[00:09] AlanBell: well that's fun [01:45] jcastro: :( We suck. The wiki page for installing software isn't up-to-date for Natty or Maverick. [01:46] This means there is no documentation for installing software in Unity Interface. [01:46] or at least, nothing easily searchable on the web for linking to people [01:46] not to mention that it has the most technical solutions first on it before the GUI solution [01:52] jcastro: actually it seems that there's Maverick documentation for installing software, no Natty info on it and the pages you get when you google is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware which has no indication that it's not current unless you know it isn't for a fact [01:53] oh, nigelb found Natty info [01:53] but it's really confusing [01:53] (to try to find any of it) [01:53] seems it's probably another spot that needs clean up ;-) [01:55] nigelb: go to sleep! [02:02] mhall119: he did [02:02] Not rreally. [02:02] nigelb: GO TO BED [02:02] I just realized I was halfway through laundry. Just finished. [02:02] Okay okay okay. [02:03] it's past my bedtime, it must be past yours [02:03] Pendulum: Its more like wake up time.... [02:03] 6:30 am :) [02:03] mhall119: The sun is in my eye :| [02:16] you know what helps that? [02:16] going to bed at a reasonable time [02:16] like, while the sun is still on the other side of the planet [03:34] Oh, brilliant [03:34] I have new Onric changes being piped to my second monitor as they get uploaded [03:35] BRB [07:03] mhall119: Well, I had work till 4 am. Can't touch production db till we're not making write calls to it :( [07:08] nigelb: check it, I'm stalking Ubuntu and Debian changes, live -- http://pault.ag:8080/index.html [07:08] nigelb: that comit stuff we were talking about before. I have it running on my secondary. I'm fairly happy with it [07:08] holy shit it's 2 AM, time for bed. One love. [07:13] paultag: are you parsign the changes m/l? [07:15] popey: <3 schizobird. [07:15] popey: You actually convinced someone to get proxy support. I hereby declare the word proxy be replaced by popey ;) [07:53] good morning [08:19] good morning all [08:36] hola dpm [08:39] hola dholbach [09:02] nigelb: cool isnt it :D [09:11] popey: Indeed! [09:40] jcastro: popey: that alt-tab compiz speed setting thingummy [09:41] yes [09:41] do we know who set it and what the process is for getting it unset? [09:41] also known as "what were they thinking with that default!?" [09:41] the mouse cursor polling default has changed too [09:41] from 10ms to 40ms [09:41] I would ask sam spillaz [09:41] which makes ezoom choppier than it needs to be [09:42] ok, will ask smspillaz [09:42] I think there should be a comprehensive review of cool stuff we turned off for unknown reasons [09:42] well [09:43] some may well be defaults [09:43] from upstream [09:43] true === daker_ is now known as daker [11:00] cjohnston, do you have an idea who could help with the rebranding of the packaging guide? (reuse ubuntu-website/light theme) [11:05] dholbach: Probably daker or Ronnie. I know the rest of us on the team aren't very great with design :) [11:07] ok [11:08] I just thought that cjohnston was interested in helping out too [11:09] ah, maybe [11:28] jono, bad news regarding the WI tracker - in one of my blueprints "Work items" was missing from the top of the blueprint whiteboard, so the actions didn't show up on the work item tracker [11:28] dholbach, shit [11:28] dholbach, how many items? [11:29] I just wondered why they didn't show up [11:29] jono, I'll get the line repainted [11:29] let me check [11:29] thanks [11:29] jono, 12, but some of them should be done and some easy to do [11:29] let me update [11:32] dholbach, np [11:32] the sprint should help deal with the delta [11:32] yes, agreed [11:33] dholbach: what in specific about the rebranding? [11:34] cjohnston, http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/packaging-guide/html/ looks quite boring [11:34] cjohnston, somebody started work on branding it like all other Ubuntu material [11:34] but it wasn't using the ubuntu-website/light-theme [11:34] thats right.. its sphinx [11:34] I blogged about it last week and it looked like you were interested in helping out [11:35] we use ubuntu-community-webthemes now.. so /light-base-theme [11:35] do you know how the theming works? [11:35] I have to leave for work, but I'll check back on here as soon as I can [11:35] hang on, let me show you the work that's been done already [11:35] Maybe PM me with the info? [11:35] o/ [11:35] https://code.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-packaging-guide/new-colours/+merge/56010 [11:35] sure [13:00] dholbach, have you reached out to the mentors yet about the names we identified as menteeS? [13:00] mentees [13:14] biab [13:16] mentos now I want [13:16] someone go to the shop please [13:16] while I continue to stab lp and iso codes :) [14:47] jono: I have not reached out to mentors yet, but I'm on it [15:10] paultag: darling!!!!!! [15:14] darling huh? [15:17] mhall119: it's not a good sign [15:17] trust me [15:17] greg-g: and Technoviking also are naughty [15:18] heh [15:18] * mhall119 is going to buy czajkowski that cattle prod [15:28] jono: want to help me on a campaign of getting team contacts to be well contactable :) [15:39] czajkowski: asking a bit much aren't you ;) [15:40] you'd think a team contact would you know like to be contacted, listed as the team contact on the loco.u.c mind boggling morning [15:40] right off shopping and getting good [15:42] good? [15:43] food [15:44] dear gods [15:44] it's been a long morning [15:44] breakfast was tea and a banana [15:44] I need something big for lunch [16:07] czajkowski: I re-worded one of your bugs a bit [16:07] since LD already requires that you enter a contact before saving the team details form [16:07] the only time contact will be blank is if nobody's updated the form through LD at all [16:08] but I'm leaving the bug open to see if we can find a way to get more teams to fill that data in [16:10] czajkowski: Ronnie wrote a patch that would set a team's contact to be the LP team owner if they haven't set anything in LD [16:10] cjohnston suggested that it use admins instead of, or in addition to, the owner [16:10] what are your thoughts on that? [16:11] mhall119: team owner while it is good doesnt help in some cases [16:11] I agree it's better than nothing [16:11] but i some cases the team owner is not the team contact [16:11] I think the UK is an example of this .. [16:12] not 100% on this [16:12] right, we know that, but if no contact is specified would it be an acceptable temporary value? [16:12] they can always change it in LD to the proper contact, and then it'll stay that way [16:13] even if it's not the contact, it at least gets you someone to email to have it updated [16:13] nods [16:13] yup [16:13] what are your thoughts on using the LP admins as well as, or instead of, the owner? [16:16] czajkowski: the UK is no longer an example of this [16:16] but it was up to 4 days ago [16:19] mhall119: today I mailed the lp admins [16:19] got 2 back saying it was someone elses job [16:19] so just means more mails [16:19] right running out [16:19] bbibab [16:19] adlo [16:21] czajkowski, bit slammed now, what do you need/ [16:21] ? [16:23] czajkowski: what did I do now? [16:23] :) [16:27] hey AlanBell [16:27] did you end up screen scraping all that? [16:27] o/ jcastro [16:28] or importing or whatever insane thing you were doing? :) [16:28] 20001 pages scooped up so far [16:28] halfway there [16:28] heh [16:29] it gets a page every 3 seconds [16:32] 279MB of stuff scooped up so far [16:32] and you're just shoving it into mediawiki? [16:32] no, shoving it into text files at the moment, but I will shove it into a local moin wiki [16:33] I want to see if there are performance issues relating to the number of pages, or the number of users, or the number of old revisions of pages [16:33] I might run a script over it to change to mediawiki format and scoop it into a mediawiki, see if that is any faster [16:36] all it does so far is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/631851/ [16:37] where index.txt is the full list of pages on the wiki [16:40] AlanBell: I love the useragent part ;) [16:41] AlanBell: that [16:41] sorry, not used to my netbook. That is pretty awesome [16:41] you should grep the dump for statistics [16:42] heh, yeah, took me a while to figure out why I was getting a 503 from wget but not from a browser :) [16:42] yeah, I was grepping it for viagra [16:42] AlanBell: trying to find so sweet deals, yeah? [16:43] :) [16:43] :P [16:43] last night I took a lot of viagra [16:43] spam off the wiki [16:43] HAHA! Hold on, no one move [16:44] and did you know the word specialist contains "cialis" [16:49] http://i.imgur.com/pnh9U.png ← It's a new nerd meme [16:49] oi! [16:49] bad paultag [16:50] AlanBell: No, it's like the other meme, that racist one -- http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/136/030/tumblr_lmtpmtUYID1qe11kdo1_500.jpg?1308341880 [16:53] AlanBell: this one I want to be able to remove, but thought of another one -- http://me.pault.ag/alan.png [16:53] dude, this could be an amazing meme [16:53] look at how brilliant that is [16:54] err, yeah you can remove that one [16:54] AlanBell: hey! the finger command works wonders at getting email and GPG info off the debian servers :) [16:55] OK, I'm off. BBL [16:55] yeah, I recall that from uni, I haven't used that for many many years [16:57] paultag: haha, awesome meme! [17:04] alrightie, I'll call it a day [17:04] and see some of you next week [17:05] have a great weekend everyone! [17:22] jcastro, jono - is sg coming to do his class today? [17:23] pleia2, he is there [17:23] different nick [17:23] I am asking him to be sg [17:24] I can update the calendar to be stevegeorge if he'd rather [17:32] paultag: ping [17:55] pleia2: your banner is on its way [17:55] czajkowski: I saw, thanks :) [17:55] jono: not urgent can harass you another time my dear [17:55] :P [17:55] harass in a good way [17:58] thanks czajkowski :-) [18:02] I have one task left on my to do list [18:03] community week topics === daker is now known as daker_ [20:36] doctormo: pong [21:31] Oh, brilliant. I got bus working on this, too. Yes. [21:31] bugs * [23:46] czajkowski: in fairness to IRC, we embed the webchat in LD