[00:00] <bomber> i got the new one installed
[00:00] <Ddpbf> congrats
[00:00] <bomber> it was a project but its done and operating properly now..... thx
[00:01] <bomber> had to pull out the video card and install the nvidia drivers
[00:02] <bomber> plus had to disconnect my 2 ide hard drives or the bootloader wouldnt install to the pcie drive
[00:02] <bomber> psyched...... gonna install the programs i like now.... thx again
[00:03] <valorie> lcb: it's in systemsettings
[00:03] <valorie> I hate that thing too
[00:04] <valorie> workspace behavior > screen edges | lcb
[00:07] <lcb> valorie: let me see what's going on... thanks
[00:07] <lcb> valorie: when maximizing the windows are not going to the top edge. that's why i need to see what's going on with it
[00:08] <valorie> oh weird
[00:08] <lcb> monitor settings are ok...
[00:09] <lcb> valorie: if i recall right, screen edges are to set actions when touching borders.. bot maybe something on there is doing this..
[00:09] <lcb> bot/but
[00:09] <valorie> right, sorry I misread your question
[00:10] <lcb> valorie: nooooo maybe something there is related to this behavior, because, indeed, i changed defaults on that sometime ago
[00:16] <lcb> well, reinstalling whole kwin* pretty sure woudnt do anything but... just in case
[00:21] <valorie> you can just move ~/.kde to .kde-old
[00:21] <valorie> that's the equiv. of starting with a new user
[00:21] <valorie> then move back the stuff you know is OK
[00:21] <valorie> takes awhile, but works well
[00:30] <lcb> valorie: :) thank you.
[00:31] <valorie> \o/
[00:31] <lcb> hehehe
[00:33] <lcb> did that before because of loss or messed virtual desktops. i didn't discover yet why they vanished or appeared in a different order. the problem is it happens often. i'm trying the hard way now - trying to search for the source of these problems
[00:39] <jwash> hey guys, i have x11vnc working, is there a way to bind it to xrdp rather than having xvnc bound to it?
[00:40] <Linkmaster> lcb: valorie: I once helped a guy out with a wonky .kde by that same method, it works very well
[00:40] <NotQ> hi everyone, im running 10.10 and want to upgrade to 11.04, when i do "sudo do-release-upgrade" it says that no new releases are found. Any ideas?
[00:40] <bomber> i have another question
[00:40] <lcb> LINKMASTER! You are alive and moving!!!
[00:41] <Linkmaster> Yes I am :D
[00:41] <lcb> NotQ: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[00:41] <Linkmaster> NotQ: oh I had this issue myself..
[00:41] <NotQ> kubuntu
[00:41] <bomber> in additional drivers it has the nvidia driver listed and it says its activated but not currently in use
[00:41] <Linkmaster> try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -d
[00:41] <lcb> NotQ: what happens if you run the software update?
[00:42] <Linkmaster> Or, also, make sure that software settings are checked for all releases, rather then just for LTS or the sort
[00:42] <bomber> how do i put the driver in use?
[00:43] <NotQ> linkmaster, when i do that it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[00:43] <lcb> NotQ: type in a terminal uname -a
[00:44] <lcb> '$ uname -a'
[00:44] <NotQ> Linux peter-laptop 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 18:42:20 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:44] <NotQ> thats the output
[00:45] <Linkmaster> lcb: the simplist way would be for him to log into a tty session real fast
[00:45] <lcb> NotQ: if you run the software update, don't you have a notification of an upgrade avaiulable?
[00:45] <lcb> available, either
[00:46] <NotQ> sorry, im new to linux, how do i run the update?
[00:47] <Linkmaster> NotQ: switch to a tty session real fast. To do that, press and hold 'alt+ctrl+F1' and tell us what version it is. To come back, press 'alt+ctrl+F7'
[00:47] <lcb> NotQ: so you should do graphical, not the terminal...
[00:51] <lcb> NotQ: kpackagekit <- the application to manage software/packages/upgrades
[00:51] <jwash> I'm not sure who it was that helped me before, the key is to have x11vnc installed and xvnc installed. Stop both, and rename x11vnc to xvnc. then you can run xrdp and call x11vnc to save the sessions at reconnect.
[00:53] <NotQ> sorry about that, ctrl+alt+f7 wasnt bringing me out
[00:54] <Linkmaster> Its supposed to..
[00:54] <NotQ> it said version 10.10 and that a new version was available, but the upgrade aborts for some reason
[00:54] <lcb> NotQ: 'lsb_release -a' in the terminal
[00:55] <NotQ> 10.10 maverick
[00:56] <lcb> NotQ: type this 'kpackagekit -caption "%c" %i %F'
[00:56] <lcb> and tell us if you have any notification of upgrade available
[00:58] <lcb> NotQ: sorry, type only kpackagekit
[00:58] <NotQ> oh ok
[00:58] <lcb> my fault
[00:58] <NotQ> its open
[01:00] <NotQ> what should i change in kpackagekit?
[01:00] <lcb> NotQ: <lcb> and tell us if you have any notification of upgrade available
[01:01] <NotQ> one update for libcurl3-gnutls
[01:01] <NotQ> but no distro update
[01:01] <lcb> ok, hold... typing a long line
[01:01] <NotQ> ok
[01:03] <lcb> in the terminal type: sudo -i | then type apt-get update && apt-get autoremove && apt-get autoclean && apt-get clean && apt-get check && apt-get -f install && apt-get upgrade
[01:03] <lcb> then return here
[01:03] <NotQ> ok, hold on
[01:03] <lcb> tell us if a lot of thigs changed...
[01:03]  * Linkmaster notes that that IS long long command
[01:04] <lcb> thigs=things (in typoenglish)
[01:05] <NotQ> seems like some stuff changed
[01:06] <lcb> NotQ: a lot?
[01:06] <NotQ> id say a lot ya
[01:06] <lcb> NotQ: do in the terminal'exit' then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:07] <NotQ> ok
[01:07] <lcb> then sudo do-release-upgrade -d BUT if not a lot of packages installed
[01:08] <lcb> what i mean is if you have a substantial amount of packages installed at this point you need to reboot
[01:08] <tequil0018> hello everyone
[01:08] <tequil0018> i have a trouble with my localohost
[01:08] <tequil0018> i want to change the ip and i can;t
[01:08]  * lcb changed nick to *** everyone
[01:08] <lcb> hello tequil0018
[01:08] <tequil0018> i edited /etc/hosts
[01:08] <tequil0018> and nothing at all
[01:08] <NotQ> ok, i will play it safe and reboot, then it will be back and try the upgrade
[01:09] <NotQ> one sec
[01:09] <lcb> NotQ: great
[01:09] <tequil0018> any idea....
[01:09] <tequil0018> thanks in advance
[01:09] <tequil0018> :)
 i want to change the ip and i can;t "" why?
[01:10] <lcb> changing it for static?
[01:10] <tequil0018> no
[01:10] <tequil0018> i am running 2 vms in cloud
[01:10] <tequil0018> and in my project i have my services localhost:...
[01:10] <NotQ> ok im back, trying to upgrade now
[01:11] <lcb> NotQ: wait
[01:11] <tequil0018> so i want the vm1 locahost show the ip of vm2
[01:11] <lcb> NotQ: sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[01:11] <NotQ> oh ok
[01:12] <tequil0018> and vice versa
[01:12] <lcb> tequil0018: check what you have now by typing ifconfig
[01:13] <lcb> tequil0018: i'm not reproducing in my mind what/how to do what you want
[01:13] <tequil0018> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d0:0d:3f:27:06:e5
[01:13] <tequil0018>           inet addr:10.10.10.3  Bcast:10.10.10.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[01:13] <tequil0018>           inet6 addr: fe80::d20d:3fff:fe27:6e5/64 Scope:Link
[01:13] <tequil0018>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:13] <tequil0018>           RX packets:209787 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:13] <FloodBotK1> tequil0018: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:14] <tequil0018>           TX packets:113444 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:14] <lcb> tequil0018: you are lucky. FloodBot K1 didn't call the K9 (canine)
[01:15] <tequil0018> :)
[01:15] <NotQ> it aborts and says "an unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade: Can not mark 'kubuntu-desktop' for upgrade
[01:15] <tequil0018> i am sorry
[01:15] <tequil0018> i forget the paste...
[01:15] <tequil0018> :P
[01:15] <lcb> ubottu: pastebin
[01:16] <lcb> NotQ: are you running kubuntu for sure?
[01:16] <NotQ> haha, yes
[01:16] <lcb> NotQ: well. did you answer yes to all updates?
[01:16] <lcb> NotQ: are you running gnome or/and unity also, in that system?
[01:17] <NotQ> i think so, it only ever asked me to press enter to continue
[01:17] <NotQ> im running kde, not sure what unity is
[01:17] <lcb> NotQ: is that a virtual machine or running from windows?
[01:17] <NotQ> no
[01:17] <lcb> is that a computer?
[01:17] <NotQ> this is the only OS on the computer
[01:17] <NotQ> laptop
[01:17] <lcb> just kidding just kidding
[01:18] <lcb> ok...
[01:18] <lcb> thinking...
[01:18] <NotQ> oh linux, why do you do this to me
[01:18] <lcb> NotQ: lets see this way. do you have synaptic installed?
[01:19] <NotQ> yes
[01:19] <leumas> lcb: maybe NotQ shud just download an alternative CD and upgrade from it...
[01:19] <lcb> ok, gtreat. run it and run the "fix errors" option
[01:20] <lcb> NotQ: if you don't find it i'll open mine and tell you. it's on the second menu option, from the right
[01:20] <lcb> from the left, i mean
[01:20] <NotQ> fix broken packages?
[01:20] <lcb> yes
[01:20] <NotQ> it says Successfully fixed dependency problems
[01:21] <lcb> leumas: probably - is an option
[01:21] <lcb> NotQ: so you did have some probs
[01:21] <NotQ> i dont think so
[01:21] <NotQ> it took like one second
[01:21] <lcb> NotQ: now update the packages
[01:22] <leumas> lcb: just a candid suggestion
[01:22] <lcb> NotQ: i mean Reload. then Mark All Updates
[01:22] <lcb> and shoot it
[01:22] <lcb> leumas: all are welcomed :)
[01:23] <NotQ> ok i did that, not sure if it did anything
[01:24] <lcb> NotQ: btw, while "fixing btroken packa... if you don't get any dialog means everything is ok. didn't happen to you
[01:25] <NotQ> ya, no dialogue
[01:25] <lcb> NotQ: after "Mark All Upgrades"  yout "Apply" didn't change?
[01:25] <lcb> yout=your
[01:26] <NotQ> it didnt mark anything, does that mean i have all the updates?
[01:26] <lcb> click on "Apply"
[01:26] <NotQ> its grey
[01:26] <NotQ> cant click it
[01:26] <lcb> ok. so run away from synaptic and...
[01:27] <lcb> what i would do is: reboot and get to the grub menu (do you know how to do it?
[01:27] <lcb> the recovery menu
[01:27] <NotQ> no i have no idea how to do that
[01:28] <lcb> press SHIFT right after you see the bios messages.
[01:28] <lcb> wait
[01:28] <lcb> then select something like "*recovery kernel* then you'll get a dialog with options (wait
[01:29] <lcb> on those options you need to run CLEAN, then DPKG thgen GRUB
[01:30] <lcb> i don't run that for a while, but i believe there are no new options on it. do not run failsafeX option from there because you don't have display problems (i believe)
[01:30] <sfears> what's the error?
[01:31] <lcb> sfears: can't dist  upgrade for 11.04
[01:31] <sfears> NotQ: PM?
[01:32] <NotQ> sure
[01:32] <lcb> PM=Post Mortum? :p
[01:32] <NotQ> thats what this comp will be soon
[01:32] <lcb> hehehe
[01:33] <lcb> NotQ: in a general sense you need to fix kubuntu desktop first
[01:34] <NotQ> ya
[01:34] <NotQ> thats the trick
[01:35] <lcb> so try the recovery console as i told you. if not solving you need to sudo dpkg-reconfigure some packages
[01:36] <sfears> i don't know that i've ever had good luck with dist-upgrades
[01:36] <sfears> i usually try and then end up installing from the livecd anyway
[01:36] <lcb> there are several hard ways to resolve that. one is backing up your /home /var /etc directories
[01:36] <lcb> btw, you should do that anyway
[01:37] <lcb> after having that done you could try to reconfigure kubuntu. other option, the best one, is clean install. is that a "production system"?
[01:38] <NotQ> not really, i dont have anything important on it
[01:38] <lcb> i mean the clean install because it seems you have a major kubuntu prob in there
[01:38] <NotQ> so i could do tht
[01:38] <lcb> backup first
[01:38] <NotQ> ya
[01:38] <lcb> you know how to do that?
[01:39] <NotQ> no
[01:39] <lcb> put the hard disk in the microwave and click GO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO J/K
[01:39] <lcb> did you do it???
[01:39] <NotQ> thats what i did last time  - it didnt work
[01:39] <NotQ> haha
[01:39] <lcb> hehehe
[01:39] <lcb> ok. wait
[01:40] <lcb> download the image then run as a live cd
[01:40] <lcb> then, what i do is compress those directories and move to another partition or drive
[01:41] <lcb> got the idea?
[01:41] <NotQ> yep
[01:41] <NotQ> thats probably what ill have to do then
[01:41] <NotQ> thanks for your help guys
[01:41] <lcb> NotQ: when running as Live CD mode you'll have access to those directories. From the file manager you'll have an option to compress. just point and click
[01:42] <lcb> NotQ: i would do that if i have any problem like what you are having
[01:42] <NotQ> ok ill have to try it
[01:43] <lcb> NotQ: remember you don't even have the system "oving" while trying to upgrade
[01:43] <lcb> "moving"
[01:43] <lcb> so...
[01:43] <lcb> somethings are baddly damaged in there
[01:44] <lcb> you could check the logs, but that's the very hard way of doing it because you might need to change a lot of  things, depending the errors you have marked in the logs
[01:45] <lcb> other option is asking Linkmaster to help. he broked me two computers already
[01:46] <lcb> j/k. 3
[01:46] <NotQ> haha
[01:49] <lcb> NotQ: don't go yet. checking something with Mrs Google
[01:50] <lcb> NotQ: try this pls
[01:50] <lcb> sudo apt-get install bzr
[01:51] <lcb> then ' bzr get lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/maverick '
[01:51] <lcb> then ' cd maverick/DistUpgrade '
[01:52] <lcb> and ' sudo ./dist-upgrade '. tell me if any errors
[01:57] <lcb> NotQ: what you have might be a known bug, only affecting maverick
[02:15] <Linkmaster> I'm having difficulty getting my computer to find my printer. I've tried using CUPS, and it can't even view the printer, much less connect to it. I know the IP address, since its static, and its a MG6210 I believe
[02:22] <lcb> Linkmaster: can you ping the ip?
[02:23] <lcb> Linkmaster: '$ping printer_static_ip '
[02:23] <lcb> if not that's good
[02:24] <lcb> since you know there is a problem with that :p
[02:24] <lcb> NotQ: nothing new?
[02:25] <NotQ> not yet
[02:25] <lcb> NotQ: did you see mt last msgs? * sudo apt-get install bzr *etc*
[02:25] <NotQ> oh no, ill try that
[02:25] <lcb> do you have it?
[02:25] <lcb> not only that line...
[02:25] <lcb> want me to repeat it<?
[02:26] <NotQ> ya could you? sorry bout that
[02:26] <lcb> because what you have is a known bug when upgrading maverick to natty
[02:27] <lcb> NotQ: sudo apt-get install bzr  | bzr get lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/maverick | cd maverick/DistUpgrade | sudo ./dist-upgrade
[02:28] <lcb> do those and if resolves the matter insert the coins in the slot right behind your irc client
[02:29] <lcb> Linkmaster: wake up bro. ping your printer and tell me
[02:30] <lcb> NotQ: btw, all the steps i told you to do before are ok, didn't damage anything. they are all needed anyways and anytime
[03:28] <Notq> Back
[03:33] <SIR_Taco> Forward
[03:52] <jordan193932> i have been unable to find a word matching program for linux or windows lol
[03:52] <jordan193932> does anyone know of one?>
[03:53] <jordan193932> like _at hit enter it would find hat cat etc
[03:54] <jordan193932> i found one online
[03:55] <SIR_Taco> ?
[03:55] <SIR_Taco> a Thesaurus?
[03:56] <SIR_Taco> ah
[03:56] <SIR_Taco> I see (sorry hadn't read everything yet)
[03:58] <SIR_Taco> and he's gone... oh well
[04:30] <Linkmaster> I had to suddenly step away from my computer, but to answer lcb's question, pinging the printer was amongst the first things I thought of, and it sent/recieved them all without loss. I sent 6, 100%
[04:37] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: was the computer on fire?
[04:38] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: Well, I saw a bright flash of white and a small mushroom cloud began to form...I figured evacuating would be the safest procedure
[04:38] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: naw, that's normal... carry on
[04:38] <SIR_Taco> lol
[04:38] <Linkmaster> Ah, alright
[04:38] <Linkmaster> I should be worried when it sits quietly and behaves normally then, correct?
[04:39] <SIR_Taco> absolutely
[04:39] <SIR_Taco> that means it's plotting something
[04:39] <Linkmaster> Just making sure. When I get no problems for a span of time over an hour, I'll come get you and send dibl a message via KFN to tell him something big is about to happen
[04:39] <SIR_Taco> haha
[04:40] <Linkmaster> You know GreyGeek? He said the best way to fix all problems is to ship Kubuntu with dibl and Snowhog VI's or something in with it
[04:41] <SIR_Taco> Having said that... I have seen power supply capacitors go through the power supply housing and put a massive dent in a case :)
[04:41] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: haha
[04:41] <Linkmaster> That sounds really bad honestly, and I chuckled when I saw it as well
[04:44] <SIR_Taco> Lets just say I don't miss the tech shop and the meatheads that worked there
[04:45] <Linkmaster> xDD
[04:47] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: you happen to have an idea concerning my printer issue?
[04:47] <SIR_Taco> didn't catch your printer issue...
[04:47]  * Linkmaster goes off to copy/paste
 I'm having difficulty getting my computer to find my printer. I've tried using CUPS, and it can't even view the printer, much less connect to it. I know the IP address, since its static, and its a MG6210 I believe
[04:48] <Linkmaster> I can ping it and itll return lossless
[04:49] <SIR_Taco> what make of printer is that?
[04:49] <Linkmaster> Oh shoot, I had it and now its gone
[04:49] <Linkmaster> let me open it up on the IP real fast..
[04:50] <Linkmaster> Its a Canon MG6100 series
[04:50] <SIR_Taco> ah ok
[04:51] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: do you have drivers for it though?
[04:51] <Linkmaster> What makes me so [blank] about it is that my moms windows machine can hook up to it. Its one of two things that are holding her back from switching to Linux, and I'm going to make it work eventually...but when CUPS or Printer Configuration both can't see it, I'm sort of stuck
[04:53] <SIR_Taco> ie. does cups have drivers for it?
[04:53] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: I do, I tried mucking through it but it failed
[04:53] <Linkmaster> Uhm...I never figured out how to use CUPS, since I've never needed it before
[04:54] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: well you still 'should' not need it now... you can't add a network printer through Kubuntu's System Settings?
[04:55] <Linkmaster> I can, but I haven't been able to print or anything..let me try again though, and I'll tell you what I'm doing as I do it
[04:55] <SIR_Taco> ok
[04:56]  * Linkmaster loads up printer config
[04:57] <Linkmaster> First, let me try a test page from the attempt of earlier
[04:57] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: give me two seconds, and let me reboot (ok, maybe more than 2 seconds)
[04:58] <SIR_Taco> brb
[05:00] <SIR_Taco> ok... so... trying test page
[05:02] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: ?
[05:10] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: is the printer a network printer (has a ethernet port on the back, and is hooked to the router?), or is it hooked through a Windows machine?
[05:42] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: my mother called me away; the printer is comletely wireless. Its has a power plug in the wall, and thats it
[05:43] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: not a problem... and you said before that you could ping the printer, so there's actually a connection, yes?
[05:43] <Linkmaster> Yes, definitely a connection on my router
[05:44] <Linkmaster> I pulled up the printer[by typing its IP in the address bar] and I can configure it, so I know its broadcasting, and my mom printed something while I was upstairs
[05:46] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: ok. Do you get errors when trying to print to it?
[05:46] <Linkmaster> I think my computer believes its wired to it
[05:47] <Linkmaster> I want to clear out the entire printer thing, how do I make it so that there are no pre-configured printers anymore?
[05:47] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: that's not a bad thing really, it should behave like it's wired... do you get anything in your /var/log/cups/error_log ?
[05:47] <Linkmaster> let me open that real fast..
[05:49] <Linkmaster> E [23/Jun/2011:08:05:08 -0400] Failed to update TXT record for Lexmark_T640 @ Isadora: -2
[05:49] <Linkmaster> E [23/Jun/2011:08:05:09 -0400] Failed to update TXT record for MG6120 @ Isadora: -2
[05:49] <Linkmaster> E [23/Jun/2011:08:05:09 -0400] Failed to update TXT record for mom @ Isadora: -2
[05:49] <Linkmaster> E [23/Jun/2011:23:57:53 -0400] [Job 1] File '/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/sRGB Profile.icc' not found
[05:49] <FloodBotK1> Linkmaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:50] <SIR_Taco> hmm
[05:52] <Linkmaster> anything of use there?
[05:53] <SIR_Taco> really wish Printer Config was working in 11.10 right now haha
[05:54] <Linkmaster> Same here, else I'd use 11.10 in a heartbeat
[05:56] <SIR_Taco> is there no 6200 driver for the Canon printer?
[05:57] <Linkmaster> Let me check, though its a 6100..let me check though. and question, which option should I use? Last time I tried I used the APPsocket thingy, and I think thats wrong
[05:59] <SIR_Taco> thought you said it was  a 6210?
[05:59] <valdenor> oi
[06:02] <Linkmaster> I said I think, and according to the IP page its a Canon MG6100 series
[06:04] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: and through the printer manager, you've found the printer on the network, and selected the driver?
[06:04] <Linkmaster> Uhm, no..
[06:05] <Linkmaster> I know the IP address because its what the printer itself was set to
[06:07] <SIR_Taco> ok, and you put that in as printer location?
[06:08] <Linkmaster> well, concerning adding a new printer, I don't know which option to select, be it the AppSocket/HP JetDirect, the ipp, the LPD/LPR one, I know its not Windows hosted, and then it says 'other'
[06:09] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: there's not a "network" one?
[06:09] <SIR_Taco> what version of kubuntu?
[06:09] <Linkmaster> 11.04, rolled up from 10.10
[06:11] <Linkmaster> I'm hopefully going to be doing this from 10.04 as well, which I hope I will be able to muddle through myself if I can figure this out
[06:14] <SIR_Taco> well... you can go through the CUPS web interface... but that's a huge pain in the butt and I haven't done that in years
[06:15] <Linkmaster> CUPS doesn't see the printer
[06:16] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: that's very odd
[06:16] <Linkmaster> which is why I'm pulling out my hair over this
[06:17] <SIR_Taco> I really seem to remember there being a "network" printer option, in the printer config...
[06:18] <Linkmaster> I have the option for 'new printer' and 'new printer class' when I click on 'new printer' I got the list I gave you earlier
[06:19] <SIR_Taco> do you have "samba-common" and "smb-client" installed by chance?
[06:19] <SIR_Taco> sorry "smbclient"
[06:20] <Linkmaster> Not that I know of
[06:21] <SIR_Taco> well try in a terminal "sudo apt-get install samba-common smbclient"
[06:22] <SIR_Taco> suppose you could just do "sudo apt-get install samba"
[06:24] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: its installing
[06:26] <SIR_Taco> I'm sure the printer has all the Windows protocols in it, and none of the Unix/Linux ones... which hopefully Samba will solve
[06:27] <Linkmaster> hopefully, its done now, complaining about something in the sources list though I think I can fix it later
[06:28] <SIR_Taco> not sure if you'd have to restart KDE or not... haven't done it this way
[06:28] <Linkmaster> Should I just to be on the safe side?
[06:31] <SIR_Taco> I'd say so, yea
[06:32] <SIR_Taco> might best restart the computer, since it's network related...
[06:33] <Linkmaster> Oh fun, I hate restaring my computer...
[06:34] <SIR_Taco> Just can't think of a way to not restart and have samba work properly... I mean it might work now, but it can be iffy
[06:35] <Linkmaster> I've got some stuff running that can't really be halted..
[06:35] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: ok... well then hold on
[06:36] <SIR_Taco> are they over the network?
[06:36] <Linkmaster> We can wait till tomorrow when I'm more cognitive, and everything is done
[06:37] <SIR_Taco> ok
[06:37] <SIR_Taco> main thing is, that you should now have a network option in Printer Config... with any luck
[06:38] <Linkmaster> which I don't...I looked
[06:38] <SIR_Taco> you don't... YET.... don't be so negative lol
[06:40]  * Linkmaster is barely able to string three words together, not to mention actually think
[06:40] <SIR_Taco> I know... it's late here too
[06:40] <SIR_Taco> or maybe I should say early
[06:41] <Linkmaster> nearly 2am here
[06:41] <SIR_Taco> same
[06:41] <Linkmaster> we both should hit the hay then
[06:42] <SIR_Taco> I would if someone would quit sending me text messages... argh
[06:46] <SIR_Taco> she's not getting the "need to go to bed, leave me alone" hints... have to be a little more direct lol
[06:49] <SIR_Taco> ah, there we go... much better
[06:49] <SIR_Taco> Well, Linkmaster, I'm off to bed, let me know how the printer journey goes next time I run into you
[06:50] <Linkmaster> night SIR_Taco
[06:50] <Linkmaster> and thanks
[06:50] <SIR_Taco> night
[06:50] <SIR_Taco> np
[07:30] <kil> Hello all
[07:31] <kil> can you help me?
[07:31] <kil> me need alternative programm -> dreamweaver for linux?
[07:32] <kil> advice me pleace
[07:32] <kil> please*=)
[07:32] <kil> Hellow???
[07:33] <kil> please people..
[07:33] <kil> =((
[07:34] <jordan_> kil, dont know
[07:35] <jordan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1524582 best that i can do
[07:35] <jordan_> i dont know anything about dreamweaver
[07:37] <kil> you don't understude me? i'm bad tell english....
[07:37] <jordan_> whats your normal language?
[07:38] <kil> Russan
[07:38] <kil> russian*
[07:38] <jordan_> http://kompozer.net/  http://www.w3.org/Amaya/
[07:40] <valorie> !ru
[07:40] <valorie> kil: ^^^
[07:40] <kil> Thank you vary much =) http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ <= what you need!=)
[07:41] <jordan_> http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1524582&lp=en_ru&btnTrUrl=Translate
[07:41] <valorie> Quanta Plus might be worth looking at
[07:41] <jordan_> kil that should translate to russian
[07:41] <valorie> Dreamweaver it isn't
[07:42] <valorie> but maybe close enough for you
[07:42] <valorie> some like Kompozer as well
[07:42] <kil> jordan =)))) i understand English
[07:43] <jordan_> k??
[07:43] <valorie> some like NVU also
[07:44] <valorie> http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html
[07:45] <jordan_> i dont think you can have multiple documents open in bluefish at once
[07:46] <jordan_> thats a draw back
[07:46] <jordan_> or i never found out how to
[07:46] <jordan_> which is possible
[07:54] <LINKSWORD2> Ahhh.... I'm back! :D
[07:57] <jordan_> hey link do you use cairo dock?
[07:58] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm?
[07:59] <jordan_> by your "hmm" probably not
[07:59] <jordan_> :(
[07:59] <jordan_> ive been on cairo-dock for hours
[07:59] <jordan_> cant find any help
[08:00] <LINKSWORD2> When I use a dock, I prefer AWN.
[08:00] <jordan_> the application menu isnt working for some reason
[08:00] <jordan_> i did use daisy for a long time
[08:00] <LINKSWORD2> !google Avant Window Navigator
[08:00] <jordan_> im upgrading to a high end dock
[08:00] <LINKSWORD2> .... Damn you, ubottu. lol
[08:01] <jordan_> the last daisy update was three years ago i think
[08:01] <LINKSWORD2> AWN is pretty up-to-date.
[08:16] <valorie> bluefish features: Multiple document interface, easily opens 500+ documents (tested >10000 documents simultaneously)
[08:16] <valorie> from the website
[08:18] <LINKSWORD2> valorie: I need a dock that works on low resources...
[08:19] <LINKSWORD2> I have 1 GB of RAM. :/
[08:25] <valorie> the standard dock is too intensive?
[08:26] <LINKSWORD2> Wait, what?
[08:26] <LINKSWORD2> You mean KDE's standard?
[08:31] <valorie> right, the standard dock widget
[08:32] <LINKSWORD2> No, it's not. I'm looking for a more Mac-like dock, like AWN.
[08:32] <LINKSWORD2> Or similar.
[08:33] <valorie> not sure what awn is
[08:33] <valorie> !awn
[08:33] <LINKSWORD2> Google "Avant Window Navigator"
[08:34] <LINKSWORD2> It's cool, but too resource-intensive for my computer.
[08:38] <valorie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Application_launchers
[08:38] <LINKSWORD2> Wiki? lol
[08:47] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm....
[08:50] <LINKSWORD2> W.Bar.... Interesting.
[09:01] <wildgoose> !xfce | LINKSWORD2
[09:01] <LINKSWORD2> ... Huh?
[09:02] <wildgoose> saylucky xfce
[09:02] <LINKSWORD2> Is it better? lol
[09:03] <wildgoose> oops wrong format, it's built for lower resource use, and has a mac like dock, check it out
[09:07] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm.... Looks like I can just install it from Ubuntu, or in this case, Kubuntu...
[09:08] <LINKSWORD2> xface... lol. But it's missing the 'a'....
[09:11] <Unit193> IIRC, it used to stand for XForms Common Environment
[09:18] <noaXess> hey all
[09:19] <noaXess> strange thing: top shows rsync process with 20-30% cpu.. "System Activity" only sho rsync with 2-4% cpu.. is that normal?..
[09:19] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not sure.
[09:20] <LINKSWORD2> Let me see if I have rsync in my applications and I'll check it.
[09:20] <noaXess> LINKSWORD2: not only rsync problem.. every process...
[09:20] <noaXess> top and System Activity don't show the same result..
[09:20] <LINKSWORD2> Are they all acting like that?
[09:21] <noaXess> the cpu widget shows 0% cpu usage... so top is real.. System Activity a fake.. or doesn't get information as it should
[09:21] <LINKSWORD2> Are you using the System Monitor program to check this?
[09:22] <noaXess> LINKSWORD2: CTRL+ESC = System Activity
[09:22] <noaXess> and the widget ist CPU Monitor
[09:22] <LINKSWORD2> Oh, cool. Nice little shortcut.
[09:22] <noaXess> try now system monitor
[09:24] <LINKSWORD2> Basically the same, except the window title, and a few minor differences.
[09:24] <noaXess> in system monitor the process table says rsync uses about 4-6% and is the most used process.. in tab system lad. i see a cpu load of 60%.. overall for 4 cpu's
[09:24] <noaXess> so symstem activity/monitors process table is wrong.. or get wrong data
[09:24] <LINKSWORD2> Another consideration....
[09:24] <LINKSWORD2> Look for a graph that details the workload of each processor.
[09:29] <LINKSWORD2> I built a very basic system for Kubuntu.
[09:29] <LINKSWORD2> I expected to "experiment" and then decide that I didn't like it. lol
[09:29] <LINKSWORD2> Funny how that works. I quite like KDE & Kubuntu.
[09:31] <noaXess> LINKSWORD2: look at this.. http://i.imgur.com/Bo4G7.png
[09:32] <LINKSWORD2> Checking it ou now.
[09:32] <LINKSWORD2> out*
[09:33] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm.... Some of this, I don't understand.
[09:33] <LINKSWORD2> But let me look over it a bit more.
[09:33] <noaXess> LINKSWORD2: but you see the problem..
[09:33] <LINKSWORD2> Yeah.
[09:34] <LINKSWORD2> Click on the CPU% tab at the top and sort the apps down by their most to least CPU use.
[09:40] <LINKSWORD2> Now how does the list look?
[09:41] <LINKSWORD2> @noaXess
[09:41] <noaXess> LINKSWORD2: in system activity this is already done ;).. check my screenshot ;)
[09:42] <LINKSWORD2> Ah.
[09:42] <LINKSWORD2> Are any of them sapping more memory than others?
[09:43] <LINKSWORD2> I realize the target of this issue is CPU, so far, but memory can also be helpful to look at.
[10:03] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[10:33] <LINKSWORD2> Damn it!
[10:34] <LINKSWORD2> Google Desktop doesn't work on Kubuntu.
[10:38] <Eruaran> Who cares about Google Desktop :P
[10:40] <LINKSWORD2> Because I wanted to get notifications when I get a new GMail message....
[10:45] <Eruaran> LINKSWORD2: You dont need google desktop for that
[10:45] <lcb> goods
[10:45] <Eruaran> LINKSWORD2: just get the gmail widget from kde-look
[10:46] <LINKSWORD2> How? :/
[10:46] <kristoff> hi everybody!
[10:47] <LINKSWORD2> Groucho Marx?
[10:47] <LINKSWORD2> xD
[10:47] <kristoff> since i installed kubuntu 11.
[10:47] <kristoff> 11.04 i boot with a wrong resolution sometimes
[10:48] <kristoff> but i don't know what can cause that
[10:48] <LINKSWORD2> I've actually got the same problem. >.>
[10:49] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: right click the desktop -> add widgets -> get new widgets -> download new plasma widgets -> search for "gmail-plasmoid"
[10:50] <wildgoose> kristoff, LINKSWORD2 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261285
[10:51] <LINKSWORD2> Rekong: Not Found
[10:51] <LINKSWORD2> The requested URL /show_bug.cgi was not found on this server.
[10:51] <lcb> kristoff: reboot, press SHIFT while grub is loading (right after bios messages), select recovery kernel from the kernel options, then select failsafeX from the menu. Select then Reconfigure X for the hardware.  Try that
[10:52] <kristoff> linksword2 : try F5
[10:52] <kristoff> i'll be back lol
[10:53] <LINKSWORD2> Still getting the same error on Rekong.
[10:53] <lcb> kristoff: that will restore the default driver. then you might want to reinstall the proprietary driver.
[10:55] <LINKSWORD2> lcb, my graphics card is using the default driver. I think I need to figure out what the card is, specifically, and then install a proprietary driver.
[10:56] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: some ati are still not very happy with the proprietary. better stick with the generic on those circunstances.
[10:56] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not sure IF the card is ATI or not.
[10:57] <LINKSWORD2> Is there a way I can find out?
[10:57] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: wait, i'm diving in your pc now to check that. don't move.
[10:57] <lcb> :p
[10:58] <LINKSWORD2> Wait... What???
[10:58] <LINKSWORD2> ... How? :/
[10:58] <lcb> hehehe
[10:58] <lcb> type in terminal $ lspci
[10:58] <tsimpson> see what "lspci |grep VGA" shows, or open kinfocenter
[11:00] <LINKSWORD2> Intel ATI Radeon 9000.
[11:00] <lcb> yeap, ati
[11:00] <mu3en> can anyone tell me what is providing /usr/sbin/sendmail by default?
[11:00] <tsimpson> erm, "Intel ATI"? that's an interesting one
[11:01] <tsimpson> !find bin/sendmail
[11:01] <LINKSWORD2> Sorry. I've got 2 KInfoCenter windows open. I mixed them together.
[11:02] <LINKSWORD2> Processor: Intel P4 2.66 GHz. GFX: ATI Radeon 9000.
[11:04] <lcb> on this pc i have a ATI Technologies Inc M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500 Series] . using ATI Catalyst Control Center to tweek mora than 1 display gives some headcaches at times
[11:04] <lcb> more than...
[11:05] <LINKSWORD2> I've only got one display.
[11:05] <lcb> not working properly LINKSWORD2?
[11:06] <LINKSWORD2> When it boots up, it often says; Cannot Display Video Mode, then it readjusts and appears to work normally. But I always have to change the resolution settings.
[11:06] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: do exactly the same as i told kristoff
[11:06] <mu3en> tsimpson: thanks! the answer is postfix. surprised that is installed by default though.
[11:08] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: on the last menu you'll get you have the several options. start by selecting something like "reconfigure X for this hardware" reboot and check
[11:08] <LINKSWORD2> I'm going to need the info again.
[11:09] <lcb> you'll have several options, i mean. one is to reconfigure defaults, other the one i just said, and more.
[11:09] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: kristoff: reboot, press SHIFT while grub is loading (right after bios messages), select recovery kernel from the kernel options, then select failsafeX from the menu. Select then Reconfigure X for the hardware.  Try that
[11:09] <LINKSWORD2> OK, I'll give it a try.
[11:10] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: that thing mislead us at certain point; you'll not have a confirmation dialog or something saying the changes are comitted. just hit cancel and then select restart X
[11:11] <lcb> unless is fixed, btw. i don't use it for a while
[11:17] <lcb> on an unrelated footnote, having daisy widget as a linear dock on top in one of virtual desktops, prevents windows to maximise to the full extent. just take a note on that in case you go into that scenario. gave me a lot of trouble until finaly i discovered that.
[11:18] <lcb> *in one of virtual desktops, prevents windows to maximise to the full extent __on all desktops__
[11:20] <lcb> valorie: that was the prob from yesterday ;)
[11:27] <LINKSWORD2> -_-
[11:27] <lcb> any good?
[11:27] <LINKSWORD2> For some reason, GRUB wasn't loading.
[11:27] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: you didn't get the option to select the kernel?
[11:28] <LINKSWORD2> No.
[11:28] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: when you boot the pc you get some messages (from the pc - bios) don't you?
[11:29] <LINKSWORD2> BIOS, yes.
[11:29] <LINKSWORD2> I hold down Shift and get "GRUB loading", then after a few seconds the screen goes completely blank.
[11:30] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: right after those messages pass press SHIFT. then you shpould get the kernels
[11:30]  * LINKSWORD2 points to message above.
[11:30] <lcb> i see
[11:30] <lcb> not common
[11:31] <LINKSWORD2> I didn't figure that it was.
[11:31] <LINKSWORD2> I have another graphics card...
[11:31] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: compelitely blank but you might wonder if something is running.. or just frozen?
[11:32] <LINKSWORD2> I can't tell if it's running anything or not.
[11:32] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: sudo -i | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean apt-get check && apt-get -f install
[11:33] <LINKSWORD2> That sounds like it's going to write a clean install on the harddrive. Correct?
[11:33] <lcb> see if that helps unclutter some unneeded packages/files that might make your system slow a bit
[11:34] <lcb> no
[11:34] <lcb> there is a && missing in there... check that
[11:35] <LINKSWORD2> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:35] <LINKSWORD2> :/ OK, then what do I need to put into the terminal?
[11:35] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: you have mixed releases repositories in sources.list?
[11:35] <LINKSWORD2> How do I find out?
[11:36] <lcb> sudo -i | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean && apt-get check && apt-get -f install
[11:36] <LINKSWORD2> I think that error is there because I chose NOT to do automatic upgrades for the web browser called Opera.
[11:36] <lcb> that's the correct one (with the && inserted
[11:36] <lcb> no
[11:37] <lcb> don't believe so. try running apt-get -f install && apt-get check .... just that by now
[11:38] <LINKSWORD2> Running.
[11:38] <lcb> sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean
[11:38] <lcb> would help too, resolving that error... i believe
[11:39] <LINKSWORD2> I suppose we will see in a couple of moments.
[11:40] <lcb> then just run the first apt-get * i gave you, even repeating a bit
[11:40] <LINKSWORD2> Update manager just popped up.
[11:40] <lcb> that's a good sign. is alive now
[11:41] <LINKSWORD2> Ark, KCalc Kwallet Manager and printer-applet
[11:41] <lcb> that means your system was not updated and a bit broken
[11:41] <LINKSWORD2> OK.
[11:41] <LINKSWORD2> Would that pose the graphics problem?
[11:42] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: update whatever it's asking you for, unless you don't want to
[11:42] <LINKSWORD2> I'm going to update each of them.
[11:42] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: that makes us think you are missing some updates, meaning that would cause problems on packages in need of patches
[11:43] <LINKSWORD2> Printer one isn't really necessary, but I'll take it anyway. (I don't have a printer.)
[11:43] <lcb> yeah
[11:43] <lcb> no, don't install. afterwards you could remove what is making your system asking for that
[11:44] <lcb> why installing what we don't need. doesn't make any good in an overall performance of the machine
[11:44] <LINKSWORD2> -_- NOW you tell me!
[11:45] <lcb> it's ok, you could uninstall it with synaptics after.
[11:45] <LINKSWORD2> OK?
[11:46] <LINKSWORD2> I haven't used synaptics before.
[11:46] <lcb> is a very nice utility
[11:46] <lcb> and useful
[11:46] <lcb> Synaptic
[11:47] <LINKSWORD2> What I see from searching for "synap" is Synaptiks, a touchpad manager.
[11:47] <lcb> no, synaptic
[11:47] <lcb> !info synaptic
[11:49] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm...
[11:50] <lcb> do you get any more errors warnings?
[11:50] <LINKSWORD2> Not yet.
[11:51] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: a lot of updates though, isn't?
[11:51] <LINKSWORD2> Yeah. lol
[11:51] <lcb> i imagine
[11:51] <LINKSWORD2> Syntptic Package Manager installed - Click to execute.
[11:51] <LINKSWORD2> xD
[11:52] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: don't mixe things... keep doing what i suggested you to do before
[11:52] <lcb> mixe/mix
[11:52] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[11:52] <LINKSWORD2> It downloaded as part of the update process, apparently.
[11:53] <LINKSWORD2> I also got an alert to reboot the system.
[11:53] <LINKSWORD2> I shall return.
[11:57] <LINKSWORD2> I have returned!
[11:58] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: pls type this in terminal  $ lsb_release -r && uname -a
[12:00] <LINKSWORD2> Terminal: -r command not found.
[12:00] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: hmm $ lsb_release -d && uname -a
[12:01] <LINKSWORD2> Terminal: -d command not found
[12:01] <LINKSWORD2> It doesn't seem to like you. :P
[12:02] <LINKSWORD2> I've got an idea!
[12:02] <lcb> lsb_release (don't past it here)
[12:02] <lcb> still command not found?
[12:03] <xieyi> I met a problem that rekonq can't browse some pages properly. When I browser www.163.com, it jump to the 3g version of the page. I can browse the page properly before.
[12:03] <LINKSWORD2> No LSB modules available.
[12:04] <LINKSWORD2> lcb: Permission to query?
[12:06] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: runn the whole command i told you before to update and fix the system
[12:06] <LINKSWORD2> Hang on.
[12:06] <lcb> the big one, LINKSWORD2.
[12:06] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: wait..
[12:07] <LINKSWORD2> ?
[12:07] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: sudo -i | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get autoremove && && apt-get autoclean && apt-get clean apt-get check && apt-get -f install
[12:07] <lcb> geez, wait. error
[12:08] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: sudo -i | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get autoremove && && apt-get autoclean && apt-get clean && apt-get check && apt-get -f install
[12:09] <LINKSWORD2> Terminal: syntax error near unexpected token &&
[12:09] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: sudo -i | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get autoremove && apt-get autoclean && apt-get clean && apt-get check && apt-get -f install
[12:11] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: then reboot. then do the SHIFT to go to recovery mode. then select CLEAN, DPKG, GRUB, FailsafeX (here you select to configure X to the hardware "I" have)
[12:11] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: and you might be better. i need to run buddy
[12:11] <LINKSWORD2> root@Compaq:~# W: Failed to fetch http://deb.opera.com/opera/dists/sarge/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[12:11] <LINKSWORD2> -_- This is turning into an epic fail....
[12:12] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: sudo dpkg-reconfigure opera
[12:13] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: have in mind when you type ' $ sudo -i ' you always be as root. so type exit to perform other commands as regular user
[12:13] <lcb> $ exit
[12:14] <LINKSWORD2> Same result.
[12:14] <lcb> got it?? i need to go. real life calling my dutties
[12:15] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm....
[12:15] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: is opera your default browser?
[12:16] <lcb> well... is someone is "listening" .. pls tell him to ' $ sudo apt-get --purge remove opera ' after backing it up
[12:16]  * lcb away 
[12:18] <amichair> !info libreoffice natty
[12:19] <amichair> !info libreoffice oneiric
[12:19] <amichair> now updates to LO?
[12:19] <amichair> no updates to LO?
[12:22] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: are you using opera?
[12:22] <LINKSWORD2> No.
[12:22] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: why having it in the repositories list?
[12:22] <LINKSWORD2> I do use it as a browser.
[12:22] <LINKSWORD2> But it is not open right now.
[12:23] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: disable it from the repository list
[12:23] <LINKSWORD2> How?
[12:23] <LINKSWORD2> :/
[12:24] <LINKSWORD2> Found it. lol
[12:24] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: KPackageKit then Settings then unchek it
[12:25] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: you need to uncheck everything that conflicks with 11.04 too
[12:25] <lcb> conflicts either
[12:25] <LINKSWORD2> I haven't found any conflicts.
[12:26] <lcb> click apply, exit then the big one again
[12:27] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: do not leave any package managing utility open while running that command
[12:27] <LINKSWORD2> OK.
[12:27] <lcb> that includes synaptic
[12:27] <LINKSWORD2> Not open. lol
[12:27] <lcb> well, i know you like to multiplay with packages :p
[12:28] <LINKSWORD2> >.>
[12:28] <lcb> sometimes working in stereo could not be very soundy
[12:29] <LINKSWORD2> Quantum physics, my friend. I work in up to 26 dimensions.
[12:29] <lcb> me too, but not all rooms gives the same results
[12:30] <LINKSWORD2> Hehe. :P
[12:30] <LINKSWORD2> That's odd. I insert the commands and hit enter.... But it's not displaying any of the results.
[12:30] <lcb> ohh gosh
[12:31] <lcb> type ls
[12:31] <LINKSWORD2> And?
[12:31] <lcb> not results?
[12:31] <lcb> no results
[12:31] <LINKSWORD2> Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures.....
[12:31] <LINKSWORD2> etc.
[12:32] <lcb> sudo apt-get update
[12:32] <lcb> nothing??
[12:32] <LINKSWORD2> Apparently not. :/
[12:33] <LINKSWORD2> ... This is exceedingly bizarre.
[12:33] <lcb> type konsole
[12:34] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: type $ lsb_release -d
[12:34] <LINKSWORD2> !pastebin
[12:36] <LINKSWORD2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/631756/
[12:43] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: sorry, a bit busy. don't run it as root
[12:44] <lcb> but maybe the problem isn't only that...
[12:47] <LINKSWORD2> lcb: Are you familiar with KRDC?
[12:47] <LINKSWORD2> Welcome back, noaXess
[12:47] <noaXess> yeah
[12:48] <LINKSWORD2> @noaXess Any results with your CPU problem?
[12:48] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: didn't used it. i use TeamViewer when needed
[12:49] <LINKSWORD2> Perhaps we should use TeamViewer, then.
[12:49] <lcb> didn't use, i mean.... No, keep that one if you are familiar with it
[12:50] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not familiar with either.
[12:50] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: but why? you want me to see if your credit accounts are ok?
[12:50] <LINKSWORD2> I figured you could look into my system and see what's going on...
[12:50] <LINKSWORD2> LMAO! Credit?
[12:50] <LINKSWORD2> What a joke... >.>
[12:51] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: maybe later. not now - i'm really a bit busy now and for a couple hours.
[12:52] <lcb> MasterJoke Credit Card. a good company
[12:52] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[12:53] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: i wonder how your sources.list file is
[12:54] <lcb> like if you have installed ubuntu tweak and stuff alike, that puts a lot of stuff you don't really need in Kubuntu.
[12:54] <LINKSWORD2> Well, I think you'll have to take a look when we can open a remote connection.
[12:55] <LINKSWORD2> I haven't installed much. Only a few Mac themed components.
[13:01] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: run those commands from tty. CTRL + Alt + F1   -- return whenever you want to the graphical hitting CTRL + Alt + F7
[13:02] <lcb> kill/close  all apps before doing so
[13:02] <LINKSWORD2> I won't have access to the clipboard app, will I?
[13:03] <munny> hi all!
[13:04] <LINKSWORD2> munny: I don't think we've had our coffee yet....
[13:04] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: no.
[13:05] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: other option is logging out and login in failsafe session/mode
[13:05] <LINKSWORD2> Failsafe session mode does not work when I try to login.
[13:06] <LINKSWORD2> I suppose the other option is to re-install...
[13:06] <LINKSWORD2> Update as needed, then finally install the themes I use afterward.
[13:06] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: no. try the grub recovery. after the updates you did might work now
[13:07] <LINKSWORD2> OK
[13:07] <munny> i just upgraded to 11.04, i would use kde 4.6.4 so i added kubuntu-ppa/ppa but i don't see update with apt, anyone knows why?
[13:24] <Eruaran> munny: do 'sudo apt-get update', make sure you have latest updates 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[13:25] <munny> Eruaran: already tried...
[13:27] <Eruaran> munny: tried rebooting or logging out and back in?
[13:29] <munny> Eruaran: yes... without results... seems like apt doesn't read this lines: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu natty main
[13:30] <Ddpbf> munny: how did you add that ppa in software sources
[13:30] <Ddpbf> and wich kubuntu do you use?
[13:30] <munny> Ddpbf: i just installed from skratch 11.04...
[13:31] <munny> and first i used add-apt-repository
[13:31] <munny> after i tried insert manually lines and import key
[13:31] <LINKSWORD2> Grrr...
[13:32] <Eruaran> munny: apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[13:32] <LINKSWORD2> GRUB recovery still isn't loading.
[13:32] <munny> Eruaran: already tried...
[13:32] <munny> i'm retrying
[13:32] <Ddpbf> munny: open konsole
[13:32] <Ddpbf> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[13:33] <munny> Ddpbf: done
[13:33] <Ddpbf> than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:33] <Eruaran> yes
[13:34] <Ddpbf> you should get kde 4.6.4 in few minutes
[13:34] <munny> Ddpbf: nothing... 0 upgraded and 0 installe
[13:34] <munny> installed
[13:35] <Ddpbf> errr
[13:35] <Ddpbf> aptitude show kmail
[13:37] <munny> Ddpbf: kmail version is 4.4.10....
[13:37] <munny> Ddpbf: i tried to show kdeadmin version and is 4.6.4...
[13:38] <Ddpbf> then you have
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:38] <Ddpbf> kde 4.6.4
[13:39] <munny> Ddpbf: damn... sorry you're right... before i was in error because i also add kubuntu-updates
[13:39] <Eruaran> :P
[13:39] <munny> Eruaran: :)
[13:40] <Ddpbf> i believe it is the same
[13:40] <Ddpbf> ppa
[13:40] <Ddpbf> guys who are packagin it are all here
[13:40] <Ddpbf> :)
[13:42] <munny> Ddpbf: yes but i mean backkports for upgrade amarok... and here i read kde 4.64 but for Maverick! ;)
[13:42] <munny> 4.6.2
[13:42] <Ddpbf> aha
[13:42] <munny> Ddpbf, Eruaran: thx anyway! ;)
[13:43] <Eruaran> :)
[13:43] <munny> i'm tired... just returning from EuroPython! ;)
[13:44] <Ddpbf> munny: np :)
[13:50] <george__> Hello. Is there a way to open download folder with dolphin directly from download manager on Firefox 4 or 5?
[13:57] <jtheuer> george__:  right click on a downloaded file
[13:58] <george__> jtheuer:I did that of course. It won't open.
[14:02] <clashingwave> Hello Everyone, I have a small problem I seem to be having, I can't seem to get my 5Gz wifi connection to connect at start up but  it can auto connect to my 2.5Gz connection just fine. So can anyone help me with this small problem?
[14:39] <brad__> I have a problem getting my wireless card to work.
[14:41] <Ddpbf> brad__:  sudo lspci | grep -i network
[14:41] <Ddpbf> and sudo lshw -C network
[14:41] <Ddpbf> paste this outputs somwhere
[14:42] <Ddpbf> eg  paste.kde.org
[14:42] <brad__> Broadcom BCM4311
[14:42] <Ddpbf> or paste.ubuntu.com
[14:42] <brad__> Oh, sorry, hangon.
[14:44] <brad__> It is pasted
[14:44] <brad__> @ paste.ubuntu.com
[14:46] <genii-around> brad__: The URL of the exact paste might be helpful :)
[14:46] <brad__> Ddpbf: Sorry. it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/631803/
[14:46] <brad__> Ddpbf: I'm new to this. But I'm learning fast.
[14:51] <BluesKaj> brad__, sudo modprobe b43
[14:51] <brad__> BluesKaj: It didn't do anything.
[14:52] <brad__> BluesKaj: It just gave me back the command prompt.
[14:52] <BluesKaj> ok, it's working then
[14:52] <brad__> oh
[14:52] <brad__> BluesKaj: But if I unplug my ethernet cord, I lose internet.
[14:52] <genii-around> brad__: "no news is good news" in this case. It doesn't say anything when something happens successfully, only if there is some problem
[14:53] <brad__> BluesKaj: And WICD says there are no wireless networks found.
[14:53] <brad__> genii-around: I'll try to remember that and not panic. :-)
[14:54] <BluesKaj> wicd .. hmm, hasn't been reliable in the latest releases
[14:54] <brad__> BluesKaj: I don't know how it got on here. I was using the blue N/M looking thing, but now it's gone and WICD is running.
[14:55] <BluesKaj> brad__, with broadcom wifi should work fine with NM
[14:55] <chachan> guys, how can I set kwallet to ask when I use git commands, makes sense?
[14:55] <brad__> BluesKaj: One, that was when I found the problem, while using NM. Two, it doesn't show up in my system tray. How do I switch back to it?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> remove wicd
[14:56] <brad__> BluesKaj: You mean through apt-get?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:57] <brad__> BluesKaj: Thank you. I will be back (wired) if it doesn't work.
[14:57] <BluesKaj> and make sure NM is installed
[14:57] <brad__> BluesKaj: how do I make sure? Again, with apt-get?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> yes, or kpackagekit
[14:58] <BluesKaj> brad__,^
[14:58] <brad__> Thank you again. I will be back.
[15:07] <brad__> BluesKaj: NM is working again, WICD is gone, but even NM shows no wireless networks.
[15:07] <brad__> BluesKaj: I checked Additional Drivers, and Broadcom proprietery is active.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> ok brad__ run, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[15:09] <brad__> BluesKaj: wlan0 Interface does not support scanning
[15:10] <BluesKaj> brad__, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[15:11] <brad__> BluesKaj: wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[15:12] <brad__> BluesKaj: If it helps, my cousin put a Hardware Info Widget on my desktop, and it shows my Broadcom wireless card
[15:14] <BluesKaj> brad__, are there any optional settings on the widget ?
[15:14] <brad__> BluesKaj: Just for a shortcut. Nothing useful
[15:15] <BluesKaj> what networkmanager , check your settings
[15:15] <BluesKaj> about
[15:16] <BluesKaj> !broadcom | brad__,
[15:16] <brad__> BluesKaj: The only thing I can find is in System Settings: Information Sources: NetworkManager 0.7
[15:17] <BluesKaj> can you open nm , brad__?
[15:18] <brad__> BluesKaj: I try to right click on the system tray icon, and nothing happens. But I can Manage Networks.
[15:19] <brad__> BluesKaj: I already have my wireless essid programmed in. But it still won't show wireless networking
[15:20] <BluesKaj> brad__, check the url/tutorial I posted
[15:21] <brad__> BluesKaj: I've been reading it and reading here, too. I'll be back after I follow the website. Thanks for your help so far.
[15:27] <wildgoose> !backtrack
[15:32] <brad__> BluesKaj: I followed the instructions on the webpage, but wireless is still not showing up.
[15:33] <BluesKaj> brad__, perhaps starting from scratch ...dunno how else to help , sorry :(
[15:33] <brad__> BluesKaj: You mean reinstalling Kubuntu?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> no , with network manager settings
[15:35] <brad__> BluesKaj: I'll try that then. System Reinstall is a last resort. Thanks again for trying to help. I'll be back one way or another.
[15:35] <BluesKaj> what does , route  , output ?.. brad__
[15:35] <brad__> BluesKaj: I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean.
[15:35] <BluesKaj> type route in the terminal
[15:36] <BluesKaj> it should give you a gateway IP address
[15:38] <brad__> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/631828/
[15:41] <BluesKaj> brad__, ok ,now try it with wifi (wlan0)
[15:41] <brad__> BluesKaj: "route wlan0"?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> no just route
[15:42] <brad__> BluesKaj: It just gave me the same info.
[15:42] <brad__> BluesKaj: Nothing about wlan0
[15:43] <BluesKaj> disconnect the ethernet , then try it ...wait for about 30 secs after
[15:44] <brad__> BluesKaj: Ok, but it will disconnect me here. I'll be back on in a minute or so.
[15:44] <BluesKaj> right
[15:45] <BluesKaj> also run sudo dhclient wlan0 , brad__
[15:46] <brad__> BluesKaj: When I unplugged and did route, it didn't show anything.
[15:46] <flavz_> hello
[15:47] <BluesKaj> ok brad__ , try this command on wifi , sudo dhclient wlan0, if that doesn't connect , try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:48] <flavz_> I have a problem with the blur effect
[15:50] <flavz_> with the effect enabled every animation gets much slower
[15:50] <james147> flavz_: then disable the blur effect... not all hardware can handle that effect yet
[15:51] <brad__> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/631833/
[15:51] <brad__> BluesKaj: Still no wlan0
[15:51] <flavz_> james147:  yeah that's an option
[15:52] <flavz_> the fact is that there should be a mipmap LoD fallback option
[15:52] <BluesKaj> no connection indication on nm , brad__?
[15:52] <brad__> BluesKaj: That is correct.
[15:52] <brad__> BluesKaj: Only Ethernet cord.
[15:53] <flavz_> mipmap LoD wolud solve many problems for many people
[15:55] <BluesKaj> well, I've run out of ideas brad__ ...have you checked that the driver is actually installed , ..guess I should have asked that first from the start
[15:55] <flavz_> since that would be more efficient, and support a larger variety of hardware. Better option than saying: just don't use it.
[15:55] <james147> flavz_: not sure how they would work in a desktop enviroment when they are ment for a complex 3d world... at least from what I can see
[15:55] <BluesKaj> hey james147 , any ideas about BCM wifi not connecting ?
[15:55] <brad__> BluesKaj: Yes. The Additional Drivers program in Settings claims the Broadcom proprietary driver is installed and running.
[15:56] <brad__> BluesKaj: If I remove it, the wireless still doesn't show up.
[15:56] <flavz_> you can see it very easily: It's called Compiz, and it had support for it for ages
[15:57] <BluesKaj> proprietary driver , brad__ ...is that an optional driver, because it doesn't sound like like it's the default
[15:58] <brad__> BluesKaj: It's what installed when I followed the instructions on that webpage you gave me. Got it with firmware-b43-installer.
[15:58] <flavz_> james147:  Back in the day that option was the difference between a usable system with blur enabled and one which is not usable
[15:58] <flavz_> at least for me
[15:59] <flavz_> I'd like to know why no one seems to be interested
[15:59] <flavz_> am I really the only person affected?
[15:59] <james147> flavz_: you might want to ask at #kde ^^
[15:59] <flavz_> I'll try
[16:00] <BluesKaj> flavz_, is it a big issue ..does it really matter that much ?
[16:01] <flavz_> well I use oxygen-transparent, and that requires the blur effect
[16:01] <brad__> BluesKaj: I found a package described as network management framework in Synaptic. It claims to keep an active network connection available at all times. Should I try that to see if it kicks in the wireless?
[16:02] <flavz_> I think it looks really neat, the best looking desktop ever
[16:02] <flavz_> it's just that I can't use it, because the blur effect takes so much cpu
[16:02] <BluesKaj> dunno brad__ , it might help, I'm out of ideas
[16:03] <brad__> BluesKaj: I'll let you know. If it doesn't work, I'll do a system reinstall.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> flavz_, what kind of graphics ?
[16:03] <james147> flavz_: If i recall correctly the blur effect is one of the effects that is reciving attention to improve its preformance... though that could have been last release :)
[16:04] <flavz_> I'm running a laptop with core 2 duo 2ghz
[16:04] <BluesKaj> brad__, that shouldn't be necessary
[16:04] <flavz_> nvidia 8600m 512 mb
[16:04] <brad__> BluesKaj: It's installed now. Should I reboot to start the daemon?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> brad__, no just do , sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:05] <brad__> Ah, right.
[16:05] <flavz_> BluesKaj:  the problem is much more evident when I use an external monitor
[16:06] <BluesKaj> flavz_, is that a laptop integrated ?
[16:06] <brad__> BluesKaj: It said "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0", and wireless still isn't working.
[16:06] <flavz_> BluesKaj: Discrete graphics
[16:06] <flavz_> the main issue is that the default option is a very exacting one
[16:07] <BluesKaj> ok, flavz_ remind me not toturn blur on :)
[16:07] <flavz_> it uses gaussian
[16:07] <flavz_> there's a slighly less goog looking option that is much more efficient
[16:07] <BluesKaj> i'm runnimg a pci 8400gs card
[16:08] <flavz_> I'd like to get the attention of the developers on this issue
[16:08] <james147> flavz_: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ5Ng << looks like kde 4.7 will bring in some improvments in the area
[16:08] <flavz_> I filed a bug already
[16:09] <flavz_> james147: I'm eagerly waiting for the official release!!
[16:10] <flavz_> I'll have to see what it will be like, but unless something really "magical" happens the main issues will still be there
[16:10]  * BluesKaj tries the blur effect , but sees no diff
[16:10] <flavz_> try it with a 1920*1200 monitor plugged in for work
[16:10] <flavz_> as of now I am forced to disable the effects
[16:12] <BluesKaj> bbl
[16:13] <flavz_> but yeah, maybe I'm the only person affected by it
[16:15] <flavz_> james147:  I think you're right, I'll wait until 4.7 comes out then see if it's still worth moaning about this issue :)
[16:20] <james147> flavz_: :( looks like my netbook cannot handle the blur effect on the 4.7 beta :S
[16:20] <james147> (though it is a netbook)
[16:20] <flavz_> you see, mipmap LoD is much less resouce intensive
[16:21] <flavz_> and I mean much less
[16:21] <flavz_> Try is with Compiz
[16:21] <flavz_> That other window manager has the option to choose between different blur filters
[16:22] <flavz_> Why should netbook users be deprived of blur or transparent themes?
[16:23] <flavz_> OK, mipmap looks a bit blockier
[16:23] <flavz_> but it runs smooth as silk.
[16:24] <flavz_> I love KDE, I want it to be good for everyone, even if they are using a substandard hardware platform
[16:25] <Linkmaster> I've seen nothing wrong with it since I've been using it
[16:26] <james147> flavz_: what happens if you change to xrender instead of opengl?  (here it just disabled the blur effect ^^ )
[16:26] <flavz_> same here
[16:26] <james147> Linkmaster: what graphics card?
[16:26] <Linkmaster> james147: Thats a good question =P
[16:26] <flavz_> well of course I can run it without effects, but then it looks like metacity!
[16:26] <Linkmaster> I run a netbook, its a PCI945 family express chip set. its not even a graphics card
[16:28] <kubu2> james147: where did you get the 4.7 beta ?
[16:28] <james147> kubu2: the kde-unstable repo on arch :)
[16:28] <Linkmaster> kubu2: you can get 4.7 using project-neon for Kubuntu
[16:29] <Linkmaster> !project-neon
[16:29] <Linkmaster> ...ask them directly then #project-neon
[16:30] <kubu2> Linkmaster: thanks..RC1 should have been out but looks like kde in trouble?  missed the B2 also
[16:30] <james147> !neon
[16:30] <apachelogger> Quintasan, yofel ^
[16:31] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Shouldn't you fix that?
[16:31] <Linkmaster> kubu2: I don't think KDE is in trouble. I think that the Kubuntu devels wanted to keep the stabler version running
[16:31] <neurochrome> help!  just installed kubuntu 11.04 and I'm stuck in an endless loop at the login screen, thought I might have got the wrong passwrd so dropped to another TTY and password is fine?  what to do?
[16:32]  * Linkmaster knows that there is something on KFN about this..
[16:32] <james147> Linkmaster: his point is there has been on beta 2 or rc release of kde... not that kubuntu hasent packaged them
[16:32] <Linkmaster> I think its permission rights, do you know how to chown your .kde?
[16:32] <Linkmaster> james147: I never noticed that o:
[16:32] <Quintasan> james147: sup, if you want to give project-neon a ride add ppa:neon/ppa to your sources list
[16:32] <kubu2> Linkmaster: been waiting to show up in 11.10 :(
[16:33] <Linkmaster> Hmm...I don't know much about that. I tend to take what I'm given, and be very happy with it
[16:33] <Quintasan> kubu2: There was kinda unannounced tarball split it 4.7 and we are trying to deal with it.
[16:33] <Linkmaster> bbl, ping if you need me
[16:33] <yofel> kubu2: beta1 was a bit of a mess, rc1 packaging is WIP
[16:34] <james147> yofel: you know when rc1 is ue to release?
[16:34] <Quintasan> kubu2: oh, I see, ppa:neon/ppa <-- add that to sources list if you want to try latest KDE
[16:34] <kubu2> Quintasan: yofelthanks for the update..
[16:34] <james147> duee ^^
[16:34] <james147> :p
[16:34] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Who do I bug to fix !neon?
[16:34] <kubu2> james147: shud have been 6/23
[16:34]  * james147 knows that much ^^
[16:35] <yofel> kubu2: no idea, it was tagged only 2 days ago
[16:35] <yofel> or was that yesterday...
[16:35] <Quintasan> lol
[16:35] <yofel> I'm loosing track of time -.-
[16:35] <james147> then hopefully soon :)
[16:35] <yofel> Quintasan: bug jussi
[16:35] <kubu2> release 6/22
[16:36] <kubu2> but kde donwload for unstable is only 4.80 not 4.9 (rc1)
[16:37] <yofel> the tars are still private
[16:37] <yofel> and we're not at 4.9 yet :P
[16:37] <kubu2> oh ok
[16:37] <yofel> bbl
[16:39] <neurochrome> note: it flashes with a black screen for a couple of secs after hitting enter at the login screen with correct username and pw... then goes back to the login screen
[16:39] <james147> neurochrome: does .xsession-errors tell you anything?
[16:40] <neurochrome> james147, I'll look in a minute, just reconfiguring xserver-xorg from recovery
[16:40] <james147> neurochrome: its more likly a problem with a file in your home directory
[16:41] <neurochrome> james147, it had ubuntu 10.10 then 11.04 on before it
[16:41] <neurochrome> any usual problem files?
[16:45] <neurochrome> james147, ok, so I'm at TTY2, what do you suggest?
[16:46] <james147> neurochrome: check .xsession-errors
[16:46] <neurochrome> x-terminal-emulator FATAL IO error: client killed
[16:47] <james147> neurochrome: probally not that ^^ try stopping kdm and running "startx"
[16:48] <neurochrome> server is already active for display 0
[16:48] <james147> did you stop kdm?
[16:48] <james147> (sudo service kdm stop)
[16:48] <james147> or stop kdm... i can never remember :)
[16:51] <neurochrome> james147, stop unknown instance
[16:51] <kubu2> neurochrome: means it's not running. to be sure do sudo killall kdm
[16:52] <neurochrome> k done, now startx?
[16:52] <chachan> is there a way to set git to store password on kwallet?
[16:52] <kubu2> then sudo kdm
[16:52] <james147> kubu2: no
[16:52] <james147> neurochrome: dont restart kdm ^^ after kdm has stoped try running startx
[16:53] <neurochrome> startx is working
[16:53] <james147> kubu2: and taht is not how you are ment to start kdm ^^  "sudo start kdm"  or "sudo stop kdm"  is what you are ment to do
[16:53] <neurochrome> but how do I get the desktop to *work* everytime
[16:54] <kubu2> james147: I do that all the time
[16:54] <neurochrome> james147, what do you recommend?
[16:55] <james147> kubu2: well, you are supose to use the services not run it directly :S
[16:55] <james147> neurochrome: check you home directroy for files not owned by you
[16:56] <neurochrome> james147, ls -al reports everything owned by me
[16:58] <neurochrome> james147, gonna restart see what happens
[17:02] <neurochrome> james147, right, so still pwnd... i can login by stopping kdm and running startx
[17:07] <james147> neurochrome: try creating a new user and seeing if you can log in with them
[17:08] <neurochrome> was just about to do exactly that
[17:08] <neurochrome> I'm not the only one -- http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1610883
[17:08] <james147> neurochrome: also what version of kubuntu and kde?
[17:09] <neurochrome> 11.04
[17:09] <neurochrome> 4.6 I believe
[17:17] <notslad>  I can't seem to find Sun/Oracle Java on Kubuntu's default repositories.. do I need to install java manually, or is there a better place to look?
[17:18] <james147> !java
[17:18] <notslad> james147: thanks!
[17:19] <notslad> openjdk has always been broken for me so I avoid it like the plague :^)
[17:19] <notslad> !partner
[17:21] <neurochrome> james147, another user works fine... gonna wipe my home (nothing important in there)
[17:21] <neurochrome> cheers
[17:41] <sorush20> hi
[17:41] <sorush20> my network sharing my connection from my desktop to a router is not working. Cany anyone help
[17:41] <notslad> I've installed the sun-java6-plugin package and restarted Firefox 5 (which had been manually installed) but java still doesn't work through the browser.  Even if I mkdir a plugins directory in /usr/local/firefox50/
[17:42] <james147> notslad: logout and back in.... java dose some funky stuff with envrioment varibles
[17:43] <notslad> james147: k, I'll give that a shot.. ibb :^)
[17:47] <notslad> Manually installed firefox5 still doesn't see the apt-get installed sun-java6-plugin
[17:48] <notslad> most of the help/how-to's I've found all seem to think I should have it listed under the URL about:plugins
[17:48] <notslad> .. but it isn't there
[17:49] <notslad> I've uninstalled the openjdk stuff and the sun-java packages is the only java vm listed
[17:54] <Thinkerer68> so KFN is down again  :(
[17:59] <sorush20> I'm installing dhcpd server and using instructions here http://www.kubuntuguide.info/index.php/Natty#Internet_connection_sharing_.28DHCP_server.29,
[17:59] <sorush20> but the problem is that the configuration files that I'm supposed to edit are missing, any ideas?
[18:05] <skafti> hello
[18:05] <skafti> someone who can help with java problem
[18:08] <james147> skafti: not if you dont say what the problem is
[18:09] <skafti> :) cantseem toget up java for firefox installed it but it does not show up in plugins
[18:19] <pidusd> I had been using wireless broadband without any problem using network manager in kubuntu 10.10 but since I upgraded to 11.04 (though not immediately afterwards) it stopped working. Now it tries to connect and then gives up.
[18:20] <pidusd> Surprisingly its working fine on windows through virtualbox
[18:24] <pidusd> the syslog reads http://pastebin.com/uX43yBKN
[18:24] <supitux> Hello everyone, i got a partitioning problem in livecd modus: when changing the size of the extendet partition (magnification), kde partition manager fails  due to setting the geometry of the partition
[18:24] <pidusd> does anybody have any clue about how to fix this?
[18:32] <Torch> supitux: what error message does it fail with?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> pidusd, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[18:33] <sithlord48> why is the forum always down when im bored ?
[18:34] <supitux> http://pastebin.com/CdHsZ9yV
[18:35] <supitux> Torch:maybe i switch language to german
[18:35] <supitux> Torch:maybe i switch language to englisch
[18:35] <Torch> supitux: i can read that
[18:36] <Torch> supitux: but i can't tell why it's not working from this.
[18:36] <supitux> Torch: everthing is removed saftly
[18:37] <supitux> Torch: last time i changed size, it was no problem
[18:37] <Torch> supitux: i can see that libparted does not want to set the new geometry, but i have no idea why that would happen
[18:38] <supitux> Torch: livecd is broken?
[18:38] <Torch> supitux: no
[18:39] <supitux> Torch: its a f*ck that (k)ubuntu disturbes the partition table during install
[18:40] <Torch> supitux: it does that only if you ask it to, iirc.
[18:41] <supitux> no i set up the partition file right
[18:41] <supitux> ext. partition should be: 2 ntfs + swap +2 ext4 + free space
[18:41] <supitux> but it tossed the free space at the end out of the ext so i cant magnify my ntfs partitions
[18:42] <supitux> so i should delete the ubuntu partitions for the ntfs
[18:42] <supitux> if i cant allocate free space in the ext partition
[18:45] <supitux> Torch: perhaps a restart could help-.-
[18:49] <blip-> hi, I found this post on the ubuntu forums which talks about installing latest Nvidia driver for 10.10, the PPA gives 404 Error. Also I have 11.04, how can I get PPA for 11.04 nvidia drivers ?
[18:49] <blip-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1726575&page=2
[18:50] <exalt> my natty setup with KDE is so incredible slow anyone knows whats wrong ? sys specs:  http://pastebin.com/kA6k6LtB  , log: http://pastebin.com/J6xPdQtf
[18:57] <roadfish> how do I change KDE background from command-line?
[20:02] <kuwo48> Hallo an alle
[21:22] <lcb> good AM|PM for everybody
[21:22] <Linkmaster> eya lcb
[21:23] <lcb> hi Linkmaster. did you discover where your printer is?
[21:24] <Linkmaster> nope, never did. I was waiting for SIR_Taco to come back, but he hasn't that I can see
[21:24] <lcb> can you ping it?
[21:25] <lcb> check if the router/port is open
[21:25] <Linkmaster> Yep, I tried telling you last time but you were gone xD
[21:25] <Linkmaster> Pinging it was the first thing I did
[21:25] <lcb> ohh
[21:28] <lcb> Linkmaster: you are going to try the hard way (hand typing some sommands) but let me finish something here at home.
[21:29] <Linkmaster> I see nothing wrong with typing up commands :P and its all good
[21:29] <lcb> Linkmaster: i don't want to damage ur nails, that's why :o
[21:30] <lcb> hang on, brb
[21:30] <Linkmaster> Damage my nails? I think it'd be your pride that'd be damaged first
[21:46] <Linkmaster> how do you build items with git? I can't find a little 'howto' on the internet
[21:48] <Unit193> Linkmaster: It all depends on what you download. There should be a readme
[21:48] <Linkmaster> So git is simply a place to get source?
[21:49] <Unit193> Yep!
[21:49] <Unit193> Source hosting
[21:50] <Linkmaster> I always heard people "building from git" but never figured out what they meant
[21:55] <ovidius> hi. i have added firefox to the window list plsmoid, such that a starter should be shown, if firefox is not running. unfortunately, it only shows a blank space in the list not the firefox icon and the "show starter when not running"-option works every other program  I tried. any ideas?
[22:04] <lloowen_> Hi all! Does anyone know how I can disable the grub menu or at least get the timer to work so it boots up the default? When I start up my pc nothing happens, it just waits for me to select an option from the list. Using kubuntu 10.10
[22:04] <Linkmaster> Oh I remember, it has something to do with grub.d I believe, let me pull up mine real fast to tell you how to do it
[22:05] <Linkmaster> lloowen_: you're asking to make it boot straight into Kubuntu, right?
[22:05] <lloowen_> Linkmaster: Yes
[22:09] <Linkmaster> lloowen_: I found it, sorry for my delay
[22:09] <lloowen_> Linkmaster: No problem.
[22:11] <Linkmaster> open up a terminal, and type in 'kdesudo kate /etc/default/grub' and when it loads up, go to the line where it says 'grub timeout' and you can turn that to '0' so that grub will be 'bypassed'
[22:12] <Linkmaster> once you do that, save the file, and close it out. then run 'update-grub' to make sure it configures correctly
[22:12] <Linkmaster> lloowen_: ^
[22:12] <lloowen_> Linkmaster: OK I'll give that a try right now. Thanks
[22:12] <Linkmaster> You're quite welcoem
[22:13] <Linkmaster> I recall a slightly better way to boot straight into something, but that is the most effective I can think of at the time
[22:19] <lloowen_> Linkmaster: No that did not work :( It just goes to the grub menu. Thanks anyway.
[22:19] <Linkmaster> that should make the grub timeout zero...why wouldn't it work...
[22:20] <lloowen_> Linkmaster: I'll re-try
[22:21] <Linkmaster> BluesKaj: ping
[22:22] <BluesKaj> Linkmaster, pong
[22:23] <Linkmaster> lloowen_: here wants to boot straight to kubuntu, and I forgot how, so I made his grub have a '0' as the timeout. He says it doesn't work. What is the correct way to do it?
[22:35] <buzzmandt> anyone here?
[22:37] <Linkmaster> I'm here
[22:39] <buzzmandt> hey
[22:40] <buzzmandt> found blueprints on launchpad, what is kubuntu-members and kubuntu-ninja?
[22:42] <buzzmandt> also I know muon is happening but has it been officially decided to keep it as default or is that still a question on the table?
[22:44] <Linkmaster> Not sure, not sure, annd....not sure :P
[22:51] <lcb> Linkmaster: do you have any linux drivers for that printer? |any| (canon MG6210 )
[22:52] <Linkmaster> Its a canon MG6100 series printer, and in a way. I have the installation CD that it came with, and I tried digging through it to no avail
[22:53] <lcb> ohhh... changed model since last night :o how did you do that??? i want too
[22:53] <lcb> Linkmaster: any RPM with it?
[22:53] <lcb> or .deb, of course
[22:53] <Linkmaster> huhh..?
[22:54] <DoctorPepper> hi guys!!!
[22:54] <Linkmaster> Of course not, its a printer thats main computer is supposed to be Winblows
[22:54] <lcb> the linux driver, Linkmaster
[22:54] <szal> there's no MG models listed in the OpenPrinting Database
[22:54] <lcb> hi Doc
[22:54] <lcb> szal: but if he finds any RPM it will be pok
[22:54] <Linkmaster> I've tried what I could think of. When even CUPS can't see it, I know theres a problem
[22:54] <lcb> pok/ok
[22:55] <DoctorPepper> has anyone managed to sync kontact with ms-exchange ?
[22:55] <szal> Linkmaster: that's the problem w/ GDI printers
[22:55] <Linkmaster> GDI?
[22:56] <szal> essentially: the OS does the thinking, and mostly that is only implemented in Windows drivers
[22:56] <Linkmaster> yep
[22:56] <lcb> there are some linux drivers in canon support, most packaged as *.i386.rpm
[22:56] <lcb> if you find one for that printer it wil be ok
[22:57]  * szal tries to avoid buying any printer other than HP
[22:57] <Linkmaster> this is my printer: http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Canon/Canon-PIXMA-MG6100
[23:00] <Linkmaster> lcb: the canon site only offers windows drivers, and a few mac OS X drivers
[23:00] <Linkmaster> It has Windows support all the way to 98, but they can't make a single one for linux....
[23:00]  * Linkmaster profusely swears
[23:02] <lcb> Linkmaster: talking w/ google's daughter. wait pls
[23:02] <Linkmaster> Its fine, thanks for the help
[23:03] <szal> Linkmaster: http://www.canon-europe.com/Support/System/Search.aspx?TcmUri=tcm:13-822910&SearchType=3
[23:04] <lcb> Linkmaster: http://pdisp01.c-wss.com/gdl/WWUFORedirectTarget.do?id=MDEwMDAwMzAxODAx&cmp=ABS&lang=EN
[23:05] <Linkmaster> lcb: way to make me download a file without telling me :P if this windows, you could have just infected my computer....mwahahah
[23:05] <lcb> nah
[23:05] <Linkmaster> Alright, downloaded it, want me to run the installation stuff?
[23:06] <Linkmaster> This looks like the same thing that szal just sent me
[23:06] <lcb> Linkmaster: if i want to give you a virus i'll store it in my server and you download it from there, with extra features :p
[23:06] <Linkmaster> :D
[23:06] <Linkmaster> of course, the worst your virus would be able to do is trash my /home which isn't the biggest deal in the world..
[23:06] <lcb> Linkmaster: download both and check the updated one
[23:07] <szal> you could also md5sum them, if the sums match, it's the same thing
[23:07] <Linkmaster> how do I know which one is newer?
[23:07] <lcb> do you know how to sum Linkmaster?
[23:07] <lcb> hehehe
[23:07]  * Linkmaster doesn't know how to md5sum things....
[23:08] <Linkmaster> alright, the other finished
[23:09] <Linkmaster> szal: lcb: how do I md5sum things?
[23:09] <lcb> both are for reliable sources, don worry
[23:09] <lcb> 't
[23:09] <Linkmaster> It would still help to learn how to
[23:09] <szal> Linkmaster: wouldn't work in that case anyway due to different formats
[23:09] <Linkmaster> oh, alright
[23:10] <szal> Linkmaster: and lcb's thing seems the way to go, since it's a .deb
[23:10] <lcb> Linkmaster: open it and check the dates from the files / or the readme file, for instance.
[23:11] <Linkmaster> Ohh, okay. And lcb where did your file download? ark opened it up when I clicked the link, and I'm not about to extract it
[23:11] <lcb> i didn't download it so i don't know what's in there. but you could check it
[23:11] <Linkmaster> it looks good to me
[23:11] <lcb> Linkmaster: wait.. talking with that google girl again
[23:11] <Linkmaster> let me copy the link instead and download that way
[23:12] <lcb> Linkmaster: i went to australia to get your file -> http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0100301802.html
[23:12] <szal> just checked, they're identical
[23:12] <Linkmaster> I understand now...I think Windows told english canon to make sure nothing linuxy was on there
[23:12] <szal> both dated 19 Aug 2010
[23:13] <Linkmaster> But in my case I wasn't worried about the source, I want to know where it downloaded to....:P
[23:13] <lcb> Linkmaster: they were thinking about you installing win drives in linux
[23:13] <Linkmaster> because its not in ~/Downloads
[23:13] <lcb> it's possible tough...
[23:13] <Linkmaster> I'd rather not use windows drivers....
[23:15] <Linkmaster> whereis didn't find it anywhere. I'll extract it to a folder I know of, since its a..... .deb.tar.gz? Thats a lot of compression xD
[23:15] <lcb> drivers, i mean... long ago. sorry for the Typos & Errors, Inc
[23:15] <szal> dunno why it's called "deb" anyway, there's no .deb in it
[23:15] <szal> it's just an install script
[23:15] <BluesKaj> Linkmaster, I believe the" hidden timeout' in /etc/default/grub should be "0"
[23:15] <Linkmaster> theres .debs in mine
[23:15] <lcb> no infos in it?
[23:16] <Linkmaster> BluesKaj: I asked him to change the regular timout
[23:16] <Linkmaster> *timeout
[23:16] <BluesKaj> yeah, I saw that
[23:16] <BluesKaj> I boot directly to kubuntu with that setting
[23:17] <Linkmaster> Thats why I'm confused it didn't work for him
[23:17] <szal> Linkmaster: ah, indeed, there's .debs inside, so scrap the install script & install the 2 .debs appropriate for your architecture
[23:17] <Linkmaster> I just cd'd my way into the folder
[23:18]  * Linkmaster forgot how to install .deb from terminal
[23:18] <Unit193> dpkg -i
[23:18] <Linkmaster> I knew it had to do dpkg, my gut told me that...gotta listen to it more often from now on
[23:18] <szal> sudo dpkg -i $insert_filenames_here
[23:19] <lcb> wait... probably you need some libs before... let me check
[23:19] <szal> guess dpkg will complain if anything is missing
[23:20] <Linkmaster> hopefully will. Oh well, its starting to run, lets see what happens
[23:20] <Linkmaster> That was fast, I chose the wrong .deb to install first xD
[23:20] <szal> lol
[23:21] <Linkmaster> that was fast...let me get the other one now
[23:21] <lcb> Linkmaster: you don't need to gkpg -i etc, you have a .sh installation file
[23:21] <Linkmaster> both went without any issues...is that all I have to do? o:
[23:21] <Unit193> You may need to sudo apt-get install -f
[23:21] <lcb> err dpkg -i ...
[23:21] <Linkmaster> Both are installed
[23:22] <Linkmaster> and lcb I thought .sh files were for compiling and stuff, so I sort of skipped it...
[23:22] <Unit193> sudo apt-get install -f isn't needed this time, it fixes missing depends
[23:23] <Linkmaster> alright, well, now that I have these drivers installed, what is my next step?
[23:23] <lcb> there is a install.sh .... just chmod +x install.sh
[23:23] <lcb> then ./install.sh
[23:23] <Linkmaster> okay, let me uninstall the other things
[23:23] <szal> Linkmaster: I wonder what the .sh is for anyway, I don't think you need it
[23:23] <Linkmaster> to prevent errors
[23:23] <lcb> szal: because there are several .deb packages to install
[23:23] <Linkmaster> two for i386, two for AMD686
[23:23] <lcb> .. and they need to be installed in a certain order/way
[23:24] <Linkmaster> yeah, -common first, then the other
[23:24] <Linkmaster> I installed both already
[23:24] <lcb> no smoking yet from the printer? :o
[23:24] <szal> afaics, the install.sh sets up the printer and printer queue
[23:24] <Linkmaster> I would've heard my mom/sisters screaming
[23:24] <lcb> hi Unit193 ;)
[23:25] <Linkmaster> ah, so I still need to run the install.sh, let me do that real fast
[23:25] <Unit193> lcb: Howdy
[23:25] <lcb> not fast...
[23:25] <lcb> Linkmaster: take your time or you might do something wrong
[23:26] <Linkmaster> well, slow
[23:26]  * Linkmaster types bash instal.sh
[23:26]  * Linkmaster then facepalms
[23:26]  * Linkmaster is glad he didn't actually miss the 'l'
[23:26] <szal> Linkmaster: PEBKAC ;)
[23:27] <Linkmaster> ?
[23:27] <szal> Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair
[23:27] <Linkmaster> xD!
[23:27] <lcb> then try going into your printer control panel configurations just to check if you can see it right, like, for instance http://yourLogin_name:YourPass@192.168.1.200
[23:29] <lcb> szal: my english is not very good but on top of everything i make a lot of types because of "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair" too. usually i'm sitted like an indian, away from the kb, + doing more things at same time.
[23:29] <lcb> types/typos lol
[23:34] <Linkmaster> lcb: szal: thanks for the help guys!! I'm going to keep this in my archive of "keep at ALL times" files :D
[23:35] <lcb> Linkmaster: thank google
[23:36] <Linkmaster> Thank google for me then, since I didn't use it. I never found something like that though even with my searching
[23:37] <lcb> Linkmaster: if not working, read this, last lines (disregard the rpm to deb sections and the names of files for that model) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-a-canon-all-in-one-printer-working-with-ubuntu.html
[23:37] <lcb> maybe you need to install more than just that. but just in case your printer don't... print
[23:37] <Linkmaster> I shall look! :D
[23:38] <Linkmaster> I needed to know how to do this if I was going to 'help' my mom switch to linux
[23:38] <lcb> Linkmaster: you should be her sys administrator
[23:38] <Linkmaster> I'm going to be
[23:38] <Linkmaster> I am probably going to take her off the sudoers list as well
[23:39] <lcb> so no need to teach her that
[23:39] <Linkmaster> Key words: 'I needed to know..."
[23:39] <Linkmaster> And for while I'm at school, I'll get that one program I forgot what was, the desktop sharer thing, to work properly as well
[23:41] <lcb> teamviewer is good...
[23:41] <Linkmaster> will it allow me to take control of her computer?
[23:41] <lcb> or... play a bit with EyeOS... it's funny to have a remote desktop + somehow an operating system trough the net.
[23:46] <DoctorPepper> has anyone managed to sync kontact with ms-exchange ?
[23:49] <Linkmaster> next step is to see if I can get xsane to work with the printer..that shouldn't be too hard
[23:52] <lcb> DoctorPepper: not me but http://goo.gl/kZmn3
[23:52] <DarkwingDuck> DoctorPepper: Here is a path forward... Never tried it though. http://askubuntu.com/questions/22977/can-i-connect-to-my-companys-exchange-server-through-kontact
[23:54] <lcb> any good phone answering system for 11.04 server? just in case someone knows...
[23:56] <petete> asterisk can do that. i think
[23:56] <lcb> tiago!!! welcome portuguese guy :)
[23:56] <lcb> petete, thanks :)
[23:57] <lcb> a delayed one...
[23:57] <DoctorPepper> thanks lcb DarkwingDuck .
[23:57] <lcb> DoctorPepper: there are some solutions from that search + whay DarkwingDuck gave you too
[23:57] <lcb> whay/what
[23:58] <DoctorPepper> thanks a lot guys .
[23:58] <DarkwingDuck> :) Anytime DoctorPepper