep permanent
[12:55] <vincentgotajob> I just found that I miss some items in OO,I can save it as .doc
[12:56] <dr_willis> emr,  theres some gconf setting for that..   ubuntu-tweak may have a check box to enable it also.
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> JessicaRN, Have you had a look at FFMPG and its GUI, Winff?
[12:56] <dr_willis> Not sure of any other gui ways to toggle that.
[12:57] <emr> dr_willis thanks
[12:57] <JessicaRN> side: no I haven't.  do they need the license?
[12:58] <Sidewinder1> JessicaRN, Or maybe it's FFMPEG, I forget, but you maybe able to open it and re-encode it.
[12:58] <Sidewinder1> JessicaRN, No, it's foss.
[12:58] <Alvo> how can i make my modifications in /etc/resolv.conf durable? everytime i logon these entries are resetted by the networkmenager
[12:58] <wifi-issues> Did you receive my message scriptwarlock?
[12:59] <binni> can I make a playlist in banshee that includes both "vidoes" and "music" (videos and audio files)?
[12:59] <JessicaRN> foss?  is that the app name?
[13:00] <Kohta> Neato
[13:00] <genii-around> JessicaRN: foss means fully open source software
[13:00] <Pici> !FOSS
[13:00] <JessicaRN> *duh*  sorry
[13:00] <binni> genii-around: What? no it doesn't, it means Free & Open Source Software
[13:00] <Pici> Hrm. That wasn't as informative as I thought it would be.
[13:01] <binni> the combination of the terms Free Software and Open Source Software.
[13:02] <the_german> hi @ all! I am trying to set up lirc with an "igorplugusb" IR Receiver. I use a "Tevion MD 41666" (not sure whether it is senden RC-5 signals). "irw" isnt giving me any input signals. Any ideas? --> Already tried #lirc
[13:02] <JessicaRN> yeah, got it now.
[13:02] <Sidewinder1> JessicaRN, Have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ffmpeg  It's also in the repositories.
[13:02] <JessicaRN> i'm a little slow on the uptake.  still early here.
[13:02] <genii-around> binni: Aaah, my mistake then. I always thought the f was for "fully"
[13:02] <dr_willis> Im not sure how well ffmpeg can 'remove' drm protexction. i guess it depends on the protection
[13:02]  * genii-around makes more coffee and starts consuming it
[13:03] <JessicaRN> no one has broken drm yet?
[13:03]  * Sidewinder1 Is workin' on his second cup-o-coffee.
[13:03] <emr> how i can enable side pane permanently?
[13:03] <emr> i mean extra pane (sorry)
[13:03] <Sidewinder1> JessicaRN, Yes they have; but, we can't discuss it here. ;-)
[13:03] <JessicaRN> LOL
[13:04] <JessicaRN> big brother is listening
[13:04] <dr_willis> JessicaRN,  thers 1000's of kinds of DRM.
[13:04] <JessicaRN> all of them the work of SATAN!!!
[13:04] <dr_willis> and basically its against the DMCA to do so.
[13:04] <JessicaRN> f*** the DCMA
[13:04] <dr_willis> and its OT for this channel.
[13:04] <io> !offtopic
[13:05] <Sidewinder1> JessicaRN, Nah, it's just Pici. :-) Side waves...
[13:05] <JessicaRN> side: can you IM me?
[13:05] <dr_willis> JessicaRN,  so go buy the cd's  i guess.
[13:05] <JessicaRN> she already bought the dang music once...
[13:05] <dr_willis> JessicaRN,   techincally you 'licensed' the music.
[13:06] <wifi-issues> Is there anyone here who can assist me with a wifi connection issue? I am soft blocked from 11.04, rfkill command will not work.
[13:06] <b33f> Hi i was wondering if any one is using ubuntu in dual-boot with SSD's, if so shoot me a pm
[13:06] <wifi-issues> rf kill all / wifi will not work.
[13:06] <dr_willis> b33f,  shouldent matter if its ssd or not. clarify the probelm to the channel.
[13:06] <b33f> no real problem just wondering about partition alignment and so forth
[13:07] <dr_willis> thats the reason i see gparted  always put a 1mb or so 'space' between disk partitions these days I thouight.
[13:08] <dr_willis> bbl. off to the Pharmacy
[13:08] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, iwlist scan
[13:08] <b33f> mm and what about wear on the ssd is it overhyped?
[13:08] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, sorry im in the middle of concert
[13:09] <wifi-issues> lo interface doesnt support scanning etho "same message" wlan- no scan results
[13:10] <b33f> anyways if anyone feels like sharing their experience and performance over time shoot me a pm, i can't really watch the main channel for extended periods of time :))
[13:12] <wifi-issues> scriptwarlock, fixed it by black listing acer-wmi to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf with: sudo su            echo "blacklist acer-wmi" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf                       exit
[13:13] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, oh there you go congrats on figuring out
[13:13] <scriptwarlock> wifi-issues, sorry very busy here
[13:15] <zOOd> hi, I'm trying to use a shared directory, but it doesnt show in "network". More over, adfter an smbclient -L localhost, Server and Master remain empty. Any help welcome.
[13:15] <neoclass> hello
[13:15] <neoclass> anyone has invit for quora ?
[13:15] <neoclass> please :)
[13:16] <Pici> neoclass: That has nothing to do with this channel, please stop.
[13:16] <dr_willis> b33f,  i think those ssd;s are so new.. its hard to tell how long they will really last.  I bet marketing has the lifetime over-estimated
[13:16] <neoclass> ok, sorry
[13:17] <go7enks_> hey guys
[13:17] <go7enks_> need some help
[13:17] <go7enks_> i was trying to fix an issue with my laptop mic (upgrading alsa drivers) and something went wrong
[13:17] <go7enks_> now my sound doesn't work at all
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:17] <go7enks_> this is what I was doing: 1. download the patch here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ony-Vaio.patch  2. download AlsaUpgrade-1.0.24-2.tar.gz  3. copy both files to /opt  4. cd /opt 5. sudo tar xzvf AlsaUpgrade-1.0.24-2.tar.gz 6. sudo chmod +x AlsaUpgrade-1.0.24-2.sh 7. sudo ./AlsaUpgrade-1.0.24-2.sh -d 8. sudo patch /opt/Alsa-1.0.24/alsa-driver-1.0.24/sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c < 0001-ALSA-HDA-Fix-single-internal-mic-on-A
[13:17] <dr_willis> zOOd,  ive noticed those tools  and samba tends to not see all my shares. I just enter the actual path in the gnome file manager - ctrl-l    smb://servername/sharename   and it sees them here.. I naver seen them when i browse the network.
[13:18] <b33f> dr_willis, well i'v been looking over IDF2010 track on ssd's and they seem pretty optimistic
[13:18] <Coffe> Hello , playing with ipv6 ..  seems like i cant get my clients to send there hostname to dhcpdv6 server so they register in the dns, anyone know hos to solve this ?
[13:18] <io> go7enks_: and at what stage did 'something go wrong'?
[13:18] <dr_willis> b33f,  im waiting for the new mini sized standazrd tio come out. :) so i can have s3everal on the mb.  - but i need space space and space,. right now. not speed.
[13:18] <go7enks_> I got stuck at number 8 on that list
[13:18] <etorix_> as long as we're offtopic
[13:19] <io> go7enks_: can you explain 'got stuck'?
[13:19] <zOOd> dr_willis: thx, it works :-D
[13:19] <go7enks_> yeahgimme one sec
[13:19] <io> go7enks_: also please use pastebin if you're going to be pasting a lot of text
[13:20] <dr_willis> zOOd,  yea. samba browsing has been breaking worse and worse in each new ubuntu release ive tried.. not sure if its any better in other disrtos.. samba/windows 7 seems to make it even worse.
[13:20] <go7enks_> how do I use pastbin?
[13:20] <b33f> dr_willis, well i'm into pentesting and VM i intend to put a SSD in a asus laptop i bought
[13:20] <io> !paste | go7enks_
[13:20] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:21] <ntr0py> Which version of automake is the most common one to use?
[13:22] <io> !info automake | ntr0py
[13:22] <go7enks_> io: I sent the command at poin 9 of the list above and got this:   alsa-driver-1.0.24 make failed
[13:22] <etorix_> http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/defence-and-security-blog/2011/jun/20/nato-and-libya-and-gaddafi-and-airstrikes    NATO has bombed libya 11,500 times.,  11,500 sorties by their own account.  This is NAKED AGRESSION AND TERRORISM
[13:23] <ntr0py> thanks the automake pkg is working...
[13:24] <io> 4/sb end
[13:25] <io> go7enks_: the list was incomplete, could you pastebin it or show a link to it please?
[13:25] <go7enks_> here's the link
[13:25] <go7enks_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10965856&postcount=76
[13:27] <buttermilcher> hi
[13:28] <buttermilcher> can i use !! in an alias or function somehow?
[13:30] <buttermilcher> quit
[13:31] <go7enks_> io: in case you missed it http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10965856&postcount=76
[13:32] <perlsyntax> If i want to have all the file to gtk2 for perl from source i need to do this.apt-get build-dep gtk2?
[13:32] <perlsyntax> if i am right.
[13:33] <perlsyntax> ?
[13:33] <Pici> perlsyntax: For perl? build-dep installs all of the dependencies needed to compile the gtk2 package from source.
[13:34] <perlsyntax> like this apt-get build-dep gtk2 right that what you mean?
[13:35] <Pici> perlsyntax: Firstly, 'gtk2' isn't a valid package name. Secondly, that doesn't have anything to do with perl,
[13:35] <perlsyntax> i see
[13:35] <Pici> perlsyntax: What are you actually trying to do?
[13:36] <perlsyntax> i try to install the perl gtk2 from cpan.
[13:36] <dudi> hello I need little help with installing PPA
[13:36] <perlsyntax> i just want to make sure i got all the package for it so i can build it with cpan.
[13:37] <dudi> I want to install that https://launchpad.net/~manu-tm/+archive/newsrssticker
[13:37] <Pici> perlsyntax: libgtk2-perl is in the repositires.
[13:37] <perlsyntax> i know that.i compile perl from source code.
[13:37] <dudi> I add those two lines in source.list
[13:38] <Pici> perlsyntax: Then if you want the build dependencies for that package do: sudo apt-get build-dep libgtk2-perl
[13:38] <go7enks__> io: are you there?
[13:38] <perlsyntax> thanks
[13:38] <Pici> dudi: which two lines?
[13:39] <go7enks__> anybody can help me with a sound issue?
[13:39] <dudi> Pici, those "Technical detals about this PPA" (natty 11.04)
[13:39] <Pici> dudi: Okay, and what issue are you havign?
[13:39] <go7enks__> please?
[13:39] <dudi> apparently I add PPA to system but then what?
[13:40] <Pici> dudi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install news
[13:41] <go7enks__> i was trying to install an upgrade to the alsa driver yesterday (following these instruction) but got stuck at point 9. now my sound doesn't work at all, whereas before it was working
[13:41] <go7enks__> anybody knows how to fix this?
[13:42] <dudi> Pici, thanks I for help it works :) but how you know that I had to type " news "
[13:42] <Pici> dudi: Because thats the name of the package that is published by that ppa.
[13:43] <Neosano> So I was installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, download has finished and it started to unpack things, when suddenly it disconnected me from the internet. flash player and other things failed to install. Now what?
[13:43] <dudi> Pici, damn right I didn't connect "Package" at the bottom of the site
[13:43] <dudi> thanks
[13:44] <go7enks__> nobody can help me? :=
[13:45] <odix> anybody know why apt-get update won't work?
[13:46] <Neosano> odix, what does it say?
[13:46] <odix> it just sits at 0% and never connects
[13:46] <Neosano> odix, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-313570.html
[13:46] <Neosano> maybe it will help ya
[13:46] <EgyParadox> odix: Do you  have proxy configuration?
[13:47] <odix> no
[13:47] <odix> my network is up
[13:48] <Pici> odix: what release of Ubuntu, can you ping and resolve the dns name the archive server that you're trying to connect to?
[13:48] <odix> hmm
[13:48] <odix> it seems my network is fluctuation
[13:48] <odix> fluctuating*
[13:49] <odix> its connected to a cisco switch...then goes to a load balancer..brb
[13:49] <Sovek> Hey everyone, slight issue. Running Ubuntu 11.04 and would like to install Firefox 5, but I can't seem to be able to do so
[13:49] <Neosano> Sovek why?
[13:49] <Neosano> Sovek there's a ppa, did you try it?
[13:49] <Sovek> ppa?
[13:49] <genii-around> !ff5
[13:50] <stanman246>  /join #joomla
[13:50] <iceroot> major-update of firefox within a normal ubuntu-release?
[13:50] <stanman246> lol
[13:50] <stanman246> sry
[13:50] <Neosano> and still, how can I finish installation of ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[13:50] <Sovek> when I input tar xjf firefox-*.tar.bz2 like the website says, it does nothing
[13:50] <Neosano> iceroot, it's not that major really
[13:51] <Neosano> Sovek just use the ppa!
[13:51] <iceroot> Neosano: but that is not the normal way
[13:51] <iceroot> Neosano: its not a sec-update
[13:51] <odix> ifconfig gives me a router ip..
[13:51] <odix> still cant connect
[13:51] <odix> dhclient works
[13:53] <Sovek> PPA does not have Natty
[13:54] <madlatvian> anyone got a samsung series 9 laptop
[13:54] <Neosano> Sovek, http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/05/install-firefox-5-beta-in-ubuntu-1104.html
[13:54] <iceroot> !anyone | madlatvian
[13:54] <braunstein> l
[13:55] <Sidewinder1> Neosano, Perhaps, in Synaptic you can "Fix Broken Packages"? If not you could always "Completely Remove" restricted extras then "Reinstall".
[13:55] <eracoon> is there a tool in ubuntu to detect the sexual orientation of a fruitfly?
[13:56] <Pici> Sovek: Firefox 5 should come down as a security update in Natty. Just do you normal package update procedure and you should be good.
[13:56] <Pici> Sovek: No extra steps needed.
[13:56] <big_t> trying to convert my neighbor to ubuntu, he has some MSI board and a USB keyboard, I see no LEGACY USB SUPPORT option in the bios :( keyboard works in bios, but on boot grub hangs. Any of you ubuntu helpers seen this issue?
[13:56] <bazhang> eracoon, no of course not
[13:56] <Sovek> its not showing up, you would think but no
[13:57] <Neosano> Sidewinder1, doesn't work, ubuntu-restricted-extras is a meta package :|
[13:57] <Pici> Sovek: Its possible your mirror hasn't gotten it yet. How did you check for updates?
[13:57] <Neosano> Sidewinder1, so I can remove it, but it would do nothing!
[13:57] <lollo8> hi guys
[13:57] <Sovek> update package manager
[13:57] <Pici> Sovek: And which mirror are you using?
[13:58] <eracoon> ow... thats a shame
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> Neosano, Sorry then, that's about as far as I can go. :-(
[13:58] <eracoon> is there a tool then to count the spots on a giraffe
[13:58] <bazhang> eracoon, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:58] <eracoon> apolegize I must
[13:59]  * Sovek isn't sure
[13:59] <Sovek> Pici, I'm a Linux noob....
[13:59] <Pici> Sovek: Can you pastebin the output of this command for me: apt-cache policy firefox
[13:59] <Pici> Sovek: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:00] <Sovek> gimme a sec using another repository that is supposed to work
[14:00] <Sovek> my terminal is tied up ATM
[14:00] <OerHeks> Sovek, you can open as many terminals as you like
[14:02] <alienmindtrick> how do i prevent having 3 popup login boxes every time i start my machine?
[14:02] <Sovek> and OerHeks, no you can't not under Natty
[14:02] <Sovek> which is why I dislike the unity interface
[14:02] <bazhang> Sovek, sure you can
[14:02] <lollo8> guys I need some help
[14:03] <bazhang> lollo8, with what
[14:03] <alienmindtrick> sovek: yes, i changed mine from unity to gnome3. far better desktop, imo
[14:03] <Pici> Sovek: You don't need to use unity if you don't like it, just pick Ubuntu Classic from the login menu
[14:03] <alienmindtrick> +1
[14:03] <spacebug-> Sovek: you can run as many as terminals as you like
[14:03] <lollo8> I was trying tu upgrade the ALSA drivers following this instructions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10965856&postcount=76 (in the quote)
[14:04] <lollo8> but at point 9 I got stuck
[14:04] <lollo8> now sound doesn't work at all
[14:04] <dudi> Pici, another problem - I use wrong number of pixels and now my bar is under unity top bar
[14:04] <lollo8> i'm lost
[14:04] <spacebug-> middle click the terminal icon in the launcher to run a new instance
[14:04] <madlatvian> xsessions are good for launching terminals
[14:04] <bazhang> lollo8, and it worked before the forums post work?
[14:04] <dudi> Pici, I try re-install but it didn't work
[14:05] <lollo8> sound worked
[14:05] <lollo8> yeah
[14:05] <lollo8> that was ti fix the mic
[14:05] <bazhang> lollo8, then why do that
[14:05] <Pici> !enter
[14:05] <dudi> 1
[14:05] <lollo8> i did it to fix the mic, which didnt work
[14:05] <Sovek> wait, Pici, what login menu?
[14:05] <coz_> lollo8,  ooo,,, even that post  says it didnt work....
[14:05] <Pici> !classic | Sovek
[14:06] <lollo8> well that's me in the forums
[14:06] <lollo8> it worked for everybody else
[14:06] <coz_> lollo8,  ah  ok
[14:06] <alienmindtrick> ubottu: if i've pasted a multiline post to http://goo.gl/ixcN9...what then?
[14:06] <lollo8> i guess i just have to reinstall the old alsa driver
[14:06] <alienmindtrick> :0
[14:06] <lollo8> how do i do that?
[14:06] <coz_> lollo8,  i would also go to the #alsa channel as well
[14:06] <alienmindtrick> bot or not, you're smarter than me, ubottu!
[14:07] <lollo8> oh ok, ill go to the alsa channel
[14:07] <lollo8> thanks
[14:07] <coz_> lollo8,  and the #pulseaudio channel
[14:07] <Neosano> ubuntu-restricted-extras failed to install(internet connection went down), how can I reinstall it?
[14:07] <coz_> Neosano,  did you try installing again?
[14:07] <bazhang> Neosano, it failed? then its not installed. try again
[14:07] <Pici> alienmindtrick: If you're trying to share a paste with us, you need to give us the url of the page that came up after you pressed the button on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:08] <coz_> Neosano,  if it doesnt from the terminal    , open synaptic package manager , hit search and type in ubuntu restricted
[14:08] <dudi_> So what Pici have any idea?
[14:08] <alienmindtrick> Pici:  thanks.  here it is:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/630799/
[14:08] <Neosano> bazhang, coz_, it downloaded the packages, then while installing I was disconnected from the internet. for example flashplugin-installer uses internet while installing, now nothing works but the ubuntu-restricted extras is installed
[14:08] <Pici> dudi: I don't use unity myself, so I'm not the best person to ask about it.  Just ask the channel and if someone knows they will respond.
[14:09] <alienmindtrick> Pici: i think that i should add more information to that and try again. wait one, please.
[14:09] <coz_> Neosano,  try   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  from terminal ,, see if it asks you to do anything
[14:09] <Neosano> coz_, says it is installed
[14:10] <coz_> Neosano,   hmm   ok open synaptic package manager and search for it,, if it is ticked,, mark it for removal , then reinstall it
[14:11] <Neosano> coz_, it installs/reinstalls fine.
[14:11] <GregAce> hi people
[14:11] <Neosano> coz_, but I don't get the needed packages reinstalled
[14:11] <coz_> Neosano,   are you sure flas is not installed?
[14:11] <Pici> Neosano: which package(s) failed to install?
[14:12] <Pici> Neosano: Doing a: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename    should fix them
[14:12] <coz_> Neosano,  open firefox,, in the address field type    about:plugins
[14:12] <Neosano> Pici, I don't know, all packages that download something when installing. for example flashplugin-installer, but not only, I've seen several fail messages
[14:12] <Neosano> coz_, I'm sure it's not installed
[14:13] <largo> connect irc.anonops.li
[14:13] <Pici> Neosano: flashplugin-installer and ttf-mscorefonts-installer are the the packages that I believe  need an internet connection to install. try reinstalling both of those packages using the method I stated above.
[14:13] <Neosano> Pici, it reinstalled ubuntu-restricted-extras package, nothing else was reinstalled
[14:14] <Pici> Neosano: no no.... do: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[14:15] <Neosano> Pici, yeah, that's going to work. are you sure other packages were installed correctly?
[14:15] <alienmindtrick> OK, take 2:  SNAP!   http://paste.ubuntu.com/630805/
[14:16] <Pici> Neosano: I'm pretty sure. Those are the only two -installer packages that get installed by u-r-e
[14:16] <dr_willis> i was thinking you could do dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-installer   but i guess its the same differance
[14:16] <Neosano> ok! thanks a lot :)
[14:17] <cRe3p> just testing my new dev (irc client) is it working ?
[14:17] <Pici> alienmindtrick: I think you mentioned earlier that you had installed the gnome3 ppa? If so, that is unsupported, we don't know what changes and/or problems that will cause for you.
[14:17] <Pici> !test | cRe3p
[14:17] <coz_> cRe3p,  I can see you
[14:17] <cloventt> cRe3p: I can't.
[14:17] <cRe3p> ok thanks a lot everybody
[14:17] <cRe3p> it works !
[14:18] <alienmindtrick> Pici: this problem started when i downloaded 11.04, and i didn't change the gnome3 ppa until yesterday. this problem predates that.
[14:18] <alienmindtrick> Pici: and i've just discovered that now i can't unlock ANY keys
[14:19] <isleshocky77> Is there a way to restrict a specific authorized public key to only a certain ip address? Case in point I want to set up a public/private key for my laptop to my desktop without a passphrase, but only allow to be used from the local ip address.
[14:20] <coz_> isleshocky77,  mm  I think that is beyong my skillset,, if no one can answer here you can also try the ##linux channel
[14:20] <coz_> beyond
[14:21] <isleshocky77> coz_: Thanks. I was looking for a an alt room as well. I tried #ssh but there were only 2 other people in there.
[14:21] <Pici> alienmindtrick: did you try any of these fixes before you installed the ppa?
[14:21] <alienmindtrick> Pici: yes
[14:21] <llutz> isleshocky77: prepend         from="trusted.domain.com"      to the key in authorized_keys
[14:22] <arch_is_awesome> Hello, everyone.
[14:22] <coz_> hey
[14:22] <Pici> isleshocky77: fyi: #openssh is probably the best channel to ask in, not #ssh
[14:22] <alienmindtrick> Pici: i also discovered, and should have added this to the longer post, that even if i unlock a key, when i restart my machine, it's locked again
[14:22] <DrHalan> hey, i want to develop a website in JSP/Java Servlets using eclipse. On windows i would install Java EE but on Linux theres only a shellscript to do that...don't want to install it via shellscript. Any help on that?
[14:23] <isleshocky77> llutz: Awesome if that works! Where did you find that? I don't immediately see anything on the google or in the man pages.
[14:23] <llutz> isleshocky77: http://www.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/jpmg/ssh/authorized_keys_howto.html
[14:23] <Pici> alienmindtrick: I don't have a desktop install here to test along with you, but I'd make sure that your gnome config files in your home directory are all owned by you.
[14:24] <isleshocky77> llutz: Thanks!
[14:26] <alienmindtrick> Pici: do you have a link to how i'd do that, or can you tell me how?
[14:28] <arch_is_awesome> This channel has 1548 users???!!!
[14:28] <dr_willis> arch_is_awesome,  its a slow day
[14:31] <nyuszika7h> Hi, does Ubuntu have an /etc/inittab file?
[14:31] <llutz> isleshocky77: btw, "man ssh-keygen" "-O contraint"
[14:31] <dr_willis> !inittab
[14:32] <nyuszika7h> Mkaysi: ^
[14:32] <dr_willis> nyuszika7h,  thats the old sysv method.. ubuntu uses upstart
[14:32] <nyuszika7h> dr_willis: ah, ok, Arch uses inittab
[14:32] <dr_willis> arch is weird in many other ways....
[14:32] <dr_willis> :)
[14:33] <Toph2> drdo you help develope linux?
[14:33] <Toph2> dr_willis,,, ?
[14:33] <dr_willis> Toph2,  Huh?
[14:33] <isleshocky77> llutz: I'm not seeing anything on that in my man.
[14:33] <Toph2> like, do you work on code for some linux disto?
[14:33] <nyuszika7h> dr_willis: for example?
[14:34] <dr_willis> Toph2,  No.
[14:34] <dr_willis> nyuszika7h,  go read the arch wiki. :)
[14:34] <Toph2> dr_willis,,, ok,, just asking because you seem so knowledgeable
[14:34] <nyuszika7h> dr_willis: their own wiki won't say it's weird :P
[14:34] <dr_willis> nyuszika7h,  their wiki is proof its weird...
[14:34] <nyuszika7h> lol
[14:35] <llutz> isleshocky77: maybe its   "-O option"     just figured a difference between man-pages squeeze/sid
[14:35] <nyuszika7h> does Ubuntu have a wiki? :P
[14:35] <dr_willis> !wiki
[14:35] <coz_> nyuszika7h,  you have already gone to #archlinux channel..yes?
[14:35] <dr_willis> theres the askubuntu.com site also.
[14:35] <go7enks> guys, I need to reinstall build-essentials package
[14:35] <isleshocky77> llutz: I thought you might of meant that. I checked, no -o -O -0
[14:35] <nyuszika7h> coz_: not yet, but I'm joined to id
[14:35] <nyuszika7h> it*
[14:35] <dr_willis> the arch wiki and gentoo wikis are often good to check out for some good info to use :)
[14:35] <Pici> !ot
[14:36] <coz_> go7enks,  sudo apt-get install --reinstall build-essential
[14:36] <ceed^> Hi, I wold like to boot one of the older kernel versions installed on my Natty laptop, but there's no menu to choose it. How do I get to/ enable that menu?
[14:36] <dr_willis> ceed^,  the /etc/default/grub file I think has a entry for the # of kernel entries to show. theres some option to show all of them.
[14:36] <llutz> isleshocky77: lets take this one :) http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/ssh-keygen/
[14:37] <alienmindtrick> how do i make sure the gnome config files in my home directory are all owned by me?
[14:37] <dr_willis> alienmindtrick,  chown them all  if you want. check ls -l output to see who they are owned by.
[14:37] <dr_willis> !chown
[14:38] <vxd_> hi all ... plz someone help me how to setup a pptp conexion (vpn) on backtrack 4 !
[14:38] <go7enks> coz_ it says it's unable to locate the package build essentials
[14:38] <alienmindtrick> dr willis: i have no idea what that meant
[14:38] <coz_> go7enks,  no  "s"  on essential
[14:38] <dr_willis> alienmindtrick,  time to read up on linux permissions and ownership then i guess.
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> !backtrack > vxd_
[14:38] <vxd_> ok cheeking your pm ubottu
[14:39] <Sidewinder1> !ubottu
[14:39] <vxd_> ubottu ok thanks
[14:39] <alienmindtrick> dr willis: it's people like you who are why ubuntu will never be a widely accepted operating system. thanks for your condescension.
[14:39] <dr_willis> alienmindtrick,  theres a reason people spend time writing these guides.
[14:39] <dr_willis> alienmindtrick,  i could give you some obscure command.. but you havent been clear ion the problem
[14:39] <alienmindtrick> dr willis: there's a reason for why this IRC channel exists
[14:40] <inashdeen> hi guys, need a guide, i had installed ubuntu several time, and now, i am having many swap on my system. need to remove the unused swap, but how to know which swap is assigned to my system? thanks in advance
[14:40] <dr_willis> ls -a shows ownership.. was that what you wanted for an answer?
[14:40] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, Guess that's what 'ya get for tryin' to hep. :-(
[14:40] <dr_willis> Sidewinder1,  yep.
[14:40] <Kyokan> Hello.  I am unable to boot because my disk won't mount after a weird crash.  I think the file system is corrupted.  Is anyone able to help please?
[14:40] <alienmindtrick> dr willis: Pici was assisting me, but apparently he left after telling me to check that i owned those files. but again, thanks so much for your  help.
[14:40] <RobinJ> i've got a dual-monitor setup with ubuntu 10.10, configured using the nvidia tool. works just fine, except that i cant dra windows across the monitors. it moves fine but when i let it go it just snaps back to the first display
[14:41] <BluesKaj> alienmindtrick, well, checkout the #windows chat to see how much better things are over there
[14:41] <Pici> alienmindtrick: Sorry, got sidetracked with real work on my end.  Did you figure things out?
[14:41] <RobinJ> any help?
[14:41] <alienmindtrick> Pici: no
[14:41] <EgyParadox> inashdeen u mean how much swap u have?
[14:41] <dr_willis> ls -al  ->   shows who owns what.  - you should see your user name shown as the owner and group.
[14:41] <alienmindtrick> BluesKaj: piss off
[14:42] <inashdeen> EgyParadox : i think its 3 or 4
[14:42] <Sidewinder1> Kyokan, You could boot to LiveCD and run fsck on the file system in questiopn.
[14:42] <inashdeen> wait
[14:42] <Sidewinder1> question, even.
[14:42] <Pici> alienmindtrick: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.config/ ~/.gnome*
[14:42] <BluesKaj> alienmindtrick, now now :)
[14:42] <Pici> alienmindtrick, BluesKaj: both of you stop it.
[14:42] <Kyokan> Sidewinder:  I am using livedisk now should i just type fsck in a terminal?
[14:42] <coz_> alienmindtrick,  language  and courtesy  :)
[14:42] <alienmindtrick> everyone has a right to defend themselves
[14:42] <ablmf333> My screen seems not big enough to show evolution's preference window.
[14:43] <inashdeen> EgyParadox : i got 5, including the latesr
[14:43] <alienmindtrick> and i wasn't the one who started the foul behavior
[14:43] <inashdeen> latest
[14:43] <ablmf333> I can't see the bottom of the email preference tab
[14:43] <ablmf333> And there's not scroll bar on it
[14:43] <Pici> !enter | inashdeen ablmf333
[14:43] <RobinJ> huh
[14:43] <dr_willis> ablmf333,  as a work around you can  alt-click anywhere in a window and drag it around.
[14:43] <RobinJ> the problem seems to be compiz
[14:43] <go7enks> thanks!
[14:43] <dr_willis> ablmf333,  is your screen res set real low?
[14:44] <hwilde> alienmindtrick, the command you need is,    sudo chown -R `whoami`:`whoami` ~/.gnome2*
[14:44] <EgyParadox> inashdeen: You've created a swap partition everytime you install ubuntu therefore u have many swap partitions?
[14:44] <EgyParadox> a new swap*
[14:44] <ablmf333> dr_willis: not, it's 13?? x 7xx
[14:44] <dr_willis> ablmf333,  thats weird.
[14:44] <alienmindtrick> hwilde: should i use that command versus Pici's, or in addition to?
[14:44] <coz_> RobinJ,   how did you set this up in nvidia-settings?   separate xscreens?
[14:44] <hwilde> alienmindtrick, just do what I said.
[14:45] <ablmf333> dr_willis: I can show you guys screen shot
[14:45] <dr_willis> alienmindtrick,  the commands do the same thing.
[14:45] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, "whoami" will tell your username on the system.
[14:45] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[14:45] <coz_> RobinJ,   you want to use twinview  from nvidia settings,, not separate xscreens
[14:45] <RobinJ> i did
[14:45] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, Then use Pici's chown command with sudo.
[14:45] <demonspork> how do I keep grub2 from listing all the available kernels when I run update-grub? I would rather it list only the 2 previous kernels, and I don't know how to do that in grub2 yet
[14:45] <RobinJ> compiz seems to be the problem, the wobbly windows thing snaps them back
[14:46] <llutz> demonspork: remove old kernels
[14:46] <coz_> RobinJ,   compiz isnt the problem
[14:46] <coz_> RobinJ,  this is your driver set up
[14:46] <RobinJ> it is, when i turn tehe wobbly windows plugin of there' sno problem anymore xd
[14:46] <pc-eco> hola
[14:46] <bazhang> !es | pc-eco
[14:46] <llutz> demonspork: or use a /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[14:47] <coz_> RobinJ,   are you saying that  when you move your window towards the other monitor it does something weird?
[14:47] <RobinJ> no, it doesnt :p the weird thing happens when i lift my mouse button :p
[14:47] <ablmf333> dr_willis: http://i.imgur.com/1Disp.png
[14:47] <RobinJ> then it just snaps back to its origninal position
[14:47] <RobinJ> unless i let the wobly windows effect complete first
[14:47] <coz_> RobinJ,   open ccsm   disable   "Grid" plugin,, see if that fixes it
[14:48] <RobinJ> thats the only reason why i still use compiz -.-
[14:48] <Kyokan> Sidewinder:  I pasted the results of fsck in pastebin (I think)!
[14:48] <hwilde> RobinJ, so turn off wobbly windows .
[14:48] <coz_> RobinJ,   ok  open ccsm  go to Preferences  and hit the reset to defaults button,,
[14:48] <RobinJ> turning of grid does not help, turning of wobbly windows does :p
[14:48] <dr_willis> ablmf333,  looks like its a badly designed gui. try the alt-click and drag trick to move the window upward
[14:48] <coz_> RobinJ,   restart compiz from terminal with    compiz --replace  & diswon
[14:49] <coz_> RobinJ,   rather   compiz --replace & disown
[14:49] <o2oo> Hello------------------
[14:49] <coz_> hey
[14:49] <RobinJ> sigh
[14:49] <Mostoles> you have seen this timelapse of how you build the supercomputer Magerit Spain the most powerful?
[14:49] <coz_> oy
[14:49] <o2oo> Are you using ubuntu chatting now?
[14:50] <coz_> o2oo,  yes I am
[14:50] <iridium>  Mostoles, what?
[14:50] <o2oo> I am using iPad 2
[14:50] <Mostoles> can I put a http direction?
[14:50] <coz_> o2oo,  excellent,,  do you have an issue  with ubuntu?
[14:50] <dr_willis> ubuntu on an ipad2 ?
[14:50]  * dr_willis missreads
[14:50] <o2oo> coz_: Nope
[14:50] <iridium> !es | Mostoles
[14:51] <o2oo> dr_willis: Haha, could I ?
[14:51] <coz_> o2oo,  ok  so you just wanted to let us kn ow you are on an ipad2 ..yes?
[14:51] <bazhang> o2oo, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[14:51] <Mostoles> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd6IipXAWSU
[14:51] <bazhang> Mostoles, dont paste that here
[14:51] <Mostoles> oks
[14:51] <th30n3> OK folks, I gotta say, that Ubuntu 11.04 sucks ass. I love Ubuntu, but was very disappointed in 11.04
[14:52] <iridium> nobody is interested on spanish stuff, maybe in the -es channel you will have better luck
[14:52] <coz_> th30n3,  did you switch to classic  session?
[14:52] <o2oo> I wonder if when ubuntu could be excellent as iOS
[14:52] <jrib> th30n3: ok, keep in mind this channel is for *support*
[14:52] <alienmindtrick> Pici: no change. i still get 3 login prompts.
[14:52] <bazhang> o2oo, lets keep chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:52] <Kyokan> Is anyone able to assist me to fix my disk/file system please?
[14:52] <o2oo> coz_:  not that
[14:52] <nikitis> hello
[14:53] <th30n3> jrib: yes I know, and sorry, but I had to get that off my chest :)
[14:53] <o2oo> bazhang: Why could not here
[14:53] <bazhang> o2oo, its not the chat channel. its for ubuntu support only
[14:53] <scriptwarlock> o2oo, lets chat to offtopic about dataton watchout epic fail
[14:53] <inashdeen> hi, need a guide, i have 5 swap in my comp, thanks to repeated reinstallation of ubuntu, i want to delete the other 4, but how do i detect which swap is connected to my current OS? thanks in advance
[14:53] <nikitis> How can I load a python script during gnome login screen?
[14:53] <coz_> th30n3,  you might like the classic mode   ,, log off and change session to classic
[14:53] <o2oo> bazhang: Ok
[14:54] <|flyte|> Hi everyone. I have a box that I want to set up a number of ubuntu VM's on. What hypervisor / OS do I install to host these VMs?
[14:55] <aeon-ltd> |flyte|: why not ubuntu? anything secure and stable i'd say will do unless you have requirements like using minimal resources and drive space
[14:55] <inashdeen> nikitis : use startup applications :)
[14:56] <|flyte|> aeon-ltd, Oh, I thought the host OS would be VMWare Server (I thought that was the OS )
[14:56] <nikitis> inashdeen: does that work during login screen?  or after you login?
[14:56] <coz_> |flyte|,  no just install ubuntu   then use  vm software there
[14:57] <j-r> hi I want to find a service which send me the ip adress of my router by mail. do you know such a service ?
[14:57] <inashdeen> that work on login, not really sure wether before or after, but i think its mainly depends on how you arrange it
[14:57] <|flyte|> coz_ gotchya
[14:57] <inashdeen> nikitis : i suppose it is before. coz, i do build some on buc, it works okay
[14:57] <go7enks> sorry guys, superstupid question
[14:58] <nikitis> inashdeen: i need it to load and run before login
[14:58] <inashdeen> nikitis : ok not sure then, sorry
[14:58] <inashdeen> hi, anyone knows how to detect which swap is attached to your Os?
[14:58] <dr_willis> nikitis,  theres /etc/rc.local  If its not a X gui app
[14:58] <ohir> |flyte|: for gui you may use virtualbox-ose package, for many server instances I'd advise xen
[14:59] <nikitis> dr_willis: it's a python touchscreen driver
[14:59] <|flyte|> hrm.. ubuntu has its own hypervisor... use that instread iof VMWAre Server?
[14:59] <go7enks> if I want to reinstall ubuntu and I have created a home partition (apart from a / a swap) what do I have to do?
[14:59] <tesh> hi, im a bit confused about the partitions on a disk on which ive installed ubuntu
[14:59] <nikitis> dr_willis: i need it so i can use touch screen and type with on screen keyboard
[14:59] <iridium> swapon -s , inashdeen
[14:59] <ohir> |flyte|: both are avaliable with ubuntu, though xen needs more proficency from admin (you). vbox is just apt-get install away
[15:00] <nikitis> dr_willis: i'll try rc.lcal
[15:01] <|flyte|> I think I'll go with ubuntu server
[15:01] <nikitis> dr_willis: it may x gui app or at least uses x. does't draw a window though
[15:01] <ohir> |flyte|: so the shortest path is to go with virtualbox
[15:02] <j-r> hi I want to find a service which send me the ip adress of my router by mail. do you know such a service ?
[15:02] <inashdeen> iridium : thanks
[15:02] <ohir> |flyte|: mind that on any virtualizer ypo should have plenty of ram (say 0.5GiB per instance + 1GB for host system)
[15:03] <donkeyinspace> hello, i ve installed ubuntu in a usb pen drive but when trying to boot from it i get stuck on the motherboard logo.does anyone had the same problem and solved it?
[15:03] <yixuan> does there has ubuntu user guide for 11.04
[15:03] <dr_willis> nikitis,  i think you need to clarify exactly what the app is doing. and when you want it to run
[15:03] <dr_willis> nikitis,  rc.local will not work for X gui apps
[15:04] <ohir> donkeyinspace: check your bios settings first if usb boot is supported and allowed
[15:04] <BluesKaj> j-r, why not just type route in the terminal, or are you trying to determine your IP remotely ?
[15:04] <coz_> yixuan,     http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/our-complete-guide-to-unity-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> yixuan, Once it's installed, have a look at this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[15:04] <EgyParadox> motherboard logo??
[15:05] <RA_drc> yixuan: yes is there has find with the look google
[15:05] <RA_drc> yixuan: does there has found???
[15:05] <ohir> !cn | yixuan
[15:05] <dr_willis> nikitis,  you proberly want to edit the X init scripts for onscreen keyboard stuff. or have gdm run the app
[15:05] <Sidewinder1> tesh, I'll try; what's confusing you?
[15:05] <ohir> yixuan: could local community be of help too
[15:06] <donkeyinspace> ohir , the usb pen drive appear on the bios and im able to boot it as an ubuntu usb live if formatted as fat16 <not sure if it can as fat32>
[15:06] <j-r> hi I want to find a service which send me the ip adress of my router by mail. do you know such a service ?
[15:06] <j-r> excuse
[15:06] <jrib> j-r: why don't you use something like dyndns instead?
[15:06] <Pici> j-r: Thats not really on-topic for this channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps
[15:06] <yixuan> yes, thanks. I just found my ubuntu 11.04 is not very stable, so I need some documentation to get some help
[15:07] <|flyte|> ohir, understood. I have 8GBs of RAM
[15:07] <tesh> i have a machine with two hard drives in it, each has a separate installation of ubuntu on it...how can i mount the data partition from the other one when i start up one of the ubuntu systems...can't seem to get mount to work and i've just found out about this LVM partition
[15:07] <j-r> jrib: i 'll look at it
[15:07] <dr_willis> !lvm
[15:07] <j-r> jrib: is it this website you are talking about ? : http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/
[15:08] <|flyte|> ohir, well it sounds like ubunto server will be my host OS, and then vbox or xen as the hypervisor.
[15:08] <Maimster> Sup peoples.
[15:08] <jrib> j-r: http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ That way you associate a hostname like jrib.dyndns.com to your router
[15:09] <dr_willis> j-r,  many routers have dyndns clients built into them. :)  makes it even easier
[15:09] <delinquentme> OoOOoo question ! who here runs Ubuntu on a mac book pro? can you talk to me about your experience with it .. good bad ?indifferent? does gesturing work?  how about the hotkeys... do they start off wonky?
[15:09] <j-r> jrib: ok thanks
[15:09] <Abc> hi....Plz tell me which is the best video editing software ?? it should also support video effects and chroma keying.
[15:10] <delinquentme> specifically ubuntu 10.04
[15:10] <j-r> dr_willis: ok I'll chech with mine
[15:10] <windparadise> hello, in SSH, i have typed ssh, to open a remote site
[15:10] <windparadise> How do I transfer file from a local server to the remote opened server using the FTP command ?
[15:11] <ohir> donkeyinspace: if you have 'installed' ubuntu on pendrive (not got there live image) your box need to support usb-hdd boot and support it properly. So far I have seen a few that can do that.
[15:11] <dr_willis> windparadise,  you use the scp command.
[15:11] <blip99> hi, I have a printer on my network connected to a Linux server and shared via SAMBA. I can use this shared printer from my Windows system, but not from my Kubuntu machine. I see the 'NAS' entry under New Printer, and when I click on it, it hangs forever and doesn't expand to show me the printer.. http://postimage.org/image/2he18z58k/
[15:11] <blip99> any ideas what the problem could be ?
[15:11] <windparadise> no, I used putty
[15:11] <windparadise> and the interface comes like ftp->
[15:11] <dr_willis> windparadise,   you used putty on ubuntu? why not just use the scp command and transfre the files?
[15:12] <dr_willis> putty is a ssh client. you said you typed ssh, not putty. :) so  i think we are all confused.
[15:12] <swim_> hey, does anybody know what the terminal command for the archive manager is??
[15:12] <dr_willis> swim_,  file-roller  perhaps.
[15:12] <swim_> cool thanks
[15:12] <ohir> donkeyinspace: so if your live pen works well and after installing to usb disk it does not boot probably your bios can not boot it
[15:13] <windparadise> ok,
[15:13] <econdudeawesome> Hey all. I get a weird sound error on my ubuntu server (running updated 10.04). FATAL_ERROR: no valid sound driver. How do I fix this?
[15:13] <swim_> dr_willis worked like a charm, can now open file manager as root.. perfect!!  thanks
[15:13] <windparadise> I used putty on windows to connect to a linux server
[15:13] <io> !sound | econdudeawesome
[15:14] <dr_willis> swim_,  you may want to learn to handle archives without running file-roller as root. :)
[15:14] <io> but why you need sound on a server is another question
[15:14] <econdudeawesome> io: thanks for the general idea, but it's all CLI
[15:14] <swim_> dr_willis what's an advantage to that??
[15:14] <ohir> donkeyinspace: you may try to do separate /boot partition of vfat type. It should be physical #1, some 256MB and try install. Mind that I have not tested said scenario, just I think that it in theory should work
[15:14] <dr_willis> swim_,  you wont accidently trash your system by a root-running app you frogot was running as root....
[15:14] <io> econdudeawesome: what's stopping you from sorting it out via CLI?
[15:15] <ohir> donkeyinspace: at least woerked in older grub or grub4dos
[15:15] <econdudeawesome> io: I have no Volume applet
[15:15] <io> econdudeawesome: see the links, then
[15:15] <donkeyinspace> ohir , are you telling me to install it on a fat partition?
[15:16] <nikitis> dr_willis: that did not work for me
[15:16] <econdudeawesome> io: apparently I have the wrong or no modules installed. How do I install sound modules?
[15:16] <admgy22> hi - what is the way I would get the total directory size under Linux of something?  (Before rsync'ing it, since in fact I am over a mobile connection and don't want to rack up charges)
[15:16] <swim_> dr_willis okay, i see what your saying..  yeah, i usually kill apps running as root as soon as i'm done with them..  i just didn't want to change the permissions of the directory that i needed to extract to.. does that sound right??  just checkin'
[15:17] <dr_willis> nikitis,  be a bit more verbiose. :) i dont even rember what the problem is/was
[15:17] <dr_willis> swim_,  there is a compuiz setting that sticks <ROOT> into the title of any app that is running as root.
[15:18] <dr_willis> swim_,  cd into the dir.. 'sudo unp /the/path/to/the/archive   '    normally works for me :)
[15:18] <nikitis> dr_willis: I'm trying to run a python script at the ubuntu logon screen.  It needs to be running before I select the user
[15:18] <swim_> dr_willis cool, i'll check that out..  thanks buddy..  compiz is awesome, isn't it??
[15:18] <dr_willis> nikitis,  tjheres ways of doing it. ive never needed to do so. I think one way would be to set up the gdm user to auto run it.   the askubuntu.com site may have some other ways.
[15:18] <nikitis> dr_willis: I have it in .profile, and the script works after login, but this is not good enough
[15:19] <io> econdudeawesome: did you check if the system is recognizing your sound card using '$ sudo aplay -l'?
[15:19] <dr_willis> nikitis,  gdm runs as its own user. befor anyone logsin.. .profile would be for bash scripts - not X stuff.
[15:19] <econdudeawesome> io: yes. No sound card recognized. But it shows up in lspci -v |less
[15:20] <windparadise> but let me ask, is ftp not faster than scp ?
[15:20] <windparadise> i am transfering files between 2 linux servers
[15:20] <dr_willis> nikitis,  theres also the /etc/gdm/ files
[15:20] <dr_willis> windparadise,  ftp may be a little faster.. but i doubt if it will be that noticeabnle.
[15:20] <dr_willis> windparadise,  scp also works basically like the cp command. so ionce youi learn how to use it.. you save time bu not needing to fire up a ftp client
[15:20] <windparadise> ok,
[15:21] <scriptwarlock> does anyone knows why i have this kind of issue?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4yPucVFGaY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
[15:21] <io> econdudeawesome: ok then continue reading the SoundTroubleshooting page which gives suggestions
[15:21] <windparadise> ok, I am using ftp command inside ssh
[15:21] <dr_willis> You dont enve need to ssh to the other box to use scp.. you can do it from machine 1, and put files on machine 2.. or visa versa
[15:21] <io> windparadise: you're using Terminal?
[15:21] <dw-> any fix for npviewer.bin crashing on 64 bit
[15:21] <dw-> with youtube
[15:22] <windparadise> yes, I am using a termnal
[15:22] <windparadise> I have on front of me the put command
[15:22] <io> windparadise: why can't you use scp instead of ftp inside ssh?
[15:22] <io> !scp | windparadise
[15:22] <dr_willis> windparadise,  its really is a good idea to learn scp.. and forget ftp even exists
[15:22] <dr_willis> windparadise,  or use a gui ftp client
[15:22] <windparadise> but wondering how do I use it to copy files from the local server to the host
[15:22] <windparadise> ok,
[15:22] <windparadise> let me use it then
[15:23] <scriptwarlock> can anyone give some time to help me sort why i have this issue? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4yPucVFGaY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
[15:23] <Trashi> scriptwarlock: i suggest you describe your problem ... nobody (at least myself) will watch a videos to find out your problem -.-
[15:24] <dw-> all of adobe's flashplayers dont work
[15:24] <windparadise> hello, u there, my connection was reset
[15:24] <dr_willis> dw-,  youtuve can use html5 for most videos with the right browser :) but thats not exactly fixing flash...
[15:24] <scriptwarlock> Trashi, ok since your the first one to reply heres my concern. an app that is not completly exits can goof conky when clicked on the desktop
[15:25] <nansun> ;;gpg eauth nansun
[15:26] <scriptwarlock> Trashi, it doesn't kill the conky but it is under the desktop when clicked
[15:26] <dr_willis> so it moves above conky then?
[15:26] <scriptwarlock> Trashi, i'm not sure if its just me or someone also has experience this in ubuntu desktop
[15:27] <bobbyd> hey, what's the program called that is like screen but has a more developed UI / hotkeys ?
[15:27] <scriptwarlock> dr_willis, yes i recorded a video for that to demo the result
[15:27] <dr_willis> scriptwarlock,  various apps trying to force their own 'layer'  can alwasy be an issue. I Think some of the compiz plugins can help keep specific apps on specific layerrs
[15:28] <scriptwarlock> dr_willis, can you spare some time to see the video?
[15:28] <dr_willis> also i always started conky with a delay in the past. so  the gnome desktop had time ti get started.
[15:28] <Trashi> scriptwarlock: do you use gnome?
[15:28] <scriptwarlock> dr_willis, yes and unity
[15:29] <dr_willis> I dont even use conky any more. i tend to just fullscreen all my apps. so i never see conky :)
[15:30] <milkua> bobbyd: tmux?
[15:30] <scriptwarlock> dr_willis, is it fine for you to check the video? its hard for me to described it in english since im not realy fluent in talking to english
[15:30] <dr_willis> !info tmux
[15:30] <Lucak> there is a way for update ubuntu 9.04 to 10?
[15:30] <Lucak> there is a way for update ubuntu 9.04 to 10?
[15:31] <edbian> Lucak: You have to go to 9.10 then to 10.04 (you have to go in order)
[15:31] <Lucak> ah ok, but how
[15:31] <EgyParadox> !upgrade
[15:32] <edbian> Lucak: system -> admin -> software sources and change the drop down from LTS to normal releases.  Then launch update manager
[15:32] <gringoire> Hey people
[15:32] <Lucak> edbian: it's on vps, acces by ssh
[15:32] <scriptwarlock> dr_willis, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4yPucVFGaY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
[15:32] <Trashi> scriptwarlock: srry .. i just used conky with gnome and had the problem of hidden icons on my desktop .. i fixxed that with help of the "own_window yes" option .. but i think that wont help you :/ srry
[15:33] <dr_willis> scriptwarlock,  conky wants to be below everything.. but just above the root window.. if another app tries to be in the same place. the 2 can fight. you can  proberly set up compiz to force the layers to stay in the proper order.
[15:33] <edbian> Lucak: ahh, the sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:33] <|flyte|> ohmygod - IT prevents the ability to download dvd/cd images. I can't download my ubuntu server!
[15:33] <edbian> Lucak: remove the LTS line (if it's there) at the bottom)
[15:33] <edbian> Lucak: Then sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:33] <Lucak> sudo: nano: command not found
[15:34] <dr_willis> scriptwarlock,  looks like you need to twiddle with the conky settings
[15:34] <Lucak>  sudo: do-release-upgrade: command not found
[15:35] <|flyte|> is there an ftp I can connect to to download ubuntu/
[15:35] <scriptwarlock> dr_willis, have you seen the video? so its not ubuntu or compiz issue and its conky?
[15:35] <dr_willis> scriptwarlock,  conky has settings you want to check out - you can proberly use compiz to set the layers.   check the conky faq also.
[15:36] <Matisse> hi
[15:36] <kodapa> hi
[15:36] <edbian> Lucak: hang on.  (did you etc /etc/apt/sources.list) ?
[15:37] <Lucak> yes
[15:37] <edbian> Lucak: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core   (this will give you the do-release-upgrade command)
[15:37] <albert> is there a channel on this server for wine related problems?
[15:37] <Matisse> dolphin wants my sudo password for mounting the extra disks, while file saving dialogs (like in Firefox) mount it without a password...
[15:38] <scriptwarlock> dr_willis, so does this mean also its normal after quit/exit a firefox there is a small name residue on the top panel?
[15:39] <Lucak> edbian: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/630842/
[15:39] <dr_willis> i never noticed it with firefox scriptwarlock . I have all sorts of gfx glitches with Unity. so i would not be suprised
[15:39] <tib2011> !list
[15:39] <dr_willis> unity panel/topy menu totally messes up when i use  a browser here.. makes unity basically unuseable forme
[15:39] <|System|> albert: whats the problem?
[15:39] <scriptwarlock> dr_willis, ah ok thats all i want to know still i can live wth this though
[15:39] <edbian> Lucak: I don't see any problems with that.  Did you do do-release-upgrade yet?
[15:39] <Lucak> no edbian, which is the cmd?
[15:39] <scriptwarlock> ty guys for some insights....
[15:39] <Lucak> sudo apt-do? I don't know I am new in perl
[15:39] <donkeyinspace> ohir , guess i ve got it , thanks for the tip
[15:39] <blip99> hi, I have a printer on my network connected to a Linux server and shared via SAMBA. I can use this shared printer from my Windows system, but not from my Kubuntu machine. I see the 'NAS' entry under New Printer, and when I click on it, it hangs forever and doesn't expand to show me the printer.. http://postimage.org/image/2he18z58k/
[15:39] <blip99> any ideas what the problem could be ?
[15:40] <edbian> Lucak: We are working in bash, not perl.  Read this: http://www.ubuntusolutions.org/2009/04/upgrading-ubuntu-from-the-command-line.html
[15:40] <Kruptein> hey I really love the vicotry theme  I only don't like the way it sets the unity topbar,  can I change this somehow without changing to another theme?
[15:40] <dr_willis> blip99,  use the cups web interface to add the printer perhaps. You may need to use its ip and not its name also.
[15:41] <dr_willis> blip99,  many network printers do printing services in ways other then samba also. My $99 laser can be accessed by ways other then samba.
[15:41] <Lucak> edbian: An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool.
[15:42] <blip99> dr_willis: I'm not sure if it's using CUPS.  The printer is shared through a Linux-based NAS device, they have their own web interface.  It's from QNAP
[15:42] <ohir> donkeyinspace: your welcome.
[15:42] <ohir> donkeyinspace: so now you may write a short how to "installing ubuntu (version) on usb-pen" and put it on ubuntu forums.
[15:43] <edbian> Lucak: that's right.  jaunty is 9.04, karmic is 9.10, and lucid is 10.04   you have to upgrade to 9.10 first.
[15:43] <dr_willis> blip99,  linux uses cups  for everything ive ever seen.  if the server is using cups. and the local box is using cups, the web interface should be able to  see each other.
[15:43] <Lucak> edbian, how?
[15:43] <edbian> Lucak: What did you run that caused that error?
[15:43] <teal> My problem is after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10  extended desk top malfunctions, both monitors are extended, appearing a mirrored, as the extended portion is beyond the viewing range.   The method used to 'create extended  desk top was, system/preferences/monitors/unclick same image in all monitors/both/monitors are on and the resolutions is the same.  Compz installation process offers a check of the video card, mine passed it is a      ATI 9
[15:43] <teal> 200 SE (chipset RV280, AGP,  thanks in advance...
[15:43] <Lucak> sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:43] <blip99> dr_willis: I see.  Is there a port I need to point to in the web browser ?    Putting the ip just takes me to the main config page of the NAS device
[15:43] <donkeyinspace> ohir , i havent done it yet but if you give an extra help i may do it
[15:44] <blip99> ip:cups_port ?
[15:44] <dr_willis> blip99,  cups web interface -> http://localhost:631
[15:44] <wrtpeeps_> Guys, i have a stupid question. I have a process I want to start (mongodb). If i open a terminal I can start it but obviously when i close the terminal it stops. How do I get it to run constantly in the background (as as service i guess) ?
[15:44] <blip99> dr_willis: oh so the CUPS server also runs on the client, ok I will try through this now.  thanks
[15:45] <Lucak> I was following this tut edbian: http://www.ubuntusolutions.org/2009/04/upgrading-ubuntu-from-the-command-line.html
[15:45] <aeon-ltd> wrtpeeps_: add a & at the end
[15:45] <rumpe1> wrtpeeps_, there are many ways. One of the easiest: "./program & disown"
[15:45] <aeon-ltd> wrtpeeps_: e.g. 'nameofapp &' that will background it
[15:45] <dr_willis> blip99,  at least int eh past my cups machines basically saw each other and set themeslef up for the most part.
[15:45] <dr_willis> wrtpeeps_,  you may want to get in the habbit of using the 'exit' command to close a terminal and not the close button.
[15:45] <rumpe1> aeon-ltd, that won't work
[15:46] <edbian> Lucak: Say my name when talking to me or I'll miss it! :P
[15:46] <wrtpeeps_> excellent
[15:46] <wrtpeeps_> the & worked
[15:46] <wrtpeeps_> cheers!
[15:46] <beli> wrtpeeps_: read about      nohup           also
[15:46] <dr_willis> wrtpeeps_,  using che close button may still kjill the app.
[15:46]  * sipior waits for him to close the terminal...
[15:47] <lucidguy> Anyone work in an environment with 20TB+ worth of storage... and a backup procedure for it.
[15:47] <wrtpeeps_> 15:46 < dr_willis> wrtpeeps_,  using che close button may still kjill the app.
[15:47] <wrtpeeps_> when i used the & the terminal closed
[15:47] <wrtpeeps_> thing is still running though
[15:47] <wrtpeeps_> so _appears_ to have worked
[15:47] <dr_willis> wrtpeeps_,  i think we missed somting.. :)   & diosent close the terminal. it just backgrounds the app...
[15:47] <Lucak> edbian:  I was following this tut edbian: http://www.ubuntusolutions.org/2009/04/upgrading-ubuntu-from-the-command-line.html
[15:47] <beli> wrtpeeps_: there is still a difference.......to be safe use the nohup command
[15:48] <dr_willis> wrtpeeps_,  it may also depend on the app.
[15:48] <edbian> Lucak: Ahh, I see the problem.  jaunty is no longer supported (its support ended on October 2010)  Additionally 9.10 was supported until april 2011 (which we are past)
[15:48] <dr_willis> wrtpeeps_,  check out 'bash job controll '   some time.
[15:48] <geirha> beli: Well, disown should suffice.
[15:48] <beli> geirha: right, same
[15:48] <edbian> Lucak: So you have to grab the CD for 10.04 (or 11.04) and install a new
[15:48] <edbian> Lucak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_9.04_.28Jaunty_Jackalope.29
[15:49] <coz_> Lucak,  grab the alternate cd if you want to update from a cd
[15:49] <blip99> dr_willis: It got added nicely, instead of the browse I had to enter the URI manually http://nas_ip:631/printers/nasPrinter1.   thanks for the help :)
[15:49] <beli> geirha: only that disown is shell specific...
[15:49] <wrtpeeps_> thanks dr_willis and beli
[15:50] <geirha> beli: Sure, but bash is the default login shell in Ubuntu.
[15:50] <dr_willis> blip99,  for a pc - often cups only works if its on the local ip. :) you can set up where you can remote-web admin cups on all the pcs
[15:51] <dr_willis> cups is one of those complex things.. that linux handles so well. :) and so overlooked.. untill somthing breaks..
[15:51] <|flyte|> where can I download a .zip of the iso for ubuntu-11.04-server?
[15:52] <dr_willis> |flyte|,  why do you need it ziped?
[15:52] <|flyte|> dr_willis, IT is blocking downloads of .iso's
[15:52] <dr_willis> its not going to compress much  - if any
[15:52] <|flyte|> dr_willis, I'm hoping a .zip may allow me to download.
[15:52] <donkeyinspace> ohir , can i use gparted to create that 256mb boot partition?
[15:52] <dr_willis> theres no official places that ive seen |flyte|
[15:52] <beli> geirha: correct, but.....nohup is in coreutils and on all systems i know in the default installation even if bash isnt used as default shell
[15:52] <|flyte|> dr_willis, or do you know where I can download the iso via ftp? all of the mirrors don't host the iso, but rather a torrent to the iso
[15:53] <jenk> Which do I install ? Deluge or qBittorrent ?
[15:53] <Sidewinder1> |flyte|, I don't thinh there is a "zip" format as the iso is already compressed.
[15:53] <dr_willis> there should be some ftp suites that have it |flyte|  but id have to just go check the mirror listings
[15:53] <ubuntunoob> i need some help
[15:53] <coz_> jenk,   isnt transmission already installed?
[15:53] <Sidewinder1> Think, even.
[15:53] <dr_willis> jenk,  why do you need either one?
[15:53] <Sidewinder1> !ask ubuntunoob
[15:53] <jenk> coz_, Ya, it is... but I'm looking for another option.
[15:53] <dr_willis> !torrents
[15:53] <mascarijunior> alguem da canonical
[15:54] <dr_willis> jenk,  install both - or a dozen of them...
[15:54] <ubuntunoob> my eMac's cd drive wont stay open and it won't mount cd's either
[15:54] <coz_> jenk,   well  I have tried many and I like transmission,, with a few settings changes in preferences it is quick and easy
[15:54] <dr_willis> ktorrent , :)  utorrent ports. dozens of torrent clients
[15:54] <|flyte|> I can't use totrrents
[15:54] <dr_willis> transmission has gotten quiet good.
[15:54] <Lucak> edbian so what should I do
[15:54] <zaksoldier> !u
[15:54] <jpds> mascarijunior: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[15:54] <|flyte|> which ftp has the iso itself?
[15:55] <Sidewinder1> jenk, Also have a look at azureus aka Vuze.
[15:55] <jenk> dr_willis, I wanted to give libtorrent-rasterbar a try and both use it. So, which one ?
[15:55] <edbian> Lucak: I told you.  Grab the CD from the site for 10.04 (last LTS) or 11.04 and reinstall.  I think somebody said you can upgrade from an alternative CD
[15:55] <dr_willis> jenk,  no idea.
[15:55] <jenk> Sidewinder1, Umm, no, I find that too heavy...
[15:55] <dr_willis> jenk,  instaklk both..
[15:55] <coz_> jenk,   eenie,, meenie,, minee,,moe
[15:55] <Lucak> but I have not a cd
[15:55] <Lucak> I can acces just with ssh
[15:55] <jenk> dr_willis, Thanks though !
[15:55] <ubuntunoob> !ask
[15:55] <dr_willis> Youi could allready have them both installed in the time it took tio ask. :)
[15:55] <webpower> hi all
[15:55] <Sidewinder1> jenk, Absolutely, it is; but has many, many configuration options.
[15:56] <|flyte|> !ftp
[15:56] <webpower> how to install ubuntu from a pen drive?
[15:56] <jenk> coz_, :)
[15:56] <dr_willis> webpower,  you got the iso in the pendrive yet?
[15:56] <coz_> jenk,  you understand then :)  cool,,  install them all,, test them,, remove the ones you dont like
[15:56] <jenk> Sidewinder1, I like the idea of configurability but not at the expense of system resources.
[15:57] <webpower> dr_willis, i want to create a bootable install usb pen drive
[15:57] <Sidewinder1> Leave it to coz_ to come up with the "best" answer... :-)
[15:57] <webpower> i must install ubuntu on a netbook
[15:57] <brainard52> Hey, I need some help. I think it would be a little messy to give all the info in the main chat, so is anybody familiar with QT creator?
[15:57] <yoshx> hello i want to use a bash mail with authentification. Does anyone know how to do that ?
[15:57] <dr_willis> webpower,   use  some of the tools from the pendrivelinux web site. to get the iso onto a pendrive
[15:57] <jenk> coz_, I use Transmission currently, but it doesn't hurt to experiment. Thought I'd get a few ideas from people in the know...
[15:57] <coz_> jenk,  when testing these ,, make sure you pay attention to cpu useage,, memory  etc,, choose the most efficient one
[15:58] <Sidewinder1> jenk, Simply, that's the one I use; on a machine that's over 8 years old...
[15:58] <ubuntunoob> my eMac's cd drive wont stay closed and it won't mount cd's is there a fix
[15:58] <Sidewinder1> !pastebin > brainard52
[15:58] <WXZ> whenever I open up a .sln file, the default application is monodevelop
[15:58] <WXZ> but monodevelop doesn't open it, just the default screen comes up
[15:59] <brainard52> thanks.
[15:59] <Sidewinder1> welks.
[15:59] <nophone> hello
[15:59] <nophone> thanks for the help earlier
[15:59] <jenk> coz_, Yes, I'll be doing that. Is there any app that clocks system resources for a particular program ? Else, I do it manually.
[15:59] <nophone> aparently the nvidia driver needed to be set back to the non official version of the driver
[15:59] <nophone> screen looks great now
[16:00] <jenk> Sidewinder1, That's interesting, I'll give it a go then...
[16:00] <nophone> question: how do i turn off the key chain?
[16:00] <coz_> jenk,  last time I tried  Vuze it  s hot up cpu  not sure if that is fixed
[16:00] <donkeyinspace> ohir , can i use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateBootPartitionAfterInstall as a guide to do it?
[16:00] <ubuntunoob> wow nearly 1600 people in this channel and nobody answers me *rolls eyes*
[16:00] <kle77> Hey guys, is it possible to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.10, or should I just do a fresh install?
[16:00] <EgyParadox> kle77 you should upgrade to 10.04 first
[16:00] <nophone> kle77, i'm not sure, but i was talking about doing the same thing earlier and was warned that it might not work
[16:00] <Lucak> edbian: I can acces just with ssh
[16:00] <Pici> !patience | ubuntunoob
[16:01] <edbian> Lucak: I don't know of a way then :(
[16:01] <Sidewinder1> jenk, I'd give you the specs on my machine but it would be not only OT, but also down-right embarrassing. :-)
[16:01] <kle77> yeah, i'd be skeptical it would work. I may just do a fresh install
[16:01] <jenk> coz_, Yes, I've used it before but Sidewinder1 gives a very favourable opinion, so I'll check it again...
[16:01] <mark_scz> is there anyway to have infinite history size?
[16:01] <EgyParadox> !upgrade > kle77
[16:01] <kle77> two consecutive upgrades doesn't sound fun
[16:01] <ubuntunoob> ubottu i did several times
[16:01] <mark_scz> i don't want to ever truncate my .bash_history
[16:01] <coz_> jenk,  excellent,, that's the spirit,,
[16:01] <brainard52> sidewinder, pm
[16:01] <WXZ> whenever I open up an .sln with monodevelop doesn't open it
[16:01] <WXZ> it just opens the default screen
[16:02] <nophone> does anybody know how to turn off the keychain thing? every time i start up my computer i have to type in a password so that my wireless connects. frankly on this computer i'm trying to minimise security so that it can be used by anyone who comes over
[16:02] <nophone> i'm looking through the passwords and encryption keys control pannel but ...?
[16:03] <sarit> nophone: you can set the keychain password the same as your account password
[16:03] <nophone> i must be missing something
[16:03] <jenk> nophone, I think you can set it to use your login password to unlock....
[16:03] <ohir> donkeyinspace: you may try
[16:03] <pksadiq> !keyring
[16:03] <kle77> EgyParadox: yes, I was reading that before I came here. It only mentions single-step upgrades (e.g. 9.10->10.04), at least in my case
[16:03] <jenk> nophone, It'll unlock your keychain with your login password.
[16:03] <nophone> i have it set to the login password
[16:03] <brainard52> http://paste.ubuntu.com/630849/
[16:03] <ohir> donkeyinspace: sounds reasonable though I think that relocating your install on pen drive may take more time than fresh reinstall
[16:04] <nophone> i just wanna turn keyring off
[16:04] <ohir> donkeyinspace: I'd suggest you to try first with i.e. smaller pen and basic server instalation if your bios will start such hdd-disk on pen
[16:04] <Kingsy> is there a way to change a users username? I don't want to remove it add re add cos it removes its home directory with the user..
[16:05] <brainard52> oh wait, hold on.
[16:05] <jenk> nophone, Don't do that. It's required by some applications for eg, TweetDeck
[16:05] <donkeyinspace> ohir , what do you mean by relocating my install?
[16:05] <ohir> donkeyinspace: while install you need to manually partition. your first physical partition on said pen should be mounted at /boot
[16:06] <pksadiq> Kingsy: System>admini..>users and groups
[16:06] <nophone> is there some way to set it up so that i can choose to have my wireless connect automatically without being grouped in wiht my keychain?
[16:06] <ohir> donkeyinspace: if I am right your bios expects bootable vfat partition at the very beginning of pen
[16:07] <nophone> brb
[16:07] <nophone> logging out and back in
[16:07] <donkeyinspace> ohir , is it possible to choose the mount point with gparted?
[16:07] <ohir> donkeyinspace: if you already installed defaults you have there either swap or /
[16:09] <ohir> donkeyinspace: I do not know, I used it long time ago. I do use cli tools (fdisk i.e.)
[16:09] <donkeyinspace> ohir , not sure if im going to be able to do such thing but im appreciated for your time
[16:09] <kahen> anyone still on Lucid that's using the Firefox stable PPA and just got an update-manager prompt to "upgrade" to firefox 3.5?
[16:09] <ohir> donkeyinspace: though you certainly can set mountpoints in install's gui partmanager
[16:09] <Kyokan> Could somebody please help me fix my disk?  I think my file system is corrupted or I may have a superblock
[16:11] <kahen> i'm of course talking about this one: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[16:11] <ohir> donkeyinspace: for install you should have /boot 256MB vfat and rest is / that will default to ext3 on 10.4
[16:11] <nophone> ah okay i figured it out
[16:11] <nophone> there's a checkbox on the bottom of the network options that says "Unlock for everybody"
[16:12] <nophone> quick survey: what irc client are yall using?
[16:12] <donkeyinspace> ohir , and after that make some editing in the files, am i right?
[16:12] <aristidesfl> hello dear ubuntuers
[16:12] <pksadiq> nophone: most one is irssi, I think ;)
[16:13] <aristidesfl> trying to configure WPA2 wireless using the command line on 11.04
[16:13] <nophone> i'm trying out xchat atm
[16:13] <nophone> i used to use bitchx back in the day
[16:13] <aristidesfl> problem: cat: /var/run/wpa_supplicant.wlan0.pid: No such file or directory
[16:13] <Pici> nophone: irssi is similar to bitchx.
[16:14] <nophone> terminal based gotchu
[16:14] <Kyokan> Is anyone able to help me, please?
[16:14] <nophone> danke thanks pici
[16:14] <coz_> nophone,  I have been using xchat for years ,, way back on BeOs,, this is also why i use transmission,, since that started on BeOs  and was ported to linux,, not xchat though,, but still I find it easy maybe only because I have used it so long :)
[16:15] <aristidesfl> here is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastie.org/2106744
[16:16] <aristidesfl> restarting networking says this:
[16:16] <aristidesfl>  * Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces
[16:16] <aristidesfl>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                                                 cat: /var/run/wpa_supplicant.wlan0.pid: No such file or directory
[16:16] <aristidesfl> run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with return code 1
[16:16] <FloodBot1> aristidesfl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:16] <nophone> okay cool irssi :)
[16:16] <nophone> i need to learn now to write scripts again :)
[16:17] <aristidesfl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/630853/ and  http://pastie.org/2106744 please heeelp
[16:18] <donkeyinspace> ohir , is it enough creating those 2 partitions or do i have to do some file editing after?
[16:18] <Kyokan> When is the best time to find someone available to help here, does anyone know?
[16:19] <nophone> Kyokan: depends on where you are in the world i suppsoe
[16:19] <Kyokan> London
[16:19] <Kyokan> nophone:  sorry I am in London
[16:19] <m1chael> i upgraded my ubuntu, and my screen is flickering/black, i drag the mousse around and click, and things become kind of visible, it's very random and weird.. i dont know what to do to fix this.. it's a dual boot with windows xp...
[16:19] <nophone> Kyokan: i'm in korea
[16:19] <nophone> :)
[16:19] <nophone> ching chong wing wong
[16:20] <nophone> i'm not wizzard though
[16:20] <Kyokan> nophone: oh gosh OK so how many hours from now?  I can come back later when there are more people available to help
[16:21] <nophone> i think earlier today
[16:21] <nophone> like 6 hours ago i had alot of ppl tackling the questions i was asking
[16:21] <nophone> what are you trying to do anyways?
[16:21] <coz_>  guys I have to break here,,, be back later
[16:21] <Kyokan> nophone:  I think my file system is corrupt and ty for your help :)
[16:21] <nophone> Kyokan: what have you tried?
[16:22] <Kyokan> not very much as I don't know what I am doing
[16:22] <oskar-> hi, i have ubuntu natty, upgraded step by step from karmic. everything is working fine, but i am missing the ~/.gvfs mount, that once was there iirc. now it's only a plain, empty directory. does it matter, that my home is on nfs4? any hints how I can activate it again?
[16:22] <WXZ> how come monodevelop doesn't open solutions on double click?
[16:22] <nophone> do you think it's the file system or that there are bad sectors on the drive?
[16:22] <Kyokan> nophone: i ran fsck from a terminal and got stuck there
[16:22] <Kyokan> nophone: could be a bad sector or superblock
[16:23] <nophone> you could look for a program called spinrite
[16:23] <nophone> you boot up from the disk
[16:23] <sipior> Kyokan: what's the precise error that fsck reports?
[16:23] <nophone> if it's a disk sector that can be recovered it will do it
[16:23] <Kyokan> nophone:  I can only boot from live cd
[16:24] <nophone> Kyokan: you could mount it to a thumb drive and boot from there. i didn't realise you were in such dire straights
[16:24] <sipior> Kyokan: also, what led you to run fsck on the volume?
[16:25] <Kyokan> sipior:  someone on here told me to run fsck
[16:25] <sipior> Kyokan: but what was the original problem?
[16:26] <Kyokan> sipior:  I returned to a crashed computer and have been unable to restart.  I believe the file system is corrupted or else I may have a superblock
[16:26] <arooni-mobile> what is the generally accepted best solution for widgets on 11.04 (and a widget layer so i can can show/hide on command)
[16:26] <sipior> Kyokan: so, you rebooted from the live cd, ran fsck, and got what error?
[16:26] <sipior> Kyokan: and do you remember the error which is keeping the machine from booting?
[16:27] <bsxU> Hello, I'm new to Natty from 10.04 and I'm having problems installing mx5000tools to control my wireless keyboard lcd.  the configure script is giving me an error "No package 'glib-2.0' found" I know that is wrong.
[16:27] <Kyokan> sipior:  the message I get now is that the resource is busy or mounted or opened exclusively by another program
[16:28] <Kyokan> sipior:  which is different from before.
[16:28] <sipior> Kyokan: in response to what command?
[16:28] <Kyokan> sipior: sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
[16:28] <sipior> Kyokan: and is the volume indeed mounted?
[16:29] <Kyokan> sipior:  I do not believe the disk is mounted
[16:29] <sipior> Kyokan: does the output of "df" agree with your beliefs? :-)
[16:30] <Kyokan> sipior:  I found the original message:  error reading block  (attempt  to read block from filesystem resulted in short read)  Ignore error <y>?
[16:31] <Kyokan> sipior:  what does df mean?
[16:31] <sipior> Kyokan: and if you ignore the error, as it prompts you?
[16:31] <sipior> Kyokan: type "df" at a terminal.
[16:31] <Kyokan> sipior shall I type Y?
[16:31] <Kyokan> ok
[16:31] <sipior> Kyokan: look to see if /dev/sdb1 is listed.
[16:32] <Kyokan> sipior: it is not listed
[16:32] <sipior> Kyokan: that's good.
[16:32] <sipior> Kyokan: try ignoring the fsck error (it will be the first of many, i'm sure)
[16:32] <Kyokan> ok
[16:33] <Kyokan> force rewrite <y>?
[16:33] <sipior> Kyokan: you're booted from the live cd now, right?
[16:33] <flask-> is it possible to have a Project's files be located at an sftp:// path?
[16:33] <Kyokan> sipior: correct
[16:33] <bsxU> I'm new to 11.04 from 10.04 and I'm having problems installing mx5000tools to control my wireless keyboard lcd.  the configure script is giving me an error "configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.8.0 ) were not met: No package 'glib-2.0' found"  It gives me some info on pkg-config, but I'm not sure where to go with it.  Could anyone perhaps lead me towards a solution?
[16:33] <sipior> Kyokan: and you have backups of the /dev/sdb1 volume?
[16:34] <Kyokan> sipior: shall i force it to rewrite?  No back ups as far as I know\
[16:35] <sipior> Kyokan: well, up to you. probably okay, but do understand that fsck may lose some data in the process of fixing the filesystem.
[16:35] <Kyokan> sipior:  this hdd is merely a month or 2 old.  I would rather forsake my files for a working hdd
[16:35] <devilirium> Hello
[16:36] <Kyokan> sipior:  if I format the disk and reinstall from scratch, is that likely to fix the problem?
[16:36] <sipior> Kyokan: yes, but that's really the nuclear option. let fsck do what it can, and see where you end up.
[16:38] <Kyokan> sipior:  i forced rewrite and dev/sdb1:clean with x number of files
[16:38] <sipior> Kyokan: good! try mounting the volume.
[16:38] <Kyokan> should I try to boot now
[16:38] <Kyokan> OK
[16:38] <Kyokan> sipior:  can you please tell me the command to do that from a terminal?
[16:38] <sipior> Kyokan: sure. "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 <mountpoint>"
[16:39] <Kyokan> sipior:  thanks.  is mountpoint where I would add root?
[16:39] <sipior> Kyokan: try sticking it under "/mnt" for the time being.
[16:40] <sipior> Kyokan: or /media
[16:40] <rumpe1> ok
[16:41] <Kyokan> sipior:  can't find /dev/sdb1/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:41] <sipior> Kyokan: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media"
[16:41] <Kyokan> ok
[16:42] <Kyokan> sipior:  I am not sure whether it has done anything at all
[16:43] <sipior> Kyokan: is it listed when using df?
[16:43] <braadli> good evening!
[16:43] <sipior> Kyokan: or just "mount"
[16:43] <Kyokan> sipior: yes it is listed now
[16:43] <sipior> Kyokan: good, try rebooting.
[16:44] <Kyokan> sipior:  thank you so much for your help!  I am extremely grateful.  Hopefully I won't be back
[16:44] <sipior> Kyokan: no trouble. i hope so too :-)
[16:44] <Kyokan> thanks
[16:45] <roasted> If I'm using a Gnome 3 PPA, can I install Xubuntu-Desktop or will XFCE for some reason tank with me having Gnome 3 installed?
[16:46] <Sidewinder1> !gnome3 | roasted
[16:46] <roasted> Sidewinder1, that didn't answer my question.
[16:46] <s093294> Hello, i have a database question (any channels good for just that?) Someone might have a comment here aswell - I am to make a system that keeps information about ect all stadions in the world. Some information is logic that they all have, and then theres properly some stuff thats depended on country or other parameters. My question is then, would one create a new column for each time a new field is discovered, would it be better to have a field with xml
[16:46] <s093294>  data ?
[16:46] <mint_> when i mount a device i get the error .. mount: you must specify the fileszstem type!? whats this?
[16:47] <Pici> s093294: #sql perhaps
[16:47] <iceroot> mint_: normally you are mounting the wrong partiton (sdb instead of sdb1)
[16:47] <braadli> hi all - trying to mount a .mdf image using furius ISO Mount; all this creates is an empty folder (with the original image's filename as folder name, minus the extension)
[16:47] <Pici> roasted: Yes it does. the ppa is not supported, we don't know what sort of interactions it will have with your system.
[16:48] <braadli> df shows no changes after the so-called 'mount'
[16:48] <mold> hey what goin on?
[16:48] <Sidewinder1> Thanx, Pici
[16:48] <roasted> Pici, no, it did not answer my question. I understand gnome 3 is not supported, but I'm asking about the interactions with XFCE and 11.04, both officially supported.
[16:48] <roasted> Pici, if anything, perhaps I should ask in Xubuntu. Thanks anyway.
[16:49] <Sidewinder1> roasted, That may be the best place. :D
[16:49] <mold> i cant figure out how to set up my wifi connection so it works just in the terminal  i dont have to be in gnome
[16:49] <Pici> roasted: Installing xfce on a stock 11.04 install should not cause any problems. If the gnome3 ppa is installed, I have no idea if it will work or not.
[16:49] <roasted> Sidewinder1, my concern was how heavily based on gtk 2.0 xfce was.
[16:49] <braadli> ... (mount problem, continued) however, using MagicDisk in virtualbox, the image mounts absolutely fine in Win7 virtual.
[16:50] <mint_> iceroot: same error message
[16:50] <maddcrash> would anyone be available to help me with a mounting issue?
[16:50] <iceroot> mint_: sudo fdisk -l is showing you what partitons are there
[16:50] <Sidewinder1> roasted, I couldn't answer your specific question and was hopeing the links that ubottu provides might help you.
[16:50] <iceroot> mint_: also what type of filesystem is the stick using?
[16:51] <mint_> iceroot: but in gparted i see the partition and there is file syztem as unknown >*
[16:51] <iceroot> !ask | maddcrash
[16:51] <maddcrash> !ask
[16:51] <iceroot> mint_: is it formated?
[16:51] <iceroot> maddcrash: just ask your real question here
[16:51] <maddcrash> one moment let me go read the guidelines first before I piss someone off :)
[16:51] <Sidewinder1> roasted, I really was not trying to be a smart a$$; just to be helpful...
[16:51] <mint_> iceroot:    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[16:51] <mint_> /dev/sdc1               1          13      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
[16:51] <mint_> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[16:51] <mint_> /dev/sdc2              13       56845   456501248    7  HPFS/NTFS
[16:51] <mint_> /dev/sdc3           61838      121601   480051200    7  HPFS/NTFS
[16:51] <mint_> Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[16:51] <FloodBot1> mint_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:52] <Sidewinder1> !pastebin > mint_
[16:52] <iceroot> mint_: you want sdc2 i guess
[16:52] <roasted> Sidewinder1, I understand. It just seems to be the default answer in here to push people away elsewhere. It gets a little tiring, hence my reaction. :P
[16:52] <iceroot> mint_: or sdc3 but not sdc1
[16:52] <FCdll> d
[16:52] <Sidewinder1> No prob. Please keep in mind:
[16:52] <Sidewinder1> !volunteers
[16:53] <mint_> iceroot: no i want sdc5 and sdc6
[16:53] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[16:53] <mint_> iceroot: sdc1 and sdc2 are mz windows..
[16:54] <clockwize> hey, I'm playing with start-stop-daemon, i have got it running my command by creating a bash script that contains it then executing the bash script, but this isn't ideal. how should I go about executing a command that takes multiple parameters through start-stop-daemon?
[16:54] <arooni-mobile> what is the generally accepted best solution for widgets on 11.04 (and a widget layer so i can can show/hide on command)
[16:54] <maddcrash> I do not know how to "mount" some disk space on this Ubunto box I set up ( a FoG server ).  I have the disk space available on a FreeNAS box.  I can see the disk space via Network folder, but I dont know how to mount it.
[16:54] <WXZ> how come monodevelop doesn't open up .sln files on double click?
[16:54] <edbian> arooni-mobile: compiz and screenlets or compiz and desklets
[16:54] <iceroot> mint_: and what filesystem is sdc5/6?
[16:54] <arooni-mobile> edbian, whats better; screenlets or desklets
[16:55] <mint_> i think ext3 or ext4 .. but dont know :)
[16:55] <edbian> arooni-mobile: IDK.  Haven't used them in a couple years.  I don't remember which was which but one was more evolved back then
[16:56] <mint_> iceroot: i think ext3 or ext4 .. but dont know :)
[16:57] <iceroot> mint_: fdisk will tell you
[16:57] <sarthor> Hi. I can use my wlan only with command iwconfig wlan1 essid "SSID of ACCESS POINT", my network manager can not see my wlan, how to make network manager to see wlan and show other APs or Netwroks...
[16:57] <braadli> hi - an mdf image that mounts fine under virtualbox Win7 guest (MagicISO) is not mounting under the Ubuntu 11.04 host; using Furius ISO Mount; all that is created is an empty folder in the home directory
[16:57] <maddcrash> how can i find the path to the network drive that is mounted?
[16:58] <iceroot> maddcrash: mount or df
[16:58] <WXZ> I can't open a file with the default application, it just opens the application but not the file
[16:59] <henington> would a network share show up there too?
[16:59] <henington> in places i can see the mount, browse to it etc... but i dont know where the actual path is to plug into a server app.
[17:00] <iceroot> henington: if it is mounted (nfs, cifs) yes
[17:00] <henington> i think its mounted?  It has the little eject icon symbol next to it ?
[17:00] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to change terminal so that paste/copy is control v and not control + shift + v
[17:01] <edbian> henington: To see what is mounted look at mount or df -h
[17:01] <edbian> arooni-mobile: Edit -> keyboard shortcuts
[17:01] <edbian> arooni-mobile: (not hard to find :P )
[17:01] <phill> help with configuring a vpn.  Works for me in Windows. Have done my best to transcribe the various parms from the Windows .ovpn file into the Network Manager program in Ubuntu but so far connection fails...
[17:02] <newbie01> I have a file Music with the permissions drwxrwxr-x 2 root music 4096 2011-06-22 16:35 /usr/local/share/Music, I try to make a file called test by  > /usr/local/share/Music/test but I get bash: /usr/local/share/Music/test: Permission denied    why?
[17:02] <edbian> newbie01: You are not the user 'music' and you are not in the group 'music' so you cannot write in there
[17:02] <henington> i see a bunch of stuff under Mount...  im not sure how to find out which is the right one
[17:02] <newbie01> edbian, music is a group
[17:03] <henington> type would be nfsd ?
[17:03] <edbian> newbie01: there is a music group and a music user on your system
[17:03] <edbian> newbie01: oops.  I read wrong
[17:03] <arooni-mobile> edbian, awesome!
[17:03] <edbian> newbie01: sorry, they are owned by root (not you) and the group music (which you aren't in) so you can't write in those files
[17:03] <edbian> arooni-mobile: sure
[17:03] <edbian> arooni-mobile: I change that right away as well
[17:04] <meelu> hello, i want to install JSON::RPC cpan perl module on ubuntu
[17:04] <meelu> how do i do this?
[17:04] <newbie01> edbian, on the gui I added myself to the group?
[17:04] <edbian> newbie01: You have to log out and log back in for it to take effect
[17:04] <edbian> newbie01: little annoying quark :/
[17:04] <newbie01> i see thanks
[17:04] <edbian> newbie01: sure. Sorry for the confusing!
[17:05] <edbian> confusion*
[17:05] <edbian> I'm a mess
[17:06] <braadli> an mdf image that mounts fine under virtualbox Win7 guest (MagicISO) is not mounting under the Ubuntu 11.04 host; using Furius ISO Mount; all that is created is an empty folder in the home directory. Anybody have an idea what's going on?
[17:07] <timmyraaar> hi guys - running 10.10 64 bit... my laptop has an i5 @ 2.3ghz and intel HD 3000 GPU... any idea why it looks like  i have no 2D acceleration ?
[17:08] <sarthor> Hi. I can use my wlan only with command iwconfig wlan1 essid "SSID of ACCESS POINT", my network manager can not see my wlan, how to make network manager to see wlan and show other APs or Netwroks...
[17:09] <arooni-mobile> how can i add a few items to the panel in 11.04 that i am missing as compared to 10.04; 1) weather applet 2) perf monitor 3) countdown timers 4) workrave applet
[17:09] <evcharger> hi there. I am attempting to run a python script at boot using an init.d script. I am running into some issues - any help?
[17:09] <edbian> sarthor: remove any references to wlan0 from /etc/network/interfaces
[17:10] <sarthor> edbian: my interfaces file have only "auto lo
[17:10] <sarthor> iface lo inet loopback
[17:10] <sarthor> "
[17:10] <RawChid> sarthor, interesting. I had the same. Are you sure the GUI is looking at wlan1  (and not wlan0)
[17:10] <edbian> sarthor: mmm, I'm not sure than
[17:11] <sarthor> RawChid: yes it is wlan1
[17:11] <RawChid> I want to connect to an AP using wpa_supplicant in CLI. I made a config file and it seems to connect (no errors and I get an IPv6 addres).
[17:12] <RawChid> But in GUI wireless stills looks disabled
[17:12] <RawChid> And I cannot connect to internet. Any ideas?
[17:13] <RawChid> By GUI I mean the gnome network applet
[17:13] <sarthor> what if i delete all the entries. from /etc/udev/rules.d/70_netwro.....net... file
[17:13] <sarthor> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[17:13] <sarthor> even i removed netwrok-manager and reinstalled. but no success.
[17:14] <RawChid> sarthor, I'm not sure if it helps. But did you try to (re)start networking and/or wireless?
[17:15] <trelayne> Hey all, Is there a portable USB version that I can install to? So that it run like it was installed on a HD?
[17:15] <arooni-mobile> when scrolling fast on chrome with my t420 (intel 3000) sometimes i see graphical renderiung errors
[17:15] <webczat> Hey, how do you install python bindings for gobject for python3?
[17:15] <sarthor> RawChid: Yes. several time.. i wil be back. that what will be the result
[17:16] <RawChid> Just another suggestion. Try the wicd and wicd-gtk
[17:16] <EgyParadox> !usb-creator
[17:16] <RawChid> Don't think that is a solution though
[17:16] <trelayne> !usb-creator
[17:17] <RawChid> sarthor, I think we have both the same problem
[17:17] <trelayne> A friend wants to be able to run ubuntu from USB
[17:17] <RawChid> I see all the AP's when doing: iwlist scan
[17:17] <EgyParadox> trelayne: You can install Ubuntu on a usb disk using startup disk creator
[17:18] <EgyParadox> sudo apt-get instal usb-creator-gtk
[17:18] <RawChid> trelayne: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+usb+disk
[17:18] <EgyParadox> install*
[17:18] <trelayne> EgyParadox,  yes I know but that only creates a generic one that doesn't save data
[17:18] <RawChid> Look on persisten USB trelayne
[17:18] <RawChid> persistent*
[17:19] <trelayne> ok thanks
[17:19] <EgyParadox> Im not sure if supports persistent mode or not I
[17:19] <RawChid> Yes, you can have an persistent install on USB
[17:20] <sarthor> RawChid: no success. while it is showing wlan0 now. but my GUI network-manger can not see my wlan still.
[17:22] <sarthor> my network manager can not see my wlan0. i am compel to connect to wireless netwrok only via terminal command. HELP
[17:22] <RawChid> sarthor, what is your problem? Is connecting via CLI not working?
[17:24] <sarthor> RawChid: i can connect in command line. just i can not see other network.
[17:24] <sarthor> and network-manager says. device is not ready.
[17:24] <sarthor> while i am using internet.
[17:24] <sarthor> with that device.
[17:24] <sarthor> Network-manager is lier
[17:25] <RawChid> You tried iwlist scan?
[17:25] <Pici> !enter | sarthor
[17:25] <RawChid> i.e. does that gives you a list of networks?
[17:26] <x29a> hi there, im using 10.04.2, and an usb single touch touchscreen, am i supposed to use the evdev or the evtouch driver? whats the diff and how to tell?
[17:26] <Poindexter_> I did an apt-get install php4      and got an error message that it is not supported. Why? Php5 is not backwards compatible. What is the story with this?
[17:27] <sarthor> it is not giving the list of network. Pici ubottu said something. but i really did not understand. if they said pressing Enter key. so i am not pressing. but for sending msg i have to press that button
[17:27] <x29a> PointyPumper: why on earth would one want to install php4?
[17:28] <Pici> sarthor: stop pressing enter between every 3 words, it makes it very hard to read the channel.
[17:28] <EgyParadox> sarthor: It means that you should type everything once
[17:28] <RawChid> sarthor, it means that you can make longer sentences. Just like I'm doing now. Not press enter after a few words...
[17:29] <x29a> Poindexter_: maybe there is a ppa with current builds for php4
[17:29] <sarthor> Pici: EgyParadox very right. now i understand better. I will be careful about this, Inshallah.
[17:29] <RawChid> sarthor, so even iwlist isn't giving you a list. Sorry, I've no idea further
[17:30] <Poindexter_> X29a what does that mean?
[17:30] <x29a> Poindexter_: search for PPA php4
[17:31] <Poindexter_> Does it mean I need to apt-get apache2 with a php4 build?
[17:31] <jyooruje> anyone here use cvlc?
[17:32] <Poindexter_> Otherwise it means apt-get uninstall or remove the old apache2 and purge the files.
[17:32] <RawChid> Poindexter_: you're talking about PHP, not apache. So apache can stay
[17:32] <windparadise> ok, what i am doing now is , cd /httpdocs
[17:32] <windparadise> how do I compress all files in the current location I am in?
[17:32] <Poindexter_> RawChid thanks for that lead. I was sweating over this.
[17:33] <windparadise> since conpressing the httpdocs folder is giving me permission denied error?
[17:33] <RawChid> php4 is not in the repositories of current Ubuntu versions (which do you have?).  So try to look for an PPA archive
[17:33] <blink> what do you all use to manage multiple hosts on a LAN/WAN? puppetmaster seems to be a little clunky, and CFEngine is just not for me.
[17:33] <Poindexter_> There are some applications I would like to use with php4 but it not supported anymore.. Can I force Ubuntu to apt-get php4 anyways?
[17:34] <Poindexter_> Oh I forgot to explain that I Upgraded the kernel of Xubuntu. That may be the reason why.
[17:34]  * RawChid got to go, bye
[17:35] <Poindexter_> I would hate to retrogress and revert back to the older version of Xubuntu just to use php4.
[17:36] <windparadise> any answer ?
[17:38] <strombo> salut tt le monde
[17:38] <Goliath> i need help
[17:38] <Goliath> i am now under kubuntu livedvd, download gentoo iso to burn. can i load k3b, eject the kubuntu dvd and insert the empty dvd to burn? or some files would be missing?
[17:39] <OerHeks> windparadise, tar -czpf /home/me/somefile.tar.gz /path/to/files/to/be/archived  >>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[17:39] <popey> Goliath: doubt you'll be able to eject the DVD
[17:39] <popey> Goliath: it will be locked
[17:39] <Stava> How can I run a commentary track MP3 alongside the video (with video sound) in ubuntus default movie player (or vlc)?
[17:39] <Goliath> popey: it isnt locked
[17:39] <popey> Goliath: so what happens when you eject it?
[17:40] <Goliath> popey: the system continues from ram
[17:40] <windparadise> what about finding the size of the current file ?
[17:40] <popey> Goliath: so why ask if you know what happens?
[17:41] <genii-around> Goliath: I also offered you an alternative in #kubuntu, please don't post the same question in multiple channels
[17:41] <clcto> windparadise: ls -l
[17:41] <windparadise> ok
[17:42] <Pici> windparadise: ls -lh will be more readable.
[17:42] <Sidewinder1> windparadise, It's probably not a good idea to change permissions on anything in your root directory (if that's where your httpdocs dir is located) regarding the compression, type in terminal man tar.
[17:42] <donkeyinspace> ohir , are you there? about the 256mb boot partition and stuff... is it enough to create those 2 partitions or do i have to make some file editing after that?
[17:43] <Goliath> !find k3b-i38n
[17:43] <clcto> Sidewinder1: tar isnt compression
[17:43] <Goliath> !find k3b-i36n
[17:43] <windparadise> ok
[17:43] <Goliath> how was that package
[17:43] <popey> Goliath: i18n probably
[17:43] <popey> Goliath: http://packages.ubuntu.com/k3b-i18n
[17:44] <Goliath> !find k3b-i18n
[17:44] <IdleOne> !msgthebot
[17:44] <Goliath> hey
[17:45] <Goliath> the livecd isnt locked on my system. i can eject it and still function on loaded apps from the ram
[17:45] <Goliath> is this normal?
[17:45] <demonspork> do the Nvidia drivers for Linux support monitor rotation yet?
[17:46] <demonspork> Goliath, yes
[17:46] <Sidewinder1> clcto, So it doesn't compress at all? I'm just asking 'cause I always assumed that it did.
[17:46] <clcto> nope, just wraps it up. then you use gz or bz2 or whatever. thats why you always see tar.gz
[17:47] <iridium> Goliath, as long you don't try to launch something new, yes
[17:47] <Sidewinder1> clcto, I never really tested it though; guess that's what happens when I "assume". :-)
[17:47] <clcto> Sidewinder1: but tar can do that for you ... one of the options
[17:47] <Pantsu> Sidewinder1: you can tell it to compress the tarball with whatever you want
[17:47] <Sidewinder1> Thanx guys/gals.
[17:48] <Pantsu> I prefer xz most of the time
[17:49] <Poindexter_> Is everything programmed with php4 totally not compatible with php5?
[17:49] <Pantsu> no
[17:49] <Pantsu> but most are
[17:49] <Pantsu> (as in won't work)
[17:50] <Poindexter_> Pantsu so I should take the risk of installing php5 and testing if there is a compatiblity with php4?
[17:50] <Pantsu> Poindexter_: upgrade/fix anything you have that only works on php4
[17:51] <tivkom> .
[17:51] <Poindexter_> Pantsu I tried to apt-get install php4 and the error is not supported.
[17:52] <Poindexter_> I upgraded my Xubuntu kernel and that may have a difference.
[17:52] <blink> does anybody here work in IT?
[17:52] <demonspork> blink, probably a lot of us, just ask your question and see if it can be answered
[17:52] <oCean> blink: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:53] <iridium> Poindexter_, try: apt-cache search php4
[17:53] <blink> I did, nobody answered
[17:53] <blink> looking for alternatives to puppet & cfengine
[17:53] <iridium> if there's something about php4 in there repositories there will appear
[17:53] <oCean> blink: have you tried asking in #ubuntu-server?
[17:54] <demonspork> blink, by manage, what are the goals you are looking to accomplish?
[17:54] <blink> just firing off commands, grabbing/centralizing output
[17:54] <Poindexter_> Iridium this is the response:   cakephp - MVC rapid application development framework for PHP
[17:54] <blink> not looking to automate a datacenter, just simplify installing updates, etc
[17:54] <JamesJRH> Hi. I'm booting off a LiveCD to try to fix my other Ubuntu laptop. For some reason the LiveCD tries to mount the bad partition which fails and creates an uninterruptible process. This blocks all other utilities from accessing the partition. How do I boot the LiveCD so that it does not touch the bad partition until I want it to?
[17:55] <demonspork> blink, I generally use public/private key pairs and set up a series of links on my desktop that launch putty or terminal sessions that connect via SSH to the other computers as needed and I can run commands on them
[17:55] <iridium> Poindexter_, that seems to be a front-end to develop, you might be out of luck with the standard repos
[17:56] <Sidewinder1> JamesJRH, Have you set your BIOS to boot to the cd/dvd drive FIRST?
[17:56] <demonspork> blink, you can also write batch scripts to do use SSH to execute commands on other computers
[17:56] <JamesJRH> Sidewinder1: Yes.
[17:56] <zambaboo> hey guys i need to build a deb package that doesnt compile anything but simply copies binaries to usr/local/bin - what guide should i read?
[17:56] <SpiLoT> I've 2 partitions, C and D. C being Windows 7... I've recently installed Ubuntu via Windows 7 on the D partition.  Now I can't view the 'root files' on D however when I switch to Windows 7 I can clearly see everything in place in D. I've tried to access the folder 'root' in Ubuntu, but it gave me 'You dont have the permissions... bla bla bla"
[17:56] <Poindexter_> Iridium thanks. I thought I was up a dead end street.
[17:56] <SpiLoT> I want to be able to view the root files on the D using Ubuntu.
[17:56] <zambaboo> SpiLoT, you need to be root
[17:56] <demonspork> blink, I have set up an environment where I used crontab to execute scripts that would go out and update and perform various tasks on several servers on a regular basis, simplified me having to set up those scripts on all of the servers, I just did it on one of them
[17:56] <windparadise> hello, pls i made zip fast.zip */*/* it only zipped files from 2 level directories
[17:56] <zambaboo> SpiLoT, and why do you want that?>
[17:57] <windparadise> how do I compress all files and contentts from the current directory?
[17:57] <hjax> any reason why i cant make flash work?
[17:57] <newbeee> Spilot I face that problem too
[17:57] <zambaboo> windparadise, tar czf filename.tar /path/to.dir
[17:57] <newbeee> I think I have a temporary fix for that
[17:57] <ZykoticK9_> SpiLoT, FYI windows can't ready EXT3/4 partitions
[17:57] <EgyParadox> !tar
[17:57] <Sidewinder1> zambaboo, He doesn't need to be root to "view" them, does he?
[17:57] <newbeee> Zykotick he cant view d in ubuntu not in windows
[17:57] <hjax> i downloaded ubuntu restricted extras, and flash wont run in chromium or firefox
[17:58] <JamesJRH> I know options can be given if I press F6. How do I boot to a low runlevel such as 1?
[17:58] <ZykoticK9_> newbeee, he's asking to view the / partition... isn't he/she?
[17:58] <SpiLoT> Zykotick9_ The partition is the same one that Ubuntu is installed on... I... argh, for example, D has a folder called 'Movies' in the root, when I switch to Ubuntu, I can't view the folder (can't litrally see it) but rather just see the usual Ubuntu files (root... home...etc)
[17:58] <windparadise> zambaboo, I am compressing contents of the httpdocs folder
[17:58] <windparadise> and I am currently in that folder
[17:59] <szal> SpiLoT, newbeee: that is because the Wubi installation is a type of virtual machine, iow, a system within the system, and by default, a system cannot view what's outside of it
[17:59] <windparadise> so how do i compress all contents inside the contents I am in?
[17:59] <hjax> chrome says flash is out of date, and adobe says that chrome should update itself, :/
[17:59] <newbeee> No he is talking about a wubi installation in which he cant view the directory in which he installed ubuntu using ubuntu
[17:59] <JamesJRH> In Grub I think I append ' 1' to the kernel line but that doesn't work on the CD.
[17:59] <demonspork> SpiLoT, you haven't mounted your full partition, your Ubuntu is a virtual hard disk, so when Ubuntu launches its / is actually just a smaller subsection of the actual partition
[17:59] <ZykoticK9_> SpiLoT, newbeee oh sorry - Wubi!  I have no comment/suggestions then.
[18:00] <SpiLoT> demonspork: So argh... well that makes sense.
[18:00] <newbeee> But SpiLoT there is a place where you mount hard drives.There you can mount the hard drive and then use.But need to do always
[18:00] <Poindexter_> Iridium I used this command:  lsb_release -a    Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Release:        10.04 Codename:       lucid a   I got this as a response
[18:00] <hjax> can anyone help me?
[18:00] <Sidewinder1> !wubi > SpiLoT
[18:00] <nimbiotics> is there a channel for urban terror??
[18:00] <demonspork> SpiLoT, you can probably see the actual hard disk in "Places" and clicking on it should mount it. Natty includes write support for NTFS out of the box last I checked
[18:01] <newbeee> SpiLoT go to disk utility is D shown there?
[18:01] <newbeee> demonpork I dont think that will be shown in that menu
[18:01] <Sidewinder1> demonspork, Thank god for you; someone who's actually familiar with wubi. :-)
[18:02] <SpiLoT> newbee: Nope o_o. Just 500GB and 21GB files (root.disk)
[18:02] <fowlduck> We have an Intel Xeon E5645 and we're not seeing the 2 threads per core in lscpu, despite the processor being capable of hyperthreading
[18:02] <Poindexter_> I guess I will have to download php4 and make ./install it.
[18:02] <SpiLoT> 21GB files is the D
[18:02] <SpiLoT> Ah fuck. How to take a screenshot?
[18:02] <fowlduck> Does anyone have any idea how to investigate this?
[18:02] <SpiLoT> nvm
[18:02] <maco> SpiLoT: watch your language, and it should be gnome-screenshot
[18:03] <Sidewinder1> !language > SpiLoT
[18:03] <newbeee> SpiLoT hmm I have the same problem but in disk utility that partition is shown unmounted all I need to do is mount and I can use that but again when I turn off the sys I have to do it again
[18:03] <demonspork> Sidewinder1, I did a wubi install of Ubuntu and promptly deleted it. Too many bugs. It has been a while since I tried though, maybe it has been ironed out a bit
[18:04] <demonspork> newbeee, you can add the entry to fstab, I am not sure if there is a simple gui method to do it~~~ I learned how to use fstab a long time ago and haven't paid any attention to the guis for disk management since then
[18:04] <newbeee> demonspork fstab what is that sorry I dont know
[18:05] <demonspork> newbeee, Use ntfs-config - if it isn't installed you can install it by typying sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[18:05] <Sidewinder1> demonspork, I didn't have the guts to even try it; it sounded like problems from the start. Unfortunately there's many who try to use it on a long term basis and then come here when there's problems.
[18:06] <demonspork> Sidewinder1, the funny thing is that I haven't loaded my Ubuntu install in nearly a year. I started it up and found that I was on 9.10. Currently updating, lol
[18:07] <demonspork> newbeee, did you find the ntfs-config program?
[18:07] <newbeee> Sidewinder1 I use wubi because I have two partitions which I cannot erase and cannot extract more than 2 g.b using shrink volume in windows
[18:07] <newbeee> demonspork installing it
[18:07] <newbeee> demonspork Im on a slow connection
[18:07] <newbeee> demonspork finished installing let me try
[18:08] <demonspork> it should give all of the options needed to add the entry to fstab, fstab is just a list of partions and things and how Ubuntu mounts them and uses them
[18:09] <newbeee> demonspork: what to do with this program just type ntfs-config?
[18:09] <JamesJRH> Sorry, lost connection.
[18:09] <JamesJRH> How do I do this on the LiveCD which doesn't use Grub: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Manager#GRUB
[18:09] <Sidewinder1> newbeee, I didn't mean anything negative towards you or anyone else that uses wubi to "try ubuntu" as I stated, it's long term use can be problematic, that's all.
[18:09] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[18:09] <demonspork> JamesJRH, what are you trying to do that requires those steps?
[18:09] <SpiLoT> Argh! Found it. It was all the time mounted however it was mounted at "/host". Just had to click it from the Disk Utility. Thanks errbody!
[18:10] <newbeee> Hey Sidewinder I dint take it in that sense I just used that opportunity find any solution to my problem
[18:10] <Sidewinder1> Understood.
[18:10] <demonspork> newbeee, your host may be mounted at /host, look at it. SpiLoT found his windows partition mounted there
[18:10] <mithridates> who the fuck is that guy? http://memeburn.com/2011/06/browser-ubuntu-chrome-is-the-new-firefox/
[18:10] <IdleOne> !language | mithridates
[18:10] <oCean> mithridates: control your language here please
[18:10] <newbeee> demonspork: ok
[18:11] <secret> hello
[18:11] <JamesJRH> demonspork: The LiveCD is trying to be clever and do things with a partition that is faulty. This then blocks all other utilities from working.
[18:11] <newbie01> whats the point of RAM on a computer?
[18:11] <demonspork> JamesJRH, then repair the partition
[18:11] <fowlduck> is there a way to determine what features are supported by the kernel? I'd like to check if hyperthreading is enabled
[18:11] <Sidewinder1> !ram > newbie01
[18:12] <secret> how do you tell if your partison is faulty?
[18:12] <mithridates> ok does anyone know what's happening to firefox in ubuntu? why do they want to replace it with chrome and who has made this decision and why?
[18:12] <demonspork> newbie01, RAM is where the computer keeps programs that are currently in use, such as the Operating System and your web browser and xchat.  It is much much higher speed than leaving all of that information on the hard drvie
[18:12] <newbeee> The problem is that it is not mounted by default when it is on.I have to mount it manually using disk utility.When mounting it gets mounted to /media/ubuntu
[18:12] <Sidewinder1> secret, Have you tried Disk Utility in System-->Administration?
[18:12] <IdleOne> mithridates: read the article it tells you
[18:12] <demonspork> Sidewinder1, I keep forgetting that ubottu is there. Ever since they removed the !hello factoid I have ignored him
[18:12] <newbie01> demonspork,  tx
[18:13] <mithridates> IdleOne: it tells me but it doesn't make sense to me
[18:13] <demonspork> !hello
[18:13] <ZykoticK9_> mithridates, your question is OT in this channel.  This is what you get using Ubuntu... seek alternatives.
[18:13] <JamesJRH> demonspork: How? If no utilities will work? Everything either blocks and becomes uninterruptible or says it is busy.
[18:13] <tjiggi_fo> fowlduck, cat /proc/cpuinfo look for a HT flag
[18:13] <newbeee> demonspork: The problem is that it is not mounted by default when it is on.I have to mount it manually using disk utility.When mounting it gets mounted to /media/ubuntu
[18:13] <mithridates> ZykoticK9_: sure
[18:13] <Sidewinder1> demonspork, Foe those like me, whose typing is an abomination ubottu is invaluable. :D
[18:13] <fowlduck> tjiggi_fo: does that mean the cpu supports it or that the kernel does?
[18:13] <demonspork> newbeee, then the ntfs-config to change that
[18:13] <Pici> mithridates: Discussion belons in #ubuntu-offtopic , not #ubuntu
[18:13] <JamesJRH> See lines 770 onwards: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630579/
[18:14] <newbeee> demonspork: That returns an error
[18:14] <tjiggi_fo> fowlduck, cpu
[18:14] <demonspork> JamesJRH, what is the format of the partition?
[18:14] <nimbiotics> is there a channel for Urban Terror, the game?
[18:14] <newbeee> demonspork: OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/hal/fdi/policy'
[18:14] <Sidewinder1> demonspork, "Foe", see what I mean? :-(
[18:15] <demonspork> newbeee, launch ntfs-config with gksudo.  Close it, then press alt+F2 and type "gksudo ntfs-config" and see if that lets you past the error
[18:15] <JamesJRH> demonspork: Ext4.
[18:15] <fowlduck> tjiggi_fo: yeah, I need to figure out if the kernel supports it or not
[18:15] <OerHeks> nimbiotics, not on freenode
[18:16] <fowlduck> tjiggi_fo: I'm not seeing the virtual cores in top, /proc/cpuinfo, or cpuid, so i'd like to check if the kernel has it disabled or maybe if it's disabled in the bios
[18:16] <nimbiotics> OerHeks: THX, any ideas about where would I find such channel?
[18:16] <demonspork> JamesJRH, what happens when you open a terminal? even if the GUI utilities are going bonkers you should still be able to use fsck.  Type sudo fsck /dev/sda5  (replace /dev/sda5 with the correct one for your partition)
[18:16] <ilovebears> i have some strange issues with my usb stick. if i plug him into my usb3.0 port, he is not detected by ubuntu. If i use my usb extending cable or plug him into an usb2.0 port the stick works fine
[18:16] <OerHeks> nimbiotics, try google ?
[18:16] <maxo> I'm using Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (Eucalyptus). If I terminate an instance, any configuration made is lost. How can one get round this problem?
[18:16] <newtothis2> in Ubuntu is sais that i dont have the hardware to run unity please use classic what hardware do i lack??
[18:16] <nimbiotics> OerHeks: OK, THX again!
[18:17] <JamesJRH> demonspork: I'm talking about utilities like fsck.
[18:17] <demonspork> maxo,  you are probably better off in #ubuntu-server
[18:17] <demonspork> ah
[18:17] <demonspork> k
[18:17] <ZykoticK9_> newtothis2, graphics card with 3d support
[18:17] <demonspork> hmm
[18:17] <abhinav_singh> how to get system load ?
[18:17] <JamesJRH> demonspork: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630588/
[18:17] <newbeee> demonspork: No that also gives error
[18:17] <ilovebears> everything works fine with windows
[18:17] <ZykoticK9_> abhinav_singh, top
[18:17] <szal> nimbiotics: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/
[18:17] <Pici> abhinav_singh: How to create it? Or how is it calculated?
[18:17] <demonspork> newbeee, then I have no idea at that point
[18:17] <newtothis2> but i have an nvidia fx5500
[18:17] <demonspork> JamesJRH, sudo umount /dev/sda2 then try the fsck again
[18:18] <tjiggi_fo> fowlduck, I speak under correction but I think you need a kernel with SMP in the kernel name. Not sure so I can't advise you any further
[18:18] <newbeee> demonspork: Ok anyway thanks let me try something
[18:18] <ZykoticK9_> abhinav_singh, "uptime" also shows load
[18:18] <SeanB94> could someone help me with a problem im haveing
[18:18] <fowlduck> tjiggi_fo: `uname -a` # => Linux 358015-domain 2.6.38-8-server #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:49:04 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:19] <szal> tjiggi_fo: if I am informed correctly, any 64bit kernel does SMP, for the 32bit kernels, no idea though
[18:19] <demonspork> newbeee, sometimes if you open nautilus as root (alt+F2, gsudo nautilus) it will give you the option to set a permanent mount point because you will actually have permissions to do so
[18:19] <JamesJRH> demonspork: apparently it's not mounted. It's in use by 'jbd2/sda2-8' which is uninterruptible. This starts at boot. Can I stop it from running?
[18:20] <tjiggi_fo> fowlduck, szal thanks, but I'm on shakey ground - and uncomfortable telling you stuff I'm unsure of
[18:20] <SeanB94> im trying to connect my phone to my pc with a usb cable and it does not want to  say connected
[18:20] <demonspork> hmm, not very familiar with the latest releases, maybe the liveCD is running fsck on it in the background on its own? anyone else know if that is possible?
[18:20] <demonspork> SeanB94, which phone is it?
[18:20] <ZykoticK9_> fowlduck, you might want to try the #ubuntu-server channel instead
[18:20] <newbeee> demonspork:But how do I mount using nautilus
[18:20] <fowlduck> tjiggi_fo: that's fine, thanks for the info you've supplied, it led us to some other stuff that helped us confirmed that, at a minimum, it's off
[18:20] <fowlduck> ZykoticK9_: ah, cool, thanks
[18:20] <SeanB94> its the samsung seek
[18:21] <JamesJRH> What is 'jbd2/sda2-8'? How do I prevent it from starting when I boot the LiveCD?
[18:21] <Sidewinder1> newbeee, If you click on it, in Nautilus it should mount it.
[18:21] <SeanB94> when i have it connected and have the my comp window open it keeps flashing in and out
[18:21] <avengre> any suggestions for finding out what video card a laptop with ubuntu installed has? I know its nvidia... but no idea what version :/
[18:22] <demonspork> newbeee, in the navigation pane to the right side of nautilus it should show the mounted partitions and mountable disks, simply right click on the partition you want to permanently mount and then it gives some options for messing with the mount point, which you don't normally have permission to do, but now since you are running nautilus as root you should be able to mess with it.
[18:23] <SeanB94> ive tryed useing my card reader but that does not work eather
[18:23] <newbeee> demonspork:The problem is that it is not shown in left pane.The only place where I can find the disk is using disk utility
[18:23] <mrmikenev> avengre: run 'lspci' from the command prompt
[18:24] <ZykoticK9_> avengre, "lspci | grep -i vga" will show only your gfx card
[18:24] <avengre> thanks that got it
[18:24] <avengre> gf fx 5600 go
[18:24] <avengre> ew
[18:24] <demonspork> newbeee, is it mounted right now?  If so, do "cat /etc/mtab" in a terminal. You should be able to find the line that represents the options for that particular partition, then you can copy that line, and go add it to the end of the file at /etc/fstab
[18:25] <fenrig> a friend of mine is having troubles with his intel gma 4500
[18:25] <szal> SeanB94: as far as I get it, if you plug in the phone, the phone should first recognize a USB connection; if you then choose to connect as USB mass storage device (or have that preselected), you should either get a pop-up asking you what to do w/ the new device or have it auto-mounted, depending on your settings
[18:25] <newbeee> demonspork let me try that
[18:25] <avengre> Thanks for your help ZykoticK9_ and mrmikenev
[18:25] <fenrig> Xorg gives a blank screen, how do i disable the intel gpu drivers with grub?
[18:25] <fenrig> and which driver should I disable?
[18:25] <szal> SeanB94: and if it doesn't give you anything, it's probably charging the battery, then you have to wait for the charging to finish
[18:26] <SeanB94> yea it comes up as a mass storeage device but it doesnt stay there for long
[18:26] <demonspork> newbeee, you can also modify the line to mount it in whatever folder you want, but make sure that you create that folder before you mount the partition there, it doesn't like it if the folder doesn't exist
[18:26] <SeanB94> the phones fullly charged
[18:26] <sl33k_> where does unetbootin install the iso image using hdmedia install? which drive?
[18:26] <Bartzy|work> is it possible to use 'openssl req -newkey' to create a private key that has a passphrase ? I can't accomplish that.
[18:26] <SeanB94> szal may i pm u?
[18:27] <demonspork> oh shoot, hey guys, I had a dock application on my Ubuntu, just performed an upgrade and it is now gone. I also don't remember the name of the dock I was using, so can you guys suggest some of the common dock programs so that I can try to figure out which one it was?
[18:28] <Azelphur> demonspork: what did it do?
[18:28] <Toze_das_Coves> cairo dock?
[18:28] <Toze_das_Coves> avant window manager?
[18:28] <Azelphur> oh, docks. Cairo-dock is indeed the most common, there's also awn
[18:29] <rumpe1> demonspork, try "aptitude search dock | grep ^i"
[18:29] <demonspork> Azelphur, it wasn't gnome-do or avant-window-navigator, but the icons on the dock would jump straight up and down when launched or when I moved my mouse over them. It had a trashcan and a gnome menu
[18:29] <JamesJRH> How do I boot the LiveCD in runlevel 1?
[18:29] <Azelphur> demonspork: sounds like cairo-dock to me
[18:29] <sl33k_> where does unetbootin install the iso image using hdmedia install? which drive?
[18:29] <Azelphur> demonspork: cairo-dock is also known as glx-dock
[18:29] <JamesJRH> What is 'jbd2/sda2-8'? How do I prevent it from starting when I boot the LiveCD?
[18:30] <obedience> hi
[18:30] <Odedo> Hello. Where would I place a script to be executed when my machine returns from suspension?
[18:31] <the-newsman> what is the defualt user/pass for ubuntu ??
[18:31] <demonspork> Azelphur, nope, wasn't cairo-dock. The dock I was using didn't have the zoom effect
[18:31] <obedience> the-newsman, there is not default password
[18:31] <demonspork> although I do have cairo-dock installed, I wasn't using it
[18:31] <Azelphur> demonspork: cairo-dock has multiple effects, zoom and bounce are both part of cairo-dock
[18:31] <the-newsman> obedience then what is the u/p ? i am having trouble to login to ubunty 9.10
[18:31] <Azelphur> along with trash can, and menu
[18:31] <JamesJRH> the-newsman: On the LiveCD it is ubuntu with no password, just press enter.
[18:32] <SeanB94> this is starting to piss me off
[18:32] <strowi> hi
[18:32] <Azelphur> demonspork: check out the cairo-dock theme menu, you probably just had a different theme set :)
[18:32] <Toze_das_Coves> demonspork, have you tried doing what rumpe1 said?
[18:33] <the-newsman> JamesJR can i /msg u ?
[18:33] <JamesJRH> the-newsman: Yes.
[18:33] <ghabit> Hello.
[18:33] <Toze_das_Coves> Now playing: Jamiroquai- Love Foolosophy
[18:33] <ghabit> How to config default grub entry?
[18:34] <IdleOne> Toze_das_Coves: Please turn off that script
[18:34] <obedience> the-newsman, seems you are not allowed to log in... are you go going to commit malevolence ?
[18:35] <demonspork> Toze_das_Coves, i am now worried that whatever it was got uninstalled in the list of obsolete packages. I thought I checked that list thoroughly to make sure nothing I needed was in there.  Only Cairo and gnome-do appear to be installed
[18:35] <Spynxic> When I start Counter Strike (fps game) the screen is black except the game itself is in the bottom left corner of the screen, mostly off screen
[18:35] <Spynxic> Any ways to fix it?
[18:35] <SeanB94> any way to fix the car reader on the acer aspire one ?
[18:35] <Toze_das_Coves> demonspork, that's odd
[18:35] <NFischer> HI everyone! Does anybody know how i could change the data my Gnome-Clock-Applet is using.. its pretty inaccurate and i want to use the ones from the local University
[18:36] <Toze_das_Coves> maybe it was that Azelphur said
[18:36] <Toze_das_Coves> it's a different theme
[18:36] <demonspork> It should keep the settings, like the apps that should be listed on the dock are the same. I also remember it didn't seem to render as fancy as cairo-dock
[18:37] <ghabit> Hello guys, how to change grub settings? timeout, default OS, etc.
[18:37] <Toze_das_Coves> demonspork, and you can't remember the name of the dock?
[18:37] <Toze_das_Coves> not even a single word?
[18:37] <Leeds26m> anyone know if its just me, or is gyachi no longer connecting to yahoo's captcha servers?
[18:37] <Toze_das_Coves> ghabit, edit the grub.cfg
[18:37] <asdjaputra> ghabit, /etc/default/grub
[18:38] <demonspork> Toze_das_Coves, I didn't start Ubuntu for almost a year, but I spent 2 years setting up this system exactly as I wanted it before that and now I am missing the dock I had configured and customized with a custom built grayscale icon set
[18:38] <demonspork> :(
[18:38] <Toze_das_Coves> man :/
[18:39] <Toze_das_Coves> the thing is
[18:39] <Toze_das_Coves> looks very weird
[18:39] <Toze_das_Coves> like you said
[18:39] <Toze_das_Coves> if it was cairo dock
[18:39] <Toze_das_Coves> it should automatically restore the settings
[18:39] <Toze_das_Coves> that you previously had
[18:39] <demonspork> right
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Toze_das_Coves: ease on the ENTER key dude
[18:39] <ghabit> Toze_das_Coves, asdjaputra, well, I can find /etc/default/grub, but I don't know how to edit this file... I have windows7 and ubuntu on pc, and I want to make win7 default for my family.
[18:39] <demonspork> none of them are there
[18:39] <asdjaputra> ghabit, sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> ghabit: http://saji89.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/how-to-make-windows-the-defaultfirst-entry-in-your-grub2-menu/
[18:40] <Toze_das_Coves> demonspork, sorry i can't help you anymore :/
[18:40] <demonspork> thanks for trying :(
[18:40] <Toze_das_Coves> ActionParsnip, sorry about that
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> ghabit: that will make windows the default
[18:40] <demonspork> maybe I should look up packages that existed in 9.10
[18:40] <ghabit> Toze_das_Coves, asdjaputra, is the good idea to use 'startup-manager' software from synaptic?
[18:41] <asdjaputra> ghabit, ActionParsnip's answer will do the trick
[18:41] <slice092> unity is gone howt get it back?
[18:42] <jellow> Is there a keymanager that can store it's keys remotly on a server ?
[18:42] <asdjaputra> slice092, before you login pick Ubuntu Desktop at the bottom of the screen
[18:42] <Toze_das_Coves> slice092, in what session are you?
[18:42] <slice092> ubunut
[18:42] <slice092> *ubuntu
[18:43] <Toze_das_Coves> Do what asdfasdfa said. Choose Ubuntu Desktop when you're about to login. not ubuntu classic
[18:43] <amalloy> in 11.04, i modified Appearance settings to have larger fonts and it worked fine; but after a reboot every application seems to be ignoring my font sizes, even if i reset them
[18:43] <asdjaputra> Toze_das_Coves, lol that's not my name
[18:43] <Toze_das_Coves> ups sorry,
[18:43] <slice092> ok thanks will try it
[18:44] <Pici> !tab | Toze_das_Coves
[18:44] <amalloy> i think i'm using ubuntu classic, since i don't have the necessary proprietary drivers installed for unity
[18:44] <asdjaputra> Pici, maybe he did, but asdfasdfa came first before mine
[18:44] <Toze_das_Coves> i know that :)
[18:44] <Pici> asdjaputra: ah, oops ;)
[18:45] <Toze_das_Coves> btw anyone here who uses teamviewer? When i'm using it and then switch to another program, teamviewer just freezes and stands there
[18:46] <ghabit> last question please - timeout of grub - where I can set it?
[18:46] <slice092> unity is gone cant get it to work, anybody knows?
[18:47] <vatts> ghabit, i'm not pro of this but i guess it's in grub config file. explore and see...^ goodluck!
[18:47] <Toze_das_Coves> ghabit, inside the config file isn't there anything about timeout?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> there should be a server rule, no nicks with the first 4 letters duplicated.
[18:47] <oCean> ghabit: edit /etc/default/grub, then run sudo update-grub
[18:47] <Toze_das_Coves> there should be a section about timeout. Something like timeout 3
[18:47] <ghabit> Thank you!
[18:48] <slice092> nity is gone cant get it to work, anybody knows?
[18:48] <slice092> *unity
[18:48] <amalloy> in 11.04, i modified Appearance settings to have larger fonts and it worked fine; but after a reboot every application seems to be ignoring my font sizes, even if i reset them. eg, i've set application font size to 15, and even the Appearance Preferences manager ignores it
[18:48] <Pici> !details | slice092
[18:48] <IdleOne> slice092: what did you change/do before unity stopped working?
[18:48] <slice092> compaiz
[18:49] <IdleOne> slice092: open ccsm and make sure that the Unity plugin is enabled
[18:49] <gertidon> hi all
[18:49] <ndkta> hey :)
[18:49] <slice092> IdleOne: don't got terminal or nothing
[18:49] <asdjaputra> slice092, Ctrl Alt F1
[18:50] <slice092> asdjaputra: then whot?
[18:50] <gertidon> How to have colors in 'ls' command ? i only have a blue color for dirs, but want to have different colors for filetype.
[18:50] <asdjaputra> slice092, type in your login name and password
[18:50] <jellow> I want a password manager that can store it's key remotleys so I can use it on multiple computers?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> gertidon: it does that by default
[18:50] <newbeee> uname -r
[18:50] <IdleOne> slice092: after ligging into TTY1 type: startx
[18:51] <IdleOne> logging*
[18:51] <asdjaputra> slice092, wait you got a blank screen or what?
[18:51] <slice092> IdleOne: startx and gdm not working
[18:51] <slice092> asdjaputra: yes
[18:51] <asdjaputra> slice092, sudo startx
[18:51] <gertidon> ActionParsnip: what i have is the default for me, in xterm and in terminator
[18:52] <slice092> asdjaputra: sudo -i and sudo startx not working
[18:52] <gertidon> just color for folders
[18:52] <asdjaputra> slice092, su
[18:52] <Pici> gertidon: executable files aren't green?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> slice092: sudo startx is a really bad idea
[18:52] <IdleOne> slice092: is gdm installed? apt-cache policy gdm
[18:52] <slice092> IdleOne:  gdm is installd
[18:53] <asdjaputra> ActionParsnip, yeah, but you can't run x without root
[18:53] <gertidon> ActionParsnip: yes it is, and jpeg files in pink
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> gertidon: then thats it working :)
[18:53] <IdleOne> slice092: sudo service gdm start
[18:53] <gertidon> ActionParsnip: where to add the .c and .php ?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> gertidon: that I am not aware of
[18:53] <slice092> IdleOne: will try it will back soon
[18:54] <gertidon> ActionParsnip: yes you're right it works
[18:54] <asdjaputra> gertidon, ls --color=AUTO
[18:54] <Pici> gertidon: I'm pretty sure that coloring by file extension isn't supported by bash. You might be able to do it with another shell, like zsh.
[18:54] <gertidon> need to find config file for filetype
[18:54] <asdjaputra> woop, gertidon, ls --color=auto
[18:54] <gertidon> asdjaputra: doesn't work
[18:54] <gertidon> Pici: oh ! i thing you're right !
[18:54] <gertidon> remember now..
[18:55] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: sudo startx would mean that any app ran after that would be run by root correct?
[18:55] <asdjaputra> Pici, you mean, adding entries for what color is used for what extension?
[18:55] <Pici> asdjaputra: Yes.
[18:55] <slice092> still no unity
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: interestingly my X is running as root....
[18:55] <gertidon> Pici: but why it work for .jpeg file ??
[18:55] <Pici> gertidon: What color is the jpeg file?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> let me play
[18:56] <gertidon> Pici: something like pink color
[18:56] <ceed^> Hi, I am not able to burn DVDs anymore on my 11.04 laptop. CDs burn fine. I've tried several burn programs (k3b, Brasero, XFburn) and they all fail. Nothing wrong with the media either since it works on other machines
[18:56] <asdjaputra> gertidon, its built-uin
[18:56] <Pici> gertidon: Whats the output of: ls -l     on that file?
[18:56] <gertidon> Pici: the same : pink
[18:56]  * szal once heard of a planned design change in the X server and/or the kernel that would make it possible to run X as non-root
[18:57] <szal> no idea what's the status of that though
[18:57] <Pici> gertidon: Actually... let me check something. One moment.
[18:58] <m1chael> i upgraded my ubuntu, and my screen is flickering/black, i drag the mousse around and click, and things become kind of visible, it's very random and weird.. i dont know what to do to fix this.. it's a dual boot with windows xp...
[18:58] <Sidewinder1> Pici, gertidon  Interesting some of my jpegs are different colors from one another; I never really paid much attention, but it is curious.
[18:58] <asdjaputra> m1chael, i think that's normal
[18:58]  * szal has colours on for ls automatically (prolly an alias in ~/.bashrc or somthing
[18:58] <asdjaputra> m1chael, does it do that all the time?
[18:59]  * szal would rather eat mousse than drag it around :P
[18:59] <NFischer> Wie heisst das tool, mit dem man Graphen von z.B. Tempoeraturverläufen zeichnen lassen kann? (ich habe ein Webfrontend in Errinerung)
[18:59] <Pici> gertidon: Take a look at the manpage for dircolors.
[18:59] <Pici> !de | NFischer
[18:59] <gertidon> Pici: yes i found that just now :)
[18:59] <NFischer> sorry
[18:59] <NFischer> mistake
[19:00] <NFischer> i want to graph my CPU temperature.. what tool can i use for it?
[19:00] <gribouille> hi
[19:00] <Pici> gertidon: Its not bash itself that does the coloring, its dircolors setting $LS_COLORS , which is part of the coreutils package.
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630913/   seems X runs as user but X runs as root
[19:00] <gribouille> is firefox 5 available for maverick ?
[19:00] <io> !info computertemp | NFischer
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: sorry, startx as user
[19:01] <asdjaputra> gribouille, yes
[19:01] <gertidon> Pici: i see, i will add some filetype
[19:01] <asdjaputra> gribouille, but i recommend you to download from mozilla.com
[19:01] <gertidon> Pici: thanks for your help !
[19:01] <NFischer> ubottu, in an actual fact i wanted to draw Temperature from a weather-Station..
[19:01] <gribouille> asdjaputra, why ?
[19:02] <asdjaputra> gribouille, it's better that way
[19:02] <io> NFischer: then why not ask your real question initially?
[19:02] <asdjaputra> gribouille, every time i try to install from the repos it failed
[19:02] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: what I am trying to understand is why running sudo startx is bad
[19:02] <Pici> gribouille: Theres a PPA for earlier releases of Ubuntu.
[19:02] <Pici> !ff5 | gribouille
[19:03] <NFischer> io, i missed a word in english u moron!
[19:03] <asdjaputra> NFischer, nicer please
[19:03] <gribouille> Pici, I installed this repo, but ff 5 isn't available
[19:04] <Pici> gribouille: The package name is just 'firefox', do an apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure that you get it.
[19:04] <io> NFischer: initially you said that you wanted to graph your CPU temperature, but in actual fact you wanted to graph temperatures from a weather station?
[19:04] <NFischer> io, yes
 i want to graph my CPU temperature.. what tool can i use for it?
[19:04] <xangua> Pici: not still for lucid¿
[19:04] <xangua> i mean fx 5
[19:05] <gribouille> Pici, the only package available is xulrunner-1.9.2
[19:05] <lucidguy> g++ question .. I run "g++ ./helloworld.cc -o ./hello" and I get exec: 79  Permission Denied???  Any ideas?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: running as little stuff with sudo is good :)
[19:06] <Pici> gribouille, xangua: let me take a look, one moment.
[19:06] <asdjaputra> ActionParsnip, what's wrong with sudo?
[19:06] <slice092> nity is gone cant get it to work
[19:06] <io> NFischer: ok, so you didn't miss a word, you lied - ok now that we've got that straight, there are packages like graphmonkey, graphthing, graphviz etc. that might be useful for you
[19:06] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: understood
[19:06] <asdjaputra> !patient | slice092
[19:06] <io> oh, he left
[19:06] <asdjaputra> lol that doesn't do the trick
[19:07] <newbeee> !patient
[19:07] <asdjaputra> !patience | slice092
[19:07] <io> !permissions | lucidguy
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: nothing perse, just running stuff with it when its not needed can cause issues
[19:08] <slice092> ubottu: ok thanks
[19:08] <asdjaputra> ActionParsnip, ah i get it, just like doing daily stuffs in BackTrack
[19:08] <asdjaputra> heh
[19:08] <asdjaputra> slice092, its a bot.
[19:08] <slice092> asdjaputra: hahaha fail a bit tierd
[19:09] <gribouille> Pici, when I do apt-get update, I get the follwing line : Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-en
[19:09] <Pici> gribouille, xangua: I see it in mozillateam's beta channel, but not the stable.
[19:09] <asdjaputra> slice092, what did you exactly change in compiz before it went wrong
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: pretty much
[19:09] <slice092> asdjaputra: i oick
[19:09] <asdjaputra> ActionParsnip, but as long as you know where you're going with sudo, that'll be ok, especially its only for running startx
[19:09] <asdjaputra> slice092, click?
[19:10] <tortib> Hello everyone, I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 with two video cards I wanted to know if it's possible to setup Xinerama with ATI so I can move windows to my 2nd monitor.
[19:10] <slice092> pickd the cube option then i rebooted the computer then unity was gone
[19:10] <gogeta> asdjaputra: sudo startx is a bad idea its bascily going full systemn root
[19:10] <Guest55414> hello! could someone help me boor my encrypted ubuntu system after having corrupted the mbr of the additional external boot device used at startup?
[19:11] <teal> Does anyone here know how to fix a misbehaving extended desktop?
[19:11] <asdjaputra> gogeta, but then you couldn't start x
[19:11] <gogeta> asdjaputra: then your permissions are wrong
[19:11] <ArmyMan007> hi... i installed openoffice on ubuntu 11.04 and i can't find it... where is it at?
[19:11] <io> x/3
[19:11] <asdjaputra> gogeta, so how can I startx without being root?
[19:11] <ArmyMan007> hi... i installed openoffice on ubuntu 11.04 and i can't find it... where is it at (in terms of place within application folder)?
[19:12] <asdjaputra> ArmyMan007, Applications > Office
[19:12] <gogeta> asdjaputra: you need to add that to your user permissions
[19:12] <ArmyMan007> asdjaputra: it's not there
[19:13] <gogeta> asdjaputra: you will probly need to add the user to sound and video as well
[19:13] <asdjaputra> gogeta, does ubuntu do that by default?
[19:13] <gogeta> asdjaputra: yes
[19:13] <asdjaputra> gogeta, i mean, allows normal users to startx
[19:13] <icub3d> ArmyMan007, Did you install it from source?
[19:13] <gogeta> asdjaputra: yes
[19:13] <ArmyMan007> icub3d: no... installed it from software center
[19:13] <asdjaputra> gogeta, oh
[19:14] <ben1234> coucou
[19:14] <asdjaputra> gogeta, i can't run it through a terminal, foolish me
[19:14] <asdjaputra> gogeta, lol i tried to run startx from a terminal
[19:14] <icub3d> ArmyMan007, are you talking about libreoffice?
[19:14] <gogeta> asdjaputra: you can
[19:14] <asdjaputra> gogeta, no, from a GUI terminal
[19:14] <ArmyMan007> no... i'm talking about openoffice
[19:14] <asdjaputra> gogeta, should've started it with a tty
[19:14] <gogeta> asdjaputra: however gdm might aruldy be running if you havent disabled it
[19:14] <icio> I'm trying to get a 30" apple cinema display working on 11.04; apparently I'm supposed to use "AllowDualLinkModes" in xorg.conf, but I'm struggling to make it work
[19:14] <ArmyMan007> icub3d: no... i'm talking about openoffice
[19:15] <asdjaputra> gogeta, yes
[19:15] <gogeta> asdjaputra: at that ;point x is aruldy running
[19:15] <thx1138> can someone help me boot or mount encrypted ubuntu pleaaase
[19:15] <Pici> gribouille, xangua: It looks like there is still work going on thats preventing the PPA from being updated with Firefox 5.  If you keep the PPA added, it will land there eventually.
[19:15] <asdjaputra> gogeta, yes :( i totally forgot
[19:15] <icub3d> ArmyMan007, are you using unity or classic?
[19:15] <aftertaf> Anyone aware of Acer / EMachines and ATI card related issues where 11.04 has biiig issues booting ?
[19:16] <ArmyMan007> icub3d: classic
[19:16] <asdjaputra> ArmyMan007, Alt-F2, openoffice.org
[19:16] <lucidguy> seemed to have been dropped. .
[19:16] <lucidguy> g++ question .. I run "g++ ./helloworld.cc -o ./hello" and I get exec: 79  Permission Denied???  Any ideas?
[19:16] <asdjaputra> ArmyMan007, from there you can pick which application you want to run
[19:16] <asdjaputra> !patience | lucidguy
[19:17] <asdjaputra> lucidguy, and what is g++? is it like something similar to gcc
[19:17] <thx1138> Can not mount/boot encrypted ubuntu system. Please help mee!
[19:17] <icio>  /quit
[19:17] <ArmyMan007> asdjaputra: it doesn't matter.. it doesn't appear on the applications menu!
[19:17] <icio> oops ^^
[19:17] <gogeta> asdjaputra: i take it your whanting ubuntu to start in bash insteed of gdm?
[19:17] <aftertaf> Plymouth seems to not start unless i press a key (which makes the HDD led flash) many times during boot, including on the part of Plymouth where Ubuntu is written
[19:18] <asdjaputra> gogeta, no i was just asking why sudo startx is not good
[19:18] <slice092> fuck it will install a fresh 11.4
[19:18] <IdleOne> !language | slice092
[19:18] <oCean> slice092: mind your language here please
[19:18] <lucidguy> asdjaputra: same as gcc to my knowledge
[19:18] <aftertaf> this is a fresh 11.04, 64 bit, btw
[19:18] <gogeta> asdjaputra: its the same as loggin in as root all the time
[19:19] <gogeta> asdjaputra: so if you got a bad file or a rootkit it would destory the system
[19:19] <ohir> thx1138: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=611165
[19:19] <asdjaputra> gogeta, I'm logged in as me
[19:19] <asdjaputra> gogeta, whoami, I'm spiderman
[19:19] <asdjaputra> lol
[19:19] <ohir> thx1138: use search engines. 'Ubuntu encrypted rescue'
[19:19] <gogeta> asdjaputra: or just made a simple user level mastake that would normaly get blocked
[19:19] <asdjaputra> gogeta, ok i got scared already
[19:19] <gogeta> asdjaputra: lol
[19:20] <asdjaputra> gogeta, active user is me
[19:21] <asdjaputra> gogeta, i ran tty7 as me
[19:21] <asdjaputra> gogeta, so i think that should be ok
[19:21] <gogeta> asdjaputra: well if your whanting a sudo file system and stuff you can do it via sudo
[19:21] <gogeta> asdjaputra: without sudo startx
[19:21] <asdjaputra> gogeta, or with su -c
[19:21] <asdjaputra> gogeta, lol
[19:21] <gogeta> asdjaputra: most will kill me for saying this but sudo natules works
[19:21] <asdjaputra> gogeta, i didn't mean to run the display with root
[19:22] <gogeta> asdjaputra: bascily puts the file manager as super user
[19:22] <asdjaputra> gogeta, i was just asking.............
[19:22] <asdjaputra> why isn't it ok
[19:22] <ab2tract> natules?
[19:22] <asdjaputra> sudo just works
[19:22] <gogeta> i probly mispseed it but the gnome file manager
[19:22] <eustace> Hello, does anyone have the same problem as me? Skype stops working after reboot (sometimes after 2). When I try to launch it, nothing happens.
[19:22] <ab2tract> its gksudo nautilus
[19:22] <gogeta> yea
[19:23] <eustace> and I have to reinstall skype every time
[19:23] <gogeta> asdjaputra: doing that gives you root acess to the whole file system when nedded
[19:23] <asdjaputra> gogeta, i was asking why isn't it ok to run sudo startx, and then it came that running tty7 as root is dangerous.
[19:23] <asdjaputra> gogeta, and i said ok
[19:23] <gogeta> asdjaputra: k
[19:23] <asdjaputra> gogeta, so i will run it as asdjaputra
[19:24] <asdjaputra> doing other stuffs with ttys and GUI terminals with sudo
[19:24] <tortib> Has anyone here been able to successfully get Xinerama working with their ATI cards?  I've tried to add Option "Xinerama" "true" to my ServerLayout section of my xorg.conf but that causes X not to start, is there something I'm missing?
[19:24] <gogeta> tortib: i beleve atis working on that is buggy at best
[19:24] <asdjaputra> slice092, i found this http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Compiz
[19:25] <tortib> gogeta: well I have the 2nd screen up and running but I can't move windows to that screen
[19:25] <tortib> and there isn't any launcher bar or anything on that screen either so I can't start any programs up or anything
[19:25] <tortib> It's useless just sitting there.
[19:25] <gogeta> tortib: so its in extended mode?
[19:25] <tortib> I guess so it's the default setup from aticonfig --initial --adapter=all
[19:25] <aftertaf> anyone have issues with Acer/Emachines and Unity, apart from me ?
[19:26] <tortib> I can paste the xorg.conf if you would like me to
[19:26] <gogeta> tortib: ubuntu shoulda done it auto
[19:26] <asdjaputra> slice092, you still there?
[19:27] <gogeta> tortib: you should be able to go to the display settings and the 2nd monoter should be visable so you can change the settings
[19:27] <tortib> gogeta: well i get a background on the 2nd screen, but that's about it nothing else i can do with it
[19:27] <tortib> gogeta: it isn't visible
[19:27] <gogeta> tortib: should be in the 2nd display tab
[19:27] <tortib> just shows my main monitor
[19:27] <tortib> I'm under Monitor Preferences
[19:27] <tortib> there is no tab
[19:28] <gogeta> tortib: dikd you boot with it cnnected or plug it in
[19:28] <tortib> gogeta: yes like i said it's connected right now and it has the same desktop background image as my main monitor which I'm talking to you on now.
[19:28] <trollboy> nigger
[19:28] <gogeta> tortib: try starting up with it connected x might not be seeing it right away
[19:29] <tortib> gogeta: it was connected to X
[19:29] <asdjaputra> trollboy, what? lol
[19:29] <trollboy> NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
[19:29] <tortib> the entire time gogeta
[19:29] <gogeta> tortib: ubuntu doesent relly use xorg.config anymore it auto gens it
[19:29] <asdjaputra> !spam | trollboy
[19:29] <tortib> gogeta: no it does use xorg.conf what on earth are you talking about?
[19:29] <gogeta> tortib: no it does not it genrates one on the fly now it no longer looks for it
[19:30] <gogeta> tortib: you need to do some tweaks to use xorg config again
[19:30] <tortib> gogeta: then why did X stop working when I made changes to XORG.CONF, you don't know what you're talking about
[19:30] <tortib> gogeta: you're clueless
[19:30] <tortib> pulling shit out of your ass
[19:30] <oCean> cd /d
[19:30] <asdjaputra> tortib, language
[19:30] <tortib> i can say ass if i want
[19:30] <asdjaputra> tortib, and if you can do better don't ask
[19:30] <tortib> if you don't like it ignore me
[19:30] <Northernen> How can I view a list of files linked to a given file?
[19:30] <tortib> asdjaputra: at least i'm not making stuff up saying ubuntu doesn't use xorg.conf lol
[19:31] <asdjaputra> tortib, Pici is ready to kick you
[19:31] <Pici> tortib: I suggest you make yourself aware of the guidelines of this channel before continuing.  See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:31] <gogeta> tortib: thats not made up if you used a google search you would see ubuntu changed how x works
[19:31] <edbian> gogeta: It uses it if there is one.  It does not require that there is one.
[19:31] <bennis> is there a way to add a firefox tab to an open firefox via ssh?
[19:32] <maxxx> brazil
[19:32] <gogeta> edbian: :)
[19:32] <maxxx> oii
[19:32] <asdjaputra> Pici, what did you do to tortib?
[19:32] <edbian> bennis: Do you want to ssh into a machine and run firefox on that machine but see it on the client?
[19:32] <asdjaputra> !br | maxxx
[19:33] <Pici> asdjaputra: its a mute. see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[19:33] <bennis> edbian: no, i want to ssh into a machine with a user on it and type a command in and have a tab open in firefox with the link i put there
[19:33] <bennis> i don't feel like going upstairs to share my link, i wanna just push it to him :/
[19:33] <CYPER> Hello, I am going to kill myself if I don't get any help with Ubuntu
[19:33] <bennis> hardcore laziness, i'm aware ><
[19:33] <asdjaputra> Pici, oh those with + format
[19:33] <edbian> bennis: I don't know if you can do that...  perhaps firefox --display :0.0
[19:34] <Corey> CYPER: Not helpful.
[19:34] <bennis> edbian: thanks, i'll give it a shot
[19:34] <asdjaputra> CYPER, go ahead, I hope you have a good insurance
[19:34] <p014k> Hello. I'm trying to copy a dvd via brasero. I'm using the command "brasero -c" and the dialog pops up. The image of the source dvd is saved temporarily, but when the disc ejects, the command-line returns: "** (brasero:2583): WARNING **: Couldn't unmount volume in drive: /dev/sr1" and "Segmentation fault". How can I fix this?
[19:35] <JamezQ> CYPER, What is your problem?
[19:35] <hwilde> !ask | CYPER
[19:35] <kbrosnan> bennis: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Command_Line_Options#Remote_Control
[19:36] <asdjaputra> tortib, read http://www.x.org/wiki/
[19:36] <Doobie-420> CYPER, what is the question and we will try and help
[19:36] <asdjaputra> CYPER are you dead?
[19:36] <asdjaputra> heh
[19:37] <Doobie-420> he's back
[19:37] <cyper85> anyone willing to help me please
[19:37] <d0dg3> obvisouly its not that important...
[19:37] <ab2tract> with?
[19:37] <Doobie-420> sure, what is the question
[19:37] <edbian> kbrosnan: That doesn't have the answer
[19:37] <edbian> bennis: This is a good one
[19:38] <newbeee> cyper85,  go ahead and state your problem
[19:38] <siton> There is an question but he seems not to solve it.
[19:38] <cyper85> I just installed Ubuntu latest version
[19:38] <aristidesfl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/630853/ and  http://pastie.org/2106744 please heeelp setting wireless network
[19:38] <cyper85> never used Linux before
[19:38] <Gabbro> ciao a tutti
[19:38] <Pici> !enter | cyper85
[19:38] <asdjaputra> cyper85, welcome to Linux
[19:38] <asdjaputra> and
[19:38] <cyper85> and have this weird problem where sometimes all the windows freeze - I can't click any button
[19:39] <cyper85> it's like the buttons are just an image and not clickable
[19:39] <siton> cyper: just kill your natty and try to use maverick
[19:39] <asdjaputra> so the display freezed
[19:39] <cyper85> well I can move windows around and resize
[19:39] <newbeee> siton:he is new to linux dont scare him lol
[19:40] <cyper85> also I'm note sure I've installed the latest Ati drivers properly
[19:40] <asdjaputra> cyper85, use linux mint, it's a beginner distro but still have functionalities that Ubuntu has, and it uses GNOME, not Unity
[19:40] <Pici> !classic
[19:40] <siton> LOL
[19:40] <asdjaputra> Unity has a lot of problems (still) because its still in its development state
[19:40] <edbian> asdjaputra: is unity the problem here?  I don't think so.
[19:40] <Pici> Note: We do not support Mint in this channel.
[19:41] <cyper85> I've already installed Ubuntu. I don't want to start again from scratch
[19:41] <asdjaputra> edbian, promoting..
[19:41] <Pici> asdjaputra: you don't need to use Unity if you don't like it.
[19:41] <asdjaputra> Pici, oh sorry
[19:41] <asdjaputra> k
[19:41] <edbian> cyper85: You can move the windows but buttons in the window don't work? (is that right?)
[19:41] <cyper85> edbian, correct
[19:41] <p014k> I hate unity.
[19:41] <cyper85> it happens from time to time
[19:41] <siton> The unity developers should say sorry to us newbees,LOL
[19:42] <newbeee> cyper85 under administration click on additional drivers to see if any driver needs to be installed
[19:42] <edbian> cyper85: What about the x button (or max / restore)
[19:42] <Pici> siton: Do you have a support question?
[19:42] <cyper85> I clicked already - that where I installed proprietary Ati drivers. But nothing else shows there
[19:42] <edbian> cyper85: I think it is just because ubuntu is generally a little buggy.  Have you updated to completely using the update manager?
[19:42] <cyper85> X button does not work too
[19:42] <cyper85> I will try Gnome now as someone told me above
[19:43] <edbian> cyper85: sure give, regular gnome 2.x a shot
[19:43] <asdjaputra> cyper85, logout, and pick Ubuntu Classic Session at the bottom of the screen
[19:43] <edbian> cyper85: I'm fairly sure logging out and logging back out would fix the problem temporarily
[19:43] <nckBriz> anyone know howto get full screen flash to not lag ;)
[19:44] <cyper85> see it happened again: I selected Log Out but then I can't click Log out in the dialog asking me if I'm sure
[19:44] <Name141> Can anyone help me with this Xubuntu Wubi install error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/630931/
[19:44] <asdjaputra> cyper85, press enter
[19:44] <siton> Cyper: so i think the window manager of your system works worse
[19:45] <Name141> basically comes up Exception: Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO
[19:45] <cyper85> Enter doesn't work too
[19:45] <edbian> cyper85: ctrl + sysRq+ k kills the gui without asking you anything.
[19:45] <aristidesfl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/630853/ and  http://pastie.org/2106744 please heeelp setting wireless network
[19:45] <grungekid> Hey, I'm having an issue with ubuntu on my macbook 7.1. When using vlc to play videos on my external monitor the screen flashes to black as the video is loaded. Is this normal?
[19:45] <cyper85> which key is SysRq
[19:45] <asdjaputra> below PrintScrn i guess
[19:45] <asdjaputra> with Fn
[19:45] <asdjaputra> on laptop
[19:45] <cyper85> found it
[19:45] <edbian> cyper85: print screen (some computers don't have it)
[19:45] <edbian> cyper85: oh good
[19:46] <cyper85> Ctrl + SysRq + K does not work
[19:46] <cyper85> nothing happens
[19:47] <Pici> cyper85: Its alt, not ctrl.
[19:47]  * edbian thinks that is a ridiculous shortcut
[19:47] <safe> I need help!!! Error no such device:'Random crap' Grub Rescue.
[19:47] <safe> I have just removed Backtrack, and I want to get back on to Ubuntu
[19:48] <asdjaputra> safe, Random crap, decrypted, please.
[19:48] <safe> I have no idea what it is
[19:48] <safe> Just a hole load of random numbers and letters
[19:48] <asdjaputra> say it here
[19:48] <safe> Well
[19:48] <asdjaputra> oh
[19:48] <asdjaputra> lol
[19:48] <safe> I doubt its random...
[19:48] <cyper85> that just turns the screen off somehoiw
[19:48] <edbian> It's almost definitely the UUID
[19:48] <asdjaputra> where did you install grub to? MBR (master boot record) or /dev/sda1
[19:49] <safe> IDK
[19:49] <edbian> safe: can you see the grub menu at all? (can you boot ubuntu)
[19:49] <asdjaputra> what did you install first, BT or Ubuntu
[19:49] <cyper85> I installed Ubuntu on a flash drive
[19:49] <safe> I cna't boot up ubuntu...
[19:49] <cyper85> 8GB Kingston DataTraveller
[19:49] <safe> When I boot up it says... grub rescuee>
[19:49] <asdjaputra> ls
[19:49] <edbian> safe: If you press shift during the boot. Do you get the grub menu (before the grub rescue thingy)
[19:50] <safe> And above thatOk
[19:50] <safe> Trying that
[19:50] <safe> I held down shift the hole way through, nothing happend though...
[19:51] <safe> Just the same grub rescuee thing
[19:51] <edbian> safe: boot an Ubuntu live CD
[19:52] <vooze> i just switched from debian til ubuntu-server (or trying to) but for some reason, the ubuntu 11.04 server CD cant see my main harddrive.. debian can just fine.. any ideas?
[19:52] <cyper85> edbian, can I talk to you on private
[19:52] <cyper85> please
[19:52] <edbian> cyper85: we are
[19:52] <bennis> anybody else hate that if you're in list view and the folder you're in doesn't have a folder, you can't create any new files?
[19:52] <bennis> for nautilus, at least
[19:52] <asdjaputra> edbian, heh
[19:52] <edbian> asdjaputra: :P
[19:52] <safe> It;'s booting
[19:53] <asdjaputra> but yeah the IRC's so quiet now
[19:53] <asdjaputra> only 3-4 people asking
[19:53] <edbian> safe: I can't wait.
[19:53] <safe> Wow
[19:53] <safe> That's odd.
[19:53] <asdjaputra> WoW
[19:53] <edbian> There are 1585 here!
[19:53] <asdjaputra> MDLXXXV?
[19:53] <guntbert> cyper85: you can tell your client to ignore the join/part messages, so the channel will not scroll as fast for you
[19:54] <safe> That would be useful
[19:55] <safe> Ok, Edbain it has booted.
[19:56] <edbian> safe: Let's just install boot using this live Cd.  first thing you have to do is mount your ubuntu partition.  you know how to do that?
[19:56] <safe> Nope
[19:57] <edbian> safe: sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt     do you know how to find X and Y ¿
[19:57] <safe> Nope =P
[19:57] <edbian> I have no idea how I just that upside backwards question make
[19:57] <asdjaputra> safe, if this is the only partition it would've been (typically) /dev/sda1
[19:57] <edbian> safe: Look at the output of sudo fdisk -l   It will list all your partitions.  Figure out which one is your ubuntu /
[19:58] <tiox> .j #firefox
[19:58] <tiox> ...
[19:58] <safe> I've got a few disks in there all partitioned...
[19:58] <safe> So no..
[19:58] <edbian> safe: Then use sudo fdisk -l   If you can't figure it out from that gparted may be a little more friendly
[19:59] <WXZ> where can I go to get help for gtk+ other than #gtk+ and #gnome?
[19:59] <safe> Ok.
[19:59] <safe> fdisk -l doesn't return anything
[19:59] <edbian> safe: sudo fdisk -l
[19:59] <q0_0p> safe: or cfdisk
[19:59] <safe> Ok
[20:00] <asdjaputra> WXZ, if you're asking that here, you're pretty sure we can help you?
[20:00] <safe> It's /dev/sdb2
[20:00] <asdjaputra> safe, sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[20:00] <edbian> safe: sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt    (and look in /mnt at the files to confirm)
[20:00] <WXZ> asdjaputra: this place is filled with tonnes of people that are somewhat familiar with gnome
[20:00] <safe> Oh
[20:00] <WXZ> just playing the odds
[20:00] <asdjaputra> WXZ, with Unity now
[20:01] <WXZ> oh right :|
[20:01] <Pici> asdjaputra: Unity is a shell for gnome.
[20:01] <asdjaputra> sorry, should've been sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[20:01] <edbian> safe: oh ?  (that's a good thing?)
[20:01] <safe> It says it is already mounted...
[20:01] <shockrates> hey
[20:01] <asdjaputra> Pici, so it's a layer between gnome-core and us?
[20:01] <edbian> safe: great, look in /media (that's where things get automounted)
[20:01] <safe> There is a 96gb file system in the file browser.
[20:01] <edbian> safe: on in computer   whatev
[20:01] <safe> Yeah
[20:01] <shockrates> i inserted a cd in my pc and want to md5sum it. where can i browse the cd?
[20:02] <safe> In nautillys
[20:02] <safe> nautillus*
[20:02] <q0_0p> cfdisk is pretty nice
[20:02] <ab2tract> nautilus
[20:02] <Pici> shockrates: /dev/sd0 or /dev/cdrom
[20:02] <ray_> hey all
[20:02] <edbian> safe: is that a question?
[20:02] <safe> No
[20:02] <asdjaputra> /dev/sr0
[20:02] <safe> I'm wondering what I do next...
[20:02] <safe> It's monted.
[20:03] <Pici> !enter | safe
[20:03] <safe> mounted*
[20:03] <asdjaputra> or /dev/sd0
[20:03] <edbian> safe: You found the files?  what folder is it mounted in?
[20:03] <safe> Sorry =D
[20:03] <safe> Erm
[20:03] <safe> I don't know
[20:03] <edbian> safe: no worries
[20:03] <asdjaputra> edbian, it would've been /media/aosdhsoaadfwqr9qp24r8q2r
[20:03] <safe> How can I chekc?
[20:03] <asdjaputra> or something like that
[20:03] <edbian> safe: go to the files.  press the up arrow, look at what folder you're in
[20:04] <edbian> asdjaputra: yeah I know
[20:04] <safe> Ok
[20:04] <safe> It's in media, then a bunch of random letters and numbers.
[20:04] <edbian> safe: yeah so here is the deal (why I wanted it in /mnt) we're gonna have to type that so anyway.  Is this 11.04 ?
[20:04] <leblinux> Dears, is there a gui software that customize Grub2? mainly the 30_os-prober?
[20:05] <asdjaputra> leblinux, Startup manager
[20:05] <mint_> Talk to me now, Safe isn't needed.
[20:05] <safe> Tottaly true.
[20:05] <safe> Talk to mint_ instea
[20:05] <edbian> safe: ?  you don't need help anymore?
[20:05]  * safe notneeded
[20:05]  * mint_ safe
[20:05] <asdjaputra> 2nd user
[20:05] <mint_> No
[20:05] <asdjaputra> talk to mint_
[20:06] <mint_> No
[20:06] <mint_> I'm safe...
[20:06] <FloodBot1> mint_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <edbian> mint_: hi
[20:06] <mint_> But on a differant computer.
[20:06] <edbian> mint_: Are you using 11.04 ?
[20:06] <mint_> Well
[20:06] <asdjaputra> oh no
[20:06] <safe> Oh
[20:06] <safe> LOL
[20:06] <edbian> safe: pick a nick and stick with it
[20:06] <notsafe> Hello?
[20:06] <notsafe> Can you hear me?
[20:06] <guntbert> safe: mint_ don't press <enter> so often
[20:06] <asdjaputra> stop joking
[20:06] <edbian> notsafe: not funny
[20:06] <Pici> notsafe: Yes.
[20:07] <edbian> annoying
[20:07] <Name141> It seems the Wubi install can't get "metalink" , any ideas what to do about that ?
[20:07] <notsafe> Ok
[20:07] <edbian> notsafe: Are we done changing nicks?
[20:07] <notsafe> Edbian,so I've been mutedon the other one I guess we'll have to stick to here.
[20:07] <notsafe> Yes.
[20:07] <edbian> notsafe: Don't use enter so much and you won't get muted
[20:07] <asdjaputra> mint_'s unlocked, but remove it, talk with us using notsafe
[20:07] <mtx1980> hi ppl
[20:07] <edbian> notsafe: are you using 11.04 ?
[20:07] <notsafe> Ok.
[20:08] <notsafe> No.
[20:08] <notsafe> I'm using 10.1
[20:08] <edbian> notsafe: What version are you using?
[20:08] <notsafe> 0
[20:08] <shockrates> hey
[20:08] <edbian> notsafe: ok
[20:08] <notsafe> 10.10
[20:08] <sudokill> whats a very minimal and good music player? but not deadbeef
[20:08] <mint_> f
[20:08] <guntbert> notsafe: easy on <enter>!
[20:08] <shockrates> i inserted a dvd i just wrote and it doesnt appear, neither as empty or full. what can i do?
[20:08] <asdjaputra> sudokill, play from sox
[20:08] <notsafe> Sorry Guntbert.
[20:08] <edbian> notsafe: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/<numbers>/ /dev/sda       this will install grub (the bootloader) to the harddrive again   I am assuming this is the harddrive you told the bios to boot
[20:09] <sudokill> asdjaputra,??
[20:09] <sudokill> sox>
[20:09] <sudokill> ?
[20:09] <asdjaputra> sudokill, sudo apt-get install sox
[20:09] <asdjaputra> sudokill, and use the command play
[20:09] <notsafe> Gah
[20:09] <sudokill> il google it thanks
[20:09] <leblinux> asdjaputra: thanks, I've tried it and it only shows 2 tabs Boot options and advanced... I wanted to delete an entry in grub2 menu and its not in startupmanager.
[20:09] <notsafe> I need to stop the text from scrolling...
[20:09] <notsafe> I'm on irssi
[20:09] <sudokill> why not use xchat
[20:10] <asdjaputra> leblinux, its on /etc/default/grub
[20:10] <guntbert> notsafe: you are scrolling the channel yourself - tell your client to ignore the join/part messages
[20:10] <asdjaputra> sudokill, type in sudo apt-get install sox
[20:10] <dieselz> I'm trying to port forward using ssh -L, and the output indicates that the port forwarding was successful, but running netstat -tpln shows nothing binding to the port I wanted to bind to... any ideas on how to debug this?
[20:10] <asdjaputra> sudokill, in terminal
[20:10] <notsafe> Guntbert, how?
[20:10] <asdjaputra> notsafe, are you on xchat?
[20:10] <notsafe> IRSSI
[20:11] <sudokill> asdfasdfa, im not actually using ubuntu but im googlig it
[20:11] <sudokill> asdjaputra, what about mpd?
[20:11] <guntbert> notsafe: see http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[20:11] <asdjaputra> sudokill, never heard that before
[20:11] <asdjaputra> sudokill, what about alsaplayer
[20:11] <Pici> notsafe: You can scroll up and scroll down using the pageup/pagedown messages. Or use the following.
[20:11] <Pici> !quietirssi | notsafe
[20:11] <leblinux> asdjaputra: the OS entries is not located in /etc/default/grub its in 30_os-prober and it can't be edited in startupmanager any more ideas?
[20:12] <sudokill> asdjaputra, yes i saw alsaplayer and wondered if it was any good
[20:12] <sudokill> asdjaputra, i liked the look of that
[20:12] <mtx1980> theres any chance to connect to another pc (windows 7) by another with ubuntu via wifi, bought my computers, i need to transfer some data to this one
[20:12] <jjjjoe> I copy some slides from another presentation from MS Office and paste em into LO and then when I try to create a new slide it will not allow me to use bulleted items list
[20:12] <asdjaputra> sudokill, it is, and its the default audio player in slitaz
[20:12] <notsafe> Thanks
[20:12] <asdjaputra> sudokill, so its minimal
[20:12] <edbian> notsafe: did you run that grub command?
[20:12] <notsafe> I idd
[20:12] <asdjaputra> leblinux, sudo nano /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[20:12] <sudokill> asdjaputra, i think ill try alsaplayer
[20:12] <jjjjoe> Anyone good with Libre Office/Open Office  Impress
[20:13] <edbian> notsafe: did it say 'no errors reported?' ?
[20:13] <asdjaputra> sudokill, i recommend you to go to #ubuntu-bots
[20:13] <notsafe> It said it installed, but it also said: error:cannot stat 'aufs'.
[20:13] <leblinux> asdjaputra: yes but I need a GUI to edit it if there is.. and in 30_os-prober its a script like file.
[20:13] <notsafe> Then it also said 'no errors reported'.
[20:13] <cyper85> anyone experienced with Ubuntu or Linux in general?
[20:14] <asdjaputra> leblinux, i'll try to google it
[20:14] <edbian> notsafe: forget aufs (it's for a filesystem you don't have)
[20:14] <edbian> notsafe: We installed grub.  reboot, see if it works.
[20:14] <edbian> notsafe: Make sure you take out the CD
[20:14] <sudokill> asdfasdfa, obuntu bots?
[20:14] <asdjaputra> sudokill, nah, never mind
[20:14] <sudokill> lol
[20:14] <leblinux> its simple. All I need is to delete a boot entry in grub2 using any GUI software.
[20:14] <notsafe> Ahahaha! Edbian, I could kiss you now!
[20:14]  * notsafe kisses Edbian
[20:15] <notsafe> Thanks so much!
[20:15] <edbian> notsafe: ha  I'm that good huh
[20:15] <asdjaputra> leblinux, what i remember is its in /etc/default/grub, but the last time i mess with that i fall in the grub rescue mode
[20:15] <notsafe> Mo
[20:15] <edbian> cyper85 is mad at me (in PM) cause I don't know how to fix his problems
[20:15] <edbian> notsafe: Thanks
[20:15] <notsafe> No, you're better.
[20:15] <edbian> notsafe: Any other problems?
[20:15] <semitones> how can I find out how much gfx memory I have? aside from looking for the box?
[20:15] <cyper85> I'm not mad :)
[20:15] <cyper85> I'm mad at Ubuntu
[20:15] <edbian> oh good :)
[20:16] <asdjaputra> leblinux, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17787/clean-up-the-new-ubuntu-grub2-boot-menu/
[20:16] <edbian> semitones: lspci
[20:16] <semitones> ty
[20:16] <edbian> I think
[20:16] <jragon> Thanks Edbian with all his hart!
[20:16] <edbian> jragon: who the heck are you!?
[20:16] <jragon> Notsafe...
[20:16] <asdjaputra> its notsafe to answer
[20:16] <asdjaputra> lol
[20:17] <notsafe> That's me alright =D
[20:17] <edbian> jragon: ha, ur welcome
[20:17] <notsafe> Thanks guys
[20:17] <asdjaputra> ok stop you're scrolling the channel
[20:17] <semitones> edbian: that says what I have but not how much memory it has
[20:17] <edbian> semitones: then IDK
[20:18] <edbian> sorry!
[20:18] <leblinux> asdjaputra:  looks like its not there to delete a windows 7(loader) entry... thanks anyways.
[20:18] <semitones> its cool :0
[20:18] <asdjaputra> leblinux, sorry
[20:18] <leblinux> asdjaputra: I think you need to manual edit 30_os-prober --- no gui :<
[20:19] <asdjaputra> leblinux, UNIX slogan: Where there is a shell, there is a way
[20:19] <asdjaputra> leblinux, good luck, sorry i can't help lol
[20:19] <aftertaf> Found the cause, but not the reason for my bug
[20:19] <leblinux> asdjaputra: I wonder why they made it more complicated the entries used to be in the grub file in Grub1...
[20:19] <aftertaf> kernel 2.6.38-10 is NOK
[20:19] <gertidon> i have 2 commands `first` and second`. How to redirect stdout of the `first` to stdin of the `second` ?
[20:19] <semitones> edbian: found it! lscps -v -s
[20:19] <aftertaf> kernel 2.6.38-8 is OK
[20:19] <edbian> semitones: yay
[20:20] <asdjaputra> leblinux, never tried legacy grub before
[20:20] <gertidon> the second command is `pygmentize`
[20:22] <aftertaf> kernel 38-10 messes up plymouth something bad
[20:22] <guntbert> gertidon: use |     like first | second
[20:24] <gertidon> guntbert: it doesn't work with `pygmentize` command
[20:24] <guntbert> gertidon: please paste the command line you entered
[20:24] <eoss> hello, why when i create a file does the group automatically go to www-data?
[20:25] <churly> I'm trying to get zenity or yap to work, without success, to make a system tray icon, but have failed.  is there an alternative program that creates tray icons from command line?
[20:25] <gertidon> guntbert: cat search.php |pygmentize
[20:26] <rgarrigue> Good evening
[20:26] <rgarrigue> I'm looking for a bit of help with a dual screen that won't wake up
[20:26] <vicky> hi there
[20:26] <vicky> hi
[20:27] <guntbert> gertidon: I don't know about pygmentize, but why don't you say : pygmentize serach.php ?
[20:27] <Guest22134> pie
[20:27] <Guest22134> balls
[20:27] <gertidon> guntbert: because i want to do some things like : cat -n search.php|pygmentize
[20:29] <tortib> Hello, is it possible to disable untiy and get the old gnome desktop back?
[20:29] <Thraspic> I'm trying to get zenity or yap to work, without success, to make a system tray icon, but have failed.  is there an alternative program that creates tray icons from command line?
[20:30] <itaylor57> gertidon, try cat file | xargs pygmentize
[20:30] <jimmy51_> is there a linux equivalent to HTA's?
[20:30] <gertidon> itaylor57: the same, it doesn't work
[20:30] <jimmy51_> (quick GUI thrown around a script)
[20:30] <abc123xyz> tortib: yeah, when you're logging in, just choose gnome as the desktop enviroment instead of unity
[20:30] <gertidon> documentation say : pygmentize is a command that uses Pygments to highlight the input file and write the result to <outfile>. If no <infile> is given, stdin is used.
[20:31] <gertidon> if you want to try : sudo apt-get install  python-pygments
[20:31] <guntbert> gertidon: does pyg.. output anything (just wrong) or nothing?
[20:32] <itaylor57> gertidon, I would do it in a perl script myself but off topic here
[20:32] <Odedo> Hello. I've been trying to handle xrandr output (switching between laptop screen to vga etc...)It's working and everything - where would I place it so it would be called whenever a monitor is plugged\unplugged?
[20:32] <gertidon> pygmentize print the same as if i just type "pygmentize"
[20:33] <gertidon> itaylor57: not very important but just curious at why it doesn't work with pipe
[20:33] <gertidon> and how to correct this problem.
[20:33] <Odedo> sorry, question is where would I place the bash script so it would be called whenever a monitor is plugged\unplugged
[20:36] <guntbert> gertidon: for once try with pygmentize search.php, does that deliver successfully?
[20:37] <ilovebears> i have some strange issues with my usb stick. if i plug him into my usb3.0 port, he is not detected by ubuntu. If i use my usb extending cable or plug him into an usb2.0 port the stick works fine, in windows everything works fine
[20:37] <gertidon> guntbert: yes, `pygmentize search.php` works
[20:38] <claviusmond> I cannot shut down my machine, 11.04, I can click the icon, the screen goes black, and there, nothing, it can stay in black, but on, for hours
[20:39] <claviusmond> who can help meout?
[20:39] <guntbert> gertidon: strange, at the moment I cannot install anything on my machine (to try it myself), the next test: echo "some important text" | pygmentize
[20:39] <Kuifje_> hello all. "netstat -a" is showing me this "tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:telnet          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN". does this mean that it is listening for connections from any IP on port 23?
[20:40] <guntbert> Kuifje_: yes
[20:40] <cousin_mario> hello
[20:40] <Kuifje_> guntbert: ok, thanks
[20:40] <cousin_mario> do you think firefox 5 will be added to the stable repositories anytime soon?
[20:41] <gertidon> guntbert: same as if i just type `pygmentize`
[20:43] <guntbert> gertidon: it looks like pygmentize doesn't use stdin at all - strange
[20:44] <guntbert> !nickspam > jsjgruber
[20:44] <gertidon> guntbert: yes but documentation say : If no <infile> is given, stdin is used.
[20:44] <abc123xyz_> ubottu
[20:45] <guntbert> gertidon: yes, you said so - I have no way to test anything at the moment - sorry
[20:46] <gertidon> guntbert: ok, thanks you for your time ;)
[20:46] <slice092> hej
[20:46] <sarthor> HI, here is the output of my lsusb, is my finger print device is mentioned here? how can i make it working. http://pastebin.com/DgGjS2FC
[20:46] <guntbert> gertidon: Good luck :-)
[20:47] <RA_drc> !nickspam
[20:47] <Guest70238> hi
[20:47] <RA_drc> !spam
[20:48] <RA_drc> !firefox
[20:48] <Psydoll> hello i just downloaded a .run file, typed chmod +x thefile then ./thefile and it lead me to a license which i accepted, now i cant find the program on the gui to run it?
[20:48] <Psydoll> i want to use the program, now that i have it installed
[20:49] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: run the name of the program in terminal
[20:49] <abc123xyz_> what us the program?
[20:49] <Psydoll> teamspeak
[20:49] <abc123xyz_> try opening terminal and typing in temspeak
[20:49] <abc123xyz_> then enter
[20:50] <Psydoll> yeah actually already tried that..
[20:50] <guntbert> !askthebot > RA_drc
[20:50] <Psydoll> it saying its not installed and i can get it by doing sudo-apt get install teamspeak.
[20:50] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: so you're not sure if it's installed or not
[20:50] <Psydoll> yeah basically..
[20:50] <Psydoll> plz help
[20:50] <Psydoll> never used a .run file before
[20:50] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: why not just install with apt-get then?
[20:51] <junglejim> hi, I have an Ubntu notebook that sometimes when it comes out of sleep mode it hangs. I think I found some entries in /var/log/messages but not sure what they are saying - If I could understand them then I may be able to start looking for a soloution - pasted relevant bit here: http://pastebin.com/0yCv2jCM
[20:51] <Psydoll> because im new to linux and trying to learn all different ways of installing, from a .tar.gz, .deb. and .run etcc
[20:51] <Psydoll> and .rpm
[20:51] <Psydoll> .run is the last one until i can do it all
[20:51] <trism> gertidon: cat file | pygmentize -g; works: it seems you are required to pass a lexer in or use the -g option to try to guess the lexer. It seems the manpage needs to be updated
[20:51] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: alright the problem may be that you didn't run the .sh file as sudo, so it doesn't allow it to install so do: sudo sh thefile.sh
[20:52] <Psydoll> ok let me try
[20:52] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: wait is it an .sh file or .run?
[20:52] <Psydoll> .run
[20:52] <Sidewinder1> Psydoll, Better yet, Teamspeak is in the repositories. Use Synaptic Package Mgr. to install/configure it.
[20:52] <gertidon> trism: yes it works, thanks
[20:53] <gertidon> guntbert: trim found a solution.
[20:53] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: alright, you need to run the script as sudo so try sudo thefile.run in terminal, see if it works
[20:53] <gertidon> guntbert: trism*
[20:53] <guntbert> trism: good catch !
[20:54] <Psydoll> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ sudo TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_x86-3.0.0-rc2.run
[20:54] <Psydoll> sudo: TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_x86-3.0.0-rc2.run: command not found
[20:54] <junglejim> Does any know if this line in /var/log/messages means that X crashed? Pid: 32462, comm: Xorg Tainted: G         C  2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu FJNB19C/LIFEBOOK S7020
[20:54] <Fuchs> Psydoll: ./
[20:55] <Psydoll> Fuchs: i already tried ./thefilename
[20:55] <Fuchs> Psydoll: since it is not in $PATH, you have to put ./ in front of the filename
[20:55] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: my bad try sudo ./thefile.run
[20:55] <Fuchs> Psydoll: then check whether it is executable, if it is not, chmod +x it
[20:56] <Psydoll> ok i just done that
[20:56] <Psydoll> now, how do i run the program please?
[20:56] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: didn't it start installation?
[20:56] <Psydoll> the sudo didnt make much of an affect from the previous ./thefilename
[20:56] <Psydoll> abc123xyz_: i got a large ammount of text on the terminal so ues i think so.
[20:56] <Psydoll> yes*
[20:57] <craigbass1976> WHere's the x config file.  I was just in here the other day and got things running.  I believe I entered a bogus screen in a config file, and that it's causing me trouble now, but I'm not sure which config file that was, or even where to look for it. xorg.conf has disappeared since the last time I had to mess with anything
[20:57] <Psydoll> I got the license which i accepted and it started installation.
[20:57] <RA_drc> !askthebot
[20:57] <neswii> is there an official chat for banshee?
[20:57] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: does it tell you to confirm anything in terminal, what's the terminal show?
[20:57] <Psydoll> abc one sec
[20:57] <neswii> i have a small question about it
[20:58] <Psydoll> abc123xyz_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630961/
[20:58] <Psydoll> thats what i get
[20:59] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: them it's still working, says uncompressing, you need to wait, if any of the text in terminal changes, let me know
[20:59] <SolarBoom1> how to install nvidia driver?
[21:00] <Psydoll> abc123xyz_: the text has finished and im back to ubuntu@ubuntu
[21:00] <Psydoll> so how do i get the teamspeak client opened up now
[21:00] <junglejim> Does any know if this line in /var/log/messages means that X crashed? Pid: 32462, comm: Xorg Tainted: G         C  2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu FJNB19C/LIFEBOOK S7020
[21:00] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: just type in teamspeak and then press enter
[21:00] <Sidewinder1> Psydoll, Looks to me like you're trying to install teamspeak, but you're booted to LiveCD?
[21:01] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: wait are you running a livecd?
[21:01] <Psydoll> Sidewinder1: Im running ubuntu on a persistent live usb
[21:01] <thedude1> if I connect my USB DVD drive, it just rattles a few seconds and seems to turn off - what can i do?
[21:01] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: alright then it should work
[21:01] <Sidewinder1> OIC
[21:01] <abc123xyz_> so did teamspeak do it?
[21:02] <Psydoll> it says its still not installed
[21:02] <Psydoll> http://paste.ubuntu.com/630966/
[21:02] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: hmm try this type team and then press enter
[21:02] <Psydoll> command not found
[21:02] <SolarBoom1> guys how do i install nvidia driver on my ubuntu 11.04?
[21:02] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: alright type in teamspeak-client
[21:03] <Psydoll> command not found
[21:03] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: can you give me the output of the installation? the one that was running for install
[21:03] <craigbass1976> !xorg.conf
[21:03] <abc123xyz_> all the way to the end, all you gave was teh uncompressing
[21:04] <Psydoll> abc123xyz_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630967/
[21:04] <Psydoll> thats all i got
[21:04] <Psydoll> then it returned to ubuntu@ubuntu
[21:04] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: hmm
[21:04] <eoss> when i type groups and id different groups come up, hwy
[21:04] <eoss> why
[21:05] <eoss> i tried to add myself back to a group and i type groups it doesnt show up but shows up in id command and allso groups <name> command
[21:05] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: is there any type of folder in your home directory?
[21:05] <Sidewinder1> abc123xyz_, Correct me if I'm wrong, but, Psydoll  said thet he's running from persistant LiveUSB; isn't that the same thing as running from LiveCD? To the best of my knowledge, nothing, other than ubuntu can be installed from that Live environment...
[21:06] <Psydoll> abc123xyz_: no just the usual folders
[21:07] <stercor> How do I stop completed tasks from showing in Evolution's task summary?
[21:07] <abc123xyz_> Sidewinder1: persistent means it can save changes, so it should be able to save any changes made on the usb unless he set the persistence to 0%, but he does have the .run file so it's allowing saving
[21:07] <Psydoll> abc123xyz_: This is a waste of time, i just done sudo-apt get install teamspeak and it installed fine and its up and running now.
[21:07] <Psydoll> abc123xyz_: and the others thanks for your help
[21:07] <Psydoll> abc123xyz_: for some reason its not liking the .run files
[21:07] <thedude1> my external DVD drive doesn't show up anywhere, how do i get it working
[21:07] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: you're better off installing from repos, because it's made to run stable on the distro
[21:07] <eoss> added it to primary and now shows up in groups
[21:07] <eoss> WEIRD
[21:07] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: whereas from .run file, might be unstable
[21:08] <Psydoll> abc123xyz_: Where can i find a list of all the programs available in the ubuntu repositories, i dont know what programs are available so i know what i can get?
[21:08] <Sidewinder1> abc123xyz_, I suggested Synaptic to him about a page or so, back...
[21:08] <shorttech> hi all
[21:09] <edbian> Anyone here ever used bitcoin on linux?
[21:09] <shorttech> guys I just switched from Mandriva to Ubuntu
[21:09] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: not sure if you can really get a list, here you can try sudo apt-cache search nameofprogram to see if it's available in repos
[21:09] <io> !packages | Psydoll
[21:09] <Sidewinder1> !ot > edbian
[21:10] <edbian> jeez
[21:10] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: or you can do sudo apt-cache search a* should give you all packages starting with a
[21:10] <cogitorn> A better trigger would have been !anyone
[21:10] <cogitorn> '
[21:10] <io> or use a GUI
[21:10] <Psydoll>  ty
[21:10] <shorttech> guys I just swtiched from mandriva, but I cant even get the terminal to work on Ubuntu
[21:11] <Sidewinder1> edbian, There's a lot of folks that use it and discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:11] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: np, also wikipedia gives a lot of info about programs in linux for music, video, ....
[21:11] <shorttech> when I press Ctrl + Alt +1
[21:11] <chaddy> shorttech: grub menu then black screen?
[21:11] <shorttech> I go into the termintal
[21:11] <shorttech> but it wont accept my password
[21:11] <Flecks> how big do i need grub bios boot partition?
[21:12] <shorttech> chaddy did you get that?
[21:12] <craigbass1976> shorttech: and it does from the GUI?
[21:12] <abc123xyz_> Psydoll: and usually .run files you can run np, just weird that this one was giving a problem
[21:12] <shorttech> the GUI is not working properly, I made some changes to the video driver
[21:12] <chaddy> try recovery mode, then as root passwd <user> will prompt to reset password
[21:12] <chaddy> you might have typoed it
[21:13] <craigbass1976> shorttech: aha...  you sound like you're in the same boat I am.  Did you ever give yourself a password initially?
[21:13] <Sidewinder1> abc123xyz_, Often folks that are new to ubuntu, try to jump in with cli and I usually try to stear them to Synaptic; it's so much easier, coming from a win environment.
[21:13] <litropy> !computers
[21:13] <shorttech> craigbass1976 when I did the installation it asked for a password
[21:13] <abc123xyz_> Sidewinder1: yeah, but they have to learn sometime, plus it's soooo much faster :)
[21:14] <shorttech> craigbass1976 but I tought it was a bit strange that it didnt ask for a root password
[21:14] <craigbass1976> shorttech: weird...  Well, did the GUI EVER work?  You might have to boot to a livecd, chroot, and change your pass that way, then try logging in again
[21:14] <shorttech> craigbass1976 does that mean Im SOL???
[21:14] <Sidewinder1> abc123xyz_, Just my two cents but I agree; it's also more powerful...
[21:14] <Ju-PeRi> ongelmia mokkula cs-17 kans
[21:14] <craigbass1976> shorttech: you should know better.  How often are you really SOL in linux?  :)
[21:15] <shorttech> craigbass1976 yes the GUI worked, but when I try to configure nvidia-setting for my second screen things went bad
[21:15] <abc123xyz_> Sidewinder1: how else in GUI can I get a cow to read my fortune?
[21:15] <abc123xyz_> lol
[21:15] <shorttech> craigbass1976 quite often actually since Im a newbie..
[21:15] <shorttech> craigbass1976 :)
[21:15] <MarcSCO> hi all
[21:15] <abys> hey, I can't get vuze working on my natty 64bits... The search engine isn't working, even if I copy the version I've got on my other natty 64bit laptop... any idea?
[21:15] <Sidewinder1> abc123xyz_, By examining his/her cloven hoofs?
[21:15] <mezmarize> ciaoo a tutti
[21:16] <abc123xyz_> :)
[21:16] <shorttech> craigbass1976 here is what I see when I go into the terminal - it seems a bit odd.
[21:16] <Sidewinder1> !it > mezmarize
[21:16] <Aison> are there 195 nvidia drivers? I need the latest version because i'm using kernel 3.0 ^^
[21:16] <craigbass1976> shorttech: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/   This will walk you through resetting your password with a livecd.
[21:16] <shorttech> craigbass1976 shorttech-System-Product-Name
[21:16] <Aison> or do I have to compile these drivers myself also?
[21:16] <abc123xyz_> kernel 3.0 lol
[21:17] <ProtiX> I need some help please ...with my ubuntu
[21:17] <ProtiX> it`s urgently
[21:17] <Sidewinder1> abc123xyz_, And compiling is next. :-)
[21:17] <abc123xyz_> ProtiX: tell us the problem instead of telling us you need help
[21:17] <abys> ProtiX:  ask your question if you want help
[21:17] <ProtiX> hello
[21:17] <ProtiX> i need some support
[21:17] <ProtiX> with instal the last version of ubuntu
[21:17] <shashank_> whats the issue ?
[21:18] <abc123xyz_> Sidewinder1: ehh ehh compiling :/
[21:18] <Sidewinder1> !ask | ProtiX
[21:18] <ProtiX> when i`m instaling the ubuntu
[21:18] <ProtiX> an error apears
[21:18] <Sidewinder1> and...
[21:18] <ProtiX> No root file..
[21:18] <abc123xyz_> lol
[21:18] <ProtiX> No root file..is defined
[21:19] <ProtiX> i want to instal the Ubuntu  without removing the win 7
[21:19]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs and wanders off in shame...
[21:19] <ProtiX> what i have to do ?
[21:19] <abc123xyz_> ProtiX: the only thing you get is no root file or is there more to the error
[21:19] <qin> ProtiX: You need / mount point defined in your installation
[21:20] <y3o05aRk> agree with qin
[21:20] <ProtiX> ok..how can i do that?
[21:20] <abys> anyone to give me a hand on my vuze? The default version of it is 64bit but it's acting like I'm using the swt.jar from the wrong version...
[21:20] <Sidewinder1> ProtiX, Have a good look here, it should answer all of your questions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.ph
[21:20] <abc123xyz_> you need to set / as one of the mount points for the parititon
[21:20] <ProtiX> ok
[21:20] <ProtiX> i understand
[21:20] <ProtiX> but how?
[21:20] <qin> ProtiX: Do you do manual partitioning?
[21:20] <y3o05aRk> if you are new to ubuntu why dont u try the wubi installer
[21:20] <abc123xyz_> ou're in a GUI installer just look for it
[21:20] <ProtiX> Error 404: The page you were looking for is missing.
[21:20] <ProtiX> If you're not automatically redirected within four seconds, please click here to go to our main page.
[21:21] <abys> ProtiX:  if you don't have other os, autopartition
[21:21] <ProtiX> error at Sidewinder1 link
[21:21] <ProtiX> yes
[21:21] <ProtiX> i don`t want to format
[21:21] <ProtiX> any partition
[21:21] <abc123xyz_> abys: he has win7 which he wants to keep
[21:21] <ProtiX> yes abc123xyz_
[21:21] <Sidewinder1> ProtiX, Sorry, it's here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[21:21] <ProtiX> i want also dual-boot
[21:21] <abc123xyz_> ProtiX: you need to create a partition either by resizing the windows 7 one or you'll need to run Wubi
[21:22] <shorttech> so how is nvidia support on ubuntu?
[21:22] <feydr> just installed from latest cd but it won't boot -- just get an underscore -- first time w/ssd+sata -- maybe some sort of gotcha there?
[21:22] <eoss> Question, is it possible to have a default group for a directory when anyone creates a file in it
[21:22] <litropy> !1337
[21:22] <ProtiX> ok////i need assistence with that
[21:22] <ProtiX> i don`t know how to do that
[21:22] <Sidewinder1> abc123xyz_, If you advise wubi, you can answer ALL of the numerous questions upon his return.
[21:23] <abc123xyz_> ProtiX: just use Wubi through Windows, because Grub will destroy your Windows boot manager
[21:23] <Sidewinder1> No, it won't!
[21:23] <abc123xyz_> Sidewinder1: yeah, cause Grub is going to destroy Windows 7 bootloader as well, then god help him
[21:23] <ProtiX> abc123xyz_, you say that i need to run the .exe form CD in Win 7 ? ...without booting the cd ?
[21:23] <abys> !wubi
[21:23] <aristidesfl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/630853/ and  http://pastie.org/2106744 please heeelp setting wireless network
[21:24] <Sidewinder1> I'm outta here! Good luck all!
[21:25] <abc123xyz_> ProtiX: alright, just download Wubi itll allow you to install Ubuntu from within Windows
[21:25] <y3o05aRk> @ProtiX yes just put in the cd while logged into windows 7 and then run the setupp
[21:25] <ProtiX> y3o05aRk, ok...
[21:25] <ProtiX> it should work ?
[21:25] <jack_lt> how do I remove that envelope in the panel tray, ubuntu lucid ?
[21:25] <abys> yep
[21:25] <ProtiX> y3o05aRk, i need also dual boot
[21:25] <jack_lt> I did remove evolution already
[21:26] <aristidesfl> what is /var/run/wpa_supplicant.wlan0.pid supposed for?
[21:26] <abys> jack_lt:  why do you want to do that?
[21:26] <jack_lt> abys, don't play therapist please ;)
[21:26] <abc123xyz_> ProtiX: it will dual boot for you, don't worry
[21:27] <ProtiX> ok....abc123 , y3o05aRk ..
[21:27] <ProtiX> now i will restart my PC
[21:27] <ProtiX> and then instal Ubuntu while logged in win 7
[21:27] <ProtiX> ok ?
[21:27] <abys> jack_lt:  if I don't know what you want I can't help you, up to you
[21:27] <jack_lt> abys, I want to remove it
[21:27] <abc123xyz_> ProtiX: yes
[21:28] <jack_lt> abys, I know what I want
[21:28] <ProtiX> ok
[21:28] <abys> jack_lt: good luck with that :)
[21:28] <ProtiX> i`ll stay here on channle while the instal ends  , ok ?
[21:28] <Akkar1n> hello, when i want to restart or shutdown via the gnome panel it always sends me back to the gdm. does anyone know how to fix that error?
[21:28] <jack_lt> abys, thanks dad!
[21:28] <qin> Sweet.
[21:28] <abc123xyz_> ProtiX: alright
[21:28] <ronsonol> Need help with terminology describing a bug related to a program GUI.
[21:28] <usuario> maiicol_sexxy18@hotmail.com
[21:29] <io> ronsonol: #ubuntu-bugs
[21:29] <abc123xyz_> and why would we want his e-mail lol
[21:29] <ronsonol> io: okay, didn't know they were there for that.
[21:29] <shorttech> does Ubuntu support XFdrake????
[21:31] <io> shorttech: that's for PCLos and Mandriva
[21:32] <io> shorttech: ask your real question. what do you want to do?
[21:32] <shorttech> io change my graphic settings
[21:33] <io> shorttech: what do you want to change?
[21:33] <shorttech> io what should i use the change my X configuration?
[21:33] <mikeshultz> So, what has xorg.conf been replaced with?
[21:34] <abys> ok I fixed my vuze thanks!
[21:34] <ZykoticK9_> mikeshultz, nothing - xorg is mainly automatic these days - but if you need an xorg.conf you can generate one, and it will be used.
[21:34] <XAT> hi guys, how can i install mysql on ubuntu ?
[21:34] <io> !xorg | mikeshultz shorttech
[21:34] <io> !mysql | XAT
[21:35] <XAT> copy
[21:35] <XAT> thanks
[21:35] <][-e-][> XAT
[21:35] <][-e-][> please
[21:35] <DannyButterman> Hi There. Does some one know how to troubleshoot a VPN connection problem over wifi ? It's an ath9k driver, and the log tells me 'ath9k:Failed to stop TX DMA in 100 msec after killing last frame"
[21:35] <][-e-][> wget eggdrop
[21:35] <][-e-][> ?? help
[21:35] <mikeshultz> ZykoticK9_: I need to set defaults for users now.  Without xorg.conf, where would I go for this?
[21:35] <FloodBot1> ][-e-][: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:36] <ZykoticK9_> mikeshultz, "defaults for users" what do you mean?  Xorg is configured globally generally.  I don't know if it's even possible to have it "user" specific... maybe?  Best of luck.
[21:36] <io> !info eggdrop | ][-e-][
[21:36] <io> !software | ][-e-][
[21:37] <mikeshultz> ZykoticK9_: I can tell you if I set the resolution for one user, it reverts back for others.  Though this is weird, I actually had to turn off one of the display ports to set the resolution properly, so maybe that's just it.
[21:37] <DannyButterman> Does some one have any luck with an ath9k driver for a VPN connection over wifi ?
[21:37] <admgy22> hi - if I'm a sudoer, can I change into another user?  (something like sudo ___ [otheruser'sname])?
[21:38] <][-e-][> !help
[21:38] <io> !su | admgy22
[21:38] <ZykoticK9_> mikeshultz, if you use an xorg.conf it will be used by all users... sorry I don't really have a suggestion.
[21:38] <][-e-][> ubottu speak spanish ??
[21:38] <mikeshultz> ZykoticK9_: Although, I did just see that you can have xrandr mods set persistently.  That will probably work.  Thanks.
[21:38] <io> admgy22: sudo -u "user" command
[21:39] <admgy22> thanks
[21:39] <admgy22> it's the same as sudo su, right?  or is one preferable?
[21:39] <teal> Hello, after ugrading to Ubuntu 10.10 the extended desk top feature system/preferences/monitors is extending the desk tops of the monitors individually, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
[21:39] <ZykoticK9_> admgy22, "su user" is more typical
[21:39] <io> admgy22: use sudo
[21:39] <io> ZykoticK9_: there is no such thing as typical
[21:39] <admgy22> no I mean "sudo su _user_" versus "sudo -u __user__"
[21:39] <shorttech> does anyone have experience with dual monitors???
[21:39] <admgy22> they're the same (the two commands i just gave) right?
[21:40] <jrib> admgy22: no
[21:40] <io> admgy22: no. one is sudo the other is su
[21:40] <admgy22> ohhh
[21:40] <Kolt> Why am I unaable to boot my asus w1v to install ubuntu? It stucks at some loadscreen
[21:40] <admgy22> when you say "sudo su <user>" you're running su with higher privelegs right?
[21:40] <vatts> sudo = superuser do. switches to root user for that line
[21:41] <vatts> su = switch user = you continue as root untill you log out of term
[21:41] <teal> shorttech, I have a problem with dual monitors what is your need?
[21:41] <vatts> sudo su is needed to switch users.
[21:41] <io> you're using sudo to access root privalidges to run su to run as another user
[21:41] <sarthor> Hi. my lsusb says. 1c7a:0801 LighTuning Technology Inc.. how can i install driver for this fingerprint device.
[21:41] <admgy22> okay
[21:41] <admgy22> I'm just going to type "sudo su <user>" and ignoire what you said above about "sudo -u" it seems this is the normal way to do it.
[21:41] <jspiros> Is there any way for me to change the default GTK keyboard triggers for copy/paste/open/save/etc., for all apps?
[21:42] <jspiros> I know I can change them per-app, but it's getting tedious
[21:42] <vatts> and sudo su [username] will get you from your uname -> root -> username
[21:42] <jrib> admgy22: don't do sudo su <user>.  If you want something similar, do: sudo -u user -i
[21:42] <admgy22> jrib: could you explain why?
[21:42] <vatts> jrib, he wants to log into other account via su ><
[21:42] <admgy22> yes
[21:42] <admgy22> exactly
[21:42] <jrib> admgy22: what I said, does that
[21:42] <Cheapp> is there a shortcut to open terminal in xubuntu?
[21:42] <jspiros> I'm a Mac user, and I'm looking to switch to Ubuntu, and I'd like to use super-c and super-v for copy and paste, and so on, instead of the control key
[21:42] <shorttech> can anyone help with dual monitor support?
[21:42] <admgy22> and I'm getting two conflicting ways to do it.  I wnt to do the "better" one for having the bash history o the other user to scroll through etc
[21:42] <Cheapp> ctrl+ alt + t doesnt work
[21:42] <ZykoticK9_> admgy22, if I where you i'd listen to jrib's suggestion
[21:43] <jspiros> I would also like Emacs-style text editing in text areas, with control-a and control-e and friends, if possible
[21:43] <coz_> sarthor,   I am seeing a few hits on google with this search string   ubuntu LighTuning Technology thumb print driver
 can anyone help with dual monitor support?   I may be able to help you
[21:43] <jrib> admgy22: it's preferable because you are just running sudo, not su inside sudo.  That's if you want to change to another account as a superuser.  If you just want to login to another account (you know its login credentials), then just do "su - <user>".  But sudo and su simultaneously is kind of silly
[21:44] <shorttech> teal I have an nvidia driver and Im trying to set up my second monitor
[21:44] <sarthor> coz_: yes. can you help to install its driver. and make it working.
[21:44] <admgy22> jrib: gotcha
[21:44] <admgy22> and agree normally
[21:44] <admgy22> I'd like to get access to the other user's history etc for auditing purposes (the bash history)
[21:44] <admgy22> that's why I was asking
[21:44] <coz_> sarthor,  do you have a driver download link?
[21:44] <shorttech> teal currently Im using the driver assigned by ubuntu when I did the installation. I ran nvidia-settings already and when I activated xinerema I had problems
[21:45] <mastertheknife> Hi. How come there is no package for libjpeg-turbo ?
[21:45] <chaddy> admgy22: if it's for auditing try acct, users can edit their own bash_history
[21:45] <coz_> shorttech,   open nvidia settings..click the "X Server Display Configuration"   click the secondary monitor image  configure-twinview- resolution
[21:45] <sarthor> coz_: no
[21:45] <shorttech> teal the second screen was on (I was able to move the mouse curser over) but it was black!
[21:45] <ZykoticK9_> admgy22, in that case you might be able to use "sudo cat /home/USERNAME/.bash_history"
[21:45] <jrib> admgy22: « sudo -u USER -i » will log you in as user (and you don't need to know USER's password, but your user must be able to sudo).  « su - USER » logs in as USER (you need to know USER's password).  Both allow you to do what you just said (check history, etc.)
[21:45] <ProtiX> abc123xyz_, the instal was stopped by this error:  error apears , Permision denied: For more information please see the log file :  c:\....\temp\wubi-11.04-rev211.log
[21:45] <coz_> shorttech,  if you want that to be permanent  open  sudo nvidia-settings and make the changes    write x configuration file
 my understanding there is a menu for nvidia, and it is pretty much self explanatory. I have seen post on the inter net
[21:46] <Guest9854> any way to find the location of a program's tray icon image to replace it?
[21:46] <coz_> sarthor,  then I am not sure I can help without taking alook at the driver package
[21:46] <admgy22> what's in /var/log/btmp usually?
[21:46] <ZykoticK9_> coz_, you should really be suggesting gksu for an GUI apps.  shorttech
[21:46] <sarthor> coz_: but i do not know, where to find the driver.
[21:47] <shorttech> ZykoticK9_what do you mean by gksu? is that a driver or software?
[21:47] <ZykoticK9_> shorttech, sudo really should be used to start GUI applications, use gksu instead
[21:47] <coz_> sarthor,   I have no experience with thumb scanner 's  and their drivers... sorry,, if you can find a linux driver package for that  ,, it would be helpful,, you can goodle   that  with by adding linux driver to that search string
[21:47] <ZykoticK9_> shorttech, s/should/shouldn't/
[21:48] <shorttech> one more question
[21:48] <ProtiX> abc123xyz_, the instal was stopped by this error:  error apears , Permision denied: For more information please see the log file :  c:\....\temp\wubi-11.04-rev211.log
[21:49] <shorttech> why is it that I can log in when I go into the crub by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[21:49] <shorttech> It dosnt accept my username and password
[21:49] <abc123xyz_> ProtiX: I asked you what you did before you got the error
[21:49] <coz_> shorttech,   it should easily accept it,, are you using your regular user login name and password?
[21:49] <ProtiX> nothing
[21:49] <ProtiX> just instal
[21:49] <feydr> I can boot from a live cd, but after installation it won't boot from disk -- even if I go through the livecd and choose that option -- any suggetions?
[21:49] <ProtiX> and there`s the error
[21:50] <ProtiX> i`ve insert the disk
[21:50] <ProtiX> i`ve select the second buton
[21:51] <shorttech> coz_ but when I did the install it did not ask me for a root password
[21:51] <ProtiX> i`ve check 1- gb..
[21:51] <ProtiX> 10
[21:51] <ProtiX> forward..
[21:51] <ProtiX> and then apears is instaling..
[21:51] <ProtiX> and then error
[21:51] <FloodBot1> ProtiX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <ProtiX> that error
[21:51] <shorttech> coz_ I just dont understand... Im coming from Mandriva and I used to be able to go into grub log in and use su when necessary, but now I cant even log in
[21:51] <coz_> shorttech,  no root password  there in ctrl+alt+F1    hit that  ,, use your regular user nick,, regular password,, if you want root access type  sudo -i  then use regular user password
[21:52] <eoss> hello, how can i set a folder and all files in it to be part of a specific group when users add files to it?
[21:52] <teal>  coz I have aproblem with extended desktop malfunction, can you help me?
[21:53] <admgy22> can I pm someone here the last admin's final few actions (after clearing their bash history) as their own user for you to tell me if that was malicious?  (deleting some logs and stuff) or routine?
[21:53] <ProtiX> so..what i have to do ?
[21:53] <faz_> how can i find the location where apt-get installed something?
[21:53] <lee_> hello
[21:53] <shorttech> coz_ the problem is that when I press ctrl+alt+F1  and type my user and pass it doesnt work
[21:53] <trism> faz_: dpkg -L package_name; replacing package_name with the package you installed with apt-get
[21:54] <shorttech> coz_ I keep getting login incorrect
[21:54] <faz_> trism: ty
[21:54] <coz_> shorttech,  mm  there should be no issue with that... you dont have caps lock on or anything...yes
[21:54] <grungekid> exit
[21:55] <chaddy>  /quit
[21:55] <XAT> guys can you advise me how to build a virtual hosts for apache in ubuntu ?
[21:56] <XAT> i mean i have a static ip address without domain name. how can i build 2 different websites on it ?
[21:56] <coz_> shorttech,  you could go to /system/preferences/about me   change your password  to see if that is the issue
[21:56] <histo> why does root own the .vim folder in my home?
[21:56] <shorttech> coz_ no I dont have caps or anything like that... It does seems odd that I see a long txt when ctrl+alt+F1  is pressed. I see shorttech-System-Product-Name Login:
[21:56] <guntbert> XAT: if you don't get good answers here you could ask in #httpd or in #ubuntu-server
[21:56] <alexb_1> hi all, can anyone recommend good usb lamp? need to be able to turn if on /off using soft. thanks.
[21:56] <shorttech> coz_ does that looks normal? By the way I already changed the password
[21:57] <guntbert> alexb_1: not really on topic here
[21:57] <coz_> shorttech,  hmm  let me see if I can find something   no that doesn look normal
[21:58] <MrBushido> i'm having problems getting my network connection working in ubuntu 11.04 desktop. it's finding my wired network card and assigning it an ip6 address but for some reason it's not getting allocated an ip4 via my router. when i set a static ip it accepts it, but for some reason i can't ping other machines on my network. there's definitely no hardware issues though, since it's working fine when
[21:58] <MrBushido> i boot win7. any advice to track down the cause of my problem?
[21:58] <alexb_1> guntbert, obviously I'm looking for linux friendly. I'm not sure if it requires any drivers...
[21:58] <rabc> whats the easiest way to reformat a hard drive using linux link or wiki pls thx
[21:59] <DrShoggoth> what is linux link?
[21:59] <DrShoggoth> and wiki?
[21:59] <faz_> when adding a custom application launcher to a panel, how can i make it so the command works with sudo? i thought ubuntu used to bring up a password prompt when you did this
[21:59] <chaddy> link to, DrShoggoth
[21:59] <jrib> faz_: use gksudo
[21:59] <shorttech> coz_thank you. Im looking as well, but its driving me crazy!
[22:00] <rns> are there any external monitors that won't work with ubuntu?
[22:00] <eFfeM> hi, I'm using 11.04/64bit with gnome2 gui; but can't get any icons on my desktop although the .desktop file is in my $HOME/Desktop/ dir
[22:00] <abc123xyz_> faz_: try setting the shortcut as gksudo programname
[22:00] <shorttech> DrShoggoth I feel bad for you.... you got lots of reading to do
[22:00] <rns> I need one for my dell xps running ubutnu
[22:00] <faz_> abc123xyz_, thank you
[22:00] <vatts> rns, as long as ubuntu supports XPS's gfx card, you should be OK
[22:00] <guntbert> alexb_1: please keep in mind that *this* channel is strictly for ubuntu support, there are #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux though
[22:00] <admgy22> hi guys, I'd like an opinion please.  Earlier you helped me get the last admin's (user's) bash history, and I'd like an opinion of what little of it there is.  It's here: http://pastebin.com/W4QWyZaR
[22:00] <admgy22> (apparently after clearing the history)
[22:00] <DeltaEpsilon> I have 6GB ram istalled. If I install a 32bit ubutu, how many GB will I get to use?
[22:00] <coz_> shorttech,  which version of ubuntu is this?
[22:01] <admgy22> does it look malicious to you
[22:01] <admgy22> removing these logs?
[22:01] <vatts> rns, i'd say "go and try it out"
[22:01] <vatts> DeltaEpsilon, 3.002 or such
[22:01] <rns> vatts, so if it works with my laptop, plugging in an external monitor shouldn't make any difference?
[22:01] <admgy22> or a normal thing for a user to do right before handing off a live server
[22:01] <vatts> rns, kind of :)
[22:01] <DrShoggoth> shorttech, what reading should I be doing?
[22:01] <abc123xyz_> DeltaEpsilon: probably won't see all of it, go with 64bit
[22:01] <admgy22> (to a guy he's not giving any help at all to, after leaving hte ocmpany on bad terms)
[22:01] <rns> vatts, I'm going to order online, so can't really try it out
[22:01] <admgy22> robi would be the replacement :)
[22:01] <vatts> rns, you're on laptop now?
[22:01] <rns> vatts, YES
[22:01] <rns> sorry caps
[22:01] <DeltaEpsilon> abc123xyz_,  flash doesn't work right on 64bit
[22:02] <nerdy_kid> how do I adjust the settings for _only_ my usb mouse?  (not my touchpad)
[22:02] <coz_> shorttech,  I am finding "nothing" on this particular issue
[22:02] <kitche2> DeltaEpsilon why not there is a 64bit build for it?
[22:02] <vatts> ok rns, if you have any friends with LCDs monitor ask 'em if you can try it out.
[22:02] <vatts> its a beginning, but it can get you there.
[22:02] <abc123xyz_> DeltaEpsilon: it works fine under Debian not sure about Ubuntu, should work
[22:02] <coz_> shorttech,  since I am falling short of an answer,, try ##linux channel ,, see if they have a suggestion/solution,, if you get it let me know
[22:02] <DeltaEpsilon> kitche2, the build is very buggy
[22:02] <abc123xyz_> DeltaEpsilon: but only 4 GB is supported including the swap
[22:02] <rns> vatts, so there aren't any known monitors that do not work?
[22:03] <litropy> !computers
[22:03] <vatts> rns, dont really know, IMO its all about the gfx card - the resolution shouldn't be problem.
[22:03] <kitche2> DeltaEpsilon if you say so I fine no issues with it at all it used to buggy long time ago
[22:03] <rns> vatts, okay thanks
[22:03] <vatts> i have radeon x700se on this box and it ran 2x 17" (LCD + CRT) without problem
[22:03] <vatts> same resolution tho
[22:03] <vatts> you might wanna find one which has same resolution as your laptop or aspect ratio
[22:04] <vatts> could help ;)
[22:05] <RA_drc> !search factoids
[22:05] <coz_> rns,    in terminal  type this command    glxinfo -l |grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE    paste the number it has in the readout
[22:05] <teal> shorttech  I thought you were given instructions on nividia previously   is this your answer?    <io> !xorg | mikeshultz shorttech
 mikeshultz shorttech: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolutio        sorry I have no experience with nividia
[22:07] <raultc> jar
[22:07] <Flecks> how big should grub bios boot partition be?
[22:07] <Eitan> any recommended load balancing packages for ubuntu? i read ultra monkey is pretty good, but its tested with debian... i'd rather stick with ubuntu
[22:08] <MajinSaiyan> My neighbor has a huge problem with his iphone 3g. I swear it's not stolen! The phone is disabled and says to connect to itunes, so itunes says that i need to enter the passcode before it can synch. However i can't enter the code because it doesn't give me the option. Is there a way to browse through the phone to extract certain files? I don't mind restoring it, but i want a few files before doing the restore.
[22:08] <MajinSaiyan> I am running Natty btw. Natty says that i need to enter the passcode on the device before i can mount it.
[22:08] <coz_> Eitan,   you want this for 2 or more servers ...yes?
[22:09] <genii-around> MajinSaiyan: Please do not post the same question in multiple channels
[22:09] <coz_> Eitan,    http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/load-balancer-open-source-software.html
[22:09] <rns> coz_, 8192
[22:09] <MajinSaiyan> k i'm sorry
[22:09] <nerdy_kid> how do I adjust the settings for _only_ my usb mouse?  (not my touchpad)
[22:09] <admin666> прива
[22:10] <vatts> !ubuntu-ru
[22:10] <vatts> or how already
[22:10] <vatts> admin666, #ubuntu-ru
[22:10] <admin666> russian
[22:10] <vatts> mhm
[22:10] <vatts> or you're not? ;)
[22:10] <coz_> rns,  ok now,, that number  , 8192, is your video card's hardware limitation for resolution,, in other words, singe or dual monitors combined CANNOT  excede that resolution either horizontally for vertically,,  if i understood some of your issue
[22:10] <admin666> hello
[22:12] <coz_> rns,  and that number is especially important when running dual monitors
[22:12] <Eitan> coz: yup just need it for 2 windows HTTTP servers.. jsut wanna heartbeat monitor them pretty much
[22:12] <rns> coz_, 8192 is pretty big right?
[22:12] <Eitan> dont nessesarly need load balancing, just need more fail over
[22:12] <Eitan> but lb will work
[22:12] <admgy22> I'm a sudoer, how can I kick a guy off
[22:12] <coz_> rns,  it is about medium considering  some of the newer cards ,,yes
[22:12] <chaddy> admgy22: slay
[22:12] <ninjah> I'm trying to backup a cisco config to my proftpd server. It doesn't work. The directory shows up as ftp://myserver.com/router-config. Any suggestions?
[22:13] <Eitan> coz: that looks great... im gonna go with that
[22:13] <Eitan> thank you!
[22:14] <coz_> rns,  for example.. on this system  the max texuture size is only 4096  however I run dual monitors with combined resolution of 2560x1024  which is well withing that limit
[22:14] <Eitan> just ultra monkey is a debian for debian... wanted a ubuntu package
[22:14] <rns> coz_, so at 1024x768 I could have roughly 6 monitors?
[22:14] <Eitan> or will that work the same?
[22:14] <coz_> rns,  if the "combined"  resolutions  do not excede the max texture size
[22:14] <coz_> rns,  that is total of all monitors horizontally and combined resolution vertically
[22:15] <coz_> rns,  take vert and horiz  as seaparte  combinations
[22:15] <coz_> rns,  example if you have 5 monitors ,, horizonatl conbined  does not exceed your max texture size then it is possible
[22:16] <coz_> rns,  sam applies to the vertical resolution
[22:17] <nerdy_kid> how do I adjust the settings for _only_ my usb mouse?  (not my touchpad)
[22:17] <coz_> rns,  of course 4 to 6 monitors is going to require 2  and 3 video cards repectively
[22:18] <thevaliantx> what else should i look at to determine why X11 forwarding is not working for me?  i have "
[22:18] <rns> coz_, cool, thanks this is helpful
[22:18] <rns> coz_, so any monitor that fits within that limit should work?
[22:18] <thevaliantx> i have "ForwardX11 yes" set in the /etc/ssh/ssh_config file
[22:18] <coz_> rns,   yep
[22:19] <RA_drc> !lies
[22:19] <Guest67030> Hi all! how can i change "stdT201106222045&LANG" to "/2011/06/22/std_2045" via Terminal??
[22:19] <ZykoticK9_> thevaliantx, if you had to make that change, did you restart the ssh server afterwards?
[22:19] <coz_> rns,  keep that command handy,, if you change cards or new system,, you will want to know the max texture size of the video card
[22:19] <jrib> Guest67030: why?
[22:19] <thevaliantx> ZykoticK9_: i didn't know to do that.  the host machine is my wife's.
[22:19] <Guest67030> jrib, ?
[22:19] <whyz> hey. i want to upgrade a 9.04 machine to something never. however, do-release-upgrade does not support upgrading from such an old version. is there any way to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 and so on?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> !eol
[22:20] <Guest67030> jrib, because i need to do so?
[22:20] <ZykoticK9_> thevaliantx, i just mean the ssh service not the machine
[22:20] <jrib> Guest67030: what is the context for this question... Are you trying to rename files?  Substitute multiple instances in a file?  In multiple files? etc.
[22:20] <demonspork> Whyz, you can go all the way up, I just moved from a 9.10 machine that I hadn't touched in over a year to an 11.04 in the matter of an hour
[22:20] <Guest67030> jrib, oh.. no its a string i wanted to use in a bash skript
[22:20] <thevaliantx> ZykoticK9_: you were clear the first time :)  i didn't know that i needed to restart the ssh server
[22:20] <whyz> demonspork, how? do-release-upgrade refuses for me
[22:21] <jqp> where can i find out what errors mean?  for example, i'm getting the error "urlopen error [Errno 113] No route to host" from a python library.  that python library gets its error messages from the platform (ubuntu)
[22:21] <jrib> Guest67030: I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish
[22:21] <Guest67030> jrib, wget gives out "stdT201106222045&LANG".. in order to process it i need it to be "/2011/06/22/std_2045"
[22:21] <demonspork> Whyz, just use update manager is what I do and it let me update all the way
[22:21] <demonspork> one stage at a time though
[22:21] <jrib> Guest67030: use awk, sed, or cut
[22:21] <demonspork> LTS releases can jump though
[22:21] <whyz> demonspork, the desktop update manager?
[22:21] <coz_> whyz,  are you using sudo with that?
[22:21] <jrib> Guest67030: ask #bash, they might give you better hinst
[22:22] <vatts> rns, yeah i forgot to tell that mine videocard was doing duplicates on LCD and CRTs *facepalm* :D
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> whyz: or grab the alternate ISO for each subsequent release, you can use them to upgrade with
[22:22] <Guest67030> jrib, k thx
[22:22] <demonspork> I am trying to access a windows file share without accessing it as guest. I have access to edit the fileshare if only it would let me sign in, but nautilus keeps mounting it as guest so I don't have a chance to get write permissions
[22:22] <jrib> Guest67030: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/string-manipulation.html might help too (see substring extraction)
[22:22] <donkeyinspace> hello , is it possible to create a fat16 boot partition for only one ubuntu installation?
[22:23] <demonspork> How do I supply the username and password I need to supply to mount it
[22:23] <jacobfogg> Hey there, anyone know of a decent usb vga adapter with linux support... I need a third monitor...
[22:24] <abc123xyz_> demonspork: you can edit /etc/fstab to mount on startup with all the permissions you want
[22:24] <coz_> jacobfogg,  I do not,, unless you have another video card,,, I havent gotten into more than 2 monitors although Ihave seen as many as 24 connected
[22:24] <jacobfogg> Yeah, that would be my first option, however my mobo only has pcie x1 slots left...
[22:24] <whyz> ActionParsnip, hm. i'll try
[22:25] <demonspork> abc123xyz_, How do I supply the username and password to the network server to mount it with the proper user account?  This is a share from a different computer that I am trying to access without it mounting as guest.
[22:25] <whyz> just to make sure, your solution should apply to ubuntu server too, right?
[22:25] <jacobfogg> coz_ ^^
[22:25] <icode> Hi all
[22:25] <icode> who like ubuntu 11.04?
[22:26] <coz_> jacobfogg,  yeah , again,, I dont have any experience beyond dual monitors ,, sorry guy
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> icode: s'alright
[22:26] <icode> i dont think so!
[22:26] <jacobfogg> icode -> that's what i'm on...
[22:26] <ZykoticK9_> jacobfogg, you may be interested in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB2VGA
[22:26] <tanuki_> I'm trying to install a LAMP stack, and Apache refuses to run PHP.
[22:26] <thevaliantx> ZykoticK9_: restarting the ssh service doesn't seem to help.  i still can't even run "xcalc" without getting the error message "Error: Can't open display:"
[22:26] <jacobfogg> coz_ well thakns anyway... =)
[22:26] <jrib> !lamp | tanuki_
[22:26] <tanuki_> I've followed the instructions in the wiki to the letter
[22:26] <jacobfogg> ZykoticK9_ reading... thx
[22:27] <jrib> tanuki_: read the section that troubleshoots that exact issue
[22:27] <coz_> jacobfogg,  is t his nvidia ?
[22:27] <ZykoticK9_> thevaliantx, are you connecting with "ssh -X HOSTNAME"?
[22:27] <tanuki_> jrib: As I said, I've followed the instructions to the letter.
[22:27] <icode> i can help you tanuki_
[22:27] <jacobfogg> coz_: My current card? yeah
[22:27] <ZykoticK9_> thevaliantx, is this a linux client?
[22:27] <jrib> tanuki_: then you can't run php I guess...
[22:27] <HellSt0rm> Hi can somebody help me with at troublesome external monitor. Recently i plugged in my external monitor with vga cable. In the monitor application I made the display on the laptop turn off and use the external monitor as primary only.  but now if I start up the laptop with the external monitor. the screen is duplicate on gdm and startst switching over the other setup after login, but failes. if I take out the vga cable, the screen on the lap
[22:27] <HellSt0rm> flickers and tries to use only the laptop display. this however works under ubuntu classic and not ubuntu unity, under unity the screen stays blank. If I try to start the laptop without vga connected and connect the vga after login. the problem occur again. is there away to reset the behaviour for the screens?
[22:27] <icode> describe here the problem
[22:27] <coz_> jacobfogg,   you might want to try the #nvidia  channel,, see if they have any wisdom around this :)
[22:28] <blargg> I'm looking for a command-line tool similar to wget, that instead generates a list of URLs a web page links to.
[22:28] <jrib> tanuki_: what happens when you visit a php page now?
[22:28] <jacobfogg> ZykoticK9_: so there should support for any of these devices?! With some tweaking of course...
[22:28] <thevaliantx> ZykoticK9_: thanks, after restarting the service i logged back in via ssh and forgot the -X flag :)
[22:28] <tanuki_> jrib: It asks me to download the file.
[22:28] <InsolentDreams> blargg: you could always use curl and then regex to pull out all valid urls  ;)
[22:28] <ZykoticK9_> jacobfogg, i have NO idea - i'm surprised a usb2vga is even fast enough - I've certainly never used one.
[22:29] <jrib> tanuki_: pastebin output of: « apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-php5 »
[22:29] <tehB3NJ1E> Hey, does anyone here know a good Ubuntu 11.04 IRCd?
[22:29] <blargg> InsolentDreams, I was hoping there was something to handle the parsing (as well as converting the URLs to absolute ones) for me. Also to do it recursively, not just on a single web page.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> tehB3NJ1E: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/irc-server.html
[22:29] <jacobfogg> ZykoticK9_: the reviews aren't great for things like video, I just need it for my IRC/Email/Chat
[22:29] <jacobfogg> Get those apps off my current 2 monitors...
[22:30] <tanuki_> I've already installed the packages the wiki demands I install, cleared my cache, the whole nine yards
[22:30] <tanuki_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/630994/
[22:30] <tehB3NJ1E> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[22:30] <jrib> tanuki_: run « sudo a2enmod php5 » and pastebin the output
[22:31] <InsolentDreams> blargg: Well, wget sort-of does do that if you put it in mirror mode, but it downloads all the data, not just giving you the url.  I don't usually like playing devil's advocate and you might have a legitimate use for what you're asking for, but it sounds like a web-scraping script you're looking for basically.  Google something like "web scraping for urls" or something.  I'm sure someone has done this already in some programmin
[22:31] <InsolentDreams> language, like ruby or php
[22:31] <tanuki_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/630996/
[22:31] <tanuki_> As I said, I've already tried that.
[22:31] <jrib> tanuki_: run « sudo service apache2 restart »
[22:31] <tanuki_> Fizzbin.
[22:32] <blargg> InsolentDreams, wait, I think I found exactly what I want: w3mir. We'll see.
[22:32] <tanuki_> jrib: Already done so. Did it again, still wants me to download the source.
[22:32] <InsolentDreams> nice!
[22:32] <jrib> tanuki_: what is the url you are using to check?
[22:32] <tanuki_> http://localhost/~bgeiger/foo.php
[22:32] <tanuki_> Fizzbin, dammit.
[22:33] <RealKillaz> gents I bumped I think into an error with vmbuilder
[22:33] <tanuki_> And yes, I've already cleared my Firefox cache.
[22:33] <RealKillaz> Please check the following pastebin: http://pastebin.com/PBCGuQrq
[22:33] <tanuki_> Multiple times.
[22:33] <jrib> tanuki_: php probably isn't enabled for user directories by default.  To troubleshoot, try a php file in /var/www/
[22:34] <RealKillaz> Why is vmbuilder so buggy?
[22:34] <tanuki_> jrib: It works.
[22:34] <jrib> tanuki_: if you wish to enable php for user directories, do so :D
[22:34] <tanuki_> How?
[22:34] <tanuki_> The wiki didn't say anything about that.
[22:34] <Sik> Stupid question: what's the package for the OpenGL dev libraries?
[22:34] <jrib> tanuki_: read /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf
[22:37] <whyz> demonspork, there must be some fundamental difference between 9.04 and 9.10. update-manager does not support updating from 9.04
[22:38] <Logan_> Sik: Try the ones listed here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/859501/learning-opengl-in-ubuntu
[22:38] <Sik> OK, I just need to be able to build SDL with the OpenGL driver >_>
[22:38] <Jarvis> anyone know off hand if theres any changes in the kernel packages that would cause my system to want to force install grub-pc
[22:38] <Jarvis> i'm having to manually select upgrades atm :/
[22:39] <RealKillaz> so noone is using vmbuilder for obvious reason....
[22:41] <RA_drc> !ubotu
[22:41] <RA_drc> !botabuse
[22:44] <icode> how to add modules to ebox?
[22:44] <tanath> can anyone help me with a strange connection issue?
[22:45] <tanath> when i ping the router, i get one reply from router, and then i start getting replies of dest unreachable from my own LAN ip
[22:45] <icode> tanath: that's strange!
[22:45] <icode> possible firewall?
[22:46] <tanath> icode, indeed
[22:46] <htrejh> hi, i use kubuntu (latest) on a qosmio x500 portable, and since this version my pc can't resume correctly, it shows corrupted graphics and doesn't respond, it uses to work though
[22:46] <htrejh> how can i debug that?
[22:46] <tanath> icode, just gufw with denied incoming
[22:46] <tanath> icode, which just manages iptables
[22:47] <dr_willis> htrejh,  whats the video chipset? most likely an issue in that area.
[22:47] <icode> flush the entire configuration of you firewall
[22:47] <icode> and test pinging after
[22:47] <icode> let me now the result
[22:48] <htrejh> dr_willis: i use the official proprietary nvidia (it's a gts400M chip)
[22:48] <tanath> icode, fixed... i think i know what happened... i'm on a laptop and switched networks which somehow confused it
[22:48] <htrejh> dr_willis: also nouveau shows corrupted graphics when i wanted to install it, i had to use nomodeset and install nvidia ASAP
[22:49] <LinuxGuy2009> I heard that unity is the default desktop environment now, but I was wondering if the netbook interface is still in the repositories, and will stay there so those of us who like it, we can still use it?
[22:49] <lolmatic> i think my usb harddrive just crashed. which logs do notice such things?
[22:49] <AxPoLe> [][-e-][]
[22:49] <icode> tanath : good!
[22:50] <dr_willis> htrejh,  ive never had nouveau work  on my Toshiba X505 with nvidia
[22:50] <rcconf> !firefox
[22:50] <tanath> icode, thanks. i'm rather tired and not thinking well :P
[22:50] <dr_willis> htrejh,  i have to install ubuntu the same way
[22:50] <htrejh> dr_willis: do you have that resuming bug too?
[22:50] <icode> tanath : loool
[22:50] <HellSt0rm> is there away to reset how ubuntu (11.04) responds to when I plug in a vga cable for external monitor. the current config does not work and i need to reset to default behaviour :D
[22:51] <dr_willis> htrejh,  i never use hibernate/suspend. it boots so fast i dont bother.
[22:51] <htrejh> dr_willis: well i mean resume, if you close your screen and reopen it, does it work for you?
[22:51] <icode> hrllstrom: try connecting the cable while the laptop is rebooting
[22:51] <dr_willis> htrejh,  i dont recall ever seeing that issue. theres setitngs i recall to controll what closing the lid does. the laptops not here right now - so i cant check
[22:52] <htrejh> dr_willis: ok, but when the cable is plugged in it works, very weird
[22:52] <htrejh> how can i debug that?
[22:52] <HellSt0rm> icode: I tried, boots up perfectly but display still f***** when login is completed
[22:53] <dr_willis> htrejh,  if its a nvidia driver issue. that can be hard to troubleshoot. You may want toc heck the forums and askubuntu.com for others with your exact make laptop
[22:53] <icode> try logging the option 2 when the grub is displaying
[22:53] <htrejh> dr_willis: well i did that, i think i should file a bug in launchpad then
[22:53] <dr_willis> HellSt0rm,  individual users can have theor own video settings. I forget qwhat file controlls it.  does a newly made user work?
[22:54] <icode> and then reset to the default setting
[22:54] <dr_willis> htrejh,  search for bugs first. :)
[22:54] <htrejh> dr_willis: i did too ;)
[22:54] <HellSt0rm> icode: will try
[22:54] <abstrakt> anyone know how I could load a SQL Server database on Ubuntu?
[22:54] <htrejh> searched for "qosmio"...
[22:54] <nerdy_kid> how do I adjust the settings for _only_ my usb mouse?  (not my touchpad)
[22:55] <icode> hellstrom: i will wait to see the result
[22:55] <HellSt0rm> dr_willis: will try to check if a newly made user has same trouble, but the controller file for the moniter would be nice
[22:55] <HellSt0rm> dr_willis: but first icode medthode
[22:56] <dr_willis> I just noticed the Monitors settings tool here had a 'make default'  that asked for the root password.. so i guess theres a way to set the default system wide.  but i bnet the user setting overrides it
[22:57] <arooni-mobile> i like control + c/v for copying and pasting to terminals but i forgot that i cant use control + c to cease execution for a program.  how do you folks handle this situation?
[22:57] <BoulderDave> After switching to mod_wsgi, I no longer get the interactive traceback on 500 errors.  I remember this being an issue a few years ago but forgot what I did to fix it
[22:58] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  im so used to ctrl-c to kill apps.. i never use ctrlc ever. :)
[22:58] <dr_willis> exceot to kill apps
[22:58] <icode> killall (pid)
[22:58] <je0rJey> killall -9 processname
[22:58] <BoulderDave> sorry wrong channel
[22:59] <CoverSlide> killall -9 init
[22:59] <je0rJey> yes
[23:00] <je0rJey> with permission that is.. sudo killall -9 init
[23:01] <dr_willis> The monitors config file seems to be in .config/monitors.xml
[23:02] <snikker> which program I can use to synchronize data between desktop and notebok? (and vice versa)
[23:03] <koppe> Have list of files and dirs, need to make archive.  Anyway to make tar accept file-list as argument, or make cpio add the content of dirs (files and subdirs)
[23:03] <arooni-mobile> using 11.04;  but it seems i cant add anything to the menubar.  how do add the countdown timer i had setup in 10.04?
[23:03] <koppe> without explicitly specify filenames?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> snikker: rsync
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> snikker: or something like dropbox :)
[23:05] <snikker> ActionParsnip: i don't want to pass throught internet :)
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> snikker: then rsync
[23:05] <snikker> ActionParsnip: ok
[23:06] <Jarvis> snikker: check out unison
[23:06] <snikker> ActionParsnip: but with rsync, i need to set up someting like nfs or ssh?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> snikker: install openssh-server and you can connect to that
[23:07] <snikker> ActionParsnip: Ok, good. thank you
[23:07] <Jarvis> unison is quite a nice gui for it
[23:07] <bfh198> Hey anyone know how to edit syntax for vi ? -- the file location and how to edit it ?
[23:07] <snikker> Jarvis: but unison work fine?
[23:07] <MarkSS_> How do I connect to Windows Vista computer from Ubuntu Linux?
[23:07] <Jarvis> unison works for me,  use it to sync my laptop (osx) to this machine (ubuntu)
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> MarkSS_: connect in what way?
[23:08] <icode> markss: try teamviewer
[23:08] <Jarvis> bfh198: /usr/share/vim/<vimver>/syntax
[23:08] <Jarvis> for me vimver is vim73
[23:08] <MarkSS_> I want to access a friend's computer 900 miles away to fix something on their computer. Download, install a program, change configs, and then run it
[23:08] <snikker> Jarvis: ok, thanks
[23:08] <Jarvis> as for the format of the file tho, i'm not sure
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> MarkSS_: then use rdesktop and you can remote desktop to the system
[23:08] <MarkSS_> Yes, but I have to figure out how to use it first haha
[23:09] <Jarvis> the existing files might give ya an idea tho
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> MarkSS_: you will need to open the RDP port on the router and enable remote logons
[23:09] <bfh198> cd vim73
[23:09] <bfh198> ls
[23:09] <bfh198> ops
[23:09] <icode> i prefer teamviewer than rdesktop
[23:09] <Jarvis> :p
[23:09] <icode> it as a nice gui
[23:10] <patyx7> Hi, anyone know how to set gdm login screen to load up on a particular monitor in a dual screen setup?
[23:10] <patyx7> Or a hint at where such a configuration would be?
[23:10] <MarkSS_> Enable RDP port on the routers at both ends AND enable remote logons on both comps?
[23:11] <HellSt0rm> icode:  no luck :/ reset graphic setting was a dud
[23:12] <icode> hellstrom : sorry!
[23:12] <MarkSS_> ActionParsnip: Enable RDP port on the routers at both ends AND enable remote logons on both comps?
[23:12] <HellSt0rm> icode: trying to make a new user like dr_willis said, if that works, i will just migrate my current user over to that one
[23:12] <icode> ya that's an idea!
[23:12] <koppe> With the new (non lst) set-up of grub... How (where!?!) can I add more boot-choices (FreeBSD and OpenSolaris)?
[23:13] <nerdy_kid> how do I increase my mouse's scroll speed?
[23:13] <icode> hellstrom : tell me if that works
[23:13] <icode> system ---> mouse
[23:13] <icode> preference
[23:14] <HellSt0rm> icode: I will, I will just set up a admin user just to have a dedicated admin user as a failsafe usermode
[23:14] <bfh198> Hey any1 know how to check my openGl version, and also how to update it ?
[23:14] <shentino> Is there *any* way to make X start on a vt other than tty7?
[23:14] <trism> patyx7: if you use System Settings/Monitors to configure your setup, usually what I do is copy the ~/.config/monitors.xml after I have configured it to /var/lib/gdm/.config/ (seems like there should be a better way)
[23:14] <shentino> I've tried kernel config, gdm.conf, inittab, everything
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> MarkSS_: ubuntu doesn't use RDP, it's a Windows thing
[23:15] <dr_willis> HellSt0rm,   The monitors config file seems to be in .config/monitors.xml
[23:15] <noyos> Ok, is there any difference in the graphical Softwares between Nvidias and Linuxmint 11 Preinstalled and reccomended?
[23:15] <HellSt0rm> dr_willis: thanks :)
[23:15] <dr_willis> noyos,  you mean the video drivers?
[23:15] <noyos> Yes
[23:15] <nerdy_kid> icode, no scroll options in there
[23:15] <Akkar1n> When i want to restart or shutdown via the gnome panel it always sends me back to the gdm. does anyone know how to fix that error?
[23:15] <dr_willis> noyos,  you proberly should ask the mint support channel. if the version #s are the same. i wouldemnt thin theres a differance
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> noyos: mint isn't supported here in any way
[23:15] <fortiss> I am setting up 60 linux boxes runnung ubuntu.
[23:15] <fortiss> damn it...
[23:16] <icode> pointer speed!
[23:16] <dr_willis> noyos,  noveou is the normal 'default' driver. for nvidia chipsets.. but it dosent work well for me
[23:16] <icode> it's there!
[23:16] <patyx7> trism, ah, I'm using xubuntu.
[23:16] <noyos> thanks, seems like its more serious help in here xD
[23:16] <dr_willis> noyos,  personally  - i dont see any real reason to use Mint.
[23:16] <slice092> i updated the ubuntu 11.04 kernel to the latest stable kernel but now i "hang" on the boot seqvens
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> noyos: then use ubuntu, not mint
[23:17] <noyos> Its that anoying Gnome 3 cant get it off..
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> noyos: none of the multitude of spinoffs are supported here
[23:17] <dr_willis> Gnome3 is a work in progress. :)
[23:17] <itu>  hi
[23:17] <fortiss> I'm seting up 60 linux boxes running ubuntu. They are basic internet kiosks running an internet app being developed for us. Is there a program that would allow me to remotely access them if their behind a firewall. There will be 10 of them at 6 different locations and i would like a basic "server" that i could use to log onto each of them. Kind of like LMI.
[23:17] <noyos> can u uninstall the gnome3 from the newest edition of Ubunto and get the old Gnome?
[23:17] <fortiss> ive looked at vnc and hamachi
[23:18] <blubb> yeah
[23:18] <don1804> forceflow, would you want gui?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> noyos: not without mst likely getting issues, reinstall will give a stable OS
[23:18] <trism> patyx7: I don't use xubuntu, so I don't know about that
[23:18] <dr_willis> noyos,  gnome3 can cause issues when installed to ubuntu at this time..
[23:18] <fortiss> if i setup hamachi on the server will i be able to see all the pcs cinnected to them?
[23:18] <itu> question: where the option  CD-self-test  at Ubuntu-11.04-CD  ?
[23:18] <dr_willis> fortiss,  I guess it depends on how and what you want to do with them. theres always good old ssh.
[23:18] <patyx7> trism, hmmm, the gdm .config file, what did you specify in there?
[23:18] <don1804> anyone ever had success with USB > DVI adapters on any version?
[23:18] <slice092> fortiss: its better to use a vns
[23:19] <slice092> *vnc
[23:19] <noyos> Thank you Guys Got the help i wanted:D Cya :D
[23:19] <dr_willis> don1804,  i recall one brand that was supposed to be supported in ubuntu. but never tried one.
[23:19] <pyry> np
[23:19] <dr_willis> don1804,  i may be thinking of those little usb->mini0monitor also...
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> noyos: ask in the mint channel in future
[23:19] <fortiss> does vnc have an "enterprise" how will i be able to access a specific device behind the firewall?
[23:20] <noyos> Will do sorry:/
[23:20] <fortiss> it would need to work like logmein
[23:20] <slice092> i updated the ubuntu 11.04 kernel to the latest stable kernel but now i "hang" on the boot seqvens,
[23:20] <dr_willis> fortiss,  for vnc access iover the internet. you will want to setup a ssh tunnle to each box
[23:20] <slice092> somebody know what to do?
[23:21] <fortiss> ok figured. Would hamachi be a good tool for that you think?
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> slice092: do you get the boot screen?
[23:21] <slice092> no
[23:21] <dr_willis> fortiss,  you really need access to the current local desktop? or just a desktop? or what exactly?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> slice092: then I'd look into reinstating that in livecd
[23:22] <MustardCU> when i use apt-get source where does the source extract?
[23:22] <fortiss> i need to be able to access any one of the 60 boxes im putting together
[23:22] <fortiss> 10 at 6 different locations
[23:23] <fortiss> jolicloud seemd like a good way to go but cant troubleshoot the os remotely with their setup. Just syncs apps and docs.
[23:24] <dr_willis> Jolicloud is weird in so many ways.. and i doubt if its what you want to use.
[23:24] <trism> patyx7: monitors.xml, and it is just basic information about the displays and which one is primary. I could pastebin mine if you want, but I don't know that it would help that much
[23:24] <dr_willis> fortiss,  and why cant you just use ssh?    the term 'access any one of them' is quiet broad.
[23:25] <fortiss> yeah ive decided to just use ubuntu 11.04
[23:25] <patyx7> trism, please do, might help greatly :)
[23:25] <abstrakt> fortiss, i second dr_willis, what's wrong with ssh?
[23:25] <Sovek> Hey Everyone, slight issue. I'm wanting to try another distro based off of natty, and the USB disk creator sees the ISO, and made a boot drive, but when I tried to boot, nothing, says something about not being a boot disk or something
[23:25] <abstrakt> fortiss, VPN can help with that as well
[23:26] <fortiss> I was thinking of hamachi incase the ip changed
[23:26] <fortiss> i didnt want to have to change the ip settings on 10 devices if the ip changed
[23:26] <dr_willis> Sovek,  theres been some bugs with the usb-disk creator tool goofing up the sysconfig menus. You may want to try one of the tools from pendrivelinux web site.
[23:26] <trism> patyx7:
[23:26] <don1804> fortiss, do you need to be able to see whats being done on them, or just monitor them? either way as abstrakt says you can just join them to a VPN - or have one box at each location on VPN
[23:26] <Sovek> right
[23:26] <Sovek> figures, would be my luck :/
[23:26] <abstrakt> fortiss, in case which ip changed
[23:26] <trism> patyx7: sorry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/631007/
[23:26] <dr_willis> fortiss,  thats one thing 'dyndns' is good for.. but if they are all behind a router, and have changeing ip's that may make things much harder.
[23:26] <HellSt0rm> dr_willis: it worked, copied the monitors.xml  from the new user too the original user was a success
[23:26] <patyx7> cheers
[23:27] <patyx7> cheers, trism :)
[23:27] <HellSt0rm> icode: it worked
[23:27] <HellSt0rm> :)
[23:27] <abstrakt> fortiss, i would hope, that if you have the money for 60 boxes and someone to put it together, that you would have money for proper networking etc
[23:27] <abstrakt> fortiss, get yourself a static ip, use a sane router
[23:27] <icode> goooooooooood!
[23:28] <dr_willis> set up the router and ssh correctly. and you can ssh to the routers ip with a proper port # and have it fo4rwared to the proper machine
[23:28] <abstrakt> anyone know of an ftp client on ubuntu that will use pubkey auth?
[23:28] <abstrakt> filezilla does SFTP but only with password
[23:28] <slice092> need to know howto get verbose boot in ubuntu 11.04
[23:28] <Sovek> thank you dr_willis
[23:29] <Guest52844> I'm experiencing a rather bizarre issue with 11.04 where if I set thunderbird to the preferred email client, it corrupts my "Launch Web Browser" hotkey so that it tries browsing to a big random number... I tried looking at existing bugs, I don't see it, is this known?
[23:29] <dr_willis> slice092,  replace the 'quiet splash' option with 'noquiet nosplash text'    and/or try appending 'verbose' after text..  is one way I think
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> slice092: when plymouth loads, press ESC
[23:30] <slice092> ok thank you ActionParsnip
[23:30] <dr_willis> I think the option was 'verbose'..  it gave a lot of output when i tried it ages ago
[23:31] <draioch> im trying to do a clean reinstall lubuntu after password issues with xubuntu, is there any easy way to reformat the hard drive not using terminal - eg. bootcd or something
[23:31] <sudokill> yes
[23:31] <sudokill> use livecd with gparted or something like partedmagic
[23:31]  * tommylommykins waves
[23:31] <dr_willis> draioch,  sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdXX   is not too hard.
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> draioch: setting up the partitions is part of the installer
[23:31] <dr_willis> actually the installer should reformat..
[23:31] <tommylommykins> my disks don't seem to be gettign assigned consistent device names on boot
[23:31] <sudokill> partedmagic is alwas a good disc to have around
[23:31] <Sovek> draioch, live CD should reformat and let you partition no problem
[23:31] <tommylommykins> This makes mounting stuff all messed up
[23:32] <tommylommykins> What can I do?
[23:32] <dr_willis> tommylommykins,  mount using the label, or uuid method to define what to mount where
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> tommylommykins: use UUIDs
[23:32] <sudokill> tommylommykins, i htink if u add themto fstab with uid
[23:32] <tommylommykins> ok
[23:32] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys
[23:32] <Sovek> draioch, I've had to do that countless times when 11.04 came out
[23:32] <tommylommykins> just replace /dev/blah with the uuid?
[23:32] <SolarBoom> guys i have installed ubuntu 11.04 but gnom3 not working
[23:32] <frostschutz> tommylommykins: see also blkid or /dev/disk/*
[23:32] <SolarBoom> what's the problem?
[23:32] <draioch> thanks sudokill dr_willis sovek
[23:32] <ChrisBuchholz> I am trying to use a Steelseries XAI Laser Mouse with ubuntu 11.04 but it doesnt work. Any ideas?
[23:32] <dr_willis> !gnome3
[23:33] <sudokill> SolarBoom, 11.04 doesnt have gnome 3 by default
[23:33] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  what dosent work about it?
[23:33] <Sovek> SolarBoom, gnom3 isn't suported, doesn't work too well either
[23:33] <Guest52844> is there a shortcut key logfile or some such I can look at to get more info on what's going on?
[23:33] <sudokill> ChrisBuchholz, what happens? do u use a usb keyboard?
[23:33] <SolarBoom> sudokill: how to install it?
[23:33] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: anything. The cursor doesnt move - clicks is not reacted to
[23:33] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  does the light come on?
[23:33] <sudokill> SolarBoom, install what?
[23:33] <Sovek> SolarBoom, re-install and this time, to get gnome, when you log in, select ubuntu classic instead of ubuntu
[23:33] <ChrisBuchholz> sudokill: no usb keyboard, no
[23:33] <phrostbite> Whats the difference between the chome and chromium browser?
[23:33] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: the light in the mouse? yes
[23:34] <SolarBoom> sudokill: gnome3
[23:34] <sudokill> phrostbite, chromium has no extras built in
[23:34] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  check the outoput of 'dmesg' as you plugin/remove/plugin the mouse perhaps.
[23:34] <phrostbite> ok
[23:34] <sudokill> SolarBoom, I think u need to add a ppa
[23:34] <SolarBoom> i have added
[23:34] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  i had some odd quirk where i had to unplug/plug in the mouse after booted up.  but that eventually got fixed
[23:34] <Sovek> SolarBoom, Forum friend of mine tried to do that himself, it broke his install too
[23:34] <Guest52844> I don't know whether it's an ubuntu bug or a thunderbird bug, so, if I could find more info perhaps I'd better know which community to chase :)
[23:34] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: i see. Wil ltry
[23:34] <sudokill> SolarBoom, tbh i think gnome 3 on ubuntu is dodgy at times
[23:35] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: its in dmesg, but its not working
[23:35] <dr_willis> 'Gnome 3' is dodgy :)
[23:35] <Sovek> Guest52844, Submit a bug report anyway
[23:35] <sudokill> SolarBoom, ur better off using classic like similar to gnome 2, or using some distro like arch to natively put gnome 3 on
[23:35] <SolarBoom> sudokill: u mean it's not recommended?
[23:35] <sudokill> i used to use gnome 3 its ok
[23:35] <tjiggi_fo> !gnome3 | SolarBoom sudokill
[23:35] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  interesting. got a spare usb mouse to test with?
[23:35] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: yes, i use a cheap agk right now
[23:36] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: unplugging/plugging the steelseries mouse doesnt work either
[23:36] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: but it is seen in dmesg
[23:36] <Sovek> SolarBoom, If your dead set on getting gnome3, make a seperate partition and work off of that one
[23:36] <Stavros> I tried to upgrade my system but there wasn't enough space to write the new kernel in the /boot partition, so now the installer has stopped mid-way. how can i resume it?
[23:36] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  could be its not seeing the mouse as a mouse...    plug it in and try 'sudo cat /dev/input/mice' and move the mouse.. see if it prints out characters. (ctrl-c to exit that test)
[23:36] <Sovek> 2 10GB partitions work well for this purpose, with the rest as home
[23:36] <sudokill> ChrisBuchholz, do u have front usb ports? if so try those. i had problems with my usb key and mouse, only 1 worked at a time still dont know why but plugging into front port worked
[23:37] <sudokill> not a power issue either
[23:37] <sudokill> worth  a try...
[23:37] <dr_willis> sudokill,   Only thing ivve seen that qwould cause that would be pulling too much power. :)   Moar Powar!
[23:37] <sudokill> :)
[23:37] <dr_willis> seems some usb porta/controlers/cards are skimping on the power these days
[23:38] <sudokill> nah its a linux problem
[23:38] <sudokill> dont do it on windows
[23:38] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: well , if i move, nothing happpens, but if i click, new lines appear but still no text.
[23:38] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  thats an interesting result..
[23:38] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: if i right click, that is. leftclick nothing
[23:38] <sudokill> ChrisBuchholz, did u say u tried another mouse? sounds faulty
[23:39] <sudokill> im probably wrong
[23:39] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  see if theres a  /dev/input/mouse0 or mouse1 or any other #'s
[23:39] <ChrisBuchholz> sudokill: yes, another mice works fine
[23:39] <sudokill> ChrisBuchholz, have u checked xorg.conf see if it looks ok for the mouse
[23:39] <dr_willis>   /dev/input/mice is like 'all' found mouses :)  each mouse also has its own /dev/input/mouse#
[23:39] <sudokill> not that it should be wrong....
[23:40] <dr_willis> xiorg.conf normally uses /dev/input/mice
[23:40] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: same result with /dev/input/mouse0
[23:40] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  so there is a /dev/input/mouse1  then also?
[23:40] <sudokill> sounds weird that it sort of half works
[23:40] <ChrisBuchholz> sudokill: will do
[23:40] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: nope
[23:41] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  plug in both mice.. test with both mouses, and the cat test on mouse1 mouse0 and mice
[23:41] <fortiss> yeah, we have static ip at all locations. There have been situations where we have had to change ips though. I can setup the vpn in our asa no problem. Ill just use that.
[23:41] <fortiss> thats for the advice guys
[23:41] <dr_willis> BRB.
[23:42] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: okay
[23:42] <ChrisBuchholz> sudokill: no nvidia config for xorg.conf :D
[23:42] <Stavros> I tried to upgrade my system but there wasn't enough space to write the new kernel in the /boot partition, so now the installer has stopped mid-way. how can i resume it?
[23:42] <PlasmaSheep> Where is the kernel located? I need the path for dual booting with arch.
[23:43] <sudokill> boot
[23:43] <Sovek> Hey guys, I do have a question. Could drivers cause issues in loss performance on the CPU/GPU side?
[23:43] <PlasmaSheep> sudokill: thank you
[23:44] <sudokill> nvidia drivers r the fastest for nvidia
[23:44] <sudokill> lol
[23:44] <Sovek> not helpful
[23:44] <sudokill> i dont understand the question
[23:44] <sudokill> nvidia > nouveau
[23:44] <sudokill> etc
[23:44] <Sovek> I'm running an Atom with on-chip graphics, DOSBox and GenS are rather laggy and slow
[23:45] <sudokill> ah idk anything baout on chp gpu
[23:45] <Sovek> I've run GenS on thing slower than this no problem, though that was windows.... but still
[23:45] <sudokill> maybe thats why its laggy and slow?
[23:45] <ZykoticK9_> sudokill, I'd personally say that "freedom > non-free" thus your statement may not be accurate (for all of us) ;)
[23:45] <Firefishe> I'm experimenting with running Natty in vitualbox. So far, it's just like native, with a small bit of lag, but it's trivial. My question is: Can I, somehow, run all my OS's on my computer as Type I Hypervisors, and, if so, how is this accomplished?
[23:45] <sudokill> ZykoticK9_, i agree too, but nvidia proprietary too hard to resist :p
[23:46] <sudokill> one day nouveau may catch up
[23:46] <dr_willis> Sovek,  theres a lot of differnt settings for those emulators that can  give speed boost/slowdowns also.
[23:46] <Sovek> dr_willis, I've tried alot of settings under GenS but nothing to improve performance
[23:46] <dr_willis> sudokill,  id be happy if it wouild just work good enough for me to use the live cd to install on my nvidia machines...
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Sovek: tried a different display output in gens?
[23:46] <fortiss> another question... These devices will be in areas where people can brush up against them and ive been looking for some type of slide to unlock feature for them. I'm able to get the lock screen function with a keyboard working fine but i need the screen to lock after say... 10 secs. and i would like it to be easier than entering a password on an onscreen kb to unlock the screen. A simple slide
[23:46] <fortiss> to unlock sounds perfect but i cant find one... Any ideas?
[23:46] <Sovek> ActionParsnip, Yes, quite a few
[23:46] <dr_willis> sudokill,  its annoying having to use nomodeset all the time. :)
[23:47] <sudokill> dr_willis, what r u talking about, nouveau?
[23:47] <ZykoticK9_> Sovek, i personally found GensGS to be better then just Gens
[23:47] <sudokill> or nvidia
[23:47] <Sovek> I AM using GensGS
[23:47] <sudokill> what is GensGS a genesis emulator?
[23:47] <dr_willis> sudokill,  Defaut Noveau is rather... dissapointing on  me under ubuntu.. i did notice on the Fedora live cd i tested the other day - it worked a lot better.
[23:47] <Sovek> for some reason it is rather laggy on an Atom CPU
[23:48] <ZykoticK9_> sudokill, yes and SegaCD, Sega32x
[23:48] <Sovek> anyway, BRB, going to see if I can't get Linux Mint to boot
[23:48] <sudokill> dr_willis, the only thing i like about nouveau is the full res console with no extra messing about
[23:48] <dr_willis> sudokill,  i often cant even get to the consold on my 3 nvidia machines when using Nouveau
[23:48] <sudokill> should be able to...
[23:48] <dr_willis> just solid purple...
[23:48] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: i saw output on mouse1 for the other mouse.
[23:49] <sudokill> try manually compiling kernel and going through graphics options
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Sovek: how did you install it?
[23:49] <dr_willis> unless its totally 'garbled' output.
[23:49] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: im not trying with identifier=mice in xorg.conf instead of mouse0
[23:49] <dr_willis> sudokill,  i think i will pass on kernel compiling for noveu :)
[23:49] <ChrisBuchholz> now*
[23:49] <dr_willis> ChrisBuchholz,  yea the xorg.conf should be using mice instead of a specific mouse.. but for the most part Xorg.conf should be blank and auto configures.
[23:50] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: yeah. Perhabs i should try with nouveau if this doesnt work with nvidia. Perhaps nouveau will work
[23:50] <Taroven> Anyone able to help with a fairly complex install? I've got an older computer without a working CD/DVD drive, currently running Crunchbang Statler (don't ask how I installed it in the first place...), trying to install from a Natty alternate ISO located on the hard drive.
[23:50] <dr_willis> the video driver is not really going to be affecting the mouse.
[23:50] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: hmm i see.
[23:50] <dr_willis> my nvidia xorg.conf dosent even mention the mouse. It just has a line to disable the nvidia splash logo
[23:51] <sudokill> Taroven, what about usb
[23:51] <ChrisBuchholz> dr_willis: right :P
[23:51] <Taroven> sudokill: Old computer, unable to boot from USB
[23:51] <dr_willis> and i actually normally want to see that logo.. so i can be sure my nvidia drivers are working properly :)
[23:51] <yagoo> Taroven, does your bios support usb-boot ?
[23:51] <Taroven> No, yagoo.
[23:52] <sudokill> Taroven, otherwise i dont think u can unless u do one of those installs from windows
[23:52] <yagoo> Taroven, if your bios can't usb-boot. Then you need to replace ur cd-drive.
[23:52] <sudokill> Taroven, or if ur really desperate and cant get another cd drive u could install gentoo from ur current distro...
[23:52] <ZykoticK9_> Taroven, if you currently have Grub installed on the system, it is possible to boot ISO images (don't ask me how, no idea)
[23:53] <yagoo> Taroven, can u still boot to any OS on the harddrive?
[23:53] <Taroven> ZykoticK9_: That's the plan. Problem is adding the custom menu entry to do so.
[23:53] <Taroven> Grub2 works fine, but for some reason the custom entry I've placed in 40_custom isn't doing much of anything.
[23:53] <sudokill> lmgtfy
[23:54] <dr_willis> some links to setting up grub2 to boot ISO files --> http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[23:54] <archie-bot> Title: dr_willis's Bookmarks on Delicious (at delicious.com)
[23:54] <yagoo> Taroven, that's the first step.. the second step is to update grub config with update-** one of those commands
[23:54] <Taroven> Ooo, thanks dr_willis, perusing now
[23:54] <yagoo> !grub2
[23:54] <archie-bot> yagoo: Error: "grub2" is not a valid command.
[23:54] <archie-bot> Title: RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[23:54] <dr_willis> :)
[23:54] <dr_willis> Taroven,  you could install to a flash drive on some other box.. then boot a minimal live cd. and dd the flash drive to the HD.. then boot it :) i did that the other day
[23:55] <arch_is_awesome> !version
[23:55] <archie-bot> arch_is_awesome: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1.  The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1.
[23:55] <yagoo> Taroven, updating the 40_custom file is not enough..
[23:55] <arch_is_awesome> !part
[23:55] <dr_willis> Taroven,   you have to rerun update-grub after altering the grub configs
[23:55] <arch_is_awesome> Sorry about the bot.
[23:55] <itu> sorry, may i ask
[23:55] <yagoo> dr_willis, i alrady told him
[23:55] <ZykoticK9_> !msgthebot > arch_is_awesome
[23:55] <itu> where has this gone now?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck?action=show&redirect=CDIntegrityCheck
[23:55] <dr_willis> like in the old LILO days. :)
[23:56] <dr_willis> itu,  i think when you boot the cd. and you see a little man=keyboard logo at the bottom. You hit space. and its there in the extra options
[23:56] <itu> thanks for this hint
[23:56] <dr_willis> no one ever understands what that little man logo is for, :)
[23:57] <Taroven> yagoo/dr_willis: Running grub_mkconfig with the 40_custom in place doesn't seem to recognize the boot images I have in place, though I'm not sure if that's actually a problem. Lemme try something real quick on the other comp, might have just forgotten a step
[23:57] <dr_willis> at least I think its a little man and a keyboard..
[23:59] <Taroven> There we go, got the custom entry working, just got some errors to deal with now. =D
[23:59] <Taroven> error: no such partition. / error: you need to load the kernel first - Shouldn't be too horrid to deal with, right? =P
[23:59] <nnull> its like all quiet n stuff