[07:44] <Unit193> I know you/we/Xubuntu is switching to leafpad and saw this come across my email: http://www.mail-archive.com/lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net/msg04262.html | Title: [Lubuntu-desktop] Leafpad 0.8.18.1 packaged -- testing wanted
[12:54] <knome> same here:
[12:55] <knome> leaving now and will be off until sunday evening
[12:55] <knome> have a nice weekend everybody
[19:22] <ochosi> micahg: seems ff doesn't like scrollbars without arrows/steppers, especially horizontal ones break, anything we/you can do about that?
[19:23] <micahg> ochosi: firefox uses xul scrollbars ATM
[19:26] <Unit193> GridCube , charlie-tca: Looks like we have both CDs today (Still oversized by far)
[19:26] <GridCube> today i can't test, sorry
[19:27] <Unit193> astraljava: Forgot to ping you too ^^
[19:27] <ochosi> micahg: so the answer is "no"?
[19:28] <micahg> wow, live CD is finally back to what it was before
[19:28] <micahg> ochosi: hmm, not sure I understand the question, why would you have a scrollbar w/out arrows
[19:29] <ochosi> micahg: why not? it's a design question. i mean seriously: how often do you scroll by clicking the arrows?
[19:29] <micahg> semi often?
[19:29] <ochosi> rly? hm. i *never* use them
[19:30] <ochosi> anyway, there are a lot of themes now that don't use the arrows
[19:30] <ochosi> and ff breaks with all of them
[19:30] <ochosi> so that's an annoying problem
[19:30] <GridCube> i scroll by clicking on the arrows :/
[19:31] <GridCube> my mouse's wheel doesnt work, and its easier that way most of the time
[19:32] <GridCube> grabing the scroll bar and moving it by hand inst really a good idea on very long webpages or pdf's, i do use lots of pdfs
[19:33] <ochosi> on pdfs i usually use the keyboard
[19:33] <GridCube> true, that too
[19:34] <micahg> ochosi: does mozilla 635018 sound related?
[19:36] <ochosi> micahg: not really, i'll show you my problem/s screenshot-wise if you like
[19:37] <micahg> ochosi: hmm, well, I'm kinda busy ATM, can we do this later (or send me an email)
[19:37] <ochosi> micahg: sure, np. we can talk tomorrow or another day, no rush
[19:38] <micahg> k, thanks
[19:38] <ochosi> well, thank you ;)
[19:39] <ochosi> GridCube: that's how the scrollbar looks now: 159669
[19:39] <ochosi> meh
[19:39] <ochosi> http://imagebin.org/159669
[19:40] <GridCube> yes, i've seen them, they do look pretty :)
[19:40] <GridCube> :P but then again i change my theme back to albatross
[19:40] <GridCube> XD sorry
[19:40] <GridCube> its really too shiny
[19:40] <ochosi> my problem is: i've tried a lot of arrow-styles, but none of them fit the scrollbar-style imo
[19:40] <ochosi> albatross has pretty bright parts as well
[19:40] <ochosi> i'll probably dim it a bit more
[19:41] <GridCube> mmm whay about something near the color of the back part... let me do some silly mockup
[19:41] <ochosi> sure, go ahead
[19:44] <GridCube> http://imagebin.org/159670
[19:45] <GridCube> :P as i said, a silly idea
[19:47] <ochosi> you mean practically invisible scrollbar-arrows?
[19:47] <ochosi> or is that white box intentional
[19:49] <GridCube> not intentional, i wanted it to be all the same color of the arrow and the arrow blank but my editor choosed to fill the box whit white XD
[19:50] <ochosi> you mean kinda inverse arrows?
[19:51] <GridCube> i mean, almost invisible, so they wont bother the view, but actually be there?
[19:51] <ochosi> not sure it's possible tbh
[19:51] <ochosi> the options with arrows in murrine are really anything else than endless
[19:51] <ochosi> two basic styles, the one that albatross uses and the one that greybird uses
[19:51] <ochosi> and you can only scale the ones albatross uses
[19:51] <ochosi> (the empty arrows)
[19:51] <GridCube> :(
[19:51] <ochosi> and that's about it
[19:52] <GridCube> but you cant choose its color?
[19:52] <ochosi> not independantly of the scrollbar-colors i think (iirc)
[19:52] <GridCube> the shape doesn't really matter, the idea is them to be the same or almost the same as the background of the scrolling
[19:54] <GridCube> ^color
[19:54] <ochosi> mhm
[19:54] <ochosi> i'll see what i can do
[19:54] <ochosi> but i'm a bit pessimistic
[19:55] <ochosi> g2g
[19:55] <GridCube> :D
[19:55] <ochosi> bbl
[19:55] <GridCube> thanks
[19:55] <GridCube> see you
[22:15] <astraljava> Unit193: Yeah. I can't do testing for several days at this time. My son came over for a visit. I'll get on it on Sunday evening. Besides, it's Midsummer in Finland. Nobody does anything now. :D
[22:16] <astraljava> Unit193: A graver matter is that I'll be moving to another city soon. Starting from Thursday next week, I'll not be in my own apartment for an indefinite amount of time. I expect to be able to return to some sort of testing later in July, or hopefully the latest in early August.
[22:25] <micahg> astraljava: that's fine, it's whenever you can
[22:25] <Unit193> There are people on the computer for testing all the time :(
[22:26] <Unit193> I'm not sure how well this one could take it too...
[22:26] <micahg> charlie-tca: I don't know if I'll be able to make the meeting next week
[22:28] <Unit193> Live didn't like me
[22:34] <Unit193> How well do you think a P4 2.8GHz, 2G, and 8xx Video could handle VBox?