[00:02] <ibeardslee> morning
[01:56] <Atamira> how you feeling today ibeardslee ?
[03:02] <ibeardslee> Atamira: more alive ... although a wee big laggy
[03:02] <Atamira> but on the mend, which is good
[03:03] <ibeardslee> it would ahve been a bit easier if my Nook hadn't crashed last week
[03:11] <Atamira> lol
[03:11] <Atamira> paperbooks are good then
[03:12] <ibeardslee> definitely one plus for them
[05:36] <chilts> anyone seen this before: http://trisquel.info/
[05:36] <chilts> I just stumbled across it ... never heard of it before now :)
[05:36] <chilts> s'pose there are so many distributions these days
[05:52] <ojwb> yes, I've heard of it
[05:53] <ajmitch> what's new, special & different about it?
[05:53] <ojwb> nothing I could really see
[05:54] <ojwb> just seems to be debian with the name filed off really
[05:54] <ojwb> http://packages.trisquel.info/ look familiar?
[05:55] <ajmitch> http://packages.trisquel.info/taranis/cli-mono/ <-- versions look familiar?
[05:55] <ojwb> oh, I think it was mentioned on #debian-devel - someone pointed out they've patched it to hide the maintainer in changelogs
[05:56] <ojwb> ajmitch: why would the versions on mono packages look familiar?
[05:56] <ajmitch> the -0ubuntu1
[05:56] <ajmitch> actually most of the versions on 'slaine' look identical to what's in ubuntu maverick, down to the debian revision
[05:56] <ojwb> ah, i'll stop feeling offended then
[05:57] <ajmitch> cli/mono is just what I picked as an example because I'm familiar with the versions
[05:58] <ojwb> ubuntu does at least acknowledge what it is derived from
[05:59] <ajmitch> buried deep in the website somewhere
[06:00] <ojwb> actually,these days there's an "Ubuntu and Debian" link on the front page
[06:00] <ojwb> though it's hardly huge
[06:00] <ajmitch> ah, down the bottom
[06:00] <ajmitch> I was looking under 'project'
[06:01] <hads> What is it about the .info TLD that instantly makes things seem odd.
[06:01] <ajmitch> it looks cheap & tacky?
[06:01] <ajmitch> though not as bad as .biz
[06:03] <hads> The ICANN has .cheezburger posts on Twitter the other day made me giggle.
[06:03] <ajmitch> that's just painful
[06:05] <hads> Yeah, selling any old TLD seems like a silly idea
[06:06] <ajmitch> at $185k, it seems like a great idea for ICANN
[06:06] <ajmitch> they're not really the ones running the root nameservers, so it's not going to be a huge cost to them
[06:06] <hads> Indeed
[06:07] <hads> Money for nothing
[06:07]  * ojwb wonders what the pretty much instant revenue from big companies grabbing their name in a new TLD is
[06:08] <ojwb> i guess it diminishes with each new one
[06:08] <ajmitch> the new TLDs are meant to be registered trademarks, rather than generic TLDs
[06:09] <ojwb> so they're basically just selling domains at the top level, not TLDs in the current sense
[06:09] <ojwb> go to http://microsoft./ rather than http://microsoft.com/
[06:09] <ajmitch> big, expensive domains
[06:10] <ajmitch> http://microsoft./ likely won't work very well because people will forget the trailing .
[06:10] <ojwb> well, not if you're a global company
[06:10] <ajmitch> there's been a long discussion over this on the nanog mailing list this week
[06:10] <ojwb> $185K is probably comparable to the costs of another employee
[06:11] <ojwb> so multiple 3 saved characters by the number of employees by the number of times they type it...
[06:11] <ojwb> multiply even
[06:13] <ajmitch> though $185k is just the start
[06:15] <ojwb> hmm, I wonder how much setting up a new country costs
[06:16] <mwhudson> turns out to be quite hard i think
[06:17] <mwhudson> http://www.sealandgov.org/ etc
[06:17] <ojwb> seems likely, or we'd have more of them
[20:36] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:40] <snail> mōrena koutou
[20:42] <snail> with respect to these new domains, what I want is a mailing forwarding service in .xxx. I think I don't want to talk to anyone who has a problem with things in the .xxx domain, and as I'm an adult, it counts as an adult service
[21:49] <chilts> morning
[21:53] <mwhudson> morning
[22:24] <thumper> morning
[22:57] <chilts> anyone lunching in Wgtn?
[22:57] <chilts> I know it's not yet time, but I was just thinking of my tummy :)
[22:58] <ajmitch> morning
[23:02] <Atamira> morning
[23:15] <ibeardslee> chilts: doable .. the rice and tuna in my drawer isn't that appealing .. although neither is spending more than the <>$5 that it costs
[23:16] <chilts> not sure what you can get out for $5, unless we go to the supermarket and get rice and tuna? :)
[23:17] <chilts> but I am keen
[23:17] <chilts> (on some kind of nurishment)
[23:17] <ibeardslee> yeah .. happy to take a couple of steps up in budget
[23:18] <chilts> any suggestions?
[23:18] <chilts> see if fmarier wants to come as well?
[23:21] <ibeardslee> fmarier: ^^
[23:22] <mwhudson> subway is an alright option if you don't want to spend much money
[23:22]  * mwhudson is working at home today though
[23:27] <ibeardslee> if I'm going to wander out for lunch .. I'd aim a bit higher than that