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| ujjain | is there an ubuntu server netinstall? | 00:11 |
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| SpamapS | ujjain: yes! | 00:15 |
| ujjain | SpamapS: mini.iso? | 00:15 |
| SpamapS | ujjain: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot | 00:16 |
| SpamapS | ujjain: also if you need to do more than 1 or 2, you can use Orchestra | 00:16 |
| SpamapS | ujjain: but thats only barely available in 11.04, and really slated for "awesomeness" in 11.10 | 00:16 |
| ujjain | I don't use tftp. | 00:17 |
| ujjain | hehe, Ubuntu is realy getting pretty awesome even for servers | 00:17 |
| SpamapS | ujjain: if you can put physical media in, you may want the minimal.iso | 00:17 |
| ujjain | I'l l use the mini.iso, it's just a testserver anyway | 00:18 |
| ujjain | let's just hope I don't have a GUI | 00:18 |
| ujjain | k, that went wrong I think ^^ | 00:20 |
| dhon_ | hi all, does anyone know of a way to kill an active TCP socket? I'm trying to test what happens when a client connection drops out | 00:25 |
| SpamapS | dhon_: iptables can simulate it | 00:25 |
| dhon_ | from the command line that is (not within the app) | 00:26 |
| dhon_ | SpamapS: I haven't used iptables before, could you elaborate? | 00:27 |
| SpamapS | dhon_: well you could make it drop packets or refuse connections.. | 00:29 |
| dhon_ | SpamapS: do you know if it will apply to active connections, or only future ones? | 00:30 |
| SpamapS | dhon_: its very low level, you can add/remove rules | 00:31 |
| SpamapS | dhon_: what exactly are you trying to test though? | 00:32 |
| SpamapS | dhon_: sounds to me like what you want to do is something like iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -s remote-host --port 44444 -j DROP | 00:33 |
| dhon_ | I have a service that opens a TCP socket to a server (my service is a client here) | 00:33 |
| dhon_ | after some long period, my services is not communicating with the server anymore | 00:33 |
| dhon_ | I would like to test if the connection being dropped produces similar results, as it's not generating any helpful log messages | 00:34 |
| SpamapS | yeah, iptables (a firewall, btw) would be useful for that | 00:35 |
| dhon_ | SpamapS: cool thanks, I'll read up on that iptables command | 00:35 |
| dhon_ | SpamapS: sounds like what I want | 00:35 |
| dhon_ | one more thing, will I need to reverse that command in the future to reallow connections again? | 00:36 |
| SpamapS | dhon_: yes | 00:43 |
| dhon_ | just replace -A with -D? | 00:44 |
| SpamapS | yep | 00:45 |
| dhon_ | oh sorry, not using -A | 00:45 |
| SpamapS | note that I used -I .. to put it at the top | 00:45 |
| dhon_ | I see, thanks for the help SpamapS | 00:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #801375 in samba (main) "package winbind 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801375 | 00:51 |
| tucemiux | hey what logs should I be checking on my server ? | 01:37 |
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| joeylockie | hello am seting up a server mostly for my family to use and am planing on instailing the server with a full desktop environments (which one yet i dont know) but in order to do this do I need to install any of the preedefind collections of software in the server installer? or is it possable to istall them (if I fiond out I need them) later? | 02:20 |
| Datz | joeylockie: the main difference between the server and desktop install is the kernel as far as I know. | 02:24 |
| Datz | So you may just want to go with the Desktop verison | 02:24 |
| Datz | that way you won't have to install the desktop environment | 02:24 |
| joeylockie | in the desktop am I ablo=e to add apahice and what not easyly? | 02:25 |
| Datz | yes | 02:28 |
| Datz | more easily if you are not familiar with the command line | 02:28 |
| joeylockie | ok I will look into that thanks | 02:29 |
| twb | While you *can* set up a desktop on your server, it is not recommended | 02:35 |
| ntoombs | qman__: you there? | 03:00 |
| ntoombs | does this forum help with routers? | 03:02 |
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| ntoombs | i've configured my ubuntu server to connect to my router with a static ip address | 03:03 |
| ntoombs | however when i go into my router and check for attached devices i see my server but it has a different ip address | 03:04 |
| ntoombs | it's not even in the same range | 03:04 |
| ntoombs | my router is 192.168.2.1 | 03:04 |
| ntoombs | and the device showingup is 192.168.254.115 | 03:04 |
| ntoombs | i have my server set to 192.168.2.119 | 03:05 |
| ntoombs | i did at one time however have my server's static ip address set to 192.168.254.115 awhile back but i don't know how that could have been stored anywhere on my server so i'm assuming its a problem with my router | 03:05 |
| ntoombs | or with my modem which is now in briged mode | 03:06 |
| ntoombs | does anyone think they could help with this problem? | 03:06 |
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| jkup | Sup | 07:38 |
| jvargas | hello. a quick question, are there identified issues or considerations to run ubuntu servers under hyper-v virtualization platform? | 09:01 |
| jamespage | Daviey: please can you give me an opinion on bug 801038 | 09:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 801038 in libvirt "libvirt-bin can not check the correct status of libvirtd " [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801038 | 09:45 |
| Daviey | looking | 09:47 |
| jamespage | ta | 09:48 |
| Daviey | jamespage: I don't think this is something that will be addressed in Ubuntu. I agree that libvirtd should check for an existing process, and exit gracefully. | 09:49 |
| Daviey | I would consider it wishlist and confirmed. | 09:49 |
| Daviey | I'm not sure i see the overwhelming concern tho :/ | 09:50 |
| jamespage | that was my thinking; it would be possible to put a check into the upstart config tho | 09:50 |
| jamespage | but I agree its a bit of an edge case | 09:50 |
| jamespage | marked as so | 09:50 |
| Daviey | jamespage: Yeah, just for reference checked to see what apache2 does in the same situation | 09:54 |
| Daviey | It is better handled.. as in the pid is tracked. | 09:54 |
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| jamespage | It would make a nice server papercut some someone to work on | 09:55 |
| Daviey | jamespage: good thinking! | 09:57 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #727342 in open-vm-tools (multiverse) "FFE: open-vm-tools kernel module failed to build" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727342 | 10:27 |
| * RoyK += 0xc0ffee | 11:10 | |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #801496 in postfix (main) "postfix postmulti cannot open dynamicmaps.cf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801496 | 11:11 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #801501 in nova (universe) "[MIR] nova" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801501 | 11:22 |
| Ursinha | good morning people | 12:17 |
| jamespage | morning Ursinha | 12:36 |
| sommer1 | Woo, Friday! | 13:02 |
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| hallyn | Daviey: regarding MIR for 'gpxe or ipxe' - note that ipxe is now in debian. Can we just sync that? | 14:15 |
| hallyn | Daviey: also, I don't understand why I don't show up on http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html | 14:16 |
| Daviey | hallyn: are you in ~ubuntu-server? | 14:31 |
| hallyn | ? | 14:32 |
| hallyn | Daviey: what do you mean? | 14:32 |
| Daviey | hallyn: so gpxe or ipxe is tricky... I've left that one for now, because ipxe is a fork.. and a better one IMO... but we need to make sure. | 14:32 |
| Daviey | hallyn: the ~ubuntu-server launchpad group | 14:32 |
| hallyn | oh | 14:32 |
| hallyn | pretty sure | 14:32 |
| Daviey | hallyn: i just added you | 14:33 |
| Daviey | but that might not be the cause | 14:33 |
| hallyn | debian went with ipxe, and was hung a long time on the gpxe ITP, so it seems like we should follow them. | 14:33 |
| hallyn | mind you i've not looked at the source at all | 14:33 |
| Daviey | hallyn: so the -overview topic isn't yet complete. I think it is still missing some blueprints. | 14:33 |
| Daviey | hallyn: I'd prefer ipxe i think... especially as it is already a build dep of xen in main! :) | 14:34 |
| Daviey | but zul added support for gpxe in cobbler. | 14:34 |
| Daviey | So zul probabyl needs to update to ipxe for that to proceed. | 14:34 |
| zul | Daviey: yeah probably | 14:34 |
| hallyn | since ipxe is a fork, that shouldn't be too hard to port right? | 14:34 |
| zul | nah | 14:34 |
| zul | vi s/ipxe/gpxe/g :) | 14:35 |
| hallyn | Daviey: anyway, my prodding on the overview page was just bc I don't see any place where I was assigned to MIRs. Not that I mind, I'd like to get lxc working with cgroup-bin today :) | 14:35 |
| Daviey | hallyn: Hmm | 14:36 |
| hallyn | so if ipxe is in debian, does a simple sync request suffice, or do we need an MIR still to get it into ubuntu? | 14:36 |
| Daviey | hallyn: is http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/u/serge-hallyn.html of use? | 14:37 |
| hallyn | Daviey: yeah I recon | 14:38 |
| hallyn | feh | 14:38 |
| hallyn | (feh @ MIRs I see there :) | 14:38 |
| Daviey | hallyn: Are they ok? | 14:39 |
| hallyn | odd that i apparently am not on the team | 14:39 |
| Daviey | hallyn: you are not leaving Ubuntu are you? :) | 14:39 |
| hallyn | Daviey: not that i know of :) i'll let you know if iget an email later | 14:39 |
| hallyn | Daviey: well, they are in sid it seems. So I guess it should be less than an hour (i hope) which hopefully is less time than i'll have left after finishing with cgroups :) | 14:41 |
| hallyn | "I'm this close" -- lol | 14:42 |
| hallyn | you know what'd be nice? a nice beefy amd box with huge disk, so I can test kvm bugs in a nested kvm environment | 14:43 |
| Daviey | hallyn: That can probably happen | 14:44 |
| hallyn | ? | 14:44 |
| Daviey | hallyn: access to a big box. | 14:44 |
| hallyn | davieylabs? | 14:44 |
| Daviey | lol | 14:45 |
| hallyn | :) really, i pay amazon and rackspace for hosting, but they don't have what i need. you'd think someone would... | 14:46 |
| Daviey | hallyn: yes... someone probably does... but someone needs to check their pm's :) | 14:46 |
| hallyn | Daviey: trying a new client, and it errs the opposite way from quassel | 14:47 |
| hallyn | can't find th eright balance between too few and too many notifications | 14:47 |
| Daviey | lol | 14:47 |
| RoyK | rotfl - just went by the oracle.com store, and they're offering 'MySQL Standard Edition Subscription (1-4 socket server) (1 Year)' for just $2000 a year... | 15:17 |
| patdk-wk | much better than oracle pricing | 15:19 |
| * RoyK goes to Sahara and sets up a bazar selling sand | 15:19 | |
| omidp | can anyone help me with this page ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen | 15:35 |
| slhsen | hi, I have a pc with 4 500G sata hard disk. can i install ubuntu-server on one of them and create a raid 5 array on other tree? | 15:38 |
| patdk-wk | if you wanted too | 15:38 |
| slhsen | by the way i'm talking about software raid | 15:38 |
| mncl-core | if you wanted to, you could indeed | 15:38 |
| patdk-wk | or you could make all 4 of them a raid5, and install ubuntu on them | 15:38 |
| mncl-core | or you could make all of them raid-10 and get that extra performance; | 15:38 |
| patdk-wk | mncl-core, not really | 15:39 |
| patdk-wk | 4 disk raid10 vs raid5 is really the same | 15:39 |
| mncl-core | patdk-wk: how so | 15:39 |
| slhsen | mncl-core, and loose some disk space right? | 15:39 |
| patdk-wk | raid5 will beat it in fact | 15:39 |
| mncl-core | patdk-wk: i would like to disagree with that statement. and in fact you also gain extra redundancy | 15:40 |
| |rt| | raid5 will likely be slower at writes...but otherwise I'd expect them to be similar in speed | 15:41 |
| patdk-wk | only extreemly small random writes | 15:41 |
| slhsen | ok another question, lets say I created a raid 5 array with all four disks. and my os became unbootable somehow, will i still be recover my data? | 15:42 |
| mncl-core | rt: true, but to state that RAID-5 will beat RAID-10 in fact, is completely false. | 15:42 |
| slhsen | *able to recover | 15:42 |
| patdk-wk | the statement that raid10 will beat raid5 is false also | 15:42 |
| |rt| | mncl-core: without context of a workload I don't think you can make claims that any raid level is faster than any other raid level | 15:42 |
| patdk-wk | slhsen, you recover it the same way you would recover anything else | 15:43 |
| mncl-core | rt: the context was stated that he is attempting to Software RAID, or RAID 4x 500GB Hard Disks | 15:43 |
| mncl-core | my statement was simple, that he could use RAID-10 and he would get extra performance. | 15:43 |
| mncl-core | which is technically accurate. | 15:44 |
| |rt| | given enough disks if your only task is serving files over a 1 or 2 GBit links then at some point it doesn't matter...from a performance point of view | 15:44 |
| mncl-core | rt: ahhh very true; but on a technical perspective, there would be a performance gain in other operations; e.g. installing packages, OS Operations, and so on.. | 15:44 |
| patdk-wk | given my workload, reads and writes of 50-100mb files, raid10 makes no sense, it's slow | 15:45 |
| patdk-wk | given my database, yes, raid10 | 15:45 |
| slhsen | patdk-wk, yeah but, if I save one disk for system, i think i can just install os again and my data will be there | 15:45 |
| patdk-wk | given an olap store, raid10 is kind of pointless | 15:45 |
| |rt| | mncl-core: but with 4 drives I think they are about equal...you'll start to see a larger difference as the number of drives increases....and if your workload is sufficiently random | 15:45 |
| patdk-wk | slhsen you could do that anyways | 15:45 |
| slhsen | how so | 15:46 |
| patdk-wk | just run the installer | 15:46 |
| patdk-wk | it should notice yo uhave raid setup | 15:46 |
| mncl-core | rt: i have benchmarked extensively RAID-10, true that workload must be considered and increase of disks. but it remains that even with 4x Disks the performance is increased. | 15:46 |
| mncl-core | plus the extra redundancy aspect | 15:47 |
| mncl-core | should be considered | 15:47 |
| |rt| | on my server here (hardware raid with 12 drives) I did a ton of benchmarks trying to decide between raid 10 and raid 6...at the end of the day the difference was 1GB/s vs 700MB/s | 15:47 |
| mncl-core | rt: well i have several RAID-10 SANs for ESX Clusters and I also had a hard time deciding between RAID-6 and 10 | 15:48 |
| |rt| | I decided to go with RAID6 and get the slightly better data protection and storage at the cost of the 300MB/s | 15:48 |
| mncl-core | but ultimately RAID-10 destroyed RAID-5 and 6 | 15:48 |
| patdk-wk | the issue with raid5 has always been what happens when a disk is dead | 15:48 |
| patdk-wk | not how it performes when it's 100% functional | 15:48 |
| mncl-core | mind you i am using 24x WD Blacks | 15:48 |
| |rt| | yeah the difference in Mean Time between Data Loss of raid 5 and raid6 and raid10 is hugh | 15:49 |
| mncl-core | and real adaptec raid controllers | 15:49 |
| |rt| | huge | 15:49 |
| |rt| | RAID10 rebuild times are the fastest and a dead drive impacts it the least though | 15:50 |
| patdk-wk | if my san grows anymore | 15:51 |
| patdk-wk | I'm going switch it from raid10 to raid 51 | 15:52 |
| patdk-wk | hmm, maybe that would be raid15 :) | 15:52 |
| patdk-wk | a raid5 of many raid1's | 15:52 |
| mncl-core | it should also be considered that the more drives you had, the greater probability for simultaneous drive failures. | 15:52 |
| patdk-wk | ya, raid15 or raid150 | 15:53 |
| |rt| | some of the zfs based NAS/SAN solutions are pretty nice...like Nexenta | 15:55 |
| |rt| | ssd cache devices really speeds them up too | 15:55 |
| mncl-core | rt: cool find. will look into more, looks interesting. have been using openfiler for a while now | 15:56 |
| |rt| | a good number of the ex solaris devs work for Nexenta now | 15:57 |
| mncl-core | very cool, seems like it is well maintained and supports emulex targets | 15:58 |
| |rt| | some of the gluster stuff intrigues me too...but it's a very different approach | 15:59 |
| mncl-core | gluster is a very cool product | 15:59 |
| mncl-core | reliable, and when you mix it with an openqrm environment, things can get very interesting | 16:00 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #801626 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801626 | 17:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #801641 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801641 | 17:21 |
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| zul | hggdh: hey did you get anywhere with bsdtar yet | 19:06 |
| tarrasch | I want my Ubuntu Server to always run a program (in my case a webserver), preferably as a seperate user. So whats the easiest way to add ever-running services? | 19:09 |
| patdk-wk | normally, the normal way, and let the service change uid itself | 19:11 |
| tarrasch | Basically the service should fire up by itself at startup, and I should be able to restart it when the server is up. | 19:11 |
| tarrasch | so i use my own user that starts a program that switches to another user and keeps running the program I intended? | 19:11 |
| patdk-wk | hmm, root starts programs at startup | 19:12 |
| tarrasch | oh ok | 19:12 |
| patdk-wk | and no, normally the program itself that you start, switchs itself | 19:12 |
| patdk-wk | if it doesn't, I might have issues with it's lack of security | 19:13 |
| tarrasch | I know my server already startsup apache, I guess I want something very similiar for myself only for my own webserver | 19:13 |
| patdk-wk | well, apache config file you set the user and group name | 19:14 |
| patdk-wk | once it gets started, it changes itself | 19:14 |
| patdk-wk | that is what your program should do | 19:14 |
| tarrasch | patdk-wk, you mean that the webserver Ive written (not me really) should at its initialization switch to a dedicated user? | 19:14 |
| patdk-wk | not at initialization, but normally after that | 19:15 |
| patdk-wk | cause normally they want to bind to port 80, or read ssl keys, that need root | 19:15 |
| tarrasch | hmm, I'm gonna run at port 3000+, that doesnt need root, no? | 19:16 |
| patdk-wk | no, ports <1024 need root | 19:16 |
| tarrasch | I'll let my apache-server reverseproxy to the other web-server running at 3000 | 19:16 |
| tarrasch | And I've run the server "manually" myself succesfully as my own user (not root); and it works fine. Now I only need to "autorun" my program at startup etc. | 19:17 |
| tarrasch | since my progrma is simple I won't need root. Is there a simplified process for setting up services that don't need any root? | 19:18 |
| patdk-wk | guess use su then to start it | 19:18 |
| patdk-wk | su some-user -s someprogram | 19:19 |
| patdk-wk | maybe? | 19:19 |
| patdk-wk | such a hack :) | 19:19 |
| tarrasch | Sounds great, though I still would like to 1. startup as the system boots up. 2. be able to restart it while running. Any ideas? | 19:19 |
| tarrasch | I've noticed the 'services' functionality, it seems good though a bit much work to setup something quite simple | 19:21 |
| tarrasch | 'su designated_user -s /my/web/server' Seems to work otherwise | 19:23 |
| x404x | How to replace a failed drive on a 3ware 9500 controller ? | 19:27 |
| x404x | I want it to recognize the drive on the same port the bad one uses | 19:28 |
| patdk-wk | disconnect old drive | 19:36 |
| patdk-wk | plug in new drive | 19:37 |
| patdk-wk | tell 9500 to use new drive as hotspare? | 19:37 |
| hggdh | zul: not yet, but I finished witht the kernels for this week; I will get back to it now | 19:46 |
| zul | hggdh: cool | 19:47 |
| qman__ | I'm having a problem with SSH and key authentication | 20:09 |
| qman__ | for the purpose of making tunnels, I have one user on an SSH server, and multiple clients, each with their own key to authenticate as said user | 20:09 |
| qman__ | this worked great until recently when I started adding more clients, and it's rejecting my keys | 20:10 |
| qman__ | what configuration do I need to make on the SSH server to allow more concurrent connections with different keys as the same user? | 20:11 |
| hggdh | zul: I do not see many options -- why was this link created, in the first place? It wasn't there before A1 | 20:15 |
| zul | hggdh: no idea | 20:16 |
| hggdh | who would know? | 20:16 |
| zul | cjwatson: maybe | 20:16 |
| hggdh | s langasek says the link can be there, as far as ISO is concerned | 20:17 |
| qman__ | ah, nevermind, it was a permission issue buried underneath that | 20:22 |
| Aison | funny, how do I install ubuntu server on a HP DataVault X510 ;) there's no screen | 20:28 |
| Aison | maybe I should install the harddrive on a desktop machine and then plug it into the hp device? | 20:28 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #801718 in krb5 (main) "kpropd -S -P <port> fails to use specified port" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801718 | 20:35 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #801729 in samba (main) "package winbind 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 128" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801729 | 20:56 |
| maco | i just installed mysql-server on my lucid server. i gave it a nice long complicated root password, which i copied and pasted from keepass. then i tried to login with "mysql -u root -p" and pasted in the same nice long complicated root password for mysql...and it keeps giving me denied | 21:02 |
| mncl-core | of course | 21:03 |
| mncl-core | keypass is greate | 21:03 |
| maco | is it possible there is some parse-fail going on with the nice long complicated password? | 21:03 |
| mncl-core | but you cannot use special characters | 21:03 |
| maco | there we go | 21:03 |
| mncl-core | and you cannot use 25 characters' common mistake i've done many times before | 21:03 |
| maco | so how special are they allowed to be? | 21:03 |
| mncl-core | go with upper-lower-num 18 characters | 21:03 |
| maco | or is it alphanumeric only? | 21:03 |
| maco | ok | 21:04 |
| maco | thanks | 21:04 |
| maco | i frequently wish keepass had a "kinda special" and a "really special" checkbox, for those sites that allow @#$%^&*() but not ` " ' £ | 21:06 |
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| wmoxam | I can't seem to find xfs_freeze in Oneiric | 21:37 |
| wmoxam | is it moved to a package? | 21:37 |
| wmoxam | nm | 21:38 |
| wmoxam | found it | 21:38 |
| RoAkSoAx | zul: ping? | 21:44 |
| RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: you might be able to help me.. does it make any sense to tell dh_install init to install the script with defaults, but disabled? (so that daemon never starts on boot unless otherwise specified?) | 21:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #801761 in postfix (main) "package postfix (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 128" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801761 | 22:02 |
| SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: it should use some method *in the script* to be disabled | 22:15 |
| SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: like checking /etc/default/xxxx | 22:16 |
| SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: it should still run, but not start | 22:16 |
| * SpamapS prepares to leave for the airport | 22:16 | |
| cjwatson | hggdh: what link is this? | 22:41 |
| cjwatson | oh, I see on #ubuntu-release, bah @ conversations across multiple channels | 22:42 |
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| lcb | hi. any good phone answering system for 11.04 server? just in case someone knows... | 23:55 |
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