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| didrocks | good morning | 07:25 |
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| didrocks | pitti: guten morgen :) if you have some time, unity would need some binNEWing :) | 07:27 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh forgot that it's a national holiday for you, sorry for the notice :) | 07:30 |
| TheMuso | Hey didrocks. | 07:41 |
| didrocks | ola TheMuso! Did you have some time to try Qt + a11y? | 07:42 |
| TheMuso | didrocks: Just installed it now, but not sure what I should test with. :) | 07:42 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: you have some examples shipped with, qt and qml apps, you can as well try launching any qt app with the env variable | 07:43 |
| TheMuso | fair enough | 07:43 |
| * TheMuso can't work out how to build the examples... | 07:47 | |
| TheMuso | nm worked it out. | 07:48 |
| TheMuso | Working well, except for a few things like a multiline text view and some lists. | 07:49 |
| * TheMuso used the simple example found in qt-at-spi. | 07:49 | |
| TheMuso | didrocks: So working well | 07:50 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: nice :) we should then gather a list of feedback and send that to the Nokia guy, (like the multiline text and the lists) | 07:50 |
| TheMuso | Yup. | 07:50 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: do you want me to forward that to them if you can gather that? (I have some small other things to ask them) | 07:51 |
| TheMuso | didrocks: Sure, I am almost done for today, but I will do that tomorrow, and do some reviewing in accerciser as well. | 07:51 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: excellent, I'll send an email today then, CCing you and we can start the discussion :) | 07:51 |
| TheMuso | Sounds good. | 07:51 |
| didrocks | I'm pushing Qt to oneiric and qt-at-spi today then! | 07:52 |
| TheMuso | Sweet. | 07:52 |
| * TheMuso EOD, time to go and start packing. | 08:09 | |
| didrocks | TheMuso: see you! | 08:11 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 08:23 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson! how are you? | 08:27 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks. i'm good thanks, how are you? | 08:27 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I'm fine, thanks! Making my laptop in pain as debuild -S Qt (taking 25 minutes here) ;) | 08:28 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 08:29 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm glad i don't have to maintain qt ;) | 08:29 |
| didrocks | compiz… qt, when will this ends up? :-) | 08:30 |
| chrisccoulson | i think micahg volunteered to maintain compiz yesterday, when he took over maintaining nspluginwrapper ;) | 08:31 |
| pitti | hey all | 08:34 |
| pitti | didrocks: unity binNEW> sure, looking | 08:34 |
| didrocks | pitti: hey, don't fell force, I'll ask to seb once he's online. You should enjoy your day off! :-) | 08:34 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: oh, good news! :-) | 08:34 |
| pitti | oh, and lots of indicator bits in NEW as well | 08:34 |
| pitti | didrocks: that's fine; just brought my wife to the train station, so I'm back home | 08:35 |
| * didrocks adds micahg to ~compiz and run away :) | 08:35 | |
| pitti | didrocks: I want to do some garden work today, but it's still raining | 08:35 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks :-) | 08:35 |
| didrocks | oh? :/ | 08:35 |
| pitti | and I want to plan a bikeshed | 08:35 |
| didrocks | (cloudy here, but fortunatly, not rainy) | 08:35 |
| pitti | nice to do bikeshedding for real for a change :) | 08:35 |
| didrocks | heh, this should be the only bikeshedding we shold know :) | 08:36 |
| pitti | we had a nice bbq with all the neighbors yesterday; it rained half of the time, but we got some umbrellas, and it was lots of fun | 08:36 |
| didrocks | pitti: I hope that the bbq was more protected than with just umbrellas :) | 08:36 |
| didrocks | or you would have eaten cold food :) | 08:37 |
| pitti | yeah, it was under a roof | 08:37 |
| didrocks | (qt-at-spi uploaded \o/ will need NEWing. Prepping the MIR) | 08:40 |
| pitti | kenvandine: indicator-me-gtk2 binNEW review> why does this depend on libdbusmenu-gtk3? | 08:52 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 08:53 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - libdbusmenu-gtk3 is actually the gtk2 version isn't it? | 08:53 |
| chrisccoulson | libdbusmenu-gtk3-3 is the gtk3 version, i think | 08:54 |
| pitti | ah, how confusing | 08:54 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, it is a bit ;) | 08:54 |
| pitti | kenvandine: why does indicator-session have lots of icons, but i-session-gtk2 doesn't have them? | 08:56 |
| didrocks | I guess a matrix is needed :) | 08:56 |
| pitti | W: libunity-core-4.0-1: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libunity-core-4.0-4 | 08:58 |
| pitti | hmm | 08:58 |
| seb128 | hey | 08:58 |
| pitti | didrocks: lintian reports tons of spelling errors in unity, perhaps you can fix them? | 08:58 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 08:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, guten tag, aren't you supposed to be on holidays? ;-) | 08:58 |
| pitti | W: unity-common: desktop-command-not-in-package /usr/share/applications/unity-preferences.desktop unity-preferences | 08:58 |
| pitti | didrocks: ^ forgotten in .install? | 08:59 |
| pitti | seb128: erm, yes | 08:59 |
| pitti | binNEWing doesn't count as holidays? | 08:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, that warning is likely "bin is in unity, .desktop in common" | 08:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: hum, really? I thought I cleaned the lintian warnings yesterday | 08:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: right, the desktop file is in common, the binary in unity | 08:59 |
| seb128 | where the .desktop should not be in common | 08:59 |
| pitti | didrocks: but libunity-core-4.0-1 shipping soname 4 and being named -1 sounds more serious | 08:59 |
| pitti | didrocks: want me to reject to get that fixed? | 08:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: sure please | 09:00 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 09:00 |
| didrocks | hum, I'm afraid that last commit I backported rechanged *again* the soname :/ | 09:00 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 09:00 |
| pitti | ok, oneiric NEW is down from 80 to 18 | 09:00 |
| didrocks | 4 soname change for one release is too much… | 09:00 |
| didrocks | seb128: pitti: so you prefer the desktop file in unity, not in -common? | 09:00 |
| pitti | didrocks: no, that's fine | 09:00 |
| pitti | I just spotted the lintian error, I didnt' check the dependency | 09:01 |
| pitti | it's just a bit weird to have u-common depend on u | 09:01 |
| pitti | but no biggue | 09:01 |
| * didrocks still wonders why he didn't see those errors yesterday, normally, I check them closely | 09:01 | |
| pitti | biggie | 09:01 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well that's what is recommended I think because it avoids things like "I uninstalled unity but nothing cleaned -common and now I've a desktop file not matching any binary" | 09:01 |
| pitti | yes, in that case -common should depend on unity | 09:02 |
| seb128 | circular depends? | 09:02 |
| didrocks | unity deps on -common, so no :) | 09:02 |
| didrocks | let's try to avoid circular dep | 09:02 |
| didrocks | let's put the desktop file in the bin then | 09:02 |
| pitti | then I'd also prefer moving the .desktop file | 09:02 |
| didrocks | pitti: can I reupload with the same version or should I bump as the binaries are rejected? (will the source be overwritten?) | 09:03 |
| seb128 | \o/ gtk3 indicators | 09:03 |
| seb128 | with some gsettings porting on the way | 09:03 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you need to update the version | 09:03 |
| didrocks | ok | 09:03 |
| pitti | didrocks: you need to bump -- the source is already in the archive after all | 09:04 |
| seb128 | didrocks, the source is published so you can't use the version again | 09:04 |
| pitti | didrocks: you just don't need conflicts/replaces for the rejected binaries | 09:04 |
| seb128 | using the same version work only for things which are not source newed | 09:04 |
| pitti | or in unapproved during freezes | 09:04 |
| didrocks | ok, so njpatel fixed the soname the other way around we agreed, should have checked with the last commit… | 09:06 |
| didrocks | sorry about that | 09:06 |
| rodrigo_ | is debian going to package 3.1.x soon? | 09:06 |
| seb128 | hey rodrigo_ | 09:18 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I doubt so, they usually don't have the manpower to track unstable series | 09:18 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, why? | 09:18 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, could you check on bug #796578 | 09:18 |
| seb128 | ? | 09:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 796578 in gsettings-desktop-schemas "org.gnome.desktop.default-applications.gschema.xml references undefined child schema org.gnome.desktop.default-applications.at" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796578 | 09:18 |
| seb128 | vuntz|afk, hey, could you review the patch on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168718 when you have time ? | 09:19 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, because I wanted to update g-desktop, so I just do it on our branch then, right? | 09:19 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 168718 in general "libwnck skimps on an access to XClassHint components" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 09:19 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok, looking | 09:19 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yes | 09:20 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, be careful there is a soname change in the new gnome-desktop, maybe ask for a review before uploadin | 09:20 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok | 09:20 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, also, there's an API change in one method, a new arg added, so I'm first checking where it's used | 09:20 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well that's fine, if the soname changes we will need to transition all the rdepends anyway | 09:21 |
| rodrigo_ | ah ok | 09:21 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, oh, while I'm at, bug #800561 as well | 09:22 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 800561 in gnome-control-center "No way to add other keymap than english on Live CD" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800561 | 09:22 |
| seb128 | should I just assign that to you? I think you where working on that capplet recently? | 09:23 |
| seb128 | it seems to work fine on my system, maybe a missing depends or something? | 09:23 |
| seb128 | I will try to check on the bug and update it if I figure something | 09:23 |
| pitti | yay, ubuntu-defaults-builder finally built and is in binNEW | 09:23 |
| seb128 | oh, pitti already assigned it to you | 09:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, \o/ | 09:25 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, looking now at both bugs (one at a time, that is :-) | 09:25 |
| rodrigo_ | the gsettings-desktop-schemas one is already fixed in git,s o just adding the patch now | 09:25 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yeah no hurry, sorry about the morning spam, I'm just going through the night backlog in my mailboxes | 09:25 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, thanks | 09:25 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, btw I'm done with the backlog so no other surprise for you ;-) | 09:26 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 09:27 |
| chrisccoulson | oh man, down to 40% capacity now | 09:39 |
| chrisccoulson | my battery is not going to last the rally next week ;) | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | it's dying a rather rapid death | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | i think it's time for a new laptop! | 09:40 |
| seb128 | jibel, so you can open the region capplet on the current iso? | 09:42 |
| seb128 | jibel, rodrigo_: so I need to rsync the current iso but on the one week old iso I have the region capplet doesn't start because accountsservice is not on the CD | 09:42 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, get a chromebook ;) they claim you don't even need to carry the charger with you | 09:42 |
| seb128 | still blocking on the SRU | 09:43 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, right, no answer from kees on the bug, afaics, will ping him | 09:44 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yeah, don't worry, we will corner him next week if needed ;-) | 09:44 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 09:44 |
| jibel | seb128, I can. | 09:45 |
| seb128 | jibel: can you try if installing accountsservice on the liveCD fixes the issue? | 09:45 |
| seb128 | jibel, you should be able to enable the universe source and install it | 09:46 |
| seb128 | jibel, oh, also do you know when the sound indicator issue started? | 09:46 |
| jibel | seb128, here is the error when I launch the region capplet: region-cc-panel-WARNING **: Failed to list existing users: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Accounts was not provided by any .service files | 09:49 |
| jibel | seb128, I install accountsservice | 09:49 |
| seb128 | jibel, thanks | 09:49 |
| jibel | seb128, I don't know when it started. I saw that this morning while reviewing Oneiric's bug queue. | 09:53 |
| seb128 | jibel, don't worry, I was just wondering if that's the recent ido update or an indicator issue | 09:54 |
| seb128 | will sort it out with dx | 09:54 |
| jibel | seb128, talking about sound, a dev should have a look at bug 791183 too. | 09:56 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 791183 in indicator-sound "volume indicator not working" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791183 | 09:56 |
| seb128 | jibel, it's called "sound indicator" btw ;-) right, could be due to the same updates | 09:56 |
| seb128 | will check with kenvandine | 09:56 |
| didrocks | pitti: ubuntu-defaults-builder binNEWed and new unity uploaded, hopefully will be soon built! (cleaned all lintian warning I can clean, just one man page missing upstream) | 09:57 |
| seb128 | ups | 09:57 |
| jibel | seb128, installing accountsservice removes the warning, but I'm still unable to add a layout unless clicking on 'reset to defaults'. I'll comment the bug report. | 10:00 |
| seb128 | jibel, ok thanks, that was worth a try ;-) | 10:00 |
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| seb128 | rodrigo_, | 10:59 |
| seb128 | ./tomboy-1.6.1/Tomboy/Addins/WebSyncService/Api/ProxiedWebRequest.cs:"/system/http_proxy | 11:00 |
| seb128 | ./gnome-applets-2.91.4~20110321/invest-applet/invest/__init__.py:host = client.get_string("/system/http_proxy/host") | 11:00 |
| seb128 | ./liferea-1.6.4/src/conf.h:#define GNOME_USE_PROXY"/system/http_proxy/use_http_proxy"/* old GNOME proxy enabling key * | 11:00 |
| seb128 | then the ones I listed yesterday | 11:01 |
| seb128 | e-d-s, rb | 11:01 |
| seb128 | ./seahorse-3.0.2/pgp/seahorse-hkp-source.c:#define GCONF_USE_HTTP_PROXY "/system/http_proxy/use_http_proxy" | 11:02 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, doing a run for universe now | 11:03 |
| ronoc | seb128, do you know where I can find the dev package for libido3 ? | 11:06 |
| seb128 | ronoc, in oneiric | 11:06 |
| ronoc | seb128, only there ? | 11:06 |
| seb128 | yes | 11:06 |
| ronoc | ah i just wanted to test mterry's port | 11:06 |
| seb128 | it's about time to upgrade to oneiric ;-) | 11:06 |
| ronoc | never | 11:06 |
| ronoc | until after the alpha :) | 11:07 |
| seb128 | ronoc, joke aside that will rely on a GTK3 unity etc | 11:07 |
| ronoc | seb128, ok i'll do all the updating next week | 11:07 |
| seb128 | ronoc, that doesn't work, you can't block everybody this way, ted upgraded this week | 11:07 |
| seb128 | ronoc, your indicator is the only one blocking unity on gtk3 | 11:07 |
| ronoc | i'm about to merge | 11:07 |
| seb128 | great ;-) | 11:08 |
| seb128 | ronoc, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ido/0.2.90-0ubuntu1 | 11:08 |
| seb128 | you can try to get the binaries from there | 11:08 |
| seb128 | but they might not work with the gtk3 in natty | 11:08 |
| seb128 | you might need a newer one | 11:08 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok | 11:08 |
| ronoc | seb128, ok thanks | 11:08 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, | 11:09 |
| seb128 | ./bug-buddy-2.31.92/src/bug-buddy.c:#define USE_PROXY_KEY "/system/http_proxy/use_http_proxy" | 11:09 |
| seb128 | ./muine-0.8.11/src/GnomeProxy.cs:private const string GConfProxyPath = "/system/http_proxy"; | 11:09 |
| seb128 | ./sound-juicer-2.32.1+20110330/libjuicer/sj-metadata-musicbrainz3.c:#define GCONF_PROXY_USE_PROXY "/system/http_proxy/use_http_proxy" | 11:09 |
| seb128 | ./gnome-gmail-notifier-0.10.1/src/ggn-prefs.h:#define GGN_GCONF_PROXY_HOST "/system/http_proxy/host" | 11:09 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I guess it's enough to justify keeping the g-s-d plugin :) | 11:09 |
| seb128 | ./drivel-3.0.3/src/journal.c:dc->id.proxy_id = gconf_client_notify_add (dc->client, "/system/http_proxy/use_http_proxy", proxy_changed_cb, | 11:09 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, indeed ;-) | 11:09 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, but yes, will have a look at porting some of those to gsettings | 11:09 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, don't bother with universe ones | 11:10 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, but i.e seahorse could be nice | 11:10 |
| seb128 | or liferea | 11:10 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, I'll have a look at those at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gnome3-gsettings | 11:10 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, seahotse is not there | 11:10 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I will add it | 11:10 |
| seb128 | I'm still filing bugs | 11:10 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, thanks | 11:10 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you have a better list on the etherpad | 11:10 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, much better yeah | 11:11 |
| seb128 | hum | 11:16 |
| seb128 | why is firefox depending on python-gtk2? | 11:16 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, it's your fault! | 11:21 |
| chrisccoulson | it's all my fault! | 11:22 |
| seb128 | indeed | 11:22 |
| chrisccoulson | it's currently used for the profile migrator script, for people that have used the nightlies | 11:22 |
| chrisccoulson | but i'm going to just remove it | 11:22 |
| seb128 | why is firefox depending on python-gtk2? | 11:22 |
| chrisccoulson | it doesn't make any sense any more | 11:22 |
| seb128 | thanks ;-) | 11:22 |
| seb128 | do you need a bug for it? | 11:22 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, no, i was going to drop it any way | 11:22 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:23 |
| seb128 | thanks ;-) | 11:23 |
| seb128 | that was easier that I though ;-) | 11:23 |
| chrisccoulson | but thunderbird is a higher priority for me :P | 11:23 |
| chrisccoulson | (especially seeing as everyone will be using chromium soon!) | 11:23 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 11:23 |
| seb128 | they will use gmail in chromium as well | 11:23 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 11:23 |
| seb128 | don't bother with emails clients :p | 11:23 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: the "application at startup" isn't ported in g-c-c yet, right? | 11:24 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, you mean the old g-session-properties? | 11:25 |
| didrocks | right | 11:25 |
| didrocks | (with session saving and all this fun stuff) | 11:25 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, I have a branch in g-c-c git about adding it, and the design is being discussed (https://live.gnome.org/Design/Proposals/Autostart), but I am starting to like the idea of not having that UI and just have a menu entry for launchers in g-shell/unity | 11:26 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, how would you know what softwares are in the autostart list? | 11:27 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: anyway, g-s-p will be removed as it is? | 11:27 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I don't think there is any plan for the "save session" in g-c-c | 11:27 |
| seb128 | what rodrigo_ is working on is the autostarts | 11:27 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, we might need an API in glib, or the shell/unity can just check it | 11:28 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, as we will remove it from ui, if the ui is going away, I'll remove it | 11:28 |
| didrocks | I won't* remove it | 11:28 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, not removed, it's still around afaik, but there's no launcher for it | 11:28 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well, but where would they display the list? | 11:28 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, having to figure what icons to right click on is not user friendly ;-) | 11:28 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, no list, launchers would show it | 11:28 |
| seb128 | hum | 11:29 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, you mean for disabling an autostart app | 11:29 |
| seb128 | yes | 11:29 |
| rodrigo_ | that might be tricky indeed | 11:29 |
| didrocks | ok, I'll remove the GUI option then, not blacklist it by command line (even if I didn't find a switch equivalent to gnome-session-save) | 11:29 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, add a comment to https://live.gnome.org/Design/Proposals/Autostart | 11:29 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I'll add it myself | 11:29 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, thanks | 11:29 |
| seb128 | didrocks, seems good | 11:29 |
| ronoc | seb128, will release later with that gtk3 port merged | 11:31 |
| seb128 | ronoc, thanks | 11:31 |
| seb128 | ronoc, well that can wait next week if you prefer time for testing | 11:32 |
| ronoc | seb128, will i merged to trunk already | 11:32 |
| seb128 | ronoc, I doubt we will land a new unity today or tomorrow with the service switched to gtk3 now | 11:32 |
| ronoc | seb128, ok | 11:32 |
| seb128 | so we can as well look at that together on monday | 11:32 |
| ronoc | seb128, ok sound, I'll get an oneric partition ready in the interim | 11:33 |
| seb128 | ronoc, btw dunno if you saw but jibel said the sound indicator is broken in current oneiric | 11:33 |
| seb128 | he opened a bug about that earlier | 11:33 |
| ronoc | seb128, i saw something about the metadata disappeared | 11:33 |
| ronoc | seb128, I need to move over to oneric now | 11:34 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:34 |
| seb128 | good luck ;-) | 11:34 |
| ronoc | thanks :) | 11:34 |
| seb128 | session restart, brb | 11:34 |
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| rodrigo_ | seb128, the gnome-desktop3 branch for review -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/oneiric/gnome-desktop3/3_1_2_release/+merge/65642 | 12:49 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, thanks | 12:49 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you need to update the -dev depends in the control.in as well | 12:50 |
| seb128 | in the rules you need to update the shlibs line for the new binary name | 12:51 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, the .symbols first line needs to be updated as well | 12:53 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, oh, ok | 12:57 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, pushing | 12:59 |
| rodrigo_ | just grep'ed for the old name to make sure there was nothing else, seems it's ok now | 12:59 |
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| rodrigo_ | lunch, bbl | 13:22 |
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| * mterry wonders why indicator-session isn't appearing in his panel | 13:41 | |
| seb128 | mterry, do you have indicator-session-gtk2 installed? | 13:42 |
| didrocks | mterry: you can wait for it appearing and do a quick MIR review in the same time? :p | 13:42 |
| mterry | seb128, no I have the new gtk3 one. It's on my disk, just not getting loaded | 13:43 |
| mterry | didrocks, which MIR? | 13:43 |
| seb128 | mterry, loaded by what? | 13:43 |
| mterry | seb128, by unity 4.0 | 13:43 |
| didrocks | mterry: this fresh new one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt-at-spi/+bug/801080 :) | 13:43 |
| seb128 | mterry, neither unity nor indicator-applet are on gtk3 | 13:43 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 801080 in qt-at-spi "[MIR] qt-at-spi" [Undecided,New] | 13:43 |
| seb128 | mterry, unity 4 has it panel service still on gtk2 | 13:44 |
| mterry | seb128, oh! I got fooled | 13:44 |
| mterry | seb128, yup, I don't have the gtk2 one | 13:44 |
| seb128 | mterry, njpatel said it's like 5 lines to do gtk3 but he was waiting on indicators to be available to test | 13:44 |
| seb128 | mterry, we will switch and clean next week | 13:44 |
| njpatel | It's always "5-lines" until the 500-line diff! | 13:44 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:44 |
| seb128 | njpatel, don't worry we will keep you locked until it's done | 13:45 |
| seb128 | njpatel, can be 500 lines that's not an issue | 13:45 |
| njpatel | seb128, heh, you can try! | 13:45 |
| didrocks | and 0 don't count! | 13:45 |
| didrocks | :-) | 13:45 |
| njpatel | seb128, it really shouldn't be that hard, but I'm sure I'm missing something or ted has decided to break everything | 13:45 |
| njpatel | seb128, also, I need to make things hard for didrocks, of course :) | 13:46 |
| seb128 | njpatel, it's only code, how hard can it be | 13:46 |
| didrocks | njpatel: where will be the pleasure otherwise? :) | 13:46 |
| * njpatel adds a new dep for nux: unity! | 13:46 | |
| didrocks | already the dual dep is fun :) | 13:46 |
| seb128 | njpatel, didrocks is hidding in shame since you changed the unity lib soname in a commit | 13:46 |
| seb128 | njpatel, which he backported without updating the packaging | 13:46 |
| njpatel | seb128, aaah, bad didrocks ! | 13:46 |
| * njpatel runs | 13:46 | |
| seb128 | njpatel, so give him a break, it's enough for a man in a week ;-) | 13:46 |
| didrocks | njpatel: seb128: well, I caught 3 soname change in commits | 13:46 |
| didrocks | just not the latest :) | 13:47 |
| * didrocks blames upstream | 13:47 | |
| njpatel | haha | 13:47 |
| didrocks | :-) | 13:47 |
| njpatel | we are terrible :) | 13:47 |
| didrocks | it's like for qt things with agateau. Before releasing something, he changed the licensing 3 times! :) | 13:47 |
| didrocks | dx seems to want messing with packagers :-) | 13:48 |
| didrocks | njpatel: next time, I won't be trapped and I will have my revenge at the rally! | 13:48 |
| agateau | didrocks: and I am about to change those one more time! | 13:48 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 13:48 |
| njpatel | didrocks, hehe | 13:48 |
| * njpatel get's ready to add a new lib with a silly soname | 13:48 | |
| didrocks | njpatel: you try try "njpatel1é as soname | 13:49 |
| didrocks | I heard that even some people are using their name on dbus :p | 13:50 |
| mterry | Is doko not around this week? | 13:55 |
| seb128 | mterry, not sure, he's not on leave on the calendar at least | 13:57 |
| didrocks | mterry: no, you want that review for success and praise! :-) | 13:57 |
| seb128 | mterry, get didrocks to review u1-couch in exchange of the review you do for him | 13:58 |
| seb128 | mterry, it's fair trading and you workaround the doko issue ;-) | 13:58 |
| mterry | eh it feels like stealing it from doko, but I'll do what it takes ;) | 13:58 |
| mterry | didrocks, you got some time? | 13:58 |
| * didrocks feels a trap | 13:59 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, well, he's the one not responding so it's only fair ;-) | 13:59 |
| * didrocks whistles | 13:59 | |
| didrocks | mterry: so, now that I removed desktopcouch from oneconf, I need to look at couch things again? ;) | 13:59 |
| mterry | didrocks, this is barely couch | 14:00 |
| mterry | didrocks, more like seat | 14:00 |
| seb128 | lol | 14:00 |
| didrocks | is it confortable? :) | 14:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well as long as it comes with a beer say yes ;-) | 14:00 |
| * mterry is suspiciously silent | 14:00 | |
| * seb128 hugs nessita | 14:01 | |
| seb128 | nessita, thanks for triaging my bug ;-) | 14:01 |
| nessita | seb128: heh! | 14:01 |
| seb128 | nessita, do you come to the rally next week btw? | 14:01 |
| nessita | seb128: I want to work on that bug, but I keep getting assigned other tasks :-( | 14:02 |
| nessita | seb128: no... I will you though | 14:02 |
| nessita | i will miss* you :-P | 14:02 |
| seb128 | same here | 14:02 |
| didrocks | mterry: if you need it, I can have a look now :) | 14:02 |
| mterry | didrocks, last thing holding up deja-dup: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deja-dup/+bug/491644 | 14:03 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 491644 in deja-dup "[MIR] deja-dup and friends" [Wishlist,In progress] | 14:03 |
| didrocks | and friends? deja-dup is seat friendly then? : ) | 14:03 |
| mterry | :) | 14:04 |
| didrocks | nessita: hey, are you aware of an issue where we can ask for a glib timeout for a sso credential and never receive the signal callback? | 14:08 |
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| mterry | didrocks, these qt-at-spi tests don't seem designed to run during build time, is that true? | 14:12 |
| didrocks | mterry: no, because they are using dbus and they create some X windows :/ | 14:12 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, creating X windows is fine ;) | 14:13 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: for buildds? | 14:13 |
| chrisccoulson | firefox runs the entire browser during its unit tests | 14:13 |
| chrisccoulson | (on the buildd's) | 14:13 |
| didrocks | sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 | 14:13 |
| didrocks | oupss | 14:13 |
| didrocks | waow | 14:13 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, xvfb-run ftw ;) | 14:13 |
| didrocks | :) | 14:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, xvfb? | 14:13 |
| chrisccoulson | indeed :) | 14:13 |
| seb128 | that's what i.e pygtk does | 14:13 |
| didrocks | ok, didn't know it | 14:13 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah, the mochitest suite runs a full browser (and a simulated http server), and can do pretty much anything (eg, simulating input events etc) | 14:14 |
| didrocks | that's nice to know :) | 14:14 |
| didrocks | mterry: run-tests isn't runned in ubuntuone-couch build time as well, right? | 14:14 |
| seb128 | hum, I should get popcorns while I watch didrocks and mterry counting points ;-) | 14:15 |
| didrocks | seb128: some people are working, other are slackering :p | 14:15 |
| mterry | :) | 14:15 |
| nessita | didrocks: hey there! I'm not completely sure what you're asking. What I do know is that our current sso client does not work on O due to keyring API changes, dobey is working on fixing that | 14:16 |
| nessita | didrocks: does that answer your question? /me guess no | 14:16 |
| didrocks | it's not the client, I'm using the sso API and in natty or oneiric, when I request for credential, sometimes, I don't get the callback | 14:16 |
| mterry | didrocks, actually, run-tests does look like it spawns an xvfb session. It might actually be runnable on a build server | 14:16 |
| didrocks | nessita: I have an example if you want | 14:16 |
| didrocks | mterry: right | 14:17 |
| dobey | mterry: in u1couch? it doesn't need xvfb… if run-tests has that, i'd consider it a bug | 14:18 |
| mterry | dobey, well it does have it | 14:19 |
| didrocks | nessita: bzr branch lp:oneconf ; cd oneconf/oneconf/networksync ; python ssohandler.py | 14:19 |
| dobey | mterry: ok, i'm pretty sure u1couch has no GUI, so it shouldn't be required :) | 14:20 |
| didrocks | nessita: there is a first authentification call, which works 100% of the time, the a g_timeout_add_seconds for 10s which tries again to authentify. This one work 50% of the time (getting the dbus signal as answer) | 14:20 |
| didrocks | mterry: ok, all looks fine for u1-couch, bonus point to run the testsuite, but I won't block on that | 14:22 |
| didrocks | oh wait! | 14:22 |
| didrocks | W: ubuntuone-couch source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.9.1 (current is 3.9.2) | 14:22 |
| didrocks | no, I can't, it's too much :-) | 14:22 |
| * mterry will buy one less beer for didrocks now | 14:22 | |
| didrocks | mterry: </kidding> ok promoting ;) | 14:22 |
| mterry | :) | 14:22 |
| nessita | didrocks: oh | 14:22 |
| nessita | didrocks: the ussoc service shutdown after 10 seconds of inactivity | 14:23 |
| didrocks | nessita: ok, so it can receive the signal, but still tells "ok bye" | 14:23 |
| didrocks | it's like if you enter a store and "too late, we're closing" :) | 14:23 |
| didrocks | but still taking the request, just not answering ;) | 14:23 |
| nessita | didrocks: we have a counter that is increased after each request and decreased after each response... so not sure how that can happen | 14:24 |
| nessita | didrocks: please file a bug and attach your sso logs | 14:24 |
| nessita | didrocks: what ubuntu are you running | 14:24 |
| didrocks | mterry: one less beer? I can wait for promoting during the rally, being beer-conditionally started :) | 14:24 |
| didrocks | nessita: I got it on natty and oneiric | 14:24 |
| didrocks | nessita: sure for filing a bug, what should I attach as logs? | 14:24 |
| mterry | didrocks, fine. /me starts assigning more MIRs to didrocks | 14:25 |
| nessita | didrocks: I guess your request is being answered between the counter check and the actual shutdown, which is a pain | 14:25 |
| nessita | didrocks: .cache/sso | 14:25 |
| * didrocks use this awesome new "mute bug mails feature" | 14:25 | |
| mterry | didrocks, ooh, what email client do you use? i want that | 14:25 |
| didrocks | nessita: ok, will file a bug :) | 14:25 |
| didrocks | mterry: heh, launchpad does that now (on specific bug though) | 14:26 |
| nessita | didrocks: thanks! in the mean time you should change your reconnect time to more than 10 seconds (or less), but not exactly 10 | 14:27 |
| didrocks | nessita: well, this was just my test case, I don't make that in real life, I just do that if you disconnect/reconnect in 10 seconds :) | 14:27 |
| nessita | ah | 14:28 |
| nessita | don't allow the user do that with 10 seconds apart! | 14:28 |
| nessita | :-P | 14:28 |
| didrocks | so yeah, you are quite screwed if nm reconnects in 10 seconds | 14:28 |
| didrocks | well, it's rather there network connection ;) | 14:28 |
| nessita | didrocks: we can always change our internal timeout | 14:28 |
| nessita | until we actually fix the bug (which is not trivial to fix) | 14:28 |
| didrocks | nessita: well, it will be the same issue | 14:28 |
| nessita | yeap | 14:28 |
| didrocks | nessita: for oneconf, I have an "activity" tag | 14:28 |
| didrocks | is there is activity turn on by every request | 14:29 |
| didrocks | it will increase the daemon life time by the timeout time | 14:29 |
| didrocks | mterry: done, keep me posted on qt-at-spi | 14:33 |
| mterry | didrocks, it was approved | 14:33 |
| didrocks | oh nice :) | 14:34 |
| didrocks | mterry: and no, I didn't turn off bug mails already :p | 14:34 |
| mterry | :) | 14:34 |
| * mterry now bugs archive admins | 14:34 | |
| didrocks | mterry: for what? ;) | 14:35 |
| mterry | to actually promote | 14:35 |
| mterry | didrocks, oh! you're an archive admin aren't you | 14:35 |
| didrocks | it's what I intended by "done" :-) | 14:35 |
| mterry | didrocks, yay! | 14:35 |
| * mterry hugs didrocks, gives him his beer back | 14:35 | |
| * didrocks hugs mterry! | 14:35 | |
| didrocks | ok, editing the seed now | 14:36 |
| didrocks | (for qt-at-spi) | 14:36 |
| mterry | didrocks, k. let me know when you're done and I'll throw in DD | 14:36 |
| didrocks | mterry: it's all yours :) | 14:38 |
| mterry | didrocks, I'll update ubuntu-meta while I'm at it | 14:47 |
| didrocks | mterry: perfect! | 14:47 |
| dobey | hrmm | 14:48 |
| dobey | i guess the ~/.gtk-bookmarks didn't become ~/.gtk-3.0-bookmarks for 3.x also | 14:48 |
| didrocks | nessita: bug #801154 FYI | 14:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 801154 in ubuntu-sso-client "Some request can be missed in racy calls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801154 | 14:49 |
| didrocks | mterry: just on librsync, was there a good ending on that? I'm not clear from the bug report | 14:52 |
| mterry | didrocks, a good ending in the sense that doko seemed to agree it didn't need lively maintenance. I confirmed that upstream is all but dead, though debian upstream is active | 14:52 |
| mterry | didrocks, our own martin pool used to be a maintainer, but hasn't touched it in years | 14:53 |
| didrocks | mterry: ok, finishing the other promotions then, hold up! | 14:53 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, does the g-desktop branch look ok now? Can I upload? | 14:54 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, let me check | 14:57 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, seems fine yes | 14:58 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok, thanks for the review! | 14:59 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yw ;-) | 15:00 |
| seb128 | dobey, no they didn't | 15:01 |
| seb128 | dobey, the format didn't change so no reason to rename the file | 15:01 |
| dobey | seb128: sure. but i've had to deal with my fair share of unreasonable changes before in gtk :) | 15:03 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:05 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you did a copy error, bug #801132 | 15:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 801132 in indicator-session "indicator-session should depend on indicator-session-gtk2" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801132 | 15:08 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you made it recommends the wrong indicator ;-) | 15:08 |
| seb128 | which also explain why mterry didn't have the -gtk2 installed earlier | 15:08 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks | 15:13 |
| seb128 | (did you read my ping or just fixed it at the same time?) | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | seb128, oh... i didn't see the bug :) | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | i fixed my desktop box last night and was able to test in a VM this morning :) | 15:14 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | omg omg omg the repairs work has just been finished in my debroom. I can finally sleep on my bed, for the first time since UDS! | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, woot | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | err. debroom = bedroom | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: indeed :D | 15:14 |
| * cyphermox crawls back to C code | 15:15 | |
| kenvandine | seb128, i usually use my desktop box to run relatively clean VMs that point to a local apt repo... very useful for testing upgrades before uploading :) | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | but the motherboard died in it recently, just got the new one in it last night | 15:16 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ;-) | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | testing upgrade paths are generally a good thing :) | 15:16 |
| seb128 | I usually rely on users to complain if I break something :p | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | hehe... i like working with VMs | 15:16 |
| seb128 | (did I just said that out loud? ;-) | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | haha :) | 15:17 |
| seb128 | I liked vms in a time where our desktop was running in those :p | 15:17 |
| seb128 | can't run unity in kvm | 15:17 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: talking about repairing things :) | 15:17 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: ? | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | yeah, it was working in virtualbox | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | but now i get fallback mode | 15:18 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: do you have any idea how I can give you the needed info for network-manager messing with me? Like, at every startup in the morning, it doesn't want to connect to my wiki | 15:18 |
| cyphermox | repairing the indicators not showing in my session? :D | 15:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, use the etherpad :p | 15:18 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: also there is the policykit dialog telling it wants to change some system data, and then prompting for a blank dialog | 15:18 |
| didrocks | hum | 15:18 |
| cyphermox | oh | 15:18 |
| cyphermox | that's something new | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | wifi != wiki :) | 15:19 |
| didrocks | seb128: see! | 15:19 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: also ;) | 15:19 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's not me who typed wiki! | 15:19 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:19 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: so yeah, if I try to setup the right passphrase it doesn't work as well, still trying to connect | 15:19 |
| didrocks | seb128: :p | 15:19 |
| seb128 | ok, it's not friday and I should go back to work | 15:19 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: if I try to disconnect/choose again, it doesn't work | 15:19 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: file a bug against NM. in theory the apport hook rocks | 15:19 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: I'm forced to reboot | 15:19 |
| seb128 | let's keep opening bugs about gtk2 and gconf cleaning ;-) | 15:20 |
| kenvandine | seb128, did you see i fixed ubuntu-artwork too? | 15:20 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: so, basically, when I have that, I should apport-bug? | 15:20 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 15:20 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: the thing is that, when I have that, I have no network consequently :p | 15:20 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I did, very productive day ;-) | 15:20 |
| cyphermox | one for the wifi not connecting and stuff, and one for the applet showing a blank dialog | 15:20 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, now you just need to get the new gwibber in and you will have deserved your Dublin beers | 15:20 |
| kenvandine | very long day.... | 15:20 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:20 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: you can connect to wired :D | 15:20 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: it's in the same session | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | i won't be as productive today :) | 15:21 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: ok, letting that screwed, and the connected from wired and sending the report | 15:21 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, seems like you kept nothing to do for next week, you will have time for beers ;-) | 15:21 |
| * didrocks adds the discussion to tomboy as well | 15:21 | |
| cyphermox | didrocks: yeah. at least I'll get syslog too... I'm vaguely worried about kernel 3.0 majorly screwing with wifi drivers | 15:22 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: possible, I can try to boot in an older kernel. It seems racy anyway, I really have to reboot to get things ok | 15:22 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 15:22 |
| didrocks | I have it every morning systematically | 15:22 |
| cyphermox | :/ | 15:22 |
| didrocks | so, then, need to reboot once or twice | 15:22 |
| didrocks | not really nice :) | 15:23 |
| rodrigo_ | ugh, no permissions for g-desktop, seems it's not in the packageset | 15:24 |
| rodrigo_ | cjwatson, ^ | 15:24 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, gnome-desktop3 you mean? | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | can I have that in unabbreviated form please | 15:25 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | I don't know your jargon | 15:25 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, gnome-desktop3 | 15:25 |
| rodrigo_ | cjwatson, sorry, it's gnome-desktop3 | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | added | 15:26 |
| rodrigo_ | cjwatson, thanks! | 15:26 |
| didrocks | mterry: not loosing time to remove deja-dup from featured apps! :) | 15:44 |
| mterry | didrocks, it's a WI! Gotta get those down | 15:44 |
| didrocks | ;) | 15:46 |
| mterry | tremolux, heyo. Now that software-center updated to oneiric app-install-data, Deja Dup doesn't show up as I'd like. It shows up as "Backup" (like it does in the UI). But in the context of software-center, I'd prefer it show as "Deja Dup Backup Tool" so people know what they are getting. Is there a custom desktop key I can add? | 15:47 |
| tremolux | mterry: hey! so, did you change your desktop file? | 15:52 |
| mterry | tremolux, yes, to show as merely "Backup" (part of the effort of blending into the OS better) | 15:53 |
| tremolux | mterry: ah | 15:53 |
| mterry | tremolux, that works for once you have it installed, but in the context of software-center, where it is one of many apps, I figure something more explicit makes sense | 15:53 |
| tremolux | mterry: yep | 15:53 |
| mterry | tremolux, sort of like how "Calculator" should probably appear in U-S-C as "GNOME Calculator" or something | 15:53 |
| mterry | Maybe... | 15:54 |
| mterry | tremolux, is there a key for that already, or should I file a feature request? | 15:54 |
| tremolux | mterry: yeah, I don't think there is such a thing currently, I'll check to be sure | 15:55 |
| tremolux | mterry: so you changed X-GNOME-FullName to "Backup" ? | 15:59 |
| mterry | tremolux, well, I dropped it morelike. That key will be shown in the UI, so it wouldn't fulfill the goal of a different name in the UI and USC | 16:00 |
| tremolux | mterry: yeah | 16:00 |
| mterry | tremolux, I'd like something like X-Ubuntu-Software-Center-Name or X-Specific-Name or something | 16:01 |
| tremolux | mterry: yep, so there's not something like that now, but it's easy to implement | 16:01 |
| mterry | tremolux, OK, will file a bug | 16:02 |
| tremolux | mterry: sounds good! | 16:02 |
| jcastro | mterry: woo, bye synaptic! | 16:27 |
| mterry | jcastro, :) glad to see it gone finally | 16:27 |
| chrisccoulson | where's it gone? | 16:28 |
| mterry | chrisccoulson, a nice farm where it'll be taken care of | 16:28 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 16:28 |
| mterry | chrisccoulson, no, just off CD | 16:28 |
| james_w | you can't ever go visit it though | 16:28 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i just looked at oneiric-changes ;) | 16:29 |
| chrisccoulson | mterry, your changelog is missing "Added thunderbird to desktop-recommends" | 16:29 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 16:29 |
| mterry | chrisccoulson, were's my check? | 16:29 |
| chrisccoulson | if, by "check" you actually mean "guinness", then it's in dublin ;) | 16:29 |
| mterry | heh | 16:30 |
| seb128 | jcastro, mterry: synaptic is not off the CD yet | 16:36 |
| seb128 | somebody needs to make apturl stop using it first before that | 16:36 |
| mterry | ah... | 16:36 |
| seb128 | (pitti cleaned software-properties yesterday) | 16:36 |
| mpt | cyphermox, hi, did you get any feedback from the security team about the firewall settings? <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricDesktopNetworkEnhancementsSpec#Design> | 16:37 |
| cyphermox | mpt, sorry, no. let's do this now? | 16:37 |
| cyphermox | (or at the sprint?) | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, is anything other than ubufox pulling apturl on to the CD? | 16:38 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no | 16:38 |
| seb128 | it's all your fault again! | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh, pants :( | 16:38 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you are keeping synaptic on the CD! | 16:39 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess what i really need to do is to rewrite the plugin finder to use sessioninstaller | 16:39 |
| seb128 | which is ironic because you are the one who needs the space ;-) | 16:39 |
| chrisccoulson | but i hadn't really planned any time for it ;) | 16:39 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 16:39 |
| chrisccoulson | how big is synaptic? | 16:39 |
| chrisccoulson | as big as thunderbird? ;) | 16:39 |
| jcastro | chrisccoulson: you're going to end up paying out alot of guiness | 16:39 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 16:39 |
| seb128 | less than a mb | 16:39 |
| seb128 | so "not close" ;-) | 16:40 |
| jcastro | he's probably way more doomed than one meg | 16:40 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh, sessioninstaller, nice that you mention it | 16:40 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, bug #801202 is yours if you want to ;-) | 16:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 801202 in sessioninstaller "Should use gobject introspection (GTK3)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801202 | 16:40 |
| seb128 | just opened it today, grab it while it's fresh ;-) | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | so, the snaptic package is still around 700kB. i'm not sure what the is equivalent to on the CD, but it doesn't sound *that* insignificant | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i should probably spend some time at the rally next week to rid ubufox of apturl | 16:41 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, deb space ~= CD space usually | 16:42 |
| seb128 | they compress about the same | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | rather than making apturl not use synaptic | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, so, 700kB would be nice | 16:42 |
| seb128 | indeed | 16:42 |
| mpt | cyphermox, how can I help unblock you? | 16:42 |
| cyphermox | mpt, after all, care to look for the feedback about your design? I know I offered but this will cut the middle-man and I'm trying to finish up all I have to do with usb_modeswitch before the spring | 16:43 |
| mpt | chrisccoulson, would anything visible change about what happens when you click an <apt:whatever> link? | 16:43 |
| cyphermox | *sprint | 16:43 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: see, oneconf is better, it's only 23kB! :) | 16:43 |
| seb128 | mpt, hi | 16:43 |
| seb128 | mpt, do you know what's the status on bug #588200 | 16:44 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588200 in system-config-printer "Replace standard printing applet with indicator" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588200 | 16:44 |
| mpt | seb128, it's one of my work items to design that | 16:44 |
| seb128 | mpt, should that have a design component? | 16:44 |
| mpt | seb128, yes, I'll reassign it once I've written it up | 16:45 |
| seb128 | mpt, ok, thanks | 16:45 |
| seb128 | mpt, I just wanted to check that it didn't get forgotten on the way ;-) | 16:45 |
| mpt | Ah, I spy a problem | 16:46 |
| mpt | It's a "High" importance bug report linked to a "Low" importance blueprint | 16:46 |
| mpt | So the work item shows up as "Low" when perhaps it shouldn't | 16:46 |
| seb128 | mpt, well, we whitelisted the systray icon so I'm fine with "low" from a platform perspective | 16:47 |
| seb128 | mpt, but from a design perspective if you want to get no systray use it might be higher ;-) | 16:47 |
| chrisccoulson | mpt - clicking an apt: link opens software-center doesn't it? | 16:47 |
| chrisccoulson | firefox should just use the default handler for that | 16:47 |
| seb128 | what is apturl doing exactly? | 16:47 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, ubufox calls it to install browser plugins, but it calls apturl directly rather than relying on the default handler | 16:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, does it have its own ui to install those or what? | 16:48 |
| mpt | chrisccoulson, it's rather a nuisance that Firefox brings up the dialog asking you if it's okay to use something you (in general) have probably never heard of called "xdg-open" to open the link. Is there a way to whitelist it? | 16:49 |
| seb128 | I mean what does it do that sessioninstaller, aptdaemon and s-c don't do? | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, it doesn't have any UI for indicating progress (it relies on apturl to do that) | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | mpt, when does that happen? that sounds like a separate issue | 16:49 |
| mpt | chrisccoulson, sorry, I'm out of date. I just tried it again and it asked me to confirm launching Ubuntu Software Center. | 16:50 |
| mpt | cyphermox, ubuntu-hardened@? | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | mpt, yeah. it should display the correct name of the application now, as a nice side effect of fixing bug 727372 | 16:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 727372 in firefox "FF 4 requires both .desktop and gconf entries for url handlers" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727372 | 16:52 |
| mpt | chrisccoulson, next step to show the icon too? :-) | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | mpt, yeah, i planned to do that as well | 16:52 |
| mpt | neat | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | it's just not very high priority :/ | 16:52 |
| * mpt wonders why Thunderbird persists in thinking that Chromium is the default browser, when everything else recognizes that Firefox is | 16:54 | |
| chrisccoulson | mpt, which version of thunderbird? | 16:55 |
| mpt | chrisccoulson, 3.1.10 | 16:56 |
| chrisccoulson | mpt - i bet if you open gnome-default-application-properties, close it again and then restart thunderbird, it might start working ;) | 16:57 |
| chrisccoulson | i think that's probably because the old thunderbird still uses gnomevfs | 16:58 |
| chrisccoulson | although, i thought we fixed most cases of this already | 16:58 |
| chrisccoulson | in any case, the new thunderbird does things correctly | 16:58 |
| mpt | cyphermox, message sent | 17:15 |
| mpt | chrisccoulson, I'm impressed at how you use "I bet" and "might" in the same sentence, ;-) but no, that doesn't work | 17:22 |
| mpt | I'll try again after a logout | 17:23 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do you have a bug about tb indicator-messages integration? | 17:36 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, did that land in oneiric yet? | 17:36 |
| seb128 | just wondering if bug #367175 is a duplicate or should be closed | 17:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 367175 in thunderbird "thunderbird not using indicator applet" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367175 | 17:37 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i'm going to look at why the indicator doesn't work properly before i upload anything | 17:37 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:37 |
| * didrocks waves goodnight | 18:03 | |
| LLStarks | cjwatson, is upstart 1.3 waiting for anything? i think it hosed normal booting. | 19:07 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, do you still care about pygame? do you have any clue or opinion on bug #777417 | 19:56 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 777417 in pygame "Unity launcher doesn't work well with Python Pygame apps" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/777417 | 19:56 |
| seb128 | not sure if that's the sort of thing that should be fixed in pygame? | 19:57 |
| seb128 | does anybody know the name of an usb sniffer? | 20:20 |
| seb128 | i.e something to watch what's going on between a device and the computer when you connect it | 20:21 |
| kenvandine | seb128, not me... | 20:24 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, not really a desktopish topic but I got asked by somebody I know so I said I would ask around if somebody else knows ;-) | 20:25 |
| dobey | seb128: on linux, or on windows? | 20:27 |
| seb128 | linux if possible but if you have a name for windows that might still be useful ;-) | 20:28 |
| dobey | i installed one on windows a while back. let me reboot my laptop and see what it was | 20:28 |
| seb128 | dobey, thanks | 20:29 |
| dobey | ugh, why does lightdm not do the shutdown/restart stuff correctly | 20:29 |
| kenvandine | seb128, mind if i update eds to 3.1.2? | 20:30 |
| kenvandine | not sure why i considered touching the eds package... it FTBFS now :/ | 20:30 |
| dobey | heh | 20:30 |
| kenvandine | not my fault... it FTBFS without my tiny change :) | 20:30 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, does it? in any case you know what happen to people uploading packages nobody else want to deal with? :) | 20:31 |
| kenvandine | i know... :/ | 20:31 |
| kenvandine | but i need the ebook gir included in the package :) | 20:31 |
| dobey | seb128: snoopypro | 20:31 |
| seb128 | joke aside go for it, we said we would upgrade to GNOME 3.1 | 20:31 |
| seb128 | dobey, thanks | 20:31 |
| kenvandine | seb128, will do | 20:31 |
| * kenvandine wonders what will break :) | 20:32 | |
| dobey | the world | 20:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well if you update e-d-s you probably need to update evo with it ;-) | 20:32 |
| kenvandine | yeah... i know | 20:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, or see if cyphermox wants to do that for you in exchange for a beer | 20:32 |
| kenvandine | full of happy news here... | 20:32 |
| seb128 | he has been maintaining those for a bit and he's looking for one extra ack for his desktop upload | 20:33 |
| cyphermox | huh? | 20:33 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, want to update the evo stack to 3.1, get sponsoring by kenvandine and maybe get the missing ack for your uploads? ;-) | 20:33 |
| cyphermox | ah, yes, exchange | 20:33 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, eds fails to build now... i am trying to update it to 3.1.2 | 20:33 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, no, e-d-s, evo ... | 20:33 |
| seb128 | updating to the new unstable serie ;-) | 20:33 |
| cyphermox | yes, should be fun | 20:34 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, woot | 20:34 |
| cyphermox | (and has a risk of making evo work better) | 20:34 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, let me push my branch i started for eds | 20:34 |
| cyphermox | ok | 20:34 |
| kenvandine | i kind of urgently need it built with the ebook gir file included | 20:34 |
| cyphermox | ok | 20:34 |
| * kenvandine overheated his laaptop again trying to build it :) | 20:34 | |
| cyphermox | so you say e-d-s is already pretty much done right? | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, dunno ... maybe :) | 20:35 |
| * cyphermox welcomes a change from C.... project ;) | 20:35 | |
| kenvandine | i think it was about done building it overheated here... | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | i'll push my branch and you can take over :) | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 20:35 |
| cyphermox | it actually overheated? O.o? | 20:36 |
| kenvandine | yes... | 20:36 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, it might give you desktop upload rights as well, sorry about that stalling, I was sort of waiting for a few extra uploads to comment but there was not a lot of sponsoring recently | 20:36 |
| kenvandine | it happens everytime i build gtk too | 20:36 |
| cyphermox | seb128: it's alright. I haven't touched new packages lately, really busy with usb_modeswitch, as I mentioned a couple of times ;) | 20:36 |
| kenvandine | seb128, what is up with these .xz files on gnome.org? | 20:36 |
| kenvandine | i extracted it and recreated a .gz | 20:37 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, indeed ;-) | 20:37 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine, branch? | 20:37 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, don't | 20:37 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, we package .bz2 nowadays, .xz is the next generation ones | 20:37 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, just a sec, booting :) | 20:37 |
| cyphermox | seb128: it's almost done btw, down to 1 small function and main (but main is huge) | 20:37 |
| cyphermox | oh, mbiebl asked a few days ago on #nm; do we support .xz in the archive now? | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | lp:~ubuntu-desktop/evolution-data-server/ubuntu/ | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, ^^ | 20:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, GNOME IS (olav) is wanting to move to .xz to save mirror space, bandwith etc, so they switch from .gz .bz2 to .bz2 .xz this cycle | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | let me know when you need it sponsored | 20:38 |
| seb128 | they will do .xz only after 3.2 | 20:38 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, yes, I pinged around about this when GNOME said they would switch and cjwatson fixed the remaining bits before natty | 20:39 |
| seb128 | not sure it got real world confirmation but the bug was closed as fixed | 20:39 |
| kenvandine | seb128, does AutostartCondition work with gsettings? | 20:40 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, yes | 20:41 |
| kenvandine | i just found one place i hadn't removed gconf | 20:41 |
| seb128 | nautilus-autostart.desktop:AutostartCondition=GSettings org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons | 20:41 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ one example | 20:41 |
| kenvandine | awesome | 20:41 |
| kenvandine | thx | 20:41 |
| seb128 | yw | 20:41 |
| kenvandine | that will be the last gconf reference in gwibber :) | 20:42 |
| kenvandine | done! | 20:43 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 20:43 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 20:44 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine, do you have logs for the ftbfs? | 20:44 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/631367/ | 20:46 |
| kenvandine | that was 3.0.2.1 though | 20:46 |
| kenvandine | i think 3.1.2 builds | 20:46 |
| kenvandine | it was generating the docs when my laptop shutdown | 20:46 |
| cyphermox | oh, i see | 20:46 |
| kenvandine | so my branch might just work :) | 20:47 |
| cyphermox | I'll know soon, just getting the dependencies now | 20:47 |
| kenvandine | you confirm and update evolution too... and i'll sponsor them for you | 20:47 |
| cyphermox | ok | 20:47 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, I htink if there is an easy place in pygame to set the correct property, we should patch pygame | 21:05 |
| rickspencer3 | otherwise, we should provide some guidance to app authors for how to do it themselves | 21:06 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, but I don't 100% understand the problem | 21:06 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, ok, I think I was basically pointing it in case some cares enough to do that or to raise it to upstream if they know those guys | 21:07 |
| chrisccoulson | hi rickspencer3! | 21:08 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, the issue is basically that to match something on screen to its process or .desktop you need infos | 21:08 |
| seb128 | like xproperties or others | 21:08 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: ftbfs. groupwise was split out | 21:13 |
| kenvandine | ah | 21:14 |
| kenvandine | seb128, just marked the gsettings bug fix committed for gwibber :) | 21:14 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: just about done, I'll test build and see if evo still runs | 21:16 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, great! | 21:29 |
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| cyphermox | kenvandine: lp:~mathieu-tl/evolution-data-server/3.1.2 | 22:54 |
| cyphermox | I need to go have dinner now, but I should be back in a few hours to tackle evo and the others | 22:55 |
| cyphermox | huh, wow. I would have thought evo to run a little bit better even if it's a new unstable version | 22:57 |
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