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ibeardsleemorning00:02
Atamirahow you feeling today ibeardslee ?01:56
ibeardsleeAtamira: more alive ... although a wee big laggy03:02
Atamirabut on the mend, which is good03:02
ibeardsleeit would ahve been a bit easier if my Nook hadn't crashed last week03:03
Atamiralol03:11
Atamirapaperbooks are good then03:11
ibeardsleedefinitely one plus for them03:12
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chiltsanyone seen this before: http://trisquel.info/05:36
chiltsI just stumbled across it ... never heard of it before now :)05:36
chiltss'pose there are so many distributions these days05:36
ojwbyes, I've heard of it05:52
ajmitchwhat's new, special & different about it?05:53
ojwbnothing I could really see05:53
ojwbjust seems to be debian with the name filed off really05:54
ojwbhttp://packages.trisquel.info/ look familiar?05:54
ajmitchhttp://packages.trisquel.info/taranis/cli-mono/ <-- versions look familiar?05:55
ojwboh, I think it was mentioned on #debian-devel - someone pointed out they've patched it to hide the maintainer in changelogs05:55
ojwbajmitch: why would the versions on mono packages look familiar?05:56
ajmitchthe -0ubuntu105:56
ajmitchactually most of the versions on 'slaine' look identical to what's in ubuntu maverick, down to the debian revision05:56
ojwbah, i'll stop feeling offended then05:56
ajmitchcli/mono is just what I picked as an example because I'm familiar with the versions05:57
ojwbubuntu does at least acknowledge what it is derived from05:58
ajmitchburied deep in the website somewhere05:59
ojwbactually,these days there's an "Ubuntu and Debian" link on the front page06:00
ojwbthough it's hardly huge06:00
ajmitchah, down the bottom06:00
ajmitchI was looking under 'project'06:00
hadsWhat is it about the .info TLD that instantly makes things seem odd.06:01
ajmitchit looks cheap & tacky?06:01
ajmitchthough not as bad as .biz06:01
hadsThe ICANN has .cheezburger posts on Twitter the other day made me giggle.06:03
ajmitchthat's just painful06:03
hadsYeah, selling any old TLD seems like a silly idea06:05
ajmitchat $185k, it seems like a great idea for ICANN06:06
ajmitchthey're not really the ones running the root nameservers, so it's not going to be a huge cost to them06:06
hadsIndeed06:06
hadsMoney for nothing06:07
* ojwb wonders what the pretty much instant revenue from big companies grabbing their name in a new TLD is06:07
ojwbi guess it diminishes with each new one06:08
ajmitchthe new TLDs are meant to be registered trademarks, rather than generic TLDs06:08
ojwbso they're basically just selling domains at the top level, not TLDs in the current sense06:09
ojwbgo to http://microsoft./ rather than http://microsoft.com/06:09
ajmitchbig, expensive domains06:09
ajmitchhttp://microsoft./ likely won't work very well because people will forget the trailing .06:10
ojwbwell, not if you're a global company06:10
ajmitchthere's been a long discussion over this on the nanog mailing list this week06:10
ojwb$185K is probably comparable to the costs of another employee06:10
ojwbso multiple 3 saved characters by the number of employees by the number of times they type it...06:11
ojwbmultiply even06:11
ajmitchthough $185k is just the start06:13
ojwbhmm, I wonder how much setting up a new country costs06:15
mwhudsonturns out to be quite hard i think06:16
mwhudsonhttp://www.sealandgov.org/ etc06:17
ojwbseems likely, or we'd have more of them06:17
ibeardsleemorning20:36
snailmōrena koutou20:40
snailwith respect to these new domains, what I want is a mailing forwarding service in .xxx. I think I don't want to talk to anyone who has a problem with things in the .xxx domain, and as I'm an adult, it counts as an adult service20:42
chiltsmorning21:49
mwhudsonmorning21:53
thumpermorning22:24
chiltsanyone lunching in Wgtn?22:57
chiltsI know it's not yet time, but I was just thinking of my tummy :)22:57
ajmitchmorning22:58
Atamiramorning23:02
ibeardsleechilts: doable .. the rice and tuna in my drawer isn't that appealing .. although neither is spending more than the <>$5 that it costs23:15
chiltsnot sure what you can get out for $5, unless we go to the supermarket and get rice and tuna? :)23:16
chiltsbut I am keen23:17
chilts(on some kind of nurishment)23:17
ibeardsleeyeah .. happy to take a couple of steps up in budget23:17
chiltsany suggestions?23:18
chiltssee if fmarier wants to come as well?23:18
ibeardsleefmarier: ^^23:21
mwhudsonsubway is an alright option if you don't want to spend much money23:22
* mwhudson is working at home today though23:22
ibeardsleeif I'm going to wander out for lunch .. I'd aim a bit higher than that23:27

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