[00:04] <securityxxxpert> Hey guys
[00:05] <securityxxxpert> How's Gnome 3 holding out on 11.10?
[00:19] <IdleOne> it doesn't for me
[00:19] <IdleOne> Unity seems to be working fine though
[00:24] <securityxxxpert> IdleOne:  What do you think of Unity?
[00:24] <IdleOne> taking me time to get used to it but I am starting to like it more
[00:25] <IdleOne> matter of being open to doing things a little differently
[00:26] <Somelauw> is unity suitable for mouseless working?
[00:27] <securityxxxpert> IdleOne:  Yeah I haven't been able to try it yet, I want to try it in virtual box
[00:29] <IdleOne> Somelauw: if you mean using keyboard shortcuts, yes.
[00:29] <Somelauw> i mean completely controlled by keyboard shortcuts
[00:34] <IdleOne> pretty much I believe you can
[00:35] <IdleOne> Don't know why you would want to
[01:15] <cgroza> hello, how do I update to Oneiric via update manaer or apt?
[01:15] <cgroza> I am running Natty
[01:17] <cgroza> anyone?
[01:19] <yofel> cgroza: run 'gksu update-manager -d'
[01:19] <charlie-tca> cgroza: normally starting with the release notes at
[01:19] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview
[01:22] <cgroza> yofel: thanks.
[01:22] <yofel> do read the release notes though like charlie-tca said
[01:23] <cgroza> ok, thanks yor the tip
[01:23] <xiljin> cgroza: are you upgrading now?
[13:39] <Ian_Corne> nvidia is back! :d
[13:39] <Ian_Corne> and i'm back to unity
[13:47]  * genii-around sips
[13:54] <genii-around> I'm getting segfaults when it tries to process nspluginwrapper :(
[15:28] <BluesKaj> howdy , how's the new 3.0-1 kernel behaving with the nvidia graphics drivers ?
[15:29] <Ian_Corne> good
[15:29] <Ian_Corne> it works on my laptop
[15:29] <Ian_Corne> and  normal unity runs again :)
[15:29] <BluesKaj> \desktop effects ok ?
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> yes
[15:30] <BluesKaj> <<kde
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> I'm on unity tho
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> i know :)
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> don't have kde installed
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> yofel: probably know
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> +s
[15:31] <yofel> on my Quadro NVS 3100M fine
[15:31] <BluesKaj> yeah Ian_Corne , thanks for the info..it's a good sign :)
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ok yofel ...good
[15:32] <BluesKaj> 8400gs here ...not a fancy one but good for my needs
[15:37]  * BluesKaj is tempted to try again ...my other linuxbox with 7600gt  seems fine so far
[15:37] <BluesKaj> on "O"
[15:56] <BUGabundo> allow me some offtopic manober here , why can't I get NSF to properly map my user?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> NFS ?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, ^
[16:01] <BUGabundo> yeah
[16:12] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, did rerun , mount --bind /home/users /export/users   ?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> bbl
[16:12] <BUGabundo> /home/users ?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, /home/yourusername
[16:40] <BUGabundo> ahh
[16:40] <BUGabundo> but wait... won't that "move" my home to my nfs share?
[16:40] <BUGabundo> or am I reading that wrong BluesKaj ?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> yes it will
[16:41] <BluesKaj> substute whatever share path
[16:41] <BUGabundo> I just want to access my NAS shares, with RW for my user
[16:41] <BUGabundo> and I can't find a way to remap it properly
[16:41] <BluesKaj> I'm talking from the client side
[16:42] <BUGabundo> me too
[16:42] <BUGabundo> lets start over
[16:42] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, I have a good tutorial , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[16:42] <BUGabundo> /volume1/video	*(rw,async,no_wdelay,root_squash,insecure_locks,anonuid=1024,anongid=100)
[16:42] <BUGabundo> this is the exports on the nas
[16:42] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: I've read that 200 times
[16:43] <BUGabundo> :(
[16:43] <BluesKaj> hehe
[16:43] <BUGabundo> I'm just dumb I guess
[16:43] <BUGabundo> this is my fstab
[16:43] <BUGabundo> nas:/volume1/video	/mnt/NAS/video		nfs rw,users,auto	0 0
[16:43] <BUGabundo> mount
[16:43] <BluesKaj> oh nas , didn't realize , that's a little different I think
[16:43] <BUGabundo> nas:/volume1/video on /mnt/NAS/video type nfs (rw,users,addr=192.168.10.7)
[16:43] <BUGabundo> drwxr-xr-x 8      1026     65536 4.0K 2011-06-23 01:06 video/
[16:43] <BUGabundo> and the mount point
[16:44] <BUGabundo> see the numeric is diff
[16:44] <BUGabundo> so my user can't RW it
[16:44] <BUGabundo> I need to remap NFS UIDs/GUIDs
[16:46] <BluesKaj> check the fstabs ?
[16:46] <BUGabundo> (06/24/2011 04:43:24 PM) freenode: nas:/volume1/video	/mnt/NAS/video		nfs rw,users,auto	0 0
[16:51] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, so you don't autmount , you just run mnt ?
[16:51] <BUGabundo> correct
[16:52] <BUGabundo> its on boot
[16:53] <BUGabundo> maybe I need to take a better look at portmapper
[16:55] <BluesKaj> much more exacting than my setup..I just automount my /home/user file on the other linuxbox , so I can access files and media in the den if we have conflict over media
[16:56] <BUGabundo> I guess ill give up
[16:56] <BUGabundo> and go CIFS :(
[16:58] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, for example :192.168.1.65:/   /mnt   nfs4    auto  0  0
[16:58] <BluesKaj> that's the client fstab
[16:58] <BUGabundo> sure
[16:58] <BUGabundo> that's what I have
[16:59] <BUGabundo> now ls -ln your /mnt
[16:59] <BUGabundo> what are the UIDs?
[16:59] <BluesKaj>  /home/kaj    /export/users   none    bind  0  0 ..server
[16:59] <BUGabundo> do they match the ones on the server?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> not really the server just mounts the share
[17:00] <BUGabundo> RW?
[17:01] <BluesKaj> yeah
[17:01] <BUGabundo> whats your exports ?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> export/users/home/kaj is the actuall server n mount path on my setup
[17:07] <BluesKaj> err server mount path
[17:08] <BluesKaj> I ssh'd into the denlinuxbox to set the client up there...lazy :)
[17:10] <BUGabundo> I want the server there, not client :S
[17:11] <BluesKaj> export/users/home/kaj is the server mount path
[17:21] <BUGabundo> ah
[17:29] <dsathe> http://dsathe.blogspot.com/2011/06/auto-background-changer-for-gnome-3-gui.html
[19:45] <BluesKaj> kde-window-manager, plasma-widgets-workspace, libtaskmanager4abi1, plasma-dataengines-workspace, plasma-desktop, kdm, libplasmagenericshell4 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:45] <BluesKaj> not good :(
[19:48] <BluesKaj> and the kernel didn't upgrade 2.6.38-8-generic
[19:56] <BluesKaj> is the above a known issue ?
[19:57] <BUGabundo> sorry, no backlog
[19:57] <BUGabundo> crashed
[19:57] <BUGabundo> what is it BluesKaj?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> kde-window-manager, plasma-widgets-workspace, libtaskmanager4abi1, plasma-dataengines-workspace, plasma-desktop, kdm, libplasmagenericshell4 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:57] <BUGabundo> kde stuff
[19:57] <BUGabundo> :)
[19:58] <BluesKaj> yeah, so ?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> yofel, ?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> the kernel should have upgraded , or is there a regression ?
[19:59] <yofel> what dependency errors? I don't have any.
[19:59] <yofel> ah wait, were you using 4.6.4 in natty?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> no.4.6..2
[19:59] <BluesKaj> for some reason
[20:00] <yofel> hm, shouldn't break then...
[20:00] <yofel> got the full error?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> I had to reinstall natty the other day
[20:00] <BluesKaj> hang on
[20:02] <BluesKaj> yofel, http://pastebin.com/FJqp1qfg
[20:03] <yofel> what does -f try to do?
[20:06] <BluesKaj> it just , gives the broken packages error http://pastebin.com/M0vmuMmT
[20:06] <yofel> well, problem found
[20:06] <yofel>  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libpowerdevilcore.so.0.1.0', which is also in package libpowerdevilcore0 4:4.6.2a-0ubuntu5.1
[20:07] <yofel> sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends libpowerdevilcore0
[20:07] <yofel> after that try install -f again
[20:07]  * yofel goes fixing
[20:09] <BluesKaj> ok thanks yofel , looks promising so far
[20:10] <yofel> ah, already fixed in bzr, just not uploaded
[20:10] <yofel> lp 791560
[20:42] <BUGabundo> so we dropped Synaptic
[20:42] <BUGabundo> sadface
[20:44] <BluesKaj> ok the dependencies are solved now , but it seems the desktop effects are still enabled but not in effect..suppose I should have expected that
[20:46] <yofel> they do work for me
[20:47] <BluesKaj> yofel, which kde are you on?
[20:47] <yofel> 4.6.3
[20:47] <BluesKaj> same
[20:47] <yofel> that's all we have in oneiric
[20:48] <yofel> try to enable the effects and then check .xsession-errors if kwin has any complaints
[20:48] <BluesKaj> ok, thought it might be up to 4.6.4
[20:49] <BluesKaj> they show enabled , but I get a dialog saying that kwin turned off several effects like cube animation when I re-enabled
[20:57] <BluesKaj> abd of course additional drivers still has the message that nvidia-current is the recommended driver but not currently in use , but "apt-cache policy nvidia-current" says it is installed
[20:58] <yofel> does xorg.log say it's being used?
[21:04] <BluesKaj> QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread (Parent is Solid::Backends::UDisks::UDisksDevice(0x24ae7d0), parent's thread is QThread(0x20709d0), current thread is ThreadWeaver::Thread(0x254bc50)
[21:04] <BluesKaj> xsession
[21:07] <yofel> hm, no, that's solid
[21:07] <yofel> open kdebugdialog and check if kwin debugging output is on
[21:13] <BluesKaj> yofel, where to look ?
[21:13] <yofel> the debugging output should go to .xsession-errors
[21:14] <yofel> a lot is off by default
[21:14] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:17] <BluesKaj> kwin(1621): OpenGL Software Rasterizer detected. Falling back to XRender
[21:17] <BluesKaj> is one
[21:18] <yofel> direct rendering doesn't work
[21:18] <BluesKaj> kwin(1621): Failed to initialize compositing, compositing disabled
[21:18] <yofel> and Xorg.0.log really doesn't have an error?
[21:19] <BluesKaj> was just looking there, hang on
[21:25] <BluesKaj> a hint as to what I'm looking for ..I don't see the driver loading ..
[21:30] <BluesKaj> nvidia xserver settings says the current driver is 275.09.07
[21:50] <BluesKaj> ok yofel , success ..reinstalled nvidia-current at the tty as suggeste in Xorg.0.log ..all seems well now , thanks again :)
[21:50] <yofel> :)
[22:03] <coz_> hey all
[22:21] <Ian_Corne> Hello
[22:22] <BUGabundo> Ian_Corne: hi http://twitter.com/BUGabundo/status/84370480420749312
[22:23] <Ian_Corne> hi
[22:23] <Ian_Corne> random twitter post? :p
[22:23] <BUGabundo> :)
[22:24] <BluesKaj> twitter...bah humbug!
[22:24] <Ian_Corne> BUGabundo: monday i should be getting my SGSII
[22:24] <Ian_Corne> :D
[22:24] <BUGabundo> YA
[22:24] <BUGabundo> YAY
[22:25] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: my client doesn't make StatusNet links :(
[22:27] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, was just funnin' ... StatusNet links ...have a fuzzy idea what that might be but......
[22:27] <BUGabundo> ehe
[22:27] <BUGabundo> identi.ca ?
[22:29] <BluesKaj> visited there once ... a buddy suggested identi but facebook is enuff for me :)
[22:30] <BUGabundo> add me then
[22:30] <BluesKaj> it's mostly family
[22:31] <BUGabundo> and what are WE ??
[22:31] <BluesKaj> acquaintences :)
[22:31] <BUGabundo> bah
[22:32] <BluesKaj> show me yours , I'll show you mine ...maybe
[22:32] <BluesKaj> ok, news is on BBL
[22:32] <Ian_Corne> haha
[22:32] <BUGabundo> fb.com/BUGabundo ?