[00:29] hey guys, anyone interested in this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/801363 [00:29] Ubuntu bug 801363 in unity "Win+W won't show minimized windows" [Undecided,New] [00:30] seems like it is more of a unity problem/opinion === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === asac_ is now known as asac === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [06:22] a/c [07:18] Good morning [07:18] Morning pitti. [07:22] good morning pitti and TheMuso [07:22] hey chrisccoulson [07:22] Hey chrisccoulson. [07:42] good morning [07:42] bonjour didrocks [07:43] pitti: guten tag! Have you finally succeeded doing some gardening and bikeshedding despite the weather? [07:43] didrocks: some, it got sunny in the evening; but most of the day was pretty lazy admittedly :/ [07:44] pitti: well, when it's the weather forcing you, you can't be guilty :) and some rest is nice as well! [07:45] Morning didrocks. [07:46] good morning TheMuso [08:11] it's going to be an interesting week at the rally next week [08:14] hey chrisccoulson! [08:14] hi didrocks! === htorque_ is now known as htorque [08:43] hey [08:44] bonjour seb128 [08:44] pitti, guten tag, wie gehts? [08:52] nice, yesterday's iso is down by 10 to 11 mb [08:52] i.e almost in the budget [08:54] seb128: dou you think you could have a look at merging cheese from debian experimental? [08:55] salut seb128 [08:55] bigon, it's somewhat on my list but probably after the rally, it will need a collection of mirs [08:55] indeed [08:55] bigon, not speaking about the gst issue since we can only depends on good [08:55] yeah that's suxxs :/ [08:55] bigon, we have work items on the gnome3 specs to mir those or demote cheese [08:56] but since cheese will be used in empathy and maybe ubiquity we need to discuss what to do [08:56] well libcheese-gtk is now on optional dep for empathy [08:56] right [08:56] lut didrocks [08:57] bigon, well we could mir mx, the new clutter libs, etc but we would still be blocked on the gst issue [08:57] hey rodrigo_ [08:57] morning [08:57] bigon, do you need cheese for anything? [08:58] well for the empathy integration, but I can live without I guess :) [08:58] don't want to put 100 of pkg in telepathy ppa [08:58] argh @ gnome-shell FTBFS; I forgot that I had a locally hacked glib header [09:01] about gnome-shell I think that some changes should be merged from the gnome3-team ppa [09:02] (like using firefox) [09:02] it shouldn't use firefox [09:02] it should use the standalone libmozjs [09:02] seb128: iso size> cjwatson landed the .pyc cleaning, really great [09:02] the goal of that lib was to avoid breaking things on firefox updates ;-) [09:02] pitti, indeed [09:02] pitti, I'm waiting to see what today's build give with deja-jup etc [09:03] RAOF said that he can do some more dynamic linking of the gallium drivers, and some mono libs will still disappear [09:03] and dropping python 2.6 support should give us some extra MBs, too [09:03] seb128: well I mean adding the firefox icon instead of the epiphany one in the launcher [09:03] bigon, oh ok [09:04] bigon, the nice thing now is that we are on sync with Debian ;-) [09:04] :p but well not for long I guess [09:05] depends if somebody is wanting to maintaing gnome-shell in Ubuntu [09:05] there was no sign of that so far [09:06] * bigon leaves the room without making noises [09:07] lol [09:10] seb128: ok with me backporting http://git.gnome.org/browse/clutter/commit/?id=2b81d90dd7399c409cf23d7324ff909351dbefa3 to avoid having to patch gnome-shell? [09:10] or should we go to 1.7.12 right away? [09:10] 1.7.2, sorry [09:11] (it's fixed there) [09:12] pitti, I'm fine either way, if you want to update clutter go for it [09:12] pitti, shouldn't g-s build if you disable the deprecation errors? [09:12] well, "want to" is a bit too much (I don't care at all about it), but do we need to at some point anyway? [09:12] we do I guess [09:12] or should we stay with 1.6. (stable series?) for oneiric? [09:13] seb128: yes, but I'd need to patch the build system for that, and this woudl mean introducing an ubuntu delta [09:13] that's what I want to avoid [09:13] it builds fine in sid, and I'd rather fix the cause than the symptom [09:13] until they update their glib [09:13] pitti, but well pick whatever is easier for you [09:13] right, but it's still not a bug in g-s, it's a bug in clutter [09:13] so it'll hit other packages as well, not just g-s [09:14] pitti, I would just diff clutter 1.6 tarball with -1-6trunk and dump that in a patch [09:14] http://git.gnome.org/browse/clutter/log/?h=clutter-1.6 [09:14] the 4 commits [09:14] seb128: oh, right, they backported that [09:14] pitti, I don't want to decide on the new clutter today, we don't have enough visibility for that [09:14] right, doing that then [09:14] pitti, thanks [09:22] about gnome-shell I think that some changes should be merged from the gnome3-team ppa like using firefox [09:22] huh????! [09:22] firefox doesn't even provide a shared libmozjs anymore, unless you want to load the entire browser (ie, libxul.so), just to get jsapi.... [09:22] feel free to do that, but i *guarantee* that gnome-shell will break with every single firefox upload i do ;) [09:23] 10:03 < bigon> seb128: well I mean adding the firefox icon instead of the epiphany one in the launcher [09:23] (in addition to making gnome-shell take a decade to start) ;) [09:23] chrisccoulson: ^ [09:23] oh [09:23] :p [09:23] i misunderstood there then ;) [09:23] that sounds better [09:24] well I was only at my 1st coffee when I've posted that :p [09:24] heh [09:24] that was not really clear [09:24] i should have read the entire scrollback before commenting ;) [09:25] i saw your comment and had a "WTF?" moment ;) [09:25] :) [09:27] hey chrisccoulson, how are you? [09:27] chrisccoulson, you alternate late night and early morning days? ;-) [09:30] pitti, danke fur die clutter "fix"? ;-) [09:32] seb128: gern geschehen [09:32] g-s builds fine now [09:32] I'll retry the build when clutter is published [09:35] ok [09:45] hi seb128, i'm good thanks [09:45] how are you? [09:47] chrisccoulson, I'm fine thank you [10:00] ok, laptop works after a full upgrade, so ready to go to dublin :) [10:06] rodrigo_, there's still time for us to break it before dublin! [10:06] ;) [10:07] chrisccoulson, I won't upgrade anymore :) [10:07] specially if I see a firefox package :) [10:09] well, there are still some kept pack packages, so will install some of those, so yeah, something can break still :) [10:12] hey rodrigo_ [10:13] so, i wonder if people have started to notice yet that Synaptic hasn't actually dropped from the CD? ;) [10:13] hi again, seb128 :) [10:15] rodrigo_, oh, right, I said hello one hour earlier, it's friday, has been a busy week :p [10:15] chrisccoulson, do you wonder if they started to notice the reason is you and your firefox? ;-) [10:15] lol [10:16] i've saved everybody! \o/ [10:16] seb128, :) [10:16] seb128, don't worry, I like a lot when you tell me 'hi' :D [10:16] ;-) [10:17] rodrigo_, and it's a "hi" coming without bug or anything today! [10:17] just a friendly hello ;-) [10:17] seb128: you recently ran the lucid retracer manually, right? [10:18] pitti, yes, did I screw something? [10:18] seb128: the apport failure in bug 800984 looks like there were no configured apt sources for -updates/-security? [10:18] let's rephrase, I bet I did, "what did I break"? ;-) [10:19] seb128, yeah, those are the ones I like :D [10:19] just weird because usually they get added right from the start [10:19] pitti, that's a natty bug there, not a lucid one? [10:19] seb128: ah, indeed, sorry; misread [10:19] seb128: I'll have a look [10:19] pitti, thanks [10:20] pitti, but yes, I'm pretty sure we usually have -updates and -security [10:21] ok, last reboot hopefully [10:21] brb [10:22] seb128: eww -- it indeed only has maverick-{updates,proposed,security? [10:23] pitti, hum, I probably screwed the sed call in the sources.list, sorry :-( [10:24] I'll check the oneiric one as well while I'm at it [10:24] pitti, oh no, it's not screwed sed [10:24] pitti, it's right for the unstable cycle [10:24] right [10:24] pitti, we just didn't change it where natty-updates opened [10:24] when [10:25] we could keep both -1 and current sources for those in the sources.list to avoid those issues [10:25] I guess they would just error out during the unstable cycle or be empty [10:25] but that should break anything [10:26] "shouldnt" [10:27] yes, I'll add both [10:28] pitti, thanks [10:29] * didrocks cries at every bzr bd-do one Qt [10:29] on* [10:30] weirdly, if I just dpkg-source -x, or untar the tarball, it's very fast… [10:49] apropos very fast: the ubuntu wiki is not. it takes ~2 minutes to get a freaking login. [11:01] pitti - oh, you've done a new set of language packs for maverick? [11:02] ah yes [11:02] i need to update my firefox-stable PPA then ;) [11:04] hi smspillaz, would like to chat about some compiz default settings when you have a sec [11:18] chrisccoulson: dpm did, but yes [11:18] chrisccoulson: what did you change there? drop xpis and add the -locale dependencies? [11:19] pitti - yeah, for https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable i repack them without the xpi's and add the recommends [11:26] oh, i'd best get them in whilst the PPA build queue is empty :) [11:33] Does LightDM support automatic logins? Or is that just broken in O? [11:35] njpatel, it does [11:35] njpatel, but you need to edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [11:35] seb128, aah [11:35] # default-user = Username of default user to log in as [11:35] # default-user-timeout = Delay before logging in in seconds (use 0 for automatic login) [11:35] njpatel, ^ those keys [11:37] hmm, where can I see the status of the uploaded packages for oneiric? [11:37] once accepted I mean [11:37] seb128: oh, we should probably fix that in casper, to work on the live system? [11:37] rodrigo_, gnome-desktop3 is in binary New due to the soname change if that's the question [11:37] seb128, also, do you know how to stop all the default locale warnings in the terminal? [11:37] pitti, done previous week [11:37] ah, great [11:38] * pitti rsyncs the current ones [11:38] njpatel, no, don't get that here [11:38] seb128, yes, that was the question [11:38] seb128, is it just for en_GB? ;) [11:38] pitti, [11:38] casper (1.269) oneiric; urgency=low [11:38] [ Colin Watson ] [11:38] * Add LightDM autologin support (LP: #797669). [11:38] seb128: thanks [11:38] seb128, so,where do you check that? [11:38] rodrigo_, launchpad, where else? ;-) [11:38] rodrigo_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/3.1.2-0ubuntu1 [11:38] it says "New" [11:39] rodrigo_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+queue is the queue [11:39] seb128, ok, was asking for a page showing the status of all source packages [11:40] rodrigo_, I'm not sure to understand the question, you want a list of 15000 sources with what info onit? [11:41] seb128, no, just a way to know what's been NEW'ed, etc, but I guess checking the package source I'm interested in is enough :) [11:41] rodrigo_, usually just check the queue, i.e the second URL I gave you [11:41] or the launchpad infos for the version you uploaded and are interested in [11:42] rodrigo_, do you need it to be Newed? [11:42] no, just that it didn't show up on the repos, so wanted a way to check why [11:42] but I'll build it locally for my g-s-d build [11:43] rodrigo_, you didn't test build it locally before uploading? ;-) [11:43] rodrigo_, I can new it but I was avoiding to throw a soname change in on friday before traveling [11:43] rodrigo_, I figured it could wait on monday [11:43] seb128, yes, I did, but on my desktop machine, not on the laptop, where I'm now :) [11:43] seb128, oh yes, it can wait [11:44] I won't upload g-s-d until a lot of testing, so it can wait [11:44] rodrigo_, well you can get the binaries from launchpad, the first URL I gave you [11:44] click on the architecture you want [11:44] it has links to the binaries [11:44] no need, just built it here :) [11:45] my question was just to check why it wasn't in the repos [11:45] so never mind :) [11:46] rodrigo_, new binaries go through New and need to be reviewed or approved so you can usually assume that if things are not in they either failed to build or are waiting in New ;-) [11:46] ok [11:46] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source// has details about the status and is the place to check in any case [11:47] I've a firefox shortcut to "https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/" [11:47] lpsource [11:47] that's handy ;-) [11:47] I've similar ones for bug lists etc [11:47] yeah, adding it [11:47] on bugzilla as well [11:52] hum, lunch time [11:52] bbl [11:53] seb128: indeed, autologin works fine now in kvm [11:53] I just don't get any default launchers in unity-2d, hmm [11:53] seb128: lpp (LaunchPad Package) here, next to lpb, bg… and "latest crack" (directing to daily live CD build) :) [11:53] pitti: oh? [11:54] didrocks: just try it [11:54] kvm -m 1024 -vga vmware -cdrom oneiric-desktop-amd64.iso [11:54] pitti: possible under some condition, let me check something [11:54] yeah, with fallbacking [11:54] I do get default launchers for a fresh user in the installed system (in -2d), though [11:54] righht, that's the auto-fallback [11:54] in my local testing that's with explicit choice in gdm [11:54] right, but you are choosing the session for the fresh user? [11:55] right [11:55] just one sec, confirming :) [11:55] pitti: so right, it's only applied on the selected session [11:55] pitti, didrocks empty launcher bug 797672. could you please confirm. [11:55] Launchpad bug 797672 in unity-2d "No default apps on launcher on a live session." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797672 [11:55] pitti: still the same issue with gconf path [11:55] jibel: cheers [11:56] pitti: the correct solution is to choose the right session before login, so implementing the detection at the dm level [11:56] which I didn't want to do with gdm, but I have a WI for that for lightdm [11:56] didrocks: OOI, what does that have to do with the default launchers? shouldn't they be in gconf or gsettings schemas? [11:56] it's one of my goal for the sprint, but I need robert next to me :) [11:57] heh, then doing this as a pair indeed makes sense next week [11:57] pitti: yeah, they can be in the common gconf set [11:57] but that doesn't fix everything [11:57] like the gconf option to tell metacity "remove decoration from maximized window" [11:58] oh, the session and gconf defaults are related through the default XDG path setting? [11:58] you only want that in unity-2d and the guys implemented that as a gconf key, not a dbus call to detect if unity-2d is running [11:58] pitti: there is a dedicated GCONF path [11:58] ok, now I underfstand [11:58] DEFAULTS_PATH [11:58] and MANDATORY_PATH [11:58] and as we are running gconf before gnome-session… [11:59] so yeah, all that detection should really be at the dm level to avoid that :) [11:59] didrocks, bug 797676 might be related too. [11:59] Launchpad bug 797676 in unity-2d "Launcher doesn't autohide" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797676 [12:00] jibel: hum, I don't think so as it should be the default, with or without gconf key [12:00] jibel: so, if it's not, the code should, in case of no keys present, have that behavior === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:33] pitti: does jockey have a function to get the current debian arch? Or shall I create one in both fglrx and nvidia's handlers (because of multi-arch)? [12:57] tseliot: not right now; but it's easy to find out with dpkg --print-architecture [12:58] tseliot: I think create it in the handlers for now [13:28] pitti: maybe I can add it in nvidia-common (as the handlers use it already) [13:35] pitti: I have a nifty little LO 3.3.3 release for natty here (actually there: https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-nattytest2/+sourcepub/1789243/+listing-archive-extra ) [13:40] hey Sweetshark [13:40] Sweetshark: oh, nice! [13:40] Sweetshark: some changes look a bit intrusive for an SRU, though? [13:41] pitti: I did some more changes (translations and icons updates) as 1:3.3.3-1ubuntu1~ppa2 (not uploaded yet). How should I upload that as ~ppa2 to the LO packaging archive or directly as 3.3.3-1ubuntu1, because we will SRU that (will we?) ... [13:42] Sweetshark: ah, it doesn't actually change multiarch bits? [13:42] the Debian changelog makes it sound like it, but your merge changelog says it's conditional? [13:43] the most intrustive changes are the ~30 critical upstream fixes between 3.3.2 and 3.3.3 ... [13:43] these seem fine [13:43] I was just concerned about introducing multiarch in an SRU for the libs [13:43] if the packages don't actually change that, it seems fine [13:43] lemme check a diff of debian/rules [13:44] Sweetshark: for the 30 upstream fixes I think we do want it as an SRU; WDYT? [13:47] pitti: yes, I have not investigated them all that close, but if somebody ports a patch back to 3.3 after 3.3.2, it is likely worth it. (and all those are under code review upstream) [13:50] pitti: is disabling (broken) sdbc-postgresql an issue? It is basically fubar in 3.3, so disabling it is just honest. [13:50] Sweetshark: yes; we can't remove a package from natty [13:50] Sweetshark: that's libreoffice-sdbc-postgresql, right? [13:51] Sweetshark: so removing it from debian/control is a no-go for natty, I'm afraid [13:51] Sweetshark: I'd just not touch it at all if it's broken [13:51] Sweetshark: for oneiric, you can make it an empty transitional package [13:51] (if it won't be fixed any more, ever) [13:52] Sweetshark: if you drop it from debian/control, we'd just introduce an archive inconsistency (NBS), and it wouldn't make the natty final version disappear [13:53] oh, I hope it will be fixed sometime, it is not broken beyond hope. [13:54] pitti: I can explicitly reenable it for natty, so we still explicitly build it on natty (even if broken). [13:56] Sweetshark: sounds better for the SRU [13:59] the multiarch changes seem to be not be about LOs install, but about finding multiarched deps, so that should be ok too. [14:01] hate the retracers [14:01] " from launchpadlib.errors import HTTPError" [14:01] who does that keep happening? fixing it... [14:02] oh great, rene silently disabled parallel builds with more than 2 jobs (likely because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/make-dfsg/+bug/759704 ) [14:02] Ubuntu bug 759704 in make-dfsg "make crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:04] seb128: meh :/ [14:05] although it can still ftbfs with 2 jobs -- its just unlikely. [14:06] cyphermox, good morning [14:06] cyphermox, working on evolution too? === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:14] pitti: btw for 3.4.X bug 759704 will be a sure build breaker for parallel builds -- does that qualify for importance 'high'? [14:14] Launchpad bug 759704 in make-dfsg "make crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759704 [14:15] Sweetshark: oh, sure; but we actually need someone to work on this/a fix, too :) [14:17] pitti: well, there is a complete patch by me in the bug and actually a patched release in the LO ppa. [14:17] oh, did you subscribe sponsors? [14:18] ah, seems fixed upstream, nice [14:19] Sweetshark: (terminology nitpick: you attached a patch, not a debdiff -- there's no debian/changelog, debian/patches/* etc handling) [14:19] Sweetshark: want me to sponsor that for you? [14:19] pitti: I just did not to splash into somebody elses package (esp. since you can break a lot of stuff with tweaking GNU make). [14:21] pitti: please do. And there are changelog entries etc. in the ppa upload: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/1733537/+listing-archive-extra === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:24] pitti: I had that bug filed upstream too at debian http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622644 including debdiff (no changelog changes there, as I did not want to mess with debians policies), but there nobody seems to really care. [14:24] Debian bug 622644 in make "parallel (-j2) make with $(eval) construct segfaults" [Normal,Open] [14:24] (my hope was it would have been tickled donw back to us by now ;) [14:27] Sweetshark: hmm, it has [14:27] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/make-dfsg/3.81-8.1ubuntu1 [14:27] I'm not sure why the bug wasn't auto-closed [14:27] Sweetshark: closed it now [14:29] * Sweetshark might not have noticed because of still sticking with natty quite often. [14:30] I need more tasty dogfooding. [14:31] heh [14:32] what that weird (debian) versioning (8.1) there, btw? [14:33] Sweetshark: -8.1 is an NMU in Debian, a Non-Maintainer Uload [14:33] Upload [14:33] it's not weird [14:33] kenvandine: gwibber on natty seems to of stopped syncing twitter since I signed up to twitter on oneiric last night :( Anything massively changed? [14:38] pitti: weird in the "havent seen that before" sense ;) [14:41] davmor2, not in natty... [14:41] davmor2, in a terminal, killall -9 gwibber-service && gwibber-service -d [14:41] let it sync, then post the log for me [14:41] ~/.cache/gwibber/gwibber.log === Guest49686 is now known as WelshDragon [14:47] ok, g-s-d 3.1.2 seems to work ok, so pushed to the ubuntu-desktop branch, if someone wants to test it [14:48] rodrigo_, does it conflicts with gpm? [14:49] seb128, no, gpm code is still in patch review, not yet in gsd code [14:49] but it needs to conflict with gcm, checking now with hughsie [14:49] ok [14:49] is gcm going to stay around? [14:50] does it have extra feature or is that merged in gcc? [14:50] all should be merged, checking [15:02] rodrigo_, seems fine from a review, I didn't try it [15:02] rodrigo_, but let's do the 3.1 landings next week as a team goal for the rally [15:03] seb128, running it for a few days myself before uploading [15:03] so yes, won't upload it for now [15:03] kenvandine: evo all done, [15:03] I had issues pushing last night though :/ [15:06] cyphermox, cool... point me to it and i'll take a look [15:06] i installed eds last night, which of course removed evo :) [15:07] yeah [15:07] you need gtkhtml 4.1.2 as well [15:07] evo: bzr branch lp:~mathieu-tl/evolution/3.1.2-0ubuntu1 [15:07] gtkhtml: lp:~mathieu-tl/gtkhtml/4.1.2-0ubuntu1 [15:10] cyphermox, ok, thx [15:11] time for a break and some errands, I'm away for ~2 hours, will read backlog when I'm back [15:11] see you later [15:11] later seb128 [15:11] cya, seb128 [15:11] or see you on sunday for those who called it a week before I'm back ;-) [15:12] bye seb128 [15:14] see you seb128 [15:19] doh [15:19] hrmm [15:19] bryceh: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-rootless-x something that you actually want to pursue for oneiric, or should we just move it to the Q cycle (post-LTS)? [15:20] is there an equivalent to foo.gconf-defaults files for gsettings in packages in oneiric? [15:22] dobey: yes, e. g. /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/foopkg.gschema.override [15:22] pitti: so we install one of those files? cool [15:23] dobey: we have some, yes [15:23] great, thanks [15:25] any ideas on how i can get a stack trace (i.e. from gdb) of a crash in a gnome-panel applet, like the clock? [15:25] the complication of course being that it's started by the panel and crashes immediately, so no time to attach a gdb to it. [15:27] Shred00: does it keep crashing when you re-add it? [15:27] yup [15:28] Shred00: enable apport for one time, let it catch the crash, and then use apport-retrace -g /var/crash/gnome-panel.crash ? [15:28] Shred00: when it crashes the first time, run it inside gdb, then re-add it while it's running in gdb [15:28] well, i don't need to "re-add" it. i get an error dialog asking if i want to "reload" it [15:28] sudo service apport start force_start=1 [15:28] or what dobey says [15:28] for live debugging [15:28] Shred00: right, while that dialog is up, start up gdb with it, and when it's started running in gdb, hit "reload" [15:30] where's the hotel address for the dublin rally? [15:30] rodrigo_: https://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuPlatform/Rally/Oneiric [15:31] i am both sad and glad i am not going to dublin :) [15:31] pitti, thanks! [15:31] dobey: i must not be understanding: [15:31] $ gdb /usr/lib/gnome-panel/clock-applet [15:31] ... [15:31] (gdb) [15:31] then i hit Reload in the dialog and the dialog disappears briefly as it starts a new one which immediately dies. [15:31] Shred00: you need to run the applet inside gdb [15:31] Shred00: not simply load it, it must be running [15:32] pitti, hmm, that page is empty [15:32] ahhhh. got it. [15:32] Shred00: iow, type "run" and press RET :) [15:32] rodrigo_: sorry, recent mass-renaming; https://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuEngineering/Rally/Oneiric [15:32] damn. pacrunner_webkit again [15:33] i thought this got fixed in maveric [15:33] wtf is the clock applet using webkit for?! [15:33] loading weather info [15:33] let me rephrase [15:33] wtf is the clock applet using webkit for?! [15:33]