[00:23] Im sure this has been asked many times, but whats the best way to resolve the 30-second initial startup of Thunar (and subsequent dupe window popping up 10 seconds later). I understand its related to network shares (which I dont use)/gvfs. I have tried changing the name of gdu-monitor to gdu-monitor.foo, and I just lost a long protracted battle trying to install the latest thunar from git [00:55] GSF1200S: the best way to prevent the duplicate window popping up is quit hit thunar twice. It does take a while, as you have surmised [01:02] charlie-tca: on 64bit it actually opens twice even if you only click once (this is known on bug reports). This problem has been fixed in the git release of thunar, but I cant get the configure script to get past looking for exo-1 even though its installed. [02:48] hello [02:49] I'm having big problems with Xubuntu, LiveCD worked fine, after installation screen is black. I cannot access recovery mode either, when pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 Nothing happens, when i used a boot code it gave me an error stating: Kernel is not loaded [02:49] can someone help me please? Thank you. [02:52] Sigh no one? :C [02:57] doh [02:57] ah [02:57] Heidt, Try removing quiet from the boot options [02:58] oh thanks finally some help D: [02:58] so I use E then remove quiet? [02:58] yea, and remove splash too [02:59] would it be too much to ask just to stay here and confirm if this is the problem? XD [02:59] ive been comming back constantly for support with other channels [02:59] Heidt, I'll be around for a little while, yea. Just say my name if you need to get my attention. [02:59] Thank you very much. [02:59] be back soon then [03:13] Ah damn I forgot then ame of the person who was helping me before [03:13] Grr. [03:13] Ok, the top panel for the default theme, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Am I able to change the colour so it matches the window borders? [03:14] Heidt, cody-somerville [03:14] Thanks A LOT [03:14] Heidt, hi. :) [03:14] Yeah it doesn't work Cody D: [03:14] I still get that black screen [03:14] but this error really gives me the creeps: No loaded kernel [03:14] it gave me this when i edited a boot option a while ago with another member [03:15] I'm really lost and confused Q_Q [03:16] Heidt, Edits made at the grub prompt aren't saved. You probably accidentally changed something incorrectly. [03:16] Heidt, Interesting that removing splash and quiet doesn't show you anything but a black screen though. [03:17] Heidt, Are there any words or graphics displayed at all after booting? [03:17] nope [03:20] any ideas? [03:26] Heidt, What version of Xubuntu did you install? [03:26] 11.04 [03:30] Heidt: how many drives do you have on the computer? [03:30] Heidt, Did this start immediately following installation? Or did you do anything like install nvidia drivers? [03:31] GSF no idea [03:31] Cody right after installation, worked fine in LiveCD though [03:32] Heidt, Have you tried installing a second time to see if that fixes it? [03:32] GST most of my drivers are updated though [03:32] Cody No I have not [03:32] How would I do that? [03:32] I cant even access recovery console [03:33] Heidt, Just boot the livecd again and go through the install process. [03:33] Heidt: is it a laptop or a desktop? The reason I ask is, if you have multiple storage devices (even usb devices) that were attached when you installed, the / could have been /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or whatever. If the drive order changes, initramfs will try to load the kernel (initramfs is installed on the mbr as I understand), but fail because its looking in the wrong place. Ive had this happen to me [03:33] GSF1200S, That'll present an error message usually. [03:34] it's a laptop [03:34] but i had nothing connected in USB [03:34] i only have 2 slots XD [03:34] cody-somerville, yeah, usually drop to a maintenance shell and say cannot find root filesystem- I wasnt sure if ubu did the same thing (i had such an issue with Arch) [03:34] Heidt- yeah, then I doubt that what I mentioned is your issue. [03:37] Heidt, Before reinstalling, you might try adding the following to boot options: nomodeset video=vesa:off gfxpayload=text [03:38] nomodeset is an invl [03:38] invalid command* [03:38] in xubuntu [03:38] command line [03:38] idk why [03:38] il ry the rest though [03:38] try* [03:38] Its not something you execute on the command line [03:38] how wud i do it then? [03:39] press E like you did at the grub prompt before [03:39] you append it to the grub boot line [03:39] yeah, E [03:40] thats what i did [03:40] it said invalid command :S [03:40] i tried nomodeset and [03:40] --nomodeset [03:41] sounds like you're trying to enter that as a command to grub instead after you start editing the menu entry [03:42] replace quiet splash with nomodeset ? [03:42] I press E and input nomodeset in the grub command line (by pressing c at os selection) [03:43] Heidt, press 'e' [03:43] don't press c [03:43] c takes you to grub command line [03:43] o sry i meant e [03:43] XD [03:43] i did do c [03:43] i did both [03:44] just do e, make your change, then press CTRL+x to boot with your changes [03:44] i did it's an invalid command according to my thing [03:44] do i have t oinsert in a specific location? [03:45] Heidt, after pressing e, you should see something like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=grub2.menu.edit.png [03:46] Heidt, use the keyboard to position the cursor, delete quiet and splash then type in nomodeset video=vesa:off gfxpayload=text [03:46] Heidt, once you've done that, press the CTRL key and the letter x at the same time to boot [03:47] Do not use ENTER to move between lines. [03:47] so i replace queit splash with nomodeset video=vesa:off gfxpayload=text? [03:47] yup [03:48] thanks guys [03:48] im gonna have to try this in a hour or so though [03:48] would you mind going over how to do an reinstall though? [03:49] Heidt, just boot the live cd like before and perform the installation like normal [03:49] ah thanks very much cody [03:49] i rly appreciate the time [03:49] u spent with me [03:49] u too gs [03:49] thanks [03:52] Heidt, My pleasure. I hope you can get it working. :) [04:45] mmm I don't know why i cant join to an irc network whit empathy, it says i can but then i doesnt let me choose what server to use http://imagebin.org/159442 [04:46] if i add irc.freenode.com or irc.ubunut.com or whatever it does nothing because it says im trying to connect to null [04:57] Hello [04:57] i need help with something is there anybody? [04:57] !ask | ilopez [04:57] ilopez: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:19] how do i set the flags for aplication / services that auto load at system boot theres a few i want off and 2 i want on [05:21] mm [05:22] run startupmanager [05:22] no, thats for other things [05:24] xfce4-settings-manager > session & startup [05:24] i went to the ubuntu start/stop page but that app isnt in the xubuntu distro frowns [05:25] im new to linux is that a bash command or an application? [05:25] never mind found it in apps [05:26] thank you gridcube [05:29] ehh that dosnt cover the synaptic crossfire server i have auto booting [05:29] mmm [05:33] where is the eqivilant of the windows registry [05:33] or dose linux not work like that [05:34] nope [05:34] might help if i state that im running 9.10 [05:34] everything is on text files [05:35] oh... yes i would XD [05:35] mmm someone else whit superior knowledge might know [05:35] nods still helped knowing about that panel [05:36] got 2 of my 3 turnt off [05:37] theres another tool i remember, but i cant recall its name [05:42] :D there it is! moshy :D its called rcconf [05:43] you need to install it from universe [05:43] >sudo apt-get update >> sudo apt-get install rcconf [05:45] is that a stand alone or like a plug in im not finding in the menues [05:46] you have to run that from a terminal [05:49] thats got it whiped now to turn on the crossfire server that i want to boot "hope i dont have to add any thing thru terminal [05:49] thank you tons GridCube [05:50] :) good luck [05:50] doh permisions denied [05:51] think sudo rcconf will do it [05:51] yup it forced it [06:21] Hi, my xfce4-panel 4.8.3 panel does not starts automatically with xubuntu. How should I solve this issue?? [06:58] Is there anything in 11.04 that I'd just need vs the LTS? [07:01] I'm assuming I'd only miss some little things ? [07:06] no need to upgrade unless you wish to [07:08] bazhang: I'm assuming some versions will be older, and stuff of that nature eventually ? [07:08] hi [07:09] Name141: yes [07:09] but if everything works for you, consider staying with lts [07:10] Wizard: I was just looking to use it as a file server , maybe SCP/SFTP or Samba with passwords for some folders besides music and so on [07:10] I thought that the LTS would be less 'maintance' [07:17] it will be [07:19] what does "maybe notified" in launchpad? [07:20] i've filled two bugs on sunday and don't see any activity :) [09:01] Hi @ all [09:02] Anyone knowing a way to change default runlevel in xubuntu to boot into textmode? Editing grub config doesn't work for me... [12:23] hi anyone know if xubuntu can display a log or printout of your system like a msinfo doc [12:26] lshw ? [12:27] knome what to i type that in terminal "lshw" thx [12:28] it says warning must use this programme as a superuser [12:29] \o/ it worked thanks knome [12:32] you can try package hardinfo [12:33] it is a neat graphical version of lshw [12:34] thanks doin it now === rabc is now known as draioch === xubuntu847 is now known as gonzo1990 [13:37] Hi, I have a weird problem, let's say that I'm logged in, I do a "sudo stop gdm" then I go to tty (ctrl-alt-f1), login, and do a " [13:37] sudo start gdm" at that point I get into a login-loop [13:38] I tried deleting ~/.ICEAuthority as mentioned somewhere on ubuntu forums but to no luck. Basically I just cannot restart gdm or I won't be able to log in anymore [13:42] maclaudi: did you try restarting the entire computer, instead of just gdm? [13:43] stopping gdm on a running desktop does disrupt the xserver [13:43] restarting the pc does the trick, of course. But I was testing some development on a window manager and I just wanted to restart only gdm and reload the custom .Xsession... [13:45] also, X gets started up again, as I'm prompted again with the login screen. It's just that entering the password brings me back to the login screen [13:46] The answer is to find what else needs to be restarted after killing the desktop then, which depends on which desktop environment you kill [13:48] but how is that everything works just fine if, instead of doing "sudo start gdm" I just do "startx"? I thought that internally gdm would also call startx? Therefore all the configuration taking place in the X starting files should happen nonetheless, no? [13:54] If you change the desktop, you also are changing what gdm is trying to start for login [13:54] startx calls much more than just gdm [13:54] gdm is an application by itself. startx requires a lot of things run to work [13:56] so I could reboot, list running applications stop gdm, start gdm, list running applications and see what I'm missing, correct? [13:56] or just use startx instead of gdm? [13:57] yes, sure, that is always an option :) - I'll try the listing and see what's going on [13:57] thanks for the tips! [13:57] hi, i'm new here [13:58] i need help [13:58] anyone? [14:13] ok, I'm back, apparently there are two differences: 1) /bin/sh /etc/init.d/ondemand background it's not restarted 2) /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --foreground --components=secrets is already running [14:13] I don't know what the ondemand does, the 2) maybe should be killed as well after stopping gdm? [14:18] I don't know. I don't go that deep into something that isn't broken [14:18] What is wrong with using startx if it works to make it restart? [14:32] до скорого ;) [14:47] !pl [14:47] Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl. [15:45] hello I finally got Xubuntu running with some help yesterday, but I noticed that it's not connected to the internet, my question is do I need a plugin or a update to fix that? Any help is appreciated. [15:46] Trying for wireless, Heidt? [15:46] yeah [15:47] hey Cody :D [15:47] it runs fine [15:47] just having probs with connecting to the internet now >.< [15:47] Know your hardware (wireless card)? [15:48] uhh how would I be able to check? [15:48] Open a terminal & enter "lspci" (no quotes). [15:49] It should show up there. It this a laptop? [15:49] yup [15:49] can I possibly do this check in Windows? [15:49] btw i think i remember it started with an S [15:49] Maybe? ;-) [15:49] when i did lspci a while ago [15:49] I haven't used Windows in years now... [15:49] Damn [15:49] okay il be right bak [15:49] >.< [15:49] Yeah, there should be a "Network Controller" line via lspci. [15:50] okay il go check quickly [15:50] il be right back [16:08] hey I'm back my wireless card is: [16:08] Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 [16:09] Damn is he still here? I'm friggin terrible with names. x.x [16:09] Yep. ;-) [16:10] Lemme look into that card. [16:10] IT'S YOU! >:D [16:11] Answers. >> http://duckduckgo.com/?q=bcm4312+Ubuntu [16:11] Looks like others have been able to get it to work. [16:11] by look what do you mean? [16:11] oh [16:11] search it up [16:11] IM SLOW TODAY. [16:11] No worries. [16:11] so i just do what it says on the top box? [16:12] Looks like you just need to enable the 'restricted driver' yup. [16:12] ah thanks very much I really appreciate the help [16:12] :) [16:12] In Xubuntu it's "System > Additional Drivers." [16:12] Do I do it in Xubuntu or Windows? [16:12] you can use b43, using jockey will just give you broadcom-wl [16:12] But you need to be online to do it. Can you plug in to ethernet? [16:13] If I can find a cable [16:13] if im lucky enough [16:13] http://askubuntu.com/questions/11993/how-do-i-install-bcm4312-wireless-drivers#12109 [16:13] >.< [16:13] anywya gotta find my charger brb [16:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [16:14] Anyone else in here love http://duckduckgo.com/ ? [16:14] I haven't used www.google.com in months. :D [16:14] lmao :P [16:15] I find it gives many fewer results than google, sometimes it doesn't give any when google does give an answer [16:15] well ima go give this a go in a bit [16:15] thanks a lot guys [16:15] Peace! [16:15] (knowing my luck i'll be back ._.) === xubuntu66 is now known as xub66 [16:43] was ist der unterschied zwieschen ubuntu und xubuntu? [16:43] !de | xubuntu244 [16:43] xubuntu244: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [16:48] How heavily based on gtk 2 is XFCE? [16:49] xfce uses gtk everywhere [16:49] so if I put in a gnome 3 ppa will I make xfce act up? [16:50] i don't know about that. charlie-tca might have some insight [16:50] ping charlie-tca [16:51] thanks knome :) [16:51] I want to use gnome 3/shell but I want that stable DE to use if shell acts up, but with xfce being gtk based I was like ehh that may be bad news. [16:54] afaik, there is problems with having gnome3 and xfce parallely installed [16:54] or at least, getting gnome3 cleanly uninstalled [16:54] I wonder if lxde would be a wiser alternative DE choice [16:55] yeah. I had gnome 3 PPA in and did a PPA purge + XFCE install last night. my system is acting STRANGE Now... [16:55] parallel to gnome3? [16:55] yeah [16:55] it went [16:55] 11.04 + Gnome 3 PPA/Gnome Shell, installed XFCE, PPA purge to Gnome 3. [16:56] I figured it would cause issues, but I wanted to try it before redoing the rig. [16:56] mmh. [16:56] i think the best DE is any DE alone :) [16:56] what DE that is, is a different thing [16:57] well, I felt kind of stuck [16:57] I wanted to use gnome shell, and I love ubuntu, but 11.04 is 2.x based. [16:57] so I wanted to bring it up to speed and use it, but it began acting WEIRD on me [16:58] that's when I tried to abort and, meh [16:58] yeah... [16:58] you can never count that PPA's or alpha/beta releases are stable [16:58] sometimes you can't even count that the final releases are stable :) [16:59] I hear ya. [16:59] I'm on fedora 15 now testing out gnome shell, but this whole anti media codec thing is a real pita [16:59] i don't think G3 is going to be as good as it can be in the first ubuntu+G3 release [16:59] I don't see why it wouldn't be, though. why do you say that? [17:00] there are deadlines to meet, and canonical does want to get the release out on time [17:00] also, widescale testing (read: first release with new DE version) is different than beta testing [17:00] eh, Im not too sure. unity is based on g3, so it would be in their best interest to have a solid g3 platform. [17:01] roasted, well, let's say G3/unity generally [17:01] roasted, also happened with KDE 4... [17:01] KDE 4 wasn't anything against Ubuntu. [17:01] KDE 4 was KDE 4. [17:01] i'm just saying it's really hard to get a new DE version top-notch in it's first release [17:01] kde 4 was in kubuntu LTS.. :) [17:01] 4.0 [17:02] I agree. I just think Gnome 3 has time now to get solidified, considering other distros are going to start using it and Ubuntu plans to use G3. [17:02] we'll see. :) [17:02] I'm convinced that 11.10 will bring a better G3/GS experience than 11.04s current PPA... [17:02] sure [17:02] otherwise, helloooooooooo Ubuntu/GS fork... [17:02] but is it a good enough experience... [17:03] can't be perfect, and that's nothing against the ubuntu or g3 developers [17:03] that's just really hard [17:03] in their defense, though... this seems to be relatively stable [17:03] for being in its infancy [17:03] that's a good sign [17:04] but there will be bugs [17:04] even in xfce ;) [17:04] I mean I have a few crashes now and then, but a quick ALT F2 "r" and hit enter and I'm back. [17:04] The only PITA I've seen with the PPA is this particular laptop has trouble suspending/resuming at times. [17:04] so I try to suspend with nothing critical running so if I have to tank it, it's okay [17:04] and I love suspend due to this SSD... it's a CR48 google laptop so it's not even a real conventional laptop. some hacking had to take place to get a bios on here, etc. [17:07] um, my guess is gnome3 will make most of Xfce fail! [17:08] since xfce is all gtk2, and gnome3 is all gtk3, I don't think they are compatible at all [17:13] likeminde I'm back [17:13] sadly it didn't work [17:13] i downloaded the driver restarted, and still no internet [17:17] it states that wireless network is available and to click the icon to connect [17:17] but even when I do I'm still not connected [17:17] any help? [17:18] anybody? :( [17:24] God so close! >:( [17:26] Heidth12, mind you explain your problems again? [17:26] After having installing a driver with a internet cable, i was told to restart [17:27] to be able to use my wireless card [17:27] i did so and now i get a little icon saying here to connect to wireless internet [17:27] i click it and nothing happens :l [17:27] yes i've read that part [17:27] what wireless? [17:28] Im sorry I have to go damnit. [17:28] the world always has [17:28] the perfect timing. [17:28] ill be back later [17:28] im sorry for the trouble [17:28] >.< [17:36] sorry im back [17:36] Grid really sorry [17:36] for that [17:37] its a VCN4312 [17:37] BCM4312* [17:37] god my luck is bad >_< [17:40] after installing a wireless card update (BCM4312) through a Ethernet Cable, I was told to restart and login. Now i get this icon saying wireless network is available and to click it, I do so but I still have no internet. Any ideas? [17:40] Heidt, just a hint; try not to use enter/return as punctuation, it makes the text on the channel really hard to follow [17:41] Sorry it's a really bad habit of mine >_< [17:42] Heidt, i don't know about BCM4312, but there's are tutorial on BCM43xx cards at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx, have you looked at that? [17:42] I will now thank you. [17:42] "On Ubuntu 11.04 installing the 'firmware-b43-installer' package takes care of the downloading and installation of the b43 driver. " [17:42] did you try that? [17:43] I just downloaded the driver to fix my wireless card [17:43] but it didn't work :S [17:43] where did you download that from? [17:43] Additional Drivers through a ethernet cable [17:43] right.. i wonder what that installed :) [17:44] then maybe check that page and try the methods listed there [17:44] oh, that card [17:44] Heidt, there is a whole channel in this network dedicated to that card [17:44] Really? :S [17:45] Heidt, #bcm-users [17:45] yes [17:45] they will probably know a lot more [17:46] also Heidt http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 [17:46] thank you [17:46] :) not a problem, sorry for not being of better help [17:48] ah you helped me a lot Grid dont say things like that :) [17:48] i appreciate it [17:49] btw it says for my wireless card: [17:49] partially in 2.6.33+ [17:49] would it still be able to work? [17:49] dunno [17:49] ask on that channel, they might know better [17:49] thanks [17:51] they seem to be away [17:51] :C [17:53] :) [17:53] just ask your question on a whole sentence and wait [17:53] say what you have done, how, and what the problem is, say your model and OS [17:53] Heidt: since almost everybody on IRC is a volunteer, sometimes it takes a little while for someone to be able to talk [17:59] the use of additional drivers with broadcom wireless devices usually entails the use of broadcom-wl (broadcom's proprietary driver). Support for that isn't usually found on such channels as #bcm-users because the encourage the use of b43 (community derived, reverse engineered and open source driver) [18:16] hello i cannot connect to internet on xubuntu, i installed my driver through a ethernet cable. now it tells me to click to connect, even though I do, I still am granted no internet access. Can anyone help me with this? [18:16] Heidt, i meant write that up on that other channel [18:18] I did but they won't grant me access [18:18] they say they cant give me support [18:20] :) first Heidt you need to take this things whit a calm mind, try to understand that other people is not on your computer, so they dont know what you are talking about, if you take things easy and ask poletely they will help you, like psycho_oreos is trying to do [18:21] As soon as I joined the channel he gave me a logn message I didn't understand :X [18:21] :) just wait and respond to their questions and they will be able to help you because they understand what you need to have things working, you just need to hel them [18:21] and saying he can't help me [18:22] :) he said to you that there are two tipes of drivers, ones are propietary, that means they cant help you whit those because they didn't make them, the others are free and those they can hel you [18:23] Oh okay [18:23] So does he want me to uninstall the propeitary? [18:23] :S [18:23] well if you want them to help you, whit what they can, then yes, you can always try again whit the propietary if things don't work [18:37] GridCube, there's actually 5 different drivers for broadcom wireless :) 5 including ndiswrapper === sygeek is now known as FusionX [19:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/630931/ [19:44] problem? [19:45] Exception: Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO [19:45] basically what the error says [19:45] Name141: normally, it is a good idea to tell us what the issue is, instead of just a paste [19:45] and then doesn't install [19:45] I'm trying to install the LTS via Wubi [19:46] check the log (which I posted..) [19:46] and then stops [19:46] looks like a bad download to me [19:46] the md5 checked out [19:46] and installed on a virtual machine OK [19:46] download that metalink from releases.ubuntu.com and place it there [19:47] inside of the ISO extract folder or C:\ubuntu ? [19:47] then wubi is broken, since you have many squashfs failures in it [19:48] Sysi: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/MD5SUMS-metalink ? [19:48] what charlie-tca said [19:49]