| shauno | wow. finally got around to watching that terry pratchet right-to-die piece. heavy stuff :/ | 00:59 |
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| cola_kid | #ubuntu | 03:00 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 07:16 |
| popey | Morning | 07:53 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | moo popey | 07:53 |
| popey | right thats the wife and kids packed out the door | 07:53 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Early? | 07:53 |
| nigelb | Morning | 07:54 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Mine are still screaming and shouting at each other ;-) | 07:54 |
| popey | heh | 07:54 |
| popey | nah, 8am is usual leaving time | 07:54 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Hi nigelb how are you? | 07:54 |
| popey | Wifey has a new job at the school where the kids go, which makes life a lot easier :D | 07:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Handy. | 07:55 |
| popey | means I pretty much never have to do the school run again | 07:56 |
| nigelb | TheOpenSourcerer: Just getting to start a busy busy day :) | 08:03 |
| nigelb | And ew, I'm going to be working on windows servers. | 08:03 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Ewww. | 08:06 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | nasty | 08:06 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Prepare for lots of reboots then ;-) | 08:06 |
| popey | we have exactly one app that runs on windows at work | 08:06 |
| popey | it's the biggest pile of crud ever | 08:06 |
| nigelb | I already terminated the isntance once. | 08:07 |
| nigelb | Recreating now. | 08:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I just heard about Ross Gardler and Steve Lee's new venture. | 08:07 |
| popey | who? | 08:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2011/06/20/all-change-please-situation-normal/ | 08:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | OSS-Wiatch | 08:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Watch | 08:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Cheap tablets are coming... http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/archos-unveils-bare-bones-arnova-7-android-tablet-priced-at-99/ | 08:13 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 08:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | morning brobostigon | 08:18 |
| brobostigon | morning TheOpenSourcerer | 08:18 |
| * brobostigon has coffee number 1. | 08:19 | |
| oly | hi, anyone able to tell me if you still need the ubuntu alternative cd for raid setups in the latest iteration. | 08:29 |
| popey | you do | 08:29 |
| popey | well | 08:29 |
| popey | technically you don't | 08:29 |
| popey | you can manually setup raid from the live cd | 08:29 |
| popey | but ubiquity doesnt prompt for it | 08:29 |
| oly | oh, did not know that using fstab ? | 08:29 |
| popey | using mdadm | 08:29 |
| popey | boot from live cd, open terminal, sudo apt-get install mdadm | 08:30 |
| oly | fstab, what am i saing i mean fdisk | 08:30 |
| popey | fdisk and mdadm, yes | 08:30 |
| oly | aha, cool never thought about doing it that way useful to know :) | 08:30 |
| popey | i have done it that way before | 08:31 |
| popey | once you have the array up, then start ubiquity and do the install onto it | 08:31 |
| oly | will save downloading another iso at least, cheers most helpful as usual :) | 08:31 |
| popey | np :D | 08:32 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:38 |
| popey | suppose I better take this hire car back | 08:38 |
| bigcalm | popey: make a few doughnuts along the way | 08:52 |
| popey | hah | 08:53 |
| bigcalm | Isn't that what hire cars are for? | 08:53 |
| popey | The car we bought for wifey is an ex-hire car | 08:53 |
| popey | when she heard that she instantly went off it | 08:54 |
| bigcalm | I would too | 08:54 |
| popey | meh | 08:54 |
| popey | you can't know what kind of driver the person who had the car before you is like | 08:54 |
| popey | whilst thats x1000 when it's a hire car, it's the same thing | 08:54 |
| bigcalm | No, but there's more chance of a hire car being treated badly | 08:54 |
| AlanBell | then it will have had a variety of drivers, not one boy racer | 08:55 |
| popey | yeah | 08:55 |
| popey | swings and roundabouts | 08:55 |
| popey | or roundabouts and sharp corners | 08:55 |
| bigcalm | This is why I drive a 407 estate. Not likely to be driven by a boy racer ;) | 08:55 |
| popey | heh | 08:56 |
| popey | well, this is only a corsa | 08:56 |
| popey | which wifey will have with the kids | 08:56 |
| popey | and means I get my volvo back! | 08:56 |
| bigcalm | I learnt to drive in one | 08:57 |
| popey | my volvo needs some tidying up | 08:58 |
| popey | scrapes and scratches | 08:58 |
| bigcalm | Due to your wife's driving? | 08:58 |
| popey | not exclusively | 08:59 |
| popey | it has a big scratch/scuff on one side because she scraped it against a roof support in a car park | 08:59 |
| popey | and the petrol flap came off | 09:00 |
| popey | although that came off when I drove to Lugradio live about 3 years ago :D | 09:01 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 09:01 |
| * popey buys one on ebay whilst he thinks about it | 09:02 | |
| bigcalm | My car has 2 scrapes on it, both due to multistory carparks | 09:02 |
| bigcalm | There is a carpark next to The Imperial (chinese buffet) in Woverhampton (lugradians will have visited it many times). NEVER go there in a long car with poor turning circle! | 09:03 |
| ging | i was going to say how the hell do you scrap a roof support with the side, but i'm guessing that means a pillar not a beam | 09:03 |
| popey | I know it well | 09:03 |
| popey | "roof support" | 09:04 |
| popey | yeah, pillar | 09:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | My Volvo is rather scratched and dented - mostly by SWMBO | 09:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | And we are missing one rather large gatepost. Also due to SWMBO | 09:05 |
| popey | also, need to sort the gearbox issue I have with it | 09:05 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | On a different note - my eldest son goes to Charterhouse School this afternoon. | 09:05 |
| popey | Godalming? | 09:05 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yep. | 09:05 |
| popey | I know it | 09:06 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Big place# | 09:06 |
| popey | round the corner from some relatives | 09:06 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Since 1611. | 09:06 |
| popey | They haven't been there as long as that | 09:06 |
| AlanBell | cricket or something? | 09:06 |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 09:06 |
| * popey rummages on the volvo forums | 09:07 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It's year of Chemistry apparently. And 8 kids from my son's choll were selected to and spend an afternoon there. | 09:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | s/choll/school | 09:07 |
| popey | TheOpenSourcerer: is yours a D5? | 09:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://www.charterhouse.org.uk/ | 09:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | V70 2.4Turbo | 09:08 |
| AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: don't let popey nick your petrol cap | 09:08 |
| popey | heh | 09:08 |
| popey | wont fit anyway | 09:08 |
| popey | mine's diesel | 09:08 |
| popey | TheOpenSourcerer: auto or manual? | 09:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Blimey: http://www.charterhouse.org.uk/admissions/Fees.aspx | 09:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Auto popey | 09:08 |
| popey | does yours ever slip when changing gear? | 09:09 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | no | 09:09 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | And you can't have my gearbox | 09:09 |
| popey | going from 1st to 2nd mine revs up like it's in nutral | 09:09 |
| popey | then clonks into gear | 09:09 |
| bigcalm | Eugh | 09:09 |
| popey | only from 1st to 2nd | 09:09 |
| bigcalm | Gearboxes are costly even to look at, let alone fix | 09:10 |
| popey | well, i have seen some posts that suggest it's easily fixed sometimes | 09:10 |
| popey | like via gearbox fluid change | 09:10 |
| popey | or going through the gears 30 times or so | 09:10 |
| popey | (sat still) | 09:10 |
| * popey starts a new thread on the volvoforums | 09:12 | |
| * popey hates forums | 09:12 | |
| popey | actually, will post this after I take hire car back | 09:13 |
| MooDoo | morning al | 09:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | morning MooDoo | 09:13 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 09:14 |
| bigcalm | I dislike them as well. But I had to join one last night becuase the freenode channel were very off putting. I forget that not all channels are as nice as this one | 09:14 |
| MooDoo | TheOpenSourcerer: brobostigon morning | 09:14 |
| popey | http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?p=933190 | 09:18 |
| popey | there we go | 09:18 |
| oimon | i know little about cars, but sounds like sloppy gear changes have left 2nd gear a bit worn down, so it can't exchange properly? | 09:19 |
| * popey shrugs | 09:20 | |
| popey | hehe, hire company just called asking when I was bringing the car back | 09:21 |
| popey | suppose I'd best get dressed then :D | 09:21 |
| oimon | i complained of a similar issue (except mine is a stiff 2nd gear) to my knowledgable friend and he told me 2nd gear is always the one with problems. people often don't exchange the clutch fully between 1st and 2nd | 09:22 |
| popey | its an auto | 09:22 |
| oimon | oh lol | 09:22 |
| popey | :D | 09:22 |
| popey | yes, "lol" ☹ | 09:22 |
| nigelb | popey: Is that why you have a rental for now? | 09:23 |
| nigelb | s/rental/hire | 09:23 |
| popey | no | 09:23 |
| popey | rental is because wifeys car got trashed | 09:24 |
| popey | by a neighbour | 09:24 |
| * oimon is having bopiler repaired today...£400 :( | 09:24 | |
| popey | ouchh | 09:24 |
| nigelb | popey: what!?! | 09:24 |
| popey | pulled out in front of me | 09:24 |
| popey | we collided | 09:24 |
| popey | wrote my car off | 09:24 |
| nigelb | ouch :( | 09:24 |
| popey | hey ho, it happens :D | 09:25 |
| MooDoo | popey: all to often :( | 09:25 |
| oimon | half-way into the road seems to be the new give way line in london | 09:26 |
| oimon | hey ho i'll just pull out into the road and look when i get into the middle | 09:26 |
| danfish | morning | 09:28 |
| dwatkins | hiya | 09:28 |
| dwatkins | glad you're ok, popey | 09:29 |
| * bigcalm writes an email to a client called Lala and can't help but giggle | 09:29 | |
| danfish | to quote Prof Brian Cox - "things can only get better" | 09:29 |
| oimon | once my sister had a client called Mrs Tomato | 09:29 |
| popey | Dell have someone called Demis Dememis | 09:33 |
| popey | (say it aloud) | 09:33 |
| popey | sounds like Denace the menace to me | 09:33 |
| bigcalm | :) | 09:33 |
| oimon | i wonder if he's friends with the dell SAN guy i met called Del Lunn | 09:34 |
| popey | ttfn | 09:34 |
| oimon | hope popey turns off the webcam while he gets dressed | 09:35 |
| brobostigon | lol | 09:35 |
| bigcalm | popey gets dressed in the garden? | 09:36 |
| oimon | bigcalm: i didn't want to check lol | 09:36 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone used a synology box? trying to install stuff but dont know the command :/ | 09:42 |
| dwatkins | http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.php/Basic_commands_to_get_around_the_Synology_Box_using_the_CLI might help, dogmatic69 - although I imagine you've seen this already | 09:44 |
| dogmatic69 | ah thanks, no ive not | 09:44 |
| dogmatic69 | just been looking at the terminal after <tab><tab> :) | 09:44 |
| dogmatic69 | hmm, they say ipkg ... if its installed already :/ | 09:46 |
| dogmatic69 | can i install apt-get ? | 09:46 |
| dogmatic69 | or should i use something else maybe | 09:50 |
| oimon | http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/23/the-acorn-a7000-portable-mod-is-what-your-macbook-looks-like-in/ | 10:02 |
| dogmatic69 | man, this is one lean version of linux :/ | 10:05 |
| dogmatic69 | no installer, download yum, no make, download make, no c compiler ... | 10:05 |
| oimon | didn't daubers do a 30 days with windows...nothing updated since day 2...getting worried :D | 10:10 |
| MooDoo | oimon: i'm sure he's doing fine :) | 10:10 |
| DJones | oimon: Probably still got a BSOD | 10:10 |
| MartijnVdS | he was assimilated | 10:10 |
| oimon | if he came from KDE4 he might be OK | 10:10 |
| oimon | just don't click on anything | 10:10 |
| gord | i'm going to do 30 days with a ZX Spectrum one day | 10:11 |
| MooDoo | oimon: windows isn't that bad :) | 10:11 |
| MooDoo | lol | 10:11 |
| DJones | zx spectrum, 30 days of Manic Miner :) | 10:11 |
| oimon | MooDoo: i find it a productivity nightmare | 10:11 |
| * popey returns | 10:11 | |
| oimon | and that's without my friends calling me about the latest viruses | 10:12 |
| MooDoo | oimon: each to their own i gues | 10:12 |
| danfish | nah - daubers is now on the #windows-fanbois channel ;) | 10:12 |
| oimon | ihihihih | 10:12 |
| MooDoo | oimon: i'm sorry but anyone that gets a virus is either not runing the latest definition or is visiting some site and not watching what they are clicking on...... | 10:12 |
| MooDoo | ner ner ner ner ner | 10:12 |
| oimon | mcafee doesn't detect the viruses that most people seem to get | 10:13 |
| MooDoo | danfish: fanbois? never seen it called that before :) | 10:13 |
| oimon | had to assist a friend remotely to fix "Win 7 Antispyware 2012 " which installed itself on a pc and didn't allow any use until it gets registered with a CC | 10:14 |
| DJones | oimon: I've seen that as well, its a pig to get rid of | 10:15 |
| MooDoo | oimon: DJones yeah had to do it last week, registry hack in the end to fix it | 10:15 |
| MooDoo | but at the end of the day it was my friends fault for clicking links he shouldn't of..... | 10:16 |
| MooDoo | i did try to put ubuntu on his machine though lol he spotted me putting the cd in ;) | 10:16 |
| dogmatic69 | ok, if i need gcc to install make, and gcc needs a compiler to install... how do i install gcc? | 10:27 |
| oimon | dogmatic69: ah, reminds me of CS101 | 10:31 |
| dogmatic69 | pita | 10:31 |
| * oimon glances over at the compilers book on the shelf | 10:31 | |
| * dogmatic69 has given up | 10:31 | |
| MooDoo | dogmatic69: don't give up | 10:32 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | dogmatic69: Read the linuxfromscatch.org book to find out how to make a clean compiler from a compiler. | 10:32 |
| dogmatic69 | :S | 10:32 |
| MooDoo | dogmatic69: can't you just install build-essential? | 10:32 |
| dogmatic69 | MooDoo: i was trying to get yum on | 10:33 |
| dogmatic69 | how would i install that? | 10:33 |
| dogmatic69 | only useful command i have is wget | 10:33 |
| MooDoo | install yum? or build-essential | 10:33 |
| dogmatic69 | well yum requires make, which requires gcc, which requires gcc .. | 10:34 |
| dogmatic69 | see the problem :D | 10:34 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | sudo apt-get install build-essential | 10:34 |
| dogmatic69 | lol | 10:34 |
| MooDoo | so install build-essential and then install yum after | 10:34 |
| dogmatic69 | its not ubuntu | 10:34 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Ahh | 10:34 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Then read LFS. | 10:34 |
| MooDoo | dogmatic69: what os then? | 10:35 |
| dogmatic69 | its a synology box | 10:35 |
| diplo | redhat/centos doesn't have a build-essential package | 10:35 |
| diplo | So would have to download all seperately | 10:35 |
| MooDoo | ah | 10:35 |
| dogmatic69 | its linux, some custom stripped down arm version i think | 10:35 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | You need what is called a toolchain. | 10:35 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | There are some recursions in that there toolchain | 10:35 |
| MartijnVdS | There's gcc in them there toolchains! | 10:43 |
| * BigRedS swears at sorbs | 10:50 | |
| bigcalm | Found that I can add my own DNS settings to the android tablet if I tell it to use a static IP address. Though I don't really want to run a DNS server just for the tablet :( | 10:51 |
| nigelb | dogmatic69: there's always a compiler | 10:56 |
| nigelb | not necesssarily gcc. | 10:56 |
| nigelb | but getting it to work might involve hair pulling | 10:57 |
| oimon | you can probably stick debian on those synology boxes | 10:57 |
| nigelb | We recently worked with SCO Unixware. | 10:57 |
| nigelb | It was like a blast in the past. | 10:58 |
| BigRedS | We had to build a Woody box the other day :) | 11:00 |
| popey | Wooodeeeeeeee! | 11:13 |
| czajkowski | Aloha | 11:14 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: hello | 11:17 |
| nigelb | After SCO suing everyone (wasn't it them?) you'd thin they have good enough packages/software. | 11:17 |
| nigelb | They have a really old UI, 1993 versions of perl, and such madness. | 11:17 |
| BigRedS | nah, they've been famed as a lawyer rather than a software outfit for about a decade | 11:19 |
| AlanBell | they just gave up and ran it into the ground, whilst trying to make as much legal mischief as they could on the way down | 11:20 |
| AlanBell | and still not quite entirely dead | 11:20 |
| JamesTait | Morning all. :) | 11:31 |
| JamesTait | Can anyone suggest a good VPS provider? I want to get my e-mail back online if nothing else. Bytemark seem to fit the bill, but I'm interested in other recommendations too. | 11:32 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Bytemark or Bitfolk. | 11:32 |
| MooDoo | memset | 11:32 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | For a small VPS either are fine. Bitfolk probably a bit cheaper. | 11:32 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | We also use Hetzner | 11:33 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | for big boxes. | 11:33 |
| davmor2 | morning all | 11:33 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: morning | 11:34 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Sunday dude, I hope you know a pub that does decent food in bakewell :D | 11:34 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: i'll ask the father in law.....he's been around those parts for years....but yes there are a few :) | 11:35 |
| JGJones | Hetzner - they're cheap but don't rely on them for support | 11:36 |
| AlanBell | it is fully automatic, never spoken to anyone | 11:38 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: nice | 11:38 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: hmph why aren't you in my phone contacts list....how very dare you | 11:40 |
| * davmor2 prods czajkowski to remind her it's morning :) | 11:40 | |
| * czajkowski glares at davmor2 | 11:40 | |
| MooDoo | davmor2: czajkowski double poke..... | 11:40 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I haven't put my number on FB or twitter | 11:40 |
| jpds | JamesTait: Linode's an option. | 11:40 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: that explains it then :D | 11:40 |
| DJones | About time, one down, countless thousands still to go http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13887152 | 11:41 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: oi! | 11:41 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: i was being gentle...... | 11:41 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: think i'll tease czajkowski all day about eating bakewell pudding all weekend :p | 11:41 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I am now :D | 11:42 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: No play fair, tease her about plotting her demise when we get together :D | 11:43 |
| BigRedS | I've just come across the 'rename' tool. It's awesome | 11:43 |
| JamesTait | TheOpenSourcerer: Ah, bitfolk was the other I was trying to remember. | 11:44 |
| davmor2 | for some unknown reason I've got the whole gnome rawness experience going on, on my desktop this morning | 11:44 |
| JamesTait | jpds: I looked at linode, but they seem to be more-or-less identical to Bytemark. | 11:44 |
| sohaib | ? | 11:50 |
| AlanBell | ! | 11:51 |
| JamesTait | Ah well, bitfolk are out of capacity, so Bytemark it is. | 11:51 |
| AlanBell | wow | 11:51 |
| JamesTait | I always forget - is Bitfolk the one run by "the Alans" or something similar, who were at LRL and OggCamp? | 11:52 |
| popey | JamesTait: Bitfolk is run by Andy Smith | 11:53 |
| AlanBell | not us | 11:53 |
| AlanBell | Andy does turn up to lots of stuff | 11:53 |
| sohaib | Hey guys, can anyone help me please? | 11:53 |
| AlanBell | sohaib: sure, ask a question | 11:53 |
| JamesTait | I get them and Bytemark mixed up - but Bitfolk does sound familiar, I'm sure they were at one of the events I went to. | 11:54 |
| sohaib | thanks AlanBell | 11:54 |
| dutchie | JamesTait: they sponsored both oggcamps | 11:55 |
| sohaib | AllanBell: I have just installed latest ubuntu now when i right click to an ntfs partition and select permission tab, it says permissions could not be determined for that partition. | 11:55 |
| dutchie | and andy was at both | 11:55 |
| JamesTait | dutchie: That'll be it then. | 11:55 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: i'm using memset, they do appear cheaper....at first glance | 11:57 |
| AlanBell | sohaib: yeah, ntfs permissions are going to be for users that Ubuntu doesn't know about | 11:57 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo: Oh, I thought that was a tool or a system call - I didn't realise it was in response to my question. :) | 11:58 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: lol sorry i should of been more clear :) memset.com | 11:59 |
| sohaib | AllnBell: what should i do then? because i want to create a home network of uuntu and MS and i am afraid if anyone will be able o access those shared ntfs partitions | 11:59 |
| AlanBell | !tab| sohaib | 11:59 |
| lubotu3 | sohaib: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. | 11:59 |
| JamesTait | Thanks folks - I knew I could rely on you. :) | 12:00 |
| AlanBell | sohaib: so you have a drive in an ubuntu machine with an NTFS partition on it? | 12:00 |
| AlanBell | sohaib: or an ubuntu machine accessing a windows share over the network? | 12:00 |
| sohaib | AllanBell: yes, i have two ntfs partitions which i want to share over a network. no, ubuntu machine is not accessing a windows share over the network. | 12:02 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | sohaib: To control individual user access I would probably use Samba (Windows Networking) instead of NTFS mounted shares | 12:03 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Then you do not need NTFS and can use EXT4 partitions on your server. | 12:03 |
| AlanBell | yeah, not sure why you want NTFS partitions | 12:04 |
| sohaib | TheOpenSourcerer: i am going to use Samba for home network setup but the reason is i have lots of data to be shared on ntfs partitions so i want them to share over the network. | 12:06 |
| BigRedS | if you're sharing over the network, it doesn't matter what the filesystem is | 12:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I'm unsure of the capabilities of NTFS for user-based block allocation. EXT4 is a superior file system http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/230527/ubuntu_linux_day_16_ext4_vs_ntfs.html | 12:08 |
| AlanBell | well it does matter a bit, best to use a filesystem that can store permissions in the right way for the operating system | 12:09 |
| sohaib | BigRedS, i understand this i have tried this in previous version of ubuntu i was able to create network but when i used to access those partitions it always said me you have no permissions to acess this directory | 12:10 |
| popey | I have some prawns, in shells, uncooked. Pondering what to do with them for lunch | 12:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | popey: Give them back to the sea :-) | 12:10 |
| popey | hah | 12:10 |
| AlanBell | cook, add mayo, make sandwich, bring round to me | 12:10 |
| popey | not sure the sea will want them | 12:10 |
| popey | hah | 12:10 |
| hamitron | my cat likes prawns | 12:10 |
| popey | my cat loves ham | 12:11 |
| popey | and cheese | 12:11 |
| BigRedS | sohaib: that's down to the filesystem permissions, not what filesystem you're using | 12:11 |
| MooDoo | ham and cheese toastie, yum | 12:11 |
| sohaib | AlanBell, so what should i do now to make them accessible over the network? | 12:11 |
| BigRedS | you'll have fewer permissions issues using unixy filesystems in linux than using windowsy ones | 12:11 |
| hamitron | with baked beans \o/ | 12:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | A spicy tomato/coconut type curry sauce would be good - Perhaps with tamaring to sour it up a bit. | 12:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | s/tamaring/tamarind | 12:11 |
| AlanBell | !samba | 12:12 |
| lubotu3 | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. | 12:12 |
| sohaib | BigRedS, is it possible to make a specific folder accessible over the network which is located on an ntfs Partition? | 12:12 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | sohaib: Samba is pretty much the de-facto server based solution for windows shares - it works. You just have to configure it right. | 12:12 |
| BigRedS | yeah, but you'll need to work around the fact that NTFS permissions are not supported by Linux | 12:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Why do you need to use an NTFS partition? | 12:13 |
| BigRedS | It will be easier to set up if you don't use an NTFS permission | 12:13 |
| AlanBell | sohaib: maybe ask in #samba if you really want to share NTFS parititons from linux http://www.samba.org/samba/irc.html | 12:14 |
| sohaib | TheOpenSourcerer, is there any way to resize my ubuntu partitions so i can move that data from ntfs to ubuntu? | 12:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | gparted | 12:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | !gparted | 12:15 |
| lubotu3 | gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php | 12:15 |
| hamitron | I hate it when you have data stuck somewhere, and you have nowhere to move it :/ | 12:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | MOAR disk space. | 12:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Or delete old stuff. | 12:15 |
| hamitron | TheOpenSourcerer: yeh, I get more and fill it | 12:15 |
| hamitron | ;) | 12:15 |
| sohaib | TheOpenSourcerer, is there any step by step instructions to configure samba correctly | 12:16 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | There are loads - all over the internet. | 12:17 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Correctly is entirely your choice. | 12:17 |
| sohaib | :) | 12:17 |
| hamitron | the smb.conf file is heavily commented | 12:18 |
| hamitron | so the lazy can just modify that for basic setups | 12:18 |
| hamitron | perfect for me ;) | 12:18 |
| popey | \o/ lazy | 12:19 |
| sohaib | TheOpenSourcerer, BigRedS, AlanBell: thank you so much guys, i try to cope with this and if i culdn't go nowhere, i'll get back to you. Cheers | 12:19 |
| AlanBell | computing is all about applied lazyness | 12:19 |
| hamitron | time for fish and chips | 12:20 |
| hamitron | bbl o/ | 12:20 |
| JGJones | Nokia's N9 look fantastic...if it came out 2 years ago. Pity | 12:23 |
| directhex | JGJones, i don't know what to think about it. | 12:24 |
| JGJones | I liked the N900...but nothing since then was killing meego. shame, it had potenital, but today up against Android and iOS, it's a huge mountain | 12:25 |
| JGJones | anyway it doesn't have a future, Nokia laid off 7000 staff from two depts - symbian and meego. | 12:26 |
| popey | yeah, friend of mine works there, she's got one year left | 12:29 |
| popey | they just promoted her too (after the closure announcement) which is odd | 12:30 |
| * selinuxium is waiting for his Galaxy S II to arrive.... | 12:32 | |
| JGJones | shame...I actually want a N9, it look nice, but I won't get it. | 12:32 |
| * diplo wants a smartphone but doesn't want a contract | 12:36 | |
| diplo | If anyone wants to sell one cheaply :) | 12:36 |
| popey | I'm on the blag for hardware to review on the podcast. have tapped up a couple of laptop manufacturers, other suggestions? | 12:38 |
| popey | ubuntu-centric would be handy :D | 12:38 |
| daubers | lo | 12:39 |
| AlanBell | popey: fancy keyboards http://keyboardco.com/ | 12:40 |
| popey | ooo | 12:40 |
| * daubers loves leftovers for lunch | 12:40 | |
| * popey wonders if they do model-m like ones | 12:40 | |
| * AlanBell wonders what a model-m is | 12:40 | |
| BigRedS | awesome | 12:40 |
| popey | WHAT!> | 12:40 |
| * popey deducts some geek points from AlanBell | 12:40 | |
| popey | only the greatest keyboard known to man | 12:41 |
| popey | (and woman) | 12:41 |
| daubers | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_keyboard | 12:41 |
| popey | want one of them, USB, with a "windows" key | 12:41 |
| BigRedS | you can usb it with a usb to ps/2 adaptor and some ingenuity | 12:42 |
| AlanBell | talking to keyboardco.com about doing a CoF on the super key | 12:42 |
| AlanBell | you want PS/2 actually | 12:42 |
| AlanBell | it does N-key rollover better | 12:42 |
| bigcalm | I have a spare Unicomp keyboard if anybody wants it | 12:43 |
| bigcalm | US layout sadly | 12:43 |
| AlanBell | (can I have my geek points back now please) | 12:43 |
| * MooDoo is vexed, ok admit it who mentioned fish and chips | 12:43 | |
| * bigcalm <3 his Unicomp keyboard. Hayley does not | 12:43 | |
| bigcalm | MooDoo: it was danfish | 12:44 |
| bigcalm | That, or you just looked at his nick | 12:44 |
| popey | why would ps/2 do n-key better than USB? | 12:44 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: damn him, now i want chich and fips | 12:44 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer has left-over macaroni cheese for lunch. Avec something hot like chilli sauce... | 12:44 | |
| bigcalm | "Unicomp has had difficulty making them profitable because they rarely break, and most retailers will not stock such an expensive keyboard." | 12:45 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 12:45 |
| AlanBell | the Filco keyboards are *very* nice | 12:46 |
| bigcalm | Even less proffit from me as they sent me a US layout when I ordered a UK one | 12:46 |
| AlanBell | http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=688 those are nice too, a roller mouse is interesting and but it really works rather well | 12:48 |
| popey | i worked with someone who had one of those | 12:49 |
| popey | horrid things | 12:49 |
| popey | she had bad rsi which is why she used it | 12:49 |
| AlanBell | we appear to be having a weather failure here :( | 13:02 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Laura Czajkowski] Planet Ubuntu Ireland Lets get chatting - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/06/23/planet-ubuntu-ireland-lets-get-chatting/ | 13:06 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: no rain yet but it's looking bleak here to....although sunday is supposed to be warm | 13:09 |
| * BigRedS is being attacked with ubuntu stickers again | 13:11 | |
| AlanBell | popey: the USB protocol only allows for 6 simultaneous keypresses apparently | 13:13 |
| AlanBell | PS/2 you can address every key on the keyboard | 13:13 |
| BigRedS | oooh | 13:14 |
| BigRedS | that helps me justify my preference for ps2 | 13:15 |
| BigRedS | sort-of | 13:15 |
| MartijnVdS | Except PS/2 can't address more than a given total number of keys | 13:16 |
| AlanBell | and doesn't supply power | 13:17 |
| AlanBell | but high end keyboards all have PS2 connections | 13:18 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | But many PCs now do not have PS2 connectors | 13:18 |
| AlanBell | this is true | 13:18 |
| JGJones | PS2 to USB convertors | 13:18 |
| AlanBell | yes, but that means you are back to 6 key rollover | 13:19 |
| JGJones | Aye...I want one though... | 13:19 |
| JGJones | I had a few... | 13:19 |
| JGJones | then dug out my old keyboard as fed up with laptop keyboard, it's a PS2 | 13:19 |
| JGJones | and now I can't find any of my convertors. bah | 13:19 |
| oimon | "We particularly welcome applications from black and minority ethnic candidates as they are under-represented within the university at this level" << why would a job advert include this line? | 13:19 |
| oimon | are they suggesting that the best person for the job might not get picked due to race? | 13:20 |
| MooDoo | oimon: sounds standard to me to be honest | 13:20 |
| JGJones | they call it "positive discrimination" | 13:20 |
| AlanBell | oimon: it is OK to "welcome applications" | 13:20 |
| oimon | AlanBell: then the line is irrelevant surely? other institutions say "we are equal ooprtunities employer so welcome everybody" | 13:21 |
| AlanBell | yeah, well they are being a bit more encouraging | 13:22 |
| oimon | sucks IMO | 13:22 |
| AlanBell | meh IMO :) | 13:23 |
| AlanBell | anyhow, are you going for a job in a uni? | 13:23 |
| oimon | i work in a uni now | 13:23 |
| oimon | looking around | 13:24 |
| * AlanBell thinks we need to do some installfests in university computing societies | 13:24 | |
| oimon | +1 | 13:24 |
| AlanBell | where are you at now? | 13:24 |
| oimon | check my IP :) | 13:25 |
| AlanBell | and does anyone else here (such as dutchie) have contacts? | 13:25 |
| oimon | a lot of science staff use linux | 13:25 |
| daubers | AlanBell: I still know people at Swansea | 13:25 |
| daubers | (as does Alan Cox I suspect) | 13:25 |
| oimon | maths/physics/comp sci are EE are all v linux friendly in general | 13:26 |
| AlanBell | oimon: I am totally up for coming to qmul with a box of free CDs | 13:26 |
| oimon | AlanBell: have you done any at a uni? interested to know how it went | 13:32 |
| AlanBell | not yet | 13:34 |
| dutchie | AlanBell: oxford is too big and varied to do anything uni-wide i think | 13:34 |
| dutchie | would be best to target individual depts/colleges imo | 13:35 |
| dutchie | or OUCS, i suppose | 13:35 |
| AlanBell | dutchie: yeah, just want a room for an hour in an evening | 13:35 |
| dutchie | would be lovely if they could ditch exchange | 13:35 |
| AlanBell | OUCS would be ideal | 13:35 |
| oimon | would the uni arrange the publicity too? | 13:36 |
| * popey awards AlanBell his geek points back | 13:36 | |
| AlanBell | just want to get CDs out to students | 13:36 |
| dutchie | apple seem to be allowed to spam us all with their marketing rubbish | 13:36 |
| dutchie | so there must be an "in" for advertisements of that sort | 13:37 |
| * popey consumes prawn wraps | 13:37 | |
| oimon | summer is good at uni's because seminars and stuff close down or are less frequent | 13:38 |
| oimon | therefore rooms are free | 13:38 |
| oimon | on the downside, a lot of students go home | 13:38 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Sometimes I worry about you I send you a text and a ping on irc both with the same message and the penny doesn't drop, there's no hope for you ;) | 13:38 |
| dutchie | undergraduates here at least are supposed to stay to the end of 8th week | 13:40 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: sorry took my brain our to poke czajkowski never put it back in to speak to you | 13:41 |
| oimon | another thing is supplying CDs to computer societies for freshers week | 13:42 |
| andylockran | hey guys - I've added the objectClass: hostObject to a few users and can sucessfully limit access per-user to different hosts using the host: attribute. I'd like to be able to do this by group instead - any ideas? | 13:43 |
| oimon | interesting that compsocs at uni's seem to have died a bit | 13:44 |
| andylockran | quiet here today | 13:57 |
| JGJones | Nah, it wasn't quiet just a few minutes ago...giant flamewar, Godwin's law broken within second and all that. | 13:58 |
| JGJones | something to do with lager vs ale. | 13:59 |
| oimon | ponytails vs neckbeards | 13:59 |
| JGJones | The comeback of mullets | 14:00 |
| MooDoo | lager spit....pah! and off we go :) | 14:01 |
| andylockran | I quite like perry | 14:02 |
| andylockran | as an aside, anyone good with OpenLDAP? | 14:02 |
| diplo | Nope andy, but if you get good with it pass on the knowledge, really really want to set a ldap server up but keep failing even with the tutorials :/ | 14:03 |
| oimon | i find ldap a bit clunky | 14:04 |
| oimon | diplo: for home? | 14:05 |
| andylockran | diplo: more than happy to answer any questions.. | 14:06 |
| oimon | andylockran: i only recently discovered that babycham is in fact perry | 14:07 |
| diplo | Nope, want to integrate into work oimon | 14:15 |
| diplo | Phone system and the Assett database that I want to write for all our customers hardware etfc | 14:15 |
| diplo | So we have one place to update customer info | 14:15 |
| diplo | andylockran, what do you use your ldap server on ? Ubuntu/RH ? | 14:17 |
| * daubers really wants to setup an asterisk system in the office | 14:18 | |
| diplo | I also want to try that daubers | 14:20 |
| diplo | 2 projects I have on my list to test | 14:20 |
| daubers | diplo: Main thing stoppign me is apparently ISDN cards are some kind of voodoo magic | 14:20 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: always have been | 14:22 |
| andylockran | diplo: I run it on debian, gentoo and CentOS | 14:24 |
| andylockran | diplo: got it n-way replicated across multiple sites too :) | 14:24 |
| daubers | The fact that ISDN cards seem to cost $extortionate always puts me off too | 14:25 |
| bigcalm | ISDN is still used? | 14:30 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: ISDN30 is in heavy use by companies | 14:32 |
| bigcalm | Fair enough | 14:34 |
| dwatkins | Can anyone please tell me if the FHS defines that subdirectories should be created within /usr/local - I can't see any mention in the docs...? | 14:38 |
| BigRedS | my redhat mug just broke :( Wonder if I've a support contract on it | 14:42 |
| daubers | bigcalm: ISDN30 is used for generic telephone services instead of POTS in most companies | 14:43 |
| daubers | we have 8 ISDN lines, and a POTS line for the ADSL :) | 14:43 |
| Laney | dwatkins: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRLOCALLOCALHIERARCHY ? | 14:43 |
| diplo | Sorry guys phone/work | 14:46 |
| diplo | andylockran, I may call on you at some point in the near future then | 14:46 |
| diplo | My company mainly runs CentOS and I run Ubuntu servers | 14:46 |
| diplo | Will get a dev box up, find a decent tutorial and when I get stuck I will shout :) | 14:47 |
| oimon | our zimbra server manages our ldap | 14:47 |
| diplo | How do you find Zimbra ? Tried the client.. not had chance to test the server yet. | 14:48 |
| oimon | fantastic | 14:48 |
| diplo | Does it install it as a dependancy ? | 14:48 |
| diplo | I'm guessing community edition ? | 14:48 |
| oimon | i use the paid version | 14:48 |
| oimon | for active sync and support | 14:48 |
| oimon | but the free edition is v similar | 14:48 |
| oimon | will be sad when the IT bullies impose exchange upon us | 14:51 |
| diplo | heh, it happened where i worked | 14:52 |
| diplo | I'm back on a linux mta now though at new job | 14:53 |
| diplo | Wondering about implementing Zimbra here | 14:53 |
| diplo | Only 20 ish of us | 14:53 |
| diplo | Instead of 700+ | 14:53 |
| oimon | we have about 250 users on ours | 14:54 |
| oimon | but is very scalable | 14:55 |
| dwatkins | thanks Laney | 14:55 |
| Laney | np | 14:56 |
| dwatkins | I'm trying to find something that specifically says to create a subdirectory, but all the stuff I find only implies it, obvious as it is to me. | 14:57 |
| andylockran | Zimbra! is pretty cool - I've used that otoo | 15:06 |
| andylockran | Zimbra! + Samba FTW.. | 15:06 |
| andylockran | :p | 15:06 |
| andylockran | all your office needs on one box | 15:06 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Paul Mellors] Why work for Canonical? - http://paulmellors.blogspot.com/2011/06/why-work-for-canonical.html | 15:07 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings everyone, | 15:10 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: afternoonisms :) | 15:10 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: afternoonings :) | 15:11 |
| AlanBell | an | 15:18 |
| AlanBell | oops | 15:18 |
| * AlanBell is on a phone keyboard | 15:19 | |
| * brobostigon is impressed, google maps can do route planning on busses. | 15:19 | |
| * popey wonders how often brobostigon drives a bus | 15:22 | |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 15:22 |
| popey | hows the tablet bigcalm ? :D | 15:22 |
| * brobostigon never drives a bug. | 15:22 | |
| brobostigon | bus* | 15:22 |
| bigcalm | popey: the hash tag is appropriate | 15:23 |
| popey | indeed | 15:23 |
| bigcalm | Found that holding down the tiny reset button did the trick | 15:23 |
| davmor2 | popey: I've driven a few buses | 15:23 |
| * popey offers bigcalm a link to http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad | 15:23 | |
| bigcalm | I guess it's a physical connection of the battery | 15:23 |
| * brobostigon needs to plan, to go to oxford, via bus and train, to see his orthopedic doctor, concrning his osteoporosis. | 15:24 | |
| * bigcalm offers popey a choise of fingers from his right hand. Sadly the thumb, index, ring and little fingers are in use | 15:24 | |
| bigcalm | :P | 15:24 |
| davmor2 | popey: not too different to Lorries only allowed to go faster on the motorway which I never really got | 15:24 |
| popey | :D | 15:24 |
| bigcalm | choice | 15:24 |
| popey | davmor2: momentum? | 15:24 |
| popey | not sure I'd want to be behind a lorry with a full load at 70MPH | 15:25 |
| popey | s/behind/infront of/ | 15:25 |
| davmor2 | popey: Nope they aren't limited as low as Lorries | 15:25 |
| popey | well, either | 15:25 |
| bigcalm | If you're towing, you aren't meant to be doing 70mph either | 15:25 |
| popey | thats the point I was making | 15:25 |
| davmor2 | popey: a full bus and a lorry aren't hugely different in weight Lorry is 32 ton bug 23-25 ton the bus however is full of people surely it should be going slower :D | 15:27 |
| davmor2 | s/bug/bus | 15:28 |
| popey | thats ~10T difference | 15:29 |
| popey | hey ho, off to the dump | 15:29 |
| BigRedS | or 30ish% | 15:29 |
| davmor2 | popey: either of them hit you at 70 you car is a small box :D | 15:30 |
| BigRedS | you're not likely to do much beter at 54mph either... | 15:31 |
| hamitron | if you are behind it, it is unlikely ;) | 15:31 |
| Myrtti | meh, tomorrow is midsummers eve, I've just spend 120€ on food for it, and here I am, unable to unwind... | 15:35 |
| Myrtti | can someone please turn my brain off for 30 minutes atleast | 15:35 |
| * hamitron turns the dial to 0 | 15:35 | |
| hamitron | no movement? :-o | 15:35 |
| JGJones | Too much methinks | 15:36 |
| JGJones | try 0.5 next time. | 15:36 |
| ikonia | popey: ping | 15:46 |
| popey | ikonia: pong | 15:53 |
| gord | Myrtti, i find http://rain.nxe7.com/ nice and relaxing | 15:53 |
| popey | apparently we're the 12th largest channel on freenode :D | 15:54 |
| MooDoo | yaya | 15:55 |
| DJones | Who are the top 10? | 15:55 |
| DJones | 1) Ubuntu, 2) ? | 15:55 |
| popey | 15:51:34 < szal> useless trivia -> the 5 largest *buntu channels on Freenode by user count: (1) #ubuntu; (2) #ubuntu-server; (3) #ubuntu-devel; (4) #ubuntu-offtopic; (5) #kubuntu | 15:55 |
| popey | 15:52:54 < szal> then on (6) and (7) follow the 2 largest non-English *buntu channels, #ubuntu-fr and #ubuntu-de | 15:55 |
| JGJones | largest ubuntu related channels or out of all channels? | 15:56 |
| popey | oh, *ubuntu ones :D | 15:57 |
| JGJones | #ubuntu is pretty big though...I don't really read it anymore, too fast | 15:57 |
| gord | i stay in #ubuntu mainly because its lurkers like me who will eventually push it over the 2k mark! | 15:58 |
| bigcalm | 1,562 users in there | 15:58 |
| bigcalm | Sheesh | 15:58 |
| Laney | it used to be a good stress test of IRC clients | 15:58 |
| popey | heh | 15:58 |
| popey | its a good stress test of piespy | 15:58 |
| Laney | joining it used to crash whatever it was I used a few years ago | 15:58 |
| gord | it was pretty good at stressing my ssd until i turned off logging :) | 15:59 |
| * Laney needs to find a man with van for next week | 16:02 | |
| AlanBell | looks like another ex-chicken | 16:15 |
| bigcalm | Tea? | 16:16 |
| danfish | AlanBell: oops - what's the problem with it? | 16:18 |
| AlanBell | the passage of time mostly | 16:19 |
| AlanBell | none of us are getting younger | 16:19 |
| danfish | true - we all have an eggspiry date ;) | 16:19 |
| danfish | ....tumbleweed......... | 16:20 |
| MooDoo | tumbleweed.popey.com | 16:20 |
| MooDoo | in brand new html5 :) | 16:20 |
| daubers | danfish: That's just rotten. You'll make them all over eggcited. | 16:21 |
| MooDoo | i'm getting eggsaperated with all these egg yolks | 16:22 |
| bigcalm | Nothing html5 about that | 16:22 |
| MooDoo | oh thought it was html5 lol | 16:22 |
| bigcalm | As it is, it has syntax errors | 16:22 |
| bigcalm | View the source | 16:23 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: tell popey ;) | 16:23 |
| bigcalm | Just an animated GIF that has been flipped horizontally | 16:23 |
| AlanBell | http://oo00.eu/ | 16:24 |
| danfish | MooDoo: you always over egg things | 16:25 |
| daubers | danfish: Stop egg-ing them on! | 16:26 |
| MooDoo | danfish: i'm just an eggcitable guy | 16:26 |
| MooDoo | danfish: eggcuse me | 16:26 |
| danfish | why, what have you done eggxactly? | 16:27 |
| davmor2 | you must be yolking | 16:27 |
| MooDoo | i can't cope my brain is scrambles | 16:27 |
| davmor2 | eggstreemly fried brain | 16:28 |
| MooDoo | roll on weekend when i'm at BAKE well....hmmmm beer | 16:28 |
| danfish | hhmmmmmmmm......BRAINS | 16:28 |
| AlanBell | I was expecting more of a parrot sketch themed conversation | 16:29 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: nah that's a dead end | 16:29 |
| AlanBell | maybe I should nail it to the perch | 16:29 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: Nah that would be a tasteless gag and it isn't blue and in a cage | 16:29 |
| MooDoo | don't listen to AlanBell he's not the messiah he's a very naughty boy | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigcuthy/5863158335/ | 16:29 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: fab :) | 16:30 |
| bigcalm | MooDoo: silly ;) | 16:30 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: yeah silly, but fun from the doldrums of work | 16:31 |
| bigcalm | Yep! | 16:31 |
| danfish | yikes - been looking into (open source) video conferencing solutions (like big blue button) for our local dr's to use - the NHS-Internet net connection is only 33Mbps in either direction, meaning we'd gobble up most of that with one meeting :( | 16:35 |
| oimon | danfish: i've used tandberg in the past which supports standards e.g. ekiga can connect to it | 16:37 |
| oimon | works well over 256k or 2mb for HD | 16:37 |
| AlanBell | danfish: how many endpoints? 33MB sounds like quite a lot | 16:38 |
| danfish | AlanBell: oimon : I thought that as well, but going through the FAQ on big blue button with say 40users gives... | 16:39 |
| AlanBell | 40 users is a lot | 16:40 |
| danfish | oops - faq now gone down http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/FAQ | 16:40 |
| AlanBell | http://www.openmeetings.de/ | 16:41 |
| danfish | if everyone is at home connecting to a service on the external internet, we should be at fine, but if we have users within the N3 connection, we'll start to use up a lot of the available bandwidth | 16:41 |
| AlanBell | oooh you mean the main N3 outlet | 16:42 |
| AlanBell | I thought you meant your surgery uplink | 16:42 |
| danfish | yes - main N3 uplink - but that's also our surgery uplink | 16:42 |
| AlanBell | so you might be a bit unpopular if you gobble it all up | 16:43 |
| danfish | a tad, yes. How would all those managers update their facebook statuses? | 16:44 |
| danfish | mind you, we've been thinking of getting a second internet connection for a while and switching to voip while we are at it | 16:45 |
| AlanBell | http://www.n3.nhs.uk/News/N3boostsNHSInternetGatewaytoprovidefasteraccesstokeyhealthcarewebsites.cfm | 16:47 |
| AlanBell | they are about to move from 3Gbps to 5Gbps for the main uplink | 16:48 |
| AlanBell | and london has a 10Gbps backbone | 16:48 |
| AlanBell | so the facebook updates should be safe | 16:48 |
| danfish | heh - I'd missed that one. Looks like some traffic shaping will be happening. | 16:49 |
| * oimon remembers to slap the uupc on his mp3 player before leaving for the day | 17:07 | |
| popey | Dont forget to enter the competition! | 17:09 |
| bigcalm | I can't actually remember what the question was | 17:14 |
| bigcalm | Or what the prize was | 17:14 |
| popey | prize was an audio book | 17:17 |
| popey | non-drm mp3 | 17:17 |
| bigcalm | Ah, yes | 17:17 |
| AlanBell | oimon: I can't find a computer society http://www.qmsu.org/sportsandactivities/societies/ | 17:31 |
| === cking_ is now known as cking | ||
| AlanBell | dutchie: o/ | 17:45 |
| AlanBell | http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=181466028575187 | 17:45 |
| popey | http://www.manolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/history-of-computing-full.png | 18:08 |
| popey | fun | 18:08 |
| ali1234 | popey: what is wrong with that pie chart? | 18:16 |
| ali1234 | the pie has colours not in the legend | 18:16 |
| ali1234 | and the shading makes it impossible to tell which is which anyway | 18:16 |
| ali1234 | also windows 7 0.8% market share, and vista not even visible? there's no way that is correct | 18:17 |
| popey | isnt 7 going to be the 36.5? | 18:18 |
| directhex | ali1234, i think the correct colours are on the outer edge of the pie, not the top | 18:18 |
| directhex | ali1234, yes, this makes it hard to read | 18:18 |
| popey | linux is 0.8 | 18:18 |
| popey | oh, no linux is 5.1 | 18:18 |
| popey | 0.8 is mobile?? | 18:18 |
| popey | that cant be right | 18:18 |
| directhex | popey, is that mobile? | 18:18 |
| popey | ah ok | 18:18 |
| directhex | popey, because of the broken colouring, it's impossible to tell the blues apart | 18:19 |
| popey | so linux _is_ 0.8, mobile is 5.1? | 18:19 |
| popey | yeah, bonkers | 18:19 |
| bigcalm | From reading most of the items, sounds like it was made by an Apple fanboi | 18:25 |
| shauno | none of the sources appear to cover his market share numbers. that makes it rather awkward | 18:31 |
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| daubers | Lo | 18:58 |
| davmor2 | ___________________ | 19:19 |
| davmor2 | < popey is a muppet > | 19:19 |
| davmor2 | ------------------- | 19:19 |
| davmor2 | \ ^__^ | 19:19 |
| davmor2 | \ (oo)\_______ | 19:19 |
| davmor2 | (__)\ )\/\ | 19:19 |
| davmor2 | ||----w | | 19:19 |
| davmor2 | || || | 19:19 |
| Adriannom | lo | 19:30 |
| davmor2 | Adriannom: hello | 19:32 |
| davmor2 | daubers: hello | 19:33 |
| Adriannom | got a i have a hp g61 running 10.04. it has a hdmi port, which i'm using to connect it to a tevion tv. the picture comes up ok other than the fact the colours are all screwed (white comes out pink, black comes out green, etc.). any idea how i could find out what's wrong? | 19:35 |
| Adriannom | the g61 is a laptop btw | 19:35 |
| * Adriannom rereads the first line and frowns at "got a i have a" | 19:36 | |
| AlanBell | tried a dvd player or something on that hdmi port? | 19:37 |
| Adriannom | nope, good point | 19:37 |
| AlanBell | it is the computer, the tv, or the cable, see which you can rule out | 19:38 |
| AlanBell | though I think hdmi cables either work or don't, I don't think there is anything inbetween | 19:39 |
| Adriannom | right, well it appears there's nothing else in the house that can connect with hdmi :| | 19:40 |
| Adriannom | there are two ports on the tv, tried the other one and it's the same | 19:42 |
| AlanBell | it probably is the computer, but I have not come across that issue before | 19:43 |
| AlanBell | ruling out the TV one way or another still sounds like a good thing to do | 19:44 |
| AlanBell | can you try different resolutions? | 19:44 |
| Adriannom | yeah all the same | 19:44 |
| ali1234 | popey: that puts "mobile" as the 0.8%, even though on the legend mobile is lighter colour and on the chart it is darker colours | 19:44 |
| ali1234 | popey: also what does "mobile" even mean? windows phone? iphone? if it's apple vs ms, why are they lumped in one category? | 19:44 |
| shauno | because MS's mobile presence is a rounding error ;) | 19:45 |
| AlanBell | bug 751735 | Adriannom | 19:45 |
| lubotu3` | Launchpad bug 751735 in linux (Ubuntu) "[intel 82G35] HDMI color issues" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/751735 | 19:45 |
| ali1234 | just the first chart on the image has so many problems i'm not even going to bother looking at the rest of it | 19:45 |
| shauno | the pie chart sorely lacks sources. makes it very difficult to take seriously | 19:46 |
| AlanBell | Adriannom: can you type lspci in a terminal and paste in here the line that relates to your video card (it will say VGA in it somewhere) | 19:47 |
| ali1234 | shauno: here is some sourced data: http://www.indopost.com/blog/2011/06/worlds-smartphone-operating-system-market-share-in-2011-39-google-android-apple-ios-18-rim-blackberr.html | 19:49 |
| Adriannom | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) | 19:49 |
| davmor2 | Adriannom: the issue might be the 10.04 drivers to be honest 10.04 is now a year old and the intel drivers have come a long way in that time | 19:49 |
| Adriannom | hmm | 19:50 |
| Adriannom | that bug does seem to fit | 19:50 |
| Adriannom | davmor2, is there a way of installing older drivers? | 19:50 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: g61 is intel gfx | 19:51 |
| AlanBell | Adriannom: I would maybe try a live CD of 11.04 | 19:54 |
| Adriannom | AlanBell, ok i'll give that a go, cheers :) | 19:55 |
| Adriannom | thanks for your help, byee :) | 19:58 |
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| JGJones | grumble...I always have expensive things breaking just after paying for bills, so I still have to shell out more... | 20:42 |
| JGJones | wifey's Canon 18-200mm IS lens got jammed and is being repaired. | 20:42 |
| MartijnVdS | ouch | 20:43 |
| gord | managed to try out gnome-shell for a bit tonight, it does not like my gpu at all | 20:44 |
| gord | sooo slooow | 20:44 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: You should try unity | 20:45 |
| MartijnVdS | !jpc | 20:45 |
| gord | umm ok, i'll do that | 20:45 |
| daubers | The great deku tree was somewhat dumb in acting against ganon so late | 21:03 |
| daubers | also, 14 year old graphics on a brand new tv aren't very spectacular | 21:05 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: Try a ZX or BBC Micro on a 55" TV some time | 21:05 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: it's GREAT | 21:05 |
| daubers | MartijnVdS: Still only 80 lines (or so) deep? | 21:05 |
| hamitron | definately a ZX ;/ | 21:05 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: of course | 21:06 |
| hamitron | oh noes | 21:06 |
| hamitron | my new tv doesn't have an analogue tuner | 21:06 |
| hamitron | :/ | 21:06 |
| MartijnVdS | it doesn't? | 21:06 |
| MartijnVdS | mine does | 21:06 |
| MartijnVdS | DVB-{T,C,S} and analog | 21:07 |
| hamitron | I hope the signal power booast lets me watch tv | 21:07 |
| hamitron | :D | 21:07 |
| MartijnVdS | ? | 21:07 |
| hamitron | can't get decent reception | 21:08 |
| hamitron | :/ | 21:08 |
| hamitron | it is ok in the daytime sometimes, when no cars drive by | 21:08 |
| hamitron | so fingers crossed :D | 21:08 |
| hamitron | bbl, F1 2010 | 21:10 |
| daubers | Twenty three is number 1!! | 21:31 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: 25 or 6 to 4? | 21:31 |
| daubers | also, wasn't there a meeting tonight> | 21:33 |
| Core_UK | Hello ubuntu UK! | 21:35 |
| daubers | Meeting 22nd June 21:00 BST #ubuntu-uk-meeting <- last night then | 21:35 |
| Core_UK | Meh it was the same time as the debian meeting >< | 21:36 |
| * jacobw wasn't aware debian had IRC meetings | 21:52 | |
| MichealH | AlanBell: Could I point the topic out to you? :P | 21:53 |
| AlanBell | you could | 21:54 |
| MichealH | AlanBell: The "meeting" was yesterday, It never took place so Uhh... The topic is old :P | 21:54 |
| AlanBell | yeah, anyone seen cyberjacob? | 21:54 |
| MichealH | I could be the next meeting chair if you wish | 21:55 |
| MichealH | Heck, I could do it tommorow If you like | 21:55 |
| AlanBell | bit soon | 21:56 |
| AlanBell | monday or tuesday? | 21:56 |
| MichealH | Tuesday | 21:56 |
| MichealH | Please | 21:56 |
| MichealH | Im out on Mon | 21:57 |
| AlanBell | ok, if cyberjacob resurfaces then he can chair, otherwise MichealH | 21:57 |
| AlanBell | shall we do an earlier one perhaps | 21:57 |
| AlanBell | 8PM? | 21:58 |
| MichealH | Yeah | 21:58 |
| MichealH | Tue 8PM | 21:58 |
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| AlanBell | thanks MichealH | 22:00 |
| AlanBell | lets also make tuesday a bit of a day to do the reapproval application | 22:01 |
| MichealH | AlanBell: np | 22:01 |
| popey | I wont be around on tuesday ☹ | 22:09 |
| daubers | I'm probably not either. Got to go to a potential customer in wantage | 22:10 |
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| brobostigon | good night everyone, sleep well. | 23:38 |
| Deedle-dah | hey there | 23:41 |
| popey | hello Deedle-dah | 23:46 |
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