[00:07] <loopdigga> anyone here?
[00:08] <pleia2> !ask
[00:08] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[00:08] <pleia2> or not :\
[00:09] <coalwater> lol
[00:09] <coalwater> happens usually
[00:09] <seidos> hmmm, maybe that was his question o_o
[00:10] <coalwater> maybe he didn't find poor ubot2 friendly
[00:11]  * coalwater hugs ubot2 
[00:11] <seidos> !greet
[00:11] <ubot2> Factoid 'greet' not found
[00:11] <seidos> :P
[00:14] <coalwater> !UBT
[00:14] <ubot2> Factoid 'UBT' not found
[00:14] <coalwater> lol
[01:50] <philipballew> has Ubuntu  devs released 2.6.38-10 yet?
[01:51] <holstein> 2.6.39.2 is the latest stable i see at kernel.org
[01:53] <philipballew> yeah. whats the current ubuntu kernel for most people? uname -r shows 2.6.38-8 for me
[01:53] <holstein> 2.6.32-32 for me :)
[01:54] <philipballew> 10.04 i see?
[01:54] <holstein> yup
[01:54] <philipballew> nice. i see that my system has a -1o kernal version. but all grub shows is -8. its odd
[01:54] <philipballew> *10
[01:55] <philipballew> what makes you stick with lts?
[01:55] <holstein> stability mostly
[01:55] <holstein> nothing i need in the new stuff though... not yet at least
[01:56] <philipballew> i had lts on one desktop but the3 kernel didn't support a new wireless driver i bought
[01:56] <holstein> yeah, thats a good reason to jump
[01:56] <charlie-tca> philipballew: try running sudo update-grub in a terminal, see if it picks up the -10 kernel.
[01:57] <philipballew> its hard to patch the lts kernal with drivers i need
[03:05] <ubutun00b> hey all
[03:07] <coalwater> hi ubutun00b
[03:07] <ubutun00b> whats shaking?
[03:07] <coalwater> i dont know, my head maybe lol
[03:08] <ubutun00b> hehe
[03:12] <ubutun00b> anyone know a decent itunes alternative so i can hot swap between my windows and ubuntu partition
[03:12] <coalwater> for ipod / iphone and such ?
[03:13] <ubutun00b> yeah
[03:13] <coalwater> not sure if this has what you need, but u could try it
[03:13] <coalwater> !ipod
[03:13] <ubot2> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:13] <ubutun00b> !rockbox
[03:13] <ubot2> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[09:00] <Udonnome> krusi,you there dude?
[11:04] <Udonnome> guys what command should i use to see my current wifi driver,couse i need to unload it?
[11:07] <Multivitamin> hey I got this program installed, something like an IRC client but with pop-up private messages, and I run it on wine. the thing is, the pm's don't display in the pop ups  and I get an error (so i changed that to 'display as part of the main window, now I got all pm's in separate tabs) so if there's anything I could do via wine or stgh to fix this..?  Also, the links in it don't work - the browser doesn't open
[16:02] <holstein> Multivitamin: what client? if its a windows only app, and you are married to it, you might just have to deal with how it works in WINE... sometimes you can use a different WINE version and get better results
[16:02] <Multivitamin> a'right.
[16:03] <Multivitamin> well, it's a polish one; ) and i'm sorta stuck between that and a java applet, so yup, im married to it (:
[16:03] <Multivitamin> but thanks (:
[16:04] <holstein> you would surely need to share the name of the app if you expect some feedback on it
[16:04] <holstein> i would want to check in a windows channel
[16:04] <holstein> see if anyone running it natively have the same issues
[16:05] <Multivitamin> it works fine on windows.
[16:05] <Multivitamin> anyways, the app is ICeQ
[16:07] <holstein> Multivitamin: i see mention of ies4linux, do you have that?
[16:08] <Multivitamin> never heard of such?
[16:08] <Multivitamin> will i find it in software centre?
[16:08] <holstein> personally, i cant imagine what functionality you could be getting that you cant find from a native linux app
[16:09] <holstein> this is what i found that mentioned ies4linux http://linux360.pl/forum/thread-4200.html
[16:09] <holstein> im pretty sure that is *not* in the software center
[16:09] <holstein> this would be something you would need to hack at for quite some time i would imagine
[16:09] <holstein> again, you cant use xchat?
[16:10] <Multivitamin> that's a chat client for a polish chat ..
[16:10] <Multivitamin> well guess i could try to set it up somehow ;f
[16:12] <holstein> Multivitamin: what polish chat?...
[16:12] <Multivitamin> polchat.
[16:12] <Multivitamin> .pl
[16:14] <holstein> http://www.polchat.pl/chat.php is working fine for me in the browser
[16:15] <holstein> i dont see iceq listed at winehq, which means you are pretty much on your own with trying to get it to work in wine
[16:17] <holstein> i would contact them and ask if you can connect in with a different client... see if they have a server address somewhere like freenode
[16:18] <Multivitamin> Okay. I think i found something that would work with that website so I'll check that.
[16:18] <Multivitamin> thanks a lot : )
[16:18] <holstein> sure
[17:27] <charlie-tca> An opportunity - https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=289
[18:10] <loopdigga> anyone available to help?
[18:11] <coalwater> just ask away
[18:11] <loopdigga> How do i control my fan speed
[18:11] <coalwater> hm, why would u want to do that?
[18:11] <loopdigga> its really loud!
[18:12] <coalwater> well it's loud for a reason
[18:12] <loopdigga> it ran quiet on windows
[18:12] <coalwater> the processor is probably hot
[18:12] <coalwater> i see
[18:12] <coalwater> u use unity i suppose
[18:12] <loopdigga> no it would control it on windows based on temp and it was quiet and never overheated
[18:12] <loopdigga> im using unity right now
[18:13] <coalwater> and it's loud ?
[18:13] <loopdigga> it runs at full speed all the time
[18:13] <coalwater> would you mind trying loggin in using gnome-classic session ?
[18:14] <loopdigga> whats that? sorry i'm completely new :(
[18:14] <coalwater> ok, so when u log in, at the bottom u choose the session type
[18:14] <coalwater> by default it's set on 'ubuntu'
[18:14] <coalwater> but if u check the other options there's gnome  classic and recovery console
[18:14] <coalwater> and few other things
[18:14] <coalwater> try gnome-classic
[18:14] <coalwater> and log in
[18:14] <loopdigga> i've never had that option
[18:15] <coalwater> hm let me get u a screen shot from somewhere
[18:15] <loopdigga> i think mine logs in automatically
[18:15] <coalwater> http://scottlinux.com/wp-content/gallery/natty_classic/natty_classic_edit1.png
[18:16] <loopdigga> once i get my fan started i need a complete beginners guide
[18:16] <loopdigga> sorted*
[18:16] <coalwater> u're interested in the beginners team ?
[18:17] <loopdigga> I don't know what that is
[18:17] <coalwater> what beginners guide do u mean then
[18:17] <loopdigga> a guide to using this operating system
[18:17] <coalwater> ah , ok , sorry misunderstood that
[18:18] <coalwater> do you know what video card does ur computer own ?
[18:18] <loopdigga> ok so i need to log in with classic?
[18:19] <coalwater> yea, i think that will make ur computer cool down, if what i think is what is causing the heat
[18:19] <loopdigga> its geforce gts 450
[18:19] <loopdigga> my computer isn't heating
[18:19] <loopdigga> its fine
[18:19] <coalwater> hm
[18:19] <loopdigga> its jsut running at full speed for no reason
[18:20] <loopdigga> it would do it on windows unless i used a piece of software from my motherboard website
[18:20] <coalwater> okay.. did u try updating , and install the driver for the video card?
[18:20] <loopdigga> theres nothing wrong with the video card
[18:20] <loopdigga> its the processor fan
[18:20] <coalwater> i know there isn't
[18:21] <loopdigga> sorry
[18:21] <loopdigga> im talking about the cpu fan not the gpu fan
[18:21] <coalwater> look, ill explain, unity uses hardware acceleration, if u didn't install a video card driver, it probably will put more of the strain on the processor than the GPU it self, or that's what im assuming, so that causes heat
[18:22] <loopdigga> i thought i just needed to get the fan to control speed based on temp
[18:23] <coalwater> it's handled automatically from the mother board i believe
[18:23] <loopdigga> ok
[18:23] <loopdigga> i'll log in in classic mode
[18:26] <loopdigga> back
[18:27] <loopdigga> the fan sounds the same
[18:27] <loopdigga> any other solutions?
[18:29] <coalwater> hmm
[18:29] <coalwater> u're on the classic interface now right?
[18:30] <loopdigga> aye
[18:30] <coalwater> ok well i'm not sure if this helps but u could try installing the driver , on system menu > administration or prefrences, not sure, then ull find an item called addional drivers, it should list u a couple of drives, with 1 [recommended]
[18:32] <loopdigga> it says the driver is activated but not in use
[18:33] <loopdigga> thats for the graphics card
[18:34] <coalwater> hm
[18:35] <coalwater> did u see an nvidia logo in preferences ?
[18:35] <loopdigga> no but i can seeit in admin
[18:37] <coalwater> bye lol
[18:38] <coalwater> guess he preferred windows at the end
[19:41] <Aj_> hi
[19:42] <bioterror> howdy
[19:47] <MichealH> Hey all :D
[20:00] <Aj_> my system uses a proxy server and i am not able to install programs using command line
[20:00] <Aj_> error 407 authentication required
[20:01] <Aj_> any solution???
[20:01] <holstein> Aj_: are you sure thats related?
[20:02] <Aj_> yep...
[20:02] <holstein> is it a laptop? can you go somewhere without a proxy and test? or bypass the proxy temporarily to confirm it?
[20:02] <Aj_> nope...
[20:02] <sattu94> Aj_:  did u try changing the global proxy settings?
[20:02] <Aj_> bt i heard that it can be done by editing apt.conf file
[20:03] <Aj_> i have done that bt that does not work strangely
[20:03] <Aj_> it works in ubuntu software center as well as synaptic manager
[20:03] <sattu94> then i guess it's not related.
[20:04] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136065 seems relevant
[20:05] <Aj_> holstein: thanx
[21:29] <philipballew> can someone help me set up ssh?
[21:30] <philipballew> !ssh
[21:30] <ubot2> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)
[21:30] <coalwater> philipballew, hi
[21:30] <coalwater> i could help
[21:31] <coalwater> if u still need
[21:31] <philipballew> i would love help
[21:32] <coalwater> so , what have u done so far
[21:32] <coalwater> did you install ssh server?
[21:32] <philipballew> well i have a desktop running 10.10 and i want to set up a ssh server on it to then connect from a laptop and stream music to it.
[21:33] <philipballew> so nothing
[21:33] <coalwater> o
[21:33] <coalwater> why ssh , why not just network?
[21:34] <philipballew> not sure.  thought it might be easier
[21:34] <philipballew> i do need to sometime install ssh on my desktop though
[21:34] <coalwater> both computers will always be on the same network right ?
[21:34] <philipballew> whenever they are needed to play music they will
[21:35] <coalwater> ok, so on the computer that contains the music, right click the folder with the music and choose to share it
[21:35] <coalwater> you'll find 'sharing options'
[21:35] <coalwater> choose 'share this folder' and you might also like to choose 'guest access'
[21:36] <philipballew> does it matter that this is wireless on my desktop?
[21:36] <coalwater> no
[21:38] <philipballew> alright. sorry i had to find a antenna for my wireless internet. lets try this now
[21:39] <coalwater> ok, so did u enable the share ?
[21:39] <philipballew> i clicked share. now its installing packages
[21:40] <philipballew> 4 minutes left
[21:40] <coalwater> good,  i guess it's installing samba
[21:40] <philipballew> my laptop i need to connect to in a cli install od debian squeeze. just fyi
[21:40] <coalwater> after it's done i think u should be able to see the folder on the other ocmputer
[21:41] <coalwater> sorry?
[21:41] <philipballew> i installed squueze this morning
[21:41] <philipballew> its an old ppc laptop
[21:41] <coalwater> ok
[21:42] <coalwater> u dont have nautilus on it ?
[21:42] <coalwater> or any similar file explorer
[21:42] <philipballew> its clomand line only
[21:42] <coalwater> ok
[21:42] <coalwater> so u want to run music though cli ?
[21:42] <coalwater> is that why u wanted ssh ?
[21:42] <philipballew> i am not gonna install a gui if all its doin is playin music
[21:42] <philipballew> no
[21:43] <philipballew> i can use a cli based music player
[21:43] <coalwater> hm
[21:43] <philipballew> cmus is a good one
[21:43] <bioterror> philipballew, take MOC or MPD
[21:43] <coalwater> okay guess we'll try to figure out how to mount a network shared folder
[21:43] <philipballew> bioterror, come again?
[21:44] <coalwater> 'music on console' , that's what google said, i guess he's suggesting a player
[21:44] <bioterror> or music player daemon or what ever that was
[21:44] <bioterror> upnp stuff
[21:44] <philipballew> how do i connect to the web from cli? sorry for the noob question
[21:44] <bioterror> with telnet, ofcourse
[21:45] <bioterror> telnet hostname 80
[21:45] <bioterror> :D
[21:45] <philipballew> its wireless with wpa
[21:45] <philipballew> :)
[21:45] <bioterror> w3m, links, elinks, lynx
[21:45] <coalwater> lynx? lol
[21:45] <bioterror> take one
[21:46] <philipballew> its a router. so what your saying works? bioterror  lol i know the cli browsers. but how can i connect to my royter from the cli?
[21:46] <coalwater> that would be a werid way to use the internet but it's usable.. sort of
[21:46] <bioterror> why weird?
[21:46] <bioterror> internet used to be just text
[21:46] <philipballew> its great
[21:46] <philipballew> i have elinks on a ubuntu server
[21:46] <bioterror> then someone invented that we need flash!
[21:46] <philipballew> helps sometimes
[21:47] <coalwater> cause no images, no css, no videos, just text :D
[21:47] <philipballew> stupid flash...
[21:47] <philipballew> html5 ftw!
[21:47] <bioterror> text requires imagination :(
[21:47] <coalwater> i guess some ascii art would be an alternative lool
[21:47] <bioterror> it's like reading LotR, instead of watching the films
[21:48] <coalwater> bioterror, do u know how to mount smb files from cli ? i could google it but would be easier if u do :D
[21:48] <philipballew> haha. do any of you know how to connect wireless from a laptop with the comand line?
[21:48] <coalwater> dont u have a network daemon
[21:49] <coalwater> hm
[21:49] <coalwater> nvm
[21:49] <philipballew> coalwater, idk. just installed squeeze this morning
[21:49] <bioterror> sure
[21:50] <philipballew> bioterror, whats the best way? google wouldnt tell me
[21:50] <philipballew> haha
[21:51] <bioterror> your ubuntu should have smbfs, but cifs-utils might be more decent?
[21:53] <coalwater> philipballew, it's a bit old and has an 'unsupported' notice on the top, but might help some how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[21:53] <philipballew> i found this as well http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/
[21:55] <coalwater> why not install a lightweight gui like lubuntu, how bad is the laptop, lol
[21:57] <philipballew> 192 mb
[21:57] <philipballew> its an old ppc ibook
[21:59] <coalwater> lubuntu says it needs 128 only
[22:00] <coalwater> "A Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MiB of RAM is probably a bottom-line configuration that may yield slow yet usable system with Lubuntu. It should be possible to install and run Lubuntu with less memory, but the result will likely not be suitable for practical use. "
[22:01] <philipballew> yeah. and a cli system can easily stream music i think
[22:01] <coalwater> yea, guess im lazy
[22:01] <philipballew> i just need to see whats up with this. i can go hook it to cat5 right now for the meantime
[22:02] <coalwater> that would solve the networking problem
[22:02] <philipballew> hold on 1 minute!
[22:04] <philipballew> alright. were pluged in
[22:04] <philipballew> we have a connection on both computers
[22:06] <coalwater> ok so now we need to mount the smb folder
[22:07] <philipballew> i think so. whats the best way to do that?
[22:08] <philipballew> im kinda confused here :)
[22:08] <coalwater> im looking how to do on through cli
[22:08] <philipballew> do you have a page so i can see as well. im pretty good with cli
[22:09] <philipballew> i wouldnt ave installed a cli only system if i wasnt :)
[22:11] <coalwater> well , u need to find out how to mount a network folder through cli :D
[22:14] <philipballew> alright ill look at that, otherwise i can just do ssh
[22:16] <coalwater> well, suppose u did the ssh connection, how would the local device run the remote file
[22:17] <philipballew> thats where i am stuck as well.
[22:19] <coalwater> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-mount-a-remote-folder-using-ssh-on-ubuntu/
[22:21] <philipballew> looks easy to me
[22:21] <philipballew> now i will just need to set up ssh
[22:21] <philipballew> !ssh
[22:21] <ubot2> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)
[22:21] <coalwater> apt-get install openssh-server i think
[22:21] <coalwater> i have one on my pc, but i did that a while ago
[22:22] <coalwater> use it to access my computer from work
[22:22] <philipballew> yeah. but its the configuring that takes a little bit of work
[22:22] <philipballew> i need to install a dynamic ip cliant i think
[22:23] <coalwater> luckily my router supports it
[22:23] <coalwater> the router does the dynamic ip part
[22:24] <philipballew> how so?
[22:25] <coalwater> it's not a linksys, but it has a page like this http://www.home-network-help.com/images/router-ddns.jpg
[22:26] <philipballew> im running a linskys with ddwrt myself
[22:26] <coalwater> by the way
[22:26] <coalwater> i figured out the mounting part
[22:27] <philipballew> hum? you did did you?
[22:27] <coalwater> on the laptop mkdir a folder on where ever u want
[22:28] <philipballew> hum... seemes easy
[22:28] <coalwater> then sudo mount -t cifs //[the_pc_ip]/[Music_folder_name] /local_laptop_dir
[22:28] <coalwater> then just ls that dir and see if it works
[22:30] <philipballew> and this is for samba?
[22:30] <coalwater> what did it say?
[22:30] <coalwater> that it doesnt know what cifs is ?
[22:31] <coalwater> and yes i believe so
[22:32] <philipballew> i havent tried it yet. is this for the laptop?
[22:32] <philipballew> or the files with the music?
[22:32] <coalwater> all these are on the laptop
[22:34] <philipballew> alright, ill try this in a little bit. i will get back to the channel to tell you what happenes
[22:35] <coalwater> okay
[22:36] <philipballew> im gonna set up ddns now
[22:36] <philipballew> so i need to do that :)
[22:36] <coalwater> okie