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paultagAlanBell: well that's fun00:09
nigelbjcastro: :( We suck. The wiki page for installing software isn't up-to-date for Natty or Maverick.01:45
nigelbThis means there is no documentation for installing software in Unity Interface.01:46
Pendulumor at least, nothing easily searchable on the web for linking to people01:46
Pendulumnot to mention that it has the most technical solutions first on it before the GUI solution01:46
Pendulumjcastro: actually it seems that there's Maverick documentation for installing software, no Natty info on it and the pages you get when you google is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware which has no indication that it's not current unless you know it isn't for a fact01:52
Pendulumoh, nigelb found Natty info01:53
Pendulumbut it's really confusing01:53
Pendulum(to try to find any of it)01:53
Pendulumseems it's probably another spot that needs clean up ;-)01:53
mhall119nigelb: go to sleep!01:55
Pendulummhall119: he did02:02
nigelbNot rreally.02:02
Pendulumnigelb: GO TO BED02:02
nigelbI just realized I was halfway through laundry. Just finished.02:02
nigelbOkay okay okay.02:02
Pendulumit's past my bedtime, it must be past yours02:03
nigelbPendulum: Its more like wake up time....02:03
nigelb6:30 am :)02:03
nigelbmhall119: The sun is in my eye :|02:03
mhall119you know what helps that?02:16
mhall119going to bed at a reasonable time02:16
mhall119like, while the sun is still on the other side of the planet02:16
paultagOh, brilliant03:34
paultagI have new Onric changes being piped to my second monitor as they get uploaded03:34
paultagBRB03:35
nigelbmhall119: Well, I had work till 4 am. Can't touch production db till we're not making write calls to it :(07:03
paultagnigelb: check it, I'm stalking Ubuntu and Debian changes, live -- http://pault.ag:8080/index.html07:08
paultagnigelb: that comit stuff we were talking about before. I have it running on my secondary. I'm fairly happy with it07:08
paultagholy shit it's 2 AM, time for bed. One love.07:08
nigelbpaultag: are you parsign the changes m/l?07:13
nigelbpopey: <3 schizobird.07:15
nigelbpopey: You actually convinced someone to get proxy support. I hereby declare the word proxy be replaced by popey ;)07:15
dholbachgood morning07:53
dpmgood morning all08:19
dholbachhola dpm08:36
dpmhola dholbach08:39
popeynigelb: cool isnt it :D09:02
nigelbpopey: Indeed!09:11
AlanBelljcastro: popey: that alt-tab compiz speed setting thingummy09:40
popeyyes09:41
AlanBelldo we know who set it and what the process is for getting it unset?09:41
popeyalso known as "what were they thinking with that default!?"09:41
AlanBellthe mouse cursor polling default has changed too09:41
AlanBellfrom 10ms to 40ms09:41
popeyI would ask sam spillaz09:41
AlanBellwhich makes ezoom choppier than it needs to be09:41
AlanBellok, will ask smspillaz09:42
AlanBellI think there should be a comprehensive review of cool stuff we turned off for unknown reasons09:42
popeywell09:42
popeysome may well be defaults09:43
popeyfrom upstream09:43
AlanBelltrue09:43
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dholbachcjohnston, do you have an idea who could help with the rebranding of the packaging guide? (reuse ubuntu-website/light theme)11:00
nigelbdholbach: Probably daker or Ronnie. I know the rest of us on the team aren't very great with design :)11:05
dholbachok11:07
dholbachI just thought that cjohnston was interested in helping out too11:08
nigelbah, maybe11:09
dholbachjono, bad news regarding the WI tracker - in one of my blueprints "Work items" was missing from the top of the blueprint whiteboard, so the actions didn't show up on the work item tracker11:28
jonodholbach, shit11:28
jonodholbach, how many items?11:28
dholbachI just wondered why they didn't show up11:29
dholbachjono, I'll get the line repainted11:29
dholbachlet me check11:29
jonothanks11:29
dholbachjono, 12, but some of them should be done and some easy to do11:29
dholbachlet me update11:29
jonodholbach, np11:32
jonothe sprint should help deal with the delta11:32
dholbachyes, agreed11:32
cjohnstondholbach: what in specific about the rebranding?11:33
dholbachcjohnston, http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/packaging-guide/html/ looks quite boring11:34
dholbachcjohnston, somebody started work on branding it like all other Ubuntu material11:34
dholbachbut it wasn't using the ubuntu-website/light-theme11:34
cjohnstonthats right.. its sphinx11:34
dholbachI blogged about it last week and it looked like you were interested in helping out11:34
cjohnstonwe use ubuntu-community-webthemes now.. so /light-base-theme11:35
cjohnstondo you know how the theming works?11:35
cjohnstonI have to leave for work, but I'll check back on here as soon as I can11:35
dholbachhang on, let me show you the work that's been done already11:35
cjohnstonMaybe PM me with the info?11:35
cjohnstono/11:35
dholbachhttps://code.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-packaging-guide/new-colours/+merge/5601011:35
dholbachsure11:35
jonodholbach, have you reached out to the mentors yet about the names we identified as menteeS?13:00
jonomentees13:00
jonobiab13:14
czajkowskimentos now I want13:16
czajkowskisomeone go to the shop please13:16
czajkowskiwhile I continue to stab lp and iso codes :)13:16
dholbachjono: I have not reached out to mentors yet, but I'm on it14:47
czajkowskipaultag: darling!!!!!!15:10
mhall119darling huh?15:14
czajkowskimhall119: it's not a good sign15:17
czajkowskitrust me15:17
czajkowskigreg-g: and Technoviking also are naughty15:17
mhall119heh15:18
* mhall119 is going to buy czajkowski that cattle prod15:18
czajkowskijono: want to help me on a campaign of getting team contacts to be well contactable :)15:28
head_victimczajkowski: asking a bit much aren't you ;)15:39
czajkowskiyou'd think a team contact would you know like to be contacted, listed as the team contact on the loco.u.c mind boggling morning15:40
czajkowskiright off shopping and getting good15:40
popeygood?15:42
czajkowskifood15:43
czajkowskidear gods15:44
czajkowskiit's been a long morning15:44
czajkowskibreakfast was tea and a banana15:44
czajkowskiI need something big for lunch15:44
mhall119czajkowski: I re-worded one of your bugs a bit16:07
mhall119since LD already requires that you enter a contact before saving the team details form16:07
mhall119the only time contact will be blank is if nobody's updated the form through LD at all16:07
mhall119but I'm leaving the bug open to see if we can find a way to get more teams to fill that data in16:08
mhall119czajkowski: Ronnie wrote a patch that would set a team's contact to be the LP team owner if they haven't set anything in LD16:10
mhall119cjohnston suggested that it use admins instead of, or in addition to, the owner16:10
mhall119what are your thoughts on that?16:10
czajkowskimhall119: team owner while it is good doesnt help in some cases16:11
czajkowskiI agree it's better than nothing16:11
czajkowskibut i some cases the team owner is not the team contact16:11
czajkowskiI think the UK is an example of this ..16:11
czajkowskinot 100% on this16:12
mhall119right, we know that, but if no contact is specified would it be an acceptable temporary value?16:12
mhall119they can always change it in LD to the proper contact, and then it'll stay that way16:12
mhall119even if it's not the contact, it at least gets you someone to email to have it updated16:13
czajkowskinods16:13
czajkowskiyup16:13
mhall119what are your thoughts on using the LP admins as well as, or instead of, the owner?16:13
AlanBellczajkowski: the UK is no longer an example of this16:16
AlanBellbut it was up to 4 days ago16:16
czajkowskimhall119: today I mailed the lp admins16:19
czajkowskigot 2 back saying it was someone elses job16:19
czajkowskiso just means more mails16:19
czajkowskiright running out16:19
czajkowskibbibab16:19
czajkowskiadlo16:19
jonoczajkowski, bit slammed now, what do you need/16:21
jono?16:21
Technovikingczajkowski: what did I do now?16:23
Technoviking:)16:23
jcastrohey AlanBell16:27
jcastrodid you end up screen scraping all that?16:27
AlanBello/ jcastro16:27
jcastroor importing or whatever insane thing you were doing? :)16:28
AlanBell20001 pages scooped up so far16:28
AlanBellhalfway there16:28
jcastroheh16:28
AlanBellit gets a page every 3 seconds16:29
AlanBell279MB of stuff scooped up so far16:32
jcastroand you're just shoving it into mediawiki?16:32
AlanBellno, shoving it into text files at the moment, but I will shove it into a local moin wiki16:32
AlanBellI want to see if there are performance issues relating to the number of pages, or the number of users, or the number of old revisions of pages16:33
AlanBellI might run a script over it to change to mediawiki format and scoop it into a mediawiki, see if that is any faster16:33
AlanBellall it does so far is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/631851/16:36
AlanBellwhere index.txt is the full list of pages on the wiki16:37
paultagAlanBell: I love the useragent part ;)16:40
paultagAlanBell: that16:41
paultagsorry, not used to my netbook. That is pretty awesome16:41
paultagyou should grep the dump for statistics16:41
AlanBellheh, yeah, took me a while to figure out why I was getting a 503 from wget but not from a browser :)16:42
AlanBellyeah, I was grepping it for viagra16:42
paultagAlanBell: trying to find so sweet deals, yeah?16:42
AlanBell:)16:43
paultag:P16:43
AlanBelllast night I took a lot of viagra16:43
AlanBellspam off the wiki16:43
paultagHAHA! Hold on, no one move16:43
AlanBelland did you know the word specialist contains "cialis"16:44
paultaghttp://i.imgur.com/pnh9U.png ← It's a new nerd meme16:49
AlanBelloi!16:49
AlanBellbad paultag16:49
paultagAlanBell: No, it's like the other meme, that racist one -- http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/136/030/tumblr_lmtpmtUYID1qe11kdo1_500.jpg?130834188016:50
paultagAlanBell: this one I want to be able to remove, but thought of another one  --  http://me.pault.ag/alan.png16:53
paultagdude, this could be an amazing meme16:53
paultaglook at how brilliant that is16:53
AlanBellerr, yeah you can remove that one16:54
paultagAlanBell: hey! the finger command works wonders at getting email and GPG info off the debian servers :)16:54
paultagOK, I'm off. BBL16:55
AlanBellyeah, I recall that from uni, I haven't used that for many many years16:55
nigelbpaultag: haha, awesome meme!16:57
dholbachalrightie, I'll call it a day17:04
dholbachand see some of you next week17:04
dholbachhave a great weekend everyone!17:05
pleia2jcastro, jono - is sg coming to do his class today?17:22
jonopleia2, he is there17:23
jonodifferent nick17:23
jonoI am asking him to be sg17:23
pleia2I can update the calendar to be stevegeorge if he'd rather17:24
doctormopaultag: ping17:32
czajkowskipleia2: your banner is on its way17:55
pleia2czajkowski: I saw, thanks :)17:55
czajkowskijono: not urgent can harass you another time my dear17:55
czajkowski:P17:55
czajkowskiharass in a good way17:55
jonothanks czajkowski :-)17:58
czajkowskiI have one task left on my to do list18:02
czajkowskicommunity week topics18:03
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paultagdoctormo: pong20:36
paultagOh, brilliant. I got bus working on this, too. Yes.21:31
paultagbugs *21:31
mhall119czajkowski: in fairness to IRC, we embed the webchat in LD23:46

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