[08:04] <dpm> good morning all
[08:08] <andrejz> good morning dpm
[08:14] <dpm> morning andrejz
[08:30] <RawChid> Good morning
[08:32] <andrejz> morning RawChid
[13:10] <serfus> there is Bug #784843 but i can't find the word archive anywhere, not in launchpad and not when i bzr-ed soundconverter
[13:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 784843 in soundconverter (Ubuntu) "translation issue [Swedish] (affects: 1) (heat: 96)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784843
[14:35] <dpm> serfus, have you looked at the .glade file as well?
[14:44] <serfus> dpm, i have now and it's not there as well
[14:48] <kelemengabor> serfus: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/soundconverter/oneiric/view/head:/data/soundconverter.glade#L116
[14:50] <kelemengabor> but this software is not in main, so we can't do much
[14:53] <serfus> kelemengabor, this is 'Clear List' but where is 'Archive' ?
[15:04] <kelemengabor> serfus: no idea, but the question was not about that :P
[15:54] <serfus> kelemengabor, right, so do you have an idea what could be the problem?
[16:00] <kelemengabor> serfus: the po file is obsolete
[16:00] <kelemengabor> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/soundconverter/oneiric/view/head:/po/sv.po#L556
[16:00] <kelemengabor> translation is there, but not used
[16:00] <kelemengabor> however, tunning intltool-update puts it back to use
[16:00] <kelemengabor> erm, running
[17:38] <andrejz> hello dpm! i have a question about ddtp. are those translations shared upstream?
[17:40] <dpm> andrejz, I'll be back in a few minutes, on the phone right now
[17:40] <andrejz> sure tyt
[17:59] <kelemengabor> andrejz: AFAIK, not entirely
[17:59] <dpm> andrejz, we've got the technical means to send them back upstream, but right now we're not doing it afaik. You might be familiar with Nightmonkey https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nightmonkey, which is the project that allows translating them easily and also sending it to upstream. I'm not sure abour the status of nightmonkey right now, but kelemengabor might know more
[18:00] <kelemengabor> last time I checked, Debian was able to import the translations that are exported to branches, but not automatically
[18:00] <kelemengabor> http://ddtp.debian.net/ddtss/index.cgi/hu
[18:00] <kelemengabor> for example, this shows quite a few suggestions from rosetta, but they are not recent
[18:02] <kelemengabor> dpm: Nightmonkey does not send it upstream - Ubuntus DDTP translations are exported to branches, and Debian can pick them up, altough they don't really do it
[18:02] <andrejz> ok cool, this nightmonkey is awesome stuff
[18:03] <kelemengabor> indeed :)
[18:03] <andrejz> is oneiric also planned to be added soon in nightmonkey?
[18:03] <andrejz> since this is the one i am translating right now
[18:05] <andrejz> hm, i am wondering what is the lag here
[18:05] <kelemengabor> probably yes, I'll ping someone ;)
[18:05] <andrejz> since on the wiki page it's stated nightmonkey updates every day
[18:05] <kelemengabor> it should
[18:06] <andrejz> but on the other hand it shows a string is untranslated, even though it was translated on 15.06.2011 (8 days ago)
[18:06] <kelemengabor> if not, that's a bug
[18:07] <andrejz> if you choose Natty, Slovenian, Packages in software center, main and Not translated
[18:07] <andrejz> part 3 of gbrainy is specified as untranslated, but it is
[18:08] <andrejz> also, kelemengabor: thanks for enabling oneiric
[18:09] <kelemengabor> andrejz: its not done yet... and the guy who developed it is quite busy nowadays :(
[18:09] <andrejz> ok, what about the delay? you believe i should report a bug?
[18:13] <kelemengabor> andrejz: I think so, the branch has not updated sl.po this whole month
[18:14] <kelemengabor> did you translated that string before the last update, that is, before 06-21?
[18:15] <andrejz> yes on 06-15, says launchpad
[18:15] <andrejz> it's this string - https://translations.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu/natty/+pots/ddtp-ubuntu-main/sl/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=%20%2A%20Logic%20Puzzles%3A%20games%20designed%20to%20challenge%20your%20reasoning%20and
[18:15] <kelemengabor> okay, then something is wrong with the export
[18:16] <kelemengabor> could you go ahead? this way please: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu :)
[18:17] <andrejz> or is it this one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ddtp-lp-html?
[18:18] <kelemengabor> no, that's the nightmonkey project
[18:19] <andrejz> aha, ok
[18:19] <kelemengabor> the problem must be with the export
[18:19] <kelemengabor> for example, here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mvo/ddtp-ubuntu/ddtp-natty/revision/202#main/es.po
[18:19] <kelemengabor> es.po was exported, and it contains a new translation for libcommons-pool-java
[18:20] <andrejz> i see, but no sl.po
[18:20] <kelemengabor> if you open Nightmonkey for Spanish, Natty, main, All packages and search for libcommons-pool-java, you see it is translated
[18:21] <kelemengabor> according to the monkey, so processing the exported files works
[18:21] <kelemengabor> but it seems somehow not all languages are exported
[18:27] <andrejz> hope it's ok and clear
[18:27] <andrejz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu/+bug/801261
[18:27] <andrejz> brb
[18:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 801261 in ddtp-ubuntu "Not all languages are exported correctly (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]