[00:00] <Sovek> OK, so after one boot where the touchpad failed to work (due to the damn numpad plugged in) I get an Aufus mount failed or some such
[00:01] <Sovek> brb, made a new disk, trying again
[00:04]  * sudokill coughs*
[00:05] <u-ki8as> #dstar
[00:05] <TrD> i have a psad problem external script can't run on a scan
[00:07] <Taroven> dr_willis: Gonna give UNetbootin a shot, looks suitably awesome for the purpose.
[00:07] <wizardmonster> ubuntu?
[00:07] <TMechanic> el nuevo es el 11.04
[00:08] <Taroven> wizardmonster: Ubuntu.
[00:08] <ProtiX> i need help
[00:08] <wizardmonster> is this the offical Ubuntu chat room?
[00:08] <TMechanic> esta feo eso
[00:08] <TMechanic> usa el 10.04 LTS
[00:08] <TMechanic> i use it
[00:09] <wizardmonster> exit#
[00:09] <Toastdude> Wow... Lot's of people here...
[00:10] <biami> anyone knows any ppa of GNOME3 that actually works...
[00:10] <OerHeks> !gnome3
[00:10] <OerHeks> not really biami, wait for 11.10
[00:11] <itu> dr_willis: thanks. it got it
[00:11] <biami> ubottu: i did that... it crashed unity... and G3 looked nothing like the screenshots
[00:11] <ZykoticK9_> biami, you could try Fedora
[00:12] <TMechanic> 11.10 coming in october right?
[00:12] <bazhang> TMechanic, yes
[00:12] <[Raiden]> biami: try this http://paste.org.ru/?tr8vix
[00:13] <bazhang> [Raiden], thats not helpful
[00:14] <biami> [Raiden]: that doesn't work...
[00:14] <bazhang> biami, dont bother, its installing the ppa then purging it
[00:14] <[Raiden]> work for me http://storage8.static.itmages.ru/i/11/0623/h_1308784463_bae6d4a091.png
[00:14] <biami> will wait for 11.10... can't move away from Ubuntu... :(
[00:14] <bazhang> [Raiden], dont recommend things not supported here.
[00:15] <[Raiden]> ok
[00:15] <OerHeks> if you like cutting edge testing you could download oneiric 11.10 > support in #Ubuntu+1
[00:15] <Zeelot> hey guys, if I wrote a little CLI script, how do I go about adding autocomplete for it?
[00:16] <OerHeks> the alpha1 that is *
[00:16] <Taroven> dr_willis: Problem in the install process. Using the alternate install iso, it's failing at the detect/mount step. Tried 'mkdir -p /dev/loop && ln /dev/loop0 /dev/loop/0' in terminal 2 on an offchance that it'd do something, no joy. Any ideas?
[00:16] <qin> Zeelot: You mean putting it in path, or "in script" autocomplete.
[00:16] <ZykoticK9_> Zeelot, "autocomplete for it" what do you mean?  If you create a ~/bin and logout/login it will be in your PATH if that's what you mean.
[00:16] <Zeelot> qin: No, I mean autocomplete for the arguments
[00:16] <Taroven> dr_willis: Think using the standard install iso would work better?
[00:16] <Zeelot> sorry
[00:16] <Rrune> hi, is anyone using a fusionio iodrive (or iodrive duo) with ubuntu? Im wondering if it shows up in lspci and if the debs provided by iofusion works well
[00:17] <Rrune> as it seems that atleast with dell hardware they officially only support suse and rhel
[00:17] <Zeelot> something like ./my-script foo bar biz (I would like autocomplete for the 3 arguments)
[00:17] <ZykoticK9_> Zeelot, there is no way to autocomplete arguments - do you expect it to read people's minds?  Arguments are ways to add options?!?!
[00:18] <Zeelot> then how does git checko[tab] autocomplete?
[00:18] <dr_willis> Taroven,  could be a bad iso file.  I tend to use the pendrivelinux tools that put grub2 and the iso file on a flash drive. that way i can have several isos on the same pendrive
[00:18] <quidnunc> I get the following error when trying to install postgres "/var/lib/postgresql/8.4/main is not accessible or does not exist"
 you need default arguments... if there is no supplied argument, go with the default ones...
[00:18] <ZykoticK9_> Zeelot, actually the same for apt-get as well....  so my bad.
[00:18] <quidnunc> what gives?
[00:18] <dr_willis> !autocomplete
[00:18] <OerHeks> Rhune Binaries and source code are available from Fusion-io support site
[00:19] <dr_willis> the bash auto completion feature is amazingly handy and flexiable.
[00:19] <dr_willis> bbl ya all.
[00:19] <Rrune> Zeelot, check out http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2784605/how-to-define-your-own-terminal-tab-completions seems to adress what you are looking for :)
[00:19] <Zeelot> biami: I don't know what you mean by that
[00:19] <Zeelot> Rrune: perfect, thanks!
[00:19] <Taroven> dr_willis: Could be. Should've run a hashcheck to be sure. I'll give the normal ISO a shot real quick before getting too far into this.
[00:20] <wifi-issues> Would anyone be able to assist me with wireless internet issues? My wifi is downloading at 20kb/s average. I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 to my Acer Aspire 7551 notebook.
[00:20] <Rrune> OerHeks, hi, thanks, Im using those debs and everything looks just fine, except I dont see an iodrive in any of the servers at all :) thats why I wonder if theres an alternative way to check for them, like lspci or perhaps messages during post. Yousee the servers are located on a remote datacenter :s
[00:21] <Rrune> also, its the first time I deal with iodrives so, yea :)
[00:22] <Rrune> frankly I think dell simply forgot to install them before shipping :|
[00:22] <OerHeks> Rrune my knowledge does not go that far, sorry.
[00:22] <biami> Zeelot: programName a b c... argv[1]=a, right??? Then if argv[1] is there, then do something like firstArg=argv[1] else firstArg=default
[00:22] <Rrune> thanks anyway :)
[00:22] <Zeelot> biami: yea that's unrelated to what I needed, but thanks
[00:23] <biami> oh... sorry, then...
[00:23] <kkjkl> hi i ran chkrootkit and it gave me a log file. but when i paste the address into console it says permission denied to access it
[00:23] <kkjkl> should i type something like sudo chkrootkit then log file address
[00:24] <kkjkl> hello
[00:24] <Rrune> worth a shot :)
[00:24] <Rrune> if you are sure the file actually is there
[00:25] <kkjkl> hmm
[00:25] <wifi-issues> Would anyone be able to assist me with wireless internet issues? My wifi is downloading at 20kb/s average. I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 to my Acer Aspire 7551 notebook.
[00:25] <kkjkl> no
[00:25] <kkjkl> my isssue far more important
[00:26] <kkjkl> \var\log
[00:27] <biami> wifi-issues, get a faster connection...
[00:29] <bbrandon> i've got one of those readynases
[00:30] <Core_UK> by using chromium am i agreeing to any EULA? such as that for chrome?
[00:34] <Starminn> In Ubuntu 10.10 there's that bubble notification system. Now it won't work anymore. Instead, whenever I (for example) change songs, there is a window that pops up called "notify-sharp" that displays the information instead. Any assistance?
[00:35] <Taroven> Starminn: I believe you'd be looking for a fix or replacement for libnotify1 and/or notify-osd.
[00:36] <ZykoticK9_> Core_UK, i don't think there is a EULA with Chromium but you may want to be aware that the FSF does not consider it free software http://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines#chromium-browser
[00:36] <bzzzzz> hi boys :) anyone to help me? how to run ssh in ubuntu 10.10
[00:37] <kyi> n e one using ppc version?
[00:37] <ZykoticK9_> bzzzzz, if you want to install an ssh server, install the openssh-server package
[00:37] <eoss> hello, my proftpd service wants to know what user it will run as ive create a user for it but how would i, when starting the service tell it to run as that user?
[00:37] <Taroven> bzzzzz: Are you trying to connect to your Ubuntu computer remotely, or are you trying to ssh to another computer from it?
[00:37] <almoxarife> wifi-issues: do you have dual boot ?
[00:38] <bzzzzz> ZykoticK9_ yes im install this
[00:39] <OerHeks> !ppc
[00:40] <bzzzzz> Taroven im try, but view "Network error: Connection refused
[00:40] <Taroven> bzzzzz: I meant, which are you trying to do?
[00:41] <Starminn> Taroven: Removed and installed notify-osd to no avail.
[00:41] <Taroven> Starminn: ps -ax | grep notify
[00:41] <Guest74055> Oh my fucking god
[00:41] <Guest74055> SCREW YOU IP CHANGE
[00:41] <Guest74055> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[00:41] <FloodBot1> Guest74055: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:42] <kyi> floodbot whiner
[00:42] <kyi> lol
[00:42] <Sovek> Hey guys, got Linux Mint installed, only one problem.... I have the normal Gnome2.3 interface but with the Mint Icons.... HELP
[00:42] <itaylor57> ! mint
[00:42] <bbrandon> ubuntu has a pastebin?! NICE
[00:43] <Sovek> Ok, all I'm asking is what could cause that
[00:43] <Starminn> Taroven: http://pastie.org/2108814
[00:43] <sarthor> Hi. any one know about linux driver for finger print thumb LighTuning
[00:45] <biami> Sovek, what do u want to do?
[00:45] <biami> oh well...
[00:45] <kyi> to late
[00:45] <Taroven> Starminn: Notify-osd remains running after you remove it, at least in my experience. That may be the entire problem at the moment
[00:45] <kyi> lol
[00:46] <Starminn> Taroven: Ah! That would explain why a reinstall didn't fix it. Would a simple "killall notify-osd" solve this?
[00:46] <Taroven> Starminn: Could give 'killall notify-osd && notify-osd &' a shot
[00:46] <Taroven> Otherwise, I'd just reboot.
[00:47] <Starminn> Taroven: I've rebooted a few times since it's been doing this (although I haven't reinstalled & rebooted)
[00:47] <Taroven> Give the quick way a shot first then. =P
[00:48] <Starminn> Taroven: "notofy-osd: command not found"
[00:48] <Starminn> notify* (That was my error re-typing it)
[00:48] <Taroven> Figures. Sec, googling for some old articles
[00:48] <biami> notify
[00:48] <Starminn> biami: :)
[00:50] <Taroven> Starminn: Random curiosity, can you give AWN's notification daemon a shot real quick to see if it works properly?
[00:51] <Baion> hello
[00:51] <idr0p> Howdy
[00:51] <Starminn> Taroven: It works perfectly.
[00:51] <biami> Starminn,  if its in gnome panel, then try removing the notification applet from the panel and add it again... i don't think that would work, but atleast try once...
[00:52] <Starminn> Taroven: notify-osd stopped working around the time I started using AWN's (but I tried it before months ago and this didn't happen)
[00:52] <Starminn> biami: Tried already. :(
[00:52] <Taroven> Starminn: Ah, I see.
[00:54] <Taroven> Starminn: Not entirely sure if this'll break anything, but you could try reconfiguring notify-osd, notification-daemon, and/or notify-daemon depending on what all's installed. Not quite up to date on the programs involved, but at least one of those is involved.
[00:54] <Taroven> Starminn: dpkg-reconfigure <insert program here> is the way to go there.
[00:55] <Starminn> Taroven: What does that do? Restore all settings to "stock"?
[00:55] <Taroven> Pretty much, yeah.
[00:56] <ninjah> There seems to be a problem with my firewall and ftp. I have my own ftp server. If I kill the firewall it works. If I leave 20 and 21 open it doesn't. Any ideas?
[00:56] <sarthor> Hi. any one know about linux driver for finger print thumb LighTuning
[00:57] <ZykoticK9_> ninjah, FTP is a firewall nightmare - there are other dynamically assigned ports involved with FTP servers...  good luck.
[00:57] <Starminn> Taroven: No luck (but no breakage either!), however notification-daemon and notify-daemon do not seem to be installed if that means anything to you.
[00:57] <ninjah> ZykoticK9_:  Thanks
[00:57] <ZykoticK9_> ninjah, usually you can set the port range for the other ports used
[00:58] <Taroven> Starminn: apt-cache policy notification-daemon
[00:58] <Taroven> Do the same for notify-daemon, notify-osd, and libnotify1
[00:58] <celeryman> having trouble with internet fresh install ubuntu 11.04 its a sep comp ill have to type any replies manually, thank you in advance
[00:59] <Taroven> Starminn: That command will tell you A) Where you're getting a package from, B) if it's installable, and c) What versions are available (and installed if they are)
[00:59] <Starminn> Taroven: http://pastie.org/2108814
[00:59] <Taroven> celeryman: What sort of problems?
[00:59] <ManateeLazyCat> Hi all, it's possible run "apt-get update" don't need super user permission? Most source list is no problem, but some source list will output "Haven't permission for file /var/lib/dpkg/lock" if i don't use sudo.
[01:00] <ManateeLazyCat> I want build a update manager that running when first time connect network.
[01:00] <ManateeLazyCat> And i don't want user input password everytime
[01:00] <Taroven> Starminn: Might try installing notification-daemon, see what happens
[01:00] <Starminn> That's my next guess as well. *shrug*
[01:01] <celeryman> no internet connection through wired connection on desktop pc
[01:01] <Starminn> Hehe, a package in that installation is, "libsexy2" :) I love easter eggs/
[01:01] <Gunni> can someone explain why firefox is in there?, this is a server system btw... http://codepad.org/96lfDtna
[01:01] <Taroven> Starminn: If you can't tell, I'm pretty much just taking shots in the dark here... there's a lot of different things it *could* be, and a lot of different ways it *has* been, none of which may be applicable to your system
[01:02] <Taroven> celeryman: And what is the problem with the connection?
[01:02] <Rexter> hey folks! how are ya!!?
[01:02] <Taroven> celeryman: I can troubleshoot pretty much any internet-related issues as long as I have specific details, which I don't have from you at the moment. =P
[01:02] <Rexter> anyone home?
[01:02] <biami> Starminn, that's a collection of GTK+ widgets... needed for VLC player too...
[01:03] <Taroven> Rexter: Nobody here but us mice.
[01:03] <Gunni> can someone explain why firefox is in there?, this is a server system btw... http://codepad.org/96lfDtna
[01:03] <Starminn> Taroven: I understand, but I thank you for your attempts anyway. Two minds are better than one, and you probably know more than I regarding this. :) By the way, I've installed notification-daemon and restarted notify-osd and notification-daemon but it hasn't made a difference.
[01:03] <Rexter> lol, well mice can be helpful..
[01:03] <celeryman> its showing my ethernet device but no connection ifconfig shows eth0, eth0:avahi, and lo
[01:04] <Starminn> biami: Ah, thank you. :) Still a funny (though I'm sure entirely sensible) name to give it.
[01:04] <Rexter> I just installed, 11.04, and can't get my wireless driver installed. would someone be so kind as to help me troubleshoot.
[01:04] <ZykoticK9_> Gunni, it says it in your paste "aolserver4-doc    Recommends www-browser"
[01:04] <biami> geeks have to make do with sexy UI... they don't get sexy girls... :(
[01:04] <Gunni> ZykoticK9_ but i dont HAVE aolserver
[01:05] <Starminn> biami: My thoughts exactly!! Some kind of UI.
[01:05] <Taroven> celeryman: Open a terminal (alt-F2, type 'gnome-terminal' without the quotes)
[01:05] <Gunni> ZykoticK9_ then how do i ignore that reccomendation?
[01:05] <bazhang> !ot | biami
[01:05] <Taroven> celeryman: After that's open, type 'ifconfig', again without the quotes
[01:06] <celeryman> give me a min to type out all the info on ifconfig
[01:06] <biami> bazhang, what? i was talking about libsexy, GTK+ widget sets
[01:06] <bazhang> biami, then stay on topic. no need for the excessive chit chat.
[01:06] <Taroven> celeryman: Please use Pastebin. You can copy the results by selecting them with the mouse and hitting ctrl-shift-C
[01:06] <taglass> Gunni, do you have apache2 installed?
[01:06] <Gunni> taglass no
[01:06] <bazhang> celeryman, whats the chipset
[01:07] <bazhang> celeryman, lspci in the terminal
[01:07] <celeryman> there is no connection on that comp, i am using my laptop
[01:07] <celeryman> intel
[01:07] <taglass> Gunni, you have phpsysinfo installed which requires a webserver
[01:07] <bazhang> celeryman, the exact chipset please, intel sounds like wireless
[01:07] <Gunni> i know, i have nginx
[01:07] <Gunni> but this is a headless (NO X) server...
[01:08] <ManateeLazyCat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774633 fix my problem. :)
[01:08] <taglass> Gunni, that's why aolserver is being pulled in and by extension pulling in firefox
[01:08] <celeryman> oh for the ethernet? admtek nc100 network everywhere fast ethernet 10/10   its old
[01:08] <bazhang> celeryman, and your problem is with wired?
[01:08] <celeryman> yes
[01:09] <Gunni> taglass why would this just happen now?, i have had this system running for months now no problems like this, and i update all the time.
[01:09] <bazhang> celeryman, sudo dhclient eth0   <---- what results
[01:09] <Rexter> I have a fresh install of 11.04, the wireless driver won't install. anyone wanna take this one?
[01:09] <bazhang> !wifi | Rexter please have a read
[01:09] <taglass> Gunni, no idea.  I was just tryinjg to interpret your paste for you :)
[01:10] <Gunni> taglass do you know how to block that reccomendation?
[01:10] <bazhang> ManateeLazyCat, that fixed your problem? or you want someone to fix your problem?
[01:10] <Rexter> ubottu, that's great thank you, but my issue is  not covered. I'm getting an error during the driver install.
[01:10] <ManateeLazyCat> bazhang: No, i'm a programmer, i just want to know why update manager check update and don't need password.
[01:10] <Taroven> Starminn: Apparently I need to rip out my hard drives again, so I'll be back... eventually. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful with your issue, but hopefully I at least gave you a good starting point.
[01:10] <ManateeLazyCat> bazhang: I see now. :)
[01:10] <Starminn> Taroven: Oh, and instead of "ALT-F2 and typing gnome-terminal" you could just do CTRL+ALT+T. Anyway, thanks for all the help. I'm just going to continue using AWN's notification-daemon. I'll probably figure it out some day, haha
[01:11] <Taroven> Heh, good point.
[01:11] <Starminn> Taroven: Yeah, absolutely man. Thanks and have fun
[01:11] <celeryman> thinks for a min then brings me back to $
[01:11] <Taroven> Thanks, laters.
[01:11] <bazhang> Rexter, getting an error is way too vague; provide tons more details
[01:11] <ManateeLazyCat> bazhang: I can write some code fix my problem since i know the principle of update-manager.
[01:12] <taglass> Gunni, --no-install-recommends
[01:13] <Rexter> bazhang, thanks, here is the error, and log. http://pastebin.com/sZq3G8Tu
[01:13] <bazhang> Rexter, what is the chipset, how have you tried to install the drivers, and from where
[01:13] <Gunni> lol that fixed it, thanks taglass. the firefox bull**** doesn't even come anymore when i do a full-upgrade again
[01:14] <Gunni> weird
[01:15] <celeryman> do you want me to type in readout from ifconfig?
[01:15] <bazhang> celeryman, whom are you addressing? type their nick first if you want someone to see and respond
[01:16] <celeryman> bazhang would you like me to type results of ifconfig
[01:16] <Rexter> bazhang, I'm not 100% on the chipset, how can I tell. I'm trying to use the built in additional driver screen in ubuntu. It sees the driver, and says it knows the driver. This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-basedhardware.
[01:16] <bazhang> celeryman, no, the results of sudo dhclient eth0 (no need to paste just say if you get any dhcpoffers/lease
[01:16] <Luxe> Is it just me.
[01:17] <hjaxon_rsb> Maybe someone could help me: I'm having trouble sharing files between ubuntu machines
[01:17] <Luxe> Or does this server keep freezing?
[01:17] <bazhang> luxe just you
[01:17] <celeryman> bazhang, cursor flashes for a min then sends me back to user@user $
[01:17] <bazhang> Rexter, lspci for the chipset, how were the drivers installed
[01:18] <Benkinooby> hi, i have 2 ubuntu installs on my platop. is is possible to chroot to my second install to update the system? i don't want to reboot to the second system jsut to update it
[01:19] <bazhang> celeryman, do you have an ethernet cable attached? sounds like there is not a recognition of your having an ethernet card if no
[01:20] <celeryman> bazhang, cable is connected from router to ethernet card, lspci shows ethernet controller admtek nc100
[01:20] <link_> hello
[01:21] <Rexter> bazhang, Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01). The driver is not installed. that's what i am trying to do. When I had Linux Mint installed, i just used the built in proprietary drivers utility, and it just worked. I'm trying to do the same time on Ubuntu, but  it's giving me the error mentioned above.
[01:21] <link_> I am using irssi what are you using?
[01:21] <bazhang> Rexter, what is the error
[01:21] <bazhang> link_, why is that important
[01:22] <link_> It is my first time using it
[01:22] <bazhang> !quietirssi | link_ you might like this then
[01:22] <link_> I just wanted to know if anyone else was using it
[01:22] <bazhang> link_, sure they are.
[01:23] <Rexter> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/sZq3G8Tu
[01:23] <hjaxon_rsb> Can anyone recommend an easy way to share files between ubuntu machines with different versions installed?
[01:23] <sarthor> Hi. any one know about linux driver for finger print thumb LighTuning
[01:23] <bazhang> Rexter, care to provide a synopsis? was this from additional drivers? did you get it over a wired connection to install?
[01:23] <link_> thanks ubottu but I wasn't planning on staying to long!
[01:24] <Rexter> lol common people bazhang is getting clobbered here.
[01:24] <bazhang> link_, there is also #irssi
[01:24] <bazhang> hjaxon_rsb, why should the version matter
[01:24] <hjaxon_rsb> link_, I've used it before.
[01:24] <Benkinooby> link_, i am migrating form xchat to irssi
[01:25] <hjaxon_rsb> bazhang, since you asked I guess it doesn't
[01:25] <bazhang> sarthor, thats on a thinkpad? thinkwiki might help then
[01:25] <Benkinooby> !bluetooth
[01:25] <bazhang> !nfs | hjaxon_rsb this might help
[01:26] <r3m> Hi, I would like to have a mp3 player that have a module to display a giant speaker or subwoofer to put it in full screen
[01:26] <hjaxon_rsb> nfs just gave me a headache!
[01:26] <Rexter> bazhang, yes it's from the additional drivers lol, I said that like 6 times... you're helping too many people. fun times! :) I am plugged in via ethernet, that's how I'm on the chat right now.
[01:26] <bazhang> hjaxon_rsb, then say what you really want
[01:26] <sarthor> bazhang: i have lenovo, can you help a bit more to waste some of your minutes for me in finding exact link. i did try a lot. but no result. if you afford :)
[01:26] <hjaxon_rsb> bazhang, I'll try that guide!
[01:26] <bazhang> r3m, like a huge icon?
[01:26] <r3m> bazhang: an animated speaker
[01:28] <Heston> what should i use to view root's mail on a default install of 10.04 server?
[01:28] <chaddy> r3m: you could probably set up projectM to do that for you
[01:28] <gomaaz> somebody got experience with yaboot bootloader?
[01:28] <abahkaiyisah> hi all
[01:28] <abahkaiyisah> is ubuntu support for clustering ?
[01:29] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1278144 sarthor check that link, seems the company behind that technology did not have a linux driver as of July of last year
[01:29] <r3m> chaddy: thanks
[01:29] <celeryman> bazhang, i know your busy, just letting you know im still here when you get some time  thanks in advance
[01:29] <chaddy> r3m: no worries, just don't come back asking me how ;)
[01:29] <bazhang> abahkaiyisah, what is the real question, what are you trying to do
[01:30] <Heston> does ubuntu server come with a mail client?
[01:30] <MrPPS> Heston: muts
[01:31] <Rexter> Gomazz, no never heard of it, what are you trying to do?
[01:31] <abahkaiyisah> bazhang: i have 2 pc and i want to make it a cluster server using ubuntu
[01:31] <chaddy> Heston: the installer will ask you if you want to install various mail options
[01:31] <bazhang> abahkaiyisah, two pc's is hardly a cluster. what is the purpose of said "cluster"
[01:31] <MrPPS> bazhang: probably experimentation
[01:31] <Heston> chaddy, ah ok, im using a precompiled image
[01:32] <chaddy> Heston: try typing "mail" at the cli
[01:32] <Heston> chaddy, i tried that first, it's not installed
[01:33] <r3m> chaddy: no update since 2009
[01:33] <chaddy> must be quite a minimal image, then
[01:33] <Heston> it would seem so
[01:33] <Psydoll> how long should i be using ubuntu before i should install it? when will i know if im ready to install it?
[01:33] <bazhang> Psydoll, pardon?
[01:33] <abahkaiyisah> bazhang: sorry for unclear definition. i want to make a clustered server. but i still confuse where to start
[01:34] <bazhang> abahkaiyisah, to do what
[01:34] <Psydoll> bazhang: Im running ubuntu on a live version, i want to know after how long i should install it and use it that way?
[01:34] <Rexter> So I just installed Natty, I did the 32 bit version on a Dell Studio 15 with 4GB Ram, does Natty default to the PAE kernel driver, of do i need to apt-get something?
[01:34] <bazhang> Psydoll, up to you. thats not really a tech support question.
[01:34] <chaddy> Psydoll: how long is a piece of string? whenever you're ready
[01:34] <bazhang> linux-generic-pae will pull in what you need Rexter
[01:34] <Psydoll> bazhang: chaddy : I know its an open ended question but there should be some things i should be able to do before doing that?
[01:35] <abahkaiyisah> bazhang: java application server, database server, mailserver etc.
[01:35] <bazhang> Psydoll, its a chat topic, not a question.   ----> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <chaddy> Psydoll: if you can point and click you're good to go, assuming your hardware is supported in the live version
[01:36] <Psydoll> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:36] <Psydoll> oops
[01:36] <Psydoll> chaddy: yeah i can use the command line a little bit
[01:36] <Rexter> Psydoll. I just use the live version to make sure a distro won't totally fail. The performance hit on the live version makes it not very usable for general purpose use.
[01:36] <bazhang> abahkaiyisah, you can do that with a single machine
[01:37] <Rexter> bazhang, is that the name of the package I should install?
[01:37] <Psydoll> Rexter: the only thing im worried about is having to partition hard drives, i used to use suse 8.3 back in the day in 2003 and it was a painful experience
[01:37] <bazhang> Rexter, yep
[01:37] <chaddy> r3m: it's pretty mature, descended from milkdrop (the visualizer in winamp)
[01:38] <abahkaiyisah> bazhang: i prepare  it for "scale able "
[01:38] <Rexter> psydoll, things are better now-a-days, ubuntu will handle the partitioning for you, unless you have specific needs.
[01:38] <Psydoll> I meant to ask is there a way of customizing the way in which the terminal displays the text, ie font, color etc?
[01:38] <issac> with >1400 people, I'm surprised this place isn't a scrolling nightmare
[01:38] <Psydoll> Rexter: yeah thats what i heard, suse tried to do that aswell but its gui method swallowed something like 99% of the space and left a tiny ammount for windows.
[01:39] <skumara> i was syncing my ipod with banshee. it took too long. so I pull the wire out from usb. and than ubuntu freezes. So i restarted the laptop by power off and on. now ubuntu doesn't automount my ipod. how to fix this?
[01:39] <chaddy> Psydoll: you can set colours and prompts in .bashrc
[01:39] <bazhang> skumara, you just yanked it out without cleanly unmounting it?
[01:40] <chaddy> Psydoll: I usually just set my font size through grub's vga option
[01:40] <skumara> bazhang, yes.
[01:40] <Yukinoroh> hello
[01:40] <caoxiaomin> /admin
[01:40] <caoxiaomin> help
[01:40] <Psydoll> chaddy: how do i get into .bashrc?
[01:40] <bazhang> skumara, thats not good. perhaps corrupted the database for the ipod
[01:40] <bazhang> caoxiaomin, with what
[01:40] <Rexter> bazhang, does this mean I already have it? http://pastebin.com/U9yttPV3
[01:40] <chaddy> Psydoll: any editor
[01:40] <bazhang> Rexter, what does uname -a say
[01:40] <chaddy> Psydoll: I use pico, it's not very taxing
[01:40] <Yukinoroh> What version of Ubuntu should I get for 4GB of memory (not AMD) ?
[01:41] <caoxiaomin> 谁能入侵我的电脑
[01:41] <teetasse> hi, i often see that /boot is on a different partition. why is that? and furhter on, if i want to install two ubuntu systems, can i use the same partition for the /boot folders of both of them?
[01:41] <demonspork> I disabled the compiz unity plug in ccsm so that I could get desktop cube back, but now the window borders have vanished. I tried reenabling them, but it still doesn't return
[01:41] <bazhang> caoxiaomin, english here, chinese in #ubuntu-cn
[01:41] <demonspork> Yukinoroh, which processor do you have?
[01:41] <Yukinoroh> demonspork: intel i5
[01:41] <bazhang> Yukinoroh, 64bit if you wish
[01:42] <demonspork> Yukinoroh, the 32bit edition is capable of seeing the 4GB (a technology called PAE) but you should use the AMD64 build as that is the way of the future and handles it better
[01:42] <Yukinoroh> bazhang: but isn't the 64bit version for AMD cpus only?
[01:42] <bazhang> Yukinoroh, no
[01:42] <demonspork> Yukinoroh, the AMD64 build is not for AMD only
[01:42] <Psydoll> chaddy: sorry im not entirely sure what .bashrc is it the linux version of a .ini?
[01:42] <Kardos> .bashrc is what your bash shell runs when it starts
[01:42] <Kardos> usually contains aliases and environment variables
[01:42] <demonspork> Psychobudgie, .bashrc is a script the executes when you start a bash shell. So a .bashrc in the root of your home folder will run whenever you open up a terminal with bash
[01:43] <Yukinoroh> but why did they call it AMD64 then? (°e°)
[01:43] <chaddy> Psydoll: you'll find it hidden in your home directory
[01:43] <demonspork> Yukinoroh, because it complies with the AMD64 standard, which is also compatible with intel
[01:43] <bazhang> Yukinoroh, it works on intel.
[01:43] <Rexter> Psydoll, you will get a lot of different opinions here, but the fact is you shouldn't sweat it. If it was me, I would manually create two partitions, one SWAP partition 1.5 times your system RAM size, and one other partition mounted at / for the rest of the available drive, working around, or resizing the Windows partition.
[01:43] <demonspork> Yukinoroh, the Intel 64 bit architecture is technically ia64, but amd64 builds will work on both
[01:44] <eoss> anyone help me with installing proftpd? ive set my config file up and trying to start it and i am getting this error: ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[01:44] <demonspork> and is recommended that you use it
[01:44] <skumara> bazhang, how to fix corrupted ipod database?
[01:44] <Psydoll> chaddy: Rexter thanks
[01:44] <fyargh> hi. i resized some partitions for my ubuntu installation and now it's not accepting my password for whatever reason. any help?
[01:45] <Rexter> bazhang, i don't understand your question.
[01:45] <skumara> bazhang, i don't think ipod database corrupted as my songs and videos still there in my ipod.
[01:45] <Zerloch> skumura, have you tried TestDisk?
[01:45] <skumara> zerloch what is testdisk and how to get it?
[01:46] <biami> skumara, connect ipod, open banshee and check if it appears...
[01:47] <rinkukokiri> ubuntu 11.04 am i supposed to have a "visual effects" tab in the appearances dialog?
[01:47] <Zerloch> skumura, it's a program to repair lost partitions..
[01:47] <skumara> biami ipod did not appear in banshee. ipod folder did not appear in desktop also. when i lsusb i get Bus 002 Device 004: ID 05ac:129e Apple, Inc.
[01:48] <chaddy> rinkukokiri: no
[01:48] <biami> Zerloch, if the songs are in the ipod, then the partition is alright...
[01:48] <Yukinoroh> is there a way to install ubuntu from a small installer and it'll only download what I need?
[01:48] <rinkukokiri> chaddy, then how do i enable/disable them ??
[01:48] <chaddy> rinkukokiri: check synaptic for compiz packages
[01:48] <Zerloch> skumura, you can google it, it comes with PhotoRec (to recover files). Go to google and read the manuals on the official website, it may help.
[01:48] <skumara> zerlock testdisk only show my hard disk. it did not show ipod
[01:48] <biami> try itunes on windows to check if it appears there
[01:48] <chaddy> rinkukokiri: there are two, one's simple, one's more advanced, the titles witll tell you which is which
[01:49] <rinkukokiri> chaddy, already have ccsm installed, just thought that tab should still be there
[01:49] <skumara> zerlock testdisk available in ubuntu software centre
[01:49] <chaddy> rinkukokiri: I did too, but no
[01:49] <Zerloch> biami, yes. I miss understood, sorry.
[01:49] <biami> skumara, try itunes on windows to check if it appears there
[01:51] <caoxiaomin> what are you doing ?
[01:52] <chaddy> wish I knew, caoxiaomin
[01:52] <rinkukokiri> chaddy, see... this even says it should be there though https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-classic/desktop-effects/C/compiz-configure.html
[01:53] <Rexter> I'm still hoping someone might be able to help me with my wire driver issue. I have a Dell Studio 15 with a fresh install of 11.04. the chipset is Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[01:53] <chaddy> rinkukokiri: maybe that's where the simpler package installs it's gui element?
[01:53] <rinkukokiri> could be
[01:54] <chaddy> it's ccsm I've got too, but a lot of the features are just plain harmful these days
[01:54] <chaddy> perhaps it's on the way out
[01:54] <rinkukokiri> now i get "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  simple-ccsm: " with no other details
[01:54] <chaddy> Rexter: what's the issue?
[01:55] <Rexter> I'm using the additional driver utility to try to install the driver. Here is the error, and the log http://pastebin.com/U9yttPV3
[01:55] <rinkukokiri> compiz-core : Breaks: simple-ccsm (< 0.9) but 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed   ??
[01:55] <rinkukokiri> what the frak
[01:56] <skumara> biami, ipod was autodetect and mount in itunes. i can see my files from itunes
[01:57] <Rexter> rinkukokiri, I was trying to install simple-ccsm on Linux Mint 11 earlier, and It absolutely wouldn't work. Might be related.
[01:57] <Guest67030> how can i remove "[34]" from an echo-output? "sed s/'[34]'//" wouldnt work...?
[01:57] <Rexter> chaddy, any ideas?
[01:57] <rinkukokiri> Rexter, found it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/simple-ccsm/+bug/775128
[01:58] <chaddy> Rexter: I don't see an error in that pastebin?
[01:58] <rinkukokiri> ^^ another reason why UNITY SUCKS
[01:58] <chaddy> just an installed package
[01:58] <Corey> rinkukokiri: Not helpful.
[01:58] <Rexter> chaddy, is my link broke?
[01:58] <chaddy> might not be what you think it was
[01:59] <Zyw> hello
[01:59] <rinkukokiri> Corey, you're right, uninstalling compiz and unity does nothing to correct my original issue.
[01:59] <Corey> rinkukokiri: Neither does complaining about the OS-- that's what -offtopic is for.
[01:59] <Rexter> chaddy, oops too many pastes! http://pastebin.com/sZq3G8Tu
[01:59] <chaddy> I'm getting used to unity, quite like it, except when it gets in front of full screen windows
[02:00] <rinkukokiri> Rexter, Confirmed but that's not a bug, simple-ccsm doesn't work with compiz-0.9 it would need to be updated for the new compiz
[02:00] <rinkukokiri> Rexter, that's fromt he bug i found
[02:00] <Zyw> How to use IRC?
[02:00] <skumara> i can see my ipod when i press lsusb. i can connect ipod to itunes via virtualbox. but i can't see my ipod mounted in desktop! i can't see my ipod in banshee. anyone know how to get ipod connected to ubuntu?
[02:00] <Zyw> who can tell me ?
[02:00] <rinkukokiri> Rexter, which is probably why the "visual effects" tab was removed from ubuntu 11.04
[02:01] <Rexter> Zyw, http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[02:02] <biami> skumar: install gtkpod
[02:03] <biami> skumara, install gtkpod
[02:03] <Zyw> ok,thanks
[02:03] <skumara> biami alrady got gtkpod
[02:03] <linusA> pulse audio starts, but am unable to connect using  pavucontrol or sound preferences. I have deleted ~/.pulse and removed and installed pulseaudio packages many times. any suggestions?
[02:03] <Rexter> rinkukokiri, yea, you'll have to learn about the full CCSM, but I've heard that it's really easy to break Unity if you mess with CCSM.  Be careful, CCSM is not designed to deal with conflicts from Unity.
[02:03] <chaddy> Rexter: could you possibly try to install just the wireless driver and post the errors from just that? looks like you were installing everything at once in that last one
[02:04] <biami> skumara, then i am sorry... gotilla...
[02:04] <Lasivian> ok, simple question, how do I do a wildcard search with a space in it? IE. "ls *name .ext" ? thanks
[02:05] <Rexter> I don't know what all is logged in Jockey.log. I'm only trying to install this one thing. This is the only proprietary driver available. What would you have me do?
[02:05] <chaddy> Lasivian: escape the space like this ls *name\ .ext
[02:05] <Lasivian> chaddy: thanks
[02:05] <chaddy> Rexter: ok, I'll look again
[02:06] <biami> skumara, itunes using wine should work... rhythmbox supports ipod too...
[02:06] <perko> somehow i have created the only user account without admin priviledges, any idea how to change that?
[02:06] <rinkukokiri> Rexter, i have ccsm installed and don't use unity (bcause it sucks)
[02:07] <westz> ...has anyone here had any success running the freecell from windows 7 in wine?
[02:07] <rinkukokiri> lololol
[02:07] <linusA> @perko you only user wont have admin privlages. this would be unsafe
[02:07] <rinkukokiri> lemmie try it hold on
[02:07] <Corey> !wine | westz
[02:08] <Rexter> rinkukokiri, are you on 11.04, and what GUI are you using?
[02:08] <jar> @ perko try to sudo a command or give root a password, if you need help pm
[02:08] <westz> i'm not asking how to do it, im asking if anyone has
[02:08] <linusA> the first user created password will be used to enable super user mode
[02:08] <phrostbite> Is there an application like a remote desktop viewer for monitoring a windows 7 machine with an ubuntu laptop?
[02:08] <litropy> I'm looking for a program that would take an image as input and output (raw is good, csv is better, mysql is best) the color value (hex, rgb, doesn't matter) of pixels at specified coordinates.
[02:08] <Rexter> I have a 11.04 kubuntu machine, and it seems to work good. I haven't messed with compiz yet.
[02:09] <perko> jar: it wont let me give root apassword as it says i don't have priveledges
[02:09] <Corey> rinkukokiri: Yes, you don't like it.  Please stop slamming it here.
[02:09] <linusA> @preko dont give root a password it is insecure
[02:09] <rinkukokiri> Rexter, yea 110.4 and i login using the "ubuntu classic" login
[02:09] <linusA> use sudo or sudo su if you must
[02:09] <^Mike> Where can I find documentation on mount options for ext4?
[02:10] <green91> man mount
[02:10] <rinkukokiri> Corey, me and Rexter  are having a conversation, sorry if it bothers you.
[02:10] <biami> unity is over-criticized... its not that bad.
[02:10] <perko> linusA: so do i need to install all programs through terminal then?
[02:10] <Corey> !ot
[02:10] <linusA> no
[02:10] <biami> perko, no... try Synaptic Package Manager
[02:10] <chaddy> Rexter: can't find the error in that, eyes might be tired, you could perhaps build the module yourself
[02:10] <linusA> you can still use synaptic package manager or the ubuntu software center
[02:11] <chaddy> Rexter: just warnings and debugs I'm seeing, can't isolate why it's failing
[02:11] <linusA> gksu is the graphical version of sudo and it is incorporated in those programs
[02:11] <Rexter> chaddy, I'd love to do so. i have no idea how. :)
[02:11] <Jasonn> How do I set locales?
[02:11] <perko> it's asking for ubuntu password when i try to install wine through ubuntu software centre as well
[02:11] <PortalGunz> Does the latest LTS come with FF4 ?
[02:11] <PortalGunz> Or 3?
[02:12] <linusA> enter the password of the first user you created
[02:12] <jar> Does anyone here have experience.. with Ruby installation on 10.04 i might have a newbie question about.. path to rail (default :-( )
[02:12] <biami> ya... you need to be superuser
[02:12] <notnotpeter> evening folks.  I managed to corrupt my /boot partition.  What's the easiest way to go about recreating it and installing grub on the mbr? (ubuntu8_64 server btw)
[02:12] <chaddy> Rexter: what's the part again? I'll have a quick google for you
[02:12] <perko> so how do i run as superuser
[02:12] <biami> by typing your password
[02:12] <Rexter> chaddy, Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[02:13] <linusA> if you want to be superuser in a terminal do sudo su
[02:13] <perko> tried that
[02:13] <linusA> but when running a desktop session it is insecure and usually trouble some to be root
[02:13] <perko> linusA: what about superuser outside terminal
[02:13] <Rexter> notnotpeter, use a live CD, reinstall grub
[02:14] <green91> what are you trying to run as root?
[02:14] <biami> perko, when Synap Pack Man asks ur password, type it...
[02:14] <jar> so much love
[02:14] <linusA> many items of the xwindows desktop do not like to be run as super yser
[02:15] <perko> when i typein my password it just comes back with error
[02:15] <jar> what is the error
[02:15] <newbbb> hey guys im trying to add a terminal app to my menu but it just blinks and goes off when i click on it in the gnome menu
[02:15] <biami> perko, what error???
[02:15] <newbbb> how do i add terminal apps?
[02:15] <Ricoshady> my main partition ran out of space and I up'ed the disk image size (vmware)... how do I resize the partition, it looks like ext4?
[02:15] <perko> incorrect password
[02:15] <Guest67030> Hi all! how can i ged rid of the [*]-patterns in the following Standard-Output: "[20]man [21]sagt; [22]es [23]heißt [24]they [25]say" .. i tried to pipe it through sed, but couldnt find the right syntax..
[02:15] <termleech> i'm trying to install wubi ubuntu 11.04 on a windows 7 professional 64 bit
[02:15] <green91> perko you will probably need to boot single user and reset the root password.
[02:16] <termleech> however I am getting an error message that sysnative\bcdedit.exe could not execute command
[02:16] <termleech> can anyone help please?
[02:16] <david18801>  anyone getting quicken working
[02:16] <biami> perko, check case...
[02:16] <perko> green91: how do i do that?
[02:16] <notnotpeter> rexter: yeah, that's what I've been fiddling with. but when I do 'find /boot/grub/stage1' it doesn't find anything (cause my /boot is now empty)
[02:16] <david18801> i followed the guide on wine but it crashes?>
[02:16] <chaddy> Rexter: try in a terminal: sudo aptitude reinstall bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:16] <linusA> @perko http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[02:17] <biami> newbbb, what is terminal app?
[02:17] <rinkukokiri> westz, just tried, looked it up in appdb and they only have the win98se version running in wine
[02:17] <green91> http://www.debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub
[02:17] <rinkukokiri> it attempts to run but then nogo
[02:17] <linusA> @biami ctrl+atl+t
[02:17] <newbbb> just a c++ thing i did at school
[02:18] <chaddy> Rexter: probably need a reboot after that
[02:18] <newbbb> i run it currently by just ./file
[02:18] <biami> linusA, that's the terminal
[02:18] <biami> newbbb, drag and drop
[02:18] <newbbb> i can drag n drop o_O
[02:18] <david18801> hey.. is there a channel for ubuntu cloud
[02:18] <litropy> !computers
[02:19] <linusA> you asked what is terminal app? sorry id I misunderstood
[02:19] <Zerloch> misunderstood = )
[02:19] <caoxiaomin> 123
[02:19] <perko> also, anyone know how to get 32 bit wine running on 64 ubuntu?
[02:19] <rinkukokiri> westz and here's what i get upon a terminal > wine freecell.exe
[02:19] <Laserbeak43> hello
[02:20] <chaddy> perko: you'll need the ia32libs
[02:20] <rinkukokiri> westz, http://pastebin.com/PyCAKdF1
[02:20] <perko> chaddy: where do i get those from?
[02:20] <chaddy> ia32-libs*
[02:20] <phrostbite> Is there an application like a remote desktop viewer for monitoring a windows 7 machine with an ubuntu laptop?
[02:20] <chaddy> aptitude or synaptic, perko
[02:20] <newbbb> dragg n drop didnt work
[02:20] <perko> cheers
[02:20] <green91> phrostbite i prefer vnc
[02:21] <phrostbite> vnc?
[02:21] <Rexter> notnotpeter, I had to do it after killing the boot trac by installing windows after linux. I remember it being pretty easy, and simplistic.  maybe this? http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.com/2011/06/recover-grub-live-ubuntu-cd.html
[02:21] <chaddy> phrostbite: there are a few, I favour nomachine's nxclient and nxserver
[02:21] <chaddy> but they are propretary, I think
[02:21] <phrostbite> oh
[02:21] <chaddy> proprietary*
[02:21] <green91> ive not looked, but i bet theres a rdp client for linux as well
[02:22] <linusA> pulseaudio server starts but pavucontrol reports Connection failed: Connection refused. I have deleted ~/.pulse and removed and installed pulseaudio packages several times. Any suggestions?
[02:22] <chrome_> when I open the ubuntu one control panel, it says that an Internet connection is required and does not allow me to join. What can I do?
[02:22] <linusA> @chrome_ fix your network
[02:22] <biami> newbbb, what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:22] <linusA> does a webrowser work?
[02:22] <chrome_> linusA: my network is fine, what do you mean
[02:22] <chrome_> I have full access to the Internet
[02:23] <Rexter> chaddy, sudo: aptitude: command not found
[02:23] <perko> sudo commands not working, any ideas?
[02:23] <newbbb> i just wana be able to click on the gnome menu  go to the program i want to run and have it open up in terminal
[02:23] <linusA> do the two arrows show up in your top gnome panel?
[02:23] <chaddy> Rexter: misplaced colon
[02:23] <westz> rinkukokiri, yeah i get the exact same error
[02:23] <newbbb> some stuff works, others dont when i add it
[02:23] <perko> returns error: user is not in the sudoers file
[02:24] <johwil> how to change the log-in screen?
[02:25] <chaddy> johwil: cli or X?
[02:25] <green91> phrostbite: look at tsclient, it connects to RDP which wouldn't require you to install any software on the windows pc, just enable remote connections
[02:25] <tagza> Hi, can someone please help me get optimal resolution my GFX card is an ATI Radeon HD 4670 running ubuntu 10.04 (upgrading as i write) currently the resolution is 1600x1200 @60hz when it should be at 1680x1050 @59hz (dont know if the extra 1hz makes a difference) i have installed the prosperity drivers from ATI however this only gives me the option to use 1600x1200 reolution and below.
[02:25] <linusA> @johwil system/administration/Login Screen
[02:25] <johwil> chaddy: Gnome
[02:26] <chrome_> how can I see the version of ubuntu that I have?
[02:26] <biami> johwil: try startupmanager
[02:26] <green91> uname -a
[02:26] <Rexter> chaddy, I don't understand
[02:26] <johwil> ok thank you linusA
[02:26] <linusA> @chrome system/about ubuntu
[02:26] <chaddy> Rexter: just copy and paste the command into a terminal, ignore colons, they are punctuation
[02:26] <Firefishe> chrome_: lab_release -a
[02:26] <phrostbite> ok green91 I will look into it thank you
[02:27] <Firefishe> lab_release -a rather
[02:27] <phrostbite> green91, that would be easiest because its my grandmas computer and she has no idea what she is doing and I am 2k miles away lol.
[02:27] <Firefishe> Blasted auto complete
[02:27] <chrome_> ty
[02:27] <fikri> hi ppl
[02:27] <fikri> may i ask about vbox?
[02:27] <chaddy> don't ask to ask
[02:28] <chaddy> just ask
[02:28] <fikri> haha
[02:28] <green91> phorstbite: since its RDP she will have to have remote desktop connections enabled and also the user acct on the windows box will have to have a PW since rdp doesnt allow blank passwords
[02:28] <Firefishe> chrome_: lsb_release -a
[02:28] <Firefishe> Finally!
[02:28] <tagza> can anyone help please ?
[02:28] <fikri> everytime i start vbox, it asks for modprobe vboxnetflt.ko..
[02:28] <green91> and also, it wont let you watch her screen realtime.. but it will let you log in remotely and administer the pc
[02:28] <Rexter> chaddy,
[02:28] <fikri> i did insmod ...vboxnetflt.ko
[02:28] <Rexter> mike@Ubuntu-Studio-1537:~$ sudo aptitude reinstall bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:28] <Rexter> [sudo] password for mike:
[02:28] <Rexter> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[02:28] <Rexter> mike@Ubuntu-Studio-1537:~$
[02:28] <FloodBot1> Rexter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <fikri> and vbox can run..
[02:28] <biami> newbbb, that's a complex process... you need to package your app for ubuntu into a deb file and install it... or you can add a launcher (but i don't know how to do that)...
[02:28] <fikri> but when i reboot... it asks again..
[02:29] <chaddy> ok, Rexter, sorry s/aptitude/apt-get
[02:29] <newbbb> its the launcher im trying to add :)
[02:29] <Rexter> chaddy, sorry, I'm too much of a noob to understand how to apply half-commands.
[02:29] <[Raiden]> Rexter: sudo apt-get install --reinstall bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:30] <linusA> @biami deb packages are just compressed archives with a specific directory structure and file list
[02:30] <Rexter> ah.....
[02:30] <Firefishe> tagza: what is your issue?
[02:30] <green91> deb packages also easily identify/notify you of other package dependencies
[02:30] <biami> linusA,  and configurations too...
[02:31] <westz> i cant find ANY documentation on this
[02:31] <chaddy> Rexter: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:31] <westz> and why is the #wine channel invite only?
[02:32] <chaddy> westz: try #winehq
[02:32] <xangua> !register | westz
[02:32] <tagza> @Firefishe my gfx card is suposed to be showing resolution at 1680x1050@59hz but instead its showing 1600x1200@60hz ive installed the drivers but there isnt an option for 1680x1050 resolution
[02:32] <teage> Ok, I can not uninstall a program. program is called briscad and im using lucid. tried apt-get remove and software center. nothing.
[02:32] <green91> does your monitor even support 1680x1050?
[02:33] <westz> xangua, thanks, im already registered
[02:33] <tagza> yes, it has done with other versions of ubuntu but for some reason this time it doesnt
[02:33] <tagza> iam duel booting it with w7
[02:33] <chaddy> I know who'll win that duel
[02:33] <Firefishe> teague: try using syntactic
[02:34] <bazhang> teage, how was it installed. there does not seem to be a package called briscad in the repos
[02:34] <Firefishe> synaptic rather
[02:34] <jar> Does anyone here have experience.. with Ruby installation on 10.04 i might have a newbie question about.. path to rail (default :-( )
[02:34] <biami> teage, find it on Synaptic Package Manager, right click, select 'Mark for Complete Removal' and hit apply.
[02:34] <ravyn> Is it possible, running two monitors of different sizes, to duplicate Unity's bar on both monitors?
[02:34] <Shaba1> Hello folks. Are the any wubi specific forums,chat rooms, or other things on the net. Other then the default ubuntu web page that shows you how to install it ?
[02:34] <bazhang> jar, better to check their documents and ask in a ruby channel
[02:34] <green91> tagza: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[02:34] <bazhang> !alis | jar
[02:34] <biami> jar: not your night... try on Ruby's channel
[02:35] <phrostbite> hey green91 does that terminal server require you to be on the same network?
[02:35] <teage> bazhang: its a commercial cad software a lot like autocad. Installed the trial of it from the website.
[02:35] <tagza> @green91 thanks very much
[02:35] <IdleOne> Shaba1: you can ask in here or you might try ask.ubuntu.com
[02:35] <jar> i tried.. but very rude people i googled for last 45 minutes. unfortently
[02:35] <bazhang> Shaba1, there is a wubi guide sure
[02:35] <IdleOne> Shaba1: sorry that is askubuntu.com
[02:35] <bazhang> teage, then check the installer script, should be an uninstaller as well. unless it was a .deb, was it?
[02:35] <Datura> ..
[02:36] <teage> bazhang: yes
[02:36] <Nobgul-BNC> How would i go about, updating only tcl,
[02:36] <Rexter> chaddy, saw an error in there, but might be nothing. going down for reboot. BRB http://pastebin.com/ZbeuypfP
[02:36] <bazhang> Shaba1, did you have a specific wubi question?
[02:36] <chaddy> Rexter: what was the error?
[02:36] <chaddy> pastebin
[02:36] <teage> bazhang: cant find it in synaptic either.
[02:36] <chaddy> oh dear
[02:37] <green91> phrostbite: as long as she doesnt have a firewall blocking it, should work. may require port forwarding her on part if she has a router
[02:37] <bazhang> teage, then use dpkg to unistall the .deb
[02:37] <nophone> sweet i got my screen installed :) running irssi in the background :)
[02:37] <phrostbite> green91, ok thank you. So just enable it on her machine and then get the ip and good to go?
[02:37] <green91> yea ideally
[02:37] <teage> bazhang: How would I use dpkg. I have not ever used it before. Just sofware center and apt-get is all I have ever done.
[02:38] <Shaba1> IdleOne and bazhang everytime I ask in here someone just tells me to partition my hd and install a "true ubuntu" distro.
[02:38] <bazhang> Nobgul-BNC, sudo apt-get upgrade tcl ? you mean that? or did you want to compile a version/add a PPA
[02:38] <Shaba1> So I just have stopped asking
[02:38] <bazhang> Shaba1, care to ask again, or not
[02:38] <IdleOne> Shaba1: because wubi is considered by many to be a "testing" install.
[02:38] <chaddy> Shaba1: please ask again
[02:38] <Nobgul-BNC> bazhang, when i try to update tcl it says that it is already up to date. there is tcl 8.4 on my system and 8.5 in the repos, it says it has to be manually installed.
[02:38] <biami> teage, doesn't my method work???
[02:38] <bazhang> Shaba1, please ask a specific question
[02:39] <bazhang> biami, it would not, no
[02:39] <teage> biami: which method was that?
[02:39] <Shaba1> Well I do not have a specific question right now. I am on the windows side of my machine. I was on wubi/ubuntu 11.04 but it crashed.
[02:39] <teage> biami: synaptic?
[02:39] <Rexter> chaddy, you still here?
[02:40] <chaddy> Rexter: yes
[02:40] <chaddy> just
[02:40] <chaddy> any joy?
[02:40] <bazhang> Shaba1, so you want to know about the crash? thats a rather broad subject, I am afraid
[02:40] <westz> winehq is a dead channel...
[02:40] <biami> teage, ya... right click, mark, remove
[02:40] <bazhang> westz, so be patient
[02:40] <Rexter> chaddy, I'm back, holy crap, i can't believe how fast this thing reboots.
[02:40] <Rexter> chaddy, ok did you take a look at that pastbin?
[02:41] <westz> i dont have any time, i've got an annoying old woman on my back trying to play solitaire v.v;;;
[02:41] <nophone> how do i change my default nick in irssi?
[02:41] <green91> phrostbite: if rdp ends up not working, you may want to take a look at teamviewer.com.. although i'll admit ive never used their linux client before
[02:41] <chaddy> yes, looked ok, no serious errors
[02:41] <teage> biami: does not matter at this point I guess, it really is a nice software. I will worry about uninstall , maybe, when trial runs out.
[02:41] <teage> biami: it is not there
[02:41] <bazhang> westz, check the appdb or use other software
[02:41] <chaddy> nophone: /msg nickserv help
[02:41] <bazhang> !appdb | westz
[02:41] <phrostbite> Thank you green91
[02:41] <teage> thanks guys
[02:41] <bazhang> westz, repeatedly asking for something no one knows won't get it answered any faster
[02:41] <green91> phrostbite: not a prob! it does look like teamviewer has .deb pkg for 32 & 64bit too
[02:41] <xangua> westz: lots of solitarie games already on ubuntu
[02:42] <Pici> nophone: /set nick, also #irssi
[02:42] <nophone> chaddy: that's not what i meant. i meant in the settings of irssi
[02:42] <Shaba1> bazhang or IdleOne could either of you put in that url with the http:// in it so I can just click to open it and bookmark it. I got caught in the scroll
[02:42] <chaddy> nophone: sorry, tired, should really just go to bed ;)
[02:42] <nophone> when i launch irssi i want it to try to log in with a diferent nickname than it tries to
[02:43] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide Shaba1
[02:43] <nophone> chaddy: me to man
[02:43] <westz> xangua, she wont settle, she's addicted to the windoze version's score sheet
[02:43] <bazhang> westz, then check the appdb as I suggested
[02:43] <nophone> Pici: so if i /set nick and quit irssi and launch it again it will start off as nophone instead of durandal?
[02:43] <westz> bazhang, i did, only mentions the win98 version
[02:44] <bazhang> westz, it may well not run then
[02:44] <chris_peng> Heloo
[02:44] <chris_peng> hello
[02:44] <nophone> many thank-you's sir
[02:44] <chaddy> or noone's been daft enough to try
[02:44] <bazhang> chris_peng, hi
[02:44] <Shaba1> I have read that bazhang thanks
[02:44] <westz> oi, they can run WoW with full 3d but they cant run solitaire *facepalm*
[02:44] <Shaba1> it must have been IdleOne that mentioned a site
[02:44] <IdleOne> www.askubuntu.com
[02:45] <Datura> ser
[02:45] <bazhang> Shaba1, if you have a specific wubi question I can help, but "crashed" is not clear enough
[02:45] <Pici> nophone: be sure to /save after doing so
[02:45] <biami> westz, try AisleRiot Solitaire
[02:45] <westz> is there a reliable way to search by error? googling it gives me nada
[02:46] <westz> biami, i tried, she doesnt like it. she wants the thing that generates a specific game from a seed
[02:46] <Rexter> chaddy, are you there?
[02:46] <bazhang> westz, if it is not in the appdb it may well not run. be patient in #winehq or try another solitaire game
[02:46] <biami> :)
[02:46] <chaddy> Rexter: yes
[02:46] <Shaba1> I know bazhang. I have answer enough blender question here on freenode to know that when you ask something you need to be specifice.
[02:46] <Rexter> chaddy, did any om me messages about it working come through?
[02:47] <chaddy> not that I noticed, all good, then?
[02:47] <Shaba1> But this was yesterday. I think I was reading a forum and downloading spe and all of a sudden I got a black screen of scrolling death :)
[02:47] <Shaba1> I had to hit the power switch to get out of it.
[02:47] <Rexter> chaddy, yea let me start over.... It works! it works! I'm on wireless now, thank you!
[02:48] <westz> but hey, if anyone knows of a version of freecell that has a game generator based on a seed, and will save/load where you left off, i'd LOVE to know
[02:48] <chaddy> no worries, just so you know, all I did was google the part number "bc23423 (or whatever) ubuntu" top link fixed it
[02:49] <Rexter> chaddy, so please explain to me what we did.
[02:49] <chaddy> you installed the driver by the command line because the gui tool failed
[02:50] <Rexter> chaddy, but we use that --reinstall what is that?
[02:50] <chaddy> the gui tool was probably just trying to be too clever
[02:50] <chaddy> --reinstall was redundant, your error showed it hadn't been installed in the first instance
[02:51] <Shaba1> Oh I do have one specific question
[02:51] <Nobgul-BNC> Is there anyway to force install a program via apt-get install?
[02:51] <Shaba1> I have a creative live web cam.
[02:51] <Rexter> chaddy, I tried apt-get install whatever-kernel-source, it said it was already installed.
[02:51] <Guest67030> which program acts like "less" but does leave the output available in the Terminal after eof?
[02:52] <bazhang> Nobgul-BNC, why would you need to
[02:52] <Shaba1> I looked on thier site but did not see any linux drivers
[02:52] <biami> Nobgul-BNC, huh?
[02:52] <Shaba1> is there a way to get it working under linux?
[02:52] <bazhang> Shaba1, did you check the ubuntu webcam list?
[02:52] <Nobgul-BNC> having the issue where i removed tcl8.4 but tcl 8.5 will not install says i have to do it manually
[02:52] <Shaba1> No I did not. I did not know that there was such a thing.
[02:52] <chaddy> Rexter: sorry misread the error, it may have installed but it hadn't built or modprobed the module
[02:52] <biami> what do you mean 'force' install?
[02:52] <bazhang> !webcam | Shaba1 this may help
[02:52] <chaddy> so it wasn't in use
[02:53] <biami> Nobgul-BNC, what do you mean 'force' install?
[02:53] <relouordi> Hi, i am from brazil, my english dont's very good..
[02:53] <relouordi> i need help with empathy
[02:53] <Jasonn> !brazil | biami
[02:53] <bazhang> relouordi, what is the question
[02:54] <Jasonn> !brazil | relouordi
[02:54] <biami> Jasonn, what???
[02:54] <Rexter> chaddy, cool man thank you so much.
[02:54] <Jasonn> biami: sorry, was for someone else
[02:54] <bazhang> Jasonn, he's speaking english
[02:54] <relouordi> ubottu ninguem responde lá
[02:54] <biami> cool
[02:54] <chaddy> Rexter: no worries
[02:54] <Nobgul-BNC> biami, I may just be tired ignopre me for the time being.
[02:54] <relouordi> i need help with empathy, dont connect with live acc
[02:55] <biami> Nobgul-BNC, k... get a beer.
[02:55] <Jasonn> bazhang: But dont you think he would get better help in his naitive language?
[02:55] <Nobgul-BNC> biami, i wish i am at work =X
[02:55] <bazhang> relouordi, windows live messenger account?
[02:55] <Rexter> chaddy, where did you say you found that info, do you have a link?
[02:55] <relouordi> yes
[02:55] <bazhang> Jasonn, he says no one responds and is speaking english no need to jump the gun
[02:55] <bazhang> relouordi, what is the error
[02:56] <chaddy> Rexter: http://blog.smartcube.co.za/2010/03/15/broadcom-bcm4322-wireless-on-ubuntu-karmic/
[02:56] <bazhang> !away > JasonnAWAY
[02:56] <relouordi> O recurso ja esta usando o servidor
[02:57] <bazhang> relouordi, you need to speak english here
[02:57] <relouordi> =s
[02:57] <relouordi> sorry
[02:57] <InfiniteSet> Hello, I downloaded package(s) from the synaptic package manager, and I installed it (I think), how do I run it, I can't find it in my applications?
[02:57] <bazhang> sounds like a server issue
[02:57] <bazhang> InfiniteSet, what package
[02:57] <InfiniteSet> qorganizer I think
[02:57] <relouordi> This (feature) is connected on server
[02:57] <westz> InfiniteSet, go to stnaptic and look at it in the installed packages list
[02:58] <bazhang> InfiniteSet, what does alt-f2 appname do
[02:58] <InfiniteSet> How would I do that?
[02:58] <bsmith093> i recently downgraded for firefox 4 to the default ubuntufox version, and now all of my adddons wont install, annoying restart loop that does nothing
[02:58] <westz> InfiniteSet, sorry not synaptic, i meant the Ubuntu Software Center
[02:59] <bazhang> bsmith093, thats a firefox issue
[02:59] <InfiniteSet> oh okay
[02:59] <westz> look at the installed packages and see if it's in there
[02:59] <bsmith093> bazhang: ok so? i figure its popular enought that somwone has a clue
[02:59] <westz> InfiniteSet, if it isnt, it might need to be run from terminal. out of curiosity, what package?
[02:59] <InfiniteSet> I looked at the installed software and it is not there
[02:59] <bazhang> bsmith093, why downgrade? try the firefox support forums
[03:00] <InfiniteSet> qorganizer
[03:00] <bazhang> InfiniteSet, try from the run --> alt f2
[03:00] <Rexter> chaddy, thanks hopefully this will be helpful to others. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26010174-Ubuntu-11.04-proprietary-wireless-driver
[03:00] <InfiniteSet> What does that do?
[03:00] <phrostbite> green91, Sorry for another question but I am behind a router. DO I need to change ports to connect?
[03:00] <bazhang> InfiniteSet, runs the program
[03:00] <green91> you shouldnt
[03:00] <bazhang> green91, pardon?
[03:01] <Shaba1> thanks a lot bazhang and IdleOne
[03:01] <InfiniteSet> oh I see, thank you, you guys :)
[03:01] <green91> phrostbite: you shouldnt have to do anything on your end, if your mom has a router she may have to set port forwarding
[03:01] <westz> InfiniteSet, press alt+f2 and a run dialog will come up. type "qorganizer" in it (without quotes) and run
[03:01] <phrostbite> She is not behind any router
[03:02] <green91> and she will need to have remote desktop connections enabled from the system control panel
[03:02] <phrostbite> I have the ip address and I set it to access a windows machine and she has it all enabled.
[03:02] <chaddy> Rexter: good work
[03:02] <phrostbite> She does not have a username or password. when she boots up it automatically goes right to her desktop
[03:02] <litropy> what program or library would I use to output the color values of pixels at specified coordinates?
[03:02] <Shaba1> btw I am not a complete computer newbie. I use to be a self taught windows network manager (40 workstations,2 servers, 1 video server 12 client wireless security camera network) before the economy went to hell and I took a janitorial job in order to keep a roof over my head.
[03:02] <Rexter> Ok next question! Is there a way to move the dock in Unity from the left side to the bottom?
[03:03] <westz> phrostbite, all windows machines have a username and usually a pass, but its not always required to login
[03:03] <cola_kid> this wouldnt be a help channel by any chance would it?
[03:03] <Shaba1> the point is I am just delving into linux in order to make myself re-employable
[03:03] <bazhang> cola_kid, whats the support question
[03:03] <xangua> Rexter: not that i know
[03:03] <phrostbite> westz how would I find that info out?
[03:03] <green91> phrostbite: windows rdp requires a user/password to connect. she can  look in the user control panel
[03:04] <phrostbite> ok
[03:04] <cola_kid> i managed to wipe my external hd when i installed a fresh copy of ubuntu.. wasnt paying attention
[03:04] <westz> phrostbite, i believe having her go to control panel> users will give the username
[03:04] <phrostbite> what if there is no password? just create one?
[03:04] <bazhang> cola_kid, want to undelete?
[03:04] <westz> phrostbite, what version of windows is it? (havent been paying attention to this)
[03:04] <green91> yes she will have to have one
[03:05] <phrostbite> windows 7
[03:05] <westz> phrostbite, windows 7 requires a password, so she already has one, im not sure of an easy way to figure out what it is remotely
[03:05] <phrostbite> ok
[03:05] <bazhang> cola_kid, is that it?
[03:06] <Rexter> xangua, can you just get rid on the dock, and just use cairo dock or something?
[03:06] <cola_kid> yes.. i messed with testdisk but didnt really get anywhere.. the exact problem is this.. on instalation i thought i was deleting a second partition on the main drive. deleted the partition and installed what i thought was onto the main drive but it went on the external instead
[03:06] <green91> phrostbite: teamviewer may end up being easier, its a simple website for her to load on her end and youll need the client for ubuntu, it has realtime desktop sharing/control aka you both see the same thing
[03:06] <chaddy> night all
[03:06] <westz> okay, have her do this: go to the start menu and type "cmd" in the box at the bottom and press enter
[03:06] <bazhang> Rexter, no way to move the unity dock, just use classic and something like cairo-dock or awn
[03:07] <green91> phrostbite: and requires no port forwarding etc
[03:07] <phrostbite> ok
[03:07] <bazhang> cola_kid, you installed over the external hdd data then?
[03:07] <cola_kid> yes
[03:07] <bazhang> cola_kid, have any backups?
[03:07] <zetheroo> cannot get the bleeding VPN service to start! Please help ..
[03:07] <cola_kid> nope
[03:07] <Rexter> ok, want to play with Unity, not resort back to Gnome. I'll live with it where it is for now.
[03:07] <cola_kid> pics and movies
[03:07] <bazhang> zetheroo, give way more details
[03:08] <Macer> is it possible to assign a drive a uuid?
[03:08] <westz> cola_kid, if you've written data over it, it's gone as far as i know
[03:08] <bazhang> Rexter, or try unity-2d if that is to resource hungry
[03:08] <Macer> as in an entire disk and not a partition?
[03:08] <cola_kid> even after a format the data should still be recoverable shouldnt it?
[03:08] <bazhang> Macer, what are you trying to do? sudo blkid will list them
[03:08] <brokenian> is anyone familiar with ia32-libs
[03:08] <zetheroo> bazhang: I enter all the settings into the pptp vpn dialog ... try to connect and it says that "the vpn service failed to start"
[03:09] <bazhang> brokenian, whats the real question
[03:09] <westz> phrostbite, if you'd still like to get the info for your remote access client, i believe i know a way
[03:09] <cola_kid> testdisk didnt display anything other than the linux on it
[03:09] <bazhang> cola_kid, if you overwrote it with an install? seems to be completely gone then
[03:09] <Macer> bazhang: using a raw disk for virtualbox
[03:10] <zetheroo> bazhang: I have no other details than that :(
[03:10] <biami> cola_kid, you are dead... it was pics and movies anywaz... get some new
[03:10] <Macer> the device assignment in /dev keep changing for the drive
[03:10] <bazhang> Macer, no idea, sorry, perhaps #vbox can help
[03:10] <cola_kid> lol
[03:10] <Macer> so on reboot /dev/sda will move to /dev/sdb
[03:10] <Macer> i was hoping to use /dev/disk/by-uuid but uuids seem to be only assigned to partitions
[03:10] <brokenian> bahzhang when running a 32bit application, i have to run it via sudo. how can i run it as a regular user
[03:10] <cola_kid> stupid question but if files are recoverable after a format ussualy why cant they be recovered after a fresh install?
[03:10] <Macer> bazhang: well.. uuids aren't really a vbox thing ;)
[03:11] <biami> brokenian, chmod u+x file
[03:11] <bazhang> brokenian, that has nothing to do with ia32libs, unless I am misunderstanding you
[03:11] <Macer> i was hoping to be able to assign a uuid to the entire drive and not just a partition or try to find out something that works
[03:11] <phrostbite> ok what is it Westz
[03:12] <cola_kid> shit.. just clicked in my head.. is it unrecoverable because ubuntu will of formatted the drive on install with a new file system?
[03:13] <Guest67030> how can i view long outputs without closing them at the and.. as less and more do..?!?
[03:14] <bazhang> cola_kid, it overwrote the data? it's gone. also no cursing please
[03:14] <zetheroo> ok, another issue ... 5 out of 10 times when I boot into Ubuntu the system logs me in but I don't get anything more than my wallpaper! Any ideas?
[03:14] <biami> cola_kid, see when you format something, it gets removed from the directory structure, but the 1s and 0s on the physical drive exists... until you overwrite it.
[03:14] <cola_kid> sorry
[03:14] <cola_kid> ok
[03:14] <cola_kid> thanks for the help
[03:15] <cola_kid> ok.. is there a way to put the dir structure back from ext to fat so its viewable?
[03:16] <brokenian> bazhang: the binaries are already executable. If I compile the same source code to run on my native architectecure, it simply runs. when i compile it for a i586, abd try to run it (which I should be able to do, as I've installed ia32-libs) i get a permission denied error. the only difference between the two being the libraries they link against
[03:16] <sqlinj> yoo im new this ubuntu stuff and im having huge problems
[03:16] <biami> cola_kid,  no... its gone... you overwrote it when installing ubuntu on it...
[03:16] <bazhang> sqlinj, then ask a question
[03:17] <cola_kid> ok
[03:17] <cola_kid> thanks for the help
[03:17] <cola_kid> laters
[03:17] <biami> k... sweet dreams...
[03:17] <sqlinj> bazhang how do you PM?
[03:17] <bazhang> sqlinj, just ask here first
[03:17] <pksadiq> brokenian: try chown and chmod
[03:17] <biami> sqlinj, write it here...
[03:17] <bazhang> sqlinj, /msg nickname message, but ask first
[03:19] <Iron_Chef> what's the easiest way to upgrade to evolution 3.x in Lucid?
[03:19] <pappa_bear_> just ask
[03:19] <bazhang> pappa_bear_, he just did
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[03:19] <Iron_Chef> I've tried Natty, but need LTS, and my email from natty won't import into lucid
[03:19] <pappa_bear_> sorry lol
[03:20] <brokenian> bazhang: im already the owner of the files, and the group is the default of me. permissions are already 755
[03:20] <Macer> ah. never mind.
[03:20] <NoWayJose> Okay, so I installed Ubuntu using Wubi through Windows Vista, now my question, can I use Wubi and install Kubuntu as well, and have all 3 on here?
[03:20] <Macer> i was able to use /dev/disk/by-id/drive to get it working
[03:20] <Macer> thanks anyways. guess a uuid wasn't the best method but the by-id should stay the same when reboot
[03:20] <bazhang> NoWayJose, with the package kubuntu-desktop?
[03:21] <NoWayJose> bazhang, I was just going to use the wubi installer from the kubuntu installation..
[03:21] <bazhang> NoWayJose, just install kubuntu-desktop then choose kubuntu from the login screen instead of gnome
[03:21] <biami> brokenian, then you don't need to be rrot
[03:21] <biami> *root
[03:22] <NoWayJose> Is it possible to have Vista, Ubuntu, and Kubuntu on the same computer?
[03:22] <Iron_Chef> NoWayJose: sure
[03:22] <rypervenche> NoWayJose: Yep.
[03:22] <biami> maybe some other file it uses doesn't have that permissions
[03:22] <bazhang> NoWayJose, sure, but what you are proposing is a lot more effort
[03:22] <izinucs> NoWayJose: seeing as you have a pretty keen interest.. might I suggest loading Virtualbox in windows as a vm manager and then loading kubuntu/lubuntu etc in that.. or creating a true dual/tripple boot system to play with.
[03:22] <Iron_Chef> NoWayJose: you need to install windows first
[03:22] <bazhang> Iron_Chef, he has wubi already
[03:22] <Iron_Chef> NoWayJose: it's installer clobbers the MBR, but linux plays nice
[03:22] <phrostbite> Hey everybody that helped. teamviewer works epically
[03:23] <Iron_Chef> kk
[03:23] <Iron_Chef> i need to upgrade to Evolution 3.x in ubuntu 10.04 - anyone done this?  I'd prefer to use apt
[03:23] <NoWayJose> Iron_Chef, I used Wubi to place Ubuntu on here and when the computer starts up it asks me which O.S. to boot into...that is what I was wanting to do with kubuntu as well.
[03:23] <NoWayJose> izinucs, I am not sure how to do that just yet.
[03:24] <bazhang> NoWayJose, package kubuntu-desktop, choose kde4 at login window.
[03:24] <izinucs> Iron_Chef: google for "evolution PPA" and see what you come up with. if it's there for that release go for it..
[03:24] <NoWayJose> bazhang, OK
[03:24] <izinucs> NoWayJose: you mean a VM or dual boot?
[03:24] <lilsec> Hi guys. Trying to get my headphone jack working. I installed gnome-alsamixer, and the headphone jack isn't muted, and it looks like alsa is picking up my sound card correctly. Anybody know of anything else I can try?
[03:24] <NoWayJose> izinucs, vm
[03:24] <bazhang> izinucs, wubi NoWayJose wubi is not a vm
[03:25] <vu1kan> !deop me
[03:25] <izinucs> NoWayJose: that's easy.. it's like running any other program.. virtualbox.org to download the .exe for windows once installed run it and it will open a window you can paw through to load ubuntu kubuntu in.
[03:25] <brokenian> bhazang: the binaries don't need root permission, its apparently the libraries they link against. If I get a permission denied error on files I own that have the appropriate permissions, then the error is with something they are pulling in. I want to know how I can do so without manually setting every 32 bit library in my system to being owned by me.
[03:25] <vu1kan> er...disregard, wrong server
[03:25] <bazhang> vu1kan, okay?
[03:25] <NoWayJose> izinucs, ok thanks
[03:25] <izinucs> NoWayJose: bazhang is right.. wubi is not a vm..
[03:25] <NoWayJose> wubi is working good so far
[03:26] <vu1kan> i'm on another server, writing a bot...i ment to test that function there, not here
[03:26] <izinucs> NoWayJose: you're a lucky one.
[03:26] <bazhang> NoWayJose, then stick with it
[03:26] <NoWayJose> i like the way it set up my boot selections.
[03:26] <NoWayJose> i have two options, vista, ubuntu...
[03:26] <Shaba1> It was working for me until yesterday NoWayJose
[03:26] <NoWayJose> Shaba1, what happened?
[03:26] <izinucs> NoWayJose: then stay and play with ubuntu in wubi.. but if you want load kubuntu in virtualbox vm.. it should all play well together
[03:27] <NoWayJose> I am guessing ubuntu would be alot better if I were just to format the hard drive and place ubuntu only on it..right?
[03:27] <Shaba1> first time it crashed since I upgraded it to 11.04 a month ago.
[03:27] <NoWayJose> izinucs, I will try that. The live cd option is too slow for me.
[03:27] <ejv> NoWayJose: several people dual boot
[03:27] <NoWayJose> Shaba1, Do you know why it crashed?
[03:27] <Shaba1> Well I was working on something( I cannot recall what) and all of a sudden I got a black full screen with scrolling text and no way to stop it. I just had to power down and reboot back into windows
[03:28] <NoWayJose> ejv, I have never tried placing more than 2 operating systems on a comp before...just wondering if one could triple boot. heh
[03:28] <NoWayJose> Shaba1, will ubuntu work now?
[03:28] <Shaba1> I have not tried it yet
[03:28] <Iron_Chef> NoWayJose: I've had win7. winxp, solaris, ubuntu and gentoo on the same box at the same time - there is no limit.
[03:29] <Shaba1> actually yes I have. for about 10 minutes today just to run a game to see if I installed it correctly
[03:29] <Shaba1> then I just booted back into window
[03:29] <NoWayJose> Iron_Chef, sweet
[03:29] <NoWayJose> I would like to try Windows 7...they want something I don't have however. Money.
[03:29] <Shaba1> I had a dual boot laptop about 2 years ago. Before I shorted out the motherboard
[03:30] <bsmith093> what do i need to backup to save my gpg key passphrase
[03:30] <Shaba1> I had no problems with it.
[03:30] <_Lucifer> is there a way, preferably in gedit since that's what I currently have open, to strip everything after a certain character on each line of a document? long story short, I hosed my system (I think there was an error when I changed the sizes of my partitions, not sure) so I reinstalled.  I've got a backup of all the packages I had installed from a couple days back, but I think some of the packages are corrupted or something. I'm thinking stripping everyth
[03:30] <_Lucifer> ing after and including the _ from the name of the .deb should give me the package names I need to redownload/reinstall everything
[03:30] <NoWayJose> This is a laptop here I am dual booting on.
[03:30] <Shaba1> I just cannot afford the disk space right now
[03:30] <Iron_Chef> NoWayJose: win7 is very nice, but ubuntu is better ;-)
[03:30] <NoWayJose> I have used Vista 64-bit for 4 years now, I have not had the slightest problem out of it...I know I am lucky.
[03:31] <chrisf> NoWayJose: if you were running x64, you probably had h/w that could run it properly ;)
[03:32] <Isosceles> hi - I'm trying to set up an Ubuntu ufw firewall for just simple web browsing (desktop). I've allowed 53/udp & 80/tcp, but firefox won't see google if I use ufw default deny?
[03:32] <mynotes> test
[03:32] <Isosceles> can anyone help?
[03:33] <Starminn> NoWayJose: WUBI is *within* Windows. That's why you can add/remove via "Add/Remove Programs." WUBI runs slower than a dual-boot. A dual-boot Ubuntu should be exactly like a single-boot of Ubuntu. Also, not only can you triple boot, you can also: http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=147959
[03:33] <Padge> I have a network card that doesn't show up in my list of interfaces, but it shows up in lspci
[03:33] <pksadiq> _Lucifer: if you just need to remove the '_' char, just use find and replace
[03:33] <zetheroo> anyone know how to fix VPN issues?
[03:33] <icode> Isosceles: perhaps you have filtered the output traffic?
[03:34] <Isosceles> icode : for web browsing, should I be filtering outgoing or incoming? Do I need both?
[03:34] <kellnola> Isosceles, pastebin output of "ufw status numbered"
[03:34] <bsmith093> backup my passphrase for the gpg key?
[03:34] <biami> NoWayJose, the only thing good about win7 is that even the viruses are incompitable...
[03:34] <NoWayJose> lol
[03:34] <kellnola> Isosceles, you don't need to filter outgoing, this isn't windows
[03:35] <icode> isosceles: for browsing you need to allow incoming and outgoing
[03:35] <_Lucifer> pksadiq yeah, there's that, but I mean things everything after that on a given line as well like one might be "_2.3-14ubuntu1_i386.deb" another might be "_1.2.5.dfsg.1-3_i386.deb" etc
[03:36] <Isosceles> kellnola : http://pastebin.com/7egYABQ0
[03:36] <ejv> NoWayJose: i might be in the minority here, but what could you possibly gain by adding a second linux distribution?
[03:36] <pksadiq> _Lucifer: I don't know, it on gedit, find and replace don't know the '$' char which means the end of line, but vim does nice
[03:36] <kellnola> Isosceles, dude, that's the opposite of what you want
[03:36] <pappa_bear_> isosceles: he just wants the perks of the desktop enviro
[03:37] <kellnola> Isosceles, that means you allow traffic IN to port 80 and 53
[03:37] <Isosceles> ok, will try that
[03:37] <kellnola> Isosceles, you don't need to do anything to ufw to allow dns and web browsing, by default I'm almost certain it allows all outgoing
[03:38] <NoWayJose> ejv, I wouldn't gain anything.
[03:38] <_Lucifer> pksadiq thank you. like I said I was only prefering gedit because I already have it open with all the package names on their own line. it'd only be a couple of extra steps to copy and paste into another editor if that'll make it simpler
[03:38] <Isosceles> kellnola : I want to deny everything else, want to make a secure simple desktop
[03:39] <wildgoose> Isosceles, Try using gufw, set outgoing allow, set incoming deny.
[03:39] <kellnola> Isosceles, by default ufw denys everything in unless it was initiated by a connection behind the firewall
[03:39] <NoWayJose> I know Firefox won't make my font bigger, grr.
[03:40] <kellnola> *denies
[03:40] <wildgoose> NoWayJose, CTRL+Scroll UP
[03:40] <Padge> sorry if anyone answered and I was gone.  I have an Ubuntu box with two NICs, but only one interface is showing up with ifconfig
[03:41] <Padge> My router is giving me shit, and I'm trying to get my Ubuntu box to do that job.
[03:41] <Corey> Padge: Language, plz.
[03:41] <Corey> Padge: So your router is giving you poop. :-)
[03:41] <Padge> Corey, Sorry
[03:41] <lapaga> since we are discussing firewalls...is there a log file viewer or a ufw interface that shows scanning from outside ips?
[03:41] <Corey> Padge: You using networkmanager?
[03:42] <GhostWolf> hey is there a speicific chan i can go to to get help on samba for 11.04?
[03:42] <Corey> lapaga: That'd drive you slowly mad unless you pointed a log analyzer at it.
[03:42] <NoWayJose> wildgoose, okay thank you
[03:42] <Corey> GhostWolf: #samba
[03:42] <GhostWolf> ok thanks Core_UK
[03:42] <GhostWolf> erm Corey
[03:42] <Corey> Not to worry.
[03:43] <lapaga> Corey, I just sort of like to see.  probably already mad...
[03:43] <Corey> lapaga: Check /var/log/
[03:43] <Starminn> NoWayJose: I'm not sure if this is by default (I think so, though) but you should be able to SUPER+Scroll Wheel to zoom in and out of the whole desktop.
[03:43] <Corey> lapaga: Not sure where in there ufw logs to, I don't run it myself.
[03:43] <pksadiq> _Lucifer: any way you can replace '_' with '\n\n', so that it will be placed in a newline, easier to be copied, I hope
[03:44] <lapaga> Corey, I know about the logs...just was interested in if there is a pared down version that would only show scans etc without showing all the log.
[03:45] <NoWayJose> k
[03:45] <Isosceles> ok, now I have 53/udp and 80/tcp outgoing allowed http://pastebin.com/DwsUQ59W
[03:45] <taglass> _Lucifer, sed "s/_\\w*.deb//g" < yourlist.txt > outfile.txt might work
[03:45] <Corey> lapaga: Now we're back to what I said about "log analysis." :-)
[03:45] <Corey> lapaga: Splunk may be overkill, so look into OSSEC-HIDS
[03:45] <Isosceles> firefox just returns instantly with an error
[03:45] <Corey> lapaga: Failing that, tail -f $LOGFILE | grep pattern
[03:46] <NoWayJose> I was in here the other day and some folks was trying to tell me that, I should begin programming starting out with 'C'...I went to the library and got a book on it...I'm not exactly sure this is beginner stuff.
[03:46] <biami> NoWayJose, start with python... then C
[03:47] <Padge> Corey, I have no such program, evidently
[03:47] <ThomasB2k> NoWayJose: don't learn C, it's an old, almost pointless language, and it's not object oriented
[03:47] <lapaga> Corey, well was hoping for just something simple:).  such as firestarter or what ever.  Just like to what my friends in ch or ru are interested in
[03:47] <taglass> NoWayJose, http://www.highercomputingforeveryone.com/
[03:47] <NoWayJose> ThomasB2k, What I was hoping to do was to be learn some linux programming and be able to contribue to this ubuntu stuff later on in life...
[03:48] <biami> ThomasB2k, hey... C is not old and pointless... you don't have pointers in other languages... pointers rock...
[03:48] <chrisf> NoWayJose: ThomasB2k is trolling you.
[03:48] <taglass> ThomasB2k, terrible advice
[03:48] <ThomasB2k> I am not trolling him. Languages that are object oriented are usually much easier and much better.
[03:49] <taglass> ThomasB2k, define better
[03:49] <ThomasB2k> NoWayJose: You would be better off learning C++
[03:49] <Blackcamaro8> Question, how would I go about setting up an IRC server? I have ircd-hybrid and Anope, but all the instructions I'm seeing don't get specific enough for me.
[03:49] <taglass> ThomasB2k, a turing complete template system on to pof yoru language.  That just screams beginner....
[03:50] <litropy> what program or library would I use to output the color values of pixels at specified coordinates?
[03:50] <biami> ThomasB2k, isn't C a subset of C++???
[03:51] <NoWayJose> any of you guys/gals program fluently?
[03:51] <ThomasB2k> Yes
[03:51] <ThomasB2k> Isn't this off-topic for #ubuntu though?
[03:51] <brokenian> i am looking for some help running a 32 bit application using ia32-libs
[03:51] <biami> brokenian, which app?
[03:51] <NoWayJose> Yea its off topic, sorry about that.
[03:51] <Starminn> NoWayJose: Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:52] <NoWayJose> Starminn, k, sorry.
[03:52] <biami> NoWayJose, LEARN PYTHON
[03:52] <Isosceles> any ideas why my ufw isn't working for web browsing? http://pastebin.com/DwsUQ59W
[03:52] <NoWayJose> biami, Ok.
[03:52] <Padge> biami: python has nothing but pointers
[03:52] <bpr> hey, somewhere along the line, I've lost the ability to add a folder to Ubuntu One in Nautilus.  Has that functionality changed in some update, or something?
[03:52] <Padge> biami: c++ has pointers, and it's object oriented
[03:52] <Starminn> NoWayJose: Oh, no, not a problem. I didn't think much about it either, but since people are saying 'it's offtopic' I thought I may as well tell you where it would be more *on-topic*
[03:52] <biami> padge, excuse me
[03:52] <Padge> biami: C# has references (effectively the same)
[03:53] <Padge> biami: Pretty much every language either works exlusively by reference or provides access to them
[03:53] <whitetiger> sorry guys is there a plugin for xchat or another better client which show me the user which are connected in the chan i am?
[03:54] <Padge> Corey: I do'nt have networkmanager, I guess.  Should I get it during one of my brief connected periods?
[03:54] <biami> whitetiger, biami: click on the text that says '1409 users'
[03:54] <brokenian> biami: something i wrote. the problem is that when i try to run it i get a permission denied error. I own the file, and the permissions are already set to 755. If I recompile for 64 bit it just runs. However, the ultimate destination of the software isn't my system, its a 32 bit one, and I need to test the actual binary before i install it. How can I run it without using sudo? I'm assuming  I have some setting wrong
[03:54] <whitetiger> ahhhhh ok well done thank u very much :D
[03:55] <Isosceles> where does UFW log to? I've enabled full logging but my /var/log/ufw.log file is empty?
[03:55] <biami> u need to have permission to run the compiler
[03:55] <biami> i think
[03:56] <qin> Isosceles: Did you restarted ufw service?
[03:56] <Corey> Padge: I'd not.
[03:56] <Padge> I've been using terminal and gedit
[03:56] <Corey> Padge: Configure /etc/network/interfaces properly and it should "just work."
[03:56] <camilo> hola
[03:56] <camilo> hola
[03:56] <qin> !es
[03:57] <camilo> hi
[03:57] <Padge> Corey: I think I have a driver issue.  Would ifconfig show all my interfaces regardless of whether they're configured to be used?
[03:57] <brokenian> biami: its already compiled. i have an actual, statically linked binary. As the binary seems to be fine, i can only conclude the problem lies with the libraries its pulling in. I dnoo't want to play directly with their permissions if I can avoid  it
[03:57] <qin> Hello.
[03:57] <Isosceles> qin : I've disabled & enabled it
[03:57] <Corey> Padge: no, ifconfig -a might.
[03:57] <Mod-R-Focker> yeah im in finally
[03:57] <Corey> Padge: And dmesg to a pastebin would help too.
[03:57] <biami> i learnt programming like LOGO -> GWBasic-> C-> C++ -> Python -> Js -> Php -> etc
[03:57] <qin> Isosceles: sudo service ufw restart ?
[03:57] <brokenian> biami: perhaps there is a custom group i have to add myself to?
[03:58] <Isosceles> qin : no change
[03:58] <lapaga> Isosceles, could be var/log/syslog or ufw.log
[03:58] <biami> brokenian, i didn't understand your question fully... when you say you made a 32 bit app, do you modify the processor registers directly or anything???
[03:59] <wildgoose> Isosceles, Temporarily allow all outgoing, then open a browser and do some surfing like normal, now go to terminal and run "netstat -atl". This will give you an idea about what ports are being used
[03:59] <Isosceles> lapagna: syslog has no ufw entries, ufw.log is empty
[03:59] <brokenian> biami: i have a cross-compiler, created using crosstools-ng. my native system is 64bit, but the cross-compiler compilesfor 32 bit
[03:59] <Padge> Corey: ifconfig -a only shows lo and eth0.  http://pastebin.com/3Nfv88Cs
[04:00] <qin> Isosceles: First time in my life using uwf, looks nice...
[04:00] <biami> but did u code any stuff that needs to differentiate between 32 bit and 64 bit registers??
[04:01] <lapaga> Isosceles, are you using something such as gufw?
[04:01] <Corey> Padge: And lspci may help as well.
[04:01] <brokenian> biami: no, but the machine it will be run on is 32 bit, and i586 architecture. I have to compile for the target architecture.
[04:01] <Padge> biami: What kind of programming are you wanting to do?  Device, systems, application, or web?
[04:01] <qin> Isosceles: What level did you set?
[04:01] <biami> application and web
[04:01] <Corey> Padge: Looks like it's only got eth0 configured.
[04:02] <Corey> Padge: What's your desired goal?
[04:02] <Isosceles> wildgoose : Looks like www (80) and listening on ipp? http://pastebin.com/a65R6Mku
[04:02] <biami> not working yet though... i am studying computer science engineering
[04:02] <biami> and i have 2 more years to go... i am yet to learn JAVA and C#
[04:02] <Isosceles> lapaga: no, gufw looked like a very simple gui wrapper on ufw. Want to learn to do this by hand.
[04:03] <Isosceles> qin: full
[04:03] <Padge> Corey: http://pastebin.com/xw3wgT86
[04:04] <qin> Isosceles: same here, now time to nmap
[04:04] <Corey> Padge: Yeah, all I see is that realtek controller.
[04:04] <biami> padge: but i can create professional level apps and websites...
[04:05] <brokenian> biami: nevermind. although you will be able to answer my question in time, I think you might not be there yet.
[04:05] <biami> ok
[04:05] <biami> i shouldn't have said that i am a student
[04:06] <NoWayJose> lol
[04:06] <brokenian> biami: it wasn't meant to be an insult. im sorry if it sounded that way
[04:07] <Padge1> Sorry, I dipped again
[04:07] <biami> no... its fine... i mean... i learn in irc in one night what it would take weeks in a class
[04:07] <Padge1> biami: Then I would START with C, learn it until you can build a linked list, then drop it like a bad habit and never look back.
[04:08] <NoWayJose> biami, what languages do you know?'
[04:08] <eukatech> hiya
[04:08] <biami> C, C++, Python, Php, Js, Assembly
[04:08] <pksadiq> !ot
[04:08] <Aces> hello
[04:09] <biami> LOGO and GWBasic too... but they don't count
[04:09] <Padge1> biami: gorillas.bas
[04:10] <Aces> ok, so I'm having trouble booting ubuntu netbook remix from a flash drive. I use the command " dd if=ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb" and it's failed to create a bootable volume several times now. What could be causing this?
[04:10] <eukatech> i got a question for you ppl and i hope you can help me out on this one.. ive been running ubuntu 11.04 for some time but when i switch to my tv i get a green glow/screen on my tv im running on a i2500k internal videocard
[04:10] <perko> anyone know where to get the 32 bit dev. libs for wine? was it through aptitude?
[04:10] <ray__> hi all
[04:11] <izinucs> perko: aptitude, apt, synaptic package manager all go to the same place.. if you have a gui use synaptic package manager and search for wine
[04:11] <biami> aces: use universal usb installer
[04:12] <Aces> do they have that for archlinux?
[04:12] <perko> cheers
[04:12] <Padge1> Corey: What do you think? Did you see lines 23 and 24?  I'm pretty sure those reflect my different NICs.  They are both Realtek chips
[04:12] <biami> Padge1, i learnt in school... they don't allow us to play games... but we did.
[04:12] <psykidellic> Hi, I am trying to setup my server to only allow SSH based access. When I set: PasswordAuthentication no, in sshd_config - it disables even roots password access. I wanted to disable tunnel password for all EXCEPT root. Or is that a wrong approach?
[04:12] <Padge1> biami: I think my distro of GWBasic came with gorillas.bas.  I sure didn't write it.
[04:13] <Corey> Padge1: I missed line 24.  Yeah, I don't see that it's loading a dlink driver.
[04:13] <Padge1> Corey: Can you teach me to make that determination as you have?
[04:15] <lapaga> I updated to ff5 yesterday...now chromium seems to take quite a bit longer to load a page..(could just be traffic but not sure) any ideas why?
[04:15] <eukatech> this problem  with the hd3000 internal i2500k  green screen tv is really bugging the hell out of me as i dont have this problem on crappy windows
[04:15] <eukatech> any ideas?
[04:15] <Padge1> That "kernel ring buffer" makes my eyes cross
[04:16] <mad2> hey guys
[04:17] <mad2> im having a problem with suspend resume on my sony vaio f series laptop...it hard restarts when i try to resume after suspend
[04:18] <mad2> anybody else fixed or having similar problems?
[04:22] <mad2> has anybody in here used pinguy?
[04:22] <diytto> How do I get ubuntu to use my swap partition?
[04:23] <Jeffsi> can somone help me get my motherboard network driver going?
[04:24] <mad2> diytto, type mkswap "/dev/sda" (your swap partition here), then swapon "/dev/sda"
[04:25] <Padge1> Corey: Should I put in a NIC that was manufactured in this decade?
[04:25] <Padge1> Corey: Well, this decade or the last one
[04:26] <blackshirt> :d
[04:27] <kut> hello, every bod.
[04:27] <syrinx_> o/
[04:27] <biami> hi
[04:27] <mad2> what up
[04:28] <kut> every body mu jj.
[04:28] <Jeffsi> i dont understand drivers on linux :(
[04:28] <Padge1> Jeffsi: Neither do I :(
[04:28] <kut> -_-||
[04:29] <Jeffsi> Padge1: :(
[04:29] <mad2> nvidia just causes problems
[04:30] <Jeffsi> and my computer keeps shuting off :(
[04:30] <Jeffsi> can anyone maybe assist with that?
[04:31] <mad2> Jeffsi: does it boot up?
[04:31] <biami> mad2, i know... once you get nvidia... all you want to do is play games
[04:31] <qin> Isosceles: I do not think ufw will stay on here, but it is logging.
[04:31] <Jeffsi> yes, and then it shuts down sometime later
[04:32] <mad2> biami: its really bad when sauerbraten controls my studying time for class haha
[04:32] <Jeffsi> mad2:  its never one specific time either
[04:32] <biami> :)
[04:32] <mad2> Jeffsi: are you using natty?
[04:33] <biami> i gotta go... have class in one hour...
[04:33] <mad2> ttyl bro
[04:33] <Jeffsi> im using lucid
[04:33] <Jeffsi> oh no
[04:34] <Jeffsi> and last shut down was durrring an upgrade
[04:34] <perko> noob question but how do i get the ia32-libs file for wine using apt?
[04:34] <mad2> Jeffsi: do you have a newer computer that meets all the hardware requirements of lucid?
[04:35] <mad2> perko: it should be brought through as a dependency when u apt wine
[04:35] <Jeffsi> i havnt checked the requirements, its old but i think it can take it
[04:35] <almoxarife> perko: apt-get install ia32-libs
[04:35] <perko> almoxarife: cheers
[04:36] <almoxarife> perko: but mad is also right
[04:36] <Jeffsi> mad2: ill check quick
[04:36] <mad2> Jeffsi: sounds like a hardware problem since it is random...maybe not enough ram
[04:36] <Jeffsi> mad2: its got just under 2gigs
[04:36] <mad2> almoxarife: thanks bro
[04:37] <SirSpam> I just installed gnome-core and tightvncserver on my Ubuntu Server Edition computer. I connected to the server using vnc, but now every time I press the d key.. ubuntu minimizes to the desktop
[04:37] <mad2> Jeffsi: thats more than enough
[04:37] <SirSpam> I'm not pressing any other keys, but it still continues to minimize to desktop
[04:38] <Jeffsi> mad2: i use to not be able to keep it on for more than like 5 min but i increased the voltage to the cpu and it seems to be working for longer and longer periods of time, any thoughts?
[04:39] <NoWayJose> What is Ubuntu programmed in?
[04:40] <mad2> Jeffsi: sorry man...my only guess is that it is shutting down to maybe save your system as like a safety thing but im not for sure...wish i could help more
[04:40] <jehujake> hello
[04:41] <Jeffsi> anyone good with hardware that may be able to help?
[04:41] <bazhang> Jeffsi, ##hardware , that is not for here
[04:41] <Jeffsi> alright, thanks
[04:41] <thegoodcushion> I'm looking for software to help me study.  I want to create individual 'lessons' that consist of about 30 minutes of private study, and be able to define certain sequences in which they have to occur, and have them put to me at random.  Any software that can do this?
[04:42] <perko> apt is saying ia32-libs has been superseeded but when i install lib32z1 i get the same error as before
[04:42] <sammmy> Just finished installing ubuntu.
[04:42] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, pdf +mp3? what format are the lessons
[04:42] <thegoodcushion> bazhang: no, the lessons are just text
[04:42] <perko> so which 32bit development libs do i use for wine?
[04:43] <thegoodcushion> like, "read chapter 1 of chemistry textbook", "read chapter 2 of chemistry textbook", and they have to occur in that order but at semi-random times
[04:43] <sammmy> How do you make the dock open and close faster in unity?
[04:43] <bazhang> sammmy, use unity-2d?
[04:43] <sammmy> bazhang: what's that?
[04:43] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, random? not sure. why not schedule with cron
[04:43] <thegoodcushion> bazhang: so when I fire up the software it will say, today's lesson plan is you read chapter 1 of the chemistry textbook plus chapter 2 of the english textbook
[04:44] <bazhang> sammmy, less resource intensive version of unity-3d
[04:44] <sammmy> bazhang, it's not running slow, that's not the issue. It's just I want to customize the speed.
[04:44] <mmason> Has anybody else had trouble getting xulrunner-dev to install on 10.04?
[04:44] <thegoodcushion> bazhang: I mean, I could do it manually with little cards like blank business cards.  Surely there's software that can do it
[04:44] <almoxarife> perko: is all this so you have wine installed?
[04:45] <bazhang> sammmy, unity is not very configurable at this point in time
[04:45] <perko> yeah
[04:45] <jehujake> Hello, I'm a Seattlite in China (Shenzhen).  Is my understanding correct that if I grab a package using one of the standard US servers I can be sure the package is the real thing by the checksum being correct?
[04:45] <sammmy> I see
[04:45] <mmason> It (recursively) wants libdbus-glib-1-2 =0.84, while 0.88 is the one available.
[04:45] <almoxarife> perko: and what happens when you apt-get install wine1.2 ???
[04:45] <bazhang> jehujake, why would you use the us servers? use the local ones or the ones in taiwan
[04:45] <jehujake> bazhang, paranoia I gues
[04:46] <jehujake> guess
[04:46] <racoon_collectiv> hey all. nice to meet you.
[04:46] <bazhang> jehujake, unnecessary
[04:46] <bazhang> racoon_collectiv, hi
[04:46] <jehujake> Ok, but is my assumption OK
[04:46] <jehujake> ?
[04:46] <bazhang> jehujake, if the gpg is fine then its okay, no matter where the repos
[04:47] <perko> almoxarife: unable to locate package
[04:47] <jehujake> bazhang, Ok, thanks!
[04:47] <thegoodcushion> jehujake: as the packages pass through the Chinese servers, they get the Chinese spyware added to them and there is padding to make sure the checksum is the same, so don't worry about a thing
[04:47] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, stop that. that is not true
[04:47] <thegoodcushion> jehujake: lol, I'm just kidding of course
[04:47] <bazhang> jehujake, disregard what thegoodcushion just said
[04:47] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, wrong place and its not funny
[04:47] <almoxarife> perko: how about just plain 'wine' ??
[04:47] <Odd-rationale> Where can I find documentation on the default partitioning scheme when installing Ubuntu?
[04:47] <jehujake> hmm, there might be a reason you're showing up in red!
[04:48] <thegoodcushion> lol
[04:48] <bazhang> jehujake, highlighted when you use someones nick
[04:48] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, ?
[04:48] <thegoodcushion> bazhang: laughing at jehujake's red comment
[04:48] <jehujake> bazhang, I know, it was just a joke
[04:48] <bazhang> !partition | Odd-rationale
[04:48] <thegoodcushion> so anyone got any idea for flashcard software or do I need to do this manually?
[04:49] <perko> almoxarife: still unable to locate package. i have the wine package, just need the 32bit libs to install as far as i can tell
[04:50] <pksadiq> perko: try reloading the package information in synaptic or sudo apt-get update
[04:50] <mmason> Any thoughts re: getting an older package?
[04:50] <mmason> Or why a dep is broken?
[04:51] <almoxarife> perko: then we are back to installing ia32-libs, but you said it can't be found
[04:51] <perko> exactly
[04:51] <Odd-rationale> What I am trying to figure out is if you install Ubuntu with the default options (not manual partitioning), how does it decide how large to make the swap partition, root, and home partition (if any). And does it use primary or logical partitions? Is there documentation for this?
[04:52] <perko> and the replacement packages that come up in apt don't let wine install either
[04:53] <almoxarife> perko: add the ppa for wine, and try again?
[04:55] <sarthor> Duplicate user login from 85.190.0.3 .. and 109.234.106.53. my modem says this. Why? is some one from IRC logged in to my modem and then comptuers??
[04:56] <almoxarife> sarthor: your modem or the irc server?
[04:57] <sarthor> my modem logs says this.
[04:57] <gulzar> is there any IRC for hardware?
[04:58] <pksadiq> gulzar: channel? might be ##hardware
[04:58] <almoxarife> sarthor: one of those ips is your public ip?
[04:59] <sarthor> almoxarife: my ip range is 192.168.xx.xx range
[04:59] <sarthor> gulzar: yaar da sa masla da.
[04:59] <almoxarife> sarthor: that would be your internal ip
[05:00] <sarthor> internet Ip ? i do not have any ip like this. nor i have that range.
[05:00] <cyper85> anyone know how to disable the quit/join notifications in the channel? I'm using the web based irc client
[05:00] <sarthor> my modem ip is 188.xx.xx.xx range
[05:01] <DanaG_> Anyone here familiar with ntfsclone?
[05:01] <almoxarife> sarthor: so besides you there are two others logged into your machine, that's what you are saying?
[05:01] <DanaG_> I just ntfscloned a partition, only to find that it missed like 60% of the files on the partition.
[05:02] <sarthor> almoxarife: yes.
[05:02] <gulzar> sarthor: sorry! means?
[05:02] <Starminn> Odd-rationale: Ubuntu 10.10 using defaults made a swap file of 2GiB (well, 1.98) which was 4 times the amount of RAM at the time (I had 512MiB), it put swap and Ubuntu in an Extended partition, and I just used the slider to decide how much space for me to have.
[05:02] <gulzar>  I want to disable my internal HDD for about an hour. How to do this from BIOS?
[05:02] <bazhang> gulzar, support question?
[05:03] <DanaG_> Okay, so my source partition had 36 gigs used... and the "clone" had only 26 gigs used!
[05:03] <bazhang> gulzar, how does that relate to ubuntu
[05:03] <DanaG_> What gives?
[05:03] <gulzar> bazhang: umm are you an administrator?
[05:03] <bazhang> gulzar, do you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[05:03] <Odd-rationale> Starminn: Thanks! Do you know how the installer makes these decisions?
[05:03] <sarthor> almoxarife: 109.234.106.53 is showing Location: Germany [City: ] on dnsstuff.com
[05:03] <almoxarife> sarthor: you allow access to your machine via remote desktop?
[05:03] <DanaG_> That's like cloning a human and having the head missing.
[05:04] <gulzar> bazhang: i know. I am asking this question at ##hardware but people are vey rude and use bad language so shifted here.
[05:04] <sarthor> almoxarife: no
[05:04] <bazhang> gulzar, this does make ubuntu your backup offtopic questions channel. be patient or search elsewhere
[05:04] <DanaG_> Also, for some reason, my system keeps starting with Metacity, not Compiz.
[05:04] <DanaG_> How do I make it default to Compiz?
[05:05] <DanaG_> Simple-ccsm won't install, so I can't just go to Appearance and enable it there.
[05:05] <almoxarife> sarthor: what log are you looking at? specific
[05:05] <gulzar> bazhang: will you please tell me what do you mean by ubuntu? If question is asked about firefox people say that go to mozilla. If it is about video prblem users are reffered to vlc......
[05:05] <gulzar> bazhang: but one thing..
[05:05] <Madpilot>  DanaG_ that sounds like a GDM issue - on the login screen, check your session options.
[05:05] <Starminn> Odd-rationale: Well I dual-boot, so it asked me how much space I wanted to allocate to Ubuntu. I figured 40 Gigs would be fine, so it made root (/) 40Gigs. By default /home is not separate. As far as deciding how large to make the swap file, I'm not sure. There may be an algorithm there, but I can't say with any certainty. All I know is that with 512MiB of RAM, it gave me 2GiB.
[05:06] <gulzar> bazhang: You are always here. So are you an administrator?
[05:06] <bazhang> gulzar, please stop with the offtopic chat.
[05:06] <DanaG_> Note: I do seem to have 0.9.x installed, in Natty.
[05:06] <sarthor> 3com modem. satus and logs. and then logs.
[05:06] <bazhang> gulzar, #ubuntu-offtopic is for that NOT here
[05:06] <DanaG_> For me, with 4 gigs RAM, I use one quarter of that for ramzswap.
[05:06] <Odd-rationale> Starminn: Thanks. I'll try digging around more.
[05:06] <bruderbell> Does anyone have experience with IR Remotes?  I'm looking for some help
[05:07] <DanaG_> Frankly, if something eats so much memory that everything goes to swap, I want that something to DIE, not bring the system screeching to a halt.
[05:07] <bazhang> bruderbell, using lirc ?
[05:07] <sarthor> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/jukm9dkn
[05:07] <DanaG_> And I have an SSD, so swap on SSD == bad.
[05:07] <bruderbell> Well...I bought an offbrand usb receiver w/ remote
[05:07] <tanath> can anyone help me get sound working?
[05:07] <bruderbell> supposedly MCE compatible, but it only works as a mouse apparently
[05:07] <Starminn> Odd-rationale: Yep.
[05:07] <bazhang> bruderbell, you want to use it on your ubuntu machine with lirc?
[05:07] <bruderbell> Yes
[05:07] <gulzar> bazhang: people at Mint are better than You. Far more better. Very helping and nice. And not just putting questions and no help................. I am going there.........:P
[05:08] <bruderbell> I've done a lot of googling to no avail so far
[05:09] <almoxarife> sarthor: this has nothing to do with ubuntu, so I will keep it brief, change the modem permissions to something new as far as log in, how I don't know
[05:09] <pksadiq> bazhang: gulzar didn't said much to block him , Why you did?(correct me if I'm wrong)
[05:09] <DanaG_> Oh yeah, so last time I tried Unity and Magic Trackpad, it behaved really oddly.
[05:09] <DanaG_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10678212&postcount=23
[05:09] <sarthor> almoxarife: how to check that how many people are logged into my modem right now.
[05:09] <DanaG_> Those are my results.
[05:10] <IdleOne> pksadiq: he has been a minor issue for a few days.
[05:10] <bazhang> pksadiq, its over, lets move on
[05:10] <DanaG_> Guess what I had to do to right-click?
[05:10] <DanaG_> Or rather, how many fingers?
[05:10] <IdleOne> also what bazhang said
[05:10] <almoxarife> sarthor: no idea, its your modem, sorry
[05:11] <bruderbell> bazhang: any thoughts regarding troubleshooting a partially working IR remote?
[05:12] <pksadiq> bazhang: but actually for persons like me, its not a matter, I have a dynamic IP, changes on each dial up, but harder if you block my nick too, (please don't )
[05:13] <dave> helo
[05:13] <blackshirt> helo dave
[05:13] <sht> dave, please.. dont
[05:14] <sht> i am alone
[05:14] <DanaG_> My brain keeps adding an 'i' to that 3-letter nickname.
[05:15] <pksadiq> DanaG_: keep your language + thoughts
[05:16] <mindspider> Hey
[05:16] <mindspider> I'm having a problem playing youtube videos.
[05:16] <DanaG_> I do find it a bit ridiculous that I had to use FIVE fingers to get a right-click.
[05:16] <DanaG_> Yes, FIVE.
[05:16] <DanaG_> Not two.
[05:16] <mindspider> The pages load fine and other flash videos work perfectly.
[05:17] <mindspider> Youtube videos are the only thing not working. it just shows a black box.
[05:17] <Ender_Wiggin> Hey guys
[05:17] <IdleOne> mindspider: try youtube.com/html5
[05:18] <bruderbell> mindspider: i recently had to disabel hardware acceleration to get my flash working after an update
[05:18] <Ender_Wiggin> I am a total Linux noob, I need help running a .run file
[05:18] <mindspider> I did get an update earlier.
[05:18] <mindspider> How do I disable it?
[05:18] <Ender_Wiggin> I'm trying to update my graphics drivers and I'm having an error when I load the .run file for that
[05:18] <mindspider> And IdleOne, I'm trying that now. Do you know of any videos that HTML5 works with so I can test?
[05:19] <bruderbell> I right-clicked and chose settings, disable I think
[05:19] <blackshirt> Ender_Wiggin: what the error exactly ?
[05:19] <IdleOne> mindspider: most of them work on youtube
[05:19] <mindspider> Ah. Then it isn't working.
[05:19] <mindspider> Oh wait.
[05:19] <mindspider> Now it is.
[05:19] <mindspider> Just took about 4-5 seconds to appear.
[05:20] <Ender_Wiggin> blackshirt: could not open file: gedit has not been able to detect the character encoding. please check that you are not trying to open a binary file
[05:20] <Ender_Wiggin> select a character encoding fromt he menu
[05:20] <codex84> when i resume after sleepmode i lose conntection
[05:20] <codex84> how u fix this problem
[05:20] <pksadiq> Ender_Wiggin: if trying to install nvidia driver, its better to be installed from the repo
[05:21] <Ender_Wiggin> pksadlq: sadly it's an AMD driver
[05:21] <bruderbell> anyone have experience troubleshooting input devices?  LIRC?
[05:21] <taglass> Ender_Wiggin, It's best to stay with the Ubuntu provided catalysat if you can
[05:21] <pksadiq> Ender_Wiggin: right click on the run file, permisions, and tick on execute..., and then double click and select run
[05:21] <Ender_Wiggin> it's way out of date
[05:22] <Ender_Wiggin> and im having major graphics issues
[05:22] <pksadiq> Ender_Wiggin: in properties, I mean
[05:22] <taglass> Ender_Wiggin, probably best if you read the instructions from AMD before you proceed any further then
[05:23] <blackshirt> Ender_Wiggin: switch to console mode (run out from desktop environment)..and run .run files from terminal
[05:23] <pksadiq> !tab > Ender_Wiggin
[05:23] <Ender_Wiggin> k hold on
[05:23] <taglass> 1sjette1
[05:24] <LittleRed> hello, can someone provide me with the name or location of a web cam app for 10.10
[05:24] <bazhang> LittleRed, cheese camorama
[05:24] <gregorah> LittleRed: cheese?
[05:24] <rayon> hi
[05:25] <intok> need a nautilus script for "root window here"
[05:25] <LittleRed> bazhang - loaded cheese and it isn't working...
[05:25] <bazhang> intok, what does apt-cache search nautilus turn up
[05:25] <aakside> I'm trying to get a hang of unix commands. How can I filter out lines that two files have in common? In other words, if file A has three lines, 1, 2 and 3, and file B has just 1 and 3, I want to output 2. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[05:25] <bazhang> LittleRed, try camorama then?
[05:26] <Ender_Wiggin> pksadiq: nothing happened
[05:26] <LittleRed> bazhang - ok, I'll be back in a few and let you know...thanks
[05:26] <gregorah> aakside: I think uniq might do that with some parameters...
[05:27] <aakside> gregorah: Thank you! I will check that out.
[05:27] <gregorah> Does ordering matter? You might need to sort it first.
[05:27] <pksadiq> Ender_Wiggin: still opening in gedit?
[05:27] <aakside> order is different, but I think I will be able to figure out ordering
[05:28] <Ender_Wiggin> pksadiq: i tried to just run it like you said but nothing happens
[05:29] <Ender_Wiggin> pksadiq: then i tried running it in terminal and nothing as well
[05:29] <bazhang> nautilus-actions - nautilus extension to configure programs to launch perhaps intok or nautilus-open-terminal
[05:29] <Ender_Wiggin> pksadiq: it creates a folder in that directory then it dissapears
[05:29] <pksadiq> Ender_Wiggin: what does it happen when you double click? or when in terminal?
[05:29] <bazhang> intok, for the first choose a root terminal
[05:29] <Ender_Wiggin> pksadiq: it makes a folder in the same directory
[05:29] <Ender_Wiggin> that disappears after that
[05:29] <pksadiq> Ender_Wiggin: k in terminal do sudo ./file.run               where file.run is your run ile
[05:30] <heckj> Howdy - I have a preseed how-to question if someone can point me in the right direction
[05:30] <blackshirt> heckj: what' s your problem ?
[05:30] <Ender_Wiggin> pksadiq: include the directory?
[05:30] <heckj> I have a bootable USB that I'm using to spin up a few basic ubuntu server's, and I've been trying to add a preseed.cfg to it. Read through https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html, but I can't quite get a functional place on the USB to put that preseed.cfg file.
[05:31] <pksadiq> Ender_Wiggin: of course
[05:31] <bazhang> heckj, whats the question
[05:31] <heckj> blackshirt: It didn't have an initrd directory directly, so I've tried the root of the USB key, in
[05:31] <bazhang> heckj, whoops saw it apologies
[05:31] <heckj> the syslinux/ directory and in the install/ directory. What am I missing, or is there a "how to " somewhere that I should be reviewing?
[05:32] <heckj> bazhang: np - very happy to have some help
[05:32] <cyperbg> I just restarted Ubuntu 11.04 and got stuck at the console. How do I load a KDE?
[05:32] <lawltoad> hey, just got a new machine, and its over 8gb of ramn implying that i woul prolly want to run 64bit... and disadvantages to this?
[05:32] <intok> bazhang http://pastebin.com/8nneQ5F5 tried the old scripts pack http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/125-nautilus-scripts-to-simplify.html but they no longer work in 11.04
[05:33] <cyperbg> ah not KDE, but Gnome
[05:33] <IdleOne> sorry bout that intok bot caught you by accident
[05:33] <bobweaver> cyperbg, try startx ot /ect/init.d/gdm restart
[05:34] <intok> IdleOne np
[05:34] <cyperbg> ok I'll try
[05:34] <heckj> bazhang, blackshirt: any suggestions, or even more reading to go do?
[05:34] <cyperbg> it says: Fatal server error. No screens found
[05:34] <bazhang> http://sshrootat.blogspot.com/2011/04/preseeding-ubuntu-natty-1104.html  heckj along these lines?
[05:35] <bobweaver> cyperbg, for startx or the other one
[05:35] <blackshirt> heckj: wait a minute...my connection terible slowly
[05:35] <cyperbg> startx
[05:35] <LittleRed> bazhang - you have been elevated to almost god status... thanks, it works  :-)
[05:35] <cyperbg> let me try the other one
[05:35] <awakecoding> Hi
[05:35] <bazhang> LittleRed, glad to be of help
[05:36] <awakecoding> I have a desktop computer running ubuntu 11.04, and a pandaboard (ARM) running ubuntu 11.04 as well. I would like to cross-compile between the two, since the pandaboard is slow for compiling
[05:36] <heckj> bazhang: not quite - I'm not pxe booting, but booting from a bootable USB drive with Ubuntu 10.10 installer on it
[05:36] <awakecoding> where can I find information on how to do that?
[05:36] <lawltoad> any reason not to use -amd64 on an i7
[05:37] <bobweaver> lawltoad, whats you mem
[05:37] <awakecoding> lawltoad: you can safely use amd64 on an i7, I am...
[05:37] <cyperbg> bobweaver: the second command said something about Upstart job and start(8)
[05:37] <awakecoding> why wouldn't you?
[05:37] <bazhang> lawltoad, none
[05:37] <bobweaver> cyperbg, brb testing
[05:38] <IdleOne> awakecoding: may want to ask in #ubuntu-arm
[05:38] <pksadiq> awakecoding: did you try scratchbox?, I think it does something like that , better than crosscompiling
[05:38] <blackshirt> heckJ: okey..are you need edit preseed.cfg
[05:38] <blackshirt> ?
[05:38] <awakecoding> hum...
[05:38] <awakecoding> I was looking at the stuff from the linaro project, which is used in ubuntu
[05:38] <awakecoding> haven't tried scratchbox
[05:39] <IdleOne> awakecoding: there is a #linaro here on freenode also
[05:39] <heckj> blackshirt: I have one that I think is at least basically there - but the installer doesn't jump to running through it. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but I'm not sure if it's an error in the preseed.cfg or if it's just not configured correctly to load it and use it.
[05:39] <awakecoding> IdleOne: I'm in #linaro as well now :)
[05:39] <IdleOne> k
[05:39] <awakecoding> I managed to far, I have my chroot environment with the toolchain
[05:39] <blackshirt> have you add it on boot options ?
[05:40] <awakecoding> installed some -cross libraries, but then I'm having trouble with pkg-config
[05:40] <heckj> blackshirt: nope, I've been going off the instructions which say if it's in the root of the boot, it'll just run and use it.
[05:41] <heckj> blackshirt: I'm not entirely clear on what file to edit to put in the 'preseed/file=/hd-media/preseed.cfg' directive - of even what the relevant path would be
[05:44] <intok> bazhang no joy?
[05:44] <bazhang> intok, none so far, sorry
[05:45] <blackshirt> heckj: i think, this file relative to boot directory where initrd resides
[05:45] <MaskedMakrel> Hi.  Quick Question.  I'm running 10.10 UNR and it has the APPLE style menu which is eating my screen space.  How do I modify it
[05:45] <blackshirt> but, i'm sure we can place it everywhere
[05:45] <m1chael> i upgraded my ubuntu, and my screen is flickering/black, i drag the mousse around and click, and things become kind of visible, it's very random and weird.. i dont know what to do to fix this.. it's a dual boot with windows xp...
[05:46] <intok> bazhang the trials and tribulations of running the unofficial port of Ubuntu PPC on a 2002 PowerMac...
[05:47] <MaskedMakrel> Is there a way to change the 10.10 toolbar so that is disappears when not in use and is at the bottom instead?
[05:47] <MaskedMakrel> I mean the app toolbar, not the main menue
[05:47] <heckj> blackshirt: initrd exists in /install/initrd.gz on the USB key - drop it in there? I tried stopping the installer when it was rolling and opened the busybox shell. I didn't see any of the .cfg files that drove the installer in that setup
[05:49] <MaskedMakrel> Can I get rid of or modify the massive screen eating toolbar in 10.10 that looks like an Apple style bar?
[05:49] <blackshirt> heckj: have you look at your root installer  ?
[05:49] <syrinx_> MaskedMakrel: in 10.10?
[05:49] <MaskedMakrel> Yes
[05:49] <MaskedMakrel> In 10.10
[05:50] <syrinx_> I think you mean 11.04
[05:50] <MaskedMakrel> No, its 10.10
[05:50] <IdleOne> syrinx_: no he means ubuntu UNR
[05:50] <MaskedMakrel> Yup UNR 10.10
[05:50] <IdleOne> Ubuntu netbook Remix
[05:50] <syrinx_> ah
[05:50] <linux_is_my_hero> what is the best way to rip cd's to 320kbps mp3's including fetching music info prior to ripping
[05:50] <bobweaver> cyperbg, you still here
[05:50] <heckj> blackshirt: I'm not sure how - I can mount the USB key and look around it, but I'm not sure what's actually get loaded and when.
[05:51] <MaskedMakrel> It kind of wastes screen space on a netbook...
[05:51] <bobweaver> cyperbg, sudo /ect/init.d/gdm restart
[05:51] <linux_is_my_hero> yeah 11.04 kinda pissed me off with integration of ubuntu one which i don't use
[05:51] <syrinx_> MaskedMakrel: just switch to Ubuntu Desktop
[05:51] <linux_is_my_hero> if anyone knows how to disable ubuntu one in 11.04 please tell me it just makes it slower
[05:52] <MaskedMakrel> Okay, how does it switch?
[05:52] <syrinx_> MaskedMakrel: log out, and at the login screen theres a dropdown box
[05:52] <IdleOne> syrinx_: not if he installed UNR
[05:52] <IdleOne> I don't think
[05:52] <syrinx_> I believe it should be there
[05:53] <MaskedMakrel> Alright, brb :)
[05:56] <MaskedMakrel> Thanks!  It worked.  I'm using Desktop edition now.
[05:56] <MaskedMakrel> No more space eating toolbar.
[05:57] <heckj> I'll try back in tomorrow...
[05:57] <IdleOne> MaskedMakrel: I guess I was wrong, cookie for syrinx_ :)
[05:58] <MaskedMakrel> It's sort of at the bottom.  Kind of a strange place, but if you look for it, you can see it.
[05:58] <MaskedMakrel> So, it's much better for me with the smaller netbook screen.
[05:58] <MaskedMakrel> Not sure why they default to the large applestyle menu on a netbook.  Makes more sense on a larger monitor.
[06:02] <linux_is_my_hero> i need help with sound juicer: I can't get it to see the "mp3" output format even though its on the list of availible formats in the "Edit profiles". :-(
[06:05] <MaskedMakrel> Next question is a bit more difficult.  I'm using an Asus 1015PEB and the webcam won't work with Tinychat.  Any ideas?
[06:07] <lawltoad> thanks all for the input, late
[06:10] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i add new output formats to sound juicer?
[06:12] <MaskedMakrel> Guess it's for another night.  Thanks for the help with the menu bars though.
[06:13] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html linux_is_my_hero this?
[06:13] <m1chael> i upgraded my ubuntu, and my screen is flickering/black, i drag the mousse around and click, and things become kind of visible, it's very random and weird.. i dont know what to do to fix this.. it's a dual boot with windows xp...
[06:16] <linux_is_my_hero> m1chael: after the bios, you get the grub boot loader os selection screen...the flickering problem is when you pick windows or linux?
[06:17] <linux_is_my_hero> once i get a **.tar.bz2 file how do i uncompress it to install?
[06:18] <bazhang> linux_is_my_hero, what is the package
[06:18] <linux_is_my_hero> bazhang: "rubyripper-0.6.0.tar.bz2"
[06:18] <linux_is_my_hero> what is a tar, and what is a bz2? im transitioning from linux to windows and i wanna learn how all of this stuff works.
[06:19] <linux_is_my_hero> :-D
[06:19] <andantino> do you have the file in the directory where you want it
[06:19] <bazhang> linux_is_my_hero, in place of sound-juicer? better to install from the repos
[06:19] <linux_is_my_hero> sound-juicer wouldn't even see its own alternative output formats, so i couldn't use mp3 format.
[06:20] <bazhang> linux_is_my_hero, I gave you a link for that
[06:20] <linux_is_my_hero> i went looking for help with that and heard rubyripper is better for several reasons
[06:24] <thegoodcushion> Does anyone know of software that can help me arrange a study plan?  Like messages (lessons) that have to come in a particular order or frequency?
[06:25] <adurodea> thegoodcushion: google calander?
[06:25] <thegoodcushion> I don't think it's quite the same.  I want to be able to postpone lessons etc
[06:26] <adurodea> i'm goin gto stick with any worthwhile calander app should do that
[06:26] <adurodea> unless i misunderstood the question
[06:26] <ectospasm> yeah, but a calendar app that's geared towards writing lesson plans.
[06:27] <dr_Willis> !tar
[06:27] <hayseus> pants
[06:27] <thegoodcushion> well I'm thinking of buying a stack of blank business cards, breaking up each item that I'm trying to learn into half-hour chunks, then arranging the cards into some type of order so that I can do between 1 and 6 lessons a day, where each subject's cards are in the correct order.  Then I can pull the cards out in sequence.
[06:28] <ectospasm> thegoodcushion: http://www.internet4classrooms.com/links_grades_kindergarten_12/lesson_plan_templates_teacher_tools.htm
[06:28] <ectospasm> that's for primary and secondary school
[06:29] <thegoodcushion> yeah, a bit like that but more flexible
[06:29] <thegoodcushion> like when I was in high school we'd have 6 periods per day and 5 days per week, and a lesson in each one
[06:30] <thegoodcushion> like that, but because I'm just an adult working by myself I might take a day off or do twice as much in a day
[06:30] <sharperguy> thegoodcushion, I remember there was a piece of software where you make flash cards with questions on them, and then when it shows you one, you can try to answer it first and then indicate how confident you were with it, and it'll wait longer to show you it again if you know it well
[06:30] <thegoodcushion> yeah
[06:31] <thegoodcushion> I used it to learn Japanese characters
[06:31] <thegoodcushion> that's more like what I want than a calendar is
[06:31] <thegoodcushion> is it called anki?
[06:31] <sharperguy> maybe
[06:32] <bazhang> !info anki
[06:32] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, ^
[06:33] <thegoodcushion> yep
[06:33] <newbie|4> hello guys, I would like to know how can I update the program vesion of the Software center
[06:33] <thegoodcushion> look, I can do it manually with business-card size bits of card
[06:34] <bazhang> newbie|4, upgrade version of ubuntu will do that
[06:34] <newbie|4> its that the only thing I can do?
[06:34] <newbie|4> I don't want to upgrade
[06:34] <bazhang> newbie|4, why do you need the higher version
[06:35] <newbie|4> because I want the lastest version of a program
[06:35] <celthunder> sup ectospasm
[06:36] <thegoodcushion> I think he wants to upgrade his repo source
[06:36] <queso> What's with the recent update to grub that requires you to say "Yes" to continue without installing grub in order to continue with the upgrade, when in fact, grub is installed and being upgraded (lucid)?
[06:36] <bazhang> !latest | newbie|4
[06:36] <dr_Willis> what progra,
[06:36] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, thats not right
[06:36] <tensorpudding> newbie|4: the version that comes with your version of ubuntu is the version you can have
[06:36] <thegoodcushion> bazhang: okay maybe he wants a backport or ppa
[06:36] <bazhang> dr_Willis, software center
[06:36] <IdleOne> thegoodcushion: stop guessing and make sure before answering
[06:36] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, there is not much chance software center will be backported
[06:37] <dr_Willis> hes was a little vague about thay
[06:37] <criten166> how's ubuntu's current built in multi-monitor tools like?
[06:37] <criten166> Have they gotten better from v8
[06:37] <bazhang> criten166, xrandr?
[06:38] <criten166> the main problem i used to have was rotating monitors
[06:38] <thegoodcushion> I don't think he wanted to upgrade software center, he wanted to upgrade something else and he thought that upgrading software center would give him the later versions of software
[06:38] <linux_is_my_hero> where does linux put program files?
[06:38] <criten166> linux_is_my_hero: check the bin folder
[06:38] <dr_Willis> criten166:  unity can have issues witj multi ,oni setups
[06:38] <celthunder> linux_is_my_hero: depends where you install it to
[06:38] <criten166> linux_is_my_hero: you can check where a program has installed things through the apt manager
[06:39] <taglass> linux_is_my_hero, man hier to get a feel for where linux puts files.
[06:39] <dr_Willis> linux_is_my_hero:  depends on the app also
[06:39] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview linux_is_my_hero
[06:39] <criten166> dr_Willis: unity? The java game engine?
[06:40] <dr_Willis>  !unity
[06:40] <criten166> Oh wow... i've missed alot hahaha
[06:40] <dr_Willis> never hearf of the java thang
[06:40] <FreeMan> hi there, I used WUBI.exe to install ubuntu but unfortunately it only cang et started when I boot from ubuntu. I read somewhere that u can use WUBI.exe to run Ubuntu in Windows as a client/window. I use Windows 7.
[06:41] <criten166> dr_Willis: it's been about a year since i've touched ubuntu
[06:42] <dr_Willis> unity interface and nulti monitors can be flakey and weird
[06:42] <criten166> dr_Willis: well that's a shame...
[06:42] <dr_Willis> just a warning
[06:43] <dr_Willis> kde may be better for you.
[06:43] <dr_Willis> it all depends on what you are doing
[06:43] <criten166> I hate the new KDE
[06:44] <criten166> atleast what i used last time..
[06:44] <dr_Willis> new? its old now heh.
[06:44] <criten166> bahahaha as i said... it's been a while
[06:44] <dr_Willis> !lubuntu
[06:44] <dr_Willis> lxde is nice in ways also
[06:45] <adurodea> criten166: most ui's are going towards unusability and mass effects that just make things worse unfortunately :( good thing theres still a few decent ones out
[06:45] <dr_Willis> these things go in cycles it seems
[06:46] <myst1c> Network Manger works, GUI wicd works, Wicd-curses does not. can anybody help me?
[06:46] <adurodea> myst1c: use python2 or 3
[06:46] <adurodea> myst1c: python3 breaks wicd
[06:47] <adurodea> for wicd-curses do you have ncurses?
[06:47] <bobweaver> anyone know how to make your own repo
[06:47] <adurodea> dr_Willis: yeah true enough
[06:47] <wafflesausage> adurodea: is there not a package for both python 2 and 3?
[06:47] <myst1c> adurdea my interface works, but it won't connect
[06:47] <wafflesausage> adurodea: Actually, what I should've asked, can't you have both installed simultaneously?
[06:48] <[FKU]Greycloak> finally got upgraded to natty...and now compiz doesn't work
[06:48] <criten166> maybe someday ill give ubuntu a whirl again. : P
[06:48] <[FKU]Greycloak> i can enable compiz, but windows tend to disappear randomly
[06:49] <dr_Willis> windows or titlebar and decorations?
[06:49] <[FKU]Greycloak> all of it
[06:49] <[FKU]Greycloak> if i ctrl+alt+left or right, the window will reappear
[06:49] <xiambax> I can start ubuntu in low graphics mode
[06:49] <[FKU]Greycloak> and if I draw a selection, it repaints the windows
[06:49] <[FKU]Greycloak> its bizarre
[06:49] <xiambax> how can i set X to run the way it does in low graphics mode
[06:49] <xiambax> Its an MSI with a 8200
[06:49] <myst1c> adurodea: wicd-curses interface works. shows my network, hangs on "Obtaining IP Address," then says not connected
[06:49] <[FKU]Greycloak> worked fine on 9.10 and 10.10
[06:50] <xiambax> Boots to black screen with cursor otherwise
[06:50] <wawa> hello
[06:50] <ubuntun00b> is there a fix for ubuntu 10.10 with hp touchpads?
[06:50] <wawa> anyone here?
[06:50] <wawa> anybody?
[06:50] <wafflesausage> wawa: Yes.
[06:50] <wawa> yes
[06:50] <wawa> yes
[06:51] <wawa> i know
[06:51] <[FKU]Greycloak> funny thing is that when compiz is enabled, all of the effects work great
[06:51] <wawa> but wo forget the name
[06:51] <bazhang> wawa, ubuntu support question?
[06:51] <wawa> yes
[06:51] <myst1c> adurodea: also, python 2.6.5
[06:51] <Blue1> ubuntun00b: what issue?
[06:51] <xiambax> Anyone know how I would start X with the same settings it does in failsafe graphics mode?
[06:51] <bazhang> wawa, then please ask
[06:51] <ubuntun00b> 10.10 issue with laptop mousepads. can't right click or drag windows
[06:52] <wawa> now i use linux mint
[06:52] <wawa> ubuntu is large
[06:52] <bazhang> wawa, then go to mintsupport, that is not supported here
[06:52] <wawa> i like ubuntu
[06:52] <wafflesausage> mint is probably "larger" than ubuntu anyway
[06:53] <wawa> realy?
[06:53] <bazhang> !mintsupport | wawa
[06:53] <wawa> i do not know
[06:53] <bazhang> wawa, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:53] <Blue1> xiambax: prolly backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if it exists) then copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf -- YMMV applies
[06:53] <wafflesausage> Well, mint is a derivative of ubtuntu, so we may be able to help him if he has an ubuntu-related question
[06:53] <bazhang> wafflesausage, nope not here
[06:54] <wafflesausage> bazhang: So rebranded versions of ubuntu are simply unsupported in IRC?
[06:54] <hamt> hi all
[06:54] <bazhang> wafflesausage, on this channel
[06:54] <Madpilot> wafflesausage, no, they make their own support arrangements elsewhere
[06:55] <wafflesausage> That's what I meant.
[06:55] <Kacper> Hi
[06:55] <hamt> exit from fullscreen applications logs off user
[06:55] <hamt> any help?
[06:55] <silv3r_m00n> eth0 is at speed 100mbps , need to make it 10mbps , where can this be configured
[06:55] <Blue1> hamt: how are you exiting?
[06:56] <siva> From where i can known the details of ubuntu arm
[06:56] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, using wondershaper?
[06:56] <Blue1> silv3r_m00n: you don't need to do anything -
[06:56] <bazhang> !info wondershaper | silv3r_m00n
[06:56] <hamt> blue1: from inside the application
[06:56] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, or trickle?
[06:56] <silv3r_m00n> let me try
[06:56] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i create a folder/document in a place where linux wont let me?
[06:56] <bazhang> !info trickle | silv3r_m00n
[06:57] <Blue1> hamt: okay what are you hitting, or doing specifically?  what application specifically?
[06:57] <bazhang> linux_is_my_hero, why do you wish to
[06:57] <linux_is_my_hero> because im in control of the computer.
[06:57] <hamt> Blue1: stellarium
[06:57] <ab2tract> gksudo nautilus
[06:57] <Blue1> hamt: I have that installed let me try it.
[06:57] <bazhang> linux_is_my_hero, and what is the proposed change?
[06:57] <silv3r_m00n> is wondershaper a gui tool ?
[06:57] <hamt> Blue1: also in case of tux racer
[06:57] <ab2tract> will open a window to allow you to create/delete files/folders
[06:57] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, no idea there
[06:57] <linux_is_my_hero> to add a folder to usr/lib64 so i can add another program
[06:58] <linux_is_my_hero> from the gui
[06:58] <bazhang> linux_is_my_hero, thats not the way to go about that
[06:58] <Blue1> hamt: how are you exitting, via the icon?
[06:58] <silv3r_m00n> bazhang: is there a file where I can save this configuration permanently , for now I have to do   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  sudo ethtool -s eth0 duplex full speed 10 autoneg off everyday
[06:58] <hamt> Blue1: Yes
[06:58] <hamt> Blue1: The one in the bototm
[06:58] <ab2tract> linux_is_my_hero: use "gksudo nautilus"
[06:58] <linux_is_my_hero> this is 2011. the terminal is great, but really if theyre gunna make linux this painful then ill go back to 10.10
[06:58] <hamt> Blue1: I guess the problem lies with opengl
[06:58] <linux_is_my_hero> ill try gksudo nautilus.
[06:59] <Blue1> hamt: I have no issues here -- but I am running 10.10 - what are you running?
[06:59] <bazhang> ab2tract, look what he's trying to do
[06:59] <ab2tract> hmmm
[06:59] <hamt> 11.04
[06:59] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, make a launcher script?
[06:59] <hamt> Blue1: 11.04, KDE
[06:59] <silv3r_m00n> I even wrote it to rc file for executing everytime
[07:00] <silv3r_m00n> I mean rc.local
[07:00] <Blue1> hamt: ahh I am running 10.10, 64 bit, gnome - so we are comparing apples to oranges I fear - what happens if you try a control+q?
[07:00] <Evanescence> does anyone know how to load subtitle file in mplayer ? my subtitle file is kk.srt
[07:00] <hamt> Blue1: let me see
[07:00] <shift_> #ubuntu how to bring gnome oanel in ubuntu 11.04 natty???
[07:01] <ab2tract> linux_is_my_hero: your trying to "install" a program by copying and pasting?
[07:01] <Blue1> Evanescence: subtitle or closed captions?  I Know how to do the captioning.
[07:01] <shift_> panel
[07:01] <bazhang> shift_, use classic you mean?
[07:01] <hamt_> Blue1: It logged me off :-(
[07:02] <Blue1> hamt:  :-(
[07:02] <Evanescence> Blue1 <- I need to load a file contail what is saying in movie. need a option for mplayer
[07:02] <shift_> #ubuntu how to bring gnome panel in ubuntu 11.04 natty???
[07:02] <bazhang> !classic | shift_
[07:02] <frozeninferno> i need help restoring unity back to default settings in 11.04. i was messing with some compiz stuff and i completely lost my UI except the icons on my desktop
[07:02] <Blue1> Evanescence: well this will do the closed captioning -- http://pkill-9.com/how-to-play-closed-captioned-dvd-on-linux/  I don't know about subtitles though
[07:03] <MaxHR> Hello, I wish to try ubuntu from a usbpen drive live, but my bios doesn't support usb booting, already have winxp on this computer... any way to boot from the usbpen w/o using a cd boot disk?
[07:03] <Evanescence> Blue1 <- anyway,thx
[07:03] <Blue1> Evanescence: sorry
[07:04] <frozeninferno> i need help restoring unity back to default settings in 11.04. i was messing with some compiz stuff and i completely lost my UI except the icons on my desktop
[07:04] <bazhang> frozeninferno, try #compiz perhaps
[07:04] <frozeninferno> bazhang: i don't really care about the compiz stuff enough to mess with it, i just want the default UI back
[07:05] <ab2tract> bazhang: you want gnome?
[07:05] <ab2tract> or unity
[07:05] <bazhang> ab2tract, tab miscomplete I guess
[07:05] <bazhang> ab2tract, its shift_ not me
[07:06] <ab2tract> hah sorry tired
[07:07] <ectospasm> I've got an issue with Bluetooth.  My Bluetooth devices will work fine, they'll pair, and everything is OK.  But after a period of inactivity, the devices (keyboard, mouse, and Wiimote) will show as connected, but no events from them are processed on the system
[07:07] <frozeninferno> i need help restoring unity back to default settings in 11.04. i was messing with some compiz stuff and i completely lost my UI except the icons on my desktop
[07:07] <ectospasm> essentially the devices go dead.  turning them off and back on only sometimes resolves it (temporarily)
[07:10] <pratz> hey guys i have created an executable python file ex (./clockout.py), but when i use a symbolic to /usr/bin/clockin , the clockin command is not found , any ideas ??
[07:11] <Abc> hi...how can I know the temprature of my system and rpm of fan etc... ?
[07:11] <shorttech> can anyone assist with dual monitors???
[07:11] <bazhang> !xrandr | shorttech
[07:11] <bazhang> Abc, using conky for the temps, not sure about fan speed
[07:12] <bazhang> Abc, as in display them on your desktop?
[07:12] <bazhang> !sensors > Abc
[07:13] <shorttech> ubottu do you have dual screens? Because I think Im encontering a bug
[07:13] <wildbat> hmm, anyone installed lxde / lubuntu have idea why "ALT+f2 or W+R " work only once ==;?
[07:14] <shorttech> ubottu lol
[07:14] <shorttech> so is there anyone there with dual screen and nvidia cards?
[07:15] <ab2tract> shorttech: do you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[07:15] <shorttech> ab2tract yes
[07:16] <shorttech> ab2tract I installed the recomended driver
[07:16] <Abc> bazhang : I want the temprature to be displayed on panel..
[07:17] <ab2tract> shorttech have you gone to system>administration>nvidia x server settings
[07:17] <shorttech> ab2tract the problem is when I run Nvidia-settings. After I enable the second screen and activate Xinerema and restart I get a problem with the screens
[07:17] <ab2tract> my setup was mostly automatic
[07:17] <shorttech> ab2tract both screen turn on, but one of the screens is black and all I can see is the mouse pointer
[07:19] <shorttech> ab2tract also when I have the mouse on screen 1 its actually controlling screen 2
[07:21] <shorttech> so anyone else out there that can help?
[07:22] <ubuntun00b> ubuntu wont open different partions eventhough there listed in "places" any suggestions?
[07:23] <szal> ubuntun00b: error msgs please
[07:23] <ubuntun00b> none given
[07:23] <ubuntun00b> or you mean through terminal?
[07:23] <GhostWolf> hi all, i was wondering if anyone know how i can revert or remove my current version of firefox? i need a toolbar and it is not compatible with the 5.0 version
[07:23] <Nuge> Is there a way to use the Gnome environment rather than the Unity environment on a USB live session of 11.04?
[07:24] <Nuge> GhostWolf, you can always uninstall then re-install Firefox4.
[07:24] <GhostWolf> Nuge, i tried to uninstall but its telling me its not on or no such thing
[07:25] <Nuge> You've reached the extent of my knowledge. That's the only way I would know how.
[07:25] <szal> ubuntun00b: if Nautilus or whatever you use works remotely like Dolphin, you should see a HAL or udisks msg when trying to enter a partition that "won't open"
[07:25] <ab2tract> !classic | nuge
[07:26] <Nuge> ab2tract, live USB session.
[07:26] <Nuge> Haha... okay then.
[07:26] <GhostWolf> does anyone here know how to remove/unintall the current version of firefox so i can install an older version?
[07:26] <szal> ubuntun00b: counterchecking on the terminal might also help (ls -lA /mount/point)
[07:26] <Nuge> GhostWolf, you uninstall it in the Software Center.
[07:27] <ethics27> hi
[07:27] <GhostWolf> Nuge things are better through terminal..
[07:27] <GhostWolf> not everything gets removed if you're always do things through software
[07:27] <GhostWolf> center
[07:27] <Nuge> I use the Software Center and everything removes fine.
[07:28] <Nuge> Anything extraneous that is left over is removed by my computer janitor.
[07:28] <Nuge> But suit yourself.
[07:28] <Nuge> To each his own.
[07:28] <GhostWolf> thats why you use terminal. you can do it at once and not need to do extra steps
[07:28] <MaxHR> is there an easy way to install grub from within windows xp to the mbr?
[07:28] <GhostWolf> i never even used the computer janitor
[07:29] <szal> if you want reliable autoremove when uninstalling stuff, use aptitude exclusively
[07:29] <szal> MaxHR: no, since Grub is not a Windows program
[07:30] <GhostWolf> szal, i've tried to do it through term but as i mentioned it doesn't show any firefox through term i type sudo apt-get remove firefox5.0 and it says no such thing as firefox5.0
[07:30] <szal> !pm | ubuntun00b
[07:31] <MaxHR> szal: I realize that, I was looking for a windows program that could install grub to mbr... or if that doesn't exist, another useful bootloader, so that I can run ubuntu or other linux live from usb, as my bios doesn't support usbpendrive boot
[07:32] <ubuntun00b> alright well when i try and open the other pations (using Thunar) is says  "failed to mount...daemon is inhibited"
[07:33] <szal> MaxHR: then get a CD drive
[07:34] <MaxHR> I have a cd drive, I am looking for a way to avoid wasting a cd
[07:34] <comodoro> hola buenas noches a todos
[07:36] <shottech1> still need help with dual monitors
[07:36] <shottech1> please someone
[07:36] <comodoro> hola estoy buscando ayuda para restaurar el funcionamineto del teclado de mi laptop, ya que cuendo iniio sesion estn desactivados..:(
[07:37] <IdleOne> !es | comodoro
[07:37] <ubuntun00b> anyone know why ubunut won't let me access other partions on the main hard drive (error:daemon is inhibited"
[07:37] <Onederfool> Hello World!
[07:37] <ectospasm> ubuntun00b: open a terminal, try to navigate to the mounted drive there
[07:37] <ectospasm> ubuntun00b: it may be Thunar
[07:37] <comodoro> jejeejejejej mejor porque no domino bien el ingles gracias!! eres muy amable
[07:38] <ectospasm> ¿que?
[07:41] <Onederfool> Is there a difference between this compared to installing it in terminal via 'apt-get install xchat'?
[07:41] <shottech1> how do I go back to a xorg.conf that I backed up?
[07:42] <linuxuz3r> shottech1 go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak
[07:43] <wildbat> ubuntun00b: could be you have some app running blocking that function ~ like gparted
[07:43] <shottech1> linuxuz3r thats it?
[07:44] <szal> MaxHR: buy a pack of CDRWs
[07:44] <ubuntun00b> will check
[07:45] <ubuntun00b> lol that was it...
[07:45] <ubuntun00b> thanks
[07:46] <shottech1> how do I kill gnome?
[07:46] <shottech1> will init 3 work?
[07:46] <MaxHR> szal: that would be ok, but I will be running from the usbpen drive all the time, no HD install, so I want to boot and run from the usb, the cd/dvd drive in this old laptop is on its way out, same w/ HD
[07:46] <MaxHR> I found grub4dos, which may work
[07:47] <ectospasm> shottech1: service gdm restart always works for me.
[07:47] <szal> MaxHR: how will you run from USB if the machine can't boot from it?
[07:47] <ectospasm> MaxHR: there's always syslinux
[07:47] <shottech1> ectospasm but if i want to kill gdm completely?
[07:47] <ectospasm> shottech1: service gdm stop
[07:47] <shottech1> ectospasm thank you
[07:48] <wifi-issues> I am having issues with my wireless internet at the moment after installing ubuntu on my new acer aspire 7551-7422 notebook computer. Every other device on the network gets fast download speeds (non ubuntu). Mine only gets 20kb/s. and causes games / sites to load slowly.
[07:48] <MaxHR> szal: the bootloader on the HD
[07:48] <FreeMan> hi there, I used WUBI.exe to install ubuntu but unfortunately it only cang et started when I boot from ubuntu. I read somewhere that u can use WUBI.exe to run Ubuntu in Windows as a client/window. I use Windows 7.
[07:48] <szal> FreeMan: use VirtualBox, way less trouble
[07:48] <szal> FreeMan: or do a real install
[07:49] <satellite10399> hello
[07:49] <shottech1> ectospasm do you know how to swtich back to the backup xorg.conf.backup?
[07:50] <wildbat> shottech1: can't you just rename the file back ?
[07:50] <ectospasm> shottech1: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.broken  && cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:51] <shottech1> ectospasm I got it. I have to exchange the files - thankyou!
[07:51] <nero__> hello
[07:52] <bkerensa> mm
[07:52] <satellite10399> anyone know how i can make wget ignore downloading files containing "index.php?title=" ...
[07:52] <bkerensa> with a query following?
[07:52] <nero__> i jus downloaded ubuntu on my desktop
[07:52] <bkerensa> nero__: Hello
[07:52] <FreeMan> aH VIRTUAL BOX Ok
[07:52] <satellite10399> i tried -A -R but am not successful
[07:52] <bkerensa> nero__: Need help?
[07:52] <nero__> wats the difference between this and linux
[07:52] <FreeMan> thnks for hint, should have thought of that myself
[07:52] <FreeMan> =)
[07:53] <bkerensa> nero__: Ubuntu is linux
[07:53] <nero__> oh
[07:53] <nero__> is its like an updgaded
[07:53] <nero__> upgrade
[07:53] <bkerensa> nero___: There are many flavors (distributions) of linux
[07:53] <nero__> yes i kno
[07:53] <bkerensa> nero__: Nope its a full
[07:53] <szal> nero__: Linux is the kernel, what's built around it is the distribution, and Ubuntu is one of several hundred
[07:53] <nero__> this is the easiest flavor rite
[07:54] <bkerensa> nero__: Its very user friendly
[07:54] <nero__> yea i kno theres a lot
[07:54] <nero__> i messed with free bsd
[07:54] <nero__> n a few others
[07:54] <szal> "easy" and "user-friendly" are in the eye of the beholder..  but *buntu isn't the most popular for nothing
[07:54] <Christoph_vW> any idea why aptitude wants to install firefox-locale when I try to update my servers?
[07:55] <odix> anybody know the best way to set static router ips through ubuntu? it seems i can do it through editing /etc/network/interfaces, but outgoing traffic isnt working correct...
[07:55] <szal> nero__: and you might want to speak proper English in here if you don't want to get the queer eye ;)
[07:55] <nero__> one question
[07:55] <Christoph_vW> I don't have firefox installed - and it is pretty useless on a server without GUI
[07:55] <odix> and hostnames are not resolving which probably has to do with the dns
[07:55] <anonwifiissues> I am having issues with my wifi download speed on the ubuntu computer. It is downloading at 20kb per second now. (1.6kb atm on minecraft)
[07:55] <nero__> for example when i watch videos like youtube the video doesnt show clear
[07:56] <nero__> like black spots blinking threw out the video
[07:56] <andantino> thats flash player for linux i think
[07:56] <shottech1> ectospasm whats the best editor on ubuntu to edit xorg.conf?
[07:56] <nero__> i dwl adobe the latest one
[07:56] <szal> odix: sudo route add default gw <IP or NetBIOS name of machine>
[07:56] <ectospasm> shottech1: I prefer vim, but "best" is definitely a matter of taste.
[07:56] <nero__> n still gives prbs
[07:56] <andantino> ya flash stinks
[07:57] <andantino> streaming vids are a little buggy right
[07:57] <odix> szal ?
[07:57] <nero__> is ubuntu compatable with asus netbooks
[07:57] <andantino> when you make them full screen you get a bit of a white flash etc
[07:57] <odix> i want the computer connecting to the router to assign itself a static ip
[07:58] <andantino> i think they have asus nnotebooks with ubuntu preinstalled
[07:58] <nero__> like the videos and webcam and favorite buttons on the netbook
[07:58] <odix> while still using dhcp, sort of requesting it frmo that router, is that possible without have to use inet static ?
[07:58] <nero__> i baught mine with win xp n installed winds. 7 pro
[07:58] <nero__> and now i want linus on it
[07:58] <odix> also i have another quit weird problem, when ubuntu logs in i just get a terminal screen with the ubuntu background and thast it.
[07:59] <wildbat> hmm, anyone installed lxde / lubuntu have idea why "ALT+f2 or W+R " work only once ?
[07:59] <nero__> dam ubuntu doesnt seem so great
[07:59] <ectospasm> nero__: welcome to Ubuntu!
[07:59] <fairuz> Hi, Natty support is here?
[08:00] <fairuz> or +1?
[08:00] <shottech1> whats the urpmi alike for ubuntu?
[08:00] <nero__> so i guess i should have sticked with windows 7
[08:00] <ectospasm> fairuz: natty should be supported here
[08:00] <szal> shottech1: either apt-get or aptitude
[08:00] <andantino> sudo apt-get install
[08:00] <scriptwarlock> nero_: remember ubuntu is not windows
[08:00] <shottech1> thank you
[08:00] <nero__> i kno
[08:00] <ectospasm> nero__: remember how much you've paid for Ubuntu.
[08:00] <fairuz> Hi, is there no taskbar on Unity?
[08:00] <nero__> yes nothing
[08:01] <nero__> thats y
[08:01] <andantino> what package do you want shottech?
[08:01] <nero__> its free so its a little weird
[08:01] <Onederfool> is back|track an alternative to ubuntu or can it be implemented within it??
[08:01] <ectospasm> nero__: like any system, it takes getting used to
[08:01] <szal> !backtrack | Onederfool
[08:01] <scriptwarlock> i smell fishy
[08:01] <andantino> fairuz you can make one
[08:01] <szal> scriptwarlock: go wash yourself :P
[08:01] <andantino> or just use the classic desktop
[08:01]  * scriptwarlock washes my nose
[08:02] <shottech1> anyone out there that can help with dual monitors?? I have been hitting my head against the wall.. I just can get this thing to work right
[08:02] <xt3mp0r> shottech1: whats the problem?
[08:02] <ectospasm> shottech1: I use two monitors in Debian here at work
[08:02] <xt3mp0r>  me too
[08:02] <ectospasm> I'm either using TwinView or Xinerama
[08:02] <ectospasm> ...can't remember which
[08:03] <scriptwarlock> me too i'm using dual monitor but this is ubuntu
[08:03] <andantino> fairuz where do you want your taskbar?
[08:03] <shottech1> ectospasm Im trying to use Xinerama, but I keep finding problems
[08:03] <scriptwarlock> and its working properly
[08:03] <ectospasm> shottech1: yeah, you may want to try XRandR
[08:03] <shottech1> xt3mp0r the problem starts after I make changes on Nvidia-settings
[08:03] <fairuz> andantino: I don't mind where, but it will help a lot if I have one =)
[08:04] <andantino> you know what i prefer
[08:04] <ectospasm> fairuz: taskbars are overrated (-;)
[08:04] <anonwifiissues> I am having issues with my wifi download speed on the ubuntu computer. It is downloading at 20kb per second now. (1.6kb atm on minecraft)
[08:04] <andantino> i would switch to ubuntu classic desktop
[08:04] <fairuz> ectospasm: But it's kinda weird not having it :D
[08:04] <andantino> and add windows buttons to the bottom panel
[08:04] <fairuz> andantino: I'm doing that right now but for me Unity is cool
[08:04] <ectospasm> fairuz: matter of opinion (-;  I don't have any taskbars
[08:05] <andantino> you could also just add a panel to the bottom of unity
[08:05] <andantino> im sure that is doable
[08:05] <shottech1> xt3mp0r after I active the second screen and xinerama. I restart the computer afterwards and them the problem starts. Both screen turn on, but one of the screens is black. Also, for me to do something on screen 1 i need to have my mouse on screen 2
[08:05] <andantino> and then add windows buttons or whatever
[08:05] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, ins't that a wifi issue and not ubuntu? what have you done before it slows down?
[08:05] <shottech1> ectospasm is XrandaR a software or dirver?
[08:05] <fairuz> andantino: WIll try that
[08:05] <odix> szal..
[08:05] <odix> can i msg you
[08:06] <ectospasm> shottech1: good question, I dunno
[08:06] <ectospasm> shottech1: lemme look
[08:06] <szal> odix: no
[08:06] <szal> odix: keep it in the channel please
[08:06] <odix> ok whatever
[08:06] <andantino> i liked unity at first but then switched back to classic, i find it better
[08:07]  * szal KDE <3
[08:07] <scriptwarlock> get used to the DE's you like guys and not compare
[08:07] <andantino> we aint fightin over it script
[08:07] <andantino> :P
[08:08] <scriptwarlock> hehehe
[08:08] <ectospasm> shottech1: it's software.  Although a driver *IS* software
[08:09] <ectospasm> shottech1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#How_to_setup_a_dual_monitor
[08:09] <odix> how do you figure out your netmask
[08:10] <odix> nvm ifconfig
[08:10] <llutz_> odix: ip addr
[08:10] <shottech1> ectospasm thank you let me give it a shot
[08:11] <fairuz> ectospasm: Just wondering since you are not using taskbar, so what do you use to know which programs are opened, to switch from one program to another, etc? alt + tab?
[08:12] <andantino> screen switcher?
[08:12] <anonwifiissues> scriptwarlock, no its ubuntu, haven't had wifi issues before ubuntu. ;D I was the one you helped with the wifi issue last night, of it not showing up. I fixed it to show up. But now its downloading slowly. My other computers / iphones / ipad download just fine.
[08:13] <Totem-Schalter> hello
[08:13] <ectospasm> fairuz: I use a bunch of different workspaces in XMonad, and each workspace has a title which gives an idea of that workspaces purpose.
[08:13] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, wifi speed probably is 54kbps?
[08:13] <shottech1> to restart pc from terminal?
[08:13] <ectospasm> fairuz: I switch completely by keyboard for the most part
[08:14] <ectospasm> shottech1: reboot (-;
[08:14] <andantino> sudo reboot?
[08:14] <fairuz> ectospasm: Ok, It's the matter of time before I get used to it :D
[08:14] <andantino> you werent able to add a panel fairuz?
[08:14] <anonwifiissues> scriptwarlock, wifi speed of router / network or that I get when I download a file?
[08:15] <shottech1> I forgot the sudo first, thats why it was not working :)
[08:15] <random123> Hi everyone!!.. I by mistake changed the File Owner for the file "/etc/sudoers" file from  root to <my username>. Now I am getting following error on running "sudo <command>"
[08:15] <random123> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1010, should be 0
[08:15] <random123> Any suggestions on how to resolve the issue
[08:15] <llutz_> random123: boot a live-cd, repair
[08:15] <ectospasm> random123: have you set a root password?
[08:15] <fairuz> andantino: I'm at work so can't test it now. I will try your suggestion when I get back
[08:15] <ectospasm> random123: no need to boot LiveCD, just boot into single user mode
[08:15] <random123> ectospasm: The root password isn't set
[08:16] <shottech1> I got my screens to work!!! Finally
[08:17] <andantino> do we all get a round of drink shottech?
[08:17] <ectospasm> random123: to boot into single user mode, edit the grub menu at boot, add the word "single" (without quotes) to the kernel line, and boot from it
[08:17] <shottech1> but its not working right :(
[08:17] <andantino> bahhh
[08:17] <shottech1> I should be able to drag windowsn from one screen to the other correct?
[08:17] <random123> ectospasm: tks a ton!!! :) will try that out
[08:17] <shottech1> I can move the mouse curser bettween both screen but it will not let me drag windowns
[08:18] <shottech1> is that normal for ubuntu? I hope not
[08:18] <ectospasm> shottech1: sounds like it's a setting... your two displays are actually different software screens, instead of one big desktop
[08:19] <ectospasm> except for my MythTV machine, I haven't dragged a window in *forever*
[08:19] <ectospasm> well, I take that back
[08:19] <ectospasm> I do have some floating windows.
[08:20] <shottech1> ectospasm so how would I use this as "different software screens"?
[08:20] <lenzoid> Is there a way to get Alt-Tab back into the modern Ubuntu desktop?
[08:20] <johanhar> Hi. Any tools I can use to search-replace many files, with a confirm for each replace? Like in vim, ":%s/something/something_new/gc" - but for all my files in the project :)
[08:21] <elssha> hi, does 10.04 support touchscreens (tablet laptop touch function) or did that get introduced in 10.10?
[08:21] <anonwifiissues> scriptwarlock, wifi speed of router / network or that I get when I download a file?
[08:21] <lenzoid> the value "Cycle windows" in /apps/metacity/global_keycommands was set to <Alt>Escape or so, which didn't work either
[08:22] <ectospasm> shottech1: you have nvidia?
[08:22] <shottech1> ectospasm yes
[08:22] <ectospasm> shottech1: use nvidia-settings, set up TwinView
[08:22] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, are you downloading a file from your network?
[08:22] <ankit_> anyone having success here installing call of duty 4?
[08:22] <shottech1> ectospasm but I thought TwinView will have both screens doing the same thing?
[08:23] <Kartagis> does git use ssh at all?
[08:23] <ectospasm> shottech1: no, not here
[08:23]  * elssha just got a dell duo tablet netbook; need to know if ubuntu 10.04 will have touchscreen function
[08:23] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, are you using a browser for downloading something from a site somewhere?
[08:23] <szal> elssha: boot live USB and try it out
[08:24] <anonwifiissues> scriptwarlock, When I download files via firefox / the ubuntu software center, the speed is between 10kb - 20kb a second. I'm downloading from the wireless network of mine. My iPad / other computer has a download speed of 1mb+/-
[08:24] <shottech1> ectospasm thank you once again...
[08:24] <shottech1> ectospasm it worked
[08:25] <lenzoid> Kartagis: of course git can use ssh. why?
[08:25] <shottech1> ectospasm kind silly.... on Mandriva I needed to have Xinerama and Separate X screens
[08:25] <shottech1> ectospasm so Ive been going knuts trying to the same here :)
[08:26] <asdjaputra> !enter | shottech1
[08:26] <Kartagis> lenzoid: our netadmin says IDS blocks my ssh sessions, I have just used git and my connection was gone. that's why I wondered
[08:27] <ectospasm> shottech1: you can always choose Separate X screen (when you hit the "Configure..." button in "X Server Display Configuration")
[08:27] <Kartagis> lenzoid: he says the version of ssh has a security vulnerability so IDs blocks its signature
[08:28] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, try downloading some files using the wget command in the terminal and see the diffrence between browser downloads and terminal
[08:28] <shottech1> ectospasm I know... this whole time I was trying to use Separate X but it was not working
[08:28] <anonwifiissues> scriptwarlock, Ok, I'm unsure how to do that, but I'll see if I can.
[08:29] <asdjaputra> anonissimus, wget '<link to file>'
[08:29] <lenzoid> Kartagis: did you clone from a repository? usually, most web githubs etc also provide you with a http pull method. and there's also the git:// protocol
[08:29] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, for the sake of testing try this one
[08:29] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64
[08:30] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, see how fast is your downloading speed using the terminal
[08:30] <anonwifiissues> 24.1k/s
[08:30] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, and now go to that site using firefox and download it
[08:31] <anonwifiissues> Downloading from firefox is 13 - 15kbs a second.
[08:31] <lenzoid> Kartagis: what's IDS btw?
[08:31] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, therefore?
[08:31] <elssha> anyone here by chance have a dell duo?
[08:31] <anonwifiissues> scriptwarlock, therefore my wifi driver is messed up still. Ergo I need help?
[08:32] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, so wget is much faster to download compare to firefox?
[08:32] <anonwifiissues> scriptwarlock, thank you for that tip, but I'd be more thankful for help to get from 10kb - 20kb speeds all the way up to my normal 900kb speeds.
[08:33] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, try to use some ff extensions they call downthemall see it can help you
[08:33] <anonwifiissues> scriptwarlock, I'd rather not, I'd rather have normal wifi fix. I've seen others having issues like I have had.
[08:34] <ectospasm> anonwifiissues: I suppose what scriptwarlock was trying to determine is whether it's a software issue (in FF and not in wget), or something more low level.
[08:35] <anonwifiissues> ectospasm, It'd have to be an issue with something more. Firefox is slow, wget is slow. It should be 400 times faster.
[08:35] <arooni-mobile> hi folks; 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 12.0445 s, 89.1 MB/s ... write benchmark;; and read speed:  Timing buffered disk reads: 270 MB in  3.00 seconds =  89.90 MB/sec .... is that pretty decent overall?
[08:36] <ectospasm> arooni-mobile: that depends
[08:36] <popey> arooni-mobile: is that a spinning disk, not SSD?
[08:36] <ectospasm> arooni-mobile: ...compared to what?
[08:37] <arooni-mobile> popey, spinning disk
[08:37] <arooni-mobile> ectospasm, compared to ssd i suppose?  its a 500gb 7200 rpm drive on ubuntu 11.04 with ext4
[08:37] <Kartagis> lenzoid: Intruder Detection System
[08:37] <popey> arooni-mobile: yeah, I get 175MB/s on my SSD
[08:37] <popey> for buffered reads
[08:37] <arooni-mobile> popey, wow
[08:37] <shottech1> so Im inside Disk Utility and it says my second hard drive with windows is mounted, but I cant find it anywhere
[08:38] <shottech1> any thoughts?
[08:38] <ectospasm> shottech1: it doesn't tell you the mount point?
[08:38] <Kartagis> lenzoid: I was pushing my code
[08:38] <ectospasm> shottech1: drop to a shell and type "mount" with no arguments
[08:38] <shottech1> it does and its not in there
[08:38] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, this is atheros issue maybe you can pick somthing from here http://askubuntu.com/questions/37409/why-is-my-internet-so-slow-with-an-atheros-wireless-card
[08:39] <arooni-mobile> popey, so roughly double the speed on a ssd as reg disk
[08:39] <anonwifiissues> scriptwarlock, I will have a look. Thanks.
[08:39] <popey> arooni-mobile: looks that way, some cheap ssd's are about the same speed as your spinnnig disk though
[08:39] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, but i doubt wifi can give you 900x faster than 54kbps
[08:40] <popey> arooni-mobile: and some mobile chipsets are limited to 150Mb/s (Mega Bit) i.e. SATA I rather than 300Mb/s SATA II
[08:40] <anonwifiissues> I usually have download speeds of 900kbs from sites.
[08:40] <anonwifiissues> not 20kbs. or 10kbs.
[08:40] <sammmy> Where should I install my applications?
[08:40]  * sammmy is new to the big U
[08:41] <ectospasm> sammmy: use apt to install packages
[08:41] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, ah ok
[08:41] <ectospasm> ...or, if you have a .deb, use dpkg
[08:41] <sammmy> ectospasm: I'm installing adobe reader
[08:41] <shottech1> ectospasm http://pastbin.com/ARYaBKMK
[08:42] <ectospasm> sammmy: why?  evince comes preinstalled, IIRC
[08:42] <arooni-mobile> popey, yeah i was just curious about the premium id pay to get X boost in speed.  i cant really afford the $1500 price tag for a 512GB SSD :)
[08:42] <shottech1> ectospasm take a look at this and tell me if im going crayz
[08:42] <popey> arooni-mobile: mine are only 120GB
[08:42] <sammmy> ectospasmn: wanted to see if it came with Myriad Pro
[08:43] <ectospasm> shottech1: that link is borken
[08:43] <sammmy> So where should I specify to install the application, the terminal is asking me. :P
[08:44] <sammmy> Where are all applications installed on ubuntu?
[08:44] <popey> sammmy: what application?
[08:44] <ectospasm> shottech1: it's not mounted
[08:44] <ectospasm> shottech1: unless you check mtab
[08:44] <szal> sammmy: it does, but it's hardly useable w/o modification since kerning for OTF fonts doesn't work (yet) in Linux
[08:44] <sammmy> popey: adobe reader, but does it matter?
[08:45] <j-r> clear
[08:45] <j-r> hi
[08:45] <popey> sammmy: yeah, it does, most apps dont ask you this
[08:45] <anonwifiissues> scriptwarlock, My speed is now 99kbs - 135kbs thanks to that one command of the link you provided.
[08:45] <asdjaputra> my internet connection maximum speed is around 30-40kbps, and you guys are still complaining?
[08:45] <shottech1> ectospasm here is the right link  http://pastbin.com/ARYaBKMK
[08:45] <asdjaputra> heh
[08:45] <ectospasm> sammmy: most user apps go in /usr/bin/  but that's only for the executables.
[08:45] <popey> sammmy: but if you got an app from a website like adobe.com rather than software centre, then yeah, I'd expect this
[08:45] <asdjaputra> sammmy, /opt
[08:45] <ectospasm> shottech1: no, that's wrong, AGAIN!  it's past*e*bin, not pastbin
[08:46] <shottech1> ectospasm sorry here you go http://pastebin.com/ARYaBKMK
[08:46] <asdjaputra> ectospasm, patience, lol
[08:46] <sammmy> popey: I'm running a .bin file in the terminal
[08:46] <littlebearz> lol
[08:46] <popey> sammmy: why are you installing adobe reader?
[08:46] <popey> sammmy: Ubuntu comes with a built in pdf reader
[08:46] <asdjaputra> evince
[08:46] <sammmy> szal: what file types does linux kern?
[08:46] <asdjaputra> sammmy, copy the source folder to /opt
[08:47] <sammmy> popey: I just wanted the Myriad Pro font. :P
[08:47] <j-r> i want to install a server ssh on my ubuntu. this server has to be not local. First i make the host local ip static. Then it is said thaht I have to open connexion between port 22 and my previous static ip ? How can I do thaht ?
[08:47] <asdjaputra> sammmy, and ln -s the executable to /usr/bin
[08:47] <popey> sammmy: you could probably get that separately, surely?
[08:47] <szal> sammmy: ?
[08:47] <asdjaputra> sammmy, and try running it from Alt-F2
[08:47] <popey> asdjaputra: sammmy is a beginner with Ubuntu, those instructions aren't exactly comprehensive enough for him.
[08:47] <weweje> plop
[08:47] <ectospasm> shottech1: I already said it's not mounted.  The tool you're using is wrong.
[08:47] <asdjaputra> popey, k
[08:47] <asdjaputra> sammmy, open terminal, Ctrl-Alt-T
[08:48] <asdjaputra> sammmy, then you copy the folder of the source to /opt with: sudo cp -r /path/to/source/ /opt
[08:48] <scriptwarlock> anonwifiissues, ok
[08:48] <j-r> i want to install a server ssh on my ubuntu. this server has to be not local. First i make the host local ip static. Then it is said thaht I have to open connexion between port 22 and my previous static ip ? How can I do thaht ?
[08:49] <asdjaputra> sammmy, then you make a link (shortcut in Windows) of the executable to /usr/bin, where you save all your executables with: sudo ln -s /opt/path/to/source/executable.bin /usr/bin/executable
[08:49] <llutz_> j-r: ssh user@host          from your client, host is the hostname/ip-addr of the machine, sshd running on
[08:50] <asdjaputra> sammmy, when you are prompted for password, enter them, and if all the commands succeeded without further prompts you are ready to run executable by Alt-F2, type in executable
[08:50] <llutz_> j-r: if username on both machines is the same, just "ssh host"
[08:50] <asdjaputra> sammmy, remember change /path/to/source to path of the Adobe reader source
[08:50] <asdjaputra> sammmy, and change executable with adobe reader's bin file.
[08:50] <sammmy> asdjaputra: I'm sorry, I'm getting really lost. :S
[08:50] <llutz_> asdjaputra: better to use /usr/local/bin since that stuff comes not with distribution
[08:51] <j-r> llutz_: ok but i want to connect on my host when I am out of the local network (for instance my host is in London and the client is uin paris)
[08:51] <asdjaputra> llutz_, hmm yeah
[08:51] <sammmy> asdjaputra, all I have is a .bin file.
[08:51] <jiltdil> should using 64bit os also increases the speed for the browser?
[08:51] <llutz_> j-r: you need to forward port 22 in your router, pointing to the machine running sshd
[08:51] <asdjaputra> sammmy, then copy the .bin file to /usr/local/bin
[08:51] <sammmy> asdjaputra, ln -s the executable, what executable?
[08:51] <sammmy> .bin is known as an executable?
[08:52] <j-r> llutz_: How can I do that ?
[08:52] <szal> what's this talk abount linking files about anyway?
[08:52] <asdjaputra> sammmy, yes, it's an executable file
[08:52] <llutz_> j-r: read your routers manual
[08:52] <ectospasm> sammmy: not always
[08:52] <asdjaputra> szal, installing adobe reader
[08:52] <szal> asdjaputra: you don't need to link anything for that
[08:52] <wildbat> hmm, anyone installed lxde / lubuntu have idea why "ALT+f2 or W+R " work only once ?
[08:52] <asdjaputra> szal, at first i thought he has the source folder
[08:52] <llutz_> j-r: forward external port 22 -> ip-of-the-sshd-machine port 22
[08:52] <FreeMan> thnx for help -cya soon =)
[08:53] <llutz_> j-r: or whatever external port you want to use
[08:53] <szal> asdjaputra: since when does Acroread come in source format?
[08:53] <asdjaputra> szal, just thought it was
[08:53] <asdjaputra> sammmy, anyways, why don't you just install it from Software Center
[08:53] <rockguy32> I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Remix version 10.04.2 LTS, however I wish to update to version 11. Unfortunately the update manager doesn't have the update available. Is there a way to update anyways?
[08:53] <asdjaputra> sammmy, here's how http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/04/how-to-install-adobe-reader-acroread-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[08:54] <szal> sammmy: sudo apt-get install acroread
[08:54] <szal> sammmy: way easier than installing from binary pkg
[08:54] <j-r> llutz_: i have to configure my router ? Then I have to edit a config file ?
[08:54] <llutz_> j-r: your router should have a webfontend to configure it
[08:54] <asdjaputra> szal, the software center is the easiest way to achieve it, he's new to Linux
[08:55] <llutz_> j-r: http://www.portforwarding.org might help
[08:55] <sveinse> I have a machine which does not have access to internet. Is there some tool available which can find all updates for this machine and put it on an USB storage device?
[08:55] <szal> asdjaputra: GUI software management is a general pita, no matter what the frontend
[08:55] <sammmy> So, is software center just a GUI of apt?
[08:56] <llutz_> sammmy: at least it is
[08:56] <asdjaputra> sammmy, sometimes
[08:56] <asdjaputra> sammmy, i don't really like to use it though, it hangs all the time
[08:57] <blackshirt> sses
[08:57] <asdjaputra> hahah paijo
[08:57] <asdjaputra> org jakarta?
[08:58] <szal> !id
[08:58] <asdjaputra> szal, yeah, but it's empty there
[08:58] <szal> asdjaputra: then stay there & help populate the channel :)
[08:58] <scriptwarlock> wildbat, what does lubuntu channel's reply to your concern?
[08:59] <asdjaputra> szal, ok, but how do you know its indonesian?
[08:59] <szal> asdjaputra: well, "Jakarta" is a good clue :P
[08:59] <wildbat> scriptwarlock: bearly anyone alive there XD
[08:59] <asdjaputra> szal, lol yeah
[08:59] <sammmy> What kind of font file types does ubuntu support?
[08:59] <Totem-Schalter> j-r:http://portforward.com/
[08:59] <llutz_> sveinse: iirc synaptics can create such a list to be transfered to a different pc with inet-access
[08:59] <j-r> Totem-Schalter, ok
[08:59] <szal> sammmy: pretty much anything except Windows bitmaps (.fon)
[08:59] <llutz_> sveinse: synaptic sry
[09:00] <rockguy32> Am I stuck with this version or is there a way to update to version 11? I am aware that the Netbook remix was merged into the normal version as of version 11, but I can't seem to find a way to switch over.
[09:00] <szal> rockguy32: define 'this version'
[09:01] <rockguy32> I am running Ubuntu Netbook Remix version 10.04.2 LTS.
[09:02] <rockguy32> I changed the update manager to include normal updates, but it still doesn't show version 11's update.
[09:02] <Blue1> rockguy32: that worked for you?
[09:02] <szal> rockguy32: 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04
[09:02] <Blue1> rockguy32: do a fresh install of 10.04 or 10.10
[09:03] <Blue1> update like that - not recommended
[09:03] <szal> rockguy32: if you only want more recent applications, you'll want -backports or a PPA for whatever you want
[09:03] <histo> Blue1: you can upgrade from lts to lts
[09:03] <rockguy32> So there's no way to update without a fresh install?
[09:03] <Blue1> histo: i have not had good luck along that path -- I always do a fresh install - YMMV applies.
[09:04] <Blue1> rockguy32: you will have less problems with a fresh install.
[09:04] <sveinse> My Network Manager has lost control over eth0. It sais its not managed. How can I give the if back to nm?
[09:04] <Blue1> rockguy32: I would backup /home/ and /etc/ then do a fresh install.
[09:05] <rockguy32> I will actually have more problems because getting this to work in the first place was a pain, mostly because of this computer's lack of any kind of disk drive.
[09:05] <Blue1> rockguy32: how much space do you have?
[09:05] <rockguy32> On the hard drive?
[09:05] <shottech1> ectospasm you still there?
[09:05] <Blue1> rockguy32: yes and please use tab completion
[09:06] <scriptwarlock> rockguy32, fresh install only takes less than an hour
[09:06] <rockguy32> Tab completion?
[09:06] <Blue1> oy vey
[09:06] <Gentoon> Hello
[09:07] <Blue1> rockguy32: it is polite to address your comments to a person rather then the whole group.  type in the first few characters of the person you want to reply to, then hit tab to complete the name, then enter your text
[09:07] <odix> since my computers dotn really allow a lot of outbound, is it possible to update with apt-get, and deploy over a lan to specific lan ips
[09:07] <zvacet> !who | rockguy32
[09:07] <Blue1> thanks
[09:07] <shottech1> guys Im trying to mount my windowns sata driver - here is what I did "sudo mount sda1 /media"
[09:07] <shottech1> but its still not working
[09:08] <rockguy32> ubottu: Well I figured if it was replied to before anything else was said it would be ok.
[09:08] <histo> shottech1: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/somedir
[09:08] <histo> shottech1: make sure you create somedir
[09:08] <Blue1> shottech1: nope that wont work
[09:08] <histo> shottech1: so sudo mkdir /media/somedir && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/somedir
[09:08] <shottech1> here is what the mount looks like http://pastebin.com/ARYaBKMK
[09:09] <histo> shottech1: /dev/sda1 is already mounted to /
[09:09] <odix> anybody?
[09:09] <histo> shottech1: /dev/sdb1 is mounted to /media/b3d*****
[09:09] <odix> well this is the weird part, i can access my computers from the outside world
[09:09] <odix> but when i try apt-get update or ping yahoo.com i get nothing
[09:09] <histo> odix: yeah you can have your own repo
[09:09] <odix> is there a way to deploy updates since they are all the same box over a lan
[09:09] <asdjaputra> odix, then the problem is maybe at your router
[09:10] <odix> thats what im thinking to, safer to deploy to all over lan anyway tho
[09:10] <odix> anybody have a good link on how to accomplish this ?
[09:10] <rockguy32> scriptwarlock: For me it took about 4 hours after all the work it takes to get it to work with this blasted laptop. For some reason it just hates trying to boot from anything that isn't a hard drive.
[09:10] <histo> odix: i'm trying to figure out the bot trigger hold up
[09:10] <zvacet> !aptoncd | odix
[09:10] <odix> !offline
[09:10] <shottech1> histo yep, but Im trying to mount sda1 not sdb1 (I have 2 hard drives)
[09:10] <histo> odix: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[09:10] <histo> shottech1: /dev/sda1 is already mounted as /
[09:11] <odix> whats the best way to update cmd line also ?
[09:12] <odix> update-distro, update, and updatedb ?
[09:12] <histo> shottech1: and / is your root.  Are you sure you ahve the right hard drive and partition number?  perhaps try sudo fdisk -l  to get a list of all partitions
[09:12] <histo> odix: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  if you want to go to the next version you have to use do-release-upgrade
[09:12] <histo> !upgrade | odix
[09:12] <zvacet> odix: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:13] <histo> zvacet: apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade is kind of pointless
[09:13] <rockguy32> Also, what is the desktop organizer like thing that is in the Netbook remix? I know it's recently been replaced by Unity, but I'm pretty sure that's not what this is because they don't look much alike.
[09:13] <lenzoid> anyone here using that weird Unity thing?
[09:13] <zvacet> histo: it is not because of hold packages
[09:14] <scriptwarlock> rockguy32, what about ubuntu-desktop thru terminal have you tried that method?
[09:14] <odix> thanks zvacet, weird ubuntu desktop update is telling me it would require updating from non authenticated sources although its building its own repo list
[09:14] <histo> zvacet: your just runnign the dist-upgrade afterwards so it's pointless
[09:14] <histo> odix: do you have 3rd party repos in your sources.list?
[09:14] <jkup> Hello
[09:15] <rockguy32> scriptwarlock: I'm not sure what you mean.
[09:15] <scriptwarlock> rockguy32, sorry, apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop
[09:16] <jkup> what does that do?
[09:16] <odix> histo? shouldnt, its the default desktop install
[09:16] <histo> odix: are you trying to update all your packages or your distro?
[09:16] <jkup> oh, are any of you guys running unity?
[09:17] <rockguy32> scriptwarlock: It came back "install: missing destination file operand after `ubuntu-dekstop'
[09:17] <rockguy32> Try `install --help' for more information."
[09:17] <zvacet> !ask | jkup
[09:17] <scriptwarlock> rockguy32, isn't that desktop instead of dekstop
[09:18] <rockguy32> scriptwarlock: I used copy/paste so the blame isn't on me then.
[09:18] <scriptwarlock> rockguy32, typo sorry
[09:19] <jkup> Who here knows bash?
[09:19] <lenzoid> jkup: there's a #bash channel
[09:19] <jkup> oh thanks, my bad first time on this server
[09:20] <rockguy32> scriptwarlock: NP. It seems to be working.\
[09:21] <histo> jkup: just ask
[09:21] <histo> jkup: your question and find out
[09:22] <rockguy32> scriptwarlock: Ok that did the trick! Thank you.
[09:23] <scriptwarlock> rockguy32, k no problem
[09:23] <alnr> is there a dns util ie dig or nslookup that doesnt depend on bind package being installed?
[09:24] <sammmy> Does Unity have an expose-like feature?
[09:25] <tensorpudding> sammmy: win+w
[09:25] <test__> hi, newbie here needing problem solving..., anyone?
[09:26] <Simeon> whats your problem?
[09:26] <test__> could not really log in with my first original account
[09:27] <test__> always got back to the login screen
[09:27] <odix> anyone run 64 bit ubuntu
[09:27] <test__> tried some suggestions out of the ubuntuforum, none really works
[09:29] <scriptwarlock> test__, forgot your password?
[09:30] <sammmy> tensorpudding: cool. For a sec I though that maybe Unity didn't have one.
[09:30] <gasim> hello
[09:30] <gasim> i have a question
[09:30] <gasim> ?
[09:30] <gasim> i have a boot partition that I made
[09:30] <test__> nope, after the sucessful login, come a black screen (prob. just a second, but it looks like a logout one) and the back again;
[09:30] <sammmy> Is there a way to make this expose feature activate when you move your mouse to an edge of a screen?
[09:30] <gasim> \/boot
[09:31] <gasim> now i want to install grub in it
[09:31] <gasim> is there any way i can install grub in /boot/grub
[09:31] <gasim> not in /boot/boot/grub
[09:31] <test__> like i'm being automatically logged out immediately or can't connect to x
[09:31] <odix> why does the 64 bit name have amd in it? it can run on intel no ?
[09:31] <gasim> if yes how?
[09:31] <odix> i5?
[09:31] <lafon> gasim: condense your posts please
[09:32] <gasim> odix: its just a naming. i have it on my i7
[09:32] <gasim> sorry
[09:32] <ragnar0k> odix: amd developed the 64 bit architecture on x86
[09:33] <gasim> can anyone help me with that issue?
[09:34] <Totem-Schalter> anyone use proftpd?
[09:34] <odix> ok..
[09:34] <odix> thans
[09:34] <AdvoWork> how would i get the line that a certain string was mentioned on in a certain log file?
[09:34] <ragnar0k> word
[09:35] <ragnar0k> totem: what about proftpd?
[09:35] <Totem-Schalter> just wanna know if anyone knows the command to start and stop it
[09:36] <ragnar0k> service proftpd stop
[09:36] <ragnar0k> or start, restart or reload
[09:36] <Totem-Schalter> cool let me try that ..
[09:38] <ragnar0k> any luck?
[09:38] <Totem-Schalter> ragnar0k: your the bomb .. i googled that and could not find anypage to just say what u did
[09:39] <Totem-Schalter> but now my server has started thanks
[09:39] <ragnar0k> np man, glad to help
[09:40] <alkisg> Can I create a RAID 1 array with 2 disks, and install Ubuntu in them, using the desktop CD?
[09:40] <hexacode> any way to look up a listof programs using the mot memory?
[09:40] <hexacode> most*
[09:41] <llutz_> hexacode: htop F6 sort by MEM%
[09:41] <ragnar0k> alkisg: you should be able to, just do manual partitioning and when you create the partitions on each disk flag them for use as RAID
[09:41] <alkisg> ragnar0k: thanks, trying...
[09:41] <test__> hi... help anyone
[09:41] <tarelerulz> Have any of you ever ran itunes in wine ?
[09:41] <ragnar0k> you might need to create a small mirrored /boot array in the beginning of each drive first, though. only like ~200MB
[09:42] <Simeon> hi al. Is anyone else having pronblems with the latest firefox update?
[09:43] <baremetal> has anyone here used mondorescue in 2011?  how does it fare compared to clonezilla? I intend to perform an online (live) cloning which I believe it is not possible with clonezilla
[09:44] <ragnar0k> never used mondorescue but I'm pretty sure clonezilla won't work with live volumes in either the pxe or live disk
[09:45] <wasanzy> hi all
[09:45] <wasanzy> what application do I hv to install on my ubuntu to extract rar files?
[09:46] <Kartagis> is there any apparent reason an IDS blocks ssh version 5.8p1?
[09:46] <Kartagis> wasanzy: rar
[09:47] <wasanzy> thx
[09:48] <Collin2> can someone help me?
[09:48] <llutz_> Kartagis: ask the one configuring your IDS
[09:48] <Thalius> j #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <Collin2> i have wired network setup with a linksys router
[09:48] <Collin2> and a ipv6 modem
[09:48] <Collin2> internet is working fine on my windows machine
[09:49] <Collin2> v6 and 6to4
[09:49] <Collin2> but the ubuntu machine isnt connecting
[09:49] <Collin2> ive tried rebooting all the network devices in the proper order
[09:49] <Collin2> but its still not working
[09:49] <Collin2> what should I do
[09:49] <ragnar0k> what's the ipconfig output
[09:49] <ragnar0k> *ifconfig
[09:49] <Collin2> on my windows machine?
[09:49] <Collin2> oh sec
[09:50] <Collin2> ill have to screenshot
[09:50] <Collin2> then save to pen drive
[09:50] <susundberg> Maybe your modem is not giving out more than one IP?
[09:50] <Collin2> how do i check
[09:50] <Clerisy> how come my iphone doesnt mount into linux when I connect it so that I can move files onto it?
[09:50] <susundberg> (i guess you can also just type here what it says here for IP and netmask and router)
[09:50] <Collin2> 192.168.1.1 isnt loading
[09:51] <susundberg> Shut down windows machine and reboot linux might be the solution if the problem is with the model giving out only one IP
[09:51] <susundberg> but that is just an guess
[09:52] <susundberg> i mean if modem is ment to share connection for multiple machines it usually haves many LAN-connectors, but this is jsut guessing
[09:52] <Collin2> it has 4 lan connectors
[09:52] <Collin2> the modem is in slot 1
[09:52] <Collin2> windows in slot 2
[09:52] <Collin2> ubuntu in slot 3
[09:52] <bhavesh> I am trying to install Java ME SDK on my ubuntu, it is a .sh file. On installation it gives me "No suitable Java interpreter was detected" for which I found a solution on this page: http://unspecified.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/developing-java-me-apps-on-ubuntu/
[09:52] <Clerisy> does anybody know why iphone isnt mounting?
[09:52] <bhavesh> but it says I have to do which jar and then stat usr/bin/jar and find one
[09:53] <bhavesh> it says "until you find the real location" what is real location?
[09:54] <Collin2> susundberg: why would it only give out 1 address?
[09:54] <haoyuan> 谁在啊
[09:54] <bhavesh> chinese?
[09:54] <haoyuan> yes
[09:54] <odix> whats the linux equivalent to format
[09:54] <odix> to format a usb drive
[09:54] <llutz_> odix: mkfs
[09:55] <susundberg> Collin2: is your windows using dhcp or not?
[09:55] <susundberg> Collin2: Is the modem running dhcp-server or are the IP's fixed for the whole network?
[09:55] <Collin2> its running a dhcp server
[09:56] <pksadiq> bhavesh: what does you get when you do which jar ?
[09:56] <odix> thanks llutz
[09:56] <bhavesh> pksadiq: /usr/bin/jar
[09:56] <odix> whats the best way to set permissions for /var/www
[09:56] <Collin2> susundberg: the router is running a dhcp server
[09:57] <odix> letting unique local users overwrite its contents without setting them to admin group
[09:57] <pksadiq> bhavesh: do   file /usr/bin/jar         and it will show the real path I think
[09:57] <odix> or chown /var/www to root ? i think thats bad for security
[09:57] <susundberg> Collin2: and the linux machine does not get an ip, but window machine does?
[09:57] <mi_mehdi2010> hi
[09:57] <Collin2> yea
[09:57] <Collin2> does my router putting out ipv6 have anything to do with it?
[09:57] <bhavesh> pksadiq: it shows /usr/bin/jar: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/jar'
[09:57] <susundberg> Collin2: you can always try to set the linux machine manually proper settings and then try if the connection works
[09:58] <susundberg> Collin2: that might be the case yes
[09:58] <susundberg> Collin2: You could also try to swap windows-lan to ubuntu machine and check if that works to eliminate change of physical problem
[09:58] <pksadiq> bhavesh: again do file /etc/alternatives/jar        and so on, and you will end up with something like ELF 32-bit LSB executable, x86,  and give that path
[09:59] <bhavesh> ok
[09:59] <Collin2> mk
[10:00] <Collin2> ill try that
[10:00] <Collin2> brb
[10:00] <lng> hi! can someone help me to get WIFI working? I never used it before... Authentication is disabled on the router, but I cannot connect the laptop
[10:00] <trovatore> nick
[10:01] <bhavesh> pksadiq: after doing file /usr/bin/gjar-4.5 it showed me "/usr/bin/gjar-4.5: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped"
[10:01] <teetasse> lng: there is a good tutorial on ubuntu how to troubels shoot step by step
[10:01] <bhavesh> pksadiq: but putting /usr/bin/gjar-4.5 in it doesn't work
[10:02] <bhavesh> it still shows : Enter a path to a Java 2 SDK (For example: /user/jdk1.5/bin). You can type "exit" to cancel installation.
[10:02] <lng> teetasse: this one? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[10:04] <sammmy> Why is it that when I installed gnome 3, the theme doesn't look the same as what I've seen demoed in fedora 15?
[10:04] <pksadiq> bhavesh: It is to be the path, but not the executable, anyway the path might not /usr/bin, try        locate jdk1.5
[10:05] <bhavesh> pksadiq: it just doesnt show anything
[10:06] <teetasse> lng: yes
[10:06] <teetasse> lng: did you go thorugh it?
[10:06] <bhavesh> pksadiq: http://i.imgur.com/8hvaP.png
[10:07] <mi_mehdi2010> hi
[10:07] <lng> teetasse: going
[10:08] <dell> I have a directory called foo and i want to copy all its contents to another directory but not the directory itself how to do that?
[10:08] <fairuz> cp foo/* newdir/  <-- like that?
[10:09] <odix> how do i list usb drives in cmd line /
[10:09] <odix> df, fdsisk -l not working
[10:09] <MagePsycho> guys one quick question.. i want to search files (ignoring .svn files) with content "top.links"
[10:09] <MagePsycho> any idea
[10:09] <wildbat> odix: then it is not mounted.
[10:10] <bhavesh> I guess my jdk1.5 would be last directory
[10:10] <odix> its mounted as /sdb
[10:10] <odix> unetbootin picks it up
[10:12] <pksadiq> bhavesh: sorry, I was disconnected, my phone was fallen down
[10:12] <bhavesh> pksadiq: http://i.imgur.com/8hvaP.png
[10:13] <bhavesh> pksadiq: btw is your phone ok?
[10:13] <bhavesh> so this means jdk1.5 is my last directory?
[10:13] <bhavesh> there is nothing inside it
[10:14] <wildbat> fgrep -r --exclude='*.svn' 'top.link'  /your/dir
[10:15] <omega_123> can anyone tell how to resize launcher icons?
[10:15] <asdjaputra> omega_123, in panel or on desktop?
[10:15] <webczat> Hey, how do you make python-gobject go for python3?
[10:15] <omega_123> in panel
[10:15] <JoshuaL> I want Ubuntu to remember my window positions, how can I achieve this? I also switch between my laptop screen and an external monitor
[10:15] <asdjaputra> omega_123, gnome2?
[10:15] <pksadiq> bhavesh: have you installed jdk actually? install default-jdk if not
[10:15] <JoshuaL> now i always have to reposition them
[10:16] <omega_123> unity
[10:16] <bhavesh> pksadiq: I have sun java jdk installed
[10:16] <pksadiq> bhavesh: and so do  sudo updatedb   and locate jdk | grep bin
[10:17] <lapion> JoshuaL, you have to disable compi and go back to the old desktop
[10:17] <lapion> *compiz
[10:17] <wildbat> odix, you mean wanna list as ls?
[10:17] <JoshuaL> lapion, so it only works with ubuntu classic? why doesnt it work with unity?
[10:19] <PythonSnake> hi
[10:20] <PythonSnake> I'm switching to ubuntu from windows 7 today for python programming
[10:20] <lapion> JoshuaL, no ubuntu classic also uses compiz in natty
[10:20] <PythonSnake> I wanna ask if live usb kill performance
[10:20] <PythonSnake> Anyone can answer me please ? :)
[10:21] <pksadiq> !ask | PythonSnake
[10:21] <wildbat> PythonSnake: performance of what????
[10:21] <metbsd> is there gnome-shell in ubuntu
[10:22] <PythonSnake> wildbat: the speed
[10:22] <jpds> metbsd: Yes.
[10:22] <asdjaputra> metbsd, logout, login again but this time pick Ubuntu Classic Session at the bottom of the screen
[10:22] <bhavesh> pksadiq: thank you :)
[10:23] <pksadiq> bhavesh: why? got right?
[10:23] <Isilion> i i created a VPN connection, but i dont find the place were select which connection attempt to connect. im used to gnome and dont found the equivalent to "connection-manager".
[10:23] <bhavesh> pksadiq: hope so, im downloading default-jdk
[10:23] <Isilion> hi i created a VPN connection, but i dont find the place were select which connection attempt to connect. im used to gnome and dont found the equivalent to "connection-manager".
[10:23] <wildbat> PythonSnake: speed as graphic, CPU, disk , network ??? XD  and i don't think so except disk ~ USB 2.0 ~ you know ~
[10:23] <movan2011> PythonSnake:  If you're talking about disk-transfer speed then usually most definitely.  I can't see how else it affects performance outside of not being the latest versions of the kernel, software and drivers.
[10:24] <PythonSnake> does ubuntu slow down on live usb ? <--- my question :)
[10:24] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, yes
[10:24] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, somewhat
[10:24] <PythonSnake> erf
[10:24] <teetasse> PythonSnake: yes
[10:24] <ikonia> PythonSnake: yes as the OS is run in ram and parsed from a slow USB media
[10:25] <lapion> PythonSnake, due to write read lagging the system sometimes can be very slow..
[10:25] <movan2011> PythonSnake:  I was going to say what ikonia said.
[10:25] <PythonSnake> I 'll use an external hdd
[10:25] <bhavesh> pksadiq: I am doing all this because Netbeans lags and sometimes stops working
[10:25] <asdjaputra> 8 people answering 1 simple question
[10:25] <bhavesh> pksadiq: so im installing Java ME SDK 2.5 (no 3.0 for linux :( )
[10:25] <Isilion> hi i created a VPN connection, but i dont find the place were select which connection attempt to connect. im used to gnome and dont found the equivalent to "connection-manager".
[10:25] <movan2011> asdjaputra:  Service with a smile.
[10:25] <teetasse> PythonSnake: it will be slow too... there are distros made for being used from an external deivce... vectorlinux, puppy linux, knoppix
[10:25] <Isilion> hi i created a VPN connection, but i dont find the place were select which connection attempt to connect. im used to gnome and dont found the equivalent to "connection-manager". (KDE)
[10:25] <asdjaputra> movan2011, :) there
[10:26] <teetasse> PythonSnake: so if ubuntu is not a must, use one of these distros that a spceialized in running from external hdds or usb stick
[10:26] <PythonSnake> teetasse: What's the best or most popular of these ?
[10:26] <lapion> PythonSnake, I have used many systems installed on a usb stick, and all but the highest speed sticks are usable
[10:27] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, if you would like to make a live USB i recommend you to use Kingston DT, it's fast and recognizable at boot
[10:27] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, knoppix, slitaz, puppy
[10:27] <teetasse> PythonSnake: i would recommend you knoppix if you are new to linux and stuff... if you want something fast and effcitve use puppy linux ... i never tried other live OS
[10:27] <lapion> PythonSnake, and even then the write hardware-waits will kill your performance..
[10:28] <PythonSnake> is puppy linux worse than ubuntu ?
[10:28] <teetasse> PythonSnake: knoppix is a good bit slower tha puppy.... puppy is really frickin fast!!! but it is not as userfriendly as knoppix...
[10:28] <faceface> hi
[10:28] <lapion> PythonSnake, of course unless you run the whole system from ram
[10:28] <ikonia> PythonSnake: thats your personal opinion and you need to make your mind up on that for your self
[10:28] <Isilion> my god
[10:28] <Isilion> hi i created a VPN connection, but i dont find the place were select which connection attempt to connect. im used to gnome and dont found the equivalent to "connection-manager". (KDE)
[10:28] <faceface> how do I restart network manager?
[10:28] <faceface> I triedd "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[10:29] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, puppy is damn fast and its useful if you're planning to only use it to code python
[10:29] <faceface> but the applet doesn't appear in my sys tray
[10:29] <lapion> PythonSnake, slax has copy to ram as a default, however if you want a full development system you will need a lot of memory..
[10:29] <MagePsycho> guys one quick question.. i want to search files (ignoring .svn files) with content "top.links"
[10:29] <faceface> I installed the vpn component, tried to fire up vpn, and it disapeared
[10:29] <wildbat> faceface:  killall nm-applet ; nmapplet &
[10:29] <asdjaputra> MagePsycho, wildbat answered that already
[10:30] <Akkar1n> When i want to restart or shutdown via the gnome panel it always sends me back to the gdm. does anyone know how to fix that error?
[10:30] <wildbat> MagePsycho:    fgrep -r --exclude='*.svn' 'top.link'  /your/dir
[10:30] <MagePsycho> sorry need to check
[10:30] <PythonSnake> asdjaputra: can I dev with java on Puppy linux ?
[10:30] <asdjaputra> MagePsycho, fgrep -r --exclude='*.svn' 'top.link'  /your/dir
[10:30] <Isilion> where is the KDE connection manager???
[10:30] <teetasse> PythonSnake: yes
[10:30] <faceface> wildbat: nm-applet is running ...
[10:30] <MagePsycho> fgrep -r --exclude='*.svn' 'top.link'  /your/dir
[10:30] <faceface> no icon in the status thingy
[10:30] <lapion> PythonSnake, using live systems is not safe as a development system, you have to remember to save your stuffs each time, and if you have a system crash you could lose everything
[10:30] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, if you know how to use the package manager to install openjdk, yes
[10:31] <qin> faceface: gnome-panel --replace
[10:31] <PythonSnake> what is development system ?
[10:31] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, why don't you install a full system
[10:31] <teetasse> PythonSnake: just to get things straigt... why do you need a live system?
[10:31] <faceface> after installing vpn, the pkg did "Restarting network connection manager NetworkManager"
[10:31] <faceface> how do I do that?
[10:31] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, system to develop things on
[10:31] <PythonSnake> I run out of space
[10:31] <PythonSnake> lol
[10:31] <faceface> qin: looks nasty...
[10:31] <lapion> PythonSnake, you want to develop in python with the live system don't you ?
[10:31] <Isilion> WHERE IS CONNECTION MANAGER IN KDE???
[10:31] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, search for minimal system
[10:31] <PythonSnake> what are names of development system ?
[10:31] <PythonSnake> o.o
[10:32] <asdjaputra> Isilion, easy there
[10:32] <PythonSnake> lapion: yes
[10:32] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, everything when you use it correctly
[10:32] <faceface> Unknown option --replace
[10:32] <Isilion> asdjaputra: WHERE?
[10:32] <asdjaputra> Isilion, idk
[10:32] <teetasse> PythonSnake: why don't you use your external hard disk as additional space... no need to run an OS from it
[10:32] <x29a_> hi there, im using 10.04.2, and an usb single touch touchscreen, am i supposed to use the evdev or the evtouch driver? whats the diff and how to tell?
[10:32] <qin> faceface: Is it unity?
[10:32] <PythonSnake> What is the best os for developing python ?
[10:32] <lapion> PythonSnake, so the system (computer)you are developping on is a development system.
[10:32] <Isilion> asdjaputra: i configured a VPN but dont see where to select between connecto to adsl or vpn
[10:32] <faceface> qin: no, its heron
[10:32] <asdjaputra> Isilion, NetworkManager
[10:33] <asdjaputra> Isilion, at the notification area
[10:33] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, everything
[10:33] <dbugger> Hey guys. i have an easy question. How could I have 1 single image as screensaver?
[10:33] <teetasse> PythonSnake: to be honest... this are things you can google
[10:33] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, you can choose Debian, or just Ubuntu
[10:33] <MagePsycho> didn't work
[10:33] <MagePsycho> fgrep -r --exclude='*.svn' 'top.link'  .
[10:33] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, whatever you're comfort with
[10:33] <MagePsycho> all that was shown was .svn file
[10:34] <asdjaputra> k
[10:34] <teetasse> PythonSnake: i really hate to send you to google, but this are questions of personla preference, so you won't get a clear answer for that
[10:34] <qin> faceface: Your icon (network) missing from panel and is not hardy EOL?
[10:34] <PythonSnake> isn't ubuntu faster ?
[10:34] <pksadiq> faceface: are you saying that the network icon is missing from the panel, add it by right click on panel> add to panel>  notification  area
[10:35] <teetasse> PythonSnake: faster for what?
[10:35] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, as teetasse said, it's your personal preferences
[10:35] <Guest19730> is there a way to find a the image of a systray icon of a specific porgram without having to search through tons of folders? i want to replace the xchat icon with a mono-coloured one..
[10:35] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, but hey, you're asking in #ubuntu what did you expect?
[10:35] <qin> PythonSnake: Yeah, sure.
[10:35] <PythonSnake> lol
[10:35] <pksadiq> PythonSnake: I hope Ubunut is well configured for easy use of linux for Newbies
[10:35] <asdjaputra> Guest19730, it should be located at /usr/share/icons
[10:36] <pksadiq> *Ubuntu
[10:36] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, only for python right?
[10:36] <teetasse> PythonSnake: so if i understood your problem right... you have ubuntu system up and running, but you are running out of space and you want to start to develop python.... is that correct?
[10:36] <Isilion> asdjaputra: no network manager on notification area
[10:36] <lapion> PythonSnake, you could get a bigger hdd.... development will get you money, so you could invest some in advance..
[10:36] <asdjaputra> Isilion, then, add it
[10:36] <movan2011> Guest19730:  Most system stored icons use found in the /usr/share/icons folder so you could Alt+F2 and type nautilus /usr/share/icons and browse those folders.
[10:36] <Guest19730> asdja: i can't find it there - i already replaced an xchat icon there, but it didn't have an effect
[10:36] <PythonSnake> if I use full system is Ubuntu better than puppy linux ?
[10:36] <Collin2> susundberg: I upgraded my routers firmware
[10:36] <Isilion> asdjaputra: name
[10:36] <PythonSnake> asdjaputra: yes and later java c++
[10:36] <PythonSnake> and stuff
[10:36] <PythonSnake> :)
[10:36] <qin> pksadiq: Genius! Ubu-nuts!
[10:36] <Collin2> now im on internet on windows pc, and local-only on ubuntu
[10:36] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, start with Gambas
[10:36] <Collin2> :s
[10:37] <Guest19730> movan, it's certainly not there :/
[10:37] <gasim> hello
[10:37] <asdjaputra> Isilion, http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement
[10:37] <teetasse> asdjaputra: never heard of gambas...
[10:37] <PythonSnake> asdjaputra: Gambas ?
[10:37] <susundberg> Collin2: local only as you have connection to router but not to internet?
[10:37] <gasim> how to install ubuntu minimal on a harddrive
[10:37] <gasim> external harddrive
[10:38] <pksadiq> PythonSnake: no don't use GAMBAS, it is bad I think, because it's a small replica of Visual BASIC
[10:38] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, teetasse, a VB.Net like language
[10:38] <gasim> without a cd
[10:38] <asdjaputra> pksadiq, yeah but it's good for beginners
[10:38] <susundberg> gasim: as installing on any harddrive. Just select proper harddrive when the installer is asking where to install
[10:38] <Isilion> asdjaputra: ok i found it. my vpn connection doesn appear, but appears on system settings / networking
[10:38] <teetasse> PythonSnake: ok, let's say it like this: if you have very limited hardware (low hard disk space, slow cpu, little ram) go for puppy or knoppix... if you computer is a bit faster, go for ubuntu
[10:39] <pksadiq> asdjaputra: at my country The students are first taught python, better to read the hacker howto at http://catb.org
[10:39] <gasim> i can't get the installer
[10:39] <asdjaputra> teetasse, i would recommend debian better, Ubuntu's first install have too many eye-candy
[10:39] <qin> teetasse: There is lubuntu, xubutnu too
[10:39] <gasim> is there any way to do it manually
[10:39] <lapion> PythonSnake, wants to develop with python on a live system, he is not thinking straight.
[10:39] <teetasse> PythonSnake: also, you can do what i did: i have a very weak netbook... so i installed the ubuntu minimal version, and installed fluxbox instead of gnome... that gives you a lot of speed and you still have all benefits from ubuntu
[10:39] <movan2011> Guest19730:  try running nautilus, press CTRL+L and type /usr/share/icons into the location bar.  You are running ubuntu aren't you 'cause that's where all system installed icons are stored.  If you've installed icon themes they're normally in the hidden .icons folder in your user's home folder.
[10:39] <teetasse> PythonSnake: also, you can do what i did: i have a very weak netbook... so i installed the ubuntu minimal version, and installed fluxbox instead of gnome... that gives you a lot of speed and you still have all benefits from ubuntu asdjaputra
[10:40] <Collin2> susundberg: you there?
[10:40] <lapion> teetasse, he doesn't want to install he wants to develop on a live system
[10:40] <asdjaputra> teetasse, PythonSnake yeah that's a very good idea, fluxbox
[10:40]  * asdjaputra like fluxbox
[10:40] <teetasse> fluxbox is the best!!! :D
[10:40] <wildbat> "lxpanelctrl run " only worked once per session ~ anyone know y ?
[10:40]  * asdjaputra hi-5ed with teetasse 
[10:41] <teetasse> PythonSnake: is it important for you tpo have a live system?
[10:41] <PythonSnake> fluxbox ?
[10:41] <asdjaputra> for me its Fluxboxed Debian
[10:41] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[10:41] <gasim> anyone?
[10:41] <asdjaputra> Alt-F1 is for opening xterm
[10:41] <asdjaputra> and it's fastt
[10:41] <teetasse> PythonSnake: it is a user interface... like gnome, or kde... but much more minimal and faster
[10:41] <PythonSnake> teetasse: hmm, maybe no I'll try to get some space
[10:41] <Collin2> can someone help me?
[10:41] <lapion> teetasse, asdjaputra he has been talking about a live system the whole time.
[10:41] <Collin2> My windows pc is connected to the same router as my ubuntu pc
[10:41] <Collin2> and the windows has internet, but not the ubuntu
[10:42] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, if you're going to develop applications with Linux you have to get used to some minimal WMs
[10:42] <dr_Willis> window manager is fluxbox
[10:42] <lapion> PythonSnake, all you need for an install is 8 to 10 maybe 12 GiB
[10:42] <Collin2> the ubuntu is on local-only
[10:42] <teetasse> lapion: i understood that he want's a live system because he is running out of space... so either clear up the hdd or mess with live systems
[10:42] <PythonSnake> 12 GB
[10:42] <PythonSnake> O.O
[10:42] <asdjaputra> i don't recommend live systems, they sux
[10:42] <wildbat> Collin2:  can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[10:42] <asdjaputra> sorry for the language
[10:42] <Collin2> sec
[10:42]  * teetasse agrees with asdjaputra ... shomehow
[10:42] <PythonSnake> how much space ubuntu require ?
[10:43] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, 2.6 minimal
[10:43] <gasim> what is Ubuntu Minimal?
[10:43] <dr_Willis> it deends on your needs. live cds are handy tools
[10:43] <gasim> is it just a terminal
[10:43] <Collin2> wildbat: it says net destination unreachable
[10:43] <qin> !minimal | gasim
[10:43] <dr_Willis> !mini
[10:43] <gasim> with the terminal commands
[10:43] <lapion> PythonSnake, I ran ubuntu for some years on a 7.8GiB CF card configured as a hdd..
[10:43] <dr_Willis> its what you tell it to install
[10:43] <pRoV7x>  what's the best email client on Ubuntu?
[10:44] <teetasse> gasim: it will only install waht you need... but no eyecandy and stuff... until you add it yourself with apt
[10:44] <asdjaputra> dr_Willis, Backtrack live DVD *is* useful, but not Ubuntu's
[10:44] <wildbat> Collin2: tracepath 8.8.8.8
[10:44] <ikonia> pRoV7x: best is subjective, try them and see what you like
[10:44] <dr_Willis> !best
[10:44] <asdjaputra> pRoV7x, #ubuntu-bots
[10:44] <asdjaputra> pRoV7x, go there and ask BestBot, what is the best email client on Ubuntu
[10:44] <gasim> will it have just terminal
[10:44] <gasim> cz thats what i need?
[10:44] <asdjaputra> gasim, it should be
[10:44] <gasim> so its actually OS?
[10:45] <teetasse> asdjaputra: haha, played around with it when i was a evil HaX0R :P ... but youre right, backtrack has good default settings
[10:45] <dr_Willis> gasim:  is that what you need?
[10:45] <asdjaputra> gasim, yes
[10:45] <pRoV7x>  < ikonia > what's subjectives
[10:45] <gasim> yes
[10:45] <gasim> thanks
[10:45] <asdjaputra> teetasse, i was, and i still am :p
[10:45] <asdjaputra> aircrack-ng -w password.lst
[10:45] <teetasse> asdjaputra: hm, so i should start looking for a cloack for my nick :P
[10:45] <asdjaputra> pRoV7x, best thingy
[10:46] <asdjaputra> pRoV7x, go to #ubuntu-bots
[10:46] <Collin2> wildbat: collinm2.local 0.696ms asymm 106
[10:46] <pRoV7x>  I mean something like Outlook on Windows
[10:46] <PythonSnake> ubuntu minimal version+fluxbox=ubuntu ?
[10:46] <Collin2> wildbat: collinm2.local 192.168.1.1 0.696ms asymm 106*
[10:46] <dr_Willis> !email
[10:46] <gasim> if i put linux and initrd in my config
[10:46] <qin> pRoV7x: evolution, thunderbird
[10:46] <PythonSnake> ubuntu minimal version+fluxbox=ubuntu ?
[10:46] <gasim> will it work?
[10:46] <gasim> grub*
[10:46] <susundberg> Collin2, wildbat: since your windows machine is connected, i guess problem is with connection to your router. Can you ping your router Collin?
[10:47] <Collin2> not from my windows machine
[10:47] <Collin2> i cannot
[10:47] <susundberg> Collin2: If you can then that is ok, if you cannot, then the dhcp server on the modem/router is not working properly
[10:47] <susundberg> Collin2: What! windows machine had the connection working?
[10:47] <pRoV7x>  < qin > thanks
[10:47] <Collin2> yes
[10:47] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, gosh, just install ubuntu minimal version, then apt-get install fluxbox, there, you got a development environment for python, java, C++
[10:47] <susundberg> Collin2: Did you btw check the cable swappig?
[10:47] <Collin2> ye
[10:47] <lapion> PythonSnake, what is your reason for not having space to install a 5 to 6 GiB large system ? hdd media is really cheap currently..
[10:47] <Collin2> i updated modem firmware
[10:47] <susundberg> Collin2: Then why cannot you ping the router from your windows machine?
[10:48] <Collin2> i dont know
[10:48] <qin> pRoV7x: try: pro<TAB>
[10:48] <PythonSnake> asdjaputra: developing C++ is possible on linux ? o.O
[10:48] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, duh
[10:48] <Collin2> all the stuff in ipconfig is v6 addresses
[10:48] <Collin2> even the default gateway
[10:48] <susundberg> Collin2: Did cable swapping work : now ubuntu machine has connection but windows not?
[10:48] <Collin2> and i try to open it and it doent load
[10:48] <PythonSnake> lapion: cuz I'll dual boot
[10:48] <Collin2> susundberg: no it did not
[10:48] <susundberg> Collin2: what doesnt load? Open what?:)
[10:49] <dr_Willis> !compile
[10:49] <susundberg> !network
[10:49] <Collin2> the router options page
[10:49] <susundberg> From what machine?
[10:49] <Collin2> the ubuntu
[10:49] <Collin2> i cant load it on the windows one
[10:49] <lapion> PythonSnake, linux has something called a partition manager that can resize any windows partition and make some space to create a linux partition to install any distro on..
[10:49] <Collin2> but i can from the ubuntu
[10:50] <susundberg> Then that is windows problem and not ubuntu problem?
[10:50] <lapion> PythonSnake, without any loss of dat on the windows system..
[10:50] <Collin2> no no
[10:50] <susundberg> What is the problem now then?
[10:50] <PythonSnake> lapion: huh ?
[10:50] <qin> pRoV7x: Keep it in channel
[10:50] <lapion> *daTA
[10:50] <Collin2> the ubuntu machine is connecting (local only) to the router fine, and i can ping the router. The windows machine is only connected to the internet, and i cant ping the router
[10:50] <Collin2> is it possible for my modem to prevent my router from sharing the connection?
[10:51] <lapion> PythonSnake, eleaborate on huh pls
[10:51] <pRoV7x>  does evolution, thunderbird download the folders too, the ones in the email account and how
[10:51] <susundberg> Collin2: sure it is possible but it sounds weird.
[10:51] <asdjaputra> pRoV7x, ask in #thunderbird
[10:51] <susundberg> Collin2: is your gateway ok on the ubuntu machine?
[10:51] <wildbat> Collin2:  do a full reset the  router, and reconfig it ?
[10:51] <PythonSnake> lapion: like taking 5gb from D: to C: ?
[10:51] <Collin2> wildbat: i did that already, multiple times
[10:51] <teetasse> PythonSnake: yes
[10:51] <susundberg> Collin2: 'route' command on console
[10:52] <Collin2> susundberg: ye, i can
[10:52] <PythonSnake> and where is that minimal version
[10:52] <qin> Collin2: Yes, since router need to (usually) register itself with ISP, what link do you have ADSL?
[10:52] <Collin2> susundberg: on the ubuntu machine?
[10:52] <pRoV7x>  ok
[10:52] <susundberg> Collin2: yes
[10:52] <teetasse> PythonSnake: please, to make things simple... what is your currents setup? what OS do you have on your computer and what are its specifications?
[10:52] <susundberg> qin Collin2 : i guess also that this is the case -- the router needs to be NATing the connection
[10:52] <PythonSnake> teetasse: windows 7 86x
[10:52] <PythonSnake> x86*
[10:52] <PythonSnake> ultimate version
[10:52] <Collin2> the modem is connected to ISP, 1 port out going in to port 1 on router, port 2 is windows machine, port 3 is ubuntu machine
[10:53] <asdjaputra> pRoV7x, #mozilla
[10:53] <Collin2> susundberg: I have 'NAT' option enabled in the router page
[10:53] <lapion> PythonSnake, yes could be done, however it would be more like taking at least 8 GiB from C: and creating linux partition and swap partition ( both not available to windows anymore..
[10:53] <susundberg> Collin2: OK, then that should not be the problem, how about the 'route' output?
[10:53] <lapion> PythonSnake, however you do need that amount of freespace in the filesystem on C:
[10:54] <Collin2> sec
[10:54] <susundberg> and ifconfig output -- does the address look like one you should get from your router?
[10:54] <wildbat> Collin2 ~ you should have WAN port on router connected the modem not port 1
[10:54] <qin> Collin2: Does ubuntu is hook up to modem?
[10:54] <Collin2> yes qin
[10:54] <newbie01> how do I download old versions of ubuntu
[10:54] <Collin2> wildbat: the address is 192.168.1.101 for the ubuntu machine
[10:54] <Collin2> the dhcp starts at .100
[10:54] <Collin2> so the windows machine has to be .100
[10:54] <Collin2> but its not appearing in dhcp client table
[10:55] <Collin2> susundberg
[10:55] <susundberg> Collin2: so that should be fine
[10:55] <teetasse> PythonSnake: and how big is your hard disk?
[10:55] <Collin2> ill get a screenshot
[10:55] <qin> Collin2: Does it have ip consistent with windows? Same class?
[10:55] <PythonSnake> 320 GB
[10:55] <susundberg> Collin2: how about the route command!
[10:55] <susundberg> is the gateway proper?
[10:55] <Collin2> susundberg: im getting a screenshot
[10:55] <teetasse> PythonSnake: and all your partitions are full?
[10:55] <susundberg> Just copy-paste to pastebin
[10:55] <PythonSnake> yeah
[10:55] <susundberg> well whatever
[10:56] <lapion> PythonSnake, how much freespace is there in C: and do you actually have a D: partition ?
[10:56] <newbie01> how do I download older versions of ubuntu?
[10:56] <newbie01> i.e. where from
[10:56] <fatherjack> Collin2: have u tried to set dns addresses on ubuntu machine
[10:56] <wildbat> Collin2: what windows' ipconfig /all give you then ?
[10:56] <PythonSnake> lapion: 500 mb and yeah
[10:56] <Collin2> the gateway says: 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 | link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 | default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
[10:57] <lapion> PythonSnake, how much free space on D: ?
[10:57] <tarelerulz> From what I understand , Chrome has install for Windows , Linux and mac ,but it is onliine install downloading real installer to your system. I can't seem to find the standalone windows install. I keep getting to the same page and when I think I find the win standalone install it the same thing I have now and it don't work
[10:57] <Collin2> in ubuntu route command^
[10:57] <qin> newbie01: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[10:57] <Collin2> wildbat: sec
[10:57] <lapion> PythonSnake, get an external hdd and copy some of the stuff on C: to it..
[10:57] <newbie01> tkx qin
[10:57] <Collin2> wildbat: ill pastebin
[10:58] <lapion> PythonSnake, I guess this is the computer of your parents ?
[10:58] <Collin2> wildbat: http://pastebin.com/93Vqy7Gf
[10:58] <PythonSnake> lapion: no
[10:58] <wildbat> Collin2: what do the router page give you  about the WAN side ip?
[10:58] <PythonSnake> lapion: why ?
[10:59] <igel> What's the subnet mask of my machine?
[10:59] <tarelerulz> Have any of you tried Google earth plugin for Google maps ?   Is there a Linux version . I know the gmail plugin for phone calling works
[10:59] <lapion> so PythonSnake why don't you copy some of the video/audio files over to an external hdd and make some space ?
[10:59] <susundberg> Collin2: that windows machine is not on dhcp
[10:59] <teetasse> PythonSnake: because we need to know how much you can mess with it ^^
[10:59] <Collin2> wildbat: sec
[10:59] <susundberg> your router is badly configured
[10:59] <Clerisy> its not letting me change privilages of a folder? somebody halp please
[10:59] <Collin2> how do I fix it?
[10:59] <PythonSnake> lol
[10:59] <Collin2> DHCP is enabled
[10:59] <Collin2> i dont understand what else to configure
[10:59] <sammmy> Anyone ever experience this problem: there's close/minimize/maximize buttons on the *left* side of the window in chrome while using gnome and only a close button on the right?
[10:59] <sammmy> I want the buttons to be on the right.
[11:00] <susundberg> Collin2: your windows machine is not on DHCP, you can see that from the IP address , right?
[11:00] <Collin2> yes
[11:00] <Collin2> but why is the ubuntu
[11:00] <Collin2> and not the windows
[11:00] <susundberg> Collin2: The router is configured wrong, and you need to check its manual etc to get it done properly
[11:00] <Collin2> i dont understand
[11:00] <wildbat> Collin2 susundberg, you plugged the wrong port ~do the router have a WAN port ?
[11:00] <Collin2> wildbat: it has 5 ports: 1,2,3,4 and internet
[11:00] <wildbat> Collin2: coz you have the modem in port 1
[11:00] <wildbat> that y
[11:00] <PythonSnake> ubuntu - applications and stuff = minimal version ?
[11:00] <wildbat> modem on internet port
[11:01] <Collin2> when i plug it in the internet port, the internet doesnt work on either machine
[11:01] <NET||abuse> wow, updated my 11.04 install on my 3 year old EeePc 1000h, holey crap, it seems to be way faste.r
[11:01] <susundberg> Collin2: I am out of ideas, except that router might be badly configured. The modem might be running also dhcp server, giving the only proper addess to windows machine.
[11:01] <wildbat> susundberg: port 1-4 is switched ~
[11:01] <wildbat> ^Collin2 i mean
[11:01] <Collin2> ok
[11:01] <susundberg> wildbat: I got the picture that its a router machine running NAT not switch or anything
[11:02] <Collin2> susundberg: It has NAT option, which is enabled
[11:02] <susundberg> Collin2: or the ISP might be running dhcp server that is visible to windows machine, if the router is not doing NAT
[11:02] <NET||abuse> have there been big updates to unity lately, speed improvements?
[11:02] <Collin2> should i disable NAT, plug modem in WAN port, and keep DHCP enabled?
[11:02] <teetasse> PythonSnake: more or less... the thing is like this: minimal and later add what you need... or full install and then painfully remove all the stuff you dont need
[11:02] <NET||abuse> seems way more usable after that update
[11:02] <susundberg> Collin2: well i dont know, i would suspect that NAT box
[11:02] <dr_Willis> Collin2: put iy in internet port s power cycle everything
[11:02] <bullgard4> How to get rid in grub.cfg  of the menu entry "quiet splash vt.handoff=7" ? The file grub.cfg is headlined: "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE".
[11:02] <Collin2> ok ill try
[11:02] <Collin2> ill be back with good or bad news
[11:02] <Collin2> i owe you all if its good
[11:03] <Collin2> brb
[11:03] <qin> bullgard4: sudo vim /etc/default/grub
[11:03] <teetasse> PythonSnake: in the end, you can make a full ubuntu install from an minimal install and the other way round
[11:03] <lapion> PythonSnake, what is taking up so much space that you have 320 GB but only 500mb free space ?
[11:03] <teetasse> !minimal requrements
[11:03] <dr_Willis> !grub2
[11:03] <qin> bullgard4: and: sudo update-grub
[11:03] <bullgard4> qin:  The file grub.cfg is headlined: "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE".
[11:03] <PythonSnake> Can office 2010 be installed on ubuntu ?
[11:03] <qin> bullgard4: sudo vim */etc/default/grub*
[11:03] <isteve_> hey evryone i am trying to upgrad to firefox 5 using this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-next .. but i get this error
[11:03] <dr_Willis> bullgard4:  read that grub2 guide
[11:03] <isteve_> Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 gpg: requesting key CE49EC21 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com ?: keyserver.ubuntu.com: Connection refused gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7:
[11:03] <FloodBot1> isteve_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <wildbat> susundberg: he have modem to port 1 and windows port 2 just got the dhcp from modem ~ that's y
[11:04] <isteve_> can anyone please help
[11:04] <lapion> PythonSnake, ubuntu__ has openoffice/libreoffice/abi-office..
[11:04] <gry> PythonSnake: If you have it, you can install it with Wine, yes. /msg ubottu !wine
[11:04] <PythonSnake> lapion: stuff lol
[11:04] <teetasse> PythonSnake: maybe with wine... a windows emulator for linux... but it will be better to use open office or libre office
[11:04] <PythonSnake> I'll use gedit so :D
[11:04] <qin> teetasse: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[11:04] <Clerisy> rm: cannot remove `/media/Ipod': Device or resource busy
[11:05] <Clerisy> Somebody help^
[11:05] <wildbat> Clerisy: sudo umount /media/Ipod
[11:05] <ikonia> Clerisy: it's in use so you can't remove it
[11:05] <qin> Clerisy: sudo umount /media/Ipod
[11:05] <lapion> PythonSnake, I ahd a friend who was a hoarder and had 40GiB of nudie art on a system..
[11:05] <gry> Clerisy: I suspect you may wnt to unmount it first
[11:05] <ikonia> Clerisy: when you unmount it, it will get removed automatically
[11:05] <gry> want even.
[11:05] <Clerisy> sudo: unmount: command not found
[11:05] <Clerisy> woops, typo.
[11:05] <asdjaputra> umount
[11:05] <dr_Willis> umount    no n
[11:06] <PythonSnake> lapion: I have many games
[11:06] <tarelerulz> Wine is hit or miss on everything
[11:06] <pksadiq> PythonSnake: nice game          sl-h    ;)
[11:06] <teetasse> PythonSnake: why don't you program in windows?
[11:06] <wildbat> really ~ why it is umount rather then unmount ~ who come up that idea ?XD
[11:06] <Clerisy> thanks
[11:06] <lapion> well PythonSnake get an extra hdd install it in the system and install linux/ubuntu
[11:06] <tarelerulz>  I was going to install chrome (windows verion)  and it can't get pass install.
[11:06] <isteve_> hello? anyone help me too
[11:07] <dr_Willis> wildbat:  old old old standard
[11:07] <asdjaputra> !patience isteve_
[11:07] <asdjaputra> !patience | isteve_
[11:07] <bp__> wildbat,  really old standard :P
[11:07] <wildbat> dr_Willis: i know ~ but it could have been corrected xD
[11:07] <dr_Willis> 6 character file name limit old...
[11:07] <PythonSnake> teetasse: cuz ubuntu is better (faster, more tools....)
[11:08] <bp__> i guess this is how everybody knows it and nobody bothered to change it
[11:08] <susundberg> wildbat: so hes router -- that should be natting -- is not working properly right?
[11:08] <susundberg> his not hes
[11:08] <pksadiq> wildbat: anyway you could alias umount to unmount    so to use unmount as command :)
[11:09] <PythonSnake> how to install minimal version without cd
[11:09] <PythonSnake> ??
[11:09] <dr_Willis> then get confused on other systems
[11:09] <dr_Willis> !install
[11:09] <teetasse> PythonSnake: ok, first of all, forget about the live systems. they are slow, and if you use a fast one, it will be a minimal one that requries knowledge and skills... the best thing for you is to free up some space, 5 GB or so, and install ubuntu minimal or xubuntu. during the install you can resize the partitions and everything will be ok
[11:10] <Clerisy> how can I find my UUID?
[11:10] <wildbat> susundberg: no ~ he need NAT ~ and just rourter is connected to the modem on wrong port  ~ now he is linked up a modem , router, and pc x2 with a switch ~
[11:10] <ikonia> Clerisy: sudo blkid
[11:10] <dr_Willis> you can do a normsl install to a usb flash drive also
[11:10] <PythonSnake> teetasse: how to install minimal w/out cd
[11:10] <asdjaputra> teetasse, well said
[11:10] <wildbat> susundberg: only 1 will win the race to the modem and get the ip
[11:10] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, if you don't want to waste CDs on small isos, use unetbootin to burn the iso to USB, and run it at boot
[11:10] <Kartagis> hi
[11:10] <teetasse> PythonSnake: afaik xubuntu needs about 3 GB so better go with that because it has graphical installer... that's better and easier to understand for you... think asdjaputra will agree
[11:11] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, so you don't run it from that USB but you install ubuntu through it
[11:11] <Kartagis> how can I revert to previous version of openssh? Natty here
[11:11] <asdjaputra> xubuntu, yeah its beginner DE but quite strong
[11:11] <teetasse> PythonSnake: asdjaputra there is a program fro windows that can create bootable pen drives from iso images
[11:11] <asdjaputra> unetbootin?
[11:11] <ikonia> Kartagis: why would you want to do that ?
[11:12] <Hempster> yes that will work
[11:12] <dr_Willis> lubuntu is smaller then xfce i belive
[11:12] <asdjaputra> dr_Willis, true
[11:12] <odix> how can i list my usb drive in ubuntu ?
[11:12] <odix> cmd line
[11:12] <Onederfool> lsusb
[11:12] <Kartagis> ikonia: netadmin says 5.8p1 is blocked by IDS
[11:12] <odix> then format use mkfs
[11:12] <odix> ok
[11:12] <asdjaputra> odix, cd /media;ls
[11:12] <teetasse> dr_Willis: asdjaputra but i think xubuntu is better supported...
[11:12] <asdjaputra> teetasse, lxde's interface is trying to resemble vista
[11:12] <PythonSnake> xubuntu ?
[11:12] <dr_Willis> i perfer lxde over fxce
[11:13] <teetasse> asdjaputra: who wants that?
[11:13] <teetasse> hahaha
[11:13] <ikonia> Kartagis: then you should talk to your netadmin guys as downgrading ssh to a less secure/bug version is backwards instead of updating the netadmin rules
[11:13] <odix> whats the difference in ls and l
[11:13] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, Xfce Ubuntu
[11:13] <asdjaputra> lol
[11:13] <Ivan_The_Terribl> Hey guys, when I connect usb hdd it mounts automaticly with a specific name. How do I change the name it mounts with?
[11:13] <iAmZee> hello
[11:13] <Hempster> why would you rename the mounted name
[11:13] <asdjaputra> Xfce is like Gnome or KDE, but you shouldn't mind about that, you should just know that it works
[11:13] <odix> hmm i dont see it, well i see a device
[11:13] <odix> unetbootin picks it up but i dont see /dev/sdb1 anywhere
[11:13] <teetasse> PythonSnake: download xubuntu and use unetbootin to make a pendrive from it... then you can use that pendrive to install xubuntu
[11:13] <dr_Willis> Ivan_The_Terribl:  change rhe filesystem label
[11:13] <pksadiq> teetasse: don't blame anybody, please
[11:13] <susundberg> wildbat: oh yeah, i understood his network setup badly, you are right here.
[11:14] <gry> odix: think none
[11:14] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, do you need remote help, you sure are new to Linux
[11:14] <odix> gry ?
[11:14] <qin> odix: sudo fdisk -l , or (if mountd) df -h
[11:14] <gry> 12:13:04 < odix> whats the difference in ls and l
[11:14] <gry> 12:14:07 < gry> odix: think none
[11:14] <susundberg> I understood that surely he has the modem connected directory to router only -- but yeah he says its not
[11:14] <odix> thanks
[11:14] <PythonSnake> teetasse: xubuntu is better than ubuntu mini ?
[11:14] <Kartagis> ikonia: I don't quite understand. I think if I downgrade to a previous version, the chances of IDS blocking me is slim. why should I talk to netadmin?
[11:14] <gry> user@laptop:~$ l --help
[11:14] <gry> Usage: ls [OPTION]... [FILE]...
[11:14] <susundberg> though that setup should work if he would be using fixed IP's on the PC's ..
[11:14] <wildbat> anyone know how to fix "lxpanelctrl run" that it can only once per session on lxde/lunbuntu
[11:14] <gry> odix: ^^^
[11:14] <Ivan_The_Terribl> dr_Willis, could you explain how exactly? With gparted?
[11:14] <asdjaputra> gry, ls = ls --color=auto, l = ls -l
[11:14] <teetasse> PythonSnake: it is better for beginners
[11:15] <dr_Willis> Ivan_The_Terribl:  thats one way
[11:15] <PythonSnake> asdjaputra: Idk how to remote with linux ...
[11:15] <odix> doh, i was sshd into a server
[11:15] <gry> asdjaputra: ah
[11:15] <odix> no wonder i couldnt see it
[11:15] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, Teamviewer
[11:15] <ikonia> Kartagis: to get the IDS to not block the better version of SSH
[11:15] <Ivan_The_Terribl> I see thank you.
[11:15] <wildbat> susundberg: fix ip can't help ~ he need NAT for internet sharing
[11:15] <gry> PythonSnake: vnc
[11:15] <teetasse> asdjaputra: Teamviewer during install?
[11:15] <asdjaputra> teetasse, umm nope
[11:15] <asdjaputra> lol
[11:15] <Kartagis> ikonia: that's about me I think, not netadmin or IDS
[11:16] <ikonia> Kartagis: what ?
[11:16] <teetasse> asdjaputra: why do you suggest it when i can not be used during install?
[11:16] <ikonia> Kartagis: if your IDS is blocking the new SSH version, update your IDS to not block the newer ssh version, don't downgrade ssh
[11:16] <teetasse> asdjaputra: ahhhh... you for the setup of the pendrive... my bad
[11:16] <asdjaputra> just helping him burn xubuntu to usb
[11:16] <PythonSnake> does xubuntu have same compatibility as ubuntu ?
[11:16] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, yes
[11:16] <wildbat> susundberg: router will never have the ip as the modem is on the LAN side ~
[11:16] <teetasse> PythonSnake: yes
[11:16] <ikonia> PythonSnake: its the same os - just a different desktop
[11:16] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, it's just a Ubuntu respin with Xfce DE
[11:16] <dr_Willis> !xfce
[11:16] <PythonSnake> xfce de ?
[11:17] <Kartagis> ikonia: I don't think I can get the netadmin to upgrade IDS
[11:17] <susundberg> wildbat: yes. NAT to be configured with DHCP from the modem, and PC's using fixed IP and gateway set to router ?
[11:17] <Kartagis> ikonia: the chances are next to none
[11:17] <ikonia> Kartagis: why ?
[11:17] <asdjaputra> !xfce | PythonSnake
[11:17] <Kartagis> ikonia: thickheads
[11:17] <susundberg> (Nat to be configured == nat machine IP/gateway settings from modem)
[11:17] <ikonia> Kartagis: why would someone block the more secure version of SSH - but leave it open for the less secure version
[11:17] <PythonSnake> ubottu is a bot ?
[11:17] <ikonia> Kartagis: then you'll need to research package pinning and re-install openssh once the package is pinned
[11:17] <Kartagis> !ubottu | PythonSnake
[11:18] <PythonSnake> ubottu: huh ??
[11:18] <qin> Kartagis: Does netcat is blocked too?
[11:18] <teetasse> hahaha
[11:18] <PythonSnake> lol
[11:18] <Kartagis> ...and this goes on
[11:19] <Kartagis> qin: no idea, why?
[11:19] <asdjaputra> !xfce | PythonSnake
[11:19]  * Kartagis shakes fist at the netadmin
[11:19] <PythonSnake> go xubuntu
[11:19] <Kartagis> ikonia: thanks
[11:19] <qin> Kartagis: Test nc, since it is capable of tunneling (never did it with ssh, yet)
[11:20] <teetasse> PythonSnake: let asdjaputra support you with teamview (if he is willing) and go for xfce... but first clear up 5GB of your hard disk... i don't think you want him to watch you moving  all your private data
[11:20] <asdjaputra> haha
[11:20] <Repox> Hi - anyone has an alternate solution to this bug (Evolution is not able to connect to Microsoft Exhange because it's not version 2000/2003)? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-exchange/+bug/206346
[11:20] <asdjaputra> i'm not that bad
[11:20] <wildbat> susundberg:  if he setup that way it is like a switch connected PCs and modem since all in LAN side  ~ router there is unless unless PCs is setup to share the internet with NAT ~ or else ~ same story ~ ( only one IP to the internet ) ~
[11:20] <dr_Willis> 5gb is barely enough for any real work
[11:21] <PythonSnake> teetasse: why 5gb ?
[11:21] <teetasse> asdjaputra: backtrack-hacker :P
[11:21] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, minimal space required for xfce and stuffs such as accessories
[11:21] <dr_Willis> id say 10gb as a min
[11:21] <teetasse> PythonSnake: because 5GB is enough to use xubuntu
[11:21] <asdjaputra> teetasse, i'm on blankon now, not backtrack
[11:21] <qin> Kartagis: By the way, is it client or server problem? http://goo.gl/E2Og4
[11:21] <PythonSnake> I thought 3 gb was enough
[11:22] <teetasse> PythonSnake: yes, but then you cam't save any bigger stuff and always have to worry about space
[11:22] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, for minimal command line system
[11:22] <hroi> hello
[11:22] <asdjaputra> but for Xfce you use around 5 GB of your HD space
[11:22] <dr_Willis> 3gb to install.. then what? no spave to do work in
[11:23] <asdjaputra> dr_Willis, totally forgot! :o
[11:23] <hroi> I just wen to download myself the latest ubuntu 64bit iso
[11:23] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, save maximum space you can for data
[11:23] <dr_Willis> go get a 16gb flash if you ned space
[11:23] <PythonSnake> can I access my files from xubuntu ?
[11:23] <PythonSnake> aka photos pictures videos and stuff
[11:23] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, files in Windows yes
[11:24] <hroi> the website gave me a file called ... ...desktop_amd64.iso
[11:24] <Kartagis> qin: if you are asking if it's a problem with the machine I'm ssh'ing to, no
[11:24] <PythonSnake> I need to worry about hardware compatibility too
[11:24] <PythonSnake> -.-
[11:24] <hroi> however Im going to use this on an intel core 2
[11:24] <dr_Willis> hroi:  so?
[11:24] <dr_Willis> its 64bit
[11:24] <hroi> dr_Willis: right, but why name it amd64 ??
[11:24] <dr_Willis> old.standard
[11:24] <qin> Kartagis: So you cannot use client, coz silly admin?
[11:25] <hroi> dr_Willis: why name the distro iso amd
[11:25] <asdjaputra> hroi, amd is the first company to manufacture 64 bit processors
[11:25] <teetasse> PythonSnake: do you use a laptop?
[11:25] <Kartagis> qin: exactly
[11:25] <PythonSnake> yes
[11:25] <dr_Willis> amf had it firsy
[11:25] <asdjaputra> hroi, its not the distro, its the processor type
[11:25] <teetasse> PythonSnake: are you connected with wireless or cable?
[11:25] <asdjaputra> intel 32-bit, or AMD 64-bit
[11:25] <hroi> dr_Willis: I doubt amd was the first to produce a 64bit processor.
[11:25] <asdjaputra> hroi, they were.
[11:25] <PythonSnake> teetasse: wireless
[11:25] <dr_Willis> first common one
[11:25] <qin> Kartagis: Just try nc ip_of_sshserver 22
[11:26] <wildbat> linux will be more friendly if they drop those "old" standard ;p
[11:26] <PythonSnake> wifi :)
[11:26] <asdjaputra> hroi, and its kept tradition to name 64-bit distros amd64
[11:26] <dr_Willis> you adked why.. this is why
[11:26] <hroi> asdjaputra: first time I see that, used to be calle x86_64
[11:26] <hroi> ohh well
[11:27] <dr_Willis> x86 is in kernel versiins info
[11:27] <asdjaputra> hroi, so that's compatible from i386 to amd64
[11:27] <hroi> dr_Willis: ok so this distro also has binaries optimized for the intel I guess.
[11:27] <teetasse> PythonSnake: the computer you sue to caht here... is that the one you want to use for xubuntu?
[11:27] <asdjaputra> dr_Willis, isn't it i386 processor
[11:27] <asdjaputra> i386-i486-i586 etc.?
[11:27] <ziniman> Hey, how can I forward 'time dd'- output to a file? > and >> doesn't work
[11:27] <PythonSnake> teetasse: sue to caht here?
[11:28] <Kartagis> qin: nc: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known
[11:28] <teetasse> PythonSnake: use tho chat here ... sorry for the typos
[11:28] <PythonSnake> yes
[11:28] <viliny> don't forget 286
[11:28] <dr_Willis> they are 64 bit binaries. not cpu specific or optmized
[11:28] <teetasse> PythonSnake: ok, if you move some of your movies and pictures to your external hard disk, hoch much space do you think can you free up?
[11:29] <asdjaputra> viliny, oh yes, old times..
[11:29] <teetasse> on your hdd
[11:29] <Collin2> I GOT IT!
[11:29] <PythonSnake> 149 gb
[11:29] <PythonSnake> or more
[11:29] <PythonSnake> :)
[11:29] <hroi> dr_Willis: ok goog to know, thought that the distro would at least pick out an optimized kernel for my cpu
[11:29] <Collin2> it wasnt working at first
[11:29] <Collin2> but then i restarted everything
[11:29] <PythonSnake> max is 250 gb
[11:29] <dr_Willis> PythonSnake:  make backups befor resizeing.
[11:29] <Collin2> and left my MODEM off
[11:29] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, wow
[11:29] <Collin2> booted my MODEM LAST
[11:29] <Collin2> and now internet, and local is working
[11:29] <qin> Kartagis: How? can you ping your server?
[11:29] <Collin2> on both machines
[11:29] <Collin2> thank you guys, so much
[11:30] <teetasse> PythonSnake: are you serious? you keep us busy with thinkg how to solve your problem of minimal space and the you tell us that?
[11:30] <Kartagis> qin: netadmin blocks pings
[11:30] <Kartagis> grr
[11:30] <ziniman> Hey I need answers NOW, how can I forward 'time dd'- output to a file? > and >> doesn't work
[11:30] <Collin2> susundberg, qin, and wildbat
[11:30]  * Kartagis again shakes fist at the netadmin
[11:30] <Collin2> thank you
[11:30] <PythonSnake> teetasse: no -.-
[11:30] <PythonSnake> jk
[11:30] <ikonia> ziniman: that attitude will get you no answers NOW
[11:30] <teetasse> PythonSnake: just put some of your movies on the external one, and install normal ubuntu
[11:30] <wildbat> Collin2:  u re welcome
[11:30] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, so?
[11:31] <Collin2> wildbat:
[11:31] <Collin2> 1 problem
[11:31] <asdjaputra> teetasse, psh, i like fluxbox better to be installed than Unity
[11:31] <ziniman> ikonia: I know, but.. *sigh*
[11:31] <Collin2> ipv6 isnt working on either machine now
[11:31] <Collin2> :(
[11:31] <ikonia> ziniman: maybe next time, adjust your attitude and you will get answers
[11:31] <PythonSnake> teetasse: xubuntu or no ?
[11:32] <wildbat> Collin2: most router and/or isp don't support
[11:32] <ziniman> ikonia: the problem is that I have no time now
[11:32] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, fluxbuntu
[11:32] <ziniman> ikonia: so..
[11:32] <qin> Kartagis: Did you think of changeing ssh port?
[11:32] <ikonia> ziniman: then you just need to explain that, rather than demanding answers "NOW"
[11:32] <Collin2> wildbat: it was working before
[11:32] <Collin2> it was native
[11:32] <teetasse> asdjaputra: to be honest i am a bit bad at PythonSnake to waste my time ... i wish he installed unity... or windows vista
[11:32] <Collin2> its probably the router
[11:32] <Collin2> that doesnt support it
[11:32] <wildbat> Collin2: if your isp do / you need new router ~
[11:32] <sammmy> how does ubuntu tweek actually tweek the os?
[11:32] <Collin2> ye
[11:32] <Collin2> its okay
[11:32] <Collin2> ipv4 is fine
[11:32] <Collin2> for now
[11:32] <FloodBot1> Collin2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:32] <ziniman> ikonia: explain? explain why I need answer asap?
[11:32] <Collin2> thank you.
[11:33] <ikonia> sammmy: it just changes config files and the gconf settings, I recommend you don't need it
[11:33] <ikonia> ziniman: dead easy "I'm looking for help, I'm short on time so a quick reply would be appricated how do I....." rather than I need help NOW !
[11:33] <asdjaputra> teetasse, i dont understand
[11:33] <PythonSnake> teetasse: huh ?
[11:34] <PythonSnake> lol me too
[11:34] <viliny> what does ">" do in shell?
[11:34] <hroi> dr_Willis: is there any difference package repository wise between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server ?
[11:34] <teetasse> asdjaputra: fluxbuntu is not well supportet either... he should go for xubuntu... fluxbox can be intalled later... i don't know how comfortable newbies with fluxbox are... maythings different (mostly better) from windows
[11:34] <asdjaputra> teetasse, you feel bad for wasting your time answering PythonSnake ?
[11:34] <dr_Willis> sammmy:  gconf settings for the most part
[11:34] <dr_Willis> hroi: no
[11:34] <asdjaputra> teetasse, xfce vs fluxbox
[11:34] <viliny> im looking at my old line in crontab that outputs sysinfo to a file on my web server every 10 minutes but i can't understand it anymore :p
[11:34] <hroi> dr_Willis: I would like to use the server version, but worry that it uses less current packages.
[11:35] <PythonSnake> :(
[11:35] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, install xubuntu
[11:35] <dr_Willis> hroi: why use server. you want a gui?
[11:35] <teetasse> asdjaputra PythonSnake as i understand it, PythonSnake could easily free some GB and install ubuntu without troubles... but instead he keeps me/us busy with thinking about solution for a non existing problem
[11:35] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, if you don't like it (for being slow and stuff), you could replace it with fluxbox
[11:35] <asdjaputra> teetasse, ah, ok dont be mad at him
[11:35] <hroi> dr_Willis: I want x window support and remote desktop support.
[11:35] <teetasse> PythonSnake asdjaputra or did i get something wrong?
[11:36] <bunty> hi all.
[11:36] <dr_Willis> hroi:  use desktop then
[11:36] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, use openbox
[11:36] <bunty> I just updated my system and now I don't have the unity desktop.
[11:36] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, ok whatever size your HDD is free on, install crunchbang
[11:36] <asdjaputra> #!
[11:36] <PythonSnake> fluxbox openbox ubuntu xubuntu
[11:36] <hroi> dr_Willis: ok, however, this will be a multi-user "Server" type setup.
[11:36] <asdjaputra> it should be able to run on both less memory machine or 250 GB machine
[11:36] <PythonSnake> confusing
[11:37] <bunty> I get the message on login that my system doesnt have teh hardware to run unity
[11:37] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, pm me, teetasse is mad :p
[11:37] <dr_Willis> hroi:  wont matter
[11:37] <bunty> ? I was just running it fine.
[11:37] <teetasse> asdjaputra: :P just need some time to cool off... then i'm in again
[11:37] <asdjaputra> k
[11:37] <hroi> dr_Willis: ok, so no difference in how the kernel is configured to run...
[11:37] <PythonSnake> lol
[11:38] <dr_Willis> hroi some little things but probely nothing to worry about
[11:38] <hroi> dr_Willis: I have heard rumours that distros like Ubuntu, tweek the kernels
[11:38] <teetasse> asdjaputra: is chrunchbang ubuntu based?
[11:38] <asdjaputra> teetasse, yes, but since version 10 its debian based
[11:39] <PythonSnake> teetasse: lol
[11:39] <teetasse> asdjaputra: cool... might ceck it out when i feel funny
[11:40] <teetasse> asdjaputra: i would still recommend xubuntu to PythonSnake ... because xfce is minimal enough, and ubuntu offers the support...
[11:40] <teetasse> asdjaputra: i think our friend would be killed with rtfm-answers in the debian irc
[11:41] <hroi> dr_Willis: thanks!
[11:41] <dr_Willis> you could have installed ubuntu 5x time by now  heh
[11:41] <asdjaputra> hahaha
[11:41] <asdjaputra> true
[11:41] <asdjaputra> debian channel is for advanced users i think
[11:41] <asdjaputra> beginners start with ubuntu
[11:41] <asdjaputra> and ends with debian
[11:42] <dr_Willis> then come back
[11:42] <teetasse> true
[11:42] <ntkm> hi
[11:42] <asdjaputra> hi
[11:42] <asdjaputra> hihihi
[11:42] <jkup> sup
[11:42] <teetasse> although i started my linux experinece with gentoo - baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea :P
[11:42] <dr_Willis> learning the fundamentals  and distro wont matter much
[11:44] <sammmy> where's the gconf settings located?
[11:44] <ikonia> sammmy: in a gconf database, it's not a flat file
[11:45] <teetasse> PythonSnake: so can you free up 5GB? you will need this space to install xubuntu. if you lake it and want to use it more often you still can resize the partitions later
[11:45] <teetasse> lake = like
[11:46] <PythonSnake> teetasse: asdjaputra told me to get ubuntu
[11:46] <PythonSnake> lol
[11:46] <teetasse> PythonSnake: ubuntu is good too
[11:46] <asdjaputra> 200GB > go for ubuntu
[11:46] <asdjaputra> but use 10.04
[11:46]  * teetasse agrees with asdjaputra 
[11:47] <sammmy> ikonia: what do you mean?
[11:47] <PythonSnake> why not 11 ?
[11:47] <ikonia> sammmy: exactly what I've said
[11:47] <ikonia> PythonSnake: look, stop asking these questions and try it - see if you like it, if you don't, you just change it
[11:47] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, buggy
[11:47] <ikonia> PythonSnake: you seem to be just asking the same question over and over again
[11:48] <asdjaputra> ikonia, easy there
[11:48] <ikonia> asdjaputra: it's fine, we are just covering the same over and over again, the advice has been given, try it - it's that simple
[11:48] <teetasse> PythonSnake: 10.04 is a LTS version.. LongTermSupport that means, that they are more stable and better tested
[11:48] <jkup> do you have to declare intergers with $
[11:48] <ikonia> jkup: in what respect ?
[11:49] <sammmy> ikonia: how do I access the gconf database?
[11:49] <ikonia> sammmy: you use the gconf2 tool
[11:49] <aman> I wanna get alert about CPU temp in natty
[11:49] <teetasse> PythonSnake: also, you will not have that strange unity interface, which might be bestranging for windows-conversts
[11:49] <jkup> say i prompt the user "how old are you"
[11:49] <jkup> and i wanna print echo "oh so you are $(number they chose)"
[11:49] <aman> earlier i used ComputerTemp but its not available in Natty
[11:49] <ikonia> jkup: what language are you trying to write in ?
[11:50] <jkup> Bash
[11:50] <aman> any help please???
[11:50] <Kartagis> !info ssh
[11:50] <ikonia> jkup: then no, $ does not mean an interger it's just a varibable, you may also want to try ##bash
[11:50] <sammmy> ikonia, AKA Configuration Editor?
[11:50] <ikonia> sammmy: no idea
[11:51] <jkup> ikonia:Whats thats supposed to mean? ima newb haha jk x]]] thanks
[11:51] <sammmy> so is gconf like the windows' registry?
[11:51] <ikonia> jkup: it means $ is not an interger it's just any variable, you may also want to try the ##bash channel for bash help
[11:52] <dr_Willis> jkup:  there are many bssh guides out there
[11:52] <dr_Willis> sammy  similer in idea
[11:53] <jkup> oh snap my bad i thought i was in the #bash channel oops
[11:53] <dbugger> Hello guys. Can someone explain me when I use keytool, I get this message? " Keystore file exists, but is empty: dbugger.keystore"
[11:53] <dr_Willis> jkup:  they will say go read some guides
[11:53] <dr_Willis>  :)
[11:53] <aman> plztell me how  to get alert about CPU temp in natty
[11:54] <dr_Willis> !sensors
[11:54] <jkup> yeah i know x] they just said it
[11:54] <gry> aman: cpu temperature?
[11:55] <aman> yaa actually its getting hot
[11:56] <aman> i wanna audible alarm using Beep command
[11:56] <gry> aman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4276333&postcount=8
[11:56] <dirtycookie> hello people, i just have installed ubuntu 11.04 and my problem is that i have a little old 19" screen that doesn't tell the OS about it's screen resolutions that it can make
[11:56] <dirtycookie> how can i add a screen resolution manually?
[11:57] <aman> thnx but that dont give me any option to get alarms
[11:57] <gry> dirtycookie: System -> Preferences -> Monitors
[11:57] <Kartagis> ikonia: I'm trying package pinning, I've typed sudo apt-get install openssh-server=5.3p1-3ubuntu6 but it says it doesn't have this version. any ideas?
[11:58] <ikonia> Kartagis: does it have that version in the ubuntu version you are using ?
[11:59] <gry> !info computertemp
[11:59] <gry> aman: ^^^
[11:59] <gry> aman: (might have an alarm, not sure)
[11:59] <johngilbrough> How do I edit the system crontab?  If I do a "sudo crontab -e", I get "no crontab for root".
[11:59] <jrib> johngilbrough: why?
[11:59] <ikonia> johngilbrough: there is no default crontab for root
[12:00] <Akkar1n> nobody got a clue what the problem with my fallback to gdm is? :/
 thnx alot,,,  let me explore it further
[12:00] <teetasse> Akkar1n: nope, sorry
[12:00] <jrib> !helpme | Akkar1n
[12:00] <qin> Neat!
[12:00] <johngilbrough> The reason for editing it is to change a time.
[12:00] <ikonia> johngilbrough: a time ?
[12:00] <anon__> dirtycookie, xrandr
[12:00] <johngilbrough> The time a process runs each day.
[12:00] <ikonia> johngilbrough: just do "sudo crontab -e" then and put a crontab in, there is no crontab for root, so you will make one
[12:00] <jrib> johngilbrough: what do you want to edit exactly?  If you want to edit /etc/crontab, then just use a text editor
[12:01] <IanPM-W> I have an interesting problem. My 11.4 install won't see, or bring up my eth0. Although the driver is apparently present
[12:01] <gry> johngilbrough: /etc/crontab
[12:01] <Kartagis> ikonia: yes. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/openssh/1:5.3p1-3ubuntu6
[12:01] <technikfreak> hi which player is good for searhcing music and play
[12:01] <technikfreak> like winamp or itnues
[12:01] <technikfreak> but not o heavy
[12:01] <johngilbrough> There we go.  Thank you.
[12:02] <technikfreak> in ubuntu
[12:02] <gry> johngilbrough: ikonia gave one for root, mine if global file, it has a few lines at its top.
[12:02] <Kartagis> technikfreak: clementine or rhyhtmbox
[12:02] <bullgard4> What DEB program package contains the kernel documentation?
[12:02] <ikonia> Kartagis: I didn't think you where using lucid
[12:03] <teetasse> technikfreak: i think the one with the coolest features is amarok, but it's quite heavy. i'd say rhyhtmbox is waht you might like
[12:03] <ikonia> bullgard4: I believe the kernel source package contains the documentation, if by documentation you mean the README for that kernel
[12:03] <Kartagis> ikonia: I am using natty. I thought package pinning was done if you want to install an earlier version
[12:03] <technikfreak> ok cool thx
[12:03] <dr_Willis> if an earlier version is in the repos
[12:03] <johngilbrough> Is there anything to run after you've modified crontab?
[12:03] <ikonia> Kartagis: you don't use packages from earlier versions, just an earlier package version within your current distro
[12:04] <ikonia> Kartagis: eg: and earlier natty package for you
[12:04] <ikonia> johngilbrough: no
[12:04] <johngilbrough> ok - thank you
[12:04] <misaq> hello everyone
[12:04] <technikfreak> yeah i ahve a netbool so
[12:04] <gry> misaq: Hello there.
[12:04] <ectospasm> shottech1: sorry... had to work.
[12:04] <misaq> can someone  help me with my monitor problem?
[12:04] <Kartagis> ikonia: I think natty has only 5.8p1
[12:04] <ectospasm> !ask | misaq
[12:04] <ikonia> Kartagis: can't do it then
[12:05] <rajkosto> how do i install sun java6 in natty ?
[12:05] <misaq> my CRT monitor turns off frequently
[12:05] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you.
[12:05] <BasisBit> how to downgrade from 11.04 with unity to an older one with gnome?
[12:06] <DJones> !classic | BasisBit
[12:06] <ikonia> BasisBit: you can't downgrade, you need to re-install
[12:06] <gry> rajkosto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10530065&postcount=5
[12:06] <gry> BasisBit: Select "Ubuntu classic" at the bottom of login screen.
[12:06] <rajkosto> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java instructions give me a 404 in apt-get update
[12:06] <misaq> does anyone know why my monitor is turning off
[12:07] <Kartagis> ikonia: in what section can I see openssh version on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:07]  * BasisBit doesn't like 11.04..
[12:07] <asdjaputra> !details | misaq
[12:07] <gry> rajkosto: Details, please? What URL is it failing to get?
[12:07] <ikonia> Kartagis: what ?
[12:07] <rajkosto> gry, the one that apt-add adds
[12:07] <rajkosto> both of them
[12:07] <rajkosto> the one you just gave with forums works
[12:07] <gry> BasisBit: Downgrade usually is not an option. You aither 1) customise or 2) choose another distro. Downgrade is eventually unsafe.
[12:08] <gry> BasisBit: (And the login screen has n option to do what you want, anyway)
[12:08] <gry> rajkosto: Pastebin please?
[12:08] <rajkosto> lost it now
[12:08] <rajkosto> so
[12:08] <DJones> BasisBit: You have seen that you can still use gnome 2 with 11.04 by selecting it at the login screen
[12:08] <rajkosto> if you follow the page tutorial you will get it
[12:08] <misaq> can it be due to Ubuntu?
[12:09] <BasisBit> gry: yes... I think I will go with option 2 (another distro)
[12:09] <misaq> when I turn on my computer, sometimes the monitor doesn't start
[12:10] <gry> BasisBit: You are highly advised to try the option at login screen, though. :-)
[12:10] <gry> misaq: Please add hardware details on that.
[12:10] <rajkosto> what is this unity ulshit
[12:10] <BasisBit> gry: I did... but unity is not the only thing I don't like about 11.04..
[12:10] <asdjaputra> !language | rajkosto
[12:10] <dork> what's the trick to making the entire tool bar transparent?
[12:10] <xt3mp0r_> i have installed ubuntu within windows, now i want to install ubuntu directly and remove windows, but still preserve all my data. How can i do it?
[12:10] <misaq> I am using SyncMaster MB1763
[12:10] <asdjaputra> dork, use clearlooks theme and make it transparent
[12:10] <gry> dork: Toolbar of what application?
[12:10] <Kartagis> !info ssh
[12:11] <admngy2> hi guys.  can someone help me find version control on this server?  All I know is that "version control was hosted as a bare Git repository on the [...] server. It is currently not running this way because I was halfway through setting up Gitosis."
[12:11] <ikonia> Kartagis: what do you want to know ?
[12:11] <admngy2> if someone wrote you that ,would you expect the version control to still be there somewhere?  (Like old versions and stuff)
[12:11] <Kartagis> !info ssh lucid
[12:11] <admngy2> This person left suddenly and without cooperating much on the handout. They had been the CTO responsible for 100% of the code and sys admin.
[12:11] <ikonia> Kartagis: you can't use lucid packages with natty
[12:11] <JelteL> xt3mp0r_ I think you should copy your /home folder to usb, install Ubuntu the normal way and then copy your files back to ubuntu?
[12:11] <dork> gry: the main toolbar in classic view, toggling transparency only makes the middle transparent and not the task manager or the drop down menus
[12:11] <JelteL> something like that
[12:12] <Kartagis> ikonia: so I have to luck but persuade netadmin to upgrade IDS?
[12:12] <xt3mp0r_> JelteL: All my main data is in window drives, which get mounted on ubuntu. No other way then backup and restore?
[12:12] <ikonia> Kartagis: or not use natty
[12:12] <nopz___> Hi there
[12:12] <JelteL> dunno, Iḿ no expert ;-)
[12:12] <gry> nopz___: Hello.
[12:13] <xt3mp0r_> JelteL: np :P
[12:13] <BasisBit> maybe you should make this channel invite only and "outsource" the support-requests to forums...
[12:13] <gry> BasisBit: IRC support is faster. :-)
[12:13] <baremetal> Has anyone here running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS been able to install kernel 2.6.39 as a deb package?
[12:13] <baremetal> Perhaps: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/kernel-ppa
[12:14] <Ivan_The_Terribl> Guys, why my numpad keys from time to time begin to act like mouse cursor??? I have to go to system-keyboard and disable this stubid function but it sometimes go back again.
[12:14] <ikonia> baremetal: no, 10.04 is not build on .39 so that is not supported/good idea
[12:14] <xt3mp0r_> i have installed ubuntu within windows, now i want to install ubuntu directly and remove windows, but still preserve all my data. How can i do it? anyone?
[12:14] <gry> xt3mp0r_: Please stand by.
[12:14] <baremetal> ikonia, are you running  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ?
[12:14] <xt3mp0r_> gry: okay
[12:14] <ikonia> baremetal: yes
[12:16] <baremetal> ikonia, Are you running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS  with kernel 2.6.32  AND  *2.6.38* as a deb package?
[12:16] <ikonia> no, I'm not running beyond the base supported kernel
[12:17] <baremetal> Is anyone here  running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS  with kernel 2.6.32  AND  *2.6.38* as a deb package?
[12:17] <jrib> baremetal: ask your real question
[12:17] <ikonia> baremetal: probably not as it's not a supported configuration
[12:17] <gry> baremetal: What are you actually trying to do, please?
[12:17] <IanPM-W> Is there a way to elevate permissions through the GUI so that I can edit a file owned by root?
[12:17] <IanPM-W> it seems complicated
[12:17] <gry> !gksu | IanPM-W
[12:17] <jrib> IanPM-W: what file?
[12:18] <IanPM-W> ah ha!
[12:18] <IanPM-W> thanks :)
[12:18] <gry> Sure.
[12:18] <IanPM-W> I'm looking into some /etc/network/interface stuff
[12:18] <IanPM-W> it's just simpler to do so through the GUI
[12:18] <elementz> hi all. my new and first hads SSD arrived today. Is there anything I should watch out for, when installing Natty? Filesystem/alignment/partitioning aso? I haven't found a good guide yet. Mabye some of you have some experience already?
[12:18] <jrib> IanPM-W: keep in mind interfaces are managed through network-manager by default nowadays
[12:18] <baremetal> gry, i am trying to install 2.6.39  as a deb package  on LTS. Can not find 2.6.39 but I can find 2.6.38
[12:19] <gry> baremetal: Then package it. :-)
[12:19] <movan2011> IanPM-W why not press Alt+F2 and type "gksu nautilus <path>" where <path> points to the file you want to edit.  Oh and don't add the quotes.
[12:19] <gry> baremetal: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
[12:19] <ikonia> baremetal: why do you want that kernel ?
[12:19] <movan2011> @IamPN-W:  Sorry, meant gedit not nautilus.
[12:19] <IanPM-W> jrib, the problem I have, is that the network interfaces thing doesn't show up eth0
[12:19] <IanPM-W> and I'm trying to troubleshoot i t
[12:20] <movan2011> Seem to be obsessed with nautilus today.
[12:20] <IanPM-W> it was working, but seems to have stopped somehow
[12:20] <cloudyLights> hi
[12:20] <IanPM-W> I might have done something, but I really have no idea what
[12:20] <gry> hi cloudyLights
[12:20] <IanPM-W> so if anyone has bright ideas about how to get eth0 back
[12:20] <IanPM-W> I'd love to hear them
[12:20] <cloudyLights> I use 11.04 , when I insert a SD card I see this:
[12:20] <gry> hi beginer
[12:20] <cloudyLights> I get a window saying unable to mount 4.0 GB
[12:21] <beginer> gry, hello
[12:21] <cloudyLights> gvfs and xfce are installed and used
[12:21] <baremetal> gry, i want 2.6.39 because it has certain drivers i would like to have. among them which is unique to 2.6.39 is zd1211rw (Wireless drivers for zydas chipset  usb adapter) whis supports AP mode
[12:21] <cloudyLights> how to let my user mount the SD via gvfs?
[12:21] <Kartagis> damn you netadmin!
[12:22] <baremetal> gry: have you seen  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/kernel-ppa    ???
[12:22] <cloudyLights> baremetal: I was looking for someone to tell me how good is the zd as a AP
[12:22] <ikonia> baremetal: zd1211rw has been in the kernel since 2.6.18
[12:22] <cloudyLights> but AP is only recent
[12:23] <seravitae> hello i have a question about synaptic. it is kind of a programmign question though. I was wondering how when you go 'applying changes' in synaptic - it shows a terminal window inside the application.
[12:23] <baremetal> ikonia,  zd1211rw has been in the kernel a long time but only 2.6.39  gives you zydas  AP mode
[12:23] <seravitae> I want to write a program that has a terminal inside it - i have no idea how it is done. anyone have any ideas?
[12:23] <ikonia> baremetal: by AP mode, do you mean "master" mode ?
[12:24] <baremetal> YES
[12:24] <cloudyLights> right
[12:24] <jrib> seravitae: read the source code :D  Probably look at libvte
[12:24] <sammmy> suspend for some reason don't keep my workspace.
[12:24] <ikonia> !info linux-kernel
[12:24] <ikonia> oops
[12:24] <sammmy> Could this be because I've used wubi to install ubuntu?
[12:24] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[12:25] <ikonia> baremetal: that kernel isn't even in natty, so you're going to be on dubious stability ground as even the later ubuntu release isn't built around it.
[12:25] <baremetal> i do not use natty, it is buggy as hell and i like a lot of people hate unity
[12:25] <ikonia> baremetal: maybe worth contacting the PPA owner for some support
[12:26] <seravitae> jrib - cheers, libvte seems to be it.
[12:28] <hammoommah> hello poeples
[12:28] <gry> Hello.
[12:28] <zamba> anyone using iscsi and multipath here and can help me figure out why failover doesn't work?
[12:28] <gry> zamba: Only if you ask, explaining what's happening. :-)
[12:28] <hammoommah> any network specialists?
[12:28] <gry> hammoommah: Some.
[12:29] <gry> hammoommah: What's up? :-)
[12:29] <hammoommah> ok here goes........
[12:29] <zamba> gry: well, i'm basically new to the whole iscsi/multipath thingy.. i have one lun on a san with two controllers with four ports each.. when doing multipath -ll i see 8 devices in total (/dev/sdb -> /dev/sdi).. where should i create my partitions?
[12:30] <zamba> gry: http://pastebin.com/Gdv35JWr <- here's the output
[12:31] <zamba> in /dev/mapper i have mpath0.. is this the device i should be partitioning?
[12:31] <hammoommah> i have imac plus about 6 other oldish boxes, im looking at setting up home network so me/my wife/my 5 kids can all share resourses plus add a ubuntu media centre. i was thinking of setting up unbuntu server with clients attached and join imac plus media centre to that......... if that makes sense
[12:32] <dr_willis> hammoommah,  so.. you  'are making a home network' .....
[12:32] <gry> zamba: That said, I'm nobody myself; all I did was get you ask this question in full in here, be assured that people in here may be able to respond soon. :-)
[12:32] <zamba> oh
[12:32] <hammoommah> yep yep
[12:32] <kdbwnf> Hi. I've just installed firefox 5 and now I can't see the firefox icon in the unity when I'm running firefox. Any ideas to solve it?
[12:32] <gry> zamba: (Surely this should be a helpful channel overall!)
[12:32] <hammoommah> 2 in essence
[12:33] <hammoommah> one from server to clients and one to join server imac media centre
[12:33] <dr_willis> I dont get why they both cant be the same network
[12:34] <hammoommah> thats why im here
[12:37] <hroi> how is ext4 is it good, and interacts well with other systems? nfsmount etc.
[12:37] <hosting> ку!
[12:37] <hosting> Русские есть?
[12:37] <hosting> ;d
[12:37] <hosting> :D
[12:37] <hroi> ubuntu suggests ext4 as default
[12:38] <kdbwnf> Hi. I've just installed firefox 5 and now I can't see the firefox icon in the unity when I'm running firefox. Any ideas to solve it?
[12:38] <hosting> Hayy! Russian!
[12:38] <hosting> America faq you
[12:38] <hosting> ;D
[12:38] <hosting> agagay
[12:38] <hosting> hello
[12:38] <dr_willis> hroi,  you shouldent have any issues
[12:38] <hosting> I,m in russian
[12:38] <hosting> who?
[12:38] <hosting> Давай по русски!
[12:38] <gry> !ru | hosting
[12:39] <gulzar> error: unable to determine major/minor no. of root device '/dev/disk/by-uuid...........Yo are being dropped to recovery shell. Type exit to try & continue booting. /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off. [ramfs]#
[12:39] <hroi> dr_willis: thanks, ok ext4 shouldnt have any issues, ext3 most likely wont have any issues.
[12:39] <aji> hai]
[12:40] <dr_willis> hroi,  ext2 proberly wouldent be any issues either....
[12:40] <teetasse> asdfasdfa: so how are things going on with PythonSnake
[12:40] <dr_willis> hroi,  but thats going a bit far. :)
[12:40] <PythonSnake> teetasse: go debian
[12:40] <PythonSnake> :D
[12:41] <teetasse> PythonSnake: pure debian or chrunchbang?
[12:41] <dr_willis> I think i could of had Ubuntu installed to 30 machines  since this discussion was started with PythonSnake .... :)
[12:41] <ikonia> guys - we don't care about non-ubuntu distro dicussion/help in here
[12:42] <PythonSnake> teetasse: pure
[12:42] <asdjaputra> what was the discussion about?
[12:42] <gulzar> ikonia: nice........somebody is there who respects knowledge
[12:42] <hroi> dr_willis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4  mentions that I may not be able to nfsmount ext4 on older distros.
[12:42] <ikonia> gulzar: no, the channels policy is that this channel is for ubuntu support dicussion only - so I respect the topic
[12:43] <hroi> dr_willis: Ive got no need for exabyte size disks, so ext3 is safe
[12:43] <dr_willis> hroi,  and how old is old?   Ive never seen anyone mention the issue.
[12:43] <teetasse> PythonSnake: so install allready finished? asdfasdfa
[12:43] <asdjaputra> asdfasdfa, lol
[12:43] <PythonSnake> no
[12:43] <PythonSnake> 3 hours left
[12:43] <asdjaputra> asdjaputra
[12:43] <Murdy> Hello everyone
[12:43] <gry> hi Murdy
[12:43] <gulzar> ikonia: yes . But I think one question will not do much harm
[12:43] <asdjaputra> Debian is a yes go here
[12:43] <teetasse> PythonSnake: downloading?
[12:43] <hroi> dr_willis:  I mean, if we have distros that dont come with ext4, 2+ years old,
[12:43] <Murdy> How are you?
[12:43] <asdjaputra> Murdy, fine, question please.
[12:43] <gulzar> ikonia: a long disscussionis surely bad
[12:43] <ikonia> gulzar: it's a discussion that's been going on for a long time, hence why I'm asking it to stop
[12:43] <hroi> dr_willis: then those systems wont completely support nfsmount from this system
[12:44] <gry> Murdy: good, thanks
[12:44] <ikonia> PythonSnake: are you installing ubuntu, yes/no ?
[12:44] <Murdy> Is it obligatory to ask questions?
[12:44] <asdjaputra> Murdy, lol no
[12:44] <gulzar> go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:44] <PythonSnake> ikonia: no
[12:44] <dr_willis> hroi,  only thing ive ever had issues with when using ext4 was my  old 'nas' thats linux based only supported ext3 :) or some old live cd's  but  are you really going to be using such old stuff?
[12:44] <gry> Murdy: in this channel generally yes, otherwise try ther -offtopic channel please
[12:44] <asdjaputra> ikonia, he/she tried 10.04 and has some compability issues
[12:44] <dr_willis> !info arista
[12:45] <ikonia> PythonSnake: ok - then this discussion isn't for this channel, please take it to #debian or what ever distro channel you're currently using
[12:45] <gulzar> PythonSnake:teetasse:asdjaputra: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:45] <asdjaputra> its much better #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:45] <asdjaputra> i am
[12:45] <ikonia> gulzar: no, that is not a support channel either
[12:45] <dr_willis> Cool Arista is in the repos. :)  i like it better then Winff
[12:45] <hroi> dr_willis:  :) I have no choice, my workplace is littered with old linuxes... many put together years ago.
[12:45] <asdjaputra> gulzar, that's ok we aren't asking for support there
[12:45] <gulzar> ikonia: but to disscuss abt python.......it will be gud
[12:45] <gry> gulzar: there is #python too :-)
[12:45] <hroi> dr_willis: linux upgrades are a big problem... as these boxer are providing services.
[12:45] <ikonia> gulzar: no, there are channels such as #debian to help him
[12:46] <asdjaputra> ikonia, lol but he's not even done yey
[12:46] <dr_willis> hammoommah,  chat in the channel.. You havent really stated what your actual issue is. If its complex. you may want to put the info on a pastebin site.
[12:46] <asdjaputra> yet*
[12:46] <gulzar> gry : nice
[12:46] <ikonia> asdjaputra: it doesn't matter, it's not for this channel
[12:46] <asdjaputra> hroi, not hammoommah , dr_willis
[12:46] <asdjaputra> ikonia, k, we're leaving
[12:46] <dr_willis> asdjaputra,  i am talking to hammoommah  from 10 min ago.. :)
[12:47] <asdjaputra> dr_willis, oh lol
[12:47] <hammoommah> hmmmm pastebin site?
[12:47] <asdjaputra> bye ikonia
[12:47] <herrgabriel> anybody knows how to pack my current ubuntu install into an ISO so i can deploy it on other machines as well?
[12:47] <gry> hammoommah: pastebin.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <dr_willis> hroi,  its sort of scary that your workplace is providing services with  'workplace is littered with old linuxes... many put together years ago.'
[12:47] <dr_willis> !pastebin | hammoommah
[12:48] <compdoc> herrgabriel, that is possible. suggestions were on the mailing list recently
[12:48] <dr_willis> herrgabriel,  its doable - but can take some work. theres a thread on the topic at the askubuntu.com site i saw just the other day
[12:48] <dr_willis> herrgabriel,  if its a small setup. you can 'dd' to a file then dd it to the other machines hd's and then resize the filesystmes. and fix the hostname and other bits..
[12:49] <gulzar> error: unable to determine major/minor no. of root device '/dev/disk/by-uuid...........Yo are being dropped to recovery shell. Type exit to try & continue booting. /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off. [ramfs]#
[12:49] <herrgabriel> compdoc, do you have a link? i'm not subsribed to the mailinglist :(
[12:49] <hroi> dr_willis: go and visit any understaffed civil cervice company :)  -- better yet visit a university, they are worse.
[12:49] <herrgabriel> dr_willis, i was thinking about dd'ing as well, but i figured a nice installer would be better
[12:50] <dr_willis> herrgabriel,  i did a dd method last week - installed to a 8gb flash drive. tweaked it a little.. then dd'd it to a exernal usb hd. worked better then i thought it would. :)
[12:50] <compdoc> herrgabriel, if you were to google your question, you should find the mailing lists archives
[12:50] <dr_willis> herrgabriel,  check askubuntu.com site also. i know they got a question on the topic
[12:50] <herrgabriel> compdoc, kk
[12:50] <teetasse> asdfasdfa: where did you and PythonSnake go? - want to  know hwo the story ends
[12:51] <herrgabriel> thanks all, will try a dd to USB-stick
[12:51] <PythonSnake> teetasse: lol
[12:51] <asdjaputra> teetasse, pm
[12:51] <asdjaputra> teetasse, he decided to go for debian
[12:52] <hammoommah> @Dr_willis http://imagebin.org/159628
[12:52] <teetasse> need to find out how to pm in irssi
[12:52] <gry> teetasse: /query nick message here
[12:52] <hammoommah> image bin is a great tool :)
[12:53] <dr_willis> hammoommah,  and the reason for the complex setup is what exactly?
[12:53] <dnivra> Hello. Is there a typing tutor application that supports the Dvorak layout?
[12:53] <teetasse> gry: thx
[12:53] <hammoommah> i thought that was pretty simple lol what would you suggest
[12:53] <jeru-zw> haven't found any useful info about getting my Canon MG5240 printer/scanner...etc. working under ubuntu
[12:53] <jeru-zw> PLEASE HELP
[12:53] <KanocX> does someone know, why vino only listen on ipv6? (ubuntu 10.04)
[12:54] <dr_willis> jeru-zw,  for the scanner end.. check the SANE homepage to see if its supported.
[12:54] <dr_willis> !scanner
[12:54] <bazhang> jeru-zw, linuxprinting.org for the printer
[12:55] <dr_willis> yea - im not sure the cups.org site mentions canon.  but it might have some info also.
[12:55] <dr_willis> I learned to not buy canon any more if i want decent linux support.
[12:56] <compdoc> the world is not ready for ipv6
[12:56] <jeru-zw> dr_willis, bazhang... so there's nothing like apt-get install all-in-one-canon-driver
[12:56] <jeru-zw> darn
[12:56] <jeru-zw> okay thanks, let me check those websites
[12:56] <dr_willis> jeru-zw,  you are lucky if the thing even has support at all.. :)
[12:57] <dr_willis> Ive had very bad luck with canon and linux
[12:57] <Guest47992> HI all! how can i draw a Picture (.png) onto my Desktop (-Wallpaper) which automatically updates every so often?
[12:57] <Guest47992> I want to follow a webcam
[12:57] <dr_willis> Guest47992,  you could write a script that pulls in an image, then sets it with one of the many wallpaper commands..
[12:58] <Guest47992> dr_willis, i dont want it to take my whole Desktop-Background
[12:58] <dr_willis> there are some autiomated wallpaper changers that might allready do that.   but i never use them any more.. played with some about 2 yrs ago
[12:58] <dr_willis> Guest47992,  there are 'gadgets/gizmos/widigits' you can use on yoru desktop.
[12:59] <dr_willis> google gadgets, opera has them also. I think theres gdesklets. and proberly 4+ other ways to do it
[12:59] <hammoommah> @dr willis would this work better? http://imagebin.org/159629
[13:00] <jeru-zw> my brother in law wouldn't shut up about linux so finally i installed it on my laptop and desktops, crappy thing is my phones, cameras and printer aren't supported
[13:00] <jeru-zw> guess i should have set up a dual boot
[13:01] <dr_willis> most cameras should work as usb storage devices...
[13:01] <gry> !info desktopnova
[13:01] <dr_willis> not sure what 'phone' support wouild be :)
[13:01] <gry> Guest47992: ^^^ see what ubottu said
[13:02] <hammoommah> @dr willis  only reason i thought of first setup was for wiring, where my adslmodem sits i can have 6 cords running up wall :(
[13:02] <Guest47992> gry, again.. i dont want to have it on all my screen
[13:02] <jeru-zw> dr_willis i usually sync my sms, mms and email messages between my phones and computers
[13:03] <sammmy> is there anyway to get suspend to work with a wubi installation, or is it not possible?
[13:03] <dr_willis> hammoommah,  i just go   modem -> router  ----- bunch of pc;s and a branch off to  a switch/hub  -- then more pcs    - keeping it simple
[13:03] <dr_willis> sammmy,  im not sure its possible..   it may need a actual swap partition.
[13:04] <gry> Guest47992: I suspect that tool changes just the wallpaper, is that what you want?
[13:04] <jeru-zw> nokia and lg phones
[13:04] <Guest47992> gry, it is not
[13:04] <sammmy> dr_willis, doesn't suspend just work off the ram?
[13:04] <dbugger> why is "keytool" telling me that keystore doesnt exist? :(
[13:05] <Guest47992> gry, i want to have an image drawn ONTO my Desktop..
[13:05] <gry> Guest47992: sorry, what does it do that you don't want?
[13:05] <dr_willis> sammmy,  they alwasy seem to be changeing the names...  I can never which  one is  'to ram' and what one is 'to hard drive'
[13:05] <Guest47992> gry, i only want to follow a Webcam which updates every so often
[13:06] <hammoommah> hmmm good idea, can you tell me when using server/virtual client setup is any computing done client side or is it all done on server? is video processing done server side or client side?
[13:06] <dr_willis> hammoommah,  i imagine it depedns on the server/client setup.
[13:06] <Guest47992> gry, and i want that picture to be refreshed automatically without opening it every time
[13:06] <gry> Guest47992: it'd be an image in front of the desktop icons, then? (not exactly a wallpaper, is that correct?)
[13:06] <Stava> When installing tiger, is cron enabled by default? Also how do I read the reports?
[13:07] <admgy22> hi guys - how would I find any .git repositories on the whole system please?
[13:07] <hammoommah> ubuntu 11.04 server with virtual clients linked booting over network cards
[13:07] <dr_willis> gry,  sounds like he wants one of those picture-frame widgits :)
[13:07] <gry> admgy22: "locate" command
[13:07] <admgy22> gry: I'm a very new user, coudl you be more specific please?
[13:07] <admgy22> gry: like, what is the exact command?
[13:07] <admgy22> gry: please
[13:08] <dr_willis> admgy22,    locate .git   -> finds all files with .git in the name.
[13:08] <gry> admgy22: install catfish for good file search - it's the package name
[13:08] <dr_willis> !info catfish
[13:08] <dr_willis> a front end to locate and find both. ? that could bne handy
[13:08] <admgy22> dr_willis: would I have to 'sudo locate .git' or is locate good for anyone?
[13:08] <Guest47992> gry, ok its the following Picture:
[13:08] <dr_willis> admgy22,  you ONLY need sudo to do 'system wide/config type tasks'
[13:08] <gry> admgy22: yes, users don't have access to some directories, so running it as root would be good idea
[13:09] <Guest47992> gry, http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/mesomikro/stadt/temp.png that i want to follow
[13:09] <dr_willis> admgy22,  your git stuff is hidden somewhere? or un the users home dirs? or where?
[13:09] <gry> admgy22: (for example on some systems users can't read other users' files)
[13:09] <Guest47992> gry, i want to have it sitting right on my Desktop
[13:09] <admgy22> dr_willis: I understand
[13:09] <gry> admgy22: if you search only for yourself, though, you don't need sudo
[13:09] <sammmy> dr_willis, suspend is to ram, while hibernate is to drive.
[13:09] <dr_willis> sammmy,  i seem to recall the terms 'suspend to ram and suspend to disk' used in the past also.. :)
[13:09] <gry> Guest47992: like wallpaper ?
[13:10] <dr_willis> or 'sleep and suspend'  or... ect.. :)
[13:10] <admgy22> dr_willis: yes, it's "hidden" in that I can't find it!
[13:10] <admgy22> dr_willis: last guy who did all the development left on bad terms
[13:10] <dr_willis> admgy22,  locate filename       if you have a clue to the filename
[13:10] <admgy22> dr_willis: this is the exact thing he wrote (1 min) about this:
[13:10] <Guest47992> gry, no.. just like a Picture.. even Window-framed would be ok
[13:10] <gry> Guest47992: ah
[13:10] <dr_willis> !info gdesklets
[13:11] <dr_willis> the whole desktop-widgit  idea seems to be getting to be a passing fad. :)
[13:11] <sl33k_> where is the public log of this chan?
[13:11] <Guest47992> gry, i once had this set up.. but i cant remember how i did that ;)
[13:11] <gry> dr_willis: link please ? :\ don't want to do a fail search myself if you already know that! :-)
[13:12] <dr_willis> gry,  link tio which? theres several widgits for  the desktop. I dont use any - any more either. :)
[13:12] <gry> sl33k_: irclogs.ubuntu.com
[13:12] <gry> dr_willis: to some sort of a list then please. I'm clueless here myself
[13:13] <admgy22> dr_willis:  "version control was hosted as a bare Git repository on the [...] server. It is currently not running this way because I was halfway through setting up Gitosis (which I highly recommend, by the way). \p This was done under the expectation that we would be ramping up development"
[13:13] <dr_willis> admgy22,  so no idea on the git name or anything else. eww.. I dont use git enough to even begin to offer suggestions.
[13:14] <admgy22> dr_willis: that's the email I got.  Based on that (and the guy has left suddenly and is being totally uncooperative, and I just found out he tarred up and downloaded our (competitively very valuable) server logs right before leaving)..
[13:14] <admgy22> dr_willis: so based on that... where would you look for version history?  To give you an idea, at the moment I see files and no versioning of any kind
[13:15] <dr_willis> I dont have near enough git experience to help. Ive only used it the most casual ways
[13:15] <admgy22> anyone else here?
[13:15] <rhin01> just as a matter of interest -- compiz fusion -- one of those things that it is assumed everyone wants -- so it's turned on -- it has caused my system major problems all over the place -- system hanging -- virtual desktops don't work -- x2x failing - slow -- I turned it off and I didn't notice anything apart from my system running ok again -- what the hell is compiz fusion?
[13:16] <admgy22> by the way does "20110104.123925.590510058.3696" look like a directory produced by versioning to you?
[13:16] <admgy22> it's on the active system
[13:16] <rhin01> maybe my graphics card isn't beefy enough to drive it (probably) people say a gpu hog
[13:16] <rhin01> compiz fusion has caused me major problems
[13:16] <sammmy> so even though ram has nothing to do with the hard drive, there's no way to suspend to ram with a wubi install?
[13:16] <rhin01> all that for a bit of eye candy
[13:16] <dr_willis> admgy22,  ithere may be a Git speficic  channel
[13:16] <rhin01> can anyone hear me in here?
[13:17] <Dragon[ITA]> hmm
[13:17] <dr_willis> rhin01,  Hmm?
[13:17] <rhin01> ok thanks just thought was in a mode or set with a mode thanks dr_willis
[13:17] <dr_willis> compiz is on by default - its used by unity.. rhin01
[13:17] <rhin01> dr_willis it's caused my system to lock several times
[13:17] <compdoc> I hear about Compiz a lot in here, bu6t never knew what it was before now
[13:17] <rhin01> its caused problems iwth remote desktops with x2x --
[13:17] <admgy22> dr_willis: thanks I'm trying #git
[13:17] <dr_willis> rhin01,   it can depend ion your video chiopset also
[13:17] <rhin01> ok
[13:18] <rhin01> i've wasted a day because this thing called compiz which doesn't actually do anything is installed by default
[13:19] <compdoc> Compiz is a compositing manager, which means that it enhances the overall user interaction by adding fancy effects to your windows, from drop shadows to awesome desktop effects like the Desktop Cube or the Expo view.  <- doesnt sound useful
[13:19] <rhin01> I know this -- but it also is a resource hog -- it will kill and even hang up low level gpus
[13:19] <dr_willis> rhin01,  it is used by default by unity. so it does do somthing.. its the default window manager for UNITY
[13:19] <rhin01> I never noticed any effects
[13:20] <Dragon[ITA]> o.o
[13:20] <rhin01> all I noticed was teh PAIN of my system hanging and random things to do with graphics going wrong
[13:20] <rhin01> compiz fusion introduced the only problems I have ever had with ubuntu (major)
[13:20] <dr_willis> the next release i hear compuiz will be used by unity-2d and work for other non-3d acell setuos
[13:21] <dr_willis> rhin01,  and whats your video chipset?
[13:21] <rhin01> not sure
[13:21] <rhin01> how do I find that out -- tell me and I will get back to you
[13:21] <ntkm> i am using ubuntu 10.04.can i use unity on it?
[13:21] <dr_willis> so you have no idea if you have installed the proper 3d drivers.. that would greatly enhance your unity/compiz experience. :)
[13:21] <gry> !info unity
[13:22] <rhin01> I don't want a 'unitiz/compiz' 'experience'
[13:22] <dr_willis> rhin01,  run the  jockey-gtk tool to see if any drivers are reccomended
[13:22] <gry> rhin01: then just don't use it
[13:22] <rhin01> NVIDIA accelarated graphics driver installed
[13:22] <dr_willis> dont worry about it then.. have fun.
[13:22] <gry> ntkm: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/unity - so that's a ys I guess
[13:23] <gry> yes*
[13:23] <dr_willis> unity in maverick is not the same as the one in natty i belive.
[13:23] <ntkm> thank you
[13:23] <dr_willis> unless they did some backporting.
[13:23]  * pappa_bear_ grumbles... and says goodmorning.
[13:24] <beginer> pappa_bear_, haha, nice nick
[13:24] <beginer> oooh
[13:25] <_bear> uhhh
[13:25] <Bartzy|work> Where "scp -t" flag (and the rest of the "remote side" flags) is documented ? I'm not seeing it in 'man scp'.
[13:26] <dr_willis> Bartzy|work,  scp is supposed to work virtually identical to the way cp works.. it might be the same as what the cp -t flag does.. (whatever that is...)
[13:27] <Bartzy|work> dr_willis: I don't think so :|
[13:27] <rhin01> ok -- how can I be completely sure compiz fusion is disabled in 11.04 -- the "visual effects" tab in system->appearance is no longer there -- people saying elsewhere that selecting "classic desktop (no effects)" only disables the unity desktop -- it doesn't disable compiz fusion - I want it gone
[13:27] <dr_willis> thats what i recall from the scp guides ive read in the past at least. :)
[13:27] <rhin01> system->preferences->appearance
[13:28] <dr_willis> rhin01,  run 'metacity --replace' is one way
[13:28] <rhin01> ok
[13:29] <podzinja> How do i add new items to the panel in the new ubuntu?
[13:30] <dr_willis> Bartzy|work,  checking the man page - it mentions  options detailed in the   see ssh_config(5).      but im not sure what -t would even be for
[13:30] <podzinja> Is it possible to add items to the panel? Like in the old ubuntu?
[13:30] <gry> podzinja: right click, "add"
[13:30] <gry> podzinja: wfm in 11.04
[13:30] <Bartzy|work> dr_willis: scp -t is what gets executed on the remote side on every SCP you make.
[13:30] <podzinja> i right click panel, but i nothing happens now
[13:30] <rhin01> compiz is slowing down any systme IMO
[13:30] <podzinja> im on 11.04
[13:31] <dr_willis> Bartzy|work,  not seeint that mentioned at all then.
[13:31] <dr_willis> podzinja,  if an icon is on the panel. you can right clcik and pin it to the panel
[13:31] <podzinja> but no more widgets like before?
[13:31] <Bartzy|work> dr_willis: What ?
[13:32] <podzinja> i mean the top panel
[13:32] <dr_willis> Bartzy|work,  im googling all over for 'scp -t' and not finding any mention of it.
[13:32] <dr_willis> podzinja,  top panel - is very very locked down.
[13:32] <podzinja> so no more tomboy notes and other stuff on top panel..
[13:32] <podzinja> why?
[13:32] <dr_willis> podzinja,  you can get differnt indicator applets that go in the top panel.
[13:33] <podzinja> and where can i change workspace count
[13:33] <dr_willis> but the normaly  zoo of applets has been culled back
[13:33] <dr_willis> theres indicator applets for that podzinja  check askubuntu.com for a list of them all that exist
[13:33] <Bartzy|work> dr_willis: http://blogs.oracle.com/janp/entry/how_the_scp_protocol_works
[13:34] <wrek-gar> has anyone ever set up an a.p.?
[13:34] <gry> wrek-gar: Suppose someone in this channel did, yes. :-)
[13:34] <wrek-gar> any idea on how to set it up on a desktop?
[13:35] <dr_willis> Bartzy|work,  so that just says -t = 'to'      :) im not seeing it mentiond in any of the otehr docs ive seen
[13:35] <thegoodcushion> Anyone got an idea for software that will let me create a study guide?  I don't want a calendar because I want it to be flexible
[13:35] <dr_willis> Bartzy|work,    These options are for internal usage only and aren't documented.    heh..
[13:35] <asdjaputra> PythonSnake, hey sorry i got disconnected
[13:35] <Bartzy|work> dr_willis: Heh.. too bad, they're VERY useful for security :p
[13:36] <wrek-gar> gry, ?
[13:36] <asdjaputra> please invite me to the channel
[13:36] <PythonSnake> ??
[13:36] <avinashhm> Hi , how to search packages having both words vim, pdf .. ( tried apt-cache search 'vim & pdf' .. didn't work .. any help pls
[13:36] <rice> Hello, my vim in my ubuntu is in version 7.2, how can i upgrade it into 7.3
[13:36] <asdjaputra> avinashhm, apt-cache search vim pdf
[13:36] <dr_willis> rice,  via ppa - would be the best route
[13:37] <thegoodcushion> !ppa
[13:37] <avinashhm> asdfasdfa, thanks man .. works like a charm
[13:37] <wrek-gar> gry, still there?
[13:37] <rice> thx
[13:37] <gry> wrek-gar: yes
[13:38] <wrek-gar> gry, any idea on how to configure an a.p.?
[13:39] <Dragon[ITA]> hmm?
[13:39] <gry> wrek-gar: Me and this channel are different, while I may have no idea on what an a.p. is, this channel is likely to know; please stand by.
[13:39] <dr_willis> Animated Puppet?
[13:39] <wrek-gar> access point
[13:40] <wrek-gar> wireless access point
[13:40] <dr_willis> network manager should have stuff in it.  :)
[13:40] <gry> wrek-gar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[13:40] <wrek-gar> not for a.p.
[13:40] <djBoLoN> connecting to it through its ip wrek-gar
[13:40] <dr_willis> thats how i set up  my ad-hoc network yesterday to my phone. and to my router...  theres a 3 wireless method?
[13:40] <wrek-gar> ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_PRISM2_PARAM]: Function not implemented
[13:40] <wrek-gar>  - outputs this failure under hostapd
[13:41] <dipankar> hi all
[13:41] <dr_willis> so this is an ad-hoc network then? or am i confuseing terms?
[13:41] <gry> wrek-gar: what's that output for? what's your input?
[13:41] <teetasse> PythonSnake: asdfasdfa will make a new channeö
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:42] <PythonSnake> teetasse
[13:42] <zelhar> Hello. I need help enabling unity
[13:42] <wrek-gar> hostapd -d /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf
[13:42] <dr_willis> zelhar,  you got the proper 3d video drivers installed and going yet?
[13:42] <dipankar> I am a beginner in developer side of ubuntu. Need help with user authentication process
[13:43] <dipankar> I am thinking of authenticating user from a server each time a user enter details in the login screen of ubuntu.
[13:43] <dipankar> Any help where to start with?
[13:43] <zelhar> anyone ?
[13:44] <wrek-gar> gry, hostapd -d /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf
[13:44] <dr_willis> dipankar,  why are you doing this? sounds like its proberly alrleady been done in one way or another...
[13:44] <dr_willis> zelhar,  you got the proper 3d video drivers installed and going yet? what is your video chipset?
[13:44] <dr_willis> !ldap
[13:45] <dr_willis> Isent that what ldap does?  a main server that handles the  login and other features?
[13:45] <zelhar> I have a new Radeon HD6570 and the 3d driver is still enabled from my old HD3650
[13:47] <dr_willis> zelhar,  run jockey-gtk and see what driver it reccommends and if its active or not.
[13:47] <book1> z
[13:48] <djBoLoN> before i try ,can i hot plug in a 2nd monitor,iḿ on unity ?
[13:48] <dirtycookie> hello people, i just installed xubuntu freshly and i have a resolution problem. my monitor can do max 1280x1024 but xubuntu detected 1024x768 max
[13:48] <dirtycookie> how can i add more resolutions manually?
[13:48] <jking2> hi friends, i've installed xfce4 following the installation metapackage avaiable in the software center, and then I tried to unistalled it by the same way but a lot of xfce4 packages did not go away, is there a command in the terminal that will let me uninstall all the packages that have the xfce4 in it's name?
[13:48] <zelhar> it says I already have fglrx activated
[13:48] <nopz___> I have an rsyslog rule and I want to discard any mesasge bellow the rule, so that way it's not in /var/log/syslog. Anyone knows how to do that ?
[13:49] <impulse9> hi, after upgrading my ubuntu from 10 to 11, my super key stopped working
[13:49] <impulse9> shortcuts like super+e, super+n don't work anymore
[13:49] <impulse9> is there a way to fix this?
[13:50] <book1> i can not enter password in update-manager to install updates. auth window appears and dissapears shaking( like i entered not correct password). how can i fix it?
[13:51] <kinano> hey everyone
[13:51] <book1> software-center is the same
[13:51] <kinano> having problems with upgrading to 11.04, can someone help?
[13:51] <BlouBlou> kinano: what kind of problems?
[13:52] <zelhar> Since I installed "unity" When I log in to Ubuntu there are no menu bars, no launcher, and alt-F2 doesn't work, so what should I do ?
[13:52] <Mandrew> hello if i dont install the restricted extra at install and want to do that later, how do i do that later?
[13:52] <kinano> bloublou: hey, when the upgrade manager downloads the packages, two files throw erros
[13:52] <kinano> "size mismatch"
[13:52] <BlouBlou> zelhar: unistall drivers, reboot, install nouveau, reboot again and done
[13:52] <BlouBlou> nouveau = experimental ones
[13:53] <book1>  i can not enter password in update-manager to install updates. auth window appears and dissapears shaking( like i entered not correct password). how can i fix it? maybe this happen cause i ve changed some permissions in /usr
[13:54] <zelhar> OK I'm gonna try this
[13:54] <zelhar> thank
[13:54] <zelhar> thanks
[13:54] <dr_willis> book1,  you are using your initially made user? can that user do 'sudo -s' from a terminal?
[13:55] <jking2> hi friends, i've installed xfce4 following the installation metapackage avaiable in the software center, and then I tried to unistalled it by the same way but a lot of xfce4 packages did not go away, is there a command in the terminal that will let me uninstall all the packages that have the xfce4 in it's name?
[13:55] <book1> dr_willis:  yes. gksudo update-manager works properly too
[13:55] <dr_willis> book1,  thats weird.
[13:55] <dr_willis> !puregnome
[13:56] <dipankar> dr_willis, I am trying to make a central access system on my small network
[13:56] <dr_willis> jking2,  it can be difficult to remove all taht stuff. its just how they use meta-packages tio pull in the whold desktop
[13:56] <dr_willis> jking2,  the url above may help.
[13:56] <dipankar> dr_willis, I want to authenticate users from server end, not on the client end kept in each room
[13:57] <dr_willis> dipankar,  i thought that was one of the features of LDAP.
[13:57] <kinano> so any ideas?
[13:57] <dipankar> dr_willis, I just went through LDAP.
[13:57] <book1> dr_willis: i have default ubuntu-desktop
[13:57] <dr_willis> kinano,  try from a differmt mirror perhaps? could be the servers are getting updated, or have bad packages
[13:57] <dipankar> dr_willis, can LDAP be customized too?
[13:57] <kinano> dr_willis: i tried that
[13:58] <kinano> same problem
[13:58] <dr_willis> dipankar,  no idea. Ive never used it.
[13:58] <dr_willis> I imagine it can.. :) everthing else can be customuized to some degree
[13:58] <jking2> dr_willis: I'll try that, but the thing is that I installed xfce4 not xubuntu, but this "meta command" should work! Thanks!
[13:59] <dr_willis> jking2,  xubuntu = ubuntu with xcfe.
[13:59] <drose> hey guys I'm a gentoo guy with a HP netbook that won't boot
[13:59] <dr_willis> jking2,  xubuntu-desktop is a meta-package that pulls in all needed files for the whole xubuntu setup
[13:59] <jking2> dr_willis: I know that ;)
[13:59] <mrdeb> is 1104 a lot faster with more than 512 ram
[13:59] <drose> how on earth do you debug this distro?
[13:59] <dr_willis> mrdeb,  more ram is always good..
[14:00] <jrib> drose: #gentoo
[14:00] <mrdeb> dr_willis: not always i need to know about 512 and over
[14:00] <drose> sorry
[14:00] <dr_willis> mrdeb,  for ubuntu - more then 512 would be a boon...
[14:00] <drose> I'm a gentoo guy with a HP netbook that won't boot *ubuntu*
[14:00] <dipankar> dr_willis, I agree with that. But LDAP needs a session  to be started. I was thinking of modifying the login, so that authentication can be verified at the startup itself.
[14:00] <drose> which means I dunno what to do :)
[14:00] <gry> drose: what distro is the netbook running
[14:00] <dr_willis> i would say 1gb over 512 would be a big beinfit.
[14:01] <drose> 11. ummm?
[14:01] <jking2> dr_willis: I just wish that if the meta package lets you install all the other packages it will let you uninstall them as well.
[14:01] <dipankar> drose, can you explain a bit.
[14:01] <nopz___> I have an rsyslog rule and I want to discard any mesasge bellow the rule, so that way it's not in /var/log/syslog. Anyone knows how to do that ?
[14:01] <dr_willis> once you start hitting swap partition..  thats where the slow down happens.
[14:01] <mrdeb> how can it help if the system ising using more htan 200mb
[14:01] <mrdeb> it has 300 free
[14:01] <dipankar> drose, what did you do last after which your computer didn't boot?
[14:01] <dr_willis> jking2,  thats the deal with meta-packages,,. its a bit of a work around a complex probolem with no good answer,.'
[14:01] <drose> it stops booting with red and white dots.
[14:01] <dr_willis> mrdeb,  untill you start doing some real work
[14:02] <sudeep> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu flash video player, whenever i try to play any online video like yoputube, the video runs at fast speed, and also i no sound is there, how could i rectify it please help, i am running ubuntu 11.04 , prior it was working fine, just someday this happened, i dont know why
[14:02] <mrdeb> but until then does it help or not
[14:02] <drose> if I boot in recovery mode it runs until it says that
[14:02] <drose> it's stopping the firewall
[14:02] <dr_willis> mrdeb,  with yoru logic.. would it be help or not if the system has any ram at all... :)
[14:02] <dipankar> drose, which version of ubuntu? 11.04?
[14:03] <dr_willis> mrdeb,  it helps running apps run smoother.. if nothing is running..
[14:03] <Benkinooby> asdfasdfa, what was our channel again?
[14:03] <drose> mrdeb you need more than 512Mb RAM if you want to run firefox or something equally hungry.
[14:03] <mrdeb> but does ti help if you get close to 512 only or even if not
[14:03] <dr_willis> once You hit swap partiton.. you  have just put on the breaks...
[14:03] <drose> yes i just checked
[14:03] <drose> 11.04
[14:03] <mrdeb> there is no swap
[14:04] <sudeep>  hi, i have a problem with ubuntu flash video player, whenever i try to play any online video like yoputube, the video runs at fast speed, and also i no sound is there, how could i rectify it please help, i am running ubuntu 11.04 , prior it was working fine, just someday this happened, i dont know why
[14:04] <dipankar> sundeep, have you tried uninstalling and installing firefox again?
[14:04] <sudeep> no the problem also occurs with google chrome
[14:04] <GeekMan> im trying to run clamscan using cron    i type crontab        in the editor i type 0,0,*,*,1 /usr/bin/clamscan -v -r /srv      it returns    "/tmp/crontab.eKm6SW/crontab":1: bad hour
[14:04] <GeekMan> errors in crontab file, can't install
[14:04] <kinano> dr_willis: here's the error "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libp/libproxy/libproxy0_0.3.1-2ubuntu5_i386.deb Size mismatch
[14:04] <kinano> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libp/libproxy/python-libproxy_0.3.1-2ubuntu5_all.deb Size mismatch
[14:04] <drose> if there's no swap then when you hit 511Mb RAM or so, the system will just close programs
[14:04] <kinano> "
[14:04] <jrib> !cron | GeekMan
[14:05] <jrib> GeekMan: you don't use commas...
[14:05] <dipankar> drose, so you can see the grub menu, but can't get past the boot screen, right?
[14:05] <snkr> Anybody has any idea when libreoffice 3.4 will be added to ubuntu repository?
[14:05] <sudeep> dipankar the problem also occurs in google chrome
[14:05] <GeekMan> oh?
[14:05] <mrdeb> snkr: in 1110 probably
[14:05] <drose> yes
[14:05] <rinkukokiri> anyone have experience with laptop LCD display inverters?
[14:05] <drose> thanks dipankar
[14:05] <GeekMan> so then i would use 0 0 * * 1
[14:05] <bazhang> rinkukokiri, hardware?
[14:05] <dr_willis> close programs.. or crash badly. :)
[14:06] <drose> typical
[14:06] <dipankar> sudeep, what about other browsers? are they behaving the same?
[14:06] <rinkukokiri> bazhang, asked, they are  not responding to my question
[14:06] <bazhang> rinkukokiri, ##hardware and be patient
[14:06] <drose> now it's changed; last text is
[14:06] <GeekMan> THANKS :P
[14:06] <rinkukokiri> bazhang, ASKED and they IGNORED ME
[14:06] <sudeep> dipankar, I have chrome and firefox, both behaving like this
[14:06] <bazhang> rinkukokiri, #ubuntu-offtopic then
[14:07]  * rinkukokiri facepalms
[14:07] <snkr> mrdeb: can i upgrade my libreofice in 10.04 from apt?
[14:07] <mrdeb> snkr: probably
[14:07] <drose> "Skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/disable: usr.bin.firefox       [OK]
[14:07] <dipankar> drose, can you check this out: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-boot-ubuntu-linux-rescue-mode/
[14:07] <mrdeb> use the ppa if u need 2
[14:07] <user__> hi
[14:07] <drose> i have xp with inverters
[14:07] <dipankar> drose, I am not sure though, this option is still available on 11.04
[14:08] <dipankar> sudeep, do you have adobe flash player installed?
[14:08] <snkr> mrdeb: but the current libreoffice ppa doesn't seem to have 3.4 (it says your libreoffice is up to date)
[14:08] <drose> there is no cdrom drive in this
[14:08] <drose> it won't boot from USB either.
[14:09] <sudeep> dipankar, yes it is installed , because the videos were running fine couple of days ago, just from yesterday this is happening, i dont understand what might have caused this
[14:09] <mrdeb> snkr: which one the ubuntu or you added the libre ppa separately
[14:09] <drose> i mean it will
[14:09] <dipankar> drose, how did you install in first place? :P
[14:09] <drose> but it wont boot11.04
[14:09] <dipankar> ohk
[14:09] <drose> i didn't it's not mine
[14:09] <_ting_> hi
[14:09] <_ting_> could anyone help me?
[14:09] <drose> but it can boot win7 or sysrescuecd okay
[14:09] <_ting_> is in linux any limitation for the app to get a maximum virutal memory ?
[14:09] <admgy22> hi - what's in /usr/src normally?
[14:10] <_ting_> I am trying to run one app that has to process a lot of date
[14:10] <drose> _ting_ your app needs to be 64-bit to address more than, um, i forget.....
[14:10] <snkr> mrdeb: i added  the ppa with "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa" in ubuntu 10.04
[14:10] <siavoshkc> _ting_: ok
[14:10] <drose> admgy22 source code for stuff that needs it
[14:11] <admgy22> drose: it's not where our own application's source code would be kept, is it?
[14:11] <dipankar> sudeep, can you try removing and installing adobe flash player again?
[14:11] <drose> not usually
[14:11] <_ting_> but when the app get 920mb of memory, the app get into a unitenruptible and sync_page waiting channel
[14:11] <drose> code that other things need
[14:11] <sudeep> dipankar hmm, ok
[14:11] <mads-> Can I make a bash script that only copies files in a directory and not the directories?
[14:11] <Guest89499> niko
[14:11] <_ting_> so i have some virtual memory limit?
[14:11] <_ting_> my physical memory consumption is low
[14:11] <sudeep> dipankar, i will do it , lets see
[14:12] <drose> for example the video driver modules want the source code for the kernel.  That's where they look
[14:12] <Guest89499> where can i find the persian room
[14:12] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ir Guest89499
[14:12] <jrib> mads-: sure
[14:12] <admgy22> it has this stuff in it: agentzh-headers-more-nginx-module-(numbers), masterzen-gninx-upload-progress-module(numbers) and same iwth different (numbers) nginx nginx-0.7.67 and then a lot more nginx versions, nginx_upload_module_(number) with two different numbers, and then one uwsgi-0.9.6.2
[14:12] <drose> mads- try not using -r
[14:12] <admgy22> would any of that be our stuff?
[14:12] <dipankar> hey, someone help me out too! :P Is there any way I bypass the default gnome login and introduce a server authentication at login?
[14:13] <drose> How can one debug a non-booting ubuntu install?  Can I avoid loading drivers somehow?
[14:13] <admgy22> I'm looking for the code to our application on this live server
[14:13] <jrib> drose: how did you install?
[14:13] <drose> dipankar what server do you want to auth against?
[14:14] <kinano> i get the following error when i try to upgrade to 11.04
[14:14] <drose> jrib someone else did
[14:14] <Guest89499> where is persian room
[14:14] <kinano> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libp/libproxy/libproxy0_0.3.1-2ubuntu5_i386.deb Size mismatch
[14:14] <Guest89499> ?
[14:14] <kinano> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libp/libproxy/python-libproxy_0.3.1-2ubuntu5_all.deb Size mismatch
[14:14] <kinano> any idea why?
[14:14] <jrib> drose: how did that person install?
[14:14] <djBoLoN> #ubuntu-ir Guest89499
[14:14] <drose> probably by usb
[14:14] <jrib> drose: ask?
[14:14] <dipankar> drose, I am trying to make a central access system. So I am trying to run a script that will check the user credentials at the server end on a network, rather than on the systm
[14:15] <OldFarter> hey
[14:15] <OldFarter> whats up about 32bit version being recomended
[14:15] <BlouBlou> OldFarter: if you don't know what to choose, select it, so it will work in all computers
[14:15] <jrib> OldFarter: if your hardware supports 64bit, use it
[14:16] <dipankar> OldFarter, most systems still have 32bit support, so 32bit recommended
[14:16] <OldFarter> well its a new i3 m380 processor
[14:16] <drose> dipankar you mean like samba?
[14:16] <OldFarter> this one is 64bit i think?
[14:17] <DDD> where is persian room?
[14:17] <mads-> #ubuntu-pervs
[14:17] <OldFarter> what about 4gb ram with 32bit how does that work?
[14:17] <drose> How can one debug a non-booting ubuntu install?  Can I avoid loading modules somehow?
[14:18] <drose> OF you lose some because of the video allocation, try googlr.
[14:18] <bazhang> OldFarter, with linux-generic-pae yes
[14:18] <DDD> l
[14:18] <dipankar> drose, nope. Those require to start the service. I want to send the credentials and get them checked at the server for access (where a group of large number of user credentials will be stored)
[14:18] <PiX3L> How can I configure my Ubuntu 10.10 for supporting Home theater 2.1 support?
[14:18] <jophish_> hi all
[14:18] <DDD> where is persian room
[14:18] <DDD> ?
[14:18] <jophish_> I'd like to use gcc 4.6 or 4.7 on ubuntu 10.04
[14:18] <dipankar> drose, I might be a bit confused myself.
[14:18] <PiX3L> How can I configure my Ubuntu 10.10 for supporting Home theater 2.1?*
[14:18] <bazhang> ddd #ubuntu-ir
[14:18] <jophish_> What's the ebst way of doing this?
[14:19] <jophish_> I'm compiling it from source at the moment
[14:19] <ultrixx> OldFarter: still there?
[14:19] <jophish_> but installing from a binary would be much better
[14:19] <OldFarter> yes
[14:19] <dipankar> sudeep, did that work?
[14:19] <OldFarter> trying to figure out to do
[14:19] <ultrixx> OldFarter: if you have an i3 you should certainly use 64 bit if you have 4gb or more ram installed
[14:19] <kinano> upgrade to 11.04 fails - i receive error when downloading packages (Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libp/libproxy/libproxy0_0.3.1-2ubuntu5_i386.deb Size mismatch
[14:19] <jophish_> adding debian sid to my sources.list adds gcc4.6, btu has too many conflicts
[14:19] <kinano> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libp/libproxy/python-libproxy_0.3.1-2ubuntu5_all.deb Size mismatch) can someone help please?
[14:20] <Drake|> Hey. when i run df -h I see that one of my disks are full. but even if I move files away. it still shows as full..
[14:20] <ultrixx> OldFarter: i3 can still work in 32 bit mode and will run 32 bit ubuntu of course.
[14:20] <Drake|> and i can't create even a folder cos it sais oo disk space
[14:20] <OldFarter> ofcourse
[14:21] <ultrixx> OldFarter: but in 32 bit mode you will not be able to address all of your memory. so in 32 bit you will see 3 or 3.5 gb ram and not more
[14:21] <drose> drake somespaceisreserved for root
[14:21] <OldFarter> well does ubuntu have a official mirror list
[14:21] <OldFarter> i am looking for chinese mirror
[14:21] <drose> you can't  get it normal until it's more than 5% free
[14:21] <gry> !mirrors
[14:21] <ultrixx> OldFarter: yes on ubuntu homepage
[14:21] <ultrixx> there is a list
[14:22] <OldFarter> if i download from outside of china the speed is like that of dialup
[14:22] <Pici> OldFarter: Also https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[14:22] <Drake|> drose:  well i have moved away more than 5% and even so an other disk sais 100% usage but still have 1gb free.
[14:22] <DDD> where is persian room?
[14:23] <PiX3L> How do can I configure Ubuntu 10.10 to support Home Theater 2.1 ? It works great in Windows. I want it to work in Linux as like in Windows.
[14:23] <bazhang> !ir | DDD
[14:23] <bazhang> DDD, /join #ubuntu-ir
[14:24] <Pici> PiX3L: Is "Home Theater 2.1" a program, or something else? Please provide more detail in your question.
[14:25] <PiX3L> Pici: It's a sound system with one woofer.
[14:25] <sudeep> dipankar, rebooting the system, i will check if it works
[14:25] <Pici> PiX3L: So what exactly isn't working?
[14:26] <drose> drake how big isd the 100% disk?
[14:26] <drose> use df-h
[14:26] <drose> How can one debug a non-booting ubuntu install?  Can I avoid loading modules somehow?
[14:26] <PiX3L> Pici: Left right sounds works but it doesn't supports woofer. Doesn't works perfectly as it should be.
[14:26] <Drake|> drose:  1.8T
[14:26] <drose> right
[14:27] <jrib> drose: were you able to determine how the system was installed?
[14:27] <bobberman> Ive got a problem after updating from ubuntu 8.04 to 10.04. I tried installing gitolite and this happend: "No candidate version found for gitolite" any ideas?
[14:28] <drose> by default then 90Gb is reserved for root for when the disk is full
[14:28] <drose> man tune2fs and look for -m
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> drose: add the bootoption:   modulename.blacklist=1
[14:28] <jrib> bobberman: so you already updated and are now on 10.04?
[14:28] <asdjaputra> Benkinooby, hey
[14:28] <Pici> PiX3L: Then it would be best to state that in your question.  You might want to check whether all your outputs are listed in your sound preferences, also running 'alsamixer' on a terminal and make sure that the proper outputs have their volumes high enough and are not muted.
[14:28] <bobberman> jrib: yes
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> drose: that will make modulename  not load at boot, dead handy for Nvidia video chips who don't play nice with nouveau
[14:28] <drose> but when I reduced mine I lost data
[14:29] <Drake|> drose: I think Ive been moving more than 90Gb but ill take some extra to me sure.. ty for the help so far
[14:29] <jrib> bobberman: that package does not seem to exist in lucid
[14:29] <drose> ActionParsnip how do i kjnow what module is troubblesome?
[14:29] <drose> or even if it is a module?
[14:29] <bobberman> but when i use "aptitude search " it finds the package
[14:29] <drose> jrib i don't care how it was installed
[14:29] <jrib> drose: I do.
[14:29] <drose> my working theory is that either
[14:30] <Pici> !enter
[14:30] <drose> the content of the hdd upsets the ubuntu flash boot
[14:30] <OldFarter> 7kbs
[14:30] <OldFarter> holly fk
[14:30] <OldFarter> this download page could use some cleaning up
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> drose: by what is causing the issue, use text booting to help. Do you get a black screen at boot?
[14:30] <OldFarter> maybe use IP geolocation to suggest mirror?
[14:31] <drose> or the firmware's messed up and the ubuntu driver's affected
[14:31] <drose> I've renamed the bc43 and bc43legacy modules.
[14:31] <drose> "Skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/disable: usr.bin.firefox       [OK]
[14:32] <drose> that's the last entry on the text screen
[14:32] <drose> before I renbamed the modules itwas a message about stopping the firewaLL
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> drose: could reboot to the liveCD and rename the files in the internal partitons back
[14:32] <drose> k hangon
[14:33] <drose> thanks btw sysresccd booting now
[14:34] <nckBriz> Perl: Anyone here know how to call javascript funtions from a page in a User Agent class?
[14:34] <Pici> nckBriz: Try asking in #perl
[14:34] <nckBriz> k
[14:35] <_ting_> could anyone point me out to the direction to understand why my app get in pseudo-sleep mode (uninteruptible -- sync_page waiting status) when it get over 900mb of memory ??
[14:35] <_ting_> it is due to the limit of memory for each app in linux?
[14:36] <drose> you could play with the ulimit command
[14:36] <drose> man ulimit
[14:36] <drose> or find a programming channel
[14:36] <drose> maybe ask at the stack overflowsite
[14:36] <drose> website*
[14:36] <bazhang> !enter | drose
[14:36]  * drose apologises
[14:37] <_ting_> thanks drose
[14:37] <_ting_> drose i really appreciate ur help
[14:37] <_ting_> let me check
[14:38] <drose> sometimes you finish saying something, then you think of something extra to add, sorry!
[14:38] <_ting_> (upss my appologize also ton not keep in the same line.)
[14:39] <drose> okay rebooted again.  The last line now is "Skip stopping firewall: ufw (not enabled)"
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> drose: ok not to disasterous, is that where it stops?
[14:40] <drose> yes
[14:40] <thunder1212> hi
[14:40] <drose> just after init-bottom.
[14:41] <thunder1212> i want to install experimental driver in ubuntu 10.04 which provides 3d capabilities for nvidia cards i have refreshed my repos but its not coming there..
[14:41] <diogo_79> hi
[14:42] <bonkos_dog> hi also
[14:42] <diogo_79> how can i add hddtemp to the sensors-applet, the hddtemp dest appear in the sensors
[14:42] <diogo_79> ?
[14:44] <admgy22> newbie Linux question: would "sudo cp /etc/nginx/* ." copy everything (even a directory within /etc/nginx to the working directory?
[14:44] <Sp4rKy> no
[14:44] <Sp4rKy> use cp -r
[14:44] <admgy22> Thanks.
[14:45] <FCdll> hi  i'm trying to install bitlbee    and i'm getting this error   "install: cannot stat `bitlbee': No such file or directory "
[14:45] <Pici> FCdll: How are you trying to install it?
[14:46] <FCdll> i'm following those steps " The installation of Bitlbee is fairly simple, just download the tarball from
[14:46] <FCdll> http://www.bitlbee.org/. Untar it into a temporary directory and change into
[14:46] <FCdll> that directory, then run configure, then make install. Alternatively, most Linux
[14:46] <FCdll> distributions have it packaged.
[14:46] <FCdll> "
[14:46] <FloodBot1> FCdll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:46] <diogo_79> there has a question during install of the lm sensors but i awnser no to the daemon start of hddtemp now i dont know how can i do the configuration again
[14:46] <drose> I love parsnip.
[14:46] <bazhang> FCdll, its in the repos install from there
[14:47] <Pici> FCdll: We have it packaged.  Its in the repositories.
[14:47] <Pici> FCdll: sudo apt-get install bitlbee
[14:47] <thunder1212>  i want to install experimental driver in ubuntu 10.04 which provides 3d capabilities for nvidia cards i have refreshed my repos but its not coming there..
[14:47] <FCdll> pici  :  i have the package    downloaded from the officel site
[14:48] <pqL> hi!!   guys
[14:48] <amalgama> hi.. after the last update, i had no nautilus, neither icons on desktop. Not even a right click on desktop. I reinstalled nautilus and now i can see my folders and files, but the desktop problem persists
[14:48] <amalgama> any ideas?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: what nvidia chip do you use?
[14:48] <Pici> FCdll: Why don't you want to install it from Ubuntu's repository?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: try logging into the gnome classic session
[14:49] <thunder1212> 8400GS
[14:49] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: 8400GS
[14:49] <amalgama> ActionParsnip: i already am in classic (not a fun of the unity thing)
[14:49] <FCdll> pici ; cause i can't get the 3.0.3 version
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     and you'll get the nvidia driver from nvidia. Is this what you desire?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: does it happen as all users?
[14:50] <virgo> Hi, i did start play my avi movie and then closed the program, but audio still plays. How do i stop the audio?
[14:50] <Pici> FCdll: Understood, So how far did you get with the tarball from bitlbee's site?  Use a pastebin if you need to shaer a lot of text.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> virgo: killall pulseaudio
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> virgo: it will restart shortly after
[14:50] <amalgama> ActionParsnip: give me a minute to check...
[14:50] <thunder1212> no
[14:50] <donkeyinspace> ohir , hello , remember yesterday talk about creating a fat16 boot partition, you told me to mount point at /boot but (at least in installation process) using fat16 the only mount points available are /dos and /windows although the usb live mount point is /cdrom so there must be a way to choose other mount points rather than /dos or /windows .can you help me?
[14:50] <virgo> thanks ActionParsnip
[14:51] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: no
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: there is nouveau and nv which can also drive the chip
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: are you after nouveau per chance?
[14:51] <FCdll> i will check it THx
[14:51] <nzo_dialek> merci pour votre aide maniac
[14:52] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: yes nouveau is installed.. i want to install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[14:52] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: from the repos.. but its not there
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: let me search for a ppa
[14:53] <amalgama> ActionParsnip: lol... i didnt have another user, so i tried to create one, i clicked the System>admin>users and groups, and it just wont open
[14:53] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: ok
[14:54] <stmik> welcome...
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: seems its in thelucid proposed repo
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: can you bring up a terminal?
[14:54] <amalgama>  ActionParsnip: yeah
[14:54] <virgo> all my movies are blue with any program i open. How should i fix this?
[14:55] <Guest93092> hi all
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: sudo adduser foo       change foo to a username you want (or you can keep foo ;))
[14:55] <bazhang> virgo, turn off compiz?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> virgo: http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[14:55] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: ok so if i add to my repos 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid repos' will it work
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: its a setting, quite annoying :(
[14:55] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: ok so if i add to my repos 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid proposed' will it work
[14:56] <drose> ActionParsnip, any ideas? I rebooted again, the last line now is "Skip stopping firewall: ufw (not enabled)"
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: you can manage repos in software  centre, there is a simple tick box
[14:56] <donkeyinspace> does anyone know something about  boot partitions
[14:57] <bazhang> donkeyinspace, whats the real question
[14:57] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: but there is no lucid proposed, only lucid partner and lucid partner source
[14:57] <wcuser0923> Hi.  im trying to recover my encrypted home directory and move it to a different disk.  i can mount the disk.  after the initial setup, i was asked to set a passphrase which i didnt.  a dialog box popped up  saying the key would be stored somewhere by default, but I cant remember where, and google doesnt want to tell me.  anyone know it off the top of their head?
[14:57] <amalgama> ActionParsnip: the same problem for all users
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: well now know its the app, not settings
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[14:58] <ohir> donkeyinspace: not much time today. 1) you need to manually format your pen. partinion 1 256MB, physical 1st, at the beginning, type vfat (fat23). Next is partition 2, physical 2nd 128MB for small swap, type swap. Next is partition 3rd, physical 3rd, type linux. There will be your /
[14:58] <amalgama> ActionParsnip: any ideas?? not that i cant live with icons on desktop, but ok, no right click, no folders, irritating !
[14:58] <Bartzy|work> ca      ALL=/etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[14:58] <Bartzy|work> This line in /etc/sudoers means that the user ca can execute only /etc/init.d/apache2 reload , as root ?
[14:58] <amalgama> ActionParsnipwithout*
[14:59] <amalgama> ActionParsnip: without*
[14:59] <italo> alguem pode me ajudar?
[14:59] <drose> amalgama I'd be happy if I had what you have, sheer luxury!
[14:59] <italo> nossa, nunca entrei nisso
[14:59] <ohir> donkeyinspace: your other option is to use grub4dos as described in plenty net howtos.
[14:59] <italo> to apanhando pra caramba
[14:59] <italo> ]socorro
[14:59] <italo> rs
[14:59] <Pici> !br | italo
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: if you run:  nautilus -q     does it restart ok?
[15:00] <amalgama> drose : lol.. give me yours, i ll give you mine
[15:00] <ohir> donkeyinspace: if you do manual partitioning then in installer you need to manually type 1st partition mountpoint as /boot and the third as /
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> drose: I've seen a few bugs with the text you give but not sure on a fix
[15:01] <amalgama> ActionParsnip: amalgama@ubuntu:~$ nautilus -q
[15:01] <amalgama> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[15:01] <amalgama> GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications.
[15:01] <gomaaz2> !pastebin
[15:01] <gry> !pastebin | amalgama
[15:01] <donkeyinspace> bazhang , i tried to install ubuntu but when booting got stucked on motherboard logo. ohir suggested to create a boot partition in fat file system
[15:02] <bazhang> !nickspam > otherBG
[15:02] <otherBG> ubottu:) sorry
[15:02] <netsurf3> amalgama, just looking through that it looks like a botched gtk theme
[15:02] <donkeyinspace> ohir , installer don t let me choose /boot mount point when using fat file system
[15:03] <drose> ActionParsnip do you think I'm stuck then?
[15:03] <Ntemis> hello
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> drose: you're never really stuck, just may take some fixing
[15:03] <teest> test
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> drose: you could take ufw out of the bootup and test
[15:03] <drose> teest we see you
[15:04] <drose> Action by blacklistingit?
[15:04] <amalgama> ActionParsnip , netsurf3 : after the last update, nautilus on terminal was returning an error like gtk_ 2.x and gtk 3.x were both present and blah blah blah.. after the reinstall of nautilus, it was fixed - but not the desktop :(
[15:04] <Ntemis> i have an ubuntu server without desktop. today i was greeted with a firefox update. what i did wrong?
[15:04] <teest> thanks thats all cya
[15:04] <Ntemis> did natty put desktop in it?
[15:04] <jrib> Ntemis: is firefox installed...?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: so you install gnome 3?
[15:04] <Pici> Ntemis: Nothing, its a known problem.. Let me get you a link.
[15:04] <jrib> ah
[15:05] <Ntemis> Pici: thanks
[15:05] <Ntemis> how i remedy this issue?
[15:05] <Ntemis> jrib: without any issues
[15:05] <Pici> Ntemis: It looks like it should be fixed. Just do an apt-get update first.  See http://pad.lv/800857 for details.
[15:05] <netsurf3> amalgama, it sounds like something got messed up during the update and it took some part of GTK with it. there is a utility that verifies installed packages if they have changed from the originals let me see if i can find the name of it
[15:06] <amalgama> ActionParsnip: honestly.. no. I dont know if i did anything stupid by pressing a yes to any dependencies of an app, and not have checked it before or during an installation.
[15:06] <netsurf3> amalgama, its called debsums
[15:07] <netsurf3> link incoming
[15:07] <netsurf3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646925
[15:07] <virgo> my driver window says, that the recommended driver is activated, but not in use. Is this normal?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: that would explain the gtk 3 bits
[15:07] <ohir> donkeyinspace: hm.... could be, there is no softlinks on that
[15:08] <Ntemis> Pici: i am doing it now: apt-get update
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> virgo: recommended driver for what?
[15:08] <virgo> Nvidia
[15:08] <Ang3> o/
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> virgo: and which driver is it?
[15:08] <amalgama> ActionParsnip, netsurf3 : i see in synaptic that gnome 3 is installed. pfff.. do u think an uninstall of gnome 3 would be ok, or would it lead to more problems??
[15:08] <virgo> geforce 9500 recommended driver
[15:08] <Ang3> i'm trying to setup a OpenVPN on my Ubuntu Serv. I got some issue it won't start. Any ideas ?
[15:08] <ohir> donkeyinspace: so follow grub4dos path or check if your box can have bios ubgraded
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: it will need removing as well as the PPA, then you will need to manually reinstall all the gnome 2 stuff, very messy
[15:09] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to get rid of X and any window system.  I dont' know what ails this rig, and I'm sick of trying to fix it.  I started off with a lubuntu install, but new monitor wouldn't work properly with it.  Installed GNOME (and gdm) and things were fine until an update yesterday.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: gnome 3 is not stable in ubuntu
[15:09] <Ntemis> Pici: now what?
[15:09] <Ntemis> how i fix this?
[15:09] <drose> ah this is a waste of time
[15:09] <Pici> Ntemis: Did you actually install firefox?
[15:09] <Ntemis> apt-get purge firefox?
[15:09] <Ntemis> yes :(
[15:09] <ohir> donkeyinspace: most modern bioses can boot pen as usb-hdd (selected usually in [boot options] menu of bios)
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: uninstall xorg and the rest will be autoremoved. You will then boot to a CLI system
[15:09] <drose> I can't fix this guy's netbook
[15:09] <Pici> Ntemis: Yes, apt-get purge firefox
[15:10] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip: thanks.  That's what Im booting to now anyway.  :)
[15:10] <amalgama> ActionParsnip: plus to that, i am running a wubi installation...
[15:10] <netsurf3> hmmm amalgama you should be able to find out what you installed by looking in the /var/log/dpkg.log
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> amalgama: thats fine, its still not stable. I'd just reinstall then restore user data from backup. Then stay away from gnome3
[15:10] <ohir> donkeyinspace: I really can not help you more, as I haven't cope with box that cannot boot pen for very long time
[15:11] <Ntemis> Pici: thanks autoremove worked, am back on track
[15:11] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip: gdm is still in /etc.  Should I have purged?  I want a fresh slate
[15:11] <Pici> Ntemis: great.  I accidentally did the same thing on my server yesterday.
[15:11] <Ntemis> and 200mb space gain ;)
[15:11] <amalgama>  ActionParsnip, netsurf3 : thanx for your help ppl.. really useful.. love irc :))
[15:11] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: it did not work..
[15:12] <Ntemis> Pici: will it put in for update again?
[15:12] <donkeyinspace> ohir , ok , appreciated , you gave me enough tips to be busy for some time
[15:12] <ohir> donkeyinspace: you may check how grub4dos pen works installing i.e. puppylinux
[15:13] <Pici> Ntemis: No, it won't. the bug was fixed.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: yeah:  sudo apt-get --purge remove xorg; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[15:13] <Ntemis> Pici: will it update those packages gain if i run apt-get update?
[15:13] <Pici> Ntemis: Nope.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Ntemis: nicec gain :)
[15:13] <Ntemis> ok thanks again pici
[15:13] <ohir> donkeyinspace: or just use live pen with persistent config as described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[15:14] <Ntemis> should i run pat-get clean after that?
[15:14] <donkeyinspace> ohir , dont know where to choose now   : )
[15:15] <Ntemis> ok fixed!
[15:15] <Ntemis> thanks alot guys
[15:15] <Ntemis> over and out
[15:15] <Ntemis> sweeett
[15:15] <Ntemis> ;)
[15:16] <ittyT> hi there, ive installed a programm with wine and later deinstalled. Problem is, that the icon of the program is still located in the dash(ubuntu 11.04) could any1 explain me please how to get rid of the icon?
[15:18] <DJHenjin> is it possible to install a GUI onto ubuntu 11.04 server?
[15:18] <thunder1212> i even tried downloading the indicidual pckages from net but theres always some conflict or the other
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ittyT: look in ~/.config/menus
[15:18] <Pantsu> ittyT: look for it in  ~/.local/share/applications/
[15:18] <Pantsu> too
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ittyT: I believe there is a menu item which gets integrated there.
[15:19] <soupermichael> can i send to channel?
[15:19] <DJones> soupermichael: We can see your messages
[15:19] <ltaverne> When copying a file from a cd-r I get "Error splicing file: input/output error" ubuntu 10.04
[15:19] <Benkinooby> DJHenjin, sure https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI
[15:19] <DJHenjin> thank you Benkinooby
[15:19] <Benkinooby> DJHenjin, np
[15:20] <Benkinooby> DJHenjin, was the first hit on googling "X on ubuntu server" ...
[15:20] <chat> hello
[15:20] <ittyT> thx, will try that @guys
[15:21] <Guest28755> anyone there?
[15:21] <ltaverne> When copying a file from a cd-r I get "Error splicing file: input/output error" ubuntu 10.04
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> DJHenjin: if you wanted a desktop OS, why didn't you just install the desktop OS?
[15:21] <SystemDefault0> Guest28755: Hi, how may I help you?
[15:21] <Pantsu> Guest28755: nope, noone is here
[15:21] <DJHenjin> ActionParsnip because its for a server
[15:21] <Pantsu> Guest28755: I would suggest changing your nick btw
[15:21] <ittyT> Guest28755,  just ask
[15:21] <Guest28755> hi I would appreciate some assistance for ubuntu
[15:22] <Pici> !asL
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> DJHenjin: maybe but the whole idea of server is to be desktopless
[15:22] <Pici> !ask
[15:22] <ittyT> Guest28755,  try /nick yourname
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> DJHenjin: you can install any of the server apps on the desktop OS
[15:22] <thunder1212> plz tell me how can i manually install the experimental drivers for nvidia..
[15:22] <Guest28755> ok the windows navigation bar only shows arrows now on ubuntu
[15:22] <Guest28755> it used to show the previous folders as images
[15:22] <DJHenjin> if a person installs X on the server they can start it or stop it when they want right? like it wont come up on boot until you start it?
[15:22] <Pantsu> thunder1212: you can find the beta drivers in ppa
[15:22] <SystemDefault0> thunder1212: Manually? "hy?
[15:22] <Guest28755> so that i could just click on the previous folder to access them
[15:22] <Pantsu> thunder1212: don't install them manually, just use ppa
[15:22] <SystemDefault0> thunder1212: Why?
[15:23] <Guest28755> how can I restore that
[15:23] <thunder1212> Pantsu: how?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/nouveau; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[15:23] <thunder1212> SystemDefault: bcoz its not there in the repos
[15:23] <virgo> are the nvidia drivers version 173 newer than the recommended second option from aditional driver list ?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> DJHenjin: sure with a boot option
[15:23] <Pantsu> virgo: 173xx is only for nvidia 5xxx cards
[15:24] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: ok am trying now ..
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: the build is 7 days old :)
[15:24] <Guest28755> the navigation bar used to show previous folders back to back so i could just click on them but not anymore
[15:24] <Guest28755> now i have to use the back and forth arrows
[15:24] <Guest28755> how do i restore that
[15:25] <Guest28755> where do i go in system settings
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: I recommend you remove the ppa after or it will upgrade xorg to the bleeding edge version
[15:25] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: ok
[15:25] <SystemDefault0> Bye.
[15:26] <Pantsu> thunder1212: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[15:27] <bz-hon> hi, i've a question. i want to install ubuntu on my netbook but i want that the installation files for windows will retain. but when i try to delete drives manually  it doesnt works. any solution for why i can't keep the windwos setup on drive?
[15:28] <Pantsu> bz-hon: define "doesn't work"
[15:28] <boshaus> ubuntu restarted and is having problems mounting some of the folders.. when I boot up ti says disk drive for / is not ready yet or present. I can press "m" for manual recovery and see my whole filesystem so i imagine something is just pointed wrong
[15:29] <boshaus> any idea where I"d go to fix that?
[15:29] <boshaus> doens't seem to be /etc/fstab
[15:29] <dr_Willis_>  / is in fstab
[15:29] <BluesKaj> bz-hon, use the partition editor to create ext4 partiton for ubuntu
[15:30] <dr_Willis_> could be hd is slow to spinup
[15:30] <boshaus> its a new sata drive, even if I tell it to wait it hangs up.. if I say skip then it complains about /tmp etc which isn't in fstab
[15:30] <toxic8> I just switched my desktop to classic, from Unity on Natty. What is "classic" exactly - KDE? GNOME?
[15:30] <Pici> toxic8: GNOME 2.x
[15:31] <toxic8> Pici: thank you, like it MUCH better :]
[15:31] <dr_Willis_>  / tmp is on /
[15:31] <bz-hon> hi, i've a question. i want to install ubuntu on my netbook but i want that the installation files for windows will retain. but when i try to delete drives manually  it doesnt works. any solution for why i can't keep the windwos setup on drive?
[15:31] <dr_Willis_> so could be / is somehow wrong  but the system does boot?
[15:32] <boshaus> I can hit m for manual mode and it throws me in as root and I can see the filesystem
[15:32] <boshaus> but its not actually booting
[15:33] <diogo_79> hi
[15:33] <boshaus> fstab points to /dev/sda1 which is right..
[15:33] <lachfome> Howto listen lasfm with banshee
[15:33] <boshaus> ah, its a maintenance shell it says
[15:33] <diogo_79> i have install ubuntu 10.04 for development of web sites is this a good choice
[15:33] <diogo_79> ?
[15:33] <boshaus> oh, it says root file system check failed now, i'll google aorund and see where that gets me
[15:34] <diogo_79> my tools are apache php mysql
[15:34] <dr_Willis_> boshaus: fsck the filesystem
[15:34] <diogo_79> the problem is to test the web site in diferent browsers
[15:34] <diogo_79> what are using to accomplish that?
[15:35] <dr_Willis_> !ies4linux
[15:35] <ittyT> ActionParsnip & Pantsu: thank you guys very much. Got rid of it :)
[15:36] <diogo_79> i am going to try ies4linux
[15:37] <virgo> i wasnt able to get the blue video fixed. I did reinstall nvidia drivers and did the settigs from the website.
[15:39] <Ridders> can I install a normal version of ubuntu and not the server edition if I was to run Amanda backup server on it?
[15:40] <Guest28755> hi does anyone use 11.04
[15:40] <Guest28755> who here has ubuntu 11.04 and can help me????
[15:40] <sipior> Ridders: yep
[15:40] <dr_Willis_> Ridders:  should work
[15:40] <dr_Willis_> !ask
[15:41] <Guest28755> how do i restore the folder puzzle navigation tool?
[15:41] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: i have nouveau already installed..
[15:42] <dr_Willis_> folder puzzle?
[15:42] <Grav> Is it necessary to have a swap partition for ubuntu and how large should it be?
[15:42] <dr_Willis_> Grav:  good idea of ay least ram id you want to suspend
[15:43] <sipior> Grav: generally, for optimum memory usage, you'll want a swap partition roughly equal in size to the amount of installed ram.
[15:43] <Guest28755> i can no longer click on the folder images on may navigation bar to get to the previous folder
[15:43] <Guest28755> i can only use the back arrow and forward arrow
[15:44] <Guest28755> the folders i have entered dont line up like puzzle pieces on the navigation bar
[15:44] <Guest28755> do u see what i am talking about?
[15:44] <Guest28755> what is that feature called
[15:44] <z3ro> hello everyone
[15:44] <Ridders> does the canonical support offer product buying advice, in regards to servers etc?
[15:44] <z3ro> anyone can help me ?
[15:45] <dr_Willis_> !ask
[15:45] <sipior> Ridders: you'd have to ask them, i guess. there is a hardware compatibility list available at the website.
[15:45]  * phill testing me
[15:45] <BluesKaj> !server | Ridders
[15:46] <donkeyinspace> Guest28755 , i guess you are using unity , restart and choose ubuntu classic at login screen
[15:46] <DanielN_> pal
[15:46] <Guest28755> at login?
[15:47] <donkeyinspace> Guest28755 , yes in the bottom bar
[15:47] <InfiniteSet> Hello, I was trying ubuntu the other day, and the sound and graphics weren't the best, it seemed all fuzzy and low-quality. Is there a way to fix that?
[15:47] <dr_Willis_> !classic
[15:48] <Pici> Guest28755: You mean the breadcrumbs of what folders that you are in? Like this; http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4089/4962141603_32e2f23c77.jpg ?
[15:48] <z3ro> i already install IDS and have that alert.log file
[15:48] <z3ro> how can i alert that file automatic in ubuntu..
[15:48] <z3ro> i means, create using echo command to be autorun
[15:48] <z3ro> and will be alert if IDS detect the something..
[15:48] <FloodBot1> z3ro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:48] <donkeyinspace> Guest28755 , follow ubottu tips a few lines above
[15:49] <DamnSoGooD> is there any available app to convert video/audio into other formats?
[15:49] <InfiniteSet> Hello, I was trying ubuntu the other day, and the sound and graphics weren't the best, it seemed all fuzzy and low-quality. Is there a way to fix that?
[15:49] <dr_Willis_> DamnSoGooD:  several
[15:49] <Grav> dr_Willis_, sipior: I'haven't created swap partition when i installed system and now I see ubuntu can't manage memory. I got 2gb ram and system freezes always when it's full. And it's getting full fast. It's never cleared. I know there is probably nothing that can be done about it.
[15:49] <DamnSoGooD> what is it doc?
[15:50] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: u want me to install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau?
[15:50] <dr_Willis_> DamnSoGooD:  winff. ffmpeg. mencoder. avidea ?. and probrtly more
[15:50] <dr_Willis_> search the repos
[15:50] <DamnSoGooD> dr_Willis: are they executables? or have GUI?
[15:50] <phill> Trying to use Network Manager to setup a vpn connection. Get connection failed. How do I check the log for more info?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> !my > z3ro
[15:50] <dr_Willis_> Grav:  make a swap file
[15:51] <dr_Willis_> DamnSoGooD:  yes to both counts..
[15:51] <louis_> Hi, anyone experienced this bug? : when I login to unity gives me the side dock if I go to the yop bar there is basic menu. ie. places... help. but if I start an app lets say terminal then after i close terminal the name of the app stays in top bar. always and any app.
[15:51] <sipior> Grav: linux can manage memory just fine, but it will kill processes to satisfy memory needs. memory is generally not "cleared" in modern operating systems, simply replaced by new cached material. adding a swap file is pretty easy, though, and will give your system quite a bit more room to maneuver.
[15:51] <DamnSoGooD> Grav: you must make a swap partition because it also serves as RAM between mounted volumes
[15:51] <RayKay> www.sourmath.com/
[15:52] <sipior> Grav: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[15:52] <InfiniteSet> RayKar: ...
[15:52] <InfiniteSet> Trolling?
[15:52] <lolicon> is there anybody using a lenovo thinkpad Edge E520/E420?
[15:53] <louis_> i use lenovo thinkpad t510 :)
[15:53] <DamnSoGooD> RayKay: it's a gay porn standalone flashvideo
[15:53] <BluesKaj> lolicon, just ask your question
[15:53] <DamnSoGooD> please kick RayKay he is not suitable here
[15:53] <InfiniteSet> ^
[15:53] <RayKay> lol
[15:55] <lolicon> BluesKaj: I'm planning to buy a E520 and I want to know about the compatible problems. especially the switchable graphics cards feature. 				
[15:55] <InfiniteSet> I was just wondering but is LibreOffice compatiable with Microsoft Word?
[15:56] <dr_Willis_> swithcable gfx cards are nit well supported yet
[15:56] <tarzeau> InfiniteSet: more or less, yes
[15:56] <Grav> Ok i will try to make a swap file. I was just wondering I have never run out of memory on windows, having many process in background, or playing games. And ubuntu can crash when i have firefox opened few hours and try to open another process. Don't know why it's happening on ubuntu.
[15:56] <tarzeau> InfiniteSet: the problems are not exact same rendering, if you miss fonts you miss them..
[15:56] <louis_> an other problem... I use ubuntu classic theme because the unity gives troubles. but in classic i resize a window and at the top left corner a black square appears. and grows as i resize. and covers the top bar.
[15:57] <RedRobot> InfiniteSet: mostly
[15:57] <InfiniteSet> tarzeau, RedRobot: Mostly? What things are not compatiable with it?
[15:57] <RedRobot> yep
[15:57] <BluesKaj> lolicon, there is a solution , but it involves using the performance setting for most effects , you may not like it . That's all I know about it
[15:57] <tarzeau> InfiniteSet: rendering can be a problem, you don't have wordart
[15:57] <tarzeau> InfiniteSet: many small things like that.
[15:58] <RedRobot> eg some of the drm/security crud, and embedded activex and other horrible things
[15:58] <RedRobot> mostly things you don't want to use anyway
[15:58] <tarzeau> RedRobot: ms word and the other products from office are horrible
[15:58] <RedRobot> indeed
[15:58] <InfiniteSet> Okay haha, alright Thanks
[15:58] <RedRobot> I prefer latex when writing anything non-trivial
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !pm | lolicon
[15:59] <lolicon> BluesKaj: what about AMD ?
[15:59] <vooze> I'm setting up, ubuntu server, should i use LVM (i have 3 x 2TB HD's) ?
[16:00] <dr_Willis_> !lvm
[16:00] <dr_Willis_> i find it more hassle then its worth  lvm
[16:01] <BluesKaj> lolicon, it has to do with the graphics gpus on the laptop more than the cpu
[16:01] <dr_Willis_> but yoir needa mau differ
[16:01] <RedRobot> vooze: remember that a default lvm2 setup is like raid0, lose a disk and _all_ the data is gone
[16:01] <vooze> okay dr_willis its just a NAS server, so i guess without is fine
[16:01] <RedRobot> vooze: I would suggest an extra disk and software raid6
[16:02] <RedRobot> asuming performance is not critical
[16:02] <craigbass1976> ok, wits end...  I removed all traces of X, reinstalled thatand GNOME, and still land at a text login.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log says, among other things, no screens found.  It also says (I think this is particularly funny) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information...
[16:02] <vooze> RedRobot: if i buy one more disk, and setup RAID6, how much data will i have then?
[16:03] <dr_Willis_> craigbass1976:  video card is?
[16:03] <craigbass1976> dr_willis nvidia Ibelieve
[16:03] <craigbass1976> dr_willis things worked until an update yesterday
[16:04] <RedRobot> vooze: 4tb
[16:04] <RedRobot> vooze: raid6 is n-2, raid5 is n-1
[16:04] <virgo> is it possible to increase sound volume more than 100%? i think i have looked everywhere and there is 100% but still not strong enough
[16:05] <lolicon> BluesKaj: it's acceptable to switch graphics cards in the bios. but the integated card can't be disabled in E520. Will it be any problem?
[16:05] <RedRobot> but with raid5, it is not unlikely to get data corruption or a disk loss while you are rebuilding from a single disc failure
[16:05] <RedRobot> it can literally take days to rebuild a large raid5 array
[16:05] <RedRobot> virgo: some apps allows you to do it, eg using softvol in mplayer
[16:06] <dr_Willis_> virgo:  vlc can
[16:06] <z3ro> @BluesKaj : can you help me ask my question
[16:06] <virgo> haha, thing with vlc is it shows me blue viedo :(
[16:06] <mtec007> looking for a virtual machine that doesnt have to modify the kernel. the kernel i am using, the source isnt available
[16:07] <dr_Willis_> virgo:  try other cid
[16:07] <sudokill> virgo, ur better off using an amp or something. i use a mini hifi for pc speakers. otherwise ud get massive distortion
[16:07] <dr_Willis_> vid out options n vlc
[16:07] <lolicon> BluesKaj: E520 uses a strange policy on switchable graphics cards. that' s why i ask who are using it.
[16:09] <craigbass1976> dr_willis everything I'm finding on setting up nvidia and so forth explains how to do it from the GUI.
[16:10] <szal> craigbass1976: setting up nVidia from the terminal is a no-brainer -> sudo apt-get install $nvidia [replace w/ actual pkg name; don't want to look that up now ;)], sudo nvidia-xconfig, reboot
[16:13] <ArmyMan007> hello... i can't play anything using my laptop's built-in speakers. can anyone please help me out?
[16:13] <ArmyMan007> meaning i don't have any sound coming out of my laptop's built-in speakers
[16:13] <BluesKaj> lolicon, what brand is the E520?
[16:14] <virgo> aha, when i use vdpa output driver for video, the blue faces are gone :)
[16:14] <szal> !audio | ArmyMan007
[16:14] <PythonSnake> hi
[16:14] <Ufonautas> Hey! I have Slow WiFi problem, anybody can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10971968#post10971968 (last post0
[16:14] <sudokill> hi
[16:14] <PythonSnake> i'm trying to get ubuntu
[16:14] <Sub_Zero> Every so often bits of either the bottom or top panels have a chuck go missing from them http://i.imgur.com/22SBc.png Anyone seen this before?
[16:14] <lolicon> BluesKaj: lenovo thinkpad edge e520
[16:14] <PythonSnake> is 11.04 or 10.10 better?
[16:14] <sudokill> PythonSnake, download it from their website
[16:14] <ArmyMan007> szal: won't help, already looked at it
[16:14] <PythonSnake> sudokill: 10 or 11 is better
[16:15] <sudokill> PythonSnake, 11.04 has newer kernel etc
[16:15] <sudokill> go for 11.04
[16:15] <sudokill> u can use the classic interface to make it look like 10.10
[16:15] <PythonSnake> ok
[16:15] <Snake__> Hi guys
[16:15] <PythonSnake> is 11.04 buggy?
[16:15] <Sub_Zero> One thing I don't like about 11.04 is unity. The file menu is on your top panel and your scroll bar disappears. I much prefer metacity.
[16:15] <PythonSnake> Hi Snake__
[16:16] <Ufonautas> 11.04 is buggy with Ati Catalyst Drivers
[16:16] <sudokill> PythonSnake, i did have problems with 11.04 but theyre probably fixed now was when it was very first released
[16:16] <Pici> Ufonautas: It works fine for me.
[16:16] <ArmyMan007> can anyone help me please?
[16:16] <Ufonautas> Pici, have you tried clean install?
[16:16] <Snake__> what do you guys think of women not being there for their children and becoming like men
[16:16] <sudokill> PythonSnake, just try 11.04 see what happens
[16:16] <PythonSnake> I use intel graphics
[16:16] <kdog> Firefox in 10.10 is messing up the screen buffer on other workspaces. It seems to be flash banner ads. Anyone else come across this?
[16:16] <Pici> !ot | Snake__
[16:16] <Pici> Ufonautas: It was an upgrade.
[16:17] <nickkontos> hello, I have an onboard intel audio card and just out of nowhere I have no sound. on sound preferences I only see a dummy output. ubuntu 11.04, intel N10/ICH 7 Family hda audio
[16:17] <blkdg> hi, has anyone here used user agent switcher + ubuntu + firefox?
[16:17] <sudokill> PythonSnake, ur better off using the newest kernel for intel graphics
[16:17] <Sub_Zero> Every so often bits from either the bottom or top panels have a chuck go missing from them. http://i.imgur.com/22SBc.png Anyone seen this before?
[16:17] <blkdg> thanks anyhow
[16:18] <PythonSnake> ok thx
[16:18] <sudokill> Sub_Zero, graphics problem?
[16:18] <sudokill> idk
[16:18] <Ufonautas> Anybody know fix for slow Broadcom Wifi?
[16:19] <jbwiv> guys, is there any open equivalent to landscape?
[16:19] <sudokill> try osalt.com or alternativeto
[16:19] <sudokill> idk what landscape is
[16:20] <miguel29> hello there...
[16:20] <Pici> sudokill: You don't need to answer if you don't know anything about the issue.
[16:20] <miguel29> I installed ubuntu and need to install some virtualization so I can run win xp into it...
[16:20] <sudokill> theyre useful sites for open source alternatives
[16:20] <obscurant1st> i am doing scrub to a 160GB harddisk. approximately how much time it will take?
[16:21] <sudokill> miguel29, install virtualbox
[16:21] <miguel29> I am new to linux and don't know how to install any software
[16:22] <Ufonautas> miguel20, Try Ubuntu Software center and search for VirtualBox
[16:22] <Pici> jbwiv: You can use something like puppet to perform the tasks that landscape would provide for you.
[16:22] <miguel29> sudokill: I downloaded it and tried to install it....  but when I double clicked it then it did not install anything....
[16:22] <sudokill> im not sure if u need ppa for it
[16:22] <Pici> jbwiv: Or ask for other alternatives in #ubuntu-server
[16:22] <sudokill> miguel29, its not like windows
[16:22] <miguel29> The thing is that I need a solution to install in a computer off line
[16:22] <miguel29> this computer has no internet connection at the moment
[16:23] <sudokill> will it ever have an internet connection?
[16:23] <miguel29> sudokill:  how can I run and install it?
[16:23] <sudokill> if not ull have a hard time
[16:23] <Ufonautas> migue129 http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads Download .deb and copy it via Usb or somehow to your Ubuntu machine
[16:23] <miguel29> sudokill: it will, the thing is that I use a 3G dongle and my limit has come to an end this month... I have to wait till the 2nd july
[16:24] <sudokill> ah ok
[16:24] <miguel29> Ufonautas: thank you...
[16:24] <sudokill> i think on the virtualbox u can download deb file if u doubleclick it it should come up in software centre to install
[16:24] <miguel29> what is the difference between i386   and AMD64?
[16:24] <sudokill> basically 32 but or 64
[16:24] <sudokill> bit*
[16:25] <miguel29> oh ok
[16:25] <RedRobot> miguel29: just use aptitude or apt-get
[16:25] <sudokill> he has no internet tho
[16:25] <miguel29> I would like to, but it is not a solution at the moment...   no internet connection
[16:26] <sudokill> miguel, can u not connect the cable to whatever comp ur using now just to install it?
[16:26] <miguel29> I also noticed that on my 'connections'   it does not show the available wireless connections.....  how do I ennable it?
[16:27] <miguel29> sudokill: I can't as i am using an internet cafe   just to download the right files and get info
[16:27] <RedRobot> miguel29: you can download the .deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[16:27] <RedRobot> and just move them over using a usb stick or whatever and then install
[16:28] <virgo> choosing digital output enables increase volume over 100%
[16:28] <craigbass1976> !nvidia-xconfig
[16:29] <Ufonautas> Anybody have ideas why Broadcom Wifi is super slow? (500b/s instead of 1,5mb/s download speed)
[16:29] <vyvea> Hello, how to fix this? You don't have permission to access /folder/ on this server. (Apache)
[16:29] <miguel29> RedRobot: ok, thank you    I downloaded the first one in the list :  http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[16:29] <RedRobot> miguel29: get the .deb from the ubuntu package archive instead
[16:30] <Ufonautas> vyvea i'm not sure, but sudo chown /folder yourusername.yourusername
[16:30] <miguel29> redrobot, what is the difference?    this one is a .deb file too   :S
[16:30] <craigbass1976> szal: what package is nvidia-xconfig part of?  I've no such command, and have installed what I thought were all the nvidia packages I needed.
[16:31] <szal> craigbass1976: nvidia-current: /usr/lib/nvidia-current/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[16:32] <RedRobot> craigbass1976: use nvidia-settings instead,
[16:33] <miguel29> How can i enable the wireless connection broadcasting in Ubuntu?
[16:33] <miguel29> like, to see the available wireless connections
[16:33] <Cautex> :(
[16:33] <Cautex> hi?
[16:34] <woutervddn> hey guys I was trying to get activity journal to work in 11.04 but after I installed it, I tried to open it and no succes
[16:34] <Cautex> ¬¬
[16:34] <Cautex> ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
[16:34] <miguel29> RedRobot, sudokill, ufonautas: thank you for the help
[16:35] <firebus> just installed 11.04 on a new thinkpad t420, and i'm getting random kernel panic/crashes. how do i go about troubleshooting the issue? would an older version, or 32-bit kernel be more stable?
[16:35] <RedRobot> firebus: highly unlikely, in fact, old kernels won't work at all because of the new chipset
[16:35] <woutervddn> @firebus I use the previous kernel aswel.. it's stuck on boot with the new one :)
[16:35] <woutervddn> *as well
[16:36] <RedRobot> .36 iirc is the oldest you can use on that laptop
[16:36] <zvacet> !ask | Cautex
[16:37] <szal> zvacet: slowness is slow, eh?! ;)
[16:37] <firebus> RedRobot - but does that mean i need to use 11.04? i'm wondering if 10.xx would be more stable? but that's just a stab in the dark...is there any good way to figure out what's causing the crashes?
[16:37] <RedRobot> firebus: most likely too old to work
[16:37] <zvacet> szal:   ?   :o
[16:38] <nickkontos> please, any help, ubuntu 11.04, no sound card detected, had same version installed in the morning and worked out-of-the-box (sound card onboard intel  N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio), already followed documentation with no results
[16:38] <RedRobot> firebus: and no need to install an outdated ubuntu version just to try an older kernel
[16:38] <szal> zvacet: [17:34:28] <-- Cautex has left this server (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 5.0/20110615151330]).
[16:38] <firebus> RedRobot: sure, but i don't know yet if it's really a kernel problem, or a driver issue, or some other piece of software in the distro :(
[16:39] <zvacet> szal: I didn´t saw tnx and you are right I´m slow
[16:39] <jbwiv> Pici, ok, thanks
[16:39] <firebus> RedRobot: thanks for the feedback!
[16:40] <craigbass1976> RedRobot: as in nvidia-settings -r, or something else?
[16:40] <szal> craigbass1976: are you sure you didn't fall victim to a typo?
[16:40] <testosin> !help
[16:41] <RedRobot> craigbass1976: just run it with no args, tweak the settings as you like and then save the config
[16:41] <StormXI> Plop
[16:42] <user> l
[16:43] <testosin> !help: I suddenly have no sound. In the sound preferences program says I don't have any application playing or recording audio. If I open rythmbox, and try to play a song, the song stays in 0:00 and does not move on. The sound was working good minutes ago. Is there a way to restart the sound, alsa restart or something like that?
[16:43] <roobter> hi all
[16:43] <roobter> russia ?
[16:44] <Pici> !ru | roobter
[16:44] <nickkontos> testosin, i think there's something going on with an update... I have the same problem.
[16:45] <testosin> I did not update
[16:45] <testosin> also, Im on an old linux mint. so its use lucid packages that have almost no updates
[16:45] <nickkontos> testosin, well, then it's just a coincidence
[16:47] <DamnSoGooD> do we have a download accelerator for chromium?
[16:47] <Pici> testosin: We do not support Mint here. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[16:49] <testosin> ok. Pici , but its basically the same xd
[16:49] <ittyT> when i start the first time my fresh installed ubuntu 11.04 it asks me if i want to encrypt my home directory. since im using a lvm with dm crypt, is there a chance to get rid of the other seperate home encryption?
[16:51] <craigbass1976> RedRobot: when I run it with no arguments though, I'm told to run it with --help
[16:52] <RedRobot> craigbass1976: uhm, not normal
[16:52] <DamnSoGooD> dr_willis: sad to say but i didn't find an app that will convert a video file to my desired formats, they only have so called presets
[16:52] <RedRobot> craigbass1976: you are running it from inside X right?
[16:52] <craigbass1976> RedRobot: no.  X won't start
[16:53] <RedRobot> craigbass1976: post your xorg log and startx &> foo.log in a sane pastebin then
[16:53] <chriscohen> hi there - i have a server running 9.04 with apache2 and openssl 0.9.8g - looking to update to a more modern version of openssl, but not really sure what i should be doing - is there any info on how i'd go about this?
[16:54] <Guest99752> I just messed up my 2 months old ubuntu installation, it does not boot. What I did was removing the nvidia 270 drivers already installed by ubuntu package manager in order to install nvidia 260 script drivers from the nvidia site. I tried everything, from booting into recovery mode to failsafeX, but it freezes without giving me any change to log in. I also tried to manually do an apt-get purge nvidia* and a apt-get insta
[16:54] <Guest99752> ll nvidia-current but it didn't work:  Now all I get right after splash is a deep freeze.
[16:55] <deucep> how can I get grep to match an exact string in a file I have tried grep -w "this is the string" *
[16:55] <deucep> but I can never get an exact match for only that string
[16:55] <pietr101> Hello, how to configure priority for tcp ports in ubuntu?
[16:56] <sipior> pietr101: sorry, what do you mean by that, exactly?
[16:56] <miguel29> how to enable wireless in ubuntu 11
[16:56] <miguel29> 11.04
[16:56] <miguel29> wireless connection
[16:57] <RedRobot> miguel29: depends on your wifi card
[16:57] <pietr101> sipior: hello. for example give tcp22 (sshd) high priority, so it will run fast even under high network load
[16:57] <craigbass1976> RedRobot: http://pastebin.com/aM32UB5U  I don't see datestamps in there; it was 11:54 my time right after I did a sudo startx
[16:58] <pietr101> when i download a file (via http protocol) from my ubuntu box, then ssh has a long response time
[16:58] <miguel29> RedRobot: sorry, my question wasn't very specific...   I managed to install the wireless card...  however I would like to enable the functionality to view the available connections
[16:58] <Ampelbein> deucep: what happens and what do you expect to happen?
[16:58] <sipior> pietr101: what you're referring to is generally known as "Quality of Service" (QoS).
[16:59] <RedRobot> craigbass1976: I can't open pastebin.com and wouldn't if I could. I don't like ads, specially not ads with js exploits etc
[16:59] <RedRobot> craigbass1976: also, do not run X as root, that's rather unsafe and silly
[16:59] <sipior> pietr101: might be useful as a place to start: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7990
[17:00] <deucep> Ampelbein: I get a list of filenames but most of them do not contain the search string I am looking for they all match only part of the string
[17:00] <pietr101> sipior: thank you man. I will take a look at it :D
[17:00] <miguel29> how can I enable the functionality to view the available wireless connections in ubuntu 11.04
[17:00] <miguel29> ?
[17:00] <Guest99752> miguel29 do you have a wireless icon near the clock?
[17:00] <miguel29> yes
[17:00] <craigbass1976> RedRobot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/631264/
[17:01] <Guest99752> click it,
[17:01] <Guest99752> it should show the available connections
[17:01] <miguel29> guest997552:  yes, but when I click it, there are no connections....only the availability to create a new one
[17:01] <ittyT> when i start my 11.04 the first time it asked my if i want to encrypt my home dir. which encryption is that ? cryptsetup? wanna get rid of it
[17:01] <Faustus2> anyone know of a workaround for usb3 problem in ubuntu 11.04, where the disk does not seem to be detected, also my system freezes! might be  Bug #775543 ... (works when i blacklist xhci_hcd, but then only as usb2)
[17:01] <Guest99752> miguel29, sorry then, I can't help
[17:02] <miguel29> Guest99752:   hehe...   ok... thanks anyway
[17:02] <jbwiv> I have a directory in which both user1 and user2 can write. When either user writes to that directory, I want the file to take on ownership of user1. how should this be accomplished?
[17:03] <Zajjko> Is there a special channel for issues regarding upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 (server)?
[17:03] <Pici> Zajjko: #ubuntu-server exists.
[17:04] <Zajjko> Pici: Thanks
[17:04] <llutz> jbwiv: sudo chown user1 dir/ && sudo chmod u+s dir/
[17:04] <Guest99752> can't anyone help me yet? How can I recover my ubuntu installation if I can't boot after a failed nvidia driver installation? failsafeX do not work, it simply freezes and I can't even use that low graphics mode. Anyone?
[17:04] <Ampelbein> deucep: can you paste your file to paste.ubuntu.com?
[17:04] <deucep> Ampelbein: I have files that are reports generated with a standard file name so multiple reports are under a filename that does not describe the actual type of report but there is the report type listed as a string in each file, my goal is to use grep to search for the string and then move the files and rename them accordingly
[17:05] <RedRobot> craigbass1976: doesn't look like you have the nvidia driver installed
[17:05] <RedRobot> craigbass1976: [  1043.481] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[17:05] <deucep> Ampelbein: Can't do because the data contained within
[17:06] <jbwiv> llutz, I want this to happen automatically when new files are created in the directory
[17:06] <deucep> jpds: Are you using samba?
[17:06] <deucep> jbwiv: are you using samba
[17:06] <jpds> deucep: No.
[17:06] <Ampelbein> deucep: I guess your pattern needs to be more strict if you find more files than expected.
[17:06] <jbwiv> deucep, no
[17:06] <llutz> jbwiv: yes, you have to modify the dir in the way shown above
[17:06] <deucep> jpds: Mistell sorry about that
[17:07] <llutz> jbwiv: man chmod "SETUID AND SETGID BITS"
[17:07] <jbwiv> llutz, ah, so is +s sticky bit?
[17:07] <jbwiv> llutz, ok, i'll take a look at that. thanks
[17:07] <Ampelbein> deucep: but without actual data it's hard to tell. maybe -F is what you are looking for?
[17:07] <Zajjko> Just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and now the system halts during boot (during or after Stopping System V runlevel compatibility)
[17:07] <Zajjko> I never get an <OK> prompt on that line
[17:07] <Zajjko> Starting grub-loader, booting to rescue-mode and choosing resume normal boot works though
[17:08] <llutz> jbwiv: sticky-bit is "t"
[17:08] <llutz> won't help here
[17:08] <jbwiv> llutz, hm...that doesn't seem to work. (the chmod u+s). both files still show the original creator, not user1
[17:09] <llutz> jbwiv: let user2 create a file
[17:10] <jbwiv> llutz, yes, I have. and ls -l shows user2 as owner.
[17:10] <jbwiv> directory: drwsrwx--- 2 audit  mot    4096 Jun 23 12:08 aa
[17:10] <admgy22> hi, what is /var/log/btmp supposed to be please?
[17:10] <jbwiv> llutz, each file created by user2 remains user2-owned, even through I've chown'd the dir to user1 and chmod u+s
[17:11] <deucep> Ampelbein: Can I PM you?
[17:11] <Ampelbein> deucep: sure
[17:11] <llutz> jbwiv:  argh, sry. setuid won't work on linux, only setgid.
[17:11] <jbwiv> llutz, hmm...ok. setgid might be enough
[17:11] <markamber> anyone here really good with svg graphics, I am having a problem, and I was wondering how two (non inkscape) svgs could be different
[17:12] <borrell> #forex
[17:12] <markamber> basically one svg works in a game that I am making and one does not
[17:12] <lng> hi! how do I get wifi access points listed?
[17:14] <CoverSlide> iwlist scanning
[17:14] <lng> thanks
[17:14] <RedRobot> iwlist <interface> scanning
[17:15] <Zajjko> Any idea on boot halting on or after "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility" (directly after starting apache2)
[17:16] <lng> RedRobot: I have 'wlan0 Failed to read scan data : Network is down'
[17:17] <RedRobot> lng: ifconfig wlan0 up
[17:17] <RedRobot> then try again
[17:17] <lng> thanks
[17:18] <craigbass1976> RedRobot: well, I give up.  I've spent more time on this now than it would have taken to just start over.  Thanks fir helping though.
[17:22] <lng> RedRobot: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[17:23] <RedRobot> lng: rfkill unblock all
[17:23] <sarkis> hey guys, curious on how you guys got inconsolata looking good on ubuntu 11.04?
[17:23] <lng> RedRobot: same error
[17:24] <sarkis> i just added the autohinting via .fonts.conf
[17:24] <RedRobot> lng: check the hw kill button then
[17:24] <RedRobot> lng: actually, run rfkill list  and see the status of the device
[17:24] <sarkis> you guys using inconsolata medium? bold?
[17:24] <ittyT> lng: is this a laptop?
[17:24] <lng> RedRobot: mmt
[17:24] <RedRobot> if it's hw blocked or just sw blocked
[17:24] <lng> yes
[17:24] <lng> laptop
[17:24] <ittyT> if yes, TURN ON wlan @bios
[17:24] <ittyT> otherwise ull get this error
[17:24] <lng> Sony
[17:24] <lng> ah
[17:25] <RedRobot> probably enabled in the bios but soft or hw blocked
[17:25] <Mandrew> hello i have installed the proprietary drivers on my nvidia 79oo gto graphics card but now i can get passed were i choose the kernal, any ideas?
[17:25] <RedRobot> tfkill will tell you which
[17:25] <ittyT> was wondering here on my system too, found the adapter with iwconfig, but no chance to get it up
[17:25] <lng> RedRobot: what's 'hw kill button'?
[17:25] <RedRobot> rfkill*
[17:25] <ittyT> had to turn it on @bios
[17:25] <RedRobot> lng: fancy switch to enable/disable the wifi
[17:25] <lng> ah
[17:25] <shafire> hi
[17:26] <shafire> do you use apt-get or aptitude? :(
[17:26] <Guest99752> how can I fix a non-booting ubuntu installation after a graphical driver mess-up?
[17:26] <lng> RedRobot: found it
[17:26] <carlosve_ucv> you can use any...
[17:26] <vooze> In debian i used to run fdisk -l, to show harddrives etc.. what is command in ubuntu?
[17:26] <llutz> vooze: sudo fdisk -l
[17:27] <vooze> llutz: ah, just forgot sudo, thx;)
[17:27] <carlosve_ucv> apt-get is just a other interface
[17:27] <lng> RedRobot: I have exited IRSSI - what was the command to list wlan access points once again please
[17:27] <ittyT> RedRobot: maybe you know which encryption tool will be used when u login the first time in ubuntu 11.04? it asked me if i want to encrypt  my home dir
[17:27] <Pici> !who
[17:27] <Letterbomb05> Hi does anyone know the ubuntu command for what would usually be httpd -S when using apache2?
[17:28] <lng> I got in history
[17:28] <lng> nm
[17:29] <lng> do I have to switch wifi in bios as well?
[17:29] <Pici> Letterbomb05: What would you expect that to do?
[17:29] <ittyT> lng: na
[17:29] <ittyT> u dont have to
[17:30] <ittyT> but if his solution wont work, just try it.
[17:30] <Letterbomb05> Pici: it should display the vhost configuration
[17:30] <lng> wlan0 No scan results
[17:30] <lng> toobad
[17:30] <edbian> lng: What card do you have?
[17:31] <Pici> Letterbomb05: apache2ctl -S
[17:31] <Letterbomb05> thanks very much Pici
[17:31] <lng> edbian: I don't know
[17:31] <lng> need to google maybe
[17:32] <edbian> lng: sudo lspci -k    will tell you.  Or you can pastebin it and I'll read it (it's kinda long)
[17:32] <edbian> lng: You know how to pastebin? (I assume we're trying to get wifi working here)
[17:32] <OldFarter> where do i find the md5sums for CD images ?
[17:32] <Pici> !hashes | OldFarter
[17:32] <lng> edbian: I know
[17:33] <Pici> OldFarter: They should also be in an MD5SUMS file on the mirror you go the isos from. (iirc)
[17:33] <koppe> Problem after doing clean install to Ubuntu 11.04 on my Eee...  Attempting to connect to wireless network, freezes the computer totally.  Wireless worked well on previous version.
[17:33] <madadam1> hi someone knows the protocol I have to use to remotely login to a mac from ubuntu?
[17:33] <madadam1> like smb://
[17:34] <ittyT> mac? go to hell :)
[17:34] <the_anuj> madadam1: afp:// if you have support.
[17:34] <IdleOne> !language | ittyT
[17:34] <madadam1> the_anuj, which machine should support it? mac or linux?
[17:35] <the_anuj> madadam1: afp is the apple filesharing protocol, so if you have sharing enabled on your mac and netatalk set up on ubuntu, you should be good to go.
[17:35] <RedRobot> madadam1: if you are talking about file sharing, just use cifs
[17:36] <RedRobot> osX supports cifs
[17:36] <lng> edbian: I posting from Gentoo here
[17:36] <the_anuj> madadam1: but if you're talking about "remote login" in the somewhat correct sense of the word, you just need ssh
[17:36] <koppe> madadam1: Depends on what the Mac is running.  SSH (ie. sftp) may also be used for transfering files.
[17:36] <lng> edbian: I have wifi up!
[17:36] <lng> RedRobot: thanks
[17:36] <nimbiotics> hello ya'll. I need help sharing my internet connection using firestarter. I followed the wizar, but everytime I try to start the firewall, I get "the device eth0 is not ready". Can someone please guide me? TIA!
[17:36] <edbian> lng: wow
[17:36] <lng> edbian: thanks
[17:36] <edbian> I did nothing
[17:36] <edbian> That, was a miracle
[17:36] <lng> anyway))
[17:36] <madadam1> I just would have file sharing. I've samba on linux
[17:36] <lng> that was that button
[17:36] <lng> RedRobot mentioned
[17:36] <RedRobot> madadam1: osX does cifs (aka samba) too
[17:37] <lng> cheers
[17:37] <the_anuj> afk
[17:37] <madadam1> RedRobot, so How should I write in nautilus protocol://adress? which is the protocol?
[17:37] <RedRobot> madadam1: if you have gvfs-smb installed, just smb://
[17:37] <RedRobot> asuming you have a somewhat up to date nautilus
[17:38] <RedRobot> or use the connec to dialog
[17:38] <madadam1> smb:// doesn't work, it says that the source is unreacheable
[17:38] <madadam1> I've both machines with static ip adress connected to a switch, same subnet, same workgroup
[17:39] <RedRobot> have you actually enabled the sharing in osx?
[17:40] <madadam1> RedRobot, yes
[17:40] <madadam1> I'll make another attempt
[17:40] <RedRobot> try the full path to the share
[17:40] <Faustus2> is there a way to tell ubuntu not to show icon for a specific external hdd on the desktop? (but i want others to show up on the desktop)
[17:40] <RedRobot> Faustus2: can use a udev rule for it
[17:41] <madadam1> RedRobot, I've not set any folder to be shared
[17:41] <RedRobot> madadam1: then it won't work
[17:41] <madadam1> RedRobot, how could I set this option? right click on the folder?
[17:42] <RedRobot> no idea how it's done in osX
[17:42] <kjelle> hi, I am trying to install 11.04 live (amd64), but it doesnt seem to come with LVM. So I setup LVM myself, however, how do i start the old text-based installer from console?
[17:43] <Faustus2> RedRobot: thanks :)
[17:43] <Pici> kjelle: you can't do it from the Live CD, only the alternate, server, and minimal CDs have that.
[17:43] <kjelle> aha
[17:43] <kjelle> ill put the alternate on my usbstick then ;)
[17:45] <pte> could someone explain the ERR logs in istalling PDO to PHP:
[17:45] <pte> http://paste.ubuntu.com/631283/ ?
[17:45] <kjelle> Pici: does the desktop CD have it?
[17:45] <Pici> kjelle: No.
[17:45] <kjelle> Pici: ok, ty
[17:45] <Pici> kjelle: The desktop CD is the Live CD.
[17:46] <shafire> do you use apt-get?
[17:46] <kjelle> Pici: ok. thanks, then I will quit mocking about. cheers mate
[17:46] <Pici> kjelle: The Alternate CD installs the desktop version of Ubuntu.
[17:47] <kjelle> Pici: mm
[17:47] <kjelle> I just want a cd with lvm2 on it ;)
[17:48] <chriscohen> i need to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/0.9.8g-4ubuntu3.13 on a system but doesn't seem to come with any instructions on how to install... what should i be reading here?
[17:48] <shafire> is ubuntu 10.04 the last lts?
[17:49] <DarkSector> hi
[17:49] <sipior> shafire: most recent, yes
[17:49] <pte> "sudo pecl install pdo" <--- make does not run with this, what is the way to debug?
[17:49] <DarkSector> !hi > DarkSector
[17:50] <david> ciao
[17:50] <demonspork> so this new unity interface in 11.04 is full of bugs.  I need 2 things, a standard gnome menu and to disable the file,edit,view things being in the bar on the top (they keep bugging out and disappearing, which makes it very difficult to work with
[17:51] <DarkSector> okay dpkg question, how do I solve this? And the problem is I just have a .deb package for it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/631286/
[17:51] <shafire> someone using chef opcodes?
[17:51] <shafire> or is there any alternative?
[17:52] <sarkis> anyon else not able to run facebook.com in chrome on ubuntu?
[17:53] <yixuan> Hello, which diff tool are you using under ubuntu 11.04
[17:53] <DarkSector> sarkis: working here mawn
[17:53] <sarkis> hmmmm
[17:53] <sarkis> really weird
[17:54] <DarkSector> sarkis: actually www.facebook.com works not facebook.com
[17:54] <DarkSector> sarkis: it is wierd
[17:54] <sarkis> DarkSector: have you clicked on any of the ajax stuff?
[17:54] <sarkis> like at the top, messages
[17:55] <DarkSector> sarkis: well only www.facebook.com opens and yes I have clicked that stuff
[17:55] <sarkis> cool thanks
[17:56] <dean> Hi all I have tried to do a movie backup using dvd95 and k9copy and I am not able to do it is there anything I need to install or am I doing something wrong?
[17:56] <sarkis> hey guys any ideas on how to make fonts look nicer on ubuntu? i want to use Inconsolata for coding like i do on OSX, however, it just doesnt look the same... I'm using Inconsolata Medium and its too skinny?
[17:56] <sarkis> Wondering if you guys are using bold?
[17:56] <DarkSector> okay dpkg question, how do I solve this? And the problem is I just have a .deb package for it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/631286/
[17:57] <DarkSector> isn't there a specific dpkg channel?
[17:57] <nimbiotics> hello evry1. I need help sharing my internet connection using firestarter. I followed the wizar, but everytime I try to start the firewall, I get "the device eth0 is not ready". Can someone please guide me? TIA!
[17:57] <sipior> sarkis: you can change the font hinting in the appearances dialogue
[17:57] <Pici> DarkSector: Did you do what it suggested?
[17:57] <DarkSector> Pici: can't re-install, the prompt just hangs up
[17:58] <fission6> i put an audio cd in my cd drive and nothing is happening, looks like its not mounted or something, what should i do / check
[17:58] <fission6> (i havent played or used my cd drive in ages)
[17:58] <DarkSector> Pici: I have two packages 1. python-elementtree and python-celementtree _both_ are stuck
[17:58] <jjovereats> Fission6, you are doing everything right so far.
[17:58] <fission6> jjovereats, nothing has happened
[17:58] <DarkSector> Pici: dpkg: warning: files list file for package `python-elementtree' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[17:59] <guntar> hey
[17:59] <fission6> i put the cd in and was hoping for an app to open
[17:59] <DarkSector> Pici: keeps unpacking, never proceeds
[17:59] <jjovereats> Insert CD, then go into Totem, then File > Play 'CD NAME HERE'
[17:59] <fission6> DarkSector, what does elementree do?
[17:59] <DarkSector> fission6: its a part of pyogre installation
[17:59] <fission6> Totem?
[17:59] <guntar> hello
[17:59] <Pici> DarkSector: Can you try using --force-all when you remove the package?
[17:59] <DarkSector> fission6: http://effbot.org/zone/celementtree.htm
[17:59] <dean> Or could someone tell me a channel to go to for software support?
[18:00] <DarkSector> Pici: I hope that won't break the system?
[18:00] <Pici> DarkSector: or just --force-remove-reinstreq
[18:00] <fission6> sudo apt-get install Torem jjovereats ?
[18:00] <jjovereats> totem. If you're in Xfce, or Kde, you go sudo aptitude install totem.
[18:00] <fission6> lets see
[18:01] <DarkSector> Pici: now, since its stuck, I'll have to kill dpkg process and remove lock, is that a safe way to do it. It doesn't entertain keyboard interrupts anymore
[18:01] <footfetish> Hi, could anybody tell me how to install the latest version of Firefox on Ubuntu 10.10?
[18:01] <pappa_bear> dean: depends on the software
[18:01] <Pici> DarkSector: Thats the safest way, yes :/
[18:01] <guntar> ya
[18:01] <fission6> jjovereats, installing now
[18:01] <DarkSector> footfetish: download the firefox repository and install
[18:01] <guntar> gz.tar
[18:01] <pappa_bear> footfetish: or use synaptic
[18:02] <Pici> !ff5 | footfetish
[18:02] <fission6> chrome seems to be eating up memory on my box, i am thinking about trying ff too
[18:02] <pappa_bear> chrome sux
[18:02] <Pici> pappa_bear: Please keep your opinions to yourself.
[18:02] <fission6> why so
[18:02] <footfetish> thx
[18:02] <DarkSector> fission6: _ff_ takes way more memory than chrome
[18:02] <fission6> id like to hear pappa_bear out
[18:02] <pappa_bear> sry
[18:02] <jjovereats> f6, installed yet?
[18:03] <guntar> anybody tell me how to install google chorme
[18:03] <DarkSector> pappa_bear: please don't get me started on gecko. nvm.
[18:03] <Pici> pappa_bear, fission6, DarkSector:Feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[18:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> when I am away from my computer for more than 1 hour when I come back my mouse will not click on anything I changed out my mouse with another one and it still didnt work... this only happen after upgrading ... what can I do to fix this issue
[18:03] <dean> pappa_bear, I have tried to use k9copy and dvd95 but getting error messages I'm not sure whether I need to install anything else or whether it just wont run under gnome?
[18:03] <fission6> something maybe just messy with the build i have cause my computer, since upgrading chrome, just has little memory and is very glitchy then again i have 1 gig of mem
[18:03] <DarkSector> Pici: gotcha
[18:03] <Pici> guntar: Chrome is in the package repositories.
[18:03] <guntar> fuck u man
[18:04] <aeon-ltd> !chrome | guntar
[18:04] <DarkSector> what
[18:04] <DarkSector> bai
[18:04] <DarkSector> haha
[18:05] <gohdan> dean: do you have libdvdcss installed?
[18:05] <fission6> is it concernith 1 gig of ram i st be able to run chrome, xchat and audacious, without getting really glitchy? ifeel i may have something not configured correctly
[18:05] <shafire> how can i check, if i have the server or desktop version?
[18:06] <dean> gohdan, I installed restricted extras would it be in that?
[18:06] <footfetish> I added the sources to my sources.list
[18:06] <footfetish> How can I verify the key now?
[18:06] <Pici> footfetish: How did you add it?
[18:06] <jjovereats> At 512MB Debian with IW (the Debian equivalent of FF and IE), ID (equiv. to Outlook and TBird), and Totem running, it will run like a charm from my estimates.
[18:06] <io> !version | shafire
[18:06] <arooni-mobile> when trying to install apps on ubuntu 11.04 via downloading and launching debs from chrome; i get: "Could not display "/home/david/Downloads/ubuntu-tweak_0.5.12-1~natty1_all.deb".;  this location is not a folder"
[18:06] <shafire> thank you
[18:06] <DarkSector> Pici: --force-remove-reinstreq is that a valid option ?
[18:07] <gohdan> dean: correct
[18:07] <footfetish> Pici: I added I copied and pasted it from the link given.
[18:07] <fission6> jjovereats, yeah i feel i have something just chewing memory, can you recommend a few things to check - i feel i can streamline my machine a bit more to run snappier i just dont know where to start
[18:07] <footfetish> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[18:07] <footfetish> Then I did an sudo apt-get update
[18:07] <jjovereats> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop , f6.
[18:07] <Pici> footfetish: You should use 'sudo add-apt-repository' instead, that will automatically add the keys and the source to your sources.
[18:07] <dean> gohdan, I installed that straight away lol
[18:08] <footfetish> Pici: Now what?
[18:08] <fission6> what will that do, i think i am actually using xubuntu-desktop
[18:08] <Pici> footfetish: you can use 'sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> ' now though, use the key on the PPA url.
[18:08] <Pici> DarkSector: It should be, is it not working?
[18:08] <fission6> jjovereats, xubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[18:08] <fission6> i think its tailoring things not sure where to start
[18:09] <DarkSector> Pici: need an action option
[18:09] <arooni-mobile> E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-restricted-extras ... how do i fix.  i have uncommeted all the deb listings in /etc/apt/source.list
[18:09] <fission6> jjovereats, htop shows 880 M / 1000M being taken when running chrome, 5 terminal tabs, and xchat
[18:09] <chaddy> arooni-mobile: try aptitude update
[18:09] <gohdan> dean: what were the errors you got?
[18:10] <Pici> DarkSector: You need to that along with the remove that you were using before: dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq packagename
[18:10] <footfetish> Pici: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 1024R/CE49EC21 this does not work
[18:10] <jjovereats> f6, HUUUUHH? Try FF3. I have 1.7GiB of mem in my laptop, after deducting video RAM!
[18:10] <BluesKaj> arooni-mobile, run sudo apt-get update first then try to install
[18:10] <Pici> footfetish: drop the 1024R/ from the front of that.
[18:10] <das__> hi
[18:10] <AlexandrosGR> hello
[18:10] <fission6> what do you mean? i just feel my machine should be running smoother and that something is less than ideal in terms of config
[18:10] <fission6> but i dont know where to start my review
[18:11] <jjovereats> Run Computer Janitor. It may help.
[18:11] <AlexandrosGR> is any program that allow me to set up myself the gpu fans ?
[18:11] <footfetish> Pici: That seems to have worked. Thx a lot!
[18:11] <dean> gohdan, On dvd95 it just shows conversion error and on k9copy it shows Executable k9copy PID 11564 signal 11 (segmentation fault)
[18:11] <gohdan> AlexandrosGR: 'sensors'
[18:11] <fission6> jjovereats, any other fundemental thingas i can check?
[18:11] <DarkSector> Pici: okay now I think both are gone, but how do I check the integrity of dpkg, I mean how do I know, I didn't wreck it. Should I try and install something?
[18:11] <Pici> DarkSector: Sure, go ahead.
[18:11] <AlexandrosGR> no that
[18:11] <AlexandrosGR> i want to increase gpu fans
[18:12] <jjovereats> fission6, Run System Monitor, the GNOME one, and go to Processes. If there is a drop-down tree, press Ctrl-D. Now click Memory, and see what's at the top. That will advise you about the smartest app decisions.
[18:12] <arooni-mobile> BluesKaj, chaddy i did aptitude upgrade; and ran update;  still cant install
[18:12] <gohdan> AlexandrosGR: sorry. misread
[18:12] <DarkSector> Pici: thanks, it works.
[18:12] <Pici> DarkSector: good to hear
[18:12]  * gohdan happens a lot now that i quit smoking today
[18:13] <fission6> i have htop, and sort by memory, is that equivlent?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> arooni-mobile, sudo aptitude safe-upgrade?
[18:13] <jjovereats> fission6, It is if you can read how much memory is in use.
[18:13] <fission6> i get /use/bin/X taking up 34% of memory but that seems okay right?
[18:13] <jjovereats> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop , and relogin into Lubuntu Desktop.
[18:14] <fission6> four pulse audio processing running each taking 6%
[18:14] <fission6> does that last thing seem right?
[18:15] <jjovereats> It's normal for PA.
[18:15] <misaq> hello everyone
[18:15] <das__> hi
[18:15] <junixbr> hi all
[18:15] <misaq> what happens if utorrent downloads on a file partially downloaded in Ubuntu?
[18:16] <fission6> lubuntu hmmm ill try and see if experience is better
[18:16] <jjovereats> misaq - the file may or may not become working.
[18:16] <fission6> can i use chrome, totem, etc.
[18:16] <jjovereats> fission6 - Chrome is no good IMO.
[18:16] <fission6> why so
[18:16] <junixbr> I change my keyboard and now I have 2 layouts... I've tryed to remove Brazilian Layout, but after rebooting, it comes again...
[18:16] <das__> I like Chrome
[18:16] <fission6> and what do you use
[18:16] <junixbr> the question is, how can I remove for ever a keyboard layout
[18:16] <junixbr> ?
[18:16] <jjovereats> Chrome is silly because it has no gopher support. I use FF4 with OverbiteFF.
[18:16] <misaq> jjovereats: is it better to delete the file and download again?
[18:17] <jjovereats> Yes.
[18:17] <fission6> jjovereats, "lubuntu-desktop: Depends: wicd but it is not going to be installed"
[18:17] <jjovereats> sudo apt-get install lxde
[18:17] <misaq> jjovereats: you mean the file has been overwritten?
[18:17] <jjovereats> misaq - Maybe not.
[18:17] <fission6> ok doing
[18:17] <fission6> jjovereats, what irc client do you use?
[18:17] <jjovereats> XChat.
[18:18] <das__> Xchat
[18:18] <fission6> damn ok thats what i am using, i just dont understand why my machine aint faster, grr, i have to choose whether to run xchat or gedit at times
[18:18] <kuroy> @junixbr: I used to have the same problem when I used Brazilian Portuguese Layout and tried to change to English.
[18:18] <kuroy> Then I changed the layout to Dvorak English and it worked smoothly
[18:18] <junixbr> kuroy, my wish is remove the brazilian layout
[18:19] <kuroy> Yes, I see.
[18:19] <junixbr> yes is working, but each reboot it comes again
[18:19] <Raptors> how do you see the list of partitions?
[18:19] <kuroy> I had the same problem, it kept coming back
[18:19] <jjovereats> sudo fdisk -l
[18:19] <junixbr> kuroy, so bored this.. =(
[18:19] <fission6> jjovereats, after lxde what should i do?
[18:20] <kuroy> until I used Dvorak English, but it was some time ago and I don't know if it works maintaning Qwerty layout
[18:20] <jjovereats> fission6, are you in LXDE yet, or are you not going to go that route? :: You should also install Firefox. or Midori. Both work.
[18:20] <kuroy> maybe some problem with portuguese layout
[18:20] <jjovereats> etaolin shdrlu
[18:20] <junixbr> maybe
[18:20] <misaq> I added the torrent to bittorrent in Windows and it downloaded a little. then I downloaded 1.5 G over it in Ubuntu. then in Windows, I noticed that it was downloading as if the 1.5 G was never downloaded.
[18:20] <fission6> well i installed LXDE should i log in an out to use it?
[18:20] <jjovereats> fission6, yes you should.
[18:20] <fission6> let me try
[18:21] <junixbr> next version, I'll reinstall
[18:21] <jjovereats> kk
[18:21] <gohdan> dean: did you run the installer script too?
[18:21] <DarkSector> Pici: I was wrong, the thing is fried. Upgrading skype and it is stuck at unpacking
[18:21] <DarkSector> Pici: I am doomed.
[18:21] <misaq> who has experience with transmission-gtk?
[18:22] <DarkSector> misaq: define experience
[18:22] <DarkSector> misaq: downloading torrents thats all the experience I have
[18:22] <dean> gohdan, i don't understand what you mean by that?
[18:23] <fission6> jjovereats, oh my god htop shows 300M thats amazing
[18:23] <jjovereats> Ok.
[18:23] <misaq> DarkSector I had a torrent file added both in Win and Ubuntu transmission.
[18:23] <fission6> jjovereats, what terminal do you use btw?
[18:23] <gohdan> !tell dean about restricted
[18:23] <DarkSector> misaq: and...
[18:24] <jjovereats> Is that with Chrome, Audacious and XChat running fission6? :: I use Gnome-terminal and Xfce4-terminal.
[18:24] <fission6> jjovereats, no, i haven't run those processes yet
[18:24] <jjovereats> I aslo use the TTYs.
[18:24] <fission6> can i tweak some of lxde to make it someone slicker
[18:24] <jjovereats> Run them and see what you get (of couse you are running XChat)
[18:24] <misaq> DarkSector: after I had downloaded 1.45 G in Ubuntu, i logged in Windows and the Win torrent client started downloading as if nothing had been downloaded before.
[18:25] <misaq> DarkSector: i want to know if my file is healthy or corrupt
[18:25] <DelphiWorld> hey
[18:26] <dean> gohdan, I will check it out thanks
[18:26] <misaq> DarkSector: should I download it from scratch? has Windows' torrent client spoiled the file?
[18:26] <fission6> jjovereats,  i installed totem but dont see in under sound and video, i want to try and run it and play audio cd
[18:26] <DarkSector> misaq: come back to ubuntu and try downloading it, it it downloads from scratch, means its gone, if not then its fine
[18:26] <madadam1> sorry, which is mac protocol for file sharing? I forgot
[18:26] <shafire> how to get latest ruby version? :S
[18:26] <jjovereats> Start > Run > type "totem", and enter.
[18:27] <DarkSector> OKAY I AM TIRED. I AM FKING GETTING RID OF UBUNTU
[18:27] <misaq> DarkSector: it downloads from the remaining of file, i.e. after 1.45 G
[18:27] <jjovereats> Start meaning the little LXDE icon.
[18:27] <fission6> got it! thanks jjovereats
[18:27] <tommythev> Looking for help with a Ubuntu install. I installed a recent version on an older dell laptop. Everything went fine til the install ended. Turns out that version of Ubuntu doesnt support the graphics in the Dell. I found out that an ealier version is supposed to work, But when I try to boot from the install disk, I get the same GRUB screen I got before. How can I boot from the CD
[18:28] <misaq> I even verified local data and no warning occurred. I don't have much experience using torrent
[18:28] <jjovereats> And yes, I do overeat. Hence my unregistered nick, jjovereats,]
[18:28] <fission6> still under 400 M
[18:28] <jjovereats> Good so far!
[18:28] <gohdan> !tell tommythev about alternate
[18:29] <fission6> jjovereats, yeah, hmmmm
[18:29] <fission6> itll take a bit for me to get used to lxde
[18:29] <fission6> maybe need to jazz it up
[18:29] <jjovereats> fission6 - Do you actually have Chromium open yet? Or Totem?
[18:30] <fission6> totem, xchat, xterm, chrome
[18:30] <arooni-mobile>  /join #empathetic
[18:30] <misaq> what is the meaning of underline before the name of some nicks?
[18:30] <tommythev> ubottu and gohdan
[18:30] <tommythev> thanks
[18:31] <fission6> dont really like the menu bar in lxde maybe ill get used ot it
[18:31] <jjovereats> It's like the Windows "Taskbar".
[18:31] <fission6> yeah can i change that out
[18:31] <fission6> i need to change the system font
[18:32] <fission6> very small
[18:32] <misaq> yes it is like Windows taskbar
[18:32] <dean> Hi I am unable to play dvds is there something I need to install?
[18:32] <misaq> gnome is the best desktop I think
[18:32] <Pici> !who
[18:32] <jjovereats> 1569 people here?
[18:33] <pappa_bear> here is relative :)
[18:33] <misaq> !tab Pici
[18:33] <misaq> like this?
[18:33] <Pici> misaq: no, use your tab key.
[18:33] <larryosborne> anyone know how to get evalution to show all content
[18:33] <Pici> !tab | misaq
[18:33] <misaq> !misaq
[18:34] <misaq> !Pici
[18:34] <Pici> misaq: start typing the nick of the person you are talking to, and press tab.
[18:34] <Pici> misaq: Please don't start your messages with exclamation marks, you confuse our bot, ubottu.
[18:34] <fission6> where do i change system font?
[18:35] <misaq> Pici, is it ok?
[18:35] <chaddy> ith unity how do I access the main menu?
[18:35] <Pici> misaq: great.
[18:35] <chaddy> with*
[18:35] <misaq> Pici, thx
[18:35] <jjovereats> !tab | jjovereats
[18:35] <jjovereats> Sorry, that think went right over my scrollbars.
[18:35] <larryosborne> misaq, how do you get evolution to show the pics in the inbox do you know
[18:35] <fission6> whats a good font for xterm?
[18:36] <admgy22> what steps should I take to remove a previous admin who had been malicious on the server?  is removing his ssh key enough, or are there other things?
[18:36] <Pici> fission6: Whatever you like best.  Maybe #ubuntu-offtopic has some suggestions? Its not really a support question.
[18:36] <admgy22> (as well as any other unknown ssh keys)
[18:36] <misaq> larryosborne, I haven't used this feature?
[18:36] <misaq> larryosborne, does it have such a feature?
[18:36] <larryosborne> misaq, ok thanks
[18:36] <chaddy> admgy22: passwd -l <user> to lock his/her account
[18:36]  * jjovereats will implode in 55555555555 nanoseconds.
[18:36] <tiako> Hello I cant seem to remove " .vimrc$g0" for some reason
[18:36] <chaddy> prevents login
[18:37] <larryosborne> misaq, not shure all i know is i can't see the add's and stuff in my mail
[18:37] <ry> using a LVM root/swap is it possible to "extend" my swap to be slightly larger without breaking anything/
[18:37] <misaq> larryosborne, do you mean adding pictures corresponding to your Contacts like that of Windows Outlook?
[18:38] <ry> and if so, do i need to change anything other than the size of the swap volume using lvm?
[18:38] <fission6> Pici, where can i change the appearance fonts?
[18:38] <larryosborne> misaq, no i mean checking my mail but can't all of it , just the word's is all it will display
[18:38] <Pici> fission6: It should be in your appearance preferences.
[18:38] <Guest99752> I despereately need help. I reinstalled nvidia drivers from scratch but it still tries to boot into low graphics mode and then freezes within istants
[18:38] <juan_> hola
[18:38] <Pici> !es | juan_
[18:39] <misaq> larryosborne,  what email service do you use?
[18:39] <larryosborne> misaq, gmail i thank is what you are asking
[18:39] <juan_> gracias
[18:39] <misaq> larryosborne, ok
[18:40] <jjovereats> fission6 - Are you still here?
[18:40] <fission6> yeah
[18:40] <fission6> trying to find a font i h ave a headache
[18:40] <misaq> larryosborne, I did not use gmail with Evolution but I have tried Hotmail and it was ok
[18:40] <misaq> larryosborne, maybe gmail will work too.
[18:40] <jjovereats> Go into customise appearance in Settings, and change to liking.
[18:41] <ubuntu__> 've already got ubuntu installed and I'm trying to make my 75g ext4 partition 25g.  It seems stuck, but how do I check if it borked, or if it's just taking a while?
[18:41] <larryosborne> misaq, ok , well maybe something in gmail i need to change to make it work i'll log in threw google and see thanks alot
[18:41] <rypervenche> ry: Yes, it is possible. I have yet to do it on my system, I have LVM on LUKS, but there are guides ou there to resizing your partitions using LVM. Check google a bit.
[18:41] <nymbda> Hello
[18:42] <ry> yeah, my question is... if i resize swap simply through LVM and thats -all- i do, will it break anything?
[18:42] <kingofswords> any 1 know a good megavideo bypass for ubuntu?
[18:42] <ry> do i need to restart the system or... update fstab? does the uuid change or anything?
[18:42] <rypervenche> ry: It won't break anything as long as you have the space to share.
[18:42] <ry> awesome =)
[18:42] <OerHeks> kingofswords, what do you mean with 'megavideo bypass ' ?
[18:43] <ry> i have 8gb ram in this laptop, but barely 2gb swap... when the system runs out of mem, gnome shits itself and takes everything down with it
[18:43] <kingofswords> to get around 72mins limit
[18:43] <rypervenche> ry: Everything else stays the same. You are just allocating some of the unused space of one logical volume toanother.
[18:43] <ghabit> Hello! I'm looking for PDF converter. To .doc or something. Help!
[18:43] <aeon-ltd> kingofswords: i don't think something that would work out of the browser would work, but i assume you have good intentions so http://www.megavideo9.com/
[18:43] <ry> yeah
[18:43] <RedRobot> ry: buy more ram
[18:43] <ry> i'm allocating swap out of my 120gb ssd
[18:43] <ry> it's a thinkpad t510
[18:43] <ry> it only supports 8gb
[18:43] <RedRobot> ry: or limit your ram usage more
[18:43] <RedRobot> fix those memleaks
[18:43] <ry> i have debated getting the w520 (supports 16gb )
[18:44] <aeon-ltd> ghabit: i know and have used pdftohtml which also converts them to HQ jpgs
[18:44] <ry> but i think i'll pass, save the 2k and wait for intel to release romley so i can snag a nice xeon e5 series for my workstation
[18:44] <z3ro> anybody know about DSC
[18:44] <ry> discovery channel?
[18:44] <aeon-ltd> z3ro: digital sony camera?
[18:44] <biami> whats DSC?
[18:45] <biami> Data Structure in C... right???
[18:45] <z3ro> DNS Static Collector
[18:45] <biami> nope
[18:45] <aeon-ltd> *everyone turns back around again*
[18:46] <aeon-ltd> z3ro: might be better in #networking
[18:46] <BluesKaj> z3ro, in what context ?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> oops
[18:47] <ry> interesting... it seems swap volumes are not resizeable
[18:47] <z3ro> http://dns.measurement-factory.com/tools/dsc/
[18:47] <ry> probably need to make a new one, but i guess my only worries h ave been answered
[18:47] <ry> basically just replace it
[18:47] <aeon-ltd> ry: wait is it mounted?
[18:47] <ry> what would happen if i umounted a active swap?
[18:47] <fission6> jjovereats, cant get to System Prefernces, lxde doesn't have a menu in the taskbar for it?
[18:48] <chaddy> in Unity how do I call the main menu?
[18:48] <aeon-ltd> ry: unles you were running something that caches a lot much like GIMP roughly nothing harmful (most of the time - just saying not liable for any problems)
[18:48] <chaddy> all I can seem to get is the main menu editor
[18:49] <RedRobot> ry: what are you running that manages to eat up all that ram btw?
[18:49] <stratis_> in 10.04 RAID1 array won't boot from second disk when degraded, any help ?
[18:50] <jo-erlend_live> how do I reinstall Ubuntu desktop on an md array from the desktop cd?
[18:50] <io> !reinstall | jo-erlend_live
[18:50] <io> hm, unusual
[18:51] <jo-erlend_live> I know how to reinstall Ubuntu. I don't know how to reinstall Ubuntu on an md array.
[18:51] <jo-erlend_live> perhaps I just need to start the md and then partition as normal?
[18:51] <jo-erlend_live> s/partition/proceed/ :)
[18:51] <z3ro> #networking user already slep..hahah
[18:53] <biami> chaddy, no main menu in unity... you need to log in to Ubuntu Classic (GNOME 2.6) to use the menu
[18:54] <biami> i think
[18:54] <dr_willis> biami,  theres some inticator applets taht let you get a gnome-menu in unity :)
[18:54] <dr_willis> and theres that cardiro application also
[18:54] <jo-erlend_live> biami, you can run gnome-panel with all its applets together with Unity.
[18:54] <dr_willis> puts one in the panel :)
[18:54] <dr_willis> gnome-panel over unity - is a little messy
[18:54] <chaddy> biami: all I need is the name of the app, got as far as alacarte, the editor
[18:54] <biami> how?
[18:55] <dr_willis> biami,  how to what part? :)
[18:55] <jo-erlend_live> biami, just run gnome-panel as a normal application.
[18:55] <jo-erlend_live> you can add it to startup applications if you want it to always start when you login. But you should remove the upper panel first, since Unity panel will take precedence.
[18:56] <biami> ok
[18:56] <biami> thanks
[18:56] <jo-erlend_live> I don't personally understand that anyone would want to keep using static menus though, but I'm glad they have the freedom to do so :)
[18:57] <Guest99752> I have spent the past 5 hours struggling with this problem: After a nvdia-driver mess up, I lost the ability to boot into graphics (low graphics mode freezes too). I tried to reinstall them in many ways, trough package manager and trough the nvidia site, tried removing modules but nothing: It still tries to boot into low graphics mode then freezes (even after a purge and a clean nvidia-current install) If anyone is willi
[18:57] <Guest99752> ng to help me, please PM, thanks
[18:57] <rhizmoe> Guest99752: uninstall and reinstall gdm
[18:57] <user> jo-erlend_live: What is static menus? I use alt+f2 for programs I know the name of
[18:57] <rhizmoe> that's what worked for me when i had a similar problem
[18:57] <Guest99752> thanks, will try in seconds
[18:57] <jo-erlend_live> user, the menus doesn't learn from your choices. They're always the same.
[18:57] <Somelauw> Hi, I can't see my battery status and I get random crashes.
[18:58] <user> jo-erlend_live: Well, yeah it would be great if spotify knew I always look for it under "internet" and moved there too
[18:58] <pilesofstones> Hi everyone. Could anyone advise me if there are any disadvantages to me running a 64bit version of Ubuntu on a VMWare virtual machine? I.e. compatibility issues etc
[18:58] <jo-erlend_live> user, I would prefer that Spotify was the first choice when I pressed super whenever I wanted to listen to music. :)
[18:59] <user> Security Mode : Auto (WPA or WPA2) - Personal
[18:59] <user> Cipher Type : TKIP and AES
[18:59] <techaddikt> any one give me the dicscription about uck
[18:59] <Guest99752> rhizmoe, still same problem. drops me into lowgraphics warning, then ok and freeze
[18:59] <user> Is that a safe network?
[18:59] <chaddy> seems a bit of a kludgey way of accessing th main menu, but gnome-panel it is
[18:59] <user> jo-erlend_live: Super does nothing here
[18:59] <jo-erlend_live> user, you're probably not running Unity then?
[19:00] <user> Just sits there as a reminder of what once reigned its hardware, like a flag of a sunken ship
[19:00] <user> jo-erlend_live: Gnome vanilla
[19:00] <Somelauw> Is it normal that ubuntu decides to not shown my battery status?
[19:00] <user> I grew to old to mess about with layout and such
[19:00] <ry> run acpi -V
[19:00] <ry> and verify your bat. status
[19:00]  * jjovereats might be installing Debian. Oh goodie!!!
[19:01] <jo-erlend_live> user, layout? Unity is all about business for me. It improves my productivity dramatically.
[19:01] <ry> lol
[19:01] <user> Oh
[19:01] <techaddikt> Algorith:  hay do u know about the uck
[19:01] <techaddikt> wainersm: ping
[19:01] <user> My computer would make me more productive with no-script enforced, and just Oo
[19:01] <techaddikt> halvors: ping
[19:01] <dr_willis> Unity makes me more unproductive.. at least it did untill i tweaked the  life into it.
[19:01] <techaddikt> halvors: ping
[19:01] <ry> i have not really given unity a chance, i'll admit... but i have a feeling i'll be sticking with gnome 2.x
[19:02] <techaddikt> joar: ping
[19:02] <dr_willis> jo-erlend_live,  move the icon for whatever you want to be super-1 to the top iof the panel..  is one trick
[19:03] <ry> we just need a neuro interface, instead of a mouse... as the "first" step in many to improve the dated user interface
[19:03] <pilesofstones> anyone?
[19:03] <Guest99752> whats the command to get all the installed packages and to drop them into a text file?
[19:03] <jo-erlend_live> dr_willis, right. I love it. And that the menus displays and hides files and folders automatically when I add and remove external data sources is just wonderful.
[19:03] <ry> a mixture of advanced multi-touch and thought based interaction
[19:03] <dr_willis> jo-erlend_live,  you mean the icons on the panel for mounted devices? I had to remove all of those.. i had way way way to many for it to show.
[19:04] <dr_willis> jo-erlend_live,  plus all the icons were identical.. made it to hard to find the one i wanted. :)
[19:04] <ry> strphen hawking can write books with his eye, i think we can use a combined input to control a gui
[19:04] <jo-erlend_live> dr_willis, no, recent files and folders lense.
[19:04] <jo-erlend_live> super+f in other words.
[19:04] <dr_willis> jo-erlend_live,  oh the 'watch out or the wife will see your "videos"' tool. :)
[19:04] <jo-erlend_live> haha
[19:04] <dr_willis> I rarely hafe an issue with loseing files...
[19:05] <gohdan> ry: unity is the antithesis of accessibility
[19:05] <jo-erlend_live> it's not about loosing files. It's about finding files I need in less than three seconds. I hate trudging across filesystem paths.
[19:05] <jo-erlend_live> sorry. I didn't mean to start a discussion. That's for #ubuntu-offtopic.
[19:06] <ry> lol
[19:06] <jo-erlend_live> I have two md arrays. One raid1 which / is on, and one raid5 which contains /home. Now I want to install 11.04 on it using the desktop cd. How do I do that?
[19:06] <gohdan> ry: lol?  screen readers dont work properly and there is a whole host of accessibility issues
[19:06] <jo-erlend_live> does the installer understand it if I just start the md?
[19:06] <dr_willis> Hmm. Just transcoded a movie with Arista - it aparently defaulted to the 'Movies' directory.. but there is no Movies Directiory.. so it seems to have tanscoded for the last hr+ then just deleted the results...
[19:06] <ry> that was a "lol aka i know"
[19:06] <ry> o_0
[19:07] <winut> does anyone actually like unity? lol
[19:07] <Riberty> no
[19:07] <ry> you did not measure the frequency of my lol, which would of told you the proper meaning
[19:07] <gohdan> ry: poe's law
[19:07] <winut> :-)
[19:07] <IdleOne> dr_willis: look in Videos
[19:07] <jo-erlend_live> winut, I absolutely love it.
[19:07] <pappa_bear> come on guys #ubuntu-offtopic to just chat
[19:07] <ry> possibly some form of spectral analysis of the lol
[19:07] <ry> might of revealed the proper version
[19:08] <oCean> ry: please stay on topic
[19:08] <dr_willis> IdleOne,  nope not there.. found it.. it defaulted to where i selected the movie from.. so it put it in the same place  as original difernt extension
[19:08] <winut> i find it odd that i have to stick my mouee right into the corner of the screen to get it to open
[19:08] <IdleOne> dr_willis: least it didn't delete it
[19:08] <vcabba> Im using laptop with external display on Ubuntu 11.04 for a few monts with laptops lid closed... Now i disconnect external monitor but primary display is blank - everything sends to external, even bios's logo. Why ?
[19:09] <ry> vcabba, i have the same issue at times with my thinkpad t510
[19:09]  * gohdan wonders what the accessibilty team is doing, or if anyone at canonical hq is listening to them
[19:09] <ry> linux and laptops dont always get along 100%
[19:09] <phrostbite> green91, Hey you helped me yesterday but I did not get a chance to thank you for the help. That teamviewer worked like a dream. Super easy to set up on both ends.
[19:10] <ry> odds are you had the screen disabled in your monitor/display settings
[19:11] <ry> actually thats a good question, if there is a way to control the "monitor preferences" from the cmd, run a script when your laptop is ready to leave it's closed desk position and actually serve as a laptop
[19:11] <winut> some kind of force redect
[19:11] <winut> redetect even!
[19:12] <vcabba> yes primary display is disabled, but the problem is that is not detected anymore... external as primary for now..
[19:12] <ry> well it has a function to do so, but usually to get the display working properly with the laptop closed you have to disable the laptops lcd from within linux
[19:12] <ry> it seems like it does remember the settings, but not always
[19:12] <ak5> does anyone here have a lenovo thinkpad edge 11 with the newest bios and tell me how he/she did it? I am trying to fool around with grub4dos and its not pleasent
[19:12] <ak5> pleasant*
[19:14] <winut> ak5, grub is easy if you have another partition
[19:14] <winut> how many do you have?
[19:14] <ak5> winut: I have one USB disk
[19:14] <ak5> usb thumbdrive that it
[19:14] <ak5> is*
[19:14] <jo-erlend_live> isn't it possible to reinstall Ubuntu on a software raid from the desktop cd?
[19:15] <Furry> Is is possible to install java 6 on ubuntu 6.06?
[19:15] <winut> doesn't grub pick up the internal disc then?
[19:15] <RedRobot> Furry: I would upgrade asap
[19:15] <ak5> winut: I have nothing installed on the internal disk, I want grub to boot the update bios iso
[19:15] <jo-erlend_live> Furry, 6.06 is unsupported.
[19:16] <RedRobot> Furry: 5 year and full of outdated buggy and insecure software, also not supported anymore
[19:16] <RedRobot> 5 year old*
[19:16] <winut> cant you just change the boot order to cd first?
[19:16] <Furry> I'd upgrade, but I'm too lazy, since I'm just fooling around with an old computer I have
[19:16] <ak5> winut: I have no cd drive (nor external)
[19:17] <ak5> thats why I am playing around with grub4dos
[19:17] <winut> oh, sorry!
[19:17] <ak5> don't worry, I am probaby being short spoken because I am annoyed by this problem xD
[19:17] <chaddy> no optical drive? that's not a first world problem
[19:18] <winut> maybe there is a generic guide you can follow for this, non ubuntu related on how to make a cd boot off a usb stick (separate one) ?
[19:18] <RedRobot> just use an usb stick then
[19:18] <RedRobot> boot from usb works
[19:18] <winut> otherwise you can make a dos boot usb with the app and bios files
[19:18] <ak5> winut: yeah, thats what I tried
[19:19] <winut> what happened?
[19:19] <ak5> grub4dos booted from my usb drive, but didn't boot my BOOT.iso (with the BIOS update)
[19:20] <ak5> winut: ^
[19:20] <Somelauw> Is it normal that ubuntu decides to not show my battery status?
[19:21] <jo-erlend_live> surely, someone has to know if it's possible to install Ubuntu on an existing raid?
[19:21] <winut> ak5, never done this but it sounds plausable
[19:21] <winut> what format is the usb stick?
[19:21] <chaddy> jo-erlend_live: don't know but it sounds like the sort of thing you might need the alternate installer for
[19:22] <ak5> winut: vfat
[19:22] <winut> is that fat16?
[19:22] <friendyman> i have a problem with one of my dedicated ubuntu servers, suddenly without any configuration changes it has stopped responding, i've hard reset it, and the ssh connection is refused, i've booted it in rescue mode, but didn't find any errors in the logs, what can I try next?
[19:23] <ak5> I believe it is fat32
[19:23] <ak5> but not sure..
[19:23] <winut> keep searching on google m8, cant advise any better atm!
[19:23] <ak5> ok thx
[19:24] <friendyman> its not a hdd, memory or cpu problem, i ran a test in rescue on those
[19:24] <Hedgehog456> How do I free up RAM on my 256MB server with 256MB swap?
[19:24] <chaddy> friendyman: router configuration been changed or reset?
[19:24] <friendyman> i have no control over the router
[19:24] <friendyman> assume no
[19:25] <friendyman> it's in a datacenter
[19:25] <th0r> Hedgehog456: on a small ram system you should have about 2.5 times ram for  swap
[19:25] <ghabit> Hello. Why openoffice have new name now? Just installed new ubuntu
[19:25] <Hedgehog456> th0r: I can only afford that much VPS resources.
[19:26] <Ampelbein> friendyman: what is the actual error you get?
[19:27] <th0r> Hedgehog456: well, stuff has to go somewhere. If you can't increase the swap size the only other way to free up ram is to stop some of the services
[19:27] <friendyman> i don't know of any error, all i can see is that ssh connection refused
[19:27] <friendyman> i can only mount the hdd in rescue mode and look through the logs and try and connect normally through ssh, dedicated server
[19:27] <Hedgehog456> th0r: I stopped a particularly memory-intensive service, how long will it take for the RAM to recover? Thanks
[19:27] <demonspork> in Chrome in Ubuntu, how do I enable the built in Flash for Chrome, because it appears to be using the system plugin, which is woefully out of date.
[19:28] <friendyman> no firewall installed, no configuration changed
[19:28] <Ampelbein> friendyman: yes, what is the actual response from ssh?
[19:28] <Ampelbein> friendyman: like, paste the command and output (you can remove the servername)
[19:28] <D-F3NS> hey guys, im trying to get rid of the home dir encryption. i want to copy the whole home dir to another partition. how can i copy rly everything? symlinks etc... to...
[19:28] <D-F3NS> -o
[19:28] <friendyman> i believe its something like "connection refused" i can't even connect
[19:29] <friendyman> seems like ssh daemon isn't running
[19:29] <v0lksman> anyone know where chromium stashes it's profile info?
[19:29] <thedears> русские есть?
[19:29] <Pici> !ru | thedears
[19:30] <trevor> does anyone know how to send an email through a modem connected to Bell's network with AT+ comands?
[19:30] <RedRobot> v0lksman: man chromium, see the files section near the end
[19:31] <Ampelbein> friendyman: there are multiple possible reasons. can't you just try to connect and paste the output?
[19:32] <trevor> or better described as an email by sms
[19:32] <Hedgehog456> th0r: I just disabled a huge service and the RAM is decreasing
[19:32] <ghabit> is it possible to use skype with videocam on ubuntu?
[19:33] <gohdan> ghabit: yes.
[19:33] <szal> ghabit: if you can get the videocam to act as a webcam that shouldn't be a problem?
[19:33] <ghabit> gohdan, I have installed skype software, but it's allow only voice calls
[19:33] <v0lksman> RedRobot, thx!
[19:34] <ghabit> szal, ah, cam will not work by default? )
[19:34] <gohdan> ghabit: youll need to play around with skype's and your cam's configs
[19:34] <claviusmond> can I save several open firefox tabs at once? I dont want to bookmark 30 webpages, I want to dowload the 20 pages in one simple action
[19:35] <claviusmond> 30*
[19:35] <GermainAdrian> anyone has a monitor arm?
[19:35] <Unik> anisit
[19:37] <RedRobot> GermainAdrian: I have several
[19:38] <wn1zid> @ first i thought it was my bios, it wasnt, im on a broken sabayon drive so to get here,  my ubuntu keeps rebooting, how to fix ??, this is very bothering, 10.10
[19:38] <misaq> hi! does anyone know how to read chm files in Ubuntu?
[19:38] <llutz> !info xchm
[19:39] <llutz> misaq: ^ ^
[19:41] <claviusmond> how do I access the firefox cache?
[19:41] <wn1zid>  @ first i thought it was my bios, it wasn't, im on a broken sabayon drive so to get here,  my ubuntu keeps rebooting, how to fix ??, this is very troublesome  im on 10.10.
[19:42] <gohdan> claviusmond: in what manner?
[19:42] <misaq> llutz, what?
[19:42] <llutz> misaq: ^ ^ read what ubottu said about xchm
[19:42] <claviusmond> gohdan, I want to save all the pictures from several open tabs in a simple action
[19:42] <claviusmond> gohdan, I though I could copy and paste it more easily from the cache file
[19:43] <zleslie> Hi
[19:44] <misaq> llutz, it works! thanks
[19:44] <zleslie> I am having trouble getting my natty vm to boot after a fresh install.  I am using the same pxe procedure that I used on maverick, but for some reason I never see a grub prompt or anything, just a blinking cursor and a failure to boot
[19:45] <zleslie> Anyone know what might be going wrong
[19:45] <wn1zid> heh, guess everybody is on vacation.
[19:46] <rooly> i can't seem to find any mention of this anywhere, so i'll ask before posting a bug report
[19:46] <v0lksman> zleslie, check your ACPI settings or boot the image with noacpi
[19:46] <rooly> does anyone else have trouble with indicator applets, they simply fail to open the menu when clicked on
[19:46] <rooly> i have to click on one at the far right and then scroll across each one to get to the applet i want
[19:46] <Thraspic> I'm having trouble finding a lightweight battery monitor for the system tray, and it must have customizable icons to indicate percent life remaining.  I ussed to use Battmon but something is up wth it,  Any suggestions?
[19:47] <misaq> llutz, yes i read
[19:47] <gohdan> claviusmond: there is an addon called 'downthemall' it may offer the functionality you are looking for more easily
[19:48] <PythonSnake> hi
[19:48] <gohdan> claviusmond: in any event, the cache is stored in your ~/.mozilla directory
[19:48] <PythonSnake> I wanna dual boot ubuntu and windows 7
[19:48] <Mandrew> how do i run nvidia-xconfig as sudo in the cli?
[19:48] <TTilus> how do i force re-requesting ip from dhcp server even if the lease time is not over yet
[19:48] <PythonSnake> have some problems with partition...
[19:48] <RobinJ> is the Ubuntu font family (more specifically: Ubuntu-R.ttf) free to redistribute and use?
[19:48] <GhostWolf> hi all, does anyone know how i can install firefox 4 or 4.1? i found the tar file but it just has the firefox folder and doesn't install firefox. and when i did it in terminal it tells me it can't find the package
[19:48] <PythonSnake> how much space ubuntu need ?
[19:48] <RobinJ> i'd like to use it for my website, and upload it on the server for that
[19:48] <TTilus> disconnect reconnect net doesnt seem to do that
[19:48] <llutz> TTilus: sudo dhclient3 ethX
[19:48] <v0lksman> GhostWolf, don't...install FF5...FF4 is dead.
[19:49] <GhostWolf> v0lksman, i can't use ff5. i need to use a toolbar that is not compatible with ff5
[19:49] <TTilus> llutz: just plain run dhclient?
[19:49]  * TTilus feels stupid right now
[19:49] <TTilus> =D
[19:49] <llutz> TTilus: should send a dhcp-req
[19:50] <GermainAdrian> RedRobot: can any of them be mounted in reverse? in essense i want to suspend the monitor, instead of propping it up with the arm
[19:50] <misaq> what is the difference between xterm and gnome-terminal?
[19:51] <gohdan> claviusmond: alternatively, the repetitive task of pushing ^S , ^enter and ^W multiple times works too
[19:51] <trism> RobinJ: http://font.ubuntu.com/ufl/ubuntu-font-licence-1.0.txt, the short answer would appear to be yes, but you should probably read it first
[19:51] <RobinJ> misaq: the user interface
[19:51] <RedRobot> GermainAdrian: all mines are for flat screens, so just a vesa fixture at the end
[19:51] <reyes> hi
[19:51] <RobinJ> thanks trism
[19:51] <GhostWolf> dodes anyone know how to install a previous version of firefox? i can't use the newer one since i need a toolbar that isn't compatible with firefox 5
[19:51] <RedRobot> could easily add a plate to have the monitor hang from it
[19:51] <evilbug> misaq: gnome-terminal is more customizable, supports tabs, etc. but they're still a cmd line.
[19:51] <GermainAdrian> RedRobot: mine is a flat screen as well. but i want a movable arm, so that i can adjust it, not just hang from it
[19:52] <RedRobot> the  ones I have are moveable
[19:52] <TTilus> llutz: worked
[19:52] <reyes> any person have this problem with an integrated Intel graphic http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/21/pantallazouxg.png/ ? The computers is slowly for some minutes and then the screen shows broken.
[19:52] <TTilus> llutz: thanks a bunch
[19:52] <neonofneophyte> does anyone know where, in the compiz source, the defualt settings file is?
[19:52] <llutz> TTilus: things can be so easy :)
[19:52] <wn1zid> does anyone know why ubuntu keeps rebooting ?
[19:52] <pappa_bear> GhostWolf, did you try sudo apt-get install firefox-4.0
[19:52] <RedRobot> most of them have two joints and either a fixed or ball fixture at the end
[19:52] <TTilus> llutz: with network damager onboard thats not exactly what im used to expecting  =D
[19:53] <RedRobot> ff5 is out
[19:53] <RedRobot> GhostWolf: ^
[19:53] <RA_drc> what happened to open office?  what is libre office?
[19:53] <claviusmond> gohdan, I am downloading an addon, multiple tabs
[19:53] <RedRobot> RA_drc: oracle was being morons, so a load of the openoffice devs decided to fork
[19:54] <Artlav> Hello, is there Ubuntu for MIPS, specificaly Lemote laptops? I can google a lot of talk but no builds.
[19:54] <RedRobot> RA_drc: some of the story behind it: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/LibreOffice-A-fresh-page-for-OpenOffice-1097358.html
[19:55] <GhostWolf> pappa_bear, well i didn't type it like that but let me try that
[19:55] <GhostWolf> pappa_bear, i just did that and it tells me can't find any package by regex 'firefox-4.0'
[19:55] <pappa_bear> hmm
[19:55] <GhostWolf> had same response when i did it with firefox4.0
[19:56] <D-F3NS> am i fine when i want to backup my ./home/user when i use  "rsync -avx --progress /home/user/ /mnt/tmp" make a new account, copy this backup to it, delete my old acc and make a new acc with the old username?
[19:56] <pappa_bear> GhostWolf, i'm looking at http://crenk.com/how-to-install-firefox-4-on-ubuntu
[19:56] <GhostWolf> pappa_bear, i have the tar.bz2 file
[19:56] <GhostWolf> so if theres a way to install that way i can but if not
[19:57] <llutz> D-F3NS: should do, just make sure to add the new user to admin-group if you need sudo-access.
[19:57] <GhostWolf> pappa_bear,i can't view any links i have no browser installed atm
[19:57] <trism> RobinJ: oh, you may also be interested in this: http://font.ubuntu.com/web/
[19:57] <RedRobot> GermainAdrian: I have a few that is somewhat similar to  http://www.argosyconsole.com/images/argosy_monitorarms/gallery_7500_05_lg.jpg, just a slightly different design, and that they have wall mounts instead of table mounts
[19:58] <RobinJ> You can now use the Ubuntu Font Family as a webfont via the CSS @font-face mechanism, << thats what i was planning to do :p
[19:58] <RedRobot> GhostWolf: somewhat different first part, so it can go 75° up and down, instead of much more up than downwards
[19:58] <jjovereats> ok
[19:58] <winut> use firefox next ppa
[19:58] <jjovereats> lol
[19:58] <winut> firefox 4 = unsupported!!
[19:58] <jjovereats> qwoeoritiyuouoalsspfgohojgjdslkxzxmcbvmnnlnkiif
[19:58] <loculinux> pene?
[19:58] <GhostWolf> uh what RedRobot?
[19:58] <RedRobot> GhostWolf: was for GermainAdrian
[19:58] <RedRobot> sorry
[19:58] <RobinJ> except that i was not planning to use google api
[19:59] <loculinux> pene?
[19:59] <GermainAdrian> RedRobot: thx
[20:00] <llutz> !pm | D-F3NS
[20:00] <chaddy> !ot
[20:00] <trism> RobinJ: yes, I don't think you're required to, it is just another option available
[20:00] <D-F3NS> it wasnt a question
[20:00] <D-F3NS> anyway.thx
[20:00] <RobinJ> ok thanks :p
[20:00] <ivanuko> aleeeex
[20:01] <RedRobot> GermainAdrian: damn expensive ones, since they were designed for up to 60" monitors, but I got the for free when I was doing a demolition job :)
[20:01] <loculinux_> pene?
[20:01] <ivanuko> vagina?
[20:01] <RobinJ> heck the one from google api is uglier than the one i have xd
[20:01] <ivanuko> adviopbhajdv
[20:01] <loculinux_> putitas
[20:01] <ivanuko> vspkjáidp´dbàdkpj
[20:02] <GermainAdrian_> did i join with the cloak on
[20:02] <chaddy> any ops about who can tell me why I'm banned from #ubuntu-offtopic?
[20:02] <oCean> chaddy: join #ubuntu-ops
[20:02] <chaddy> thx oCean
[20:03] <winut> lol!!
[20:03] <jack_> Does ubuntu use upstart?
[20:03] <DynamicFail> anyway to view the contents of a file live other than tail -f ... tail -f won't work if the file is completly rewritten
[20:03] <llutz> jack_: it does
[20:03] <winut> you must have been on topic, thats why!! lol
[20:03] <jack_> Is there a way to make services restart if they die with upstart?
[20:04] <viii> i have nvidia drivers installed but GLX still fails to work? im on 11.04 natty
[20:04] <lucidguy> Installed video drivers from Nvidia (disabled Nouveau etc..) .. noticed a number of my systems when launching nvidia-settings, the system reads GeForce310 for GPU info.. yet its a Quadro5000, any ideas?
[20:04] <winut> ubuntu forums are stuffed full of ex army sergeants, very strict
[20:05] <llutz> DynamicFail: have you tried "tailf"? not sure if that would work, but maybe worth to try
[20:05] <pappa_bear> Anyone know how to add something to a pannel in Unity?
[20:05] <winut> lucid, it might just be a device id mixup
[20:05] <jack_> From the upstart page: Services may be respawned if they die unexpectedly. how do you get this functionality with the servicesS?
[20:05] <RedRobot> viii: fails to work how?
[20:05] <ceed^> I've installed Natty on a laptop with Intel graphics. The problem is that every time I boot resolution is the to 1024x768 instead of 1280x800. I have to use the Control panel resolution settings every time. Doesn't help to set "Make default" either. Ideas?
[20:06] <winut> maybe the same series of gpu chip is in the quadro 5000
[20:06] <beetlejooz> I'm having a routing issue on my ubuntu server. For no reason that I can figure out, I can't ping past the default gw.
[20:06] <winut> or vica versa
[20:07] <beetlejooz> ifconfig eth0 12.x.x.86 /28
[20:07] <penlat_> What application will transcode to mpeg2 or avchd?
[20:07] <beetlejooz> route add default gw 12.x.x.81 netmask 255.255.255.240
[20:07] <beetlejooz> am I missing something?
[20:07] <winut> papa_bear, i would ditch unity myself and logon again in classic desktop (just me)
[20:08] <lucidguy> winut: I can't see that being the case
[20:08] <viii> RedRobot, in the xorg log it says EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[20:08] <pappa_bear> winut, sound advice
[20:08] <winut> ok, ill check :-)
[20:08] <RedRobot> viii: trow the whole config up in paste.pocoo.org or another sane pastebim
[20:08] <kevinh90> hello
[20:08] <RedRobot> -m+n
[20:09] <RedRobot> viii: err.. log not config
[20:09] <kevinh90> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop yesterday.  In the past I have used ubuntu with no problems, and on the first few boots everything was fine - now everything randomly freezes
[20:09] <xiljin> successfully upgraded a box to oneiric last week (via do-release-upgrade), tried to upgrade a different box today and it bombs just before installing packages with a 'no such file or directory' error .. any ideas or alternative ways to upgrade?
[20:10] <Pici> xiljin: Oneiric isn't su[[prted in this channel, please use #ubuntu+1
[20:10] <beetlejooz> Anyone here understand routing enough to help with my ubuntu server routing issue?
[20:10] <xiljin> Pici: thanks
[20:10] <kevinh90> when running on battery I could barely even get logged in and unity said my computer didnt meet the requirements(odd since right after I installed and even after I installed updates it was fine)
[20:10] <winut> GT218 (310) and Quadro (GT100) yes, quite different http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units
[20:11] <kevinh90> beetlejooz, go ahead and ask
[20:11] <kevinh90> I cant guarantee I can help though
[20:11] <beetlejooz> kevin: I already did
[20:11] <beetlejooz> can't ping past my default gw
[20:11] <DynamicFail> llutz, didn't work but gave me an idea
[20:11] <beetlejooz> if i give the same address to my laptop I can get out just fine
[20:11] <beetlejooz> same gw
[20:12] <DynamicFail> clear; while true; do tailf /file; clear; done;
[20:12] <kevinh90> can you ping the default gw from ubuntu?
[20:12] <beetlejooz> yes
[20:12] <winut> lucidguy, what version of ubuntu you running? thx
[20:12] <beetlejooz> can't ping *past* it
[20:12] <llutz> DynamicFail: watch -n 5 cat foo/file      :)
[20:12] <lucidguy> winut: 10.04.2
[20:12] <beetlejooz> ie, I'm not routing out
[20:12] <winut> does it seem ok, have you benchmarked it etc?
[20:12] <kevinh90> could it be a bcast issue?
[20:13] <winut> i mean is video and 3d working?
[20:13] <lucidguy> winut: Just got it up and running ... nvidia-settings is also ready Memory 512mb .. obviously wrong, The quadro 5000 has 2.5GB to my knowledge
[20:13] <viii> RedRobot,  http://pastebin.com/FxcQmHB8
[20:14] <DynamicFail> llutz, that works also :)
[20:14] <lucidguy> winut: yes seems alright for now, glxgears responded
[20:14] <RedRobot> viii: I can't open pastebin.com, which is why I suggested pocoo
[20:14] <winut> wow, mega memory :-)
[20:14] <winut> do you use this for 3d work?
[20:15] <lucidguy> winut: this is a new graphics system I had built for for work.  Yes they use it as a graphic workstation.
[20:15] <viii> RedRobot, really? id never heard of that, is it a javascript thing?
[20:15] <winut> sick
[20:15] <lucidguy> winut: 24GB of ram
[20:15] <winut> omg !!!!
[20:15] <lucidguy> DDR3 also
[20:15] <RedRobot> viii: no, it is pastebin.com being silly. not that I would open it if I could anyway, I don't like sites with nasty ads
[20:16] <winut> let me know if you have a spare machine like that lol :-)
[20:16] <kevinh90> I think my freezing issue might have something to do with my graphics card.  glxinfo says  I dont have direct rendering even though the vendor string is nvidia corp
[20:16] <winut> i can see why the error has cropped up, not many people have this card i imagine
[20:16] <lucidguy> winut: we have two of these babies ... 27inch high end LCD also ... 1440 Vertical res .. I think close to 3000 horiz
[20:17] <winut> that must give you a lucid output!
[20:17] <viii> RedRobot, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/417639/
[20:17] <penlat_> what program can transcode to mpeg2 or avchd
[20:17] <winut> you should log a bug for this for sure
[20:17]  * stoerenungeheuer is back (gone 00:01:06)
[20:17] <Pici> !away > stoerenungeheuer
[20:18] <kevinh90> ok, even facebook pictures freeze up my whole x window for about 15 seconds...
[20:18] <RedRobot> Pici: ffmpeg maybe?
[20:18] <RedRobot> er.. penlat_ ^
[20:18] <Pici> RedRobot: not me, other p-person ;)
[20:18]  * stoerenungeheuer is away: beschaeftigt/busy/away---leave-a-message
[20:18] <sian> hi
[20:18] <llutz> !away| stoerenungeheuer
[20:18] <sian> could some one pls help me how to set up 3 monitor
[20:18] <sian> on my ubuntu
[20:18] <penlat_> redrobot, ?
[20:19] <viii> RedRobot, ldd glxgears is all good as is /usr/lib/nvidia-current/xorg/libglx.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[20:19] <RedRobot> viii: you are using the intel chip, not the nvidia one
[20:19] <gamealogic> Ahh Ubuntu is great :D
[20:19] <RedRobot> viii: laptop with optimus?
[20:19] <winut> lucidguy, do you mean to say you have 2 5000's in sli or 2 identical machines?
[20:19] <viii> RedRobot, yea
[20:19] <lucidguy> 2 systems .. 1x 5000 each
[20:20] <RedRobot> viii: sadly those doesn't really work, nvidia does not support optimus on gnu/linux
[20:20] <viii> RedRobot, is optimus where it has the gpu on die with the cpu
[20:20] <winut> when is the next hollywood blockbuster coming out? lol
[20:20] <sian> im using a laptop that got vga and hdmi connection
[20:20] <sian> i would like to use them
[20:20] <winut> lucidguy, what cpu in that beast?
[20:20] <sian> does any one know how to get it work
[20:21] <winut> or should i say cpu's!!!!!
[20:21] <RedRobot> sian: use the hdmi if the screen has hdmi or dvi in
[20:21] <viii> RedRobot, there isn't a tmp hack, what is optimus exactly
[20:21] <Pici> !ot | winut
[20:21] <RedRobot> sian: what gfx card is in the laptop and what driver are you using?
[20:21] <sian> yea i would like to use hdmi and my vga
[20:21] <lucidguy> winut: Nothing crazy 1 i7 9600 3.2ghz
[20:22] <sian> i got a nvidia geforce 8600gt
[20:22] <RedRobot> viii: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQxNg
[20:22] <pc500> My machine hung, and now it just goes to an (initramfs) prompt.
[20:22] <pc500> Is it fixable or not?  I have no data on it I care about, if it matters.
[20:22] <winut> ok, gotta go. nice speak to y'all on and off topic. have a great night all
[20:22] <RedRobot> sian: if you are using the closed source drivers, just enable the output you want in nvidia-settings, most likely you won't be able to use both the vga and hdmi out at once though
[20:22] <Guest75413> ..........*********.............
[20:22] <sian> and im using my laptop i would like to connect my 32inch tv and 17 inch monitor on it
[20:23] <kevinh90> my computer has 4GB of ram, 1GB GPU ram, and a core 2 duo 64bit cpu.  Would there be any benefit to me using 32bit ubuntu?
[20:23] <jerk255> I just installed ubuntu first time, the update manager won't show how long update will take
[20:23] <RedRobot> sian: usually you are limited to only one output, but check nvidia-settings
[20:23] <lucidguy> winut: later
[20:23] <sian> i can get one of them working but not both of them
[20:23] <sian> ?
[20:23] <PythonSnake> Hi
[20:23] <RedRobot> jerk255: depends entierly on how fast your internet connection is, how fast your hw is etc
[20:24] <RedRobot> jerk255: there is no reliable way to calculate it
[20:24] <PythonSnake> now
[20:24] <PythonSnake> someone help
[20:24] <BluesKaj-den> kevinh90, not really , 64 bit is quite mature now ..that's what I'm using on a similar cpu
[20:24] <x1o> möp
[20:24] <jerk255> internet is pretty fast, but there is no sign of any progress, shouldn't there be a bar or something
[20:24] <jerk255> has been an hour
[20:24] <PythonSnake> please
[20:24] <chaddy> help with what, PythonSnake?
[20:24] <IdleOne> !ask | PythonSnake
[20:24] <PythonSnake> installing ubuntu
[20:25] <PythonSnake> I dont know how
[20:25] <Starminn> What's the standard format for Time Zones?
[20:25] <RedRobot> PythonSnake: boot the install cd, press next a bunch of times, done (just like windows :))
[20:25] <PythonSnake> but partition thing
[20:25] <PythonSnake> shrink
[20:25] <PythonSnake> I really need help for partition for installing ubuntu
[20:25] <RedRobot> Starminn: Some/Where
[20:25] <purpleposeidon> What did you guys do to my tab completion you are a terrible person fix it now
[20:25] <PythonSnake> someone can help me through remote ?
[20:26] <gohdan> PythonSnake: just set it to how much space you think you may need over time
[20:26] <jerk255> anyone? Im in update limbo
[20:26] <PythonSnake> how to shrink partitions
[20:26] <RedRobot> Starminn: eg Europe/Paris
[20:26] <gohdan> PythonSnake: make sure to setup a seperate /home partition as well
[20:26] <RedRobot> Starminn: you can find them all in /usr/share/zoneinfo/
[20:26] <kevinh90> PythonSnake: dont shrink partitions on your first linux install
[20:26] <PythonSnake> what to do ?
[20:27] <Starminn> RedRobot: How about the "-0400" and such? Are those standard in time zones, or just cause unnecessary confusion?
[20:27] <kevinh90> go all in
[20:27] <jerk255> im in update manager, 166 updates, the thing is just greyed out with a spinning mouse cursor
[20:27] <PythonSnake> I dont know what to do
[20:27] <RenatoSilva> what? Firefox 5 in update manager????
[20:27] <llutz> Starminn: what are you trying to do? sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata       to set timezone
[20:27] <jjovereats> buh bah buh buh buh buh buh?
[20:27] <PythonSnake> :'(
[20:27] <RenatoSilva> world 's ending?
[20:28] <jerk255> I just installed ubuntu with wubi
[20:28] <RA_drc> RedRobot: thanks for the links
[20:28] <Pici> RenatoSilva: Whats the question?
[20:28] <jjovereats> ok, jerk255 you are not a jerk.
[20:28] <RedRobot> Starminn: that tells the exact offset from gmt
[20:28] <Starminn> llutz: It's actually for a web page. Just thought if anyoe would know the commonnly-accepted order, it'd be you guys. :)
[20:28] <EddiX> RenatoSilva: Yeah, almost unbelievable
[20:28] <Pici> !ot | jjovereats
[20:28] <jjovereats> !guidelines | jjovereats
[20:29] <RenatoSilva> EddiX: just can't handle
[20:29] <jerk255> does anyone know what I'm talking about
[20:29] <chaddy> jerk255: wubi is known, yess
[20:29] <chaddy> jerk255: what's the specific problem?
[20:30] <Starminn> RedRobot llutz: Thanks guys, I found my answer. (There is no one, right way, but I'm just going to use what my system uses.)
[20:30] <jerk255> I mean the update manager, its just sitting there with no visual sign of progress, for the past hour and a half
[20:31] <redmenace> umm ICQ doesnt work with empathy
[20:31] <marsfligth> Hi, have you idea if exist a backup tool that allows to schedule the backup with different execution time? Thanks
[20:31] <dlong> Anyone here running selinux on their desktop?
[20:32] <jerk255> are update downloads just slow right now?
[20:32] <marsfligth> Hi, have you idea if exist a backup tool that allows to schedule the backup with different execution time for different folders? Thanks
[20:32] <rypervenche> jerk255: You can try stopping the update and trying it again in the command line by typing "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" without the quotes.
[20:32] <misaq> jerk255, don't worry. if your internet speed is good, like 256 kbps, your update should be done in about one hour
[20:32] <llutz> marsfligth: "different execution time" as in? rsnapshot + cronjob
[20:32] <jerk255> so it takes 3 hours?
[20:32] <aferla> hello, if i have ubuntu running over win7, can i reinstall win7 without ubuntu?
[20:33] <kevinh90> my cell phone gets better than 256kbps most of the time
[20:33] <misaq> kevinh90, really?
[20:33] <RedRobot> aferla: depends on what you mean by "running over"
[20:33] <redmenace> does anyone else have ICQ?
[20:34] <redmenace> it doesnt work with Pidgin either
[20:34] <kevinh90> misaq, CDMA Rev A, Sprint PCS 3G,  theoretical max speed is around 3 megabits but typical speeds are 400-600kbps
[20:34] <RedRobot> redmenace: sadly some people still uses it
[20:34] <RedRobot> redmenace: works if you have an up to date pidgin/libpurple
[20:34] <redmenace> how do i update empathy RedRobot
[20:34] <Ivan_The_Terribl> Hey guys, anyone tried to burn cds with console commands? Is the right command "cdrecord -v name_of_image" ? It didn't work for me - the cd drive was buzzing for a few minutes, but when the command stopped output I checked the cd - and it was empty. What do I do in a wrong way?
[20:35] <inashdeen> hi, need a help, trying gerix-wifi-cracker.py, but now it says mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 1. what should i do?
[20:35] <misaq> kevinh90, how much expense do you pay for the service?
[20:35] <redmenace> how do you update a single app?
[20:35] <maco> redmenace: if you run "sudo apt-get install program" when its already installed, itll just update it
[20:36] <aferla> i need reinstall win7 (it has in partition c), ubuntu is install how an application in win7 in partition d
[20:36] <kevinh90> misaq: for 3 phones I am paying about $180 per month(that includes both data and voice)
[20:36] <redmenace> thanks maco
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[20:36] <redmenace> .\\...............|'-|--| .\\....\.....
[20:36] <FloodBot1> redmenace: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <lucidguy> Anone use drivers from Nvidia eg.  NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-270.41.06.run ... etc?
[20:36] <kevinh90> misaq: a USB data stick for PC is about $60 per month with a 5gb monthly data cap.
[20:36] <misaq> kevinh90, it seems reasonable. can i ask where do you live?
[20:37] <kevinh90> misaq: Illinois, USA.  where do you live?
[20:37] <inashdeen> anyone?
[20:37] <jjovereats> Whoah whoah whoa - - this is going offtopic.
[20:38] <kevinh90> misaq, Also my phone can use Sprint's WiMAX network which has typical speeds of 1-4megabits with theoretical max around 12megabits per second.  but I am outside that coverage.
[20:39] <misaq> kevinh90,  I live in Iran.  I pay 125000 Rials (about 12$ )for my ADSL internet monthly
[20:39] <kevinh90> misaq: a 1 megabit adsl line where I live is about $20 per month
[20:39] <plonker1> I'm trying to remove getmail, but sudo apt-get autoremove/remove doesn't work. I do know that it is installed but I forgot how I installed it.
[20:40] <jjovereats> misaq: I think Iran is too undemocratic. R125k? What a biggie!
[20:41] <kevinh90> misaq: with what I have heard about Iran, be careful what you say online and try to keep your adsl hooked to the real internet as long as you can before the iranian intranet becomes mandatory
[20:41] <misaq> kevinh90,  it is very good speed
[20:41] <llutz> !ot | misaq kevinh90  could you please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[20:41] <misaq> kevinh90,  1 Mbps is very good for 20$
[20:42] <plonker1> I'm trying to remove getmail, but sudo apt-get autoremove/remove doesn't work. I do know that it is installed but I forgot how I installed it.
[20:42] <jjovereats> For £24-ish I get 11Mbps (i.e just over 1.3 MiB/sec)
[20:42] <aferla>  i need reinstall win7 (it has in partition c), ubuntu is install how an application in win7 in partition d
[20:42] <misaq> llutz,  why should we continue in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[20:42] <llutz> misaq: because you are offtopic here
[20:43] <kevinh90> misaq: just /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:43] <misaq> llutz, what is the main topic here?
[20:44] <llutz> misaq: read what ubottu just told you :)
[20:44] <Pici> misaq: This channel is for support only.
[20:45] <gabriel_1980> Hi everyone
[20:46] <kevinh90> If more people in Iran questioned authority like he does... lol
[20:46] <plonker1> I'm trying to remove getmail, but sudo apt-get autoremove/remove doesn't work. I do know that it is installed but I forgot how I installed it.
[20:46] <misaq> Pici, do you mean there are always assigned people from Ubuntu for support ?
[20:47] <kevinh90> plonker, try using synaptic to remove it
[20:47] <kevinh90> it might be easier to use
[20:47] <gabriel_1980> I have a Dlink-615 wireless router and an Alfa awu036nh usb  wireless n adapter, the problem is that most of the time I cant connect, it keeps looking for signal, but on windows 7 it works fine the connection
[20:47] <Corey> misaq: No, we're all volunteers.
[20:47] <Corey> misaq: #ubuntu-offtopic is our social channel. :-)
[20:47] <helpmehelpme> Hi
[20:47] <aferla> can  i do reinstall win7 (it has in partition c), if i have ubuntu install how an application in win7 in partition d?
[20:47] <xBlueprint> Whats up guys
[20:48] <helpmehelpme> I'm getting ubuntu
[20:48] <helpmehelpme> and partition gives me error came up saying: "An error occured while writing the changes to the storage devices.
[20:48] <kevinh90> gabriel_1980: dlink-615 is really old
[20:48] <helpmehelpme> help
[20:48] <xBlueprint> yo does anyone have 11.04
[20:48] <helpmehelpme> me
[20:48] <xBlueprint> helpme you have 11.04
[20:49] <kevinh90> gabriel_1980: do you mean DIR-615 ?  that is newer
[20:49] <helpmehelpme> An error occured while writing the changes to the storage devices.
[20:49] <helpmehelpme> help meee
[20:49] <gabriel_1980> It is old but I never have any trouble on windows 7 with it, the problem is with ubuntu, I use the lates 64 bit version
[20:49] <gabriel_1980> yea, DIR-615, that is the one I have
[20:49] <xBlueprint> Did anyone have problems with 11.04 with realtik wifi drivers?
[20:50] <plonker1> I'm trying to remove getmail, but sudo apt-get autoremove/remove doesn't work. I do know that it is installed but I forgot how I installed it.
[20:50] <helpmehelpme> I can't resize partitions
[20:50] <helpmehelpme> n error has occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices. the resize operation has been aborted.
[20:50] <Rexter> I installed Windows 7 in VirtualBox on my Ubuntu 11/04 system. I added my user to the vboxusers group, but the host still doesn't see my usb devices. WTF?
[20:50] <helpmehelpme> help pls
[20:50] <helpmehelpme> xBlueprint: no
[20:51] <llutz> plonker1: dpkg -l getmail*
[20:51] <helpmehelpme> please someone help me
[20:51] <helpmehelpme> help....
[20:52] <Greyscale> hallo
[20:52] <Greyscale> helpmehelpme: whats up?
[20:52] <jjovereats> helpmehelpme, please change ya nick
[20:52] <Emanon> Hey all, looking for help getting a hauppage wintv hvr 850 working under 11.04 if possible.
[20:52] <Greyscale> PythonSnake: if its aborted changes it should have not made any <<
[20:52] <llutz> Rexter: did you install the OSE-version? it has no USB-support, you'll need to install oracles Extension Pack
[20:52] <Greyscale> Unless your filesystem is hosed~
[20:53] <plonker1> llutz: I get getmail and getmail4 but when running dpkg -r getmail/getmail4 I get - "Ignoring request to remove getmail which is not installed"
[20:53] <inashdeen> hi, need a help, trying gerix-wifi-cracker.py, but now it says mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 1. what should i do?\
[20:53] <RedRobot> plonker1: maybe you installed them by hand instead of using the package system?
[20:54] <PythonSnake> ok
[20:54] <PythonSnake> so
[20:54] <plonker1> RedRobot: llutz : Yes, now I remember. That was a tgz package and I used a provided .py program to install it
[20:54] <llutz> RedRobot: dpkg wouldn't list them then as installed
[20:54] <PythonSnake> Greyscale: I cant resize partition an error has occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices. the resize operation has been aborted.
[20:54] <PythonSnake> help
[20:54] <RedRobot> he said dpkg didn't list them as installed
[20:55] <RedRobot> and he admitted to installing them the stupid way
[20:55] <Greyscale> PythonSnake: sorry dude, theres not much help anyone can give
[20:55] <Greyscale> and repeatedly going "help" won't change that
[20:55] <plonker1> RedRobot: llutz : I downloaded the same installation package again in order to find something about uninstalling it but cant find some relevant info
[20:55] <Greyscale> your best bet is to turn it off and on again and hope it comes back up
[20:55] <RedRobot> plonker1: check if they have a uninstall func in the setup.py
[20:55] <Greyscale> and if it doesn't, reinstall... Hope you got the CDs ready :)
[20:55] <RedRobot> plonker1: and next time, use the package system
[20:55]  * PythonSnake is in trouble
[20:55] <Greyscale> Clearly
[20:56] <llutz> RedRobot: dpkg -l getmail      shouldn't list them, if not installed
[20:56]  * jjovereats is implosive
[20:56] <MattR> afternoon everyone
[20:56] <plonker1> llutz: That is weird.
[20:56] <Emanon> Afternoon.
[20:56] <plonker1> RedRobot: No uninstall function.
[20:58] <J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r> opaa
[20:58] <Rexter> llutz, things have changed a bit. I installed the regular version from the Orical site along with the VirtualBox 4.0.8 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack.
[20:58] <gabriel_1980> I have a Dlink-615 wireless router and an Alfa awu036nh usb  wireless n adapter, the problem is that most of the time I cant connect, it keeps looking for signal, but on windows 7 it works fine the connection
[20:59] <gabriel_1980> I have a Dlink DIR-615 router
[20:59] <J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r> hi
[20:59] <inashdeen> hi, where is the irc for gerix?
[20:59] <Corey> !afk | Jasonn
[20:59] <lonki> Hi all, would like to ask for some help debugging a bug. It is listed on launchpad. Would like to see if someone not using nvidia is able to reproduce it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/+bug/796326
[21:00] <lonki> if not then I am sure where to send a correct bugreport
[21:00] <J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r> i not understand english, help me...
[21:00] <jjovereats> ubuntu bug 1 is fixable, but only through Debian mass-advertising it's OS.
[21:00] <chaddy> J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r: there may be an ubuntu channel in your native language
[21:00] <IdleOne> !ot | jjovereats
[21:00] <jjovereats> i did not mean to trigger the ubuntu bot, sorry about that.
[21:01] <DrkCodeman> is there a default LTSP distro to ubuntu or is it something that has to be installed sepprately?
[21:01] <DrkCodeman> im looking to setup thin clients in the near future
[21:01] <Jasonn> Corey: How is that a noisy away message... It is just a nickchange
[21:01] <DynamicFail> llutz, what was that watch command again
[21:01] <llutz> DynamicFail: watch -n 5 cat foo/file
[21:02] <DynamicFail> thanks
[21:02] <DynamicFail> missing the cat lol
[21:02] <gohdan> !br | J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r
[21:02] <J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r> which?
[21:02] <IdleOne> Jasonn: imagine 1500 users doing nick changes every time they came and went
[21:02] <tjiggi_fo> J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r, what language you speak?
[21:03] <J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r> portuguese...
[21:03] <Jasonn> !pt J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r
[21:03] <Jasonn> !pt | J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r
[21:03] <vai_> hi
[21:03] <J0hn_Th3_Ripp3r> thanks..
[21:03] <vai_> anyone got problems with printers in Ubuntu 10?
[21:04] <llutz> DynamicFail: to watch end of files this way, "tac" might be better
[21:04] <jjovereats> v10 or 10.10? make up your mind vai_
[21:04] <vai_> 10.10
[21:04] <vai_> CANON IP2700 SERIES
[21:04] <plonker1> RedRobot: If i dont find any uninstall function in the python script, do i need to remove it by hand ? is that the only option i remain with?
[21:04] <vai_> it doesn't print a crap
[21:08] <david___> hi
[21:09] <beecarr> Hi guys. Does anyone know how to get Unity setup in edubuntu? I am curious. Many thanks for any feedbacks.
[21:09] <david___> i was trying to install galaxium-0.7.4.1 but make command didn't work
[21:11] <david___> any info about that?
[21:13] <virgo> my extra driver window says about my Nvidia graphics drivers: driver is activated but not in use. What does that mean "not in use"?
[21:13] <aferla> I have install ubuntu 11.04 in D partition and i have win7 in C partition, can i reinstall it without affect ubuntu?
[21:13] <jjovereats> aferla: NO.
[21:13] <RedRobot> plonker1: python setup.py --help
[21:13] <clcto> david___: is it in the repos? whats the error?
[21:14] <tiako> Does anyone know how vim editor deals with different size terminal windows?
[21:14] <clcto> tiako: well
[21:14] <Koobilitoo> Howdy Folks
[21:14] <amorphous> aferla, you want to reinstall windows or ubuntu?
[21:14] <aferla> win7
[21:14] <Koobilitoo> Wondering what program for ubuntu is as close to itunes as possible in your opinions?
[21:14] <david___> idk it say Please install mono version 1.2.4
[21:14] <aferla> ubuntu its ok
[21:14] <david___> idk what is mono
[21:14] <asslowashell> wtf, why is insight gone in ubuntu 10...
[21:15] <amorphous> aferla, then win7 will write to the MBR and grub won't work. you'll have to save the old mbr, reinstall windows and then reinstall grub or put back the mbr
[21:15] <clcto> david___: open source reworking of .NET .. did you try to use a package manager
[21:15] <Bombasa> hi
[21:15] <Bombasa> hello
[21:15] <Bombasa> !list
[21:15] <inashdeen> hi, need help on gerix, when trying to hack my own wpa, it says mon0 is on channel -1, but the Ap uses channel 1
[21:15] <david___> whats that?
[21:16] <plonker1> RedRobot: I don't see some information about removing the package. I guess i'll use 'find' and remove the data files manually. Thank u
[21:16] <clcto> Koobilitoo: in what way?
[21:16] <Bombasa> where can i jet any file like videos or songs?
[21:16] <Bombasa> get*
[21:16] <Koobilitoo> CLCTO: in as many ways as possible something that i can add my music to then burn to CD in the same program.
[21:16] <asslowashell> Bombasa: gtfo
[21:16] <tjiggi_fo> Bombasa, not here
[21:16] <Pici> !piracy | Bombasa
[21:16] <Pici> asslowashell: the 'insight' package?  It looks like it was removed from Debian and subsquently removed from Ubuntu. See http://bugs.debian.org/566579 for details.
[21:16] <tiako> clcto I dunno but I am having huge problems with the way vim acts when I resize terminal windows
[21:17] <asslowashell> Pici, thanks, investigating
[21:17] <Bombasa> what can I do in this channel?
[21:17] <chaddy> Bombasa: there are some sites which provide CC licensed materials
[21:17] <amorphous> aferla, to save the current MBR, open a terminal in Ubuntu and do this: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/home/username/mbr.dat bs=512 count=1"
[21:17] <clcto> Bombasa: ubuntu support
[21:17] <NictraSavios> Bombasa: Get help on ubuntu.
[21:17] <Pici> Bombasa: this channel is only for Ubuntu support. Chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:17] <aferla> sorry, what is mbr?
[21:17] <chaddy> aferla: master boot record
[21:17] <Bombasa> is dangerous to use virtualbox ?
[21:17] <clcto> Koobilitoo: that is generally not the "UNIX way".
[21:17] <NictraSavios> aferla: 512 bytes that host the begining of your bootloader and your parition table
[21:18] <Koobilitoo> Lovely :D ok then Can you reccomend one that is as close as possible to what I've already typed and asked about :D
[21:18] <NictraSavios> aferla: the first 446 contain the bootloader, If you install windows, then those 446 bytes (that start grub) will start windows, so you need to put grub back
[21:18] <david___> look can u take a look at this and tell me how i fix the error
[21:18] <david___> http://pastebin.com/9FSHTtyG
[21:18] <NictraSavios> aferla: There is an excelent article in the wiki pages. Google
[21:19] <david___> plz
[21:19] <aferla> nictrasavios, i will see
[21:19] <NictraSavios> aferla: Google "Reinstalling Windows after Ubuntu Install"
[21:20] <clcto> Koobilitoo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Experiences/MusicPlayers start there.
[21:20] <NictraSavios> aferla: Or something like that, youll find it. Remember, always research
[21:20] <Koobilitoo> Thank you Clcto! much appreciative!
[21:20] <clcto> Koobilitoo: nevermind
[21:20] <clcto> that is crap
[21:21] <Koobilitoo> huh?
[21:21] <david___> clcto: can u plz take a look at this http://pastebin.com/9FSHTtyG
[21:21] <trism> david___: it seems you need at least the kdelibs5-dev package to build (and you will probably need more)
[21:21] <NictraSavios> Wanna fix all your Windows related issues? sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt , sudo mv -r /mnt/* /dev/nul
[21:21] <NictraSavios> Wanna fix all your Windows related issues? sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt , sudo mv -r /mnt/* /dev/null *
[21:22] <david___> what
[21:22] <NictraSavios> Done. lmao. (dont do it)
[21:22] <david___> how i get it
[21:22] <trism> david___: sudo apt-get install kdelibs5-dev;
[21:22] <maco> DO NOT run the command NictraSavios said
[21:22] <Somelauw> NictraSavios: I just did what you said, but now my windows won't boot.
[21:22] <NictraSavios> I said dont do it.
[21:22] <NictraSavios> Somelauw: See? All better :D
[21:22] <david___> oh ok thanks
[21:23] <david___> and when i try to install Q4Wine it say i need somthing that i don't have
[21:23] <inashdeen> anyone?
[21:23] <NictraSavios> inashdeen: what?
[21:23] <trism> david___: the exact error would be more helpful
[21:23] <viii> RedRobot, bumblebee worked! evn though it lacks a config for my system it went flawlessly
[21:24] <david___> w8
[21:24] <viii> RedRobot, you, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar!
[21:25] <jetrost> i want to SSH into my clean install of ubuntu 10.04 from a windows machine using PuTTY. do i just use the IP address of the ubuntu machine, and tell it to use SSH?
[21:25] <chaddy> jetrost: on the ubuntu machine install openssh-server
[21:25] <david___> http://pastebin.com/bwCZa1sV
[21:25] <Totem-Schalter> username@ipadress
[21:25] <david___> trism: http://pastebin.com/bwCZa1sV
[21:26] <arooni-mobile> can i add a countdown timer to the unity panel?
[21:26] <arooni-mobile> is there a unity channel
[21:26] <jetrost> chaddy, thanks, i'll try that.
[21:27] <Totem-Schalter> jetrost: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:27] <Rexter> installed Windows 7 in VirtualBox on my ubuntu 11.04 system. I have added my user to the vboxusers group, but my guest OS still cannot find USB devices.
[21:27] <david___> i have the wine 1.3.22
[21:27] <trism> david___: that would be why, it depends on 1.0 or 1.2, but you have 1.3
[21:28] <david___> :( ah ok
[21:28] <david___> thanks
[21:28] <llutz> Rexter: did you re-login after adding your user to vboxusers?
[21:28] <Mandrew> any nvidia graphic card wizard in?
[21:28] <marsfligth> Probably OT, if it is, tell me where speak about. I plan to upgrade my hardware soon. Is there some cpu that works better with Linux? I mean, dual-core, quad etc
[21:28] <david___> ok gtg take care
[21:29] <Rexter> llutz, i can't remember. I'll try it. brb
[21:29] <llutz> Rexter: "id" as user should list vboxusers
[21:29] <clcto> !ask | Mandrew
[21:30] <olliea95> Hey
[21:31] <NictraSavios> olliea95: Hello there, what brings you to our little spot on freenode?
[21:32] <arooni-mobile> whats the best source of widgets i can hide/show with a key pres?  i have used screenlets in the past; don't know if there's something better
[21:32] <marsfligth> Where can I find all applets/indicators/item available for Ubuntu panel?
[21:32] <RedRobot> arooni-mobile: depending on what you are going to use it for, dzen2 can be handy
[21:33] <NictraSavios> !fr | hi_im_jack_im_fr
[21:33] <asslowashell> oh wow.  so baaaasically.  I need to downgrade to ubuntu 9 if i want insight working
[21:33] <asslowashell> well thats simply a joy :/
[21:33] <NictraSavios> asslowashell: Or use another distro. But... yea.
[21:34] <NictraSavios> asslowashell: If you need to downgrade to use something, chances are its because there is a better (thats up for debate), newer version or alternative thats better supported or activitly developed.
[21:34] <jetrost> chaddy: after installing openssh-server, what do i do? also, is there any particular port i should be connecting to?
[21:35] <asslowashell> NictraSavios: typically, i suppose, but I don't think so in this case.
[21:35] <NictraSavios> jetrost: In my experance, Shh servers use port 22.
[21:35] <Totem-Schalter> port 22
[21:35] <chaddy> jetrost: putty to user@host, should use default port which is 22
[21:35] <asslowashell> This is why I normally hate updating
[21:35] <RedRobot> asslowashell: I would just find a replacement for insight
[21:35] <NictraSavios> asslowashell: Ive never used insight, So i have no option on that, But you should try googling around a little, you may be surprised.
[21:36] <jetrost> NictraSavios, Totem-Schalter, chaddy: thanks.
[21:36] <NictraSavios> asslowashell: Personally, I HATED gnome 3, thought it was the worst thing in the world, till I used it. Now its my favortite DE. You may have the same experance with Insight and whatever alternative, if any, it has.
[21:36] <Totem-Schalter> jetrost: dont forget if your going to connect over a router u may wanna open port 22 on the router
[21:38] <jetrost> Totem-Schalter: dang, that complicates things. btw, should i run openssh-server after it is installed? or does it handle itself automatically?
[21:38] <Totem-Schalter> it start automatically
[21:38] <Totem-Schalter> or id did for me
[21:38] <DieterBohlen__> exit
[21:39] <NictraSavios> jetrost: Many routers have port 20,22 and a few other common ports alredy open.
[21:39] <andrea_> Herro
[21:39] <Totem-Schalter> oh then it should work ..
[21:40] <NictraSavios> jetrost: Mine did, and its a belkin. If they have it open, then most do. Cus belkins are the cow poo of routers in my opinion haha
[21:40] <jetrost> what would the host be? my ip address?
[21:40] <Totem-Schalter> depends if your running Nat
[21:41] <Totem-Schalter> if u wanna check over the router use your routers incoming Ip address
[21:41] <NictraSavios> jetrost: It would probably be your local ip, like 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.2.2
[21:41] <jetrost> would i be running Nat on a clean install of ubuntu?
[21:42] <Totem-Schalter> jetrost: u may wanna google port forwarding and read up an that
[21:42] <NictraSavios> jetrost: You can also define these local ips to nicknames in /etc/hosts
[21:42] <Totem-Schalter> Nat is run on the router not the computer
[21:42] <chaddy> jetrost: NAT is what gives you so many local ip's on your LAN rather than just you external ip which identifies you on the internet
[21:42] <NictraSavios> Don't all modern routers use Nat?
[21:43] <jetrost> understood. thanks all. i'll research a bit more.
[21:43] <chaddy> NictraSavios: think so, never had one that didn't
[21:43] <NictraSavios> chaddy: Yea, Ive never seen one that dosent
[21:43] <aferla> thanks
[21:43] <NictraSavios> chaddy: And I use ALOT of routers....
[21:44] <NictraSavios>  clear
[21:44] <NictraSavios> oops, forgot the /
[21:48] <NictraSavios> Anyone have any indepth experance with Xen? Dose it provide seamless paralization?
[21:48] <NictraSavios> something akin to Virtualbox Seamless mode, only in parallization
[21:51] <lolmatic> can anyone tell me why my flash videos dont work anymore in chrome (ubuntu)?
[21:51] <xenplex> .
[21:51] <lolmatic> flash is loaded but the background is all black
[21:52] <NictraSavios> lolmatic: Did it work before?
[21:52] <lolmatic> NictraSavios: yes.
[21:52] <lolmatic> i reopened chrome and it didnt work anymore.
[21:52] <NictraSavios> lolmatic: How long ago? And did you do any upgrades since then?
[21:52] <rypervenche> lolmatic: What version of flash are you using?
[21:52] <lolmatic> NictraSavios: no upgrades.
[21:53] <lolmatic> rypervenche: 10.3.181.26
[21:53] <NictraSavios> lolmatic: Did you try reloading chrome (closing it, reopening)
[21:53] <lolmatic> NictraSavios: of course
[21:53] <NictraSavios> lolmatic: No idea then. I personally don't use flash at all.
[21:53] <NictraSavios> html5 all the way
[21:53] <rypervenche> hear hear!
[21:53] <NictraSavios> :D
[21:54] <jo-erlend_> with Unity (Compiz) you can press alt+ctrl+numkeys to place windows. I really love that, but I would like to make the left side a little bit wider than the right side. Is there any way to configure that?
[21:55] <NictraSavios> jo-erlend_: Drag the corner and resize?
[21:55] <mattmatteh> how can i enable vaapi for intel i3 ?
[21:55] <jo-erlend_> that is; if I press alt+ctrl+4. then I want a window vertically maximized with the width of 1100px. If I alt+ctrl+6, then the window should be maximized vertically and have 820px width, or something.
[21:56] <plonker1> because u r a noob
[21:56] <jo-erlend_> NictraSavios, no, I want to use the keyboard shortcuts to always place windows like that.
[21:56] <NictraSavios> jo-erlend_: Personally, I dont use Unity. But all configureation files are in /etc, so I would expect that, if you could change it, it would be in there.
[21:57] <olly2> .
[21:57] <jo-erlend_> NictraSavios, no, personal configuration files are not stored there.
[22:00] <NictraSavios> jo-erlend_: they would be in dot files in your ~ , But I assume that your the only users, and if not, the rest don't care.
[22:00] <segakanon> !list
[22:01] <cyperbg> anyone willing to help
[22:01] <cyperbg> I@m trying to install pyopencl
[22:01] <cyperbg> and I get error: command gcc failed with exit status 1
[22:01] <lng_> how do I generate WIFI WPA key?
[22:03] <Kuifje111> hello all. I have downloaded the 64 bit version of ubuntu. the filename says it is for the amd64 architecture but I own an intel CPU. will this run on my PC?
[22:03] <NictraSavios> lng_:
[22:03] <NictraSavios> Kuifje111: It may, I have an intel chip and it runs fine.
[22:03] <Kuifje111> that doesn't make sense to me
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> Kuifje111, yes.  AMD64 is for both AMD and Intel 64bit CPUs
[22:03] <NictraSavios> Kuifje111: When was your computer made? That could be a good indicator, all recent intel chips support x86_64
[22:04] <lng_> NictraSavios: ?
[22:04] <NictraSavios> Kuifje111: By "recent" I mean 2007-2009+
[22:04] <Kuifje111> NictraSavios: my CPU supports x86_64, but amd64 != x86_64 as far as I know
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> Kuifje111, amd64 does = x86_64 actually
[22:05] <NictraSavios> Kuifje111: Ubuntu is not amd64, it is 64-bit, which means it will support both
[22:05] <NictraSavios> ZykoticK9: (There are a few key differnces, but they are mostly the same)
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> NictraSavios, ONLY in name actually
[22:07] <Kuifje111> ok, thanks for the help
[22:07] <joeylockie> hello every one
[22:07] <chaddy> hey joe
[22:07] <NictraSavios> joeylockie: Hello, what brings you to our chat?
[22:07] <joeylockie> am new to ubuntu and am looking to run a server
[22:08] <cyperbg> so noone can help me then?
[22:08] <chaddy> server to do what, joeylockie?
[22:08] <cyperbg> with pyopencl
[22:08] <NictraSavios> !server | joeylockie
[22:08] <joeylockie> run mmo server off of and maybe a website
[22:09] <NictraSavios> joeylockie: Read what ubottu said, this is not the channel for server support.
[22:09] <joeylockie> ah ok
[22:09] <tsrk> How can I make SSH use a different directory for it's info (it tries to use ~/.ssh, I want it to use a directory I specify)?
[22:09] <NictraSavios> joeylockie: Thank you.
[22:09] <oCean> cyperbg: package python-pyopencl is in the repositories
[22:09] <NictraSavios> tsrk: Learn about how it works, you can specify the folder when you connect
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> joeylockie, if you are "new" personally i'd recommend using Desktop and adding services, unless you want a CLI only install
[22:10] <joeylockie> ok thanks
[22:10] <cyperbg> ocean: I'm a complete Linux newbie. How do i get it from there? DO I use wget or the Software Update icon in the Control panel?
[22:10] <NictraSavios> Yea... And dont host a website off your own server. Unless you have a nice big cluster.
[22:10] <NictraSavios> cyperbg: you can use the ubuntu software center or apt-get install
[22:10] <coco> Should Bind run on its own server or does it matter?
[22:10] <oCean> cyperbg: there are all nice repositories in ubuntu! All you need to do is  sudo apt-get install python-pyopencl
[22:11] <tsrk> NictraSavios: Where would I find that information? I've checked the SSH man file.
[22:11] <abc123xyz> cyperbg: you open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get install python-pyopencl
[22:11] <cyperbg> ok I will try and report back
[22:11] <NictraSavios> tsrk: info ssh, you can also google around. server support is in #ubuntu-server , all we can give is client support
[22:11] <oCean> !software > cyperbg
[22:11] <io> tsrk: '$ ssh -F <configuration file> <user@host>'
[22:12] <penlat_> Is there a way to backup my current ubuntu install exactly how it is to have the same system if it crashed
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> !clone > penlat_
[22:13] <tsrk> NictraSavios: I've been Google'ing for an answer, and haven't been able to find one. This is a client issue; it's concerned with the SSH client, not the SSH server.
[22:13] <NictraSavios> penlat_: Backup your home directory, and use dpkg --get-selections to maintain a list of your installed software
[22:13] <abc123xyz> penlat_: take a look at clonezilla
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> penlat_, clone is one option for backing up the installed programs, if you wanted a image backup you could check out the Clonezilla LiveCD
[22:13] <cyperbg> ocean: it is installing but is it normal to download nvidia stuff when my video card and even chipset is AMD/Ati
[22:13] <TheMatrix3000> lvm allows me to increase the size of a partition dynamically in teh future right?
[22:13] <NictraSavios> tsrk: When you use the "connect to server" dialog, it lets you specify what folder you want to connect to. Use that as your starting point.
[22:14] <th0r> tsrk: you might also look at the ssh_config file in /etc/ssh
[22:14] <penlat_> Alright thats a start. THank you guys
[22:14] <tsrk> NictraSavios: That specifies what folder to access on the remote machine. It's not what I need.
[22:14] <NictraSavios> tsrk: I thought thats what you wanted, sorry
[22:14] <oCean> cyperbg: it will download install whatever you specify. I'm not sure why it is downloading nvidia packages when you're trying to install a python package
[22:15] <oCean> cyperbg: I send you a link (through ubottu's PM) to read up on how to use the software repositories
[22:15] <penlat_> NictraSavios, how can I save the list to automate the installation after reinstall
[22:15] <tsrk> NictraSavios: No, I'm trying to stop SSH from trying to create a ~/.ssh because in this case ~ isn't writable so the SSH fails
[22:15] <tsrk> th0r: I looked and didn't see anything applicable :/
[22:15] <cyperbg> thank you
[22:16] <NictraSavios> penlat_: run sudo dpkg --get-selections
[22:16] <penlat_> NictraSavios, I did. gave me a long list
[22:16] <NictraSavios> penlat_: There are guides on how to get it to install everything over again, Google it. Personally i dont use ubuntu or any debian bassed distro, so I dont know.
[22:16] <ZykoticK9> penlat_, you should read the !clone factoid I sent you
[22:16] <NictraSavios> penlat_: Oh, dpkg --get-selections > list
[22:17] <NictraSavios> ZykoticK9: Cloning is horrible. It only works 50/50 at best.
[22:17] <abc123xyz> tsrk: http://serverfault.com/questions/11029/how-can-you-change-the-default-location-of-the-ssh-folder
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> NictraSavios, LOL - it gives directions to what you are explaining...
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> !clone
[22:18] <NictraSavios> ZykoticK9: Oh, I thought it said that clone zilla bs.
[22:19] <penlat_> Thank you all. Really helpful and fast
[22:20] <tsrk> abc123xyz: Thank you! Is AuthorizedKeysFile the one that's causing it to try to create .ssh? I'll try setting that to something writable and see if that works.
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> penlat_, FYI if you backup your /var/cache/apt/archives folder it will also save redownloading update/programs/etc.
[22:21] <DrCooper> If I use multiple processors and Thread classes, do I need to synchronize counters in these Thread classes? http://pastebin.com/1u9K2tUD
[22:21] <abc123xyz> tsrk: try it, I'm not on an linux OS right now (at work) so can't really look into the file, let me know how it turns out
[22:21] <DrCooper> or is the synchronization implicit because it's a Thread?
[22:22] <tsrk> abc123xyz: Ok, trying it now
[22:22] <abc123xyz> abc123xyz: you might need to change every reference of ~/ to whatever directory you want
[22:22] <rooly> has anyone else had problems with indicator-applets? something causes them to fail to open the menu when i click on an applet, unless its on the far left of the screen.
[22:23] <NictraSavios> ZOMGoodness I finnaly got the adobe cs5.5 master suit to install!!!! HALELUJAH!!!!!!!!
[22:23] <NictraSavios> Sorry.... Kinda been going at that for about 8 hours now.
[22:23] <rooly> good job NictraSavios
[22:23] <abc123xyz> NictraSavios: now see if it works :P
[22:23] <rooly> adobe products are always a pain to install on any platform
[22:24] <NictraSavios> abc123xyz: Thats why I was so happy, it dose.
[22:24] <abc123xyz> NictraSavios: ohh :)
[22:24] <NictraSavios> Finnaly. Hellooooo Pure Arch Linux Desktop. shred /dev/sda1 :P
[22:24] <Rich_> Can anyone help with ubuntu boot problems on a Vostro 1015?
[22:25] <abc123xyz> Rich_: don't ask to ask, ask your question
[22:25] <NictraSavios> !ask | Rich_
[22:26] <Rich_> Dell Vostro 1015 laptop will not boot ubuntu
[22:26] <NictraSavios> Rich_: Why
[22:26] <Rich_> Gets through the Dell and Ubuntu splash screens
[22:26] <Rich_> But does not boot linux
[22:26] <NictraSavios> Rich_: Okay. Why? Whats the error codes.
[22:26] <Rich_> Login fails with "Could not update IECauthority file /home/jacob/.IECauthority" error
[22:27] <Rich_> 	 Followed by "There is a problem with the configuration server (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)" message
[22:27] <Rich_> If I exit to a root shell there is no filesystem
[22:27] <fallenangel> trying to set up a vpn. i have question. how do i stop all my traffic getting routed ? in windows there is a checkbox for 'use remote gateway' how do i do that in ubunut
[22:27] <siavoshkc> how can I change folder ownership from root to user or anyone?
[22:27] <Rich_> Disk check on boot sequence fails when run, but the bios disk check passes
[22:27] <NictraSavios> !vpn | fallenangel
[22:27] <abc123xyz> Rich_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=949750
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> siavoshkc, "sudo chown USER:USER folder"
[22:28] <abc123xyz> Rich_: have you tried recovery mode?
[22:28] <Rich_> abc123xyz, no I have not, but will do that
[22:28] <Rich_> Thanks for the link
[22:28] <abc123xyz> Rich_: np
[22:28] <szal> siavoshkc: are you using *buntu or SUSE?
[22:29] <linusA> pulseaudio server starts but pavucontrol reports Connection failed: Connection refused. I have deleted ~/.pulse and removed and installed pulseaudio packages several times. Any suggestions?
[22:29] <siavoshkc> suse
[22:29] <NictraSavios> siavoshkc: then why are you in #ubuntu?
[22:29] <siavoshkc> I have both on VM
[22:29] <NictraSavios> siavoshkc: But your trying to get help with suse?
[22:30] <NictraSavios> siavoshkc: in the ubuntu channel. I want you to stop, think about the logic there.
[22:30] <siavoshkc> this feature should be same on most distros I suppose
[22:30] <lesnek> ciao
[22:30] <siavoshkc> I am trying to get help on linux
[22:30] <NictraSavios> siavoshkc: You suppose? ... Getcha but to #opensuse :P
[22:31] <NictraSavios> siavoshkc: so shoudlnt you be in #linux?
[22:31] <siavoshkc> good idea
[22:31] <siavoshkc> I should be there too
[22:31] <szal> NictraSavios: he is in #suse, hence my question, because I'm in both chans too
[22:31] <qin> NictraSavios: You could give him command to diff /etc/pass... too
[22:31] <mattmatteh> anyone know how to get hardware video playback on intel i3 hd 2000 ?
[22:32] <NictraSavios> siavoshkc: only there. Unless your ubuntu is acting up, in that case, you should be only in #suse
[22:32] <siavoshkc> NictraSavios: err I dont think so
[22:32] <NictraSavios> siavoshkc: If your asking for help with suse here, we will give you this "send suse to /dev/null, and use ubuntu only, have a nice day"
[22:33] <szal> siavoshkc: just to get things straight, it's definitely not a crime to be in multiple distro channels, but it _is_ bad manner to ask the same question across multiple channels that have nothing to do w/ each other
[22:33] <siavoshkc> aha
[22:33] <qin> siavoshkc: Just do not admit to having non-Ubuntu distro ;_
[22:33] <siavoshkc> there is a war
[22:33] <Freakish> Quick question: I have Natty Narwhal, which is so far a great introduction for me to Linux.... but I installed VMWare recently, via their website because the synaptic packages seemed to not be functioning properly.... and now I don't know how to get it off of my machine (I went with VirtualBox instead), since it doesn't show up as even being installed
[22:33] <guntbert> qin: stop that nonsense
[22:34] <NictraSavios> Freakish: its probably in /opt/ look in there for an "uninstalll" script, or look on the VM website
[22:34] <guntbert> siavoshkc: no war at all but different distros handle things differently and what fit for one may do harm on the other
[22:34] <qin> guntbert: 15 lines, and someone just asked for chmod????
[22:35] <Freakish> thanks, Nictra
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> Freakish, the apt options only support uninstalling things installed using apt, which VMWare isn't one.  See if VMWare has some uninstall instructions.  Best of luck.
[22:35] <underscor> Hey guys, any idea why this would happen after an apt-get upgrade?
[22:35] <underscor> http://i.imgur.com/jOmUP.png
[22:35] <NictraSavios> I hate irssi and using a command line only system. I feel so left out when people post images.
[22:35] <siavoshkc> as you may see I'm new to Linux
[22:35] <SPYWARE> anyone know some good ipv6 ubuntu repositorys in europe? using ftp.heanet.ie atm, but only 100 kb / s =(
[22:35] <underscor> NictraSavios: Haha
[22:36] <szal> siavoshkc: being new is not an excuse for cross-posting
[22:36] <siavoshkc> I tried mint, ubuntu, poppy
[22:36] <siavoshkc> I want to say somethin szal
[22:36] <siavoshkc> its not a forum
[22:36] <siavoshkc> I should think people are different in other rooms
[22:36] <Freakish> I wanted to use VMWare, because I hear its a great platform, but whenever I ran it it I got a "Unable to build kernel module." error
[22:37] <siavoshkc> so cross posting has no meaning here
[22:37] <abc123xyz> tsrk: did you get it working with the different directory?
[22:37] <NictraSavios> siavoshkc: This useless stream of dribble pours from your fingers, you have no purposing being here. Now, unless you have a quesstion about ubuntu, please type /close
[22:37] <siavoshkc> I was saying,
[22:37] <szal> !attitude | NictraSavios
[22:37] <oCean> NictraSavios: siavoshkc: this channel is for tech ubuntu support. Let's drop the discussion whether this channel was the correct one or not, and continue ontopic
[22:37] <siavoshkc> I really have a hard time dealing with linux
[22:38] <siavoshkc> non of the distros was satisfactory
[22:38] <oCean> siavoshkc: if you have an ubuntu issue, you are more than welcome to address it here
[22:38] <NictraSavios> Sorry, I really hate people who are being useless. Ill stop.
[22:38] <tsrk> abc123xyz: It turns out the issue that was causing SSH to fail was that the key file I'm using wasn't readable to the user that needed to access it. I have a new problem though, which is that SSH doesn't like key files to be world readable, but I need it to be so that the user can read it. Any idea how to make SSH use it even with 644 permissions?
[22:38] <th0r> tsrk: everyone can read it with 644.....they just can't write to it
[22:38] <oCean> siavoshkc: this channel is not for discussion of other distributions. If you have an ubuntu question/issue, please describe in detail and wait for an answer
[22:39] <siavoshkc> linux channel is voiced?
[22:39] <abc123xyz> tsrk: that I can't help with unfortunately, don't have that much experience, sorry, good luck
[22:39] <tsrk> th0r: I know, but SSH won't let me use 644 permissions. It ignores the key file, telling me to make it more secure.
[22:40] <th0r> tsrk: it probably wants 600, or maybe 640
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> tsrk, couldn't you copy the key to user's .ssh folder and change permission?
[22:40] <NictraSavios> th0r: thats because the 4 means its world readable.
[22:40] <tsrk> th0r: I know, but multiple users need to be able to read it
[22:40] <Freakish> @NictraSavios: I checked my /opt directory.... there is absolutely NOTHING in it. WTF
[22:40] <siavoshkc> oCean: it straightly translates to get the hell out of here
[22:40] <tsrk> ZykoticK9: The key file isn't stored in .ssh, it's in my application's configuration
[22:40] <Freakish> :P
[22:40] <jwash> hey guys, i use xvnc quite heavily. when i disconnect a session and reconnect my programs get lost/hidden. its like i'm connecting to a first session and another session second. is there any way to make sure thati always connect to the same session when i reconnect to a disconnected xvnc session?
[22:40] <NictraSavios> Freakish: Hmm. Id check their website.
[22:40] <oCean> siavoshkc: what does
[22:41] <Freakish> @NictraSavios: It seems like there should be something there. I'm traditionally a Windows user, though, and getting used to Ubuntu is a sleep-losing experience :P
[22:41] <joevandyk_> I have a directory that should be first in everyone's PATH -- even for things like forked processes, cron jobs, etc.  On ubuntu, where's the appropriate place to add the directory to the PATH?
[22:42] <siavoshkc> nm
[22:42] <Rich_> abc123xyz, followed those instructions, but no joy
[22:42] <NictraSavios> Freakish: try googling "uninstall vmware in ubuntu" and check their website
[22:42] <Rich_> There is seemingly no filesystem
[22:42] <qin> Rich_: Two things:
[22:42] <Rich_> Running fsck now
[22:43] <th0r> joevandyk_: ~/.bashrc I believe
[22:43] <NictraSavios> joevandyk_: /etc/bash.bashrc
[22:43] <NictraSavios> ~/.bashrc is user specific.
[22:43] <siavoshkc> thanks for help
[22:43] <PAB_> using ubuntu 11.04-2.6.38 i7-2600k gpu hung rergularly. tried to change to 2.6.39 and 3.0rc4. does not help. any suggestions?
[22:43] <qin> Rich_: 1. Boot LiveCD, (liveusb better), install testdisk and check partitions.
[22:43] <tsrk> th0r: abc123xyz: Permissions 0640 for '...' are too open.
[22:43] <Freakish> @NictraSavios: ty
[22:44] <tsrk> th0r: abc123xyz: So I can't even make a group w/ all the users that need to access it :/
[22:44] <Rich_> qin: thanks, will try that
[22:45] <NictraSavios> Im so glad I started using lvm.... :D
[22:45] <qin> Rich_: Remove drive, slave it sowhere and try to copy any important parts.
[22:45] <qin> Rich_: Does bootiing into "text" with no "splash" helps?
[22:46] <Anonimo> hello everybody, I'm having some troubles with a wireless joystick
[22:46] <NictraSavios> tmux or screen ?
[22:47] <badone> ?
[22:47] <Rich_> qin: its a laptop and I don't have a cradle for the drive to slave it anywhere
[22:47] <NictraSavios> Anonimo: You should ask your doctor about problems with your joystick.
[22:47] <NictraSavios> I DID NOT MEAN TO SEND THAT
[22:47] <NictraSavios> sorry
[22:47] <Rich_> qin: booting cd now
[22:47] <bazhang> NictraSavios, take that elsewhere
[22:47] <NictraSavios> I was gonna backspace soryy
[22:47] <Anonimo> it's a diunamai, and the game I use won't recognize 3 buttons (the most important)
[22:47] <JAWC> SPYWARE, archive.monubuntu.fr is up to date according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors (Florian Entreprise, 100Mbps) and has an AAAA record. Not sure if there's any way of telling which of those mirrors have IPv6 other than checking them individually.
[22:48] <Rich_> qin: this sympton is unchanged after going from a v10 to v11 install
[22:48] <bazhang> Anonimo, IR? bluetooth?
[22:48] <Rich_> qin: I thought a fresh install would fix the boot problem, but apparently not
[22:48] <Anonimo> NictraSavios, LOL!
[22:48] <Anonimo> bazhang, yes, and it has it's own receiver
[22:49] <Freakish> @SPYWARE: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=716567
[22:49] <Anonimo> sorry, bluetooth 1,9 GHz
[22:49] <bazhang> Anonimo, there were two choices : bt or ir
[22:49] <NictraSavios> Okay, imma turn the channel off for about 10 minutes, wayyy to many good jokes involvig blue joysticks.
[22:49] <Freakish> they have a couple IPV6 repositories listed, and a redirect to possibly find more
[22:49] <Anonimo> bazhang, yep, I didn't noticed
[22:49] <Anonimo> bazhang, bluetooth 1,9 GHz
[22:49] <dinkdink> Rich_: are you saying you did not read lmgtfy's recommendation for that
[22:51] <Meshezabeel> When I right click on a USB stick on the Ubunut desktop, I have options that say "Eject" as well as "Safely Remove Drive". Does it matter which one I use?
[22:52] <bazhang> Meshezabeel, best to choose safely remove
[22:52] <Rich_> dinkdink: must have missed it, sorry
[22:53] <Meshezabeel> bazhang: okay, what is the perpose of "Eject" for a USB stick?
[22:53] <dinkdink> Rich_: well here man read up http://tinyurl.com/akccrb
[22:53] <Random832> Meshezabeel: it basically unmounts the filesystem
[22:53] <oCean> dinkdink: what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[22:53] <Random832> it's weird that there are two options - but oddly enough windows does it too
[22:54] <bazhang> dinkdink, that is not an acceptable support offering. lmgtfy is not OK here
[22:54] <Meshezabeel> okay thanks all
[22:54] <dinkdink> geez just trying to lighten the mood
[22:54] <oCean> dinkdink: wrong channel
[22:54] <bazhang> dinkdink, if you do not know then dont answer. this is the jokes channel.
[22:54] <bazhang> +not
[22:55] <dinkdink> Meshezabeel: i would imagine it's better to unmount the thing before unplugging it but i never do either.. i grip it and rip it
[22:55] <bazhang> dinkdink, not good advice
[22:55] <rosemarie> i need heeeellp:(
[22:55] <bazhang> rosemarie, with what
[22:56] <dinkdink> but you cant tell me why can you
[22:56] <siavoshkc> bye friendsss
[22:56] <bazhang> dinkdink, why what
[22:56] <dinkdink> why it's not a good idea
[22:56] <rosemarie> i used to have wireless connection and one day i opened my comupter and network manager is gone so i have no idea how to get internet back, rite now im using a wire thing to get it so i can try to fix it..helppp
[22:57] <bazhang> dinkdink, safely removing a usb stick?
[22:57] <Meshezabeel> dinkdink: I did that once by accident and then was not able to retreive my files properly
[22:57] <rosemarie> also bear with me in 14..
[22:57] <th0r> dinkdink: most linux file systems cache before writing. If you remove the drive before the file is completely written it will crash the drive
[22:57] <dinkdink> been yanking my usb drive out by the cord for years without a problem and there is 1 TB of stuff on there
[22:57] <pr0ton> which is better sed  or awk ?
[22:58] <rp2> hi - any trn users in here? besides me that is
[22:58] <Awsoonn> pr0ton: they are both used for different tasks :) learn both~
[22:58] <pr0ton> Awsoonn, ok!
[22:58] <pr0ton> what is the nicest regex that would match an ipaddress ?
[22:59] <pr0ton> ipv4
[22:59] <rp2> i'm running into a consistent crash and I#m not sure how to make it go away in a persistent way
[22:59] <qin> pr0ton: /j ##sed and /j #awk , you are likely to have two anwsera.
[23:00] <rp2> and in #perl they're probably going to tell you not to use a regex
[23:00] <Meshezabeel> pr0ton: fgrep :p
[23:00] <Awsoonn> so, where my i find unity log files? I just upgraded to narwal and logged in to no unity launcher or menubar, etc
[23:01] <bazhang> Awsoonn, just the blank desktop? no panel etc?
[23:01] <Awsoonn> bazhang: yup
[23:01] <derp> is there a way to refresh the applications menu without logging in and out to see new programs?
[23:01] <bazhang> Awsoonn, can you get to a terminal? alt ctrl T?
[23:01] <guntbert> derp: they are usually updated immediately
[23:01] <chrisf> derp: it should just work
[23:02] <pexil> yeah, I dunno, I'm not seeing new programs right awayu
[23:02] <Awsoonn> bazhang: I can, but no window decor
[23:03] <Awsoonn> ctl alt T is a nice trick, I didn't know that :D
[23:03] <bazhang> Awsoonn, I ran into that same bug upon initial install; you'll need to get all the updates to fix it
[23:04] <dinkdink> rosemarie: out of curiousity what is in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:04] <bazhang> Awsoonn, at first I ran the unity-2d-launcher until I fixed it
[23:05] <chaddy> hmm, updated firefox lost dns, nice
[23:05] <Awsoonn> bazhang: I am doing updates right now, but only updates avail are for firefox
[23:06] <dinkdink> mozilla has a firefox 5 in source on their ftp
[23:07] <dinkdink> 64 megs
[23:07] <bthornton> Hey all... I upgraded to Natty and am using the "Ubuntu Classic" desktop. I tried to reset my desktop effects back to the way they were using the CompizConfig Settings Manager, but to no avail. I'm running nVidia drivers. Can someone help?
[23:07] <bazhang> !fx5
[23:07] <bthornton> (upgraded to Natty from Maverick)
[23:09] <spacebug-> I get "usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usbfs while 'simple-scan' sets config #1" when both mt external usb-disk and my new usb-scanner is plugged in, and the scanner is not detected. Without the external disk is works. I read a post I found on google that disableing usb or some support in kernel and instead use modules could work. Any thoughts?
[23:09] <dinkdink> epiphany-browser is a lot faster than firefox imo
[23:09] <Anthraxium-64> anyone in here has cryptographic skill? http://pastebin.com/TXVJRsyf
[23:10] <andregabriel> I'm trying to install openssl on ubuntu. After make, I'm getting "out range of signed 32bit displacement"
[23:10] <andregabriel> any help?
[23:10] <ikonia> andregabriel: you don't need to use make
[23:10] <bazhang> Anthraxium-64, try a crypto channel?
[23:10] <ikonia> andregabriel: open ssl is installed by default on all ubuntu builds
[23:10] <Anthraxium-64> bazhang: already in there
[23:10] <bazhang> Anthraxium-64, how does this relate to ubuntu
[23:10] <dinkdink> andregabriel: did you build-dep first
[23:10] <Anthraxium-64> bazhang: not.
[23:11] <bazhang> Anthraxium-64, #ubuntu-offtopic then please
[23:11] <dinkdink> ikonia: i can confirm that it came with lucid server, that is for sure
[23:11] <chaddy> pulseaudio all crackly and pulseaudio -k not doing the trick, what's the next step? in fact it's positively skipping
[23:12] <ikonia> dinkdink: I know it does
[23:12] <dinkdink> ikonia: what about minimal
[23:12] <andregabriel> I was following the steps listed at http://www.geeksww.com/tutorials/libraries/openssl/installation/installing_openssl_on_ubuntu_linux.php
[23:12] <andregabriel> but came up with that 32bit error...
[23:12] <chaddy> nvm, fifth time I asked it it got with the programme
[23:13] <ikonia> dinkdink: still required
[23:13] <ikonia> andregabriel: what OS are you running ?
[23:13] <ikonia> andregabriel: open ssl is already installed
[23:13] <dinkdink> http://pastebin.com/TXVJRsyf
[23:13] <dinkdink> sorry
[23:13] <dinkdink> wrong window
[23:14] <andregabriel> @ikonia Well ikonia, my rake db:migrate command is telling ERROR: "no such file to load -- openssl"
[23:14] <andregabriel> @ikonia UBUNTU
[23:14] <ikonia> andregabriel: what version of ubuntu ?
[23:15] <andregabriel> @ikonia 11.04
[23:15] <ikonia> andregabriel: ok - then openssl is installed by default, you don't need to compile it
[23:16] <ikonia> andregabriel: type "openssl version" in a terminal
[23:16] <spacebug-> haha OMG! The problem was that my virtualbox got the scanner ;)
[23:17] <andregabriel> ok, it is installed! But the strange thing is the message of rake db:migrate: "rake aborted! no such file to load -- openssl..."
[23:18] <andregabriel> @ikonia version is 0,98o 01 Jun 2010
[23:18] <ikonia> andregabriel: the application is problably not configure correctly
[23:18] <ikonia> andregabriel: how did you install rake ?
[23:18] <andregabriel> I don't recall, I've being installing so many things...
[23:18] <ikonia> andregabriel: well, I can't help you then.
[23:18] <andregabriel> should I reinstall rake ?
[23:18] <andregabriel> how to do that?
[23:19] <feijo> hi folks
[23:19] <rosco_y> what is the name of the software that enables you to create "stand-alone" applications out of websites?
[23:19] <rosco_y> hi feijo
[23:20] <rosco_y> andregabriel: what is rake?
[23:20] <feijo> I have a problem with my ubuntu, after I installed compiz, I lost the capacity to resize or move (no title area) any window :(
[23:20] <bazhang> rosco_y, portable apps?
[23:20] <PythonSnake> How to check our partition on Ubuntu ?
[23:20] <chrisf> rosco_y: rake is a build/automation tool for people who like ruby and don't like `make`.
[23:20] <qin> feijo: metacity --replace
[23:21] <guntbert> andrea_: in the future use the ubuntu package managing system for software install/remove
[23:21] <szal> rosco_y: applications out of websites?
[23:21] <feijo> nice!
[23:21] <feijo> thanks qin
[23:21] <bazhang> PythonSnake, the partition table? the various partitions? sudo fdisk -l you mean?
[23:21] <rosco_y> bazhang: thank you.  I've used this little app before that let's you put in a website link into a dialog, and then it creates an icon, and when you run it, it opens the website in what feels like a stand-anone application.
[23:21] <feijo> but I've lost compiz?
[23:21] <qin> PythonSnake: Check?
[23:22] <PythonSnake> The partition like in windows
[23:22] <rosco_y> I can't remember what it was called
[23:22] <PythonSnake> C:/
[23:22] <PythonSnake> D:/
[23:22] <bazhang> PythonSnake, tried my command?
[23:22] <PythonSnake> I meant navigate through partitions
[23:22] <bazhang> PythonSnake, to do what
[23:22] <qin> PythonSnake: cd
[23:22] <PythonSnake> to check files
[23:23] <qin> PythonSnake: ls
[23:23] <rosco_y> For example, I used it to make an "application" out of "pandora.com", and then I could run pandora in a little window, about the size of a winamp window
[23:23] <PythonSnake> ?
[23:23] <rosco_y> it was pretty nice
[23:23] <qin> PythonSnake: Send you pm, is that ok?
[23:24] <Pici> rosco_y: prism?
[23:24] <rosco_y> qin: thank you :)  It was "prism", and your comment to PythonSnake "Send you pm" reminded me :)
[23:24] <PythonSnake> qin: ok
[23:24] <qin> rosco_y: Sweet.
[23:25] <rosco_y> Pici: thank you, yes prism is the software I was trying to think of
[23:25] <PythonSnake> help
[23:25] <PythonSnake> ...
[23:25] <qin> PythonSnake: You should see new window with private chat.
[23:25] <PythonSnake> I think ALL my data are gone
[23:25] <rosco_y> PythonSnake: what kind of data?
[23:25] <rypervenche> hahaha
[23:25] <guntbert> !enter | PythonSnake
[23:25] <bazhang> rypervenche, ?
[23:26] <PythonSnake> All my data
[23:26] <bazhang> PythonSnake, you overwrote it?
[23:26] <nobodies> does anyone know how you get rid of the info that comes up when you open gnu screen on ubuntu, in gentoo it just launches with info copyright info or pressing enter?
[23:26] <TheMatrix3000> i am having major issues mounting a freenas nfs share
[23:27] <Pici> nobodies: I thought it mentioned on that screen how to disable it.
[23:27] <guntbert> nobodies: screen -q  ?
[23:27] <TheMatrix3000> can anyone help me basically map my /home to a FreeNAS server
[23:27] <PythonSnake> guntbert: no
[23:28] <nobodies> thanks, i'll just alias that in my bashrc :)
[23:28] <bazhang> PythonSnake, care to answer my question?
[23:28] <nobodies> Pici: not that i saw and i did look
[23:28] <guntbert> PythonSnake: I beg your pardon? did you want to answer bazhang ?
[23:28] <PythonSnake> sorry
[23:28] <PythonSnake> bazhang: no*
[23:29] <guntbert> PythonSnake: if you want help you should give as much info as possible, all in one line
[23:31] <andregabriel> I'm stuck. I have updated rake to latest version (0.9.2) and ran bundle exec rake db:migrate and still getting the error message: "rake aborted! no such file to load -- openssl." any help?
[23:32] <bazhang> !details | PythonSnake
[23:32] <guntbert> andregabriel: you have probably an error in a config file
[23:34] <andregabriel> guntbert, what files could I look for?
[23:34] <GROANMAN> HELLO ALL.....CAN ANYONE IN HERE HELP ME  AS WELL AS ANSWER A FEW UBUNTU QUESTIONS?
[23:34] <qin> GROANMAN: NO (with Caps)
[23:35] <metroider> my monitor goes to sleep when using/watching flash video... is there a way to make ubuntu recognize when flash is in use and not turn the monitor off?
[23:35] <Ddpbf> GROANMAN: do not use caps lock
[23:35] <GROANMAN> sorry..been a while since i've been in a chat room
[23:35] <Ddpbf> it is unpolite way of communicating on iternet
[23:35] <Ddpbf> :)
[23:35] <Ddpbf> GROANMAN: shoot your questions :)
[23:36] <qin> bazhang: PythonSnake "fdisk -l" http://pastebin.com/bZJd7jCV
[23:36] <spacebug-> ubuntuone questions, are they in here as well?
[23:36] <bytesaber_work> it wasn't until ubuntu started taking over, that linux docs now confusingly all include "sudo"
[23:36] <bazhang> bytesaber_work, and?
[23:36] <ZKAT8IT> how would i install a program on ubuntu 11.04 so the system recognizes it as an installed app instead of just a folder with the app in it? trying to install the new blender and theres no repo for it
[23:36] <metroider> is there a way to set up a <presentation mode> in unity? --i know there is a gnome plugin.
[23:36] <bytesaber_work> why not just su - if you're going to give a user access to every single root command
[23:37] <GROANMAN> ok
[23:37] <bazhang> bytesaber_work, sudo -i
[23:37] <bytesaber_work> sudo was meant for setting up a limited number of commands to a mortal
[23:37] <Ddpbf> bytesaber_work: suse also uses sudo
[23:37] <ColKurtz> sususususudio
[23:37] <Maimster> Sup everyone.
[23:37] <Ddpbf> and knoppix, and mepis
[23:37] <Ddpbf> etc
[23:37] <bazhang> bytesaber_work, sudo is what ubuntu uses. not up for debate here
[23:37] <chili555> bytesaber_work, resistance is futile...
[23:38] <GROANMAN> well  every time i download a copy of ubuntu or kbuntu i keep getting a file missing no no...i think it says i have one file error
[23:38] <bytesaber_work> chili555, >: )
[23:38] <Ddpbf> GROANMAN: try torrent
[23:38] <bazhang> GROANMAN, via torrent? http?
[23:39] <bytesaber_work> so i install xinetd and tftp server via apt today.     did it include a template tftp conf file?  nope.   But i could good one on ubuntu's forums for one.   Why not just include the template file in the .deb?
[23:39] <GROANMAN> Ddpbf and bazhang not familiar with torrent or what it is
[23:39] <bekir> Hello everybody
[23:39] <afeijo> lol, I'm in trouble
[23:39] <chaddy> hi bekir
[23:40] <GROANMAN> Ddpbf !!!......is it ok to pm you?
[23:40] <afeijo> I removed compiz, it toke away the ubuntu-desktop, now I can do nothing with my machine!
[23:40] <afeijo> no terminal, nothing
[23:40] <bytesaber_work> ubuntu needs to make ubuntu-ism's and not adopt debian-isms
[23:40] <Ddpbf> yes
[23:40] <oraqol> hey guys, im running spachechem, its a game, natively on linux, its not very graphics intensive, but everytime i play it the cpu hits 85% +.  Is that just how its supposed to run?  I read somewhere about cpu affinity, but not sure how its done.  I have dual core AMD turion
[23:40] <GROANMAN> ok kewl
[23:40] <bytesaber_work> if you're gonna take over the world, do it responsibly
[23:40] <afeijo> first, what is the command to open the terminal?
[23:40] <Ddpbf> GROANMAN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)
[23:41] <bazhang> afeijo, ctrl alt T
[23:41] <afeijo> bazhang, no
[23:41] <chaddy> afeijo: or ctrl alt F1
[23:41] <bazhang> afeijo, you mean tty?
[23:41] <afeijo> oh! good one chaddy, I mentally blocked that
[23:41] <chaddy> actually F1-F6, you have many
[23:41] <afeijo> yes
[23:41] <afeijo> trying
[23:41] <bazhang> afeijo, then say so
[23:42] <Cas07> how would i debug a hard lockup when resuming from standby?
[23:42] <afeijo> bazhang, I dont call it tty
[23:42] <bazhang> Cas07, screensaver issue?
[23:42] <Cas07> i dont use a screensaver
[23:42] <velofille> Cas07, i have the same thing on my dell laptop, apparently its a bug
[23:42] <afeijo> chaddy, it didnt work, F1-F6 show a pice of my desktop wallpaper and that is it
[23:43] <velofille> Cas07, is this on natty?
[23:43] <Cas07> velofille: ahh i have a dell too, yeh
[23:43] <velofille> Cas07, then its a known bug, disable sleep/suspend and wait for an upgrade :(
[23:43] <Somelauw> mod4 + enter
[23:43] <Cas07> do you have a bug reference?
[23:43] <chili555> d00d! yer gonna hate a dell!
[23:43] <afeijo> I can create a desktop shortcut, but I need the tty/terminal command
[23:43] <chaddy> afeijo: if you have another computer you could ssh in (if you have an ssh server running)
[23:43] <velofille> nah the dell is usually great, and they do support linux on their website
[23:43] <chaddy> that will give you cli access
[23:44] <velofille> Cas07, nope, but google will provide that
[23:44] <velofille> Cas07, i expect it should be a faster upgrade, its a kernel bug iirc.
[23:44] <Cas07> velofille: well i have searched and coming here was last resort
[23:44] <afeijo> I didnt install ssh server in that vm
[23:44] <chaddy> afeijo: mingetty
[23:44] <Cas07> velofille: ok
[23:44] <chaddy> or just plain getty
[23:44] <Docolero> afeijo: xterm maybe?
[23:44] <velofille> Cas07, http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=dell+suspend+freeze+ubuntu+natty
[23:45] <oraqol> should a game like spacechem take 85+ cpu?
[23:45] <velofille> im seeing a couple there already
[23:45] <afeijo> Docolero, not found
[23:45] <velofille> Cas07, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/748994 add yourself to the affected user list
[23:45] <afeijo> where is xterm. which folder?
[23:46] <Docolero> I'd guess in /usr/bin
[23:46] <Docolero> But usually should be in $PATH
[23:47] <afeijo> what do you type to open xterm thru the ALT+F2 ?
[23:47] <Cas07> afeijo: xterm
[23:47] <chaddy> xterm
[23:47] <afeijo> lol
[23:47] <afeijo> /usr/bin checking
[23:48] <Cas07> afeijo: "which xterm" will tell you where an app is located
[23:48] <Autoclesis> is there an apple airport extreme base station compatibility issue with ubuntu
[23:49] <afeijo> got it!
[23:49] <Cas07> velofille: thanks
[23:49] <afeijo> Cas07, I do not had tty ! lol no way to run any cmd
[23:49] <Nisstyre> yes
[23:49] <afeijo> ok I got xterm, now what shall I install to restore my sidebar?
[23:49] <afeijo> I'm close to format this, damn broken machine hehehe
[23:49] <chaddy> afeijo: you can run any command from alt + F2, that's the run dialogue
[23:49] <Cas07> afeijo: if this is natty then: unity
[23:49] <velofille> afeijo, you could clear your settings, do you not have a mouse to right click on desktop?
[23:50] <afeijo> no alt+f2 working
[23:50] <afeijo> velofille, yes
[23:50] <Docolero> afeijo: you unistalled compiz? Try sudo apt-get install unity
[23:50] <chili555> afeijo, did u say ubuntu-desktop got removed? if so, i'd start there
[23:50] <pain> alt+f2  what'is??
[23:50] <Docolero> That did the trick for me
[23:50] <afeijo> yes Docolero
[23:51] <afeijo> chili555, I try to install it back, but it would also add compiz, which was the one that broke my pc
[23:51] <Ddpbf> pain: it is krunner keyboar schortcut
[23:51] <Ddpbf> :>
[23:51] <afeijo> well, installing unity and compiz, lets see
[23:51] <afeijo> now gdm restart ?
[23:52] <afeijo> fun³
[23:52] <afeijo> we dont have that adrenaline with redmond
[23:52] <bekir> Have nobody speaking turkish in this channel ?
[23:52] <Docolero> I did a shutdown -r iirc
[23:53] <afeijo> sidebar is back, cool
[23:53] <solayagim> hello people
[23:54] <dinkdink> afeijo: did you cange your default runlevel
[23:54] <andregabriel> from terminal how do I get to  folder /ext/openssl/ on ruby? I've tried to go at ~/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.2-p180$ but there is no /etc folder there...
[23:54] <afeijo> I'm back with my original problem, no resize nor title at any window
[23:54] <qin> !datarecovery
[23:54] <jo-erlend_> can someone tell me how I make xchat-gnome write the nick of the sender for every message? Currently, it only displays the nick for the first message in a series.
[23:54] <andregabriel> any help?
[23:54] <Totem-Schalter> bekir: #ubuntu-tr
[23:55] <bekir> Totem-Schalter : Thanks very much :)
[23:55] <n1ck> rhythmbox wont read my new ipod touch... any solutions to this problem??
[23:56] <Docolero> afeijo: not even in the the top panel of your desktop (i.e. not the application window itself)? Might be hard to spot
[23:56] <qin> jo-erlend_: /j #xchat
[23:56] <afeijo> Docolero, I do have the top panel, with the battery, clock, etc.?
[23:57] <afeijo> qin, what was the cmd to restore my window resize?
[23:57] <Cas07> afeijo: that means something up with unity
[23:57] <qin> afeijo: metacity --replace
[23:57] <Docolero> Yes. There should be the resize buttons etc if you have an active window
[23:57] <afeijo> that one!
[23:58] <afeijo> qin, but it didnt return the prompt, and when I cancel it, things got fuzy
[23:58] <afeijo> metacity restore the title and resize, but now the sidebar dont show up... LOL
[23:59] <qin> afeijo: Alt-F2 and command