[01:19] <bazhang> chroot to a second ubuntu install to upgrade system?
[02:08] <Corey> I could do without rinkukokiri's running commentary.
[02:33] <bazhang> ah, the "unity sucks" editorializing, yeah.
[02:49] <Madpilot> I still thing we should found #ubuntu-yes-we-know-you-hate-unity and ban-forward complainers to there
[02:50] <bazhang> heh
[02:59] <highvoltage> people have the right to complain.
[02:59] <highvoltage> (provided they're not abusive and they do nice things like file bugs or even try to fix them)
[03:02] <bazhang> disagree
[03:02] <bazhang> tons of editorializing has nothing to do with support
[03:02] <bazhang> and the sheer volume of "I hate unity, it suxorz!!!!1" is overwhelming at times
[03:04] <highvoltage> ouch, I didn't realise it's that bad
[03:05] <bazhang> #ubuntu is certainly not the place
[03:12] <Corey> Quite.  Even the sniping in passing gets old.
[03:13] <Corey> It's like if I suffixed something insulting every time I mentioned bazhang's name, may he fall down the stairs.
[03:13] <bazhang> clunk clunk clunk ouch!  HEY!!
[03:13] <Corey> Whatever beef I have with him can likely be addressed in other places than a primary support forum.
[03:15] <IdleOne> You have a beef with bazhang ?
[03:16] <Corey> IdleOne: For illustrative purposes only. :-)
[03:16] <bazhang> IdleOne, imminent kline coming!!11
[03:16] <IdleOne> I think you should punch bazhang in the face, for illustrative purposes only
[03:16]  * IdleOne gets popcorn
[03:17] <Corey> Now bazhang starts flooding #freenode, just because nobody would ever believe I wasn't the one who klined him. :-)
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[04:49] <bazhang> dont think thats funny at all
[04:49] <Madpilot> I'd say it's not funny in #ubuntu; outside #u I think it's hilarious.
[04:50] <bazhang> yep
[04:50] <bazhang> and that user normally stirs up issues in -ot as well
[05:08] <IdleOne> wasn't gulzar the one with the mono nonsense yesterday?
[05:09] <bazhang> and the first thing he said when he joined the previous day was : WHERE R DA GURLZ!!111"
[05:11] <Madpilot> classy.
[05:11] <bazhang> IdleOne, yep, he was ranting extensively on the evil of MONO in #ubuntu and -ot
[05:14] <Madpilot> that's a bit of a blast from the past. I haven't heard a good Mono-rant in months if not a year or more...
[05:15] <IdleOne> it wasn't any good
[05:16] <Madpilot> I should have put good in quotes :)
[05:16] <bazhang> before that was how to remove really tiny screws from his hdd, which was ontopic according to him...
[05:16] <bazhang> because he was going to install ubuntu on it
[05:17] <bazhang> got him in PM now
[05:17] <IdleOne> waste of time imo
[05:17] <Madpilot> sounds like a waste of electrons and time, ya
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[05:18] <bazhang> if it were not for the IP range, I'd say it was Jungli. same type of trollstyle
[05:33] <Flannel> LjL: ^^ is a false positive
[05:36] <IdleOne> bazhang: gulzar in #freenode trying to figure how to /ignore you. I assume.
[05:40] <bazhang> perhaps change the +q to a straight ban then? he has been told how to rectify this if he so chooses
[05:40] <IdleOne> fine by me.
[05:41] <bazhang> he has had zero on topic support issues from what I have seen.
[05:43] <IdleOne> Wondering if he is just ignorant about irc or if he is trolling
[05:43] <bazhang> he is asking talking about debian/mint in PM, and then arch in -ot
[05:43] <IdleOne> ok so he is trolling
[05:44] <bazhang> two different IPs these last two days
[06:43] <bazhang> interesting day, to say the least
[07:30] <Corey> bazhang: Indeed.
[07:30] <Tm_T> Linux4UnMe: hi, how can we help?
[07:38] <Tm_T> IdleOne: is he known?
[07:38] <IdleOne> 41119 in BT
[07:48] <Tm_T> thanks
[10:10] <ikonia> hello Linux4UnMe
[10:10] <Linux4UnMe> whats with the name ubuntu ops.... is this the same channel as it use to be? lol
[10:11] <ikonia> Linux4UnMe: this channel is the home of the ubuntu operator team for discussing issues within the ubuntu hcannel name space
[10:11] <Linux4UnMe> the normal ubuntu channel gone?
[10:11] <Linux4UnMe> i get this channel when I join #ubuntu
[10:11] <Linux4UnMe> oh
[10:11] <Linux4UnMe> nevermind
[10:11] <ikonia> Linux4UnMe: ahh no, one moment please I may be able to help you
[10:12] <ikonia> Linux4UnMe: I think you've been forwarded to this channel, give me 1 minute to check
[10:12] <Linux4UnMe> says i'm banned for some reason. lol ohwell
[10:12] <Linux4UnMe> it forwards me here instead
[10:12] <ikonia> Linux4UnMe: 2 minutes
[10:13] <ikonia> just getting the details
[10:13] <Linux4UnMe> not too worried.... probly got banned for doin somethin stupid. hah
[10:13] <ikonia> I'll find out for you in....
[10:14] <ikonia> fine then, I'll just change it to a ban
[12:19] <knome> i'm not sure if the nick 'dirtycookie
[12:19] <knome> ' is fine or not.
[12:19] <ikonia> I don't see a problem personally
[12:19] <knome> yeah, the behaviour seems to be okay
[13:06] <bazhang> gulzar ban evading, quelle surprise
[13:07] <ikonia> oh
[13:07] <ikonia> I didn't know he was banned
[13:08] <bazhang> yep
[13:08] <bazhang> whoa I missed the monitor channel with his *4* kicks
[13:09] <bazhang> he PM'd me to inform he was evading
[13:10]  * jussi prods at ikonia (PM)
[13:20] <gulzar> You are banned from #ubuntu. This power is with a normal user or an administrator.?
[13:20] <jussi> gulzar: 1 moment, Ill have a look why
[13:21] <jussi> @banlog gulzar
[13:23] <jussi> hrm.
[13:23] <gulzar> jussi: means?
[13:23] <jussi> gulzar: just a moment
[13:24] <jussi> gulzar: you seem to have a long history of bans in #ubuntu
[13:24] <gulzar> jussi: the problem was a fight with bazhang and a question about if there is any female user. That's it. I even said sorry to him and not to do such things but he is not listening.
[13:25] <jussi> bazhang: are you still about?=
[13:25] <gulzar> jussi: he is the only one to ban. I accept my mistake. But he is not listening
[13:25] <jussi> gulzar: it seems you have evaded the ban several times?
[13:26] <gulzar> jussi: sorry . I am new user and don't now much. I just closed the windows and typed /join #ubuntu
[13:26] <gulzar> jussi: if it is a mistake then I am SORRY!
[13:27] <jussi> gulzar: At the moment, Im not willing to un ban you. you need to wait until bazhang has had time to comment on this, as the full situation is not apparent to me currently.
[13:27] <gulzar> jussi: i even spoke to bazhang personally. And said sorry but he banned me permanently.
[13:27] <gulzar> jussi: OK
[13:27] <jussi> gulzar: I suggest you come back tomorrow, a bit earlier when bazhang is likely to be around
[13:28] <gulzar> jussi: one thing. who choose the operators?
[13:28] <jussi> gulzar: the Ubuntu IRC Council does
[13:28] <gulzar> jussi: Ok
[13:28] <gulzar> jussi:Thank You!
[13:28] <jussi> gulzar: yw
[13:45] <bazhang> just having dinner
[14:57] <topyli> nokia marketing lesson: elop says the n9 will be the last meego phone, no matter how well it sells
[14:58] <topyli> whenever you want to learn PR or marketing, take a good look at nokia and to something, *anything* else
[14:58] <topyli> s/to/do/
[15:26] <popey> oh dear topyli
[15:27] <topyli> popey: what did i do?
[15:28] <popey> "there’s no return to MeeGo, even if N9 would be a success"
[15:28] <popey> ☹
[15:28] <topyli> oh yeah
[15:28] <topyli> how utterly stupid
[15:29] <topyli> looks like i'm in the wrong channel again though :)
[15:30] <topyli> yeah he's basically making sure that the n9 won't sell at all
[15:55] <jussi> topyli: bah. thats not what they have been saying prior to this :(
[15:55] <jussi> :(
[16:05] <tsimpson> the deal with MS makes MeeGo a no-go
[17:15] <mneptok> MeeGone
[20:03] <chaddy> hi all, I'm banned from #ubuntu-offtopic and I have no idea why?
[20:03] <Corey> Checking.
[20:03] <Corey> 12:03:40 -!- Irssi: There does not appear to be anything preventing chaddy from joining/talking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:03] <Corey> Try again?
[20:03] <chaddy> ok, cheers
[20:04] <Corey> chaddy: Let me know if you still can't.
[20:04] <chaddy> 20:03 -!- Cannot join to channel #ubuntu-offtopic (You are banned)
[20:04] <chaddy> could be that I'm connecting from shellmix.com?
[20:04] <Corey> Okay, let me check something.
[20:04] <Corey> You've found a script bug, so there's that. :-)
[20:06] <Corey> Ah, your IP is banned.  The script can't peer through your cloak.
[20:06] <Corey> Let me fire up the bantracker and see what gives.
[20:06] <chaddy> ok
[20:07] <Corey> chaddy: You're connecting from a shellhost?
[20:07] <chaddy> yes
[20:07] <Corey> Looks like abuse was received a couple of weeks ago from it...
[20:07] <chaddy> shellmix.com, thought as much
[20:08] <Corey> I can pull the ban for you.
[20:08] <Corey> Just be aware that this kind of thing unfortuantely happens from shared IP space. :-/
[20:08] <chaddy> thank you very much
[20:08] <chaddy> will do
[20:08] <Corey> chaddy: You should be set.
[20:09] <chaddy> still saying I'm banned
[20:09] <Corey> Interesting.
[20:09] <Corey> Let me dig further. :-)
[20:12] <Corey> chaddy: One more time? :-)
[20:13] <chaddy> in like Flynn
[20:13] <chaddy> thanks muchly ;)
[20:13] <Corey> No worries!
[21:22] <maco> ubottu: help mark
[21:23] <Pici> I think something stronger than a mark is neeeded imo.
[21:23] <maco> well it seems a bit late now to kick
[21:25] <Pici> Interesting.
[21:25] <Pici> (bunch of k-lines)
[21:29] <Corey> Pici: Sorted.
[21:29] <Pici> Corey: darn ;)
[21:31] <LjL> shame, i thought maybe bloublou was k-lined for real
[21:31] <Corey> Wasn't him. :-)
[21:57] <Juest> hey why i am still banned damn
[21:59] <oCean> Hi Juest
[21:59] <oCean> I think you've discussed the issues extensively with ikonia last time, remember?
[22:00] <Juest> well yes
[22:00] <Juest> too bad is still not addressed
[22:00] <oCean> no, wait now
[22:01] <oCean> it was agreed that your ban could be removed, and your behaviour would be monitored closely
[22:01] <Juest> stiil not
[22:01] <Juest> again ban
[22:01] <Juest> it came back easily
[22:02] <oCean> not 'easily'
[22:02] <oCean> immediately after the ban removal you broke all the terms you agreed to
[22:02] <Juest> :(
[22:03] <oCean> I really don't think there is any intention in getting this resolved
[22:04] <oCean> Juest: so if there is nothing else you need from us now, you can part this channel
[22:04] <Juest> why not?
[22:04] <Juest> GRRRR
[22:04] <Corey> Juest: Because you can't seem to stay out of trouble.
[22:04] <Juest> well,
[22:04] <Juest> duh
[22:04] <Corey> Juest: And frankly, we've spent enough time dealing with you on this issue.
[22:05] <Juest> :(
[22:05] <Juest> buaaah
[22:05] <Juest> i need #ubunti
[22:05] <Juest> i need #ubuntu*
[22:05] <Corey> Juest: You should have thought of that before trolling it.
[22:05] <Corey> Please /part.
[22:06] <Juest> GRRRRRRR
[22:06] <Juest> I AM MAD
[22:06] <Juest> really grrrr
[22:13] <hypatia> :/
[22:46] <mneptok> i always make it a habit to punch my plumber in the face while they work. car mechanics, too. it's fun to start fires in the repair shop while they work on your car.
[22:47] <Corey> mneptok: You don't want to know what I do to my doctor while he's examining me.
[22:50] <hypatia> o_0
[22:52] <mneptok> Corey: with MDs, i just throw whatever money i have in the air as a gesture of understanding
[22:53] <mneptok> heh. Corey messes with his doctor only to find later a metal ID tag has been pierced through his ear.
[22:53] <mneptok> "Why am I banned?"
[23:14] <bazhang> dinkdink posted a lmgtfy to rick astley. should be a permaban
[23:15] <Corey> bazhang: I'd boot.
[23:15] <bazhang> Corey, already far in the scroll window and oCean and I already warned him not to
[23:16] <IdleOne> bazhang: note Dink and dinkdink
[23:18] <bazhang> IdleOne, one is cloaked, one is not; any connection other than the "dink" part?
[23:18] <IdleOne> only connection I see but just in case
[23:18] <IdleOne> to bad we are not allowed to ask staff to look threw cloaks for us
[23:19] <IdleOne> I've tried :/
[23:21] <kloeri> that's backwards
[23:21] <kloeri> you're allowed to ask but staff isn't allowed to break privacy
[23:21] <mneptok>  /m IdleOne hv hack scrpt u can c thrgh cloaks lol dcc? rofl.
[23:22] <mneptok> mv mnepolo.png freehack.pl
[23:23] <IdleOne> kloeri: yeah that
[23:23] <bazhang> delete that picture! quick!
[23:23] <IdleOne> mneptok: u haz, u shd snd
[23:25] <mneptok> trd u fr sum vwls
[23:28] <Corey> IdleOne: What's the question?
[23:29] <IdleOne> Corey: hypothetically if I ask what the ip behind @member/pici is
[23:29] <IdleOne> you will tell me ?
[23:30] <Pici> I will
[23:30] <Corey> IdleOne: No, but if there's a question of ban evading via cloak I could definitely take a gander.
[23:30] <IdleOne> Corey: that is good to know.
[23:30] <Corey> IdleOne: I also run a script that tells me what other nicks have been seen from a particular host.
[23:31] <Corey> Uses no staffer powers, but is insanely useful for such things.
[23:31] <Corey> That stuff, I can tell you.
[23:31] <IdleOne> yeah, I have that script also when I run irssi
[23:31] <IdleOne> it is a nifty script, also the bansearch script is nice
[23:32] <Corey> IdleOne: I want to get a bansearch-pro working that uses staffer powers.
[23:33] <IdleOne> surprised it doesn't already
[23:33] <IdleOne> unless the author is keeping it for himself