[00:09] <paultag> AlanBell: well that's fun
[01:45] <nigelb> jcastro: :( We suck. The wiki page for installing software isn't up-to-date for Natty or Maverick.
[01:46] <nigelb> This means there is no documentation for installing software in Unity Interface.
[01:46] <Pendulum> or at least, nothing easily searchable on the web for linking to people
[01:46] <Pendulum> not to mention that it has the most technical solutions first on it before the GUI solution
[01:52] <Pendulum> jcastro: actually it seems that there's Maverick documentation for installing software, no Natty info on it and the pages you get when you google is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware which has no indication that it's not current unless you know it isn't for a fact
[01:53] <Pendulum> oh, nigelb found Natty info
[01:53] <Pendulum> but it's really confusing
[01:53] <Pendulum> (to try to find any of it)
[01:53] <Pendulum> seems it's probably another spot that needs clean up ;-)
[01:55] <mhall119> nigelb: go to sleep!
[02:02] <Pendulum> mhall119: he did
[02:02] <nigelb> Not rreally.
[02:02] <Pendulum> nigelb: GO TO BED
[02:02] <nigelb> I just realized I was halfway through laundry. Just finished.
[02:02] <nigelb> Okay okay okay.
[02:03] <Pendulum> it's past my bedtime, it must be past yours
[02:03] <nigelb> Pendulum: Its more like wake up time....
[02:03] <nigelb> 6:30 am :)
[02:03] <nigelb> mhall119: The sun is in my eye :|
[02:16] <mhall119> you know what helps that?
[02:16] <mhall119> going to bed at a reasonable time
[02:16] <mhall119> like, while the sun is still on the other side of the planet
[03:34] <paultag> Oh, brilliant
[03:34] <paultag> I have new Onric changes being piped to my second monitor as they get uploaded
[03:35] <paultag> BRB
[07:03] <nigelb> mhall119: Well, I had work till 4 am. Can't touch production db till we're not making write calls to it :(
[07:08] <paultag> nigelb: check it, I'm stalking Ubuntu and Debian changes, live -- http://pault.ag:8080/index.html
[07:08] <paultag> nigelb: that comit stuff we were talking about before. I have it running on my secondary. I'm fairly happy with it
[07:08] <paultag> holy shit it's 2 AM, time for bed. One love.
[07:13] <nigelb> paultag: are you parsign the changes m/l?
[07:15] <nigelb> popey: <3 schizobird.
[07:15] <nigelb> popey: You actually convinced someone to get proxy support. I hereby declare the word proxy be replaced by popey ;)
[07:53] <dholbach> good morning
[08:19] <dpm> good morning all
[08:36] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:39] <dpm> hola dholbach
[09:02] <popey> nigelb: cool isnt it :D
[09:11] <nigelb> popey: Indeed!
[09:40] <AlanBell> jcastro: popey: that alt-tab compiz speed setting thingummy
[09:41] <popey> yes
[09:41] <AlanBell> do we know who set it and what the process is for getting it unset?
[09:41] <popey> also known as "what were they thinking with that default!?"
[09:41] <AlanBell> the mouse cursor polling default has changed too
[09:41] <AlanBell> from 10ms to 40ms
[09:41] <popey> I would ask sam spillaz
[09:41] <AlanBell> which makes ezoom choppier than it needs to be
[09:42] <AlanBell> ok, will ask smspillaz
[09:42] <AlanBell> I think there should be a comprehensive review of cool stuff we turned off for unknown reasons
[09:42] <popey> well
[09:43] <popey> some may well be defaults
[09:43] <popey> from upstream
[09:43] <AlanBell> true
[11:00] <dholbach> cjohnston, do you have an idea who could help with the rebranding of the packaging guide? (reuse ubuntu-website/light theme)
[11:05] <nigelb> dholbach: Probably daker or Ronnie. I know the rest of us on the team aren't very great with design :)
[11:07] <dholbach> ok
[11:08] <dholbach> I just thought that cjohnston was interested in helping out too
[11:09] <nigelb> ah, maybe
[11:28] <dholbach> jono, bad news regarding the WI tracker - in one of my blueprints "Work items" was missing from the top of the blueprint whiteboard, so the actions didn't show up on the work item tracker
[11:28] <jono> dholbach, shit
[11:28] <jono> dholbach, how many items?
[11:29] <dholbach> I just wondered why they didn't show up
[11:29] <dholbach> jono, I'll get the line repainted
[11:29] <dholbach> let me check
[11:29] <jono> thanks
[11:29] <dholbach> jono, 12, but some of them should be done and some easy to do
[11:29] <dholbach> let me update
[11:32] <jono> dholbach, np
[11:32] <jono> the sprint should help deal with the delta
[11:32] <dholbach> yes, agreed
[11:33] <cjohnston> dholbach: what in specific about the rebranding?
[11:34] <dholbach> cjohnston, http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/packaging-guide/html/ looks quite boring
[11:34] <dholbach> cjohnston, somebody started work on branding it like all other Ubuntu material
[11:34] <dholbach> but it wasn't using the ubuntu-website/light-theme
[11:34] <cjohnston> thats right.. its sphinx
[11:34] <dholbach> I blogged about it last week and it looked like you were interested in helping out
[11:35] <cjohnston> we use ubuntu-community-webthemes now.. so /light-base-theme
[11:35] <cjohnston> do you know how the theming works?
[11:35] <cjohnston> I have to leave for work, but I'll check back on here as soon as I can
[11:35] <dholbach> hang on, let me show you the work that's been done already
[11:35] <cjohnston> Maybe PM me with the info?
[11:35] <cjohnston> o/
[11:35] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-packaging-guide/new-colours/+merge/56010
[11:35] <dholbach> sure
[13:00] <jono> dholbach, have you reached out to the mentors yet about the names we identified as menteeS?
[13:00] <jono> mentees
[13:14] <jono> biab
[13:16] <czajkowski> mentos now I want
[13:16] <czajkowski> someone go to the shop please
[13:16] <czajkowski> while I continue to stab lp and iso codes :)
[14:47] <dholbach> jono: I have not reached out to mentors yet, but I'm on it
[15:10] <czajkowski> paultag: darling!!!!!!
[15:14] <mhall119> darling huh?
[15:17] <czajkowski> mhall119: it's not a good sign
[15:17] <czajkowski> trust me
[15:17] <czajkowski> greg-g: and Technoviking also are naughty
[15:18] <mhall119> heh
[15:18]  * mhall119 is going to buy czajkowski that cattle prod
[15:28] <czajkowski> jono: want to help me on a campaign of getting team contacts to be well contactable :)
[15:39] <head_victim> czajkowski: asking a bit much aren't you ;)
[15:40] <czajkowski> you'd think a team contact would you know like to be contacted, listed as the team contact on the loco.u.c mind boggling morning
[15:40] <czajkowski> right off shopping and getting good
[15:42] <popey> good?
[15:43] <czajkowski> food
[15:44] <czajkowski> dear gods
[15:44] <czajkowski> it's been a long morning
[15:44] <czajkowski> breakfast was tea and a banana
[15:44] <czajkowski> I need something big for lunch
[16:07] <mhall119> czajkowski: I re-worded one of your bugs a bit
[16:07] <mhall119> since LD already requires that you enter a contact before saving the team details form
[16:07] <mhall119> the only time contact will be blank is if nobody's updated the form through LD at all
[16:08] <mhall119> but I'm leaving the bug open to see if we can find a way to get more teams to fill that data in
[16:10] <mhall119> czajkowski: Ronnie wrote a patch that would set a team's contact to be the LP team owner if they haven't set anything in LD
[16:10] <mhall119> cjohnston suggested that it use admins instead of, or in addition to, the owner
[16:10] <mhall119> what are your thoughts on that?
[16:11] <czajkowski> mhall119: team owner while it is good doesnt help in some cases
[16:11] <czajkowski> I agree it's better than nothing
[16:11] <czajkowski> but i some cases the team owner is not the team contact
[16:11] <czajkowski> I think the UK is an example of this ..
[16:12] <czajkowski> not 100% on this
[16:12] <mhall119> right, we know that, but if no contact is specified would it be an acceptable temporary value?
[16:12] <mhall119> they can always change it in LD to the proper contact, and then it'll stay that way
[16:13] <mhall119> even if it's not the contact, it at least gets you someone to email to have it updated
[16:13] <czajkowski> nods
[16:13] <czajkowski> yup
[16:13] <mhall119> what are your thoughts on using the LP admins as well as, or instead of, the owner?
[16:16] <AlanBell> czajkowski: the UK is no longer an example of this
[16:16] <AlanBell> but it was up to 4 days ago
[16:19] <czajkowski> mhall119: today I mailed the lp admins
[16:19] <czajkowski> got 2 back saying it was someone elses job
[16:19] <czajkowski> so just means more mails
[16:19] <czajkowski> right running out
[16:19] <czajkowski> bbibab
[16:19] <czajkowski> adlo
[16:21] <jono> czajkowski, bit slammed now, what do you need/
[16:21] <jono> ?
[16:23] <Technoviking> czajkowski: what did I do now?
[16:23] <Technoviking> :)
[16:27] <jcastro> hey AlanBell
[16:27] <jcastro> did you end up screen scraping all that?
[16:27] <AlanBell> o/ jcastro
[16:28] <jcastro> or importing or whatever insane thing you were doing? :)
[16:28] <AlanBell> 20001 pages scooped up so far
[16:28] <AlanBell> halfway there
[16:28] <jcastro> heh
[16:29] <AlanBell> it gets a page every 3 seconds
[16:32] <AlanBell> 279MB of stuff scooped up so far
[16:32] <jcastro> and you're just shoving it into mediawiki?
[16:32] <AlanBell> no, shoving it into text files at the moment, but I will shove it into a local moin wiki
[16:33] <AlanBell> I want to see if there are performance issues relating to the number of pages, or the number of users, or the number of old revisions of pages
[16:33] <AlanBell> I might run a script over it to change to mediawiki format and scoop it into a mediawiki, see if that is any faster
[16:36] <AlanBell> all it does so far is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/631851/
[16:37] <AlanBell> where index.txt is the full list of pages on the wiki
[16:40] <paultag> AlanBell: I love the useragent part ;)
[16:41] <paultag> AlanBell: that
[16:41] <paultag> sorry, not used to my netbook. That is pretty awesome
[16:41] <paultag> you should grep the dump for statistics
[16:42] <AlanBell> heh, yeah, took me a while to figure out why I was getting a 503 from wget but not from a browser :)
[16:42] <AlanBell> yeah, I was grepping it for viagra
[16:42] <paultag> AlanBell: trying to find so sweet deals, yeah?
[16:43] <AlanBell> :)
[16:43] <paultag> :P
[16:43] <AlanBell> last night I took a lot of viagra
[16:43] <AlanBell> spam off the wiki
[16:43] <paultag> HAHA! Hold on, no one move
[16:44] <AlanBell> and did you know the word specialist contains "cialis"
[16:49] <paultag> http://i.imgur.com/pnh9U.png ← It's a new nerd meme
[16:49] <AlanBell> oi!
[16:49] <AlanBell> bad paultag
[16:50] <paultag> AlanBell: No, it's like the other meme, that racist one -- http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/136/030/tumblr_lmtpmtUYID1qe11kdo1_500.jpg?1308341880
[16:53] <paultag> AlanBell: this one I want to be able to remove, but thought of another one  --  http://me.pault.ag/alan.png
[16:53] <paultag> dude, this could be an amazing meme
[16:53] <paultag> look at how brilliant that is
[16:54] <AlanBell> err, yeah you can remove that one
[16:54] <paultag> AlanBell: hey! the finger command works wonders at getting email and GPG info off the debian servers :)
[16:55] <paultag> OK, I'm off. BBL
[16:55] <AlanBell> yeah, I recall that from uni, I haven't used that for many many years
[16:57] <nigelb> paultag: haha, awesome meme!
[17:04] <dholbach> alrightie, I'll call it a day
[17:04] <dholbach> and see some of you next week
[17:05] <dholbach> have a great weekend everyone!
[17:22] <pleia2> jcastro, jono - is sg coming to do his class today?
[17:23] <jono> pleia2, he is there
[17:23] <jono> different nick
[17:23] <jono> I am asking him to be sg
[17:24] <pleia2> I can update the calendar to be stevegeorge if he'd rather
[17:32] <doctormo> paultag: ping
[17:55] <czajkowski> pleia2: your banner is on its way
[17:55] <pleia2> czajkowski: I saw, thanks :)
[17:55] <czajkowski> jono: not urgent can harass you another time my dear
[17:55] <czajkowski> :P
[17:55] <czajkowski> harass in a good way
[17:58] <jono> thanks czajkowski :-)
[18:02] <czajkowski> I have one task left on my to do list
[18:03] <czajkowski> community week topics
[20:36] <paultag> doctormo: pong
[21:31] <paultag> Oh, brilliant. I got bus working on this, too. Yes.
[21:31] <paultag> bugs *
[23:46] <mhall119> czajkowski: in fairness to IRC, we embed the webchat in LD